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I want to take a quick break from today's episode to ask if you knew your stress
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response is unique to you, your hormones, your genetics, your lifestyle, all play a role
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on how stress affects your body.
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My name is Mona Sharma, celebrity nutritionist, and that's why I created the stress personality
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quiz, a simple science back tool to help you understand your stress type and how to manage
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it.
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Take the quiz now at monasharma.com forward slash quiz.
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Welcome to rooted in wellness with me, wellness advocate, and holistic nutritionist, Mona
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Sharma.
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Together we will take a journey to discover natural healing practices from imbalance to balance
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guided by ancient wisdom and modern scientific insights.
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I was raised living summers on an astrum, so I learned early on that food is medicine,
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and your kitchen is your greatest source of health care and prevention.
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After facing two heart surgeries, anxiety, and weight challenges, I discovered that just
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because your symptoms are common doesn't mean that they are normal.
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Together with some incredible guests, we will explore the power of our mind, body, and
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soul connection, returning to our roots to rediscover our greatest well-being.
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Ever feel like you're doing all the right things for your health?
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Eating clean, staying active, managing stress, but something still feels off?
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The brain fog won't lift, your energy is all over the place, and you're just kind
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of me.
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Well, today I'm chatting with the amazing Dr. Stephanie Van Watson, a brilliant veterinary
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epidemiologist and co-founder of Fatty 15, about a discovery that completely blew my mind.
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See 15, the first essential fatty acid discovered in over 90 years.
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Oh, and here's the kicker, it all started with dolphins.
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Yep, dolphins.
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Stephanie shares the fascinating story of how studying dolphins led to the groundbreaking
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science that connects this missing piece in our diets to better energy, stronger cells,
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and even feeling more balanced and calm.
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If you've been stuck in the cycle of brain fog, bloating, or energy crashes, this episode
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is about to flip the script on how you think about your health, and maybe even what you
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toss into your gris regard.
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Her work has been featured everywhere, and for good reason.
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Stephanie's research isn't just next level, it's a total game changer for anyone looking
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to live longer, feel stronger, and tap into the future of nature.
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I personally noticed and loved taking Fatty 15, and you're about to hear why.
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Let's dive in.
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Welcome, Stephanie Van Watson, you've a gorgeous name.
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Oh, thank you.
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You're welcome to read it in wellness.
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We're going to dive into everything Fatty 15 today.
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I've had my eyes on your brand for such a long time now, so it's like such an honor to
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have you here.
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But for background, how we typically start this episode is really identifying what it
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means to be rooted in wellness.
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So this podcast is all about feeling rooted in yourself, in your health, and also in your
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inner wisdom to heal.
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So do you have any practices that help you feel rooted in your life, in your body?
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There are things that keep me rooted that I feel rooted, and they might sound a little
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goofy, but one is even just being at home with my family mode of sitting on the couch
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under blankets is kind of like my optimal ideal of just being rooted, and I really think
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that more symbolically, right, is just remembering what's most important to your life, and for
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me being with my family and being at home is huge.
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Definitely with regard to as a scientist, being in and tapping into nature, and because
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I'm a super nerd, tapping into nature, analyzing data that are coming from nature, but trying
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to figure out what secrets it is that they have to unlock, that is like my harmonious
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zone is just being able to do that, so that's just kind of a quirky side for me, and then
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cooking.
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I think that the ability to life gets pretty crazy as you have known, and that a lot of
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times you're eating out a lot and doing things that aren't necessarily well grounded with
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earth, and even just doing the simple things like in our kitchen as far as cutting vegetables,
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the sound of cutting, and the smells that come from those vegetables, that just for whatever
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reason, those totally that helps keep me rooted on just a general basis, and then of course
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eating helps you eat healthier too.
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A hundred percent, cooking as a family I think is a practice that we're just losing the
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wisdom behind it and the healing regard to it and the therapeutic aspect, so when you're
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at an ashram, they're playing really spiritual music in the background, they're blessing
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the food, there's laughter when you're cooking, they're infusing it with energy, right?
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It's like you take on energy from the food, so I love that you brought that up.
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Okay, so on the flip side, I work with a lot of people who have these practices that might
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look like wellness practices, but they're checking them off their list every day, like meditation,
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check breath work, check, they're not even dropping into the feeling of it in their bodies,
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or they just, you know, they give up, they've drifted so far away from feeling their best.
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Do you notice when you drift?
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What are some things that make you feel uprooted from your life and who you are?
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It's, I feel the most uprooted when I'm become obsessed with sticking to the schedule versus
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what's important.
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What is that?
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As a scientist, don't you love a schedule?
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I know it's your background role about the schedule, but I think that it's so easy to
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become consumed by the work schedule that we forget with regard, and it very quickly
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uproots life and wellness, as you experienced and have been so smart to overcome.
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And so that's a big driver of just, and it's a constant reminder to myself of just saying,
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you know, being able to take a moment and reconnect and realize what it is that's the
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most important, because we only have so much time in life, so, you know, being able to
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keep that prioritized, but it is hard, it's a daily conscious effort.
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It's pulling back, right?
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And like, what is just saying the words, how does it feel to live life on autopilot?
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That's right.
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Ah, it's terrible.
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It feels gross.
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Yeah, there's so much beauty, we've got to pull back and look up, so I love that you
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brought that up.
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I've actually said that because I think so many people in the Western world really thought
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thrive on it as a schedule, and what's funny is, at the ashram, they use it a daily schedule
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to the point where it feels like torture, you do the same things at the same time every
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single day.
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However, there's also time that is scheduled for giving, for study, for purpose, for being,
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right?
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It's just that.
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That's part of it.
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Alright, so something that I love about Fadi 15, not only the incredible science behind
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it, the fact that this is a supplement that's derived from the incredible wisdom of nature,
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but now that I understand more about you guys as a brand is that you are so mission driven,
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like this isn't just a new FAD supplement that we are seeing online, there's literally
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a mission and a book behind it.
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So let's dive in.
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See 15, the first essential Fadi acid to be discovered in over 90 years, isn't that
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crazy?
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It's crazy.
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So share a little bit about your journey.
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So, and how you got into health and nutrition and why did you become so interested in omegas?
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Right.
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Right.
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So this whole thing was an accident, why which is amazing.
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And so I'm a veterinary epidemiologist and was working for the World Health Organization
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CDC and I was recruited by the Navy about 20 years ago to help look for patterns of health
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and wellness and older dolphins and San Diego and I thought, well, gosh, that would be
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incredible to do.
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And my focus at the time when I was working at the CDC was really on infectious disease.
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It wasn't looking at long-term wellness and it was really because of the dolphins that
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basically evolved into this, you know, a passion for long-term health and was whole-body
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wellness.
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And so it was brought over to the Navy.
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They've taken care of this population of about 100 bottled-news dolphins for over 60
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years.
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So they lived in San Diego Bay.
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When I first went there, I didn't know how to feel about dolphins in the Navy.
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And you know, when I went there, like they live in the open ocean, they live up to 60 years
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old.
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They went in the wild.
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The average age is 20.
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I'm of average duration of life is 20 years.
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So they live two to three times longer at the Navy.
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And they reproduce.
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They do all the things that healthy populations should do.
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And as they were getting older, we were realizing that about one and three of these older dolphins
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were looking like aging in us, which includes high cholesterol, chronic inflammation, fatty
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liver disease, even Alzheimer's disease.
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How?
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Isn't that great?
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Exactly.
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So all they eat are fish.
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And they exercise.
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And they're not eating ultra-process foods and that question that you just have to look
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on your face, right?
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That's exactly what was coming from the human health world.
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And so while my primary job was to take care of the dolphins, it incited this question
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from the human health community of like, how is this happening in dolphins?
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Because it's not being attributed to a lot of the things that we attribute, you know,
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these chronic health conditions in humans.
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So we were very lucky in which we were able to use this advanced technology called metabolomics.
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And we're able to look at thousands of small molecules present in their blood, their
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archived serum throughout their whole life, as well as their all-fish diet to figure out
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which small molecules predicted the healthiest aging dolphins.
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And we thought for sure it was going to be omegas because all they eat are fish.
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And it ended up, it wasn't an omega, it was C15, this odd chain saturated fatty acid
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was the highest predictor of the healthiest aging dolphins.
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And that started this journey that has been 10 years in the making.
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So what was it specific to their diets then, where this C15 was so relevant?
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Right, so what was that was fascinating was that, okay, all they ate are fish.
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But when we actually looked in, the dolphins have an option of five different types of fish.
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And some of the fish had C15 in it and some did not.
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And so it was based upon the fish that the dolphins were being fed or what they were preferring,
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drove, created different populations with different C15 levels.
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So those who loved the mackerel and the herring had higher C15 levels, less likely to have
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these diseases, the ones with the cape one and the squid had no C15 in it.
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So we actually kind of had this unknowingly different diets that could help very easily
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and cleanly point out which components of these diet choices, even among these five types
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of fish, helped in determine a healthy, slower aging dolphin versus a sicker accelerated
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aging dolphin.
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Incredible.
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I want that to go on the record, because the resistance that I've had over 15 years in
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this work, the three things that I ask clients to eat more of, mackerel, herring, sardines.
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Oh, sardines.
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No.
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That's the only new thing.
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This is just validation.
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Validation, this is like the incredible aspect of modern day medicine, right?
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So here's something in nature that is incredibly bioavailable for these dolphins.
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Would you say, like, is it a modern day health problem that these dolphins now are then starting
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to get sick, just like us?
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It's a great way to put it.
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So this showed up, we started seeing this syndrome pop up where it was this insulin resistance,
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fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome that we're seeing, like you're saying, at the
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same time, we're seeing this increase in people.
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And it comes.
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It's a dolphin have metabolic syndrome.
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Exactly.
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And that was the question.
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And so that's where we learned that nutritional C15 deficiencies are causing metabolic
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syndrome.
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So we've a couple of months ago, we've published what's called cellular fragility syndrome,
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the first nutritional deficiency syndrome to be discovered in 75 years, that now is we
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published being, which is also relevant to people in which we're seeing the same combination
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of changes happening in people that are there's a subset, we think as many as one in three
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of us have C15 deficiencies, which are resulting in the cellular fragility syndrome, which then
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leads to this whole combination, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver disease, fatty liver
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disease didn't exist, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, or mass old, they're going through
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a brand, a rebranding, and now with that name, but fatty liver disease, non-alcoholic,
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the first 30 cases were identified by Mayo Clinic in 1980, today one in three people globally
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have the disease, it popped up in the dolphins at the same time.
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Wow.
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And these are diseases too, we're like, inseamingly healthy people from the outside, they're
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now showing out like metabolic dysfunction, fatty liver for people who are non-alcohol
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drinkers even, right?
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That is exactly right, and it's showing up a one in three people who have fatty liver disease
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are thin, and so in fact it's the people who are thin that have this disease are more likely
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to have the most aggressive forms of this disease, in part because doctors aren't looking
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for it.
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Right, because there are certain things that they're looking for for people who have
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heavier weight, they're not looking for it, who people and people who are thin.
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So can people test for this?
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They can, so they can, so with regard to fatty liver disease, it's usually caught from
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standard panels of CBC incomes, but liver function tests, and the first thing they'll
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see is in high ALT, AST, and GGT, for cellular fragility syndrome, you take a step back even
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further, our cells are all of our, so we're made of cells, completely, and every one of
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our cells are protected by the cell membrane, and the cell membrane's made of fatty acids
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of lipids.
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And what we've learned is that our cells, whether you're a dolphin or a mouse or a human
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that we need at least 0.2% of the fat in the cell membranes to be C15, C15 is a sturdy fatty
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acid that literally, literally serves as bricks, like armor in our cells that helps keep
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them resilient and strong.
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If we have too little of it, our cells become fragile, become weak, sets up a little bit
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proxidation, chronic inflammation, and in fact, an entirely new form of cell death called
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feroptosis, which was discovered by Columbia University back in 2012, 10,000 papers
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written on feroptosis, nobody's been able to explain what causes it until now, and now
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we're realizing C15 deficiencies are the driver for this syndrome.
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So there's been a focus on omega-3 fatty acids for so long, and I think there's probably
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hundreds of thousands of studies that are done on how it lowers oxidative stress, lowers
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inflammation, benefits for brain health and brain function.
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So we see the similarities, you're talking about the changes that have happened in the
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modern world.
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Where did we originally get C15 from as humans?
