ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Hey there, my Shiny Minds!
This episode is extra special because I’m joined by my dear friend and fellow light-bringer, Nathan Ohm:
- ICF, PCC: Professional Certified Coach, International Coaching Federation
- Licensed Practitioner of Neuro-Linguistic Programming®
- Senior Director of Finance, Oracle: Leads a global team of 50+ in sales compensation planning, quota setting, and leadership development
- Internal Coaching Program Creator: Founded and leads internal coaching programs at Oracle, coaching 50+ professionals and accumulating 500+ ICF-qualifying hours
- Faculty Trainer @Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology
Nathan and I share the story of how a chance encounter in Los Angeles led to a powerful friendship—and how he brought the magic of coaching into the heart of corporate leadership at Oracle.
We talk about breaking free from self-doubt, challenging OPOs (Other People’s Opinions), and what it takes to create real, lasting change in big organizations.
Tune in to hear:
✨ How authentic connection can change your life (and your career)
✨ The truth about overcoming obstacles and building something new from scratch
✨ Why Neuro-Shine Technology™ is a game-changer for leaders and coaches everywhere -
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How I Got Here…
2011: Became a Licensed Trainer of Neuro Linguistic Programming® (trained by Dr. Richard Bandler). Earned a second Bachelor’s degree in Metaphysics from the University of Metaphysics.
2012: Became Lead Instructor of Leadership Communication Strategies at UCLA Extension.
2013: Earned a Master’s in Metaphysical Psychology from the University of Metaphysics.
2014: Became Lead Instructor and Course Author of "Managing Yourself and Others with Emotional Intelligence" at UCLAx and Received my first ICF CCE Accreditation (30 hours) for in-person training program.
2015: Achieved first “6 figures” in the US.
2016: Created Neuro-Shine Technology™ and became an official member of the Forbes Coaches Council.
2017: Named one of the 40 Under 40 Most Influential Turkish Americans.
2018: Won Global Woman Entrepreneur of the Year Award.
2019: Became an ICF Certified Coach (ACC), achieved full 60-hour ICF Accreditation as a CCE provider and launched "Be-Live in U" as the Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology™.
2021: Earned ICF MCC Credential (only 721 in the world at the time).
2022: Secured ICF Level 1 & 2 Coaching Education Accreditations.
2023: Neuro-Shine Technology™ reached 50+ countries and 500+ coaches, launched the Business Development Mastermind at the Forbes Coaches Council, featured on Kajabi’s main page and introduced 5 faculty members at the Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology™.
2024: Achieved PhD in Metaphysical Science.
2025: Received my 2nd Doctorate in Metaphysical Psychology, M. PsyD! 🥳
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here we go
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welcome back to the Shiny Minds show with Doctor Shiny
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I am super excited to have
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Nathan Ohm on the Shiny Minds show today
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welcome Nathan
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are you ready to shine come on
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it's the shiny one you got this
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thank you shiny
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I'm so excited to be here
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oh my goodness shininess
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what a shiny
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brilliant mind that I have on the show today
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I cannot wait for this episode literally
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I'm looking forward to our conversation
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for anybody who is watching or listening
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would you like to start by sharing how we met
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our story
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yes let's do it okay
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so I would love to hear it from your end
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how how
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how did we meet and how did we all like come to here
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well I think we were both living in Los Angeles in a
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well I was there from 2017 to 2020
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and we were living in the same building
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yeah and I remember having hosted a
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like kind of a neighbor get together one evening
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and almost everyone had left
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and you found out about it
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maybe you were coming back from an event
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and you showed up kind of at the tail end
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but you walked in and I like
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you have such a strong presence haha
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and I was thinking well
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she seems like a cool person to get to know and
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and I think we just started talking
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it was 2018 maybe and 2018
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2019 and 2019 and um
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it was just like this organic conversation
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and like this instant chemistry and uh yeah
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um yeah
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do you do you remember that
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I do remember
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I also remember Eduardo was with you and yes
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I stepped in you were almost done
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I'm like did I miss the party but I wanna meet you
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yeah
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we were really kind of getting ready to shut it down
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but you were there and we're like well
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let's let's keep it open for another 15 minutes
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and then we started talking
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and then immediately
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I found out that you were already a coach
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yes yes
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that's what I do
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yes and then you said ICF
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like you meet a lot of coaches
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but not that many that go the ICF path
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so then when you said ICF
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I was like wow
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she's like she's really in it
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yeah legit
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legit and then I remember having that conversation
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like I I was hooked
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my goodness look at the building that I live in
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I actually have like high frequency
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high conscious individuals here
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I'm so lucky to be meeting these people
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and then I was so excited
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and then I remember feeling connected right away
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with both yes
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and then we became such good friends after that
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yes yes
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it was it was like
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I really believe that
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we have these moments of time in our lives
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when we're just
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we're at the right place at the right time
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and that was definitely one
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of those moments
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cause we lived there for two and a half years
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you lived there in that building for what
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a year and a half two years
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and we were just we were meant to meet
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it was it was really special
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yeah it was
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it was really really special
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and for those of you who are watching listening
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tuning in this is actually a great reminder
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where are you at who are you surrounded with
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and what are you missing in your environment
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are you really connecting to people
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are you really paying
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attention to the energies around you right yes
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yes that's a very good reminder
