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[SPEAKER_00]: You think you got stem cell treatments, but did you?
00:02.713 --> 00:07.796
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people tell me, oh yeah, I got stem cell treatment before and either worked or it didn't.
00:07.976 --> 00:17.042
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I talked with them more, I find out they got either PRP treatment or exosontreatments or amniotic fluid injections.
00:17.462 --> 00:19.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
00:20.144 --> 00:27.149
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I have a chance to share with you some of the latest developments in the space of holistic health, longevity and wellness.
00:27.569 --> 00:34.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always honored intellectual curiosity and scientific rigor combined with real world practicality.
00:34.714 --> 00:39.117
[SPEAKER_00]: My goal is that what you learn here will help you live longer and live better.
00:39.397 --> 00:40.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you enjoy the journey with me.
00:41.118 --> 00:41.979
[SPEAKER_00]: So what are these things?
00:42.239 --> 00:42.539
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not
00:46.702 --> 00:47.605
[SPEAKER_00]: rich plasma.
00:48.086 --> 00:55.405
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is when a doctor draw your blood and spin it down and the bottom is the Replace House on the top is the plasma.
00:56.380 --> 01:02.662
[SPEAKER_00]: that the lower part of the plasma whereas close to the blood cells is the platelet rich portion.
01:03.263 --> 01:04.863
[SPEAKER_00]: And why is platelet important?
01:05.243 --> 01:09.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, when we get cut, platelets arrive on the scene first, right?
01:10.045 --> 01:13.106
[SPEAKER_00]: They form the clot to prevent further bleeding.
01:13.386 --> 01:20.349
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they release all these growth factors to help promote the healing of the tissue, forming the lattices and so we can form
01:20.669 --> 01:21.349
[SPEAKER_00]: the new tissue.
01:21.850 --> 01:30.554
[SPEAKER_00]: They do have a really important role in repair and or the pediatric surgery, you know, they use that a lot with the pediatric surgeons.
01:31.254 --> 01:38.357
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now widely used for joint ejections, soft tissue repair, even facial and hair rejuvenation.
01:38.817 --> 01:43.720
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are fantastic, but they're not stems up there at feet because they're almost no cells in it.
01:44.200 --> 01:50.088
[SPEAKER_00]: But one could argue, there are some very small embryonic, like stencils, these cells.
01:50.528 --> 01:56.035
[SPEAKER_00]: However, they're not activated, so they're a completely dormant, they're really not doing much.
01:56.416 --> 02:02.544
[SPEAKER_00]: We're relying on the growth factors from these platelets that's producing a benefit.
02:03.064 --> 02:11.248
[SPEAKER_00]: So much so that it works quite well that a lot of insurance companies are covering it, but they're almost no cells.
02:11.749 --> 02:19.193
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you think that that's stem cell therapy, you really didn't experience the real stem cell therapy.
02:19.213 --> 02:27.817
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've seen people who use PRP treatments and it didn't work and then when they actually tried real stem cells it actually worked.
02:28.158 --> 02:29.258
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one thing.
02:33.040 --> 02:41.704
[SPEAKER_00]: So, a lot of people thought the exosomes are actually stem cells, somehow, but exosomes are secretion products from stem cells.
02:42.004 --> 02:45.046
[SPEAKER_00]: As stem cells are the mothers of exosomes.
02:45.546 --> 02:55.170
[SPEAKER_00]: They are secreting these exosomes, which are really a little bit by layer covered little vesicles that the cells pinch off to communicate with other cells.
02:55.490 --> 02:56.731
[SPEAKER_00]: So, these are little
02:59.612 --> 03:05.894
[SPEAKER_00]: That's full of growth factors, so it's from proteins, lipids, and pieces of DNA material RNA.
03:06.314 --> 03:28.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So, they can actually go to another cell and fuse with another cell and dump always content into the other cell, and that can promote changes in this new cell, right, that you're trying to communicate, but not to the point where the micro RNA in this little packet can go across
03:29.399 --> 03:29.463
[UNKNOWN]: You
03:30.208 --> 03:34.129
[SPEAKER_00]: and actually help change the DNA of the recipient's cells.
03:34.169 --> 03:36.750
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how versatile they can be.
03:37.570 --> 03:38.610
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are important.
03:39.050 --> 03:43.531
[SPEAKER_00]: And I use that in our clinic all the time because they're very anti-inflammatory.
