Mark: Thanks, Bill. Thanks for encouraging entrepreneurs across the country.
Bill Canady: folks, today we've got if you've got questions about quantum computing, how it's going to affect middle market companies and help protect this great nation of ours, Mark is here. So, Mark, you know, we had a chance to check chat backstage. I thought I'd start with this question. So you described the culmination of 33 years of work. What did you see before the rest of the market saw saw it? And what kept you going?
Mark: I started with quantum computing in the Clinton administration when I I got to work with Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Strom Thurman, Jesse Helms, Ted Kennedy, John Warner, and other senators to look at the way that the appropriations and armed services and national security committees appropriated funds for quantum technology. And I saw a great opportunity to work with a science and a technology that had been in place since 1926, but that people were sort of afraid of because they were accustomed to classical computers that had really started in 1983 and 1984. And so I was fortunate I got to work on the novel aspects of quantum computing. with the United States and fifty six of our allies over the last thirty three years and discover ways that we would be able to make sure that the American and British people are able to cohesively roll out quantum computers in each home and each family office throughout both countries.
Bill Canady: Holy cow. Well, I tell you, when you look at it today, what problem do you think that the quantum dome solves today that a conventional computer or can't get after? How does this make a difference for us? Like, bring this to the average business owner, how this is going to make an impact on them and what's happening.
Mark: Yeah, I mean there are aspects of the Golden Dome, which is the defense technology utilized to protect the United States and our allies, and the quantome that are very novel because they are starting out to be used as a response to AI malware. And so the real problem that is pushing quantum forward is actually we had three years ago fifty thousand attacks per year. And this year we had well over 500,000 AI malware attacks. And the only type of computer that's strong enough to deal with an autonomous AI or an autonomous robot like a slaughterbot from one of our adversaries is the quantum computer. And so what we're able to solve today are niche issues in health, defense, armed services, governance, consumer goods. farming and irrigation as well as nuclear power. we're able to focus in with quantum computers on very specific needs within the AI malware space. And then we're able to grow out of that and to impact larger groups of people in a positive way by preventing AI mishaps from happening. I don't think that we knew in 2000 even, when I graduated from college, that we were going to have such a rapid response to AI. And so the only type of computing that would be able to heal the mistakes that we have with classical computing is is for us to work with quantum computers to fix those problems.
Bill Canady: Is there a real difference between quantum computer and cybersecurity? Is it kind of one and the same? Are they supportive? What's what's really the difference? How should we think about it?
Mark: Well, cyber is more for example around enterprise resource planning like SAP and Oracle do cybersecurity and custom enterprise resource planning tools do that. there isn't part of AI that has a defense and security component and that is called you know, generative AGI. And Those are very strong, but the problem is is that we found in the past thirty days that AI is creating itself and it's you know, it's attacking itself and attacking other branches like our waterways, our irrigation. An article is gonna come out from my foundation it's going to talk about our supply chain because we found that AI assaults the supply chain. So what classical computing and AI have in common is they they have are binary in their thinking. It's us versus them. So they have to have something to attack to move forward in order to compete. Whereas quantum computing can holistically think about a 360 and it can actually correct the the thinking boxes if you would of an ERP or or an AI and so it can put it back on its normal course. So my dream, back to your first question, is that every household in America, every family office, every small business, every middle market business will have a cube, which I've designed, and they can plug into the quantome and they will be able to have access to what's called quantum information, which provides that holistic information in order to provide security and efficiency to the businesses at home. That's that's the goal.
Bill Canady: So it'll be like a computer sitting on their desk or in their data center or whatever, and will that be casting kind of a net over their network to keep out the bad actors? Or will it be basically repairing their system? How how would that work?
Mark: Well, we've designed a hundred and nineteen citadels, directorates, and network d syndicates that connect with the interface. And so essentially the citadels will all be in the United States and England, and they will be the six focus areas, and then the other a hundred and thirteen locations will have urban centers for quantum computers, and then they will have supporting syndicates that are training facilities for the quantum computer. And so every family might not want to spend between, you know, eighty and a hundred and ten million dollars on a quantum computer. if you've got if you if if you have a a city of eighteen million people and they want to connect with the quantum computer and have the same information The beauty of quantum computers is they can be sectioned because they're so powerful. They are powered by what's called qubits. And those qubits allow for the technology to be put into specific areas, whether that's a health and life science location for say Boston Scientific or for a nuclear power group like Duke Power or for an agricultural consumer goods company that works with. Trader Joe's and Aldi's. So we can protect the supply chain and we can protect the defense and the security all from the same device. But what the Cube interface does is it plugs into the larger body of information and holistically corrects the AI malware misfunctions so that security is provided throughout the nation.
