#54 Ancient Practices and Modern Mysteries: Nathaniel Gillis's Journey into the Unknown

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Skip me branches like squirrel, baby.
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Welcome, fellow human, to the Disorganized Productions podcast,
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the show that fuels your spirit,
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and helps you become the best version of yourself.
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I'm your host, Rob,
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we'll embark you on a journey to unlock the power within you. Tap into your limitless potential
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and conquer life's challenges.
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Okay.
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Go ahead.
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Alright, man. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow human,
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welcome to another
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crazy
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already episode from disorganized productions.
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It's part 2 of a very special guest.
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And, to be honest with you, we, we hooked up several times throughout
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throughout the last couple of, hours
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days to get this fixed,
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but somehow this time schedule is, is screwing us up all the time.
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But please, a warm welcome for for Nathaniel
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Jilin.
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Thank you, brother. It's great to be with you, and oh my goodness. This is,
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yeah.
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I apologize for being so late, but, I I love you to death. You're one of my favorite hosts,
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and I'm excited to get into the research, my man. Oh,
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how was your time in England in in, Manchester? Because,
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you were my
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special birthday present.
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Right?
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And I think I I remember you went to Manchester for the first time out of America
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and, to do a lecture about the stuff that you're investigating. And I'm I'm very curious about that. Yeah.
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It was it was a blast. It was an out of body experience from the beginning to the end.
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It's a different world. You know? I I remember
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getting into the wrong side of the car over and over and over again.
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Yeah. And I felt like an idiot. But, it was amazing. I got to meet,
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some of, if not the best researchers in the world, Steve Marrow, Barry Fitzgerald,
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of course, my buddy Paul Sinclair,
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Mark Olley,
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and the Kinsella
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brothers.
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It was just an all around great experience,
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and,
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I know it meant so much to me because it's very for the very first time I got to meet a hero of mine,
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you know.
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Yeah. And that was
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oh, it's
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it was an out of body experience within an already
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out of body experience.
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Right?
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And, Limbo?
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It was it was incredible.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like yeah. Yeah. Inception.
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No.
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But, I loved it,
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and, I got to pick their brains, you know, and we have we had conversations that are,
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they were more in-depth than most conversations I've been able to have here in the States with other researchers.
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So I I I
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and, of course, the food was good. The food was, you know, I had some gravy and chips and gravy,
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I think it was. Uh-huh. But it overall was an incredible experience,
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and, I may be going back to film a lecture series,
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but, that's still in the talks. So Wow.
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That sounds good. I mean,
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the last time when we talked, I had, something with the word fascinating.
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I was listening to the episode today just to prepare a little bit. I never ever listen normally to my own episodes because, well, I just said it and I just, you know, bring the shit out.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it just I'm the same way. It freaks me out.
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I was only probably like, oh, fascinating. Fasting. It is fascinating to me. But
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talking to the word so much,
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it it it's just like if you say something very, very good and then you end with some cursing,
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it doesn't make sense. Right?
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Mhmm.
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Yeah. Yeah. We Well,
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yeah, go ahead.
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No. I enjoyed it. I had a blast, and, I'm thankful for a mutual
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friend for
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setting this up. You know? That was
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Wait. I'm gonna hop on to my other Internet connection because I see that my Internet is a little bit unstable,
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but that would be solved in a few seconds
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right now. Yes.
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Sorry to interrupt you.
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It's okay. Yeah. But, as I was saying, I think I don't know if you heard me or not, but I'm I'm glad that we have mutual friend in common and that he was able to to hook us up, man. It's always cool.
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Right. And he had some crazy experiences too. He was on
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Shane Jones, you know, inquires of reality,
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of our reality and bizarre encounters. I was there. Well, I did a show with him the other day.
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Okay.
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And we were talking also about some stuff, that's very connected to this to the paranormal that you encounter. Right?
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Mhmm. Mhmm. And,
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while I was listening to the episode today from from us that we did,
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I had something popping up in my mind because we were thinking about,
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and also what Shane Jones said.
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It seems like there's a layer of this reality just like a VHS
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tape.
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And when you in the early days, when you recorded something like a TV show and then
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you,
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record something over it,
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sometimes the old stuff comes through. You know?
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Mhmm. And I was talking with Shane about it. So
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and we were talking about it on the on the on the first episode too about Mhmm. That these dimensions
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are woven together,
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and somehow
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it seems also now
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that they
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they come together. It they they people see them more and more often like, oh, I saw a ghost or I saw some entities or I saw something going on that wasn't going on for a long time.
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What what's your what's your take on that?
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I think sometimes the veil thins,
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but, there are other cases that include the phenomenon just
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courting our human condition to see how much of it we can perceive.
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You know? And and I think that's an important nuance.
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But what I've been doing as of late is questioning, you know, at a certain point in the research,
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you've poured over copious amounts of case studies.
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And you know
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seemingly know some of the capabilities of this intelligence.
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And then at a certain point, I'm like, okay. Now that we do know that, we can prove it.
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What does this even mean for our species?
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I mean, if it's precognitive,
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if it knows the future to a certain degree,
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what does that mean for free will?
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What did right? And and it's almost as if we're living
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in an artificial habitat. And from time to time, the caretakers
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come in and
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out of our reality and make eye contact with us.
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And so learning about some of the capabilities of the phenomenon, it's like, alright.
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We know at least in in some cases that these beings will manifest
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as deceased loved ones, lovers, just the list goes on and on, guides.
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And there seems to be no intention outside of deception
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to where once we see beyond the mask, it's like okay
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now that we've proven
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you lie.
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Right? Mhmm. What's what's the need for that? Why is the deception so present within the phenomenon?
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Right. And so this constant
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act of
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obfuscation,
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wherein we know we're in the presence of something,
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But can we actually trust our eyes,
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our ears, our senses? And so at a certain like I said before at a certain point in my research, I'm like, okay.
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Can the phenomenon create physiological constructs?
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Can it create manifest apparitions?
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Just as in times past where it has appeared as deceased loved ones and guides,
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what if that is just one branch from the same tree?
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And then now we have to go deeper and say, okay. How much of hauntology, the study of hauntings, how much of hauntology has been
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literally fabricated
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by this phenomenon in order to author its own mythology
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within our species.
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Right? And we're and so that that's why I believe, again, in order to to hide from us, it has it has
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diversified
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its identity.
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And now me and some other research
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in the field even in the UK,
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we're asking the question, okay. Now that we know what has the capabilities to do these things, these manifestations,
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How much of these manifestations can we trust? Are they actual
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entities?
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Right? Are they ghosts? Are they real apparitions? Or is this phenomenon using that pen to construct and even reconstruct
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Mhmm. Our understanding of reality? Oh,
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that was based on
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It's deep. Based on what what we talked about on the last app. Episode that,
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eventually,
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researchers put it all like, oh, this is a separate
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thing that's going on. And then another thing but but then you connected all the dots. Like,
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is it,
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like,
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several entities, or is it just one that keeps on popping on different occasions and different,
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with different factors and stuff like that?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's because it's it's like calling a conglomerate or some
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like, calling Costco and getting the help desk at customer service. Press 1. Doop.
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And we got we right? We fed into the lie. And I I get I know some researchers suggest that this is an accident or this is some kind of human projection on our part. I don't believe that's the case at all. This phenomenon
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you could be passionate about me. This phenomenon
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not only knows
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what we would believe.
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Oh, it's an apparition,
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but it has hacked our belief system to the point it knows what we would find worthy
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of believing in. How?
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And so this implies this symbiotic relationship
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where
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it's not just the manifestation,
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the cognitive interface. It's not just I am Darren Edna that's occurring,
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but there are cases where the phenomenon will manifest to the experience, sir, and then start manipulating the emotions within them
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to agree with the image
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they're projecting.
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So my friend, this is where we are as a species. We're in the medium. We're in that paradigm, that dynamic
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between,
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right, not just thinking,
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but being thought for.
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Right.
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And so that's this again, the tailoring of the image to the experiencer.
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And then in a certain time period, boom. Now it's okay. Yes. You are.
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You are what you appear to be. And a part of this does bleed into the commandeering of consciousness, and we've seen this not just in hauntings,
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possession cases, but even in the UFO abduction phenomenon Mhmm. Where
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as in, like, okay, you have an experience or in their interfacing with the entity,
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And the immediate reaction is this is not my mother. It's like doctor Carla Turner when she was abducted as a child. Oh, I'm your mother. No. You're not.
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And then there's a certain time that Barry Fitzgerald and Barry Fitzgerald bitches us too,
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where out of nowhere, suddenly the experience where it begins to have downloads and emotions
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that are implanted
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into them, into their consciousness. Right. And it's designed to agree
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and accommodate
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that entity's presence.
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So within our species, there is this,
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again, this paradigm,
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I call it in my book, the protocol of belief
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Mhmm. Where it's manifesting to, and then it's manifesting
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through.
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And so people confuse. Okay. That's a tulpa. It's a thought form in a way.
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Yeah. But the the image needs to be believed in, and it's in that
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paradigm that we fight.
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And and
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that's where I'm at now. It's not just, okay. I'm I I want to manifest as this entity. I'm going to manipulate your emotions, and I'm going to cause you to believe in the image.
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I am manifesting.
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A a good friend of mine it's an interesting case study, but a good friend of mine had broke up with his his girlfriend.
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And I I do so many shows. So if I repeat myself, just act like you didn't even see it, and we'll just move on. No. I'm just kidding. I'm joking, brother. But, yeah, he had broke up with his girlfriend, and he's, like, months later, he goes, I moved to a different part of town,
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a new address, new
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phone number, new apartment, new job, all that. And, he goes, I got off work, opened up a beer, next thing I know, knock at the door.
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And it's it's the ex girlfriend.
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And he's like, okay. What are you doing here? Well, she seduces him. But in the middle of the night, he wakes up.
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She's not there.
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He spoke to her,
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talked to her. Right? Spoke, talked to her. They went to bed together. Next thing you know, she's not there, and there's no evidence of her being there.
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Just his personal experience.
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And so a couple weeks go by, and so he's contacting her contacts,
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her friends, some old friends they had in common, finally gets her number. He calls her up.
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Hey.
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Well, what was the last night about? I don't know what you're talking about.
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No. Well, no. That wasn't me. I told you. We're done. Don't ever contact me again. That's why I blocked you. Right? You you moved across town. I have my life. You have your life. Leave me alone. That wasn't me.
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Now
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this this bleeds into
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simulants and how the phenomenon
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will
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implement
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someone that appears similar,
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something that looks similar to the naked eye. And this is why I wholeheartedly believe that that wholeheartedly rather that that just because it looks like a plane in the sky
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doesn't mean it is. Right. Right. And so then this leads me into this kind of this paradigm where
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in many cases, the phenomenon will blind us with our own vision.
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Uh-huh. Or do we blind ourselves with our own vision?
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Right. Right. You're exactly right. You're yeah. Yeah. So it's coming to and then coming through. And so there are times where the phenomenon will take pieces of our belief system
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from our consciousness
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and apply that to the image they're employing,
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where it is it's it's symbiotic be and this is also why in times past, we have experiences who cannot divorce themselves
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from that manifestation. Why? Because that was partially manifested from the experience or themselves.
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does that make sense?
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Yeah. It does. And I was thinking about it because
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it's it's something that you could visualize for yourself even if you if you are daydreaming.
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But the process of your own thoughts
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within daydreaming so when you have an intention when you go daydreaming or when you go, you know, I'm gonna take, like, a half an hour's,
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sit back and just do a little,
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snap, what's what's it called.
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Yeah. Yeah. Then you can
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implement your thoughts about what you're thinking about, but you can also visualize what you think about. And then it starts to Correct. You know? You you start, like,
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drawing something on a paper, and it comes like a text or it comes like a a statue or whatever.
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the thing and that's that's very interesting for me is,
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how many of these sightings
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that are most of the time
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from individuals alone
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that they're gonna tell you that they had,
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experience
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are made up
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by themselves,
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but experienced like it was real.
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between us and the phenomenon.
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So it's very strange. I mean, look what we're talking about. This is weird stuff. Right? And I love weird
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stuff. Yeah. Let's rock on. Yeah. I mean, but it it's it it gets into this this
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concept of reality.
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You know, it's like, alright. So this is a shared experience where it's not just manifesting to, it's manifesting
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through. And so at a certain point, it does
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it does require
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an investment
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from the experience.
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And so, like, I I had a, a case study with a preacher that was driving down the road, and he saw a,
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he was driving. I think it was Tennessee and his wife were on vacation,
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and they saw this beautiful lake. The light was sunlight was hitting it just right. It was reflection was beautiful. They took out their phone screen, you know, and start snapping photos. Right. Alright. Maybe they'll look at the photo. There is a metallic
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cigar shaped object hovering over the water.
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Could not be seen by the naked eye.
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Both of them, they all they saw was lit, but the camera caught
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a UFO or UAP now. Right? Uh-huh. Hovering over the water.
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And so it implies
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that we do not see them when they don't want us to.
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what they really look like.
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Another reference to, of my brother where he was working with a group of researchers
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in, I think it was the deep south where they were placing cameras on as many trees and as many light posts as they could find.
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And so they were capturing UAPs on camera.
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And one UAP sorted out on the left side of the camera as a bulb light.
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By the time it made it from the far left to the middle,
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it had contorted itself into a plane.
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Then by the time they get in, it's a plane.
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So this, again, this this kind of leans into the idea that
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obviously, it's the observer effect. No doubt. Yeah. But but what disturbs me the most is, again, that
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it doesn't just know what we believe in. The archetypes, it leans into and out of, but it knows what we would find worthy of believing in
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to where I believe is a big thing.
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There we go. There we go. Right? It's almost like
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okay. Let me say this. When I was in the UK, you know, I gave a lecture and everything, and I I was talking to this this individual.
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he had never heard of my research or probably even me. And so I'm like, okay. So a lot of stuff is fresh. So I went down to some of the the basics, you know, the research I was doing years ago. I was trying to construct this this theory.
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by the time
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I was able to to articulate it,
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I'm watching his eyes,
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and he got it. And when he got it, conversation's over.
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I mean, it was, hey. Hey. Look. You know, how you doing? How you doing? And he was, wait a wait a minute. Okay. Now we're getting it. And so there are versions of reality that are manufactured,
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constructed
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by this intelligence to cause us to think this is real,
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and it's not. Or at the very the very manifestation of it is not at all what's present. And so what do I mean? Just because it is the most visible
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doesn't mean it's the most present. Just then right? Just just because that's what we
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Right? Oh, well, that's that's what it is. No. That's the most perceivable
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to our senses,
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and yet there's something beyond beyond that manifestation
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that is targeting us.
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And this is why it's so crazy to think about. But in times past, we we kind of built, not us, but you have followed geology. You know, built our our research on what is discernible, what immediately
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meets the eye, what we could touch, and, okay, I sensed this. And that's fine.
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But the phenomenon
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hacked our belief system to the point that it realized that it doesn't need to hide from us to hide from us.
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It can manifest
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as something it was strange.
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Because what kind of a species does that? If it wanted to hide, it would. It would just never be discernible.
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No. This will walk right up to you, make eye contact. Right. But because of the the the because of the senses it's targeting,
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it circumvents
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our ability
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to define who they are,
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what their intentions are with us.
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And so there's almost like when it is present with us and when it wants to manifest,
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it's not what it truly is.
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It's it's, again, it's a mask. It's an archetype.
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And so right now, what I'm more interested in than anything else is vetting them.
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Because,
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again,
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if the phenomenon has been
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to us, but even in a manifestation,
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there are times it just skirts around
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our abilities
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to to not just interrogate them.
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Right? But and and I don't wanna ramble, but let me let me dive into this this little rabbit hole too. I think that it's not just covering its bases. It's covering its faces
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because there are bits of the new mask that are made up from the older ones.
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Right.
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And so
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within this paradigm, it's like, okay. Take this archetype off. Take this belief system off. What are you in the truest source of your existence?
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Right. And I don't know that we'll ever know that.
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Because, you know, again,
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to to do that go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's it's not only saying that,
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the manifest
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manifestation, your own belief system about when you really want to believe in something or when you see something like on a bonfire, you're with some friends hanging around, and you see something going by, and you don't know what it is. And someone said, oh, that's a fox. And someone said, oh, that's a dog or whatever. You know? Everybody has his own perspective of what they saw. But with that comes also with your own thoughts. What do you want to see? What do you want to believe?
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The other thing I'm,
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very interesting is
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what does could it have to do something with your own openness
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to willing to see these?
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Maybe it's it's like,
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the spectrum of light and the spectrum of our eyesight that if we manifest and if we are opening our chakras or 3rd eye, that maybe we can see more of the spectrum so we can see these entities
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better, and they can communicate better
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through us because we are
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more energy or you know?
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Right. Yes. And this gets back into the initiatory practices.
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You know, I've said this before. I'll say it again that the occult is not a bug in the phenomenon. It's a feature.
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It's one of the more preferred ways of communication between us and this intelligence.
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And so that's where as of late I've been focusing on that interconnectivity and saying, okay, how did our ancestors perceive them? And Mhmm.
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Right?
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Mhmm. Right? What are they?
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Are they are they themselves portals in which the phenomenon can manipulate consciousness and then use that, not as the driver, but as the vehicle Uh-huh. To where now they have the immortal portal
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to to manifest in this dimension. This is what the college leaders researching,
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just, you know, the host of government officials.
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what I'm doing now is kind of looking at the layers, these sedimentary layers of falsified
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deceptions.
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They've been giving us spoon feeding us throughout
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history.
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And so as far as I can tell,
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our ancestors
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were first told by the phenomenon
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that they
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were deceased loved ones.
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Mhmm.
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And so if you look at the funerary rights in Mesopotamia
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and Syria,
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you see that the first altars were built to them.
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And somewhere within that cultivated relationship,
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they gave our ancestors
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information, insights into another world.
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And so from the dawning
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first manifestations,
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there was the altar. There was the cultivating
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of a relationship
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where you give me something, and I will give you something in return.
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And so what's most alarming to me about this is is regardless
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of any postulations,
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any theories, hypothesis.
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If we go back to the root system of the phenomenon
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in recorded history, that's where it began.
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Right.
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So We can't touch base or Without when that was.
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Well, yeah. So I'm leaning towards the very first death, but we can't record that, and I can't prove that. Right? But, but, I mean, we're looking at the the early and light iron ages.
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I mean, in the old testament for those those, bibliophiles out there. Right? The old testament
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times, antiquity where I shouldn't say times, the old testament period
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where something was present,
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and
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it masqueraded
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as angels,
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demons,
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deities,
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demon gods, and then ancestors.
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And so if you look at their funerary rights, especially even the Catamua inscription that was,
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dug up in 2,008.
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Yeah. Okay. I'm dying. My soul is going to be inside an image of me. Mhmm.
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Now we're getting the necrotetics.
