Recording of 10 Bonus Marketing Superpowers

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Now I'm going to share with you the 10 bonus author marketing superpowers. These are not things you have to read sequentially. These are not all superpowers you have to use.
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You don't have to do every one of these things. This is not a step-by-step list, but it's 10 concepts that hopefully change how you think about running a publishing business and reaching your readers. So to kick it off,
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I want to start with meme marketing. Now, each slide is structured with a front and a back. There's one slide that doesn't have a back because I'm just going to rant off a lot of ideas, which will be really fun.
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But meme marketing is something that Dakota Kraut famously uses. He's a literary PG author. He's quite a large literary PG author.
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If you check out his Facebook profile, he's constantly making memes that his readers then share. And it's one of the main ways he markets his books.
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And Dakota Kraut is literally will regularly launch books, not into just the top 100 of the Amazon store, but the top 10. So he has quite the audience. Now, what is meme marketing?
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Meme marketing is integrating your story with culturally relevant memes to drive greater awareness and fan engagement with your business. And what I'm going to show you is step-by-step how to create a meme for free,
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which is fun because why would we want to spend a bunch of money creating memes? Now, memes, I think traditionally we think of as just for fun. We might think of them in kind of like a different, more goofy context.
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But when we can take these popular what's called meme templates, which if you've seen a meme online, I'm sure you all have. They're really popular on Instagram, especially. There's a lot of really big meme pages there.
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They'll take these like common formats, like there's Bad Luck Brian, or there's like the Grumpy Cat, or there's like the girl standing outside of the house on fire.
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There's all these ones that, you know, I'm not even saying, I'm not even showing you the meme, but you probably already know what I'm talking about because you've probably seen it.
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You'll then take a message that's attuned to a specific community of people or to even your story. And people will find it funny. People will find it relatable.
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And it's really easy to share something with others when you find it funny and relatable, right? Like you've just made it really easy for your reader to share your stories. And that's what meme marketing is about.
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And it's also about making it easy to reach new readers. Now, let's dive into how you can actually do that. How to become a meme lord. You don't actually have to become a meme lord. Maybe not. But
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first of all, the first step in this process is to identify a meme that is popular already. And I'm saying you'll likely find the best memes on Instagram.
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But in reality, there's memes everywhere, including on Facebook, including on threads, including like anywhere you go. Even on TikTok has some memes as well, right?
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And it's nice just to get a perspective of these different memes, start to get a style of like what memes do you resonate with where you go, oh, this is pretty funny.
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I think memes are like one of those universal languages that, mind you, your memes are probably going to have English text on it. Although you could have a meme from a German audience or a French audience as well.
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It just would have to be localized to them. But I view them as somewhat of a universal language. They cross generations. They cross interests. They cross, you know, religious and national boundaries.
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They're these cool mediums to actually market and tell a story. Now, how you can actually create a meme is very simple. So I gave you this example of a website that I've used before.
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It's imageflip.com slash meme generator. And it's completely free. But there's other free meme generator sites. If you look up like free meme creation
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online on Google, you'll find other sites too if that site isn't for you. But each site basically works where you go to the site and again, totally free. And you're going to select a template, right?
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And that template, it's really important because that template's the image, the graphic that you're then going to place text on top of. And that image is probably going to be something that's culturally relevant.
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That's been a meme that's trended before. You could upload your own image and like make your own meme from scratch.
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I'm not telling you not to do that, but I don't feel like that's necessary because the real magic comes in step three, which is when you edit the text on the meme and actually make it funny and entertaining for readers.
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Now, I said for readers, not for your readers, because you have a few options here, right? You can take a meme and make it something that's an inside joke for your readers.
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Maybe your character has this like classic quote or there's this sticky situation that happens in your book that you want to share through a meme.
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Maybe there's this moment where like everything is like crashing down in your books. You take the girl. It's a very cute meme of the girl with the house burning behind her, right? It doesn't sound cute, but it is.
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And you have something that like went wrong in your book. Like, oh my God, when like the dragons destroy the village, you know, right? So you can do something like that.
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But remember, those memes are going to have a specific goal, right? You want to have existing readers share with your friends to increase word of mouth. And that's a great thing. But
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look, if our marketing superpowers are only about us, you know, increasing word of mouth, then how do we start when we maybe don't have readers yet who we can share our stories with, right?
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And that's where we can think of readers of our genre. Can we create memes that are relevant to any readers? Oh, okay. You read romance. You read fantasy. You read cozy.
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This is going to be relatable to you. Now, this might not directly market your books on the surface. It's not going to drive awareness directly of your story, but it's going to drive awareness of you, your brand.
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It's going to get people following you.
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And that's how you ultimately start to build trust and have them find your stories.And this is another superpower that I'm calling out here that I'll give you all, um, a sort of highlight from.
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But reader napping is when you pick a specific creator or audience that you get their audience from.
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So to bring that to light here, you could create a meme targeted towards, let's say, Brandon Sanderson fans, if you're writing epic fantasy, and reach his readers by participating in that fandom
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and grab his audience that way. And then of course step four is, like, post your meme to Facebook, Instagram threads. But what's great about a meme is that, like, the meme is almost the entire post, right?
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Like, you can, you can caption your meme, of course, uh, but your captions don't have to be four paragraph long captions, right? Like, the meme does the talking.
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Now, if you wanna dive deeper on this, there's a book that's a really wild book called Memes Make Millions by Jason Levin, all about meme marketing.
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So if you wanna dive, like, more into it, uh, you, you could do that if you want to make this your core superpower, because it's very possible just through memes alone.
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Um, and you're right, it's not available on Amazon, um, Terry, it's only available direct from the author, um, on their website. It's, uh, $19 I think for, like, the e-book and the audiobook.
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Um, and it's, like, available direct on their website. So if you just Google Memes Make Millions by Jason Levin you'll find it, but the only place I found is on their website.
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Maybe it's on other e-book retailers, but it's not on Amazon. Now,
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the next, uh, superpower I'll call is, like, the book doctor, and y- as you'll see some of these superpowers aren't, like, deliberate, like, marketing strategies, but they're more sets of questions, systems to ask yourself that help you be able to market your books better.
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And one of the biggest problems we have is, A, this book just isn't selling, right?
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And when we take a book to the book doctor, our goal is to ask a set of questions that help us determine why a book isn't selling and how we can fix it.
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I find that so oftentimes we can get, like, really, really emotional about, like, when a story isn't selling.
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Maybe we, like, really like the book, and we just feel like it should be selling more, and we keep pouring more into our marketing almost, like, blindly.
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Like, we're not lo- taking a step back to really analyze the situation, we're just pouring more into it.
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And other times we get scared, we feel insecure, we don't feel like our story is good enough, and we just stop sharing with the world entirely.
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But then we don't, again, ask ourselves, "Why didn't things go according to plan?" So here's how you can do that. It's what I call the book diagnostic. Now, I realize this text is grossly small.
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I tried to stick to, like, front and back, and I'm sorry. The actual, like, Author Marketing Superpower cards, the text is much bigger and I, I constrained myself more, but I gave you a lot of information here.
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And note you'll have the PDF version of this as well. But I'm gonna go through this in depth with you so you have it all right now too. So you wanna ask five questions, right? And once you ask these five questions,
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you should be able to take action to improve your sales, right? And that's the big thing that we wanna do here. That's the end goal. So question number one is, have you gotten traffic to your book's webpage yet?
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If yes, proceed to question number three. So we can skip to question number three. If no, proceed to question number two.
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Now, when I say traffic to a book's webpage, I really just mean, like, do you know if people have actually seen your book? Kinda sounds funny, but there's a lot of people who I've chatted with...
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This happened to myself too. My, my first series for a while didn't sell very well. I didn't know why. Um, but then the answer was, like, no one was seeing it, right? Like, th- they didn't have an opportunity to see it.
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And then at that time I started using Facebook ads to have people see it, but I'll, I'll tell you what went wrong with that series in a little bit.
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But I would move on to question number two when I was starting out with that series. Um, question number three would be my later thing when I realized this still isn't selling, but I'm getting traffic, right?
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So question number two is, okay, you've realized maybe you haven't really done that much to market this book. You really, you really realize that. You're like, "Oh, that's why it's not selling." That happens.
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So then you wanna ask yourself, what platforms, Q&As, newsletter swaps, and content could you create to get eyeballs on your book without spending money or very little? I think this is really key here.
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You don't wanna spend thousands of dollars to fix up your book. If we're taking the book to the book doctor, you know, we don't want it to be like, you know, healthcare in the United States.
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We want it to make it affordable. So don't do that. So try and not spend a ton of money, and think about ways you can get creative about getting some traffic. You don't need 1,000 people to see your book.
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You don't need 10,000 people to see your book. You need just enough to get some signal of whether it's working or not, which we'll ask in further questions whether it's working or not.
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So what I want you to do, this is really important, is start writing down, right, each marketing channel you test, each thing you do. And write down an estimate of how many people actually make it to the book's webpage.
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Now, mind you, this is really hard. You're not gonna always know if you make a TikTok how much people actually click to see your book.
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Um, you're not gonna know all the time, um, if you send out a newsletter sometimes occasionally you wanna have your tracking link there, of course. But, you know, it's an imperfect science sometimes.
