Godzilla vs Kong and Bad Batch S3 Ep 8 and 9

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You know, it wasn't as bad as I like remembered it, but it still wasn't great by any means.
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It's just hard to follow up the perfection that is King of the Monsters.
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That is a unique take.
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I think for most people.
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It's okay.
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It's okay for most people to be wrong.
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It's okay for me and a select elite to be correct.
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Star Wars, Transformers, Godzilla, Animation, whatever else.
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Frembles, robots, and etc.
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Well, it is Thursday night because we had to move podcasting, but Cameron and Rachel are hanging out yet again, which still means that it's Star Formers Zillamation night.
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What?
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I'm sorry, not to like pause.
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Did you move that?
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The gray ball that's on the ground?
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No, I don't think so.
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That just came rolling out from underneath the table.
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Oh, it got ghosts in the apartment.
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This is going to become a ghost hunting podcast.
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What was that?
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Spirits.
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Audio only.
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This is not a ghost hunting podcast.
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This is Rebels and Robots and Rawr.
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Episode 51.
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I'm Cameron.
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I'm Rachel.
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This is our weekly chat about Star Wars and Transformers, etc.
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Well, and Godzilla and Animation and whatever else we both like to talk about.
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Whatever the heck we want.
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That's also ranged from the Australian 80s band Men at Work.
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I didn't think of For Every Man at Work reference we had on this podcast.
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Kung Fu Panda, various other animation things.
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An unofficial topic of this podcast.
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We don't talk about it, but it just gets a reference a bunch of Spongebob almost every episode.
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So get out either your bingo sheet or your drinking game sheet.
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Get ready.
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And have poison control on speed dial if you do the drinking game.
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Rachel's cat Athena, which is also our editor, who's sitting very close this week.
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Except for she's facing away from us.
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She doesn't want to be directly referenced.
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She has swivel ears.
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She's fine.
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That's true.
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This week, our main topic is Kong vs.
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Godzilla, part of Monmarch Madness.
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We are drawing to the conclusion here next week, we will be talking about the whole reason
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we've been wanting talking about these movies, which is because Godzilla X Kong, the new
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combination of Godzilla and monkey.
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Monkey.
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That will come out next week.
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There'll be a new release.
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We're excited to see and talk about that.
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But also we are in the middle of bad barge badness.
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We are covering weekly new episodes of Bad Batch, Star Wars Bad Batch.
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That is we've got two new episodes to talk about with that.
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For the first time ever, we will be talking about a comic book on the podcast because
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Rachel read a thing and wants to talk about it.
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A month ago.
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Yeah, we should have talked about it.
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It's a prequel comic to Godzilla King of Monsters.
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So we should have talked about that day.
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Did you just kind of forget or did you just never see a good opening that episode?
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We talked so much with Bailey.
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Yeah.
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And then we talked so much about Kung Fu Panda 4.
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And I was like, we just don't have, don't got the time.
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But I'm excited to talk about it.
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It is an interesting comic book.
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I read it all today on my phone.
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Totally legally.
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So before we get to today's topics, however, we always talk about recent news, recent thoughts,
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anything that's happened since the last time we recorded.
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Rachel, what do you got for us?
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I think there's two things I wanted to, well, not correct, but I did have an update slash
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correction.
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I think it's very important for our listeners to know I'm actually on season 18 of Law & Order
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SPU.
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No, no.
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See, this is the anti, what I just talked about, things we're both interested in.
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I am not interested as for you.
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You don't care about special victims.
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No, no, I don't care about the special victims unit specifically.
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I don't want to talk about them.
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What news do you have, Rachel?
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The big one.
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Acolyte.
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Oh, Acolyte trailer.
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We got the Acolyte trailer.
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Yeah, I actually totally forgot that that happened since last time we recorded.
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You were the one that texted me.
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I forgot.
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So Star Wars Acolyte is the next live action Star Wars show.
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June 4th.
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It is set a little over 100 years before episode one in the High Republic era.
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So it's not quite Old Republic.
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I mean, it's a number of years.
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It's still High Republic.
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Yeah, but like the waning High Republic.
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The Old Republic, very well regarded video game series.
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So it's like 3000 years.
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And that was when the Sith were very abundant.
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And this is the opposite.
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This is when the Sith were thought to be totally extinct right before episode one.
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And something has arrived, something with a red lightsaber, whether it's a Sith or not.
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I mean, Acolyte implies that it's someone more similar to a Saw of Interest or...
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There are dark side users that aren't Sith.
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There's been a lot of discussion of the rule of two.
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It's breaking canon.
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I mean, there are a lot more dark force users than just Sith.
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I mean, even an example would be Balin and Shin.
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Yes.
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They're not Grey Jedi.
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Yes.
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But they are force users.
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They're dark.
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It's kind of like there are also Sith cults, but they aren't Sith.
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They're just followers of the Sith.
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So it could be something like that.
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So something, but... So it's a very short trailer.
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I'm excited.
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I think it'll be interesting to see how it goes.
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According to the Hollywood Reporter, the Acolyte did not use the volume at all during filming.
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Interesting.
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Which...
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Yeah, from the trailer, it looked like a lot of real sets,
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which if you're not very well accustomed to certain kind of genre filmmaking can feel very fake.
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To me, it felt stylized and felt real.
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Like, yes, sets can feel a little bit like a set.
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It can look like, oh, this looks like a movie set.
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But to me...
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Unless it's Andor and it's perfect.
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But to me, these sets just felt very genre accurate.
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It feels...
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I think for my big takeaway that I was not expecting from this trailer is it's very 70s Kung Fu film inspired.
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It is.
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It's very...
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And I love that idea.
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Back to the roots.
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I think that's an incredible direction to go with Star Wars,
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to have all these Jedi doing kicks and flips and not just lightsaber,
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but hand-to-hand combat with your characters on wires.
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Like, that's something force users should be doing.
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So I think that...
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And that then influences the rest of the directing style.
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You know, it's very...
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And that's not necessarily martial arts per se,
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but it gets kind of the samurai inspiration of Star Wars.
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And that's very, I think, parallel.
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Star Wars being campy since when?
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I think this trailer looks like it's going in a very interesting direction.
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It has an interesting cast.
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Not a lot of people I know, but it just...
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I'm good with that though.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I love fresh faces.
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The one well-known face in this is Carrie Ann Moss,
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Carrie Ann Moss, who's most famous for being Trinity in The Matrix,
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which is also one of my favorite movies called Memento.
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Phenomenal actress. And that link to The Matrix is a really cool thing,
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because that's obviously one of the most famous
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kung fu, martial arts, science fiction films ever.
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And so I think that's a good idea to draw parallels to that.
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Now, you're putting yourself up against a very high bar,
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but if you can rise up against that bar,
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did you have a big overall out takeaway
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other than the martial arts element of this trailer?
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It looks fun. I think the costumes look really interesting.
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We get to see some more aliens, which is always fun.
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So we get to see Jedi Wookie, which we've seen before with Gungi.
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But that's fun to see.
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Uh-oh. Is that my laptop?
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So I get a call. I did not mute my laptop.
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I apologize.
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Disgusting!
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But so I think. Sorry.
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Oh, good. What are you doing right now?
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I was trying to find something, but I don't know if we'll find it.
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So anyways, it's exciting.
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I think there's also, it'll also be interesting to see how
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the books tie into it.
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There's been a lot of high republic books.
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And I've already seen, which I have not read and I don't own,
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but we're working on it.
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Those books are new and they're like $40.
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And so I've seen some people who pointed out,
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like there are some book characters in it.
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For example, one of the book characters
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has a purple lightsaber, but it's a whip.
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Yeah, I heard about this.
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Lots of excitement about that.
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Seeing that in live action, things like that.
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So that'll be kind of fun.
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Yeah. Speaking of which, one of the, I immediately recognize,
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I don't know necessarily if it's a character that I've seen from images
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from the high republic era, but it's this very particular Jedi robe.
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Do you know what I'm talking about with the white, with the like,
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more of a cape?
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This guy right here at the beginning of the trailer.
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It's not like the biggest.
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Do you know what it is?
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I'm realizing.
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She looked up to see.
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Okay, Athena, our editor, you can see.
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There you go. It's pretty much, it's a white version of what Luke wore
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at the start of episode six with the, with, because he never had a robe.
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He had like a cape with a hood that like draped over his shoulders.
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And it's very similar to that, but it looks so good in the white.
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It's such a clean classic look.
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Cause I think one of the biggest problems with the prequel era Jedi
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is they all look too much like Obi-Wan.
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They're pretty much all modeled after what Obi-Wan was wearing in the desert
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in new hope, which is, and then by extension, what Yoda is wearing on Dagobah.
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And I just, I think you can, I think you can do whatever you want, obviously.
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And there's a logic to having the Jedi all dress alike, but aesthetically
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character wise, you want some variation.
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And so this, this keeps that same robe look, but just, you know, it makes it
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makes it feel like a different era.
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It makes this at least this one particular character have his own unique look.
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It matches.
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It makes it feel like it really matches the martial arts approach they're going for.
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So yeah, excited about that.
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The other, I think the one of the biggest, what's the word I'm looking for?
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Like things that are making people mad about this trailer controversies is that
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there's been a lot of talk about who is the good guy.
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And while I don't think you can accurately portray a Sith character, but that's the
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thing, it's people keep assuming red lightsaber must be a Sith.
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It's not, it's an acolyte.
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An acolyte is a very conflicted character because they're not full on Sith.
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And I think the side of interest is an incredible example of this.
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And I think you also have, I think of the woman from Visions volume two, who had the
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red and yellow lightsaber.
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She was also very conflicted.
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So, and also though you explore, why would someone not want to be a Jedi?
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Which has been a huge element, especially of like Anakin's story.
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I like the idea of this prequel to the prequels further more elaborating on what
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the prequels kind of set up, which is the fact that the Jedi themselves were not all
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that great.
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The light side of the force is pure, but the Jedi are not necessarily pure.
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I always, I can see why people get that reading from the prequels, but also it also
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sometimes doesn't feel fully intentional.
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It feels like sometimes Lucas is criticizing the Jedi and sometimes he's just not
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writing them super well.
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He's really just criticizing George Bush, right?
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Kind of, I've heard conflicting things on that.
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Yeah, he's a very political writer.
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He's criticizing.
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It's sometimes hard to fully pin down his, because the original movies are very much
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clear allegory.
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The prequels are a little less clear.
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Sometimes it kind of just feels like he wrote the Jedi poorly and made them feel
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stupid on accident.
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Are we the baddies?
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Yeah.
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So all that to say people really hate the idea of, you know, the
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idea of Jedi good Sith bad being muddled at all.
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I wish the new trilogy had pushed farther into this episode nine, ultimately further
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reinforces the dichotomy.
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I am, I mean, I'm all for the classic.
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I don't criticize the original movies for having such a clear good and bad dichotomy.
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I think it's hard when there's so much emphasis on balance, balance to the force,
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things like that.
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But people, people are messy.
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So the Jedi are messy, especially after thousands of years of no one, no competition.
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It's impossible for there to be full black and whiteness.
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There's a lot of, yeah, people are messy.
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And Anakin, like people flip-flop our favorite characters, Kylo Ren, Anakin, they
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flip-flop back and forth.
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Ezra.
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Exactly.
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100%.
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Maul, Maul's another one who kind of goes from being full on Sith to kind of act light
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esque.
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Creepy uncle.
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Yeah.
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All this to say, I think the trailer is setting up some very interesting ideas, interesting
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concepts, interesting style.
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I was already intrigued by it just because I didn't know very much about it.
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It was dealing, I knew it was dealing with new characters in a new era.
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Now exponentially more excited because I've actually seen something.
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One thing that's also interesting is that has, if you don't know, it's a little bit
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different, if you don't know, I collect some of the black series figures that Hasbro has
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for Star Wars and Star Wars, Hasbro put on preorder five of the main characters from
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this show already, which is, they don't typically do.
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And so they did a Jedi Master Soul, who I believe we see in that first scene with the
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aliens, Jedi Master Indara and then also our Jedi Knight, Yord Fandar.
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And then they actually released a Padawan, Jackie Lawn, which is fun.
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But the assassin that we see in the trailer, May, I do actually recognize her actress that
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if you've seen Hunger Games, she's cool.
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Yeah.
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Yes, yes.
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So that's kind of fun.
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I mean, I haven't really seen, I don't know how much I've seen her in anything else, but
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yeah, I'm excited.
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I'm intrigued.
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I did not do the preorder on the, on the, on the Acolyte figures just because I want
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to see the show first.
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Yeah.
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But I did do a preorder for the Jedi Fallen Order three pack with Inquisitor Cal Kestis.
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Very nice.
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That's I'm going to forget and then be really shocked when it ships in two months and charges
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my card, which is always fun.
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Well, in other news, this is a piece of real world news that influences Transformers.
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Chevy has officially disconnected, actually happened back in December, Chevy has discontinued
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the Camaro, which theoretically probably means that, okay.
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So, okay.
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So the reason this is relevant.
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There's either a new Transformers film coming out.
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Different Chevy vehicle.
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Yeah.
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Bumblebee in live action movies apart for one film is a Camaro.
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He's, he initially started off as a 70s Camaro, very quickly became the new Camaro,
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was the new Camaro through the remainder of the Bay verse movies.
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And ever since then, he's essentially been a Camaro in any.
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Oh, even outside of that.
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Oh, I didn't know that.
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That's interesting.
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The movies really influence a lot of things.
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Maybe except for the comics, he's not.
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And so, and then in the Bumblebee film, he is his classic VW bug for most of the film,
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but then he becomes a classic Camaro at the end.
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I saw one of those around town the other day, like yellow and beat up.
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Funny.
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That's great.
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I love that.
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And then in the newest film that came out a year ago, he's still the, it takes place
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in the nineties and he's still the classic Camaro.
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The nineties. So the question is if the next film is still set in the past,
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which will theoretically be the G.I. Joe Transformers crossover movie.
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Transformers four or Transformers one.
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Well, okay.
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Next live action movie.
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Yeah.
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That one said on Cybertron.
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So that's kind of not relevant to this topic.
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There's no Camaro's on.
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Why they turn into cars still is a question, but.
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They got roads up there.
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So in the next film, if it's still set in the past, will it be, will he still be the
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classic Camaro or because it has been discontinued, will he be a different car?
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And whenever they do eventually make another Transformers set in the modern or future,
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what will he be?
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Will he?
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So I think it raises an interesting question.
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A very similar body type of Dodge Challenger.
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Yeah, that's a good question.
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Will he be what he's going to be?
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That's a good question. Will he be whatever Chevy releases to replace the Camaro or will
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he just be it?
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I would imagine this will be a this a bidding thing.
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It's like continuing the Camaro, but we're going to release the new Camaro.
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The Chevy Bumblebee.
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I think this will just be they will just open up the slot and whoever wants to pay the most
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money with the coolest car in that slot will probably get it.
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It's like it's like it's a key of soul.
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Because the question is like why was he a Camaro in the first place?
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Cameron just like totally talked over what funny.
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Why is it funny?
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Little hamster cube car.
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I don't.
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Can you imagine if that if like a key of soul?
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That's the whole joke is that if they if they yeah, that's why I said cool car.
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They would want something cool.
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They try doing something like that with the the twins in Revenge of the Fallen and it
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really didn't work very well.
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Are they key of souls?
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I don't know about they're not key of soul specifically, but like similar ask sort of
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street cars, which I always contend is what Transformers should be,
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but that's not what they're doing.
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Robots in the skies picks the most high end vehicles that everyone looks at when they drive by.
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That's my last little bit of news.
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What else you got?
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That's also the last bit of news that I have, but I did have some thoughts from last week.
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Okay.
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It hit me actually like the day after we were or two weeks ago, technically.
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So we were talking about Kung Fu Panda 4 just a little bit.
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And we talked about how we were like they really snuck in an instrumental version of
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crazy train into the film and we were just talking about like wow how that's just so
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it's not it was fine.
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It wasn't a complaint for us, but we were just like wow that's so funny that they did that.
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That that's funny.
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And we talked about that as if completely forgetting about the fact that the villain
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from Kung Fu Panda 3 Kai, his theme is literally an Imagine Dragons song.
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I did not know that.
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You did not know that.
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I did not know that.
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Oh my gosh.
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So Kai's theme is an instrumental riff of Imagine Dragons.
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I'm so sorry.
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Interesting.
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Do you do I need to prove it to you?
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I believe you.
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I just didn't.
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I need to prove it to you.
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Do I need to prove it to the listeners?
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I think that so the last time we so we started uploading on YouTube and they
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do have a chance of getting copyright struck.
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I'm not going to hum it.
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It is look it up.
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There's probably comparison.
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Honestly, it's actually such his theme is such a banger.
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So it works.
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I'm pretty sure Imagine Dragons is credited in the credits somewhere of that movie.
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But yeah, so I just thought that was funny.
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My other thought was after thinking more on Kung Fu Panda 4 because what else do I
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do in my spare time? We talked a little bit about the dynamic of his dad of Mr.
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Ping and Lee, Poe's dad.
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And one thing I kind of realized was that there was a big change from Lee,
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his panda dad from three to four because he was never that brave in three at all.
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If you'd taken like because he was trying to discourage Poe to fight Kai in the
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third movie, like he would he essentially was a coward.
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Sure.
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Based off the fact of he lost his wife, lost his son, you know, things like that.
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So we kind of get to see because in the was it the Happy Bunny Tavern or something?
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Shaq Shanti.
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I don't know.
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That's a song.
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Sorry.
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Lee pretends to be the dragon warrior or he pretends to be a warrior like Poe.
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And he would have never done that in a previous film, but we get to see how Poe taught him to.
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So I don't know. I just thought that was kind of fun.
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Yeah, I totally agree.
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There was we missed this also.
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Okay.
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Moving on. This is not from Kung Fu Panda 4.
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So if you have something.
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No, I got another.
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We missed an animation error in Bad Batch episode seven.
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Oh, so it's it's a wide shot and it's probably fixed at this point.
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I don't know, but I have the screenshot, so therefore I can.
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It got the receipts.
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So it is the scene where Wolf recognizes Rex and it's placed enough that I didn't recognize it.
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Look between Rex's sorry, Wolf's right arm and his leg.
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This is a floating clone helmet.
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That's great.
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I love it.
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Where the body did not render in.
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And so I saw this joke about it.
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It says error CT 404 not found.
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CT is clone trooper.
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That's good.
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I wish I could take credit for that.
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Good.
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I love it.
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Couldn't.
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So.
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Yeah, I just I was surprised it didn't catch it, but it is what it is.
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So good stuff.
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And we're going to talk about this soon, but I thought this is funny because Kiner Music.
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Posted this last week.
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No context about Bad Batch.
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Uh huh.
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Yeah, it is.
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Is it?
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I don't know what movie this is from.
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Wait, is that from.
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It's name is on Prime Show.
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It has Brendan Fraser in it.
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Doom Squad.
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Well, that's on a prime show.
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That's like an HP.
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It's a DC comic show.
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OK, well, I got it right.
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The Doom Patrol.
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Oh, yeah.
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Is it the robot man?
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yes, that is from Doom Patrol.
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Yes.
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It's a scene of an alligator jumping at that character.
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It's just no context, but hashtag the Bad Batch.
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So anyways, that was that was funny.
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Good stuff.
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Are we ready to talk about Bad Batch?
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That's all I got.
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So we have two episodes, three of season three, episode eight and nine, episode eight called
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The Bad Territory.
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They pretty much just go Gator Hutton.
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They go to space, Florida.
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I don't remember a single thing that happened this episode.
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So we watched it a week ago is why.
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Apparently they go to talk to Finn.
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No, Finn Rao is a different character.
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Finn Rao is a different character.
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I love him.
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Finnick Shan.
