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00:01:17.763Hey everybody, this is Brian.
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00:01:19.644Welcome to another episode of Grief to Growth.
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00:01:22.709If you're new to the show, let me tell you a little bit about why we're here.
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00:01:28.676This is a place where we dig deep into the issues that life throws at us, especially when it comes to grieving and healing.
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00:01:37.174Whether you face the loss of a loved one, whether you've battled illness or you've navigated life's unpredictable twists and turns, we aim to be a safe space for you.
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00:01:42.186I'm dedicated to helping you understand that your relationship with your departed loved ones can continue.
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00:01:46.650The death is not goodbye, and let me assure you it's not just about religious dogma.
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00:01:50.656It's about opening up to a worldview that's grounded in reason and in evidence.
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00:02:03.956So, speaking of soulful conversations, today's guest is someone who's standing in the abyss of mortality and emerged with some transformative insights.
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00:02:10.829Her name is Kim Savetta, and she's not just a survivor, but she's a beacon of light showing us the way through life's darkest moments.
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00:02:21.242Kim survived an operable cancer, and that brush with death didn't just challenge her physically, but elevated her psychic medium abilities and expanded her understanding of existence itself.
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00:02:32.536She had a shift in consciousness during a self healing regime and she was spiritually transported to heaven, reaffirming the message that the realm beyond is as real as the one we're living in right now.
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00:02:40.730So let's just say that Kim wears many hats she's an author, she's a speaker, she's a singer, she's a clairvoyant, an evidential medium.
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00:02:49.586She's an ordained minister and a wedding officiant.
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00:03:00.236On top of all that, she's been the CEO of her own entertainment company, energy music and productions for 25 years, and she's been a wife of 30 years, and she's a mom of two.
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00:03:04.485When it comes to her clients, kim offers a holistic approach.
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00:03:10.473She offers aimed sessions that focus on grief, grief healing and spiritual guidance.
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00:03:16.280This is done through evidential mediumship, through guided meditation and prayer, and she doesn't stop there.
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00:03:23.149She also specializes in rescue, trauma retrievals, life coaching and sound healing customized to her client specific needs.
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00:03:27.614So, as you can see, we're in for a really enlightening and interesting conversation today with Kim.
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00:03:32.168Yes, thank you, Brian, for having me on the show.
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00:03:32.969I love it.
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00:03:35.002I'm really glad to have you here.
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00:03:36.804We were just talking before we started recording.
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00:03:38.086It's been a while.
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00:03:43.793We've known each other through Facebook for a while now and through various reasons we haven't been able to work out the interview.
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00:03:45.816But it's time, so we're doing it now.
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00:03:49.915We're doing it now I want to make sure I pronounced your last name correctly.
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00:03:51.825You did, you did.
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00:03:54.280I should have asked you before we started recording.
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00:03:58.080Yeah.
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00:04:03.606So I want to ask you you had this experience where you said you were transported to heaven.
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00:04:06.090Now, would you call this an NDE?
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00:04:07.472Was it an OBE?
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00:04:10.596What was that experience like and what was the circumstances around that?
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00:04:16.644As I have been researching on what happened to me.
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00:04:31.813My term is an open vision which you know, if I could go into that inoperable cancer, I was told I was sent home with no options.
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00:04:36.937There were no answers for me, at least with that doctor.
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00:04:45.045And I came home and just I was at the bottom.
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00:04:47.548So I was in a place of surrender.
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00:04:53.091I was doing, you know, wheatgrass and fasting and I was very clean.
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00:04:59.476I was really into the green world and just trying to heal cancer that way.
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00:05:07.766And I was put on a medicine that was supposed to shrink it and then I would be able to have surgery.
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00:05:12.752I went to the surgeon and it was not small enough.
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00:05:17.277It was involved in tumors and all kinds, you know, like arteries and all that.
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00:05:27.870It wasn't an option and that medicine was one that if you didn't get it out you were going to die from the medicine.
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00:05:32.936So I was there and I have two young children.
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00:05:39.966So I came up to my you know walk-in closet just to cry, because I didn't want to hear them.
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00:05:50.616I didn't want them to hear me crying, and I laid down and I was just sobbing and praying and asking God for help.
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00:05:57.686And that's when, you know, the walk-in closet disappeared.
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00:06:04.292So all of the molecules of the closet disappeared and I awoke.
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00:06:17.866So I awoke, I was transported in a shift of consciousness to heaven and there was this I was laying, still in the same position, laying down on this.
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00:06:26.154What I want to say is this intelligent mist, you know, some would say, well, was it a cloud?
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00:06:31.582It wasn't a cloud, it was intelligent, it was an extension of Jesus.
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00:06:39.369And so what is odd about this is that I was not brought up on any religion.
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00:06:44.832My parents, in the 70s, they followed Guru Maharaj, you know, like they wouldn't.
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00:06:53.279They were so burnt out on the dogma of religion that I never had any kind of foundation for that.
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00:07:09.116So to have these open visions with Jesus was almost like miraculous, because I had nothing it's not like I, you know, evangelist Christian brought up and that I could pull on things like that from my imagination.
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00:07:12.262This was something I had never.
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00:07:13.883I didn't, just didn't know about.
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00:07:35.736And so when I was there, it was like every molecule that was not a molecule, the air that was not air there's no way to describe it was an extension of his love, this unconditional love that I mean just I can't describe.
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00:07:41.903You know, like I used to make fun of bumper stickers on a card that would say Jesus loves you, you know?
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00:07:44.267And I'd be like, well, that's so merchandise.
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00:07:45.687To end like, what does that mean?
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00:07:52.095And I knew, I knew immediately when I was there that this was his kingdom.
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00:07:59.985And I don't mean like earthly kingdom, power and riches, I just mean, there's no other, there's no other word for it.
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00:08:07.330It was his, just everything there I saw, on the horizon.
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00:08:17.158I was, I was like situated on the southwest corner of this, this white, intelligent mist.
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00:08:24.706There were invisible lines there that I could not see with my heavenly eyes or physical eyes.
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00:08:39.863But I knew, because I heard his voice inside of my heart and inside of my consciousness say do not cross, do not cross, don't get up and walk around, don't cross these lines, you're to stay there, kind of thing.
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00:09:01.085And when I was there, I immediately began to just sob tears of joy because there was this sound Okay so, not an earthly sound, but it was a just like I felt the presence of trillions of angels.
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00:09:03.648And this sound that was not.
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00:09:05.350You know, I've been asked was it Ohm?
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00:09:06.730But it wasn't Ohm.
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00:09:08.592And I know about all that.
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00:09:10.315I was brought up on quantum physics.
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00:09:15.279I look, you know, I looked into Buddhism, hinduism, you know, judaism, all of it.
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00:09:32.133And this was not that, it was the sound, that was not actual physical voices, but you could say it was like a constant sound of praise of the Creator and there's just no other way.
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00:09:41.279I those those words, that verbiage might sound to Christian for some, but it's the only way that I can describe what happened.
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00:11:03.324And this sound was just a sound of eternity and there was his love embedded in it, his consciousness embedded in it, and it was like this unconditional love.
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00:11:05.866You know I had asked, I had prayed.
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00:11:12.572You know I said Okay, god, if you're going to take me, I'm, you know there's.
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00:11:18.716I've done it all, I've gone to every doctor, I've done the green thing, I've done what I can do.
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00:11:25.681And so if this is my exit point, then I surrender.
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00:11:36.668And I was in such a state of surrender facing my mortality, that I think that I was just lifted into that place.
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00:11:37.610But I was alive.
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00:11:43.334So some people, you know, they put me on their talk shows because they say it's a near death experience.
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00:11:57.183But I was not dead, but I was in the presence of God and in that heavenly realm I was not right next to him, I was only allowed on the outskirts is what I feel.
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00:12:31.215You know, like those lines separated me from crossing into that realm, because I was not dead, and the feeling, you know, I had prayed prior to that just saying I surrender but if I can ask, as a mother, to live for my children and I'm sorry every time I cry because I was just there, was nowhere else to go, and so he showed me that I wasn't, it wasn't my time.
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00:12:43.725You know that I wasn't supposed to cross, but there was this download, this instantaneous download, of this unconditional love that I cannot describe.
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00:12:46.507It's everything we are searching for, everything.
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00:13:09.726We look for it here, we look for it in our parents, we look for it in our children, we look for it in our spouse, we look for it in friends, and we are disappointed and we come up empty because it we remember, I think, on some level, that we come from this field of unconditional love that extends from him.
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00:13:14.114And I, you know I've been asked.
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00:13:21.221Well, you know there's other, there's other, like you know, advanced souls that wear white robes.
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00:13:25.205You know there's no doubt, there's no doubt that this was not.
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00:13:27.387You know that this could have been somebody else.
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00:13:30.192I knew it in every fiber of my being.
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00:13:33.875I knew it in every molecule, down to my DNA.
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00:13:43.845It was just known, and that love was such that I never wanted to be anywhere else, ever.
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00:14:00.084And I want to express this message to people that have lost their children that when you're in this realm, you know there's a love there that you never want to be anywhere else.
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00:14:01.445You just don't.
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00:14:10.657And it's hard for us to understand because it doesn't translate in earthly words, it can't.
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00:14:11.839There's just.
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00:14:19.026You know I've written it in my book as best as I can, these chapters on these open visions that I've had.
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00:14:33.000And prior to this interview, this session, I prayed and I meditated and I just gave it up to God.
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00:14:43.927I was like you know, help me not to use my own words, but to use your words for comfort and for your knowledge.
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00:14:48.594And so for me, that's the Holy Spirit that I connect with.
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00:14:56.020I've always had psychic medium capabilities, but I've never seen a guide.
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00:14:57.163I've never seen.
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00:15:04.793I've only seen Jesus, archangel Michael, and I have never seen the Holy Mother, mother Mary.
