Episode 309 - Impact Shift: How a Physicist Pivoted from Science to Global Change

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Welcome to Healthy Lifestyle with Lorianne. I am coach, Lorianne,
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America's number one take action success coach and strategists, empowering, educating,
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and inspiring and igniting people like you to take action
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with jet propulsion. We'd love to assist people to take
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those next steps and just really go after those dreams.
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So think about what you want. When was the last
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time somebody asked you that question, what do you want? Well?
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One of the things that we're going to do today
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and I'm so excited about having doctor Rawul Prasad on
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tonight today is we're going to talk about how we
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became a scientist. And you need to listen and stay
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in to stay with this episode. We're very excited to
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have him on. And really, Doc is going to talk
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about living a life of passion, person, purpose and impact.
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I need to stop speaking New York fast. He's going
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to talk about that with us today, So I stay
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tuned and stay with us. We're going to invite on
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in a minute. But I want to give you a
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little bit of his biography. It is unbelievably impressive. Doc
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was trained as an applied as physicist. He's an avid photographer, explorer,
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traveler and adventurer. He also utilizes his technical expertise to
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advise venture capitalist firms. That's very exciting. He received his
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PhD in Applied Physics from Yale University in nineteen eighty
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seven and has worked at Yale University Physics, International Co
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Science Research Laboratory, and Almeade Applied Sciences, a company he
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co founded in nineteen ninety four. He recently he was
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Senior Physicist and Manager at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory,
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working on various aspects of a national ignition facility. The
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man is inspiring. He has been an active volunteer for
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his alma made, Yale University for almost three decades, serving
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as the chair of the Graduate School Alumni Associate Association
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and the chair of the Yale Alumni Association Board of Governors.
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This is an important person here based on the San
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Francisco Bay area. Doctor Pissatt is currently president of Butterflies USA,
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a nonprofit raising money for a marginalized children in New Delhi, India.
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I'm actually familiar with that organization. He's the chairperson of
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the board of AMANDLA. You'll have to fix that for me. Development,
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a nonprofit raising money for at risk youth in Cape Town,
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South Africa and an investor and advisor at MVP Ventures. Doc,
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welcome to the show. Oh my goodness, I mangled that name.
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What is the board of the development board that raises
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money for at risk youth?
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Amanda Amandla okay?
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So fighting too? So bad? It wasn't.
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You did very well?
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Oh?
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Thank you, thank you for having me.
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Laura, so glad to have you one.
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You know I I I was telling you earlier that
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I have a partner in business and she's a scientist,
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and I really love learning the science behind it. I
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get all geeky about that because when I understand why
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it works and how it works, it just makes more sense.
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And when I'm doing it, I have more tools at
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my grasp, if you will, and in my tool bell.
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But I want to back up and talk about you
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in your early life. What drove you to become a scientist? Like,
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where did that come from?
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It was actually just a very simple day one day,
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and I remember it clearly. The day Neil Armstrong set
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foot on the Moon. I was watching the moon landing.
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Like a lot of kids my age, I was eight
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years old at the time. A lot of kids my
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age were watching. I turned to my father, who was
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watching with me, and I asked him, so, what did
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Neil do to become the first man in the moon.
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And he turns to me and he says, well, son,
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he was a scientist. Of course, that's not quite accurate.
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Neil Armstrong was not a scientist. It's just pilot. But
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that lit the light and that was it. And you know,
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I've always been a very curious person, and so it
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meshed very well with my curiosity because I learned how
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to figure out how things work. When I was five
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years old, I got a bicycle for my birthday and
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I took it apart because I wanted to that was
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it going to work? And luckily my dad said, well,
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you got a bike. If you want to ride it,
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you got to put it back together again.
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Yes, fair enough. Yeah, one of my boys used to
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do that, used to take things apart but couldn't put
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them back together. And I'm like, yeah, but that's I
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love that that you said you're curious. I love curious minds.
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I'm curious. I ask a lot of questions. I get
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laughed at because I always ask questions. Matter of fact,
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my TV show has helped me understand, so I'm always
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asking questions. I love learning, and scientific minds are very
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intriguing to me because you are very curious. Yes, what
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being a scientist taught you about dealing with challenges?
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I think you know, it's one of the things which
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happens when you're when you're a scientist, when you when
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you're trained to be a scientist, the first thing you reckon.
