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Hi, guys, Welcome to The Factor
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podcast. I'm your host, Jessica
Riddle. If this is your first time
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tuning in, welcome and thanks for
listening. In today's episode, we're wrapping
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up the final segment of this two
part series with doctor Davis McAllister on creating
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a prehabilitation program. In part one, we discussed how using this proactive approach
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to prepare for activity can decrease the
chances of serious injury and optimize performance.
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Today, we'll discuss this evidence based
components that every prehab program should have.
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We'll dive into the research surrounding ACL
injury as well as the application of force
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and movement as it relates to injury
prevention. Our instructor is doctor Davis McAllister,
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a clinic faculty doctor for the Parker
University Dallas Wellness Clinic and a chiropractor
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that is served as a team doctor
for several sports teams from the amateurs to
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the pros. Prior to his career
in chiropractic, doctor McCallister served in military
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intelligence for the US Army. He
holds a bachelor's degree in anatomy, a
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master's degree in educational leadership and has
certifications in adaptive rehabilitation and acupuncture, amongst
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others. His specialties include chiropractic treatment
for sports related injuries, rehabilitation, taping,
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and soft tissue. So if you
aren't currently doing any prehab programming with
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your patients, I would listen closely
and take notes. I can guarantee this
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training will teach you strategies you can
implement in practice right away. Let's dive
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in so functional assessment. This a
by no, means a comprehensive list of
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all the possibilities that you can do
for a functional assessment. These are the
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things that I typically use when I
go through an assess somebody for an ac
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L injury risk as well as other
things that's looking for a lot of other
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things as well, but focusing on
aco risk. These are the main ones
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that I pull the information from.
So there's a list here that you can
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see. These are possibilities that you
can do when I go out and I
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go assess a team. These are
the majority of the tests that I will
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do. These on them. So
with backsquat, back squats key component of
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functional assessments. So you have the
functional movement screen or FMS, you have
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certain elements of the squat that allow
for assessments for deficiencies that lead to ACL
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risk. So we talked about lateral
displacement. Those are some of the things
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you also look for, anterior drift
knee collapse. You'll typically see the knee
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collapse more on going up out of
the squat position than you do going down,
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So those are things that need to
be addressed. Trump position deficits reflecting
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adequate core strength, which we already
talked about, and that will translate to
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deficits into hip mobility and asymmetrical positioning. Hip position definits relate to asymmetrical wayshifts
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and build the lateral and frontal plane. Then your frontal plane knee alignment deficits
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may present as valgus or various shifts
of the need due to poor neuromuscular control
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and function. On rare occasions,
you may see people that will have a
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valgus shift on one side and then
a various shift on the other, which
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means it just looks like their knees
are going like this when they've bend,
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and so those are things that you
need to go through and correct. So
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frontal plane knee alignment deficits may present
as valgus or varius due to poor neuromuscular
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control and function, so it could
also be a lack of strength in the
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lower extremity. That's probably one of
the hardest things to get high school athletes
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to understand, especially the non football
male players, and then just female players.
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The majority of female programs that I've
seen, they are very very lacking
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and their strengthened and conditioning programs,
in particular on the strength side. They
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don't like to lift weights a lot, and I understand the need to be
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able to do more functional lifting,
but at some point we've got to be
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able to increase the weights. I
have five kids, and I've seen the
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variety of programs. Both of my
daughters play volleyball, and I've seen the
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program that they put them through,
and they lift the same weight every time
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they go in, whether it's in
season or off season, and they never
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increase and there's no strength development at
all. So another thing to look at
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the backspat nieve valgus when the medial
aspect that knee passes the medial valuolis so
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decreased hip abductor and external rotation strength, increased hip adductor and ankle dorseflection restriction,
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So it could also be a compensatory
mechanism from pest planets that we talked
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about with flat feet, the ankles
roll in that you also have to look
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at ank orseflection and determine if that's
being a contributing factor for the lack of
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mobility and poor mechanics. Also,
during squat tibial translation angles, it should
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be maintained and parallel to properly positioned
upright trunk deficit will be excessive restricted translation.
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So if you have excessive anterior translation
increases sheer forces and knee extends or
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torque. This can be the result
of post to your chain weakness in particular
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weak astroc solius, wee camstrings,
weak blots, quad dominance, all those
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things that we've already talked about.
So restricted t build translation results and increased
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anterior torso translation. So as they
go down, you'll see the upper bodies
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start to drift forward more and more
over the knee and ankle to the extent
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where it goes out front. Because
sometimes it's even at what I referred to
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as the folding chair. They think
they're going deeper because the arupper body is
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going down, not the lower body, and they're not even properly engaging the
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muscles and get a proper range of
motion in their squad with a lower body.
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So this also can be a result
of ankle restriction from posterior talus translation,
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decreased hip mobility or decreased foot mobility. You'll see some of them that
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they get a posterior restriction and the
ankles and that will inhibit dors deflection and
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so on the car practice side.
Just a simple adjustment of that ankle to
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bring that talus back into the proper
midline position from a posterior restriction should be
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able to help increase that dorsy flection. Then it's a matter of also strengthening
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the ankle to be able to prevent
that from being a recurring problem. Foot
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position and entirely planned it on the
ground during the entire emotion, so you
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don't want to see heels coming up. Weight should be distributed over the midfoot
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to the heel and then the biomechanical
foot deficiencies translate up to the kneast and
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hips, so it just starts at
the ground, it works its way up.
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Why balance test or star excursion balance
test. There's these are similar tests,
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but they're not exactly the same.
I use the why balance itself.
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You can go through FMS as well
as part of an SMS assessment, and
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we actually have the sliding blocks and
so forth that we measure with and instead,
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a composite score of less than ninety
four percent lower limb results in a
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six to point five times greater increased
risk for lower extreamting injury, and a
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female athlete anterior reach asymmetry of greater
than four centimeters results in two points seven
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times increased risk in all high school
athletes, so it's pretty significant there.
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Another study on D three football players
showed a three point five percent higher risk
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of non contact injury with a composite
score of less than eighty nine point six
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percent. And so when you go
through and do the score, there's a
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composite score that you develop based on
the formula that incorporates lend length and distances
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that they can reach in multiple directions, and then you put that into a
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composite score and you get a percentage
of efficiency within each side and the lower
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limb. The drop jump screening test
that's probably used to measure knee valgus values
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by measuring knee separation during three separate
frames of reference by recording images from three
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jumps from a boss. It helps
if you do have video imaging if at
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all possible to do this, you
can do it individually, but also helps
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if you're having to do large numbers
of people. It helps to have that
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imaging to be able to go through
and view that. Most studies were related
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to the use of newer muscular training
programs to improve knee alignment, particularly in
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basketball and volleyball players. Currently,
there's no research to support using this test
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as it means of predicting injury risk. So I mean this is something that
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can be used, but it's going
to be an additive. This is not
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going to be able to stand the
loan to be able to assess injury.
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You're going to have to combine it
with other things. This would just be
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one component that you could use to
help with comparing information that you found from
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other tests. So the usefulness of
this test is related more to asymmetry during
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landing and kneevalgus, and it can
be used in conjunction with a force plate.
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So your tuck jump assessment, your
tuck jump assessment is commonly used.
