The Impact of Recent Fires in Los Angeles on Health - Episode 279

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Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden Longevity Podcast.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Jeffrey Gladden.

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And as always, we're here to answer big questions.

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How good can we be?

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How do we make 100 to the new 30?

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How do we live well beyond 120?

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How do we live young for a lifetime?

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And how do we develop a 300 year old mind?

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And today I'm going to be talking with Autumn Calabrese.

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Autumn is a client of ours and

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She's also going to be joining me as a co-host on a number of podcasts that we do.

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She's a very interesting woman who basically has a dance background, got into nutrition,
fitness, hormone certifications, gut certifications, all related to her own health

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journey, if you will.

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She's worked for Beachbody and has been their number one super trainer.

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for some time now, actually, and she's developed a number of fitness and nutrition
programs for them that have been very helpful to many people.

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She's also been on the E network.

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She's been part of TV shows.

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She's done a lot of different things.

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She lives in Los Angeles, and she's going to be coming on today to talk with us a little
bit about the fires in L.A.

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and the impact that it's having on the city and the health of people around.

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her and also herself and her family.

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I think you're going to enjoy Autumn's perspective.

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She's very straightforward, very direct, and yet has a really big heart, really
compassionate individual.

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And I think you're really going to enjoy this show.

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And I think you'll enjoy having Autumn on this show.

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And she'll be joining me in other shows as well.

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Not every single one, but certainly a number.

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And that'll be fun.

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enjoy the...

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Enjoy the conversation.

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Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden Longevity Podcast.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Jeffrey Gladden, and I'm here with my new co-host, Autumn Calabresi.

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Autumn, great to have you here.

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How you doing?

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Hi Dr.

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Gladden, I'm doing great and it's so great to be here with you.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So I don't know if the audience knows, but you live in Los Angeles and you've been working
with the Beachbody company for quite some time.

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When do you, in your own words, give people a little bit of an idea of kind of your
relationship to health and fitness, just so they have a little feel for that?

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Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've grown up always interested in health and wellness and
fitness.

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I was a competitive dancer growing up.

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And so even in the dance world, I was really blessed to have teachers that talked about
proper nutrition to fool our bodies, which I know not everybody was always blessed with.

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And there's a lot that comes in the dance community with.

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you think about dancers, you think a lot about actually eating disorders almost, right?

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I mean, I don't know what kind of what kind of dance were you doing?

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Was it ballet or or?

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every jazz, ballet, tap, modern, but my strong suit was jazz.

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But I definitely was in ballet classes as well.

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yeah, yeah, exactly.

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When you think of dance and competitive dance or professional dancers, you do think about
the fact that that community tends to struggle with disordered eating quite a bit.

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And I was really lucky to have teachers that spoke of proper nutrition.

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all the time, but I also grew up with an Italian dad who had Italian restaurants eating
Italian food and pizza and pasta and subs.

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So I feel like I was always trying to learn about taking care of my body.

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And I went on to major in dance in college and started to learn anatomy and physiology.

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Went on to get certified as a personal trainer.

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been doing that for 20 plus years, but even in my years of personal training, what I
realized was no matter how hard we were exercising, if we weren't addressing nutrition, we

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weren't making the progress.

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So I started to learn and get certified in different areas of nutrition.

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I've gone on to get a hormone health certification, a gut health certification, a holistic
health coach certification, all through the Integrative Institute of Nutrition, because it

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all works together.

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what this is telling me is that you have a real passion, not just for fitness per se, but
really, you know, kind of helping to answer the questions that we ask.

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How good can you be?

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Right?

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Like how good can we make this?

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How healthy can we make the clients that we're serving?

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Right.

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And that's kind of a cool question to be asking.

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So, you know, when we think about Los Angeles and I've got friends in Los Angeles, you're
being one, but I other friends in Los Angeles.

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College roommate actually lives in Altadena and his house was recently damaged but not
destroyed by the fire.

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Although I guess you can question whether or not it's going to be movable or he'll be able
to move back into it in any reasonable period of time.

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But anyway, you're out there in LA and we recently had those horrendous fires in the
Palisades and I think you live a little bit south of there if I'm not mistaken.

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But tell us a little bit about what's going on in LA.

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Yeah, I'm not too far from it.

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I'm probably about 12 miles from where the Palisades fire was.

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But then obviously we had the Altadena fire going at the same time.

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And then we had the we had one other fire that burned actually quite close to me that
actually ended up causing evacuations for me power down for several days.

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Yeah, when the evacuation

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Where did you go?

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Where did you end up going?

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My ex-husband who lives not far from me was just outside of the evacuation zone.

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So that's where we went first because by the time I was evacuated the Palisades fires had
already been going on for several days and so many of those people There there wasn't a

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hotel available for hundreds of miles.

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So I got out of my house, you know with what we needed obviously, thank goodness
everything ended up being okay, but

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When that evacuation order came in, when that fire kicked up, I stepped out my front door
and it looked like the apocalypse.

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Like just the clouds of black smoke, the planes, the water drop planes flying over the
helicopters.

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And, you know, 24 days, the Palisades fire burned.

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it's, we lost an entire city.

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We lost multiple cities, obviously, with three fires going on at the same time.

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It's almost hard to imagine that unless you're kind of right in it.

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I mean, we saw the pictures, right?

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And I was in Texas or a little bit in Puerto Rico, maybe for part of it.

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But, um, I mean, the pictures just looked unbelievable.

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And, um, you know, I had friends that had homes in the Palisades as well that lost, that
lost their homes.

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One of the guys is, uh, who's been on the podcast, actually Shelley Jordan, Dr.

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Shelley Jordan, who's a neurologist, uh, works at UCLA doing some really interesting
longevity stuff.

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said,

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I lost a house, but I made a lot of friends.

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And so, which was interesting.

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So I'm curious, did you have a sense of community, sort of the community kind of coming
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Is that kind of what happened for you?

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for sure.

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I used to live in the Palisades.

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I spent several years there.

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That's actually where I started my personal training career was in the Palisades.

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losing it, knowing so many people that lived there, very, very emotional and hard to
process that an entire city was gone.

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For me, I am definitely somebody who just likes to help.

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So immediately it was, I was going to the shelters.

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What can I bring?

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What can we donate?

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I took up a collection.

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And I allowed my followers to also be able to help.

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So I put up an Amazon list where people could buy and have the stuff come to me.

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And I went and then delivered it to multiple shelters, got my son involved because I
wanted him to understand the importance of, hey, look, when stuff like this happens, we

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spring into action.

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Like, this is when we need to come together.

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So it was beautiful to watch people come together.

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but it's also heartbreaking to see what so many people had to experience.

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And quite honestly, there's still experience in it, right?