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So you've got a problem that nobody has solved before.
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There isn't an answer that is written in a book
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somewhere that you can go read. You got to figure
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it out for yourself. That's a challenge, and it teaches.
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What science teaches you is how to break down the
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challenge into bite sized pieces and address each one of them.
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Because as a whole, a challenge may look very daunting,
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but if you break it down into the constituent elements,
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you can actually get past that challenge and it becomes
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an opportunity, an opportunity to learn, an opportunity to grow,
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and an opportunity to do something new, something outside of
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comfort zone.
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Yes, Oh my.
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Gosh, I love this so much. Yes, you know, whenever
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I talk to clients, I'm like I need to know
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your big picture, and then we reverse.
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Engineer it, yes, steps.
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To get to it, because if you look at the
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big thing, it's overwhelming. And that's why I think to
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stop pursuing their dreams. You have a big picture, you
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want it. You were like, gosh, how did how did
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he do that? How did he land on the moon,
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And you, at a very young age, reversed engineered and went, oh,
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you need to be a scientist. Okay, I'll be a scientist.
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And taking apart things. And when you took things apart,
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you had to actually logically go, okay, what pieces go
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back together? Because I'm sure when you were taking apart
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you didn't think about having to put it back together.
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Nope, not at all, not the first.
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Time into what you were taking apart.
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Absolutely, I learned that because after my father told me
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I have to put it back together again, I said, okay,
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next time I want to take something apart, I got
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to remember. It's a lot easier if you remember what
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you did. Of course, you know when I was going
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up there was no video camera. It would have been
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much easier with a video camera.
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Oh my god, with the video camera. YouTube explanation, I
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guess absolutely I got to tell you, I feel very
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empowered when I do things around the house and because
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but it's because I have a YouTube going Okay, now
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do this and now do that. I was like, Oh,
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thank god for smart people. What you're talking about? Who's
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credible thinking? Yes, you're really thinking about okay, what goes
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with what works with what? Why does it work this way?
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How does it work with this? Talk more about critical thinking,
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because I think it's something that we're so spoon fed.
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For instance, having the YouTube video, I still have a
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slight bit of critical thinking going on, but I'm just
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following steps somebody else did. I'm not looking at why
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it works and how it works and things like that.
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So talk more about critical thinking and the importance to that.
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I think it's incredibly important because with critical thinking, you're
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able to understand, you're able to actually figure out how
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things are working from first principle, So you know you
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don't have to learn things by rote. Yeah, because when
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you're learning some of it is by rote. When you
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learn the alphabet, you've got to learn it by road.
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But once you figure out how things sound, you don't
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need to know how to pronounce every single word in
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the dictionary.
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You can.
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That's part of critical thinking because you say this comes
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after this, but that sound because it's following this you've learned,
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that's not how it's going to sound. It's going to
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sound differently because it's got a modifier after it. And
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that's really critical thinking at its most elementary, basic level.
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It's just taking things that you know here and applying
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it over here. It's repertecting the same tools. That's critical thinking. Exactly, Well,
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you can take these tools over here to understand it
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well enough to be able to apply it in a
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different scenario.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. It's like my golf coach when he teaches me
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and everything. It's great, I hit amazing when he's around.
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When he is around, boom, it's good when he's not.
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I need to be able to apply what he's thinking
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and the reasons why I have to do certain things,
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or why it went to the left, what I didn't do.
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I didn't complete my follow through. That's why it went
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all the way to the left, or it went off
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to the right, because it's actually off to the right
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because I didn't follow do my following. But if he
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hadn't taught me that part, I wouldn't have been able
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to apply it by.
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Myself, exactly, so exactly. Yeah, so it's really good.
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To understand and learn. I'm like, watch learn and that's
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what a lot of teachers do, is it's like try this,
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watch it, learn it, do it. And it goes back
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to the three different ways of learning, don't you.
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Yes.
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I think some people see it, some people listen to it,
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and some people have to actually do it. And we're
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used a combination strongly of two three. We're all three
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strongly a combination amazing amazing. That one thing I noticed
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in the bio that I read, which was amazingly long
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and impressive, and thank you for all the fact that
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you do. I think giving back is an important thing.
