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Welcome to the Radical Responsibility Podcast. I'm doctor Fleet Mala,
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and I'm excited to guide you on a journey of
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authentic transformation. In each episode, I'll bring you insights from
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leading experts to explore trauma recovery, mindfulness practices, positive psychology,
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and innovative breakthroughs in health, wellness and life optimization. This
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is a space for real conversations that inspire meaningful change,
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helping you find alignment with the person you are always
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meant to be. Let's get started. What if transformation isn't
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just about thinking differently, but feeling differently. Science shows us
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that true change happens when we align not just our minds,
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but also the neural networks in our hearts and guts.
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This heart mind connection is the key to deeper healing, resilience,
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and expanded awareness. That's why I created the Heart Mind
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global community to support your journey. If you're ready to
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step into a more heart centered, connected and conscious life,
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I invite you to join us. Clip the link to
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learn more and start your journey today. What are the
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only things standing between you and your greatest potential is
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your level of commitment. Today I'm joined by my friend
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and legendary business coach, John Assrap, a brain science and
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business expert who's helped millions of people rewire their thinking, up,
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level their identity, and achieve extraordinary results. I still remember
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when John shared the moment his life changed when a
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mentor asked him a question that cuts straight to the heart.
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Are you interested in your goals or are you committed
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to achieving them? In our conversation, we unpack why most
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people don't stay stuck because they can't change, but because
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they haven't fully committed to changing. If you're ready to
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move forward and to move beyond half measures and step
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into a mindset that grows stronger under pressure, this conversation
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will show you how to upgrade your belief system, your business,
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and your daily life from the inside out. Let's dive in.
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Minam is doctor Fleet Maull your co host for the session,
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and I'm really thrilled to be here today with John Assrap.
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Welcome John Lee.
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It's great to be with you again.
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So John, you have built five multimillion dollar businesses and
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hate to even ask you to encapsulate, you know, your
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kind of life story into a couple of minutes here
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to get our interviews started. But something about how did
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you become how did you end up becoming a successful
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entrepreneur and if there's anything you learned along the ways
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that were some of the keys to help you break
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through or create the mindset that allowed you to be
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successful in that way.
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Thanks sleet. Hey everyone, I think the first thing is
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by doing exactly you know what you and I are
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doing right now. When I was younger, I looked at
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a lot of other people and saw them achieving success,
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whether it was at the local YMCA or parents of
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friends of mine that maybe I went to school with.
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I was always wondering how did they achieve success? And
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the reason that was an open question for me is
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my mother and father struggled their whole life. They struggled
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in their relationship, they struggled in finances, they struggled in
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being you know, really great parents because they didn't have
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the upbringing or the education and the skill building that
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it requires to achieve levels of success that you know,
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we learned from others, and so I became a voracious learner,
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you know, starting really at the age of nineteen when
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I met this one mentor who asked me what I
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want to achieve in my life, and you know, I
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shared with them at the time, I want to have
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a car, I want to move out of my parents' house.
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I want to get a better job because of the time,
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I was making a dollar sixty five an hour. And
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he asked me to dream and to come up with
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if you could have whatever you wanted, what would it be.
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What kind of home would you want, what kind of
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car would you want? Where would you like to travel,
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Who would you like to help, What kind of experiences
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would you like to have, and he actually made me
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write it down on a sheet of paper and he
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called that creating a vision for what I would love
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to have my life like. And then he asked me
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one question, Fleet and this one question I've been asking myself,
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you know, for literally forty four years now. The question
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he asked me once he saw what I wanted to achieve,
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is are you interested in achieving these things? Or are
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you committed to achieving these things? And when I asked
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him what's the difference, he said, Well, if you're interested,
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you'll do what's easy and convenient. He said, if you're interested,
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you'll use your stories that you only went to grade
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eleven high school and that you failed English in math
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as an excuse. And you'll talk about how your father
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beat you as a reason why you're not doing well.
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You'll talk about all the reasons why you can't. But
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when somebody's committed, they let go of anything that is
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not serving them. They upgrade their identity, they upgrade their beliefs,
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they upgrade their knowledge and skills to match the things
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that they want to do, be and have. And he said,
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so are you interested or you committed? And at the
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ripe young age, of nineteen which was May of nineteen eighty,
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a long time ago, which you remember, I said I
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was committed, and they began to instruct me, to guide me,
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to show me that was the beginning. Was like, I
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committed to a life of abundance and a life that
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was extraordinary versus below average and way less than ordinary.
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And you've gone on to similarly mentor thousands, if not millions,
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and that's just so wonderful. But you were so fortunate
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to have that early mentor to give you that message
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and ask you those questions. That's amazing. So you spoke
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about some of the things that can be blocks for
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all of us. And even when we really, you know,
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try to step into a commitment to be an entrepreneur,
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to be successful, to get that book written, whatever it is,
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we're often still running to fear and self doubt and
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things that can really get in our way. And you've
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developed a lot of tools to help people get beyond that,
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and within your neurogym and Innercize programs, I wonder if
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you could talk about the ability to actually rewire our
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brain using some of these tools to overcome things like
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fear and self doubt and really step into our possibilities
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and follow through on those commitments.
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Yes, I think you know a really good direction for
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us to at least have a dialogue to get everybody
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engaged with you and I is to ask a couple
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of questions, and that is, was there any baby ever
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born since the beginning of time that was born with,
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you know, a fear of failing, or a fear of
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not being good enough or smart enough or worthy enough,
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or a belief that they're too young or too old,
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or that because they're this ethnicity or another one, or
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born into this family or that family, they couldn't achieve success. So,
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if we asked ourselves, were we born with a self image?
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The answer is no. Were we born with fears? No?
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Were we born with self doubt? No? Were we born
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with limiting beliefs or empowering beliefs answers No. So the
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question then becins, how did you and I develop? And
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everybody else are maybe watching or listening you know what
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we believe to be true? Where did we develop this
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self image that we're good enough or not good enough?
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Where we have self confidence or we lack confident And
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that just comes through our experience in our environment. The
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parents we had, the teachers, we had, the friends we
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played with, the siblings that we grew up with or didn't.
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It formulated these concepts or neural networks or patterns or
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associations in our brain, and we develop these beliefs, and
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beliefs are nothing more than reinforced patterns. Fears are soul misunderstood.
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And let me give you an example. First and foremost,
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it's important for everybody to understand that every brain, human
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brain functionally works the same way, just like every car
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functionally works the same way. Just like somebody could be
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afraid of snakes and other people could be a zoologist
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love snakes. It's not the snake that creates the fear.
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It's the experience in the association that triggers the fear circuit.
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Same thing with stress. Stress is a circuit in the brain.
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When that circuit is activated, it releases neurochemical so does fear,
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so does love. For some people's sex equals pain, and
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other people's sex is like, oh my god, it's phenomenal.
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So it's usually not the thing, but it's the wiring
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or the meaning that we have learned to give the
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thing that causes the feeling, that dictates what we take
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action on or don't. So I think as an entrepreneur,
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if you're a bootstrapping entrepreneur, or you've reached fifty thousand
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or one hundred thousand dollars a year or a month,
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there's certain things you don't know to get to the
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next level of success. And not knowing in the human
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brain is uncertainty. When the human brain feels uncertain, it
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does not feel safe. When it does not feel safe,
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it activates the stress and fear circuit as a means
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of protection. So there's nothing wrong with the circuitry. The
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issue is in most people not understanding what do I
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do when I feel a afraid Whether I'm afraid of failing,
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afraid of losing money, afraid of making a mistake, afraid
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of being judged, embarrassed, a shamed, ridiculed, rejected, unloved, abandoned.
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Those are all real possibilities when we don't know what
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we don't know, or we don't know how to do something.
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So what I teach people how to do is understand
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that first, you don't get mad at the circuitry. You
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don't get mad, you don't get upset at your brain
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working perfectly when you are procrastinating, you're protecting when you're
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self sabotaging. Where you're protecting, when you are moving away
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from stuff, You're in a protective mode. And the question
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we should be asking ourselves is what am I protecting
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myself from? What is it that I want? Where am
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I What do I need to believe in order to
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really go after what I want? But then, what are
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the emotions the energy within me, the energy that's in
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motion within me that'll cause me to take action instead
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of procrastinate or self sabotage or have this self doubt
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and rumination on negativity, which can be normal. Something I
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want to show you. I don't know if you can
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see up on my wall. I have Little Frankie's Monster
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right over there. That's part of our brain. And we
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have Einstein that's like the genius part of our brain,
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and that's perfective part of our brain. So we have,
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you know, these parts of our brain that are both
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like members of our wonderful orchestra. And imagine if you
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had a member of your orchestra that's there to protect
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you and was always going to like talk negatively. What
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if this happens? What if that happens? What if the
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lights go out, what if you lose, what if you're
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in pain, what if negative? But your job is to
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be aware of it. And I know you're a lifelong
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meditator as well, and observe it right, and not judge it,
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but just observe it, and then you can deliberately activate
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you know, your Einstein part of your brain says, Okay,
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I wonder what's triggering you know, this thought right now,
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or this emotion right now, or what's causing me to
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procrastinate or self sabotage or to go and do something
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else other than what I should be doing. So I've
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really looked at the neuro mechanics. What's really happening inside this?
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You know, somebody'll call it an organ of ours, our brain.
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I like to call it an organism since it's forever
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growing and learning and developing. But most people have never
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learned even how to use their own brain anywhere nearly
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enough like they have maybe their phone, computer, or car.
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So we're talking about entrepreneurship. Listen, it's twenty twenty five.
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How to get more leads? We know how to do that,
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how to make more money, how to make more sales,
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how to help more people, how to do marketing better,
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how to do selling better, how to lead better, how
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to do finance or legal or product development better. We
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can have those answers literally in sixty seconds using AI
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right now. So that's not the problem. The problem is
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an inner game problem, not an outer game problem. So
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we can dive down some of those channels fleet, but
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that'll give us some foundational stuff to focus on.