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mean, even though the, even though the fires have been put out, the rains have come, you
know, all that sort of thing.

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the aftermath, kind of the psychological trauma, I would imagine that there's a lot of
people seeking counseling, of some sort, right?

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To kind of deal with loss and deal with the trauma of it all.

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I would think that's going on.

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I would, yeah, I would think for sure there's, mean, I know several people, like I said,
that unfortunately lost everything and, you know, they go through stages of grief.

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The first thing is sort of that shock and then, you know, anger, frustration, like what,
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What is the next step?

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Rebuilding, am I gonna rebuild?

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Am I moving my family?

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Kids are in school.

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So there's definitely a lot of...

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a lot of trauma that comes with it.

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And it's really interesting to watch what's happening in our city because obviously we're
getting rains now, so we're getting mudslides.

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We've been getting quite a bit of earthquake activity the last several days.

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So in Malibu, so same area, two of our major roads, the Pacific Coast Highway is still not
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Topanga Canyon, those are two things that people will take to avoid the highways.

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With both of those closed down, the traffic alone is, mean, commute.

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So how much more time we're spending in traffic, how much more time we're spending
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I had to go to Beverly Hills the other day at 17 miles from my house.

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It took two hours.

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wow.

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Yeah, that's, mean, LA traffic is, is pretty unbelievable.

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I remember being in LA, driving around at 11 o'clock at night one time on a, I don't know
if it was a Thursday night or something, but it was bumper to bumper at 11 o'clock at

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night.

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That's like, that was without the fire.

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So I can only imagine how crazy it is now.

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But you know, there's, there's also a lot of health consequences there.

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So did you start to, you know, one of the things that's unusual about this fire is it's
not like a forest fire, right?

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It's, it's you're burning.

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a lot more than trees and certainly forest fires, you know, throw off a lot of soot and a
lot of toxins, so to speak.

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But when you're burning car batteries and electrical transformers and, know, everything's
kind of going up tires and everything else, you're really inundated with a ton of, a ton

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of toxins in the air and it sort of pollutes, you know, the water runoff, the oceans, all
that kind of stuff.

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So what's, what, what's been the sense, for you around, you know, how to deal with some of
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Yeah, that's been one that has been weighing on me incredibly heavy because I started to
notice things for myself and my son probably within the first week and a half.

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Cause you know, you've got textiles, you've got cleaning products, like so many, I would
think we had over 6,000 structures burn and then like you said, cars and all of that.

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One of the biggest things I noticed for me right away was actually my nose.

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I was waking up.

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Like I was having a really hard time breathing at night.

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I still am waking up with very I'm gonna be descriptive and sorry if it's gross but very
dry thick Congestion mucus yeah that very sticky green and I'm not sick and I haven't been

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sick But it is still there every single morning.

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My son has been struggling quite a bit with his sinuses and congestion In fact, he just
came in right now and asked me if he could take a clarotin

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because he took one last night because he's having trouble sleeping and I'm like, we
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detoxification, with the air purification.

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So there's four different Jasper air purifiers in my house, in our bedrooms, in our main
living areas, you know, making sure I'm in for red sauna.

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go outside?

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I understand a lot of people are wearing masks and things.

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Is that something you're doing as well or how do you think about that?

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I haven't been wearing a mask outside.

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What I have been doing is not going outside as much.

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So like, I love to walk and I usually walk my neighborhood two to three miles every day.

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I'm not doing that right now.

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I'm keeping my walks inside on the treadmill with the air purifier going.

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I mean, you could probably speak better on this.

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I've read a lot of science in both directions on masks and when you're wearing it and how
much more of your own carbon binoxide you're breathing back in and things like that.

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So for me, I didn't really want to be walking around in the mask.

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I just am trying to be more aware of the time I'm spending outside the air quality, you
know, little bit better after it rains.

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But still, this is something we're going to be dealing with.

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Even the cleanup, you know, we're dealing with the cleanup that's going to take months, if
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They're talking about

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using the Calabasas landfill, which is not too far from my house at all, as a place to
drop quite a bit of the Palisades fire debris.

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And, you know, people in this area are having a very hard, yeah, because, you know, every
time you move that stuff, you're kicking all that debris back into the air.

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so we people sort of think, OK, the fires are out.

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It's over.

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But it's so far from over.

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You know, my friend saw him that it was in, Alta Dina that was damaged.

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think he had some, some roof damage and offense, damage and maybe a few other things.

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You know, they're talking about cleaning these, these structures, right?

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To be able to move back into them.

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And I'm like, my gosh, I don't, I don't know that I ever want to move back into that
structure, right?

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Because it's hard to ever get.

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all of those chemicals out of there.

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mean, imagine you have a fine dust that just kind of permeates everything.

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Like, I don't know, I don't know if you can clean well enough, right?

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The insulation and everything else that's in a home to actually get all that stuff out.

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So it's really, it's really kind of a sad scenario.

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I guess your home wasn't damaged directly.

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Do you feel like there's a need to kind of clean your own, your own home or that sort of
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Or do you feel pretty good about it?

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It wasn't damaged directly.

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And like I said, we were 12 miles with the air, like the wind usually blowing more towards
the ocean instead of in my direction, which is probably why it didn't come closer to me.

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So I haven't felt a need for exhaustive cleaning.

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I I clean the house every week.

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I use only...

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really good quality cleaning products that don't have chemicals in them.

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Everything is non-toxic.

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Like I said, I put the air purifiers in.

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I have hardwood floors.

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I don't have carpets.

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I actually just bought this mini vacuum and kind of got influenced, but a mini vacuum that
helps you like vacuum your bed and your sofas to try to just get the excess out of there.

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So I'm not seeing a whole lot in that aspect.

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I do change my

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air filters in the house just from the HVAC system.

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I usually change those every six months.

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I might take that to every three for a while just to make sure that everything is moving a
little more, a little more.

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But I think one of the things that is interesting to me is the water quality.

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Like,

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know, talk to us about that because you do even drink city water there or how does that
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I don't, I have a special knob on my sink that's filtered water.

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So I'm getting that's pretty high quality filtered water, but then you start to think,
okay, I don't drink it, but I shower in it.

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I wash my dishes in it when I run the dishwasher.

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So I wash my clothes in it.

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What, you know, how bad is it?

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It's, it's, you know, and that's one of the things that I don't really know.

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I don't really know just how bad it is.

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know certain areas, the palisades, Altadena, like definitely had alerts where it was do
not drink.

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So it is, it's just things that we have to be aware of.

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yeah, it's ubiquitous, right?

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I mean, that's the problem with something like this.

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It becomes ubiquitous.

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It's impossible to escape it.

