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Welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast.
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Join biological and cosmetic dentist Dr.
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Katie Toe as she explores holistic wellness through trending ideas, real stories, and patient experiences.
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This podcast will inspire you to make healthy lifestyle choices and take charge of your dental wellness.
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And now your host, the wellness dentist, Dr.
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Katie Toe.
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Hi, welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Katie Toe, and I can't wait to share with you today our special guest for the program, Dr.
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Svetlana Yushrenko.
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So, as you guys know, as a mom and having young children, we always want to have the best foundations, the best health, the best food for our kid.
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And Dr.
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Svetlana is an expert in airways dentistry, both adult and children.
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And as a person going through this journey herself and for her three children, she has so much to share for us about airway and how's that gonna form the grown developments in our children and how that's gonna have us to have a better healthy life.
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So I can't wait to introduce you guys.
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Here is Dr.
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Svetlana Yushranko.
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Hi, Katie.
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Thank you so much for such a profound introduction.
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I'm happy to be here tonight.
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Svetlana, I know that a lot of the audience probably listened to your intro, but I would like you to make that introduction yourself.
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So tell us a little bit about your journey.
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How did you start dentistry?
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And how did you went through this airway journey for yourself and for your children?
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And we can't wait to hear that.
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Great question.
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For me, it's even hard to recall how it's all started, but definitely it started with my personal story with my oldest son, who is 13 years old now, and I believe he was four when I started to have a lot of concerns about his seasonal allergies, about his constantly stuffed nose, about him not performing well at school, and having some personal challenges.
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And I tried my best to find the help from ENT, from pediatric doctors, and nothing really worked.
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The last drop, and the really like, you know, the first drop to start my journey was when he got death from allergy.
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And it was so profound and sudden that I still remember it like it was yesterday.
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So I called him for dinner and he didn't respond.
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I walked to his room and called him again, and he didn't turn to me.
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I got closer to him and I touched him, pat him in the back, and he turned to me, and I will never forget that blank face, you know, how the person looks at you when they don't hear you.
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And I started to ask him, like, you know, what's wrong?
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Can you hear me?
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And he started to cry because he showed me with the body language, like he cannot hear me.
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And this is how it all started.
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And we went through a lot of treatments with ENT and with uh allergologists, and this is how it's all started.
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And then just there and there, during lectures, during some personal talk to colleagues, I started to hear more stories like mine.
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And all of them brought me to the airway awareness, I should say, because I knew nothing about it.
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But it's all started there.
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And then I realized that my middle son has some problems, and then my little daughter was definitely an airway issue daughter.
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Then I realized myself is in trouble, and my husband is in a deep trouble.
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So the whole family needs some airway treatment or prevention or whatever you call it, but it was the start to open eyes and be realistic about how serious and how impactful it could be for the whole family.
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Thank you, Dolana.
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I know that's a lot of things that you go through to get your children healthier and reading better.
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So would you say that the fact that both you and your husband realize that you have airway compromise, is that something we would think genetic, or is it something that we used to just look into every single kid and screen everyone?
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It's a great question.
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Genetic definitely plays a huge role.
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But the more you get into that field, the more you realize it's not just about genetics, it's about epigenetics and it's about environment and it's about what we eat and how we move and what we do.
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And I think, you know, just airway dentistry, it's such a hot topic, but realistically we need to understand the foundation of that.
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It's not even about airway or breathing, it's about the overall well-being.
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It's about how well children sleep to restore what needs to be restored, to grow the right way, to develop the right way, to basically accommodate to the modern life well.
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And to be able to do that, they absolutely have to sleep well.
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And to sleep well, they absolutely have to breathe well.
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So it's not about isolated breathing problems, it's about the very fine interconnection with the overall well-being.
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And that's the most important.
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And just breathing is part of the overall puzzle, but it's a big part.
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Great answer.
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I love that.
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That is not just one factor, but it's multiple factors, and we have to look into all of that.