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Yeah, it's a really important question.
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So for us, our primary source of C15 is dairy fat.
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So when you look at diets that we're supposed to have, it's, we need to go back, it's
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whole dairy fat that is by far our primary source of C15.
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It's such a reliable source that C15's been used for decades as a measurement of how
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much dairy fat we eat.
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Nobody knew it was active, not only active, but essential, meaning these rare criteria
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of nutrient that our bodies must have to stay healthy, but then what did we do?
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We took whole fat milk out of our diet.
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Yes, we moved to nonfat in 1977, and it was dietary recommendations that came from
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Congress for all Americans, and that, and these are the best way to decrease those saturated
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fats or to stop drinking whole fat milk and stop eating butter.
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And then it, we doubled down on it in the 1990s for then the pediatric associations again
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with good intent, then moved to including children, like infants, and saying that, you know,
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once they moved it, once they're two years old, they should move off of whole fat milk.
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And so it's, we need to learn as the science comes out, and it is now indisputable that
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C15 is a healthy fat that we need on our discovery of essential fatty acid was back in 2020,
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but wonderfully independent teams in Canada and now France have independently evaluated
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and restated that indeed this is the first essential fatty acid found in 90 years.
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So incredible.
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And I think you said learning, but also unlearning.
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So at my, at my kid's school, the only milk that's offered is nonfat, nonorganic milk.
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So basically sugar water with, you know, hormones that they're feeding kids every single
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morning.
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We're just terrible.
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And I was laughing earlier because coming from my dad's Indian background, it would
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be a joke growing up because he thought if you added milk to anything that he was making
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it healthier.
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And I just, I wonder where that comes from since milk is such a big part of an Ayurvedic
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lifestyle.
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Exactly.
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For good reason.
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For good reason.
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But this isn't to say today that we should all go out and start, you know, pounding gallons
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of milk, right?
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Because the quality of the milk that we're drinking today is very different than what
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our mothers and grandmothers had access to.
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So this is where supplementing is, is really key.
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And I think something that's important to point out is you said C15 deficiency.
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If it's a deficiency, deficiencies can be healed.
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That's right.
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That is right.
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Like other vitamin and minerals and stuff like that.
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So to go back to the question though, like if you want to see if I have a C15 deficiency,
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is there a specific lab that I can go and get on an omega panel?
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There is.
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So there's, so C15 is increasingly included in fatty acid panels, which is, which are
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typically like omega panels.
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So when you go get tested or you have, you know, people get tested, just check and make
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sure that the fatty acid panel includes C15 in it because there are ones available now.
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And then we partnered with Genova Diagnostics and there's an at home blood spot test that
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people can get their C15 levels measured, which is really helpful.
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So I used that one to measure by C15 levels.
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And yeah, so it's, it's a good tool to be able to understand where are we at and do,
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are we deficient?
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And then to be able to at least get to where our cells can be restabilized and which we
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know then will slow our biological aging and get us back on track.
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And then the Navy invested 10 years of research funding to say, can you isolate this ingredient
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and optimize it so that then we can actually leverage its longevity and enhancing benefits,
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but it's all meant to do from nature so that it can be even better at doing the job it
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does.
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And a big part of that is because in milk and dairy fat, even though I do think children,
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the best way for children to get C15 is get at least getting back to having them getting
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whole fat milk, but you're making a really good point when I work agricultural practices
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have changed.
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We know that cows fed grass have twice as much C15 in their milk than cows fed corn.
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We don't necessarily know what cows were fed and so there's a lot of things outside
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of our control.
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But as we get older, if again, we look back at nature on mammalian babies, drink milk,
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but as they become adults, they don't keep drinking milk.
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So I think it leads into that dairy fat has 400 different fatty acids in it.
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Only 1% of those fatty acids is C15 and over 40% of the fatty acids in there are pro
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inflammatory fats, which is a good for a short term, but for taking for what we hope to
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be 100 plus years of life, a big reason why the Navy said, gosh, can we find a way to optimize
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this so we can leverage C15, the power of nature C15 throughout our entire lives?
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Incredible.
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It's funny, just the timing of this conversation, I was off dairy for a really long time.
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Now I'm understanding just from like a gut health perspective, eliminating massive food
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categories isn't always the best thing for us.
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So I brought a little dairy back in and me personally, I haven't felt any different side
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effects or anything.
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So, you know, I always say avoid being a creature of heaven.
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To that point though, when I'm at the grocery store, I will only see one, maybe two brands
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that will say grass fed organic milk, right?
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Feed that.
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It's like, if it's not a declaration on the other ones, you've got to look into the source
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where it comes from before you start consuming and obviously a lot of people, the majority
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of the population is adults, they might not be able to digest dairy or lactose properly
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anyway.
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So this is where supplementing would be so essential.
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So what are you seeing as the key benefits from the studies that you've done, the science
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that you have?
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Have you done clinical studies?
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We have.
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What do you see?
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Which is great.
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Or should say more importantly, others have.
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Yeah, independently.
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So, you know, once we moved, we made that initial discovery, which was association right
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in the dolphins, a better health.
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We were seeing the same picture was coming out in people.
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So people with higher C15 levels, lower risk, and these are giant studies, like thousands
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of people followed over decades, higher C15, lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes, fatty
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liver disease, heart disease, and even certain types of cancers.
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So that association was shared between the dolphins and people.
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So then we moved, sure, C15 into the lab.
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We worked with Dr. Ed Dennis, who was head of editor in chief for the Journal for Lipid
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Research for 15 years.
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So like the expert, right?
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And we took this hypothesis to add.
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And he's like, step chances are the whole fatty acid rule didn't miss this.
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He just got worried.
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Like a dolphin veterinarian came along.
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He's like, see, 15's been known since the 1950's, but he's like, the dolphin angle is
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interesting.
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So here are the studies, you know, that should be done.
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And so we did those studies and with each study is like, does it have, is it bioactive?
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Is it safe?
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What concentrate are the concentrations of those that match what we should have in our
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body is a bioavailable, all of these things and just, it just kept passing every test.
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And at the end of those studies, we realized that C15 does a lot of things.
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It's called a pleiotropic molecule.
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So it means it's another word is promiscuous.
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So it gets around.
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It does a lot of really good things.
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So it's strengthens our cell membrane.
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It has no double bonds.
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So it's particularly resistant to oxidation.
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So that's a big role.
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It also activates specific receptors like p-par-alpha-delta, AMPK, which is at the heart of the longevity
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pathway and helps with glucose control, AKT, it inhibits m-tore, and it inhibits jack
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stat.
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So, right.
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So these are really impressive mechanisms of action that it has that, and then we were
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also able to show that it repairs mitochondrial function.
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It has this way of basically skipping over the part of where mitochondria breaks down.
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So the long story short being, as an essential fatty acid, it plays a really important role
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in doing a lot of things that then translate to like something things that we care about.
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So again, slowing our biological aging at the cellular level and the result is given
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all these activities, is it taps into the longevity pathway to truly it's meant to extend
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and preserve the length of our health for as long as possible.
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And the results that people say long-term is that we see improved metabolic health.
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So with regard to being able to again, which makes sense from AMPK, improved glucose control,
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decreased insulin resistance, and decreased cholesterol and inflammation when we started
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looking at this in the lab, helping with fatty liver disease, decreasing, you know, improving
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cellular stability, but also decreasing fibrosis in the liver, and really remarkable functions.
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But then moved to Jeff Schwimmer, Dr. Jeff Schwimmer, he's a leading physician for kids with
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fatty liver disease.
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And Jeff read our paper in dolphins, talk about dolphins having fatty liver disease, and
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Jeff reached out and he's like, I don't think it's the same disease, but interesting to
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like send me some liver samples, like, but you have archived.
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And so we did Jeff looked at the liver samples and he sent an email back and he's like, we
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are a go because this is the exact same disease as I'm seeing in the kids.
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And he's like, what is going on?
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It's not sugar.
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It's not like for the dolphins, like, so then we were together, we've been working independently
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over the past 10 years where then he showed kids with higher C-15 have lost fat in their
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liver and that then led to a clinical trial where he gave young adults, graduates from
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his pediatric patients who have a history of fatty liver disease.
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He gave them fatty-15 for 12 weeks and he was able to show that if we got them up and
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over this critical threshold of being not C-15 deficient, so importantly two out of three
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of the participants at the beginning were C-15 deficient, got them up and over, not being
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C-15 deficient, they had stronger blood cells which were anticipating so stronger cells
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and importantly lower ALT and ASD, so it was lowering their liver enzymes.
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So now Jeff is you know he's on helping to lead, he's like, just like you were seeing
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Mona, like if a large subset of people with this syndrome is because of a deficiency, the
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upside of it it is flexible and that's our urgency, it's how do we get C-15 back through
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agricultural practices, through a lot of different ways, which includes supplementation, it's
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part of the solution.
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I couldn't agree more, I think what's important about everything he just said is this goes
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far beyond the omega conversation, like you just listed the top alarming rises in disease
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and inflammatory markers within the body that are causing us to age faster and get disease
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prematurely, so this is a way, way, way bigger conversation than that.
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To bring it back in to really focus on that though, you know how can we tie fatty-15
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with omega-3 should one supplement with one versus the other and maybe before we do
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that, I think people understand the concept, oh yeah, omega-3s are good for you, but I think
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we're at a point in history where they're so crucial because of our modern day diet, right?
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So in Ayurveda, we believe in a balance in omega-3, 6, and 9 as there should be, right?
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But you and I both know that when we're looking at people's labs, they're out of balance.
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People tend to be way higher in omega-6 and omega-9, a racodonic acid also which is fueling
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inflammation, fueling aging also.
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So in a world where we can't just go out, no one should buy an omega-3 fatty acid from
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a Costco or a drug store because chances are they're garbage.
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The quality is really, really low.
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It could be rancid also.
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We have to think about the oceans also, but in a world where, you know, we know about
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omega-3s, how does fatty-15 fit into the omega-3 conversation and the ratios that we need
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to optimize?
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Yeah, this is really good conversation.
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So when we talk about omega-3s, that they are essential, right, especially alpha-limal
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lemic acid, but that feeds into DHA and EPA, the ones that we know, well, and not everybody's
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good at converting that ALI into EPA, so getting all three of them are important.
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Omega-3s are polyunsaturated fatty acids, and so this means that we know that just a
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little bit that their chemical structure means that they have double bonds.
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I think it's unsaturated, it has a double bond, a polyunsaturated has multiple double
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bonds.
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And double bonds are great because they help with flexibility and it's why their oils
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at room temperature helps make our cell membranes flexible.
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C-15 is like the yin and yang of the fatty acid world, so where there's an odd chain saturated
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fatty acid where their job is to have no double bonds and their job is all about resilience
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and helping cells be stronger.
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So just like you said, that there is a balance that's needed between having the oil, you
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know, ones with the double bonds, polyunsaturated with the saturated inner cell membranes, so
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that they're flexible and resilient.
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So there's also a balance issue with regard to C-15 and odd chain versus even chain saturated
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fatty acids.
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So C-16, C-18, opposite, pro-inflammatory associated with higher risk of type D diabetes,
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fatty liver disease, heart disease, and they're present at much, much higher levels,
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like we talked about in foods.
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So one of our calls to action is to be able to understand what's a ratio that we could
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get, what's the ideal ratio we can get and what foods have where there's a C-15, kind
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of like you have your omega-6, omega-3, you have your C-16 to C-15 ratio where you want
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to get that C-15 up as high as possible, because you have the same thing, pro-inflammatory
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anti-inflammatory fatty acids.
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So yeah, so we need, so this discovery of C-15 as an essential fatty acid, be like saying
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we discovered vitamin A, we wouldn't say stop taking vitamin C, right?
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So getting your fatty acids is all of your essential fatty acids are important, and
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one of your point with regard to the quality, right, is important, and it's because just
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like you said, studies repeatedly show that over that half reliably shed, that at least
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half of the supplements on the shelf, omega-3 supplements, have gone bad, on that there
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you have measurable lipid proxidation and rancidity, that is not the fault of the manufacturers,
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it is super fragile molecule, and it's fish oil, right, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it
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is, and you know, and that is a big reason why when we developed this with a navy, we
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could have put butter in a capsule and called it a sea, it's a supplement, but we didn't
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do that, it's like, let's take the pure ingredient, because all of these studies that we talked
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about is with pure fatty, pure C-15, which is a free fatty acid is bioavailable, because
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it saturated doesn't go bad, it's a powder, and so it's stable, it's just a lot harder
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to do with our omegas, and so the limitation is coming from nature, and you know, but ensuring
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that you have the absolute highest quality is really important.