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So if you wanna get tracking links, there's a lot of places you can get tracking links. Um, Bit.ly just allows, like, a few for free that you can get.
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I'm trying to recommend things that you can at least use to a high level or to a certain level entirely or usually mostly for free.
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So Bitly at least for testing is, is, is going to give you enough clicks for testing for free, which is why I, I like that.
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Um, and I've used it in the past, and you could include a unique Bitly link in your TikTok profile, a unique Bitly link in your newsletters, a unique Bitly link on your Instagram, a unique Bitlink link in your Facebook group, a unique Bitly link at the, at your book signing, and be able to actually attribute traffic that way.
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Is it perfect? No. But is it going to give you an indication, which is what we're looking for? Yes.
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So after question number two, feasibly we're moving on to question number three at this point, because if you're doing something that isn't-Getting you any traction at all, like, I just encourage you to keep trying.
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There's a lot of superpowers in here that will, that will help you with question number two specifically. But what we wanna do then is move on to question number three, which is ask ourselves how much traffic
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have you actually gotten to your Books by Page, and where have the majority of readers from your book, um, come from, right? Where have they discovered your story?
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So now we actually wanna analyze what we did and actually be reflective. So many of us might be realizing that one thing that we're doing to marketing our books, a specific newsletter swap,
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maybe it's a freebie newsletter we got mentioned on, that brought in most of our traffic, and everything else didn't really bring that much traffic in.
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That doesn't mean that you're bad at marketing, it just means you're good at that one area of marketing. Um, and, you know, it's not a bad thing if you don't have exact numbers, but
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what you wanna ask yourself is if you don't have any data here, go back to question number two, right? If you don't have enough.
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But if you have some estimates here of how many people have seen your book and where they've come from, you can move on to question number four.
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And I think question number four is where it starts to get fun, 'cause now you have to ask yourself, did the people actually buy or download your story?
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And if so, you know, what was the conversion rate broken down by marketing channel? That's, like, the really biggest thing, I think, is really looking at, okay, for
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freebies, like, did I get a lot of people to, like, see my book, but did they not buy anything? Okay, did, did they end up coming through Facebook and they bought my book more?
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Or my newsletter, but TikTok, crickets, even though people saw my book. What you wanna start to understand now is, is this a problem with you're investing in the wrong marketing channels,
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and you actually have some marketing you're doing that's really working well? Or is, and this happens, is, is none of your marketing working too well? And
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you realize that you're having trouble getting people to convert to your book. So if you see that marketing's working well, double down on it. That thing is working for you. Keep going.
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You just realized that you have a healthy habit that you wanna keep reinforcing, right?
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But if everything is converting low, it's just crickets, it's, it, it, it's not going great, you wanna move on to question number five, which is, is your book description and cover
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aligned with the kinds of audiences you are reaching and your marketing message, right? Like, that's so key. Like,
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if you are not having your description and cover match your marketing message, then that could match or signal, hey, you're getting all this traffic in your book, but they're expecting...
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This is a g- you know, almost a extreme example, but you keep advertising, you know, science fiction novel, but then they make it there and it reads a little bit more like a thriller. Now, that, that happens.
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Authors have made mistakes like that. Um, but the, the mistake can be so much more nuanced in terms of you bring someone, they're expecting something, and then they walk away with something entirely different.
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And sometimes, whether we're using Facebook ads, whether we're using TikTok, whether we're in Facebook groups, what gets attention on a social platform, and then what actually gets us a reader to connect, right, with our story, attention and connection are different.
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And one of the real arts of our job in marketing is getting them to align, where w- how we're getting attention and how we're getting readers to connect is ideally the same so that they really want it.
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So if, if your book description and cover aren't aligned with your marketing message, you know, do try and adjust either your marketing message or your cover. Um,
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but if they are aligned, then you probably are going to want to adjust the reader interests you're targeting.
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You might actually have the entire wrong target market, which is kind of weird to say, but sometimes we highlight the wrong interest in our story.
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Uh, you know, oftentimes we're kind of bound by genre convention, and we take a story that in reality, you know, in reality might be a book, I was talking with an author recently who loves cryptids, right?
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And she could say she's writing fantasy, but she's really writing, like, a cozy fantasy for cryptid lovers.
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That's a very specific story that if you're only marketing, like, cozy fantasy, yeah, maybe, maybe you're not getting a great conversion because
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the real group who's gonna really like your story, you're not being loud enough to reach. And part of your marketing is not getting as much people into your book as possible.
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It's being willing to have someone fall in love with your story, and to be loud about that.
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So equally, someone could decide they hate your story and it's not for them, and you wanna signal that to them as early as possible, and the earlier you can do that, the more effective your marketing's going to be.
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So don't be afraid to be loud. Don't be afraid to really share who your story's for, because unless we get really clear about that, we're gonna have trouble actually finding those people.
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Now, what I will say is I want you to think bigger than just genre here. It's not about the genre necessarily, although it can be.
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It's about the passions and interests your readers share, and genre is a proxy for that, but it can be one genre mixed with one interest. They can love basketball and cold cases. What does that story look like?
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Well, you can already think of that, right? What does that advertising look like? You can already think of that. Now, what does that look like for your story? Now, I tried to order these
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bonus superpowers in a way that made sense, and this flow I think definitely works, which is story shifter. I try to come up with, like, cute names for them, uh, that can hopefully make you remember what it is.
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Like, "Okay, things aren't working. I've gotta go to the book doctor now." And the book doctor is a nice, nice, uh, set of questions. Uh, so y- you won't get hurt there, right?
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Story shifter is kinda fun, uh, i- ideally.You can turn your degree into a shift or however you wanna think about it. But look, we all-- this all happens. Naturally, sometimes the book doctor tells us, like,
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like these questions, we're hitting a dead end here. Like, this isn't working. And, you know, what's fun about stories is the story doesn't have to die, it just has to change. It can m- morph into something entirely new.
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Now, that's what story shifting is, right? When we pivot our writing to reach a new reader interest. Notice how I, I, I said the word interest here, not necessarily genre. Now, there comes a time for us
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when we ought to do this, right? When we realize, you know, our, our messaging isn't aligned, or sometimes we're getting people to buy our book, but they're not actually reading it, which is a thing. So
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what we wanna then decide is, hmm, how do we actually do this? How do we actually shift our story? And sometimes
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what we find in this whole process through pivoting what we think our story is, we can actually reach a larger audience. 'Cause sometimes these interest groups that aren't a- as defined
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by the limitations of our-- the existing book market can cause us to wait to reach new heights, right?
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Um, think about something like Star Wars is a, is a very good example of people who are interested in space and Westerns, and mashing that together, and you can reach a much bigger audience than just Westerns alone, or just people who like space alone.
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So don't be afraid to get wild here, but again, that's not too instructive. So how do we do this? So the first thing I want you to do is think audience first.
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Pick the new audience interest you are targeting, 'cause you kind of need to know who you're writing for to an extent.
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But who you're writing for doesn't mean, you know, the marketing persona of they wear these clothes, and they talk this way, and they live in these states, and are this age. Like, no, no, no, no.
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It's more so what are they interested in? What stories are they interested in? What movies do they like to watch? What creators do they follow?
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Then adjust the pache- packaging of that story before you write a new story, or revise existing ones. So my suggestion here is you can have an existing story, right? That you wanna story shift.
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But before you shift that story, you're going to create a new product. Um, you can put this up for pre-order on a retailer, um, you can sell this direct.
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You're gonna have a lot more flexibility if you're doing this direct because pre-orders with Amazon can get weird, especially if you decide to take one down.
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So you wanna be careful with pre-orders on Amazon, 'cause, uh, Amazon doesn't like when you cancel pre-orders. You'll-- typically, their punishment is a year of no pre-orders.
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So you wanna, you know, think of it as a testing ground, whether you're doing it direct.
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What your real goal is here is to then create a hypothesis of what this new story is gonna look like, and, you know, create that cover, and whether you're creating it yourself, whether you're using something like, um, I think there's, like, Getcovers, I think was the one out of Ukraine that is very cost effective, um, and, and is pr- some pretty talented designers.
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But, you know, I'm not suggesting you go spend eight hundred dollars on a new cover here. Okay?
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I, I-- and mind you, there's a time and place to spend eight hundred dollars on a cover, and I will totally support them-- uh, support that. But I don't necessarily think this is the right time for that.
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I think this is the time to be scrappy, right? This is the time to be testing. And what you do is you take that cover and take that description, and you create that new story, okay? New story.
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I'm using quotes here 'cause it's not technically a new story yet. You don't write it. You don't write it at all. You start to pre-sell it, and this is so important because, um... Yeah, exactly.
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Thirty-five dollars does get a pretty d- decent co- that's the who- whole, whole thing is like, you know, spending amount of money that like, uh, hopefully it doesn't break the bank, and if it does break the bank, then get more creative and don't break the bank.
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I don't want anyone breaking the bank over this. And the whole goal is to pre-sell it so that you're able to run a Facebook ad, do a newsletter swap, and get actual data.