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You'll see this commonly used with pts
and athletic trainers and performance specialists. It's
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going to assess ten aspects of the
jump and only texts about ten seconds to
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perform, so it's pretty efficient and
you have a couple of minutes to score
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while visually recording the test from a
frontal and satical plane. Does it require
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a box Like the lists, the
LS and the drop jump test. It's
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highly recommended that the same clinician should
administer so that way you're not running the
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risk of inter rate or reliability issues
of the same per doing the assessment each
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time. So if you're going to
do a pre ni POST, this ideal
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that the same person do both the
pre and the post, And if you
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have multiple people within the team,
then it should be the same person into
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administering that particular test each time for
consistency, so you're landing error scoring system.
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This is the less test similar to
the drop jump screening test. The
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exception is that it's recorded from the
front and sidgital plane. Testimants jump from
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a thirty centimeter box to the point
of it equillan to fifty percent of their
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height away from the box, so
you actually got to measure their high go
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fifty percent of that and measure that
line out to the front of the box.
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And it's followed by a maximal vertibal
jump. Jumpers scored based on seven
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technique in ten landing errors during four
jumps. Diticipants with low less scores demonstrate
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less knee and hip fletch and angle, so less knee valgus and hip adduction,
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increased internal knee and hip internal rotation
with interatibual sheer forces, and it
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was established as a reliable assessment with
recurrent THELID. It's a high value test.
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Research shows that the optimal cut point
for aco injury predictability was five point
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one seven through study of eight hundred
and twenty nine YUS. That's a pretty
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good number for a study to be
able to support evidence. The same study
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showed that those that had a less
score of five or more were at a
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ten point seven greater risk ratio for
injury is compared to those who scored less
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than five. The single leg motion
analysis this is basically a sidestep cutting maneuver
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that you go through an assess is
also referred to as the change of direction
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assessment. One of three primary techniques, with the others being the crossover cut
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and the split step or the other
two components to it. The side step
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generates higher degrees of knee valgus and
internal rotation movements key stressors to the ACL
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with high degree of test retest liability. One of the main things that I'm
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going to look for on this test
is the over extension not being able to
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not having proper weight distribution core controlled
during the course of that movement to be
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able to maintain and control momentum,
especially if it has to be a quick
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stop start type situation. So tests
on post a CEO reconstruction athletes show that
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eighty percent had greater than are equal
to five degrees of knee valgus on the
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plant foot, with sixty percent showing
an increased augus on the uninvolved leg.
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So that's that's something that really needs
to be looked at closely. So things
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that you need to consider when you're
doing this assessments. Forces generated during non
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competition are not as great as during
so it's really hard to replicate competition level
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forces and so, but if somebody
is already showing signs of lack of control
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over extension, excessive knee valgus internal
rotation, that type of thing during this
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simple test, then it's going to
be exaggerated more when they're out there actually
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competing. So there is some value
of that. Plan versus unplanned movement,
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So redirecting having a plant cut,
if you're trying to avoid somebody, how
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do you deal with that? Let's
see fatigue versus non fatigued Sharper angles generate
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greater own forces. Things to consider
with this one force is generated during non
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competition are not as great, which
we just talked about. Plan versus unplanned
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movement. Fatigue Sharper angles generate greater
ground forces approach velocity, so velocities are
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typically higher in competition. Visual disturbance
or dual cognitions such as as with a
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ball and interacting with other individuals,
will generate higher ground forces or make slow
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reaction times. So when they're having
multiple things like dribbling a ball, that
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type of stuff that's drawing more on
the brain and it's going to affect their
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ability to be able to properly react, to be able to focus on proper
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movement mechanics. So the time based
tasks may provide greater simulation of effort,
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So do things like a shuttle test
that type of stuff for a redirection that
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you can kind of get a decent
idea. When they're trying to do it
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as fast as they possibly can,
you may be able to get a little
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bit better assessment with increased effort.
So some basic components of an ACO prehab
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program. So after a value to
several research papers, they prove the need
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and validity of prevention programs for ACL
risk. Females have a risk reduction of
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fifty two percent and males have a
risk reduction of eighty five percent for a
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non contact ACL injury. So there's
some high validity for having an ACO injury
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prevention program within an athletic program.
So six principles that you need to consider.
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H Okay, the earlier that you
start working on these mechanics, the
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better studies are showing that introduction of
a CEO programs and younger athletes are more
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effective than older athletes. It's one
of those things that's better to take somebody
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that doesn't know any better and train
them up from the get go, rather
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than trying to take somebody who's already
developed bad mechanical habits and trying to get
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them to change them. It's it's
a whole lot better if you can start
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with youth programs and be able to
work them up that way, and while
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you're trying to work on the ones
that are older or trying to undo their
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bad habits. So biomechanics, there's
a need for assessing addressing different movement patterns
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that involve an increased possibility for increased
need. VALGUS clients is a huge deal.
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So compliance rates greater than sixty six
percent have shown a rate reduction of
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a CEO A injury by eighty two
percent. So basically, if they follow
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the program, it's going to work. If they don't follow the program like
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they're supposed to, you're gonna it's
not going to be as effective as it
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needs to. Okay, So number
four, you have dosage, and average
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of studies has shown that a session
should last between twenty to thirty minutes for
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three to four times per week.
The program should be initiated during preseason conditioning
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and maintain throughout the season in the
off season. So it's this is one
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of those deals that people look at
this while I don't have twenty to thirty
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minutes to just focus on aco injury
prevention type programs in my athletic program,
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it's because you need to take it
and incorporate it with the other things that
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you're doing. You have your different
phases, so you have your immediate postseason,
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you have your preseason workouts, and
then you go into your end season.
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Those are all different components, but
these are things that you can incorporate
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and work into your program to be
able to assess and to be able to
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work and train so that you can
decrease that risk of injury. Feedback there
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should be a combination of visual and
verbal feedback with verbal correction que from the
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coach trainer, and visual in some
form of video or training film. This
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is where as a practitioner, you
can be able to come in and be
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able to make observation because coaches,
when think about a basketball coach, but
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basketball coaches out there watching, they're
watching to see if their players are executing
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proper alignment, if they're going into
proper formation, if they're setting their screens
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properly, those types of things.
They're not paying attention necessarily to the technique
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of what's going on. So you
need to have somebody specifically assigned for that
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to be able to watch techniques and
be able to make those corrections. Whether
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it's an assistant coach or you as
the trainer itself, can be able to
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watch and make sure that your athletes
are executing proper technique. You see a
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consistency in that it needs that's something
that needs to be addressed, and it
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also helps that they're filming practices.
You can go back and look at those
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things and be able to work on
some of those mechanics, pointing out to
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the coach, maybe have the coach
pointed out during film session. So exercise
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variety, So training should have three
different components. You should have pliometrics built
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in, neuromuscular training from balance and
then strength training with it. So your
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three components, you have pliometrics,
the keys focusing on proper technique and mechanics.
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So plyometrics should be incorporated at least
once a week into a training program,
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depending on what texts you read.
If you go through your CSCs certifications,
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tells you that you can incorporate pliometrics
at least twice a week if they're
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properly spaced out given the amount of
time, whether you're in season or off
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season. That's going to also dictate
how much you can actually work in pliometrics.
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So probably if you're in season,
you're only going to want to do
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it once a week. It's probably
going to be a little bit less intensity
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than what you would do during an
off season program. So those are things
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that you need to think about.
So your neuromuscular training, so improve the
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athletes ability to generate optimal muscle firing
patterns, improve a roll movement patterns,
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increase dynamic joint mobility, improve postural
control and lateral motion stability. So that's
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your overall objectives when you do this. So this is going to include some
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of your balance exercises, appropriate acceptive
training for balance. You could do wobble
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boards in that type of thing,
it's really best to be able to just
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do it on flat foots. I'm
not a huge fan of unlevel surfaces to
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work on those types of things.