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That's what it is.
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Who at this point is most famous for being the woman, the bounty hunter that Boba Fett
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saved and made his right hand woman in the Boba Fett show.
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After Mando shot her and left her for dead.
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Narkter.
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So they're trying to figure out what is an M count because they don't know.
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We know that's a midichlorian count, but the boys do not.
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And so they go to Finnick Shan and she asks, you know, tells them what it's going to.
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She's like, what do you have in exchange?
499
00:25:33,620 --> 00:25:35,780
And, you know, they say in terms of money, we have no money.
500
00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:42,020
So they get pulled into a side quest.
501
00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:44,580
It was a fun episode, though.
502
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:48,180
I heard a lot of people complaining that it was too dark to see, but I didn't have that.
503
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:49,300
We didn't have that problem.
504
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,260
But so they kind of get pulled into a side quest.
505
00:25:52,260 --> 00:25:55,300
I don't really know.
506
00:25:55,300 --> 00:26:01,300
And so they go into the swamp of some planet.
507
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:05,300
So they.
508
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:07,300
I'm just going to keep going.
509
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,580
So fun note here.
510
00:26:08,580 --> 00:26:12,340
So when they show up to the bar and meet Finnick, she's like in the middle of a conversation
511
00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:13,380
with a dead man.
512
00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:16,580
And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the bar and meet Finnick.
513
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:20,180
And she's like, oh, I'm going to go to the bar and meet Finnick.
514
00:26:20,180 --> 00:26:22,820
She's like in the middle of a conversation with a different client.
515
00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:23,460
Oh, yeah.
516
00:26:23,460 --> 00:26:31,220
This this character is voiced by Jonathan LaPau, who also voiced in the Netflix Star
517
00:26:31,220 --> 00:26:33,620
Wars War for Cybertron trilogy was the voice of Unicron.
518
00:26:33,620 --> 00:26:36,340
Star Wars War Star Wars War for what?
519
00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:38,500
Yes, Star Wars War for Cybertron.
520
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:38,980
Everyone.
521
00:26:38,980 --> 00:26:40,580
Transformers War for Cybertron.
522
00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:43,140
So there's a Transformers connection.
523
00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:44,340
Rooster Teeth trilogy.
524
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:45,940
Exactly.
525
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:51,060
Oh, that's if you've seen that trilogy, I'm sorry.
526
00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:55,780
If you love that, I'm also sorry.
527
00:26:55,780 --> 00:27:01,620
So they go out on what is effectively a speedboat or a fan a fan boat.
528
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:02,120
Yeah.
529
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:08,500
But it's it hovers over the water, but it has fins that go down into the water.
530
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,500
It's a bit of a confusing contraption as to why it exactly exists.
531
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:20,420
Can you imagine like hitting a hitting like a tree log just getting launched like 40 feet
532
00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:20,980
upwards?
533
00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:22,580
What happened?
534
00:27:22,580 --> 00:27:24,180
So what happens after that?
535
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:27,380
It's a poisonous planet, so they have to wear their masks.
536
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:33,540
They go up through the main way, which is booby trapped.
537
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:39,220
And so Wrecker and Hunter get out to take out the mines that are in the waterway.
538
00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:40,020
Bunch of gators.
539
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:42,740
Show up space alligators.
540
00:27:42,740 --> 00:27:43,380
I don't know.
541
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,300
And so get some shenanigans of them fighting out.
542
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:48,260
And they're kind of big.
543
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:54,660
You see record duking it out fisticuff style with one.
544
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,340
They've eventually managed to like disarm all the mines.
545
00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:02,660
They fight off the alligators go the way up.
546
00:28:02,660 --> 00:28:06,340
And so they have found this criminals.
547
00:28:06,340 --> 00:28:06,900
I don't know.
548
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:11,060
Criminals hide out.
549
00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:14,180
And one thing that was interesting was she mentioned Haxi and Brood.
550
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:19,220
This was I can't remember if he crossed this game or if he was a part of it.
551
00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:23,460
And so I was incorrect last week when I told you that was Old Republic.
552
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:24,820
I was thinking of something else.
553
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:27,540
Haxi and Brood is actually first mentioned in Jedi Fallen Order.
554
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:28,340
Ah, yes.
555
00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:32,180
You encounter a couple of them as Calcestus.
556
00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:36,980
If only we could have seen Calcestus.
557
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:39,540
He actually still is very young at this point.
558
00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:46,580
He sort of like 10 years old, probably on Brack Brackus or not Brackus that well actually.
559
00:28:46,580 --> 00:28:46,900
Yeah.
560
00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:50,100
I don't know if that's the name of the planet.
561
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:50,500
I might be wrong.
562
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:55,140
But actually a planet they had gone to in season one to get their chips removed.
563
00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:56,980
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
564
00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:58,580
I remember that Calcestus would have been.
565
00:28:58,580 --> 00:28:58,900
Yeah.
566
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,420
I forgot about that.
567
00:29:02,420 --> 00:29:11,380
Anyways, so they ultimately end up capturing this bounty.
568
00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:15,780
He kind of looks like a stick bug or like a mantis thing.
569
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:17,300
Get stick bugged.
570
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:17,780
I don't know.
571
00:29:19,620 --> 00:29:24,580
Creepy looking and they managed to capture him.
572
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:27,380
Fennec keeps all the money.
573
00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:32,180
She tells them, I don't have the information for you, but I know someone who does have
574
00:29:32,180 --> 00:29:33,780
the info and I'll try to get what I can.
575
00:29:35,620 --> 00:29:36,820
Hunter and Wrecker leave.
576
00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:41,780
And then the episode ends with Fennec talking to someone under a voice modulator
577
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:48,020
at the end of the episode, leaving it anonymous to whoever she was talking to.
578
00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:53,300
Which we now know as a result of the next episode that we watched today,
579
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,060
which is called the Harbinger.
580
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:56,980
Did you have any comments on this episode?
581
00:29:56,980 --> 00:30:00,660
I to me, it was just another little adventure that didn't really amount to much.
582
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:01,300
Episode eight?
583
00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:03,240
Or nine?
584
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:04,900
Eight, yeah.
585
00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:07,220
I love Fennec Shand.
586
00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:08,500
She's a girl boss.
587
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:09,540
Love her.
588
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:10,660
I like seeing her again.
589
00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:16,340
Yeah, I don't really have a whole lot.
590
00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:19,140
I'm kind of getting nervous.
591
00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:22,100
Not nervous, but we're halfway through the season at this point.
592
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:27,380
And it just feels like it's moving very slowly.
593
00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:30,340
And if this is supposed to be the last season.
594
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:32,120
Uh huh.
595
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:33,240
Yeah.
596
00:30:33,940 --> 00:30:37,060
It's a little, I have a little concerned.
597
00:30:37,060 --> 00:30:42,740
I get maybe not concerned, but I feel like they have a lot of ground to cover in the next.
598
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:47,780
Technically, well, after we talk about nine, six episodes left.
599
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:49,300
That's a lot of ground to cover.
600
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:55,860
And I'm a little wary, I guess.
601
00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:56,360
Sure.
602
00:30:56,820 --> 00:31:01,620
Unless this it's moving so slow because they all get vadered at the end.
603
00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:02,100
I don't know.
604
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,580
He just shows up and cleans up in the last five seconds.
605
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:08,820
This one lightsaber throw.
606
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:11,060
He throws them off the cliff at Pabu, I guess.
607
00:31:11,060 --> 00:31:11,560
I don't know.
608
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:18,020
So the new episode, I think did both episodes start with a little bit of a
609
00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:22,180
pop up, but I think the episodes start with an establishing shot of Pabu.
610
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:27,620
And both weeks we went, ah, I swear Pabu looks different.
611
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:29,140
Every single shot.
612
00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:31,700
I feel like some of the shots, it looks a lot taller.
613
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,220
You sound like a conspiracy theorist.
614
00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:36,340
Got your wall of pictures and twine.
615
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:40,500
I almost went through the episodes to get screenshots to see if I'd confirm it, but
616
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,460
I didn't do it this time, but it just feels like every single time we see it, and maybe
617
00:31:43,460 --> 00:31:46,340
it's just like very deceiving from different angles.
618
00:31:46,340 --> 00:31:46,820
Yeah.
619
00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:47,940
And each time it bugs me.
620
00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:54,500
So pretty much they're just hanging out on Pabu and.
621
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:57,860
Do you know who we haven't seen a lot this episode despite being on Pabu so much?
622
00:31:57,860 --> 00:31:58,660
Or this season?
623
00:31:59,300 --> 00:31:59,940
I don't know.
624
00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:00,660
Fee.
625
00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:02,100
Yes, and I am OK with that.
626
00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:11,380
Omega wanders into a cave and finds a ship and a stranger and.
627
00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:12,900
Batchers the worst dog.
628
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,500
Pretty much this whole episode just pretty much is.
629
00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:21,380
Proving how unprepared the bad batch is and ill-equipped.
630
00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:21,940
Yeah.
631
00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:26,980
And she pretty much just, well, she being Assange Ventress.
632
00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:28,340
Ah, yes, Assange Ventress.
633
00:32:28,340 --> 00:32:30,660
Just pretty much walks out of the cave.
634
00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:31,380
With hair.
635
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:38,100
With Omega, just dragging Omega by the wrist like she's an old woman who caught Omega
636
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,100
like in her yard or something.
637
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,620
Come get y'all's kid.
638
00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:42,660
And.
639
00:32:42,660 --> 00:32:43,140
And.
640
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:49,060
Pretty much that no one knows who she is.
641
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:54,020
It's sometimes kind of hard to know like who is infamous in this series.
642
00:32:54,020 --> 00:32:56,980
A haircut and a hairstyle can really change.
643
00:32:56,980 --> 00:33:00,020
There are some characters you would expect them to like know on site.
644
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,980
And the fact that they don't know Assange Ventress on site is kind of interesting to me.
645
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:04,100
It was the hair.
646
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:04,420
Yeah.
647
00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:10,340
And I don't know if this is something that it wasn't really quite explained outside of maybe
648
00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:13,460
like a slight throwaway line and that wasn't even a lot like a line.
649
00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:14,420
How is she alive?
650
00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:19,700
She, so she, spoilers for Dark Disciple if you haven't read it.
651
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:23,300
Dark Disciple is a book that was written out of the scrapped, one of the scrapped
652
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:26,420
season seven Clone Wars arcs of which there are many.
653
00:33:27,460 --> 00:33:29,540
It's actually a romance.
654
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:32,420
The main characters are Assange Ventress and Quinlan Vos.
655
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,740
And they're a thing.
656
00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:35,860
And we have talked about this.
657
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:36,260
We have.
658
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:41,220
But so I was looking at some what other people were saying because I haven't read the book.
659
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:43,780
At the end, she dies.
660
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:48,660
He takes her back to Dathomir and like lays her to rest.
661
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:51,220
And there's a very specific, and granted you can say, oh, but it's Dathomir.
662
00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:55,380
People are probably going to get raised back to life as we see Thrawn going back to Dathomir
663
00:33:55,380 --> 00:33:58,020
at the end of Ahsoka with what seems to be a lot of coffins.
664
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:05,060
But so there's a line in the book that specifically says
665
00:34:05,060 --> 00:34:08,580
that I guess Quinlan felt her spirit move on.
666
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:11,620
And so I don't know.
667
00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:16,180
But now that you mentioned this a couple of episodes again, a couple of episodes ago,
668
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:20,260
did they clone Assange Ventress?
669
00:34:21,940 --> 00:34:22,900
I don't know.
670
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:29,620
Yeah, I was so sure a few episodes ago that she had been brought back to life
671
00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:34,260
and or cloned through Project Necromancer by the Empire.
672
00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:37,540
But I almost feel like another Dathomir in which would have had to bring her back.
673
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:41,380
Yeah, looking at how this episode ends up, she is so far from evil.
674
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:47,540
This would be an incredibly bizarre, unless the only thing I can think about is if she is indeed
675
00:34:47,540 --> 00:34:52,820
brought back to life by Project Necromancer, the Empire just released her and this is just how she
676
00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:55,140
is and they didn't think to like check.
677
00:34:55,140 --> 00:34:56,740
Maybe they're like, we'll see if this works.
678
00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:57,780
Well, it did work.
679
00:34:58,580 --> 00:34:59,220
Bye.
680
00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:02,260
So or maybe she's a secret agent, devil agent, long con.
681
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:02,740
I don't know.
682
00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:08,260
To just kind of summarize the episode, pretty much she has been sent by Fennec Shann to help
683
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:10,820
and pretty much she's trying to figure out.
684
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:18,020
She it kind of turns into almost like educate, like edutainment, like educational entertainment,
685
00:35:18,020 --> 00:35:24,820
where she like explains what miniclorians are to, huh, I've heard of miniclorians,
686
00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:26,500
but I don't really get it yet.
687
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,180
Well, let me explain to you.
688
00:35:28,180 --> 00:35:32,820
I did love Omega's what happens if you have a high M count asking for a friend.
689
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:34,100
Yeah, she literally did that.
690
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:34,420
Yeah.
691
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:34,740
Cute.
692
00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:43,460
And so, oh, and also I'm just meant to just briefly, we have talked about,
693
00:35:43,460 --> 00:35:48,260
you don't know, Sage Ventress was an apprentice of Dooku.
694
00:35:48,260 --> 00:35:50,580
And before that, she was a Jedi Padawan.
695
00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:53,940
Yes, but she was only raised by a Jedi.
696
00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:58,740
So she was not like a official Jedi in the sense of she was raised at the Jedi temple,
697
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:04,340
but she was raised on a planet by a Jedi and they were like defending villages or something.
698
00:36:04,340 --> 00:36:11,620
So she never like lived as a Jedi, but as a result, she left, her Jedi master was killed.
699
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:16,340
She embraced the dark side, got trained by Dooku and was his acolyte,
700
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:20,660
very similar to like a Grievous, like another character who can use lightsabers.
701
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:26,820
And then eventually became disillusioned with the Sith as well.
702
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:27,540
She went rogue.
703
00:36:27,540 --> 00:36:28,580
She's kind of a bounty hunter.
704
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:34,420
I think in season five or six, it's the season that Ahsoka is accused.
705
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:35,220
I see.
706
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:35,940
Yeah.
707
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:39,940
So she ends up here and is a pretty neutral character.
708
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:43,060
I mean, in relationship to the Empire, she hates the Empire,
709
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:44,420
which pretty much makes you a rebel.
710
00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:48,260
And then that's kind of the cool thing about the rebellion is it's lots of different people
711
00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:53,540
with different motivations and different ethics or morals, but they all want to see the Empire fall.
712
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:57,300
So she's much more on the good guy side of things than not.
713
00:36:57,860 --> 00:36:58,740
On the spectrum.
714
00:36:58,740 --> 00:37:01,220
She is a little more towards rebellion.
715
00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:05,140
Because I would say someone who's quote unquote neutral would just do whatever they want.
716
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:06,260
She's like chaotic neutral.
717
00:37:06,260 --> 00:37:13,860
More like a maybe like a Boba Fett or like, but, or like an early Fennec Shand,
718
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:15,220
who was willing to work for the Empire.
719
00:37:15,220 --> 00:37:18,180
Ahsoka hates the Empire, hates the Sith.
720
00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:20,580
So she's very being very helpful.
721
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:24,740
She has many chances to kill every single character in this show.
722
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:25,460
She probably would have.
723
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:27,940
And she, we see that she wipes the floor.
724
00:37:27,940 --> 00:37:28,580
Mm hmm.
725
00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:30,820
Also with her yellow lightsaber.
726
00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:31,300
Yes.
727
00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:38,340
But so she starts giving Omega some tests, tries to do a balancing thing and Omega's like,
728
00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:38,980
it's too slippery.
729
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:43,540
And so Ventress kind of gets tired of her and sends her, hey, go pick a flower from the very top of the mountain.
730
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:48,100
Go climb up those 40,000 steps.
731
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,660
So Pabu is not very accessible, if you ask me.
732
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:51,940
So I don't see.
733
00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:52,900
That's a lot of steps.
734
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:55,140
The first test is a very Jedi test.
735
00:37:55,140 --> 00:38:00,340
You stand with one leg, you balance a ball on your head, balance both physical balance
736
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:03,140
and spiritual balance, you know, tuning out the sound.
737
00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:06,180
Though you mentioned that there was no ocean sounds, even though they are in a cave.
738
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:06,980
I did notice.
739
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:08,900
And they're in an ocean cave too.
740
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:09,460
Yeah.
741
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:12,180
So sound mixers aren't really doing their job.
742
00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:13,860
They're pretty absent in this episode.
743
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:19,620
She's sent to get a flower is the second test.
744
00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:26,180
And during this time, Asajj confronts the bad batch because she can sense that they figured out who she is.
745
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:27,700
And-
746
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:35,060
Krosshair comes up, he's like, I checked text files and he pulls up this data pad with a super old
747
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:38,820
photo of Asajj Ventress, which is just really, this was bald Ventress.
748
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:42,100
And so they realized she's a, she's a, she's a separatist.
749
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:46,900
And I think Hunter, someone says she's a war criminal.
750
00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:50,420
That got a good laugh out of you.
751
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:51,300
It did.
752
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:54,980
They're talking about she's, she's all of these bad things.
753
00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:58,980
Or maybe that was after, after they fight, but so they're,
754
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:04,980
they, I don't know why, but like they were, they were like ready to kill her.
755
00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:06,100
Yeah.
756
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:10,100
But my point I wanted to get to real quick is that I was asking about the test,
757
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,820
sending, sending Omega off to get a flower.
758
00:39:12,820 --> 00:39:18,740
It felt to me more like she was trying to get rid of Omega so she could talk to the bad batch,
759
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:19,620
the grownups.
760
00:39:20,740 --> 00:39:22,580
How is her sending her to get a flower?
761
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:26,100
How, in what way is that a test of her?
762
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:30,580
She didn't want to, she didn't want to beat up Omega's older brothers in front of her.
763
00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:36,500
So I just, I didn't, the, Assajj never said that it was not a test.
764
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,940
Maybe she was just annoyed with Omega and was like, I need to be around adults.
765
00:39:39,940 --> 00:39:41,860
I can totally believe that it was not a test.
766
00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:42,820
It was just a way to get rid of her.
767
00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:46,100
But I was like, if it is actually a test, I don't see how it is.
768
00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:51,140
And like, hey kid, you want to sprint to the top of the mountain?
769
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:52,020
It's a test.
770
00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:52,420
Wink.
771
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:52,900
Uh-huh.
772
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:58,180
Like unless, like there's many ways it could have been like Assajj gives her false information,
773
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:01,860
but she finds it anyways, like she's still able to sense where the flower was.
774
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,540
Or if it wasn't a dangerous place, but it was just at the top of the mountain.
775
00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:07,860
And she just like rode Batcher up there.
776
00:40:07,860 --> 00:40:09,380
It wasn't like a speed test.
777
00:40:09,380 --> 00:40:10,180
Like, I don't know.
778
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:15,860
Anyways, uh, the next test is to go out and connect with the wildlife in the ocean.
779
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:17,540
And you had a great observe.
780
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:25,060
Oh, I was going to say, when Omega comes back, Crosshair and Hunter are on the ground.
781
00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:28,260
And she, and Ventress is like force choking wrecker.
782
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:33,380
And it's just, comes back with pizza and everything's on fire.
783
00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:35,140
Which is what I said.
784
00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:36,500
Yes, that is what you said.
785
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:42,340
And so they'd been beefing it out for 10 minutes fighting.
786
00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:46,260
And she had a lot of chances to kill him.
787
00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:46,900
She did, and she didn't.
788
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:47,460
And she did not.
789
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:48,820
She was more just like disarming them.
790
00:40:48,820 --> 00:40:56,420
She, you know, threw their guns out.