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so then Nathan obviously
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let's just properly introduce you to our audience
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I have many rolls shiny which
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which ones do you want to uh
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all of them all of them
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the whole you the whole Nathan
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do you want me to start yeah absolutely
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I would love to hear how
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you would love to introduce yourself to the world
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what kind of hats you
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you have and what is your purpose in this lifetime
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wow okay
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why start with the you know
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my purpose I
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I kind of shift every year
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but I mean it's all aligned
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um and I have a really great one this year
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which is I'm opening new cycles to elevate
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transform and advance
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that's like so I can
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I think you and I a few times did like
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New Year's sort of resolutions together
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and planning
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so every year I kind of lock into a purpose
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so this year it's really around elevating
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transforming and advancing
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last year I was expanding my capacity to enable
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empower and enlighten which is totally connected to
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to shininess shiny minds and lightning enlightenment
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um so um
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so I think you know
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my purpose is really to be a channel of
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of Grace of love to
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to serve others to bring light into the
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into the world and I know that's yours also
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and I think that's why when we met
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we really had this cosmic connection
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yes cosmic Galactic
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ooh I love that
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and then there's like elevation and advancement
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that is that is actually your signature
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like your personal signature
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that's who you are hashtag you can't help it
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with everything that I know about you
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like from hosting events to leading your team at Oracle
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to perhaps like you wanna talk about that
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you wanna continue introducing yourself
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with also your professional role
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yes yeah
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let me tell so yes
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I wear I've worn a lot of hats in my life
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and I I think I'll still wear them throughout my life
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I I don't like to be defined as one thing I
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but I like
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I could say if people say what do you do
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I can say I I'm a coach
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I'm a professional coach um
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PCC ICF coach
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I can also say
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I'm a senior director of finance at Oracle
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who I lead a team global team of 50 people
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50+ people and uh
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we do sales compensation planning for um
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for all of the sales reps at Oracle
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we um
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plan their annual compensation plans
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and create their quotas and targets
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and issue their compensation plans
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so that's there's a whole body of work around that
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and so that's part of my leadership of a process
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and then leading a large team of people
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um so
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and then within my role at Oracle
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I've also been able to be a coach
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and create coaching programs
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so that's like a second job within my corporate job
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um so that's been amazing
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yes yes
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and and then if I like even go out from there
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I've been an actor a singer
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um I love global travel
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I you know
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so there's just like a ton of things that
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that I love and sometimes at any one point you can
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I can focus on one or two or three of them um
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but I love like you always say
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I love my life I know you love your life
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and I want to experience the most of it
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and I also want to offer in service to people to um
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to help them have better lives
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and that's why I love what I do
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I love coaching um
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why I think you and I connect on so many levels
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so so many levels indeed Nathan
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and that is like there are so many things that you
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mentioned that I adore about you for who you are
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what you bring to the world and how you show up
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and then you embody every
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single thing that you talk about
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your generosity your contribution
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your kindness your unity mindset
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your it's
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it's just so delicious to have you not only as a friend
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and now also as part of our Academy of neuroscience
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technology co creators collaborators
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yes and
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which also brings me back to that conversation
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we had in Los Angeles
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talking about coaching and where you are today
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having created the internal coaching program at Oracle
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I I
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I I am just super pumped about it
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and I want to just
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it like scream to the world with a megaphone
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like what we were able to accomplish together
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because then you also inspired others in the academy
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like Eren as you know
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who is also leading an internal
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but international coaching program at Pfizer
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so would you like to talk about
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how that actually came to realization
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how you were able to create that program at Oracle
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yes yes
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I yes
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I I'm
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and I'm so proud of it it's
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when I think of the