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Going back to the whole book doctor process, getting actual data this thing sells first. 'Cause if your book doesn't sell, it doesn't matter what's on the inside. That's a really hard reality that's true.
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It's story first, story always, but your marketing story has to be the first story that you know works, right? So you wanna see that if it's working, is your hunch, is your hypothesis right?
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And if it is converting readers, then develop the product. And sometimes that product development looks like revising an existing story and rebranding it.
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'Cause, you know, sometimes it looks like I'm gonna put that story to the side and write a new one, but I'm gonna shift my focus onto new stories and new audiences. But the principle is simple, sell first, then write.
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And that I almost always recommend. Now, this next one's fun. Huge change of tempo. Deep breath. I know I hit you all with a lot in our first twenty minutes. We have a long way to go. This is superpower number four.
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We have ten to cover. Um, but this one's really fun. This one I have a lot of personal experience with. And it's the holiday spirit, and I, I truly mean this, like it is the holiday spirit here.
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And it's one of, like, the most underrated strategies ever in, like, any business, by the way.
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Like, so if any of you are working at other businesses, um, if, if you're involved with other businesses, which you almost certainly if you're not, you know, working for a company, you could be working f- with a nonprofit, any organization you work for, this is, like, such an insane hack.
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I can't even describe how big it is. But this is when you give readers, authors in the context of our industry, and industry professionals you care about a holiday gift, right?
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You're building trust, you're showing you, you care about them. But here's why you do it, and I know this from first-hand experience. It's really hard to keep up with relationships.
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I mean, there's so much stuff going on in our lives. How much times do we go, "Oh, I love this author.
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Like, I caught them at a conference, but I just haven't reached out to them, and it's already like two months after the conference. This is, uh, getting, getting awkward now.
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I don't wanna say, 'Hey, I, I met you at X conference and, you know, that was last year. Nice to touch base again.' I don't really have a reason to touch base besides I realize you're-Business cards, someone asked.
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Um, right? Those moments, right? We all have the moments, special readers in our life. What are the readers that we're like, "I wish I could just email them and tell them how much I care about them."
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And, and sometimes you might do that, but other times, you know, you're busy. You're, you're like, "I gotta write this next book."
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This is where holidays are a really great excuse to actually reach out to people and touch base with them. Now, I'm gonna show you how to do it, but first I'm gonna tell you a story. So
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I've, I guess, f- for the last two years ran various holiday gift giving campaigns, but I'll share the most recent one I did, which I...
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And there's a lot of collaborations, a lot of people we cared about on that team that helped Beast grow, and I had a budget, um, for holiday gifts, and it was not an insane budget, by the way. Um, it...
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I was surprised to see a company that was much, much bigger than, um, is, is fathomable not spending that much more than what I had previously spent on holiday gifts for doing something in this industry the year prior.
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All this to say that, you know, a little bit can go a long way. But it was my job to send out 52 customized holiday gifts, um, to top creators, like C-suite people at YouTube, C-suite people at Facebook, et cetera. And
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it was, first of all, a lot of work. [laughs] So I, we went, like, all out on this, like personal notes, like custom boxes, custom merch, like exclusive things. It was, like, very fun. It was very, very fun for them.
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But so many of them, right, were texting after, like, "Thank you so much. This meant a lot."
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You immediately become top of mind for so many people that when they have an opportunity, they're going to reach out to you, and I can't underscore how powerful that is. And,
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you know, sometimes you go, "Ah, is it really that meaningful?"
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And you're also doing this from a place of genuine generosity. Now,
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you don't, as Jocelyn just said, you don't have to spend a lot to, to do this, uh, at all, and I'm gonna show you kind of, like, three different ways to do this campaign,
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and one of them is entirely for free, and then one of them is very low cost, 'cause I, I don't think you need to be spending thousands, hundreds, or even dozens of dollars to show that you appreciate the people around you, which is all this is about.
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This is just about giving you a deadline to do it. It's the holidays, right? So step one is first to just compile a list of everyone you'd like to send a gi- gift to, right?
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And what I want you to do is divide them into tiers. Now, you might only have one tier. I'm gonna send everyone X gift or X type of thing, but you might have different tiers.
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I think that's actually not a bad thing, to have different tiers to your gifts.
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You might wanna give someone something extra special, and other people that you still care about something special but maybe not as much effort and personalization.
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That, that, that sounds bad, but, like, you, you all know what I'm saying.
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Like, there's some people who deserve you to go the extra, extra mile, and there's some other people that you want to show your appreciation, but there's only so much time in the day, right?
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The next thing is to create the gift, and you could create these gifts based on different tiers that you divided people up from in step one, up to you.
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But here are, like, the f- the four general tiers, is to write a personal thank you email. This is so basic, and it's completely free, but it goes such a long way. Just, "Happy holidays."
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No ask, no, "I'm marketing something to you." Like, disgusting. Do not do that here. Like, not in this thing. We love, we love when you market things. Not now. This is not what this is about.
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This is about building long-term relationships with people you care about. So just writing them a note in an email works, but make it personal. You're not sending out a mass email to, like, the 50 readers.
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That's what's really important. It's personal, right? It's to each person. You can send folks in your life a holiday card. It doesn't have to be of your family.
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It could be an author holiday card with the books you published, right? Be whatever you're comfortable with. Um, but holiday cards are really cute. They're awesome.
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I feel like as a society we've stopped sending them as much, which gives you even more of an advantage to actually send a holiday card, um, because, like, it's just another way to stick out in people's minds.
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'Cause again, like, when someone has an opportunity, when someone has something, you want them to be thinking about you. So how do you say...
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And just like you want your readers thinking about you when they want a book, right? It's the same thing, which is why you could do this for your readers, right? Sending them a holiday card.
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The oth- other one is sending, like, people a gift book through Amazon or the re- retail site you think they'll enjoy.
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I think this is less good for readers, mind you, but way better for, like, industry partners, authors.
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Um, something that I did was, like, sending top creators, like, business books that, like, I thought they'd like, and I was very happy to recommend a few very famous people Fans First, and they loved it.
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Um, I was like, "Ooh, yes." I, I... You know, infecting the message, uh, to, to more people. It's a great message. I love that book. Uh, Fans First is, like, a top five book for me all time. But
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the last kind of thing you could do, like the, the kind of, like, really custom stuff is, like, sending them wine, chocolates, flowers, like another special gift.
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I, I would call this, like, high cost, like VIP, and I don't think you need to feel pressure to do this. Um, you should only be doing this if you have the money and you're making this from your business, right?
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Like, if you're telling me, "Michael, I have not made any profit from my author business this year," great. Send everyone a personal thank you email. You should do that. There's no reason not to do that.
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If you've made some money and you have a little bit to give away, um, 'cause you're not doing this with any ask in return, holiday cards are very effective. You can send out a lot pretty cost-effectively.
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Like, you know, we're talking, you know, about a dollar a person when you count in, like, mail and, and, you know, the actual printing. It's, it's not that much. All- Stamp, exactly. Stamps are cheap.
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Then, you know, gift book is where we start to get not too pricey, but, like, I, I care about you. Wine and chocolates is, like, a lot more. But money doesn't correlate to impact. That's the really biggest thing here.
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And that's where step three comes in, which is including a personalized note for everyone, is the most important part. Like, you want to write-What they mean to you. Doesn't have to be long either.
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Like three sentences could go such a long way, but it's three sentences that actually mean something and that come from your heart, right?
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So this is just huge, and it's, it's a marketing kind of hack because it's weird to like view it like this, but you are your business
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and the relationships people have with you is kind of what you have at the end of the day. Like if everything else goes away, that's what you have. So investing in that is paramount. Now,
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switching to, uh, I think a quicker superpower, uh, 'cause, 'cause this one's, this one's pretty easy to grasp but it's really important.
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And I literally like just with David right now, um, he was sharing me about, a bit about his business, and he incorporated like his like second payment option where people could pay monthly for ScareMail rather than just once upfront.
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He hasn't seen a difference in conversion to the, you know, annual upfront option. That same number of people are choosing that, and he's now just getting net new customers choosing monthly.
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So he's just getting extra revenue every day, which brings me to superpower or bonus superpower number five, which is multiple payment options. This is when you give readers multiple ways to pay for the same thing.
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I'm gonna say that again. It's when you give readers multiple ways to pay for the same thing, and you increase conversions and result in more income for you, and this happens 100% of the time.
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This happens 100% of the time. Literally. Like I... Are you... It's not gonna get, it's not gonna 10X your income. I wanna be very clear about the expectations here. But can it increase your income by 20%, by a third?
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Yes. If you're making $10 a month, maybe not as interesting. If you're making $100 a month, cool. $1,000 a month, very cool. $10,000 a month, really, really cool, right?
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Once you understand this concept though, it's leverage that scales with you, right? Because the power of this concept scales with you as your business grows. Now, what does this actually look like, right?
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Like, how do we actually do this? So I'm gonna give you some recommendations, and the first thing that you really wanna think about is from your reader's experience,
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how, with each payment option, can you make it an awesome experience for them, right? These payment options are for their convenience, for their financial convenience, which is a real thing.
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We always talk about making things convenient, you know, usability-wise, make it easy to click on this, make it easy to get this shipped to you, make it easy to download the book. That's convenience.