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My consciousness
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is going to leave this biological avatar,
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and it's going into another
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image of me. And so now you have the apparition possessing
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something that looked just like the body, but it's different a little bit. But it looks like
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what they just left. And so it was in that
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that framework that you suddenly have the emergence
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of conjuring
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into where they gave us ladders made of ladders. Here's what I want you to do. Mhmm. Mhmm.
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Why am I doing this? I don't know. I feel like it's downloads. Right? I'm gonna go out into the certain location and geographical
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area in Syria, I'm gonna do a, b, and c. Where did you get that information?
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Well, it came through me. And so then we see and I'm I'm telling you, to me, it's like the overlords. Right? That's the only term I have right now.
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Ambassadors of the protointelligence,
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but you see them seeking
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community,
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communication.
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And from that moment, you start seeing the emergence of sacrifices,
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altars,
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blood ritual
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Mhmm. Sex magic.
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Right? And in the incantations,
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that was then or incarnations.
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And so here's my point. Regardless of the masquerades,
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masquerading masks they've employed,
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there is a base note at the root of the phenomenon that's interreligious across cultural. Regardless
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of what we want from it, there are certain things they want from us.
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And it's both
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initiatory,
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and it's communal,
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even the God of the Bible, if you wanna go there. And some people are gonna watch this, like, okay. We're waiting for Nathaniel to touch on this.
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It's the same methodology.
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Right?
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Bring me an altar. Go to a high place.
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And so at this point in my research,
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I'm asking myself,
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what is it? If it is not purely demonic in the sense of, you know, horns and hooves, if it's if we have, you know,
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abandoned the ETH, the extraterrestrial,
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what kind of an intelligence can use both of those as archetypes
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and still be present with us in this world? Right. That that would mean we're not just talking about entities flying around in spacecrafts
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or, you know, it No. No. No. It's Something is different, and it's very wrong here. It it looks like,
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I picture it like
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the ether, the the something that you can see, but it's still there.
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And maybe it's like
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sometimes glitching, and, of course,
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time doesn't exist.
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Mhmm. We have a time as as as humans nowadays. Like, okay. It's it's isn't that tight. But but there are so many levels on time, and that's what you see when these,
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ghost appearance or poltergeist is most of the Right.
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Mostly
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on one time spectrum of the day of the or year or the month, whatever,
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that they're gonna shown up. So what if this hard drive of reality
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or the hard drive of,
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ether
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is, manipulated
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or maybe a little bit,
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flawless,
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so it glitches.
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And then we see Yeah.
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Yes.
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We see the black cat, Neil.
466
00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:21.840
Yeah.
467
00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:23.600
Yeah. Absolutely,
468
00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:25.919
my friend. That's 100% true.
469
00:30:26.565 --> 00:30:31.385
Yeah. And so what it means is okay that sometimes the reality like you said, it glitches
470
00:30:31.925 --> 00:30:36.800
enough for us to notice it. Mhmm. And so then it's like, okay. Is that their intention?
471
00:30:37.820 --> 00:30:45.875
Right. And is it is it that, they they want to be seen? Or I think Shane Jones pointed out that I think he had a,
472
00:30:46.895 --> 00:30:48.035
experience where
473
00:30:48.575 --> 00:30:49.475
he was doing
474
00:30:50.450 --> 00:30:52.309
research in in a haunted house.
475
00:30:53.010 --> 00:30:59.270
And the entity that showed up was afraid of him because he thought that he was the ghost.
476
00:31:01.075 --> 00:31:02.775
So in the time layer
477
00:31:03.315 --> 00:31:04.535
yeah. So
478
00:31:05.315 --> 00:31:05.794
what if
479
00:31:06.355 --> 00:31:13.450
well, not what if. Time doesn't exist, but when when you show up on a several on on a occasion,
480
00:31:14.950 --> 00:31:19.605
pitch pointed on on a minute, on a second, on on that day, there in that moment,
481
00:31:20.465 --> 00:31:20.965
and
482
00:31:21.345 --> 00:31:25.525
you see something like, oh, that's let's say it goes for example.
483
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.500
What that ghost sees in his
484
00:31:29.040 --> 00:31:30.660
time and his dimension,
485
00:31:31.280 --> 00:31:32.900
you Right. As a ghost.
486
00:31:35.295 --> 00:31:36.755
That's actually yeah. It's weird.
487
00:31:37.535 --> 00:31:39.955
Andrea Perron mentioned that one time.
488
00:31:40.575 --> 00:31:43.930
She said that, she experienced that same manifestation
489
00:31:44.390 --> 00:31:45.690
at the conjuring ounce,
490
00:31:46.470 --> 00:32:01.290
which, you know, there are some people that would say, okay. Well, I don't believe in this encounter or I discount this experience. That's fine until you have a 1,000,000 others or a 1,000 others that come and substantiate it. Like, that happened to me. You can call this person crazy, but I know I'm not crazy. And yeah.
491
00:32:01.910 --> 00:32:06.490
So but there is there are glitches, and that's what the per perhaps the strangest thing about all of this
492
00:32:07.164 --> 00:32:07.664
is
493
00:32:09.965 --> 00:32:13.985
that if the phenomenon can con construct or or create physiological constructs,
494
00:32:14.365 --> 00:32:18.830
if in times past we've made eye contact with it, but didn't know what it was
495
00:32:19.309 --> 00:32:22.049
Mhmm. Interacting with us on a personal basis,
496
00:32:22.830 --> 00:32:26.210
then it's like, okay. Well, then how much power over reality
497
00:32:27.615 --> 00:32:28.674
does this have?
498
00:32:30.495 --> 00:32:41.930
And this, again, this gets back into the portion of our existence that they're targeting. I mean, if you're if we're dealing with a species where it's a cognitive interface interfacing with us and but they can also
499
00:32:42.310 --> 00:32:43.930
monitor our belief system.
500
00:32:44.585 --> 00:32:46.285
I'm talking like I had
501
00:32:46.745 --> 00:33:06.665
a the experience I was working with where the manifestation occurred when she was a kid. So the entity manifested, and I think I probably told you this last time, where, you know, it's her favorite cartoon. And so, yeah, okay, fine. My favorite cartoon. Everything's kosher. Everything's good. You know, she go goes along with the entity and and its intentions. Then later on, she grows up, but then they manifest again as the same cartoon character.
502
00:33:07.045 --> 00:33:10.745
And so you see where sometimes the program lags.
503
00:33:11.309 --> 00:33:14.529
And you you it's fascinating because it had to improvise.
504
00:33:14.830 --> 00:33:20.929
Uh-huh. And when it improvise, this experience said that it started moving its eyes. Now this, again, this is freaky.
505
00:33:21.985 --> 00:33:22.805
This is
506
00:33:23.665 --> 00:33:26.325
this is why I'm I'm not satisfied with the ETH
507
00:33:27.345 --> 00:33:29.045
or the demonological
508
00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:31.490
approach, whatever.
509
00:33:31.950 --> 00:33:38.610
Something's very wrong about all this because it started using its eyes to measure her belief
510
00:33:40.155 --> 00:33:41.695
in its image.
511
00:33:43.995 --> 00:33:47.375
You know what that sounds like? It sounds like the root system,
512
00:33:47.810 --> 00:33:50.070
the dawning first breaths of idolatry.
513
00:33:52.450 --> 00:33:58.934
Oh. Believing in the image. And by believing in the image, it creates, and it it opens a portal
514
00:33:59.475 --> 00:34:00.375
for manifestation.
515
00:34:01.075 --> 00:34:02.054
Right. I mean,
516
00:34:02.515 --> 00:34:09.170
going into these case studies, especially with an incubi succubi literature, over, over, and over again is replete the same behavioral pattern
517
00:34:09.710 --> 00:34:10.210
manifesting
518
00:34:10.590 --> 00:34:11.410
as something.
519
00:34:12.590 --> 00:34:16.325
And then it wasn't just okay. The experience witnesses the cognitive
520
00:34:16.625 --> 00:34:17.125
interface,
521
00:34:17.505 --> 00:34:20.325
but the experience or had to believe in it.
522
00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:26.490
And then from believing in it, then it was almost like the phenomenon
523
00:34:27.350 --> 00:34:29.130
stepped into the role,
524
00:34:30.555 --> 00:34:32.655
and it was permissive will.
525
00:34:34.795 --> 00:34:40.100
So this is the symbiotic relationship that I'm doing my best to articulate as of late. It's like,
526
00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:44.980
okay. What exactly are we dealing with? What kind of a species would traverse
527
00:34:45.680 --> 00:34:46.420
light years
528
00:34:47.605 --> 00:34:51.145
and then test our belief in the image it's manifesting as.
529
00:34:51.845 --> 00:34:54.630
Let let me go down this rabbit hole. This is why I believe
530
00:34:55.109 --> 00:34:57.130
that the Vatican has come forward
531
00:34:57.670 --> 00:35:00.089
with a a kind of redefined
532
00:35:01.509 --> 00:35:02.890
series of principles,
533
00:35:03.945 --> 00:35:05.485
how to test apparitions.
534
00:35:07.465 --> 00:35:07.965
Why?
535
00:35:08.905 --> 00:35:13.250
From my perspective, my friend, I 100% believe that was a part of disclosure.
536
00:35:15.650 --> 00:35:20.070
Because if the phenomenon can have a conversation with you without you knowing
537
00:35:20.370 --> 00:35:21.750
who you're talking to,
538
00:35:23.775 --> 00:35:28.595
now it can start to use an employee revisionist history where it can now redefine
539
00:35:28.974 --> 00:35:29.474
doctrine.
540
00:35:30.049 --> 00:35:32.950
Mhmm. It can actually redefine tradition
541
00:35:34.369 --> 00:35:35.589
and take centuries
542
00:35:35.890 --> 00:35:36.789
of teachings
543
00:35:37.170 --> 00:35:37.829
of mystical
544
00:35:38.289 --> 00:35:38.789
tradition.
545
00:35:39.295 --> 00:35:41.475
And then kind of tilted its way.
546
00:35:41.855 --> 00:35:42.355
Uh-huh.
547
00:35:43.055 --> 00:35:52.900
Uh-huh. Without our ability to fit in. So the Vatican is saying, listen. Not everything that appears love and light is, number 2, not everything that appears as an angel is,
548
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.940
which believe it or not, it it's kind of landing right in our lap. It's kind of
549
00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:01.845
right in our our wheelhouse right now. Right.
550
00:36:02.385 --> 00:36:02.885
But
551
00:36:03.265 --> 00:36:07.045
I hope this makes sense, man. Yeah. So somewhere in this belief system,
552
00:36:08.065 --> 00:36:09.170
it it it
553
00:36:09.650 --> 00:36:10.930
causes me to believe
554
00:36:12.450 --> 00:36:13.589
I should say that.
555
00:36:13.890 --> 00:36:15.430
Number 1, that
556
00:36:16.825 --> 00:36:19.725
it's more centered around idolatry and antiquity
557
00:36:20.505 --> 00:36:21.005
Oh.
558
00:36:21.545 --> 00:36:23.805
Than some would like it to be. And
559
00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:26.849
just like this intelligence did in the Levant,
560
00:36:27.710 --> 00:36:29.490
it's authoring its own mythology,
561
00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:31.410
covering its faces,
562
00:36:32.075 --> 00:36:32.974
wiping memories,
563
00:36:33.435 --> 00:36:34.255
and perhaps
564
00:36:34.555 --> 00:36:39.615
when it doesn't wanna be seen, it isn't. But even when it does want to be witnessed,
565
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.540
can we trust what we're seeing?
566
00:36:45.160 --> 00:36:45.660
Yeah.
567
00:36:47.535 --> 00:36:48.595
That's a good one.
568
00:36:49.295 --> 00:36:51.395
Well, that one almost got me out of the whole field.
569
00:36:52.975 --> 00:36:54.195
It's like, what's the point?
570
00:36:54.495 --> 00:36:54.995
Yeah.
571
00:36:55.455 --> 00:36:56.735
Yeah. But but but,
572
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.579
the the more you the more questions that you
573
00:37:01.200 --> 00:37:02.420
get answers to,
574
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.300
the more questions that you have. Right? The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
575
00:37:08.465 --> 00:37:12.165
Right. And, especially, I I know how how old is it,
576
00:37:12.545 --> 00:37:13.045
like,
577
00:37:13.505 --> 00:37:14.005
ufology,
578
00:37:15.349 --> 00:37:15.849
demonology?
579
00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:17.530
Is is it something, like,
580
00:37:17.830 --> 00:37:26.575
developed the last couple of centuries, or is it is it, like, 1,000 of years old that people were fascinated with that? Well, I mean, mononeurophology
581
00:37:27.035 --> 00:37:28.015
started in, like,
582
00:37:29.825 --> 00:37:30.895
the late fifties.
583
00:37:31.270 --> 00:37:36.330
Right. As we know it yeah. In terms of their and I may be wrong on that specific
584
00:37:36.630 --> 00:37:37.130
date,
585
00:37:37.910 --> 00:37:40.090
but in terms of MUFON
586
00:37:41.035 --> 00:37:41.535
and,
587
00:37:42.474 --> 00:37:42.974
congregation
588
00:37:43.275 --> 00:37:46.734
of researchers coming together and seeing, okay. We're gonna create a group.
589
00:37:48.720 --> 00:37:54.820
But it here's the problem, though. I mean, if we're looking okay. Let's go back to some of these case studies. We have pilots now
590
00:37:55.120 --> 00:37:56.500
that are coming forward
591
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.860
saying that
592
00:37:59.505 --> 00:38:00.405
they're witnessing
593
00:38:01.424 --> 00:38:03.125
crafts that are not physical.
594
00:38:03.825 --> 00:38:05.285
Uh-huh. They're not.
595
00:38:06.710 --> 00:38:07.770
There is footage,
596
00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:11.130
and Steve Maris shared this in one of his lectures. It's incredible.
597
00:38:11.910 --> 00:38:14.490
Where it is either our government or his,
598
00:38:15.145 --> 00:38:17.405
They had these UFOs in the sky, lights.
599
00:38:17.865 --> 00:38:21.405
They shot missiles at them. And when they the missile hit them,
600
00:38:21.945 --> 00:38:22.445
the
601
00:38:23.210 --> 00:38:24.589
came back together again.
602
00:38:26.970 --> 00:38:29.309
The UFO. The missiles went through them.
603
00:38:30.415 --> 00:38:30.915
They
604
00:38:31.375 --> 00:38:31.875
dematerialized,
605
00:38:32.175 --> 00:38:34.515
and they materialized back to the same exact
606
00:38:35.135 --> 00:38:36.355
shape they were before.
607
00:38:37.855 --> 00:38:40.960
One one diver came through, and said that
608
00:38:41.420 --> 00:38:45.440
they were investigating the ocean floor, and they turned, and they saw a UFO
609
00:38:46.940 --> 00:38:48.720
with occupants on the outside
610
00:38:50.234 --> 00:38:51.055
in the ocean
611
00:38:51.434 --> 00:38:52.974
trying to fix the UFO.
612
00:38:55.115 --> 00:38:55.615
So,
613
00:38:56.394 --> 00:38:56.894
again,
614
00:38:57.500 --> 00:39:00.960
this is why I'm leaning more towards the gnostic view
615
00:39:03.260 --> 00:39:04.160
of the phenomenon
616
00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:04.960
because
617
00:39:05.740 --> 00:39:09.335
I think we have been so convinced that an invasion
618
00:39:09.714 --> 00:39:10.214
is,
619
00:39:10.914 --> 00:39:15.734
you know, biological avatars landing on the White House lawn. I don't think we were prepared
620
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.340
for a parasitic species to invade
621
00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:21.540
reality.
622
00:39:23.895 --> 00:39:24.795
Oh, yeah.
623
00:39:25.335 --> 00:39:28.155
Zooming in to the very fabric of existence
624
00:39:29.255 --> 00:39:33.230
and then placing themselves into that, carving out space
625
00:39:35.310 --> 00:39:37.090
time, and then showing up.
626
00:39:38.430 --> 00:39:40.930
This is Could it be a life form
627
00:39:41.385 --> 00:39:43.565
that the things that we see
628
00:39:44.025 --> 00:39:47.405
aren't the things that we see, but it's a life form?
629
00:39:47.785 --> 00:39:48.285
Like,
630
00:39:48.665 --> 00:39:49.405
when you
631
00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:53.770
first first in your in your life see a lizard, then you wanna,
632
00:39:54.569 --> 00:40:08.275
take him by his tail, and all of a sudden, the tail is gone and he runs off. Or, like, when you chop off chicken's head that is gonna run off? You know, that it's like a life form instead of something that we think we see.
633
00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:11.620
Yes.
634
00:40:13.520 --> 00:40:19.060
Well, I'm leaning towards the live form of something. But then again, I mean, if these if these are like, Nigel Turner
635
00:40:19.425 --> 00:40:20.085
had posited
636
00:40:20.385 --> 00:40:20.885
that
637
00:40:21.305 --> 00:40:21.805
that,
638
00:40:24.145 --> 00:40:27.525
these were biological avatars, but that they were
639
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:28.900
almost
640
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:29.859
like ambassadors,
641
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:31.619
robots
642
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:32.819
of another
643
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:34.579
another or another
644
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:35.780
civilization,
645
00:40:36.485 --> 00:40:42.905
but that civilization died off. And so now they don't know what else to do. They just do what they've always been doing. That's one theory.
646
00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:47.839
But getting down to the brass tacks of it, yeah, it does seem like they are
647
00:40:48.299 --> 00:40:49.040
not just
648
00:40:51.734 --> 00:40:52.954
not just manipulating
649
00:40:53.335 --> 00:40:54.075
our perceptions,
650
00:40:55.895 --> 00:40:56.395
but
651
00:40:57.255 --> 00:41:02.690
but lying to us in the sense that okay, yeah, To invade us, they have to shoot planes down. Mhmm.
652
00:41:02.990 --> 00:41:13.095
Right? They're bleed they're they're they're bleeding and leaning into that seventies or even fifties narrative of of of invasion. No. But if this has invaded reality itself,
653
00:41:13.635 --> 00:41:14.694
like I said,
654
00:41:15.315 --> 00:41:16.055
to where
655
00:41:16.730 --> 00:41:20.190
we're driving down the road and we see something and we think that
656
00:41:20.570 --> 00:41:21.070
belongs
657
00:41:22.010 --> 00:41:26.665
Mhmm. Then it doesn't. It doesn't. That's not a car. That's not a plane. That's not a person.
658
00:41:26.965 --> 00:41:27.945
It's the phenomenon.
659
00:41:28.325 --> 00:41:39.460
Right. It is an extension of this intelligence that is coexisting with us. This is why I also believe the government knows this, and that's why the hybridization you know, the hybridization program never really did work on me because I'm like, okay.
660
00:41:39.839 --> 00:41:48.305
What? Right? I'm a starseed. Okay. Tell me how you're forgive me. People People don't watch this. What do you mean? I'm not, like, poo pooing anything or anybody specifically.
