ABOUT THIS EPISODE
What if the most powerful mental health tool isn't more therapy or a smarter app — but the right skill at the right moment?
Can just ten minutes change your mental health?
The first time Benji Kaveladze came on the show, that was the question. Since then he's moved to Dartmouth's Jacobson Lab, deep in the fast-moving world of AI and mental health — and he's back to tell me what the science actually shows.
We get into Benji's crowdsourced "megastudy," where 7,500 people were each given one of 12 different 10-minute interventions — and two of them measurably reduced depression a full month later. What made those two work wasn't meditating for its own sake; it was learning one real, repeatable skill you can actually use in the moment. We also talk honestly about AI therapy chatbots — what they're good at and where they get risky — why forcing wellness on people tends to backfire, and why choice, agency, and even suffering are part of the real story of mental health.
Benji also shares 3 things to try this week.
🧠 Benji Kaveladze, PhD — Dartmouth (Jacobson Lab)
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Here are the apps mentioned in the interview:
https://soniahealth.com/
https://www.myflourish.ai/
https://www.talktoash.com/
Here is Benji's SSIs megastudy:
https://osf.io/agvh6/files/nqdte
The ones mentioned are "interactive cognitive reappraisal" and "mindful attention skills"