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That's really important. We also, you know, do talk about making things affordable generally in terms of like convenient price-wise. We don't wanna charge $1,000 for a book.
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Generally, that's not an amazing idea unless you have a specific marketing strategy behind it. I will never say it's a bad idea. Um, but likewise,
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there's really four key ways to actually have people pay, and then I'll talk about payment gateways. They're both very similar concepts.
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But in terms of ways people can pay for things, you can have someone pay upfront for future products. You might be like, "That is, that's crazy. Like, why would anyone wanna do that? I would never do that."
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Well, right, but you might be paying another way, and this person who wants to pay upfront deserves to be served, and they exist out there. They are out there. Now, what would be the benefit for paying upfront?
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It's gonna be a discount, right? You're gonna get a discount. You're, you're gonna wanna bulk up, right? Whatever that bulk order looks like. A bulk order for a series might be looking a little different.
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But if you already... Again, use this one with caution, people.
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But if you have planned four or five books in a series, know it's coming out, but books three through five aren't coming out for another year, why can't a reader pay $25 for the whole series right now today? Why not?
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They definitely can, and if they do, that's more money in your pocket today, and then you have to analyze what is cash worth to you today versus cash tomorrow. What does that mean for your advertising?
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Does that make you more profitable faster? Does it help you scale faster, right? These are ways to think about it, but there's so much creativity here. Then there's installments.
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We, we talk a lot about subscriptions, or at least I have in, in the past, but installments are equally powerful, which is when you have someone pay for something over time, but it's not a recurring payment necessarily.
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That's not gonna go on forever. They don't have to cancel it. But it's, "Hey, that, that special edition book box was $100. But now you can pay for it over five months for $30 a month." Notice, notice that though.
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They're actually paying more for the privilege to do installments. So you're making more revenue per customer when someone chooses an installment. Now, you know, you, you wanna pick what percentage makes sense.
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I've seen people do anywhere from double for installments to 20% extra to nothing extra for an installment. My general, you know, advice
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is to do somewhere between 25% and 100%, and what's really interesting is when you do an installment too or something of that nature, the behavior it incentivizes.
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So let's say you have a product that would normally be an installment, um, like a book series. Um, right? And I'm gonna pay five... This is where you get to have these te- pricing strategies work over time.
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Uh, a series effectively is, like although it's à la carte, it effectively is an installment. So I could pay $5 for each book, or I could pay $20 upfront. Maybe there's eight books in the series, right?
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You've now incentivized someone to give you that $20 upfront if that's what you want, right? Um, and that, that's what doing that 100%, you know, would, would lead to, right?
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Where people are really only gonna choose that payment plan or that installment plan if they like really, if that's really convenient for them, the breaking it up.
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Versus if it's 15 or 20%, you might have some people who would pay in full right now who are gonna divide it in installments. And then you have to think, "Okay, I might be increasing my-...
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conversions, but I also might be decreasing my cash up front. So what does that look like for my business? Can I handle that?
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You know, in the long run you're gonna make more money almost certainly doing any of these strategies. But you wanna pencil it out for yourself. And this is napkin math. This is not spreadsheet calculator time.
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This is literally, okay, if 10 customers buy a book, um, a book series upfront for $25 versus they could pay me for the special edition book, you know. Well, let's say let's talk special editions, keep it simple.
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The special edition's $100. They could pay the special edition upfront $100 in my pocket, or they can pay for it, you know, $25 over six months. Um, okay, well, basically in month one, you could do the math.
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If you're gonna get 25 to 30% more people, more people buying your books in net, then how much would have to go to the payment plan for you to make less money up front, right?
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Like, that's the calculation you're running here. It, it's very, it's, it's, it's simple napkin math and you just have to think like, "Hmm, this could work." So again, you don't have to get too scientific with it.
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I love playing around with the data and the numbers and simulating conversions. It's fun for me. For you, it might not be as fun, but the concept is so simple.
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Give your customers multiple ways to pay, and there's even more options here. There's micropayments.
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What if someone wants to pay for sections of a story, for sections of a chapter, for a blog post, for a character, um, you know, interview, for bonus art, right?
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Um, there's things like Supertab code that are making this easier, um, where supertab.co, that's the website, literally just makes like micropayments super easy.
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There's other sites out there, there's other like direct sales things that you can use too. What Supertab does is it decreases the payment processing fee, so you keep more of your revenue.
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And they do that by like creating a tab that like adds up all the readers' tabs over time, these mini payments, and then charges it at once.
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It's kind of cool, um, because part of why micropayments have been challenging in the past is because of how high payment processing fees are on them. And that's a perfect segue into
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you wanna give readers multiple ways to pay you. Not just multiple ways to pay you in terms of plan options and installment plans and monthly and all that, but actually giving them multiple ways to physically pay you.
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Like, I understand like taking cash on the internet's probably prohibitive. Um, that doesn't make a ton of sense, although you could technically have your readers pay you by mailing you in cash.
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Again, that probably doesn't make much sense. But are you available if you're selling direct on Stripe? Are you available on PayPal?
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If you're doing a, a retailer, the retailers probably already handle this for the most part, but you'd be shocked at how many countries you're only using Stripe that like
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Stripe is not available in, and that you'll wanna be using PayPal, and then vice versa, right, where people prefer Stripe. Um, those are the two big payment gateways. I don't wanna overcomplicate things.
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It's basically if you're selling direct, make sure you're using both. If you're using Shop Pay through Shopify, make sure that you have Stripe and PayPal set up. Those are the two major payment gateways.
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You're leaving money on the table, not an insane amount, but probably 5 to 10%, maybe more, by not doing that. And one last piece of advice I'll give here,
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'cause I'm real- I guess I'm really passionate about this topic for some reason, is, uh, paying for like lifetime access, uh, to a series is a really good thing.
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Like, getting lifetime access to a series or to your content to like actually be able to support you. Um, I, I have a case study on this Supercast.
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Uh, there's, um, these two like political commentators, um, Crystal and Cigar. Uh, they run Breaking Points. Um, it's an independent media outlet, mostly on YouTube. They have a podcast as well.
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And they basically gave an option where you could get a lifetime access to all of their like paywalled content for like $1,000. And they had about, I think it was something around like 1% choose that option,
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but it made their launch day. Like, that was like half the revenue on launch day was that, um, which is pretty wild, 'cause when they launched, their subscription was a very big like launch for...
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They got- they were using, um, this audio subscription platform. Um, Supercast is pretty wild. So anyways, um, I can share case studies all day long. I think y'all get the point.
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Uh, experiment with how you can increase the options readers can pay you, both in physically how they can pay you through payment gateways, and the options to pay for your product. Um, and think through readers first.
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You don't wanna screw someone over. You literally want to think about, "Wow, that would be cool, like dividing that payment up. I'd pay a little bit more, but it's reasonable, it's great."
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Or again, you're the business owner, you actually, vice versa, wanna give someone a reasonable payment rate if they wanna pay a monthly plan, but give someone a discount if they're paying up front for everything. Great.
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The psychology of this is all the same. You get to incentivize whatever you want in your business, depending on what cash you want now versus cash later, et cetera.
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And my advice generally is cash now is a lot more valuable than cash later in any business. So prioritize for that in your options. Now, um, last, next, not last, not even close to last, we're gonna talk about content
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hacking, and I love this one. Uh, it's, it's, it's fun.
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So I have a few superpowers I, that we go over in the 50 Author Marketing Superpower decks that talk about like how to see, see things that are trending and be able to improve, you know, what you're doing based on that.
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This is not that. Content hacking is specifically looking outside of your niche, outside of books even, and to see like what content is just doing well generally on social media, and then using
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that to discover patterns and make our content better.
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I can't even tell you like so much of like how big creators get their ideas and go viral is studying what's working well in other niches, sometimes even in different countries as well.
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Because like these core human psychology principles like-Oftentimes, like there are very much cultural differences, but there's also a lot shared, right? In every experience.
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So how you actually do this practically, this one's simple, I kept this one really simple, is you want to see what content is over-performing what I call, and many people call, I shouldn't say me as if I come up with this, I did not, um, outliers, um, for creators across social platforms.
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You want to find outliers. What is an outlier? So, uh, I'll give you an example. Like, uh, uh, MrBeast, like his videos all are outliers.
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It's very hard to say if one of his videos does remarkably better than the last, at least to a public viewer. Um, because it's like, okay, every video gets like two hundred million views, right? So, like that's insane.
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But if we're looking at other creators, right, um, you'll see that most creators have very few videos that make up most of their views.
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Like, everyone you see who's famous has a few things that made them famous, and that includes authors too, by the way. And, uh, what you want to study is, okay, so this TikToker has five hundred thousand followers.
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Well, which ones popped off? Like, if you go to Willow Winters on TikTok, you'll see like she's not just going viral every video. She has a few videos that made her really, really big.
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She's done a lot that done well, but she has a few that made her real big. Those are your outliers.
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Ones that get ten x, twenty x, thirty x, sometimes it's only three to five x, but it's multiple times more than the average views on a specific social media channel.