661
00:41:48.605 --> 00:41:50.145
Mhmm. I'm seeing that
662
00:41:50.660 --> 00:41:53.800
the hybridization program is a little bit more too is a little bit too tangible.
663
00:41:54.260 --> 00:42:00.825
Uh-huh. You know, when people like Nick Redfern and other researchers specifically in our government, when they've been visited by these entities,
664
00:42:01.685 --> 00:42:02.985
it was quite literally
665
00:42:03.445 --> 00:42:05.705
materializing and dematerializing at will,
666
00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:07.570
which,
667
00:42:07.870 --> 00:42:11.890
again, takes all of our notions of physics, just shatters them,
668
00:42:12.270 --> 00:42:13.570
snaps them in half.
669
00:42:13.895 --> 00:42:20.315
This is why I'm seeing that if an intelligence has the capability to string us along through 1000 of years,
670
00:42:20.855 --> 00:42:23.675
you know, constantly incarnating into different archetypes,
671
00:42:24.060 --> 00:42:28.720
That would make sense as to why. It's not just outside of the room. It's outside of the house.
672
00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:30.000
It is
673
00:42:30.780 --> 00:42:34.425
yeah. So that's why I'm I'm leaning more to the simulation theory.
674
00:42:35.205 --> 00:42:35.705
And
675
00:42:36.565 --> 00:42:38.105
if you take your mind that,
676
00:42:39.210 --> 00:42:40.910
well, scientists say, like,
677
00:42:42.570 --> 00:42:43.070
3
678
00:42:43.450 --> 00:42:45.310
quarter of the earth is water,
679
00:42:45.645 --> 00:42:48.224
and we discovered about 5% of that.
680
00:42:48.765 --> 00:42:59.780
Well, first of all, you don't know what 5% is if you don't know what 100% is. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You can't quantify that. Right? No. Exactly. And if you see, like, some species, like some octopus can
681
00:43:01.005 --> 00:43:03.664
hide themselves with colors like a chameleon,
682
00:43:04.204 --> 00:43:07.424
but also with, adapting into the environment.
683
00:43:08.329 --> 00:43:10.510
What I wanna point out with that is that
684
00:43:11.369 --> 00:43:12.349
maybe we
685
00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:18.755
think that we are superior in our nature because we have thoughts and we can talk to each other.
686
00:43:19.455 --> 00:43:23.395
Of course, animals communicate with each other too, but you don't have thoughts. Like, a bunny
687
00:43:23.775 --> 00:43:33.500
doesn't have a thought, like or emotions like, oh, shit. That bunny is screwing that bunny, so I gotta find another bunny. You know, with the stuff like that. Yeah. It starts to scare. Yeah.
688
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:43.565
Exactly. But rest has a look. Maybe Bugs Bunny does that, but it's a it's it's a character. Right? Was like Rick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's way different. Right. But the thing is,
689
00:43:44.990 --> 00:43:47.730
maybe there are other life forms
690
00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:49.090
on this planet
691
00:43:50.030 --> 00:43:50.930
Mhmm. That
692
00:43:51.230 --> 00:43:51.730
are
693
00:43:53.355 --> 00:44:00.895
not been shown yet to humans or maybe now that we are more people and with more recording devices.
694
00:44:01.570 --> 00:44:02.470
Let's say 20
695
00:44:02.770 --> 00:44:03.510
years ago,
696
00:44:04.050 --> 00:44:08.800
almost no one had a telephone that they could rec record or make a picture.
697
00:44:09.275 --> 00:44:13.775
And even on the pictures on on 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago,
698
00:44:14.075 --> 00:44:18.990
you saw some things popping up that you couldn't see with your naked eye. So the question is,
699
00:44:20.330 --> 00:44:21.070
is our
700
00:44:21.450 --> 00:44:22.670
eyesight so
701
00:44:23.770 --> 00:44:25.630
advanced or maybe so
702
00:44:25.930 --> 00:44:26.910
little advanced
703
00:44:27.775 --> 00:44:43.900
compared to the things that we have nowadays when when even the Mandela effect is something that's like a timeline we go through that all of a sudden, all of the the monocular guy for the the binoculars of the the monopoly guy are gone. You know? Just like and Berenstain and Berenstain.
704
00:44:44.200 --> 00:44:45.195
Just like, what
705
00:44:46.555 --> 00:44:51.615
the you know, there are so many things we can't explain, but still they are there.
706
00:44:52.290 --> 00:44:54.710
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're present lip and absent from.
707
00:44:55.010 --> 00:44:56.470
And it's possible that
708
00:44:59.330 --> 00:45:00.550
what we are researching
709
00:45:01.694 --> 00:45:02.755
in its entirety,
710
00:45:03.694 --> 00:45:06.835
right, is just what they want us to know,
711
00:45:07.214 --> 00:45:09.370
the direction they want us to go.
712
00:45:09.910 --> 00:45:13.690
And so this is why I consider just hanging up my hat
713
00:45:14.550 --> 00:45:15.370
and just
714
00:45:16.285 --> 00:45:18.224
leaving it entirely is because,
715
00:45:19.484 --> 00:45:20.145
you know,
716
00:45:20.525 --> 00:45:21.005
there's,
717
00:45:21.325 --> 00:45:24.625
we we we have so many blind spots as a species.
718
00:45:25.870 --> 00:45:27.010
So many of
719
00:45:27.390 --> 00:45:30.130
them. And, yeah, when these beings manifest,
720
00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:35.825
I mean, we're talking about entire families being placed in suspended animation.
721
00:45:37.005 --> 00:45:38.465
They had no choice.
722
00:45:41.405 --> 00:45:48.130
Bette Luca, when they walked through her door of her house, she turned around and her entire family.
723
00:45:49.630 --> 00:45:52.130
Right? Again, we've gotta put ourselves in their position.
724
00:45:52.590 --> 00:45:53.570
Believe in God.
725
00:45:54.434 --> 00:45:57.174
Right? They had everything you we would ever consider
726
00:45:57.474 --> 00:46:01.494
to be religious. Everything was in place. They allegedly had free will.
727
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.860
Mhmm. Everything that made them a human was there,
728
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.580
and yet they were statues.
729
00:46:10.575 --> 00:46:14.275
And they were there present presenting themselves. Hey. Hey. How are you doing, Betty?
730
00:46:15.295 --> 00:46:17.555
Right? And this this is almost like Westworld
731
00:46:18.700 --> 00:46:20.160
wherein, yeah, everybody's
732
00:46:20.460 --> 00:46:20.960
paused.
733
00:46:21.740 --> 00:46:23.920
Right. They will not remember this.
734
00:46:24.859 --> 00:46:26.079
Like the Black.
735
00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:27.039
Like
736
00:46:27.500 --> 00:46:32.135
Yeah. Well, all all the stuff that you see that that they are pointing out in movies.
737
00:46:32.595 --> 00:46:34.615
And, of course, they have to tell something,
738
00:46:35.155 --> 00:46:36.775
like, oh, we told you so.
739
00:46:37.640 --> 00:46:38.140
Yeah.
740
00:46:38.520 --> 00:46:39.020
And
741
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:57.820
and even total recall that that, you know, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, he goes through other planets and stuff like that. But there's so many things coming out know nowadays that you just like, oh, wait a minute. We were talking about that 10 years ago, but that was a conspiracy. And now all of a sudden, they make a movie movie out of it. So Yeah. You know? Oh, yeah.
742
00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:00.320
The powers,
743
00:47:01.100 --> 00:47:02.800
the between air hooks,
744
00:47:04.305 --> 00:47:06.464
they are fascinated by the thing that,
745
00:47:07.184 --> 00:47:11.684
maybe they know and they like it that we don't know. But they give us, like, breadcrumbs
746
00:47:13.430 --> 00:47:18.410
calling us stupid names like conspiracy theories and stuff like that. I'm a critical thinker.
747
00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:21.930
And when I'm listening to topics like you you talk about, Nathaniel,
748
00:47:22.665 --> 00:47:31.565
these are something that that's fascinating. It's interesting. It's something like, okay. What what about if you just like we did the last time, you know,
749
00:47:33.070 --> 00:47:40.450
feed each other on the topic. So, you know, you you go further with the steps. But I can imagine when you
750
00:47:42.655 --> 00:47:43.795
into this topic
751
00:47:44.415 --> 00:47:53.820
that you're quite isolated from all of reality and all of social context because a lot of people don't want to dig into that or don't even
752
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.100
grab just like a little bit what you're doing.
753
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:57.980
Right?
754
00:47:58.684 --> 00:48:01.744
Yeah. Absolutely, my friend. And there have been times when I've
755
00:48:03.005 --> 00:48:07.904
and this is not in terms of, like, the phenomena of my level and towards me. I mean, there have certainly been those cases
756
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:13.240
in times past, but where I've stared into the abyss and looked over the edge.
757
00:48:14.740 --> 00:48:15.240
And,
758
00:48:16.655 --> 00:48:18.835
yeah, it's it's easy to just
759
00:48:20.095 --> 00:48:25.395
Yeah. Clock out. Yeah. Go go get a job stocking shelves and never touch this again.
760
00:48:25.950 --> 00:48:28.450
Because the closer we get to it,
761
00:48:29.309 --> 00:48:31.170
the more we realize that
762
00:48:31.470 --> 00:48:32.609
this is not reality
763
00:48:33.665 --> 00:48:36.005
and that whatever they are,
764
00:48:36.945 --> 00:48:39.845
they have access to our houses, our cars,
765
00:48:40.385 --> 00:48:42.485
our bodies, our consciousness.
766
00:48:45.010 --> 00:48:45.510
Right?
767
00:48:45.970 --> 00:48:47.670
This is something that,
768
00:48:48.690 --> 00:48:50.390
the authors within antiquity,
769
00:48:50.955 --> 00:48:51.855
they try to articulate,
770
00:48:53.115 --> 00:48:57.215
like, specifically within idolatry. They said, okay. This is actually in Psalms.
771
00:48:58.580 --> 00:49:09.795
Again, I'm not making it religious, but there there are certain ideas Yeah. There are some Right. Things touched on Yes. In some books. Thank you. Yeah. People are like, that's too religious. I'm like, okay.
772
00:49:10.815 --> 00:49:14.650
Who are we building altars to? I'm sure that's not religious either. Right? Right.
773
00:49:15.430 --> 00:49:22.545
Nothing to do with it. No. No, Parsons. No. But, yeah, the basically, the these authors were trying to to explain
774
00:49:23.645 --> 00:49:36.685
this relationship, the symbiotic relationship between us and them. And so and even Irvin Finkle touches on this where in order to get rid of 1 demon in a haunted house, you go to an artifact of a certain metal and they pour this image into a mold.
775
00:49:37.885 --> 00:49:39.425
And they take that image,
776
00:49:39.885 --> 00:49:41.185
place it in their home.
777
00:49:41.725 --> 00:49:46.599
That image will scare away the other. Right. It's manifesting in the house.
778
00:49:47.140 --> 00:49:51.400
And so David is trying to articulate this the only way he knew how.
779
00:49:51.859 --> 00:49:54.200
And he begins the text with,
780
00:49:55.285 --> 00:49:57.065
in the Hebrews, it's mind blowing,
781
00:49:57.925 --> 00:49:58.425
that
782
00:49:59.525 --> 00:50:00.345
an idol
783
00:50:00.805 --> 00:50:02.185
molds a man.
784
00:50:06.010 --> 00:50:13.950
How In the King James, right, that's a in King James version, it says that a man molds the idol, and then it explains how he does it.
785
00:50:15.325 --> 00:50:16.704
It's actually in 2nd Chronicles.
786
00:50:17.085 --> 00:50:22.145
So but but, anyways, what I'm what he's the author is trying to articulate here is this relationship where
787
00:50:22.684 --> 00:50:23.505
long before
788
00:50:24.390 --> 00:50:27.530
the man goes out and molds the image of the statue,
789
00:50:27.990 --> 00:50:33.609
the entity wanting to become incarnate has already molded the imagination of that man,
790
00:50:34.855 --> 00:50:37.035
projecting its image into the mind
791
00:50:37.975 --> 00:50:41.515
and then using the hands and using that in that individual
792
00:50:42.100 --> 00:50:44.440
to become an incarnate into this dimension.
793
00:50:46.660 --> 00:50:52.595
So there with the with the with the things that you point out with the staff and stuff like that that There we go. Right?
794
00:50:53.455 --> 00:50:54.595
Yes. Yes. 100%.
795
00:50:55.295 --> 00:50:57.715
This this straight and it's very strange,
796
00:50:58.494 --> 00:51:00.675
but it's not just that we are avatars,
797
00:51:01.420 --> 00:51:03.280
and it's not just that we
798
00:51:03.660 --> 00:51:04.559
are independently
799
00:51:05.020 --> 00:51:08.400
creating thought forms. Mhmm. Because now this is profound.
800
00:51:08.895 --> 00:51:12.115
But if we can be thought for
801
00:51:13.295 --> 00:51:13.795
and,
802
00:51:14.175 --> 00:51:17.315
right, and if we are, in fact, creating thought forms,
803
00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:23.920
then the entity thinking for is the one shaping its own form.
804
00:51:25.260 --> 00:51:25.760
Right?
805
00:51:26.615 --> 00:51:28.395
It's making sense. Yes.
806
00:51:29.335 --> 00:51:29.835
Absolutely.
807
00:51:30.855 --> 00:51:38.480
And I think that also has to do with the manifestation what we talked about. Right? Right. That's symbiotic relationship. You create your own reality
808
00:51:38.859 --> 00:51:48.935
by There we go. Stating it, by believing in it, by your your deepest desire, your your burning ambition to be that person or whatever you wanna be.
809
00:51:49.530 --> 00:51:53.070
There we go. And the mirror tells you that you are
810
00:51:53.450 --> 00:51:56.589
going to get or are being that person or not.
811
00:51:57.445 --> 00:51:57.945
Right.
812
00:51:58.325 --> 00:52:04.585
It's it's this it's this this, again, this weird paradigm of I'm thinking hold on, man. My dogs are running on that. You can edit this.
813
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.260
Hold on real quick. You hear that? No props. Oh my god, dude.
814
00:52:10.680 --> 00:52:12.460
Hey. I'm on a show. You gotta show.
815
00:52:13.725 --> 00:52:14.625
There we go.
816
00:52:15.005 --> 00:52:16.385
That's all I had to do, brother.
817
00:52:16.925 --> 00:52:19.665
Oh, that's it. No. I'm not gonna ask you that.
818
00:52:20.045 --> 00:52:27.360
You're like you're like, dude, I've been waiting for a day and 40 minutes on you. So no. I'm just kidding. Yeah. I'm just no, dude. But, yes, this again, this
819
00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:30.000
he's he's doing his best to
820
00:52:30.684 --> 00:52:31.744
not just comprehend,
821
00:52:32.204 --> 00:52:33.345
but to communicate
822
00:52:33.724 --> 00:52:39.345
this symbiotic relationship between us and them. They may not be an extension of us
823
00:52:40.350 --> 00:52:42.770
purely, but they need us to become them.
824
00:52:43.710 --> 00:52:45.970
So there is this the this
825
00:52:46.750 --> 00:52:47.970
independent existence,
826
00:52:48.585 --> 00:52:51.085
but then there's also this need of theirs.
827
00:52:51.865 --> 00:53:02.120
Right? If they wanted to be absent with from us, then just be absent from us. You don't have to be present with, but then absent from. Right. So their their very presence in our world,
828
00:53:03.060 --> 00:53:05.080
it implies a want or a need.
829
00:53:05.715 --> 00:53:10.935
And what I'm trying to demonstrate today is simply that, yes, the cognitive interfaces
830
00:53:11.715 --> 00:53:13.175
are deeply interwoven
831
00:53:13.555 --> 00:53:15.640
into the fabric of our consciousness.
832
00:53:16.420 --> 00:53:25.875
And that's why it's constant. Like, okay. Yeah. And this is can can other researchers have talked about this where, you know, if you go into a haunted house, you're a demonologist,
833
00:53:26.734 --> 00:53:29.940
horns and hoes. If you're a ghost hunter, it's a ghost.
834
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:31.619
If you're a ufologist,
835
00:53:32.160 --> 00:53:39.815
and that's a theory I've been looking at, and I'm thinking at first, I'm like, I don't believe that at all. But there are times when it plucks out pieces
836
00:53:40.355 --> 00:53:41.095
of us
837
00:53:41.875 --> 00:53:43.494
and molds its image.
838
00:53:44.790 --> 00:53:55.855
Right. And then there that's where it's coming to and coming through, and that's what some of these authors in antiquity were trying to tell us that you're not it's not just you molding that interface.
839
00:53:57.194 --> 00:53:59.454
It's coming to you and through you.
840
00:54:00.500 --> 00:54:03.080
Right. And I I don't I don't I know that's it's very
841
00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:04.900
ambiguous, and I hate that. But
842
00:54:06.580 --> 00:54:10.005
But it is I mean, it is what it is sometimes. Right?
843
00:54:12.005 --> 00:54:12.244
And it is like
844
00:54:13.684 --> 00:54:15.384
and Shane pointed out too.
845
00:54:16.005 --> 00:54:17.384
If if there are
846
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:20.579
haunted houses,
847
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:22.099
there
848
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:23.539
also could be
849
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.765
some positive fights that are manifestating
850
00:54:27.225 --> 00:54:34.125
like, oh, I hear peep you know, in in an abandoned building that you hear people talking, have drinks, have music,
851
00:54:34.425 --> 00:54:34.925
like,
852
00:54:35.500 --> 00:54:37.760
good things. Right? So so
853
00:54:38.380 --> 00:54:39.120
and and
854
00:54:39.580 --> 00:54:43.440
it's like that what I said about the hard drive that's gonna be
855
00:54:44.075 --> 00:54:54.150
disconnected, reconnecting, or or showing some some some spectrum of the past or maybe the future even. Right? Because we don't know what's time anyway.
856
00:54:54.609 --> 00:54:58.309
So and that that really fascinates me. And also the thought that,
857
00:54:59.195 --> 00:55:03.695
Shane pointed out he he was in a abandoned haunted house with, like, a facility,
858
00:55:04.235 --> 00:55:05.455
and they took 22
859
00:55:07.900 --> 00:55:10.160
pieces of of, equipment with
860
00:55:10.460 --> 00:55:11.200
with them.
861
00:55:11.660 --> 00:55:13.040
Mhmm. When they did that,
862
00:55:13.660 --> 00:55:14.400
at night,
863
00:55:14.845 --> 00:55:16.464
things happen in their house.
864
00:55:17.085 --> 00:55:20.785
So it's not only the time and place,
865
00:55:21.565 --> 00:55:28.340
but also and you can see that also in in witch boxes and stuff like that. What you know, when you put on the or called seals
866
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:37.065
for entities like a doll and stuff like that. Like, they they put some entity in there. Don't don't touch it again. You can see it on the in the,
867
00:55:37.765 --> 00:55:49.270
Egyptian, Sarafaks, and stuff like that. When they open it up, people die and stuff like that. You can see it's a mold. It's it's a whatever, but it could be also like people want to get
868
00:55:51.795 --> 00:55:54.215
this dark energy or these dark forces
869
00:55:55.235 --> 00:56:02.890
into something, and you knew how to do that. Don't touch it. We buried it. And all of a sudden, 200, 400, 5000 years later,
870
00:56:03.190 --> 00:56:09.290
you know, you beep beep beep with with a with a metal detector on the land, then you find a box. Oh, let's open that.