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like different accomplishments I've had in my life
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this is one I'm really proud of and
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and excited about um
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I think if I can I'll go back a little bit in history
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yeah um
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because I got my first coaching
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I did my first coaching training in 2003
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2004 in the like the early
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the dawn of time in a personal coaching haha
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what um
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so I got a certified
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I got a certification back then and I
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between like 2004 and 2,021 22
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I did about 200+ hours of coaching
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so it's like I had a side business
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you know one year I might have coached 20 or 30 hours
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I skipped a year then I coach
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so it was something I always believed in
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I always loved but I never quite knew how I would
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really manifest it in a bigger way
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but I always knew that it was something that
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that I would at some point
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you know it was always on my radar
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even if it was just like a small little
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dot on the radar oh yeah um
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so then
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when I met you and Learned about neuroshine technology
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and the
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the the ICF accredited training programs
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it all started to become clear to me like it
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it's difficult sometimes for corporate professionals
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to figure out how to lead a
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you know side business and do their corporate jobs
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so I had this breakthrough moment where I was like
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why couldn't I do my coaching at Oracle
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why don't I
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see if I can embed this into my existing role
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and have it be an extension of um
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of my role as a broader part of my leadership
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so we I
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we talked about that I
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I took your programs and then it was like oh it
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it all everything felt possible
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you know I was like
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I can get to my PCC I can get my 500 hours
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I can I started talking to someone in organization
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I talked to my senior leadership
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and it magically all started with a lot of intention
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you know and
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and work it all started to come together
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and in the last two and a half years
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I've coached 50 people um
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within Oracle in three different coaching programs
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wow and so I feel like I'm just getting started
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in those with those 50 people
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and the nearly 300 hours that I've coached
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um pre PCC credential with
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along with your expert um
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training programs and guidance in uh
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reaching that milestone
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yes oh my God
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this is something that I was really looking forward to
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talk about because I do remember our conversations
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and I do remember
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and then now it is actually a reality that we celebrate
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and you actually made such a huge difference
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like remember
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it was just an idea
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and that's what I want to actually share
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with the audience like
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sometimes your ideas are so big and you doubt yourself
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you were like oh
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come on can I do this
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like is it really possible
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what if it is possible and Nathan is a great example
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I'm getting goosebumps like whenever I have goosebumps
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like OK confirmation
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so this is so huge it's like win
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win win win win
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for everybody in the entire universe
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like your ecosystem everybody that you touched
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you coached those 50 people
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more goosebumps imagine what
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kind of transformations that they have experienced
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through your guidance
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through your coaching program inside Oracle
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and imagine like what else is possible
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so now before we go on
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because I like we can take this to all kinds of places
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what I would love to ask you
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so that we can also inspire everybody
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in their corporate world in their corporate jobs is
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yes
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what is the biggest obstacle you faced
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and how did you overcome it
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wow that's a great question
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I I think the biggest obstacle is often our own mind
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the limitations we place in our own minds
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so it's it's sort of the
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the limitations like there's not enough time
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who will really believe this is possible
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who you know
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and then so I think I
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I first had to get past that my own limit
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you know mind limitations right
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and then as I started to sort of go down the path of
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of creating a program the
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some of the obstacles are just
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it takes a little bit of time to develop this right
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so patience is a really critical
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value to to hold when
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when trying to do something like this
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but I always had um
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I held on to sort of the optimism that it was possible
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I talk to people like you
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who believed in me
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and believed that it could be possible
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and then um
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and then I just went step by step by step
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you know what's the next step
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that's all that's probably one of my biggest
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the ways that I challenge myself
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the way I challenge my teams or anyone
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like if if
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there's an obstacle of getting something accomplished