It's better if you can do something simple
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as star pattern type movements with body
weight in order to be able to work
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on those mechanics. But a lot
of it also is going to come back
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to making sure that they're doing proper
core engagement and glute engagement and those things
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that they're actually doing all the proper
mechanics just to maintain balance. If somebody's
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able to do a single leg stance
and they can't stand on one leg and
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hold it, if you look at
that, see where the instability is coming
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out of. Is it coming out
of the knee, is it coming out
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of the angles, it coming out
of the hip, It's a core problem,
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or is a combination of those things? And then design your exercises to
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address those individual problems so that it
will address the balance overall. So then
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you have strength training, which can
include muscle specific retraining or overall power generating
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lifts. I'm not a huge fan
of overhead type lifts, power lifts,
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Olympic type lifting for especially high school
programs. I know that I've made some
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high school strength and conditioning coaches upset
with me by making that statement before,
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But having been in multiple high school
programs, and the minute that they start
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incorporating overhead specific lifts, now you're
going to have athletes with developing shoulder problems
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and those types of things because they
don't execute it right. If you can't
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get them to execute proper mechanics on
basic movement patterns that they need to do
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to be able to execute their sport. Why would you have them do something
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that is going to require even more
mechanics and focus and specificity and the way
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they lift rather than keeping general lift
movement patterns. So that's just my soapbox
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on that. So your training progression, all training programs should be organized into
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tiers and progressions that range from mildly
difficult to challenging. So you're going to
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start with a tier one and should
build into more complicated versions of the same
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mechanisms based on the target and muscle
group. Training progression should also reflect on
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ongoing assessment to determine readiness for tier
transition. So you need to be able
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to make sure that you're assessing.
So if you come up with your first
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tier level of exercises that you're going
to do, you need to make a
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determination or whether they're ready to move
to the next step or if you have
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some that are ready to move on
and others or not. You've got to
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have the flexibility in there to be
able to allow the ones that are ready
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to progress allow them to continue to
progress, and in some cases you may
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need you may have to have regressions. Somebody gets up to a certain level
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and then they can't seem to maintain
proper mechanics. You go back down.
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It's okay to take a step back
if you need to in order to be
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able to retrain and continue to build
back up again. And so you may
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know this as a remedial phase for
transitioning to the full training program. If
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somebody needs remediation, it is better
to get them down and the proper mechanics
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and proper strength levels to be able
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to the show. So that brings
me to the end. Thank you so
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much, Dr McAllister. We have
a few questions that have come in.
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So one of the questions was related
to you mentioned that when the ACL is
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replaced with dabbing daver ligament that oftentimes
that makes it a little bit tighter.
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So how would you suggest what type
of rehab or what things would you take
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in consideration when you're doing rehab for
a patient that has received cadaver versus those
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that have just had a simple repair. So the couple things that you have
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to factor into that when you're rehabbing
somebody with that is one, you got
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to make sure that you don't tear
the graph, So you've got to allow
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it to have time to set in. So you want to do a lot
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of passive range of motion, not
active, and then start building up the
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musculator around the knee. The musculator
is going to be weak, so I
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always recommend a lot of isometric type
exercises start working around that knee, and
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then once the orthopedies that you've worked
with, they will give you the time
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frame that it usually takes for that
ACL to set so that you retear it.
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I can't tell you how many times
that I've seen people go to their
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rehab and a matter of fact,
I had a neighbor that he had to
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shoulder repair went to rehab and they
tore his shoulder back. So I would
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think that you need to go It's
better to go conservative at first. You
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want to obviously instill as much motion
and you can get as much passive motion,
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even bike type movements that type of
thing, and then as that that
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graft is set, then you could
be a little bit more aggressive on stretching
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that out. Then a lot of
that's just going to come from strengthening.
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So you want to progress from on
your isometrics to your eccentric type contraction movements,
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then you can progress your concentric which
is going to allow you to be
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able to get more flexibility in that
need. Absolutely, thank you. Do
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you have any advice or guidance on
specific prehab that you would do with winter
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sports athletes such as downhill skiers and
those that are on the slopes a lot,
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so you get a lot of acl
injuries obviously when it comes to skis
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and snowboards where your feed are kind
of locked into position. Is there anything
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that you would suggest specific things to
look for and to assess in the preseason
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before they started. Yeah, that's
the the thing with a lot of your
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snow skiing, because there is more
of a predisposition for the needs to go
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into a bogus position, So that's
going to take a little bit of retraining
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that's going to have to be done
to get them to where they can still
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be able to ski, be able
to execute their maneuvers and not allow that
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need to collapse. Because if you
watch a lot of your downhill skiers,
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especially during the Olympics, as soon
as they hit that reduration, look at
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that extent the outside leg on their
turn. If you start seeing that knee
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drop in, They've got to work
on their lateral strength development. So really
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a lot of that where that would
be concerned is more focused on your strength
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development and more concentration. I'm keeping
those knees pushed out more so that they
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don't allow that. Snow skiing is
one of those I've done it. Fortunately
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I managed to do it without actually
had to learn how to do it when
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I was in the military, which
was interesting enough. But this is the
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level of force that's actually applied.
Because you're going to much faster speeds.
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Strength development is going to be a
whole lot more focus for me if I'm
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going to work with somebody on that
to be able to pushed and keeping that
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lateral strength, also making sure that
you are looking at their glute and glue
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mead so they may need to do
more monster walk type of things. Keep
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the pureiformists loose, because what tends
to happen after time is that as the
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glue, you get that quat dominance
and then the glute I mean, because
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you think better constantly got those quas
contracted, they're in a been over position,
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been over exaggerated athletic position. Eventually
those glutes continue to weaken. Well,
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what happens in is your entrance that
muscles it up underneath, like your
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puiformists, and all those start to
take the brunt and then you'll get glue
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mead weakness on top of it.
So they're going to have to really focus
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on keeping those strong during their strength
development to be able to help with that
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wonderful we've talked a lot about in
the past, and it's kind of made
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a lot of headlines, especially in
the public community about fear avoidance behaviors.
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Fear avoidance behaviors. So essentially,
athlete tears one acel, and as you
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mentioned, the research supports that they
are more susceptible to tearing the other acel.
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But yeah, you as aquatitioner are
faced in a situation where you want
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to try to help them rehab post
surgery, but then also strengthen the other
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aco, how would you come back
to some of that fear avoidance behavior and
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an athlete that's already had that tear
once. That's the first part of the
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question. The second part is do
you feel that fear avoidance can be a
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contributing factor to re injury? Yes, it will, just because they tend
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to be more timid, they're going
to exaggerate, They're going to tend to
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put That's where you're going to see
a lot more to that lateral displacement that
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we talked about, just even something
as simple as a squad pattern. That's
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what I refer to as the neuromuscular
rehabilitation. You've got to get them,
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make them aware that they're doing that
shift. There's always that tendency that they
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have to gain confidence in it.
So you want to build them up.
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You have to kind of assess where
they're at. Sometimes when I coach powerlifting,
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when I'm working with an athlete,
it's not always necessarily looking at where
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they're at, but where their potential
is. And so you have to allow
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them to be able to build the
confidence up and by slowly working them back
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up and letting them be able to
feel it and know that it's going to
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be stable and it's not going to
give out on them. So there's a
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progression that has to take place and
allow them to build that confidence. And
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as they continue to build that confidence
and realize that, Okay, I'm not
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necessarily going to hurt this now,
they're going to build confidence just by knowing
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that their movements are stronger if they
are aware of what the mechanics were that
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caused it to happen the first time, so that they can be able to
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focus and not do those patterns again
and work out of that so it can
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develop. But you're going to have
to really educate them along the way and
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allow them to be able to develop
that confidence and work of and not necessarily
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rush them. I feel like sometimes
athletes are rushed way too fast before they
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even have a chance to even get
the proper strength of mechanics. Now I'm
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trying to get back into play.