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Absolutely.
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So we're definitely, you know, born with um certain amount of genes and certain amount of phenotype, but we also are what we eat, what we breathe, where we live, what we do on a daily basis, and we cannot ignore all those little details to uh help the child to get the optimum of their development.
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For me, the most profound expression of that was many years ago, during one lecture, I can't even remember what kind of lecture was it, but I've heard the expression that if your child snores six months, you will never know the potential of what your child was created for.
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And it just shoot me in my head thinking that how can I ignore it longer?
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How I can ignore that my child is not using what was given by Mother Nature or God or whatever you believe in.
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It's just not something I would like to do.
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I'm the mom who believes that the child has to eat well, has to move well, and has to breathe well.
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And as a mom, for me, the most important thing is to provide them to thrive through what's giving.
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And I think that's my primary role as a mom, plus as a professional.
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Yes.
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It's so impactful when we ourselves are going through this journey with our children.
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So when we talk to patients, we understand what they're going through.
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Now, you've been on this journey with your children for a few years now.
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What changes or improvement that you see in all the three cases?
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There is um no short and straightforward answer, but what I can tell based on my personal experience, my children are 13, 12, and 7 years old.
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So I definitely can say it's important to recognize the problem at every age.
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When the child is born, when the child is growing to become a toddler, when the child gets the primary bite, when the child has a mixed dentition.
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So every stage in the growth has a certain science we have to watch for.
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And that's what I've learned.
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And I think it's not just about, you know, dentistry, it's basically about what every single mom needs to know about her children so she knows where and how to find the help.
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The topic is pretty hot, but at the same time, there is still a lot of controversies.
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I have a lot of patients who try to find help, who go between, like, you know, different pediatricians, different ENT people, different specialists for allergies, and they still cannot find answers.
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What I found out, a lot of alternative, you know, doctors, integrative medicine doctors, they are more aware of the problem.
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They are more mind-open to listen to those families.
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So this is why I think it's not just about what dentists see, it's about how we can educate our patients to look at their children differently, to recognize the problem, and to look for help.
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Ask the right questions, and if they don't get answers, move to another specialist until they find the right answers.
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And this is, I think, is the whole mission of every airway centered specialist.
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I'm so glad you bring that up because I do have seeing patients in my practice, I'm sure you see in yours practice, that they were told so many times that they don't have tongue tie, they don't have issues with sleep.
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In fact, they do have all that.
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So they look at us and they say, how come my pediatricians or my ENT doesn't recognize this?
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Besides seeing a functional or integrative professional, what other, say, reading materials or where do they can come to or go to check out on the website that is a resource for these patients?
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Great question.
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I wish I have a great answer.
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There are a lot of information, but there is no one single book I can call which has all answers.
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It's really about finding the right group of specialists.
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That's why I highly encourage my patients, my friends, my family members to ask questions and get answers and find someone who would listen to your concerns as a mom and who would try to find a solution.
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The most important group of specialists would be your dentist, your orthodontist, your ENT, your allergy specialist, definitely myofunctional specialist, it's the field of oral pathology.
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You know, if you never heard about that specialty, the easiest way to understand it's the oral pathology specialist, but they are uh very specifically work with the function of our mouth muscles.
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I don't want to go very deep in that, but without every specialist in that field, there is gonna be a missing puzzle piece.
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And that's what makes it complicated, but at the same time, it makes us excited to work as a collaboration, not as an isolated specialist.
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This is what we're all working very hard to establish those teamwork, team approach, the group of professionals who know the problem, who stay on the same page, but could help the child.
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We're talking about children right now, help the child from their specific professional way.
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And I think if we find the way to work together, find the way to educate each other, find the way to educate our patients, we all will be very successful in helping our children to live, you know, a more fulfillful life.
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Wonderful.
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And I'm glad you bring that up too, because what I noticed, like just like what you're doing in your practice, you work with a team of specialists that are helping you, like orthodontist or a surgeon.