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just think like even if it seems like way out here
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what's the next step I can take right
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what's the next step what's the next step
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so it there was always a next step
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and I just kept taking the next step
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even when sometimes there would be a delay or a lag or
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you know but I
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I got I think the other thing that um
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is find someone within a if
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if someone else were trying to do this
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who believes in you oh
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and can help you know
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champion your idea so
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and that's not always a lot of people
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but there's often one or two people who believe in you
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and can help you sort of move that along wow
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does that answer your question
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absolutely super precious
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absolutely first
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coach yourself rewire your own mind
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and believe in it
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and then find perhaps just one person better
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if it is to
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to also believe in your internal and external belief
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that's what I am hearing from you
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yeah yes
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and then take the
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and then just know that sometimes it takes some time
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so you have to be patient with in the process
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but but as the process starts to unfold
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even if it's slower than we would like
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there's always a next step
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and then there's always a next step after that
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yeah
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and then this is something that we always talk about
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even as our faculty as you know
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we are the turtles ha ha ha
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yeah we make stuff happen
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you know yes
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we do yes
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and that was my whole like from
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from 2004 when I got my first um
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coaching certification
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to getting my PCC credential in 2025
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21 years
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it was a slow sort of slow path
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but an intentional path and I got there
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yeah exactly
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so I offer anyone who's feels like they're at
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you know walking like the turtle
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it's okay you know
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just keep taking the next step
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what a great reminder I love that
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I know slow
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but through you're just going to be super through
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absolutely
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which actually um
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what like wants me to ask you this question too
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obviously
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you were in the world of coaching way before me
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and you got your certification 21 years ago
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and I would love to ask this question to you
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if you remember your first certification program
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it's been a while ago right
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if you remember how was your first
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learning experience
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with the first certification program that you
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did years ago and how was it with my nourish
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and technology coaching certification program
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how would you compare them
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and how Nourish
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Shine technology made a difference for you
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back in that time everything was over the phone
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there was no zoom or anything
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so you can imagine
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even a remote coaching training program was
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was done on like a conference call so
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so I my coach trainer
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a beautiful woman named Joanne I
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I still uh
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really value her
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her teaching and her energy from that time um
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I didn't meet her in person until like
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a year after I completed the program
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that was the first time I saw her face because we were
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back then we were all on
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on conference calls um
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so that was just a logistical difference
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um I think there was I mean
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there were certainly a it was um
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that particular program became ICF accredited later
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but it in that in that time
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I think there was still this sort of question
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even with a lot of coaching schools
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as to whether the ICF path was valid or not
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and then when you finish the program
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it was still a little bit of a
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question Mark on how you could get there
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you know and so fast
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forward to Academy of Neuroshine Technology
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where you have all the steps laid out
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and so anyone who really wants to get credentialed
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all of that that path is very clear
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and you and your team now I'm part of that team
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yes we support people at every step along the way right
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so I think that's something that's um
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that's incredibly different
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you know now from
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from back in the the early days
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when we were all sort of figuring out where to go from
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from where the coaching program went um
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I think what's also different about um
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your program is
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you've integrated all these different sort of
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disciplines and philosophies into it
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so you've um
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you've created a a really cool system that's good for
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both you as the coach
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and then you as an individual in enriching your own um
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thinking and and life
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so it you're
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you're doing like uh
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it's like a double uh
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yeah benefit in
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in getting to really think about what's
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making you a better person
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which makes you a better coach
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and then also teaching the