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If you've never done it before, it is a really
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wonderful thing to do is give back. It is absolutely
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the things we should do in when you're a member
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of a community is give back into the community and
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help other people who might not be as fortunate as us.
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And that doesn't mean you have to be rich.
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It just means like giving back.
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Giving back could be writing a check, but giving back
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and more importantly, could also be showing up and helping someone,
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teaching someone some critical thinking about exactly, but you're really
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involved in giving back. What in life made you do that?
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I know it was a lifestyle in my family. That
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was just something we did, and when I grew up,
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that's something I did, and I taught my kids that's
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something they did. It's just something we do. But oddly enough,
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I was in a rotary group up in New York
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at the time, and this one woman went to do
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the food pantry and she brought her son they had
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as an adult. She had never done like that of
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giving back. So what inspired you to be such a
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giving individual?
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So, you know, she started early on in my childhood,
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I watched my grandmother's whenever a person that was hungry
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came to the door, they would be fed. It didn't
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matter who they were, it didn't matter where they came from.
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If they came and wanted to food, they would be fed.
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And it was a small little gesture. My grandfather, my
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paternal grandfather, spent his career in the accounting service in
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back in India, and when he retired, he chose to
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help found a hospital that helped provide eye care for
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people that couldn't afford it. And he was so passionately
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involved with that, so that you know, when it came
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time for him to get cataract surgery, he went to
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that institution, he said, and my father, his son, said, no,
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did you shouldn't do that because you know they're not
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the good doctors are not that good because they're doing
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this for free, and you need to get the best doctors.
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And he said, well, if is good enough for those people,
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is good enough for me. I am going there. So
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that's kind of the inspiration. And then, of course, you know,
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you get wrapped up in life and other things happen.
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You get kids, you get your career. And then it
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was my kids that actually, funnily enough, taught me about
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because in school they learn about giving back and they
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learn about community service, and they both went to parochial school,
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and as a result of which I started thinking, hey,
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this connects back to my early child. My grandfather was
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doing it. Now my kids are doing it, and that
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just made sense.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's a full circle there, you know. And
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I love that some of the schools require community service
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now in order to graduate. I love that that they're
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taught that giving back element exactly, and it gets them involved.
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I think it keeps. I think it keeps people out
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of trouble.
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I think, oh, I think so.
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I think so as adults. If you're giving back, there's
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many things that come from giving back. And one of
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the things is it keeps you out of trouble.
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Yes, And I think the other aspect what we're giving
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back involves is you actually gain from it actively. You
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actively gain from it because you're one thing. You learn
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a lot because you meet all kinds of people that
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you would never have met. So that's number one and
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number two in little ways, those people enrich your life, Oh,
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in so many different ways.
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It also reminds you how fortunate you are.
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You are exactly. That's another way. And I think that's
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very important because we tend to take what we have
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for granted. We tend to think that it's going to
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be there forever. Our lifestyle, our family, our friends, everything
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is going to be around. When you meet somebody that
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doesn't have that, you suddenly realize, oh my gosh, this
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is really amazing.
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That I have it. Yeah, Gratitude just sings in at such.
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A gratitude sings in, And I think that that makes
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you a better person. And I firmly believe that the
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more good you do, the more good happens to you,
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not necessarily by the same people, but there's a cosmic karma.
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If you will, you get back.
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It's a bit to get back. Yeah, you get back.
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I'll never forget it. One Thanksgiving, I was working with
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the I'm involved with an number of groups. I was
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working with the Lions, and we go to a local
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restaurant and we cook on Thanksgiving for and I loved
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going to do that. But I always and I'm going
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to get missy on this, I always got choked up
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when they were so grateful. Yes, and I was just like,
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oh my gosh, you know, you just you want to
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give them everything, and you want We used to load
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up their dishes like there was no tomorrow, Like take
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this home, you know, wherever you're going to go, and
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it's just it's a it's a beautiful thing. First of all,
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you get out of your head. Will remind you how
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amazingly fortunate you are, and that you know we're not
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We're always we're taught by our media, by our culture
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here in the United States, looking for more, looking for more, more,
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and not really appreciating what you have. It kind of
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underlying to toy story. It's like you had this toy
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all along, you forgot about it because you had all
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these other toys and this was your favorite toy all along.