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And that's the, that's the scenario we're talking about.

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So, you know, I was just looking at some of the toxins that come out of a fire like this.

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have fine particulate matter, of course.

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Interesting thing, can cause lung inflammation, cardiovascular issues.

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It can worsen asthma, respiratory diseases.

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It's cleared by the lungs and typically a matter of weeks, but it does take weeks.

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And chronic exposure, if you keep getting it, like if they're going to do this landfill
close to you, you know, can even cause long-term damage.

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And then you've got these volatile organic compounds, right?

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These toxic gases that come from, you know, burning all these different substances.

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And that can stay in your body for hours to days.

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So...

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That's pretty tricky.

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A lot of people have headaches, ear and eye irritation, or eye and nose rather,
irritation, nausea, fatigue, dizziness.

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And then you've got metals, lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium that come out of these
buildings too.

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And some of the metals like arsenic can clear in a few days, but others like lead and
cadmium can persist for years, right?

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So, you know, I think one of the things

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would be to potentially do some testing to kind of see how much oxidative stress your
body's under.

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Do you have higher levels of minerals and environmental toxins than you ordinarily would
have?

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There's testing that can be done for that.

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But to your point about the symptoms, there's respiratory symptoms here.

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This dry nose congestion, this thick, sticky mucus, shortness of breath, things like that.

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That's very common here.

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And it's pretty, pretty...

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ubiquitous.

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think most people are probably experiencing something from that.

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I was just going to add to that that, you know, there's some genetics that really kind of
dictate how well we're able to detox.

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And there's a company called Intel X DNA.

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It was started by two women in Austin, Texas.

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It's Intel XX as in XX chromosome.

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And one of their panels is a detox panel basically.

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And there are a number of different genes that actually impact our ability to detox from
something like this.

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So some people will be much more affected by this and other people much less affected by
it.

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But one of the things that shows up over and over again in the panel as helping these
genes, these detox genes to work better is something called sulforaphane, which you may

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have heard of sulforaphane because it's in pretty high concentrations in broccoli.

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It's even higher concentrations in broccoli sprouts and even higher concentrations in
broccoli seeds.

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And there's a product called Abmacol, Abmacol Extra that's basically sulforaphane.

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It's combined with an enzyme called Myrinase that actually activates the sulforaphane.

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And that's maybe one of the best things that you can take to help up-regulate the genes
that actually cause detox.

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Another thing that's really helpful is to boost your NAD levels.

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Right?

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So this is not like getting NAD IVs, but it's using products like Vitality that actually
can boost NAD levels in the blood.

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And if you combine it with something like Apigenin, which blocks the degradation of NAD,
you can have higher NAD levels, which help you detox as well.

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And then hydrogen water is super helpful because it upregulates all of your oxidative
stress molecules.

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So the way it works is you have a toxin, the toxin's causing inflammation, the
inflammation's associated with oxidative stress, the oxidative stress is damaging your

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cells.

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So when you're thinking about how am gonna deal with this, obviously you wanna block the
intake, but the stuff you do take in, you've gotta be working across those different

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layers, right?

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So you wanna be taking care of the oxidative stress as well as the inflammation, right?

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And so super important to do that.

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And then glutathione genes are in there, right?

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So taking things that boost glutathione like N-acetylcysteine and glycine help people to
do that.

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So anyway, those are some of the things that really, you know, kind of jump out.

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There are many other things that can be done.

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You know, you can use zeolite to help you bind up toxins in your gut, to get rid of
things.

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And then, you know, I think saunas are a good way to detox.

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We use saunas to, you know, great efficacy with people that have heavy metal toxicity,
combination of using something called metal free in the gut to help pull it out through

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the gut.

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But sitting in the sauna, we've been able to lower people's mercury levels and lead levels
dramatically.

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So if you have access to a sauna, it would be a good time to kind of jump into that.

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I don't know if that's anything that you have been doing or have access to.

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there anything, any of those things that resonate?

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I mean, obviously from working with you for the last several years, Avmikol I've been
taking, NAD, glutathione.

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I know I'm lucky I have an infrared at my house.

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I actually purchased one, believe it or not, like they are pricey, but for what I do, I
purchased it during lockdown when I was in development of another fitness program and I

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wasn't able to go anywhere for any kind of self-care, but I really needed some extra
self-care.

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I am one of those people that has a genetic predisposition to having a harder time of
detoxing.

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And when we realized that in my genetics, it was like, okay, I've had heavy metal
poisoning a few times now.

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And it's, you I always say like, what am I doing?

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I'm not eating the fish, you know, or I'm doing all the things, but my body tends to have
a harder time.

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So I definitely try.

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to do all those extra things.

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I use the molecular hydrogen.

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The other thing I noticed is I've been more dehydrated lately, which is crazy because I'm
70, 80 ounces of water a day.

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I actually ended up calling and getting an IV the other day, like last week, because I
just was like, I can tell I'm so dehydrated and I had done some blood work and it came

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back same thing that I was dehydrated, which didn't really make sense.

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actually run through more water, so to speak, right?

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There's more coming out in the urine, the stool, everything else, right?

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So it doesn't even mean you have diarrhea per se, but it just means that your body's using
that water to process all those toxins.

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So yeah, and getting a good number of electrolytes is helpful also, right?

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Have you noticed a difference in your ability to work out?

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Has it impacted you there as well?

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think just sometimes, a little bit, yes, because when it's harder to breathe, especially
when you're trying to sleep, you don't get as good of a night of sleep, which means then

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you don't have the same amount of energy.

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So I have noticed some things, and I will also say this, it's interesting, because I'm 44,
almost 45, so I'm perimenopause menopause.

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I feel really good for the most part, but...

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I've noticed a little more aches in my joints, which could just be hormones, you know,
fluctuating and doing their things.

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But everything was really solid.

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And then we had the fires and I've had some hot flashes.

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Not, not like I had consistently before I balanced blood sugar and insulin and things like
that, but just little things that make me go, huh, everything was pretty stable.

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Then we had these fires.

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I definitely have some things going on.

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and I'm recognizing other symptoms happening.

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So I know I'm a person who's very in tune with my body.

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I have spent years and I pay attention.

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So when I get a signal, I'm going, I'm not just trying to squash the signal, I'm trying to
understand what is causing the signal.

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And then what can I do to help improve it?

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Yeah.

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I think when you're exposed to a lot of toxins like that, it does increase this, you know,
sort of systemic or body wide inflammation.

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Right.

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And so it can show up in your joints, your eyes, you know, anything, right to your lungs,
your throat.

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So, yeah.

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So it's important for people to understand.

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And I think not to ignore this stuff.

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I would be doing the detox protocols.