03:44.151 --> 03:50.113
[SPEAKER_00]: They can produce profound changes, but they are not cells.
03:50.613 --> 03:57.334
[SPEAKER_00]: Because cells have the ability to make exosomes and make it according to your demand, right?
04:00.416 --> 04:06.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So the cells, because they have the DNA and have the intelligence, then they can make these exosomes.
04:07.428 --> 04:10.394
[SPEAKER_00]: So when exosomes are produced in the lab,
04:11.656 --> 04:16.599
[SPEAKER_00]: basically mass produced by growing these mesenchymal stem cells in the culture.
04:17.300 --> 04:21.903
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you collect all these little vesicles they see create and then you give it to patients.
04:22.003 --> 04:29.447
[SPEAKER_00]: They can be very helpful but they're not as targeted as what the cells can see create in your body according to your need.
04:29.928 --> 04:32.910
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, there are no cells in these products.
04:33.670 --> 04:35.971
[SPEAKER_00]: and what about the amyani fluid?
04:36.412 --> 04:44.276
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's obtained either from eneocentesis when they're testing to be done on the baby.
04:44.676 --> 04:46.117
[SPEAKER_00]: That's early gestation, right?
04:46.744 --> 04:52.187
[SPEAKER_00]: or they're collected at birth or right around birth, you know, from the, you know, they see the water, right?
04:52.207 --> 04:53.067
[SPEAKER_00]: The water broke.
04:53.468 --> 04:55.509
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you collect embryonic fluid.
04:55.949 --> 04:57.350
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a great variation.
04:57.470 --> 04:59.951
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you getting these embryonic fluid?
05:00.031 --> 05:02.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting it from the time of embryosynthesis?
05:02.973 --> 05:03.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you collecting those?
05:04.333 --> 05:06.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Or are you collecting it at the time of birth?
05:06.575 --> 05:14.119
[SPEAKER_00]: And time of birth, the growth factor of profile will not be as wide ranging and as potent.
05:15.233 --> 05:18.136
[SPEAKER_00]: as the earlier gestation stage.
05:18.457 --> 05:20.879
[SPEAKER_00]: But why do people do Emielsen thesis?
05:21.620 --> 05:23.902
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they want to get genetic tests, right?
05:23.943 --> 05:30.790
[SPEAKER_00]: No one is going to disturb the fetus by poking a needle into the Emionic sack to do a fluid out of it.
05:31.050 --> 05:32.191
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're worried about
05:33.092 --> 05:33.733
[SPEAKER_00]: certain things.
05:33.793 --> 05:37.479
[SPEAKER_00]: You're testing usually for genetic abnormalities.
05:38.060 --> 05:45.931
[SPEAKER_00]: If the mother is older, usually over age 35, or if there's strong family history of genetic problems.
05:47.854 --> 05:57.700
[SPEAKER_00]: then if you're getting it from the early emyonic fluid withdrawal from emyocentases, then are you getting cells that have genetic defects possibly?
05:57.840 --> 05:59.261
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are all questions.
05:59.541 --> 06:04.845
[SPEAKER_00]: So the bottom line is a lot of people thought they were getting stem cell therapy and they were really no cells.
06:05.245 --> 06:12.151
[SPEAKER_00]: So if the person got the therapy didn't think they worked very well, please don't think that's then self therapy don't work, right?
06:12.271 --> 06:13.553
[SPEAKER_00]: You haven't gotten a real thing.
06:13.933 --> 06:17.496
[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you ask your doctor, are there a cells in this?
06:17.676 --> 06:18.317
[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?
06:18.757 --> 06:23.161
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully your doctor knows, and he's not going to need you a straight.
06:23.401 --> 06:24.903
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope this episode is helpful.
06:25.483 --> 06:28.064
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will chat with you next time.
06:28.284 --> 06:30.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening to this episode.
06:30.425 --> 06:31.745
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you enjoy the content.
06:32.105 --> 06:34.866
[SPEAKER_00]: And if so, please rate and follow this podcast.
06:35.146 --> 06:38.808
[SPEAKER_00]: To reach me, you can contact uplift longevity center.
06:39.428 --> 06:44.990
[SPEAKER_00]: That is uplift with a Y. You can also subscribe to my YouTube channel, Joy Kong, MD.
06:45.430 --> 06:46.130
[SPEAKER_00]: See you next time.