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I love that you said that, so I've been taking fatty-15 for almost about a month now, I didn't
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stop my omega-3, just because I talk about the importance of them every day, and in conversation
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with my clients, would I love people to be eating a fatty fish three times a week? Yes,
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if they lived in Alaska, it would probably be a lot better, right, right, the quality of
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the fish that we're getting today, you know, from mercury levels, and the plastics in
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our ocean, and stuff like that, I don't know that eating more fish is necessarily a cure
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anymore, so then we go to omega-3 supplementation, and some, you know, omega-3 rich foods from
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flax and chia and stuff like that, and it's really hard to get quality supplements, and
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you have to consider the rancidity, and it's not a type of supplement that I would buy
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in bulk to have sit and oxidize on my shelf-long term, either. It's funny enough, omega-3 was
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the first supplement, air quotes that my mom started giving me as a kid though, so when
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she caught on to the benefits of omega-3 for her rheumatoid arthritis, and she knew
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as a kid I wasn't eating a lot of fish, she had this lemon flavored, you know, omega-3
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arctic, yeah, so that's my association with it always, but I'm a big fan then, just merging
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the science from fatty-15 and everything that you've mentioned with high quality omega-3
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fatty acids and the benefits that we all need, we live in an inflammatory world, and specifically
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for longevity now, you know, you mentioned M-Tor, Dr. David Sinclair talks a lot about
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this through fasting, a lot of people have a hard time fasting, oh yeah, right, or doing
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other modalities that are going to help with their longevity, so fascinating studies,
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and do you feel like now, obviously, you guys are getting a lot of eyes on fatty-15 and
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the C-15 molecule, I'm assuming there'll be more clinical studies, more data that you'll
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have relevant to make more accessible?
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Yeah, absolutely, and so what's been great is that sense, so first there were all these
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studies coming out with association of humans in C-15 and better health, at the same time
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we were coming out with the dolphin discoveries, and then over the past 10 years, really it's
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just been influx of people, of prestigious research teams all over the world have been working
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with C-15, so at DiscoverC-15.com is where all the peer reviews, so they're over a hundred
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peer reviewed studies now from teams throughout the world demonstrating C-15's health benefits,
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and so that's where the joy has really come from, because making a discovery is great,
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it doesn't hold unless other people have done the work independently of you, and in fact
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purposely skeptical and skilled do the work and publish their results, whatever they are,
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and let the story roll out and fold out over the years, and what's happened over the past
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10 years is just an extraordinary amount of literature supporting this really as a molecule
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we need to be able to support our long-term health, so there was another clinical trial
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that was done in Singapore, that was with women with fatty liver disease, it showed at
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lower LDL cholesterol, it improved the gut microbiome, so as far as increased growth of bifidobacterium
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adolescentus, which that microbiome itself has been shown to extend longevity in worms,
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so we'll take that with the greatest health, you know, extended by 12 days, like it's
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double the lifespan of a worm, so but really important stays down the longevity front, being
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almost like things like people with a higher C-15 have when you use these epigenetic clocks,
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again this is a completely independent team showing that people with higher C-15 have slower,
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have a younger biological age than their chronological age, so when you put all the pieces
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together, it's why Dr. Nick Shorke, who's head of NIH's longevity consortium, and he's
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been doing that for 15 years, he's like, I've seen every longevity molecule under the
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sun, and he's like, there's nothing that has as much data and support to support our longevity
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than C-15, so it's been validating, right, and helpful to really, our job is to follow
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the data, and the data just keep pointing to all of the nature, like, thank you dolphins,
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and what's wonderful is by helping dolphins is how we made this discovery, and it's wonderful
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saying that we should be doing more of that, like helping other species, and as we're helping
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out different components of Earth, whether they're plants or animals, that we have an opportunity
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to learn from them and give back to them, which is wonderful.
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I pray the future of medicine continues to look to nature to heal.
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We already get so many drugs sourced from nature itself, right, so if we just like pull
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back a little bit more into all of the other healing aspects, that's my dream job.
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Let's declare that's my dream job.
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I love it, done, done, done, yes, actually, next.
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Personally, as a woman, I'd love to hear like, how have you felt since taking it to do notice
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any physical changes? Yeah, so, so long-term, so I am seeing like, yeah, my blood, my blood
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values are awesome, are fantastic, which is great. And I do attribute a lot of that to fatty
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15. That was not always the norm. And so it's doing what it should be doing. Long-term,
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what was the surprise, Mona, is when I first started taking it within the first few weeks,
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I was had a calmer mood, I was sleeping deeper, I had less appetite in between meals, and my
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joint pain went away. And I was like, strange, like this just got to be a placebo effect. And we
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started seeing that our customers were reporting the same thing. And so we launched in 2021,
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we've had over, so today we have over 85,000 active subscribers. And reliably when we
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ask people at week two, are you feeling any benefits reliably? It's kind of that combination
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of benefits that half of people report. So they were like, okay, what's happening here? So we
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actually, the research has continued this whole time. So we went back to the dolphins and the data
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and we found a second molecule. So, you know, when we looked at molecules that were predicting
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healthy aging dolphins, C15 was at the top, but there were a hundred. Right. So there's a lot,
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right? Still to be discovered. When we went back, we saw another one that was really high on the
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list that had C15 in it. And so it's a metabolite. Our bodies take C15, use it to make the second
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molecule called pentadecinoel carnitine called PDC. And PDC, when we put that to the test, it ends up
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being the second ever discovered full-acting endocannabinoid. So it fully activates CB1 and CB2
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only the second. So our bodies were, you know, you think about we have these receptors in our body,
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not from marijuana. Like, that's not why we have them because dogs have them.
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I don't think I'm the only one. They're not the only ones. They're not the only ones. Yeah.
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They're the animals. They're already like that. But we have them and the endocannabinoid system,
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like such an important role in whole body balance, in homeostasis, in sleep, and pain management,
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all of those things. And Jeff's study also showed that when people took more fatty 15 that they're
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PDC levels. So they were like, ah, okay. Now this is making sense that, and that may differ.
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Our genetics don't drive for the most part because it's an essential fatty acid. Almost all of us
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can use and put C15 to work. But it may be that genetics may differ upon how well people can
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put, can make PDC. So anyway, that was for me. I thought those were the, we call them delights
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and surprises. We don't encourage, like we don't say, take fatty 15 to sleep deeper. But boy,
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when people take it and they sleep deeper, they're larylb, which is why our retention rates are
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just unheard of in the supplement industry. And I think it's just a big part of it is it's really
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something we're meant to have. It is a pure molecule. You know exactly what you're getting. It's
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exact same molecule that are doing all these tests. It's just much more likely to go to work and
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provide these delights and surprises. Yeah. I never even considered that. So as a woman
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for women listening, we know typically week three, week four of our cycle, there might be some
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disruptions with our sleep, especially in the later paramanopause, menopause years. I looked at my
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sleep score this morning when typically there would be a big drop. And I had an hour and 51 minutes
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of REM last night and an hour and 20 of deep. This is like unheard of for me. I don't know the direct
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correlation, but I'm smiling here to ear because this is the only thing in addition that I brought on.
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That could be different. But when this air is I will definitely post a panel with my C15 markers
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and the changes because that is just fascinating. Yeah. And to think about like you just you've
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covered so many topics, if we can take a supplement, and I always say like try to tune into your
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body and how you see and feel the shifts, obviously you can so hyper focused on this. But if someone's
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going to really tune into doing this or using this as a supplement, tune into the feelings of
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your body, the symptoms that you have, the subtle shifts, I think people really look for alarming
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changes. I didn't feel it different. Instead, it's the subtle changes over time as you rebuild
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your numbers that you might feel something that's a little bit more personalized. That's right.
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Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah. So for my understanding then, we mentioned that C15 and
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omega-3s are extremely beneficial. Would you say there's any other supplements that are co-factors
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for C15? Is there anything else that you're taking even from a personal standpoint?
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Yeah, I'm adding 15s at least supplement. I take, I do, I do eat fish. But the questions that
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you have with regard to mercury and all of those things are really important. So that's my primary
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source of omegas. And I also have a hard time following like the pills and I just couldn't,
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I couldn't do it. And then once I heard about it as far as the quality. So I go to food sources
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as much as I can for omega-3s. I do think there are other supplements. I think it's what we're
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learning and as we're engaging experts in the nutrition field and fatty liver disease and aging
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longevity that we're all understanding that C15's essential is like a part of that stack,
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that health stack that everybody needs, including kids. So we need to age healthfully from the very
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beginning. Absolutely. And then from there we've built from there. So I think it's really people
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trying things and seeing what works for them. And so I do think like even though C15 plays a role
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in mitochondrial repair, I do think that you know things that supplements that help with
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mitochondrial function are a big plus. And I think the things that help with muscle,
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helping to ensure you know muscle that muscle build up and things like creatine are also you know
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a good selection. But again it's very like you said it's very personalized based upon what
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people name. I love that you said that. Yeah because we hear about so many things that you know
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there is the science to back it. But I think you really have to personalize it. I take a lot of
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supplements because my one of my greatest goals is to be hiking with my kids when I'm you know 90
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a hundred years old, right? So longevity is a really important part of that. And mitochondrial
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function is a really important part of that. My gut health is a really really important part of that.
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You brought up earlier the integrity of the cell membrane though. How is that crucial to how we're
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feeling and how we're aging? Because that really appeals to every part of the body. It's that's
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exactly right. And it's just like all it just makes sense, right? So this is just entirely new area
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that's being appreciated with regard to cell strength. Like we need our cell membranes to stay
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strong and fight off lipid peroxidation because in the end that's what takes us down. So the fact
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that we're this discovery of C15 and its primary role along with all these other wonderful things.
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But probably the most important and unique is that it literally strengthens our cell membranes.
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There's actually a theory it's called the cell membrane pacemaker theory of aging that was
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introduced by AJ Holbert back in 2005. And what he showed, he's from Australia and what he showed
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was that the longer I'm a maleian species longevity was. So he went from mice and walked with
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the dogs and cats and people and elephants. And he looked at their fatty acids in their cell
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membranes. And he showed the more sturdy the fatty acids in their cell membranes,
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dictated how long longevity in mammals. And he also showed that was directly correlated to
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how much lipid peroxidation they had in their bodies. So AJ Holbert showed, as already shown,
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you were like, gosh, how do we how do we live longer? And I would happen to add a tapping
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it longevity on longevity. Evolution has already figured it out like how do humans live longer than
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mice in the first place? We live 37 times longer than a fellow mammal. Let's start there.
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And then like, optimize it from there. So it's really a lot of exciting work being done. And it
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just we know that this is what it does. We know that it physically goes in there. It's such a simple
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mechanism that isn't like a kind of cross your fingers and hope and pray that it taps into
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the mechanism and works for you. Like it's just something that every mammal and even their bacteria
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that leverage C-15 to survive stronger. Yeah, you're talking about cell integrity and the only
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thing that I'm seeing is we're thinking of is the integrity of our gut lining, right? So if there's
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one cell that's protecting us from having a strong immune system and integrity to our gut function
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or gut microbiome, I can only see the correlation between this and our gut microbiome. Yeah. And the more
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that more studies evolve based on gut microbiome and our energy, our mood, our digestion, our immune
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system, how we age like. Yeah, well, I'm so glad to run that out because a whole other groups
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are looking at C-15 and the gut. And just in the last six months, there have been three papers
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published showing looking at mouse models of inflammatory bowel disease and colitis and gastric
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ulceritis. And they're all finding that in these models that have leaky gut syndrome. So
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right, so they have these just an impaired gut lining because the cells aren't healthy.
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That C-15 improves and fixes the gut cell lining and it stops leaky gut syndrome.
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And that that can help explain like a lot of its benefits. And even more importantly,
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it just is importantly, is there finding that not only does C-15 help healthy gut micro bacteria grow?
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Like we know we talked about bifidobacterium, but a lot of healthy gut microbes that we've said,
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hey, if you have these gut microbes, you're healthier. They're finding that the reason why
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several of these bacteria, three of them so far, the reason why they're healthy is because they
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make C-15. Wow. So they don't make enough to help us maintain the healthy levels, but there's
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this baseline background level that so it's a crucial role. You're absolutely right that the gut is,
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the gut is the heart of our health right? I love that you brought that up. Are there specific foods
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that you avoid with everything that you know is just stuff that you cut out from your diet?