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You know, one of the other things I was thinking about with, congestion and nasal sinuses,
we had a woman here from Canada, last week who came down from Calgary, who

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has been living in a home that has mold in it and she's been unable to get better and
they've done some remediation there but her husband loves his home.

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It has a beautiful view apparently of the mountains and doesn't want to leave this home
and I'm like well you know I mean she's struggling, her son is struggling, as like maybe

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we need to remediate the home a little bit further but in the meantime what we did for her
was we gave her ozone, an e-boot.

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So we did an Ibu treatment, which filters the blood of toxins and including mold toxins
and ozonates the blood, which improves the NAD to NADH ratio.

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So you actually have more NAD.

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And then we actually did ozone gas insufflation into her sinuses to help clear them out
and help clear out the mold.

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And so that can actually be very salutary and effective at, sort of detoxing the sinuses.

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So for people that are struggling with that, if you have access to a practitioner that has
some ozone.

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or e-boo or that sort of thing.

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That can also be another nice ad for you.

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She left here feeling great.

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Like she hadn't felt this good in a long time, right?

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So those things can be super helpful.

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Would that also, I'm just curious, the 10 pass that we've done on me with ozone for blood,
would that be something that would help as well?

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It does.

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I think in this case, when you've got so many toxins doing the ebu, the E-B-O-O is how
that's spelled ebu.

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If you can find somebody that has ebu close to you, you know, that has a filtration
process.

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And what we've noticed for people with mold is that we can take down their mold titers.

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It doesn't, it doesn't all go away in a single therapy.

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But if you do like two or three or four of them,

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you can get people to come way down and it seems to take out other toxins as well.

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So, and the ozonation is great because it improves energy for people.

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And a lot of times when you're suffering with inflammation or toxin exposure, one of the
first things to go is your energy is just kind of, you know, it's kind of mitigated,

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right?

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It's just like, don't feel, just don't feel myself or whatever.

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And when you boost that NAD to NADH ratio, like I said, when you oxidize,

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Ozone is an oxidative stress, right?

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It's like exercise.

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Exercise is little bit of an oxidative stress.

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This is a therapeutic oxidative stress too.

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It improves that to where all of a sudden you've got energy again and that helps your body
detox faster, right?

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Because you need ATP not only to do all the normal functions, but also detoxing takes a
lot of energy and that's kind of why you feel fatigued.

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So those are, know, that when I was talking about the Vitality Plus that we use that
powder along with the Apigenin,

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That's very important to keep your NAD levels up so you have the energy to actually do
what you need to do.

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Yeah, I loved it when we did the 10 past the ozone on me.

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I remember sitting there and while we were doing it, I could feel myself becoming more
alert, waking up.

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It was really incredible.

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And I do know we have facilities here in LA that do the Ibu.

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And actually it's something I was looking into.

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So it might be something I need to go try for this process.

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And if they have eBooth and if they have ozone, they might be able to help you with their
sinuses too.

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You can't breathe ozone in, right?

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Because it's, it's toxic to the lungs, but, but there are ozone saunas out there also,
right?

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A hot kit is one and you can sit in it with your head out and it's, it's hot steam.

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And then ozone is ozone gases put into the steam.

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now you're, you're taking those ozonoids through your skin.

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and getting the same effect that you would from a 10 pass, except you don't have to have
an IV.

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just as people are listening to this, wondering, well, geez, what can I do?

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Well, these are some things you can do to kind of really move the needle, if you will.

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So yeah, cool.

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Let me ask, if you don't mind me asking a question, so I know, so many people are gonna be
listening and we've sort of talked about a wide variety of things, especially being at

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different price ranges.

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What would be the good, better, best if we were looking to really detox ourselves?

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First,

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Yeah, I think the good, better, best, the good would be, you know, pick up some hydrogen,
pick up some so for a fame, some admin call with my Renee's pick up some anesthetics,

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assisting to help you make glutathione.

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I think doing what you're doing, you know, with an air purifier, staying away from toxic
things.

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If you're super sensitive, I would probably wear a mask if you're going to be around this
stuff.

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If you're not, then I wouldn't wear the mask.

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I think it's really important though to maintain physical activity in all of this, right?

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So you don't want to give up on your exercise, but you may have to exercise at a lower
level.

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So that would be the good.

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I think the better would be, okay, I'm going to actually up my ante a little bit more.

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So now I'm going to take the supplements, but now I'm going to maybe go do an Ibu and get
some of this stuff out of my system.

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Maybe I do that.

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you know, every couple of weeks or something like that.

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And then maybe do some of the ozone insufflation.

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I think the best would be to say, okay, I'm going to get my genetics tested.

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I'm going to actually see how well I do detox and what I detox better than other things.

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Right.

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Am I, am I more susceptible to the organic toxins or am I more susceptible to the heavy
metal toxins?

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Because then you can fine tune your supplementation based on, on your genetics.

414
00:31:03,558 --> 00:31:06,309
And that's really, you know, how you do a good job.

415
00:31:06,537 --> 00:31:10,350
Then from there, think you would buy a sauna and put it in your home, right?

416
00:31:10,350 --> 00:31:12,841
There are infrared saunas that work very well.

417
00:31:12,841 --> 00:31:14,362
So this would be best.

418
00:31:14,362 --> 00:31:16,103
Then you're also doing the supplementation.

419
00:31:16,103 --> 00:31:17,154
You're also doing the hydrogen.

420
00:31:17,154 --> 00:31:19,325
You're also doing the intermittent ozone.

421
00:31:19,366 --> 00:31:22,778
And I think that's probably how I would graduate that.

422
00:31:22,778 --> 00:31:25,189
Yeah, but for sure.

423
00:31:25,311 --> 00:31:27,738
how long should somebody do it for, right?

424
00:31:27,738 --> 00:31:32,251
Like we're here, we're experiencing it, we don't really know how long we're gonna...

425
00:31:32,981 --> 00:31:33,561
Yeah.

426
00:31:33,561 --> 00:31:43,621
So if it's a, if let's say it's a one-time exposure, uh, let's say you flew to LA and the
fire broke out and you were stuck in a hotel there and you got exposed, but you left and

427
00:31:43,621 --> 00:31:47,081
you came back to, wherever you are, went back to wherever you're from.

428
00:31:47,481 --> 00:31:55,101
You know, what I would do also in the best categories, I would get lab tests done and be
measured for toxin levels, right?

429
00:31:55,101 --> 00:31:56,361
Because you could see that.

430
00:31:56,361 --> 00:31:58,207
then, um,

431
00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:00,629
You know, some of those things like metals can take a while.

432
00:32:00,629 --> 00:32:03,041
Some of the, some of the other things are more short lived.