00:00.211 --> 00:02.693
[SPEAKER_00]: You think you got stem cell treatments, but did you?
00:02.713 --> 00:07.796
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people tell me, oh yeah, I got stem cell treatment before and either worked or it didn't.
00:07.976 --> 00:17.042
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I talked with them more, I find out they got either PRP treatment or exosontreatments or amniotic fluid injections.
00:17.462 --> 00:19.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
00:20.144 --> 00:27.149
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I have a chance to share with you some of the latest developments in the space of holistic health, longevity and wellness.
00:27.569 --> 00:34.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always honored intellectual curiosity and scientific rigor combined with real world practicality.
00:34.714 --> 00:39.117
[SPEAKER_00]: My goal is that what you learn here will help you live longer and live better.
00:39.397 --> 00:40.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you enjoy the journey with me.
00:41.118 --> 00:41.979
[SPEAKER_00]: So what are these things?
00:42.239 --> 00:42.539
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not
00:46.702 --> 00:47.605
[SPEAKER_00]: rich plasma.
00:48.086 --> 00:55.405
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is when a doctor draw your blood and spin it down and the bottom is the Replace House on the top is the plasma.
00:56.380 --> 01:02.662
[SPEAKER_00]: that the lower part of the plasma whereas close to the blood cells is the platelet rich portion.
01:03.263 --> 01:04.863
[SPEAKER_00]: And why is platelet important?
01:05.243 --> 01:09.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, when we get cut, platelets arrive on the scene first, right?
01:10.045 --> 01:13.106
[SPEAKER_00]: They form the clot to prevent further bleeding.
01:13.386 --> 01:20.349
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they release all these growth factors to help promote the healing of the tissue, forming the lattices and so we can form
01:20.669 --> 01:21.349
[SPEAKER_00]: the new tissue.
01:21.850 --> 01:30.554
[SPEAKER_00]: They do have a really important role in repair and or the pediatric surgery, you know, they use that a lot with the pediatric surgeons.
01:31.254 --> 01:38.357
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now widely used for joint ejections, soft tissue repair, even facial and hair rejuvenation.
01:38.817 --> 01:43.720
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are fantastic, but they're not stems up there at feet because they're almost no cells in it.
01:44.200 --> 01:50.088
[SPEAKER_00]: But one could argue, there are some very small embryonic, like stencils, these cells.
01:50.528 --> 01:56.035
[SPEAKER_00]: However, they're not activated, so they're a completely dormant, they're really not doing much.
01:56.416 --> 02:02.544
[SPEAKER_00]: We're relying on the growth factors from these platelets that's producing a benefit.
02:03.064 --> 02:11.248
[SPEAKER_00]: So much so that it works quite well that a lot of insurance companies are covering it, but they're almost no cells.
02:11.749 --> 02:19.193
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you think that that's stem cell therapy, you really didn't experience the real stem cell therapy.
02:19.213 --> 02:27.817
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've seen people who use PRP treatments and it didn't work and then when they actually tried real stem cells it actually worked.
02:28.158 --> 02:29.258
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one thing.
02:33.040 --> 02:41.704
[SPEAKER_00]: So, a lot of people thought the exosomes are actually stem cells, somehow, but exosomes are secretion products from stem cells.
02:42.004 --> 02:45.046
[SPEAKER_00]: As stem cells are the mothers of exosomes.
02:45.546 --> 02:55.170
[SPEAKER_00]: They are secreting these exosomes, which are really a little bit by layer covered little vesicles that the cells pinch off to communicate with other cells.
02:55.490 --> 02:56.731
[SPEAKER_00]: So, these are little
02:59.612 --> 03:05.894
[SPEAKER_00]: That's full of growth factors, so it's from proteins, lipids, and pieces of DNA material RNA.
03:06.314 --> 03:28.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So, they can actually go to another cell and fuse with another cell and dump always content into the other cell, and that can promote changes in this new cell, right, that you're trying to communicate, but not to the point where the micro RNA in this little packet can go across
03:29.399 --> 03:29.463
[UNKNOWN]: You
03:30.208 --> 03:34.129
[SPEAKER_00]: and actually help change the DNA of the recipient's cells.
03:34.169 --> 03:36.750
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how versatile they can be.
03:37.570 --> 03:38.610
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are important.
03:39.050 --> 03:43.531
[SPEAKER_00]: And I use that in our clinic all the time because they're very anti-inflammatory.