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Just go back to basics. It was a really nice
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adult underscoring on that one. And it's the same with
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giving back. The other thing element I find in giving
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back is if you're sad or depressed or having a
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really hard time, the best way to get out of
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your head, to find the solution is serve someone else.
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Yes that place, If you serve someone else, the answers
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will come. Now you're not stuck in your brain exactly,
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You're working from your heart and then all of a
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sudden those answers just start easily pouring in. So I
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really recommend any of the listeners. If you're just having
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a rough time and you just feel in life is
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really getting hard, go out and serve someone else. Go
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out and say thank you to someone else. It could
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be as little as just opening a door for someone
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else and giving them a smile and making eye contact.
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That absolutely absolutely, And you know, I think smiling makes
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your day. You smile, the other person you walk by,
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they might smile back at you. Yeah, And it's so
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much nicer than walking by somebody with a grimace in
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your face, because that's also infectious. And the other thing
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I like to do is when I see somebody do
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something nice, I like to let them know that I
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saw that. I was at the local Alameda police station
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to get my car inspected, and I had to go
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to the reception desk and the person was dealing with
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a person who had come in to pay a fine
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to get his car out of the impound loot because
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it had been towed. He'd left it on the street.
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The lady was talking to him and she was so understanding,
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listening to his story, listening to the fact that he
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parks it every day. He normally comes out, but he
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was tied up on a phone call. He was five
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minutes late, and the guys came and took the car away,
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and he left and he had to pay the money,
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but he left with a smile in his face. When
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it was my turn, instead of asking her about getting
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the car inspected, I went straight up to and I said,
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you know, I'm going to take a minute of your
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time to tell you that what you just did made
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my day because I actually saw a person treat another
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person with kindness in a place where you don't expect
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people to be treated with kindness. Yeah, anybody that has
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an interaction with the police department tends to wind up
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having a negative reaction to it. And here I saw
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the positivity. She missed it up and she said to me,
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you've made my day. Nobody in all of the thirty
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years that I've been doing this job has ever told
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me I've done a good job. You're the first person.
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And I said, so that little taking of one minute
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of my time made her happy. That made me happy. Yes,
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and I dare say that she's going to go back
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and do her job with that much more vigor and
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that much more kindness because she said somebody noticed, Yeah,
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a random stranger.
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Yeah. Well, we all want to be seen and heard. Course,
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and so when you do see that and acknowledging that
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and making note of that, you know, we make note
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of all the bad stuff.
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Of course, I'm.
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Making note of the good stuff. And that's why, you know,
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every week I'm like, look back on your week and
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celebrate some of the good stuff. They could be small,
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little steps, but celebrate the good stuff that you've done.
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And if you have if you can't find something just
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to better next week, absolutely go out and say hello.
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My my husband says to me all the time, he's like,
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why do you constantly go up to people and tell
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them you like this or that? And I was like,
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because I know I like it when somebody does it
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to me, really like it, so I will tell them.
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I won't just will and nelly tell somebody something. But
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if they look nice, or they're dressed nice, or you
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know that it's just it's just inspiring, or they have
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a nice outfit on, I will make a mention of it.
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He goes, I'm not allowed to do that because I'm
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a guy, and I was like, you're allowed to do
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whatever you want. He goes, but I can't imagine me
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going up to another guy going bro, you look really nice.
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And I was like, okay, that's fine. I said, well
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I can and I do. And it's because I know
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how I feel when something's time to do it for me.
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So I like to point it out because somebody has
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taken the time to do that, and you know what
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makes them feel good. The other thing is is look up.
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My mother used to say that all the time is
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look up, make eye contact. With other people in the year,
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in the time of having cell phones and stuff like that,
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and making eye contact is difficult to do apparently these days.
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So doing that is a little active kindness. But you know,
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your volunteering is way more than that. And when we
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talk about this, I really love talking about all the
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different elements and you're involved in like three or four difference.
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Volunteer organizations must take a lot of your.
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Time this point in time. That's all I do professionally
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is volunteers.
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I love that.
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I think that's right.
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I think when you're listening to a Healthy Lifestyle with
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lorian I think when we come back, I really want
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to get into more about what propelled you to get
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involved in vololunteering for Yale. Yes, I think this is
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an exciting topic in it of itself, So so much
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more to come, so much more to talk to you about.