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Yeah, that's wonderful, And you're really emphasizing the importance of
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mindset and the inner game of working with our own organism.
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The brain is this fabulous, incredible organism we have which
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has limitless possibilities, but can also be stuck in a
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lot of old conditioning. And you're really pointing to that
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growth mindset, the work of Carol Dwrek and others. Right,
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it just changes everything when we have that versus that
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limited mindset. So, based on your understanding of current brain science,
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you develop a brain based approach to marketing and understanding
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what's involved in our brain when we're making buying decisions
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or we're not making buying decisions, right, and so how
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can we market in a way where we're really creating
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genuine value? But you know, we can be creating all
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the value in the world, but still, if we're not
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smart about the marketing, people own fear. Fear will keep
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them from enrolling in something that could be really good
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for them. We need to create something that's really adding
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value for our perspective, customers and clients, but at the
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same time, we still have to be smart about how
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we invite them into the willingness to try something with us. Hey, friends,
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fleet mall here. I just wanted to take a moment
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to thank all of you, our listeners and supporters for
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being part of the Heartlind community. Thanks to your support,
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we've been named one of Ink five thousands fastest Growing
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Companies in America for the second year in a row,
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ranking at number one three hundred and five. It's an
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incredible honor and a reflection of how many people are
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embracing mindfulness, compassion, and conscious living together. We're so grateful
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to be on.
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This journey with you. So, when we understand a little
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bit about it, how does the human brain process information? Right?
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or sound is traveling through my ears, my ear canal
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understand that the brain slows down. You know that energy
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light energy or sound energy for our brain to process it.
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a way that the brain processes all incoming information, so
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there's an order to it. So the number one thing
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that our brain is looking for in the environment, or
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if you go back to caveman days, what was the
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number one priority of a caveman? Before eating threats, avoiding threats,
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say from survival, the number two priority of the brain
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was avoidance of any pain or discomfort. Because if I had,
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you know, pain or discomfort, then I couldn't hunt, I
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couldn't eat, I couldn't take care of my family, I
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couldn't take care of my tribe, I couldn't take care
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of each other or myself. So first is avoidance of
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or anything that is safety related or survival related. But
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the second one is any to do with pain, suffering, discomfort.
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my students, you know that are in business that have
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a program, product or services. All right, I have one
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student's name is John Alvitre. He's a survivalist and his
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clients hire him, you know, to learn how to survive
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when they're out hiking in the wilderness and life is
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on the line, and they pay him thousands of dollars
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to teach them how to stay alive number one, prevent dying,
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but how to stay alive in case something happens, and
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he charges you know, five, ten, twenty five thousand dollars. Now,
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his marketing is all geared towards survival, safety, and avoidance
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of anything disastrous happening while you're in the wilderness. So
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he has an audience he's talking to with very specific fear,
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very specific pains they're looking to avoid, and very specific
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outcomes of pleasure they want to have. But the human
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brain does not focus on the pleasure first. Our brain
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processes information in marketing, all right, is this thing that
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I'm reading, watching, seeing gonna help me with my survival
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or my safety, or my family safety, or my company's safety.
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If you're in that type of a business, you lead
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with that. And the newspapers have a terrible saying. You know,
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it goes, if it bleeds, it leads. So you're marketing.
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The number one priority of all marketing in twenty twenty
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five and twenty twenty six is number one is to
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get people's attention. Now, why would we do that? Well,
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two billion posts a day, two billions. You and I
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have to figure out how while somebody is scrolling left,
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scrolling right up and down TikTok, you know, going from
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a zoom meeting to TikTok to Instagram, the Facebook, to YouTube,
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to LinkedIn to whatever platform they're on, you and I
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have to bypass what they're there for and interrupt them.
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It's called interruptive marketing. And the only way we're going
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to do that is by creating a marketing message that
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is going to go right into their subconscious mind that
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is focusing on safety, survival, and the avoidance of pain
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or discomfort. First. Then we lead them, once we have
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their attention, down a path to keep their attention and
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create trust and rapport by helping them. So, when we're
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doing what I call is neuro marketing, we have to
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understand that. You know, a lot of times people think
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that you're marketing to the conscious brain, but you're not.
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if there is a resonant match around something that somebody
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is afraid of happening now or in the future, if
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something has to do with their safety, mental emotional, physical,
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financial safety. They're going to pay attention to that first. Now,
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there are some people that might just want to waste
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time on social media, and you have to interrupt those
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people because they're there having fun wasting time. So your
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marketing has got to be even more precise in twenty
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twenty five than it ever has, especially now with AI
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that is going to be flooding every social media channel
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going forward.
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So you know, among the audience, I'm sure this entrepreneurs
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and a great diversity of types of business B two C,
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B to B, and some businesses have very long sales cycle,
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some very short, you know B two C online digital sales,
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very short sales cycle. But somewhere along the line, you've
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gotten somebody's attention and you've gotten them into some kind
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of process where you're nurturing them and rolling them in
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the value of the product you offer or the service
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you offer. And then at some point, whether it's short
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line sales cycle, they're going to make a decision to
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buy or not to buy, the purchase or not purchase,
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and so what are some of the emotions evolved in
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those decisions? What are some of the emotional triggers that
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are important to facilitate so someone's willing to make that
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purchase decision.
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So one of the things I teach all my students
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is meet them at the pain and lead them to
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the gain. So for everybody, as a program, product or service,
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we're all really in the transformation business, right, but we're
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really in the transportation business. People don't like, let's forget about,
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you know, buying a candy bar, you know, at the
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grocery store because we're hungrier. We just like you know, suites.
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they're actually buying how the outcome will make them feel.
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we feel the outcome will be. And if we can
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create a feeling that people want and they can afford,
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what it is that you are asking for that feeling
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for that. I know we think we're selling them this
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productor program, but we're not selling that. You know, we're
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selling them a future state that might be ten minutes
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from now or it might be ten weeks from now.
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my program's product, service help people move away from and
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remove from their life that they no longer want and
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what is that worth to them? What is that worth
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them mentally? Was it worth of emotion? What is it
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worth the financially to have that peace of mind, to
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have that confidence, to have that certainty, to have that consistency,
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to have that predictability. That's what I sell, and people
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are willing to pay me. Personally. My private clients paid
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ten thousand dollars an hour for me to help give
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them that. Now, I'm a very very high end coach
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or consultant. You can get what I do from other people,
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probably a lot less, but if you'll want to work
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with me because of the work that I've done in
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the world. So you have to ask off this question,
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what is the ultimate state that they're looking for that
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your program, product, service, or thing will give them? And
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then before you even get into the selling side of it,
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you have to be in the qualifying side of it.
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Can I show you something? I have this over here.
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I'm going to just show you this graph that I
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show all of my students, and this graph says five percent,
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fifty percent, eighty percent. Right, So let's say this there's
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one hundred people, there's five percent that want, need, and
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can afford what you have right now. You need to
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find them first. There's twenty percent that want, need, maybe
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can afford, but they're not ready right now, so you
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need to nurture them through dialogue, qualification, information, and putting
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them through a proper process. Eighty percent stop marketing to them.
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They don't want, need, or can afford what you have,
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So all of your marketing should be on this twenty percent. Now,
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there's twenty percent. What you need to know as a
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business owner in order to do marketing right is what
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are their biggest that If we said, okay, let's just
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think about one person who wants, needs it, can afford
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what you have. Let's think of one person. What is
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a male or female? What age group? Where are they now?
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Let's answer these questions that one person. Do you know
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what his or her biggest pain is right now that
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they're experiencing in their life or business or whatever that
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your program, product or service eliminates. Write that down. There's
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marketing for you. Do you know what his or her
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biggest fear is right now as relates to their personal life,
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family life, business life. Market to that. Do you know
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what he or she is the so frustrated with right now?
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That your program, product or service good help alleviate. So
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we're always looking for one of the biggest pains, fears, frustrations,
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irritations that they're having right now or they're worried about
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in the future. Your marketing starts there by addressing those
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things and meeting them right at that. I'll give you
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an example, a crazy example. Hey, whoever's listening right now,
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If you have really, really painful, itchy hemorrhoids, pay attention now.
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For those of you who don't have hemorrhoids, of pay attention.
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If you're a little behind the eight ball right now
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and you don't have enough money in the bank, and
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you're tired of being broke and you're frustrated and embarrassed
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by it, pay attention. Don't want to share with you
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a technique that will help you get out of that.
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So what I just did, whether it's hemorrhoids or a
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lack of money causing pain, I can talk to people
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directly about what they're experiencing. And in doing that, you
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don't even talk to the conscious brain. This is what
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most people don't understand. We're always talking to the ubconscious
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brain first. And if there's a resonant match with what
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I am either thinking or feeling right now, or I
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have been thinking or feeling. It sends a message for
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us to pay attention to that person thing, video, audio,
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text message. So we want to know their pain spears
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for stracial's irritations, and then we also want to know,
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like what do they want, what do they need? What
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do they aspire to have? What are their goals? So
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you tell them if you want to move away from
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this and you want achieve this, pay attention. I have
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a book that'll help you, a video, a checklist and infographic,
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a gift, a masterclass, a personal consultation for free. Now
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I can say, if you are this and you have
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these issues, challenges and or wants these era aspirations, then
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pay attention because I have a way to help you.
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You will get rid of everybody that you should not
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be talking to the eighty percent. You'll only be talking
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to the people that are in your orbit. And then
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your job. My job is to follow this simple rule. Ready,
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don't make me think. Keep it really simple for people
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to understand what step one, what's step two, what's step three?
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What step four? And just help me move along these
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steps so I don't have to think, and you make
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it easy for me to say yes to you.
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Well, you're so good at speaking directly to the subconscious
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that when you are doing the one about him rhights,
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I had to check in do I have Fortunately I don't,
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but you had me for a minute there.