791
00:40:56,420 --> 00:41:03,460
But so there's like a scene of, uh, Oh, it's Hunter and Crosshair and Wrecker
792
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:08,660
and Omega, they're back in the ship and they're trying to tell Omega why Ventress is bad.
793
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:12,580
And Hunter or someone goes, she's a war criminal.
794
00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:16,180
And I can't remember if it was Hunter or Crosshair that said it, but it was just,
795
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:19,860
it was just really funny because it's like, well, hmm.
796
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:25,860
And they talked about, uh, all the bad things she did.
797
00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:30,100
Um, you know, all, all the orders she followed.
798
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:34,100
And it's like, wow, what an interesting thing to pick out.
799
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:40,420
Um, so it was, but so Omega convinces them to let Ventress, to give Ventress a chance.
800
00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:43,300
And that's when you're going into this like next quote unquote challenge.
801
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:48,740
They just, they pretty much go to the ocean and she's and Assaj tells her to connect with
802
00:41:48,740 --> 00:41:52,420
the wildlife with, with nature and it doesn't really happen.
803
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:57,300
And so Assaj to prove that it's possible, like summons all these like fish from the
804
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:58,420
bottom of the ocean.
805
00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:01,860
And you went, ah, Godzilla's coming, which is a reference.
806
00:42:01,860 --> 00:42:05,060
It got to the minus one that the sign that Godzilla was coming to the surface was these
807
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:10,180
deep sea creatures would plop up to the surface and lo and behold, a freaking Kaiju does show
808
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:15,700
up like a big shell, shelled creature with a beak and tentacles.
809
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:22,100
Um, ah, yes, the classic tentacle monster of star wars that you get every couple of
810
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:22,660
iterations.
811
00:42:22,660 --> 00:42:29,620
Um, so it flips them out of the ship and we had an interesting moment because we, we kind
812
00:42:29,620 --> 00:42:31,780
of, we'd like to dog on the clone war style.
813
00:42:31,780 --> 00:42:32,420
Yes.
814
00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:33,140
Oh yeah.
815
00:42:33,140 --> 00:42:36,420
Hair is something that I think either works or doesn't work.
816
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:37,620
And it's really odd.
817
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:43,780
And so, um, we actually noticed this, for example, when Omega's hair is dry, there's
818
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:48,180
a very specific line around the back of her hair where it kind of like bends.
819
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:52,900
It's almost like a seam, um, which, you know, the clone war style is very blocky, but there
820
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:59,060
is a part of me that's like, part of us, we talk about this as, you know, not everything,
821
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:01,780
not everything needs to have hard edges.
822
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,020
Um, just throwing it out there.
823
00:43:04,020 --> 00:43:10,660
Uh, but so they get doused and, uh, Ventress's hair is actually like, kind of almost like
824
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:13,140
swooped back on the top and shorter on the sides.
825
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:15,060
And we were actually like, wow, that looks really good.
826
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:20,020
And then Omega gets pulled under and Ventress dives under as well.
827
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:25,300
And Ventress's underwater hair is horrifying.
828
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:32,180
It's, it's just, it's the thing about the clone wars hair is that, you know, it's
829
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:36,660
the clone wars hair is that I'm going to use curls as an example.
830
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:39,940
The way hair works is that, you know, there are chunks.
831
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:41,060
It'll separate into chunks.
832
00:43:41,060 --> 00:43:41,700
You have it.
833
00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:49,700
Um, I have it, you know, but when hair gets wet, especially underwater, it kind of becomes
834
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,620
like one fluid thing.
835
00:43:51,620 --> 00:43:54,180
The hairs are very fluid, you know, it's a mass.
836
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:55,380
It's very soft.
837
00:43:55,380 --> 00:44:00,500
The downside in doing an underwater scene and clone wars art style with long hair is
838
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,820
that you don't get that softness.
839
00:44:02,820 --> 00:44:07,060
You just get the polygons separating from the water physics.
840
00:44:07,060 --> 00:44:09,380
And it's just really uncanny.
841
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:14,420
Anyways, I digress.
842
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:20,660
Look up, look up this episode if you at your own risk, I guess, I don't know.
843
00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:26,740
Um, so the bad batch sees this because they've been, they've been spying.
844
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:29,620
They get in their ship, they're trying to shoot it down.
845
00:44:29,620 --> 00:44:34,900
And Omega tells them to let Ventress try to calm the beast with the force.
846
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:37,460
And she eventually, she does very quickly.
847
00:44:37,460 --> 00:44:39,620
The beast leaves them alone and they go back inside.
848
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:47,300
They go back, they jump into the ship, they go back and they take Ventress back to her ship.
849
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:49,860
And then they just, they kind of say goodbye.
850
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:55,300
And Ventress, Ventress leaves.
851
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:57,780
And that's kind of where it ended, isn't it?
852
00:44:57,780 --> 00:45:08,580
Yeah, not, um, she just Ventress tells Omega that she probably doesn't have a high M count.
853
00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:11,860
And then Omega kind of, it's funny.
854
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:14,900
So I was like, you should count yourself lucky.
855
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:16,180
Cause if you did, you'd be a target.
856
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,660
And Omega goes, I'm a target anyway.
857
00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:20,260
I'm still a target.
858
00:45:20,260 --> 00:45:21,540
I'm already a target.
859
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:25,380
So yeah, she didn't wreck her leave and then Hunter and cross her collar out for a line.
860
00:45:25,380 --> 00:45:27,700
And she's like, but which part am I lying about?
861
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:31,220
She speaks in riddles this one.
862
00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:32,340
Yeah.
863
00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:33,460
Very Jedi of her.
864
00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:39,300
And she tells them that she actually tells them to leave Pabu.
865
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,940
She said, she tells them, you know, you're not as safe as you think you are.
866
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:43,620
And then, you know, she leaves my thought.
867
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:48,100
Is Pabu going to get Jurassic Parked?
868
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:51,220
Like book Jurassic Parked?
869
00:45:55,540 --> 00:45:56,980
Have you read the Jurassic Park?
870
00:45:56,980 --> 00:45:57,620
I have not.
871
00:45:57,620 --> 00:45:58,340
Oh, okay.
872
00:45:58,340 --> 00:45:59,060
You get destroyed.
873
00:45:59,060 --> 00:45:59,540
Spoilers.
874
00:46:00,180 --> 00:46:03,700
So if you watch the Jurassic Park movie, everyone leaves and everyone's happy.
875
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:05,220
They let the Island go.
876
00:46:05,860 --> 00:46:08,660
Well, those who survived seem to be somewhat good.
877
00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:12,340
Despite the trauma they're getting to unpack for the next 20 years.
878
00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:17,620
In the book, the survivors are rescued.
879
00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:20,980
And I think it's the Puerto Rican army.
880
00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:22,580
And I could be totally wrong.
881
00:46:22,580 --> 00:46:23,860
No, I think I'm wrong.
882
00:46:23,860 --> 00:46:29,700
Anyways, the Island, Isla Nubar, gets napalmed.
883
00:46:30,820 --> 00:46:32,580
The entire island gets napalmed.
884
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:34,340
That's why the second one is on a second island.
885
00:46:36,580 --> 00:46:38,100
Like it was a standalone book before.
886
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:41,460
Hey, Michael Crichton, you want to write a second one?
887
00:46:43,140 --> 00:46:50,340
So anyways, all that to say is Pabu going to get orbitally bombarded by the Empire.
888
00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:54,500
It is a sitting target just kind of out there.
889
00:46:54,500 --> 00:47:00,420
Yeah, I think I feel like that's the big looming threat is that if the Empire figures out.
890
00:47:00,420 --> 00:47:01,620
Dives in an orbital bomb.
891
00:47:02,980 --> 00:47:06,020
There's no like clone uprising.
892
00:47:06,020 --> 00:47:07,380
Oh, I'd hate that fake out.
893
00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:09,460
That's so.
894
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,260
So yeah, I'm not going to lie.
895
00:47:12,260 --> 00:47:13,460
There's six episodes left.
896
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:16,740
Come on, keep start moving.
897
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:21,940
Yeah, this whole showed in totally my opinion could have been one season very easily.
898
00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:23,540
It's like Clone Wars, but without the arcs.
899
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:26,340
So Kong versus no.
900
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:29,700
So Godzilla versus.
901
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:34,260
So Godzilla versus Kong released in 2021.
902
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:36,980
I think this was originally supposed to come out.
903
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:42,420
So Godzilla 2 King of the Monsters came out May 2019.
904
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:50,020
I think Godzilla versus Kong was supposed to come out like September 2020.
905
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:50,980
I think you're right.
906
00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:54,260
So it would have been like less than a year and a half.
907
00:47:54,260 --> 00:47:58,900
And then obviously because of COVID, they got pushed back, which I think they I believe
908
00:47:58,900 --> 00:47:59,940
they worked on the CGI.
909
00:47:59,940 --> 00:48:01,460
I believe they worked on it more.
910
00:48:01,460 --> 00:48:06,260
It may not have, but even just for general, just like it's good to space your stuff out.
911
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:09,140
They spent two years cutting 45 minutes out of the holo.
912
00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:09,780
Yeah.
913
00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:10,340
Uh huh.
914
00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:10,900
Yeah.
915
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:17,140
So the movie ended up being one of the earlier films released in like major films released
916
00:48:17,140 --> 00:48:19,540
in theaters post COVID shut down.
917
00:48:20,020 --> 00:48:21,220
Did we see that together?
918
00:48:21,220 --> 00:48:21,940
I believe so.
919
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:22,180
Yeah.
920
00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:29,940
I think I remember us both coming out of it pretty tempered, pretty muted reaction.
921
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:35,060
I remember some people saying they were just happy to be in theaters again and it made
922
00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:36,660
it feel better than it probably was.
923
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:38,580
I feel like I almost had the opposite reaction of.
924
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:41,060
We spent money for this.
925
00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:44,260
We both love this series so much and we're very so excited to see this movie that it
926
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:46,260
felt like a little bit of a let down at the time.
927
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:49,460
I believe I have not watched it since theater.
928
00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:52,340
So it's been, it's March, 2024 now.
929
00:48:52,340 --> 00:48:52,980
So it's been.
930
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:53,780
Almost three years.
931
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:55,380
That's crazy.
932
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:56,900
Three years since it came out.
933
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:58,900
The sands of time continue to.
934
00:48:58,900 --> 00:48:59,380
Uh huh.
935
00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:00,500
Have you watched it since?
936
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:01,060
Nope.
937
00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:01,460
Yeah.
938
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:02,820
So this is our first rewatch.
939
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:03,860
I watched King of the Monsters.
940
00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:04,420
Yeah.
941
00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:05,380
Like every three monster so.
942
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:09,380
A very broad overview.
943
00:49:09,380 --> 00:49:15,780
Uh, Godzilla starts attacking humans seemingly out of nowhere.
944
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:18,500
And so that kind of sets up a mystery in the movies of what's he doing?
945
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:19,300
Why is he doing it?
946
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:20,100
He's the villain.
947
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:20,900
Ooh.
948
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,340
There is a.
949
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:23,700
There's Godzilla.
950
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:24,900
And so.
951
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:25,700
Like Luke.
952
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:31,220
Um, Madison, also called Maddie, played by Millie Ballie Brown, knows Godzilla must
953
00:49:31,220 --> 00:49:31,780
have a purpose.
954
00:49:31,780 --> 00:49:33,300
There must be something happening.
955
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:37,620
So she and her friend, uh, his name is Josh.
956
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:42,180
He is played by Julian Dennison, who was recently in the episode of Bad Batch as the
957
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:43,620
voice of a young clone trooper.
958
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:50,420
Um, and he's most notable for being in Deadpool two and hunt for the Wilder people.
959
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:51,220
They're friends.
960
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:52,980
They go and they hunt down a.
961
00:49:52,980 --> 00:50:01,220
I Titan podcaster named Bernie played by Brian Tyree Henry.
962
00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:07,780
Who will be the voice of I believe Megatron and transformers one later this year, which
963
00:50:07,780 --> 00:50:09,060
is dope.
964
00:50:09,060 --> 00:50:10,980
Um, he's a fun actor.
965
00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:12,100
He's got very particular.
966
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:16,260
I don't think his character is not very well written, but he is a fun performance in this
967
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:16,900
movie.
968
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:17,940
It's always fun.
969
00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:22,500
It's so funny that podcasters become like an archetype in modern movies.
970
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:26,180
Um, there was also a funny moment where we sat down because you're watching it with your
971
00:50:26,180 --> 00:50:26,500
wife.
972
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:27,140
Uh-huh.
973
00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:27,940
And.
974
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:31,620
You pressed play and immediately got up and left the room.
975
00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:36,180
You went to get something from the kitchen, but it was just very funny because you're
976
00:50:36,180 --> 00:50:37,220
like, can we press play?
977
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:38,020
And you went, yes.
978
00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:38,820
And left.
979
00:50:38,820 --> 00:50:43,940
And, uh, so that's their, they're trying to investigate and figure out what is going on.
980
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:45,220
They discover that.
981
00:50:45,220 --> 00:50:52,100
So he has been undercover working for apex, which as far as the movies are concerned,
982
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:54,340
have they been introduced yet or is this their introduction?
983
00:50:54,340 --> 00:50:55,140
I don't know.
984
00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:59,460
I think this is their introduction.
985
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:05,460
So they are now retroactively chronologically, they were involved in the story before this
986
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,140
in the monarch TV show.
987
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:12,660
Unfortunately, they are kind of a, they are the opposite of monarch kind of, they are
988
00:51:12,660 --> 00:51:16,900
just like the another organization, but they're a major corporation.
989
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:17,620
They're greedy.
990
00:51:17,620 --> 00:51:17,780
Yeah.
991
00:51:17,780 --> 00:51:20,020
They're not a government organization, as much as they are corporation.
992
00:51:20,020 --> 00:51:20,740
Apple or something.
993
00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:21,140
I don't know.
994
00:51:21,140 --> 00:51:30,740
And so Bernie and Josh and Madison end up investigating them on the other side, uh,
995
00:51:30,740 --> 00:51:33,140
working for monarch.
996
00:51:33,140 --> 00:51:42,020
You have Eileen, a scientist played by Rebecca Hall, um, has been studying, uh, Kong for
997
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:42,820
some years.
998
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:46,500
They have Kong still on school Island, but they have the entire Island locked down.
999
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,180
He's like in an enclosure.
1000
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:51,220
If you've seen hunger games catching fire, it's very similar.
1001
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:55,780
And this, you know, to step aside and talk about monarch for a second, which is not
1002
00:51:55,780 --> 00:52:01,540
something I love to do, but monarch end with apex seemingly being in control of school
1003
00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:01,940
Island.
1004
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:07,620
That could be a cool concept for a season two of monarch, which is monarch and apex
1005
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:09,940
fighting for control of school Island.
1006
00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:10,900
That's a cool concept.
1007
00:52:11,620 --> 00:52:15,220
Um, so I would be interested to see how monarch, if there's an interesting story to tell
1008
00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:18,180
there, how they came to be in control of this.
1009
00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:22,260
Uh, do you want to talk about the thing that kind of just happens off screen between movies
1010
00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:23,140
on school islands?
1011
00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:24,100
Yeah.
1012
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:31,620
So I really think the E we were some of the most interesting part of school Island.
1013
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:32,100
Yes.
1014
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:32,660
100%.
1015
00:52:32,660 --> 00:52:38,100
You have this, um, group of people who have been living there.
1016
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:41,060
Um, they weren't so granted, they weren't, they weren't native.
1017
00:52:41,060 --> 00:52:42,820
They came from the hollow earth.
1018
00:52:42,820 --> 00:52:47,460
Um, uh, which is, which has been established in some comics.
1019
00:52:47,460 --> 00:52:57,940
And then I believe the Godzilla Kong, um, novelization, but so they, um, they, you know,
1020
00:52:57,940 --> 00:53:00,500
they have a bond, a bond with the Kongs.
1021
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:03,700
Um, every time I say Kong, I think of like those peanut butter dog toys.
1022
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:06,660
I have no idea what you're talking about.
1023
00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:08,740
There's a brand of dog toy called Kong.
1024
00:53:08,740 --> 00:53:09,060
Okay.
1025
00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:10,660
With peanut butter and supposed to distract your dog.
1026
00:53:10,660 --> 00:53:12,180
Cause they like lick it from the outside.
1027
00:53:12,180 --> 00:53:20,260
Anyways, um, so, um, by 2024, which is when this movie takes place, it's, it's assumed
1028
00:53:20,260 --> 00:53:25,700
that almost every, every single one of the E we have been wiped out.
1029
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:31,620
Um, and so what that, that happened between, and I believe it's in a comic and I'm frustrated
1030
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:38,420
by this, um, by camisodes, which is basically like a giant bat thing.
1031
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:48,500
Um, what it did was it, uh, like camisodes, um, was awoken by Ghidorah and emerged from
1032
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:53,060
an unknown location and it actually attacked San Diego.
1033
00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:59,380
Um, and so, uh, camisodes did not arrive in time for the battle with Ghidorah and Godzilla.
1034
00:54:00,340 --> 00:54:05,300
And then at some point retreated back to the hollow earth, but then he resurfaces in 2021.
1035
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:09,780
Um, and so at least I was under the impression that they were killed.
1036
00:54:09,780 --> 00:54:13,780
I think it says in the movie that they were like killed by the storm.
1037
00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:14,420
Yes.
1038
00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:18,660
But, um, which is, is true.
1039
00:54:19,220 --> 00:54:23,620
Um, so there was a super storm that was left by Ghidorah in the Pacific Island that just
1040
00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:27,140
moves towards Skull Island.
1041
00:54:27,860 --> 00:54:31,620
And the storm is there on the island, which is we actually, I think we see the residuals
1042
00:54:31,620 --> 00:54:34,740
of that cause Kong's in that cage and camisodes emerges.
1043
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:43,460
And he just like destroys, um, you know, like, just like, it's just, yeah.
1044
00:54:43,460 --> 00:54:56,820
Um, he, um, sorry, basically he made with, with his powers, just changed the entire ecosystem
1045
00:54:56,820 --> 00:55:01,220
of Skull Island, which kind of like caused it to, um, be destroyed.
1046
00:55:01,220 --> 00:55:02,820
So there's a whole lot going on.
1047
00:55:02,820 --> 00:55:08,420
I had some issues with the fact that they just killed all the indigenous people off
1048
00:55:08,420 --> 00:55:12,900
between films, except for one, um, Gia who's played by Kaylee Hoddle.
1049
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:14,100
Yes.
1050
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:21,300
And she, so previously mentioned, uh, Eileen, um, is the scientist working there.
1051
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:24,100
She's effectively adopted Jaya.
1052
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:25,060
Is that what her name is?
1053
00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:25,540
There's Gia.
1054
00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:26,100
Gia.
1055
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:35,940
Um, and this, this young, uh, deaf, uh, e-wii girl, and it is a bit of a reveal a little
1056
00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:43,220
bit later in the movie, but Jaya has managed to learn how to communicate with Kong via,
1057
00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:48,660
uh, sign language, American sign language, which is a very cool progression.
1058
00:55:48,660 --> 00:55:51,940
Like I realized watching this movie, this is just kind of analysis.
1059
00:55:51,940 --> 00:55:56,660
It's not necessarily good or bad, but like Godzilla has a very deep lore.
1060
00:55:56,660 --> 00:55:58,100
There's a lot going on with God.
1061
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,060
There's so many different movies and stuff to draw from.
1062
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:04,260
Kong has a very simple history.
1063
00:56:05,140 --> 00:56:08,980
Like most of versions of Kong are retelling the same story.
1064
00:56:08,980 --> 00:56:13,460
So he has a very simple background, not much lore, not much to go on.