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I tried to avoid as much, I tried to minimize sugars and minimize trans fats based upon
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those things. I don't shy away from cheese and I love my flat whites so to in my coffees,
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so with with whole fat milk. 50% of my clothes just fell in love with you.
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Yeah, Sardinia where they have three times higher C-15 levels than the rest of the world. The high
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high longevity zone in Sardinia and they get they have their C-15 levels are so high because they
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have local goats and sheep and they make their own their grass bed and it's mountainous grass and
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mountainous grass actually results in animals having high even higher C-15 which is amazing and
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the cheeses they make are hard cheeses and there's their cheeses pecorino and has which has two times
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higher C-15 than others. So you know there are ways we can just again kind of tap into
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we don't all live in high longevity zone but it means that if we went back to nature the
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whole Sardinian culture is meant to survive in tougher times and you know their their diets
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reflect that. These conversations are so powerful so especially coming from a doctor with your
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lens with the science when we can relate all conversation around healing back to the sources
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of our food and how if we take ownership over maybe you're going to go out today and only by
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grass-fed milk or grass-fed cheese or grass-fed you know animal products by simply making that
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decision and being firm on it or sending a message to the food industry the food industry automatically
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will have to source more grass-fed products. Those grass-fed animals then benefit from actually
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having a life outdoors the way that they should and optimizing their health like it's the cyclical
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impact based on one decision so I love that you brought that up. We have that power and that's
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power and that's a big part of our movement is just saying even just having the dairy and she
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report the amount of C-15 and C-16 on their products and it will drive demand like I will purchase it
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like you said grass-fed will have higher C-15 in it so there are simple things we can do that
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can have the immediate benefit to us and like you said but also feel able to ladder up to have
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big changes. It's part of a holistic decision and another reason I ask that question too is
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because when something sounds so great in the sciences there it's like wow okay but you cannot
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supplement your way out of a bad diet or a poor lifestyle. That's right. So you know making a
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decision to really focus on your health and longevity with high quality supplements that are
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science-backed comes with the decision to also you know nourish yourself like you love yourself
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heal your gut be mindful of your like all the foundations of stress and over you know I can just
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speak personally from all of my clients who maybe do an elimination from dairy after they
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heal their gut they can re-incorporate dairy and they tend to be just fine or if it's the right
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type of dairy that's right yeah that's right that's amazing yeah in funny my kids my kids have
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never liked milk is that crazy it's mine too we're really 16 year old boy yeah and as soon as you
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got past like two right like you said I'm done well drink milk my kids will pick the cheese off pizza
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it's the most bizarre things like they're those kids at the party and I grew up on milk like my
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dad put milk as I said in everything so but they will do a really great grass-fed organic yogurt
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oh that's perfect right yeah so they're getting dairy from some source which by the way with
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the yogurt also I think I've only seen one brand that will say grass-fed on the front so look
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out for that also the source really really matters so that's amazing how long does somebody
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typically take to see I can imagine like you know the quality of their digestive health really matters
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but from your studies how long can people expect to see a difference so we usually say three to
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six months and we encourage people to go get your baseline blood level before you start right and
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then three to six months later go back to your doctor and get your check up great and that after
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reliably taking you know fatty 15 every day so and that's where really people not only do our
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customers come back and say oh my gosh like here's my blood work I'm so excited but the doctors
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are like what are you doing and whatever it is keep doing it and that actually drove our healthcare
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provider program was because physicians were seeing what was happening their patients and they're
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like I've got to learn more and so what a wonderful organic way right for it to be building it out
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and now we have you know lots of physicians now who are just seeing the benefits happen with
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our patients in the way that again just following the data and the cleanliness of what the dolphins
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had to teach us we just had to listen and attention that just gave me goosebumps witnessing nature
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and what we can learn from nature give me a sense of what you guys are expanding on so you're so
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mission focused this is a movement ultimately what I'm hearing from you today what's in the works
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yeah this is absolutely a movement so we created you know when we created the the supplement with
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fatty 15 we call it like a first like are you crazy like you're calling a supplement fatty 15
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or like we're owning it like this is a mission we this is going to force a conversation around
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fats let's also evangelize and like neutralize the word fatty so it doesn't have to be a bad word
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like it's great great and so it's a great word so we started with that but really it was the
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supplement's meant to be an awareness tool to help understand bill talk about C-15 to start talk
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about new changes in nutritional recommendations USDA guidelines today the active ones today they
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say 161 times saturated fat and a negative of to avoid at 161 times in a 165 page document they're
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not wrong because there are bad such but but this throwing out the baby with the
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and so we need we're trying to help force this discussion so that this movement can keep going
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and we're like we said recommendations with regard to C-16 versus C-15 ratios in our diets how can
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we get it back find the foods and put pressure on the industry for foods that have optimal C-15
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in them so that's a big part of our movement our supplement like we said is part of it and then
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also being able to get it as an ingredient back into the food supply we're understanding that
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children that the amount of C-15 baby gets is depend upon the amount of C-15 mom has and
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if mom has less C-15 in her milk the less goes to baby and that that infant the more C-15 they get
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the better their body growth the better their brain development there's a study in France
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showing that these kids who have higher C-15 have better cognitive development at the ages of
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three five and six most infant formulas have no C-15 in it and I mean for me I was at the mercy
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of infant formulas because you know I got about three solid months in and then it just didn't
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didn't I tried really hard and there was still part of it but there was infant formula it was
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part of you know Ben's life and so being able to understand at their earliest ages how to get the
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so all of this is part of it and we're part of us having this conversation is a big part of this
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movement I think we have to get really loud about it you know there's this tendency for you know
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we don't want to be alarmist a lot of people they don't want to get angry because what does anger
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do but getting angry is actually really important because what I see happening right now even with
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the awareness on you know kids need good quality fats the mental process foods that are in our
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children's diets today is through the roof it is out of control the level of inflammation and
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toxins that they're exposed to in a classroom at a school is higher than I've ever seen in history
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so even if they were born with the right levels I can imagine over time if they're exposed to more
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of these inflammatory oxidative fats then they're just going to get depleted anyways so you know
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like anything else you want to build that resiliency within the body and making sure that they've
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got it that's consistent from childhood to university and adulthood and beyond which is why most
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more parents all parents need to know about this now so I'm with you let's keep advocating I'm
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so gosh impressed with everything oh so excited to have you on today yeah thank great being here
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so to wrap things up I would love to know you know we need some rapid fire questions
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what are in your mind what are some of the most common mistakes or misconceptions
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that you see women making with their health I would say that um not enough people including
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especially us women appreciate that you can be overfed and undernourished and that sometimes when
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we talk about reducing calories we need to realize we have to be very conscious of the nutrients
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that we're getting the appropriate nutrients and ozampica's feeding into that story right where
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eating less you lose weight but we really need to be very aware of making sure that we get the
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night right nutrients not just C15 but all these other essential you know amino acids vitamins
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because otherwise very quickly we're going to see issues even vitamin C deficiency scurvy's
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making I come back right yeah there so I just think appreciation not just of oh I'm eating too
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much of this but also just being just as aware of what am I not getting enough of and just
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increasing your awareness of all of those essential nutrients that are important and love that
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you wrap that up sometimes we go to the grocery store most times on autopilot we might find a
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brand that we think is good and all of a sudden you know the ingredients over time change maybe
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the cup and it was purchased by someone else I didn't audit the other day which I haven't done
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a while just on sugar and the sugar that was added into things like yogurts or maybe a smoothie mix
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or a protein powder or whatever it is it adds up so quickly like before I even got to lunch
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there was like 25 30 grams of sugar that were added yeah and you're done and you're done it like
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that's it like you've already had your met what you're doing in your lunch yeah yeah so really
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own in on like looking at the ingredient labels because things change and yeah if you want to
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audit the nutritional profile that you're taking in you got to look with one way that women are
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making health too complicated I think that we can get overwhelmed with all the things that we're
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supposed to be doing and which is an active thought process and I think that one thing that is
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easy to simplify that everyone could do today right is making sure that we take you just take
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time to just stop and be alone in silence in a room every day not just before you go to bed
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but that you carve that time out and being in silence away from the screens and the phones and the
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is for me at least is incredible is healing but it also just helps my mind reset and it's just
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in I know that you appreciate all of these things right because yeah so silent quiet time
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but for yourself I love it I think a lot of us have the answers within us we just don't know how
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to listen that is right and when you do that the right things the important things you really
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start and you learn how to practice it you know that the right things really start popping into
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mind so do you have an ancient recipe that you love or something that's nourishing for you
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yeah hot baths yeah that's like that is a critical essential and when you go back and you look
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at the history of hot springs and hot baths and how they're used for remedies like you're going
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thousands of years back it's still something that I I personally feel and is critical essentially
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we lost our tub for a couple of months because I'm fixing up the home and I felt it like it's for me
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it just allows me to calm down but it also allows you know blood circulation and I won't go into
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the details of all of the different components but for me it that is an ancient healing therapy
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it's literally some of this to a client yesterday I said if you ever thought that your bath tub
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filling it with water is you literally stepping into one of nature's elements to have her hold you
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a great way to put it like we've all backed out of it that's exactly what water is whether it's
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the ocean or a lake or a stream or your bathtub it's right the same thing you had to pick something
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about modern medicine that excites you what would it be the use of modern technologies like you and we
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talked about metabolomics it's all endorphins the use of modern technologies and advanced technologies
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that have been traditionally used for drug development and discovery are now being used increasingly
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in nature and so that I think this there is no way that our discovery at the first essential
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fatty acid in the 90 years but that means that oh and it was found and there's not going to be
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another one right it's just the technology or you know that I think this is the beginning of
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our Renaissance of new nutritional discoveries that let's leverage these advancements to build
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like turn ourselves back to nature and figure out what else what's gonna you know what's gonna
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be the next I have to tell you in India about 10 years ago I went to a spice plantation and there
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was a girl there and the t-shirt that she was wearing said in nature we trust oh it's like gosh
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a doctor's just understood that too yeah there's a safe effective leveraging what we've evolved
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millions of years around I mean it's just and like you said some of the most effective drugs that
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we've had are all based on nature you're such a cheerleader I feel like I've been looking for you
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brain like yours all right three things that we can start doing right now to optimize our health
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sleep yeah yeah sleep is so important for sure second is everyone's I think people are everyone
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knows about exercise and increasingly understanding resistance training like add find some way to put
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your muscles to work yeah because it has so many benefits that it is just as important as
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writing the bike and going for a run is adding in resistance training and then I have to say C-15
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of course I'm just making sure you're getting all of yeah again that don't be malnourished and
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you know us being able to provide this optimize C-15 I'm developing to help everybody and
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optimize our health of longevity is an important part to everyone's routine beautiful you leave
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our listeners with one takeaway that you're most passionate about right now so there is a book
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you'd mentioned in the beginning so we have a but Simon and Schuster reached out last summer and
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they said we've been following you for a year we've been reading the science read and they're like
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this is this is a book and so they would you write the the story of the discovery so I said yes
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and it was cathartic mona because it was like 20 years of like this whole journey so to be able to
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write this book it also helped me realize what I hope is it and of course it has all the information
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all about science on C-15 and all the things that you know we covered here in detail but I'm
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hoping that the book is just as just as importantly it provides tips for longevity but even more
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importantly is that it can help us help inspire others to be able to maybe even uproot ourselves a
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little bit to then be able to take some risks allow accidents to happen and that we can find
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ourselves in a different place in which we can be even better rooted in our health and the fact
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that for me I didn't mention this really but like I'm actually terrified of deep water I don't know
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how to swim so the fact that I was like at the Navy working with all things like if you talk about
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yeah you're talking about what a brief me deep water and yet here I am ended up in this place in
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the place that I put in my greatest fears resulted in the ability to work with dolphins to make
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this discovery and how great for it to come full circle within the discovery that the dolphins gave
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us is something that can help us live healthy or longer so that we can all have more time to
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find our purpose and you write and be able to do what we love doing and so that's what I hope the
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book is just it's just as inspiring to say that if a nerdy dolphin veterinarian you know these
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wonderful things can happen that you know it's just we just all need to let life happen the flow of
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life happen so you can find your let accidents happen and find your purpose what a beautiful note
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like following the breadcrumbs until it leads you to the the next aha that's right because
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God knows like the possibilities that are there yeah it's just magic working people find you we're
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gonna link everything out but I'm sure they they want to follow you they want to follow Fattie 15
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sure so um uh the yeah Fattie 15 dot com uh is uh where this supplement is discover c15 uh
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dot coms we talk about all the science we keep putting it's probably a new paper published every
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one to two weeks now um from around the world uh and then yeah and and the longevity
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nutrients uh it's on presale so it's wherever books are so great uh classic which is great yeah
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hey i'll be sure to get that thank you so much for sharing everything today remember the power
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of your diet exciting new discoveries i'm so grateful that you shared the science behind it
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it's just awe inspiring actually and i can't wait to have you back oh man it's been wonderful being here
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I want to take a quick break from today's episode to ask if you knew your stress
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response is unique to you, your hormones, your genetics, your lifestyle, all play a role
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on how stress affects your body.