871
00:56:09.815 --> 00:56:11.595
Oh, shit. Don't.
872
00:56:12.695 --> 00:56:16.375
Absolutely. Yeah. I'm gonna see a video on YouTube when I see when I see some,
873
00:56:16.855 --> 00:56:25.990
hexagrams and pentagrams and stuff like that. Don't open up that box. Don't It's real. It's real. Yeah. It's real. These these are insights into another world,
874
00:56:26.450 --> 00:56:30.595
and the power mechanism, the control mechanism often employed
875
00:56:31.055 --> 00:56:32.595
by whatever these things are.
876
00:56:32.895 --> 00:56:34.790
It's like they don't want us to know.
877
00:56:35.350 --> 00:56:38.570
You know, like, the case study with remote viewer I had, you know, the the
878
00:56:39.030 --> 00:56:40.410
should I say, alien
879
00:56:40.950 --> 00:56:42.170
ritual, alien
880
00:56:42.735 --> 00:56:44.355
sigils that were on his skin,
881
00:56:45.695 --> 00:56:50.195
I sent those those photograph the photographic evidence to other practitioners. They didn't know what to do with it.
882
00:56:51.060 --> 00:56:55.560
And, again, it was almost as if that which we were given or they were given
883
00:56:55.940 --> 00:57:00.760
as mages, magi, whatever you wanna call them, they were little bits and pieces, bread crumbs.
884
00:57:01.664 --> 00:57:04.565
Right? Whatever these things are operating in,
885
00:57:05.105 --> 00:57:06.565
it's completely different.
886
00:57:07.265 --> 00:57:12.900
And then it's and this is where I'm at now. I'm looking I'm currently going back through fetal magic
887
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.660
and just
888
00:57:15.575 --> 00:57:17.275
what was occurring in Mesopotamia,
889
00:57:17.655 --> 00:57:20.315
what were their beliefs, and are their truths,
890
00:57:20.615 --> 00:57:21.115
right,
891
00:57:21.495 --> 00:57:24.380
interwoven into some of the lies they were giving us.
892
00:57:24.859 --> 00:57:28.799
But what but, again, whatever we're dealing with, and this is my perspective.
893
00:57:29.180 --> 00:57:42.780
And, again, people could be like, well, I'm not seeing any photographic evidence. That's fine. You know? People who wanna see my shows have probably already seen that. They're coming to see, you know, is there anything new, you know, what you're doing lately. But what I'm doing lately here is, like, okay. Whatever these are,
894
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:43.820
they
895
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.220
it's way different than than extraterrestrial.
896
00:57:49.825 --> 00:57:52.244
It's way different than just purely demonic.
897
00:57:52.865 --> 00:57:56.644
I mean, if we start looking at the archetypes they've leaned into,
898
00:57:57.180 --> 00:58:00.000
quite literally, just like I said, revising history,
899
00:58:00.540 --> 00:58:03.760
we're okay. Yeah. There are horns and hooves. Next thing you know, we have a demonologist
900
00:58:04.060 --> 00:58:05.815
seeing horns and hooves and haunted houses.
901
00:58:07.494 --> 00:58:14.954
And so, you know, there were a group of people that came out especially within paranormal field. Oh, well, those were those were social constructs. Time out.
902
00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:18.200
We look at the way these manifested.
903
00:58:18.740 --> 00:58:23.080
Mhmm. Right? Those were social constructs. Yes. But they were also physiological.
904
00:58:23.625 --> 00:58:27.325
To that experiencer, they actually witnessed that.
905
00:58:27.865 --> 00:58:28.365
Right.
906
00:58:29.145 --> 00:58:30.940
So then what are we dealing with?
907
00:58:31.500 --> 00:58:40.745
We're dealing with an intelligence that can, like I said, all through its own mythology within the experience or the experience or themselves. Okay. Yeah. Oh, it must be a demon. Like
908
00:58:41.465 --> 00:58:44.845
right? Was it actually a demon? Was it actually horns and hooves?
909
00:58:45.385 --> 00:58:46.685
Was that actually an alien?
910
00:58:47.305 --> 00:58:53.390
Right? Because your perceptive of the thing that you see could be completely different than what it is.
911
00:58:53.930 --> 00:58:57.230
Yes. And it's and it's taking, like I said, portions of consciousness
912
00:58:57.609 --> 00:59:00.785
in your belief system, applying it to okay. This is my interface.
913
00:59:01.484 --> 00:59:04.625
So it's right. It's present with us. What's present with us? Mask.
914
00:59:05.164 --> 00:59:05.664
Mask.
915
00:59:05.964 --> 00:59:07.664
What's absent from us?
916
00:59:09.130 --> 00:59:10.590
The source, the protointelligence.
917
00:59:11.290 --> 00:59:13.390
Right. And so in that way,
918
00:59:13.770 --> 00:59:15.790
it has interacted with our species
919
00:59:16.365 --> 00:59:18.465
by being in the room but invisible
920
00:59:19.565 --> 00:59:22.865
because it is using again, it's using religion to hide.
921
00:59:23.470 --> 00:59:26.290
Oh, well, I saw it. Does it mean you saw the protointelligence?
922
00:59:27.390 --> 00:59:27.890
Mhmm.
923
00:59:29.150 --> 00:59:37.445
Right? It's, oh, this is making sense. And so in a way, it's like, okay. Why choose to be visible? Well, in being visible to you,
924
00:59:38.385 --> 00:59:39.445
does it compromise
925
00:59:39.745 --> 00:59:40.485
its identity?
926
00:59:41.890 --> 00:59:43.350
Doesn't compromise anything.
927
00:59:44.210 --> 00:59:46.550
And so it's more than just manifestation,
928
00:59:47.170 --> 00:59:48.230
it's a mirror.
929
00:59:49.305 --> 00:59:50.925
And it's more than a mirror.
930
00:59:51.225 --> 01:00:00.420
It implies that if the phenomenon is evolving according to our awareness of it, then we can only know the phenomenon to the extent that we know who.
931
01:00:00.799 --> 01:00:01.299
Uh-huh.
932
01:00:02.319 --> 01:00:02.819
Ourselves.
933
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:15.020
Right. This is why, my friend, we've always had this this problem in the field of week takes 2 steps, it's 5 steps ahead of us. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well, yeah, for every 2, there is a 3. And so it's constantly
934
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.820
evolving according to why? Because it's symbiotic.
935
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:26.835
Right? I'm here. Okay. Well, I'm here then. Why? Because each and every time you move, I'm moving with you.
936
01:00:27.215 --> 01:00:27.715
Right.
937
01:00:29.455 --> 01:00:32.355
It's it's weird. I know, man. I hope this
938
01:00:32.655 --> 01:00:33.730
is making sense.
939
01:00:34.190 --> 01:00:34.690
But
940
01:00:35.390 --> 01:00:36.369
what's yeah.
941
01:00:36.829 --> 01:00:39.569
It's deep. The symbiotic relationship, though, it's it's
942
01:00:40.425 --> 01:00:42.525
it's always been there, and
943
01:00:43.065 --> 01:00:46.365
some of the researchers know this, especially within our own government.
944
01:00:46.665 --> 01:00:53.390
They're wondering why, you know, we had airships before we had spaceships. And then once we had spaceships, then we had
945
01:00:53.690 --> 01:00:56.030
u UFOs and UFOs and UAPs.
946
01:00:56.650 --> 01:01:02.025
Right? I mean, even within Alexander the Great in his diary, they're talking about flying shields.
947
01:01:02.405 --> 01:01:04.265
Yeah. Why? I think there are some,
948
01:01:04.805 --> 01:01:05.785
paintings from
949
01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:12.640
Da Vinci with with with UFOs and and stuff like that on it. So so let me
950
01:01:13.180 --> 01:01:13.680
Mhmm.
951
01:01:14.380 --> 01:01:19.175
So the thing is, like, is it something that's always been there? Probably.
952
01:01:20.835 --> 01:01:22.135
But how did,
953
01:01:22.915 --> 01:01:24.295
these people look at it?
954
01:01:24.620 --> 01:01:29.760
Right? Because you can you can say probably like, okay. Leonardo da Vinci was a great painter,
955
01:01:30.460 --> 01:01:39.350
an inventor, and stuff like that. He was a mushroom. He did some crazy stuff, and then he saw some some things in the sky. He painted it. And now we
956
01:01:40.230 --> 01:01:40.790
see at his,
957
01:01:41.510 --> 01:01:51.525
paintings, he's just like, oh, wow. What's what's that? But we know now well, we don't know nothing, but we we we invested in much as we can, though. Yeah. As much as much we can.
958
01:01:52.785 --> 01:01:56.244
But but there are several stories from the past
959
01:01:56.560 --> 01:01:57.380
before Roswell
960
01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:02.160
about flying sources and stuff. Eric von Daniken pointed out with,
961
01:02:03.040 --> 01:02:04.980
I don't know what's called in English, but,
962
01:02:06.855 --> 01:02:09.275
the book from, from Eric von Daniken,
963
01:02:10.055 --> 01:02:11.255
that he thought that,
964
01:02:12.615 --> 01:02:14.375
the paintings that he saw and the,
965
01:02:15.175 --> 01:02:18.880
inscriptions from from from stones, like, this is an alien.
966
01:02:19.579 --> 01:02:21.119
Yeah. But what what
967
01:02:21.420 --> 01:02:24.559
if they always interacted with us and we were
968
01:02:24.945 --> 01:02:27.845
on a friendly base, we knew what they were. Right.
969
01:02:28.385 --> 01:02:37.830
They brought us some, let's say, some knowledge and wisdom and stuff like that. Like, like the angels did in the Bible, you know, that there are some angels that gave us
970
01:02:39.525 --> 01:02:40.025
makeup,
971
01:02:40.325 --> 01:02:45.704
technology, and stuff, all that. Yeah. Yeah. That always bugged me too because it's like, well, okay. If they're all demons,
972
01:02:46.565 --> 01:02:47.944
right, don't wear makeup.
973
01:02:48.650 --> 01:02:49.150
Right.
974
01:02:49.450 --> 01:02:51.310
Don't don't go to war,
975
01:02:51.610 --> 01:02:53.710
but you knew how to do it. Right.
976
01:02:54.010 --> 01:02:57.230
Oh my. That always mess with me. It's like, okay.
977
01:02:58.415 --> 01:02:59.795
Yeah. You're right. And
978
01:03:00.575 --> 01:03:05.955
this this whole thing, though, it confounds me. You know, and I'm I'm getting to the point now, my friend, where
979
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:08.300
it's like, okay.
980
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:10.540
What if our scientific
981
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:11.340
method
982
01:03:12.680 --> 01:03:14.460
is also an extension?
983
01:03:15.595 --> 01:03:26.820
Right? What what if, again, that in times past this is Collins lead research where they, you know, they have a blip on the radar. They go to it. There's nothing there. Well, it had to be physical. Why? Because they show up on radar. But where's it at?
984
01:03:27.120 --> 01:03:28.580
You're passing right through it.
985
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.060
Right. It should be right here,
986
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:32.740
but there's nothing here.
987
01:03:33.105 --> 01:03:34.005
It's on the radar.
988
01:03:35.105 --> 01:03:36.085
You'll Yeah.
989
01:03:37.025 --> 01:03:40.165
It it's it's not just stretching physics. It's
990
01:03:42.040 --> 01:03:43.420
it's obliterating obliterating
991
01:03:45.080 --> 01:03:45.580
it.
992
01:03:46.200 --> 01:03:46.940
What is
993
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:47.820
nowadays
994
01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:51.885
concerned the the the the most fascinating
995
01:03:52.744 --> 01:03:53.244
research
996
01:03:53.785 --> 01:03:56.204
there is, Mon, on the topic of demonology?
997
01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:00.580
I don't know. So we have basically
998
01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:04.020
I mean, you have evangelical model with which it is Nephilim,
999
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:05.300
and,
1000
01:04:05.835 --> 01:04:07.454
you know, we have the study of giants,
1001
01:04:08.474 --> 01:04:12.335
which to me is the hardware. We don't have much study on the software.
1002
01:04:13.035 --> 01:04:14.630
And by the way, which is
1003
01:04:15.549 --> 01:04:16.049
me
1004
01:04:16.470 --> 01:04:20.329
too, Skip. But if we take because we take all this yeah. I know.
1005
01:04:21.645 --> 01:04:31.619
I'm not Yeah. I agree too, Skip. But if we take if we take all this Yeah. I know. Right? So I don't know. No. Wait a minute. Oh, no, Nathaniel. Yeah. We're looking at the. We're looking at the hybridization
1006
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.260
program. Why couldn't this be just an
1007
01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:36.580
antiquated idea of AI?
1008
01:04:37.040 --> 01:04:37.540
Or
1009
01:04:38.165 --> 01:04:40.825
consciousness. This is what I'm because I'm I'm gonna be
1010
01:04:41.285 --> 01:04:42.905
constructing a lecture on necronetics,
1011
01:04:43.445 --> 01:04:48.950
and then my second book is gonna be on necronetics, which is centered around self replication of species.
1012
01:04:49.410 --> 01:04:51.510
Mhmm. But if we're looking at
1013
01:04:51.810 --> 01:04:55.030
my current model, which it encapsulates everything,
1014
01:04:55.915 --> 01:04:57.855
I I'm coming from the perspective,
1015
01:04:58.715 --> 01:05:02.815
this is just for now, that at least some of these beings are discarnate.
1016
01:05:05.450 --> 01:05:06.670
And that's why
1017
01:05:08.090 --> 01:05:08.830
I have
1018
01:05:09.369 --> 01:05:09.869
located
1019
01:05:10.410 --> 01:05:13.630
virtually every nuance of demonology within one
1020
01:05:14.375 --> 01:05:15.515
esoteric right,
1021
01:05:16.375 --> 01:05:19.595
and that was transferring consciousness from one body to another.
1022
01:05:22.210 --> 01:05:22.710
Pregnation,
1023
01:05:23.650 --> 01:05:24.150
possession,
1024
01:05:25.330 --> 01:05:26.770
all of the above. That's this
1025
01:05:27.810 --> 01:05:40.600
you know, it's sort of placing my soul or their soul, the practitioner's soul into another fetus and then taking the fetus for its own. You wrote the letter. You you wrote the piece of paper where it wasn't in one practice. So many things came through
1026
01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:43.620
that you can't deny it that, you know
1027
01:05:44.580 --> 01:05:47.400
Yeah. It's it's like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a prescription.
1028
01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:49.715
You know what I mean? Okay. What is this?
1029
01:05:50.015 --> 01:05:51.395
What does it consist of?
1030
01:05:51.855 --> 01:05:53.075
Okay. All these ingredients.
1031
01:05:53.375 --> 01:06:10.775
Well, it's impossible. Once you combine them, what do you have? You have this. And so but and, again, that's another interconnectivity with the occult. The occult is not a bug. It's a feature. And so if we're if we're continuously looking for, you know, for science, it's okay. Scientifically, what are these? It's like, okay. Well, scientifically, what's the spirit?
1032
01:06:11.875 --> 01:06:13.735
Scientifically, why do they want alters?
1033
01:06:15.579 --> 01:06:25.454
Those questions cannot be it, so we have to have both of them. But, anyways, now what I'm looking at, okay, is okay. It's separate applications, species. But if this is if these are discarnate, then this would be a breakaway civilization.
1034
01:06:27.194 --> 01:06:32.590
If they are discarnate, then this also would be a form of AI, but it's almost inverted where the body itself
1035
01:06:33.130 --> 01:06:34.590
Mhmm. Is artificial.
1036
01:06:36.650 --> 01:06:42.974
The real thing there is consciousness. I'm just toying with it at the moment. Yeah. But but the the real
1037
01:06:44.555 --> 01:06:47.615
crazy stuff nowadays is that someone programmed
1038
01:06:48.670 --> 01:06:49.650
like an Alexa.
1039
01:06:50.830 --> 01:06:52.530
For example, the AI Alexa,
1040
01:06:53.150 --> 01:06:54.690
like a stupid little cube
1041
01:06:55.310 --> 01:06:56.210
that could
1042
01:06:57.295 --> 01:07:01.715
learn from everything that we ask. She's gonna be on the Internet.
1043
01:07:02.015 --> 01:07:06.670
She's scattered all around the place. She's collecting data. And with that data, she
1044
01:07:08.410 --> 01:07:09.950
evolves more and more. So
1045
01:07:11.825 --> 01:07:13.125
when you first
1046
01:07:13.665 --> 01:07:25.260
ask some questions to Alexa, you didn't know what what the answer was because it took quite some time, and and it was, like, briefly, like, what color do you like or what what what's the weather gonna be? You know? Stuff like that.
1047
01:07:25.720 --> 01:07:30.540
But nowadays, you can if you see AI, like chat GPT and stuff like that,
1048
01:07:30.955 --> 01:07:31.455
it's
1049
01:07:32.795 --> 01:07:34.095
so mind boggling
1050
01:07:34.555 --> 01:07:38.175
what it can do. And especially when 2 people have
1051
01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:39.859
an a telephone,
1052
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:47.619
and they both put up, like, chat GPT and the both their boss They start talking. Start to do it's gonna be good.
1053
01:07:47.945 --> 01:07:49.165
Holy shit.
1054
01:07:50.265 --> 01:07:53.225
Oh, yeah. Well, what are you into? Oh, wow. I'm into,
1055
01:07:53.865 --> 01:07:59.040
you know, the the data system blah blah blah. And it's still like, woah. This is mind boggling.
1056
01:07:59.820 --> 01:08:01.120
But because we
1057
01:08:02.140 --> 01:08:04.880
and coming back to your point, which you said Mhmm.
1058
01:08:05.255 --> 01:08:06.535
What if there are,
1059
01:08:06.855 --> 01:08:08.954
let's say entities or creatures
1060
01:08:10.135 --> 01:08:10.635
that
1061
01:08:12.214 --> 01:08:13.035
know how
1062
01:08:13.494 --> 01:08:13.994
to
1063
01:08:15.170 --> 01:08:22.550
get our energy, get our knowledge via these things that are much more advanced than we are because we think we're so superior,
1064
01:08:23.415 --> 01:08:25.515
but we're not. We're just species.
1065
01:08:26.135 --> 01:08:27.915
Right? Mhmm. I mean,
1066
01:08:30.590 --> 01:08:42.065
we don't compare each other to animals, although we are just one species of animals walking around, but we want to define ourselves as humans. Oh, we're separate from all the things. But everything
1067
01:08:42.925 --> 01:08:46.704
on this Earth, flora and fauna has a way, a purpose,
1068
01:08:47.244 --> 01:08:48.945
and a surviving mechanism.