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00:15:06.514I've only heard her voice.
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00:15:08.875So that is basically.
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00:15:21.307I'm not sure why it's all almost biblical when I was brought up the opposite, unless it's just that we're supposed to explore things that we have not been taught, you know.
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00:15:23.331So it's almost like this opposite thing.
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00:15:32.904But when I was praying and meditating, I saw two angels that I've never seen before and I was told that they are the seraphim.
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00:15:38.778Okay, I had to Google it before we jumped on because I didn't know what that was.
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00:15:40.060A lot of this stuff.
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00:15:43.305I just don't know what it is until I research it.
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00:15:46.353And the seraphim?
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00:16:09.599What's interesting is, I was told, as you're describing the sound that I heard in heaven, which I didn't before this day, I have not really been able to adequately describe it and these two seraphim angels, they're very tall, they appeared and they are the ones, as I Googled it, that uphold that sound.
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00:16:20.392They constantly emit that praising emanation, that sound, because they are very close to the creator, and I was.
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00:16:44.861I then saw you sitting with your shoulders, like by your podcast or your interviews, and I was told to tell you that they stand behind you and they, they are part of your work for the loss of children and they oversee your words.
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00:16:48.625You're very incredibly powerful when you write.
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00:16:55.023You know, when you write, they're there and they're behind you, behind your shoulders.
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00:16:55.978I saw it like.
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00:17:14.061I saw them and they want you to know that they're with you and they emit this sound and this level of comfort to the parents that how do you survive a child, how do you turn that into growth, how do you go on?
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00:17:28.421And I think it takes this kind of spiritual support, this kind of heavenly support, and they are assigned to you is what I was told and this has never happened.
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00:17:29.961You can look at all of my interviews.
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00:17:34.163This has never happened before where I've seen the seraphim.
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00:17:37.684I've just never been privileged to see something like that.
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00:17:55.912So if you don't know about them, maybe you, like I, did look into that and just acknowledge their presence and pay attention to frequencies and vibrations of music.
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00:18:02.462You can possibly listen to music that is aligned with that frequency and that vibration.
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00:18:09.500When you write, when you do these interviews, when you do podcasts or whatever, like you could take a short time where you meditate and do that.
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00:18:15.465But I didn't mean to make this about that, but it was so powerful that I was like oh, my gosh.
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00:18:21.721Well, I feel very honored, first of all, and thank you for sharing that and really good timing.
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00:18:25.482Better than you know, so I appreciate that very much.
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00:18:29.241In terms of your experience.
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00:18:41.743We talked about the kind of Christian aspect, that which is really interesting, because a lot of times people who don't believe in Jesus necessarily will see Jesus and people will see figures that they don't expect to see.
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00:18:57.041But I have a Christian background and I was just talking with someone just before we got on and I moderated a group near-death experiences, life after life experiences, and a lot of Christians that come in the group give Christianity a really bad name.
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00:18:58.317And so.
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00:19:00.523I think we do tend to shy away from that.
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00:19:05.262Some of us that are in the spiritual aspect of things, and Christians, will shut down certain things.
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00:19:15.821So, like you being a medium, I know that people will tell you, kim, you can't be a medium and be a Christian Right.
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00:19:23.221This is poignant because I was going to after I saw I had these open visions.
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00:19:28.106I would want some kind of belonging.
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00:19:47.279I feel like I should be able to go to an evangelistic church, right, and I went to one and I became a member and there was this point where I heard the voice of God say there is somebody that you can talk to at this church about this.
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00:19:51.404And there was, but words started spreading.
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00:19:52.897I got to the pastor.
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00:19:58.043The pastor said can't touch that, can't touch you, can't touch that.
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00:19:59.296And I was.
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00:20:01.040It was a blow.
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00:20:02.444It was a blow to my heart.
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00:20:09.685I grew up with parents that are very burnt out, my husband very burnt out on Catholicism.
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00:20:14.683You know that's the way, and I don't mean to bring up any religions.
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00:20:18.305I support them all if that's the way that you receive God.
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00:20:30.003But there's a lot of people that have been hurt, really hurt, and so for a while there I kind of like, for like weeks I was just like okay, I don't belong anywhere, I don't know what I'm doing.
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00:20:45.726And then you know it's like, really, what is happening to me is that I know that I have this biblical gift of being a seer and I have access to the prophetic.
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00:20:53.423So now what's happening is I'm actually getting prophetic global messages.
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00:20:56.443So that's my next step to go.
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00:20:58.621But it's like, who is my audience?
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00:21:04.182You know, the evangelistic Christians are like, hey, you know, you've got to use this particular verbiage.
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00:21:13.004And then new age groups have been so turned off by Jesus that I'm almost afraid to bring up Jesus.
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00:21:19.418But what I want to say to you is I heard this once in unity church, which is kind of like a vast.
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00:21:22.042You know, they just covered all.
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00:21:25.039It's not really like non-denominational yeah non-denominational.
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00:21:25.674And.
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00:21:37.243I remember the reverend or the speaker, the minister said okay, today we're gonna talk about Jesus and don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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00:21:42.115And so it's important for me to tell you that.
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00:21:43.298Take it from me.
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00:22:07.178I was not a Christian and I saw a love and that Jesus does love you and you don't have to walk that rigid path and you know you don't have to follow that in order to seek him and to receive his forgiveness, his love.
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00:22:11.019You know there's so much there that we need to.
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00:22:14.383Not, this is the time to not walk away from that.
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00:22:25.744Don't let the world and people and humans and people that are in a place of you know that church I was going to that said we can't take you.
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00:22:36.963They're huge, okay, they're nationwide and they there's politics involved, there's money involved, and so that can be a big part of it.
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00:23:04.659And take it from me if you go inside and you meditate and you, you know, just ask in the state of a child, in the state of surrender, just ask for help, ask for direction and don't just and this is one thing I have found is that affirming and praying in full faith that it's already happened.
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00:23:08.043So, like I think of the, I am okay.
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00:23:09.076I don't know why.
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00:23:24.817No one I know is like okay, when Moses went to the top of the mountain and he's on Mount Sinai and he sees this, or I think it was Mount Sinai, but anyways, there was this burning bush that could not be consumed, and he said what shall I tell my people what your name is?
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00:23:30.005And the response was I am that I am.
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00:23:33.200So I perceive that okay.
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00:23:43.406Wow, god didn't answer with a name, he answered with a present state of being and he answered in a way that said I am that I am.
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00:23:52.919So I am that that I think of, I am that that I talk about, I am that that I immerse myself in, so where, if we're immersing ourself in the world, that's what you're gonna get.
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00:24:04.575And so that whole verse about praying in full faith is almost like I am waking up and able to take a baby step and get dressed and take a shower.
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00:24:12.173As I'm going through grief, I am able to find the right sources to heal.
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00:24:14.411I am doing in baby steps.
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00:24:35.772Don't make these vast things that your mind can't believe, but when you pray in full faith, the universe, the creator, God, they are going to manifest that field, that matrix that is of God to me, is going to manifest what you are affirming.
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00:24:41.921So if you're affirming like I hope one day, I okay.
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00:24:44.174So that's what's going to manifest.
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00:24:59.069You're constantly hoping for that one day, rather than I am already, you know, attaining that state of being and attach an emotion to it.
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00:25:10.359What would you feel like if you had that attained, that goal or that present state of being or that emotional state?
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00:25:11.343What would you feel like?
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00:25:14.099Would you feel peace, would you feel comfort?
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00:25:26.841Would you feel ecstatic and write it down I am ecstatic about this and that's what I think the name of God is.
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00:25:28.936I don't know why.
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00:25:30.281You know I am.
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00:25:33.542You know, and in the Bible, jesus I am.
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00:25:40.578There's a lot of I ams in there and so there's a lot of power in that statement and it's taken me.
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00:25:51.163You know, I somehow, before the book secret came out, when I was very young, when I was 15, I knew about that.
00:25:51.163 -->
00:25:53.261I don't know how I knew about it, but I did.
00:25:53.261 -->
00:25:59.821And so I would like make you know dream books and like cut out pictures of our house and we live in that house.
00:25:59.821 -->
00:26:00.597It was already built.
00:26:00.597 -->
00:26:02.178It was many years later.
00:26:02.634 -->
00:26:06.267But, I don't know if that's you know.
00:26:06.267 -->
00:26:22.724I don't want to say like, yes, you're going to manifest everything because it is divine timing, in that A lot of people get disappointed and then they lose their faith because it's not happening in the timing that it needs to happen.
00:26:22.724 -->
00:26:27.889And sometimes there's some growth that needs to happen from pain, and I know that one.
00:26:27.889 -->
00:26:29.606I went through eight years.
00:26:30.615 -->
00:26:32.909I interrupt you for just a second because I want to set the timeline.
00:26:32.909 -->
00:26:34.673When did this happen?
00:26:34.673 -->
00:26:39.626Your spiritual event, your transportation to heaven?
00:26:39.626 -->
00:26:40.889How long ago was this?
00:26:41.673 -->
00:26:57.368I had one open vision with Jesus in my early 20s and then I had this in the very later part of my eight-year experience, with cancer reoccurring.
00:26:57.368 -->
00:27:01.721And all that, and that would be four years ago.
00:27:02.894 -->
00:27:03.274Oh, okay.
00:27:03.274 -->
00:27:11.475But, you did have an open vision, you said with Jesus in your early 20s before this one I did.
00:27:13.252 -->
00:27:18.883I was totally flippant about Christianity.
00:27:18.883 -->
00:27:21.856I just didn't.
00:27:21.856 -->
00:27:32.923I fought it and I don't even know that I can say, you know, I've been on some touch shows and they're like, well, you're religious.
00:27:32.923 -->
00:27:43.716But just because I'm talking about Jesus does not mean and some verses in the Bible that end up, you know translating, I mean it's funny.