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My name is Mona Sharma, celebrity nutritionist, and that's why I created the stress personality
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quiz, a simple science back tool to help you understand your stress type and how to manage
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it.
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Take the quiz now at monasharma.com forward slash quiz.
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Welcome to rooted in wellness with me, wellness advocate, and holistic nutritionist, Mona
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Sharma.
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Together we will take a journey to discover natural healing practices from imbalance to balance
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guided by ancient wisdom and modern scientific insights.
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I was raised living summers on an astrum, so I learned early on that food is medicine,
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and your kitchen is your greatest source of health care and prevention.
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After facing two heart surgeries, anxiety, and weight challenges, I discovered that just
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because your symptoms are common doesn't mean that they are normal.
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Together with some incredible guests, we will explore the power of our mind, body, and
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soul connection, returning to our roots to rediscover our greatest well-being.
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Ever feel like you're doing all the right things for your health?
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Eating clean, staying active, managing stress, but something still feels off?
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The brain fog won't lift, your energy is all over the place, and you're just kind
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of me.
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Well, today I'm chatting with the amazing Dr. Stephanie Van Watson, a brilliant veterinary
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epidemiologist and co-founder of Fatty 15, about a discovery that completely blew my mind.
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See 15, the first essential fatty acid discovered in over 90 years.
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Oh, and here's the kicker, it all started with dolphins.
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Yep, dolphins.
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Stephanie shares the fascinating story of how studying dolphins led to the groundbreaking
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science that connects this missing piece in our diets to better energy, stronger cells,
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and even feeling more balanced and calm.
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If you've been stuck in the cycle of brain fog, bloating, or energy crashes, this episode
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is about to flip the script on how you think about your health, and maybe even what you
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toss into your gris regard.
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Her work has been featured everywhere, and for good reason.
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Stephanie's research isn't just next level, it's a total game changer for anyone looking
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to live longer, feel stronger, and tap into the future of nature.
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I personally noticed and loved taking Fatty 15, and you're about to hear why.
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Let's dive in.
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Welcome, Stephanie Van Watson, you've a gorgeous name.
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Oh, thank you.
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You're welcome to read it in wellness.
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We're going to dive into everything Fatty 15 today.
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I've had my eyes on your brand for such a long time now, so it's like such an honor to
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have you here.
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But for background, how we typically start this episode is really identifying what it
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means to be rooted in wellness.
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So this podcast is all about feeling rooted in yourself, in your health, and also in your
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inner wisdom to heal.
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So do you have any practices that help you feel rooted in your life, in your body?
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There are things that keep me rooted that I feel rooted, and they might sound a little
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goofy, but one is even just being at home with my family mode of sitting on the couch
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under blankets is kind of like my optimal ideal of just being rooted, and I really think
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that more symbolically, right, is just remembering what's most important to your life, and for
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me being with my family and being at home is huge.
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Definitely with regard to as a scientist, being in and tapping into nature, and because
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I'm a super nerd, tapping into nature, analyzing data that are coming from nature, but trying
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to figure out what secrets it is that they have to unlock, that is like my harmonious
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zone is just being able to do that, so that's just kind of a quirky side for me, and then
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cooking.
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I think that the ability to life gets pretty crazy as you have known, and that a lot of
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times you're eating out a lot and doing things that aren't necessarily well grounded with
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earth, and even just doing the simple things like in our kitchen as far as cutting vegetables,
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the sound of cutting, and the smells that come from those vegetables, that just for whatever
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reason, those totally that helps keep me rooted on just a general basis, and then of course
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eating helps you eat healthier too.
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A hundred percent, cooking as a family I think is a practice that we're just losing the
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wisdom behind it and the healing regard to it and the therapeutic aspect, so when you're
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at an ashram, they're playing really spiritual music in the background, they're blessing
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the food, there's laughter when you're cooking, they're infusing it with energy, right?
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It's like you take on energy from the food, so I love that you brought that up.
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Okay, so on the flip side, I work with a lot of people who have these practices that might
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look like wellness practices, but they're checking them off their list every day, like meditation,
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check breath work, check, they're not even dropping into the feeling of it in their bodies,
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or they just, you know, they give up, they've drifted so far away from feeling their best.
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Do you notice when you drift?
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What are some things that make you feel uprooted from your life and who you are?
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It's, I feel the most uprooted when I'm become obsessed with sticking to the schedule versus
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what's important.
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What is that?
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As a scientist, don't you love a schedule?
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I know it's your background role about the schedule, but I think that it's so easy to
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become consumed by the work schedule that we forget with regard, and it very quickly
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uproots life and wellness, as you experienced and have been so smart to overcome.
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you know, being able to take a moment and reconnect and realize what it is that's the
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most important, because we only have so much time in life, so, you know, being able to
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keep that prioritized, but it is hard, it's a daily conscious effort.
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It's pulling back, right?
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And like, what is just saying the words, how does it feel to live life on autopilot?
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That's right.
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Ah, it's terrible.
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It feels gross.
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Yeah, there's so much beauty, we've got to pull back and look up, so I love that you
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brought that up.
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I've actually said that because I think so many people in the Western world really thought
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thrive on it as a schedule, and what's funny is, at the ashram, they use it a daily schedule
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to the point where it feels like torture, you do the same things at the same time every
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single day.
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However, there's also time that is scheduled for giving, for study, for purpose, for being,
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That's part of it.
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Alright, so something that I love about Fadi 15, not only the incredible science behind
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it, the fact that this is a supplement that's derived from the incredible wisdom of nature,
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but now that I understand more about you guys as a brand is that you are so mission driven,
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like this isn't just a new FAD supplement that we are seeing online, there's literally
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a mission and a book behind it.
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So let's dive in.
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See 15, the first essential Fadi acid to be discovered in over 90 years, isn't that
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crazy?
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It's crazy.
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So share a little bit about your journey.
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So, and how you got into health and nutrition and why did you become so interested in omegas?
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So this whole thing was an accident, why which is amazing.
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And so I'm a veterinary epidemiologist and was working for the World Health Organization
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CDC and I was recruited by the Navy about 20 years ago to help look for patterns of health
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and wellness and older dolphins and San Diego and I thought, well, gosh, that would be
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incredible to do.
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And my focus at the time when I was working at the CDC was really on infectious disease.
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It wasn't looking at long-term wellness and it was really because of the dolphins that
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basically evolved into this, you know, a passion for long-term health and was whole-body
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wellness.
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And so it was brought over to the Navy.
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They've taken care of this population of about 100 bottled-news dolphins for over 60
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When I first went there, I didn't know how to feel about dolphins in the Navy.
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old.
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They went in the wild.
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The average age is 20.
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I'm of average duration of life is 20 years.
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They do all the things that healthy populations should do.
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were looking like aging in us, which includes high cholesterol, chronic inflammation, fatty
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liver disease, even Alzheimer's disease.
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How?
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Isn't that great?
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So all they eat are fish.
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on your face, right?
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That's exactly what was coming from the human health world.
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from the human health community of like, how is this happening in dolphins?
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these chronic health conditions in humans.
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archived serum throughout their whole life, as well as their all-fish diet to figure out
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which small molecules predicted the healthiest aging dolphins.
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And it ended up, it wasn't an omega, it was C15, this odd chain saturated fatty acid
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was the highest predictor of the healthiest aging dolphins.
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And that started this journey that has been 10 years in the making.
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So what was it specific to their diets then, where this C15 was so relevant?
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Right, so what was that was fascinating was that, okay, all they ate are fish.
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drove, created different populations with different C15 levels.
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So those who loved the mackerel and the herring had higher C15 levels, less likely to have
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these diseases, the ones with the cape one and the squid had no C15 in it.
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So we actually kind of had this unknowingly different diets that could help very easily
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and cleanly point out which components of these diet choices, even among these five types
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of fish, helped in determine a healthy, slower aging dolphin versus a sicker accelerated
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aging dolphin.
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Incredible.
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I want that to go on the record, because the resistance that I've had over 15 years in
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this work, the three things that I ask clients to eat more of, mackerel, herring, sardines.
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That's the only new thing.
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This is just validation.
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Validation, this is like the incredible aspect of modern day medicine, right?
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So here's something in nature that is incredibly bioavailable for these dolphins.
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Would you say, like, is it a modern day health problem that these dolphins now are then starting
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to get sick, just like us?
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It's a great way to put it.
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So this showed up, we started seeing this syndrome pop up where it was this insulin resistance,
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fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome that we're seeing, like you're saying, at the
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same time, we're seeing this increase in people.
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It's a dolphin have metabolic syndrome.
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And that was the question.
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And so that's where we learned that nutritional C15 deficiencies are causing metabolic
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syndrome.
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So we've a couple of months ago, we've published what's called cellular fragility syndrome,
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the first nutritional deficiency syndrome to be discovered in 75 years, that now is we
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published being, which is also relevant to people in which we're seeing the same combination
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of changes happening in people that are there's a subset, we think as many as one in three
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of us have C15 deficiencies, which are resulting in the cellular fragility syndrome, which then
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leads to this whole combination, metabolic syndrome, fatty liver disease, fatty liver
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disease didn't exist, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, or mass old, they're going through
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a brand, a rebranding, and now with that name, but fatty liver disease, non-alcoholic,
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the first 30 cases were identified by Mayo Clinic in 1980, today one in three people globally
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have the disease, it popped up in the dolphins at the same time.
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And these are diseases too, we're like, inseamingly healthy people from the outside, they're
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now showing out like metabolic dysfunction, fatty liver for people who are non-alcohol
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drinkers even, right?
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That is exactly right, and it's showing up a one in three people who have fatty liver disease
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are thin, and so in fact it's the people who are thin that have this disease are more likely
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to have the most aggressive forms of this disease, in part because doctors aren't looking
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for it.
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Right, because there are certain things that they're looking for for people who have
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heavier weight, they're not looking for it, who people and people who are thin.
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So can people test for this?
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They can, so they can, so with regard to fatty liver disease, it's usually caught from
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standard panels of CBC incomes, but liver function tests, and the first thing they'll
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see is in high ALT, AST, and GGT, for cellular fragility syndrome, you take a step back even
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further, our cells are all of our, so we're made of cells, completely, and every one of
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our cells are protected by the cell membrane, and the cell membrane's made of fatty acids
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of lipids.
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And what we've learned is that our cells, whether you're a dolphin or a mouse or a human
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that we need at least 0.2% of the fat in the cell membranes to be C15, C15 is a sturdy fatty
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acid that literally, literally serves as bricks, like armor in our cells that helps keep
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them resilient and strong.
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If we have too little of it, our cells become fragile, become weak, sets up a little bit
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proxidation, chronic inflammation, and in fact, an entirely new form of cell death called
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feroptosis, which was discovered by Columbia University back in 2012, 10,000 papers
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written on feroptosis, nobody's been able to explain what causes it until now, and now
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we're realizing C15 deficiencies are the driver for this syndrome.
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So there's been a focus on omega-3 fatty acids for so long, and I think there's probably
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hundreds of thousands of studies that are done on how it lowers oxidative stress, lowers
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inflammation, benefits for brain health and brain function.
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So we see the similarities, you're talking about the changes that have happened in the
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modern world.
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Where did we originally get C15 from as humans?
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Yeah, it's a really important question.
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So for us, our primary source of C15 is dairy fat.
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So when you look at diets that we're supposed to have, it's, we need to go back, it's
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whole dairy fat that is by far our primary source of C15.
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It's such a reliable source that C15's been used for decades as a measurement of how
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much dairy fat we eat.