433
00:32:03,041 --> 00:32:08,705
So you could actually track it and say over three months, I'm going to actually make
significant improvements.

434
00:32:09,026 --> 00:32:18,405
And, and I think if you're really diligent about it and you're outside of the exposure
zone, you could probably detox really quite dramatically in, you know, eight weeks, 12

435
00:32:18,405 --> 00:32:19,894
weeks, something like that.

436
00:32:20,015 --> 00:32:26,660
I think if you're in the zone where you're constantly being re-exposed, that's another,
that's another story.

437
00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:27,111
Right.

438
00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,029
I think.

439
00:32:28,029 --> 00:32:34,153
I think, you know, I talked with my, with my good friend, my, it's my college roommate for
four years, right?

440
00:32:34,153 --> 00:32:35,724
We know each other extremely well, right?

441
00:32:35,724 --> 00:32:39,857
He lives there in Alta Dena and it's like, are you going to leave?

442
00:32:39,857 --> 00:32:43,330
You know, I mean, you know, he's got family in Colorado.

443
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:44,811
He's got family in other places, right?

444
00:32:44,811 --> 00:32:46,162
So it's like, are you going to leave?

445
00:32:46,162 --> 00:32:51,606
And he ended up staying once to stay, because he has so much community there.

446
00:32:51,606 --> 00:32:52,867
And I totally get that, right?

447
00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:56,669
He's lived there for a long time, ever since college and.

448
00:32:57,133 --> 00:33:02,535
It's hard to leave community behind and yet sometimes there are hard decisions to be made.

449
00:33:02,535 --> 00:33:07,046
Like I think this is really going to damage my health if I stay around here.

450
00:33:07,046 --> 00:33:15,728
And so I think this is where, you know your levels and you know your genetics and you know
what you're susceptible to, it's like, this just isn't the place for me, right?

451
00:33:15,728 --> 00:33:20,720
Maybe this was for a season, but now, now it's a different season and it's time to move
on.

452
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,981
I think one of the key things for humans that we always have to do is to be willing to
adapt.

453
00:33:26,037 --> 00:33:26,397
Right.

454
00:33:26,397 --> 00:33:30,837
And we're so, we're so used to getting comfortable in a particular setting.

455
00:33:30,837 --> 00:33:32,237
Like I love California.

456
00:33:32,237 --> 00:33:32,957
I love the mountains.

457
00:33:32,957 --> 00:33:33,677
I love the ocean.

458
00:33:33,677 --> 00:33:34,317
I love this.

459
00:33:34,317 --> 00:33:36,037
It's like, how could I ever leave?

460
00:33:36,037 --> 00:33:39,377
Well, if there's a big enough earthquake, you will probably leave, right?

461
00:33:39,377 --> 00:33:42,397
If there's a big enough disaster, you will probably leave.

462
00:33:42,397 --> 00:33:45,457
So the question is, what's my threshold for leaving?

463
00:33:45,537 --> 00:33:47,677
And, and, you know, it's true here, right?

464
00:33:47,677 --> 00:33:51,297
I mean, if there's big tornadoes that come through in Texas or whatever, am I going to
stay here?

465
00:33:51,297 --> 00:33:51,837
I don't know.

466
00:33:51,837 --> 00:33:52,397
You know?

467
00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:54,355
So I think, um,

468
00:33:54,355 --> 00:33:59,167
I think it's really important to have an adaptable mindset and not be married to a
location, right?

469
00:33:59,167 --> 00:34:01,877
And you can, you can find community wherever you go, right?

470
00:34:01,877 --> 00:34:03,268
I have community around the country.

471
00:34:03,268 --> 00:34:04,178
I'm sure you do too.

472
00:34:04,178 --> 00:34:13,371
And so, I think it's really important not to feel like I'm fated to always be here because
that's not the case.

473
00:34:13,371 --> 00:34:17,082
You can, there, you know, it's difficult, but you can pick up and go, right?

474
00:34:17,082 --> 00:34:18,373
So people do it all the time.

475
00:34:18,373 --> 00:34:19,173
Yeah.

476
00:34:19,378 --> 00:34:20,569
Yeah, that is a big one.

477
00:34:20,569 --> 00:34:22,479
And I've seen a lot of people talking about it.

478
00:34:22,479 --> 00:34:28,052
There's a another girl who's very into longevity has a clinic and things like that.

479
00:34:28,052 --> 00:34:34,135
And her and she's here in LA and her and her husband are in their season of life where
they're getting ready to conceive.

480
00:34:34,135 --> 00:34:44,779
And she has been very vocal about talking about her toxic load, measuring it, sharing it
on social what's going on and, whether or not they're going to say they've only been here

481
00:34:44,779 --> 00:34:46,740
a couple years, but she is

482
00:34:46,994 --> 00:34:53,459
very highly considering leaving California because of the toxic load and trying to
conceive and what that would mean.

483
00:34:53,461 --> 00:34:54,041
Sure.

484
00:34:54,041 --> 00:34:56,951
I mean, there's many reasons to go.

485
00:34:56,951 --> 00:34:59,654
I think that's one good reason to really think hard about it.

486
00:34:59,654 --> 00:35:03,945
I think another is if you have a child that's really susceptible in some way, right?

487
00:35:03,945 --> 00:35:09,247
Are you really going to have them grow up in that scenario where it's really kind of
damaging to them?

488
00:35:09,247 --> 00:35:15,990
Certainly if you have young children, right, where their brains are still developing and
everything, and they're susceptible, is that something you really want to do?

489
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:20,812
So I think it's really important to think hard about this stuff.

490
00:35:21,713 --> 00:35:22,993
You know, I don't know.

491
00:35:22,993 --> 00:35:28,255
It's difficult to move, man, I don't know.

492
00:35:28,255 --> 00:35:29,656
would be thinking about it.

493
00:35:29,656 --> 00:35:32,397
If I was in LA, I would be gone.

494
00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:40,793
My daughter was in LA and I moved her out of LA to New York in September of last year.

495
00:35:40,793 --> 00:35:44,777
And I had a premonition that it was time for her to go.

496
00:35:44,777 --> 00:35:49,104
I couldn't put my finger on it, but I had a premonition it's time for her to go.

497
00:35:49,293 --> 00:35:51,081
her...

498
00:35:51,081 --> 00:35:54,484
her aunt and uncle had a home in the Palisades, right?

499
00:35:54,484 --> 00:35:56,385
She has a cousin out there, right?

500
00:35:56,385 --> 00:35:59,367
And her mom has had a home in the Palisades also.

501
00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:04,721
So a rental home, but it's like, no, I just feel like it's time for her to go.