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you know coaching practical coaching methods and uh
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principles
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I you know
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what I always say I needed something practical
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because I do have a very critical mind
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like if I don't have the evidence
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if I don't understand okay
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I'm learning this why
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like how am I gonna apply it
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like how is it gonna change my life
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I always like come from that kind of like critical OK
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just like shatter the whole Assumption
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and then give me the like practical thing
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if I didn't hear that I always questioned
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everything that I have Learned in my life
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and then that's why I ended up creating something
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super practical and I'm
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I'm so happy that it is actually helping
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a ton of people now around the world
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including my own mother as you know hahaha
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so I love I love
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I totally love hearing dad
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I have another question
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I know you have questions for me too
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I have a few questions for you too so
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I'll save my question and please go ahead
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share your question I
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I know what I'm going to ask you
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I can wait
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I love that you is part of your um
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neuroshine technology and
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and even beyond the neuroshine technology
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just you and your own life really embody the shiny mind
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which you've named yourself
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um shiny um
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and you talk a lot about that
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you've become so careful about what you feed your mind
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your body
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yeah tell us a little bit about that
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like what shifted in you to where you've really like I
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I saw a recent post you said you were um
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you were TV free you were
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you know other people opinions free
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you were
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oh and
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00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,500
and you're super careful about
531
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:59,000
everything you put into your mind and body and uh
532
00:24:59,166 --> 00:25:02,066
maybe you can share a little bit about yeah
533
00:25:02,066 --> 00:25:04,066
why that's so important for you
534
00:25:04,066 --> 00:25:06,366
and how it's helped you succeed
535
00:25:06,466 --> 00:25:07,800
oh absolutely
536
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,033
it's it's pleasure
537
00:25:09,033 --> 00:25:12,033
and I'm glad you're asking this question
538
00:25:12,033 --> 00:25:12,666
because it
539
00:25:12,666 --> 00:25:15,433
now goes back to the practical side of things right
540
00:25:15,433 --> 00:25:16,166
it's
541
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:21,100
the way that I rewired my mindset
542
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,966
by getting rid of OPO's
543
00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:26,966
which is a part of my nurishine technology
544
00:25:26,966 --> 00:25:28,033
as we teach
545
00:25:28,033 --> 00:25:30,633
opium stands for other people's opinions
546
00:25:30,633 --> 00:25:32,433
for those of you who are in the audience
547
00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:40,666
other people's opinions we are conditioned and raised
548
00:25:40,833 --> 00:25:42,466
sort of in an environment
549
00:25:42,466 --> 00:25:47,166
where we are taught to receive external validation
550
00:25:47,266 --> 00:25:50,866
we are taught to ask permission from others
551
00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:54,066
to make decisions for ourselves
552
00:25:54,066 --> 00:25:56,933
and that created this big huge
553
00:25:58,300 --> 00:25:59,333
enormous false identity that we all have
554
00:26:03,666 --> 00:26:05,666
and we need to shatter actually
555
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,933
and that to me was actually
556
00:26:09,366 --> 00:26:14,100
I had this spark in myself since I was a little girl
557
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:16,866
I always questioned the system
558
00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:19,466
I always questioned everything
559
00:26:20,066 --> 00:26:24,166
the first time I questioned was when I was 8 years old
560
00:26:24,166 --> 00:26:26,166
when my mom was insisting on something
561
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:27,766
and I was asking her why
562
00:26:27,766 --> 00:26:30,233
and then she was not able to break it down to me
563
00:26:30,233 --> 00:26:32,266
the reason why I was not convinced
564
00:26:32,266 --> 00:26:33,566
and therefore I was like no
565
00:26:33,566 --> 00:26:34,600
not doing that
566
00:26:34,766 --> 00:26:36,466
I remember all that
567
00:26:36,466 --> 00:26:40,033
and so that is actually the first spark of me
568
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,366
okay this is an OPO right
569
00:26:42,366 --> 00:26:44,466
like in my subconscious mind
570
00:26:44,566 --> 00:26:46,233
why do I need this external thing
571
00:26:46,233 --> 00:26:49,200
my internal compass is telling me another way
572
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,433
and like
573
00:26:50,433 --> 00:26:54,500
I kept on collecting these type of experiences
574
00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:57,066
throughout my entire life
575
00:26:57,233 --> 00:27:00,366
where I didn't know what it was
576
00:27:00,366 --> 00:27:03,666
but I had this inner knowing that was
577
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,633
stronger than anything else including
578
00:27:07,633 --> 00:27:09,600
I'm good getting goosebumps again
579
00:27:09,866 --> 00:27:13,400
including a very critical milestone in my life
580
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,766
where I was choosing my degree
581
00:27:16,766 --> 00:27:19,700
my bachelor's degree in my high school
582
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:21,166
and for those of you
583
00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:24,933
I am actually a valedictorian of my own hahaha
584
00:27:25,033 --> 00:27:27,866
high school when it comes to my own field
585
00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:33,566
and all these teachers they they were telling me oh
586
00:27:33,566 --> 00:27:34,400
you're so bright
587
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,366
so brilliant and go study science and I'm like well
588
00:27:38,366 --> 00:27:41,066
no thank you because I'm gonna study communications
589
00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:42,700
and then they're like
590
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,800
oh why are you doing that communications
591
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:49,000
and you know those social sciences are for people
592
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,266
who cannot understand the complications of the science
593
00:27:53,266 --> 00:27:54,600
you have the brilliant mind
594
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,900
you have the shiny mind
595
00:27:56,233 --> 00:27:58,666
go get that kind of an education
596
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:00,100
you're gonna be great
597
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:05,400
I know that we took a survey when I was in high school
598
00:28:05,633 --> 00:28:12,766
I know my survey result had 97 point out of 100
599
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,400
that showed me I was super convincing
600
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,033
like my persuasion score was 97 out of 100 wow
601
00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:22,300
and then
602
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,600
I knew that it was something to do with communications
603
00:28:26,266 --> 00:28:27,200
whereas my teachers were telling me no
604
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,300
you should go pursue that way I'm like no
605
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:33,933
I'm gonna go that way even dad I was like
606
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,366
why are these people not seeing me as who
607
00:28:38,366 --> 00:28:41,666
I am with all my strengths and what I am capable of
608
00:28:41,666 --> 00:28:44,800
that was another to me opo
609
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,233
external validation
610
00:28:46,233 --> 00:28:48,866
being shattered from the core of it
611
00:28:49,166 --> 00:28:51,700
and throughout my entire life
612
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,566
like one after the other my corporate career
613
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:57,300
in the advertising and marketing world
614