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Doc Everybody, we're going to take a short break. Welcome
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back to Healthy Lifestyle with Lorienne. I am coach Lorianne.
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And we love to hear from you. Some of your
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gmail dot com. So we were having this beautiful conversation
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with doctor Raoul Prasad and Doc I loved how we
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were talking before about you know, paying it forward and
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getting involved with other people and just giving back to
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our community and the important about doing that. We were
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both brought up in the households that that was just
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what you did. You know, it was part of our life,
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part of our DNA, and I suggest that we also
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carried that on with our children. But tell me more,
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what propelled you to get involved with Yale. You really
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dove in to Yale.
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Yes, it was, you know, because I am the person
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that I am today because of the time I spent
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at Yale. I arrived is to get my PhD. I
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was a twenty one year old kid, really a kid,
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and I grew up to be the adult that I
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am because of the experiences that I had there, because
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of the way I was made to feel at home.
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This was a place that was about nine thousand miles
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away from my childhood home in New Delhi, India, and
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I arrived there on campus and I was made to
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feel like I belonged, and that to me was absolutely amazing.
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It wasn't just a degree. It was also the fact
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that I was able to make all these connections with people.
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And so you know you too, Yes, of course.
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You're helping to make those connections, and of course people
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have that same experience. But you you know, I could
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just tell by talking to you you're very easy to
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talk to. Well.
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The other thing is, well, I believe we have to
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do this by ourselves. Is when we're in a room,
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when we're in a place, we've got to have the
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confidence to say I belong, Yes, because a lot of
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belonging begins with us. Yes, you know the imposts, you know,
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syndrome is very real. Yeah, but you have to really work,
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You really have to work to make sure that you
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get past that and you believe that you belong and
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then everybody else believes that you belong as well.
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Yeah, most people one hundred percent.
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Now, I know you've beenolunteering at y'all for three I
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think years.
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Now, three years now.
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Yeah, how did that transpire?
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It started because I got in a survey announcement asking
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for volunteers, and I filled it out, and I was
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back in the year two thousand and I forgot all
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about it. And two years later, somebody responds, I get
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a phone call in my brand new office at the
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Lawrence Livermore Labs. It was summer of two thousand and two,
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and this gentleman introduced himself as the chair of the
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Graduate School Alumni Association and said they had a spot
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to fill a two year term, a partial term for
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me to go and be a part of this board.
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And I said, sure, this sounds like an excellent I
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did two meetings, not a big ask.
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I'll do it.
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I haven't been back to New Haven for the past
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ten years. It'll be a lovely thing to go to.
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And I did that, and I arrived there and I
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started talking to the other volunteers. I got to talk
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to the students, and I recognized that, while changed, a
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lot was exactly the same, the kinds of things that
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were not ideal when I was a student, was still
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not as ideal. You know, you get your degree, you
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get to study whatever you're studying, but nobody really helps
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you look for the next thing.
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After you graduate.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's lonely.
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That's lonely. That's a very lonely place. I felt that.
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And I'm one of those people that believes that when
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something has happened to me that I did not enjoy doing,
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I tried to make sure that nobody else that follows
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behind me has to suffer through the same fate. Yes,
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I remember, you know, in joining my first year in
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undergraduate and being a freshman and being haste, and then
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of course I become a sophomore, and now I'm supposed
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to be hazy, and I refuse to be haste. I
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refuse to haze people. And I said, I did not
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enjoy that, and I was laughed at. My classmates did
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not appreciate it. I was looked down upon, and in fact,
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I got ased a second time around because I refused
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to participate in the hazing. But I said, I am
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not doing it.
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This is not me.
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It's okay, And you know that's the way I am.
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And so getting this opportunity to go back was a
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wonderful way to go and say, Okay, so I can
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now make a difference. And I came up with this
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idea of creating a program which involved bringing alumni back
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to campus to talk to students, to tell them how
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they did what they did, you know, scientists, engineers, philosophers, economists,
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art history majors, every single one of them, and see
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what you can do after you graduate, and what are
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the career paths you can take. And it turned out
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to be a riproaring success. Fifteen years later. That program
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still is a signature part of the Yale Graduate School,
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and in fact they use it to lure students to
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accept ad mission, saying you're not just going to get
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a degree, You're actually going to get a commune. Yes.
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Yeah, yeah, And I think that's the number one thing
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my son said when he went to college. He goes
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it really wasn't about the education.