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Absolutely, because without them, you just I mean, it's always better to do something than nothing.
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Even if you don't have a team, do the best you can.
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It could be simple like that.
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You know, I will never forget like my daughter.
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She was um suffering from a lot of you know different issues since she was uh newborn.
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The first antibiotic treatment she received when she was two weeks old, and right now she is seven.
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I think it was a huge mistake for me to listen to the doctor and provide her that treatment without getting second opinion.
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But I didn't know any better.
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And I remember how we were going to emergency room every week for some issues until I met the wonderful nurse who just took my daughter from my hands and she said, Mama, look at me.
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This is gonna be the most important thing you're gonna do for your daughter.
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And she taught me how to clean the nose for my newborn, and she was number three.
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So I was mom third time, and I still didn't know how to clean nose for my own child.
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And let me tell you, it may sound funny, but it was the huge impact just for her to be able to breathe through her nose, and me being able to help her to breathe through her nose and get better sleep and become a better infant, it was huge change.
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This is how I realized that the simple things could be very, very important and very profound for the child well-being at any age.
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It could be breastfeeding issues.
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Who shares breastfeeding issues?
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It's not something we I mean, probably like in your mother's group, but it's usually more like sharing your suffers, but there is no great solution.
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How many times you meet the lactation specialist at the hospital and but not being able to get the following up care after that?
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I was in the hospital with my three children.
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I've seen lactation specialists, but nobody told me there is a source you can reach out to those people or those people if you have questions afterwards.
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And I didn't know what kind of questions.
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I thought, you know, motherhood is all about suffering.
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It could be like watching your children's speech problems.
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I remember how we laughed and videotaped my middle son speaking very funny.
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I'm bilingual, and we thought it's probably why our children, you know, speak a little bit different.
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My middle one was making really, really funny words in English and in Russian, and we all thought it's cute.
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Now I know it was a sign of something is not going right with him.
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My oldest son didn't speak until he was four years old.
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Four years old.
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And I tried every specialist at that point, and everybody was saying, like, well, we'll see.
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He, I mean, I can't even remember what they were saying.
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But I remember clearly my dad at one point said, okay, we have to calm down.
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If he is gonna be speechless, we're gonna love him the way he is.
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That's basically what the solution.
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And I didn't know who to talk to about it.
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So I really believe education, the basic education, what to watch and who to ask, and what to ask is the very basic.
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And we think it's obvious, but it's not.
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This is why I spend a lot of time with my patients teaching them basic, how to clean the children's nose, how to position your child when you clean their nose, what to use to clean their nose, how to find the little tricks like using nitipod, and if your child hates it, what could be the solution for that?
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How to make it happen?
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And I have my personal experience on that.
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And what Katie you said, going through that by myself helps me to help my patients because I know how hard it is to make your child to clean the nose.
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I know how many cries is there.
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So when I make my recommendations, my recommendations come from my heart.
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And this is why I always encourage to see a different specialist.
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If you know how your child should breathe, how your child should live, you will be asking questions and questions and looking for the right specialist until you find the right one.
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That's my goal.
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Because a lot of time people just get the simple answer.
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Oh, that's gonna be fine.
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Or use flonase, like religiously.
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Like one of specialists for my daughter said, take claritin and just to prevent asthma attack, just stay on claritin for years.
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And I ask, like, what do you mean for years?
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Like every single day for years until what?
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Until you want to try to stop it and see if asthma attacks will come back.
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Is that a solution?
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And I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but that was recommendation from the doctor at the children's hospital.
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So you as a mom assume they're a specialist and they know what they're doing.
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But unfortunately, medical school as well as dental school, we don't have enough training on that.
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It's a relatively new field.
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And I don't want to sound negative, but just because the doctor doesn't know what to do doesn't mean we should accept it.
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It means we should look for the specialist who knows what to do.
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That's why I think what you do in your uh center of integrative dentistry and everything you do for well-being of your patients, it's very important because this is how it's all gonna start work.