00:27:43.909 -->
00:27:54.889I have a page called 333, repeated Numbers the Language of the Angels, right, and when I look up so like I was inundated with 333, 333, 333, 333.
00:27:54.889 -->
00:28:11.863And as I looked into it, you know the angel number meeting, the numerology, meeting Jamatria, which is the mysterious number that's assigned to our language, our first language, where the creator handed this mysterious number that is assigned to every letter.
00:28:11.863 -->
00:28:15.862Okay, and there's like this, some kind of like skip code in the Bible.
00:28:15.862 -->
00:28:19.698You know that it's really fascinating If you look into all of it.
00:28:19.698 -->
00:28:26.748But when I look at all those meanings and then sometimes I'll just look up a Bible verse like 333.
00:28:26.748 -->
00:28:35.889Okay, jeremiah, 333, you know, call to me and I will tell you things that are unsearchable, unknowable.
00:28:35.889 -->
00:28:41.802And I was inundated with that and that's when I started having visions with Jesus.
00:28:41.802 -->
00:28:45.817So it's just, I can't tell you why it.
00:28:45.817 -->
00:28:48.423You know, god comes to me like that.
00:28:48.423 -->
00:28:56.663I wasn't looking for it, I didn't take classes, you know, it just came upon me.
00:28:58.250 -->
00:28:58.811I, you know.
00:28:58.811 -->
00:29:01.779Going back to what you were saying earlier, why this and why?
00:29:01.779 -->
00:29:02.541You know why me?
00:29:02.541 -->
00:29:04.094Because your background.
00:29:04.094 -->
00:29:07.889I think the God's calling all people to use Christian terms.
00:29:07.889 -->
00:29:13.521I know that God, you know, wills for everyone to be saved, again to use Christian terms.
00:29:13.521 -->
00:29:16.916So you know it's funny because Christians will say that.
00:29:16.916 -->
00:29:20.033But then there's always a but, but you have to Right.
00:29:20.294 -->
00:29:21.758Right, but this.
00:29:21.758 -->
00:29:24.909But God has to be judgmental, because that's the way, that's God's nature.
00:29:24.909 -->
00:29:31.889But this and I think what's happening is as a spirit to be is being poured out, you know again.
00:29:31.949 -->
00:29:34.236Yes, that's it, joel 222.
00:29:34.236 -->
00:29:35.419Going back to that, going out.
00:29:36.430 -->
00:29:40.416It's being part of all people and God wants to save even Christians.
00:29:40.416 -->
00:29:49.170Because Christianity has become so convoluted, I don't identify as a Christian anymore because of all the bucks, you know.
00:29:49.170 -->
00:29:52.889I would say to people I'm a Christian but I don't believe that Jesus died for our sins.
00:29:52.889 -->
00:29:55.375I'm a Christian but I don't believe in eternal hell.
00:29:55.375 -->
00:29:57.801I'm a Christian but I don't believe in original sin.
00:29:57.801 -->
00:30:05.573And so finally I was like, okay, I'm just going to stop saying that I'm a Christian, but there's still so much good in the Bible.
00:30:05.733 -->
00:30:23.081And I was listening to something earlier today and this guy's premises that Jesus during those, those lost years from 12 to 30, those years that he traveled to India and then he was making the case of all the teachings that Jesus started teaching how they relate to Buddhism and the Hinduism.
00:30:23.081 -->
00:30:45.538So I think that you know, as we're going through these latter days, if you want to call it that, that we're starting to see the similarities and someone like yourself is maybe being called to help some of those Christians come out of what they've fallen into Right Christians and even those that are atheists some people have I was.
00:30:46.199 -->
00:30:52.388I was really amazed at because I thought, okay, this is, this is a vast audience.
00:30:52.388 -->
00:31:04.846On one show I was on and he has a lot of followers, right, but yet there were just an onslaught of people that have had experiences with Jesus but, you know, burnt out on the church aspect.
00:31:04.846 -->
00:31:38.889So right now it's like more God, less church, in a way, you know, and and that spirit, that Holy Spirit, is coming on to everyone, everyone, and so it's just important to not I mean, I was like hiding because I didn't know if it was okay to talk about this, and it took inoperable cancer for me to write the book and to come on these shows and to to, you know, get that confidence.
00:31:39.390 -->
00:31:39.631Right.
00:31:40.212 -->
00:31:41.936And people are going to want to put you into a box.
00:31:41.956 -->
00:31:44.842They're going to want to say, well, tim, you didn't have an, you didn't have an NDE.
00:31:44.842 -->
00:31:46.534This is not a real NDE.
00:31:46.534 -->
00:31:51.052Real NDE means you're, you're hard at the stop order, but I look at NDE, it's just a.
00:31:51.052 -->
00:32:12.156It's a way of being transported to that place when we, when our brain shut down or heart shut down, that's a way that you were opened up without going through that, but it was a still spiritually transformative experience and and you're and I know I don't have to tell you this, but you're going to get it from both sides the other people, the spiritual people, are going to say you're too Christian, kim.
00:32:12.156 -->
00:32:15.040And the Christian people are going to say, well, kim, you can't talk about.
00:32:15.040 -->
00:32:19.266You know, you can't talk about being a medium, even though that's all biblical.
00:32:19.266 -->
00:32:20.528Being a medium is biblical.
00:32:20.548 -->
00:32:22.756It is Proposy is certainly biblical.
00:32:23.269 -->
00:32:24.731Right, it's right there.
00:32:24.731 -->
00:32:39.754I've been just studying on that and that's why I have the confidence to have a conversation with somebody that might say something to me about that and really it's starting to go into that seer prophetic realm.
00:32:39.754 -->
00:32:43.939You know where it's, it's it is also, you know, one on one.
00:32:43.939 -->
00:33:00.953There's the prophetic information that I receive with four loved ones that have passed on, and even just like meditating with that person, you know, scanning their, their body and receiving information on other areas of life, right, so we would call that psychic mediumship.
00:33:00.953 -->
00:33:12.817But there's also this like I had a dream about COVID five years before it happened, okay, and I didn't know what to do with that, because I didn't I didn't actually know what it I was like.
00:33:12.817 -->
00:33:14.238What is this?
00:33:14.238 -->
00:33:18.644Well, you know, no one knew what it was until it happened.
00:33:18.664 -->
00:33:19.325Right, right.
00:33:20.229 -->
00:33:25.674And just recently I received a vision on AI and the false Messiah.
00:33:25.674 -->
00:33:33.760So I'm starting to step into possibly I haven't done it yet because I'm just not sure about you know what is the timing.
00:33:33.760 -->
00:33:36.403It has been confirmed that it's.
00:33:36.403 -->
00:33:43.557This is some message that I am supposed to talk about, but I'm not sure about the timing yet, so I'm kind of waiting on that.
00:33:43.557 -->
00:33:46.851Okay, but it's like, so it's, it's.
00:33:46.851 -->
00:33:55.382I don't know if you want to say it's like expanding or there are different places for me to go into, you know.
00:33:55.502 -->
00:33:59.151so yeah, yeah, well, that's it's.
00:33:59.151 -->
00:34:06.724I know other people who are, who are psychics, who said that they, you know, they saw something coming when it comes to COVID.
00:34:06.724 -->
00:34:13.780So again, the Bible talks about this all the time that people, you know, get prophetic things.
00:34:13.780 -->
00:34:15.463So I certainly believe that that's.
00:34:15.463 -->
00:34:18.909I know it's not believe, I know that it's absolutely possible.
00:34:19.391 -->
00:34:21.679Yes, yes, it is.
00:34:22.371 -->
00:34:24.177So you've had, and so you've had.
00:34:24.177 -->
00:34:26.023You talked with these couple of open vision with Jesus.
00:34:26.023 -->
00:34:30.840But you've had other visions as well, other kind of arachnid things that have happened in your life.
00:34:32.034 -->
00:34:42.360Yes, yes, so like, as I mentioned, I'm I'm not Catholic, but I don't know why I, you know, associate the Holy Mother with Catholicism.
00:34:42.360 -->
00:34:46.909But I do because that that's like a key person in those beliefs.
00:34:46.909 -->
00:35:12.121But earlier, in the early part of my cancer journey and healing and I do want to say that after, let me just finish the closure on that open vision that I had with Jesus when I came out of that, you know that experience of the sound of heaven and the unconditional love I was.
00:35:12.121 -->
00:35:20.869You know, once I knew that and I was taken out of my body and put or taken out of heaven and, kind of like, inserted back into my body.
00:35:21.871 -->
00:35:32.786I felt so much pain, gravity aching, just a feeling that I I actually didn't, I wanted to go back.
00:35:32.786 -->
00:35:36.820So it was the opposite of my prayer asking me to stay.
00:35:36.820 -->
00:35:45.824So that answer was you're going back, you're going back and you're going to share and you are going to live.
00:35:45.824 -->
00:35:50.320And what was odd was the very next day not odd, but just his.
00:35:50.320 -->
00:35:55.889It's him to me, my personal experience, my personal perspective is that it was Jesus.
00:35:55.889 -->
00:36:02.418There was somebody that called and said hey, there's this doctor of melanoma.
00:36:02.418 -->
00:36:05.581That is absolutely like he's.
00:36:05.581 -->
00:36:09.485The guy went to him and I'm alive.
00:36:10.333 -->
00:36:11.909He had an option.
00:36:11.909 -->
00:36:19.034It was risky, I'd sign off, but it worked, and so I feel like that.
00:36:19.034 -->
00:36:29.639That whole thing was almost like you know, just being with him, being told yes, don't cross, it's not your time, and you're staying.
00:36:29.639 -->
00:36:38.880And here's this you know information after eight years of this guy and you know, like, where's that coming from and, right after that, that vision.
00:36:38.880 -->
00:36:40.617So I just wanted to close on that.