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It was about who I met and who exactly.
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And now I have this community that I can go
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back to. One of the things that I want to
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just go back to is you applied in two thousand
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and then two years later. This is partially for my
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son and other people. My son applies to something in
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the next week. They never answered, and I was like,
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oh my gosh, take a breath.
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Yes, exactly what thing they're doing exactly.
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By waiting those two years, you just never know what's
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going to happen. But you never application. You would absolutely
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phone calls.
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Absolutely, you know it's it's it's like the in California,
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the state lottery has a tagline, you can't win if
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you don't play. Yeah, it's the same way is you know,
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It's it's true of life. Yes, if you want something,
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you can't expect it unless you ask for it or
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you try for it.
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Well, how about you.
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You've got to make a shame.
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Help people know you're interested if you don't apply precisely. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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if you don't answer the call as they say. Another
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thing that you said. I love that you didn't like
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the way you felt. You didn't like that, so you
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didn't do it either. That's beautiful. I love that. That's
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something that I agree with, and I do the same thing.
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It's like, no, I didn't like that. When I was
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going through my transitions in my life, I wish I
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had had a me That's what I do what I
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do today because I wish I had had a me
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there to work it through. I've gone through the hurdles,
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I've made the mistakes, so now I can help you
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avoid them if you want to, if you're supposed to.
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Some people have to learn certain things by doing it themselves,
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feeling the pain. Other people are great by hearing and
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observing and they can jump the hurdle of go around it.
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So by doing what you do. That's a beautiful thing too.
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And I think, I really really think it's important to
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repeat something that you said that's very Germane is that
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you have to start from a place of you are
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included in there. And that's the hardest part about walking
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through the door, is that you deserve to be there.
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You're equal among equals, and that you get to learn
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from other people. That's what I'm excited about. When I
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meet new people, I'm like, what am I going to
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learn from that person? Because you've had different life experiences
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I have, and now I can learn through those life
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experiences exactly. Y, if you met everybody that was identical
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to yourself, you might as well not go anywhere and
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look at the mirror. Yeah, it's boring. Yeah, And and
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I like people who don't have the same opinions too. Yes,
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I want to hear my own voice. I could just
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talk in the mirror too. I can talk to you hell,
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but I like to hear other people's reasoning and why
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they think that way. And very often as fervent as
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I might stand in my shoes on that particular topic.
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Very often I get persuaded otherwise what they say. But
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if I didn't have those conversations, and they're not always comfortable,
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I didn't have those conversations, I wouldn't learn. And that's
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how we learned. We learned exactly having those kind of conversations.
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Mention another organization, Butterflies. Now, I'm a big butterfly person.
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I have a butterfly tattoo here. Yes, butterflies. They're very
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meaningful for me on very many levels. Talk to me
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about getting involved in butterfly, what that's about, how we
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can support it.
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Absolutely. So I got involved with butterflies because of my children.
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Interestingly enough, they were in middle school and they had
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to do their community service project. We were going to
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visit the grandparents in India and it's hot in the
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summertime when schools are off, so we decided we'll do
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it in February, which is when it's really nice and pleasant.
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Of course, that mean talking to the teachers because we're
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going to take the kids out during school time. And
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they said, absolutely, fine, this is what they're supposed to do.
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This is what you're going to have to do. But
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in addition, there is this community service project that needs
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to be done and they won't have time to finish
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it after they come back, so they got to do
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it while they're away. So I said, okay, we'll do that.
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And I called up a friend of mine, a childhood
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friend of mine, who lives in Long Island, and asked,
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you know, if they knew of any volunteer organizations, because
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I know they were very much into volunteering in organizations
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outside of the US. And as it happened, they knew
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the founder and executive director of Butterflies in India, and
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they introduced me, and so we went and my kids
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were impressed. We did a project. They went around the
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neighborhood and collected art supplies because Butterflies works with marginalized
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children and at that time they were helping reunite children
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that were lost with their families. But while they were
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looking for their families and making sure that reuniting was
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a good thing to do. They were housing the kids
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and they needed to keep them occupied. What good better
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way of keeping kids occupied than having them do acts
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and crafts. So we collected three suitcases worth of art
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supplies went to the organization. I thought it was going
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to be a one and done. We're going to deliver
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the supplies and it'd be all done. It turns out
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my kids got in grossed in working with these children.