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And another thing I always tell my friends or my skeptical colleagues, it's okay to wait until everything will be protocoled.
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But I cannot wait because by the time everything will be in the dental books, my children will grow up and they will be with my adult problems.
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And what treatment I am going through is nothing to compare what I can do to my children to prevent the adult problems.
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I went through three surgeries on my jar, and I'm still I I did the two rounds of ortho, and I'm still not even close to where I would like to be.
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My husband, he is also a general dentist, he needs a major surgery.
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Ideally, he needs double jaw surgery to fix his sleep apnea.
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I don't want my children to grow into that because breathing problem in children, it's not a definite disease, it's a spectrum.
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It starts simply with not being able to breathe through your nose, and it grows with the child until the adult gets the serious problems, which is very hard to fix.
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That's what I try to prevent, and that's what I'm gonna do for the rest of my career and hopefully my life.
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Think of that, Alana, and as a biological wellness airway dentist and a mommy, what would our audience look for in their children so they can start looking for the right help that their children need?
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What are they looking for?
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The size, is it the eyes, is it the snoring, is it the ear infection?
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What is it that you're looking for when you do an exam on your patient and explain to the parents what is it that you're looking for that other dentists don't?
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Great question.
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First of all, I would say it's age specific, but there are certain basic things I look at every child, regardless of age.
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The first thing every child on the planet has to breathe through the nose all the time.
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When they watch TV, when they read books, when they take tests, when they play with friends, even you know, doing sports, I keep hearing more and more, even doing sports, ideally they should breathe through your nose, you know, through their nose.
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There are some breathing specialists who work with athletes to teach them to breathe through your nose, even at the sport performance.
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I'm not really familiar with that field, but that's my fundamental basic.
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That's what every mom should know how to watch for.
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Look at your children when they play video games.
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Look at your children when they Eat?
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Are they making funny noises when they eat?
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Are they kind of like, you know, funny eater?
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Is it hard for them to keep the food in when they three uh when they are like, you know, a toddler age?
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We all think it's cute, but try to look at them.
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What if they try to eat and breathe at the same time?
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Is the nose stuffed all the time?
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Is it runny nose all the time?
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Look at the eyes.
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Are they a little bit red?
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I don't know how to describe it.
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In my family, we have a specific description of those eyes.
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We call them wet eyes.
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And I'm just translating it from Russian, so I don't know exactly how to describe it.
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But you know how your child gets sick but not fully sick yet?
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And you look at the face and you know those eyes kind of a little bit puffy, a little bit glossy, a little bit too wet, and you know something is going on.
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That kind of like you know, allergy looks.
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And when it's the season, look at them.
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Are they gasping for air?
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Because snoring is not the first sign.
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Snoring is the final sign.
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Snoring in children is already a huge red flag.
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Let me tell you a different way.
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It's not a red flag, it's ASAP.
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Like if your child snores on a daily basis, like every night you hear your child snoring, you need to take action immediately.
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You need to see someone who can evaluate your child right away because that's already developed to the snoring.
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Snoring for children is a huge problem.
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And it didn't happen yesterday.
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It slowly developed from something mild to that blocked airway.
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Think about snoring like blocked airway.
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So it's not just, you know, making noises, it's about not being able to breathe the way you should.
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Another sign, believe me or not, is behavior.
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It's a huge and it's a very sensitive topic to talk about because you know, children are children, and children are different.
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So it's very hard to judge, especially being a dentist.
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I'm not familiar with those signs, but I always pay attention to what mom shares with me.
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Does mom have any concern about her child's performance at school, performance with children, you know, the social interactions.
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And as a general dentist, we build up long-term relationships with our patients.
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And I always try to be delicate, but at the same time, ask what exactly the concern is about.
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Because sometimes children who don't sleep well show the signs of ADHD and any other behavior problems which we try to hide, or sometimes we try to start treatment too soon without ruling out other problems.