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I could say, hey, have you ever been afraid of snakes?
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People's attention to afraid of snakes. The people who are
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not afraid of snakes, they go no, not me, They
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opt out. So marketing, by its very nature, opts in
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the right people, opts out the wrong people. And here's
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the real gift everyone for what marketing is ready, this
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will change all of your life. I don't care if
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you're doing you know, a dollar a year in revenue
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or one hundred million dollars. Here's the essence of all
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great marketing. Great marketing is not about the prospect knowing
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about how good your program, product or service is. It's
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not about your branding. All great marketing gets the prospect
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or suspect to viscerally feel. You get me, You understand
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what I'm feeling, what I'm experiencing. You understand me. Maybe
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even better than I understand myself, and you can explain
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it to me, and then you can show me a
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path away from this and towards what I want better
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than I have been able to do it on my
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own thus far. That's great marketing.
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Well, well, you're so powerfully communicating. John has said. As
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human beings, we are emotional decision makers, you know, and
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it's well known. Like we're looking to buy a car,
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we might spend weeks in consumer reports doing all our
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study and analysis, but then we go on the car
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lot and make a completely emotional decision because that red
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one over there just really floats our boat. Right, So
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we're emotional decision makers.
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Well, we're emotional decision makers, but there's a part before
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even the emotions, right, So there's this instinctual part of us, okay,
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that is deeper than even the amigdal aside that's reacted
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as an emotion, and that is, you know, the part
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of us that is genetically engineered, predisposed for one hundred
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and fifty million years as Homo sapiens are you know,
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humans in this species to avoid pain and discomfort and
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seek safety survival before pain or pleasure and gain. So
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when we understand that words is just energy. We need
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to make sure we use the right words in the
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right order at the right time. Words on a piece
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of paper, your headline, your byline, that's your like New
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York real estate, whether you get attention or not. The
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first four or five words you use on a social
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post and a video, that's all you have. You have
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a second. You don't have ten fifteen seconds anymore. People's
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attention spans have gone to near zero, so your communication
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has got to be near perfect. And there's no room anymore,
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you know, for oh, I made a mistake with a
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new audience, because they're gone. It's fast food now.
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So in terms of people may be familiar with the
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trium brain idea, the brain is one holistic enterprise, very
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complex and eary pendent. But still are these three functional areas.
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The reptilian brain that's all about fight or flight and
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survival that you've been referencing, and then the mid brain
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with the amigdal and the Olympics system that's about most processing.
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So we're really addressing those two parts of the brain.
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And if we get somebody up lost in their neocortex
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thinking about things, we may have lost them already got it.
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Yeah, we can get them into that neo cortex, the
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thinking part of their brain. But from a wiring perspective,
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the emotional brain sends signals to the logical brain, but
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the logical brain doesn't send signals down to the emotional brain.
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The emotional brain, okay, is really what controls, but the
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instinctual brain is involved in this as well. Initially to
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get the attention, and then we want to lead people
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by meeting them where they're at and leading them to
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where they want to be.
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I said, you kind of reference this already, John, but
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I'd like I wonder if you could talk a little
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bit about our ability to reframe belief systems and our
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own as entrepreneur. As you mentioned some of these negative
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beliefs that resulted from our childhood conditioning and experiences and
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so forth that could get in the way of actualizing
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our lives and our dreams and so forth. And then
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in some way, our marketing is also reframing beliefs, possibly
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to on some level for our perspective clients and customers.
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I wonder if you could first talk about and entrepreneurs
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need to reframe their own beliefs, the ones that could
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be getting in their way. And then how in some level,
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you know, our customer, our client is going to buy
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when they somehow have a belief that what we're offering
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is either going to help them avoid that pain or
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get rid of that pain, and or it's going to
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meet that pleasure that they're looking for. So if you
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could first talk about it in terms of our own
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brain and the need to be reframing beliefs that get
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in our own way, and the fact that we actually
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can do that, that we could actually change our brain.
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Yeah, so you know, it was twenty thirty years ago.
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We used to believe we're hardwired, right, that we're you know,
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just like your mother, just like your father. Oh my god,
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you're remind me of your grandfather or grandmother. And yeah,
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there's genetic predispositions. But again, if we just think about
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a belief as nothing more than a pattern like software, right,
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like software and computer. We upgrade software all the time
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on our computer, on our cell phones, even in our cars. Well,
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why not upgrade your own software. What if our beliefs
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was just like software, right, something that was encoded, whether
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it was because of things you heard, things you saw,
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things you experienced, things you were told were true about
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you when you didn't have the ability to go, oh,
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that's not true about me. So if a belief is
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nothing more than a reinforced pattern, then can we deliberately
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create and reinforce a more powerful pattern, a new pattern?
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And the answer is, of course, the science of neuroplasticity
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means that the brain has the ability to be plastic
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and moldable, and we can refire to rewire our beliefs
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about ourselves, our self image, our beliefs about you know,
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our capabilities, our identity, and so you know, one of
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the things, for example, that I started to do literally
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forty four years is when I had my first goal
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in fleet. You'll love this. I was making dollars sixty
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five an hour, and my first goal was to make
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ten thousand dollars a month, and they was making seventy
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five dollars a week, right, three hundred dollars a month.
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I want to go to ten thousand dollars a month.
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And I thought, I was like, only millionaires make ten
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thousand dollars a month back then. And so my mentor
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said to me, he says, great, like, what would you
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need to believe in order to feel self confident you
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can make ten thousand dollars a month. That's why I
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guess I would need to believe that I'm smart enough.
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He said, good, write that down. I'm so happy and
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grateful for the fact that I am smart enough to
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earn ten thousand dollars a month. What else would you
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need to believe? Well, I would need to believe that
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I'm worthy of it. I would need to believe I
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deserve it. I would need to believe I'm capable of
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doing it. I would need to believe that I can
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learn the knowledge and the skills. I would need to
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believe that I could develop the hab he said, write
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it down, Write it down, Write it down. So I
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wrote it all down. I'm so happy and grateful that
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I now had the happy I'm so happy and grateful
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that I now feel deserving of I'm so happy and
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grateful for the fact that and I wrote it down
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and go. Now what I do is he says, Well,
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what I want you to do, and you're talking about
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the trying and brain, I'll give you like a triad system.
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So he says, Now, I want you to visualize it,
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see yourself earning ten grand a month. So I close
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my eyes and I would like try to see myself
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earning ten grand a month, and I just saw like
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black and blurry and nothing. He goes like, where would
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you travel if you were earning ten thousand dollars a month?
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I Saii? I remember Hawaii came up first, and then
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the Caribbean and then Florida, I says, And what kind
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of car would you go? Oh, that's easy, I would
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be driving a Mercedes Benz convertible. Great. And what kind
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of house would you have? Oh, I'd have a four
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bedroom house. And who would you help? I said, no,
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I was making ten grand a month. I would help
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my father. He doesn't make enough money. He's a cab driver,
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he's a gambler. My mother works really hard as a seamstress.
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I would help her. And as he asked me what
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I would do with the ten thousand dollars a month,
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all of a sudden, I can visualize, and I could,
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so the triad was visualized. What it would be like
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for that affirmation to be real? How would you behave
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if you had the self confidence right now? How would
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you think? What would you believe to be true? A boy? Yourself?
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If you had the self confidence of self image, the identity,
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and so I would go into the visualization of the affirmation,
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so I would visualize part one of the triad. Then
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I would affirm, So it is visualize affirm it that yes,
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this is true, this is happening right now, because I
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wanted to create and reinforce a new pattern. And then
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he said, once you visualize an affirm, I now want
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you to confirm. And what did that mean? What does
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it mean to visualize, affirm and confirm? He says, Now
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I want you to go out for the next hour
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and take action as if you're making ten grand an hour,
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you believe these things to be true. Take the action
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aligned with the visualization and the affirmation. I said, okay,
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what should I do? He says, Well, the confirm is
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if somebody's making ten thousand dollars a month, for example,
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they'd be making phone calls. Since I was selling real
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estate back then as a nineteen year old right or
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I was door knocking. Phone calls are door knocking? Is
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I want you to go a door knock on fifty
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fifty dollars today and I want you to call one
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hundred people today. I was like, wow, okay, well, what
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should I say, he said, well, here's a script to learn.
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So I learned the script for door knocking. I learned
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the script for phone calling, and you know what, six
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months later, I was making ten thousand dollars a month.
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So visualize a firm confirmed. So you always confirmed by
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following through with a little bit of the behavior with
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what you're visualizing and affirming, that creates the neural networks
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that you need because the visceral learning, the neural pattern
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is created not just in the visualization, which it is
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because visualization is a simulation. Affirmation okay, is affirming in
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one's mind. It just another way to get that neural pattern,
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create an anchor. But then it's in the taking of
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the action that it's cements because now we have excitement,
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we have emotion, we have cortisol, eppnephron, we have fear,
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we have dopamine, all the neurochemicals responsible for coalescing. Okay,
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the pattern like glue. And so I learned how to
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do that forty four years ago and I haven't stopped,
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and I've taught it to over a million students in
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the last number of years. So those are just some
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of the ways that you can do this.
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It's incredibly empowering. And we're going to talk at the
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end of our conversation today about a wonderful free book
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that goes through all that that we're going to offer.
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I have something that I just finished writing. It's another
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one of my new books. It's called The Power of Visulation.
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Unleash your brain's full potential to manifest your biggest goals
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and dreams. And what I did is I created about
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a twenty five twenty twenty page book and I'm going
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to put this on Amazon, but we're gonna give it
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to all of your Watchers followers as our gift today.
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Wish I had to do that afterwards.