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Nobody knew it was active, not only active, but essential, meaning these rare criteria
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of nutrient that our bodies must have to stay healthy, but then what did we do?
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We took whole fat milk out of our diet.
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Yes, we moved to nonfat in 1977, and it was dietary recommendations that came from
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Congress for all Americans, and that, and these are the best way to decrease those saturated
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fats or to stop drinking whole fat milk and stop eating butter.
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with good intent, then moved to including children, like infants, and saying that, you know,
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once they moved it, once they're two years old, they should move off of whole fat milk.
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And so it's, we need to learn as the science comes out, and it is now indisputable that
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C15 is a healthy fat that we need on our discovery of essential fatty acid was back in 2020,
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but wonderfully independent teams in Canada and now France have independently evaluated
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and restated that indeed this is the first essential fatty acid found in 90 years.
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So incredible.
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And I think you said learning, but also unlearning.
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So at my, at my kid's school, the only milk that's offered is nonfat, nonorganic milk.
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We're just terrible.
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And I was laughing earlier because coming from my dad's Indian background, it would
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be a joke growing up because he thought if you added milk to anything that he was making
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it healthier.
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And I just, I wonder where that comes from since milk is such a big part of an Ayurvedic
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lifestyle.
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For good reason.
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For good reason.
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But this isn't to say today that we should all go out and start, you know, pounding gallons
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of milk, right?
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Because the quality of the milk that we're drinking today is very different than what
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our mothers and grandmothers had access to.
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So this is where supplementing is, is really key.
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And I think something that's important to point out is you said C15 deficiency.
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If it's a deficiency, deficiencies can be healed.
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That is right.
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Like other vitamin and minerals and stuff like that.
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So to go back to the question though, like if you want to see if I have a C15 deficiency,
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is there a specific lab that I can go and get on an omega panel?
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typically like omega panels.
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So when you go get tested or you have, you know, people get tested, just check and make
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sure that the fatty acid panel includes C15 in it because there are ones available now.
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people can get their C15 levels measured, which is really helpful.
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So I used that one to measure by C15 levels.
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And yeah, so it's, it's a good tool to be able to understand where are we at and do,
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are we deficient?
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And then to be able to at least get to where our cells can be restabilized and which we
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know then will slow our biological aging and get us back on track.
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And then the Navy invested 10 years of research funding to say, can you isolate this ingredient
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and optimize it so that then we can actually leverage its longevity and enhancing benefits,
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but it's all meant to do from nature so that it can be even better at doing the job it
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does.
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the best way for children to get C15 is get at least getting back to having them getting
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whole fat milk, but you're making a really good point when I work agricultural practices
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have changed.
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We know that cows fed grass have twice as much C15 in their milk than cows fed corn.
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We don't necessarily know what cows were fed and so there's a lot of things outside
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of our control.
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But as we get older, if again, we look back at nature on mammalian babies, drink milk,
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but as they become adults, they don't keep drinking milk.
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So I think it leads into that dairy fat has 400 different fatty acids in it.
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Only 1% of those fatty acids is C15 and over 40% of the fatty acids in there are pro
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inflammatory fats, which is a good for a short term, but for taking for what we hope to
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be 100 plus years of life, a big reason why the Navy said, gosh, can we find a way to optimize
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this so we can leverage C15, the power of nature C15 throughout our entire lives?
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Incredible.
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It's funny, just the timing of this conversation, I was off dairy for a really long time.
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Now I'm understanding just from like a gut health perspective, eliminating massive food
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categories isn't always the best thing for us.
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So I brought a little dairy back in and me personally, I haven't felt any different side
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effects or anything.
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So, you know, I always say avoid being a creature of heaven.
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To that point though, when I'm at the grocery store, I will only see one, maybe two brands
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that will say grass fed organic milk, right?
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It's like, if it's not a declaration on the other ones, you've got to look into the source
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where it comes from before you start consuming and obviously a lot of people, the majority
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of the population is adults, they might not be able to digest dairy or lactose properly
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anyway.
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So this is where supplementing would be so essential.
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So what are you seeing as the key benefits from the studies that you've done, the science
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that you have?
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Have you done clinical studies?
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What do you see?
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Which is great.
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Or should say more importantly, others have.
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So, you know, once we moved, we made that initial discovery, which was association right
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in the dolphins, a better health.
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We were seeing the same picture was coming out in people.
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So people with higher C15 levels, lower risk, and these are giant studies, like thousands
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of people followed over decades, higher C15, lower risk of developing type 2 diabetes, fatty
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liver disease, heart disease, and even certain types of cancers.
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So that association was shared between the dolphins and people.
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So then we moved, sure, C15 into the lab.
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We worked with Dr. Ed Dennis, who was head of editor in chief for the Journal for Lipid
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Research for 15 years.
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So like the expert, right?
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And we took this hypothesis to add.
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And he's like, step chances are the whole fatty acid rule didn't miss this.
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He just got worried.
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Like a dolphin veterinarian came along.
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He's like, see, 15's been known since the 1950's, but he's like, the dolphin angle is
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interesting.
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So here are the studies, you know, that should be done.
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And so we did those studies and with each study is like, does it have, is it bioactive?
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Is it safe?
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What concentrate are the concentrations of those that match what we should have in our
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body is a bioavailable, all of these things and just, it just kept passing every test.
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And at the end of those studies, we realized that C15 does a lot of things.
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It's called a pleiotropic molecule.
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So it means it's another word is promiscuous.
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So it gets around.
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It does a lot of really good things.
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So it's strengthens our cell membrane.
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It has no double bonds.
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So it's particularly resistant to oxidation.
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So that's a big role.
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It also activates specific receptors like p-par-alpha-delta, AMPK, which is at the heart of the longevity
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pathway and helps with glucose control, AKT, it inhibits m-tore, and it inhibits jack
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stat.
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So, right.
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So these are really impressive mechanisms of action that it has that, and then we were
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also able to show that it repairs mitochondrial function.
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It has this way of basically skipping over the part of where mitochondria breaks down.
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So the long story short being, as an essential fatty acid, it plays a really important role
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in doing a lot of things that then translate to like something things that we care about.
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So again, slowing our biological aging at the cellular level and the result is given
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all these activities, is it taps into the longevity pathway to truly it's meant to extend
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and preserve the length of our health for as long as possible.
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And the results that people say long-term is that we see improved metabolic health.
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So with regard to being able to again, which makes sense from AMPK, improved glucose control,
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decreased insulin resistance, and decreased cholesterol and inflammation when we started
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looking at this in the lab, helping with fatty liver disease, decreasing, you know, improving
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cellular stability, but also decreasing fibrosis in the liver, and really remarkable functions.
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But then moved to Jeff Schwimmer, Dr. Jeff Schwimmer, he's a leading physician for kids with
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fatty liver disease.
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And Jeff read our paper in dolphins, talk about dolphins having fatty liver disease, and
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Jeff reached out and he's like, I don't think it's the same disease, but interesting to
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like send me some liver samples, like, but you have archived.
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And so we did Jeff looked at the liver samples and he sent an email back and he's like, we
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are a go because this is the exact same disease as I'm seeing in the kids.
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And he's like, what is going on?
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It's not sugar.
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It's not like for the dolphins, like, so then we were together, we've been working independently
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over the past 10 years where then he showed kids with higher C-15 have lost fat in their
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liver and that then led to a clinical trial where he gave young adults, graduates from
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his pediatric patients who have a history of fatty liver disease.
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He gave them fatty-15 for 12 weeks and he was able to show that if we got them up and
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over this critical threshold of being not C-15 deficient, so importantly two out of three
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of the participants at the beginning were C-15 deficient, got them up and over, not being
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C-15 deficient, they had stronger blood cells which were anticipating so stronger cells
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and importantly lower ALT and ASD, so it was lowering their liver enzymes.
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So now Jeff is you know he's on helping to lead, he's like, just like you were seeing
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Mona, like if a large subset of people with this syndrome is because of a deficiency, the
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upside of it it is flexible and that's our urgency, it's how do we get C-15 back through
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agricultural practices, through a lot of different ways, which includes supplementation, it's
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part of the solution.
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I couldn't agree more, I think what's important about everything he just said is this goes
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far beyond the omega conversation, like you just listed the top alarming rises in disease
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and inflammatory markers within the body that are causing us to age faster and get disease
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prematurely, so this is a way, way, way bigger conversation than that.
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To bring it back in to really focus on that though, you know how can we tie fatty-15
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with omega-3 should one supplement with one versus the other and maybe before we do
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that, I think people understand the concept, oh yeah, omega-3s are good for you, but I think
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we're at a point in history where they're so crucial because of our modern day diet, right?
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So in Ayurveda, we believe in a balance in omega-3, 6, and 9 as there should be, right?
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But you and I both know that when we're looking at people's labs, they're out of balance.
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People tend to be way higher in omega-6 and omega-9, a racodonic acid also which is fueling
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inflammation, fueling aging also.
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So in a world where we can't just go out, no one should buy an omega-3 fatty acid from
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a Costco or a drug store because chances are they're garbage.
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The quality is really, really low.
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It could be rancid also.
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We have to think about the oceans also, but in a world where, you know, we know about
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omega-3s, how does fatty-15 fit into the omega-3 conversation and the ratios that we need
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to optimize?
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Yeah, this is really good conversation.
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So when we talk about omega-3s, that they are essential, right, especially alpha-limal
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lemic acid, but that feeds into DHA and EPA, the ones that we know, well, and not everybody's
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good at converting that ALI into EPA, so getting all three of them are important.
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Omega-3s are polyunsaturated fatty acids, and so this means that we know that just a
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little bit that their chemical structure means that they have double bonds.
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I think it's unsaturated, it has a double bond, a polyunsaturated has multiple double
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bonds.
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And double bonds are great because they help with flexibility and it's why their oils
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at room temperature helps make our cell membranes flexible.
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C-15 is like the yin and yang of the fatty acid world, so where there's an odd chain saturated
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fatty acid where their job is to have no double bonds and their job is all about resilience
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and helping cells be stronger.
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So just like you said, that there is a balance that's needed between having the oil, you
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know, ones with the double bonds, polyunsaturated with the saturated inner cell membranes, so
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that they're flexible and resilient.
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So there's also a balance issue with regard to C-15 and odd chain versus even chain saturated
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fatty acids.
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So C-16, C-18, opposite, pro-inflammatory associated with higher risk of type D diabetes,
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fatty liver disease, heart disease, and they're present at much, much higher levels,
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like we talked about in foods.
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So one of our calls to action is to be able to understand what's a ratio that we could
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get, what's the ideal ratio we can get and what foods have where there's a C-15, kind
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of like you have your omega-6, omega-3, you have your C-16 to C-15 ratio where you want
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to get that C-15 up as high as possible, because you have the same thing, pro-inflammatory
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anti-inflammatory fatty acids.
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So yeah, so we need, so this discovery of C-15 as an essential fatty acid, be like saying
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we discovered vitamin A, we wouldn't say stop taking vitamin C, right?
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So getting your fatty acids is all of your essential fatty acids are important, and
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one of your point with regard to the quality, right, is important, and it's because just
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like you said, studies repeatedly show that over that half reliably shed, that at least
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half of the supplements on the shelf, omega-3 supplements, have gone bad, on that there
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you have measurable lipid proxidation and rancidity, that is not the fault of the manufacturers,
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it is super fragile molecule, and it's fish oil, right, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it
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is, and you know, and that is a big reason why when we developed this with a navy, we
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could have put butter in a capsule and called it a sea, it's a supplement, but we didn't
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do that, it's like, let's take the pure ingredient, because all of these studies that we talked
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about is with pure fatty, pure C-15, which is a free fatty acid is bioavailable, because
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it saturated doesn't go bad, it's a powder, and so it's stable, it's just a lot harder
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to do with our omegas, and so the limitation is coming from nature, and you know, but ensuring
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that you have the absolute highest quality is really important.