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And um now, ideally, every child before putting such a diagnosis of ADHD or anything like that, they need to be evaluated by sleep doctor to rule out sleep problems before putting the child under any diagnosis.
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How many moms do you know about that?
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A lot of them try to be good moms and provide the best for children so they listen to doctors, they start treatment which may not be necessary.
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Another sign is definitely already mentioned it's snoring.
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Snoring is something you are not ignoring.
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I mean, we'll have episodes like you get the flu, you get the cold or something, but if you snore on a daily basis, that's not the right thing.
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And you need to find the answer to that, like why your child is snoring.
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And there are a lot of little things we look at from the dental standpoint.
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Another good thing, every single mom can recognize crowding.
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Children's teeth, and I'm talking about like baby teeth or mixed dentition teeth, which means you have baby teeth and you're already getting adult teeth, or young adults who already got adult teeth, but not like you know, fully established adult occlusion yet.
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There shouldn't be any crowding.
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Crowding is a big sign of small mouth.
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If I can say it the simplest way, crowding and not because teeth are big, it's because the mouth is too small for the normal teeth.
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And a lot of families think that they shouldn't worry about it until the child is 12 years old when they see orthodontist.
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Now, I'm glad we now try to send our children for the first orthodontist evaluation as seven years old.
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But let me tell you, a lot of time they need to be checked at five, at four, at three.
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And we see sometimes treatment could be even sooner than that age.
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So we're all moving toward to not waiting for anything and take some actions right now, just like you said.
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For infant, it could be evaluating and treating tantis, it could be intraoral massage, the lactation specialist can teach mom to do.
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It could be professional massage, it could be body work, which is very, very important for newborn.
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And it could be like in your special craniosacral therapy, it could be myofunctional therapy for a little bit older child.
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So a lot of proactive approaches to prevent or to improve the outcome as much as we can.
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When we go together to all those courses, we always share with you, and you remember there are certain signs like looking at your child and looking at profile.
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You don't have to be a dentist to read profile.
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And a lot of airway specialists say, like, as soon as you see it, you cannot unsee it.
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It's such a true statement.
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When I take my children to hockey practice, I look at their team and I see, oh, how to talk to that mom?
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How can I politely tell her that something is not right with her child?
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Or I stay on the soccer field for my oldest son, you know, play, and I always look at and think, oh, that one never closed his mouth.
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I wish I can, you know, talk to his mom.
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But not every person you can just openly walk in and say, hey, I am so-so, and I want to tell you.
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But if that mom hears about nasal breathing from your podcast, from another one, from the book, from Facebook, and then she reads some post on Instagram, and hopefully she will start asking, like, is it my child?
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I have a lot of personal friends who put on the form at my exam, like, no snoring, no behavior problems, no mouth breathing.
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And when the child's sitting in the chair and the whole dental exam appointment, he or she never closed the mouth.
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So sometimes we don't know what mouth breathing, how mouth breathing looks like in the eyes of patient's mom.
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So it doesn't have to be wide open with a tongue sticking out.
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It could be as small as a little little opening, like drooling saliva during night is considered to be mouth breathing.
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How many people know about that?
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Not a lot.
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How many people know that if your child watches the movie, the mouth should be completely closed?
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And so it's such a broad question, and there is no way to answer everything, you know, in such a short time.
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But those basic things everyone should be very watchful for.
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Any child should not breathe through the mouth at any time.
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Nasal breathing, it's what we've all been designed for.
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No snoring.
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The child should be happy.
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The child should be happy, go to the bed and wake up in the morning.
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The child shouldn't turn around during night like you cannot find her the blanket or you know the pillow, everything around the room.
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That's the sign of restful sleep.
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If the child takes a long time to fall asleep, it's the sign that something needs to be evaluated.
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If it's really hard to wake the child up, it's the sign.
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If every morning they suffer from headache, if they are moody every morning, that's the question you should ask.