Bill Canady: when I first heard about quantum computer, which was years ago, it was kind of the AI before AI as we know it today. And then today we look at it and AI, you know, it's it's big in the media. We're all talking about it. We're all spending a lot of money on it for sure. but the idea is is quantum do the same thing? Is this a thinking or learning type tool? Like how will it stay ahead of AI or vice versa? What what what's driving each one of these tools and how will it win, if you will?
Mark: Well AI is not human powered anymore. As of the last thirty days, we've lost control of it and it is doing its own thinking. It may delete this interface that you and I are on, but Bill, it is a a a weak but stable tool. And so I believe the AI is going to go bust. And the reason is is it's going to start to self-defeat itself. Whereas quantum always requires human interface and human guidance, and that that will allow for quantum to be more stable. But right now, the biggest issue that we've had with quantum, and the reason there's such a hefty cost is the cooling of it. Because the cooling devices for the computer, which looks like a chandelier, and the data storage for it are so vast and huge that it is really difficult to maintain the cool temperatures. But we've had amazing things that I never thought would thought would happen in my lifetime, that are keeping our technology cool. We've got new chips, we have new ways of managing the quantum computer with the interface. I could show you one of my cubes right now if you want to see it.
Bill Canady: Man, I'd love to see that.
Mark: So this is the cube backpack. It's about the size of my left torso. And this is how we share it with our clients. We have it packaged right now so it doesn't get damaged. So this is what it looks like. And it it's meant to help the quantum computer, which is normally like the size of my office and my flat in DC, plus maybe the farm where I do my training. It's normally that large. But what this does is it simplifies the interface of the quantum computer so that the human beings and or human beings that are getting the data or quantum information from it can do so cohesively. So We designed this about six months ago and have been trying it out in the field.
Bill Canady: So so when you say interface, is that for lack of a better term, kind of the gateway, like you plug your computer, you plug it into your network, and that gets the information to the quantum computer. Is that what that means?
Mark: Yeah, like my clients right now are you know, they're very large multinational companies, but I I know that the real change for America is whether a a family, a family office, a family business will have access to that technology. So putting the standard operations together for the quantum computer is something I've specialized in, in the last thirty years, but my interest is being able to make sure that every family in the United Kingdom and the United States has access so that they can tap in. for the podcast today, I tried a a couple of products that I use with like other federal things and I wasn't able to log in. So I found this Google device that one of my board members gave for me just for instances like this. And that's exactly this cube is the same size as this Google computer. And I I hope that within the next 10 years I'm 48 years old. So by the time I'm 58, I want it to be at the same cost as this Google computer, like $1,200, so that a person and a family that wants to learn, students that want to learn, they'll be able to access the information. So it's a it's a big dream considering the current cost that we have. But I believe that, you know, it as we see AI kind of start to explode and then pop or bust, there will be a lot more affordability for us to be able to manage data information securely through quantum that we w we might miss out on in AGI. But, you know, AI is the thing that's in vogue. I'm I'm not saying that quantum is quite there yet but it would be nice for us to you know see A see that that AI can't become so rabid and so prolific that it becomes uncontrollable in the midst of humanity and other problems like nuclear proliferation, sharing resources, conflicts, all of these things can be addressed in a in a way with quantum computing because quantum computing is six dimensional and the world that you and I are used to working in is three dimensional. So it's another realm of of connection and fixing problems.
Bill Canady: So you showed and that was that the c quantum cube you showed us or was that the gateway?
Mark: Well, that's the quantum cube. The gateway is a thing called tackling. So tackling is a device that we are perfecting with the government. And that's my present to myself is to get a sophisticated
Bill Canady: Yeah.
Mark: business partner To help me with the tackling. And so that would allow for families within a certain circumference, like 45 miles of the tackling device, to be able to use the cube for the interface. So that's an important distinction. And I'm gonna change the way I talk about it because you clarified that for me. Is that the the the cube is the device that sits at the house? For the family to use, but the interface is actually our in invention in the tackling space, which connects that to the quantum computer.
