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00:00:03.407Did you watch the Oscar telecast last Sunday evening?
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00:00:11.832Let's chit-chat about the Oscars, scandals, apologies, the non-apologies, and then let's compare it to the outcome.
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00:00:17.650In other words, do we think they impacted the outcome of the winners in any way?
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00:00:18.693Let's find out.
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00:00:22.466Hey there, everyone, welcome to this episode of the PR Breakdown.
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00:00:24.390I'm your host, molly McPherson.
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00:00:32.723This week, let's peel back all the layers of all the scandals, or the big ones at least.
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00:00:38.314Did the scandal make a difference in the voting and who walked off the stage with an Oscar?
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00:00:42.405Let's start off with the controversies first.
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00:00:50.808Every year, there's probably a multitude of scandals that plague the Oscars.
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00:00:56.308These are the ones that you heard about, you read about, you saw it on social media or there was a news story.
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00:00:57.679I want to get the big ones.
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00:01:05.716These are the scandals that followed the categories of best actor, best actress, best picture.
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00:01:07.239You know the names.
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00:01:10.852Let's dig into the list of scandals.
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00:01:30.266The nominees are Fernanda Torres and the resurfacing of a decades old blackface performance by the Brazilian actress that sparks significant discussion about accountability, cultural evolution and how societies address past injustices.
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00:01:41.793Now we've certainly had cases of people in the news having to apologize for blackface or close to blackface colored faces in the past.
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00:01:44.448This was big after 2020.
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00:01:49.766Top of mind I didn't research this, it's just coming to mind Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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00:01:53.941He had one, I think he was dressed like a genie for a costume party.
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00:01:56.989Also coming to mind, colleen Ballinger.
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00:01:59.554She's the YouTube creator former.
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00:02:01.745I should say she is gosh.
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00:02:03.710Is she even on YouTube anymore?
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00:02:07.804A couple of years ago she had her own scandal with other things.
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00:02:20.747I did a podcast about a couple of years ago, but one of the issues I remember is she had it wasn't blackface, but it was green, and she was supposed to be green, but she was singing all the single ladies Beyonce songs.
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00:02:21.289So you get it.
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00:02:23.257So we've been here before.
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00:02:26.361Fernanda Torres, this was Brazilian television.
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00:02:37.139If you're anything like me and you're a creature of media, you know the US has different standards when it comes to what airs on television compared to international counterparts.
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00:02:37.941So we'll say that.
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00:02:47.354But this clip originated from a 2008 comedy sketch called Fantástico, from a 2008 comedy sketch called Fantástico, and it showed her portraying a maid in blackface.
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00:02:53.901Okay, not good, not good.
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00:02:55.489This came to light shortly after her Oscar nomination, for I'm Still here.
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00:03:02.145Torres since issued a public apology, acknowledging the harm caused and emphasizing the need for ongoing conversations to combat racism.
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00:03:06.132All good the context of the apology cultural awareness.
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00:03:18.217But also at that time she had mentioned in the early 2000s Brazil had limited mainstream awareness of racist history of blackface, despite the black advocacy groups out there.
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00:03:25.674She expressed deep regret and stated that she wanted to address the issue promptly to avoid further pain.
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00:03:32.653She committed to fostering dialogue and advocating for change to combat inequality and racism.
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00:03:39.210Second nominee, mikey Madison and the intimacy coordinator backlash.
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00:04:03.888The lead actress in the film, anora, faced significant backlash for her decision not to use an intimacy coordinator during the production of the movie Anora, which, by the way, was my favorite film I was lucky enough to get screeners of a lot of these films due to my guy Greg being a member of SAG, so we spent a weekend watching all the films.
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00:04:07.114This film was by far and away my favorite.
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00:04:10.246I really liked all of them, but this one was fantastic.
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00:04:24.649If you saw the movie, there were a lot of explicit scenes, but you know already, no one really heard about intimacy coordinators before Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
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00:04:32.271And the whole ends with us brouhaha which, by the way, I'm going to South by Southwest this week.
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00:04:33.173I'm going to see.
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00:04:35.682Hopefully the schedule will work out.
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00:04:43.040I'm going to see the new movie A Simple Favor with Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively.