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And what's really interesting is you can look across different niches, like in education, like what titles are getting people going, in like business, what people are clicking on different science education videos, what people are clicking on different challenge videos, on comedy videos.
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Like what is getting people to click where they're coming into a video ten x more than your average video from that creator? Bang, that's your winner, right? That's something you want to study.
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And what you want to then see is patterns. And you have to do this too systematically. This literally just looks like you scrolling through your phone,
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taking the social media time you're already spending, because I promise you're on social media.
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If you're not, you're awesome, this video probably not for you because it's probably not worth infecting your mind with all of that just for this one superpower when there's fifty-nine others.
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But if you're already on social media, like the average American, the average American spends four hours a day.
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And if you're actually doing that, just take note of what you're watching and actually try and do the research. Click into their profiles. See like why did this pop off? And
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with that becomes something really powerful because you get to replicate those strategies, replicate those hooks to your same-- to your own viewers. Because every ad is getting someone to click on something.
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So whatever psychological tactic gets someone to click on something for a different niche, repurpose the language, repurpose the strategy for your own niche. It works. This is what the top creators do. It works.
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And for, for proof on that, actually, MrBeast built View Stats, which was an internal software spun out that anyone can use now, and they have a free account you can create. There's a paid version.
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I don't recommend upgrading to the paid version for authors. It's not worth it. But the free version talks about outliers.
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He talks about outliers all the time, and he like created this algorithm that like helps you see different outliers in YouTube, so you can actually assign videos outlier scores and then study different outliers in the platform.
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It's like only the thing that like Jimmy would get into, but it's like super cool, and it's just a great way to look at it. Like that is how you hack it.
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You have to see what's doing well and jump on those trends and adapt it to, going back to our first bonus superpower here, you know, your audience, right? And your interests and your readers.
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Going back to like the book doctor one, going back to the story shifter, like building on that, how do you now make something go viral for them? Okay, great. We're on to the next one now. This one is, uh, fun.
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I, I've talked about this a bit in the past. Um, but author debt is, uh, more of a concept rather than something you could take as like something actionable, like right now grow your business, and more something that
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I think about when I'm going, "Where should I invest my time?" But it's just the concept that if you had all the relationships, knowledge, and experience you needed to be successful, you would be. Right?
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Like if you knew everything to do, why wouldn't you? And, and, and then the only question would be like, are you just not doing it? Uh, but if you're doing it, then that's the only question, right?
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So paying down your author debt, 'cause this isn't literal debt, is how do you accrue these lessons, relationships, and knowledge as fast as possible, and do it in a way that's efficient, that doesn't require you going into other forms of debt and money out of pocket and all these things, right?
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So, uh, oh, skipped a slide. So [laughs] the three kinds of author debt are ignorance debt, friendship debt, and practice debt.
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And I, I'll s- The first two I'm going to breeze through, 'cause the one most of you here in this call, most of you here watching this are going to be struggling with is the third one, and I want to empower you to, to go for it.
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But ignorance debt is if you knew everything you need to make a hundred K a year selling books, right? It would be a lot easier to do that. We-- This is knowledge.
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We pay that down by watching podcast videos, reading books, doing fun things like this. I hope this is fun. If it's not fun, sorry, but you could do things like this and hopefully learn. Okay, great.
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If you're here, you're already learning a lot. Okay? I, I know you. I know the t- You're probably a high learner in, in your CliftonStrengths, right? It might be a top five for you if you're here.
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I'd say there's a decent odds. If it's not a top five for you, you're still here, you're still learning. You're paying down your ignorance debt right now. Number one. Love it, Jocelyn. Yes, that's it, right?
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It-- So that's great. That's amazing to be a high learner. I also, I actually don't think I'm top five learner, or maybe I, I forgot, like it's somewhere. But I'm, I'm to- I'm number one futurist. That's my big thing.
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And then activator, those are my two big things. And then achiever, whatever. Um, anyways, uh, I, I'm very action-oriented, which I guess is why I'm gonna show, show you this last one. So friendship debt, right?
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I'll, I'll breeze through this. It's pretty simple. If you n- If everyone around you was headed on an amazing trajectory, it would make it a lot easier for you to get there. Notice trajectory here.
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I'm not telling you you have to be friends with like seven-figure authors. I'm, I'm very lucky.
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I'm very privileged that I have a lot of like-Amazing, like, creator friends who do insane things I couldn't even imagine doing.
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Um, I'm very, I'm very lucky, but you don't necessarily have to be, like, personal friends and be able to call, you know, a millionaire author on speed dial.
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Like, like, that's great if that's your friend, and that might be your friend one day, but that's the key point. That might be your friend one day. How you get there is by being around people who are going places.
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David and me just started off as great friends. He was... had a day job. I was in college. He's a great guy. He's very talented. He's very smart. I knew he was going places.
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He's here now in a really, really cool spot, you know, having a multi-million dollar year story- story letter business. Um,
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when you also do cool things, we'll talk about some practice debt, when you have that trajectory where people can see you taking action, it makes it easier for you to surround yourself with the right people.
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But it's just so important to not ever think about people where I need to be with someone who knows it all. You don't. You... That's not what friendship debt's about.
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Friendship debt's not about being with someone who knows it all to help you pay off your enormous debt. Yeah, I can help. It's about being with someone who's going the places that you want to be.
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Someone that inspires you. I mean, that's what life's about, right? Someone like that, it's so huge. How you can find this is being a genuine and good person who helps others. That's the number one thing by far.
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Yeah, you can start a small group mastermind with like-minded authors that meet once a month. I see Willow's been popping in and out here. Willow does that with the Buggos. It's awesome. Willow's a great human being.
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So she's already, you know, she's doing that. You could join other things. You don't have to start it. You can meet new authors at meetups and Facebook groups and at conferences. Like, all these things you could do.
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But just being a good and genuine person is the biggest thing. Like, if it's... If I were to sum it up in one sentence, play long-term games with long-term people. That's it.
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Now, let's go to the last one, which is where, like, we probably need the most TLC, right, which is practice debt, which is if you are constantly learning and improving through practice, it would make it much easier for you to succeed, right?
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Constantly learning and improving. This doesn't mean succeeding. Constantly learning and improving through practice. Constantly learning and improving through practice. A, a lot of us are great at building relationships.
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A lot of us are great at learning. I find that a lot of us struggle to pair that with action, right? And if we don't pair that with action, all of our learning goes to waste. All of our learning goes to waste.
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That course you took on Facebook ads, useless if you don't start running them. I'm not telling you go run Facebook ads, but I'm telling you if you took a course on it, okay,
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worthwhile now considering why you spent the time learning it if you're not going to go do it, because most of the learning comes through action. Most of the learning comes through that.
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Yes, I've read some excellent books. I love reading. Reading's like one of my favorite things to do. Uh, I will never say no to knowledge. But at the same vein, I will... I, I hate getting dragged down by knowledge.
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Like, my first priority is to take action, to get things done rather than to learn, because I know I'm going to learn just as much through practice, if not sometimes more, than through knowledge. And don't get me wrong.
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You want to stand on the shoulders of giants. You want to get people's perspective. You want to have great friends. All that's so important. But here's how you get out of practice debt.
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You just take one small step forward every day, especially for us learners and people who, like me, are futurists. Um, we can really, really get caught up in, like, all the things. All the things. All the things, right?
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And I, I get it 'cause I can get that way myself. Um, I'm, I'm high activator, which makes it easy for me to just, we're gonna get things done now, right? We're gonna go into it.
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If you're not a high activator, that might not be as natural for you, and I understand that. But it's really important to get it, get it done. Set goals.
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Hold yourself accountable to making progress, and track your progress with data. Are you actually moving the needle towards your goals? Like, so oftentimes we set the wrong goal.
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Like, is your goal to write the next book or is it to make money? Now, that's, that's not a question that's supposed to lead you one way or the other. That's an honest question you have to ask yourself.
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Is my goal to write this next book or is it to grow my business to make money? Or is it another goal entirely?
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Whatever your goal is, the goal, the actual goal that you have, not I want to do Facebook ads, I want to do this, I want to grow. That's not your goal. Your goal is to do one thing, really. You want to achieve one thing.
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Whatever your goal is, you're practicing to get towards that, and you want to make sure you're getting towards that. Paradoxically, when we actually zone in on that, a lot of the things we do
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don't actually get us closer to our goals, and that includes our learning. It includes sometimes our friendships, but candidly, don't just cut out all your learning, all your friendships. It's fun to learn, and it's...
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You need to have people in your life who are going to get you closer to your goals. Like, that's unbelievably insane. But one thing that isn't insane is cutting out the practice not getting you closer to your goals.
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That is not insane. Why are you wasting your time doing these things? So you want to get really clear about your goal, and one mistake, the biggest mistake I see authors make, is thinking that
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the one way to get closer to their goal is to keep writing. If it's to keep writing, yes. But if it's to grow your business, that's not always the next thing you need to do.
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It might be really validating you can sell something first before you write. It might be really zoning in your audience. Whatever it is, it might not be writing that next book.
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You spending all your time writing the next book might be the thing holding you back from your goal.