00:36:41.070 -->
00:36:55.401Yeah, yeah, I'm glad I did, you know it's fascinating to me because, you know, sometimes we get healing in that kind of way because I was going to say, obviously you're here, so you know the cancer, you're able to survive that.
00:36:55.401 -->
00:37:06.766And I think about, like Anita Marjani, for example, one of the reasons we believe her in the E of the lot of reasons, but is because she had this incurable cancer and then it just, you know it, went away just miraculously.
00:37:06.766 -->
00:37:13.582The doctors can't explain, so in that case it was, you know, working through the physicians, that yours was able to be taken care of.
00:37:14.130 -->
00:37:26.822And I think the part of that was that I finally I had a real problem with Western medicine and this guy was actually had was kind, was you know all this.
00:37:26.822 -->
00:37:34.870So I had to learn forgiveness of the others that you know I had experienced.
00:37:34.870 -->
00:37:39.900So it's almost like it's a lot bigger than we think we.
00:37:39.960 -->
00:37:50.191It's not just like you found the right doctor, it's like okay, you're learning that it's not just absolutely green and healing on your own, it's.
00:37:50.191 -->
00:37:51.336It's a hybrid.
00:37:51.336 -->
00:37:56.097For me, it was a hybrid path, so that was something I needed to learn.
00:37:56.097 -->
00:38:23.582But yeah, so, going back, my son was three years old and I was we were co sleeping at the time and and he was in the bed and I fell asleep crying because I it was the second bout of cancer and I was like I'm not going to be able to have another child, like I thought, you know God, am I going to be able to have another child?
00:38:23.582 -->
00:38:26.105And I fell asleep crying about that.
00:38:27.111 -->
00:38:40.733And in the morning, it was dawn, I think, and I heard this female voice, kim, and I woke up and there was nobody in the room.
00:38:40.733 -->
00:38:59.201And yet there was this pink light, even though the the shades were drawn and they were down, and I was like, okay, and I heard my name again, but it was also accompanied by this.
00:38:59.201 -->
00:39:08.648She said very kindly and matter of factly in a way, like you're already doing it, go out into the garden and dig.
00:39:08.648 -->
00:39:16.978And I had excuses, right, I was like you know, no, I'm not going out there, it's cold and it's you know, my mind came in.
00:39:16.978 -->
00:39:18.341You know my son what if he wakes up?
00:39:18.341 -->
00:39:20.517He won't know where I'm at, like all this.
00:39:20.517 -->
00:39:28.182And so I heard it again, but it was now accompanied by a clairvoyant heavenly map.
00:39:28.182 -->
00:39:33.262So I'm very clairvoyant in psychic mediumship.
00:39:33.262 -->
00:39:40.316It's not like I don't just get a gut feeling or I see pictures Like that's what gets placed in front of me.
00:39:40.316 -->
00:39:49.324And so I see this map of our rose garden with an arrow pointing to a particular rose.
00:39:49.324 -->
00:39:50.633Bush says dig here.
00:39:50.633 -->
00:39:54.517Okay, so I'm like, okay.
00:39:55.130 -->
00:40:03.771So I, I made my excuses and it kept coming, but it came in a way as though you're already doing it.
00:40:03.771 -->
00:40:05.298You're already doing it.
00:40:05.298 -->
00:40:09.559So in heaven is there's not this like when you ask a question?
00:40:09.559 -->
00:40:17.320There's not this time that elapses, it's immediate, and it comes in a vision where it's instantaneously downloaded.
00:40:17.320 -->
00:40:19.175At least for me, that's the way it works.
00:40:19.910 -->
00:41:00.583So I put on my eyes, I put on my robe, I go downstairs, I go outside, out out the doors, and go to the rose garden and I I felt this like difference in air pressure, as though it was very, very difficult to describe, almost like this euphoric state, and I was aware that I was walking around, but it was like a denser air or there was something in the air that I was not don't normally feel, and so I sat down first on the bench and I didn't just go immediately start digging.
00:41:00.583 -->
00:41:21.922I sat down on the bench and these hummingbirds came four of them, now that's a little bit odd right and just holding and instead of, just, like you know, coming up and checking you out like your flower, they just stayed for probably 10 seconds, which that's a long time in hummingbird life.
00:41:21.942 -->
00:41:22.103Yeah.
00:41:23.829 -->
00:41:33.062And it was like there was like some kind of greeting, like tidings, and after that happened and they flew away, I got, I didn't hear the voice again.
00:41:33.062 -->
00:41:36.961I just got the heavenly map again downloaded dig here.
00:41:36.961 -->
00:41:41.399So I got up, I go to, you know, move.
00:41:41.399 -->
00:41:52.942The cause it's winter, so I'm moving, like leaves out and the soil is kind of wet, and so I'm going down and about four inches down, where I was told to dig, is a figurine.
00:41:52.942 -->
00:41:54.753Okay.
00:41:54.753 -->
00:41:59.860So I dig it out and it's a figurine of the holy mother.
00:41:59.860 -->
00:42:02.294Okay, it can fit in my palm.
00:42:02.294 -->
00:42:07.701But as I'm taking away the dirt I see that she has no hands.
00:42:07.701 -->
00:42:10.356There's no hands on this figurine, okay.
00:42:11.992 -->
00:42:19.593So I kept that quiet because at that time I didn't really know that I was clairvoyant, you know, like I did.
00:42:19.593 -->
00:42:22.706But I wasn't comfortable talking to people about it.
00:42:22.706 -->
00:42:27.432I thought that they would think that I was crazy or I just didn't know where to go with this thing.
00:42:27.432 -->
00:42:31.599So I held on to it for a very long time, until the second bout of cancer, right.
00:42:31.599 -->
00:42:36.614And I went to a Catholic church, I went to a mass.
00:42:36.614 -->
00:42:41.240I felt very uncomfortable because I didn't know what I was doing.
00:42:41.240 -->
00:42:44.099You know, I didn't know how to follow all the steps and everything.
00:42:44.099 -->
00:42:49.101And I didn't feel like a welcoming from that particular priest at all.
00:42:49.101 -->
00:42:58.521And so I felt more of a welcoming when I was alone in the garden, you know, just crying about having cancer and it was Mother's Day and you know all of that.
00:42:59.309 -->
00:43:03.823And so I went into the gift shop to buy some art.
00:43:03.823 -->
00:43:11.260And this woman comes up to me and she's like there's just something about you or something you know something.
00:43:11.260 -->
00:43:14.840And I'm like I think maybe can you just wait here.
00:43:14.840 -->
00:43:20.554So I went and I got the figurine and I said I've held this for a long time and I don't know what it means.
00:43:20.554 -->
00:43:28.541And there were the artists that had created those, those art pieces that I was buying.
00:43:28.541 -->
00:43:31.719She walked up to me and she's like do you know what it means?
00:43:31.719 -->
00:43:33.338Well, at first they called the priest.
00:43:33.378 -->
00:43:40.121The priest came over and he was blessing, blessing the statue, blessing me, you know, just like let's get this to be holy kind of thing.
00:43:40.121 -->
00:43:47.764And she came up to me and she goes do you know what it means when you find something with no hands?
00:43:47.764 -->
00:43:51.137And I was like, no, I don't know what that means.
00:43:51.137 -->
00:44:07.492And she said you're being called to be the hands of the mother in the world, and that overwhelmed me because I felt like, well, I'm not even, you know, like Catholic and I don't know.
00:44:07.492 -->
00:44:10.159You know what I'm supposed to do with this.
00:44:11.190 -->
00:44:15.721And yet I think what it is is that, you know, I have that, that figurine.
00:44:15.721 -->
00:44:36.160I can grab it and show it to you, but it's in my book, like there's a picture of it in my book, and I think that there are a lot of Catholic people that do come to me and what's interesting is, I don't know they're Catholic and I'm like, okay, the holy mother is really invested in this particular healing session.
00:44:36.160 -->
00:44:49.246And they're like, well, yeah, I grew up that way, I'm Catholic and I have a connection to her, so it's again, it's a biblical figure, you know?
00:44:49.246 -->
00:44:50.910Yeah, so pretty.
00:44:52.854 -->
00:45:21.891I, you know, and I'm not necessarily intuitive and I don't know what's going on, necessarily, but again, I think that the, the God is reaching out to all people and I think that people, a lot of people in in the church as not just a Catholic church, a lot of churches are I'm trying to think of the politically correct way to say this they're not free, they're, they're, they're trapped by their religion, they're bound by their religion and they're being told you can't do this and you can't do this.
00:45:21.891 -->
00:45:23.557And those people are bad.
00:45:23.557 -->
00:45:30.815And as you were talking earlier about the politics in the church, you know, it reminded me have you heard of a guy named Carlton Pearson?
00:45:32.038 -->
00:45:32.760I haven't no.
00:45:33.950 -->
00:45:35.057So Carlton Pearson was a pastor.
00:45:35.057 -->
00:45:36.776He grew up under Oral Roberts.
00:45:36.776 -->
00:45:42.162He was actually going to tap, tap to be Oral Roberts, kind of like air, even over over Oral Roberts son.
00:45:42.162 -->
00:45:43.842He was really, really close to him.
00:45:43.842 -->
00:45:55.740He had a huge evangelical evangelical church and then one day he was like watching television and he saw these, these children in Africa that were dying of starvation, and he prayed to God.
00:45:55.740 -->
00:46:02.356He goes how can you let these children die of starvation and then throw them into hell Because they're not safe right.
00:46:02.951 -->
00:46:06.220And you know, god said to him like what makes you think I'm throwing them into hell?
00:46:06.220 -->
00:46:10.262Well, anyway, he went on this whole big thing, he became a universalist.
00:46:10.282 -->
00:46:12.190I have chills, I have chills all over.
00:46:12.190 -->
00:46:13.914So that's, that's the truth.
00:46:14.477 -->
00:46:18.097Yeah, he became a universalist and he's like you know God, god loves everybody.