1065
00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:20,340
It's really the biggest thing about Kong is him fighting vehicle, like flying planes
1066
00:56:20,340 --> 00:56:23,860
and helicopters and him always being obsessed with a human woman.
1067
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:30,020
And so this is a really interesting development of that idea is him actually having a connection
1068
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:33,940
and communicating with a singular human female.
1069
00:56:34,660 --> 00:56:39,060
I think this is a cool way to continue that idea, especially with it being a local of his islands.
1070
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:40,420
I love this.
1071
00:56:40,420 --> 00:56:47,780
This is like the one truly solid, amazing element of this movie is, uh, Gia as a character in her
1072
00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:53,140
and she, by extension, human humanizes, uh, Kong.
1073
00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:54,980
She's definitely the coolest human in the whole film.
1074
00:56:54,980 --> 00:56:58,260
And I'm really, really glad that they're bringing her back for the new film because
1075
00:56:58,260 --> 00:56:59,860
that is a brilliant decision.
1076
00:57:01,860 --> 00:57:06,260
Though this introduced some of the other problems, this movie also known as humans,
1077
00:57:06,260 --> 00:57:13,620
um, our main villain, um, I don't have his name right in front of me, uh, Walter Simmons
1078
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:17,060
played by French actor, uh, Demian Bashir.
1079
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:18,100
The French.
1080
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:20,260
Yeah. Yeah. That's the, that's a huge issue there.
1081
00:57:20,260 --> 00:57:22,180
Doesn't he have a Spanish accent in this?
1082
00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:25,060
I, maybe he is Spanish.
1083
00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:26,420
Oh, he is Mexican.
1084
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:29,140
I get it mixed up with a different actor who's French.
1085
00:57:29,140 --> 00:57:30,980
So I was thinking of the wrong actor.
1086
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:31,460
No, you're right.
1087
00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:33,300
He is a Mexican actor.
1088
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:37,300
Now with the character, I don't know the character's nationality, uh, but yeah,
1089
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:42,980
he is a Mexican actor and I know him from the hateful eight, which he's really good in.
1090
00:57:43,620 --> 00:57:46,900
Uh, I'm trying to see, uh, he's, he's in chaos.
1091
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:49,700
Walking. Do you want chaos walking is nevermind.
1092
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:51,220
We don't need to get into it.
1093
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:53,460
We can talk about off mic.
1094
00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:55,140
It's not really relevant to this podcast.
1095
00:57:56,020 --> 00:58:00,020
Um, if we were a bad movie podcast, we'd probably cover that.
1096
00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:00,900
What are you talking about?
1097
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,100
What is this episode then?
1098
00:58:02,820 --> 00:58:06,020
We cover a variety of, if you don't specifically choose bad movies.
1099
00:58:06,820 --> 00:58:16,420
Um, so anyways, Walter Simmons is the owner of Apex and he sees it as his mission to wipe out
1100
00:58:16,420 --> 00:58:21,140
the Titans. Um, and he has recruited Wren Sarazawa.
1101
00:58:23,060 --> 00:58:26,260
His name is said twice in the whole movie and they never,
1102
00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:29,780
I don't think they ever firmly established who he is.
1103
00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:30,260
Exactly.
1104
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:35,780
Last name. It's very clear that he is, uh, no, I'm totally blanking on his first name.
1105
00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:37,380
Dr. Sarazawa. What is his first name?
1106
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:40,020
Doesn't matter.
1107
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:44,100
Dr. Sarazawa played by Ken Watanabe from the previous films, the best character in this series.
1108
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:52,020
Uh, he is, Wren is clearly Dr. Sarazawa's son and is clearly wants to kill these monsters because he
1109
00:58:52,020 --> 00:58:56,100
blames them for, uh, his father's death.
1110
00:58:56,900 --> 00:59:00,180
This character, ton of potential, totally wasted.
1111
00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:01,460
We'll talk about that later.
1112
00:59:01,460 --> 00:59:07,300
Um, so they recruit, uh, the most unnecessary character in this movie,
1113
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:11,220
a character named Nathan played by Alexander Skarsgard, who funny enough,
1114
00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:15,460
been on various stuff. To me, the thing I remember him from, I've never actually seen him in anything,
1115
00:59:15,460 --> 00:59:19,380
but the thing I remember him from as far as like trailers and stuff is he played live action
1116
00:59:19,380 --> 00:59:23,860
Tarzan a few years ago, which is a different character who deals with big monkeys. Um,
1117
00:59:24,580 --> 00:59:27,060
so he's some sort of scientist or something.
1118
00:59:27,060 --> 00:59:30,100
I, anytime this movie goes into exposition, would I totally blank out.
1119
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:34,260
He was a scientist sort of guy who was studying Titans or something.
1120
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:35,140
Hollow Earth.
1121
00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:42,740
Oh, he was studying a whole earth and they send him to recruit Eileen to do what exactly
1122
00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:44,180
do you remember? Cause I do not.
1123
00:59:44,180 --> 00:59:44,980
Um,
1124
00:59:47,860 --> 00:59:50,900
is there a Kaiju outside? It's a very unique sound.
1125
00:59:53,460 --> 00:59:55,300
I was going to make a joke, but I shouldn't say it on recording.
1126
00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:00,740
So, um, they are,
1127
01:00:00,740 --> 01:00:03,140
so he was a former monarch geologist, as it says here.
1128
01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:07,860
Yes. And they said, I don't know, is like implied that he got kind of like laughed out
1129
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:13,220
because of his theories of the Hollow Earth, which, um, then you also have the conversation on,
1130
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:19,140
this is something they established in Kong Skull Island. And they went back and told Monarch
1131
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:23,940
about the Hollow Earth theories, or at least from their findings, from the depth charges that they
1132
01:00:23,940 --> 01:00:30,260
did, but they want to go into the Hollow Earth and, um, cause one thing, something
1133
01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:37,700
Rin Sezara says is he like asks a Titan could show us the way, which is interesting coming from
1134
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:45,140
Apex because wouldn't they already know this from the three kids from Monarch Legacy of Monsters?
1135
01:00:45,140 --> 01:00:49,620
It's kind of ironic that Monarch Legacy of Monsters would be the least continuity with the most recent
1136
01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:56,340
film, but I guess that that research must've been really locked down for some reason.
1137
01:00:56,340 --> 01:00:57,300
Maybe, I don't know.
1138
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:03,780
But why would, why would Monarch let a guy go who was right? They know he's right.
1139
01:01:03,780 --> 01:01:08,020
Granted, maybe if you go out and you start going, the Earth's Hollow! Wouldn't you also laugh at that?
1140
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:13,140
It's also possible that after Sarazawa died to some, the government really took over Monarch.
1141
01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:16,900
They also left Mark in charge, and I don't really have a lot of faith in him.
1142
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:19,540
It should have been Dr. Chen, but that's just me.
1143
01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:30,100
What it says here on the Wikizilla page is that pretty much they can tell that there's a massive
1144
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:33,620
energy source in the Hollow Earth and they want to harness that in order to build something that can
1145
01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:42,180
kill Titans. And so they need Eileen, cause she's the human who has the most experience with Kong,
1146
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:45,380
which is the only Titan they have in captivity.
1147
01:01:45,380 --> 01:01:45,940
Benevolent Titan.
1148
01:01:45,940 --> 01:01:50,580
Yes. And they want to try to use Kong to get into the Hollow Earth.
1149
01:01:50,580 --> 01:01:55,300
But she's super scared that if the moment they, actually the moment they leave
1150
01:01:56,340 --> 01:02:02,100
Skull Island, Godzilla will try to kill him because he is a theoretical apex or alpha.
1151
01:02:03,540 --> 01:02:10,260
And Nathan somehow convinces her, cause I think he is interested.
1152
01:02:10,260 --> 01:02:13,780
She's also interested in Hollow Earth. I don't know. Remember how exactly she gets convinced.
1153
01:02:13,780 --> 01:02:15,300
Some form of exposition.
1154
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,900
Yeah. And so they end up taking Kong off the island.
1155
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:19,540
Via boat.
1156
01:02:20,580 --> 01:02:25,540
And, but guess who shows up? Godzilla.
1157
01:02:25,540 --> 01:02:32,580
And we get our first action sequence, which is phenomenal, which is Godzilla trying to get Kong
1158
01:02:32,580 --> 01:02:36,500
and he's having to hop from a helicarrier to heli- no, not-
1159
01:02:37,620 --> 01:02:38,580
Yeah. Helicarrier.
1160
01:02:39,620 --> 01:02:43,540
What are they called in Marvel? Are they called aircraft carrier?
1161
01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:45,220
I have not seen a Marvel movie in years.
1162
01:02:45,220 --> 01:02:46,740
Well, those are the helicarriers.
1163
01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:47,380
Yeah.
1164
01:02:47,380 --> 01:02:50,420
Is the flying aircraft. They're aircraft carriers is what they're really called.
1165
01:02:51,140 --> 01:02:51,700
The real ones.
1166
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:55,140
So Kong is totally out of his element.
1167
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:57,220
Cause he's in, he's a sitting duck.
1168
01:02:58,260 --> 01:03:02,260
And pretty much, and Kong does-
1169
01:03:02,260 --> 01:03:04,340
Godzilla's been in a pissy mood the whole movie.
1170
01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:04,580
Yes.
1171
01:03:04,580 --> 01:03:05,380
He's mad.
1172
01:03:05,380 --> 01:03:12,980
Kong does hold his own pretty well. They have, I think originally if you use classic size,
1173
01:03:14,340 --> 01:03:17,060
you know, Kong climbs skyscrapers.
1174
01:03:17,060 --> 01:03:21,860
Godzilla is the size of a skyscraper and can shoot nuclear energy out of his face.
1175
01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:25,540
So classic Godzilla versus classic Kong, it's no contest,
1176
01:03:25,540 --> 01:03:28,980
but they have dramatically sized up Kong in this universe.
1177
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:36,100
Yeah. And pretty much Kong gets knocked out and very similar to what we saw in the last film,
1178
01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:42,260
the humans just shut down everything as a sign of like a weakness sign to give up a white flag
1179
01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:51,380
effectively and Godzilla leaves them alone. They then go to their base in Antarctica.
1180
01:03:51,380 --> 01:03:57,540
And which is also kind of like, I guess, did they rebuild or did they have another base in Antarctica?
1181
01:03:57,540 --> 01:03:58,420
Yeah.
1182
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:05,700
And pretty much Jaya convinces Kong that there might be his family in the Hollow Earth.
1183
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:07,540
So they follow him through the Hollow Earth.
1184
01:04:08,740 --> 01:04:10,980
There's Hollow Earth shenanigans we can talk about in a minute.
1185
01:04:12,820 --> 01:04:17,860
Godzilla then all the while our other team, what I call the podcast squad.
1186
01:04:18,820 --> 01:04:20,660
Who they have to keep reminding us they're in the movie.
1187
01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:25,620
Yeah. They end up at Apex's base in Hong Kong and they uncover
1188
01:04:25,620 --> 01:04:31,380
Mechagodzilla and is the weapon that Apex has been building, a giant robotic
1189
01:04:32,020 --> 01:04:37,540
that they have built from the severed head of Ghidorah.
1190
01:04:37,540 --> 01:04:38,340
Ghidorah.
1191
01:04:38,340 --> 01:04:46,260
Which I pointed this out, but Cameron didn't hear it. When they first show Rin Sarazawa,
1192
01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:54,580
who was piloting Mechagodzilla, when it powers up, you hear Ghidorah's little chitter roar.
1193
01:04:54,580 --> 01:04:58,900
Yeah. Chitter, which I thought was, I don't know, I've never heard that before and I was like,
1194
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:00,260
oh, Easter egg.
1195
01:05:01,380 --> 01:05:08,980
And at some point, so Godzilla shows up to Hong Kong knowing that there's something,
1196
01:05:08,980 --> 01:05:09,940
whenever they fire it up.
1197
01:05:09,940 --> 01:05:11,460
Something on the wing.
1198
01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:13,060
Yeah, he can sense Ghidorah.
1199
01:05:13,060 --> 01:05:13,940
He's mad.
1200
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:19,300
And it's Hong Kong. We looked up the population. It's like seven million people, I think.
1201
01:05:20,260 --> 01:05:24,180
And we'll talk about this at some point, I feel like.
1202
01:05:24,180 --> 01:05:25,780
So I don't want to fully go into it yet.
1203
01:05:25,780 --> 01:05:30,500
But a pathway is opened up from the Hollow Earth to Hong Kong.
1204
01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:34,260
And that allows our human characters.
1205
01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:37,380
Because that wouldn't have rendered an entire continent apart.
1206
01:05:38,020 --> 01:05:41,940
Yeah. Our human characters who have followed Kong into the Hollow Earth,
1207
01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:46,180
they then come to Hong Kong. Godzilla and Kong fight yet again.
1208
01:05:46,180 --> 01:05:54,740
And Kong initially wins, but then eventually gets the crap beat out of him.
1209
01:05:54,740 --> 01:05:56,740
Godzilla is gonna fight.
1210
01:05:56,740 --> 01:05:58,740
Godzilla laugh on camera?
1211
01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:02,100
I was gonna talk about that later, yes. Bizarre moment.
1212
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:08,340
Godzilla then has to take on Mechagodzilla by himself. He's about to lose.
1213
01:06:09,140 --> 01:06:14,660
Jaya convinces him to help Kong. They team up.
1214
01:06:14,660 --> 01:06:18,740
And it's even then a very hard battle.
1215
01:06:18,740 --> 01:06:20,340
And they still need human help.
1216
01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:22,100
We'll talk about how the humans end up helping.
1217
01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:27,220
And they end up defeating Mechagodzilla.
1218
01:06:27,220 --> 01:06:32,500
And they kind of have a steady, unsteady alliance.
1219
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:33,700
Godzilla and Kong at this point.
1220
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:35,780
And Godzilla does what he always does.
1221
01:06:35,780 --> 01:06:39,700
He gave me the Beat Boys and freed my soul back into the ocean.
1222
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:44,500
Give me the Beat Boys and free my souls into the ocean.
1223
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:47,140
And Godzilla and Kong get to go back home to Skull Island.
1224
01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:49,220
No, to the Hollow Earth.
1225
01:06:49,220 --> 01:06:51,620
I'm guessing he'll just jump back down.
1226
01:06:51,620 --> 01:06:53,060
Yeah, we'll talk about it.
1227
01:06:53,060 --> 01:06:54,740
So that's the broad overview.
1228
01:06:54,740 --> 01:06:56,580
There's a lot going on in this movie, clearly.
1229
01:06:58,020 --> 01:06:58,980
And still too much.
1230
01:06:59,780 --> 01:07:02,020
So last week I introduced the idea of...
1231
01:07:03,620 --> 01:07:07,940
Classically, we review a film by doing our three good, three bad, three hmms.
1232
01:07:07,940 --> 01:07:10,020
But I think good and bad is just a little too basic.
1233
01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:13,140
So we're on a hunt to find a name for these categories.
1234
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,020
Last week I said three hmms.
1235
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:18,260
I don't know, three yeahs and three nas.
1236
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:20,900
This week, here's some Jessens I have, Rachel.
1237
01:07:21,460 --> 01:07:23,300
Three yeps and three nopes.
1238
01:07:24,820 --> 01:07:26,580
Three dubs and three Ls.
1239
01:07:29,300 --> 01:07:30,740
I do like dubs and Ls.
1240
01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:31,780
That's pretty funny.
1241
01:07:31,780 --> 01:07:34,500
Okay, well, I think that's what we'll stick with.
1242
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:36,100
Well, I have a very basic one that...
1243
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:37,700
I thought you would say no to those two.
1244
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:39,860
So I did come up with one that was a little more...
1245
01:07:44,580 --> 01:07:46,580
Trying to be reasonable, I guess.
1246
01:07:47,540 --> 01:07:48,740
I can't think of the word I'm looking for.
1247
01:07:48,740 --> 01:07:50,820
Just trying to be a reasonable human being.
1248
01:07:50,820 --> 01:07:52,420
Three ups and three downs.
1249
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:55,780
Which is kind of funny with the Hollow Earth stuff.
1250
01:07:55,780 --> 01:07:57,060
This is a small group.
1251
01:07:59,060 --> 01:08:02,020
I think if you like dubs and Ls, I think that's what we should go with.
1252
01:08:02,020 --> 01:08:04,260
So what's your first dub, Rachel?
1253
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:10,980
We get some cool deaf representation with Kaylee Hoddle who plays Gia,
1254
01:08:10,980 --> 01:08:12,820
which my phone keeps autocorrecting to, Jim.
1255
01:08:15,780 --> 01:08:16,820
Oh man, that's good.
1256
01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:19,060
Can you imagine if they called her Jim the whole day?
1257
01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:19,560
That'd be great.
1258
01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:22,420
So that's just really cool.
1259
01:08:23,060 --> 01:08:24,900
She's actually deaf in real life.
1260
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:28,180
She is like fifth generation deaf.
1261
01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:29,560
Why?
1262
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:35,220
Or four generations above her on her dad's side at least that are all deaf.
1263
01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:36,340
That's really interesting.
1264
01:08:36,340 --> 01:08:37,060
So that's really cool.
1265
01:08:37,060 --> 01:08:38,340
That's just really cool because...
1266
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:44,260
Hired disabled actors to play those parts.
1267
01:08:44,260 --> 01:08:45,060
Yeah, totally.
1268
01:08:45,060 --> 01:08:47,540
They could have hired anyone else that knew sign language.
1269
01:08:47,540 --> 01:08:53,780
And it's neither a character who they've like forced,
1270
01:08:53,780 --> 01:08:55,460
needlessly forced someone with a disability
1271
01:08:55,460 --> 01:08:58,580
and like tried to make that part of the story for no good reason.
1272
01:08:58,580 --> 01:09:03,300
Or it's not like a cringy representation.
1273
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:05,700
It is a very good thematic reason.
1274
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:08,340
I mean, and you could have any character, no sign language,
1275
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:11,780
but it feels more genuine when it's a deaf character
1276
01:09:12,740 --> 01:09:14,580
because that's just how this person communicates.
1277
01:09:14,580 --> 01:09:20,020
And it makes her uniquely equipped to communicate with Kong.
1278
01:09:20,020 --> 01:09:20,520
Yeah.
1279
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:24,340
Yeah, that's just really cool for the deaf and hard of hearing community.
1280
01:09:24,340 --> 01:09:26,740
Nonetheless, I have been learning sign language.
1281
01:09:26,740 --> 01:09:31,140
So I slightly picked up on some things that she said,
1282
01:09:32,020 --> 01:09:35,540
but I have to watch my classes very slowly so I can't do it.
1283
01:09:35,540 --> 01:09:39,700
But I did find it interesting because the Iwi don't speak.
1284
01:09:40,820 --> 01:09:42,820
That was a stout and conical island.
1285
01:09:42,820 --> 01:09:44,500
Just part of me thinking logistically,
1286
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,340
maybe it was very easy for her to pick that up
1287
01:09:47,060 --> 01:09:48,500
because it's American sign language.
1288
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:52,500
So she would have had to have been taught American sign.
1289
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:55,460
Like, well, would have had to have been taught that sign language.
1290
01:09:55,460 --> 01:09:56,660
So that's really cool.
1291
01:09:56,660 --> 01:10:00,180
And then one thing I also liked when there were shots in the movie
1292
01:10:00,180 --> 01:10:02,580
that were like kind of from her point of view,
1293
01:10:02,580 --> 01:10:06,180
it's still all third person, but where she was the main focus,
1294
01:10:06,180 --> 01:10:08,980
all the audio was dampened out as well.
1295
01:10:12,020 --> 01:10:15,140
Or there were only like very there are only parts that we heard.