Bill Canady: So you showed us the you know your prototype here. How how many how many are operating out there today? you know, what how much workload is it carrying on? How is it is it performing to what you thought it would be? Where where are you at in that journey?
Mark: Yeah, I mean it there are forty seven builds that I've done in thirty years, thirty-three years. they're all working at military installations in the United Kingdom and the United States. I do have permission with some of our allies to apply the same technology if we use American parts and British parts to apply that to other countries this year for the first time. And there are seven of those. And I've got nine federal builds. So it's 16. So my average has been between maybe two and six build-outs throughout my life. And you could say it's doubled, and that's why I need a business partner who is skilled to like manage those operations with me so that I can focus more on these types of conversations to educate people around thought leadership and the use of the technology. And he can help with the tackling and the implementation for the American people in the field.
Bill Canady: who's typically the economic buyer of these? Is it the governments or have you sold any industry or business yet?
Mark: historically it's federal governments. So
Bill Canady: Mm-hmm. I would think so because you said the thing was, you know, a hundred million dollars or more for it. I yeah, the average business without outside the our budget.
Mark: Yeah, so there's I have a list. I've been able to to assess the five hundred thousand hits in the United States. fifty thousand and now just three years later five hundred thousand. they're primarily in nuclear power, irrigation, hospital systems. federal government agencies and federal governance. there to my knowledge have been less hits in the state level. So my primary focus has been with the Air Force and with the federal government because that's where we've had the biggest attacks. But
Bill Canady: Mm-hmm.
Mark: those other three or four areas that I just mentioned are are hot on you know now. And we have rebranded to focus on the quantum security component because we again we didn't expect AI to malfunction so soon. So
Bill Canady: Well, I know I read in the news, I think it was the O OpenAI and others that the their chat bots have started, you know, kinda getting outside the businesses, starting to run their own you know, their own programs, if you will. yeah, it's a little scary when we start thinking about these things getting loose.
Mark: Yeah, it's scary, but we have an answer, like we've had an answer since nineteen twenty six. My grandmother October turns a hundred. She was born in nineteen twenty six. I've always been fascinated with that year in American history as a year of great growth in terms of textiles, farming, soil conservation, 'cause I come from a farming family, nuclear power and the aspects of quantum. I don't know why humanity has certain technologies or commodities or things that are useful to us. And sometimes we don't tap into those until a hundred years later. But the beauty is that it's been there just as long as my grandmother has been there. And you know, she's the most vivacious soul that I know. And I think quantum technology and science is the most vivacious science. So we have an answer, Bill, to what you've just mentioned. with the AI malfunctions. We have an answer to correct it. We don't have to take it out. We just have to redirect and and take control of it. And so that's what the beauty of quantum does is that it all it allows us to right those wrongs that are being done. Cause you you don't want to work for a business that's governed by a technology. You want to r run with a business that's governed by humanity, right?
Bill Canady: Mm-hmm. So do you see as quantum being the manager of AI in a sense to keep it, within in the guardrails, if you will?
Mark: Yes, sir. So my companies are called quanta with an A because that's the plural form of quantum. And I from this podcast I'm going to rebrand how I talk at the beginning of each section as quantum management, because that's exactly Yeah, that's exactly what quantum does is together with human beings we can more effectively manage the AI malware problems. And I keep going back to AI because that's the major problem because if you think about it, our adversaries like China, Russia, Iran have used adversarial AI malware to cause complete complete havoc in our democracy. And the same thing has happened in the UK and this is something that can be corrected and protected by quantum technology.
Bill Canady: How does quantum keep up with AI? today you've got trillions of dollars going in, infrastructure, learning. They I've read that you know AI has already consumed the internet, now they're consuming each other you know to get more information off of which which is what causes some of the hallucinations. How is quantum going to stay ahead of that so it can keep AI in check or if you will, keep it within the bounds of what we're comfortable with?