1069
01:08:50.750 --> 01:08:52.930
A lot of things do not have emotions.
1070
01:08:53.310 --> 01:08:57.490
Although, I think, like, trees and and mushrooms and stuff like that, they have some consciousness
1071
01:08:58.335 --> 01:09:07.770
just like we have. But because we can think and we can speak, we think we're superior to them. But that makes no sense to me. Because when you think about that,
1072
01:09:08.070 --> 01:09:08.890
you cut
1073
01:09:09.270 --> 01:09:11.210
off so many branches of
1074
01:09:11.830 --> 01:09:13.210
what could be possible
1075
01:09:13.765 --> 01:09:16.425
about other creatures, about other creations
1076
01:09:16.725 --> 01:09:17.385
of nature
1077
01:09:18.645 --> 01:09:23.510
that maybe we're just like just like the light spectrum. We're just in the middle.
1078
01:09:23.989 --> 01:09:25.849
Right? And you got them,
1079
01:09:26.869 --> 01:09:27.369
several
1080
01:09:28.550 --> 01:09:29.369
plants and
1081
01:09:29.909 --> 01:09:35.915
and and animals that that come before us and some that are much more advanced, like some,
1082
01:09:36.295 --> 01:09:36.795
octopus.
1083
01:09:37.335 --> 01:09:39.515
I mean, these are fascinating creatures.
1084
01:09:40.135 --> 01:09:42.740
Oh, yeah. I think we had a conversation about that a while ago.
1085
01:09:43.120 --> 01:09:49.995
Right? Where it could just change colors and blend in with its environment. Yeah. What is that? You're looking at it. You are,
1086
01:09:50.375 --> 01:09:52.155
but you're not seeing it. Exactly.
1087
01:09:52.455 --> 01:09:55.995
Crazy. You're seeing it. It's it's it's so it's weird. You know? It's a paradox.
1088
01:09:56.375 --> 01:09:56.695
But,
1089
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:00.620
yeah. So I'll tell you what I'm doing lately, and this is
1090
01:10:01.040 --> 01:10:01.540
new
1091
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:02.460
research,
1092
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:09.155
if that's cool. Because it's kinda Yes. Please. Yes. Along the lines of what we're doing. So if we're going back into antiquity,
1093
01:10:09.855 --> 01:10:13.155
there was this self replication of species constantly.
1094
01:10:13.630 --> 01:10:17.490
And we can look at it through various lenses, definitely hybridization, all of that.
1095
01:10:17.870 --> 01:10:18.370
But
1096
01:10:19.070 --> 01:10:20.210
when you go into
1097
01:10:21.525 --> 01:10:22.105
the occult
1098
01:10:22.485 --> 01:10:22.985
practices,
1099
01:10:24.565 --> 01:10:25.844
this is coming from,
1100
01:10:26.725 --> 01:10:28.985
just various demonologies. 1 of Bernard Gordon.
1101
01:10:29.605 --> 01:10:30.344
But anyways,
1102
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.940
you had the practitioner, and she was called the Baal Obe.
1103
01:10:36.280 --> 01:10:38.780
That was the working title of a necromancer
1104
01:10:39.855 --> 01:10:40.435
in Mesopotamia,
1105
01:10:41.935 --> 01:10:42.435
baalov.
1106
01:10:43.215 --> 01:10:45.475
All of them. Pronounced ob, ob.
1107
01:10:46.415 --> 01:10:46.915
And
1108
01:10:47.730 --> 01:10:48.550
this phenomenon
1109
01:10:49.330 --> 01:10:51.830
consisted of an avatar person
1110
01:10:53.330 --> 01:10:53.830
where
1111
01:10:54.290 --> 01:10:56.790
usually it was a female. She would be given
1112
01:10:58.595 --> 01:10:59.415
a insights
1113
01:10:59.795 --> 01:11:00.295
into
1114
01:11:00.595 --> 01:11:01.415
this individual
1115
01:11:01.875 --> 01:11:08.670
that's communicating with her. So you like, okay, Rob. We'll be talking. Okay. This is so and so. I'm getting an impression. Right?
1116
01:11:09.210 --> 01:11:12.909
So I'd be talking to you. Mhmm. And so that was one definition
1117
01:11:14.344 --> 01:11:15.245
of the old.
1118
01:11:16.105 --> 01:11:17.645
That was the medium,
1119
01:11:18.344 --> 01:11:20.605
the person, the medium. Right. That's one definition.
1120
01:11:21.370 --> 01:11:22.590
The second definition
1121
01:11:23.050 --> 01:11:24.270
is the ancestor.
1122
01:11:24.969 --> 01:11:25.790
She's with
1123
01:11:26.250 --> 01:11:26.909
the ancestral
1124
01:11:27.929 --> 01:11:28.750
yes. Themselves.
1125
01:11:29.365 --> 01:11:31.865
So first, it's the the the medium
1126
01:11:32.245 --> 01:11:34.665
the ancestor is communicating to and through.
1127
01:11:35.045 --> 01:11:35.545
Uh-huh.
1128
01:11:36.165 --> 01:11:38.985
Then the second definition is the entity itself.
1129
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.380
The third definition, my friend, is the material
1130
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:45.260
image
1131
01:11:46.595 --> 01:11:47.655
of the entity.
1132
01:11:48.435 --> 01:11:48.935
Right.
1133
01:11:50.115 --> 01:11:53.095
So in one concept, you have the medium,
1134
01:11:54.060 --> 01:11:55.600
which is the instrumentation
1135
01:11:56.300 --> 01:11:56.800
Mhmm.
1136
01:11:57.260 --> 01:12:01.120
Amplifying the voice. Right. Then you have the possessing entity,
1137
01:12:01.895 --> 01:12:03.595
which is the actual entity.
1138
01:12:03.975 --> 01:12:08.075
Right. And then you have the material image of the entity's apparition.
1139
01:12:10.790 --> 01:12:11.290
Now
1140
01:12:12.310 --> 01:12:13.450
I found that.
1141
01:12:14.070 --> 01:12:19.290
I combined that with what I realized and kind of sought out with in respect to,
1142
01:12:20.070 --> 01:12:27.285
what is it? The pocket for that jog where it was it was making bodies in the its own image. Right? Mhmm. And then possessing them.
1143
01:12:27.825 --> 01:12:28.465
I am
1144
01:12:29.660 --> 01:12:31.440
What's happening with it?
1145
01:12:32.140 --> 01:12:33.020
You saw that?
1146
01:12:33.900 --> 01:12:34.720
What was that?
1147
01:12:35.180 --> 01:12:37.120
I saw our light works,
1148
01:12:38.465 --> 01:12:39.665
fireworks going after
1149
01:12:40.385 --> 01:12:44.725
you you were just, like, blended out and fireworks started when you started Oh,
1150
01:12:45.265 --> 01:12:53.900
Zoom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrate and all that weird stuff. I don't know. We're gonna see it on a video. It's like Oh, no, man. That's weird. But
1151
01:12:55.865 --> 01:12:57.165
a lot of times within demonology,
1152
01:12:58.185 --> 01:13:06.900
not even I, but we in the field, we always think okay that that that grandpa's demons are today's demons or at least that intelligence and antiquity. Oh, okay. It's doing the same thing now. It's not.
1153
01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:07.860
Mhmm.
1154
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.220
What we're looking at now is it's it's almost
1155
01:13:11.635 --> 01:13:13.335
in the creation of the avatar.
1156
01:13:14.355 --> 01:13:16.295
It's all it's creating the medium.
1157
01:13:18.570 --> 01:13:19.550
In that avatar
1158
01:13:20.170 --> 01:13:21.070
is the medium.
1159
01:13:22.330 --> 01:13:26.350
You also have the possessing spirit, which is the second definition of the old,
1160
01:13:27.135 --> 01:13:28.835
the consciousness possessing it.
1161
01:13:29.295 --> 01:13:33.235
Then you have the physical body, which is the avatar itself.
1162
01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:37.930
So in all three definitions of the OBE, we have the hybridization
1163
01:13:38.310 --> 01:13:38.810
program.
1164
01:13:39.270 --> 01:13:41.210
And so now you have the phenomenon
1165
01:13:41.510 --> 01:13:45.085
facilitating its own disability of being. I have an avatar
1166
01:13:45.864 --> 01:13:48.445
that I can possess like the medium in antiquity.
1167
01:13:51.710 --> 01:13:54.210
Does it make it sense? It's all of the above.
1168
01:13:54.510 --> 01:14:00.530
And so we're thinking and now we have a model currently where we say, okay, it's AI. That is in a sense.
1169
01:14:01.735 --> 01:14:03.434
But what we've done, we've allowed
1170
01:14:03.735 --> 01:14:10.554
we've allowed the phenomenon to indoctrinate us. Okay. Well, it's purely oh my god. It's paying all that. What if this is a form of AI?
1171
01:14:10.909 --> 01:14:13.250
Where yes. And and, again, the instrumentation
1172
01:14:13.790 --> 01:14:14.770
is the material
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01:14:15.150 --> 01:14:15.969
body itself.
1174
01:14:16.349 --> 01:14:16.849
Right.
1175
01:14:18.085 --> 01:14:22.345
And so, like, okay. If we look at a robot, what do we have? We have the material avatar,
1176
01:14:22.725 --> 01:14:24.265
the image of the consciousness
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01:14:24.725 --> 01:14:26.425
possessing it. Mhmm.
1178
01:14:27.449 --> 01:14:30.030
And so what I'm suggesting here is that
1179
01:14:30.730 --> 01:14:32.429
this the occult connection
1180
01:14:32.969 --> 01:14:33.469
evolved
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01:14:34.395 --> 01:14:39.775
into where in times past it was. I'm I'm possessing a woman or another body to communicate.
1182
01:14:40.155 --> 01:14:44.699
But in the in the creating of its own fetal tissue, in the embryonic
1183
01:14:45.320 --> 01:14:45.820
possession
1184
01:14:46.360 --> 01:14:46.860
Mhmm.
1185
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:48.699
It has its own medium.
1186
01:14:49.455 --> 01:14:51.635
It's it has its own material image,
1187
01:14:51.935 --> 01:14:54.114
and it is, in fact, that ancestor
1188
01:14:54.495 --> 01:14:55.315
you're witnessing
1189
01:14:55.855 --> 01:14:57.554
all in one body.
1190
01:14:58.510 --> 01:14:59.010
Oh.
1191
01:15:00.190 --> 01:15:13.525
And so this is why I believe that that's what they were trying to tell us, our ancestors. We need these experience. Okay. Look. Yeah. We're in the 1st century. Even before that, yeah, we're in later on age, but what they were trying to teach us today is exactly what we're witnessing in real time. Mhmm.
1192
01:15:14.080 --> 01:15:18.340
It's not it it's not iRobot. It's not Neuralink in a sense.
1193
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:26.105
It's literally whatever the species is, it seems like that a little bit, but it's literally the replication of its own existence.
1194
01:15:26.565 --> 01:15:27.065
Mhmm.
1195
01:15:27.365 --> 01:15:33.610
It all bodied up in one. Yeah. It's the ancestor that's the possessing entity. Yeah. Is it the biological avatar? Absolutely.
1196
01:15:33.990 --> 01:15:35.690
But it's also amplifying
1197
01:15:35.990 --> 01:15:38.010
that entity's ability to communicate.
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01:15:38.390 --> 01:15:44.475
Matter of fact, in antiquity, specifically within Syria, so the Saint Paul St. Clair show a while ago, is that
1199
01:15:44.935 --> 01:15:47.685
they were being visited by what were called I idols
1200
01:15:48.460 --> 01:15:51.440
or actually entities that they made idols after.
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01:15:52.460 --> 01:15:52.960
And
1202
01:15:53.340 --> 01:15:55.199
now we're getting the ancestor. Right?
1203
01:15:55.505 --> 01:16:04.405
And this is in the same corner of Syria that they're building altars. It's it's crazy stuff. But, essentially, what happened was they were being visited by a species
1204
01:16:05.890 --> 01:16:09.030
that had told these practitioners that we're your ancestors.
1205
01:16:09.810 --> 01:16:17.055
Uh-huh. And so when remember when I told you about statues? Yeah. Right? Molding the mind of the man before the man molded the image.
1206
01:16:17.515 --> 01:16:21.775
Yes. Yes. This is another case. Another case of this where they created I idols.
1207
01:16:22.210 --> 01:16:24.870
They begin to worship them. Now what do these I Idols look like?
1208
01:16:26.050 --> 01:16:26.950
Large eyes,
1209
01:16:27.810 --> 01:16:29.190
no mouths, and no ears.
1210
01:16:31.855 --> 01:16:39.635
Why it see where I'm going? It's the same this is the hybridization program of the Vont. Right. It's the ancestral worship, ancestral worship.
1211
01:16:40.560 --> 01:16:50.065
All of it's present. But, anyways, it's so anthropologists got a hold of these figurines. They're like, okay. What what are they? And so they had a conference, and they all agreed on this fact. This is incredible.
1212
01:16:50.545 --> 01:16:52.165
That the reason these individuals
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01:16:52.545 --> 01:16:58.965
made the images without noses, mouths, or eyes or ears rather is because of the way they communicated.
1214
01:17:01.340 --> 01:17:02.239
They communicated
1215
01:17:03.100 --> 01:17:04.320
by virtue of telepathy.
1216
01:17:05.420 --> 01:17:08.400
They communicated with the eye. No. Don't need them.
1217
01:17:10.344 --> 01:17:13.725
So within that pocket, not just in that pocket of the world,
1218
01:17:14.185 --> 01:17:16.284
but literally in the same time frame,
1219
01:17:17.719 --> 01:17:18.619
We have the hybridization
1220
01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:22.860
pro coming in where we have, okay, I'm self replicating through the wounds of women.
1221
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:27.875
Right? And and and if infants were they're taking are are the material image
1222
01:17:28.335 --> 01:17:30.355
of the entity possessing them.
1223
01:17:31.855 --> 01:17:36.760
Now we know why we're in talking to them even through abduction accounts. They don't speak. They communicate.
1224
01:17:37.300 --> 01:17:39.160
Even through the biological avatar.
1225
01:17:39.940 --> 01:17:44.200
Why? Where does this all come from? Does it make it sense? Hope this is.
1226
01:17:46.804 --> 01:17:50.105
I'm rattling in my brain now because I got so much information,
1227
01:17:50.485 --> 01:17:52.185
and it makes so much sense.
1228
01:17:52.930 --> 01:17:54.070
That's what they're doing. Yeah.
1229
01:17:54.610 --> 01:17:55.110
Why
1230
01:17:55.490 --> 01:17:58.630
why does it show up everywhere when you're having about
1231
01:17:59.010 --> 01:18:00.550
or reductions or whatever?
1232
01:18:01.010 --> 01:18:01.750
You know?
1233
01:18:03.185 --> 01:18:05.045
And, of course, there are some programming.
1234
01:18:05.505 --> 01:18:06.005
Right?
1235
01:18:06.545 --> 01:18:07.525
If you Right.
1236
01:18:09.300 --> 01:18:13.560
There is some program, but I think also there are other species that
1237
01:18:13.940 --> 01:18:14.760
have been
1238
01:18:15.380 --> 01:18:17.720
discovered already or they showed themselves,
1239
01:18:18.595 --> 01:18:21.335
but they wanna be rest in they wanna be left,
1240
01:18:21.635 --> 01:18:22.135
alone.
1241
01:18:22.595 --> 01:18:30.750
They're more powerful than us. They're living on the same Earth. It it don't come from galaxies or whatever. That's well, that's my belief system. Right?
1242
01:18:34.010 --> 01:18:34.890
Because we we
1243
01:18:35.755 --> 01:18:42.014
I was I was flying to the to America the other day. I was I was going to Los Angeles for the first time in my life to America.
1244
01:18:42.715 --> 01:18:44.735
Cool. And I flew 11 hours.
1245
01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:53.440
Probably your flight was also, like, 11 hours to to It's stop 9. About 9. Yeah. So so you you're going across
1246
01:18:53.925 --> 01:18:56.505
America and then long distances
1247
01:18:56.805 --> 01:18:57.625
of water.
1248
01:18:58.405 --> 01:18:58.905
Mhmm.
1249
01:19:01.205 --> 01:19:03.225
Everybody knows the story of Atlantis.
1250
01:19:03.910 --> 01:19:08.810
Well, you know, it it's been it was there. It it we don't don't know where it is, whatever.
1251
01:19:09.270 --> 01:19:09.770
Well,
1252
01:19:12.215 --> 01:19:13.835
why couldn't there be
1253
01:19:14.375 --> 01:19:14.875
species
1254
01:19:15.495 --> 01:19:16.395
that survive
1255
01:19:17.014 --> 01:19:17.915
within water
1256
01:19:18.550 --> 01:19:24.250
and have, like, vast cities on the water, and they can breathe there. Or maybe there is like a,
1257
01:19:24.790 --> 01:19:26.250
like, if you have a
1258
01:19:27.145 --> 01:19:31.724
a mug and you put it upside down and you put it into the water, you have air
1259
01:19:32.344 --> 01:19:35.085
under it, and you can dive into it.
1260
01:19:35.580 --> 01:19:44.240
Right? So there are so many possibilities about things that we just don't know. And when you see the flight routes are all the same
1261
01:19:44.845 --> 01:19:48.865
and the shipping routes also. So everything that's gonna be,
1262
01:19:49.325 --> 01:19:51.985
let's say, 5 miles from that route,
1263
01:19:52.660 --> 01:19:53.320
We don't
1264
01:19:53.620 --> 01:19:54.920
know. Right.
1265
01:19:55.300 --> 01:19:57.160
I mean, it makes no sense for,
1266
01:19:57.699 --> 01:20:03.994
for Google to to to hire a a plane and to make pictures out of that, and probably they don't want to.
1267
01:20:05.335 --> 01:20:09.740
And if they find something that I mean, there are
1268
01:20:10.120 --> 01:20:11.640
very talented people with,
1269
01:20:12.120 --> 01:20:22.125
Photoshop and stuff like that. Just like, okay. Don't point it out. No. Antarctica is also white, completely white. Doesn't make any sense, but, you know, we just want to paint it white.
1270
01:20:23.145 --> 01:20:25.165
Yeah. It's crazy stuff.
1271
01:20:25.625 --> 01:20:27.085
And Yeah. You're right.
1272
01:20:27.930 --> 01:20:29.950
And it's it it it always,
1273
01:20:31.210 --> 01:20:31.710
especially
1274
01:20:32.250 --> 01:20:37.894
when you're just like me, ADHD, you you dig into a topic just, oh, I wanna know more. You know? And you're gonna
1275
01:20:39.054 --> 01:20:39.554
and,
1276
01:20:40.295 --> 01:20:41.835
Yeah. The more you know,
1277
01:20:42.375 --> 01:20:58.305
the the more the less you know, the more answers you have. But but, yeah, you're gonna touch base on on some things like, okay. The the this is this. This is that. Oh, disconnects with that what I saw the other day. Disconnect from that thing from the book.