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Wonderful, wonderful, Thank you so much. So, you know, you
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were talking about some of the keys to marketing before,
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and so let's say, you know, you've gotten somebody's attention
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with's the job one, right, and it's got getting harder
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and harder. So we've got to break through, get their attention,
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interrupt what they're doing, and that's probably going to be
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around some kind of pain that focuses are attention they're
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concerned about. And then you know, so we have that
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pain and wears and then you know there's a solution.
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But yeah, it's pain, fear, frustration, or irritation. Or we
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can also talk about wants, needs, goals, and aspirations. So
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we have eight different things that we could lead with,
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but I always like to lead with eighty percent on
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the pain's faces, face irritations.
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Which is the way there and structured anyway. So it's
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also Maslow's hierarchy of needs as well. So we've gotten
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our attention around that as you're describing, But at some
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point they have to believe that what we're offering is
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actually going to help them avoid that pain or reach
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that solution or have that pleasure. So what's involved in
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changing her Because their initial belief may be a sense
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of weariness, like somebody's trying to sell me something, although
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if our marketing is really good, maybe that we won't
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get them into that mindset. But nonetheless they've got to
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come to believe that, yes, I believe this could do
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it for me.
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Yeah. So first, once we get their attention, the very
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next step is we have to build some level of
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trust and rapport. So everybody promises everything. Now, pay attention
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to me, follow my this, eat my that, watch my this,
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buy my that, and so we're all like, I'm interested,
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but I'm scared because the last time I trusted, or
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my friend trusted, or my daughter or mother or husband
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or a wife trusted, they got burned. So we're standing
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guard and that's okay. So we want to build trust
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and rapport. So why not give value in advance, like
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give value, like show me, don't tell me, show me.
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So I just gave you this triathces to visualize a
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firm confirm like do that. I'll even give you free
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book to show you how to do that for free.
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And listen, you like what I do? You like what
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fleet does? Look deeper into what else we have? Right,
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So we want to give value in advance. We want
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to showcase our expertise. We want to showcase who we are. Listen,
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people feel right people, People can tell whether I'm bullshitting
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right now, whether I'm caring, whether I want to give
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right And everybody wants to buy, but nobody wants to
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be sold. So why if you're really good at whatever
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it is that you do, if your product or service
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really good. Have you ever been traveling? You know, you're
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walking down a boardwalk and they give you a piece
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of pizza or a piece of their Italian food or
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a piece of their seafood to taste if you oh
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my god. And then you go look at the restaurant
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and there's tons of people there where they're ice cream. Well,
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they're giving you a taste in advance. Well, showcase your work.
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And then since people are skeptical, show me how it works.
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Like people are always asking what is this? Why should
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I care? How much is it? How does it work?
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How long will it take? Will this work for me?
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What evidence do you have? Remember I said to you earlier,
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don't make me think. Those are the seven things that
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are going on in their head. What is it? Why
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should I care? How much is it okay? How will
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it help me with my program? Well, my problem paying?
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Whatever it is? What evidence do you have, how much
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does it cost? How long will it take? What if
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it doesn't work for me? That's the other one. Those
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are you know, seven eight things that you need to
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answer sometime in the discussion, whether it's online or offline,
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one to one, one too many. That's why I said earlier,
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don't make me think you need to answer or all
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of these things along the way. So if I take
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your ex if I read your book, if I use
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your checklist, if I get your infograph, I watch your videos,
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if I buy your ex like, answer those questions for
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me and then show me evidence to take my risk
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factor down so that I feel safe. Remember safety and security.
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I want safety and security. First, I want to avoid
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pain or discomfort, make it the wrong decision. Second, I
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want to conserve energy, don't make me think. Third, then
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I want my pleasure. Fourth. So there's a hierarchy in
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neuromarketing and neuro selling. And when people feel that they
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like you, they know you, they trust you, and you've
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shown them how this can impact them, and they want
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it needed and can afford it. You don't have to
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do any selling. People like, how do I sign up?
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How do I join you? Because I want to be part.
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Of this wonderful So in your experience with your own
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businesses and all the million, thousands of bus since clients
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you've helped, you know in our audience, the wonderful creatives
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entrepreneurs in our audience, you know, they may be at
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various stages, but we often find ourselves stuck in these plateaus.
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Maybe we've gotten to six figures, maybe we've gotten to
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seven figures, and it just figures. I don't see how
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I grow from here. I can only do so much
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of X right and we kind of get stuck in
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these plateaus. And I wonder if your experience what helps
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people kind of get unstuck and take their game and
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take their business to the next level.
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In your experience, businesses go through different stages. From zero
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to one hundred thousand is a stage. One hundred thousand
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to a million is a stage. You know. Five to
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ten million is a stage. Ten to twenty five, fifty
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millions of stage, you know, fifty two hundreds of stage.
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One hundred million to a billion is a stage. And
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every stage requires new systems, new processes, sometimes new people,
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and especially what you have to really be aligned with
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right now, like not next year, right now is just
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changed the game. AI has changed the game forever. So
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whatever your processing systems in twenty twenty one, two three, four,
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their history, they are history. You have to retool right now.
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You have to adapt right now AI this year. If
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you're a one person shop or a five person shop,
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you can use AI to do the work of a
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fifty person shop or business. Now. The fact that you
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may not know how to do it. That means you
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need to upskill yourself or bring people on your team
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that are upskilling. I am retooling my entire company for
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every department to be an AI powered department. Every department.
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We just had our meeting this morning, okay, talking about
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that again, which we've been doing now for the last
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one hundred days. So everybody has to retool your mindset,
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retool your skill set, retool your systems and processes based
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on AI ready now, and change ready now. And that
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just requires another version of you. So I always have
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this reminder on my desk of the monarch butterfly here
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to remind me. You know, I want to keep evolving
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from the caterpillar that I've gotten used to being to
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the monarch butterfly that I want to be. Then I
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go through the metamorphosis again. Then this becomes, you know,
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a convenient, normal, habitual, comfortable, and then I have to
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interrupt that cycle again and become another new version of me.
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So what got you here will not get you there
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except the mindset, okay, that you can change and you
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can adapt and you can shift, and you can become
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a better, newer version of you.
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You know, that's the amazing thing John about this journey
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of entrepreneurship. Those cycles you're referencing sometimes you're reading the
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business books that even you know some of your key
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people they may be able to grow to one two cycles,
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but a SIMILARI you're going to have to bring in
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some people who have actually been at that next level.
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But you, as the founder of the entrepreneur, you're still there.
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You've got to grow. I mean, at some point you
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can replace yourself or you know, exit or whatever, but
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you got to get through a lot of cycles yourself.
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So this growth mindset, this ability to change, evolve and
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grow ourselves is like it seems to be at the
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very heart of our entrepreneurship.
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Yeah, and listen. You don't have to if you don't
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want to, that's up to you. Listen. I got a
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call literally yesterday from a friend of mine that haven't
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talked to in I don't know forty years. I used
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to actually live with this person and he hasn't read
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one book since we lived together. Now one book. He
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hasn't been to one event, he's not listened to one podcast,
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and he's slightly older than I am. He looked like
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he was twenty years older than I was, and he was.
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He looked like he was on such a decline. I
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was shocked. And he was making a little bit more
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money than he was making when we lived together in
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our twenties. And yes he's a husband, and yes he's
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a father, and yes he's a grandfather. He's gotten older,
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but he has not grown. He's actually gone backwards. He
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looks worse, sounded worse. It was like, oh my god,
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you have not grown. That's his choice. So growth is
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a choice staying. If people think they stay the same,
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no you don't. Nothing stays the same. You know, universal
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law says create or disintegrate. So your choice. And there's
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never been in the history of our species. I just
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finished watching a wonderful PBS special on Leonardo da Vinci
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in the Renaissance era. And you know, six hundred, five
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hundred and fifty years ago, whatever what we're in right now,
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the AI era will dwarf the Renaissance era, the agriculture revolution,
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industrial revolution, computer revolution by a factor that we can't
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even imagine. We have just entered the quantum realm of change.
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And you're either going to adapt now and become the
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better version of yourself. And there's paths to doing that,
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or as Charles Darwin said, you know, adapt or become extinct.
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I've been really enjoying one of de Pauk Troper's latest books,
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The Quantum Body, and as sooner or later we're probably
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going to be talking about quantum marketing.
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I suppose, yeah, we're already doing quantum marketing, you know,
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in a sense, you know, neuro marketing is accessing you know,
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levels of the human consciousness. There's I can't remember the
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name of the author, but many years where he wrote
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thinking fast, Thinking slow, and like I said, even as
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I'm speaking with you right now in the audience, some
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of you may be watching me right and I'm sitting
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in San Diego. You might be seeing my bright colored
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shirt and my nice you know, colored glasses, and my
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light right is traveling through the camera that's not connected
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to anything, you know, beaming up to a satellite somewhere,
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back down to your mobile phone, computer or iPad, going
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through your camera, you know, the light going through your
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eyes at a slow enough pace for your brain to
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decipher that guy talking, knowing what he's saying. When you know,
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whenever you were born, you had no idea what I
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was saying you didn't even understand language, you didn't even
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see when you were born, and your brain's deciphering, decoding
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all of that and making sense of it, hopefully sense
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of it. Ah, that's a miracle. So we are already
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communicating at the quantum level. And then you have this
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feeling about what's going on right now that you're either
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excited about it, you're either afraid of it, you're uncertain
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about it. That's a feeling that the words that I'm
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using in our conversation is causing within you. That's quantum level,
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you know, communication. But then there's the you know, the
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entanglements that's we're all entangled, and there's communication happening at
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vast distances you know that we're aware of also, And
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I think we're going to find out a lot more
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about that fleet over the next several years as well.
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It's an interesting time to be alive, to say the
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very least, for sure. Absolutely, thank you so much, John,
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this has been illuminating.
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Again.
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I'd like to reference that beautiful ebook you showed us
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a moment ago that you put together. While it's a
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physical book, you have there the power of visualization, so
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that's available to everyone in our audience right now, you
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can see the link right down below the video here
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and click on that you can access that and learn
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more about John's work and programs.