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,966
and I always questioning myself
615
00:28:58,966 --> 00:29:01,033
my worth because I didn't feel belong
616
00:29:01,033 --> 00:29:01,966
and they're like
617
00:29:01,966 --> 00:29:06,133
I kept on questioning myself and long story short
618
00:29:06,466 --> 00:29:12,300
the way that I created my neuroshine technology
619
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,800
especially with my shiny Mind principle was that hey
620
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:18,800
watch out for the opiates
621
00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:23,200
because it belongs to those people
622
00:29:23,233 --> 00:29:26,100
it's not necessarily your own throat
623
00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:32,000
and we are supposed to live in alignment with our own
624
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,533
throat and that is also why practically
625
00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:40,200
I don't really buy the opiates
626
00:29:40,666 --> 00:29:44,800
I don't buy the opinions of others
627
00:29:44,966 --> 00:29:46,800
which comes through social media
628
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,466
which comes through TV which comes through
629
00:29:49,666 --> 00:29:52,400
what we are supposed to be eating outside
630
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,766
or what we're supposed to be consuming
631
00:29:54,766 --> 00:29:57,333
in terms of our conversations even
632
00:29:57,533 --> 00:29:59,800
so that's why I'm super
633
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:04,866
practically careful about what I consume in my system
634
00:30:04,866 --> 00:30:07,233
not only the food
635
00:30:07,233 --> 00:30:10,400
but also the energy everything is energy right
636
00:30:10,433 --> 00:30:11,733
in terms of conversations and information
637
00:30:14,166 --> 00:30:14,500
and obviously food and and and energy
638
00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:20,566
all that is energy at the end
639
00:30:20,566 --> 00:30:24,300
all is frequency and it all starts within
640
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,133
and it requires solid inner knowing
641
00:30:28,033 --> 00:30:29,466
and that is what I based my neuroshine technology on
642
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,433
the the foundational information is within you
643
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,400
like the the technology for truth is within you
644
00:30:42,433 --> 00:30:44,666
that's why yeah you just combined your
645
00:30:44,666 --> 00:30:48,366
whose truth principle and the shiny mind principle
646
00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:51,600
principles together um
647
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,100
and it sounds like you you early on
648
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,100
you had a sort of
649
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,000
fundamental reckoning within yourself
650
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,566
about living to your own truth
651
00:31:00,566 --> 00:31:03,133
and through other people's opinions
652
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,866
and then over time you've just continued to evolve in
653
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:12,066
the practices of what your truth is yeah
654
00:31:12,066 --> 00:31:15,166
at in on so many different levels yeah
655
00:31:15,166 --> 00:31:17,566
um which is so wonderful when I
656
00:31:17,566 --> 00:31:18,766
you know reach out to you
657
00:31:18,766 --> 00:31:20,900
whether we're working on you know
658
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,366
neuroshine technology
659
00:31:22,366 --> 00:31:24,933
or if we're just talking as friends
660
00:31:25,166 --> 00:31:28,066
I know I can always come to you with
661
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400
an inspirational thought or idea
662
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,166
or ask you a question and we
663
00:31:34,166 --> 00:31:37,233
we go deep and I'm never just gonna talk
664
00:31:37,233 --> 00:31:40,733
have a shallow conversation with you about the news or
665
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,400
you know
666
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,166
or just uh
667
00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:50,733
BS ha ha ha yeah that's the thing I
668
00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:53,766
I really wanna go so deep
669
00:31:54,066 --> 00:31:56,566
I believe this is what we need
670
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,700
even more in today's world
671
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,733
like deepening of our own inner compass
672
00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:04,700
don't you think yes yes
673
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:06,900
absolutely and you um
674
00:32:06,966 --> 00:32:09,633
and and to sort of bring it back to coaching
675
00:32:09,633 --> 00:32:12,166
I think the um
676
00:32:12,433 --> 00:32:16,200
all of the principles you bring about listening um
677
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,366
like coaching is really a
678
00:32:18,366 --> 00:32:21,466
a process of listening more than anything
679
00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:24,700
and the act of listening and the way that
680
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,900
that helps us go deep within ourselves
681
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,033
with our clients with um
682
00:32:30,033 --> 00:32:33,066
our students um so that's
683
00:32:33,066 --> 00:32:37,166
that's something that I've really benefited from
684
00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:38,266
from your work
685
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:42,100
and from just the practice of coaching in general
686
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,166
that is exactly what I was going to ask you
687
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,600
so I can go back to my question
688
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,533
if I may psychic connection yes
689
00:32:50,833 --> 00:32:53,333
you see that's how the universe works
690
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,566
so my question is because
691
00:32:55,566 --> 00:32:55,766
you know
692
00:32:55,766 --> 00:33:00,800
we have majority of our students in the corporate world
693
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,066
and we want to help them
694
00:33:03,166 --> 00:33:06,800
if they want to grow personally professionally
695
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,666
financially spiritually
696
00:33:08,666 --> 00:33:11,766
and obviously you being in the corporate world
697
00:33:11,766 --> 00:33:14,400
and leading a large international group
698
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,700
and obviously
699
00:33:16,466 --> 00:33:19,900
helping them evolve to their better selves
700
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:21,266
in the corporate world
701
00:33:21,266 --> 00:33:23,133
I was going to ask
702
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:28,866
what do you see in today's world in 2,025
703
00:33:28,866 --> 00:33:33,700
what do you see as the most important
704
00:33:34,033 --> 00:33:37,766
mindset shift that has to happen
705
00:33:37,833 --> 00:33:41,133
for people who are still in the corporate world
706
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,500
there's probably more than one answer to that question
707
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,966
but I think helping people to
708
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,333
connect with who they really are
709
00:33:51,833 --> 00:33:54,900
is a huge shift because so
710
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,566
so many times in the corporate world
711
00:33:58,666 --> 00:34:01,100
we get stuck on our title
712
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:05,700
or are just a certain set of accomplishments
713
00:34:06,166 --> 00:34:08,300
um what we do
714
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:12,633
but underlying that is who we really are
715
00:34:12,633 --> 00:34:16,500
yeah and I think that when we connect to that
716
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,200
when I say said to you earlier
717
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
like I'm here to empower and enlighten
718
00:34:22,233 --> 00:34:24,800
and enable and advance
719
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,566
and like that's part of who I really am
720
00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:28,466
like I yes
721
00:34:28,466 --> 00:34:30,766
I do a a role I
722
00:34:30,766 --> 00:34:34,400
I figure out compensation plans for people and how
723
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,000
you know like
724
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,266
and all of that's important
725
00:34:36,266 --> 00:34:39,100
it's a it's a process for yeah
726
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,700
you know working and making money and
727
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,700
you know
728
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,766
but that's just a that's just a part of who we are
729
00:34:48,766 --> 00:34:50,433
so I think when
730
00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:54,466
when people start to shift in their thinking
731
00:34:54,466 --> 00:34:57,600
and in their awareness of who they truly are
732
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,333
and who they're becoming and who they're
733
00:35:00,433 --> 00:35:03,766
what's really possible I think that's a
734
00:35:03,766 --> 00:35:08,366
a transformational shift that
735
00:35:08,966 --> 00:35:12,033
that we as coaches and light workers yeah
736
00:35:12,033 --> 00:35:14,366
can enable that I
737
00:35:14,366 --> 00:35:16,866
I I love that so much
738
00:35:16,866 --> 00:35:18,133
we we've had
739
00:35:18,233 --> 00:35:21,233
this conversation from so many different angles
740
00:35:21,233 --> 00:35:25,900
with so many other Academy of Neuroshine Technology
741
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:29,400
faculty members on the show Nathan
742
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:32,066
obviously that is huge
743
00:35:32,066 --> 00:35:35,066
it's that existential part
744
00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:40,033
in the wheel of life that we have at the
745
00:35:40,033 --> 00:35:40,300