1296
01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:20,740
Like when she said when she went right before Godzilla attacks Kong on the boat,
1297
01:10:20,740 --> 01:10:24,020
she can like feel his vibrations.
1298
01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:31,780
His vibrations. She's the one who feels Kong's heart giving out towards the end.
1299
01:10:31,780 --> 01:10:33,300
Either way, super cool.
1300
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:37,220
I'm very glad to see her coming back in the next film.
1301
01:10:37,220 --> 01:10:38,820
So big fan.
1302
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:41,060
And I think she's more of a main character in the next film
1303
01:10:41,060 --> 01:10:42,180
based on the trailer I've seen.
1304
01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:45,620
Yes, I really hope so.
1305
01:10:45,620 --> 01:10:48,820
So real fast before I go on to my first dub,
1306
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:52,500
a couple of fun connections for actors.
1307
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:57,140
One. So there's a character named Admiral Wilcox.
1308
01:10:57,140 --> 01:11:01,460
He is like the Admiral on the ship that's transporting Kong.
1309
01:11:02,020 --> 01:11:04,420
He is also in Pirates of the Caribbean 3.
1310
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:06,100
He's one of the pirate lords.
1311
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:11,300
The one that's like the very African like coded, the only black one.
1312
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:13,620
He's clearly from Africa, by the way he dresses.
1313
01:11:14,340 --> 01:11:18,100
A little cringy, but it's cool to have that connection to Pirates of the Caribbean,
1314
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:21,860
a series that we both love, but is not currently active.
1315
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:24,180
So there's nothing to really talk about in the podcast as of right now.
1316
01:11:26,020 --> 01:11:27,220
Will be after I see my concert.
1317
01:11:27,220 --> 01:11:28,340
A funnier one.
1318
01:11:29,780 --> 01:11:33,060
So they, in a very brief sequence when
1319
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:39,380
Maddie and her friend are looking for the podcast guy,
1320
01:11:39,380 --> 01:11:42,580
they talk to this shop owner
1321
01:11:43,140 --> 01:11:46,740
and the shop owner is played by an actor named Ronnie Ching.
1322
01:11:47,540 --> 01:11:49,140
Character name is Jay Wayne.
1323
01:11:49,140 --> 01:11:55,540
He was the voice of the fish who lived inside the Pelicans mouth in Kung Fu Panda 4.
1324
01:11:55,540 --> 01:11:56,740
What a connection.
1325
01:11:56,740 --> 01:11:58,420
So that's very, very funny.
1326
01:11:58,420 --> 01:11:59,540
So there's two fun connections there.
1327
01:11:59,540 --> 01:12:01,860
Glad to see that he's been doing better movies in the meanwhile.
1328
01:12:02,580 --> 01:12:03,060
Yes.
1329
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:09,380
My, I will just kind of, I mean, I totally agree with you.
1330
01:12:09,380 --> 01:12:12,980
You, you really stole my favorite thing from the movie as well.
1331
01:12:12,980 --> 01:12:13,460
Sorry.
1332
01:12:13,460 --> 01:12:14,260
No, you got it.
1333
01:12:14,260 --> 01:12:15,060
It's an obvious one.
1334
01:12:15,060 --> 01:12:19,460
It's an obvious one. I think if you, I don't, I can, would really doubt most
1335
01:12:20,420 --> 01:12:24,260
reasonable people would come away from this movie thinking anything else beats this.
1336
01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:25,220
I did find out.
1337
01:12:25,220 --> 01:12:26,260
So, sorry.
1338
01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:29,060
One thing we were trying to figure out, you're Alison and I, not you,
1339
01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:34,420
what the sign language for Godzilla was because Kong is like, she,
1340
01:12:34,420 --> 01:12:35,140
Just beats her chest.
1341
01:12:35,140 --> 01:12:36,180
Beats her chest, which is funny.
1342
01:12:36,180 --> 01:12:40,340
So we were trying to figure out what
1343
01:12:40,340 --> 01:12:43,460
Godzilla is.
1344
01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:46,740
And first we thought it was like this, where she moves her hand forward at her open palm,
1345
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:48,500
forward in front of her.
1346
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:48,900
Yeah.
1347
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:50,180
That means future.
1348
01:12:50,180 --> 01:12:51,380
But I did find this.
1349
01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:53,940
So this is very visual.
1350
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:55,140
You guys are going to love this.
1351
01:12:55,140 --> 01:12:55,380
Yeah.
1352
01:12:55,380 --> 01:12:57,460
Sign language on a podcast is great.
1353
01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:59,780
Can you imagine if it was just sign language the whole time?
1354
01:12:59,780 --> 01:13:07,860
It's just like, so if you like cup, you use your dominant hand for most action signs,
1355
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:13,460
you like shape your hand until like this, like curl your fingers curled up,
1356
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,140
but not your fist clench.
1357
01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:17,140
And you move it up your non-dominant arm.
1358
01:13:17,140 --> 01:13:18,420
This is lizard.
1359
01:13:18,420 --> 01:13:18,900
I see.
1360
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:19,940
And this is monster.
1361
01:13:20,580 --> 01:13:21,540
Two claws.
1362
01:13:21,540 --> 01:13:21,700
Yeah.
1363
01:13:21,700 --> 01:13:27,220
Like two hands, like, if you know, like you know, you like scare kids, you like put your
1364
01:13:27,220 --> 01:13:28,580
hands out like a monster, you like move your arms.
1365
01:13:28,580 --> 01:13:30,660
So like lizard, monster, which is kind of funny.
1366
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:32,820
Or since it's a pronoun, you'd probably just spell his name out.
1367
01:13:33,700 --> 01:13:35,220
Anyways, continue with your first.
1368
01:13:35,220 --> 01:13:40,580
Just to kind of add on to what you talked about, I think.
1369
01:13:41,620 --> 01:13:45,700
A element I had totally forgotten about, but I think is a really nice
1370
01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:51,620
thread to the whole film is pretty much as soon as they take Kong off of Skull Island,
1371
01:13:51,620 --> 01:13:52,900
he's constantly signing home.
1372
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:54,260
He wants to go back home.
1373
01:13:54,260 --> 01:13:57,460
And at the very end of the film, when they get back to the Hollow Earth,
1374
01:13:57,460 --> 01:13:59,060
it's the last thing he signs is home.
1375
01:13:59,060 --> 01:14:01,380
I mean, that's, it's a nice little.
1376
01:14:02,580 --> 01:14:03,380
He's home.
1377
01:14:03,380 --> 01:14:08,900
I think, yeah, that'll that'll go into something I'll talk about with my next dub.
1378
01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:11,220
Give me your first L, Rachel.
1379
01:14:11,220 --> 01:14:13,140
We already talked about this.
1380
01:14:16,340 --> 01:14:18,340
I didn't like killing the Eevee between the movies.
1381
01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:20,660
Really?
1382
01:14:20,660 --> 01:14:20,980
No.
1383
01:14:20,980 --> 01:14:22,260
Oh, interesting.
1384
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:22,740
I don't know.
1385
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:25,380
I remember the first time I saw it, it just really kind of felt like.
1386
01:14:27,060 --> 01:14:30,340
Like, even though it was, I don't want to say justified, but it may, I guess,
1387
01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:34,420
technically made sense within the franchise as to why Gia would be by herself.
1388
01:14:34,420 --> 01:14:34,820
Sure.
1389
01:14:34,820 --> 01:14:39,220
You have both of these, you have both Gia and Kong from Skull Island that are removed from
1390
01:14:39,220 --> 01:14:39,780
their family.
1391
01:14:39,780 --> 01:14:41,220
So you have that nice bond.
1392
01:14:41,220 --> 01:14:43,380
It did just kind of feel cheap.
1393
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:46,980
I think at the time in which I saw it, they were like, we're just gonna kill off all the
1394
01:14:46,980 --> 01:14:51,140
indigenous people really quick between movies and not explain it.
1395
01:14:51,140 --> 01:14:53,860
So then I had to go back in later and kind of explain it more.
1396
01:14:53,860 --> 01:14:54,500
So I don't know.
1397
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:56,020
It's just kind of like, okay.
1398
01:14:56,740 --> 01:14:58,020
I don't blame you.
1399
01:14:58,020 --> 01:15:01,540
For me, there's a lot to not like about this movie.
1400
01:15:03,540 --> 01:15:06,260
I just opened my notes to write down a fourth one and I can't remember what it was.
1401
01:15:08,260 --> 01:15:09,060
Oh, I remembered it.
1402
01:15:11,060 --> 01:15:13,620
I'm just going to say that there's lots of nothing.
1403
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:15,940
We're going to talk about the Hollow Earth.
1404
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:21,380
I feel like it's going to come up, but it's not just a Hollow Earth.
1405
01:15:21,380 --> 01:15:24,020
There's just lots of dead space in this movie.
1406
01:15:24,020 --> 01:15:25,700
It's a pretty long film.
1407
01:15:25,700 --> 01:15:27,140
I think you can make this movie a lot shorter.
1408
01:15:27,140 --> 01:15:32,420
Somehow, this series keeps having more human characters.
1409
01:15:33,140 --> 01:15:37,220
Every subsequent film, like you look back at Godzilla 2014.
1410
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:38,580
That's a pretty tight film.
1411
01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:42,260
Like there's a lot of human characters in that, but they're all kind of related to each other.
1412
01:15:42,260 --> 01:15:45,060
In some way, they're all mostly sharing scenes together.
1413
01:15:45,620 --> 01:15:50,260
There's just so many human characters in this movie and there are notable actors in this movie
1414
01:15:50,260 --> 01:15:52,980
who show up and have very little to do and clearly had more.
1415
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:54,900
This movie is very clearly cut down.
1416
01:15:54,900 --> 01:15:59,460
I don't know if this movie needs to be longer or shorter, but wherever they landed was a bad space.
1417
01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:06,740
I think it most culminates in you have a bunch of dead space early on.
1418
01:16:06,740 --> 01:16:09,300
Eventually, you need to give your human something to do.
1419
01:16:11,220 --> 01:16:16,180
I feel like one of the biggest things they are given to do is when they are in the Hollow
1420
01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:21,620
Earth and trying to leave, they have to fight this monster and it just is so worthless.
1421
01:16:21,620 --> 01:16:23,540
It's a boring scene.
1422
01:16:24,340 --> 01:16:26,980
The monster is not very interesting in its design.
1423
01:16:27,940 --> 01:16:33,060
I feel like in my opinion, most action scenes, I think if you just had a really entertaining
1424
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:35,540
action scene that didn't really serve a purpose, you've got to get away with it.
1425
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:39,540
But for the most part, you need to motivate the action scene.
1426
01:16:39,540 --> 01:16:42,580
Something different, something needs to change between the beginning and the end of the action
1427
01:16:42,580 --> 01:16:43,060
sequence.
1428
01:16:43,060 --> 01:16:47,540
It shouldn't just be getting from A to B. Something should be lost or gained or learned.
1429
01:16:47,540 --> 01:16:54,420
Now, I do think this is probably the moment where a character is killed.
1430
01:16:55,780 --> 01:16:56,820
The woman who was...
1431
01:16:56,820 --> 01:16:58,820
Simmons' daughter.
1432
01:16:58,820 --> 01:17:04,340
Yeah, it was the owner of Apex's daughter, but she was a nothing character to begin with.
1433
01:17:05,540 --> 01:17:09,460
She's just there to be snarky.
1434
01:17:09,460 --> 01:17:12,420
It's not a particularly specific criticism, but just like...
1435
01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:14,660
Did we talk of this film passes the Bechtel test?
1436
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:16,660
Almost certainly not.
1437
01:17:16,660 --> 01:17:20,260
I don't know, because they're constantly talking about Godzilla and Kong, who are technically
1438
01:17:20,260 --> 01:17:21,220
male characters.
1439
01:17:21,220 --> 01:17:24,740
So depending on whether you consider them, they are constantly talking about them.
1440
01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:26,260
So I don't know if you could really get away with it.
1441
01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:32,420
But they do have a lot of female characters, especially Eileen and Gia have a lot of
1442
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:35,380
conversations and interact and are very much human characters.
1443
01:17:36,820 --> 01:17:37,460
Maddie's there.
1444
01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:39,700
So it's not a very...
1445
01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:40,500
But I think just like...
1446
01:17:41,860 --> 01:17:44,340
You know, it's one thing when you have a monster movie and you have a couple of human
1447
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:47,380
characters and they're boring, it's like, well, you need some human characters, but
1448
01:17:47,380 --> 01:17:50,260
there are so many that you could very easily cut out a bunch of these characters in the
1449
01:17:50,260 --> 01:17:50,900
movie would be...
1450
01:17:51,860 --> 01:17:53,060
You don't even need to change them.
1451
01:17:53,060 --> 01:17:54,580
Just take them out and the movie's better.
1452
01:17:55,860 --> 01:17:57,700
What's your next dub, Rachel?
1453
01:17:58,260 --> 01:18:03,300
You know, going into the Hollow Earth was really cool and we get to see such a wide
1454
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:06,500
range of life forms in the Hollow Earth.
1455
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,660
We see little crabby guys.
1456
01:18:08,660 --> 01:18:13,940
We see the ever, ever cool Doug.
1457
01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:17,300
Doug is a cousin of...
1458
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:18,260
No, for real, for real.
1459
01:18:18,260 --> 01:18:19,940
He is a cousin of Godzilla.
1460
01:18:19,940 --> 01:18:20,980
He's from a different branch.
1461
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:23,940
He's a little more iguana-like, very short stubby.
1462
01:18:23,940 --> 01:18:25,140
We love Doug.
1463
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:25,940
That's his name.
1464
01:18:26,820 --> 01:18:27,780
Titanus Doug.
1465
01:18:27,780 --> 01:18:29,540
I'm pretty sure that's his name, if I'm wrong.
1466
01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:30,740
If I'm wrong, don't correct me.
1467
01:18:30,740 --> 01:18:31,860
Let me live in ignorance.
1468
01:18:32,820 --> 01:18:34,820
But so we get to see him, we get to see those...
1469
01:18:35,940 --> 01:18:37,060
I see, I can't remember the names.
1470
01:18:37,060 --> 01:18:42,820
Like the winged cobra kaiju at the beginning of the Hollow Earth that absolutely get wrecked
1471
01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:43,700
by Kong.
1472
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:45,060
He has a little snack.
1473
01:18:45,060 --> 01:18:46,100
I did not remember those.
1474
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:47,540
Those things are really cool.
1475
01:18:47,540 --> 01:18:48,340
I know.
1476
01:18:48,340 --> 01:18:50,420
So yeah, they're super cool.
1477
01:18:50,420 --> 01:18:58,580
You get to see a range of kind of like these vulture hawk things.
1478
01:18:58,580 --> 01:19:04,020
They're almost like bats that get disturbed during a pivotal scene later in the film.
1479
01:19:04,020 --> 01:19:07,140
But there is a lot to explore in the Hollow Earth.
1480
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:10,500
So you've got creatures that are...
1481
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:14,980
So war bat is actually the name of the cobra snake thing.
1482
01:19:14,980 --> 01:19:16,420
The Cobra Dragon is what I called them.
1483
01:19:17,060 --> 01:19:19,620
The smaller like bat things are called hell hawks.
1484
01:19:20,980 --> 01:19:22,900
The crab things are called rock claws.
1485
01:19:26,820 --> 01:19:31,860
Yeah, that's actually going to be my next exact next dub is the Hollow Earth.
1486
01:19:31,860 --> 01:19:34,740
I will add the travel to the Hollow Earth is very cool.
1487
01:19:34,740 --> 01:19:43,060
It's very 2001 science fiction-y of like bright colors and very abstract and...
1488
01:19:43,940 --> 01:19:44,180
Which...
1489
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:46,900
Continue, continue.
1490
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:50,340
It's very abstract and trippy.
1491
01:19:51,940 --> 01:19:57,220
It was a visually creative moment of just, hey, how are we going to visually illustrate
1492
01:19:57,220 --> 01:19:58,580
traveling to the Hollow Earth?
1493
01:19:58,580 --> 01:20:01,060
Just make it a light show, make it a laser light show.
1494
01:20:01,060 --> 01:20:01,620
And it's cool.
1495
01:20:01,620 --> 01:20:05,140
I think it was one of the more visually interesting moments of this series.
1496
01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:06,820
That's full of visually interesting moments.
1497
01:20:08,660 --> 01:20:14,740
The other and the Cobra Dragons, they try to suffocate Kong with their wings.
1498
01:20:14,740 --> 01:20:16,660
They're both venomous and constrictive.
1499
01:20:16,660 --> 01:20:19,860
Yeah, they kind of fly, but they also slither.
1500
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:20,740
There's two of them.
1501
01:20:21,620 --> 01:20:22,580
It was a great sequence.
1502
01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:24,340
I just had totally forgotten about it.
1503
01:20:24,340 --> 01:20:26,500
And it was a huge reversal from...
1504
01:20:26,500 --> 01:20:30,660
In my memory, the Hollow Earth stuff was super boring and unnecessary.
1505
01:20:30,660 --> 01:20:32,660
And retroactively, it's one of my favorite parts of the movie.
1506
01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:33,460
It's so weird.
1507
01:20:33,460 --> 01:20:39,460
I just, for some reason, because there's a long sequence of Kong traveling through the
1508
01:20:39,460 --> 01:20:42,820
Hollow Earth and there's less gravity and he has to jump.
1509
01:20:42,820 --> 01:20:43,780
There's pretty much...
1510
01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:46,660
The Hollow Earth itself is...
1511
01:20:46,660 --> 01:20:47,700
It's split in half.
1512
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:49,940
It's kind of a planet within Earth.
1513
01:20:49,940 --> 01:20:51,060
And so you have...
1514
01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:53,700
Imagine a globe.
1515
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:55,300
It's within Earth.
1516
01:20:55,300 --> 01:20:59,220
But then you have a ceiling.
1517
01:20:59,220 --> 01:21:01,700
And that has its own gravity.
1518
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,540
And the new planet has its own gravity.
1519
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:07,460
So you have to transfer from one to the other through a mountain peak.
1520
01:21:07,460 --> 01:21:11,140
If you've ever seen Inception when they do the building fold things, it's like that.
1521
01:21:12,260 --> 01:21:13,780
And I just remember that being really boring.
1522
01:21:13,780 --> 01:21:17,140
But this time around, I was like, this is actually kind of visually interesting.
1523
01:21:17,140 --> 01:21:20,740
And I can see why they wanted to build this out a little bit so that they could set the
1524
01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:22,420
next film in the Hollow Earth.
1525
01:21:22,420 --> 01:21:26,580
And in this sequence, just to explain to people who haven't seen it, this is where we find
1526
01:21:27,460 --> 01:21:34,340
like a cave slash like built environment, like almost like a...
1527
01:21:34,340 --> 01:21:40,660
Not a castle, but it's got a throne that was clearly where Kongs previously lived.
1528
01:21:40,660 --> 01:21:41,860
One point a settlement.
1529
01:21:41,860 --> 01:21:44,260
There's a bunch of skulls all over the ground.
1530
01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:45,700
There are Kong bones.
1531
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:46,820
There are Godzilla bones.
1532
01:21:46,820 --> 01:21:47,300
Yes.
1533
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:53,700
And so is this, is it the Godzilla scales or like back...
1534
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:54,900
What are the fins?
1535
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:55,940
What are on his back?
1536
01:21:55,940 --> 01:21:56,440
Yes.
1537
01:21:57,060 --> 01:21:59,220
Is this what Apex ends up wanting?
1538
01:21:59,220 --> 01:22:01,540
Is the materials from that?
1539
01:22:01,540 --> 01:22:02,500
I'm fairly certain, yes.
1540
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:04,340
Something like in that area.
1541
01:22:04,340 --> 01:22:05,620
That's where they kind of drill in.