So it can be done, but you're
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going to have it's going to require
a lot more patient and it's going to
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require a lot more analysis on your
part seeing when they're ready to go,
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but also being able to just show
them what they're doing in those patterns and
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get them focused on correcting that and
then once they get more confident and that,
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then their confidence overall will increase.
Yeah. Absolutely. Another question here
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was regarding assessing kind of return to
play in this situation where you have a
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patient who has gone through surgery to
repair, how do you assess them in
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terms of their readiness and their ability
to return the point so as based on
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where they need to be for the
level that they're at. So obviously you
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know, like I said, when
you start them off, and you start
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somebody off, it's going to be
more passive isometric, and so you have
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to determine, Okay, they seem
to be responding, well, there's no
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pain, we're not having a problems
with isometric movement patterns anymore. We've been
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able to progress the full range of
motion at this point. Now where you
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going to start doing some more eccentric
type movement patterns once they it stronger with
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that and there's no knee pain associated
with that, and then you can progress
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it to your concentric pattern. Start
off with the lighter weights and then start
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building up and strengthening from there.
Once you get it stronger, then I
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would start progressing into more sports specific
type movement patterns to start working on movement
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mechanics, Start them slow, allow
them to be able to get the because
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they're having to get a feel for
their legs are not going to feel the
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same like they did before and so
and then you're also having to what was
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reference in the last question, You're
going to have to work through some of
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that hesitancy and some of that subconsciousness
that they have a fear of reinjuring.
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And so it's just it was going
to require a constant assessment throughout the process
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to be able to determine that they're
really ready to go. A lot of
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times people will try to focus more
on readiness based on time rather than performance.
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So I would shift your focus to
more performance and less on time to
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determine whether somebody's ready or not.
Wonderful, thank you. Is repair or
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reconstruction good better for acl injury to
receive better outcomes? And what does the
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research say in regards to repair versus
a reconstruction? And I know that might
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be subjective based upon each individual case
or circumstance. Yeah, it depends on
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what they're wanting to do. I
mean, if they're in a sport that
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requires them to do a lot of
cutting maneuvers that they need an ACL to
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be able to do that, and
you can brace. There's certain sports that
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allow you to be able to brace, especially if somebody does have that fear
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going to allow them to brace,
and it may not necessarily be necessary for
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them to have a brace on that
knee, but if it gives them that
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extra confidence, then allow them to
do that. You'll see both of orsopetas
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will recommend though, if you're not
going to play anymore, if you're retiring
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from your sport, but you still
want to stay active, you can still
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be active as long as you're not
trying to cut and do those hard type,
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redirecting type movements. If you're going
to do those types of things,
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then it's better to get it redone
so that you can continue to do that.
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You're just you're just going to have
to know that once you get cut,
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that you're going to be dealing with
other issues later on down the road.
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Eventually you're going to have plaque that
builds up, scar tissue that builds
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up in that knee, and that
may have to be dealt with later.
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There's no easy solution there, but
it really kind of depends on what the
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goal of the athlete is absolutely.
Would you suggest any type of sports psychology
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or some adjunctive therapy that deals with
progressing pain and pain psychology. Yeah,
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absolutely, Any good sport program from
the college level up is going to have
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a sports psychologist, and you definitely
need to co manage with that. Talk
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to the psychologists, collaborate, let
them know what you're seeing, let them
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know what you're seeing, what their
tendencies are, and then they can talk
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to the athlete and figure out what
their what their concerns are, and their
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fears are. Yeah, that's that's
absolutely a necessity. I mean, especially
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when you're dealing with athletes that need
to be able to perform at a high
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level consistency. There's a lot of
stress that goes on all with that mentally,
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and you'll see it in the way
some athletes end up in the news.
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They handle their success or they handle
the stress of their role better than
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others. And so yeah, absolutely
you need the psychologists to be able to
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help with that. Absolutely. So
we've talked in the past about how hormone
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fluctuations at different times of the month
can affect things like ligament laxity. How
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do you take that into consideration when
it comes to the precab or the recab
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work and do it female athletes that
are dealing with eclog us. So,
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and it's funny because I actually the
majority of the athletes that I coach right
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now or female, I've kind of
transitioned over that. In all honesty,
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it's I've actually enjoyed coaching female athletes
more than I have males at this point
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because they tend to listen better.
But there's always that ongoing issue you'll see
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when they have those times that you're
also going to see that they're going to
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be weaker during those hormone fluctuations.
They're also going to be at increased risk.
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And so that's when it's really going
to be imperative for those athletes to
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be more focused on technique and their
strength development and being able to rely on
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those things to be able to execute
because with the joint laxity, they're going
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to have to get more comfortable with
that dynamic and know that they may have
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to be a little bit more reserved
in their movement patterns to be able to
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compensate for that because of the joint
laxity that can exist. So and then
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a lot of that. It's also
coaches don't want to hear about that stuff.
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They really should, but they don't
want to hear about that. All
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they care about is that their player
can get in there and play or not.
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So that's unfortunately, that's kind of
a no win situation with that,
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because I would recommend that certain athletes, if they're going, you would have
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to kind of gauge how they react
during there and how their bodies processed during
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that time. And if somebody has
severe reaction and their joints seem to have
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a lot more laxity, you can
get in there and assess during that time
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to be able to see where their
level of acts that he is and some
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of them it's just it may just
be better that they don't play during that
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time. Absolutely, So, someone
was asking, essentially, given your experience
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kind of working as part of a
helping your team with these athletes, how
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are coaches responsive to some of your
advice that you How have you found that
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some of them were resistant than others. How do you usually broke swoose topics
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with coaches that, as you mentioned, sometimes they're not concerned with certain things
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that you know are very much a
priority for that with coaches, and I've
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been on both sides of that,
both sides of that table, and it's
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tough. I mean mean, you've
got coaches that absolutely just don't want to
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listen. They're actually putting themselves at
risk and liability by not and that would
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be It also depends on if you're
the trainer or are you the medical provider
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for the team, or are you
part of the overall medical team, depending
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on what level you're at. Because
with the high school will I work in
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conjunction with the trainer. There,
with the pro teams that I've worked with,
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you have the trainer that kind of
acts as a filter. But I've
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always been successful in developing a good
working relationship with the Modican team as a
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whole. As far as the coaches
are concerned, they've got to have a
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confidence that you know what you're doing
that because they just look at it as
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is you're keeping my player, keeping
me from winning games because you're keeping my
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player off the court. They have
to understand the liability and sometimes it requires
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a little bit of extra education for
the coach, especially if they're a young
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coach and don't know any better your
older coaches. I tend to find that
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they don't resist it as much because
they know the benefit that if they allow
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their player to heal up, they're
going to be a better, more benefit
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to them a little bit later on
if they'll just be patient. It's your
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younger coaches that tend to be more
impatient and they don't want to listen.
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They just want their player out there, and so they require a little bit
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more education, a little bit more
patience on your part, and also just
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talking to the athlete, because really
it's the athlete that gets caught in the
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middle of that. They know that
they need to be able to get in
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there and play. They're concerned about
their keeping their position, and sometimes it
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may require the athlete being able to
tell the coach say, look, I'm
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almost there, but please, I've
got to get healed up so I can
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get out there and play better.