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00:04:44.826Would I typically see this film?
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00:04:50.961No, am I seeing it because I'm going to be at a festival that will be airing it and everyone's chit-chatting about Blake Lively.
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00:05:01.569Yes, the controversy began when Madison discussed her choice in a variety actors-on-actors interview with Pamela Anderson Gosh.
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00:05:02.610I loved her.
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00:05:05.865She wasn't nominated, but the Last Showgirl boy did.
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00:05:07.089I like that movie as well.
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00:05:15.430She explained that she and her co-star mutually decided to forego an intimacy coordinator to maintain a smaller, more intimate environment.
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00:05:22.889She emphasized that the experience was positive for her and it aligned with the director Sean Baker's focus on authenticity.
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00:05:45.971A lot of the critics argued that the decision could set a harmful precedent in the film industry, but I'm going to argue that Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively already set the precedent for just throwing the intimacy coordinator into the mix of their crisis and turning it into a thing and diminishing the importance of it.
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00:05:52.882Supporters of Madison contend that she exercised her right to make a decision about her own body and her own work environment.
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00:05:56.591They argued that since she and her co-star consented to the arrangement.
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00:05:58.824There were no issues during the filming.
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00:06:03.694And they were both young Madison she's 23, I think.
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00:06:11.411When I was watching her accept her award and when I was watching her sitting on top of her actor in the film, I'm thinking I have a daughter this age.
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00:06:18.946I don't know how I would process it if I was the parent, but I'm sure her parents were mighty pleased by the end of the night.
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00:06:22.533All right, the next nominee the Brutalist.
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00:06:29.482Nominee the Brutalist.
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00:06:30.805I found watching the Brutalist rather brutal.
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00:06:31.067It was long.
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00:06:31.548I was not into it.
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00:06:41.925And that's the problem with streamers, which Sean Baker, the director, the creator behind Anora that was his tentpole advocacy would send people back to the theaters to save independent filmmaking.
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00:06:47.927I see the argument because I would have watched it, probably been more engaged, would have liked it a lot more, but I didn't like it.
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00:06:53.690But what came out after the fact is the use of AI to refine the Hungarian accents.
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00:07:02.764That started a debate about this intersection of technology, creativity and cultural sensitivity, because, remember, we're talking about accents.
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00:07:14.591The film's editor revealed they used an AI tool to adjust the dialogue of Adrian Brody and Felicity Jones, two people who do not have Hungarian accents.
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00:07:27.963Adrian Brody, who already won an Oscar, is known for being the actor who can capture the accent, and there's no doubt without the AI enhancement, he still would have done an amazing job.
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00:07:42.725The AI was used to perfect certain vowels and letters that proved challenging when other technology was attempted, so it makes me wonder like how long has that technology been there?
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00:07:57.675Most people wouldn't know a perfect Hungarian accent, but bringing in AI for linguistic authenticity does diminish the value of that very human performance.
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00:08:05.514You can make it more accurate from a language perspective, but does the actor, the actress, deserve the award?
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00:08:07.398The next nominee?
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00:08:12.848It's Conclave versus the conservative Catholics.
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00:08:18.968As a Catholic the conservative Catholics I'm sorry they get under my skin.
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00:08:38.365As a Roman Catholic, as someone who went to Catholic schools for 16 years of Catholic schools, and I lived Catholic schools conservative Catholics just tying themselves into conservative politics and then allowing it to spill over into everyone else's lives, I have no patience for it.
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00:08:48.972A little bias, yes, but Conclave, the film found itself under fire with these conservative Catholic leaders because they branded it as anti-Catholic propaganda.
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00:08:51.413Makes me crazy even hearing it.
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00:09:05.022So the film that was directed by Edward Berger and is based on a 2016 novel by Robert Harris created a bit of a clash between artistic expression and Catholic religious values.
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00:09:06.846I thought it was fantastic.
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00:09:09.841I loved it, absolutely loved the film.
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00:09:14.405It was one of the first Oscar-nominated films that I watched before it was even nominated.
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00:09:16.875I can't get into it too much if you haven't seen it.
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00:09:29.403But it's a ideological infighting among cardinals during a fictional papal election, but ever so tightly bound closely to current events with the Pope.