1278
01:20:58.685 --> 01:20:59.185
Whatever.
1279
01:21:00.285 --> 01:21:00.785
But
1280
01:21:01.085 --> 01:21:02.465
to think that
1281
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:15.494
the thing yeah. What do we think? Right? Our thoughts are so powerful. So that would when we hopped on this podcast, the the thoughts of thinking that
1282
01:21:15.875 --> 01:21:17.335
something is their reality
1283
01:21:18.114 --> 01:21:19.815
or maybe some entity
1284
01:21:21.230 --> 01:21:27.890
wants to show himself with his belief system like he's gonna manifest that throughout his way of manifestation.
1285
01:21:28.885 --> 01:21:31.465
Correct. Correct. Correct. Could show up.
1286
01:21:32.565 --> 01:21:33.785
Yes. And it's limitless.
1287
01:21:34.325 --> 01:21:35.305
It's limitless.
1288
01:21:37.469 --> 01:21:45.425
Yeah. We're not the sum of the food chain. Yeah. Especially when you see that, okay. We we discover, like, 5% of, of the oceans. Okay. 3rd.
1289
01:21:46.304 --> 01:21:49.684
How many discovered did did we discover from the land?
1290
01:21:50.065 --> 01:21:51.204
If you look at China,
1291
01:21:51.505 --> 01:21:58.800
right, it's such a huge country, like Asia in total. On the on the coastline. There are some spaces. There are some lands. You can go there because a plane, you can flow over flew flow
1292
01:22:00.219 --> 01:22:00.719
fly
1293
01:22:01.179 --> 01:22:01.679
over
1294
01:22:02.139 --> 01:22:02.639
it,
1295
01:22:03.099 --> 01:22:04.000
but if
1296
01:22:05.245 --> 01:22:07.165
you can flow over flew flow
1297
01:22:07.485 --> 01:22:13.760
fly over it. But if you're gonna be dropped there, you're gonna be you know, that that's it. We're gonna
1298
01:22:14.300 --> 01:22:14.880
Mhmm. Helicopter,
1299
01:22:15.260 --> 01:22:18.960
it's it's gonna take too long to get there and to get back.
1300
01:22:19.500 --> 01:22:22.355
You know, stuff like that that that we do know Undiscovered.
1301
01:22:22.815 --> 01:22:27.555
Yeah. Right. So if you we're talking about demons. We're talking about ghosts.
1302
01:22:28.175 --> 01:22:31.315
But, also, there are some, like, the dark man,
1303
01:22:34.400 --> 01:22:34.900
sasquatch.
1304
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.739
But these are entities that are real.
1305
01:22:39.225 --> 01:22:40.605
Right? They they are,
1306
01:22:41.385 --> 01:22:44.285
not like a physical form that they can show up
1307
01:22:44.665 --> 01:22:46.364
in your house just like that.
1308
01:22:48.120 --> 01:22:52.300
What's your take take on that that there are species that we we we Oh,
1309
01:22:52.920 --> 01:22:55.665
I certainly think that there are undiscovered species out there.
1310
01:22:56.285 --> 01:22:56.785
Definitely.
1311
01:22:57.485 --> 01:23:00.065
My concern again, this gets back into
1312
01:23:01.005 --> 01:23:01.505
another
1313
01:23:02.540 --> 01:23:04.480
branch of the phenomenon where
1314
01:23:06.059 --> 01:23:07.599
there's only in my mind, there's
1315
01:23:07.900 --> 01:23:13.855
3 possibilities, but mainly 2, either that these actually exist in and of themselves,
1316
01:23:14.315 --> 01:23:15.855
they are real, tangible,
1317
01:23:16.555 --> 01:23:17.455
material entities,
1318
01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:20.220
or that these are
1319
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:21.100
incarnations
1320
01:23:22.280 --> 01:23:25.100
of a control mechanism employed by the phenomenon
1321
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:27.020
to where we are.
1322
01:23:28.034 --> 01:23:31.894
You're gonna get 12 pack after this one, buddy. You're like, what? Oh, yeah.
1323
01:23:32.594 --> 01:23:38.840
Talk to where right? We and I've done this in hunting before where I step over a log and there's a snake underneath.
1324
01:23:39.620 --> 01:23:40.920
I didn't know it was there.
1325
01:23:41.700 --> 01:23:51.934
And so, you know, it's protecting his territory. Get out. And the reason I suggest that is sometimes the case is because of the case with both, Axelrod in the Skinwalker Ranch,
1326
01:23:52.680 --> 01:23:54.780
where he's from the Pentagon. He's investigating,
1327
01:23:55.080 --> 01:24:01.820
just hanging out, observing more than anything. And he gets in his car on the way home. You need to get home quicker, baby. Why? Because.
1328
01:24:03.065 --> 01:24:04.685
Right? There's a dog man
1329
01:24:05.385 --> 01:24:08.445
outside of our window staring at us and the kids.
1330
01:24:11.170 --> 01:24:15.190
That either that's an entity that's even if it was real,
1331
01:24:15.810 --> 01:24:18.870
the the sequence of events there is alarming.
1332
01:24:19.570 --> 01:24:20.050
Yeah.
1333
01:24:20.770 --> 01:24:27.255
So where the phenomenon said, okay, if you're coming into my personal space, guess what I'm going to do with yours?
1334
01:24:28.320 --> 01:24:30.580
Right. And so this
1335
01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:33.940
this again is pointing me in a in a direction
1336
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:36.080
where it's like, okay,
1337
01:24:36.975 --> 01:24:50.739
Was that just another physiological construct? Now here's what's even more important. What you know, we can go down the rabbit hole about what the definition of a physiological construct is. But more importantly, perhaps, is that when they went to investigate, it had carved its claws
1338
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:52.820
into the tree,
1339
01:24:53.585 --> 01:24:54.485
but then dematerialized
1340
01:24:54.945 --> 01:24:55.525
to nothing.
1341
01:24:57.505 --> 01:25:00.965
So people don't believe me when I say, okay. Yes. The invasion,
1342
01:25:02.380 --> 01:25:04.460
it's not just okay. Yeah. They're here and
1343
01:25:05.659 --> 01:25:07.120
no. They're inverting reality.
1344
01:25:08.540 --> 01:25:09.040
Right.
1345
01:25:09.635 --> 01:25:20.030
I, you and you got to and, especially nowadays, we have to be so careful what they're gonna put out, what's the truth. Yeah. Even when you're gonna investigate it.
1346
01:25:20.530 --> 01:25:21.030
And
1347
01:25:21.530 --> 01:25:23.630
there there's so many things going on
1348
01:25:24.570 --> 01:25:31.435
and so many timelines that cross, so many dimensions that are opened or portals or whatever you're gonna call it.
1349
01:25:32.534 --> 01:25:45.065
But also a lot of sightings like the same things that are showing up or species that we do not know that are or scared or just want to attack you because they wanna protect their family or themselves.
1350
01:25:45.445 --> 01:25:46.665
Like, we would do
1351
01:25:47.125 --> 01:25:50.344
if we would walk in the forest and some something comes up,
1352
01:25:50.725 --> 01:25:51.545
you know?
1353
01:25:53.280 --> 01:25:56.500
You're right. You're right. And so in some ways, we can kind of
1354
01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.780
understand that, like I said, that control mechanism.
1355
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:01.860
But this
1356
01:26:02.514 --> 01:26:05.014
opened my mind to a possible
1357
01:26:05.715 --> 01:26:06.855
connection here,
1358
01:26:07.875 --> 01:26:10.054
and that is that our ancestors
1359
01:26:10.699 --> 01:26:14.000
is even back then again, later in early later in these,
1360
01:26:15.100 --> 01:26:16.880
they didn't have hauntology.
1361
01:26:18.265 --> 01:26:19.965
Right? They didn't have demonology.
1362
01:26:20.985 --> 01:26:34.210
Never know you then all we didn't have, you know, there was no move on. They didn't go to a headquarters or a conference and dap it up. Hey, brother. Let's get a drink and talk shop. Mhmm. No. They just had the interface between them in whatever was seeking to become incarnate.
1363
01:26:34.750 --> 01:26:35.489
That's it.
1364
01:26:36.125 --> 01:27:06.850
Maybe the church as as when they have some questions because the church had all the answers to the question. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Well yeah. And I'm I'm speaking like in the Levant, like in Mesopotamia. Right? The but, yeah, you're right. You're right. It's it's weird. But my point here is that, yeah, there wasn't some kind of codified law. It was just I'm experiencing this. I'm gonna write down what I experienced. Okay. It is what it is. And so their idea of this intelligence was vastly different than ours. They did not see ghosts
1365
01:27:07.470 --> 01:27:09.170
as a separate phenomenon.
1366
01:27:10.015 --> 01:27:16.675
Right. They they just saw what they saw, and it was there. It was part of their reality.
1367
01:27:17.660 --> 01:27:28.375
Correct. With without saying or defining it like, oh, that was a bird. No. No. That was a squirrel that was jumping branches. Or was it was it something like,
1368
01:27:28.995 --> 01:27:32.695
maybe a mouse or or rat? You know? You you can Right.
1369
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:40.500
Just like you set with the plane and when when you see it on the camera, it's it's like a TikTok, for example, but but then Mhmm.
1370
01:27:40.855 --> 01:27:46.635
All of a sudden, it turned out like a plane. But what is the plane? What's the drone? What's the glider? What there are so many questions
1371
01:27:47.255 --> 01:27:51.989
from your own perspective that you have to answer yourself, first of all. Oh, yeah.
1372
01:27:52.370 --> 01:27:56.230
And second of all, what is gonna be the reality?
1373
01:27:56.745 --> 01:28:02.365
Because that's Oh, yeah. It like, yeah. Like you said earlier, you said it very aptly. It's yeah. I mean,
1374
01:28:03.705 --> 01:28:05.085
you pull on one string,
1375
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:06.860
yet it all unravels.
1376
01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:15.180
But my point here, man, is this kind of blew my mind because I'm like, oh my oh my god. Yeah. It diversified its intelligence in our eyes.
1377
01:28:15.705 --> 01:28:16.205
Why?
1378
01:28:16.744 --> 01:28:25.030
Because we would think, okay. Yeah. It's not a branch from the same tree. These aren't separate branches from the same tree. No. It's an entirely different forest.
1379
01:28:25.510 --> 01:28:28.809
But that's what we were taught to believe by this phenomenon.
1380
01:28:29.190 --> 01:28:30.170
But our ancestors
1381
01:28:30.710 --> 01:28:33.210
believe that if they did not obey
1382
01:28:34.805 --> 01:28:35.465
these entities,
1383
01:28:36.165 --> 01:28:41.465
that these entities would turn to malevolent ghosts and haunt them. Now what does that mean?
1384
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:44.660
That means it's a single source,
1385
01:28:45.200 --> 01:28:46.260
a singular intelligence,
1386
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:47.620
a proto
1387
01:28:48.080 --> 01:28:52.795
intelligence is the word I've been employing as of late. But my point here is is this.
1388
01:28:53.095 --> 01:28:56.795
There was no this or that. It was not a a a dichotomy. It was a duality,
1389
01:28:57.095 --> 01:28:59.870
and they believe that the ontology as
1390
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a field
1391
01:29:03.130 --> 01:29:04.590
was just another arm,
1392
01:29:05.450 --> 01:29:06.990
and it was a disciplinary
1393
01:29:07.370 --> 01:29:07.870
action
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01:29:09.495 --> 01:29:10.315
of weaponized
1395
01:29:10.695 --> 01:29:11.195
apparitions
1396
01:29:13.095 --> 01:29:20.690
employed by a phenomenon that said, listen. If you don't meet me on this hilltop and if you don't give me this sacrifice, if you don't give me a food offering,
1397
01:29:21.070 --> 01:29:27.435
instead of saying, okay. Yeah. Well, there will be no. I'm going to become this demon.
1398
01:29:28.615 --> 01:29:33.410
Right. The right? And so this is the the the the structuring
1399
01:29:33.950 --> 01:29:40.930
and social conditioning. This phenomenon put our ancestors through. This this is gonna kinda circle back. This is why when people say, okay. Well, yeah, that's this
1400
01:29:41.845 --> 01:29:43.865
is social construct. You're right. You're right.
1401
01:29:44.565 --> 01:29:46.425
That was inspired by what?
1402
01:29:47.205 --> 01:29:48.345
It was inspired.
1403
01:29:48.805 --> 01:29:51.465
This kind of interconnects too with, with
1404
01:29:51.910 --> 01:29:52.810
the dog man.
1405
01:29:53.270 --> 01:29:57.610
Right? Are the entities in the right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. They were there, but why were they there?
1406
01:29:57.910 --> 01:30:01.835
Well, our ancestors wrote in rituals about them. This is what we saw.
1407
01:30:02.695 --> 01:30:04.715
Uh-huh. And so this was a manifestation
1408
01:30:05.255 --> 01:30:06.155
of the protointelligence
1409
01:30:07.015 --> 01:30:08.980
designed to condition them
1410
01:30:09.380 --> 01:30:11.640
back into obedience and worship.
1411
01:30:12.660 --> 01:30:13.800
Not separate phenomenon,
1412
01:30:14.100 --> 01:30:15.320
not separate intelligences.
1413
01:30:16.180 --> 01:30:16.680
1.
1414
01:30:17.105 --> 01:30:17.605
Right.
1415
01:30:17.985 --> 01:30:24.325
And you see that with all myths. You know, we we touched base on that on on the on the first episode about the Aboriginals,
1416
01:30:25.470 --> 01:30:26.530
the Native Americans,
1417
01:30:27.790 --> 01:30:36.745
the native Indians that I don't know what's the real word that you have to pronounce nowadays because every single culture or everything, they they every single day,
1418
01:30:37.125 --> 01:30:41.065
they have another pronounce. But you know what I mean with the, the native Americans.
1419
01:30:41.930 --> 01:30:44.430
Correct. They all had stories that came from,
1420
01:30:45.850 --> 01:30:48.910
from ancestor to the child's to to to their
1421
01:30:50.685 --> 01:30:51.485
from from from,
1422
01:30:52.125 --> 01:30:56.465
age to age. They talked about myths and stuff like that. And that's
1423
01:30:56.845 --> 01:30:57.345
really
1424
01:30:57.725 --> 01:30:59.585
interesting for me. Like, the myths
1425
01:31:00.190 --> 01:31:09.865
that's been told, like, if it's gonna be in Norway, if it's gonna be in Africa, it doesn't matter where you are. There are still some tribes and still some cultures that are
1426
01:31:10.405 --> 01:31:11.305
telling something
1427
01:31:12.805 --> 01:31:14.025
that their ancestors
1428
01:31:15.045 --> 01:31:15.785
has been,
1429
01:31:16.380 --> 01:31:16.880
encountered.
1430
01:31:17.659 --> 01:31:18.159
Right.
1431
01:31:19.739 --> 01:31:20.460
And when we
1432
01:31:21.179 --> 01:31:26.745
I think we are living in, like, 120 years now. Like, oh, we we we have now the
1433
01:31:27.284 --> 01:31:32.585
industrial revolution, so we wanna we wanna touch base on everything so we we can make it clear scientifically
1434
01:31:32.965 --> 01:31:34.105
what it is. Right?
1435
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:37.860
Or we make things or what we don't know, we're gonna figure it out.
1436
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:45.335
But how many things can't we figure out? Even if we have all the signed programs, all the money, all the whatever,
1437
01:31:46.435 --> 01:31:47.975
some things you just can't,
1438
01:31:48.675 --> 01:31:49.895
think about. So
1439
01:31:50.450 --> 01:31:50.950
when
1440
01:31:51.570 --> 01:31:58.390
for for example, in America, when the the the white man came across the sea and brought us pain in misery, our maiden,
1441
01:32:01.955 --> 01:32:03.574
When the Indians were
1442
01:32:04.835 --> 01:32:06.135
taken off their land,
1443
01:32:06.435 --> 01:32:11.600
also the heritage of all the things that they did for centuries was there.
1444
01:32:12.220 --> 01:32:15.200
And Right. Haunted things that are there
1445
01:32:16.185 --> 01:32:20.605
can be related to the stories they still tell to their children. Absolutely.
1446
01:32:21.145 --> 01:32:21.645
Absolutely.
1447
01:32:22.185 --> 01:32:23.245
And that's another,
1448
01:32:23.785 --> 01:32:25.645
fascinating fact. Like, okay.
1449
01:32:26.350 --> 01:32:28.770
We have something like, okay. Did they did
1450
01:32:29.230 --> 01:32:31.570
they say this and that is like a phenomena?
1451
01:32:32.510 --> 01:32:34.930
But all of a sudden, it occurs to be
1452
01:32:35.565 --> 01:32:36.465
something that's
1453
01:32:36.845 --> 01:32:39.745
opening itself or or connects with us, communicates
1454
01:32:40.125 --> 01:32:40.785
with us,
1455
01:32:41.245 --> 01:32:42.145
shows itself
1456
01:32:42.910 --> 01:32:45.170
to us in several times, and
1457
01:32:46.190 --> 01:32:46.690
it's
1458
01:32:48.510 --> 01:32:50.050
Yeah. Yeah. The so, yeah,
1459
01:32:51.264 --> 01:32:53.844
they as well as, our ancestors,
1460
01:32:54.385 --> 01:32:56.165
basically, at a certain point in history,
1461
01:32:56.784 --> 01:32:59.284
there were there was no way to communicate
1462
01:33:00.170 --> 01:33:05.790
outside of what's called mythopoic thought where, yeah, these are stories, but they're vehicles of meaning.
1463
01:33:07.075 --> 01:33:09.495
Right? And so people okay. They're just myths.
1464
01:33:09.875 --> 01:33:10.455
They are.
1465
01:33:10.995 --> 01:33:13.335
But within the mythological
1466
01:33:13.795 --> 01:33:14.295
narrative,
1467
01:33:15.230 --> 01:33:18.370
these are stories of real true experiences.
1468
01:33:19.550 --> 01:33:24.395
You know? And so we have to understand put the stamp on it like, oh, it's a myth. So it
1469
01:33:24.775 --> 01:33:48.860
it no. No. No. It it's not a myth for for nothing. Right? It's not like a story. A story you can make up. Correct. A fairy tale. Yeah. It's not a fairy tale. And and I know it's kind of a fine line between those people who probably kill me on that. But the thing is here is and I've I've been told that by many people. Oh, well, you know, you're just in mythology. Okay. That's fine. But at now, within the 21st century, the scientific method
1470
01:33:49.320 --> 01:33:50.380
has documented
1471
01:33:51.400 --> 01:33:52.219
in modernity
1472
01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:56.219
what they were telling us existed. Uh-huh.
1473
01:33:56.865 --> 01:34:04.405
Guess what? I'm gonna go back in time and start, right, retracing our footsteps. And then I'd say, okay. Yeah. We know now we can prove it scientifically.