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Yeah, it'll take everybody to that page right over there
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and they just download their copy right over there.
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Wonderful.
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So we'll give that to everybody who's a gift. You
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have to buy anything, and it'll be our gift to
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you for you know, making your life a little bit
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easier and more of a masterpiece.
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Thank you so much, John asrap Neural Jim an incredible
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business entrepreneur Marketer, Thank you so much for all you
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continue to share with so many and the success you
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help so many create.
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Thank you, Fleet, appreciate you, thank you.
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Thank you for joining me on the Radical Responsibility Podcast. Remember,
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and legendary business coach, John Assrap, a brain science and
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business expert who's helped millions of people rewire their thinking, up,
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level their identity, and achieve extraordinary results. I still remember
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when John shared the moment his life changed when a
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mentor asked him a question that cuts straight to the heart.
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Are you interested in your goals or are you committed
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to achieving them? In our conversation, we unpack why most
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people don't stay stuck because they can't change, but because
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they haven't fully committed to changing. If you're ready to
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move forward and to move beyond half measures and step
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into a mindset that grows stronger under pressure, this conversation
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will show you how to upgrade your belief system, your business,
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and your daily life from the inside out. Let's dive in.
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Minam is doctor Fleet Maull your co host for the session,
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and I'm really thrilled to be here today with John Assrap.
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Welcome John Lee.
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It's great to be with you again.
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So John, you have built five multimillion dollar businesses and
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hate to even ask you to encapsulate, you know, your
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kind of life story into a couple of minutes here
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to get our interviews started. But something about how did
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you become how did you end up becoming a successful
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entrepreneur and if there's anything you learned along the ways
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that were some of the keys to help you break
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through or create the mindset that allowed you to be
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successful in that way.
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Thanks sleet. Hey everyone, I think the first thing is
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by doing exactly you know what you and I are
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doing right now. When I was younger, I looked at
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a lot of other people and saw them achieving success,
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whether it was at the local YMCA or parents of
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friends of mine that maybe I went to school with.
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I was always wondering how did they achieve success? And
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the reason that was an open question for me is
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my mother and father struggled their whole life. They struggled
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in their relationship, they struggled in finances, they struggled in
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being you know, really great parents because they didn't have
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the upbringing or the education and the skill building that
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it requires to achieve levels of success that you know,
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we learned from others, and so I became a voracious learner,
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you know, starting really at the age of nineteen when
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I met this one mentor who asked me what I
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want to achieve in my life, and you know, I
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shared with them at the time, I want to have
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a car, I want to move out of my parents' house.
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I want to get a better job because of the time,
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I was making a dollar sixty five an hour. And
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he asked me to dream and to come up with
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if you could have whatever you wanted, what would it be.
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What kind of home would you want, what kind of
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car would you want? Where would you like to travel,
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would you like to have, and he actually made me
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write it down on a sheet of paper and he
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called that creating a vision for what I would love
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to have my life like. And then he asked me
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one question, Fleet and this one question I've been asking myself,
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you know, for literally forty four years now. The question
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he asked me once he saw what I wanted to achieve,
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is are you interested in achieving these things? Or are
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you committed to achieving these things? And when I asked
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him what's the difference, he said, Well, if you're interested,
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you'll do what's easy and convenient. He said, if you're interested,
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you'll use your stories that you only went to grade
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eleven high school and that you failed English in math
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as an excuse. And you'll talk about how your father
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beat you as a reason why you're not doing well.
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You'll talk about all the reasons why you can't. But
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when somebody's committed, they let go of anything that is
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not serving them. They upgrade their identity, they upgrade their beliefs,
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they upgrade their knowledge and skills to match the things
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that they want to do, be and have. And he said,
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so are you interested or you committed? And at the
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ripe young age, of nineteen which was May of nineteen eighty,
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a long time ago, which you remember, I said I
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was committed, and they began to instruct me, to guide me,
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to show me that was the beginning. Was like, I
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committed to a life of abundance and a life that
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was extraordinary versus below average and way less than ordinary.
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And you've gone on to similarly mentor thousands, if not millions,
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and that's just so wonderful. But you were so fortunate
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to have that early mentor to give you that message
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and ask you those questions. That's amazing. So you spoke
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about some of the things that can be blocks for
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all of us. And even when we really, you know,
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try to step into a commitment to be an entrepreneur,
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to be successful, to get that book written, whatever it is,
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we're often still running to fear and self doubt and
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things that can really get in our way. And you've
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developed a lot of tools to help people get beyond that,
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and within your neurogym and Innercize programs, I wonder if
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you could talk about the ability to actually rewire our
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brain using some of these tools to overcome things like
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fear and self doubt and really step into our possibilities
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and follow through on those commitments.
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us to at least have a dialogue to get everybody
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engaged with you and I is to ask a couple
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of questions, and that is, was there any baby ever
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born since the beginning of time that was born with,
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you know, a fear of failing, or a fear of
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not being good enough or smart enough or worthy enough,
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or a belief that they're too young or too old,
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or that because they're this ethnicity or another one, or
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born into this family or that family, they couldn't achieve success. So,
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if we asked ourselves, were we born with a self image?
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The answer is no. Were we born with fears? No?
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Were we born with self doubt? No? Were we born
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with limiting beliefs or empowering beliefs answers No. So the
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question then becins, how did you and I develop? And
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everybody else are maybe watching or listening you know what
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we believe to be true? Where did we develop this
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self image that we're good enough or not good enough?
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Where we have self confidence or we lack confident And
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that just comes through our experience in our environment. The
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parents we had, the teachers, we had, the friends we
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played with, the siblings that we grew up with or didn't.
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associations in our brain, and we develop these beliefs, and
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beliefs are nothing more than reinforced patterns. Fears are soul misunderstood.
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it's important for everybody to understand that every brain, human
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brain functionally works the same way, just like every car
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functionally works the same way. Just like somebody could be
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afraid of snakes and other people could be a zoologist
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love snakes. It's not the snake that creates the fear.
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so does love. For some people's sex equals pain, and
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other people's sex is like, oh my god, it's phenomenal.
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or the meaning that we have learned to give the
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thing that causes the feeling, that dictates what we take
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action on or don't. So I think as an entrepreneur,
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if you're a bootstrapping entrepreneur, or you've reached fifty thousand
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or one hundred thousand dollars a year or a month,
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there's certain things you don't know to get to the
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next level of success. And not knowing in the human
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brain is uncertainty. When the human brain feels uncertain, it
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does not feel safe. When it does not feel safe,
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it activates the stress and fear circuit as a means
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of protection. So there's nothing wrong with the circuitry. The
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issue is in most people not understanding what do I
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do when I feel a afraid Whether I'm afraid of failing,
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afraid of losing money, afraid of making a mistake, afraid
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of being judged, embarrassed, a shamed, ridiculed, rejected, unloved, abandoned.
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we don't know, or we don't know how to do something.
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that first, you don't get mad at the circuitry. You
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don't get mad, you don't get upset at your brain
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working perfectly when you are procrastinating, you're protecting when you're
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self sabotaging. Where you're protecting, when you are moving away
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from stuff, You're in a protective mode. And the question
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we should be asking ourselves is what am I protecting
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myself from? What is it that I want? Where am
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really go after what I want? But then, what are
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the emotions the energy within me, the energy that's in
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motion within me that'll cause me to take action instead
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of procrastinate or self sabotage or have this self doubt
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and rumination on negativity, which can be normal. Something I
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want to show you. I don't know if you can
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see up on my wall. I have Little Frankie's Monster
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right over there. That's part of our brain. And we
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have Einstein that's like the genius part of our brain,
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and that's perfective part of our brain. So we have,
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you know, these parts of our brain that are both
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like members of our wonderful orchestra. And imagine if you
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had a member of your orchestra that's there to protect
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you and was always going to like talk negatively. What
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if this happens? What if that happens? What if the
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lights go out, what if you lose, what if you're
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in pain, what if negative? But your job is to
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be aware of it. And I know you're a lifelong
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meditator as well, and observe it right, and not judge it,
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but just observe it, and then you can deliberately activate
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you know, your Einstein part of your brain says, Okay,
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I wonder what's triggering you know, this thought right now,
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or this emotion right now, or what's causing me to
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procrastinate or self sabotage or to go and do something
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else other than what I should be doing. So I've
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really looked at the neuro mechanics. What's really happening inside this?
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You know, somebody'll call it an organ of ours, our brain.
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I like to call it an organism since it's forever
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growing and learning and developing. But most people have never
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learned even how to use their own brain anywhere nearly
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enough like they have maybe their phone, computer, or car.
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So we're talking about entrepreneurship. Listen, it's twenty twenty five.
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How to get more leads? We know how to do that,
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how to make more money, how to make more sales,
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how to help more people, how to do marketing better,
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how to do selling better, how to lead better, how
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to do finance or legal or product development better. We
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can have those answers literally in sixty seconds using AI
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right now. So that's not the problem. The problem is
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an inner game problem, not an outer game problem. So
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we can dive down some of those channels fleet, but
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that'll give us some foundational stuff to focus on.
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mindset and the inner game of working with our own organism.
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The brain is this fabulous, incredible organism we have which
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has limitless possibilities, but can also be stuck in a
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lot of old conditioning. And you're really pointing to that
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growth mindset, the work of Carol Dwrek and others. Right,
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it just changes everything when we have that versus that
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limited mindset. So, based on your understanding of current brain science,
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you develop a brain based approach to marketing and understanding
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what's involved in our brain when we're making buying decisions
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or we're not making buying decisions, right, and so how
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can we market in a way where we're really creating
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genuine value? But you know, we can be creating all
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the value in the world, but still, if we're not
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smart about the marketing, people own fear. Fear will keep
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them from enrolling in something that could be really good
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for them. We need to create something that's really adding
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value for our perspective, customers and clients, but at the
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same time, we still have to be smart about how
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we invite them into the willingness to try something with us. Hey, friends,
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fleet mall here. I just wanted to take a moment
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to thank all of you, our listeners and supporters for
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being part of the Heartlind community. Thanks to your support,
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we've been named one of Ink five thousands fastest Growing
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Companies in America for the second year in a row,
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ranking at number one three hundred and five. It's an
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incredible honor and a reflection of how many people are
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embracing mindfulness, compassion, and conscious living together. We're so grateful
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to be on.