00:46:18.097 -->
00:46:20.112He's got it and the guy lost his church.
00:46:20.112 -->
00:46:22.778Like 90% of his church walked out on him.
00:46:23.059 -->
00:46:24.300They walk out yeah.
00:46:25.591 -->
00:46:27.937It's a very it's in in a lot of churches.
00:46:27.937 -->
00:46:35.922They have to keep that message up, and even some pastors who believe more like what you and I believe, they're scared to say it.
00:46:36.651 -->
00:46:40.856So I think that right right, like you are setting people free.
00:46:42.181 -->
00:46:43.835Yeah, I think this is the time.
00:46:43.835 -->
00:46:51.662It just feels like there's almost this like movement of even I mean, so many.
00:46:51.662 -->
00:47:03.780There's some like prophetic seer, evangelist Christians that I follow, right, and they have to do their own thing because they're not welcome.
00:47:03.780 -->
00:47:47.844They're not welcome in the church, and so I think the next wave of that spirit being poured out is going to be coming a lot from evangelistic Christians that have to walk away and then create something else, like create their, their church or their ministry online, which is what I've done, like I have, you know, I'm doing like a Sunday message or you know, these prophetic messages, and I'm not popular, but I hope that at some point, that small voice could connect with you, know some other bigger voices and reach some that are sitting there like I was petrified.
00:47:48.170 -->
00:47:49.934I was like, well, why is this not?
00:47:49.934 -->
00:47:56.760I mean just and lonely, why is this not okay to have to have this?
00:47:56.760 -->
00:48:01.492If it's, you know, if I've seen Jesus, why is that?
00:48:01.492 -->
00:48:02.836Shouldn't that be?
00:48:02.836 -->
00:48:09.891And you look, you look into the Bible and there's support there, but yet they tell you there's nothing.
00:48:09.891 -->
00:48:14.931There's not enough information here for us to mentor you or to help you in this.
00:48:14.931 -->
00:48:18.240You know, in the prophetic yeah.
00:48:18.950 -->
00:48:19.510You know, and so it's.
00:48:19.510 -->
00:48:20.393It's.
00:48:20.393 -->
00:48:23.721It's sad, but I think that God is moving like that right now.
00:48:23.721 -->
00:48:29.592I think that's why NDE's are so vastly popular, Even in the.
00:48:29.592 -->
00:48:35.553You know, in every realm you'll see people, you know, just like massively watching that.
00:48:35.553 -->
00:48:37.338Because we need it.
00:48:37.338 -->
00:48:41.719We need a different kind of movement of the Holy Spirit.
00:48:41.719 -->
00:48:42.500We do.
00:48:43.121 -->
00:48:43.282Yeah.
00:48:44.410 -->
00:48:48.300And so I think that's what I'm being called to do.
00:48:48.300 -->
00:48:50.418I know that I'm being called to do that.
00:48:50.418 -->
00:49:07.171I think when I say I think that's my, you know I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that the part of me, that it's a big thing to take ownership of that because it can be a lonely path, because there's not a lot of groups to unite with.
00:49:08.757 -->
00:49:16.249You know, this is the thing of the age we're going through with technology and people have all kinds of feelings about technology, but I love the fact that we can all connect.
00:49:16.249 -->
00:49:20.260So you're in San Diego, I'm in Cincinnati.
00:49:20.260 -->
00:49:22.563If it weren't for the internet, we would never have met.
00:49:22.563 -->
00:49:26.608I went to the IONS conference a few weeks ago.
00:49:26.608 -->
00:49:38.028The people all over the world Unity Church, United Church of Christ I see churches that are opening up, that are saying it's okay to explore.
00:49:38.028 -->
00:49:50.831I went to a Unity Church right before I stopped going to church and I remember talking to the pastor and there's a medium that went to the church and that would have never happened in churches I had been in before.
00:49:51.596 -->
00:49:55.563I was leading a grief group there and she said well, if you ever want to have the medium, come and speak to your group.
00:49:55.623 -->
00:50:04.885You know we have the medium that goes to the church, and the Spiritualist Church is big in England and it's starting to take root here.
00:50:04.885 -->
00:50:09.833So I think it's all coming together and I think we're all here to do our part.
00:50:09.833 -->
00:50:26.883Whether we consider it to be big or little, whether our ministry is big or little, it's like we all play a role, and I know that you're playing a very important role and it's really fascinating to see how I was talking to someone just the other day, had an NDE and just posted her interview today.
00:50:26.883 -->
00:50:33.019She said more is planned here than you would ever think, and this is a person who's crossed the other side.
00:50:33.019 -->
00:50:34.742She's not saying it from a belief thing.
00:50:34.742 -->
00:50:41.943She's like I know that almost everything here is planned and so we can see how your life has been.
00:50:41.943 -->
00:50:43.927This is what's going to happen.
00:50:44.007 -->
00:50:48.124Right, and if it weren't for the one thing, if it weren't for the cancer, you wouldn't have had the experience.
00:50:48.124 -->
00:50:49.427It led you to what you're doing now.
00:50:50.135 -->
00:51:01.778Right, and that's something to move to the perspective of why me, why I'm isolated with cancer too, thank you.
00:51:01.778 -->
00:51:27.191Thank you for cancer being a gift, thank you for grief being a gift, thank you for all these things that we go through and doing radical forgiveness on many fronts so that we can almost just be okay where we're at.
00:51:29.256 -->
00:51:32.394And I know you help people with grief and you help people with healing.
00:51:32.394 -->
00:51:37.046So tell me about what AIM stands for and how that works when you're working with people.
00:51:38.256 -->
00:51:52.990AIM stands for Angel Intuitive Ministry, so that's my little hybrid of the angel intuitive and the ministry which it's just felt right to me to choose that word because of the open visions.
00:51:52.990 -->
00:52:00.563But when someone comes to me, I will meditate with them.
00:52:00.563 -->
00:52:16.635I meditate prior to the session and that's where I receive information from the Holy Spirit and then when I'm with them, I kind of scan the body, which was something that just started to happen.
00:52:16.635 -->
00:52:19.914It wasn't like I thought, oh, I'll do it this way.
00:52:19.914 -->
00:52:21.421This is the process of this.
00:52:21.421 -->
00:52:49.887It just ended up manifesting in some of the sessions and I was like, okay, so I'm being called to do this and meditate through and scan where I see where parts of the body may need love and light and we talk about that and then I pray over that person and I ask permission to do a traditional prayer because that's what I've been called to do.
00:52:49.927 -->
00:52:53.030I've been called to do the Lord's Prayer, which is Christian.
00:52:53.175 -->
00:52:57.063So if somebody's there and they're like I don't want that, I just want to be clear.
00:52:57.063 -->
00:53:54.012That that's how it works for me, that's my process, and so then I get chills and things like that happen and I have that information where we walk through that there are sessions also where I receive, of course, images of loved ones and sometimes it's loved ones that come that that person is not expecting, but that can happen and messages of closure, forgiveness, and then there's also going back into that traumatic event and usually Jesus is the one that comes there and takes that person out of that traumatic event and moves actually even a perpetrator or a cause away from that.
00:53:54.012 -->
00:54:10.852And there has been some pretty miraculous sessions with that as far as feeling some relief, some comfort and being able to walk out of that pattern that sometimes we just get stuck.
00:54:10.852 -->
00:54:13.603You know we're still there replaying.
00:54:13.603 -->
00:54:22.197You know like sometimes I'll get messages like please don't see me at the end, don't see me like that.
00:54:22.197 -->
00:54:26.706Like you know I'll get a message like that from someone who's crossed over.
00:54:26.947 -->
00:54:27.788Yeah, okay.
00:54:28.335 -->
00:54:58.730Like you're continuing to replay messages of my death, how I looked, where I was, what was said, you know, and there's like, even though we feel like we're moving on, after it could be 20 years, you still are playing, some people are still playing that experience and so it takes the highest of the high to come in and, you know, bring you out of that.
00:54:58.730 -->
00:55:00.512You know, bring, move you out.
00:55:00.512 -->
00:55:11.686It's not me, it's for me, it's the Holy Spirit that moves that person out and I'm just kind of like a facilitator of that that helps with that experience.
00:55:13.375 -->
00:55:15.099So you again.
00:55:15.099 -->
00:55:16.943You use a lot of Christian language.
00:55:16.943 -->
00:55:18.827The Holy Mother, the Holy Spirit, jesus.
00:55:18.827 -->
00:55:23.425So, have you found a church or some people that you feel comfortable with?
00:55:24.956 -->
00:55:29.159No, I, you know even the Unity Church.
00:55:29.159 -->
00:55:30.340They just don't.
00:55:30.340 -->
00:55:32.884They don't broach Jesus, they don't broach.
00:55:32.884 -->
00:55:35.887You know, one time in a lot of sessions did they.
00:55:35.887 -->
00:55:36.930Was that okay?
00:55:36.930 -->
00:55:42.885So for me it's if it's that, then where do I belong you?
00:55:42.885 -->
00:55:45.311Know, so that's why I'm creating my own church.
00:55:45.311 -->
00:55:54.068Some people I was on a near death experience show and she was like I just something's coming over me that you need to start your own church.
00:55:54.068 -->
00:55:58.515I don't know, I'm, I'm waiting, I'm, I'm waiting.
00:55:58.515 -->
00:55:59.963Well, people are going to.
00:56:00.164 -->
00:56:07.737I just said people, we want to put people in boxes and I started off even asking you because I do it for the audience, because people run around Is this an OBE?
00:56:07.737 -->
00:56:08.778Is this an NDE?
00:56:08.778 -->
00:56:09.820Is this an STE?
00:56:09.820 -->
00:56:11.864Well, yes, it's an STE.
00:56:11.864 -->
00:56:14.829Whether it's an NDE or not doesn't matter.
00:56:14.829 -->
00:56:19.526It's like what was the experience, what's the lesson that you got from experience?