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Your pediatrician, your dentist, get the second opinion, but find someone who has answers.
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I hope it helps.
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I can talk about science and what to watch for on and on and on, but I think just, you know, a few fundamentals is good enough to know for everyone.
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That's amazing, Dr.
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Lana.
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You guys know this, that what Dr.
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Lana just shared with us is like she's lecture for hours on this topic.
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So this is just something that you can look at the child right away and recognize that I need to get help for my children.
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Because as parents, we always want the best for our kid.
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And remember, we're all little ones.
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So we were there, and now we were struggling with energy level, fatigue, and memory, foggy brain, and now we realize that we also breeding through them out, and we are suffering through all these years with lack of energies and motivations and actions.
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And so we don't want that, take that away from our children, the possibility of what they could become.
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So, Dr.
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Lana, really appreciate your time.
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And I'll make sure that we put your contact information on our blog posts and information how to reach out to you and contact you on social media, on Instagram and on Facebook.
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And we can't wait, especially audience that in the FW area, you are so lucky.
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Dr.
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Lana and her husband is opening their private practice in Dallas that focuses on biological wellness, airway, comprehensive, full mouth dentistry.
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So make sure you follow Dr.
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Lana startup journey.
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And Dr.
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Lana, can you please say a few words for our um audience before we?
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Of course.
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Thank you so much for having me tonight.
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I just remember how it all started with my journey.
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I just wanted to help my own children.
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The more I've learned about it, the more I wanted to help others.
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So I decided, okay, I'm gonna help children in my close family.
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Then I decided to help my, you know, friends' children.
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And then it became my professional and personal passion.
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So, as you know, it may start with your own child, but you never know.
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Through knowing what's going on with your child, you may help so many other children and families to be better, to be healthier and happier.
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It's all about that.
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Thank you so much for having me here tonight.
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Thank you so much for listening in.
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Make sure that you are looking at your kid and sharing this message with other moms, friends, and your professional healthcare provider.
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So raise the wellness and understand that airway is life.
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And thank you again for tuning in today.
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I'm Dr.
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Katie Toe, and you want to have a wonderful day.
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And don't forget, there's always a reason to smile.
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Thanks for listening to the Wellness Dentist Podcast.
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We hope you enjoyed the show.
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Please rate and review.
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Welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast.
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Join biological and cosmetic dentist Dr.
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Katie Toe as she explores holistic wellness through trending ideas, real stories, and patient experiences.
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This podcast will inspire you to make healthy lifestyle choices and take charge of your dental wellness.
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And now your host, the wellness dentist, Dr.
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Katie Toe.
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Hi, welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Katie Toe, and I can't wait to share with you today our special guest for the program, Dr.
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Svetlana Yushrenko.
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So, as you guys know, as a mom and having young children, we always want to have the best foundations, the best health, the best food for our kid.
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And Dr.
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Svetlana is an expert in airways dentistry, both adult and children.
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And as a person going through this journey herself and for her three children, she has so much to share for us about airway and how's that gonna form the grown developments in our children and how that's gonna have us to have a better healthy life.
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So I can't wait to introduce you guys.
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Here is Dr.
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Svetlana Yushranko.
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Hi, Katie.
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Thank you so much for such a profound introduction.
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I'm happy to be here tonight.
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Svetlana, I know that a lot of the audience probably listened to your intro, but I would like you to make that introduction yourself.
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So tell us a little bit about your journey.
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How did you start dentistry?
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And how did you went through this airway journey for yourself and for your children?
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And we can't wait to hear that.
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Great question.
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For me, it's even hard to recall how it's all started, but definitely it started with my personal story with my oldest son, who is 13 years old now, and I believe he was four when I started to have a lot of concerns about his seasonal allergies, about his constantly stuffed nose, about him not performing well at school, and having some personal challenges.
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And I tried my best to find the help from ENT, from pediatric doctors, and nothing really worked.
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The last drop, and the really like, you know, the first drop to start my journey was when he got death from allergy.