1542
01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:13,140
And Kong finds one of these Godzilla scales or fins made into an axe.
1543
01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:14,580
And so he has a weapon.
1544
01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:17,460
Now that can hurt Godzilla.
1545
01:22:17,460 --> 01:22:18,980
So it keeps humans at the top of the food chain.
1546
01:22:18,980 --> 01:22:20,980
You got thumbs and sharp objects.
1547
01:22:20,980 --> 01:22:26,180
And it is at this point, just again, to elaborate a little bit on the plot.
1548
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:33,540
For some reason, Godzilla can like sense that this is happening and he fires a hole
1549
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:40,660
from Hong Kong through the earth to the Hollow Earth using his atomic breath.
1550
01:22:40,660 --> 01:22:43,700
How convenient that they're like, oh, this is the way to do it.
1551
01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:46,740
How convenient that they're like directly on top of each other.
1552
01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:47,240
Yeah.
1553
01:22:48,660 --> 01:22:52,500
This, I look, I love this series and I love how nonsensical can be,
1554
01:22:52,500 --> 01:22:54,660
but this is a bit of a stretch.
1555
01:22:55,700 --> 01:22:57,940
How bad, but here's the thing.
1556
01:23:00,580 --> 01:23:05,700
Imagine making Monarch Legacy of Monsters and you still don't support
1557
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:08,180
what happens in the movie canon.
1558
01:23:08,180 --> 01:23:15,220
What is legacy or what is Monarch Legacy of Elves, if not bad.
1559
01:23:16,420 --> 01:23:20,820
And so you still have, because then they're like, oh, you can go into the Hollow Earth
1560
01:23:20,820 --> 01:23:21,780
if you follow a Kaiju.
1561
01:23:22,500 --> 01:23:30,500
But then the actor, Skarsgard's brother in this franchise died trying to get into the
1562
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:36,340
Hollow Earth because when you enter the Hollow Earth, they describe it as the entire world.
1563
01:23:36,340 --> 01:23:44,020
He, they describe it as the entire weight, the entire, excuse me, the entire like gravitational
1564
01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:46,420
force of a planet forced on you.
1565
01:23:46,420 --> 01:23:47,860
That's why they have to go in their ships.
1566
01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:50,900
Now granted, then you can make, maybe that's why they're like, oh, well, we can't actually
1567
01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:52,260
go into the Hollow Earth because it'll kill us.
1568
01:23:52,260 --> 01:23:53,380
We're in Axis Mundi.
1569
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:56,600
Okay.
1570
01:23:57,060 --> 01:24:01,940
It's just, it's just still feels like wasted potential.
1571
01:24:01,940 --> 01:24:06,580
I, it's just, as you can tell, I don't love that show.
1572
01:24:06,580 --> 01:24:07,060
Yeah.
1573
01:24:07,060 --> 01:24:10,260
We spent a couple of months complaining about it.
1574
01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:19,780
And so at this point, Kong and the humans make their way up through the hole.
1575
01:24:20,340 --> 01:24:23,940
Oh, that was what I was going to say is imagine being the Monarch characters or anyone who
1576
01:24:23,940 --> 01:24:24,740
had like spent-
1577
01:24:24,740 --> 01:24:26,420
They have to be dead at this point.
1578
01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:31,140
Maybe, maybe after they came back out of Axis Mundi, you know, they're like, oh, we're on
1579
01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:32,420
Skull Island, so we got to escape.
1580
01:24:32,420 --> 01:24:34,100
They just took them off to the side and shot them.
1581
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:38,420
Well, they got killed by one of the many things that can kill you on Skull Island.
1582
01:24:38,420 --> 01:24:40,020
Or they got killed in the storm too.
1583
01:24:40,020 --> 01:24:40,420
I don't know.
1584
01:24:42,180 --> 01:24:45,460
Imagine just being anyone who had been trying to get to the whole Earth their whole life
1585
01:24:45,460 --> 01:24:49,060
and Godzilla just shoots a hole from the surface to the whole Earth.
1586
01:24:49,060 --> 01:24:52,260
Like you could have done that the whole time.
1587
01:24:52,260 --> 01:24:55,380
Why didn't you do that in like Utah or something?
1588
01:24:57,060 --> 01:24:57,380
So-
1589
01:24:57,380 --> 01:25:01,540
But we do get a scene of them yelling at each other.
1590
01:25:01,540 --> 01:25:01,780
Yes.
1591
01:25:01,780 --> 01:25:07,620
I've got- I was planning on just talking about all the very funny things that happen in-
1592
01:25:07,620 --> 01:25:08,120
Oh, well.
1593
01:25:09,540 --> 01:25:10,420
We'll talk about it.
1594
01:25:11,860 --> 01:25:13,540
What's your next L?
1595
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:20,100
Absolute complete wasted potential of Ren Sarazawa's character.
1596
01:25:20,820 --> 01:25:21,300
Yes, absolutely.
1597
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:21,620
Whose name-
1598
01:25:21,620 --> 01:25:22,120
Absolutely.
1599
01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:23,880
All right.
1600
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:26,420
Y'all love me.
1601
01:25:26,420 --> 01:25:30,020
You know, I love me some Dr. Sarazawa from the first two films.
1602
01:25:30,980 --> 01:25:32,740
We know this by now, Rachel.
1603
01:25:32,740 --> 01:25:33,620
Everyone knows this.
1604
01:25:33,620 --> 01:25:36,340
In case you didn't, I love him.
1605
01:25:36,340 --> 01:25:39,780
All of China knows that you love Dr. Sarazawa.
1606
01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:41,380
All of China knows that you love Ken Watanabe.
1607
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:44,580
So you have this-
1608
01:25:45,620 --> 01:25:47,140
So Dr. Sarazawa's story.
1609
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:49,220
His father, I can't remember.
1610
01:25:49,220 --> 01:25:54,340
I believe his father was killed and I believe either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
1611
01:25:54,340 --> 01:25:58,180
He has his watch that stopped at the time where he was there when it happened.
1612
01:25:58,180 --> 01:25:59,460
And so he-
1613
01:26:04,180 --> 01:26:06,260
You know, Godzilla is a product of nuclear testing.
1614
01:26:08,180 --> 01:26:09,300
Nuclear arms.
1615
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:15,060
And so Sarazawa sacrifices himself for the greater good of being able to pet Godzilla-
1616
01:26:15,060 --> 01:26:15,560
No, I'm kidding.
1617
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:22,100
Dr. Sarazawa sacrificed himself for the greater good of essentially reviving Godzilla
1618
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,620
so he can fight Ghidorah and win to save the earth.
1619
01:26:25,620 --> 01:26:28,740
And he's like, we can coexist with the Kaiju.
1620
01:26:30,260 --> 01:26:35,940
You have a perfect setup for Ren Sarazawa being an absolute villain.
1621
01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:37,700
And not because he's-
1622
01:26:38,420 --> 01:26:39,300
It's because you need a villain.
1623
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:48,180
You have such an awesome dynamic to explore of Ren hating Kaiju because his dad died for them.
1624
01:26:48,180 --> 01:26:53,540
I mean, it could be really difficult to come to terms with your father killing himself
1625
01:26:53,540 --> 01:26:54,340
to save a lizard.
1626
01:26:56,820 --> 01:27:01,300
And so you have this really cool dynamic and plot line that could have been explored,
1627
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:09,780
but he just kind of gets reduced to name drop twice and make a Godzilla pilot.
1628
01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:10,340
And if you're not-
1629
01:27:10,980 --> 01:27:15,060
The first time that we both saw this movie, I don't think either of us heard the name.
1630
01:27:15,060 --> 01:27:15,700
No.
1631
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:17,540
They go by really fast.
1632
01:27:17,540 --> 01:27:21,060
It is pretty easy to miss them say his name.
1633
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:26,580
Like, yeah, they say his name twice, fair, but there's never any sort of like,
1634
01:27:27,140 --> 01:27:32,340
they never dive into who they're like, there's no reference or conversation.
1635
01:27:32,340 --> 01:27:35,940
There's moment where like, I'm not saying you have to be like super explicit about it.
1636
01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:39,300
I appreciate when a movie attempts to be subtle, but this is not subtle.
1637
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:40,820
This is just not addressing it.
1638
01:27:40,820 --> 01:27:44,820
And I think they address it more in the novelization, but I don't read novelizations.
1639
01:27:44,820 --> 01:27:45,940
That's not why we're here.
1640
01:27:45,940 --> 01:27:47,780
Even though I love books, I don't read them.
1641
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:56,660
And so I have this also as an, I have this written down, though, more and more broadly,
1642
01:27:56,660 --> 01:27:58,740
it just says movie has a human villain problem.
1643
01:27:58,740 --> 01:28:00,900
Yeah. Who is the villain?
1644
01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:02,340
Yes. So I-
1645
01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:04,500
There's like, there's, but there's like three bad guys.
1646
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:06,260
You are bad guy, but not a bad guy.
1647
01:28:06,260 --> 01:28:06,760
Yeah.
1648
01:28:08,580 --> 01:28:14,020
There are like three bad guys that are more just like inconveniences.
1649
01:28:14,020 --> 01:28:20,100
So I have, so I, normally we review movies that we like.
1650
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:21,300
So we like to end on a good thing.
1651
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:23,620
I ended up being more positive on this movie.
1652
01:28:23,620 --> 01:28:25,460
So I would be happy to end on a good thing.
1653
01:28:25,460 --> 01:28:30,020
Do you feel like you have a stronger point to end on with a, with an L or a dub?
1654
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:37,220
Definitely an L.
1655
01:28:37,780 --> 01:28:40,980
Okay. So then I will talk about just the villains then.
1656
01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:48,980
You have your two main human villains, theoretically, in, is his name Simmons or is it Simon?
1657
01:28:48,980 --> 01:28:49,620
It's Simmons.
1658
01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:52,580
If it's Simmons, it's kind of funny parallel back to Transformers.
1659
01:28:52,580 --> 01:28:53,620
I know that was the worst thing.
1660
01:28:53,620 --> 01:28:56,420
I've been waiting for you to make that joke and then you just leave me hanging.
1661
01:28:59,540 --> 01:29:04,740
You have Simmons and Sara Zawa and it should just be Sara Zawa.
1662
01:29:04,740 --> 01:29:05,940
I don't know why you need Simmons.
1663
01:29:05,940 --> 01:29:06,580
I agree.
1664
01:29:06,580 --> 01:29:09,780
You just don't have to be like, oh, I'm going to be like, oh, I'm going to be like,
1665
01:29:09,780 --> 01:29:13,060
I agree. You just don't need, and they both end up being killed.
1666
01:29:13,060 --> 01:29:16,500
They both have very little screen time because in weak motivation,
1667
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:18,180
Ren Sara Zawa probably worked for Monarch.
1668
01:29:19,460 --> 01:29:21,700
You probably could have had, sorry, I'm just going to talk more about,
1669
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:23,700
you probably could have had a really cool opportunity of,
1670
01:29:24,420 --> 01:29:27,940
because we see Mark twice in this film, a really cool opportunity of
1671
01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:31,780
Dr. Sara Zawa's son went missing.
1672
01:29:31,780 --> 01:29:32,260
Yeah.
1673
01:29:32,260 --> 01:29:33,540
He defected, defected.
1674
01:29:33,540 --> 01:29:34,740
I don't think you can do that in a company.
1675
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:41,140
But so you just need Ren Sara Zawa, make them the one character you don't,
1676
01:29:41,140 --> 01:29:45,460
because Simmons motivation is pretty much the same as, as Ren's anyways.
1677
01:29:48,500 --> 01:29:49,780
Did I say Ren is the same as Ren?
1678
01:29:50,980 --> 01:29:52,980
Simmons has the same motivation as Ren.
1679
01:29:52,980 --> 01:29:53,460
Yep.
1680
01:29:53,460 --> 01:29:58,020
So they, they're, they're totally unnecessary to have two characters,
1681
01:29:58,020 --> 01:30:00,180
give them both, make you one human villain.
1682
01:30:00,180 --> 01:30:08,340
And I think the shift you make, I would suggest, and this will lead more into my,
1683
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:12,980
my final L, which we'll talk about in a minute, is
1684
01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:22,980
Ghidorah, what ends up happening is Ghidorah's mind resurfaces and takes over as Mecha Godzilla.
1685
01:30:23,620 --> 01:30:27,300
And what, and what happens in the movie is that that overpowers and kills Ren.
1686
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:28,100
Fries him.
1687
01:30:28,100 --> 01:30:30,100
I would have what I think would have been cool.
1688
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:31,700
It'd been cheesy, but this series is cheesy.
1689
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:37,220
Have Ghidorah's consciousness take over Ren.
1690
01:30:37,940 --> 01:30:42,820
Then you can have a human who represents Ghidorah and can talk for him.
1691
01:30:44,020 --> 01:30:47,220
And you then have Ren become this kind of ultimate,
1692
01:30:49,540 --> 01:30:52,340
like, tragic character.
1693
01:30:52,340 --> 01:30:54,740
And then he builds Mecha Ghidorah.
1694
01:30:54,740 --> 01:30:55,780
Mecha Ghidorah.
1695
01:30:58,100 --> 01:30:58,420
Sure.
1696
01:30:58,420 --> 01:30:58,660
Why not?
1697
01:30:58,660 --> 01:30:59,380
That is a thing.
1698
01:30:59,380 --> 01:31:00,020
Don't look at me like that.
1699
01:31:00,020 --> 01:31:02,340
I don't know how that would happen in this movie.
1700
01:31:02,340 --> 01:31:03,220
I don't think he has time.
1701
01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:04,420
I'm just saying it could be a future thing.
1702
01:31:04,420 --> 01:31:09,380
That feels like a, like a kid playing with toys and then Mecha Godzilla comes in or Mecha Ghidorah.
1703
01:31:10,740 --> 01:31:14,340
So that's my suggestion to fix that.
1704
01:31:14,340 --> 01:31:16,100
I think it could totally have been done.
1705
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:23,620
And I think it's a very simple thing, but so what is your final dub for Godzilla versus Kong?
1706
01:31:23,620 --> 01:31:25,060
Godzilla like a fish?
1707
01:31:25,060 --> 01:31:25,300
Yep.
1708
01:31:27,300 --> 01:31:28,500
I wrote a joke one.
1709
01:31:29,540 --> 01:31:30,740
I'm trying to think what else is good.
1710
01:31:32,420 --> 01:31:32,820
Herm.
1711
01:31:33,940 --> 01:31:35,860
I can say mine if you need time to think.
1712
01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:36,500
Yeah, say yours.
1713
01:31:37,540 --> 01:31:43,460
I think this movie does a really good job of making Kong and Godzilla feel like different characters.
1714
01:31:44,500 --> 01:31:48,740
I think it would be very easy to think about Godzilla versus Kong and think it's just two
1715
01:31:48,740 --> 01:31:53,220
monsters taking swings at each other and they're not really distinct personalities.
1716
01:31:53,220 --> 01:31:56,340
What do you mean it's not just Kong and Godzilla duking it out for two?
1717
01:31:56,340 --> 01:31:58,660
No, they have, they are distinct characters.
1718
01:31:58,660 --> 01:32:04,100
Godzilla feels like a creature that's been at this for a very long time and is kind of just,
1719
01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:07,780
this is his job and he's a force of nature and he'll just show up and
1720
01:32:07,780 --> 01:32:11,540
destroy whoever's in his way and Kong feels a lot more sympathetic.
1721
01:32:13,460 --> 01:32:18,340
In this movie, while we know Godzilla has good motivations, he's still scary.
1722
01:32:18,340 --> 01:32:26,740
He's no, does not care about collateral damage, will destroy anything, is just on a war path.
1723
01:32:26,740 --> 01:32:30,980
Kong, we've seen, has some semblance of caring about humans,
1724
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:37,380
has a connection with at least a couple of them, is more fighting for his own survival.
1725
01:32:37,380 --> 01:32:40,340
Most of the movie, he's lost his family.
1726
01:32:41,220 --> 01:32:43,300
He's the one that we follow the most in the movie.
1727
01:32:44,020 --> 01:32:47,940
These are two different people and you kind of like hate Godzilla a little bit because I
1728
01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:52,100
feel like this movie makes you like Kong and therefore the fact that Godzilla is threatening him.
1729
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:52,600
Incorrect.
1730
01:32:55,860 --> 01:32:58,340
I end up siding with Kong through a lot of this movie.
1731
01:32:58,340 --> 01:33:02,100
I love both characters and I love that they team up at the end and they're great and I'm
1732
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:05,940
super excited for Godzilla X Kong to make it a buddy cop movie.
1733
01:33:05,940 --> 01:33:07,140
I think that's hilarious.
1734
01:33:07,140 --> 01:33:07,780
Good cop backup.
1735
01:33:07,780 --> 01:33:09,940
Looking forward to this developing more.
1736
01:33:09,940 --> 01:33:14,820
But yeah, I think that in this movie does successfully establish their two personalities
1737
01:33:14,820 --> 01:33:22,180
and I think ultimately that's this is what puts the movie over to being a good is that
1738
01:33:22,180 --> 01:33:27,060
not it has co-action sequences, but it has action sequence not between two giant CGI monsters,
1739
01:33:27,060 --> 01:33:33,780
but between two characters with actual personality who don't talk and it's all done visually.
1740
01:33:36,020 --> 01:33:37,860
Do you have a dub here?
1741
01:33:37,860 --> 01:33:41,700
Yeah, it's kind of along the same lines, but overall it is a good
1742
01:33:42,420 --> 01:33:44,500
stepping point for the next part of the franchise.
1743
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:45,000
Sure.
1744
01:33:46,580 --> 01:33:49,620
There's a whole hollow earth to explore.
1745
01:33:50,820 --> 01:33:55,460
There's a whole aspect of that to see what else is in the hollow earth.
1746
01:33:55,460 --> 01:33:56,420
So that's kind of it.
1747
01:33:57,700 --> 01:33:59,700
Okay, final L.
1748
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:03,220
Do you want to do you want to close?
1749
01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:03,860
Do you want to go now?
1750
01:34:03,860 --> 01:34:04,660
Yeah, I can go.
1751
01:34:06,420 --> 01:34:12,180
It's just I feel like every time I watch this I get engrossed with it and then it just
1752
01:34:12,180 --> 01:34:13,780
cuts back to Madison and the others.
1753
01:34:13,780 --> 01:34:14,340
Sure.
1754
01:34:14,340 --> 01:34:17,300
And I'm like, oh yeah, they're in this film.
1755
01:34:17,300 --> 01:34:17,860
Yeah.
1756
01:34:17,860 --> 01:34:25,300
And it just feels like they don't really contribute much except to be there to save the main character
1757
01:34:25,300 --> 01:34:27,140
to save Godzilla and Kong at the end.
1758
01:34:27,140 --> 01:34:27,940
Mm-hmm.
1759
01:34:27,940 --> 01:34:33,780
They pour the podcasters whiskey or whatever on the keyboard, which you think if this was
1760
01:34:33,780 --> 01:34:37,700
like a multi-billion dollar establishment they could afford to waterproof their tech.
1761
01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:43,300
Anyways, which causes like Mechagodzilla to short out in a way.
1762
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:48,420
But I don't know, it's just kind of like, I don't know, I thought I wrote down a note
1763
01:34:48,420 --> 01:34:52,740
that Maddie definitely takes after her mom in this film, which is not a good thing.
1764
01:34:55,620 --> 01:34:56,260
I don't know.
1765
01:34:56,260 --> 01:35:00,820
I granted she probably has a lot of trauma to process through after the last film, but
1766
01:35:00,820 --> 01:35:08,100
it just, I don't know, it's like they're there.
1767
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:08,740
Yeah.
1768
01:35:08,740 --> 01:35:12,020
And I don't really care for it.