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They didn't speak any of the local languages. The kids
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did not speak English, but as kids can communicate with
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each other without knowing each other's languages, they did. And
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so for the next week while we were there, instead
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of visiting the sites and all the various historical monuments
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around the city of Delhi, we were at Butterflies every day.
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So that's how I got involved with the organization to
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begin with. Fast forward several years and this very same
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friend who had introduced me to Butterflies comes to me
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and says, we're making a promotional video and I've got
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information from India. I've got a video from India, and
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I've got a translation. But something doesn't feel right. I
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get a clip that lasts for about a minute and
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then there's three words or four words that are the translation.
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So I want you to help me because I know
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you understand the language. So sit with me and help
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me figure out whether this is really the translation or
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if it isn't tell me what the real translation is.
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And I did that.
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In the end of the thing, he looks at me
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and he says, you know, I've been listening to your talk.
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I'd love to have you narrate our videos.
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You have a good radio voice. So there we go.
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And that was Now in ten years and I've been
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the voice of Butterfly's USA, raising money in the US
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four kids that live in the streets in New Delhi
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and now beyond that surrounding areas as well, to help
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them have the opportunities that I had because of my privilege.
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Love it, but they don't have that. Just this year,
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we had thirty eight children take their board level exams
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the tenth grade. In India, you have board level exam.
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Twelfth grade, you have a board level exam. All thirty
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of them past. Oh my goodness, and they're all moving
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on to the next level, which is absolutely amazing. We
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had the kid that graduated one of the kids that
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graduated the twelfth grade scored in eighty four percent, which
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puts him in line to go to any college pretty
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much that he wants.
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That's amazing, which is pretty amazing.
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It is amazing, and it's something to be proud of.
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And just look at how you've changed these children's lives
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for the better. And I love the fact that it
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started with your children.
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Yes, it's just amazing.
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Just a lot, don't they we do. Yeah, my son
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Nicholas is just amazing. He's made me a better mom.
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He's made me a better adult. He's you know, help
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me accountable without even knowing at his young age, yes,
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what he was doing and I'm talking young age, and
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he would just ask really good questions and just like huh,
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it was a good reflection. So that's the reason why
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they choose us, right for that. You know, you have
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another organization the name that I mangled, Amandla, Amandla what
661
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he said about what do they do?
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So Amandla is actually very similar. It is based in
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Cape Town in actually the one of the shanty towns
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outside of Cape Town, Philippe, which is a which has
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the highest density of kids under eighteen year old children
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who suffer from HIV AIDS and so Amandla's philosophy is
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to help these kids go from cradle to college, part
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of which is of course helping them learn and understand
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and be able to go to college, but also to
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be able to be alive to get to that point,
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because when you're suffering from HIV. So that's an organization
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that is working in Cape Town. The founder of AMANDLA
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is also a Yale graduate. And my work with butterflies
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and my work with Yale had all of my Yale
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associates know about my work with butterflies and look at
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you know, listening to the videos that I narrate.
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They knew about it.
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And so a mutual acquaintance told Scott, the guy who
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founded AMANDLA, hey, you should contact ravel. He is going
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to be able to help you raise money in the
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US for your organization. And so Scott and I met
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in twenty eighteen in a cafe in San Francisco, and
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I was telling him everything that I know about raising
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money for kids in volunteer programs and he looks at me.
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At the end of the ninety minutes, it was supposed
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to be a sixteen minute conversation, but at lasted for
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ninety He looks at me and he goes, you know,
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I've been drinking from a fire hose and I could
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try to replicate what you've done. But why don't you
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join me and help me create this organization? I said, okay.
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It was about the.
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Time in my life when I was again had more
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time because I had decided I'd done what I wanted
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to do in science and I wanted to do something different,
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So I had the option of being able to take
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early retirement from the lab. So I said, hey, this
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meshes perfectly.
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I have time.
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I'm looking for something to do. You need somebody to
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do that for you. Match made in heaven, as they say.
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Match made in Heaven. I love it. Yeah, I mean,
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look the way everything like interconnected, so helping out other
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people and reaching out and helping other people, it just
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makes perfect sense. But this is what I'm really, really,
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really curious about. Little Birdie told me, you're writing a book. Yes,
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what's it about? When's it coming out? Come back on
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my show so we can promote it.