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So you want to practice, you want to track, and get closer to where you want to be, and ultimately surround yourself with people who have similar goals. Likewise, like,
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if you're surrounded by friends who all want to make a living writing, and their real goal is to make money from this, and you just want to write that next book, that might not be the best group of friends for you.
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Not because any group is better than the other, because you want to be people... You want to be around people on a trajectory that you align with, right? That's important.
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You don't have to think the same things, believe the same things, but you want to share similar dreams. Okay, that was a long enough rant.
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So this next one is the only one that doesn't have a back, which maybe you're grateful for at this stage because it's been a lot of info, and I know. I, I believe we're on card number eight now,
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but it might be seven of our bonus marketing superpowers. I should have given these numbers, but-Who, who needs them? We're, we're diving in. So epic reader magnets. Um, it's eight. Cynthia, thank you.
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Um, I was like, "We're seven or eight?" I'm just in the zone right now. So epic reader magnets are my kind of...
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So I, I have a superpower on freebies and giveaways, and y- yeah, some of the superpowers you'll see, there's probably like 10 to 15 that I, I think are like, okay, like these are helpful reminders for a lot of you, but probably nothing new.
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The freebies and giveaway one is one of those like helpful reminder ones, I think is like good from a First Pencil perspective, but it's probably nothing new.
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Epic reader magnets is where I like want you to push the boundary, right? Here's one of our biggest problems. When we think about marketing, this is a great thing. There's a lot of marketing advice online.
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There's a lot of advice about how to build funnels, a lot of advice about how to reach readers, so it's kind of commoditized, right? The free X thing that we've all seen, the free
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give me your email and I'll give you a novella. Give me your email, and you get this, like bonus epilogue thing. How many times have we seen that? A lot. How many times have you signed up for it? Probably not a lot.
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How can you create an offer, an epic reader magnet that actually makes you stand out? 'Cause here's what an epic reader magnet does. It helps convert to your freebie at a high rate and, right?
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'Cause they're gonna give you their email more often, and because it's so epic, they're also gonna give you more money afterwards 'cause you're gonna build more trust. So
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as, as many of you know, I have the podcast, Beyond the Book, and that's where like I always try and like help authors expand their ideas about what they think is possible, but I wanna be a little bit meta here and talk about what this
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deck thing is. I'm, I'm gonna share a, the, a little bit more publicly in like the Big Pencil party a little bit more behind like really what's happening, in a good way. There's no secret master plan.
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It's a very simple plan. But I was imagining to myself, I could give a really good knowledge to people, just like you can create a really good story for people, right?
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That's going to really entertain and help your readers, just like I wanna entertain and help you all.
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But the thing about it is how many times has someone told you, "Sign up for my mailing list and I'll give you this item how to make money doing X or grow your audience doing Y"? We've all seen it before.
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We've all seen it before, and I could, you know, try and pretend like I found the new hack to growing your author business, but I haven't. I wish I did.
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But I do have something valuable to share, just like you probably have a valuable story to share, right? So now we're thinking about it and we're like, "Well, what do we do?"
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And I started looking at things like pip decks. I started studying the entire card market. Every card that's sold on Kickstarter I've looked at, and I was like, "There's something here."
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And there's, you know, other authors who've done really awesome cards for other authors, like Renee Rose. She has a great romance card. Um, it's like really cool, Romance Versus The World.
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It's actually technically for readers, but it's, it's epic. And then Becca Syme had her stuck list cards, and there's more. There's like writer, the writer emergency cards.
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There's like a lot of stuff out there that have been done for authors, but there hasn't been anything done specifically on marketing that's also four-by-six-inch cards, so bigger, with like super focused on like basically turning
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what could have just been a series of 50 blog posts into 50 awesome cards that are quick, bite-sized, but pack a ton of punch, right? And I thought, "This is a much better reader magnet that's for free, right?
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That I can now give away to get people to build trust in me in what I'm doing."
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I might be wrong, mind you, but I'm at least trying to show you that I'm, I'm trying to use these own superpowers in what I'm doing, and you can do the same thing, right?
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It's about looking at something that already exists, adapting to what you're doing, and how can you use that to make your story stand out? Because then someone goes, "I've never gotten something like this for free."
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You know, you go into the store. How many times do you go to the grocery store and it's like, "Okay, yeah, they have the new cheese sample that's free. Okay." Maybe you're more excited.
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Um, but here's the new free cheese sample, but then all of a sudden, you know, they turn that cheese into a free cheesecake sample, and it goes out in five minutes. There's no stale cheese at the end of the day.
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Like cheesecake sells out, right? What's your version of turning cheese into cheesecake? I'm not telling you to turn water into wine. Cheese into cheesecake here, it's a little bit more simple.
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How you do this is innovating on your story's medium, right? I'm turning this story that could have existed in a blog post and turning it into card, cards, right? That simple. That's it. It's...
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I mean, yes, that medium when you do that isn't just that simple. It means you need to create something for that medium, the illustrations, and make it awesome, but that's part of being creative and what makes it fun.
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It can be the actual genre and audience you're targeting. No one's... You're, you're, you've created the first freebie.
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You know, I don't have the secret to getting rich as an author, so I didn't wanna say I have the, the new thing, but you might have the new thing in your story. You might have the new,
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"Oh my God, no one's done this before. No one's written a serial killer novel for people who love baseball." I'm sure they have, but this one's free, right? Whatever. Right? What's your in where people are going, "Wow"?
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Um, is it something where the, the freebie isn't quite what we'd think of as a freebie at all? Maybe it's an invite to something. It's an invite to an online event they're able to attend.
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It's an invite to a key that has something inside that's, you know, your character's interacting in there.
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Maybe it's an invite to a serialized email that's a story, like a story challenge that comes over five days where they're hearing from a character, and it's coming through their email, and they're like, "Oh my God, like it's like this character's personally reaching out to me with updates in their life.
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This is cool," right? "I've, I haven't seen this before." But again, now you're making that story custom to that medium. That's really important. You're not just repackaging it.
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You're actually saying, "What does it look like if I wrote a story through email, and my freebie was an ac- email or a story delivered through email?"
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Which is the big mistake we all make, right, is we try and make something unique, but we don't actually stay honest to that medium and really go all in. So go all in, and create something epic.
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Now-My ninth one thank you for reminder, Cynthia. My ninth one, uh, my ninth bonus marketing superpower. Remember, this is not stuff I'm gonna be sharing.
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You know, I, I might touch on these things in podcasts, but this is not like superpowers I'm sharing publicly. I wanted to keep this for all of y'all.
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Um, and this one I think is particularly dangerous 'cause I talked a lot about doing collaborations, but I don't honestly sometimes talk about what that really means.
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And sometimes I'll talk about creators or doing swaps, but this is the most powerful way to do a collaboration. Okay? And, and collaborations are a really great way to grow your business.
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Like, you don't have to create content, you don't have to run paid ads. You can collaborate with other people and grow your audience.
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And the best way to collaborate with other people to grow your audience is through story ambassadors. Story ambassadors are the people who will share your book far and wide for you, right? These are your ambassadors, and
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you're going to reward them for literally selling your books and products for you. Like, you're gonna turn them into your marketing force. Um, now this, this feels like, come on, that's, that's crazy.
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But look what authors do with their street teams. Story ambassadors are even trying to take street teams to the next level 'cause I, I don't think street teams go far enough. Here's what I mean.
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Again, sorry for the small text, I tried to keep it on one slide to like keep the card format. I realize that's not as cute when we're all here together.
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But I'll, again, send you a PDF so you have it all, and you can copy and paste this, download this all for yourself. But, uh, I'll, I'll give you my riff in here, so, 'cause y'all are here, and that's what makes it fun.
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So I have a few rules about what makes a great ambassador program that if you follow, you're golden. And I think a lot of times we see these authors with like the 10,000-person street team, whatever.
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There's authors who have this, which is awesome by the way. Like, I love you, but like that is so disempowering for someone getting started. Like, thank you for letting me know I can market myself with a street team.
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Now I just have to like... Yeah, these can be super fans. Exactly, Devin. Like, like this ambassador army can be your super fans. That's exactly what it really is. You want a smaller
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tight-knit group of ambassadors, right? That's better than a large disconnected one. So you want tight-knit group. 5 people is better than 50 people who are not tight-knit.
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That, that does look like building people who are emotionally connected to your brand, not just economically they want to go out and sell books.
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It's not bad to offer someone money, but it's just as good to offer them other prizes, gifts. And you wanna really treat your ambassadors like real people and try and actually build individual relationships with them.
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Doesn't mean you have to be on the phone with them or a video call, but over an email like they know that you're a real person behind the story and you're trying to build a relationship with them.
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Now, again, you're thinking, "Well, this sounds a lot like a super fan." You're right, Devin. It, it is a lot like a super fan. But there's one key difference, which is you're actually
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deliberately working with this group of super fans, which doesn't have to be a large group of super fans, to mobilize them. It's an active thing. Like, they believe in what you're doing.
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I'm gonna touch on this in my last superpower. They all connect. But they believe in what you're doing and want to share it with the world, right? So step number one is to create a form
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for someone to like apply to be an ambassador, right? You don't want just anyone to be an ambassador.