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This journey with you. So, when we understand a little
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bit about it, how does the human brain process information? Right?
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understand that the brain slows down. You know that energy
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light energy or sound energy for our brain to process it.
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a way that the brain processes all incoming information, so
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there's an order to it. So the number one thing
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that our brain is looking for in the environment, or
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number one priority of a caveman? Before eating threats, avoiding threats,
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say from survival, the number two priority of the brain
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was avoidance of any pain or discomfort. Because if I had,
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you know, pain or discomfort, then I couldn't hunt, I
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couldn't eat, I couldn't take care of my family, I
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couldn't take care of my tribe, I couldn't take care
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of each other or myself. So first is avoidance of
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my students, you know that are in business that have
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a program, product or services. All right, I have one
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student's name is John Alvitre. He's a survivalist and his
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clients hire him, you know, to learn how to survive
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when they're out hiking in the wilderness and life is
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on the line, and they pay him thousands of dollars
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to teach them how to stay alive number one, prevent dying,
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but how to stay alive in case something happens, and
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he charges you know, five, ten, twenty five thousand dollars. Now,
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his marketing is all geared towards survival, safety, and avoidance
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of anything disastrous happening while you're in the wilderness. So
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he has an audience he's talking to with very specific fear,
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very specific pains they're looking to avoid, and very specific
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outcomes of pleasure they want to have. But the human
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brain does not focus on the pleasure first. Our brain
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processes information in marketing, all right, is this thing that
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I'm reading, watching, seeing gonna help me with my survival
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or my safety, or my family safety, or my company's safety.
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If you're in that type of a business, you lead
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with that. And the newspapers have a terrible saying. You know,
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it goes, if it bleeds, it leads. So you're marketing.
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The number one priority of all marketing in twenty twenty
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five and twenty twenty six is number one is to
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get people's attention. Now, why would we do that? Well,
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two billion posts a day, two billions. You and I
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have to figure out how while somebody is scrolling left,
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scrolling right up and down TikTok, you know, going from
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a zoom meeting to TikTok to Instagram, the Facebook, to YouTube,
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to LinkedIn to whatever platform they're on, you and I
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have to bypass what they're there for and interrupt them.
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It's called interruptive marketing. And the only way we're going
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to do that is by creating a marketing message that
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is going to go right into their subconscious mind that
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is focusing on safety, survival, and the avoidance of pain
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or discomfort. First. Then we lead them, once we have
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their attention, down a path to keep their attention and
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create trust and rapport by helping them. So, when we're
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doing what I call is neuro marketing, we have to
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understand that. You know, a lot of times people think
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that you're marketing to the conscious brain, but you're not.
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All information is coming into the subconscious mind first. And
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if there is a resonant match around something that somebody
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is afraid of happening now or in the future, if
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something has to do with their safety, mental emotional, physical,
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financial safety. They're going to pay attention to that first. Now,
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there are some people that might just want to waste
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time on social media, and you have to interrupt those
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people because they're there having fun wasting time. So your
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marketing has got to be even more precise in twenty
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twenty five than it ever has, especially now with AI
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that is going to be flooding every social media channel
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going forward.
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So you know, among the audience, I'm sure this entrepreneurs
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and a great diversity of types of business B two C,
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B to B, and some businesses have very long sales cycle,
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some very short, you know B two C online digital sales,
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very short sales cycle. But somewhere along the line, you've
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gotten somebody's attention and you've gotten them into some kind
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of process where you're nurturing them and rolling them in
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the value of the product you offer or the service
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you offer. And then at some point, whether it's short
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line sales cycle, they're going to make a decision to
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buy or not to buy, the purchase or not purchase,
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and so what are some of the emotions evolved in
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those decisions? What are some of the emotional triggers that
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are important to facilitate so someone's willing to make that
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purchase decision.
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So one of the things I teach all my students
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is meet them at the pain and lead them to
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the gain. So for everybody, as a program, product or service,
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we're all really in the transformation business, right, but we're
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really in the transportation business. People don't like, let's forget about,
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you know, buying a candy bar, you know, at the
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grocery store because we're hungrier. We just like you know, suites.
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You know. If somebody's buying a program, product or service,
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they're actually buying how the outcome will make them feel.
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We don't buy programs, products or services. We buy how
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we feel the outcome will be. And if we can
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create a feeling that people want and they can afford,
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what it is that you are asking for that feeling
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for that. I know we think we're selling them this
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productor program, but we're not selling that. You know, we're
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selling them a future state that might be ten minutes
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from now or it might be ten weeks from now.
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And so I always ask myself, what is it that
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my program's product, service help people move away from and
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remove from their life that they no longer want and
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what is that worth to them? What is that worth
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them mentally? Was it worth of emotion? What is it
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worth the financially to have that peace of mind, to
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have that confidence, to have that certainty, to have that consistency,
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to have that predictability. That's what I sell, and people
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are willing to pay me. Personally. My private clients paid
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ten thousand dollars an hour for me to help give
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them that. Now, I'm a very very high end coach
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or consultant. You can get what I do from other people,
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probably a lot less, but if you'll want to work
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with me because of the work that I've done in
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the world. So you have to ask off this question,
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what is the ultimate state that they're looking for that
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your program, product, service, or thing will give them? And
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then before you even get into the selling side of it,
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you have to be in the qualifying side of it.
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Can I show you something? I have this over here.
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I'm going to just show you this graph that I
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show all of my students, and this graph says five percent,
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fifty percent, eighty percent. Right, So let's say this there's
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one hundred people, there's five percent that want, need, and
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can afford what you have right now. You need to
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find them first. There's twenty percent that want, need, maybe
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can afford, but they're not ready right now, so you
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need to nurture them through dialogue, qualification, information, and putting
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them through a proper process. Eighty percent stop marketing to them.
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They don't want, need, or can afford what you have,
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So all of your marketing should be on this twenty percent. Now,
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there's twenty percent. What you need to know as a
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business owner in order to do marketing right is what
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are their biggest that If we said, okay, let's just
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think about one person who wants, needs it, can afford
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what you have. Let's think of one person. What is
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a male or female? What age group? Where are they now?
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Let's answer these questions that one person. Do you know
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what his or her biggest pain is right now that
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they're experiencing in their life or business or whatever that
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your program, product or service eliminates. Write that down. There's
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marketing for you. Do you know what his or her
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biggest fear is right now as relates to their personal life,
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family life, business life. Market to that. Do you know
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what he or she is the so frustrated with right now?
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That your program, product or service good help alleviate. So
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we're always looking for one of the biggest pains, fears, frustrations,
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irritations that they're having right now or they're worried about
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in the future. Your marketing starts there by addressing those
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things and meeting them right at that. I'll give you
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an example, a crazy example. Hey, whoever's listening right now,
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If you have really, really painful, itchy hemorrhoids, pay attention now.
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For those of you who don't have hemorrhoids, of pay attention.
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If you're a little behind the eight ball right now
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and you don't have enough money in the bank, and
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you're tired of being broke and you're frustrated and embarrassed
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by it, pay attention. Don't want to share with you
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a technique that will help you get out of that.
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So what I just did, whether it's hemorrhoids or a
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lack of money causing pain, I can talk to people
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directly about what they're experiencing. And in doing that, you
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don't even talk to the conscious brain. This is what
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most people don't understand. We're always talking to the ubconscious
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brain first. And if there's a resonant match with what
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I am either thinking or feeling right now, or I
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have been thinking or feeling. It sends a message for
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us to pay attention to that person thing, video, audio,
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text message. So we want to know their pain spears
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for stracial's irritations, and then we also want to know,
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like what do they want, what do they need? What
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do they aspire to have? What are their goals? So
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you tell them if you want to move away from
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this and you want achieve this, pay attention. I have
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a book that'll help you, a video, a checklist and infographic,
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a gift, a masterclass, a personal consultation for free. Now
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I can say, if you are this and you have
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these issues, challenges and or wants these era aspirations, then
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pay attention because I have a way to help you.
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You will get rid of everybody that you should not
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be talking to the eighty percent. You'll only be talking
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to the people that are in your orbit. And then
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your job. My job is to follow this simple rule. Ready,
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don't make me think. Keep it really simple for people
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to understand what step one, what's step two, what's step three?
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What step four? And just help me move along these
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steps so I don't have to think, and you make
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it easy for me to say yes to you.
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Well, you're so good at speaking directly to the subconscious
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that when you are doing the one about him rhights,
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I had to check in do I have Fortunately I don't,
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but you had me for a minute there.
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So and I could use anything there right. Yeah, absolutely,
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I could say, hey, have you ever been afraid of snakes?
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And I'll get.
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People's attention to afraid of snakes. The people who are
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not afraid of snakes, they go no, not me, They
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opt out. So marketing, by its very nature, opts in
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the right people, opts out the wrong people. And here's
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the real gift everyone for what marketing is ready, this
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will change all of your life. I don't care if
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you're doing you know, a dollar a year in revenue
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or one hundred million dollars. Here's the essence of all
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great marketing. Great marketing is not about the prospect knowing
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about how good your program, product or service is. It's
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not about your branding. All great marketing gets the prospect
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or suspect to viscerally feel. You get me, You understand
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what I'm feeling, what I'm experiencing. You understand me. Maybe
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even better than I understand myself, and you can explain
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it to me, and then you can show me a
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path away from this and towards what I want better
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than I have been able to do it on my
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own thus far. That's great marketing.