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Help absolutely.
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So.
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It's called Impact Shift, The Art of Pivoting for Meaningful Change.
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It's a book that basically covers my life story and
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how I have made an impact in various different areas
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and then shifted my focus and made an impact in
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a different area. And there's a lot of folks that
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want to be able to do that but don't know how.
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That's repurposing your tools, and.
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This is exactly figuring out what makes you tick, what
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makes you happy, what makes you fulfilled, and then reaching
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out and going and doing it. And it's coming about
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in December. December twenty three, I believe, is the release
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date is going to be availab will imprint and all formats,
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the electronic formats, and shortly thereafter as an audiobook.
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Oh and I assume you're going to do the audio
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on it.
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Yes, I will.
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That's beautiful because you have that great voice. You should
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thank you. Impact Shift, the art of pivoting for meaningful change.
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I will look for it. I'll have all that information
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with this episode as well. How can people reach you
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to donate to get involved in the various organizations.
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Simple way LinkedIn r our Prasad. That's a very simple
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way to get a hold of me. Email. I like
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to answer my emails. It's Ourrprasad at mac dot com.
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We'll have all that information as well.
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That's an easy, two easy ways to get a hold
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of me. And like you, I read every email and
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I respond to everyone.
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Yeah, well, if someone takes the time, I like to
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take the time exactly, you know. So I think that's
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a really important element. So getting back and being communicative
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is really important. And you know these these conversations always
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inspire me. You've inspired me, and I've come from a
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family of giving back. I'm a lion, I'm a rotarian,
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I'm a moose. I'm running out of animals and to
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be part of now maybe I could be a butterfly,
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which that would be great. So getting involved in the
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local community is so meaningful. What's the most important thing
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to you?
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What is the most important thing to me? That's a
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very good question. I think leaving the world a better
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place then I found it. And it doesn't mean changing
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the entire world. It means changing one little thing, one
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little piece. If you make an impact on one person's
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life that makes it better for them for one day,
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I think you've achieved that.
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I think so because it creates those like dropping a
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pebble in a pond, it creates it creates a You've
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already created a couple yourself, all by yourself, and I
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have a suspicion that you'll be creating a whole lot
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more ripples.
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I hope, so, I hope, so. I believe that. You know,
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as a mentor of mine many many years ago, told me,
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the day you stop learning is the day you discover
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your six feet under one.
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That's a really good quote. We're going to end it
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on that because that was a really good quote.
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Will you come back when your book comes out, absolutely happy.
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I'd love to promote it. Definitely. Let me know when
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it comes out so that we can download it too.
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I want to give that we'll do it because this
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is all in alignment with what I talk about as well.
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And you know, learning from other people and how they
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shift it is a really important element exact taking to
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go in my tool belt. So you are inspiring. I
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admire you so much. I am so humble to have
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you on the show and really just inspire every one
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of our listeners.
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Thank you soank you being green.
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I'm honored and humbled to be a part of this show.
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I really like what you're doing. I've had a chance
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to listen to several of your podcasts after we connected,
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and they're very inspiring, very very inspiring. So I've enjoyed that.
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Thank you so much, and I've enjoyed this episode so much.
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I don't want it to end, but we have to end, yes, So.
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Thank you all for joining us today and Healthy Lifestyle
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with Lorian. I hope we earn the privilege of your time.
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You know. I want to thank again our guests today,
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doctor Raoul Prasad. Please feel free to follow those links
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that are below and support the different organization that he's
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part of. You heard what they're about. They're amazing and
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he's amazing. It's really good. Just give back however you
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can give back. It doesn't have to be financial. It
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could be your time, yes, it could be anything. It
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could be just holding a door. But give back to
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your community members. When we act like a community, we're
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all the better for it. So again I want to
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thank our guests today. Look for our show next Saturday
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at three pm on JBC Broadcasting and iHeartRadio and we
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can be found on all major platforms and would be
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so grateful if you please like, follow, share and subscribe.
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Please be able to free to comment and give us
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some feedback. We love that. Until next time, I am
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Coach Lorian America's number one take action success coach and strategists.
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Let your dreams be bigger than your fears and let
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your life be filled with joy. See you next time.
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Thank you so much