Mark: Yeah, so quantum is six dimensional. And so it's all places at once. It's above, below, to the right, to the left, in front and behind. So quantum can corral like when we herd cattle, you know, we have to put the cattle in the right path so that it will go in for the injections so that we can keep the herd healthy. And that's the same type of theme. with with quantum. Now AI on the other hand is two and three-dimensional. The worst AIs are two-dimensional. They don't really have the ability to work with a 3D plane and so they become bombastic and create a lot of havoc. The better ones are three-dimensional and they're able to to think three-dimensional and expedite human work. The problem is is when an adversary gets a three-dimensional Type of AI and they interface that with an Android or a Slaughterbot, and then they create warfare and havoc that's not like known to humankind. Then if you try to defend that with a secure AI, it's not gonna work. You've got to have a mainframe capability that's six dimensional that can address, isolate, and shut down the threat. And that's what quantum does is it prevents malware. from attacking the American people domestically and abroad. And that's why I've dedicated my life to this type of technology is because I believe it's the only way to secure the next generation of humanity in the United States and the United Kingdom.
Bill Canady: These are lofty goals that you know have major implication. Bringing it down a little bit to the typical listener of this podcast, which is a business owner, CEO, things like that, how are they going to participate in this? It feels like given the size, the scope, the cost, that's going to be at a at a global or national level. What is the the CEO today, what should he be thinking about using the 8020 principle? What 20% of his resources are is he going to be changing? And having to dedicate to this, given he's already spending a lot of money on AI and
Mark: Well, I think out of the twenty percent it's gonna take a hefty investment up front to get the tackling, the cube and the dome working together. but I think that the beauty of that is if if the listener contacts me and my team, we have the ability to to work with subsidy programs in the United States as long as the organization works in agreement with the US or British government and we're able to deploy test models and prototypes in the quantum space. So your earlier question, Bill, was about who do I typically focus on. particular groupings of people in six locations around the United States. So ne New York, Connecticut, and upstate New York, DC and West Virginia, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and a spot in Gainesville, the area around Houston, Chicago and Seattle, those are areas where I'm starting to do tests with middle market companies. And as long as the organization was is within one or two hours we can do a test together with the government o of the quantum computer. That's probably where we'll be for the next three years. but once the test models are in place in the areas that we call our citadels, then we'll be able to reach larger groups of people across the country and more rural locations, which would, you know, be something close to my heart because I grew up in the middle of the Blue Ridge Mountains on a cattle farm. so by the year 2029, we we will be able to roll out fully across the country. And for anybody that is a US or British citizen that needs access by the year twenty thirty one, we can expect from twenty thirty-one to twenty thirty-six for the interface to be available to to every citizen.
Bill Canady: So if you're a middle market firm and you want to participate in this, or even an individual what does participation look like? What would you expect quantum computing to come in and do for your business or yourself?
Mark: I think the the areas on the list that I I see the most with middle market companies are companies that are innovating in the technology, high tech, farming, construction, irrigation, and power spaces, and to a certain extent health and life sciences and what typically is is novel about those companies is that they have the best in my experience patents in their particular niches. And so when I look at companies that really need the technology the most, their patents and their way of living is maybe in jeopardy because for some reason either a competitor or an adversary has utilized AI in a way that's kind of ripped that out from from under them. And so that would be an ideal way because our subsidy programs right now, we have a ninety-one billion dollar subsidy program in the United States to help companies like that that have been hit by adversarial AI malware. And we we can certainly help them. One customer that I'm looking at in the middle market space right now had their banking and their charge cards basically taken by a foreign a foreign entity and their their payroll wasn't met because they were attacked by AI malware and their money was siphoned off to a foreign entity in another country. And so what we're doing with them is talking with them about whether we can work with the US government to make that possible. I'm just now moving into the middle market. So I think the problems will be slightly more nuanced and custom. And so I'm willing to to work with business owners and CEOs to look at creative ways to have the funding and the support to tap into the quantum computer capabilities that are available to them. because each one may be slightly different than the more MNC multinational corporation.
Bill Canady: So what, you know, KPI, if you're familiar with that term, I'm a CEO, I've I'm in a b business in Houston, you mentioned. I've I've been attacked. I I certainly my businesses have been attacked lost sensitive information, got put out on a dark web. You know, there's a cost associated that something feels like a black hole between trying to protect it and you you you can't fill that hole in no matter what you do. is it going to keep those bad actors away? And then there's a cost benefit ratio, right? If I'm spending, $100 million, it did not cost me $100 million to solve that issue. You know, so how would the ROI present itself in a way that makes me think this is the way I want to do it?