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Well, well, you're so powerfully communicating. John has said. As
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human beings, we are emotional decision makers, you know, and
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it's well known. Like we're looking to buy a car,
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we might spend weeks in consumer reports doing all our
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study and analysis, but then we go on the car
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lot and make a completely emotional decision because that red
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one over there just really floats our boat. Right, So
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we're emotional decision makers.
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Well, we're emotional decision makers, but there's a part before
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even the emotions, right, So there's this instinctual part of us, okay,
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that is deeper than even the amigdal aside that's reacted
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as an emotion, and that is, you know, the part
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of us that is genetically engineered, predisposed for one hundred
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and fifty million years as Homo sapiens are you know,
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humans in this species to avoid pain and discomfort and
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seek safety survival before pain or pleasure and gain. So
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when we understand that words is just energy. We need
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to make sure we use the right words in the
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right order at the right time. Words on a piece
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of paper, your headline, your byline, that's your like New
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York real estate, whether you get attention or not. The
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first four or five words you use on a social
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post and a video, that's all you have. You have
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a second. You don't have ten fifteen seconds anymore. People's
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attention spans have gone to near zero, so your communication
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has got to be near perfect. And there's no room anymore,
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you know, for oh, I made a mistake with a
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new audience, because they're gone. It's fast food now.
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So in terms of people may be familiar with the
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trium brain idea, the brain is one holistic enterprise, very
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complex and eary pendent. But still are these three functional areas.
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The reptilian brain that's all about fight or flight and
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survival that you've been referencing, and then the mid brain
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with the amigdal and the Olympics system that's about most processing.
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So we're really addressing those two parts of the brain.
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And if we get somebody up lost in their neocortex
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thinking about things, we may have lost them already got it.
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Yeah, we can get them into that neo cortex, the
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thinking part of their brain. But from a wiring perspective,
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the emotional brain sends signals to the logical brain, but
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the logical brain doesn't send signals down to the emotional brain.
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The emotional brain, okay, is really what controls, but the
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instinctual brain is involved in this as well. Initially to
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get the attention, and then we want to lead people
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by meeting them where they're at and leading them to
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where they want to be.
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I said, you kind of reference this already, John, but
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I'd like I wonder if you could talk a little
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bit about our ability to reframe belief systems and our
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own as entrepreneur. As you mentioned some of these negative
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beliefs that resulted from our childhood conditioning and experiences and
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so forth that could get in the way of actualizing
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our lives and our dreams and so forth. And then
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in some way, our marketing is also reframing beliefs, possibly
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to on some level for our perspective clients and customers.
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I wonder if you could first talk about and entrepreneurs
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need to reframe their own beliefs, the ones that could
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be getting in their way. And then how in some level,
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you know, our customer, our client is going to buy
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when they somehow have a belief that what we're offering
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is either going to help them avoid that pain or
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get rid of that pain, and or it's going to
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meet that pleasure that they're looking for. So if you
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could first talk about it in terms of our own
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brain and the need to be reframing beliefs that get
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in our own way, and the fact that we actually
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can do that, that we could actually change our brain.
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Yeah, so you know, it was twenty thirty years ago.
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We used to believe we're hardwired, right, that we're you know,
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just like your mother, just like your father. Oh my god,
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you're remind me of your grandfather or grandmother. And yeah,
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there's genetic predispositions. But again, if we just think about
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a belief as nothing more than a pattern like software, right,
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like software and computer. We upgrade software all the time
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on our computer, on our cell phones, even in our cars. Well,
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why not upgrade your own software. What if our beliefs
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was just like software, right, something that was encoded, whether
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it was because of things you heard, things you saw,
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things you experienced, things you were told were true about
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you when you didn't have the ability to go, oh,
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that's not true about me. So if a belief is
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nothing more than a reinforced pattern, then can we deliberately
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create and reinforce a more powerful pattern, a new pattern?
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And the answer is, of course, the science of neuroplasticity
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means that the brain has the ability to be plastic
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and moldable, and we can refire to rewire our beliefs
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about ourselves, our self image, our beliefs about you know,
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our capabilities, our identity, and so you know, one of
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the things, for example, that I started to do literally
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forty four years is when I had my first goal
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in fleet. You'll love this. I was making dollars sixty
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five an hour, and my first goal was to make
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ten thousand dollars a month, and they was making seventy
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five dollars a week, right, three hundred dollars a month.
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I want to go to ten thousand dollars a month.
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And I thought, I was like, only millionaires make ten
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thousand dollars a month back then. And so my mentor
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said to me, he says, great, like, what would you
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need to believe in order to feel self confident you
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can make ten thousand dollars a month. That's why I
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guess I would need to believe that I'm smart enough.
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He said, good, write that down. I'm so happy and
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grateful for the fact that I am smart enough to
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earn ten thousand dollars a month. What else would you
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need to believe? Well, I would need to believe that
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I'm worthy of it. I would need to believe I
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deserve it. I would need to believe I'm capable of
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doing it. I would need to believe that I can
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learn the knowledge and the skills. I would need to
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believe that I could develop the hab he said, write
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it down, Write it down, Write it down. So I
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wrote it all down. I'm so happy and grateful that
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I now had the happy I'm so happy and grateful
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that I now feel deserving of I'm so happy and
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grateful for the fact that and I wrote it down
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and go. Now what I do is he says, Well,
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what I want you to do, and you're talking about
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the trying and brain, I'll give you like a triad system.
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So he says, Now, I want you to visualize it,
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see yourself earning ten grand a month. So I close
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my eyes and I would like try to see myself
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earning ten grand a month, and I just saw like
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black and blurry and nothing. He goes like, where would
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you travel if you were earning ten thousand dollars a month?
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I Saii? I remember Hawaii came up first, and then
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the Caribbean and then Florida, I says, And what kind
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of car would you go? Oh, that's easy, I would
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be driving a Mercedes Benz convertible. Great. And what kind
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of house would you have? Oh, I'd have a four
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bedroom house. And who would you help? I said, no,
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I was making ten grand a month. I would help
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my father. He doesn't make enough money. He's a cab driver,
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he's a gambler. My mother works really hard as a seamstress.
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I would help her. And as he asked me what
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I would do with the ten thousand dollars a month,
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all of a sudden, I can visualize, and I could,
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so the triad was visualized. What it would be like
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for that affirmation to be real? How would you behave
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if you had the self confidence right now? How would
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you think? What would you believe to be true? A boy? Yourself?
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If you had the self confidence of self image, the identity,
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and so I would go into the visualization of the affirmation,
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so I would visualize part one of the triad. Then
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I would affirm, So it is visualize affirm it that yes,
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this is true, this is happening right now, because I
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wanted to create and reinforce a new pattern. And then
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he said, once you visualize an affirm, I now want
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you to confirm. And what did that mean? What does
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it mean to visualize, affirm and confirm? He says, Now
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I want you to go out for the next hour
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and take action as if you're making ten grand an hour,
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you believe these things to be true. Take the action
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aligned with the visualization and the affirmation. I said, okay,
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what should I do? He says, Well, the confirm is
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if somebody's making ten thousand dollars a month, for example,
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they'd be making phone calls. Since I was selling real
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estate back then as a nineteen year old right or
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I was door knocking. Phone calls are door knocking? Is
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I want you to go a door knock on fifty
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fifty dollars today and I want you to call one
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hundred people today. I was like, wow, okay, well, what
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should I say, he said, well, here's a script to learn.
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So I learned the script for door knocking. I learned
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the script for phone calling, and you know what, six
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months later, I was making ten thousand dollars a month.
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So visualize a firm confirmed. So you always confirmed by
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following through with a little bit of the behavior with
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what you're visualizing and affirming, that creates the neural networks
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that you need because the visceral learning, the neural pattern
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is created not just in the visualization, which it is
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because visualization is a simulation. Affirmation okay, is affirming in
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one's mind. It just another way to get that neural pattern,
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create an anchor. But then it's in the taking of
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the action that it's cements because now we have excitement,
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we have emotion, we have cortisol, eppnephron, we have fear,
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we have dopamine, all the neurochemicals responsible for coalescing. Okay,
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the pattern like glue. And so I learned how to
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do that forty four years ago and I haven't stopped,
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and I've taught it to over a million students in
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the last number of years. So those are just some
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of the ways that you can do this.
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It's incredibly empowering. And we're going to talk at the
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end of our conversation today about a wonderful free book
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that goes through all that that we're going to offer.
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I have something that I just finished writing. It's another
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one of my new books. It's called The Power of Visulation.
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Unleash your brain's full potential to manifest your biggest goals
663
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and dreams. And what I did is I created about
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a twenty five twenty twenty page book and I'm going
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to put this on Amazon, but we're gonna give it
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to all of your Watchers followers as our gift today.
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Wish I had to do that afterwards.
668
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Wonderful, wonderful, Thank you so much. So, you know, you
669
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were talking about some of the keys to marketing before,
670
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and so let's say, you know, you've gotten somebody's attention
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with's the job one, right, and it's got getting harder
672
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and harder. So we've got to break through, get their attention,
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interrupt what they're doing, and that's probably going to be
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around some kind of pain that focuses are attention they're
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concerned about. And then you know, so we have that
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pain and wears and then you know there's a solution.
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But yeah, it's pain, fear, frustration, or irritation. Or we
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can also talk about wants, needs, goals, and aspirations. So
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we have eight different things that we could lead with,
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but I always like to lead with eighty percent on
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the pain's faces, face irritations.
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Which is the way there and structured anyway. So it's
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also Maslow's hierarchy of needs as well. So we've gotten
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our attention around that as you're describing, But at some
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point they have to believe that what we're offering is
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actually going to help them avoid that pain or reach
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that solution or have that pleasure. So what's involved in
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changing her Because their initial belief may be a sense
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of weariness, like somebody's trying to sell me something, although
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if our marketing is really good, maybe that we won't
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get them into that mindset. But nonetheless they've got to
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come to believe that, yes, I believe this could do
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it for me.