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I love that you said that, so I've been taking fatty-15 for almost about a month now, I didn't
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stop my omega-3, just because I talk about the importance of them every day, and in conversation
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with my clients, would I love people to be eating a fatty fish three times a week? Yes,
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if they lived in Alaska, it would probably be a lot better, right, right, the quality of
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the fish that we're getting today, you know, from mercury levels, and the plastics in
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our ocean, and stuff like that, I don't know that eating more fish is necessarily a cure
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anymore, so then we go to omega-3 supplementation, and some, you know, omega-3 rich foods from
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flax and chia and stuff like that, and it's really hard to get quality supplements, and
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you have to consider the rancidity, and it's not a type of supplement that I would buy
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in bulk to have sit and oxidize on my shelf-long term, either. It's funny enough, omega-3 was
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the first supplement, air quotes that my mom started giving me as a kid though, so when
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she caught on to the benefits of omega-3 for her rheumatoid arthritis, and she knew
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as a kid I wasn't eating a lot of fish, she had this lemon flavored, you know, omega-3
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arctic, yeah, so that's my association with it always, but I'm a big fan then, just merging
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the science from fatty-15 and everything that you've mentioned with high quality omega-3
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fatty acids and the benefits that we all need, we live in an inflammatory world, and specifically
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for longevity now, you know, you mentioned M-Tor, Dr. David Sinclair talks a lot about
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this through fasting, a lot of people have a hard time fasting, oh yeah, right, or doing
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other modalities that are going to help with their longevity, so fascinating studies,
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and do you feel like now, obviously, you guys are getting a lot of eyes on fatty-15 and
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the C-15 molecule, I'm assuming there'll be more clinical studies, more data that you'll
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have relevant to make more accessible?
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Yeah, absolutely, and so what's been great is that sense, so first there were all these
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studies coming out with association of humans in C-15 and better health, at the same time
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we were coming out with the dolphin discoveries, and then over the past 10 years, really it's
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just been influx of people, of prestigious research teams all over the world have been working
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with C-15, so at DiscoverC-15.com is where all the peer reviews, so they're over a hundred
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peer reviewed studies now from teams throughout the world demonstrating C-15's health benefits,
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and so that's where the joy has really come from, because making a discovery is great,
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it doesn't hold unless other people have done the work independently of you, and in fact
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purposely skeptical and skilled do the work and publish their results, whatever they are,
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and let the story roll out and fold out over the years, and what's happened over the past
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10 years is just an extraordinary amount of literature supporting this really as a molecule
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we need to be able to support our long-term health, so there was another clinical trial
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that was done in Singapore, that was with women with fatty liver disease, it showed at
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lower LDL cholesterol, it improved the gut microbiome, so as far as increased growth of bifidobacterium
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adolescentus, which that microbiome itself has been shown to extend longevity in worms,
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so we'll take that with the greatest health, you know, extended by 12 days, like it's
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double the lifespan of a worm, so but really important stays down the longevity front, being
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almost like things like people with a higher C-15 have when you use these epigenetic clocks,
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again this is a completely independent team showing that people with higher C-15 have slower,
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have a younger biological age than their chronological age, so when you put all the pieces
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together, it's why Dr. Nick Shorke, who's head of NIH's longevity consortium, and he's
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been doing that for 15 years, he's like, I've seen every longevity molecule under the
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sun, and he's like, there's nothing that has as much data and support to support our longevity
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than C-15, so it's been validating, right, and helpful to really, our job is to follow
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the data, and the data just keep pointing to all of the nature, like, thank you dolphins,
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and what's wonderful is by helping dolphins is how we made this discovery, and it's wonderful
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saying that we should be doing more of that, like helping other species, and as we're helping
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out different components of Earth, whether they're plants or animals, that we have an opportunity
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to learn from them and give back to them, which is wonderful.
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I pray the future of medicine continues to look to nature to heal.
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We already get so many drugs sourced from nature itself, right, so if we just like pull
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back a little bit more into all of the other healing aspects, that's my dream job.
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Let's declare that's my dream job.
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Personally, as a woman, I'd love to hear like, how have you felt since taking it to do notice
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any physical changes? Yeah, so, so long-term, so I am seeing like, yeah, my blood, my blood
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values are awesome, are fantastic, which is great. And I do attribute a lot of that to fatty
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15. That was not always the norm. And so it's doing what it should be doing. Long-term,
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what was the surprise, Mona, is when I first started taking it within the first few weeks,
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I was had a calmer mood, I was sleeping deeper, I had less appetite in between meals, and my
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joint pain went away. And I was like, strange, like this just got to be a placebo effect. And we
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started seeing that our customers were reporting the same thing. And so we launched in 2021,
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we've had over, so today we have over 85,000 active subscribers. And reliably when we
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ask people at week two, are you feeling any benefits reliably? It's kind of that combination
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of benefits that half of people report. So they were like, okay, what's happening here? So we
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actually, the research has continued this whole time. So we went back to the dolphins and the data
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and we found a second molecule. So, you know, when we looked at molecules that were predicting
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healthy aging dolphins, C15 was at the top, but there were a hundred. Right. So there's a lot,
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right? Still to be discovered. When we went back, we saw another one that was really high on the
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list that had C15 in it. And so it's a metabolite. Our bodies take C15, use it to make the second
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molecule called pentadecinoel carnitine called PDC. And PDC, when we put that to the test, it ends up
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being the second ever discovered full-acting endocannabinoid. So it fully activates CB1 and CB2
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only the second. So our bodies were, you know, you think about we have these receptors in our body,
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not from marijuana. Like, that's not why we have them because dogs have them.
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I don't think I'm the only one. They're not the only ones. They're not the only ones. Yeah.
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They're the animals. They're already like that. But we have them and the endocannabinoid system,
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like such an important role in whole body balance, in homeostasis, in sleep, and pain management,
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all of those things. And Jeff's study also showed that when people took more fatty 15 that they're
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PDC levels. So they were like, ah, okay. Now this is making sense that, and that may differ.
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Our genetics don't drive for the most part because it's an essential fatty acid. Almost all of us
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can use and put C15 to work. But it may be that genetics may differ upon how well people can
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put, can make PDC. So anyway, that was for me. I thought those were the, we call them delights
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and surprises. We don't encourage, like we don't say, take fatty 15 to sleep deeper. But boy,
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when people take it and they sleep deeper, they're larylb, which is why our retention rates are
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just unheard of in the supplement industry. And I think it's just a big part of it is it's really
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something we're meant to have. It is a pure molecule. You know exactly what you're getting. It's
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exact same molecule that are doing all these tests. It's just much more likely to go to work and
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provide these delights and surprises. Yeah. I never even considered that. So as a woman
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for women listening, we know typically week three, week four of our cycle, there might be some
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disruptions with our sleep, especially in the later paramanopause, menopause years. I looked at my
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sleep score this morning when typically there would be a big drop. And I had an hour and 51 minutes
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of REM last night and an hour and 20 of deep. This is like unheard of for me. I don't know the direct
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correlation, but I'm smiling here to ear because this is the only thing in addition that I brought on.
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That could be different. But when this air is I will definitely post a panel with my C15 markers
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and the changes because that is just fascinating. Yeah. And to think about like you just you've
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covered so many topics, if we can take a supplement, and I always say like try to tune into your
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body and how you see and feel the shifts, obviously you can so hyper focused on this. But if someone's
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going to really tune into doing this or using this as a supplement, tune into the feelings of
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your body, the symptoms that you have, the subtle shifts, I think people really look for alarming
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changes. I didn't feel it different. Instead, it's the subtle changes over time as you rebuild
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your numbers that you might feel something that's a little bit more personalized. That's right.
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Yeah, that's absolutely right. Yeah. So for my understanding then, we mentioned that C15 and
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omega-3s are extremely beneficial. Would you say there's any other supplements that are co-factors
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for C15? Is there anything else that you're taking even from a personal standpoint?
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Yeah, I'm adding 15s at least supplement. I take, I do, I do eat fish. But the questions that
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you have with regard to mercury and all of those things are really important. So that's my primary
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source of omegas. And I also have a hard time following like the pills and I just couldn't,
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I couldn't do it. And then once I heard about it as far as the quality. So I go to food sources
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as much as I can for omega-3s. I do think there are other supplements. I think it's what we're
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learning and as we're engaging experts in the nutrition field and fatty liver disease and aging
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longevity that we're all understanding that C15's essential is like a part of that stack,
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that health stack that everybody needs, including kids. So we need to age healthfully from the very
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beginning. Absolutely. And then from there we've built from there. So I think it's really people
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trying things and seeing what works for them. And so I do think like even though C15 plays a role
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in mitochondrial repair, I do think that you know things that supplements that help with
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mitochondrial function are a big plus. And I think the things that help with muscle,
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helping to ensure you know muscle that muscle build up and things like creatine are also you know
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a good selection. But again it's very like you said it's very personalized based upon what
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people name. I love that you said that. Yeah because we hear about so many things that you know
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there is the science to back it. But I think you really have to personalize it. I take a lot of
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supplements because my one of my greatest goals is to be hiking with my kids when I'm you know 90
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a hundred years old, right? So longevity is a really important part of that. And mitochondrial
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function is a really important part of that. My gut health is a really really important part of that.
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You brought up earlier the integrity of the cell membrane though. How is that crucial to how we're
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feeling and how we're aging? Because that really appeals to every part of the body. It's that's
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exactly right. And it's just like all it just makes sense, right? So this is just entirely new area
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that's being appreciated with regard to cell strength. Like we need our cell membranes to stay
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strong and fight off lipid peroxidation because in the end that's what takes us down. So the fact
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that we're this discovery of C15 and its primary role along with all these other wonderful things.
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But probably the most important and unique is that it literally strengthens our cell membranes.
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There's actually a theory it's called the cell membrane pacemaker theory of aging that was
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introduced by AJ Holbert back in 2005. And what he showed, he's from Australia and what he showed
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was that the longer I'm a maleian species longevity was. So he went from mice and walked with
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the dogs and cats and people and elephants. And he looked at their fatty acids in their cell
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membranes. And he showed the more sturdy the fatty acids in their cell membranes,
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dictated how long longevity in mammals. And he also showed that was directly correlated to
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how much lipid peroxidation they had in their bodies. So AJ Holbert showed, as already shown,
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you were like, gosh, how do we how do we live longer? And I would happen to add a tapping
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it longevity on longevity. Evolution has already figured it out like how do humans live longer than
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mice in the first place? We live 37 times longer than a fellow mammal. Let's start there.
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And then like, optimize it from there. So it's really a lot of exciting work being done. And it
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just we know that this is what it does. We know that it physically goes in there. It's such a simple
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mechanism that isn't like a kind of cross your fingers and hope and pray that it taps into
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the mechanism and works for you. Like it's just something that every mammal and even their bacteria
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that leverage C-15 to survive stronger. Yeah, you're talking about cell integrity and the only
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thing that I'm seeing is we're thinking of is the integrity of our gut lining, right? So if there's
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one cell that's protecting us from having a strong immune system and integrity to our gut function
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or gut microbiome, I can only see the correlation between this and our gut microbiome. Yeah. And the more
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that more studies evolve based on gut microbiome and our energy, our mood, our digestion, our immune
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system, how we age like. Yeah, well, I'm so glad to run that out because a whole other groups
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are looking at C-15 and the gut. And just in the last six months, there have been three papers
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published showing looking at mouse models of inflammatory bowel disease and colitis and gastric
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ulceritis. And they're all finding that in these models that have leaky gut syndrome. So
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right, so they have these just an impaired gut lining because the cells aren't healthy.
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That C-15 improves and fixes the gut cell lining and it stops leaky gut syndrome.
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And that that can help explain like a lot of its benefits. And even more importantly,
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it just is importantly, is there finding that not only does C-15 help healthy gut micro bacteria grow?
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Like we know we talked about bifidobacterium, but a lot of healthy gut microbes that we've said,
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hey, if you have these gut microbes, you're healthier. They're finding that the reason why
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several of these bacteria, three of them so far, the reason why they're healthy is because they
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make C-15. Wow. So they don't make enough to help us maintain the healthy levels, but there's
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this baseline background level that so it's a crucial role. You're absolutely right that the gut is,
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the gut is the heart of our health right? I love that you brought that up. Are there specific foods
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that you avoid with everything that you know is just stuff that you cut out from your diet?
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I tried to avoid as much, I tried to minimize sugars and minimize trans fats based upon
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those things. I don't shy away from cheese and I love my flat whites so to in my coffees,
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so with with whole fat milk. 50% of my clothes just fell in love with you.