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00:09:38.248That's why I'm sure Conan O'Brien probably had a whole slew of conclave jokes papal jokes ready for the go, but probably canned all of them.
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00:09:39.658He's a Catholic, an Irish Catholic.
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00:09:50.485He probably thought it would be insensitive if the current Pope, pope Francis, who now is in quote, acute respiratory failure, but they say he's alert.
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00:09:52.830But the timing it was too tight.
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00:09:57.224I think Conan O'Brien would have had a scandal on his hands if he mentioned it.
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00:10:07.221The critics are Bishop Robert Barron and Megyn Kelly, all arguing that the film distorts Catholic teaching and undermines the sanctity of the church.
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00:10:11.072I'm sorry, I just I can't stand it.
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00:10:20.841Megyn Kelly, I would assume from the name alone she grew up Catholic and it just makes me crazy that you cannot separate a film, a fictional film, from ideology.
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00:10:30.299It makes me nuts that you can't separate the artistry of a fictional film with Catholic doctrine, and I think Ralph Fiennes was fantastic in it.
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00:10:35.764Stanley Tucci I loved this movie but it was a scandal nonetheless.
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00:10:42.929The next nominee Ariana Grande, ethan Slater those two hooked up during the filming.
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00:10:45.192Both of them were with partners.
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00:10:55.279Ariana Grande played the part of Glinda or Galinda.
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00:10:56.143Ethan Slater played the role of Buck.
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00:10:59.514They weren't romantically paired in the film, but there was a romantic pairing when they were filming it.
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00:11:02.399Ethan Slater was married.
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00:11:07.907His wife, lily J, was a high school girlfriend.
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00:11:09.789They had a young son.
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00:11:10.976This was messy.
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00:11:13.706When it happened it spilled all over TikTok.
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00:11:18.331I'll link to the podcast where I discussed this affair in the show notes.
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00:11:26.216But this was sticky for Wicked, because Wicked is supposed to be this huge blockbuster of a film and it certainly was when it came out.
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00:11:29.738But they did not want any scandal touching Wicked at all.
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00:11:34.441United Artists they did a good job quashing all of this right away.
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00:11:39.945There was some residual, certainly on social media, but Ariana Grande was published and was picked up by all press.
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00:11:57.807She talked about the difficulty of adjusting to this new reality of being a single parent.
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00:12:07.256Then it segued into this media frenzy surrounding her soon-to-be former husband's relationship with Ariana Grande.
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00:12:14.480It was not a good look for the couple, but they remained silent and, as of today, it appears that they're still a couple.
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00:12:19.761Although they did not sit with each other during the broadcast, it's likely due to status.
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00:12:20.764In the film.
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00:12:27.735Ariana Grande was one of the lead actors, even though she was nominated for a supporting actress, so those two didn't sit next to each other.
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00:12:33.657Also, with Wicked Cynthia Erivo, she played the role of Elphaba.
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00:12:37.624She's the British actress of Nigerian descent.
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00:12:42.157Her backlash was not huge, but it certainly came out.
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00:12:46.666I discussed it in that aforementioned podcast.
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00:12:50.501She received a lot of backlash from resurfaced tweets.
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00:12:55.905Always, when you ever hear the word resurfaced in a crisis or scandal, it involves a tweet.
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00:12:56.648It's always a tweet.
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00:12:59.318She tweeted something in 2013.
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00:13:05.504At the time, she was getting some guff for portraying Harriet Tubman when she wasn't an American actress.
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00:13:12.405She replied in a tweet referencing quote ghetto American accent, which naturally sparked some controversy.
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00:13:17.727Revo repeatedly addressed the issue, claimed her tweets were taken out of context.
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00:13:24.668She didn't intend to mock anyone and so many people were behind her in this film that it didn't get a lot of traction.
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00:13:33.138The backlash is going to happen, but if the press doesn't pick it up, then that scandal is not going to be as big and as damaging.
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00:13:46.778Next nominee the director of the Oscar-nominated film, the Apprentice Director, ali Abassi, faced allegations of sexual misconduct stemming from an incident at the Golden Globes hosted by.
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00:13:49.261At the time, his agency, caa.