And sometimes it may take a joint effort
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of the player, the coach,
and the trainer to get in there and
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have that conversation so that they can
get that player ready to go. That's
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one of those I haven't had that
much of a problem too too much with
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getting coaches to listen. I think
I feel like they've gotten better about it.
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But it depends also what lovel high
school coaches they're ten to tend to
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not listen as well as your college
or your pro coaches. And so you
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know, again, if you want
coaches that are gonna listen better, you
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probably need to move up the chain
a little bit and get out of high
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school or middle school. So doctor
McAllister, thank you so much for joining
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us today and presenting such great information. Thank you for having me. I
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really appreciate it. All right,
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The the the the between between the
Hi, guys, Welcome to The Factor
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podcast. I'm your host, Jessica
Riddle. If this is your first time
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tuning in, welcome and thanks for
listening. In today's episode, we're wrapping
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up the final segment of this two
part series with doctor Davis McAllister on creating
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a prehabilitation program. In part one, we discussed how using this proactive approach
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to prepare for activity can decrease the
chances of serious injury and optimize performance.
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Today, we'll discuss this evidence based
components that every prehab program should have.
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We'll dive into the research surrounding ACL
injury as well as the application of force
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and movement as it relates to injury
prevention. Our instructor is doctor Davis McAllister,
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a clinic faculty doctor for the Parker
University Dallas Wellness Clinic and a chiropractor
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that is served as a team doctor
for several sports teams from the amateurs to
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the pros. Prior to his career
in chiropractic, doctor McCallister served in military
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intelligence for the US Army. He
holds a bachelor's degree in anatomy, a
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master's degree in educational leadership and has
certifications in adaptive rehabilitation and acupuncture, amongst
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others. His specialties include chiropractic treatment
for sports related injuries, rehabilitation, taping,
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and soft tissue. So if you
aren't currently doing any prehab programming with
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your patients, I would listen closely
and take notes. I can guarantee this
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training will teach you strategies you can
implement in practice right away. Let's dive
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in so functional assessment. This a
by no, means a comprehensive list of
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all the possibilities that you can do
for a functional assessment. These are the
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things that I typically use when I
go through an assess somebody for an ac
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L injury risk as well as other
things that's looking for a lot of other
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things as well, but focusing on
aco risk. These are the main ones
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that I pull the information from.
So there's a list here that you can
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see. These are possibilities that you
can do when I go out and I
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go assess a team. These are
the majority of the tests that I will
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do. These on them. So
with backsquat, back squats key component of
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functional assessments. So you have the
functional movement screen or FMS, you have
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certain elements of the squat that allow
for assessments for deficiencies that lead to ACL
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risk. So we talked about lateral
displacement. Those are some of the things
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you also look for, anterior drift
knee collapse. You'll typically see the knee
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collapse more on going up out of
the squat position than you do going down,
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So those are things that need to
be addressed. Trump position deficits reflecting
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adequate core strength, which we already
talked about, and that will translate to
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deficits into hip mobility and asymmetrical positioning. Hip position definits relate to asymmetrical wayshifts
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and build the lateral and frontal plane. Then your frontal plane knee alignment deficits
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may present as valgus or various shifts
of the need due to poor neuromuscular control
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and function. On rare occasions,
you may see people that will have a
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valgus shift on one side and then
a various shift on the other, which
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means it just looks like their knees
are going like this when they've bend,
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and so those are things that you
need to go through and correct. So
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frontal plane knee alignment deficits may present
as valgus or varius due to poor neuromuscular
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control and function, so it could
also be a lack of strength in the
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lower extremity. That's probably one of
the hardest things to get high school athletes
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to understand, especially the non football
male players, and then just female players.
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The majority of female programs that I've
seen, they are very very lacking
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and their strengthened and conditioning programs,
in particular on the strength side. They
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don't like to lift weights a lot, and I understand the need to be
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able to do more functional lifting,
but at some point we've got to be
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able to increase the weights. I
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variety of programs. Both of my
daughters play volleyball, and I've seen the
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program that they put them through,
and they lift the same weight every time
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they go in, whether it's in
season or off season, and they never
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increase and there's no strength development at
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the backspat nieve valgus when the medial
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decreased hip abductor and external rotation strength, increased hip adductor and ankle dorseflection restriction,
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about with flat feet, the ankles
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at ank orseflection and determine if that's
being a contributing factor for the lack of
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mobility and poor mechanics. Also,
during squat tibial translation angles, it should
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be maintained and parallel to properly positioned
upright trunk deficit will be excessive restricted translation.
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increases sheer forces and knee extends or
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torque. This can be the result
of post to your chain weakness in particular
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weak astroc solius, wee camstrings,
weak blots, quad dominance, all those
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things that we've already talked about.
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anterior torso translation. So as they
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start to drift forward more and more
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where it goes out front. Because
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as the folding chair. They think
they're going deeper because the arupper body is
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going down, not the lower body, and they're not even properly engaging the
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muscles and get a proper range of
motion in their squad with a lower body.
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of ankle restriction from posterior talus translation,
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decreased hip mobility or decreased foot mobility. You'll see some of them that
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they get a posterior restriction and the
ankles and that will inhibit dors deflection and
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so on the car practice side.
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bring that talus back into the proper
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able to help increase that dorsy flection. Then it's a matter of also strengthening
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the ankle to be able to prevent
that from being a recurring problem. Foot
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position and entirely planned it on the
ground during the entire emotion, so you
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don't want to see heels coming up. Weight should be distributed over the midfoot
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to the heel and then the biomechanical
foot deficiencies translate up to the kneast and
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hips, so it just starts at
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Why balance test or star excursion balance
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but they're not exactly the same.
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we actually have the sliding blocks and
so forth that we measure with and instead,
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a composite score of less than ninety
four percent lower limb results in a
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six to point five times greater increased
risk for lower extreamting injury, and a
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female athlete anterior reach asymmetry of greater
than four centimeters results in two points seven
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times increased risk in all high school
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Another study on D three football players
showed a three point five percent higher risk
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of non contact injury with a composite
score of less than eighty nine point six
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percent. And so when you go
through and do the score, there's a
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composite score that you develop based on
the formula that incorporates lend length and distances
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that they can reach in multiple directions, and then you put that into a
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composite score and you get a percentage
of efficiency within each side and the lower
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limb. The drop jump screening test
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by measuring knee separation during three separate
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jumps from a boss. It helps
if you do have video imaging if at
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all possible to do this, you
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if you're having to do large numbers
of people. It helps to have that
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imaging to be able to go through
and view that. Most studies were related
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to the use of newer muscular training
programs to improve knee alignment, particularly in
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basketball and volleyball players. Currently,
there's no research to support using this test
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as it means of predicting injury risk. So I mean this is something that
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can be used, but it's going
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going to be able to stand the
loan to be able to assess injury.
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You're going to have to combine it
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one component that you could use to
help with comparing information that you found from
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other tests. So the usefulness of
this test is related more to asymmetry during
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landing and kneevalgus, and it can
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So your tuck jump assessment, your
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You'll see this commonly used with pts
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going to assess ten aspects of the
jump and only texts about ten seconds to
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perform, so it's pretty efficient and
you have a couple of minutes to score
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while visually recording the test from a
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a box Like the lists, the
LS and the drop jump test. It's
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highly recommended that the same clinician should
administer so that way you're not running the
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risk of inter rate or reliability issues
of the same per doing the assessment each
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time. So if you're going to
do a pre ni POST, this ideal
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that the same person do both the
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have multiple people within the team,
then it should be the same person into
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administering that particular test each time for
consistency, so you're landing error scoring system.