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You want to make it exclusive and make sure you're bringing the right people in who are actually passionate about what you're doing 'cause you don't just want people who are trying to like get a free book or make a quick buck.
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Like, that's not what this is about. That's not even a good use of time. Like it's a, just a bad idea if someone's coming into it with that.
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Step number two is that you want to accept the best applicants, right, the ones that you feel like will be best in your space, and create a space for you all to chat.
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Again, if someone doesn't want to join the chat, that's okay. But it could be over WhatsApp, Messenger, just text where people can keep up with each other.
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Then you want to work with ambassadors for them each to have their own goal. Okay? And this is where it gets so interesting because we think of marketing as boring, right?
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So we immediately when I say this you're like, "This is crazy. No one's going to do it. This is horrible. I'm like having people do free labor for me." I'm not for any of that, okay? I'm not for any of that.
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Marketing's fun. Marketing is storytelling, and your readers want to tell stories. So why not let them empower them to tell stories about your story? Okay, now for more practical stuff.
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You want to work with each ambassador to have them have their own goal, right? In fact, in your application you should have them try and propose this type of thing.
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So you can have them host a podcast focusing on your stories. That's fun. For a fan who loves your stories, having a podcast with your stories is fun.
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You giving them the resources, which could just be your time of like insights of like, "Hey, yeah, you can call me up," or like, you know, it doesn't have to be a literal call. "You can email me or DM me," right?
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"And I can share with you your answer to that question so that you can do it in the podcast." Maybe someone wants to start a TikTok channel about reading. Some people love like making videos.
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Some people love making videos. There's millions of readers creating videos for free on TikTok, and maybe someone wants to do that for you. Maybe they even want to start a book club around your book, right?
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And mention it in different reader groups, like actually build a book club. They want to build the community. The big goal is with these ambassadors you're relinquishing control. You're letting them do their thing.
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You're not approving them. They're not contractors, none of that. These are people that you're empowering to share your story by helping them create their own stories, and you're rewarding them for it.
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It can be economic. You can attribute some sales back to them. I'm not saying no, but I, I, I like even more, right, rewarding them with just your thanks and gratitude. That goes a long way.
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But I, I'm, I'm talking like special edition books. I'm talking merch. I'm talking things that like will get these people like so fired up. They can test everything you do early and for free, right?
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But I guess the key here is encouragement and structure, right?
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And actually setting up a monthly call with people for them to all check in, for you to know what's going on, and for you to make it a priority, not just to be like, "Oh, hands off. Do your own thing."
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No, you're actually gonna stay in touch with these people because
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you want them tied in to what you're doing, and you want to be tied into what they're doing so that you can help support them and they can help support each other. And it's just wild what people will do.
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It's wild what people will do when they believe in you-Your story. Which brings us to our final superpower, our final one, our bonus one, and this is just 10 of 60 now, right?
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'Cause there's 50 more that I'll be sharing with y'all in, in the coming weeks, in the coming weeks. Um, illustrations are an ongoing process, but when readers believe they are part of something bigger, right, than them,
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you will energize their word of mouth and purchasing activities to new heights. That's why I call it wave maker, right? You're making things happen that people wonder why something, be a part of something.
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A wave is bigger than them, quite clearly. It doesn't have to be serious though, right? Like this is the thing. Like it can be, okay, but it doesn't have to be. It can be very humorous.
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Like it can be like, you know, we're just a group of- we're a group of gals who hate our day jobs and we like to kick back with wine and books at night. Like that's cool. That's a movement. That's awesome.
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Like seriously. Doesn't have to be like, we're taking down the man or we're starting a revolution. It can be. I love that too.
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I'm, I'm here for the revolution, but I'm also here for, we just wanna kick back and have some wine. Like whatever. Right? Now,
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if you can align the core transformation your characters undergo in your stories with a similar journey that you want your readers to undergo in their own lives, that is when we start to get this movement to have I think we're all in shock.
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[laughs] It was too much? Oh no. Oh no. No, no. I [laughs] that it's, it's that fire hose of all the things. Yeah. Yeah. The superpowers is very much a fire, fire hose. I think there's a lot of things- I-...
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that I'll be diving deep into for a very long time from it. Well, and I think it's also fun to go back and see, and I'm sure others felt this as well,
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what we're maybe already instinctively doing, but don't necessarily think of it as this way. It's just like something we do automatically or, or that we're alr- that we don't have like a name and a bullet point for it.
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But there were several times it's like, oh yeah, okay, I'm, I'm doing some of these. And then being able to say, "Oh, but that I wanna try." Yeah.
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And also to like lean into what superpowers you're already using more, right? Mm-hmm. To be like, oh, like-This is actually something that is already working and that like is super valid.
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And what I love about all these superpowers is you don't need to use all 10 or all 60, 'cause 50 more are coming your way. You just need to use one, right? Right.
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Like, your goal in one day when you decide to, "Hey, I'm gonna do some marketing," is to use one superpower undergirded with the entire theme of like having fun, right? Right.
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This is not- this- it's- they're called superpowers, like, it's supposed to be fun. If you're like, "Eh, that doesn't sound fun for me," like, meh, like the whole content hacking thing, if you're like...
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Honestly, it's probably something instinctive a lot of you already do. But if you're like, "Eh, no, that- I don't like that thinking about it.
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I'm just gonna like be very intuitive rather than analytical," 'cause content hacking's a more analytical approach to, you know, developing an ideation versus you can be very intuitive about it, like, there's nothing wrong with that.
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Um, but I guess what's funny about these superpowers too is like I guess I made them. You could probably come up with another 50 that are just as valid, or different ways of sharing them. I have a question- Yeah.
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Hi, Sabina... with regards, um... Oh, sorry.
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Uh, with regards to the meme marketing, are there any- 'cause this is one of my concerns is like with using images, you know, copyright issues with memes and things, especially since it's kind of a more commercial endeavor.
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Yeah. Uh, that's a great question. I mean, like, I'm- first of all say like not legal advice. I'm a lawyer, I probably should, you know, say that.
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But, uh, a lot of brands do use memes in their marketing and, um, if it's something that is being used by like a meme template and it's in there, right?
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Like, uh, if it's, if it's inside of like this meme generator, right, and it's already commonly used as one of the templates, odds are like you're gonna be fine. Um,
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I, I would be curious like what a, a intellectual property lawyer would say. Um, they might be more reticent. Um, but there are like, again, like Dakota Trout, big author, like he regularly uses memes in his marketing.
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Um, if you're worried also about like the core image and you wanna like play it safe, that's where you can upload your own images. But make 'em like similar or at least play in the same idea. Like maybe,
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maybe if it's like one, like there's one of like a grumpy cat, like that's a very common, like the grumpy cat meme. Well, maybe your cat's looking grumpy today, and that's the template you're using over a meme.
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Like, there's nothing wrong with that either. Um, I generally am like, uh, you know, I, I like to have fun and be experimental with marketing.
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Uh, but it, it should be noted there's a lot of people who are fun and experimental with marketing, um, but can get themselves in like, you know, legal trouble. I've, I've had friends that get into issues with that.
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Not in like nefarious ways, but like, "Oh, I should not have used that song in my marketing," right? Like, that was a mistake. Um, so yeah. Do be careful about that.
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Um, it depends on like your tolerance for it, how you're u- you know, how you're planning to use it. You know, one thing is like if you're using a meme to target a genre or like another author's book,
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I think that's like way more appropriate and has way less risk than like your actual book. It also matters where you're distributing it.
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Like in your existing reader group, if you have a meme in there, it's, it's probably not gonna get you the distribution you're looking for, but, you know, it, it, it... Right?
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Like it's, it, there's- context is everything. Great question. I'm glad, Tracy, you have a few things you can act on right away. That makes me happy. Um,
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with, um, the scare mail, that really inspired me and I was trying to figure out a way to do something similar, but not like a puzzle, and I've included it in my Kickstarter as like a test run, uh,
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to build the super fans to the idea of what you call the ambassadors already started like playing in my mind with the inspiration of the scare mail. My only concern is when I go to switch from
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high fantasy to a steampunk fantasy, 'cause that's going to be my next series, the slow transition to get them to stay with me on that. Well,
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so there's a few things you could do. Like if you're experimenting with this beyond the book, um, activities, you could create, um... Like
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i- if you're experimenting with a puzzle, for instance, if like you were to send out like a few puzzle pieces with a story, right?
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There's this world where like the puzzles can combine together to create a larger puzzle, right?
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Like, the, the puzzles tell a story in and of itself, and that seems small and minimal, but something like that can hook someone into like getting that next book because even if it's a new series jump, they're like, "Oh, like I gotta complete what I got here.
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Like, I'm still, I'm still in the middle of this." You could hook 'em in that way. The other thing I would do is, um,
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you know, especially that first book, 'cause once you get them through the first book, right, like you're- you'll be probably good through the rest of the series,
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is like talk with them through the process as you're writing it. Especially like those super fans who are backing you on Kickstarter. Invite them into it and like try and like get their excitement and like stoke it.
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Like, see like, like when you're stoking a flame, like see where that spark is. See what they're, they're excited by and like lean into that as you're con- you're talking about it more.