03:44.151 --> 03:50.113
[SPEAKER_00]: They can produce profound changes, but they are not cells.
03:50.613 --> 03:57.334
[SPEAKER_00]: Because cells have the ability to make exosomes and make it according to your demand, right?
04:00.416 --> 04:06.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So the cells, because they have the DNA and have the intelligence, then they can make these exosomes.
04:07.428 --> 04:10.394
[SPEAKER_00]: So when exosomes are produced in the lab,
04:11.656 --> 04:16.599
[SPEAKER_00]: basically mass produced by growing these mesenchymal stem cells in the culture.
04:17.300 --> 04:21.903
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you collect all these little vesicles they see create and then you give it to patients.
04:22.003 --> 04:29.447
[SPEAKER_00]: They can be very helpful but they're not as targeted as what the cells can see create in your body according to your need.
04:29.928 --> 04:32.910
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, there are no cells in these products.
04:33.670 --> 04:35.971
[SPEAKER_00]: and what about the amyani fluid?
04:36.412 --> 04:44.276
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's obtained either from eneocentesis when they're testing to be done on the baby.
04:44.676 --> 04:46.117
[SPEAKER_00]: That's early gestation, right?
04:46.744 --> 04:52.187
[SPEAKER_00]: or they're collected at birth or right around birth, you know, from the, you know, they see the water, right?
04:52.207 --> 04:53.067
[SPEAKER_00]: The water broke.
04:53.468 --> 04:55.509
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you collect embryonic fluid.
04:55.949 --> 04:57.350
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a great variation.
04:57.470 --> 04:59.951
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you getting these embryonic fluid?
05:00.031 --> 05:02.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting it from the time of embryosynthesis?
05:02.973 --> 05:03.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you collecting those?
05:04.333 --> 05:06.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Or are you collecting it at the time of birth?
05:06.575 --> 05:14.119
[SPEAKER_00]: And time of birth, the growth factor of profile will not be as wide ranging and as potent.
05:15.233 --> 05:18.136
[SPEAKER_00]: as the earlier gestation stage.
05:18.457 --> 05:20.879
[SPEAKER_00]: But why do people do Emielsen thesis?
05:21.620 --> 05:23.902
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they want to get genetic tests, right?
05:23.943 --> 05:30.790
[SPEAKER_00]: No one is going to disturb the fetus by poking a needle into the Emionic sack to do a fluid out of it.
05:31.050 --> 05:32.191
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're worried about
05:33.092 --> 05:33.733
[SPEAKER_00]: certain things.
05:33.793 --> 05:37.479
[SPEAKER_00]: You're testing usually for genetic abnormalities.
05:38.060 --> 05:45.931
[SPEAKER_00]: If the mother is older, usually over age 35, or if there's strong family history of genetic problems.
05:47.854 --> 05:57.700
[SPEAKER_00]: then if you're getting it from the early emyonic fluid withdrawal from emyocentases, then are you getting cells that have genetic defects possibly?
05:57.840 --> 05:59.261
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are all questions.
05:59.541 --> 06:04.845
[SPEAKER_00]: So the bottom line is a lot of people thought they were getting stem cell therapy and they were really no cells.
06:05.245 --> 06:12.151
[SPEAKER_00]: So if the person got the therapy didn't think they worked very well, please don't think that's then self therapy don't work, right?
06:12.271 --> 06:13.553
[SPEAKER_00]: You haven't gotten a real thing.
06:13.933 --> 06:17.496
[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you ask your doctor, are there a cells in this?
06:17.676 --> 06:18.317
[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?
06:18.757 --> 06:23.161
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully your doctor knows, and he's not going to need you a straight.
06:23.401 --> 06:24.903
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope this episode is helpful.
06:25.483 --> 06:28.064
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will chat with you next time.
06:28.284 --> 06:30.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for listening to this episode.
06:30.425 --> 06:31.745
[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you enjoy the content.
06:32.105 --> 06:34.866
[SPEAKER_00]: And if so, please rate and follow this podcast.
06:35.146 --> 06:38.808
[SPEAKER_00]: To reach me, you can contact uplift longevity center.
06:39.428 --> 06:44.990
[SPEAKER_00]: That is uplift with a Y. You can also subscribe to my YouTube channel, Joy Kong, MD.
06:45.430 --> 06:46.130
[SPEAKER_00]: See you next time.