1769
01:35:13,060 --> 01:35:19,860
I think the other thing that was not annoying was that they were trying so hard to establish
1770
01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:25,780
Josh as like the Ned character from like the Spider-Man Marvel movies.
1771
01:35:25,780 --> 01:35:28,420
Ned being Peter Parker's best friend in MCU.
1772
01:35:28,420 --> 01:35:32,420
The quote unquote guy in the chair.
1773
01:35:32,420 --> 01:35:38,660
It's like they, it really felt like they were pushing that so hard and it was, I don't know.
1774
01:35:39,780 --> 01:35:41,380
No shade to the actors.
1775
01:35:41,380 --> 01:35:41,540
Sure.
1776
01:35:41,540 --> 01:35:42,820
No, yeah, it's all writing.
1777
01:35:42,820 --> 01:35:45,140
It's like what they were given for the written.
1778
01:35:45,140 --> 01:35:46,420
It's just really kind of like, okay.
1779
01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:50,740
It's like they're like, we need to add in these characters at some point.
1780
01:35:50,740 --> 01:35:56,020
But Millie Bobby Brown is probably filming for Stranger Things season four right now,
1781
01:35:56,020 --> 01:35:58,580
so we only have her for like four days.
1782
01:35:58,580 --> 01:36:02,420
Yeah, I think if you wanted to, I'm suggesting simplify this film,
1783
01:36:02,980 --> 01:36:04,420
you just cut out those characters.
1784
01:36:04,420 --> 01:36:06,980
You don't need to bring back Millie Bobby Brown.
1785
01:36:06,980 --> 01:36:12,980
I know they probably think that she's a draw, but maybe there's a contract thing, but like-
1786
01:36:12,980 --> 01:36:14,740
She's not in the next one, I don't think.
1787
01:36:14,740 --> 01:36:15,940
Yeah, exactly.
1788
01:36:15,940 --> 01:36:16,900
I think-
1789
01:36:16,900 --> 01:36:20,820
I think each Godzilla movie has its set human cast, except for Dr. Serizawa.
1790
01:36:20,820 --> 01:36:21,620
He can be in all of them.
1791
01:36:21,620 --> 01:36:26,820
I think you could very easily cut out all the stuff with the podcast squad,
1792
01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:31,860
because their big thing that they uncover is that-
1793
01:36:31,860 --> 01:36:32,660
Apex is trying.
1794
01:36:32,660 --> 01:36:34,100
Apex is making mechagodzilla.
1795
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:35,860
That doesn't need to be a mystery.
1796
01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:44,180
You have, you have Simon's daughter with the squad following Kong around.
1797
01:36:44,180 --> 01:36:48,340
She's enough of a mystery to keep letting us know that there's something that they're doing.
1798
01:36:48,340 --> 01:36:55,460
Yeah. If anything, if you feel like you really need Simmons in this movie, you send-
1799
01:36:57,540 --> 01:36:58,340
Oh, okay.
1800
01:36:58,340 --> 01:37:00,740
So here's how you really simplify this movie.
1801
01:37:00,740 --> 01:37:09,300
You get rid of both Simmons, you make Serizawa the CEO of Apex, you make that a twist.
1802
01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:10,500
You don't tell us that.
1803
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:13,140
You make it seem as though Serizawa is still working for Monarch.
1804
01:37:13,140 --> 01:37:18,260
He convinces Eileen to go to the Hollow Earth.
1805
01:37:18,260 --> 01:37:20,660
We get there, he turns on them there.
1806
01:37:20,660 --> 01:37:22,100
Corporate sabotage.
1807
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:26,500
And then he takes whatever he finds, takes it back up to earth, reveals that he's the one who's been,
1808
01:37:26,500 --> 01:37:28,580
he's the leader of Apex.
1809
01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:32,500
He then activates mechagodzilla.
1810
01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:33,220
It goes from there.
1811
01:37:33,220 --> 01:37:34,420
You should write this as a fan fiction.
1812
01:37:34,420 --> 01:37:35,380
You're really simplifying.
1813
01:37:35,380 --> 01:37:38,420
The movie is really streamlined, much simpler.
1814
01:37:38,420 --> 01:37:42,420
We don't waste time with the, I don't know if you want to say Susan.
1815
01:37:42,420 --> 01:37:43,620
I almost can't say Suicide Squad.
1816
01:37:43,620 --> 01:37:47,780
The podcast squad, Serizawa is a, you have a better human villain.
1817
01:37:47,780 --> 01:37:56,900
Now, an idea that the podcast squad introduces that is, I mean, maybe this is not their intention,
1818
01:37:56,900 --> 01:37:58,020
but I feel like it is.
1819
01:37:58,020 --> 01:38:05,540
And this is again, why I wanted a human to represent mechagodzilla slash Ghidorah.
1820
01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:10,820
There are human groups that represent the three parties involved in this movie.
1821
01:38:10,820 --> 01:38:12,820
Godzilla, Kong, Mechagodzilla.
1822
01:38:12,820 --> 01:38:17,940
You have Gaia especially is the human who is attached to Kong.
1823
01:38:17,940 --> 01:38:18,660
Gia.
1824
01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:19,540
Gia.
1825
01:38:19,540 --> 01:38:25,620
You have Maddie, who is a human who thinks Godzilla is a good in her squad.
1826
01:38:25,620 --> 01:38:26,120
Same.
1827
01:38:28,020 --> 01:38:30,500
One biggest issue, these humans never interact.
1828
01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:31,700
Yeah, they never meet.
1829
01:38:31,700 --> 01:38:36,500
Gaia and Maddie never, Gia and Maddie never meet.
1830
01:38:38,820 --> 01:38:39,700
Why?
1831
01:38:39,700 --> 01:38:43,220
Why are they, that's, I just, 100% the entire time I'm watching this movie,
1832
01:38:43,220 --> 01:38:46,660
assuming these characters are going to talk and disagree with one another.
1833
01:38:46,660 --> 01:38:50,580
Because each of them thinks Kong or Godzilla is the one that they need to be helping.
1834
01:38:51,300 --> 01:38:59,140
And the idea of having humans represent each monster is a, I think an incredible,
1835
01:38:59,140 --> 01:39:04,340
like when the series, this whole genre struggles to make humans relevant,
1836
01:39:05,060 --> 01:39:07,940
make them represent the monsters.
1837
01:39:07,940 --> 01:39:09,940
The movie totally fails on that element.
1838
01:39:12,980 --> 01:39:14,340
Gaia is a-
1839
01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:14,820
Gia.
1840
01:39:14,820 --> 01:39:15,620
Gia, thank you.
1841
01:39:15,620 --> 01:39:16,340
Oh my gosh.
1842
01:39:16,340 --> 01:39:20,820
Gia is a really good representation of Kong,
1843
01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:25,940
but Millie Bobby Brown does not have any actual connection to Godzilla.
1844
01:39:25,940 --> 01:39:28,660
But even then, she believes in him.
1845
01:39:29,780 --> 01:39:33,220
If anything, Mark probably would have had a better connection to Godzilla.
1846
01:39:33,220 --> 01:39:37,380
Millie Bobby Brown wasn't really around Godzilla at all.
1847
01:39:37,380 --> 01:39:38,500
It was more Mark.
1848
01:39:40,180 --> 01:39:46,100
So that's my biggest L for the movie is that the humans, there's a structure there set up.
1849
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:56,340
So I think in my ideal film, you have three humans, each of which represent our three characters.
1850
01:39:56,980 --> 01:40:00,420
And instead at the end, they don't really interact.
1851
01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:03,860
The humans that represent Mecha-Gizmo are killed almost immediately.
1852
01:40:05,700 --> 01:40:10,020
And Millie Bobby Brown spends the whole film just uncovering a mystery
1853
01:40:10,020 --> 01:40:12,660
that's not really a mystery and it's not really there for a good reason.
1854
01:40:15,140 --> 01:40:20,900
So while I do think the movie actually, I do end up having a more positive perspective on it now.
1855
01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:22,660
It does have some very glaring issues.
1856
01:40:24,500 --> 01:40:27,620
I would love to see how this film was originally intended, though.
1857
01:40:27,620 --> 01:40:28,980
I don't know what all was cut out.
1858
01:40:28,980 --> 01:40:34,180
I don't love the idea of this movie being longer, but if it gives us more Sarazawa,
1859
01:40:34,180 --> 01:40:35,380
can we get a director's cut?
1860
01:40:35,380 --> 01:40:38,660
It gives us more purpose for Millie Bobby Brown's character.
1861
01:40:38,660 --> 01:40:41,220
Maybe the movie feels more fleshed out.
1862
01:40:41,220 --> 01:40:43,620
I'm definitely here for more Hollow Earth stuff.
1863
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:45,300
Maybe we get to see that in the upcoming film.
1864
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:45,780
Yes.
1865
01:40:46,340 --> 01:40:48,100
Maybe they folded some of those ideas in.
1866
01:40:49,620 --> 01:40:54,420
So my favorite segment are three, or I have more than three, hmms.
1867
01:40:54,420 --> 01:40:58,180
I have more than three, hmms.
1868
01:40:58,180 --> 01:41:02,660
There's a line, we kind of talked about it, where I think it's probably Eileen says,
1869
01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:05,220
Godzilla will kill Kong as soon as he leaves this island.
1870
01:41:06,020 --> 01:41:11,220
That quote is just funny to me because I just love the idea of the second Godzilla or Kong
1871
01:41:11,220 --> 01:41:12,420
steps off the island.
1872
01:41:12,420 --> 01:41:16,420
Godzilla just snipes him from the other side of the earth with his atomic blast.
1873
01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:21,540
The character, what is his name?
1874
01:41:21,540 --> 01:41:25,940
Bernie, the podcaster, describes his podcast as a Titan truth podcast.
1875
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:32,420
We do get a really funny comment from Mark to Maddie when she's talking about it.
1876
01:41:32,420 --> 01:41:33,780
And Mark is Maddie's dad.
1877
01:41:33,780 --> 01:41:35,300
Yeah, Mark is Maddie's dad from the last movie.
1878
01:41:35,300 --> 01:41:38,500
And he says, that podcast is filling your head with garbage.
1879
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:42,340
That is one of my, every time I talk about the podcast is on my list.
1880
01:41:42,340 --> 01:41:50,900
We hear one of Bernie's podcast and he says, this might be my last episode.
1881
01:41:50,900 --> 01:41:51,620
What is the quote?
1882
01:41:51,620 --> 01:41:54,900
I think that we might need to start saying this because it's funny.
1883
01:41:56,580 --> 01:41:58,340
That podcast is filling your head with garbage.
1884
01:41:58,340 --> 01:41:58,900
Very funny.
1885
01:41:59,460 --> 01:42:05,540
Godzilla laughs at one point, which is very, why does he laugh?
1886
01:42:05,540 --> 01:42:06,180
And you remember?
1887
01:42:06,180 --> 01:42:07,460
He hurts Kong.
1888
01:42:07,460 --> 01:42:07,960
Yeah.
1889
01:42:08,740 --> 01:42:11,460
Does he like destroy the axe or?
1890
01:42:11,460 --> 01:42:15,300
I think he does something that hurts Kong's arm.
1891
01:42:16,180 --> 01:42:16,740
Oh yeah.
1892
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:18,420
He cuts him or something.
1893
01:42:18,420 --> 01:42:23,460
He goes, pretty much once Godzilla finishes boring the whole earth,
1894
01:42:24,340 --> 01:42:29,060
Kong and Godzilla are on opposite ends of the hole and they just scream at each other,
1895
01:42:29,060 --> 01:42:34,500
which is one of the most either intentionally or unintentionally hilarious moments in the scene.
1896
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:41,380
Then you have, so you have them on hundreds of miles apart, if not thousands of miles apart,
1897
01:42:41,380 --> 01:42:42,260
yelling at each other.
1898
01:42:42,260 --> 01:42:45,940
And then you also have a scene where they are in each other's face and they yell at each other,
1899
01:42:45,940 --> 01:42:47,300
which is also very funny.
1900
01:42:48,820 --> 01:42:53,220
I guess these aren't as much as they are, but like in a movie that might be trying to take
1901
01:42:53,220 --> 01:42:55,220
itself seriously, it makes you go, hmm.
1902
01:42:59,700 --> 01:43:06,820
The podcast squad accidentally gets themselves locked in a pod that, no pun intended.
1903
01:43:06,820 --> 01:43:08,740
It's a, like a traveling pod.
1904
01:43:08,740 --> 01:43:10,500
We're locked in this pod right now.
1905
01:43:10,500 --> 01:43:13,300
Apex has like a series of tunnels they use to like,
1906
01:43:15,140 --> 01:43:18,020
very high speeds transport things back and forth.
1907
01:43:18,020 --> 01:43:22,180
And this thing can reach seemingly up like a 700 miles per hour.
1908
01:43:22,180 --> 01:43:26,420
And the podcast squad is just in it with no harnesses or anything.
1909
01:43:27,060 --> 01:43:31,140
Theoretically, they should just be mush by the time they get to their destination.
1910
01:43:31,140 --> 01:43:40,900
Yeah. The point at which Mechagodzilla is taken over by Ghidorah's consciousness,
1911
01:43:40,900 --> 01:43:45,940
you have CEO Simmons in the foreground and Mechagodzilla in the background.
1912
01:43:45,940 --> 01:43:51,460
And his head, he's out of focus and his head just slowly turns and he just slowly creeps up on him.
1913
01:43:51,460 --> 01:43:53,380
Yeah, the 250,000 ton.
1914
01:43:54,580 --> 01:43:55,860
Metal on metal.
1915
01:43:55,860 --> 01:43:59,700
And finally, you kind of, you mentioned it.
1916
01:44:01,220 --> 01:44:05,140
The final way in which the humans help the outcome, they're trying,
1917
01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:08,340
or the podcast squad is trying to figure out how to shut down Mechagodzilla.
1918
01:44:08,340 --> 01:44:11,140
Because they get locked out from too many bad password attempts.
1919
01:44:11,860 --> 01:44:23,300
And Bernie goes to drink out of a flask and Josh takes it and dumps it on the computer.
1920
01:44:23,300 --> 01:44:27,620
And that's how they're able to momentarily weaken Mechagodzilla.
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Great. Not even Millie Bobby Brown does it.
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She's kind of just there. She's trying to call her dad.
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I don't know what Mark's going to do.
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So that's my last hmm. Do you have any hmms?
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I do. My one was Godzilla born through the earth.
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I'm just saying that would be horrible for everything involved.
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Also, the end of the movie is kind of triumphant.
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Kong survived, Godzilla survived, the big evil is done.
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Is this the end of Apex?
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It sure kind of seems that-
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The CEO and his daughter are dead.
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Their PR on Twitter is, whoever runs their social media account is going to be going,
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get some crazy overtime.
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So it's kind of like triumphant. Kong survived, Godzilla survived,
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Maddie reunites with her dad.
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What's-his-face Skarsgard lives after he got like,
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how many volts of electricity to the chest?
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A rather triumphant ending,
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despite the fact that probably like 500,000 people died in that, in the last 24 hours.
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So the population of Hong Kong is about 7.5 million with about 100 to 200,000 tourists a day.
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And it was in the heart of Hong Kong, downtown.
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Yeah, we didn't really even talk about Mechagodzilla much.
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He's Godzilla, but he also has like lasers and missiles and stuff.
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And those things are flying all over the place.
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Even before that, Godzilla and Kong are destroying entire skyscrapers.
1946
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They are destroying people left and right.
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Godzilla took out a bridge with just cars and cars on it.
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So right in the heart of downtown, so you have this like kind of triumphant.
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And then like half a million people are probably dead.
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My other, hmm.
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So if you didn't see the end credits scene, or listen to our last episode of King of the Monsters,
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there is, you might be wondering how in the world did they get a Ghidorah skull
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when Godzilla burned them all up at the end of the movie?
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01:46:31,860 --> 01:46:37,140
Well, there's an after credit scene with the main villain, Jonah, Charles Dance.
1955
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They have fished, or someone has fished that Ghidorah skull from the head Godzilla ripped out outside
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in the ocean before they got oxygen bombed.
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That is where that skull comes from.
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And they sell it to Charles Dance or whatever.
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Who seemingly sells it to Apex.
1960
01:46:54,740 --> 01:46:56,740
Yeah, who seemingly sells it to Apex, but I-
1961
01:46:56,740 --> 01:47:00,100
Who in an off screen scene goes, I don't want to be in these movies anymore.
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Please take this monster head.
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It's just kind of like, okay, Charles Dance probably didn't want to be in the movie.
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Okay, Charles Dance probably didn't want to be in it.
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Okay, cool. Get that.
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01:47:10,740 --> 01:47:17,140
But you do have this character, I almost said Jonah Hill, of this villain who was
1967
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ready to destroy humanity, well, the majority, except for himself, because you know, that's,
1968
01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:31,060
and he just, I don't know, he, surely he didn't just retire to some beach house, you know,
1969
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or he just sold enough money and said, I'm just going to go off grid for the rest of my life.
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I don't know. He seems too driven to just go, peace out. Good luck with that.
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So I don't know. Maybe he like croaked between films, his character.
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Radiation poisoning.
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You know, he might have, but so yeah, it's just, I don't know.
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I thought it was just kind of interesting. So.
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Yep. Any last notes on Godzilla versus Kong?
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You had a very funny comment that I didn't get to talk about yet.
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Okay.
1978
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This is before they go into the hollow earth and
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Simmons daughter is talking about like the ships they're about to take into the hollow earth.
1980
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I think Skarsgard said, makes a comment that he's like, if your helicopters are as good as
1981
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:22,020
you say they are, and she corrects him and says heaves as in H E A V S plural.
1982
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That's what they're called. They're short for something.
1983
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Cameron just, you just said that's what everyone watching this film is doing.
1984
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And it was just, it was just, it was really, really, really funny.
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I've got it. Got a good old kick. If you don't know what heaves means, it means to throw up.
1986
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So that's really all I got.
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Puking as a result of watching this film is our final note we're going to end on.
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Godzilla threw up or not Godzilla. Kong threw up in this film.
1989
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A bunch of water after he almost drowned.
1990
01:48:53,540 --> 01:48:56,740
Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. I forgot about that.
1991
01:48:56,740 --> 01:49:03,060
Uh, so meme minute, but it's longer than a minute. Finally, meme parsec, meme astro second.
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I have two videos. Oh, I've got a video too. What's your first one?
1993
01:49:05,780 --> 01:49:07,540
Well, what toy commercial are you showing this week?
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How did you know? Oh man. It's almost, I've been a pattern.
1995
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I can't believe you predicted that. That's why you're right.
1996
01:49:21,460 --> 01:49:29,860
So this is a very fun, if anyone's seen Madagascar for context, you have, um, Godzilla face, uh,
1997
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Photoshopped over Alex the lion and, um, Kong's over
1998
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the zebra Monte. Marty. Marty. And so, um,
1999
01:49:42,260 --> 01:49:50,180
I'm running toward each other. And they're pyramids.
2000
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Photoshopped, which is a reference to the trailer for the new movie.
2001
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Godzilla's face just morphed into being pink.
2002
01:50:02,340 --> 01:50:18,180
So I do have a toy commercial. The last few weeks, I've had different Godzilla versus Kong toy
2003
01:50:18,180 --> 01:50:23,860
commercials this week. This is a classic, like eighties, uh, Godzilla toy commercial that I
2004
01:50:23,860 --> 01:50:35,620
just found very funny and thought you might enjoy. He's like smooth and got a round head.
2005
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His ugly tongue. And in the same theme as the, Oh, oh, you missed it. Rachel, you got to see this.
2006
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This is, this is the big reason. You can just, what God's you've seen the classic one. Is there a
2007
01:50:56,420 --> 01:51:02,180
Godzilla movie where he can just shoot his hand out of his arm? I remember. I've seen a lot of them.