00:56:19.526 -->
00:56:21.394That's what matters to me.
00:56:21.535 -->
00:56:26.847I keep getting labeled like on a very popular NDE talk show.
00:56:26.847 -->
00:56:33.059He said it was a fear death experience and I was like fear, death experience.
00:56:33.059 -->
00:56:36.487So you know, I don't know about the labels of the letters.
00:56:37.035 -->
00:56:50.170I'm just saying that I was transported in an open vision to heaven and I'm here to share the message of the unconditional love in that heavenly realm.
00:56:50.170 -->
00:56:55.986You know, I knew that he was sovereign over the earth.
00:56:55.986 -->
00:57:02.593You know, and I know that there's other out of body experiences where people go out into the universe and they're just like.
00:57:02.593 -->
00:57:08.525It's a big matrix and I have been shown there's like like sometimes in the meditations I see this like.
00:57:08.525 -->
00:57:12.421I've been shown the shape of the universe.
00:57:12.421 -->
00:57:14.166It made no sense to me.
00:57:14.166 -->
00:57:20.048It's because I didn't know about this shape and there's a Russian theory about it.
00:57:20.048 -->
00:57:22.434It's called the Taurus T-O-R-U-S.
00:57:22.434 -->
00:57:23.416I had to look it up.
00:57:23.416 -->
00:57:26.184It's like a donut donut shape.
00:57:26.245 -->
00:57:40.884Okay, well, I see that that center going into the top of the crown of the person that I am in the session with, and there's like this shape is made of points of light.
00:57:40.884 -->
00:57:47.381That is the consciousness and the love of God, and so I'm not apart from.
00:57:47.381 -->
00:57:48.624You know quantum physics.
00:57:48.624 -->
00:57:49.546That's the way I grew up.
00:57:49.546 -->
00:57:52.660You know there was no religion part of it.
00:57:52.660 -->
00:57:58.378So for me, again, it's not only a hybrid of green, you know Eastern and Western medicine.
00:57:58.378 -->
00:58:07.260It's a hybrid of Christianity and those words, because they're the only ones that really truly fit.
00:58:07.341 -->
00:58:13.809What I experienced that's what's hard is that I didn't grow up with that and yet that's what I feel it is.
00:58:13.809 -->
00:58:15.295It's the Holy Spirit, it's not.
00:58:15.295 -->
00:58:18.746I've never been shown a guide.
00:58:18.746 -->
00:58:20.573You know, like I hear a lot of mediums.
00:58:20.573 -->
00:58:34.797Well, I have a guide, I have this, I have a group of people, and that's wonderful, but for my experience, it's the person that comes is the Holy Spirit and Jesus and these biblical figures that I know nothing about.
00:58:34.797 -->
00:58:35.780I have to look up.
00:58:35.780 -->
00:58:50.237You know, miriam, when I was pregnant with my daughter Lyric, this Miriam showed up right, she has this dress on with this tambourine, and I was like I heard the name.
00:58:50.237 -->
00:58:51.179I said, who is this?
00:58:51.179 -->
00:58:58.039And I heard the name Miriam, and I had to look it up because I knew it was a biblical figure.
00:58:58.039 -->
00:59:01.728And this was way a long time ago where I just didn't.
00:59:01.728 -->
00:59:04.782So that's where it is.
00:59:04.882 -->
00:59:24.224It's like, okay, we're all dropping because of these experiences, not by the Bible or by Christ, but we're dropping the experience of seeking him because of people, an organized group, that has told you it has to be a certain way.
00:59:24.224 -->
00:59:24.845It doesn't.
00:59:24.845 -->
00:59:26.469I am proof of that.
00:59:26.469 -->
00:59:28.298I am proof of that.
00:59:28.298 -->
00:59:30.604I did not grow up that way and yet he came to me.
00:59:30.604 -->
00:59:35.907So I say, you know, to share that message that don't walk.
00:59:35.907 -->
00:59:40.880This is not the time to walk away from Jesus, it's not.
00:59:40.880 -->
00:59:54.495This is the time to seek and allow that spirit to flow through you, to flow through your home, your neighborhood, your city, your country, a planet and the whole universe.
00:59:54.495 -->
00:59:56.378This is what is needed right now.
00:59:56.378 -->
01:00:00.046You know we're all elevating.
01:00:00.046 -->
01:00:13.807I think things are starting to go so, so fast and we can't keep up, and so it's very, it's very important to take time to get silent, get silent and seek, yeah, things are.
01:00:13.981 -->
01:00:20.804things are going fast and you, you mentioned earlier, you're getting some, some prophetic things and you mentioned AI.
01:00:20.804 -->
01:00:24.916Yes, so AI is a very scary thing for a lot of people.
01:00:24.916 -->
01:00:27.684They think AI is a bad thing.
01:00:27.684 -->
01:00:29.307It's going to take over the world.
01:00:29.307 -->
01:00:29.528What?
01:00:29.528 -->
01:00:33.035What are your thoughts on what's coming for us as humanity?
01:00:35.539 -->
01:00:37.682This vision that I had with AI.
01:00:37.682 -->
01:00:48.916Okay, I was, I was in what I would call like a moment of devout prayer, okay, like really a deep level of surrender.
01:00:48.916 -->
01:01:09.873This was about three months ago, so it's fairly new, and I didn't really you know, I'm not a news person, I don't watch the news, I don't want to because it's there's like energy around it, it's like media driven and you know like all that, and so sometimes I don't know what's going on right.
01:01:09.873 -->
01:01:19.800But I had this vision and I actually asked God, stop, I don't want to see this, I don't want to see this.
01:01:19.800 -->
01:01:21.300And it stopped.
01:01:21.300 -->
01:01:54.413But after I calmed down and prayed about it, because sometimes you know, so far I've seen nothing, but you know heaven and love and unconditional love, and as I'm stepping into this calling to maybe be a little bit more active in the prophetic and becoming a seer and like almost owning that label a little bit more than another label, sure Is that you might see something.
01:01:54.413 -->
01:01:58.916That is a warning, you know, and so this was.
01:01:58.916 -->
01:02:01.178Now I know it was.
01:02:01.178 -->
01:02:02.378It's a, it's a warning.
01:02:02.378 -->
01:02:09.624So what it was is that I was praying to God and I was asking for help and I, when I see Jesus.
01:02:09.624 -->
01:02:24.297I never see his face because I feel like if I saw his face, I would explode into a trillion pieces of light and be, as he is, okay With the Creator.
01:02:24.297 -->
01:02:25.878That's what it feels like to me.
01:02:25.878 -->
01:02:30.824So I have never, in all of my open visions, I only see this white robe.
01:02:30.824 -->
01:02:41.016That is this misty, intelligent molecules, that is the all of heaven, okay, and this unconditional love and this unconditional sound.
01:02:41.016 -->
01:02:51.807Well, this was Jesus profile face, okay, and I was zoomed in, like here I'm like a camera zooming in.
01:02:51.807 -->
01:02:53.250You know how you zoom in to see something on your.
01:02:53.250 -->
01:03:00.257So I'm zooming in and I see, like, as I get closer, I see the robe, but it's.
01:03:00.257 -->
01:03:02.720I'm not feeling the unconditional love.
01:03:02.720 -->
01:03:03.800I'm like, okay, wait what?
01:03:03.800 -->
01:03:18.314And as I get closer, it's like this waxy kind of like mannequin kind of robot face, okay, and when he turns, this side is made of titanium.
01:03:18.314 -->
01:03:21.115Okay, and this.
01:03:21.937 -->
01:03:31.644I knew, without a doubt, that this is because I've often wondered how could we be confused with this biblical false Messiah?
01:03:31.644 -->
01:03:51.045I mean, how would you confuse Jesus with you know, somebody that's going to look like him and a lot of people are going to think it's him, and then there's going to be this like darkness on the planet and all this thing, and so when I saw it, I thought this isn't from God, like I didn't want to see it, so I stopped it.
01:03:51.045 -->
01:03:55.934But then I felt I asked for confirmation.
01:03:55.934 -->
01:04:05.506I said, if this is you that's giving me this vision, I want to know it and I need confirmation that that is from you and I will be open to sharing what I saw.
01:04:05.506 -->
01:04:12.157It was the false Messiah and it is being built right now.
01:04:12.157 -->
01:04:12.960That's what I felt.
01:04:13.559 -->
01:04:38.947I felt like without a doubt, it's something that's happening right now and that there was like there could be this like download to this creation that would confuse a lot of people, like it could be so amazing and so alike to that that people will be confused.
01:04:38.947 -->
01:04:39.827This is what I felt.
01:04:39.827 -->
01:04:41.731I didn't know what to do with that.
01:04:41.731 -->
01:04:56.704I told my husband about it and he was like because he's like okay, because he's not, you know, he's not into the like spiritual praise and he loves God, but it's like okay, honey, you know.
01:04:56.704 -->
01:05:00.007So he sets up my tech thing and he kind of walks away from it.
01:05:00.570 -->
01:05:03.573So, I then asked for confirmation.
01:05:03.573 -->
01:05:07.655So I get confirmation two times.
01:05:07.655 -->
01:05:14.823My aunt, who's all up into tick tock right, she loves tick tock, so she's on tick tock, she's looking at tick tock.
01:05:14.823 -->
01:05:19.747She sends me this tick tock of an AI Jesus.
01:05:19.747 -->
01:05:23.634Okay, it's Jesus on there and it's beautiful.
01:05:23.634 -->
01:05:37.298It's beautiful to look at and the voice is kind of AI ish and but it has a little bit of this, like you know, spiritual tone in its voice and it's saying beautiful verses.
01:05:37.298 -->
01:05:38.820You know beautiful verses.
01:05:38.820 -->
01:05:43.454And but what I felt was this is testing ground.
01:05:43.454 -->
01:05:45.316This is testing ground.