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And it was so profound and sudden that I still remember it like it was yesterday.
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So I called him for dinner and he didn't respond.
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I walked to his room and called him again, and he didn't turn to me.
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I got closer to him and I touched him, pat him in the back, and he turned to me, and I will never forget that blank face, you know, how the person looks at you when they don't hear you.
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And I started to ask him, like, you know, what's wrong?
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Can you hear me?
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And he started to cry because he showed me with the body language, like he cannot hear me.
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And this is how it all started.
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And we went through a lot of treatments with ENT and with uh allergologists, and this is how it's all started.
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And then just there and there, during lectures, during some personal talk to colleagues, I started to hear more stories like mine.
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And all of them brought me to the airway awareness, I should say, because I knew nothing about it.
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But it's all started there.
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And then I realized that my middle son has some problems, and then my little daughter was definitely an airway issue daughter.
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Then I realized myself is in trouble, and my husband is in a deep trouble.
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So the whole family needs some airway treatment or prevention or whatever you call it, but it was the start to open eyes and be realistic about how serious and how impactful it could be for the whole family.
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Thank you, Dolana.
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I know that's a lot of things that you go through to get your children healthier and reading better.
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So would you say that the fact that both you and your husband realize that you have airway compromise, is that something we would think genetic, or is it something that we used to just look into every single kid and screen everyone?
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It's a great question.
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Genetic definitely plays a huge role.
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But the more you get into that field, the more you realize it's not just about genetics, it's about epigenetics and it's about environment and it's about what we eat and how we move and what we do.
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And I think, you know, just airway dentistry, it's such a hot topic, but realistically we need to understand the foundation of that.
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It's not even about airway or breathing, it's about the overall well-being.
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It's about how well children sleep to restore what needs to be restored, to grow the right way, to develop the right way, to basically accommodate to the modern life well.
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And to be able to do that, they absolutely have to sleep well.
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And to sleep well, they absolutely have to breathe well.
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So it's not about isolated breathing problems, it's about the very fine interconnection with the overall well-being.
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And that's the most important.
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And just breathing is part of the overall puzzle, but it's a big part.
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Great answer.
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I love that.
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That is not just one factor, but it's multiple factors, and we have to look into all of that.
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Absolutely.
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So we're definitely, you know, born with um certain amount of genes and certain amount of phenotype, but we also are what we eat, what we breathe, where we live, what we do on a daily basis, and we cannot ignore all those little details to uh help the child to get the optimum of their development.
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For me, the most profound expression of that was many years ago, during one lecture, I can't even remember what kind of lecture was it, but I've heard the expression that if your child snores six months, you will never know the potential of what your child was created for.
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And it just shoot me in my head thinking that how can I ignore it longer?
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How I can ignore that my child is not using what was given by Mother Nature or God or whatever you believe in.
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It's just not something I would like to do.
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I'm the mom who believes that the child has to eat well, has to move well, and has to breathe well.
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And as a mom, for me, the most important thing is to provide them to thrive through what's giving.
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And I think that's my primary role as a mom, plus as a professional.
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Yes.
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It's so impactful when we ourselves are going through this journey with our children.
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So when we talk to patients, we understand what they're going through.
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Now, you've been on this journey with your children for a few years now.
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What changes or improvement that you see in all the three cases?
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There is um no short and straightforward answer, but what I can tell based on my personal experience, my children are 13, 12, and 7 years old.
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So I definitely can say it's important to recognize the problem at every age.
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When the child is born, when the child is growing to become a toddler, when the child gets the primary bite, when the child has a mixed dentition.
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So every stage in the growth has a certain science we have to watch for.
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And that's what I've learned.
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And I think it's not just about, you know, dentistry, it's basically about what every single mom needs to know about her children so she knows where and how to find the help.
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The topic is pretty hot, but at the same time, there is still a lot of controversies.