502
00:36:04,721 --> 00:36:08,394
And she's so much happier in New York, it's a better fit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

503
00:36:08,394 --> 00:36:12,837
But I also feel glad she's not out there being exposed to all the toxins, right?

504
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:13,617
So.

505
00:36:13,695 --> 00:36:16,858
When you think about your family and your kids, it's not just about you either.

506
00:36:16,858 --> 00:36:20,671
It's about, you know, what environment am I going to allow my kids to experience?

507
00:36:20,671 --> 00:36:20,972
Right.

508
00:36:20,972 --> 00:36:22,003
So it's, it's a thing.

509
00:36:22,003 --> 00:36:22,853
Yeah.

510
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:26,146
I have one other question for you since we're talking through all this.

511
00:36:26,146 --> 00:36:28,427
You mentioned trauma at the beginning.

512
00:36:28,427 --> 00:36:35,227
And I remember when you and I first started working together, we got on our very first
initial call for you to say, Autumn, what are you looking for?

513
00:36:35,227 --> 00:36:36,712
What do you need help with?

514
00:36:36,772 --> 00:36:41,415
And one of the first questions you were asking me about was actually childhood trauma.

515
00:36:41,415 --> 00:36:45,258
And you were asking me like, what kind of levels of trauma have I experienced?

516
00:36:45,258 --> 00:36:49,684
And I thought it was really interesting at the time because I have actually experienced.

517
00:36:49,684 --> 00:36:57,210
quite a bit of emotional trauma in my life, but I had never been asked that question by a
doctor, maybe a therapist, but not a doctor.

518
00:36:57,210 --> 00:36:59,671
And I remember thinking to myself, like, that's interesting.

519
00:36:59,671 --> 00:37:01,913
I wonder where he's going with this.

520
00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:08,038
And obviously we started looking when we started doing my genetics and how I handle
stress.

521
00:37:08,038 --> 00:37:17,204
And that has been one of the things I've talked about it quite a bit with women's hormone
health that unless we manage our stress and our trauma and really learn how to process it,

522
00:37:17,362 --> 00:37:22,902
We can take all the supplements and we can eat all the healthy things, but we're not,
we're going to be missing a piece of the puzzle.

523
00:37:22,902 --> 00:37:26,168
So here we are with this massive trauma.

524
00:37:26,168 --> 00:37:28,473
How is this, how could it affect us?

525
00:37:28,473 --> 00:37:30,567
And what can we do?

526
00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:32,139
It's a great, it's a great point.

527
00:37:32,139 --> 00:37:34,231
I'm really glad you brought this up.

528
00:37:34,231 --> 00:37:41,826
you know, my glad longevity and I'll just refresh the audience's memory here, or maybe
introduce it for the first time.

529
00:37:41,826 --> 00:37:44,048
You know, we work really around five different circles.

530
00:37:44,048 --> 00:37:46,059
The first circle is life energy.

531
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,182
And that really has to do with the psycho spiritual space.

532
00:37:49,182 --> 00:37:53,801
And to me, that's actually the circle that binds all the other circles together.

533
00:37:53,801 --> 00:38:03,209
Because if we're not psychospiritually aligned, right, if we haven't gone back and
actually analyzed the trauma, and I've never met anybody that hasn't suffered trauma.

534
00:38:03,209 --> 00:38:06,192
I mean, I can't name one person that hasn't suffered trauma.

535
00:38:06,192 --> 00:38:18,763
So, you know, if you go back and you actually really think about, we've all suffered
trauma, we all end up living in reaction to that trauma, and now we're basically making

536
00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:21,315
decisions living in reaction to trauma.

537
00:38:21,525 --> 00:38:30,185
And I really feel like it's one of our goals in life to become our unencumbered selves,
where we're no longer encumbered by living in reaction to that trauma.

538
00:38:30,405 --> 00:38:36,105
And when you, when you're able to get to that unencumbered place, it's like, Oh my gosh,
it's like a breath of fresh air.

539
00:38:36,105 --> 00:38:37,305
like standing on a mountain top.

540
00:38:37,305 --> 00:38:38,665
like, where do we want to go today?

541
00:38:38,665 --> 00:38:40,405
We can do this and we can do that.

542
00:38:40,405 --> 00:38:42,945
It's like, Oh my gosh, I feel liberated, right?

543
00:38:42,945 --> 00:38:44,465
In an amazing way.

544
00:38:44,545 --> 00:38:46,381
But to get to that point.

545
00:38:46,439 --> 00:38:49,380
It's really, really important to do justice to the trauma.

546
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:52,762
You have to really understand what actually happened.

547
00:38:52,762 --> 00:38:53,952
Who did what to who?

548
00:38:53,952 --> 00:38:55,533
What was my contribution?

549
00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:57,134
What was their contribution?

550
00:38:57,134 --> 00:38:58,384
How was I impacted?

551
00:38:58,384 --> 00:39:00,575
How did I potentially impact them?

552
00:39:00,575 --> 00:39:07,689
And eventually we can get to a point where we forgive all the parties involved, ourselves
included, right?

553
00:39:07,689 --> 00:39:09,009
We forgive all the parties.

554
00:39:09,009 --> 00:39:11,540
And that begins the healing process.

555
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:13,741
And when you're able to heal the trauma.

556
00:39:14,153 --> 00:39:26,418
then you actually can move to the next stage where you actually through more counseling
therapy, in some cases even psychedelic experiences, you can get to a point where you

557
00:39:26,418 --> 00:39:28,479
actually transcend the trauma.

558
00:39:28,479 --> 00:39:38,183
And now you actually become grateful for everything that ever happened because it's been
your path to bring you to this point, to where we're on this podcast together, talking

559
00:39:38,183 --> 00:39:40,204
about these things and sharing it, right?

560
00:39:40,204 --> 00:39:43,207
And so when you enter that transcendent space,

561
00:39:43,207 --> 00:39:45,339
Now you're just grateful for everything.

562
00:39:45,339 --> 00:39:47,229
And that's such a beautiful place to live.

563
00:39:47,229 --> 00:39:48,601
You're no longer living in reaction.

564
00:39:48,601 --> 00:39:50,233
You're no longer have resentment.

565
00:39:50,233 --> 00:39:52,525
You no longer feel shame or guilt.

566
00:39:52,525 --> 00:39:55,057
It's just, no, this is where I'm supposed to be, right?

567
00:39:55,057 --> 00:39:59,410
And so that unencumbered space, my gosh, it's incredibly liberating.

568
00:39:59,410 --> 00:40:05,155
And it lowers stress in the body dramatically to the point where you can be really
healthy.

569
00:40:05,155 --> 00:40:07,795
So at Glad Longevity, we...

570
00:40:07,795 --> 00:40:10,607
we actually can measure the stress inside somebody's body.