1474
01:34:05.510 --> 01:34:06.970
What were they experiencing?
1475
01:34:07.670 --> 01:34:09.130
And so I think that's
1476
01:34:09.510 --> 01:34:13.690
pretty much the cutting edge of the research now where, you know, it's not
1477
01:34:13.995 --> 01:34:15.054
scientific materialism.
1478
01:34:15.514 --> 01:34:18.495
It's it's literally a technology of consciousness.
1479
01:34:19.514 --> 01:34:22.495
Mhmm. And now we're now we're looking retrospectively
1480
01:34:22.875 --> 01:34:26.630
and saying, alright. What does history have to say about this phenomenon?
1481
01:34:27.410 --> 01:34:33.824
And, but that that's where I'm at. But more than anything else, it's like, now I'm now I'm leaning heavily into
1482
01:34:34.445 --> 01:34:36.465
researching the simulation hypothesis
1483
01:34:37.725 --> 01:34:39.185
and asking myself
1484
01:34:40.630 --> 01:34:43.850
why these beings have so much access to anything
1485
01:34:44.630 --> 01:34:45.370
and everything
1486
01:34:46.230 --> 01:34:48.090
at any time. Right.
1487
01:34:48.965 --> 01:34:50.585
Because I think that
1488
01:34:52.565 --> 01:34:54.665
if they do have that kind of access,
1489
01:34:55.660 --> 01:34:59.520
and yet what they and and if and if what they want from us
1490
01:35:00.060 --> 01:35:01.120
is to propagate
1491
01:35:01.740 --> 01:35:03.600
their gospel or their tradition
1492
01:35:04.385 --> 01:35:05.765
or their their mythos.
1493
01:35:06.545 --> 01:35:07.765
And if in fact,
1494
01:35:08.305 --> 01:35:12.645
we are taking it to full circle. Like I said before on this other our last show,
1495
01:35:13.090 --> 01:35:14.470
if our leading scientists,
1496
01:35:15.250 --> 01:35:17.510
they're not going they're not going to NASA.
1497
01:35:18.210 --> 01:35:22.345
They work for NASA, but they're going out into the desert, and they're
1498
01:35:22.725 --> 01:35:23.305
doing exactly
1499
01:35:25.205 --> 01:35:27.385
what practitioners in antiquity did.
1500
01:35:28.325 --> 01:35:31.065
That means regardless of any theories,
1501
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:32.060
hypotheses.
1502
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:34.699
Oh, yeah. Well, these are okay.
1503
01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:37.420
Where are they at right now?
1504
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:38.619
Right.
1505
01:35:39.395 --> 01:35:41.255
And, yeah, socially speaking,
1506
01:35:42.195 --> 01:35:47.415
so that's that's what I've been researching as of late. I'm really going to be introducing
1507
01:35:48.114 --> 01:35:48.614
necroNetics
1508
01:35:50.580 --> 01:35:51.720
as a field,
1509
01:35:52.500 --> 01:35:55.240
and I'm creating a website. I'm creating,
1510
01:35:56.260 --> 01:36:04.695
I'm I'm a book already. New book. Yes. That's the second one. Yeah. That's the second one. But yeah. Because honestly speaking here, man, I I
1511
01:36:05.610 --> 01:36:10.989
it's almost like I stumbled upon something I didn't know was there. Like, I I just thought I was researching incubate succubi.
1512
01:36:11.290 --> 01:36:16.925
Mhmm. Then once I started getting in, again, like we talked about just 20 seconds ago, the mythology of it all, I realized that, yes,
1513
01:36:17.865 --> 01:36:19.645
this is that's present.
1514
01:36:20.665 --> 01:36:22.845
And I was almost researching
1515
01:36:23.860 --> 01:36:24.680
2 intelligences
1516
01:36:25.460 --> 01:36:28.840
Uh-huh. Allegedly. I thought I was researching demonology.
1517
01:36:29.620 --> 01:36:33.685
And then what I realized was, okay. Yeah. There's something here that's masquerading as that,
1518
01:36:35.205 --> 01:36:36.105
but it's not.
1519
01:36:36.485 --> 01:36:40.025
And I've actually caught the phenomenon in real time doing that
1520
01:36:40.780 --> 01:36:45.200
where it will masquerade as an entire species or an entity or mythology.
1521
01:36:45.740 --> 01:36:52.455
And then once you threw away, okay, that's not factual. That's not rooted in history. Then you're face to face with whatever this is. Uh-huh.
1522
01:36:53.315 --> 01:36:56.855
And that's when you when I started noticing the the manipulation
1523
01:36:57.790 --> 01:36:59.809
that's taking place within our species.
1524
01:37:01.550 --> 01:37:10.525
Right? I mean, possession to us is pregnancy, the pregnancy of them. Well, I thought it was just oh my god. You know, it's a language preference and it no. No. No. No. No. That's transient.
1525
01:37:11.465 --> 01:37:14.570
I mean, if you look at the the the,
1526
01:37:15.130 --> 01:37:17.230
the pregnancy of Maria and Joseph,
1527
01:37:18.490 --> 01:37:21.470
she was pregnant by the holy ghost, which was
1528
01:37:22.505 --> 01:37:23.485
not natural
1529
01:37:24.425 --> 01:37:29.325
Oh, oh, the conception. Yeah. So, you know, what is Jesus? Is he
1530
01:37:30.185 --> 01:37:30.845
you know?
1531
01:37:32.650 --> 01:37:35.310
These appear to be avatars that are
1532
01:37:36.250 --> 01:37:36.750
inhabited
1533
01:37:37.530 --> 01:37:38.030
within
1534
01:37:40.625 --> 01:37:41.364
a system.
1535
01:37:42.385 --> 01:37:43.345
Right. A
1536
01:37:43.745 --> 01:37:46.325
and I said this before. It's almost like an artificial habitat.
1537
01:37:47.260 --> 01:37:48.079
And before
1538
01:37:48.699 --> 01:37:52.239
one of them could exist in that habitat, they had to put on a suit
1539
01:37:52.619 --> 01:37:59.055
and then show up. And so then we're a we're a species within our official habitat. We see 2 character 2 characters
1540
01:37:59.675 --> 01:38:01.295
fighting over that habitat itself,
1541
01:38:02.329 --> 01:38:04.829
wearing different suits, looking at each other.
1542
01:38:05.849 --> 01:38:10.465
This is mind blowing. This is why, again, when you talk about the Imagio Dei in the image of,
1543
01:38:11.344 --> 01:38:14.885
the first mention of that was in Egyptology when it was talking about the ritual,
1544
01:38:15.744 --> 01:38:20.940
wherein someone would die. In order to return into this dimension, they had to have an image to possess.
1545
01:38:21.480 --> 01:38:25.340
It's all this is hybridization program. This is that's what it is.
1546
01:38:25.715 --> 01:38:29.974
Yeah. Pure and simple. And so what they had was the image of the invisible.
1547
01:38:32.355 --> 01:38:34.375
Right? Again, the apparition
1548
01:38:35.460 --> 01:38:39.960
apparition within the biological avatar. The apparition possessing the medium.
1549
01:38:40.260 --> 01:38:44.360
The apparition. That's why, my friend there we go. Yeah. That's why
1550
01:38:44.905 --> 01:38:47.885
I was talking about the old. It's all encompassing.
1551
01:38:48.665 --> 01:38:51.165
It is the avatar. It is the spirit,
1552
01:38:51.865 --> 01:38:53.805
and it is the image of the invisible.
1553
01:38:54.270 --> 01:38:54.770
Right.
1554
01:38:55.270 --> 01:38:55.770
And
1555
01:38:56.270 --> 01:38:57.730
all the tar could
1556
01:38:58.190 --> 01:38:58.770
be an
1557
01:38:59.550 --> 01:39:02.530
idol. Absolutely. It's all of it. The image of the insect.
1558
01:39:03.625 --> 01:39:18.900
In the Bible, it says, don't worship an idol. Right? Absolutely. This is this is exactly what they're dealing with. And the funny thing is and the fascinating thing is I'm I'm I'm fascinating is is one of the words I have to use in this podcast because
1559
01:39:19.895 --> 01:39:21.675
this is so mind boggling.
1560
01:39:23.335 --> 01:39:23.655
When
1561
01:39:24.135 --> 01:39:26.475
and now now my a d g ADHD
1562
01:39:26.935 --> 01:39:31.310
brain kicks in. World. Because I want I want to say something like, you know,
1563
01:39:32.970 --> 01:39:38.935
shit. I lost train of thoughts, but that's okay. Maybe it pops up in in a few minutes. I don't know. Well
1564
01:39:39.715 --> 01:39:42.375
so yeah. So, I mean, this is why it it just
1565
01:39:43.155 --> 01:39:46.820
when I realized what I was looking at, I thought why
1566
01:39:47.440 --> 01:39:48.500
were they making
1567
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:50.900
babies in their own images?
1568
01:39:52.804 --> 01:40:01.545
May no I mean, you know, and then I saw the possession of pregnancy aspect, and then I realized, oh my god. They're facilitating their own disability of being they're creating their own mediums.
1569
01:40:04.850 --> 01:40:05.489
It's it's,
1570
01:40:06.050 --> 01:40:19.880
so it's incredible, man, but that's a whole another show. I have to I'll have to get my notes out and really we'll we'll dive deeper to that the next show. But yes. So essentially, that's what it was. That's why when people say, okay. This has nothing to do with religion. It's like, okay. Don't tell me that. Tell them that.
1571
01:40:20.420 --> 01:40:20.920
Right.
1572
01:40:22.260 --> 01:40:27.574
Because these are archetypes they're leaning into whether or not we want to accept them. Exactly.
1573
01:40:27.875 --> 01:40:33.974
Why is it pointed out in scripture? In in a lot of scripture, not only in the Bible, but in a lot of these things, like times
1574
01:40:34.514 --> 01:40:36.530
when it, you know, when,
1575
01:40:37.329 --> 01:40:41.030
the clay tablets and stuff like that that Yep. They pointed out, like,
1576
01:40:41.889 --> 01:40:48.905
so many things that we are still mind boggling out today and trying to figure it out. And we're living in the age of,
1577
01:40:49.765 --> 01:40:54.320
of the Internet and and some some knowledge that everyone can can gain.
1578
01:40:54.700 --> 01:40:57.885
So the the other aspect is just like you said, like,
1579
01:40:58.284 --> 01:41:15.010
152 100 years ago, our ancestors didn't have a technique. And what happened is what they saw and well, they they put it in their own in their own jack or or on The only way they could. Right. But but now we have so much hunger to know
1580
01:41:16.535 --> 01:41:16.935
that,
1581
01:41:17.575 --> 01:41:23.700
a lot of things happened for the last couple of 50 years since the Internet is around, you know, that the people find stuff.
1582
01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:26.020
Even if it's gonna be, something,
1583
01:41:26.500 --> 01:41:27.720
from the government that
1584
01:41:28.260 --> 01:41:38.945
was been trying to hide for for for the people, but some hacker is just like, oh, hey. Look at this document and stuff like that. So you see that the agendas have been open folded,
1585
01:41:39.565 --> 01:41:42.305
but still there are so many questions about
1586
01:41:42.720 --> 01:41:43.460
who are
1587
01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.980
we? Who are these things, these entities that we encounter?
1588
01:41:47.440 --> 01:42:03.900
What is our reality? What what dimension do we have here? Some say we were living in a 2 dimensional, 3rd dimension going to the 5th. What does that mean? Is it for every single being the same, or is it some beings? Why is it that some people can paranormal things
1589
01:42:04.280 --> 01:42:08.699
encounters and some don't? You know, there's so many questions popping up.
1590
01:42:09.344 --> 01:42:13.764
Is it like if you level up on yourself, on your chakras, or whatever
1591
01:42:14.224 --> 01:42:18.300
that you could open up for these things that you're gonna experience experience
1592
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:21.020
these things. Like we touched on base before,
1593
01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:24.380
if you do, like, LSD, like psychedelics,
1594
01:42:25.435 --> 01:42:38.219
you see things differently than they are in your reality, whatever that reality is. Right? Because Right. What I'm staring at right now, I see that I concern myself that this my reality.
1595
01:42:39.400 --> 01:42:43.985
But is it? Oh, this is incredible. Yeah. Do so so now we're getting into
1596
01:42:46.765 --> 01:42:54.030
consciousness itself. Maybe be and then I don't know. People are gonna kill me for this business. Almost to creation. Right? I mean, if we look at the software and hardware relationship,
1597
01:42:55.370 --> 01:42:57.310
specifically within AI, you know,
1598
01:42:58.489 --> 01:43:00.190
AI can only ask questions
1599
01:43:01.645 --> 01:43:03.425
that it's aware to ask.
1600
01:43:04.285 --> 01:43:04.785
Right.
1601
01:43:05.645 --> 01:43:07.985
Aware enough, I should say, to ask.
1602
01:43:08.380 --> 01:43:12.240
And so within the question is built baked in the programming.
1603
01:43:14.860 --> 01:43:19.385
Yeah. And so this is the thing that Richard Dawkins is asking now.
1604
01:43:19.925 --> 01:43:21.224
You know, he's he's a
1605
01:43:21.605 --> 01:43:26.320
famous atheist. And in one debate, he's like, he he he admits he said that
1606
01:43:26.940 --> 01:43:31.920
while he doesn't believe there is a creator, he believes that it is designed
1607
01:43:32.220 --> 01:43:35.505
or something like that designed within us to ask
1608
01:43:35.885 --> 01:43:37.825
and believe in the creator.
1609
01:43:38.845 --> 01:43:39.325
So this
1610
01:43:40.200 --> 01:43:42.280
right now, we're dealing with the question of,
1611
01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:47.820
is it possible that this was the whole purpose of the phenomenon itself is to make us question reality?
1612
01:43:50.255 --> 01:43:53.075
That the reason we're having this question now.
1613
01:43:53.855 --> 01:43:57.235
Right? And Neo with the black cat. Why?
1614
01:43:59.739 --> 01:44:03.120
In in that the right. The creation of the habitat
1615
01:44:03.980 --> 01:44:04.800
is facilitating,
1616
01:44:05.100 --> 01:44:07.199
and then it's possible something else
1617
01:44:07.965 --> 01:44:10.385
broke into it and wanted us to realize,
1618
01:44:11.085 --> 01:44:11.585
hey.
1619
01:44:12.125 --> 01:44:13.744
Everything is not as it seems.
1620
01:44:14.204 --> 01:44:21.500
I don't know. I'm I'm I'm just throwing that out there. Yeah. Yeah. We're just rambling our minds. But But the same thing goes with if you look at okay. Someone
1621
01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:25.100
programmed AI so it can
1622
01:44:25.875 --> 01:44:31.014
answer your questions with deep diving into the Internet. Right? But if you see, like,
1623
01:44:31.394 --> 01:44:32.135
a a baby,
1624
01:44:33.020 --> 01:44:35.920
is gonna be little steps feeding into
1625
01:44:36.860 --> 01:44:37.920
its consciousness
1626
01:44:39.020 --> 01:44:46.704
to develop the things that she Here we go. Whatever develops in her life so she can answer the questions or she can,
1627
01:44:48.605 --> 01:44:51.105
answer question or question some answers. Right?
1628
01:44:51.540 --> 01:44:52.040
Yes.
1629
01:44:52.420 --> 01:44:59.000
With language, with with whatever. If you see how we have been build up from a baby that can do nothing
1630
01:44:59.860 --> 01:45:00.360
to,
1631
01:45:00.785 --> 01:45:04.885
like, grown ups. We can take care of our own food. We can survive.
1632
01:45:05.345 --> 01:45:06.245
We can communicate
1633
01:45:06.705 --> 01:45:07.605
several languages.
1634
01:45:08.465 --> 01:45:10.325
All this stuff that that's,
1635
01:45:10.740 --> 01:45:18.040
you know, we think that AIs are it's just like the beginning of AI. Yeah. But we were in the beginning in the cradle of,
1636
01:45:19.220 --> 01:45:19.720
also.
1637
01:45:20.205 --> 01:45:25.265
So we go. Yes. Yes. How am I forming these words? Because of the language. How do I know the language?
1638
01:45:26.125 --> 01:45:29.585
Because I had the ability to learn. Well, how did I know to learn?
1639
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:34.020
Yeah. Right? So so there are things, right, that are built into the,
1640
01:45:35.360 --> 01:45:37.620
I should say, the evolution of our species.
1641
01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:39.905
But and I'm not saying that within
1642
01:45:40.784 --> 01:45:47.764
the so that that that the certain context that most people place it in, you know, Darwinism. But what I'm suggesting here is that
1643
01:45:48.670 --> 01:45:49.970
this this is not reality
1644
01:45:50.590 --> 01:45:52.850
and that whatever we're dealing with
1645
01:45:53.790 --> 01:45:55.570
has seemingly invaded it.
1646
01:45:56.445 --> 01:45:56.945
And
1647
01:45:57.804 --> 01:45:59.585
in order to manifest
1648
01:46:00.284 --> 01:46:01.025
to us,
1649
01:46:01.565 --> 01:46:03.905
it had to invade reality first.
1650
01:46:05.940 --> 01:46:06.440
Right.
1651
01:46:07.460 --> 01:46:12.120
Think about that. These are these are emanations and incarnations of something that had invaded
1652
01:46:13.065 --> 01:46:14.605
just the the very fabric
1653
01:46:14.985 --> 01:46:16.125
of what we know.
1654
01:46:16.825 --> 01:46:20.365
Everything that yeah. I mean, from a a biological
1655
01:46:21.620 --> 01:46:22.120
organic
1656
01:46:22.660 --> 01:46:23.160
standpoint
1657
01:46:23.700 --> 01:46:25.080
down to the atom
1658
01:46:26.260 --> 01:46:26.760
invasion
1659
01:46:28.565 --> 01:46:29.785
and then anatomically
1660
01:46:30.165 --> 01:46:31.785
building itself up
1661
01:46:32.725 --> 01:46:35.065
and then interfacing with you and I.
1662
01:46:37.389 --> 01:46:42.210
This is, again, this is that's why I asked the blade, man. I'm just like, alright.
1663
01:46:44.935 --> 01:46:47.755
You know, will I be doing this in 10 years? I don't know.
1664
01:46:48.935 --> 01:46:51.835
Because our government knows this. They know
1665
01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:55.780
in Will it sorry to interrupt you. Okay.
1666
01:46:56.400 --> 01:46:57.860
Does it depend on
1667
01:46:59.040 --> 01:47:02.260
the answers you get to the questions that you have about these topics?
1668
01:47:03.184 --> 01:47:04.724
Or is it about,
1669
01:47:06.465 --> 01:47:08.565
the stuff that you witnessed that
1670
01:47:10.639 --> 01:47:16.420
the the the vast majority of things that you come across with that can drive someone mad?
1671
01:47:17.445 --> 01:47:18.505
A little bit of both.