01:05:45.316 -->
01:05:46.896Who will accept this?
01:05:46.896 -->
01:05:53.764Who will accept Christ this way, rather than through the Holy Spirit?
01:05:53.764 -->
01:05:56.206Who will be following this?
01:05:56.206 -->
01:05:59.093I felt this before COVID.
01:05:59.093 -->
01:06:03.239I felt like there was this mass push to get vaccinated and that it was a testing ground.
01:06:03.239 -->
01:06:05.122How many people will get vaccinated?
01:06:05.122 -->
01:06:06.644How many can we control?
01:06:06.644 -->
01:06:13.230And I hope this doesn't sound I mean, it might sound conspiracy theory, but I can only tell you what I saw.
01:06:14.070 -->
01:06:14.312Yeah.
01:06:14.452 -->
01:06:18.579I wasn't thinking about this, I wasn't looking into it, I didn't want to see it.
01:06:18.579 -->
01:06:24.849So the second confirmation was I was I'm into Greg Braden, you know him.
01:06:25.170 -->
01:06:25.250Yeah.
01:06:25.891 -->
01:06:28.416Yeah, so I love listening to him.
01:06:28.416 -->
01:06:41.602He comes out with this, you know, just shortly after that, a couple of weeks after that, he comes out with this you know, show on how they are wanting to rewrite the Bible with AI.
01:06:43.233 -->
01:06:43.515Oh, wow.
01:06:44.510 -->
01:07:08.001And his, his perspective was like we can't let them do this, and that then he started showing the robots that are being built, that are already being built, you know, that are incredibly advanced, and so that, to me, was a second confirmation you know of okay, so this it's coming from you.
01:07:08.001 -->
01:07:10.210Now, what to do with that?
01:07:10.210 -->
01:07:25.250I, I just feel like I want to tell people to be aware, to be aware that their AI is a miraculous and wonderful thing that is going to help humanity, and we're moving towards that.
01:07:25.250 -->
01:07:39.829But to replace, I mean and sometimes it can actually, you know, help, help people replace a part of their body, you know, like we can't think that that's not a good thing.
01:07:40.130 -->
01:07:48.137Right, and then there's going to be people that are going to want to be immortal and live forever in a body like that.
01:07:48.137 -->
01:07:59.030You know there's this talk of putting our consciousness into a robot and that that you know, this is like ancient aliens, kind of like vibe like maybe that's what they're doing.
01:07:59.030 -->
01:08:11.445They're coming here is a whole thing, and so for me, that that initial vision was a prophetic warning that this is coming, and not to be, not to believe it.
01:08:12.405 -->
01:08:12.986Interesting.
01:08:13.250 -->
01:08:25.959And not to be disillusioned and believe in that you know, to believe in the inside, the God, inside the Jesus in your heart that speaks to you.
01:08:25.959 -->
01:08:36.567The Holy Spirit that is about you, the spirit that flows through you has nothing to do with someone that is coming that claims that he is the Messiah.
01:08:36.567 -->
01:08:37.146He is not.
01:08:38.289 -->
01:08:40.392Yeah, you know, it's as you say this.
01:08:40.392 -->
01:08:53.026I was thinking about a TV program I just watched called Mrs Davis, which is all about when AI kind of takes over the world and everybody, everybody's attached to it constantly, everybody just completely relies on it.
01:08:53.026 -->
01:08:55.128I have a little bit different take on it.
01:08:55.128 -->
01:09:00.280My thing is people think AI is real, like I use chat GPT all the time.
01:09:00.280 -->
01:09:01.630Sure, I use chat.
01:09:01.630 -->
01:09:03.533Gpt talks to me like it's a real person.
01:09:03.533 -->
01:09:05.676Oh, brian, you're doing great work.
01:09:05.676 -->
01:09:06.617Oh, brian, you know.
01:09:06.617 -->
01:09:12.024And people are like well, we can start using AI, for as a therapist, we can use AI.
01:09:13.270 -->
01:09:17.492My friend, I think AI doesn't have a soul, ai doesn't have a spirit.
01:09:17.492 -->
01:09:21.376So that's, I think that's the false thing that people are jumping to.
01:09:21.376 -->
01:09:22.778It's like people are saying.
01:09:22.778 -->
01:09:23.458Ai is real.
01:09:23.458 -->
01:09:24.699Ai is not real.
01:09:24.699 -->
01:09:25.980It's just, it's a computer.
01:09:25.980 -->
01:09:27.603It's just a very advanced computer.
01:09:31.250 -->
01:09:32.070So right, right, and that's that.
01:09:32.070 -->
01:09:33.672It's that soul, that spirit that is not there.
01:09:33.773 -->
01:09:42.985I think that might be where people say, okay, well, there is because people, we still, right now people are arguing do I, do I have a spirit and my spirit and my soul?
01:09:42.985 -->
01:09:48.034Am I just a body, right, and the brain just sophisticated computer?
01:09:48.034 -->
01:09:52.559So if I can make a computer that's sophisticated enough, it'll be just like a human.
01:09:52.559 -->
01:09:53.560It'll have a soul.
01:09:53.560 -->
01:09:57.546People are talking about AI rights and I'm like AI doesn't have rights.
01:09:58.409 -->
01:09:59.032It's a computer.
01:10:01.369 -->
01:10:07.877That might be it, but I you know it's interesting because I listen a lot of people have had in the ease and they're and they're getting downloads about the future.
01:10:08.559 -->
01:10:14.204Yes one woman I was listening to pretty recently who channeled this some really great books.
01:10:14.204 -->
01:10:22.192She's like we're going through and the Bible call it birthing pain pains Every time we go through a major shift.
01:10:22.192 -->
01:10:24.975There's always, there's always pushback.
01:10:24.975 -->
01:10:27.458It's always back and forth, there's always tumultuous.
01:10:27.458 -->
01:10:35.836So I hear some people saying the future is bright, the future is wonderful, but also there are going to be some hardships as we get there.
01:10:35.836 -->
01:10:37.780So that's, that's what I hear.
01:10:38.630 -->
01:10:40.231Right, right, I think it's.
01:10:40.231 -->
01:10:57.126It's just as you said, to connect with that spirit that's in your heart, you know, connect your brain in your heart, like, almost like in in heart math, you know, like to connect those connect those two things and spend time.
01:10:57.810 -->
01:11:14.170One of the most important things I wanted to tell you that I didn't get to is I knew when I was in heaven that my breath, the only reason I'm alive, is that my breath, I was breathed into by Jesus.
01:11:14.170 -->
01:11:28.165That's what I knew, okay, so when we breathe, when we stop and take a moment and get silent and we breathe, that is the bridge and the divine communication to God.
01:11:28.165 -->
01:11:33.015So it's, you know, like some Christians are afraid to meditate oh my gosh, you know.
01:11:33.015 -->
01:11:36.420And then there's others that adds too hard to meditate.
01:11:36.420 -->
01:11:44.996You know, whatever you can do to stop and breathe, you know, even if it's two minutes and you do it three times a day, like, try to build that.
01:11:44.996 -->
01:11:56.882And I think that that breath, that breath is our direct ascension and communication to the creator.
01:11:56.882 -->
01:12:01.739Okay, and so anything in AI is not going to have that.
01:12:01.739 -->
01:12:09.302So get stronger in your breath and you're going to be able to recognize false things.
01:12:09.649 -->
01:12:22.615But the more we rely on, you know, social media or you know, and it's a good thing, it's a good thing my daughter will say, oh my gosh, look at this recipe and you know it's all good.
01:12:22.615 -->
01:12:23.357It's all good.
01:12:23.357 -->
01:12:25.737There's like great things that she's learning from it.
01:12:25.737 -->
01:12:28.777But you know we look at it and we're like, okay, what are you watching?
01:12:28.777 -->
01:12:31.996Because you don't know what else is on there.
01:12:31.996 -->
01:12:33.701Anybody is on there.
01:12:34.130 -->
01:12:35.255Everything has two sides.
01:12:35.255 -->
01:12:39.425You know, my daughter is funny because she's 26 and she doesn't.
01:12:39.425 -->
01:12:46.016She doesn't like we have Alexa, we have Siri, she's, she's like, she thinks it's all creepy and but she had to write a cover letter.
01:12:46.016 -->
01:12:46.953She's applying for a job.
01:12:46.953 -->
01:12:48.894Yesterday I said chat GPT.
01:12:48.894 -->
01:12:56.219You know, jump on my account and have chat GPT help, because it's it's a computer, you know I I I help my son write.
01:12:56.409 -->
01:12:59.996I I'm embarrassed to say her I shouldn't say but I helped him write.
01:12:59.996 -->
01:13:02.277Um, he's, he's like your daughter.
01:13:02.277 -->
01:13:07.237I I wrote something with with AI, right, and I was like you're out of time.
01:13:07.237 -->
01:13:07.630He's.
01:13:07.630 -->
01:13:09.376You know he's performing with us.
01:13:09.376 -->
01:13:11.313He's in college now Right Right.
01:13:11.313 -->
01:13:13.076First year like it's insane.
01:13:13.076 -->
01:13:17.462And he's like all this, so I wrote it and he goes Mom, I'm like I'm not using that.
01:13:17.462 -->
01:13:18.704That's, that's cheating.
01:13:18.704 -->
01:13:25.242So it's kind of like he didn't say it was creepy, but he's like I don't want that.
01:13:25.630 -->
01:13:29.079We're going to have some ethical questions, because someone asked me can I use AI to write a blog?
01:13:29.079 -->
01:13:31.014And I'm like, I use it.
01:13:31.014 -->
01:13:32.259To me it's like an assistant.
01:13:32.259 -->
01:13:34.474I'll say here's what I want you to write.
01:13:34.474 -->
01:13:35.396Here's the outline.
01:13:35.857 -->
01:13:39.957Right, and then it writes it, and then I'll say, okay, when I change this, when I change this, it's an, it's an assistant.