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This is the less test similar to
the drop jump screening test. The
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exception is that it's recorded from the
front and sidgital plane. Testimants jump from
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a thirty centimeter box to the point
of it equillan to fifty percent of their
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height away from the box, so
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fifty percent of that and measure that
line out to the front of the box.
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And it's followed by a maximal vertibal
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technique in ten landing errors during four
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less knee and hip fletch and angle, so less knee valgus and hip adduction,
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increased internal knee and hip internal rotation
with interatibual sheer forces, and it
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was established as a reliable assessment with
recurrent THELID. It's a high value test.
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Research shows that the optimal cut point
for aco injury predictability was five point
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one seven through study of eight hundred
and twenty nine YUS. That's a pretty
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good number for a study to be
able to support evidence. The same study
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showed that those that had a less
score of five or more were at a
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ten point seven greater risk ratio for
injury is compared to those who scored less
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than five. The single leg motion
analysis this is basically a sidestep cutting maneuver
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that you go through an assess is
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assessment. One of three primary techniques, with the others being the crossover cut
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and the split step or the other
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generates higher degrees of knee valgus and
internal rotation movements key stressors to the ACL
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with high degree of test retest liability. One of the main things that I'm
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going to look for on this test
is the over extension not being able to
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not having proper weight distribution core controlled
during the course of that movement to be
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able to maintain and control momentum,
especially if it has to be a quick
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stop start type situation. So tests
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eighty percent had greater than are equal
to five degrees of knee valgus on the
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plant foot, with sixty percent showing
an increased augus on the uninvolved leg.
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So that's that's something that really needs
to be looked at closely. So things
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that you need to consider when you're
doing this assessments. Forces generated during non
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competition are not as great as during
so it's really hard to replicate competition level
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forces and so, but if somebody
is already showing signs of lack of control
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over extension, excessive knee valgus internal
rotation, that type of thing during this
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simple test, then it's going to
be exaggerated more when they're out there actually
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competing. So there is some value
of that. Plan versus unplanned movement,
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So redirecting having a plant cut,
if you're trying to avoid somebody, how
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do you deal with that? Let's
see fatigue versus non fatigued Sharper angles generate
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greater own forces. Things to consider
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competition are not as great, which
we just talked about. Plan versus unplanned
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movement. Fatigue Sharper angles generate greater
ground forces approach velocity, so velocities are
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typically higher in competition. Visual disturbance
or dual cognitions such as as with a
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ball and interacting with other individuals,
will generate higher ground forces or make slow
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reaction times. So when they're having
multiple things like dribbling a ball, that
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type of stuff that's drawing more on
the brain and it's going to affect their
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ability to be able to properly react, to be able to focus on proper
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movement mechanics. So the time based
tasks may provide greater simulation of effort,
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that type of stuff for a redirection that
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you can kind of get a decent
idea. When they're trying to do it
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as fast as they possibly can,
you may be able to get a little
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bit better assessment with increased effort.
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program. So after a value to
several research papers, they prove the need
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and validity of prevention programs for ACL
risk. Females have a risk reduction of
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fifty two percent and males have a
risk reduction of eighty five percent for a
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non contact ACL injury. So there's
some high validity for having an ACO injury
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prevention program within an athletic program.
So six principles that you need to consider.
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H Okay, the earlier that you
start working on these mechanics, the
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better studies are showing that introduction of
a CEO programs and younger athletes are more
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effective than older athletes. It's one
of those things that's better to take somebody
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that doesn't know any better and train
them up from the get go, rather
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than trying to take somebody who's already
developed bad mechanical habits and trying to get
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them to change them. It's it's
a whole lot better if you can start
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with youth programs and be able to
work them up that way, and while
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you're trying to work on the ones
that are older or trying to undo their
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bad habits. So biomechanics, there's
a need for assessing addressing different movement patterns
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that involve an increased possibility for increased
need. VALGUS clients is a huge deal.
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So compliance rates greater than sixty six
percent have shown a rate reduction of
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a CEO A injury by eighty two
percent. So basically, if they follow
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the program, it's going to work. If they don't follow the program like
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they're supposed to, you're gonna it's
not going to be as effective as it
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needs to. Okay, So number
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of studies has shown that a session
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three to four times per week.
The program should be initiated during preseason conditioning
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and maintain throughout the season in the
off season. So it's this is one
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of those deals that people look at
this while I don't have twenty to thirty
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minutes to just focus on aco injury
prevention type programs in my athletic program,
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it's because you need to take it
and incorporate it with the other things that
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you're doing. You have your different
phases, so you have your immediate postseason,
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you have your preseason workouts, and
then you go into your end season.
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Those are all different components, but
these are things that you can incorporate
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and work into your program to be
able to assess and to be able to
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work and train so that you can
decrease that risk of injury. Feedback there
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should be a combination of visual and
verbal feedback with verbal correction que from the
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coach trainer, and visual in some
form of video or training film. This
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is where as a practitioner, you
can be able to come in and be
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able to make observation because coaches,
when think about a basketball coach, but
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basketball coaches out there watching, they're
watching to see if their players are executing
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proper alignment, if they're going into
proper formation, if they're setting their screens
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properly, those types of things.
They're not paying attention necessarily to the technique
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of what's going on. So you
need to have somebody specifically assigned for that
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to be able to watch techniques and
be able to make those corrections. Whether
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it's an assistant coach or you as
the trainer itself, can be able to
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watch and make sure that your athletes
are executing proper technique. You see a
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consistency in that it needs that's something
that needs to be addressed, and it
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also helps that they're filming practices.
You can go back and look at those
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things and be able to work on
some of those mechanics, pointing out to
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the coach, maybe have the coach
pointed out during film session. So exercise
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variety, So training should have three
different components. You should have pliometrics built
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in, neuromuscular training from balance and
then strength training with it. So your
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three components, you have pliometrics,
the keys focusing on proper technique and mechanics.
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So plyometrics should be incorporated at least
once a week into a training program,
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depending on what texts you read.
If you go through your CSCs certifications,
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tells you that you can incorporate pliometrics
at least twice a week if they're
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properly spaced out given the amount of
time, whether you're in season or off
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season. That's going to also dictate
how much you can actually work in pliometrics.
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So probably if you're in season,
you're only going to want to do
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it once a week. It's probably
going to be a little bit less intensity
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than what you would do during an
off season program. So those are things
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that you need to think about.
So your neuromuscular training, so improve the
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athletes ability to generate optimal muscle firing
patterns, improve a roll movement patterns,
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increase dynamic joint mobility, improve postural
control and lateral motion stability. So that's
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your overall objectives when you do this. So this is going to include some
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of your balance exercises, appropriate acceptive
training for balance. You could do wobble
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boards in that type of thing,
it's really best to be able to just
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do it on flat foots. I'm
not a huge fan of unlevel surfaces to
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work on those types of things.