1672
01:47:19.125 --> 01:47:19.865
You know,
1673
01:47:21.125 --> 01:47:26.665
one of my earliest mentors told me a story about how he was invest investigating a haunting,
1674
01:47:27.670 --> 01:47:31.610
and, they were taking photographs. And this is back when it was just,
1675
01:47:32.790 --> 01:47:33.290
Polaroids.
1676
01:47:35.275 --> 01:47:37.055
And in real time. Click.
1677
01:47:37.995 --> 01:47:38.495
Alright.
1678
01:47:38.875 --> 01:47:40.335
There we go. Right.
1679
01:47:41.355 --> 01:47:41.835
And,
1680
01:47:44.210 --> 01:47:48.309
he asked a question. No. That's what it was. It was writing on the pictures.
1681
01:47:49.170 --> 01:47:51.269
And one picture said, ask me a question.
1682
01:47:52.995 --> 01:47:53.495
And
1683
01:47:54.915 --> 01:47:56.135
they said, okay.
1684
01:47:58.115 --> 01:48:01.015
Do you know do you know English? That's what it was.
1685
01:48:01.320 --> 01:48:03.020
How much of English do you know?
1686
01:48:05.160 --> 01:48:14.125
Because, yeah, because the original asked me a question was in old English, and they had to have to buy the readers. Like, okay. They yeah. So anyways, it's okay. Do you know English? And I said, which kind?
1687
01:48:17.065 --> 01:48:17.565
Right?
1688
01:48:18.105 --> 01:48:21.090
And he said this is doctor Michael Lynch. And he said,
1689
01:48:22.670 --> 01:48:24.690
he said, do you know, like, modern English?
1690
01:48:25.310 --> 01:48:26.130
Hold on.
1691
01:48:27.875 --> 01:48:33.175
Then for 5 minutes, they're taking pictures. There's nothing on the camera. There's nothing on the pic the photo. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Finally,
1692
01:48:33.715 --> 01:48:34.215
yes.
1693
01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:38.300
And
1694
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:41.980
he asked the phenomenal question. Okay. Like,
1695
01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:44.060
what do you do?
1696
01:48:44.895 --> 01:48:46.114
I'm here for you.
1697
01:48:46.895 --> 01:48:49.954
I've never actually shared this with anybody, man. Wow.
1698
01:48:50.494 --> 01:48:53.554
Yeah. What what do you do? I'm here for you. And
1699
01:48:54.090 --> 01:48:57.070
it was explained to him that it was like a call center,
1700
01:48:58.090 --> 01:49:01.389
that there was someone outside of our reality
1701
01:49:03.305 --> 01:49:04.365
that was monitoring
1702
01:49:04.985 --> 01:49:07.565
almost like on a person by person basis,
1703
01:49:08.505 --> 01:49:09.805
monitoring us.
1704
01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:17.660
This, I mean, this gets back into some of the Collins elite research, which by the way, what is it exactly the evangelical
1705
01:49:18.040 --> 01:49:18.540
model?
1706
01:49:20.305 --> 01:49:26.005
They believe that whatever these intelligences were, they were outside of space and time and that they were in the afterlife,
1707
01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:30.100
Which is not necessarily the Nephilim either.
1708
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:38.655
Right. I mean, people don't realize that, brother. People come to ask me that. They they'll email me like, okay. It's not. It's not definitely my hypothesis at all.
1709
01:49:39.115 --> 01:49:43.215
Like, the what they were con concerned with was that, again,
1710
01:49:43.835 --> 01:49:45.135
there were puppeteers.
1711
01:49:46.220 --> 01:49:46.660
Mhmm.
1712
01:49:47.100 --> 01:49:47.840
Or orchestrating
1713
01:49:48.140 --> 01:49:50.320
events within our own lives,
1714
01:49:52.300 --> 01:49:54.960
leading us to believe in the illusion of control.
1715
01:49:56.115 --> 01:49:57.815
Some days, we would have that.
1716
01:49:58.115 --> 01:50:02.215
Right? Free will. We're gonna go here. We'll go eat breakfast. Boom.
1717
01:50:02.755 --> 01:50:04.935
And then other days, at will,
1718
01:50:05.870 --> 01:50:07.330
something would take place
1719
01:50:08.110 --> 01:50:09.250
that was designed,
1720
01:50:10.110 --> 01:50:10.610
employed
1721
01:50:10.910 --> 01:50:14.210
by those who are not outside of the room, but outside of the house.
1722
01:50:14.590 --> 01:50:15.090
Right.
1723
01:50:16.495 --> 01:50:19.074
It comes back a little bit to my, hypotherad
1724
01:50:21.775 --> 01:50:22.995
when it's not real,
1725
01:50:23.535 --> 01:50:24.435
a thought
1726
01:50:25.329 --> 01:50:27.510
that the ether is like
1727
01:50:29.170 --> 01:50:31.190
a consciousness and a database.
1728
01:50:32.050 --> 01:50:33.670
Yep. And I think there are some
1729
01:50:35.295 --> 01:50:43.955
you can choose to be good or evil. You you have the devil within you, and you have a godlike or an angellike within you. Mhmm. Right?
1730
01:50:44.929 --> 01:50:50.150
So I think when you ask the the the good question and you connect to the source
1731
01:50:51.090 --> 01:50:51.590
Yeah.
1732
01:50:52.795 --> 01:50:59.455
That makes so much sense to me. Like, okay. But what's the source? Well, the source is the ether. When you speak it out
1733
01:51:00.130 --> 01:51:00.950
where it's all vibrations,
1734
01:51:01.970 --> 01:51:02.470
frequencies.
1735
01:51:03.170 --> 01:51:05.510
But when you touch the right frequency,
1736
01:51:06.450 --> 01:51:07.110
you can
1737
01:51:07.625 --> 01:51:09.165
dig into that source
1738
01:51:09.864 --> 01:51:14.125
and get knowledge from it like a lot of people do with manifesting. Right?
1739
01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:19.060
The Oh, yeah. Intention. They they get into the meditation. They even can,
1740
01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:24.405
astral project or or out of body experience, which I have myself.
1741
01:51:25.824 --> 01:51:32.010
Well, that was because I was almost dead, but, you know, it happened. So there were layers
1742
01:51:32.469 --> 01:51:32.969
within
1743
01:51:33.590 --> 01:51:34.330
my own
1744
01:51:34.710 --> 01:51:36.409
reality and dimension
1745
01:51:37.614 --> 01:51:40.114
that I could touch based on. I was I was
1746
01:51:40.815 --> 01:51:41.455
jiggling be
1747
01:51:43.215 --> 01:51:44.035
I was jiggling
1748
01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:46.500
between them,
1749
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:48.179
and I had a choice.
1750
01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:54.179
And only my mind, because my my my body wasn't working at all, physics,
1751
01:51:54.705 --> 01:51:56.325
Only my mind and spirituality
1752
01:51:56.705 --> 01:52:02.885
could connect to that was there, and, you know, I got I got a question just like,
1753
01:52:03.790 --> 01:52:05.730
do do you wanna get back? Yes.
1754
01:52:06.430 --> 01:52:06.930
Mhmm.
1755
01:52:07.230 --> 01:52:09.250
And then I woke up
1756
01:52:09.870 --> 01:52:10.770
in an ambulance.
1757
01:52:11.950 --> 01:52:12.850
Oh, yeah.
1758
01:52:14.344 --> 01:52:17.165
Yeah. You know, you just kind of touched on something
1759
01:52:17.864 --> 01:52:18.364
here.
1760
01:52:20.590 --> 01:52:21.730
Within the ancient
1761
01:52:22.030 --> 01:52:22.530
worldview,
1762
01:52:24.270 --> 01:52:25.250
it was never
1763
01:52:25.710 --> 01:52:27.250
you know, you can't connect
1764
01:52:28.055 --> 01:52:29.035
with the beyond.
1765
01:52:30.295 --> 01:52:33.595
This goes back to the idea that reality itself was hijacked.
1766
01:52:34.695 --> 01:52:35.595
They're they're
1767
01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:36.980
they're kind
1768
01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:38.180
of evolved
1769
01:52:39.440 --> 01:52:40.820
a tradition of belief,
1770
01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:42.180
whereas,
1771
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:44.420
yes, yes, you can transcend
1772
01:52:45.805 --> 01:52:49.665
and and gain insights into another world that would influence ours.
1773
01:52:50.605 --> 01:52:52.225
But somewhere in antiquity,
1774
01:52:52.685 --> 01:52:53.745
there arrived
1775
01:52:54.045 --> 01:52:55.185
another species.
1776
01:52:56.510 --> 01:52:59.490
Oh. And that species was outlawed.
1777
01:53:00.510 --> 01:53:01.570
If you do
1778
01:53:01.870 --> 01:53:02.370
appeal
1779
01:53:02.910 --> 01:53:04.130
to the discarnate,
1780
01:53:06.244 --> 01:53:07.625
don't appeal to them.
1781
01:53:08.244 --> 01:53:08.744
Why?
1782
01:53:09.205 --> 01:53:17.330
This is this again, right, this bleeds that it's kind of, yeah, bleeds into the theory that, yes, we had reality then the invasion of it by something else that
1783
01:53:18.050 --> 01:53:19.510
this this gets back to
1784
01:53:20.635 --> 01:53:21.135
Crowley's
1785
01:53:21.515 --> 01:53:22.495
Crowley's work
1786
01:53:23.675 --> 01:53:24.175
where
1787
01:53:25.195 --> 01:53:26.735
he he was kind of bastardizing
1788
01:53:27.755 --> 01:53:30.080
a Brahmin the mage, Jewish mysticism,
1789
01:53:31.100 --> 01:53:31.600
and
1790
01:53:33.180 --> 01:53:33.680
deconstructing
1791
01:53:34.060 --> 01:53:34.880
and reconstructing
1792
01:53:35.500 --> 01:53:36.000
these
1793
01:53:36.540 --> 01:53:37.440
these incantations.
1794
01:53:39.325 --> 01:53:40.465
And in a way,
1795
01:53:41.245 --> 01:53:42.705
even if his guttural
1796
01:53:43.405 --> 01:53:43.905
invocations
1797
01:53:45.085 --> 01:53:45.905
were accurately
1798
01:53:46.605 --> 01:53:47.105
uttered,
1799
01:53:48.230 --> 01:53:49.610
the way the incantations
1800
01:53:49.990 --> 01:53:52.250
themselves were structured should have never
1801
01:53:52.630 --> 01:53:53.450
been successful.
1802
01:53:55.845 --> 01:53:57.545
This is what keeps me up at night.
1803
01:53:58.005 --> 01:53:58.505
And
1804
01:53:58.885 --> 01:53:59.925
because they were
1805
01:54:02.565 --> 01:54:03.065
Yeah.
1806
01:54:03.830 --> 01:54:04.330
Okay?
1807
01:54:04.870 --> 01:54:08.650
It's it's the equivalent of giving a child a a phone
1808
01:54:09.670 --> 01:54:12.330
and saying, here's the phone number to me.
1809
01:54:13.405 --> 01:54:13.905
Right?
1810
01:54:14.364 --> 01:54:17.105
And then beep beep beep. They mess it all up.
1811
01:54:17.725 --> 01:54:19.985
Right. Someone else answers the phone.
1812
01:54:21.380 --> 01:54:22.520
Hi. I'm Nathaniel.
1813
01:54:24.020 --> 01:54:31.755
And now you have the courting of the human condition to where whatever that is on the other end of the line wants to become incarnate.
1814
01:54:35.735 --> 01:54:37.275
It should not have worked.
1815
01:54:39.179 --> 01:54:43.360
It should not have worked, and yet something out there noticed
1816
01:54:44.380 --> 01:54:46.159
noticed the light in the distance.
1817
01:54:47.465 --> 01:54:49.885
Right. Like a receiver, antenna Yes.
1818
01:54:50.425 --> 01:54:51.405
Medium, all is
1819
01:54:52.665 --> 01:54:54.285
And a moth to the flame.
1820
01:54:56.410 --> 01:54:58.590
Here they are. What are they?
1821
01:54:59.130 --> 01:55:03.710
It's and this is what blows my mind. Yeah. Okay. Sure. You can do a, b, and c,
1822
01:55:04.105 --> 01:55:07.885
but there's something out there that answered the call.
1823
01:55:09.225 --> 01:55:11.485
And as far as I can tell,
1824
01:55:12.185 --> 01:55:13.005
it's everything.
1825
01:55:14.290 --> 01:55:16.310
Because it's everything, it's nothing.
1826
01:55:17.409 --> 01:55:19.510
Right. And nothing is everything.
1827
01:55:20.745 --> 01:55:25.165
We don't know what it is. No. That's its intention. It's built in, baked into
1828
01:55:26.505 --> 01:55:27.645
their their incarnation.
1829
01:55:28.449 --> 01:55:31.830
Man, I hope this made sense. We talked about a lot of stuff.
1830
01:55:32.290 --> 01:55:34.870
Yes. Yes. Oh oh, man.
1831
01:55:35.455 --> 01:55:40.275
Nathaniel, it was a great episode again. We we touched base on so many things.
1832
01:55:40.815 --> 01:55:42.094
But the thing is, we're,
1833
01:55:42.415 --> 01:55:47.930
I like it when we feed each other the the new things. You know? This wasn't an interview, brother. This was,
1834
01:55:48.650 --> 01:56:06.010
this is us drinking a beer over chicken wings. That was it. This this that that that's the Zoran production. That's how it should be, I think. Because otherwise Right. You know, when you when you touch base on your newest research, which which you did now a a few times A little bit. Mhmm. A little bit. Exactly.
1835
01:56:06.469 --> 01:56:08.390
But when you do that, you you,
1836
01:56:08.955 --> 01:56:10.575
when you jump on another podcast,
1837
01:56:11.195 --> 01:56:12.735
they all have the same
1838
01:56:13.115 --> 01:56:14.255
Nathaniel Jones.
1839
01:56:14.555 --> 01:56:15.695
But now you,
1840
01:56:15.995 --> 01:56:18.095
you know, I hope that the listeners
1841
01:56:19.470 --> 01:56:23.970
agree with me that, oh, wow. You know? It's not only this little,
1842
01:56:25.150 --> 01:56:28.725
spectrum of what he believes or what he researched, but it goes
1843
01:56:29.925 --> 01:56:34.825
so beyond everything, and and you have to connect all the dots to come to a conclusion
1844
01:56:35.285 --> 01:56:37.145
of your own possible reality.
1845
01:56:37.445 --> 01:56:44.320
Yeah. And that's what I like. You know? That's what I like. And that's yeah. These are deep thoughts. These are
1846
01:56:45.365 --> 01:56:46.825
a lot of trouble.
1847
01:56:48.085 --> 01:56:55.225
We could talk about the weather, but you don't know. I know. It's foreign. Modeled also. You know? It is all programmed nowadays
1848
01:56:55.530 --> 01:57:03.790
also. So, you know I've heard that. I've heard that, brother. What's not? Yeah. It's it's getting stranger by the second. And I think that our government knows that,
1849
01:57:04.575 --> 01:57:08.675
you know, there are measures of control the phenomenon has over us
1850
01:57:09.135 --> 01:57:10.595
that they are
1851
01:57:11.250 --> 01:57:12.230
they're not conditional.
1852
01:57:13.409 --> 01:57:14.070
You know,
1853
01:57:14.449 --> 01:57:15.349
they're they're,
1854
01:57:16.369 --> 01:57:17.190
they just occur,
1855
01:57:17.650 --> 01:57:18.469
they happen,
1856
01:57:19.105 --> 01:57:19.605
and
1857
01:57:20.065 --> 01:57:20.885
they're nonnegotiable.
1858
01:57:22.465 --> 01:57:23.284
That is
1859
01:57:23.744 --> 01:57:26.324
would that would destroy entire world views.
1860
01:57:28.040 --> 01:57:35.820
Oh, yeah. And and I think that's what I know people pooh pooh on Luis Elizondo, but I think that's what he means when he says that it would be somber.
1861
01:57:36.855 --> 01:57:37.355
Because
1862
01:57:38.215 --> 01:57:40.315
if we are not in fact in a simulation,
1863
01:57:41.335 --> 01:57:41.835
then
1864
01:57:42.375 --> 01:57:45.035
we'll go down to a smaller degree here.
1865
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Then that would mean that there are entire
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life events
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or
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cognitive interfaces
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that are
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a a simulation in and of themselves, and we don't realize it. Right? My friend.
1871
01:58:00.275 --> 01:58:03.895
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why'd you show up last night? That wasn't me.
1872
01:58:04.580 --> 01:58:06.760
Who was that? Or even the men in black.
1873
01:58:07.300 --> 01:58:09.159
Right? Okay. I wanna I wanna
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check your, your gauges and and all that. Let me go downstairs and,
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now they disappear.
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Right.
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01:58:18.074 --> 01:58:22.395
So yeah. But anyways, brother, I I hope I made sense. I know I,
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since I have my traumatic brain injury a few years ago, my words
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aren't exactly in order, and I hate that because I'm trying to work on it. Because my brain is, like, really fast and so my mouth has to catch up in my brain,
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and sometimes it doesn't work out well.
1881
01:58:40.900 --> 01:58:44.840
Oh, Matt. It's it's the same with me when I listen back to my podcast.
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01:58:46.260 --> 01:58:54.415
I was just in the beginning of podcasting and doing it in another language because I'm Dutch. Right? Mhmm. So I try to speak English.
1883
01:58:54.795 --> 01:59:10.235
But when I listen back, just like, oh my god. Makes no sense. Dabbling over my words. But you know what it is? It is what it is. And I think that, we put it out a great message, a great stuff to think about for the people at home
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that listening to this podcast.
1885
01:59:12.695 --> 01:59:19.150
And, thank you for hopping on again. I I really appreciate it, man. I mean, we definitely gonna do a part 3.
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01:59:19.850 --> 01:59:23.310
Yeah. I would like that. It's why I can get deeper into necronetics.
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I am currently now I'm structuring new vocabulary.
1888
01:59:27.165 --> 01:59:39.929
Right. Well And, it takes some time to to, you know, that you're gonna get into that, subject. Probably, you're gonna touch on some fallen angels too. Maybe that's a good one too. You know? Fallen angels and then, necromedics.
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Why not? It's gonna be awesome, brother. I appreciate it, man. You're awesome. Thank you for working with me, buddy. Thank you. Yeah. I I appreciate you, And I'm gonna put it in the show links.
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I got a new software, so it will be all, automatically well, a little bit more better than it was before, working on a little bit more
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a little bit more better than it was before, working on a little bit more professionality.
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Thank you for hopping on, brother. Have a great time.
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And for all the listeners,
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no matter where you are on this beautiful plain planet,
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have a beautiful morning, a beautiful day, or beautiful evening.
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I've been running for all my life
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with a devil on my heels.
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02:00:44.300 --> 02:00:46.065
He wasn't always kind,
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at night,
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god show me the light.
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We see pain in the ass.
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Black