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Yeah, Sardinia where they have three times higher C-15 levels than the rest of the world. The high
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high longevity zone in Sardinia and they get they have their C-15 levels are so high because they
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have local goats and sheep and they make their own their grass bed and it's mountainous grass and
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mountainous grass actually results in animals having high even higher C-15 which is amazing and
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the cheeses they make are hard cheeses and there's their cheeses pecorino and has which has two times
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higher C-15 than others. So you know there are ways we can just again kind of tap into
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we don't all live in high longevity zone but it means that if we went back to nature the
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whole Sardinian culture is meant to survive in tougher times and you know their their diets
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reflect that. These conversations are so powerful so especially coming from a doctor with your
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lens with the science when we can relate all conversation around healing back to the sources
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of our food and how if we take ownership over maybe you're going to go out today and only by
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grass-fed milk or grass-fed cheese or grass-fed you know animal products by simply making that
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decision and being firm on it or sending a message to the food industry the food industry automatically
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will have to source more grass-fed products. Those grass-fed animals then benefit from actually
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having a life outdoors the way that they should and optimizing their health like it's the cyclical
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impact based on one decision so I love that you brought that up. We have that power and that's
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power and that's a big part of our movement is just saying even just having the dairy and she
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report the amount of C-15 and C-16 on their products and it will drive demand like I will purchase it
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like you said grass-fed will have higher C-15 in it so there are simple things we can do that
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can have the immediate benefit to us and like you said but also feel able to ladder up to have
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big changes. It's part of a holistic decision and another reason I ask that question too is
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because when something sounds so great in the sciences there it's like wow okay but you cannot
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supplement your way out of a bad diet or a poor lifestyle. That's right. So you know making a
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decision to really focus on your health and longevity with high quality supplements that are
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science-backed comes with the decision to also you know nourish yourself like you love yourself
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heal your gut be mindful of your like all the foundations of stress and over you know I can just
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speak personally from all of my clients who maybe do an elimination from dairy after they
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heal their gut they can re-incorporate dairy and they tend to be just fine or if it's the right
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type of dairy that's right yeah that's right that's amazing yeah in funny my kids my kids have
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never liked milk is that crazy it's mine too we're really 16 year old boy yeah and as soon as you
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got past like two right like you said I'm done well drink milk my kids will pick the cheese off pizza
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it's the most bizarre things like they're those kids at the party and I grew up on milk like my
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dad put milk as I said in everything so but they will do a really great grass-fed organic yogurt
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oh that's perfect right yeah so they're getting dairy from some source which by the way with
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the yogurt also I think I've only seen one brand that will say grass-fed on the front so look
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out for that also the source really really matters so that's amazing how long does somebody
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typically take to see I can imagine like you know the quality of their digestive health really matters
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but from your studies how long can people expect to see a difference so we usually say three to
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six months and we encourage people to go get your baseline blood level before you start right and
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then three to six months later go back to your doctor and get your check up great and that after
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reliably taking you know fatty 15 every day so and that's where really people not only do our
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customers come back and say oh my gosh like here's my blood work I'm so excited but the doctors
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are like what are you doing and whatever it is keep doing it and that actually drove our healthcare
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provider program was because physicians were seeing what was happening their patients and they're
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like I've got to learn more and so what a wonderful organic way right for it to be building it out
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and now we have you know lots of physicians now who are just seeing the benefits happen with
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our patients in the way that again just following the data and the cleanliness of what the dolphins
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had to teach us we just had to listen and attention that just gave me goosebumps witnessing nature
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and what we can learn from nature give me a sense of what you guys are expanding on so you're so
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mission focused this is a movement ultimately what I'm hearing from you today what's in the works
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yeah this is absolutely a movement so we created you know when we created the the supplement with
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fatty 15 we call it like a first like are you crazy like you're calling a supplement fatty 15
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or like we're owning it like this is a mission we this is going to force a conversation around
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fats let's also evangelize and like neutralize the word fatty so it doesn't have to be a bad word
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like it's great great and so it's a great word so we started with that but really it was the
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supplement's meant to be an awareness tool to help understand bill talk about C-15 to start talk
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about new changes in nutritional recommendations USDA guidelines today the active ones today they
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say 161 times saturated fat and a negative of to avoid at 161 times in a 165 page document they're
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not wrong because there are bad such but but this throwing out the baby with the
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and so we need we're trying to help force this discussion so that this movement can keep going
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and we're like we said recommendations with regard to C-16 versus C-15 ratios in our diets how can
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we get it back find the foods and put pressure on the industry for foods that have optimal C-15
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in them so that's a big part of our movement our supplement like we said is part of it and then
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also being able to get it as an ingredient back into the food supply we're understanding that
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children that the amount of C-15 baby gets is depend upon the amount of C-15 mom has and
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if mom has less C-15 in her milk the less goes to baby and that that infant the more C-15 they get
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the better their body growth the better their brain development there's a study in France
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showing that these kids who have higher C-15 have better cognitive development at the ages of
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three five and six most infant formulas have no C-15 in it and I mean for me I was at the mercy
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of infant formulas because you know I got about three solid months in and then it just didn't
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didn't I tried really hard and there was still part of it but there was infant formula it was
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part of you know Ben's life and so being able to understand at their earliest ages how to get the
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so all of this is part of it and we're part of us having this conversation is a big part of this
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movement I think we have to get really loud about it you know there's this tendency for you know
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we don't want to be alarmist a lot of people they don't want to get angry because what does anger
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do but getting angry is actually really important because what I see happening right now even with
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the awareness on you know kids need good quality fats the mental process foods that are in our
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children's diets today is through the roof it is out of control the level of inflammation and
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toxins that they're exposed to in a classroom at a school is higher than I've ever seen in history
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so even if they were born with the right levels I can imagine over time if they're exposed to more
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of these inflammatory oxidative fats then they're just going to get depleted anyways so you know
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like anything else you want to build that resiliency within the body and making sure that they've
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got it that's consistent from childhood to university and adulthood and beyond which is why most
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more parents all parents need to know about this now so I'm with you let's keep advocating I'm
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so gosh impressed with everything oh so excited to have you on today yeah thank great being here
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so to wrap things up I would love to know you know we need some rapid fire questions
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what are in your mind what are some of the most common mistakes or misconceptions
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that you see women making with their health I would say that um not enough people including
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especially us women appreciate that you can be overfed and undernourished and that sometimes when
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we talk about reducing calories we need to realize we have to be very conscious of the nutrients
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that we're getting the appropriate nutrients and ozampica's feeding into that story right where
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eating less you lose weight but we really need to be very aware of making sure that we get the
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night right nutrients not just C15 but all these other essential you know amino acids vitamins
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because otherwise very quickly we're going to see issues even vitamin C deficiency scurvy's
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making I come back right yeah there so I just think appreciation not just of oh I'm eating too
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much of this but also just being just as aware of what am I not getting enough of and just
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increasing your awareness of all of those essential nutrients that are important and love that
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you wrap that up sometimes we go to the grocery store most times on autopilot we might find a
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brand that we think is good and all of a sudden you know the ingredients over time change maybe
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the cup and it was purchased by someone else I didn't audit the other day which I haven't done
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a while just on sugar and the sugar that was added into things like yogurts or maybe a smoothie mix
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or a protein powder or whatever it is it adds up so quickly like before I even got to lunch
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there was like 25 30 grams of sugar that were added yeah and you're done and you're done it like
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that's it like you've already had your met what you're doing in your lunch yeah yeah so really
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own in on like looking at the ingredient labels because things change and yeah if you want to
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audit the nutritional profile that you're taking in you got to look with one way that women are
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making health too complicated I think that we can get overwhelmed with all the things that we're
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supposed to be doing and which is an active thought process and I think that one thing that is
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easy to simplify that everyone could do today right is making sure that we take you just take
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time to just stop and be alone in silence in a room every day not just before you go to bed
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but that you carve that time out and being in silence away from the screens and the phones and the
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is for me at least is incredible is healing but it also just helps my mind reset and it's just
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in I know that you appreciate all of these things right because yeah so silent quiet time
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but for yourself I love it I think a lot of us have the answers within us we just don't know how
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to listen that is right and when you do that the right things the important things you really
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start and you learn how to practice it you know that the right things really start popping into
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mind so do you have an ancient recipe that you love or something that's nourishing for you
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yeah hot baths yeah that's like that is a critical essential and when you go back and you look
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at the history of hot springs and hot baths and how they're used for remedies like you're going
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thousands of years back it's still something that I I personally feel and is critical essentially
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we lost our tub for a couple of months because I'm fixing up the home and I felt it like it's for me
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it just allows me to calm down but it also allows you know blood circulation and I won't go into
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the details of all of the different components but for me it that is an ancient healing therapy
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it's literally some of this to a client yesterday I said if you ever thought that your bath tub
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filling it with water is you literally stepping into one of nature's elements to have her hold you
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a great way to put it like we've all backed out of it that's exactly what water is whether it's
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the ocean or a lake or a stream or your bathtub it's right the same thing you had to pick something
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about modern medicine that excites you what would it be the use of modern technologies like you and we
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talked about metabolomics it's all endorphins the use of modern technologies and advanced technologies
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that have been traditionally used for drug development and discovery are now being used increasingly
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in nature and so that I think this there is no way that our discovery at the first essential
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fatty acid in the 90 years but that means that oh and it was found and there's not going to be
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another one right it's just the technology or you know that I think this is the beginning of
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our Renaissance of new nutritional discoveries that let's leverage these advancements to build
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like turn ourselves back to nature and figure out what else what's gonna you know what's gonna
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be the next I have to tell you in India about 10 years ago I went to a spice plantation and there
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was a girl there and the t-shirt that she was wearing said in nature we trust oh it's like gosh
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a doctor's just understood that too yeah there's a safe effective leveraging what we've evolved
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millions of years around I mean it's just and like you said some of the most effective drugs that
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we've had are all based on nature you're such a cheerleader I feel like I've been looking for you
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brain like yours all right three things that we can start doing right now to optimize our health
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sleep yeah yeah sleep is so important for sure second is everyone's I think people are everyone
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knows about exercise and increasingly understanding resistance training like add find some way to put
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your muscles to work yeah because it has so many benefits that it is just as important as
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writing the bike and going for a run is adding in resistance training and then I have to say C-15
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of course I'm just making sure you're getting all of yeah again that don't be malnourished and
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you know us being able to provide this optimize C-15 I'm developing to help everybody and
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optimize our health of longevity is an important part to everyone's routine beautiful you leave
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our listeners with one takeaway that you're most passionate about right now so there is a book
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you'd mentioned in the beginning so we have a but Simon and Schuster reached out last summer and
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they said we've been following you for a year we've been reading the science read and they're like
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this is this is a book and so they would you write the the story of the discovery so I said yes
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and it was cathartic mona because it was like 20 years of like this whole journey so to be able to
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write this book it also helped me realize what I hope is it and of course it has all the information
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all about science on C-15 and all the things that you know we covered here in detail but I'm
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hoping that the book is just as just as importantly it provides tips for longevity but even more
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importantly is that it can help us help inspire others to be able to maybe even uproot ourselves a
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little bit to then be able to take some risks allow accidents to happen and that we can find
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ourselves in a different place in which we can be even better rooted in our health and the fact
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that for me I didn't mention this really but like I'm actually terrified of deep water I don't know
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how to swim so the fact that I was like at the Navy working with all things like if you talk about
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yeah you're talking about what a brief me deep water and yet here I am ended up in this place in
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the place that I put in my greatest fears resulted in the ability to work with dolphins to make
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this discovery and how great for it to come full circle within the discovery that the dolphins gave
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us is something that can help us live healthy or longer so that we can all have more time to
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find our purpose and you write and be able to do what we love doing and so that's what I hope the
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book is just it's just as inspiring to say that if a nerdy dolphin veterinarian you know these
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wonderful things can happen that you know it's just we just all need to let life happen the flow of
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life happen so you can find your let accidents happen and find your purpose what a beautiful note
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like following the breadcrumbs until it leads you to the the next aha that's right because
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God knows like the possibilities that are there yeah it's just magic working people find you we're
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gonna link everything out but I'm sure they they want to follow you they want to follow Fattie 15
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sure so um uh the yeah Fattie 15 dot com uh is uh where this supplement is discover c15 uh
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dot coms we talk about all the science we keep putting it's probably a new paper published every
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one to two weeks now um from around the world uh and then yeah and and the longevity
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nutrients uh it's on presale so it's wherever books are so great uh classic which is great yeah
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hey i'll be sure to get that thank you so much for sharing everything today remember the power
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of your diet exciting new discoveries i'm so grateful that you shared the science behind it
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it's just awe inspiring actually and i can't wait to have you back oh man it's been wonderful being here