It's better if you can do something simple
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as star pattern type movements with body
weight in order to be able to work
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on those mechanics. But a lot
of it also is going to come back
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to making sure that they're doing proper
core engagement and glute engagement and those things
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that they're actually doing all the proper
mechanics just to maintain balance. If somebody's
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able to do a single leg stance
and they can't stand on one leg and
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hold it, if you look at
that, see where the instability is coming
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out of. Is it coming out
of the knee, is it coming out
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of the angles, it coming out
of the hip, It's a core problem,
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or is a combination of those things? And then design your exercises to
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address those individual problems so that it
will address the balance overall. So then
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you have strength training, which can
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lifts. I'm not a huge fan
of overhead type lifts, power lifts,
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Olympic type lifting for especially high school
programs. I know that I've made some
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high school strength and conditioning coaches upset
with me by making that statement before,
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But having been in multiple high school
programs, and the minute that they start
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incorporating overhead specific lifts, now you're
going to have athletes with developing shoulder problems
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and those types of things because they
don't execute it right. If you can't
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get them to execute proper mechanics on
basic movement patterns that they need to do
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to be able to execute their sport. Why would you have them do something
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that is going to require even more
mechanics and focus and specificity and the way
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they lift rather than keeping general lift
movement patterns. So that's just my soapbox
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on that. So your training progression, all training programs should be organized into
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tiers and progressions that range from mildly
difficult to challenging. So you're going to
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start with a tier one and should
build into more complicated versions of the same
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mechanisms based on the target and muscle
group. Training progression should also reflect on
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ongoing assessment to determine readiness for tier
transition. So you need to be able
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to make sure that you're assessing.
So if you come up with your first
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tier level of exercises that you're going
to do, you need to make a
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determination or whether they're ready to move
to the next step or if you have
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some that are ready to move on
and others or not. You've got to
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have the flexibility in there to be
able to allow the ones that are ready
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to progress allow them to continue to
progress, and in some cases you may
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need you may have to have regressions. Somebody gets up to a certain level
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and then they can't seem to maintain
proper mechanics. You go back down.
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It's okay to take a step back
if you need to in order to be
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able to retrain and continue to build
back up again. And so you may
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know this as a remedial phase for
transitioning to the full training program. If
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somebody needs remediation, it is better
to get them down and the proper mechanics
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and proper strength levels to be able
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to the show. So that brings
me to the end. Thank you so
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much, Dr McAllister. We have
a few questions that have come in.
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So one of the questions was related
to you mentioned that when the ACL is
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replaced with dabbing daver ligament that oftentimes
that makes it a little bit tighter.
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So how would you suggest what type
of rehab or what things would you take
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in consideration when you're doing rehab for
a patient that has received cadaver versus those
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that have just had a simple repair. So the couple things that you have
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to factor into that when you're rehabbing
somebody with that is one, you got
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to make sure that you don't tear
the graph, So you've got to allow
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it to have time to set in. So you want to do a lot
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of passive range of motion, not
active, and then start building up the
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musculator around the knee. The musculator
is going to be weak, so I
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always recommend a lot of isometric type
exercises start working around that knee, and
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then once the orthopedies that you've worked
with, they will give you the time
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frame that it usually takes for that
ACL to set so that you retear it.
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I can't tell you how many times
that I've seen people go to their
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rehab and a matter of fact,
I had a neighbor that he had to
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shoulder repair went to rehab and they
tore his shoulder back. So I would
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think that you need to go It's
better to go conservative at first. You
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want to obviously instill as much motion
and you can get as much passive motion,
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even bike type movements that type of
thing, and then as that that
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graft is set, then you could
be a little bit more aggressive on stretching
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that out. Then a lot of
that's just going to come from strengthening.
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So you want to progress from on
your isometrics to your eccentric type contraction movements,
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then you can progress your concentric which
is going to allow you to be
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able to get more flexibility in that
need. Absolutely, thank you. Do
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you have any advice or guidance on
specific prehab that you would do with winter
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sports athletes such as downhill skiers and
those that are on the slopes a lot,
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so you get a lot of acl
injuries obviously when it comes to skis
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and snowboards where your feed are kind
of locked into position. Is there anything
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that you would suggest specific things to
look for and to assess in the preseason
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before they started. Yeah, that's
the the thing with a lot of your
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snow skiing, because there is more
of a predisposition for the needs to go
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into a bogus position, So that's
going to take a little bit of retraining
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that's going to have to be done
to get them to where they can still
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be able to ski, be able
to execute their maneuvers and not allow that
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need to collapse. Because if you
watch a lot of your downhill skiers,
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especially during the Olympics, as soon
as they hit that reduration, look at
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that extent the outside leg on their
turn. If you start seeing that knee
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drop in, They've got to work
on their lateral strength development. So really
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a lot of that where that would
be concerned is more focused on your strength
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development and more concentration. I'm keeping
those knees pushed out more so that they
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don't allow that. Snow skiing is
one of those I've done it. Fortunately
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I managed to do it without actually
had to learn how to do it when
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I was in the military, which
was interesting enough. But this is the
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level of force that's actually applied.
Because you're going to much faster speeds.
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Strength development is going to be a
whole lot more focus for me if I'm
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going to work with somebody on that
to be able to pushed and keeping that
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lateral strength, also making sure that
you are looking at their glute and glue
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mead so they may need to do
more monster walk type of things. Keep
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the pureiformists loose, because what tends
to happen after time is that as the
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glue, you get that quat dominance
and then the glute I mean, because
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you think better constantly got those quas
contracted, they're in a been over position,
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been over exaggerated athletic position. Eventually
those glutes continue to weaken. Well,
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what happens in is your entrance that
muscles it up underneath, like your
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puiformists, and all those start to
take the brunt and then you'll get glue
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mead weakness on top of it.
So they're going to have to really focus
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on keeping those strong during their strength
development to be able to help with that
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wonderful we've talked a lot about in
the past, and it's kind of made
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a lot of headlines, especially in
the public community about fear avoidance behaviors.
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Fear avoidance behaviors. So essentially,
athlete tears one acel, and as you
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mentioned, the research supports that they
are more susceptible to tearing the other acel.
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But yeah, you as aquatitioner are
faced in a situation where you want
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to try to help them rehab post
surgery, but then also strengthen the other
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aco, how would you come back
to some of that fear avoidance behavior and
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an athlete that's already had that tear
once. That's the first part of the
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question. The second part is do
you feel that fear avoidance can be a
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contributing factor to re injury? Yes, it will, just because they tend
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to be more timid, they're going
to exaggerate, They're going to tend to
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put That's where you're going to see
a lot more to that lateral displacement that
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we talked about, just even something
as simple as a squad pattern. That's
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what I refer to as the neuromuscular
rehabilitation. You've got to get them,
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make them aware that they're doing that
shift. There's always that tendency that they
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have to gain confidence in it.
So you want to build them up.
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You have to kind of assess where
they're at. Sometimes when I coach powerlifting,
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when I'm working with an athlete,
it's not always necessarily looking at where
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they're at, but where their potential
is. And so you have to allow
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them to be able to build the
confidence up and by slowly working them back
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up and letting them be able to
feel it and know that it's going to
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be stable and it's not going to
give out on them. So there's a
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progression that has to take place and
allow them to build that confidence. And
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as they continue to build that confidence
and realize that, Okay, I'm not
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necessarily going to hurt this now,
they're going to build confidence just by knowing
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that their movements are stronger if they
are aware of what the mechanics were that
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caused it to happen the first time, so that they can be able to
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focus and not do those patterns again
and work out of that so it can
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develop. But you're going to have
to really educate them along the way and
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allow them to be able to develop
that confidence and work of and not necessarily
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rush them. I feel like sometimes
athletes are rushed way too fast before they
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even have a chance to even get
the proper strength of mechanics. Now I'm
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trying to get back into play.
So it can be done, but you're
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going to have it's going to require
a lot more patient and it's going to
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require a lot more analysis on your
part seeing when they're ready to go,
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but also being able to just show
them what they're doing in those patterns and
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get them focused on correcting that and
then once they get more confident and that,
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then their confidence overall will increase.