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So I think it's like being open in your process rather than, "Oh, here's like another like slightly like..." You know, it's not like a total genre pivot, but it's slightly different, and just plopping it on them.
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They're gonna be like, "Where did this come from?" You know, "We wanted more of this."
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But then you're like, "No, no, I, I've been actually building this relationship with you and sharing you through this process this whole way."And you're pumped about it.
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But I, I love to like, yeah, being able to connect things across stories and like little Easter eggs, like are a great way to tie super fans together. Like the puzzle was like a kind of a proxy.
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I should have been more clear for like Easter eggs. So like Easter eggs can really go a long way, um, and that's another way to, to do it.
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Like in fact, another Easter egg that's really simple, it doesn't involve anything physical or too complex, um, is like the concept of a character cameo or like a character in one series.
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Again, this could break series convention or rules in your world, so like I don't wanna...
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You know, and, and not a solution for everyone, but if you're able to integrate a character from one series into the other that's making an appearance and you're able to highlight that, again, for these people to bring them from one series to another,
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that can be a thing that ties together. It doesn't have to be a main character, it doesn't have to be part of the story in any sort of significant way. It can be even a backstory, like just somehow they spawned in.
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That's also a way that I love to think about doing author collaborations as well.
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Um, again, it doesn't work in every world, it doesn't work all the time, but you know, if Marvel and DC can have their characters collab, I think we can have ours too. Jocelyn?
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Reader magnets. Epic reader magnets. Oh, okay, good. So [laughs] I can tell you're on it. Good.
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[laughs] So I have in mind my n- my current reader magnet is a 40 years before, it's a 40-year historical prequel to book one, and it's, it's, it's laying the groundwork for the political
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situation and the, um, antagonists, and what does this world look like 40 years before the current protagonist comes stomping in? Right.
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And within that, um, prequel, I introduce a secondary character who is like the supernatural anthropologist, the supernatural Indiana Jones type who's writing letters, researching supernatural things.
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And one of my bonuses on my email list is that readers can subscribe to that character's, uh, email list and get her talking and get her...
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They're written from in character point of view where she's sending emails about the research she's doing. And so one of the things I was thinking about for a reader magnet is putting together like her notebook,
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and having it be like you're getting a copy of the notebook she's written with this information, which is really the world book, but it's from her perspective with her sketches and her notes and, you know, m- notes in the margins cro- So it looks like an actual like, you know, a field book of somebody who's in the, um, out in the field researching these things.
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Now, you say like, and I totally agree with you, we get caught into well, just write like the 10-page book, just write like, you know, or the little story or whatnot and put it up on Book Funnel and everybody subscribes to it.
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W- h- is that like... That doesn't seem... I, I don't know, and this is where I'm thinking I'm gonna try it because I'm really curious because I don't see things like that on Book Funnel.
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I, that, it almost feels to me like a whole other project. Yeah. Well, um, n- it's not gonna like work in the swap ecosystem. No. No. But how I'm thinking about already is from a different lens. You are creating, I...
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It's another superpower, but, uh, I call it book liquidator, but it's, it's more commonly in internet marketing called like a self-liquidating offer.
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But the, the whole goal is this: when you, you know, drive paid traffic towards a landing page, sign up for their email, this would presumably be on your own website, and you could just deliver it- Right...
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through email, right? It doesn't matter how you... You could use Book Funnel to deliver it through email, but it doesn't, it's not like you're using the Book Funnel ecosystem, like that's not the goal.
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The goal is paid ad traffic. The hardest part about that is like, well,
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I'm like, like I'm now spending a bunch of money out of pocket to get emails, and great, I'll make the money back later, but how do I afford that now? And self-liquidating offer turns that on its head and it says, "Hey,
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you're gonna actually upsell them after they give their email and make your money back." Right. And I think you've just created a perfect upsell. I'll share why. I have the digital...
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And again, I think the design that you're doing is really important. You're marketing this as
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a, like it's really almost like instead of a book, 'cause you can, you can read a book or you can read a diary or a journal, whatever you wanna do it, like a diary could be it, right?
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Um, so like there's this diary that still gives you a complete arc, awesome story, but includes all these awesome bonuses. Don't you want a diary to get inside a character like that? Mm-hmm. Well, if you do,
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you get it for free digitally. Great. Download it. Well, don't you want it physical too? Mm-hmm. That's the next page. Upsell 'em.
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And what I'd look for is how much can you get an email for, what's that conversion rate, and how can you equal it out where you make all of your money back?
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'Cause then you can scale your ads like crazy and know that any book you sell after that is fully profit off the, the, the emails, right? So you've designed a really interesting funnel. The question is will it work?
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Right. But that's how I'd be thinking about it.
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That's like when a reader magnet goes from epic to completely killer, and you have the framework for it because you have the upsell embedded into that digital thing, which is beautiful.
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And you'll notice like literally that is what I'm doing here too. Um, definitely. So like that is the entire thing. And math it out, um, where you're able to get that money back, right?
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So like, oh, maybe you're able to get an email for 40 cents, right, at scale maybe.Okay, well how much can convert to the paid offer? Is it 2%?
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All right, well then that means, and we're gonna do the math here, 50 times 0.4, we got 20 bucks. So then we got to make 20 bucks in profit from whatever that upsell is on average to cover the ad cost.
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That's not easy, but a special journal diary that is printed for eight bucks but it's really nice can be sold for $30 easy. Right. Easy. Easy.
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And, and that's not even counting you could do the audio bonus extra, that's another $5 upsell. And I mean, think about how creative you can get with it. It's all there. Right.
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And, and, and as you're talking, I'm, I'm really seeing going from the email si- the freebie, the first freebie is sign up for these emails, which is almost its own se- it's, it's, it can be its own sequence that it just like sends out- So you could literally be like your...
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She's writing the diary live to you right now or like he, you know- Right. Right... the character. And, and I- Like the character in the diary is live. Yeah.
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And at, and at some point I had even envisioned like, oh no, 'cause they're coming from an email with the redacted headers and she's, you know, she's very much talking about, we don't know...
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I've been assured this is okay, this is secure, this is encrypted, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And at some point I was thinking another upsell is that I've been hacked, and now if you wanna keep getting my stuff, I'm gonna have to send it to you. Yeah. And then it becomes like letters in the mail or whatever.
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And then the next thing would be like a... So I'm seeing like it could keep upselling, um, and it kind of cr- it creates itself.
508
01:26:51.156 --> 01:27:05.376
So that, 'cause I'm already building the world book for the world as the author, and, and all it is is it's turning the perspective to that of a character who when I write the world book, I'm already thinking in her voice in that world book anyway.
509
01:27:05.516 --> 01:27:18.636
Um- Right. Yeah... s- so the work is already created, it's just how do I divide it and turn it into a product? Well, I think, I think you're, I think you're exactly on the right path.
510
01:27:18.716 --> 01:27:25.925
So think away from Book Funnel in your own ecosystem. You could drive traffic to it if you're able to get them on the upsell. That's the principle, and I think
511
01:27:26.996 --> 01:27:33.896
I, I would research, I would look at other things people are buying. I would look at other things people have downloaded. I would get some examples.
512
01:27:34.076 --> 01:27:39.516
You have, you know, I know you have me on Substack, uh, for sure 'cause you DM me there. DM me some links.
513
01:27:39.596 --> 01:27:49.136
I'd be very happy to like just look over things for you and bounce back and forth ideas 'cause I think we're at the stage now where this is innovative and, and, and the math can work.
514
01:27:49.176 --> 01:28:00.826
It, it, principles are there, but let's get some more inspiration from what's already working. Yeah. So think broad and wide, like authors probably aren't doing this, but who, what, who has done the things like this?
515
01:28:00.856 --> 01:28:09.576
What are comps like this that exist? Let's go out there and find it, and let's see like is diary the right branding or is it something else? These are small things, but they make such a big difference.
516
01:28:09.616 --> 01:28:12.336
Like what is the exact right way to bring people in?
517
01:28:12.376 --> 01:28:20.656
Because there's clearly an ecosystem of offers here and ways you can further immerse them in the experience, but it all relies on can you get that initial click and initial email.
518
01:28:20.816 --> 01:28:29.216
After that, if you generally get that interest, I think the rest is not easy 'cause it takes a lot of creative energy and effort, but it all makes sense. Yeah. But the first part has to make sense.
519
01:28:29.396 --> 01:28:39.576
So I think that's what we should work on, and message me and I'd love to r- I'd love to like chat on that more 'cause I think that's the next action step is like just continue breaking the rules.
520
01:28:39.616 --> 01:28:49.696
Like you're right, the answer's not in Book Funnel. I haven't talked to many authors who've built a career off Book Funnel swabs. Mm-mm. Yeah. No. And I love Damon, love Book Funnel, okay? Like it's a great software.
521
01:28:49.736 --> 01:29:02.336
That's not to say anything bad about it. Um, but that's just to say that, um, you know, it's good to break the rules. Mm. Okay. Um, I've, uh, have to head out now.
522
01:29:02.456 --> 01:29:16.176
Um, I, I could talk to y'all for hours and hours, but, um, I'm gonna stop the recording, um, right now. Let me end this. Thank you everyone for watching. If you're watching this recording, you are awesome. And, uh-