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00:13:55.870Reports indicated he was intoxicated and allegedly groped an A-list actor.
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00:13:57.879I have to look at the blind gossip.
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00:13:59.365I don't know who the A-list actor is.
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00:14:02.140A lot of the specifics of the incident have been disputed.
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00:14:05.128Abassi described it as a playful slap on the rear.
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00:14:15.264He apologized for making the actor feel uncomfortable, but other accounts suggest that the behavior was more invasive, involving inappropriate physical contact.
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00:14:25.609In the aftermath, he parted ways with his US representation at CAA and it remains unclear if he was dropped or left voluntarily.
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00:14:27.918I would assume that he was dropped.
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00:14:34.626He also ended a partnership with his PR firm and his legal representative, so that was a clear-cut cancellation.
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00:14:41.465Though he's still represented by a team in the UK, he did come out and publicly acknowledge his actions as a mistake.
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00:14:46.783He stated that he apologized immediately and learned a valuable life lesson.
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00:14:53.937But despite his efforts to control the narrative, the explanation downplays the severity of the incident.
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00:14:57.065If that were a woman, that would be a much, much bigger story.
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00:15:02.706So they just shut it down immediately and it definitely overshadowed the film the Apprentice.
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00:15:10.562During the awards season, the big nominee, amelia Perez my goodness, it became a lightning rod for controversy.
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00:15:42.144There were so many issues surrounding this film Representation of trans identity, mexican culture, the conduct of the lead actress and then the director Chiming in on the lead actress.
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00:15:48.586This film from Netflix, directed by Jacques Audidard, is a Spanish language French musical.
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00:15:51.587That follows happening, because, of course, that's what happens.
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00:15:54.669A lot of these scandals just go away to die.
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00:16:01.533But when the spotlight hits a film or a person, whatever it is, journalists and people start digging.
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00:16:03.254And this is what they found.
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00:16:08.116And this is what they found.
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00:16:09.480First there was the lead actress, carla Sophia Gascon.
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00:16:12.269She is the first openly transgender nominee for Best Actress at the Oscars.
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00:16:19.202Faced severe criticism for offensive tweets from 2020 to 2025.
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00:16:31.342Again resurfaced and they included anti-Muslim remarks, criticisms of diversity efforts at the Oscars, derogatory comments about George Floyd, black Lives Matter.
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00:16:38.211It was a mess, inexcusable, very difficult to account for.
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00:16:52.143Director called her comments inexcusable and said that they overshadowed much of the film awards campaigns, which we'd have to agree with that.
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00:16:57.541Another criticism GLAAD criticized the trans representation.
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00:17:04.638They said it was a step backward and criticized its reliance on harmful stereotypes and tropes.
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00:17:11.656So the film's portrayal of Amelia's transition as a manipulative, immoral person.
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00:17:17.648Many in the LGBTQ plus community took exception to that portrayal.
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00:17:26.858Next, there was a lot of accusations about cultural stereotyping and the casting of non-Mexican actors and crew members.
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00:17:39.734Many felt that it was evidence of cultural insensitivity, the director admitting to conducting minimal research on Mexico, which fueled the backlash.
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00:17:46.375Now let's get into the winners and see if these scandals impacted the outcome at the 2025 Academy Awards.
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00:18:00.289All right, in the category of Best Actor, adrian Brody won for the Brutalist, so his powerhouse performance, which was aided by AI, won the day.
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00:18:13.162If you watch the broadcast, you saw Adrian Brody's acceptance speech, which we are already in a scandal about AI, so you've already had an enhancement around your performance.
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00:18:16.989That wasn't a time to enhance your acceptance speech.
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00:18:18.799It was a time to diminish it.
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00:18:20.403Telling the orchestra to stop.
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00:18:21.936This isn't his first rodeo.
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00:18:25.967When the walk-off music started no, he should have walked off at that time.
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00:18:30.140The walk-off music started no, he should have walked off at that time.
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00:18:31.903All right in the best actress category, mikey Madison for Anora.
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00:18:32.804I was so excited.
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00:18:34.988She totally deserved this.
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00:18:39.563Before I saw Anora, I was all in for Demi Moore in the Substance.