you know
746
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:44,100
nurishine technology curriculum at the very core
747
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,233
we have that existential part like
748
00:35:46,233 --> 00:35:48,466
who are you like yes
749
00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:52,000
why why are you doing what you are doing okay
750
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,566
you're the finance director
751
00:35:53,566 --> 00:35:55,400
senior finance director at Oracle
752
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,900
what what does that mean
753
00:35:57,066 --> 00:35:58,333
haha right
754
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,366
what kind of light are you bringing to your role
755
00:36:01,766 --> 00:36:03,766
yes and why
756
00:36:03,766 --> 00:36:05,166
what are your tools for that
757
00:36:05,166 --> 00:36:07,166
so let me just also ask you
758
00:36:07,633 --> 00:36:10,066
since we're talking about tools and practical stuff
759
00:36:10,233 --> 00:36:11,266
what is your favorite
760
00:36:12,066 --> 00:36:14,666
leadership communication tool that
761
00:36:14,666 --> 00:36:19,666
you know that makes a huge difference in your everyday
762
00:36:19,666 --> 00:36:22,066
leadership role Nathan hmm
763
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,300
I think like
764
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:28,400
emotional intelligence and active listening
765
00:36:28,566 --> 00:36:31,366
are really important like at a
766
00:36:31,366 --> 00:36:33,900
at a higher level um
767
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,766
and it like just like I told you
768
00:36:36,766 --> 00:36:38,666
in the process of coaching
769
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,466
you really learn you really learn to listen
770
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,833
and so I think that being able to listen
771
00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:50,566
and then go from there
772
00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:53,100
versus just coming always with the
773
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,400
my own preset agenda that's a
774
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,133
that's a huge communication tool
775
00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:00,100
there's also a lot I mean
776
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:03,300
you have a lot of communication tools you talk about
777
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:07,700
there's there's some ones I've really started to love
778
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:09,800
just on a very practical level
779
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,600
the the sandwich model where you
780
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,333
we use you know
781
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:15,700
but and
782
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,466
and what comes before and after those
783
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,066
like that's been transformational for me and my writing
784
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,833
my business writing like when I use the word
785
00:37:24,833 --> 00:37:28,700
but just the concept of starting with the negative
786
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:30,233
and ending with the positive
787
00:37:30,233 --> 00:37:31,233
as opposed to
788
00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:34,000
we're conditioned to always end with the negative
789
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,800
so like I catch myself all the time now
790
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,600
in the last few years since learning that
791
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,666
to shift my verbal and written communication
792
00:37:45,866 --> 00:37:49,866
to end with the positive end with where do I wanna go
793
00:37:49,866 --> 00:37:51,400
not what's wrong with things
794
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,633
but where we headed what's
795
00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:58,433
what's the it doesn't mean we shy away from something
796
00:37:58,433 --> 00:38:00,266
negative that might have happened
797
00:38:00,266 --> 00:38:02,166
or something we need to fix
798
00:38:02,233 --> 00:38:05,633
but the focus is on the positive
799
00:38:05,633 --> 00:38:10,300
and that's been super helpful for me in
800
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:14,300
in my at a at a practical level yeah
801
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,500
I actually 1,000% agree with you
802
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,866
and this was something that I also worked on myself
803
00:38:20,866 --> 00:38:25,500
when I when I was practicing my own tools hahaha
804
00:38:26,233 --> 00:38:29,900
I actually needed to have that mindset shift
805
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:36,000
I would go rewrite my emails my messages text messages
806
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,833
and it's such a huge shift
807
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although it is such a minor thing to focus on
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for those of you who are wondering
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what we're talking about like
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we do have this sandwich model
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in neuroscience technology
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once once you start a positive sentence
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you don't wanna follow it with a but
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because you're ruining it
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you're deleting it because but is a negator
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you're saying I love your performance
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but it's trash like it's in the trash can now
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you don't wanna do that right
819
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and and I I
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I needed to work on it again and again and again
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and now it just like is so loud
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00:39:22,433 --> 00:39:26,266
whenever I listen to somebody when I hear their butts
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after the positive statements
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I go like that you know
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because it is so important to understand
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that language is our reprogramming tool
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00:39:42,866 --> 00:39:46,000
as human beings why do we have language
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00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,700
we are programming ourselves how are we programming it
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00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,166
like look at AI
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00:39:51,366 --> 00:39:53,666
what do we have L L m large language models
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00:39:53,666 --> 00:39:56,266
like what like what are they a language
832
00:39:57,833 --> 00:39:59,766
like break it down right
833
00:39:59,766 --> 00:40:03,866
what are they doing reprogramming how language
834
00:40:03,866 --> 00:40:06,966
so that's why it all comes back to language
835
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,733
and that's why
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00:40:08,966 --> 00:40:13,700
the language that we use is the most fundamental
837
00:40:13,866 --> 00:40:18,900
reprogramming tool for us to become our best version
838
00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:21,700
and what you just talked about
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00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,100
the sandwich model
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00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,700
also connects with my fundamental understanding of hey
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00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,200
live your life in a delicious way right
842
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,033
like you wanna end every message in a delicious way
843
00:40:33,033 --> 00:40:35,566
otherwise it it doesn't
844
00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,100
it doesn't work otherwise you
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00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:40,366
you are not going to be your most delicious self
846
00:40:40,666 --> 00:40:42,233
and that's why I invite everybody
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00:40:42,233 --> 00:40:46,333
who is in the audience to do
848
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,766
perhaps a quick language audit
849
00:40:49,366 --> 00:40:51,100
yes yes
850
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:54,100
right like what are you what are you saying to people
851
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:57,966
we wanna use our language to expand our possibilities
852
00:40:57,966 --> 00:41:00,033
as opposed to limit them and we're
853
00:41:00,033 --> 00:41:02,366
we're conditioned to
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00:41:02,666 --> 00:41:05,600
to limit our possibilities with our language
855
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,100
and our language can do exactly the opposite
856
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,400
if we put the right intention and practice behind it
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00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,066
to expand the possibilities
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00:41:15,066 --> 00:41:19,466
and to construct and create and evolve
859
00:41:19,733 --> 00:41:22,666
and that's what how we wanna use our language
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00:41:22,666 --> 00:41:24,566
and that's what I love about
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00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:25,000
you know