571
00:40:10,607 --> 00:40:14,049
We didn't do this when you first came to see us, but we can do it now.

572
00:40:14,049 --> 00:40:19,302
We can hook people up to a machine and it will actually show us the stress inside their
systems.

573
00:40:19,302 --> 00:40:23,155
Even though they feel fine, we can see it and it's really, really revealing.

574
00:40:23,155 --> 00:40:33,801
And so now we actually work with a woman, actually full disclosure, my partner, Mukti
Devi, who basically is a...

575
00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:37,936
has a master's in psychology, but also spent five years in India in an ashram.

576
00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,307
She's done all kinds of spiritual things.

577
00:40:40,867 --> 00:40:44,048
She's doing a fellowship in psychedelic assisted therapies.

578
00:40:44,048 --> 00:40:50,030
And she really is wonderful for people to talk to because she can really help people start
to process this.

579
00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:58,813
And this is the path because when you solve trauma and you heal trauma and you transcend
trauma, and now you become your unencumbered self.

580
00:40:59,135 --> 00:41:04,329
my gosh, we see stress come out of the system dramatically and we can measure that
progress too.

581
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:07,321
So it's super, super interesting work.

582
00:41:07,321 --> 00:41:14,877
And I find that's really clearly one of the most important things we do for people because
to your point, nobody else brings it up.

583
00:41:14,877 --> 00:41:16,568
No longevity clinic brings it up.

584
00:41:16,568 --> 00:41:24,064
It's all about your hormones and your biology and your NAD levels and whatever else, but
really it's that psycho spiritual space that defines everything else.

585
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:25,421
So yeah, super cool.

586
00:41:25,421 --> 00:41:31,250
so people are now dealing with, know, there isn't really anybody to forgive.

587
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:32,642
It was a natural disaster.

588
00:41:32,642 --> 00:41:35,956
They have the trauma of they lost everything, right?

589
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,182
Do they go talk to somebody?

590
00:41:39,182 --> 00:41:40,303
Do they?

591
00:41:40,353 --> 00:41:42,473
Yeah, it's a safety question, right?

592
00:41:42,473 --> 00:41:49,573
So in my life energy circle, if people want to want to look in the book, 100 is the New
30, I talk about this.

593
00:41:49,693 --> 00:41:54,093
And in the circle, there's there's about a dozen different points.

594
00:41:54,633 --> 00:41:59,333
And we probably don't maybe you and I in a future podcast will go through the whole
circle.

595
00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:03,433
But one of the one of the points on the circle is feeling safe.

596
00:42:04,113 --> 00:42:11,257
And I think one of the things that really catches people up is that they don't feel safe,
right?

597
00:42:11,257 --> 00:42:12,698
They're worried, they're stressed.

598
00:42:12,698 --> 00:42:21,842
And I think that all worry, stress, fear, anxiety, even to some extent, depression and
greed are a function of not feeling safe.

599
00:42:22,083 --> 00:42:28,426
And so one of the realizations that I had was that nothing external to us can ever make us
feel safe, right?

600
00:42:28,426 --> 00:42:29,447
There's no amount of money.

601
00:42:29,447 --> 00:42:33,799
There's no place you live, no family you have, no education you got, no...

602
00:42:33,887 --> 00:42:41,224
following that you have, know, no whatever, that can ultimately make you feel safe because
everything can be taken away.

603
00:42:41,224 --> 00:42:44,057
And history has shown us that, and this fire just showed us that.

604
00:42:44,057 --> 00:42:45,808
Everything can be taken away.

605
00:42:46,329 --> 00:42:49,292
And yet people survived with their lives, right?

606
00:42:49,292 --> 00:42:53,687
And so ultimately to feel safe becomes really a psycho-spiritual question.

607
00:42:53,687 --> 00:42:58,355
How do I actually feel safe, feel loved, right?

608
00:42:58,355 --> 00:43:00,017
when everything's been taken away.

609
00:43:00,017 --> 00:43:06,994
And when you solve that equation, and that's something we help people with as well, when
you solve that equation, now you're truly unencumbered.

610
00:43:06,994 --> 00:43:11,119
Now you're free to suffer the, what I call the vicissitudes of life, right?

611
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,783
The ups and downs of life, if you will, and not really be impacted.

612
00:43:14,783 --> 00:43:17,366
And that's a wonderful place to be.

613
00:43:17,366 --> 00:43:19,958
Now you really have equilibrium and transcendence.

614
00:43:19,958 --> 00:43:20,969
Now...

615
00:43:20,999 --> 00:43:23,343
Now you're living on a completely different plane.

616
00:43:23,343 --> 00:43:25,136
And I think that's really the aspiration.

617
00:43:25,136 --> 00:43:29,222
You know, for us, it's when we're a hundred, to have a 30 year old body and a 300 year old
mind.

618
00:43:29,222 --> 00:43:30,685
That's what we're going for.

619
00:43:30,685 --> 00:43:32,898
So how do you develop that 300 year old mind?

620
00:43:32,898 --> 00:43:35,853
Well, you have to, you have to dive into this life energy circle.

621
00:43:35,853 --> 00:43:36,584
Yeah.

622
00:43:36,584 --> 00:43:46,808
Yeah, definitely probably something that's hard to do in the moment, obviously, like, you
know, to say, where is the silver lining?

623
00:43:46,808 --> 00:43:57,783
That is something I know personally, I've worked on where I've been able to, it's taken a
lot of mental work, a lot of emotional work, to when something gets really hard, I let

624
00:43:57,783 --> 00:44:02,115
myself feel the hard and I let myself acknowledge how hard it is.

625
00:44:02,115 --> 00:44:05,216
But I also try to constantly remind myself.

626
00:44:06,014 --> 00:44:07,585
There's a silver lining.

627
00:44:07,585 --> 00:44:09,085
There's a life lesson.

628
00:44:09,085 --> 00:44:20,789
It might take days, weeks, months, or years for me to understand what it is, but at some
point I'm gonna understand why I had to go through this and I'll be able to know that

629
00:44:20,789 --> 00:44:22,639
like, and have gratitude for it.

630
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:26,871
So let me try to have gratitude for it now and acknowledge what do I need to learn?

631
00:44:26,871 --> 00:44:30,386
What is the universe pushing me to discover?

632
00:44:30,386 --> 00:44:32,006
I did that with my gut health journey.

633
00:44:32,006 --> 00:44:33,807
remember thinking to myself, like, why me?

634
00:44:33,807 --> 00:44:37,428
Because when I was in the thick of my gut health journey, it was pretty bad.

635
00:44:37,428 --> 00:44:39,349
Like, I looked sick.

636
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:40,939
I felt sick.