Yeah. Absolutely. Another question here
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was regarding assessing kind of return to
play in this situation where you have a
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patient who has gone through surgery to
repair, how do you assess them in
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terms of their readiness and their ability
to return the point so as based on
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where they need to be for the
level that they're at. So obviously you
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know, like I said, when
you start them off, and you start
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somebody off, it's going to be
more passive isometric, and so you have
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to determine, Okay, they seem
to be responding, well, there's no
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pain, we're not having a problems
with isometric movement patterns anymore. We've been
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able to progress the full range of
motion at this point. Now where you
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going to start doing some more eccentric
type movement patterns once they it stronger with
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that and there's no knee pain associated
with that, and then you can progress
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it to your concentric pattern. Start
off with the lighter weights and then start
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building up and strengthening from there.
Once you get it stronger, then I
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would start progressing into more sports specific
type movement patterns to start working on movement
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mechanics, Start them slow, allow
them to be able to get the because
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they're having to get a feel for
their legs are not going to feel the
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same like they did before and so
and then you're also having to what was
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reference in the last question, You're
going to have to work through some of
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that hesitancy and some of that subconsciousness
that they have a fear of reinjuring.
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And so it's just it was going
to require a constant assessment throughout the process
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to be able to determine that they're
really ready to go. A lot of
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times people will try to focus more
on readiness based on time rather than performance.
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So I would shift your focus to
more performance and less on time to
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determine whether somebody's ready or not.
Wonderful, thank you. Is repair or
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reconstruction good better for acl injury to
receive better outcomes? And what does the
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research say in regards to repair versus
a reconstruction? And I know that might
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be subjective based upon each individual case
or circumstance. Yeah, it depends on
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what they're wanting to do. I
mean, if they're in a sport that
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requires them to do a lot of
cutting maneuvers that they need an ACL to
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be able to do that, and
you can brace. There's certain sports that
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allow you to be able to brace, especially if somebody does have that fear
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going to allow them to brace,
and it may not necessarily be necessary for
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them to have a brace on that
knee, but if it gives them that
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extra confidence, then allow them to
do that. You'll see both of orsopetas
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will recommend though, if you're not
going to play anymore, if you're retiring
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from your sport, but you still
want to stay active, you can still
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be active as long as you're not
trying to cut and do those hard type,
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redirecting type movements. If you're going
to do those types of things,
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then it's better to get it redone
so that you can continue to do that.
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You're just you're just going to have
to know that once you get cut,
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that you're going to be dealing with
other issues later on down the road.
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Eventually you're going to have plaque that
builds up, scar tissue that builds
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up in that knee, and that
may have to be dealt with later.
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There's no easy solution there, but
it really kind of depends on what the
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goal of the athlete is absolutely.
Would you suggest any type of sports psychology
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or some adjunctive therapy that deals with
progressing pain and pain psychology. Yeah,
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absolutely, Any good sport program from
the college level up is going to have
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a sports psychologist, and you definitely
need to co manage with that. Talk
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to the psychologists, collaborate, let
them know what you're seeing, let them
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know what you're seeing, what their
tendencies are, and then they can talk
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to the athlete and figure out what
their what their concerns are, and their
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fears are. Yeah, that's that's
absolutely a necessity. I mean, especially
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when you're dealing with athletes that need
to be able to perform at a high
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level consistency. There's a lot of
stress that goes on all with that mentally,
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and you'll see it in the way
some athletes end up in the news.
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They handle their success or they handle
the stress of their role better than
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others. And so yeah, absolutely
you need the psychologists to be able to
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help with that. Absolutely. So
we've talked in the past about how hormone
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fluctuations at different times of the month
can affect things like ligament laxity. How
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do you take that into consideration when
it comes to the precab or the recab
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work and do it female athletes that
are dealing with eclog us. So,
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and it's funny because I actually the
majority of the athletes that I coach right
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now or female, I've kind of
transitioned over that. In all honesty,
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it's I've actually enjoyed coaching female athletes
more than I have males at this point
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because they tend to listen better.
But there's always that ongoing issue you'll see
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when they have those times that you're
also going to see that they're going to
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be weaker during those hormone fluctuations.
They're also going to be at increased risk.
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And so that's when it's really going
to be imperative for those athletes to
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be more focused on technique and their
strength development and being able to rely on
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those things to be able to execute
because with the joint laxity, they're going
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to have to get more comfortable with
that dynamic and know that they may have
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to be a little bit more reserved
in their movement patterns to be able to
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compensate for that because of the joint
laxity that can exist. So and then
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a lot of that. It's also
coaches don't want to hear about that stuff.
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They really should, but they don't
want to hear about that. All
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they care about is that their player
can get in there and play or not.
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So that's unfortunately, that's kind of
a no win situation with that,
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because I would recommend that certain athletes, if they're going, you would have
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to kind of gauge how they react
during there and how their bodies processed during
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that time. And if somebody has
severe reaction and their joints seem to have
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a lot more laxity, you can
get in there and assess during that time
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to be able to see where their
level of acts that he is and some
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of them it's just it may just
be better that they don't play during that
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time. Absolutely, So, someone
was asking, essentially, given your experience
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kind of working as part of a
helping your team with these athletes, how
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are coaches responsive to some of your
advice that you How have you found that
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some of them were resistant than others. How do you usually broke swoose topics
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with coaches that, as you mentioned, sometimes they're not concerned with certain things
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that you know are very much a
priority for that with coaches, and I've
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been on both sides of that,
both sides of that table, and it's
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tough. I mean mean, you've
got coaches that absolutely just don't want to
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listen. They're actually putting themselves at
risk and liability by not and that would
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be It also depends on if you're
the trainer or are you the medical provider
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for the team, or are you
part of the overall medical team, depending
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on what level you're at. Because
with the high school will I work in
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conjunction with the trainer. There,
with the pro teams that I've worked with,
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you have the trainer that kind of
acts as a filter. But I've
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always been successful in developing a good
working relationship with the Modican team as a
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whole. As far as the coaches
are concerned, they've got to have a
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confidence that you know what you're doing
that because they just look at it as
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is you're keeping my player, keeping
me from winning games because you're keeping my
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player off the court. They have
to understand the liability and sometimes it requires
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a little bit of extra education for
the coach, especially if they're a young
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coach and don't know any better your
older coaches. I tend to find that
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they don't resist it as much because
they know the benefit that if they allow
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their player to heal up, they're
going to be a better, more benefit
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to them a little bit later on
if they'll just be patient. It's your
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younger coaches that tend to be more
impatient and they don't want to listen.
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They just want their player out there, and so they require a little bit
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more education, a little bit more
patience on your part, and also just
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talking to the athlete, because really
it's the athlete that gets caught in the
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middle of that. They know that
they need to be able to get in
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there and play. They're concerned about
their keeping their position, and sometimes it
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may require the athlete being able to
tell the coach say, look, I'm
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almost there, but please, I've
got to get healed up so I can
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get out there and play better.
And sometimes it may take a joint effort
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of the player, the coach,
and the trainer to get in there and
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have that conversation so that they can
get that player ready to go. That's
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one of those I haven't had that
much of a problem too too much with
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getting coaches to listen. I think
I feel like they've gotten better about it.
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But it depends also what lovel high
school coaches they're ten to tend to
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not listen as well as your college
or your pro coaches. And so you
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know, again, if you want
coaches that are gonna listen better, you
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probably need to move up the chain
a little bit and get out of high
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school or middle school. So doctor
McAllister, thank you so much for joining
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us today and presenting such great information. Thank you for having me. I
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really appreciate it. All right,
guys, that is it for today.
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