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00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,266
your focus on language in neuronshine technology and
863
00:41:30,266 --> 00:41:33,166
and coaching training and everything we
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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,366
we do to shift our language to what's possible
865
00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:40,366
yeah absolutely
866
00:41:40,366 --> 00:41:41,000
me too
867
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,200
because I remember this quote from Napoleon Bonaparte
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00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,033
he says
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00:41:48,033 --> 00:41:50,833
this was something that I was using in my leadership
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00:41:50,833 --> 00:41:52,033
communication strategies
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00:41:52,033 --> 00:41:54,566
class that I've been teaching at UCLA
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00:41:54,666 --> 00:41:56,566
I was actually teaching that
873
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:58,566
coming from that perspective
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00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:04,266
leadership is actually leading people
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00:42:05,433 --> 00:42:09,400
with hope like a leader is a dealer in hope
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00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,566
I guess that was the quote
877
00:42:11,633 --> 00:42:13,500
I love that one right
878
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:17,700
a dealer in hope like you gotta give people hope
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00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:19,100
yes that's
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00:42:19,433 --> 00:42:22,566
that's that like hope a brighter
881
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,500
a shinier world like possibilities right
882
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:27,466
yes
883
00:42:28,666 --> 00:42:29,400
haha
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00:42:29,566 --> 00:42:32,033
going galactic here we go yes
885
00:42:32,033 --> 00:42:34,266
here we go we go galactic
886
00:42:35,766 --> 00:42:38,000
wow we've been talking for a while Nathan
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00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,400
I believe just like dealing with the hope
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00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,166
and then giving people some beautiful
889
00:42:43,233 --> 00:42:47,200
bright possibilities to look forward to
890
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,966
as a beautiful spot to
891
00:42:48,966 --> 00:42:51,600
to leave everything like a cherry on top
892
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,233
do you agree totally yeah
893
00:42:53,233 --> 00:42:54,666
totally yes
894
00:42:54,666 --> 00:42:56,100
well then I would love to ask
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00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,066
do you have any parting thoughts and messages
896
00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:01,533
that you would love to share with our audience
897
00:43:01,533 --> 00:43:03,166
I think I would
898
00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:06,233
to relate it to some of what we've talked about
899
00:43:06,233 --> 00:43:06,866
I would say to connect with
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00:43:09,566 --> 00:43:10,866
connect with yourself
901
00:43:11,833 --> 00:43:14,266
know your truth yeah
902
00:43:14,266 --> 00:43:15,133
um
903
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,566
coaching is a
904
00:43:16,566 --> 00:43:20,800
whether as a practitioner or a recipient of coaching
905
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,400
I think it's
906
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,700
it's something that's good for all of us yes
907
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:25,500
um
908
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,166
yes so I might tell someone to hire a coach um
909
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:31,400
and
910
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:38,866
and really get to where you feel obstacles in your life
911
00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:42,233
in getting to where you wanna go
912
00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:44,900
know that you can overcome those
913
00:43:45,233 --> 00:43:49,566
and that your truth will show you the way
914
00:43:49,566 --> 00:43:53,300
and it's just kind of clearing past those
915
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:56,066
other people's opinions ops
916
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,100
and limiting beliefs and all of those kind of things
917
00:44:01,633 --> 00:44:05,466
and on the other side of that is or under it or in it
918
00:44:05,466 --> 00:44:07,366
however it makes sense for you
919
00:44:07,366 --> 00:44:08,400
is your truth
920
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,900
that will really take you to where you wanna go
921
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:19,066
and coaching is is a is a process to enable that yes
922
00:44:19,066 --> 00:44:22,766
coaching is the modality that we are all
923
00:44:22,766 --> 00:44:26,000
inviting you to experience everyone
924
00:44:26,233 --> 00:44:30,700
coaching is the modern way to authenticity
925
00:44:30,866 --> 00:44:34,700
coaching is today's tool to tap into your truth
926
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,466
especially in our world
927
00:44:39,466 --> 00:44:42,133
at the Academy of Neuro Shine Technology right
928
00:44:42,733 --> 00:44:45,533
so that's why we are actually inviting
929
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,500
anyone to join us
930
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:52,700
Nathan is one of our faculty trainers
931
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:54,366
like if you would love to learn
932
00:44:54,566 --> 00:44:58,000
from him and tap into his wisdom
933
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,633
in the corporate world for over two decades now
934
00:45:01,633 --> 00:45:03,666
and obviously in the coaching world
935
00:45:03,666 --> 00:45:07,433
over two decades now a ton of brilliance
936
00:45:07,433 --> 00:45:08,533
a ton of
937
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:14,533
goodness and shininess that you can actually take in
938
00:45:14,766 --> 00:45:16,600
and really like
939
00:45:16,833 --> 00:45:19,800
have it in your own heart and shared with the world
940
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,800
like that is what we are inviting you
941
00:45:23,833 --> 00:45:28,900
and you can always go to my website and grab that
942
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:33,100
free PDF guide if you are new to the world of coaching
943
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:34,300
if you are wondering
944
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,300
I don't know what coaching is like
945
00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:39,166
do I do I need a coach do I need to work with a coach
946
00:45:39,166 --> 00:45:41,666
or do like do I wanna become a coach and why
947
00:45:41,666 --> 00:45:45,500
if you have all these questions totally understandable
948
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,833
go grab the free PDF guide
949
00:45:47,833 --> 00:45:50,166
and that can be your step
950
00:45:50,166 --> 00:45:52,100
the first step and then after that
951
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:53,566
you can just like connect with us
952
00:45:53,566 --> 00:45:54,966
right Nathan hahaha
953
00:45:55,833 --> 00:45:56,400
I think
954
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,166
you and I are teaching a cohort together in September
955
00:46:00,166 --> 00:46:02,000
so it would be
956
00:46:02,266 --> 00:46:05,866
so fun for anyone watching to join our cohort
957
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,800
mm hmm absolutely
958
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,500
please join us
959
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:15,166
we are going to do our absolute best to have you
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00:46:15,166 --> 00:46:17,400
tap into your own truth
961
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,866
and then find out your own gifts
962
00:46:19,866 --> 00:46:21,133
your own strengths
963
00:46:21,266 --> 00:46:24,400
and your own cosmic brilliance that you carry within
964
00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:27,066
right Nathan hahaha yes
965
00:46:27,066 --> 00:46:28,933
absolutely hahaha
966
00:46:29,033 --> 00:46:33,233
that is that is what we bring to the table
967
00:46:33,233 --> 00:46:38,566
and please share this if you like this episode
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00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:41,100
share it put a like on it
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00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,300
subscribe for more episodes just like this
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00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,166
we are hashtag on a mission so that together
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00:46:48,166 --> 00:46:50,833
we can co create a brighter world together
972
00:46:50,833 --> 00:46:54,533
so thank you Nathan for thank you shiny
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00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,200
it was so delicious super delicious
974
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,966
so delicious so fun
975
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:01,733
hahaha and then thank you everybody
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00:47:01,866 --> 00:47:04,633
do your shiny minds and until next time
977
00:47:04,633 --> 00:47:06,766
keep shining your light bye bye
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00:47:08,466 --> 00:47:09,600
see go galactic
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00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,333
go galactic then you're in the right