2008
01:51:03,940 --> 01:51:09,780
So as per has become somewhat tradition now, these commercials showing toys doing very mundane
2009
01:51:09,780 --> 01:51:17,460
things. They're just using the Godzilla toy to knock over sandcastles. It's so mundane. I love it.
2010
01:51:17,460 --> 01:51:23,620
I love how smooth and round he is. I love that he fires his fist and that a selling point that you
2011
01:51:23,620 --> 01:51:31,700
can make him stick out his tongue. Oh, this commercial cracks me up. So I have a TikTok
2012
01:51:31,700 --> 01:51:40,900
that might be a little poorly aged, aged like fine milk within the last two weeks from the quiet
2013
01:51:40,900 --> 01:51:49,460
onset documentary. Oh, well, I think it'd be ready to cut this. Be ready. So it's a clip from Drake
2014
01:51:49,460 --> 01:51:57,940
and Josh. It's captioned. We are going head first in some dangerous waters here, man.
2015
01:51:57,940 --> 01:52:03,700
So with Oprah or Oprah off screen where you can remember that I didn't watch much Drake and Josh.
2016
01:52:03,700 --> 01:52:09,700
I think I remember this POV. It's March 31st, 2021. And you and bro are driving together while
2017
01:52:09,700 --> 01:52:24,740
Kong and Godzilla are about to fight to the death. And it's, it's color graded to the Hong Kong color
2018
01:52:24,740 --> 01:52:33,060
like palaces of neon to the end of Godzilla versus Kong. What a bizarre edit. And I saved it.
2019
01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:38,340
And then I went and then like two days later, I was like, oh crap.
2020
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:43,620
So how many image memes do you have? Hold on. I got counting. I was counting.
2021
01:52:43,620 --> 01:52:44,980
Then you talked to me and I lost count.
2022
01:52:47,780 --> 01:52:52,500
I'm very happy to have disrupted your mental process. What is a podcast? I mean,
2023
01:52:52,500 --> 01:53:00,020
I got 11. 11. Okay. Then I will also do 11. How many do you have? 22. Oh my gosh. I have
2024
01:53:00,020 --> 01:53:03,540
some carry over words. I had a lot last week that I didn't get to show cause you didn't,
2025
01:53:03,540 --> 01:53:07,220
you had a lot fewer than normal. I'm not going to show. I'm going to show 11. We're
2026
01:53:07,220 --> 01:53:15,140
going to have like 30 next week. Okay. In two weeks. Cause what is time? So this is got the,
2027
01:53:15,140 --> 01:53:21,140
the shy emoji and the two fingers pointing towards each other. And it just says,
2028
01:53:21,140 --> 01:53:24,420
what if we held hands and kissed while sharing the Godzilla sippy cup?
2029
01:53:25,860 --> 01:53:29,540
Wait, it's got two straws. I don't have that one.
2030
01:53:29,540 --> 01:53:35,060
Didn't you show that last week? Did I? I didn't remember showing it. It's possible that I did.
2031
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:41,860
Let's check the Twitter account. I can finally go on Twitter again.
2032
01:53:43,380 --> 01:53:47,700
Oh, speaking of which, and this, this little down moment, if you have any interest in watching
2033
01:53:47,700 --> 01:53:53,380
Godzilla X Kong, do not look up anything about it. They have shown way too much.
2034
01:53:53,380 --> 01:53:58,740
I was just about to say, if I could browse the, if people could stop posting every single screenshot
2035
01:53:58,740 --> 01:54:05,300
from the entire film, that would be fantastic. I know way too much about this movie. I'm so mad.
2036
01:54:05,300 --> 01:54:12,180
But maybe I think I sent that meme to you. Oh, really? I don't, I don't, I remember seeing it.
2037
01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:15,780
I really thought I would say, but it's possible you saw it and maybe I saw it and I was like,
2038
01:54:15,780 --> 01:54:18,100
should I put that on the podcast? Or maybe it's not possible that you saw it. I don't know.
2039
01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:22,500
Maybe I mean it. But yeah, if you're posting every single screenshot from the movie, stop it.
2040
01:54:23,140 --> 01:54:27,060
Get, stop it. Get some help. All right. What's your next meme?
2041
01:54:29,140 --> 01:54:34,980
Clone Wars meme. Maul sets up elaborate scheme to get Obi-Wan to fight him on Mandalore. Obi-Wan
2042
01:54:34,980 --> 01:54:48,980
sends Ahsoka instead Maul. Very good. It's a Photoshop picture of Mike Wazowski with two eyes
2043
01:54:48,980 --> 01:54:57,140
and the Maul paint scheme on his, on his, and he's holding, he's holding, very deadpan face holding
2044
01:54:57,140 --> 01:55:02,820
the lights. Historians are going to have such a hell of a time trying to understand what the heck
2045
01:55:02,820 --> 01:55:12,660
was going on this period of history. So this seems to be an image from either a, like a
2046
01:55:14,340 --> 01:55:20,500
storyboard or a comic for Godzilla versus King Ghidorah. And it's King Ghidorah, two of his heads
2047
01:55:20,500 --> 01:55:25,940
biting onto Godzilla's feet. And then it's just an image of Godzilla bonking him on the head. He
2048
01:55:25,940 --> 01:55:38,420
says bonk, go to horny jail. Also poorly aged. Um, some days you're Godzilla and some days you're Tokyo.
2049
01:55:40,580 --> 01:55:46,740
I like that. That's good. That's fun. I've got a similar one. Uh, saying my life sucks when things
2050
01:55:46,740 --> 01:55:52,020
go wrong, self-deprecating, depressing, makes you sad. Saying Godzilla wouldn't want this for me
2051
01:55:52,020 --> 01:55:56,900
when things go wrong. Motivating reminds you about Godzilla reminds you that Godzilla cares about you.
2052
01:55:59,060 --> 01:56:04,260
Oh, that's so nice. I'm gonna start saying that to myself. Godzilla wouldn't want this. Um,
2053
01:56:04,980 --> 01:56:11,620
just have a set of images. Goaded, uh, goaded trilogy question mark. G-O-A-T.
2054
01:56:11,620 --> 01:56:16,180
Oppenheimer, Godzilla minus one Pacific. Very good.
2055
01:56:16,180 --> 01:56:22,260
Uh, it's just a picture of Godzilla minus one and it says this guy didn't win an Oscar till he was 70
2056
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:29,060
years old has started 38 movies. Never stop following your dreams. You want me to see it at least? Nice.
2057
01:56:32,500 --> 01:56:41,140
Uh, acolyte meme. Oh, it's the scene with, with the Padawans. Close your eyes. I said close. Oh,
2058
01:56:41,140 --> 01:56:46,820
right. And it's the alien Padawan who can't close his eyes and it's just Photoshopped like a KFC
2059
01:56:46,820 --> 01:56:53,700
bucket over his head. That's good stuff. I saw that one too. Give me just a second here.
2060
01:56:56,020 --> 01:56:58,420
Oh, that didn't work. Okay. Um,
2061
01:56:58,420 --> 01:57:08,180
so it's, this one, this one gets me, man. It's silly. Uh, it's this like hot wheel of Godzilla,
2062
01:57:08,180 --> 01:57:14,900
but he's just kind of this like, it's like, Oh, I hate that. And then under it is just Ryan
2063
01:57:14,900 --> 01:57:20,580
Gosling from Drive just sitting in just like dramatically in a car. And then he's just like,
2064
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:24,900
Oh, I hate that. And then under it is just Ryan Gosling from Drive just sitting in just like
2065
01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:34,260
dramatically in a car. It's hard to explain, but it gets me. You made that one. Um, uh, self
2066
01:57:34,260 --> 01:57:41,140
explanatory King of the Monsters meme. King. Oh, very good. So it's King of the Hill, but it just
2067
01:57:41,140 --> 01:57:46,180
has the four different monsters from King of the Monsters. That's good. I like that one. The alley
2068
01:57:46,180 --> 01:57:54,820
shot. Uh, our tests have determined that you are the father and it's an image of Yoda with his eyes
2069
01:57:54,820 --> 01:58:01,460
big and then, Oh, Manila. Is that really his name? His name is Godzilla's like son from the old
2070
01:58:01,460 --> 01:58:14,500
movies. Like, like Minizilla. I like how their faces. Yeah. Hey, I'm comfortable. Uh, that's
2071
01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:21,780
cool. Uh, let me know when you get to your last meme. I have like five more. Okay. Cool. I just
2072
01:58:21,780 --> 01:58:28,100
ahead of time. I bring a sort of indiscriminate mass destruction vibe to Tokyo Bay that the JSDF
2073
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:35,060
don't really like. Which Godzilla is that? Or is that a different monster? It is. It is Godzilla.
2074
01:58:35,060 --> 01:58:40,660
It's I can't, I don't know if it's from forever wars, um, or like it's, it's one of like the
2075
01:58:40,660 --> 01:58:49,220
nineties eighties. I see therapist Gargar Binks. Binks isn't real. Can't hurt you. Gargar Binks.
2076
01:58:49,860 --> 01:58:57,860
And it's a, uh, it's like a Garfish with the head of it's like an AI generated gar with
2077
01:58:57,860 --> 01:59:05,620
Jar Jar Binks head. I don't like that. Um, you've heard of elf on the shelf. Now get ready for
2078
01:59:05,620 --> 01:59:16,020
Godzilla on a manila, the nilla, like vanilla wafer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zilla on the nilla.
2079
01:59:17,060 --> 01:59:23,940
Great. It's a bunch of Godzilla's Photoshopped on the vanilla wafers. That's Photoshop.
2080
01:59:24,900 --> 01:59:29,380
Are you sure? Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. Remember, they don't make vanilla wafers that big.
2081
01:59:29,380 --> 01:59:36,260
Remember Po from Kung Fu Panda? Well, they named a country after him. Po Poland.
2082
01:59:48,660 --> 01:59:53,220
My parents at 26, let's get married. Me at 26. I love Godzilla.
2083
01:59:53,220 --> 02:00:04,660
Are you 26? I'm 28. I don't. We're not 25. We're not Doxie and Amazons.
2084
02:00:07,700 --> 02:00:13,860
Okay. So you have the meme, the broader meme format where you take an image with that
2085
02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:17,220
character saying something and then people black out letters to make it say something else.
2086
02:00:17,220 --> 02:00:24,740
And it's, uh, uh, I'm forgetting his name. The turtle from Kung Fu Panda.
2087
02:00:27,140 --> 02:00:31,940
And it's the part where he says, my time has come, but it says when someone steals your taco,
2088
02:00:31,940 --> 02:00:36,820
my taco. And he's crying. You can make that one too.
2089
02:00:36,820 --> 02:00:47,140
This is some of the worst podcasting. It's just us giggling to ourselves. It's so dumb.
2090
02:00:48,980 --> 02:01:00,180
Yeah. I have like stopped listening to this segment. It's fun to record, but it's terrible
2091
02:01:00,180 --> 02:01:10,900
to listen. What the no. Why? Who thought of this? Why am I looking closer? It's awful. It's Shane
2092
02:01:10,900 --> 02:01:16,740
Godzilla. It's Sheen. Sheen. Sheen Godzilla. Sheen from Jimmy Nuts. Oh, but he's photoshopped.
2093
02:01:16,740 --> 02:01:21,620
Like they combined his qualities with Shin Godzilla. Oh, I'm going to puke. That makes me
2094
02:01:21,620 --> 02:01:28,020
want to puke thinking about it. It's awful. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. I hate you so
2095
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:36,740
much. So this is, I got two more. Okay. This is an image of like a, like a Godzilla suit,
2096
02:01:36,740 --> 02:01:40,980
but it's just empty and laying on the ground. It looks like he's dead and says he ate without
2097
02:01:40,980 --> 02:01:59,860
YouTube. Me. Me at work. My stomach hurts. Is it really worth it? And it's a picture of OG Toho
2098
02:01:59,860 --> 02:02:06,900
Godzilla or Mecha Godzilla. And it's got a red circle from his ear and it's zoomed in.
2099
02:02:06,900 --> 02:02:12,820
It's a baby bell cheese. Is it really worth it? Such as is it worth to harvest the baby bell
2100
02:02:12,820 --> 02:02:20,180
cheese for Mecha Godzilla's? So there's this Simpson's format. They're trying to build like
2101
02:02:20,180 --> 02:02:24,420
a shed or something and he's holding up with the shed should look like, and it says that's one fine
2102
02:02:24,420 --> 02:02:30,500
looking Showa era tribute you've got there and it's Godzilla final Wars pulls it down. Why does it
2103
02:02:30,500 --> 02:02:40,740
mine look like that? It's Godzilla X Kong. My last one, me when accidentally opened the front camera.
2104
02:02:40,740 --> 02:02:47,780
Oh, it's like a mask. It's a Rodan mask. It's like a rubber Rodan mask. Very triple chin.
2105
02:02:47,780 --> 02:02:59,780
So we've got a chunk chart for Godzilla. Fine boy, original Godzilla. Then he chomp, a heckin
2106
02:02:59,780 --> 02:03:05,700
chonker, hefty chonk, mega chonker, all laud he come in. It's Godzilla as he gets bigger and
2107
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:12,260
bigger. I should have added a skinny one for Shin. He's a little malnourished. Uh huh. Yeah,
2108
02:03:12,260 --> 02:03:18,340
things that didn't, that video, that one didn't age quite so well.
2109
02:03:22,660 --> 02:03:27,300
Was that your last one? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, I just, I had more to share, but I guess not.
2110
02:03:27,300 --> 02:03:33,540
Okay, um, question. Sure. Out of the 11 you showed me, the one you made is in it, right? Yes.
2111
02:03:33,540 --> 02:03:40,340
Considering you had 22. Can you imagine? It's actually none of them. Wait, no, I didn't show
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it. Let me show you one more. It's definitely not mine. Tune in next week to see Cameron's meme.
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All right, here comes the memes. I'm sick. Here comes the memes. Here comes the meme.
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My stomach hurts from laughing too much. Okay.
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I'm a little torn. Who's making Kung Fu Panda memes right now?
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I'm pretty sure I sent this, the Godzilla cup thing. So we got Darth Maul,
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two-eyed Mike Wazowski, some days your Godzilla, some days your Tokyo got goaded trilogy.
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Close your eyes. I saw the close your eyes one with the KFC bucket. It was a good one. King of
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the Monsters. That's real good. I like that one a lot. I bring a sort of indiscriminate mass
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destruction vibe to Tokyo Bay. Got an elf on the shelf. If you made, I don't remember exactly what
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it looked like, but I did see it, if not this exact one, a very similar to one that my parents
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had at 26 and me at 26. If you made this Sheen Godzilla one, I'm just going to end the podcast.
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Mia accidentally, Mia went accidentally open the front camera. Man, I'm not sure. There's not one
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that really jumps out to me. My best guess would be, is it King of the Monsters? King of the Hill?
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Did you make that one? I have not guessed correctly in so long. Really funny, Rachel. I like that one
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a lot. That was what I thought of last week and I was like, oh dang it. I just randomly made mine
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today. I was like, I was going to go for a different thing. And then I just suddenly thought of this one
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at the very last second. Meme game. So we are on week 25 and Rachel is at 16 and nine. Not bad.
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No, no, you haven't got yours yet. I already marked you up as last.
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I was so good. So I'm at 13 and 13 so I've just gotten back up to even now.
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Some of these are some like not niche but some some deep
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Godzilla references that I don't think you would make. Perhaps. I don't feel like you looked at all
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the different sizes of Godzilla. You also, I don't think if you've seen a single show of
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Godzilla film. When do those start? Wait, no, that's the original one. I've seen the original one.
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I've seen Godzilla versus Kong and I've seen the important parts of Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla.
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Did you see the one attack of the three-headed space monster where have you seen any of the
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episodes where there's just randomly aliens? Episodes of what? Or not sorry movies of
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Godzilla where they're just aliens that come from another planet. Well I think there's aliens in
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Godzilla versus Mecha God. Sorry, was Mecha Godzilla not an alien creation? I'm trying. I think I'm
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pretty sure those were aliens. But there's also I think it's like attack of the three-headed space
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monster whatever where the aliens come in like hey we need your monsters help defeating our own
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monster. Yeah. And they kidnap Rodan and Godzilla and then just leave them on the planet. It's probably the most heartbreaking scene.
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Psych. I don't think you made the Manila Yoda one.
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You never know. You just never know. I think I do know. I know I don't think you made that. Yeah some of these
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are a little niche that I don't think you uh you made. But which one did I make Rachel? That's the
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question. We're not asking which one I made. Did you make the taco one? So you're asking when someone steals
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your taco. Is that your final guess? Yeah. I did not make that one. I made the Yoda is the father one. Really?
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I that's good. I was trying to I was trying to make a different meme today and I found
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in I was looking for an image of Godzilla in that image of Manila showed I was like he looks like Yoda.
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Okay I was really surprised. I was like I was not expecting you to google Manila. I was aware of his
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existence but I was not looking for him. He just kind of found me. He's kind of got some similarities to
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Jason Sendola at the end of season four. That you wish he didn't exist and you don't like looking at him.
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I bring a certain make people puke vibe to the podcast.
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Well thank you so much for joining us friends. Do we want to talk about the comic and I can edit it in
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before we talk about. I almost wonder if we should save that till the week after.
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Like we're gonna need to fill time after Kongzilla X Empire or whatever and it'll just be Bad Bash.
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So we're gonna push it two episodes from now? I don't know. Do we want to talk how long is the episode?
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Uh about two hours. I feel like we should cut it. Okay. Are you okay with that? I'm fine.
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We can have some. So one of my favorite podcasts they promised to do a review of the GI Joe Snake Eyes movie
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and every week they say we'll talk about it next week. I guess that's our our Snake Eyes for right now.
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Though we genuinely want to talk about it. We just keep pushing it. We can watch the next.
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I'm down for committing to a bit man. I mean we'll need something to talk about because I don't think
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because we'll have next week. Well we don't have any more like double Bad Batch episodes.
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Sure. So we could just like say it and be like so that comic we talked about
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five episodes ago you guys want to hear about it now? I guess that's what we're gonna do
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and this will give me a chance to actually read it. I mostly skimmed it. We need to reread it.
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We could just do like comics. Maybe. It convinced me that comics is not a great.
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The Godzilla stuff was fun. It's just not a great like the movement of Kaiju stuff is so important.
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There are some scenes where I'm kind of like what am I looking at? Movement is very hard to convey.
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There are some very cool moments. I think it's a I am glad that I read it but I don't know if I'd
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want to read anymore though. I can read the other ones then. Okay just tell. Great summarizing a comic.
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Well thank you listeners so much for joining us this week. It's been a blast as always and as always
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thank you to Caleb Jacoby for our excellent intro and outro music. Propster Rachel for our excellent
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artwork which we need to update it. We need to add something for Boy in the Heron. We need to add
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something for Kung Fu Panda and yeah I think those are the two we need to add to the helmet.
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We're like Scourge from Rise of the Beast where he keeps taking insignias from his victims and puts them on like himself.
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We just like take the logos and like put them on our artwork. Also thank you for running our
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Twitter account. Thanks to Cameron for running our Facebook and Instagram and YouTube. I forgot
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we have an Instagram now which is funny because now I just send I send videos both to the Instagram
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and props to our editor Athena. You did such a good job. She disappeared.
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She's gonna get to the end of the recording be like what they didn't review the comic again.
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She's been really excited for it. Sorry Athena. Give us something to read on the I've said this
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every 51 episode I've said this every no one ever sent us anything. My mom tried. This is
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Cameron and Rachel signing off saying that podcast is filling your head with garbage.
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This might be our last episode. Good night everyone.