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00:18:41.548I thought the Substance was incredible.
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00:18:45.461But Mikey Madison I just thought Anora was fascinating.
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00:18:57.186But part of her win, I think, was how she captured hearts and probably older male Academy voters with her very raw portrayal of a sex worker.
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00:18:59.923She showed a raw vulnerability.
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00:19:08.990So for her to choose with her co-star to not use an intimacy coordinator, I think, fits into that role.
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00:19:13.125It's as if she said, no, I stand by my artistry and this is going to be fine.
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00:19:16.240I'm glad that this scandal did not deter the voters.
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00:19:18.203The same for Best Director Sean Baker.
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00:19:20.167He won four Oscars.
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00:19:25.825I loved his speeches, that rallying cry for the communal movie-going experience.
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00:19:35.537It was so heartfelt and the anti-streaming message was a very indirect hit at an industry that really is running roughshod over Hollywood.
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00:19:40.611But Enora, mikey Sean Baker, best film.
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00:19:43.839It wasn't just a film, it was a statement and I just loved it.
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00:19:44.500I can't say enough.
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00:19:47.154Next we have best supporting actor, karen Culkin.
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00:19:49.616For Real Pain, no backlash.
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00:19:51.958The best supporting actress was Zoe Saldana.
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00:19:54.119Her acceptance speech was wonderful.
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00:20:03.704It was right on the nose for all of the controversies surrounding the film, surrounding the film.
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00:20:05.846They wanted to give it to someone.
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00:20:14.112Okay, yes, she is not of Mexican heritage, but voters likely looked at her as someone from Hispanic heritage.
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00:20:16.012She could speak the language.
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00:20:23.136She was exceptional in the role.
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00:20:25.902She had been one of these actresses who's been around now for some time and she's been in other Oscar-winning films.
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00:20:26.482It was deserving.
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00:20:36.111I think Oscar voters probably wanted to give the film something and they had to find the best person who deserved it, and that was certainly in this category Carla Sofia Gascon.
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00:20:38.037She was nominated as a lead actress.
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00:20:38.880She was in the audience.
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00:20:41.446She showed up, which you know what Good for her.
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00:20:42.796Her apology wasn't good.
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00:20:44.377She didn't really take accountability for it.
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00:20:47.981Separate from that, showing up, I think, was a good idea.
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00:20:51.646What can we take away from this breakdown?
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00:20:53.229What did we learn?
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00:20:54.691I have four thoughts.
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00:21:02.276One art versus scandal.
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00:21:10.210It's clear that, while scandals create buzz and supercharge the algorithm and fuel controversy and news stories and chatter, true artistry and compelling storytelling eventually win the day.
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00:21:16.785Many of these winners prove that, despite every PR mishap, genuine talent tends to resonate.
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00:21:20.204Two crisis as a catalyst for conversation.
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00:21:31.060Each controversy, from the outdated skits to the safety oversights to the AI, all of it sparked the conversations that need to be had about culture, respect and creative responsibility.
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00:21:38.885So, yeah, sometimes it's blown out of proportion, but it does create conversations online and subsequent news stories.
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00:21:44.704It creates that conversation where we need to have a lot of these changes from past behavior.
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00:21:49.442That is some good that can come out of crisis Because, like I said, every crisis has an opportunity.
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00:21:53.204Number three the power of a solid PR response.
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00:21:55.734In every crisis, there's a lesson in communication.
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00:22:16.778Whether it's how a director turns backlash from his actress not accepting an intimacy coordinator into a rallying cry for theaters, how actors demand to be heard into a rallying cry for theaters, how actors demand to be heard If it's an actress accepting her award and then thanking her immigrant parents and grandparents, a solid PR response and a message always wins.
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00:22:17.839And you know what?
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00:22:24.838There was one more Oscar-related scandal, and that was from Hulu, owned by ABC.
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00:22:26.342The two networks worked together.
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00:22:35.806They were streaming the Oscars and the streaming shut down as the Best Actress Oscar was being awarded.
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00:22:37.670That is a massive failure.
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00:22:42.424So they said that they were going to get to the bottom of it, but that was bad.
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00:22:45.540That's all for this week's episode of the PR Breakdown.
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