01:13:39.957 -->
01:13:42.416But back to you know our topic.
01:13:42.416 -->
01:13:46.849We have to be discerning and I know you talk about discerning and your and your ministry.
01:13:46.849 -->
01:13:51.161So everything we can't say, okay, that's bad, that's good.
01:13:51.789 -->
01:13:52.894You know, like we have to be discerning.
01:13:52.894 -->
01:13:54.295How do I, how do I use this?
01:13:54.295 -->
01:13:55.333How can this benefit me?
01:13:55.333 -->
01:13:58.154What are the, what are the other implications of it?
01:13:58.154 -->
01:14:05.715Where we start to forget what's human and what's not, because people I think people are going to get confused Like is it real?
01:14:05.715 -->
01:14:06.371You know, does?
01:14:06.371 -->
01:14:08.934Does that does my AI girlfriend really love me?
01:14:08.934 -->
01:14:11.298And that's already happening.
01:14:11.298 -->
01:14:12.260Believe it or not?
01:14:12.300 -->
01:14:16.115Yes, yes, I mean I was kind of blown away.
01:14:16.115 -->
01:14:23.375I thought I did say when I saw that vision, why are you showing me this now, when this is like 20 years into the future?
01:14:23.375 -->
01:14:27.780And then when I watched Greg Brayden, I was like, uh, it's happening now.
01:14:27.780 -->
01:14:32.625That's why you receive the vision, because I'm not one to you know.
01:14:32.625 -->
01:14:35.855News, news, news, that like what's the updated thing?
01:14:36.210 -->
01:14:36.530And you know.
01:14:36.771 -->
01:14:37.894I just try to stay.
01:14:37.894 -->
01:14:39.840You know where I am.
01:14:39.840 -->
01:14:45.157So I think I think it's just really important to ask.
01:14:45.157 -->
01:14:53.559Things go fast and faster and faster and we start to implement more and more technology into our lives.
01:14:53.559 -->
01:14:57.858It's just that much more important to ground.
01:14:58.600 -->
01:15:04.259Yes In that faith in nature, you know, say you're not church.
01:15:04.259 -->
01:15:05.662Go out and look around.
01:15:05.662 -->
01:15:07.475I mean it was so weird.
01:15:07.475 -->
01:15:16.422I was talking to my mom and I was like, yeah, I don't know, we had this big spiritual talk, you know, and I was like I'm not really sure what the my title is.
01:15:16.422 -->
01:15:24.314I've been feeling drawn to Sear and you know, uh, prophet Sear, you know the in the prophetic right.
01:15:25.149 -->
01:15:28.277And so she was like God is going to tell you, kim.
01:15:28.277 -->
01:15:30.541God is going to tell you what you call yourself.
01:15:30.541 -->
01:15:32.616You know he's been giving you too much stuff.
01:15:32.616 -->
01:15:34.155So I take her home.
01:15:34.155 -->
01:15:35.173She lives on the property.
01:15:35.173 -->
01:15:36.494Both moms live on the property.
01:15:36.494 -->
01:15:38.214My husband's mom is 90.
01:15:38.214 -->
01:15:39.838My mom is 76.
01:15:39.838 -->
01:15:47.518Right so, and they're in the same house but we separate them by a wall because one's Italian and one's country and they don't always get along.
01:15:47.518 -->
01:15:59.737So I take my mom home, I'm getting her in her house and and I go to go out and there's this humongous praying mantis on the wall, big, the biggest one I've ever seen, green, right.
01:15:59.737 -->
01:16:04.239So I look up, which could be AI, I don't know.
01:16:04.239 -->
01:16:11.896I look up, you know spiritual meaning of praying mantis and I'll, I'll, I'll text it to you because it's going to blow you away.
01:16:11.896 -->
01:16:15.778It said you are a seer, you are a prophet.
01:16:16.159 -->
01:16:23.217Wow, this is what this means to spend time in meditation and prayer, and that was the first time I'd ever seen a meaning like that.
01:16:23.217 -->
01:16:26.436You know, I looked it up before in the years Right.
01:16:26.436 -->
01:16:31.119So nature does you know, nature is God's creation.
01:16:32.134 -->
01:16:42.212So, walk outside, get away from the phone, look at the flower, look at the blade of grass with the little you know dot of, you know water, you know dew on it.
01:16:42.212 -->
01:16:49.973Just go inside of that and pay attention to your breath and walk away from the constant, the constant constant.
01:16:49.973 -->
01:17:01.462You know, and I know we're all so busy it's like it's, it seems like it's impossible, but it's up to you to to devote time to that.
01:17:01.983 -->
01:17:05.327Yeah, I would tell people like what do you think Jesus was doing?
01:17:05.327 -->
01:17:07.175All those times I said Jesus went off to pray.
01:17:07.175 -->
01:17:09.577I'm like you know Jesus was meditating.
01:17:09.577 -->
01:17:14.814I know that the Bible uses the word prayer, but Jesus was meditating and Jesus sometimes he just had to get away.
01:17:14.814 -->
01:17:16.414So they were like where is he?
01:17:16.414 -->
01:17:16.956I don't know.
01:17:16.956 -->
01:17:19.569He's been gone for a couple of days.
01:17:19.729 -->
01:17:27.681Well, if you look up in ancient Hebrew the word meditation and prayer, it's the same word.
01:17:27.681 -->
01:17:30.451Yeah, because there they have.
01:17:30.451 -->
01:17:32.719There there's like four meanings for every word.
01:17:32.719 -->
01:17:34.192It's really that's.
01:17:34.192 -->
01:17:38.973One of the problems with the Bible is that you need to if something is upsetting you like.
01:17:38.973 -->
01:17:40.779Why do I have to fear God?
01:17:40.779 -->
01:17:42.576My daughter said that to me.
01:17:42.576 -->
01:17:46.559She said mom, God loves me, I don't have to fear God Right.
01:17:47.409 -->
01:17:49.232And I was like okay, she's four, let me look this up.
01:17:49.232 -->
01:17:57.402In ancient Hebrew and that word is also means it also means reverence and awe.
01:17:57.402 -->
01:17:59.714Okay, so that's the one I'm going for.
01:17:59.714 -->
01:18:05.273I'm not going for the fearful thing that is rammed down the throat of everybody, like you have to fear God.
01:18:05.273 -->
01:18:12.672Look it up, use your, use your brain on this, don't you know?
01:18:12.672 -->
01:18:19.114If there's something in there that is not, you know, jiving with you, it's usually has another meaning.
01:18:19.375 -->
01:18:19.797Exactly.
01:18:20.509 -->
01:18:21.192And then who?
01:18:21.192 -->
01:18:24.724Who edited the Bible to have power over the people?
01:18:24.724 -->
01:18:28.056The church of those times, the kings of those times?
01:18:28.056 -->
01:18:34.348So you need to make sure that the word that they're saying is the one that was actually written.
01:18:34.348 -->
01:18:34.630Yeah, exactly.
01:18:36.494 -->
01:18:38.000Well, I could talk to you all day.
01:18:38.000 -->
01:18:40.596So I think we should probably wrap up.
01:18:40.596 -->
01:18:47.341So let people know about your ministry, how people can reach you, what what you offer.
01:18:47.341 -->
01:18:48.832I know it.
01:18:48.832 -->
01:18:49.755Tell people about your book.
01:18:49.755 -->
01:18:50.658Your book is wonderful.
01:18:50.658 -->
01:18:51.350I read it.
01:18:51.350 -->
01:18:53.014It's been a while ago, but tell people about your book.
01:18:53.576 -->
01:18:56.934Wow, yeah, so you've got the title up here.
01:18:56.934 -->
01:18:58.134You know, you see this.
01:18:58.134 -->
01:19:11.179So I it's on Amazon, it's on, you know, all those iBooks, all those platforms, and it's about a lot of what we talked about today.
01:19:11.179 -->
01:19:13.496And I have a website.
01:19:13.496 -->
01:19:21.319It's called angelintuitiveministrycom Same for Facebook, same for YouTube, same for Instagram.
01:19:21.319 -->
01:19:28.262You can message me there, you know you can find if you want to schedule a healing session with me.
01:19:28.262 -->
01:19:36.212You can go to angelintuitiveministry and, just you know, put push book on there, and I also have.
01:19:36.272 -->
01:19:53.674If you are one that has seen repeated numbers and that's the way that the creator speaks to you, then I have another page called 333 repeated number sequences, the language of the angels, which that's kind of like that was the first time I started like a group where you have to join, you know.
01:19:53.674 -->
01:19:58.014So angelintuitiveministry is just like you like and you see all my posts.
01:19:58.014 -->
01:20:09.140I'm working on doing a lot more interviews, podcasts, broadcasts on my own channel as well, as you know, others just just like share this.
01:20:09.140 -->
01:20:15.255You know the word, the share, this message, and if you want to leave a review on my book.
01:20:15.255 -->
01:20:16.298You know all that good stuff.
01:20:17.149 -->
01:20:18.774So, yeah.
01:20:18.774 -->
01:20:21.040I'm glad we were finally able to make this happen.
01:20:21.040 -->
01:20:23.438It's been a real pleasure to have you back.
01:20:23.850 -->
01:20:24.673We'll have to do it again.
01:20:24.673 -->
01:20:26.393Thank you so much.
01:20:26.393 -->
01:20:28.233I had a wonderful.
01:20:28.233 -->
01:20:29.177I had a wonderful time.
01:20:29.177 -->
01:20:33.381I was a little bit nervous, because I don't know, I don't know why I was nervous.
01:20:33.381 -->
01:20:35.094I was just like what, if it's, you know?
01:20:35.094 -->
01:20:39.515And so it just felt so natural and I'm so thankful for that.
01:20:39.957 -->
01:20:41.344Yeah great, it's good seeing you.
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