Mark: I mean, eventually where we will be is the the cost will be something like five to ten thousand a month
Bill Canady: Mm-hmm.
Mark: to tap into the quantum security. So it will be a affordable to middle markets and homes. I don't know w what the cost will be right now to tap into that for the middle market, amount. The the great thing about early adopters is that you get the security early and that you're you're protected from the AI malware for the long haul as well as the bad actors and and you're doing it with federal support. So you're you're technically like a angel of the federal government at that point.
Bill Canady: Wow, that's very interesting. Do you see that same opportunity in quantum physics or quantum computing?
Mark: Yeah, the largest buyer of quantum technology and user of it has been the federal government for the past twenty years.
Bill Canady: Mm-hmm.
Mark: for the past thirty years they've been starting in nineteen ninety two to ninety six, they had the first novel concepts. the Golden Dome has quantum support technologically at the federal level, but the true the true benefit of it will be when all Americans have quantum technology throughout the country and it's utilized as a way to provide security against the AI malware issues that we face and they are able to transparently see information. The the beauty about Quantum is it provides transparent information that's not biased. AI information is typically biased because it's it it it has a way of looking at information as us versus them. So that's the big change or difference.
Bill Canady: Hmm. When you strip away the physics and the, you know, the government piece of it and all that, what should a a typical hundred million dollar CEO do in the next ninety, hundred and eighty, one year? what should they absolutely not spend any money on or pay any attention to?
Mark: Well what they can look at is we we have our citadels media sources and our science available there. That's a a way to look at the information and to begin to understand the trending that's taking place. And then at quantadome.com we have examples of the build outs of the technology and So by looking at those two resources that are available today, the the CEO will be able to to garner what's going on with the dome and what's going on with the subsidy programs that we have. And then the next step is to reach out to me and the team and come up with a way for the business to be an early adopter, and we can provide a tiered approach where we look at you know, basic API information, which is to stay like abreast of what's going on with the technology. and then we could look at plugging in more with quantum and novel technology and then providing full security over time. I think that the key is is to recognize that we don't have to deal with AI malware by using AI to try to fight AI. that we've got a better tool than that at this point and that's what is the the primary objective of my life's work.
Bill Canady: What would be your perfect customer or perfect target to reach out to you? who is best suited to handle this today?
Mark: Somebody that wants to address an AI problem and that wants to work with me for maybe three years as a test is willing to try out different technologies in the quantum space and is not afraid, you know, of of working with the federal government to have the technology made available.
Bill Canady: You know, this has been an amazing segment here today. I've learned so much about an area that I, you know, candidly don't don't have a great depth of knowledge. And I did take an opportunity to read up on, you know, what's going on here. And and today the AI and all the money going into that is kind of sucking all the air out of the room, right? So that's where lots of resources are going, a lot of people's time and quantum computing and as you said, put be the guardrails, the manager for the AAI to maybe keep us safe and and keep us focused on it, but also be an enabler for future growth. So yeah, any last words, anything you'd like to to leave our listeners with that can help them as they run their businesses and their lives be more productive and and really take advantage of of this movement?
Mark: Yeah, my my life's work has been to make quantum computing available. Once the American people have the access that's required to correct the AI malware wrongs, I'm gonna be moving back into government. And I've just really enjoyed talking with you Bill, because you've given me the ability to say things like quantum management. I think the biggest thing is that quantum computing is not something to be afraid of. It's something that we have available to us as a tool to protect us from some of the scary things that we're seeing happen. And it does require some grit and perspiration to work in this space. Typically, it takes about six weeks to deploy the technology in a way. that's sufficient for the middle market business, but I am very dedicated to that and would love to have contact with folks that are want to be early adopters.
Bill Canady: You wanna tell them one more time how to get a hold of you if they are interested in learning more?
Mark: Sure, our main federal line is two zero two four two four zero one three five. the best email for me is Mark Reed A R K R E I D dot Davis D A V I S at Quantadome.com and I look forward to talking with you about your interest in quantum and how I can support you.
Bill Canady: Well, Mark, thank you so much for being with us today. It's been an enlightening segment. I've learned more here than I have in a long time. I can't thank you enough. thank you again, and it's been a real pleasure.
Mark: Thank you, Bill.
Bill Canady: Yes, sir.