637
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,680
I was getting accused of being anorexic and not eating.

638
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,081
And I was frustrated because I knew something was wrong, but nobody could tell me what it
was.

639
00:44:49,081 --> 00:44:51,362
And I was getting into the why me mentality.

640
00:44:51,362 --> 00:44:52,822
Like, I exercise, I eat healthy.

641
00:44:52,822 --> 00:44:53,693
Why is this happening?

642
00:44:53,693 --> 00:44:55,143
What is happening?

643
00:44:55,383 --> 00:44:58,894
And then when we realized it was issues with my gut.

644
00:44:59,132 --> 00:45:00,823
I started to have that same mentality.

645
00:45:00,823 --> 00:45:01,414
Why me?

646
00:45:01,414 --> 00:45:03,515
Like I do all the things right.

647
00:45:03,956 --> 00:45:12,022
But it, and it took a little time, but then eventually I started going, wait a minute,
Autumn, you have a platform, you have a voice and, and if it's happening to you, it's

648
00:45:12,022 --> 00:45:14,044
probably happening to other people.

649
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:18,467
So you have the opportunity to learn so that you can then teach.

650
00:45:19,749 --> 00:45:21,920
So, and that same thing with my hormone journey.

651
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,553
I had the opportunity to learn so that I can go teach.

652
00:45:24,553 --> 00:45:28,495
So while it's not fun to go through those processes,

653
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,276
It is fun to be able to give it back and teach it back and help somebody else.

654
00:45:33,276 --> 00:45:35,008
So that's just my little example.

655
00:45:35,008 --> 00:45:37,810
I've never lost a home or lost everything, but.

656
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:49,893
Yeah, no, I think it's a perfect example, quite honestly, because, you know, what I've
discovered is that sometimes doors close and they close pretty hard and they kind of slap

657
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:51,333
you in the face when they close.

658
00:45:51,333 --> 00:45:52,273
Right.

659
00:45:52,594 --> 00:45:58,415
And it's a little bit of a sting and that may be a big sting, maybe even get bruised by
it.

660
00:45:58,515 --> 00:46:04,317
But what I found is that when a door closes, it's opening another door.

661
00:46:05,169 --> 00:46:10,604
And the question to ask yourself is, okay, what door is now opening?

662
00:46:10,604 --> 00:46:13,396
With my gut thing, what door is opening for me, right?

663
00:46:13,396 --> 00:46:15,357
It's opening the opportunity.

664
00:46:15,378 --> 00:46:24,585
And I've had some insights recently within the last six months on the meaning of life
actually, that kind of factors into this.

665
00:46:24,726 --> 00:46:28,909
you know, during some deep meditations that I've done, I've...

666
00:46:28,927 --> 00:46:39,813
Connected to consciousness or pure love right it is pure love when you connect to
consciousness It is pure pure love and what does love love to do it loves to create and

667
00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:46,707
hence we have this unfolding universe of constant creation, right and What's the feedback
loop on creation for love?

668
00:46:46,707 --> 00:46:53,391
It's joy So the for me the meaning of life is from a loving place to create joy, right?

669
00:46:53,391 --> 00:46:57,919
And in the work that you do from a loving place you're creating joy

670
00:46:57,919 --> 00:46:59,669
for the clients that you have, right?

671
00:46:59,669 --> 00:47:03,910
And I've, in my work, it's from a loving place to create joy, right?

672
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:06,551
And we think we're chasing all kinds of other things, right?

673
00:47:06,551 --> 00:47:08,772
Accolades or money or whatever we think we're chasing.

674
00:47:08,772 --> 00:47:13,633
But quite honestly, at the end of the day, when you're on your deathbed, it's all
meaningless.

675
00:47:13,633 --> 00:47:18,704
What you're gonna really remember is that from a loving place, you created joy and you
touch people's lives.

676
00:47:18,704 --> 00:47:21,215
And that's the sweetness of life right there.

677
00:47:21,215 --> 00:47:27,167
And when you can embrace that in the moment of quote unquote tragedy and understand that
this is a nudge,

678
00:47:27,167 --> 00:47:31,886
pushing you in a direction that's gonna allow you to have from a loving place to create
more joy.

679
00:47:32,449 --> 00:47:36,658
Now you're really starting to live a life that you would love to be living.

680
00:47:36,658 --> 00:47:38,350
So that's cool, yeah.

681
00:47:38,350 --> 00:47:51,200
that's really beautifully said and that's so true from a loving place create joy and I
will say that is in all of the work that I do that is where I find the most fun the most

682
00:47:51,200 --> 00:48:04,079
happiness is when somebody messages me and says how good they feel and how happy they are
and thank you Yes, I enjoy the the material things that come from working hard and making

683
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,340
money but

684
00:48:05,598 --> 00:48:09,012
But those messages are what fill my cup.

685
00:48:09,012 --> 00:48:14,719
Seeing people get better, seeing them improve their health, that's the joy.

686
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:22,807
Then that's the reason I'll work as hard as I work for as long as I can because that is,
yeah, that's what brings me happiness.

687
00:48:22,807 --> 00:48:26,940
I've told people many times, our greatest joy is seeing our clients do well, right?

688
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:30,978
It's our greatest joy when they come back and say, my gosh, I had no idea I could feel
this good.

689
00:48:30,978 --> 00:48:32,965
It's like, we love that so much, right?

690
00:48:32,965 --> 00:48:34,086
We love that so much.

691
00:48:34,086 --> 00:48:35,827
So yeah, beautiful.

692
00:48:35,907 --> 00:48:38,459
Well, it's been, been lovely chatting with you.

693
00:48:38,459 --> 00:48:40,861
We're to look forward to more conversations.

694
00:48:40,861 --> 00:48:42,072
So that's great.

695
00:48:42,072 --> 00:48:43,187
So good.

696
00:48:43,187 --> 00:48:44,028
Thank you so much.

697
00:48:44,028 --> 00:48:44,828
This has been great.

698
00:48:44,828 --> 00:48:47,258
And you know, I know it's from a loving place.

699
00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:52,827
It's going to help bring more joy to people to understand this part of their body and what
they can do to improve it.

700
00:48:52,827 --> 00:48:53,561
Exactly.

701
00:48:53,561 --> 00:48:54,203
Exactly.

702
00:48:54,203 --> 00:48:55,509
So we're in that together.

703
00:48:55,509 --> 00:48:56,041
All right.

704
00:48:56,041 --> 00:48:56,443
Great.

705
00:48:56,443 --> 00:48:57,469
Thank you so much.

706
00:48:57,469 --> 00:48:58,082
Thanks, Dr.

707
00:48:58,082 --> 00:48:58,954
Gladden.