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Yeah. So first, once we get their attention, the very
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next step is we have to build some level of
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trust and rapport. So everybody promises everything. Now, pay attention
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to me, follow my this, eat my that, watch my this,
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buy my that, and so we're all like, I'm interested,
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but I'm scared because the last time I trusted, or
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my friend trusted, or my daughter or mother or husband
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or a wife trusted, they got burned. So we're standing
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guard and that's okay. So we want to build trust
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and rapport. So why not give value in advance, like
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give value, like show me, don't tell me, show me.
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So I just gave you this triathces to visualize a
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firm confirm like do that. I'll even give you free
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book to show you how to do that for free.
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And listen, you like what I do? You like what
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fleet does? Look deeper into what else we have? Right,
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So we want to give value in advance. We want
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to showcase our expertise. We want to showcase who we are. Listen,
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people feel right people, People can tell whether I'm bullshitting
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right now, whether I'm caring, whether I want to give
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right And everybody wants to buy, but nobody wants to
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be sold. So why if you're really good at whatever
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it is that you do, if your product or service
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really good. Have you ever been traveling? You know, you're
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walking down a boardwalk and they give you a piece
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of pizza or a piece of their Italian food or
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a piece of their seafood to taste if you oh
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my god. And then you go look at the restaurant
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and there's tons of people there where they're ice cream. Well,
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they're giving you a taste in advance. Well, showcase your work.
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And then since people are skeptical, show me how it works.
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Like people are always asking what is this? Why should
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I care? How much is it? How does it work?
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How long will it take? Will this work for me?
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What evidence do you have? Remember I said to you earlier,
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don't make me think. Those are the seven things that
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are going on in their head. What is it? Why
731
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should I care? How much is it okay? How will
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it help me with my program? Well, my problem paying?
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Whatever it is? What evidence do you have, how much
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does it cost? How long will it take? What if
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it doesn't work for me? That's the other one. Those
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are you know, seven eight things that you need to
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answer sometime in the discussion, whether it's online or offline,
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one to one, one too many. That's why I said earlier,
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don't make me think you need to answer or all
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of these things along the way. So if I take
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your ex if I read your book, if I use
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your checklist, if I get your infograph, I watch your videos,
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if I buy your ex like, answer those questions for
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me and then show me evidence to take my risk
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factor down so that I feel safe. Remember safety and security.
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I want safety and security. First, I want to avoid
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pain or discomfort, make it the wrong decision. Second, I
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want to conserve energy, don't make me think. Third, then
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I want my pleasure. Fourth. So there's a hierarchy in
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neuromarketing and neuro selling. And when people feel that they
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like you, they know you, they trust you, and you've
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shown them how this can impact them, and they want
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it needed and can afford it. You don't have to
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do any selling. People like, how do I sign up?
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How do I join you? Because I want to be part.
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Of this wonderful So in your experience with your own
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businesses and all the million, thousands of bus since clients
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you've helped, you know in our audience, the wonderful creatives
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entrepreneurs in our audience, you know, they may be at
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various stages, but we often find ourselves stuck in these plateaus.
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Maybe we've gotten to six figures, maybe we've gotten to
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seven figures, and it just figures. I don't see how
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I grow from here. I can only do so much
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of X right and we kind of get stuck in
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these plateaus. And I wonder if your experience what helps
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people kind of get unstuck and take their game and
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take their business to the next level.
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In your experience, businesses go through different stages. From zero
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to one hundred thousand is a stage. One hundred thousand
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to a million is a stage. You know. Five to
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ten million is a stage. Ten to twenty five, fifty
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millions of stage, you know, fifty two hundreds of stage.
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One hundred million to a billion is a stage. And
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every stage requires new systems, new processes, sometimes new people,
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and especially what you have to really be aligned with
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right now, like not next year, right now is just
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changed the game. AI has changed the game forever. So
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whatever your processing systems in twenty twenty one, two three, four,
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their history, they are history. You have to retool right now.
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You have to adapt right now AI this year. If
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you're a one person shop or a five person shop,
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you can use AI to do the work of a
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fifty person shop or business. Now. The fact that you
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may not know how to do it. That means you
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need to upskill yourself or bring people on your team
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that are upskilling. I am retooling my entire company for
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every department to be an AI powered department. Every department.
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We just had our meeting this morning, okay, talking about
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that again, which we've been doing now for the last
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one hundred days. So everybody has to retool your mindset,
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retool your skill set, retool your systems and processes based
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on AI ready now, and change ready now. And that
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just requires another version of you. So I always have
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this reminder on my desk of the monarch butterfly here
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to remind me. You know, I want to keep evolving
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from the caterpillar that I've gotten used to being to
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the monarch butterfly that I want to be. Then I
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go through the metamorphosis again. Then this becomes, you know,
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a convenient, normal, habitual, comfortable, and then I have to
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interrupt that cycle again and become another new version of me.
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So what got you here will not get you there
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except the mindset, okay, that you can change and you
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can adapt and you can shift, and you can become
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a better, newer version of you.
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You know, that's the amazing thing John about this journey
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of entrepreneurship. Those cycles you're referencing sometimes you're reading the
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business books that even you know some of your key
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people they may be able to grow to one two cycles,
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but a SIMILARI you're going to have to bring in
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some people who have actually been at that next level.
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But you, as the founder of the entrepreneur, you're still there.
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You've got to grow. I mean, at some point you
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can replace yourself or you know, exit or whatever, but
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you got to get through a lot of cycles yourself.
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So this growth mindset, this ability to change, evolve and
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grow ourselves is like it seems to be at the
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very heart of our entrepreneurship.
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Yeah, and listen. You don't have to if you don't
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want to, that's up to you. Listen. I got a
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call literally yesterday from a friend of mine that haven't
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talked to in I don't know forty years. I used
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to actually live with this person and he hasn't read
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one book since we lived together. Now one book. He
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hasn't been to one event, he's not listened to one podcast,
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and he's slightly older than I am. He looked like
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he was twenty years older than I was, and he was.
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He looked like he was on such a decline. I
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was shocked. And he was making a little bit more
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money than he was making when we lived together in
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our twenties. And yes he's a husband, and yes he's
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a father, and yes he's a grandfather. He's gotten older,
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but he has not grown. He's actually gone backwards. He
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looks worse, sounded worse. It was like, oh my god,
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you have not grown. That's his choice. So growth is
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a choice staying. If people think they stay the same,
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no you don't. Nothing stays the same. You know, universal
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law says create or disintegrate. So your choice. And there's
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never been in the history of our species. I just
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finished watching a wonderful PBS special on Leonardo da Vinci
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in the Renaissance era. And you know, six hundred, five
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hundred and fifty years ago, whatever what we're in right now,
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the AI era will dwarf the Renaissance era, the agriculture revolution,
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industrial revolution, computer revolution by a factor that we can't
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even imagine. We have just entered the quantum realm of change.
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And you're either going to adapt now and become the
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better version of yourself. And there's paths to doing that,
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or as Charles Darwin said, you know, adapt or become extinct.
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I've been really enjoying one of de Pauk Troper's latest books,
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The Quantum Body, and as sooner or later we're probably
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going to be talking about quantum marketing.
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I suppose, yeah, we're already doing quantum marketing, you know,
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in a sense, you know, neuro marketing is accessing you know,
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levels of the human consciousness. There's I can't remember the
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name of the author, but many years where he wrote
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thinking fast, Thinking slow, and like I said, even as
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I'm speaking with you right now in the audience, some
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of you may be watching me right and I'm sitting
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in San Diego. You might be seeing my bright colored
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shirt and my nice you know, colored glasses, and my
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light right is traveling through the camera that's not connected
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to anything, you know, beaming up to a satellite somewhere,
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back down to your mobile phone, computer or iPad, going
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through your camera, you know, the light going through your
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eyes at a slow enough pace for your brain to
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decipher that guy talking, knowing what he's saying. When you know,
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whenever you were born, you had no idea what I
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was saying you didn't even understand language, you didn't even
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see when you were born, and your brain's deciphering, decoding
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all of that and making sense of it, hopefully sense
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of it. Ah, that's a miracle. So we are already
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communicating at the quantum level. And then you have this
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feeling about what's going on right now that you're either
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excited about it, you're either afraid of it, you're uncertain
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about it. That's a feeling that the words that I'm
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using in our conversation is causing within you. That's quantum level,
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you know, communication. But then there's the you know, the
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entanglements that's we're all entangled, and there's communication happening at
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vast distances you know that we're aware of also, And
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I think we're going to find out a lot more
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about that fleet over the next several years as well.
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It's an interesting time to be alive, to say the
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very least, for sure. Absolutely, thank you so much, John,
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this has been illuminating.
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Again.
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I'd like to reference that beautiful ebook you showed us
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a moment ago that you put together. While it's a
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physical book, you have there the power of visualization, so
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that's available to everyone in our audience right now, you
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can see the link right down below the video here
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and click on that you can access that and learn
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more about John's work and programs.
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Yeah, it'll take everybody to that page right over there
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and they just download their copy right over there.
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Wonderful.
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So we'll give that to everybody who's a gift. You
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have to buy anything, and it'll be our gift to
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you for you know, making your life a little bit
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easier and more of a masterpiece.
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Thank you so much, John asrap Neural Jim an incredible
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business entrepreneur Marketer, Thank you so much for all you
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continue to share with so many and the success you
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help so many create.
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Thank you, Fleet, appreciate you, thank you.
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Thank you for joining me on the Radical Responsibility Podcast. Remember,
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real change happens when we commit to our growth, face
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our challenges with compassion, and stay open to transformation. If
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you found this episode helpful, I encourage you to subscribe
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Stay grounded, stay present, and stay true to you. Take
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care