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I have a lot of patients who try to find help, who go between, like, you know, different pediatricians, different ENT people, different specialists for allergies, and they still cannot find answers.
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What I found out, a lot of alternative, you know, doctors, integrative medicine doctors, they are more aware of the problem.
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They are more mind-open to listen to those families.
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So this is why I think it's not just about what dentists see, it's about how we can educate our patients to look at their children differently, to recognize the problem, and to look for help.
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Ask the right questions, and if they don't get answers, move to another specialist until they find the right answers.
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And this is, I think, is the whole mission of every airway centered specialist.
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I'm so glad you bring that up because I do have seeing patients in my practice, I'm sure you see in yours practice, that they were told so many times that they don't have tongue tie, they don't have issues with sleep.
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In fact, they do have all that.
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So they look at us and they say, how come my pediatricians or my ENT doesn't recognize this?
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Besides seeing a functional or integrative professional, what other, say, reading materials or where do they can come to or go to check out on the website that is a resource for these patients?
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Great question.
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I wish I have a great answer.
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There are a lot of information, but there is no one single book I can call which has all answers.
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It's really about finding the right group of specialists.
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That's why I highly encourage my patients, my friends, my family members to ask questions and get answers and find someone who would listen to your concerns as a mom and who would try to find a solution.
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The most important group of specialists would be your dentist, your orthodontist, your ENT, your allergy specialist, definitely myofunctional specialist, it's the field of oral pathology.
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You know, if you never heard about that specialty, the easiest way to understand it's the oral pathology specialist, but they are uh very specifically work with the function of our mouth muscles.
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I don't want to go very deep in that, but without every specialist in that field, there is gonna be a missing puzzle piece.
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And that's what makes it complicated, but at the same time, it makes us excited to work as a collaboration, not as an isolated specialist.
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This is what we're all working very hard to establish those teamwork, team approach, the group of professionals who know the problem, who stay on the same page, but could help the child.
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We're talking about children right now, help the child from their specific professional way.
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And I think if we find the way to work together, find the way to educate each other, find the way to educate our patients, we all will be very successful in helping our children to live, you know, a more fulfillful life.
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Wonderful.
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And I'm glad you bring that up too, because what I noticed, like just like what you're doing in your practice, you work with a team of specialists that are helping you, like orthodontist or a surgeon.
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Absolutely, because without them, you just I mean, it's always better to do something than nothing.
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Even if you don't have a team, do the best you can.
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It could be simple like that.
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You know, I will never forget like my daughter.
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She was um suffering from a lot of you know different issues since she was uh newborn.
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The first antibiotic treatment she received when she was two weeks old, and right now she is seven.
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I think it was a huge mistake for me to listen to the doctor and provide her that treatment without getting second opinion.
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But I didn't know any better.
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And I remember how we were going to emergency room every week for some issues until I met the wonderful nurse who just took my daughter from my hands and she said, Mama, look at me.
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This is gonna be the most important thing you're gonna do for your daughter.
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And she taught me how to clean the nose for my newborn, and she was number three.
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So I was mom third time, and I still didn't know how to clean nose for my own child.
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And let me tell you, it may sound funny, but it was the huge impact just for her to be able to breathe through her nose, and me being able to help her to breathe through her nose and get better sleep and become a better infant, it was huge change.
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This is how I realized that the simple things could be very, very important and very profound for the child well-being at any age.
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It could be breastfeeding issues.
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Who shares breastfeeding issues?
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It's not something we I mean, probably like in your mother's group, but it's usually more like sharing your suffers, but there is no great solution.
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How many times you meet the lactation specialist at the hospital and but not being able to get the following up care after that?
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I was in the hospital with my three children.
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I've seen lactation specialists, but nobody told me there is a source you can reach out to those people or those people if you have questions afterwards.
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And I didn't know what kind of questions.
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I thought, you know, motherhood is all about suffering.
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It could be like watching your children's speech problems.
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I remember how we laughed and videotaped my middle son speaking very funny.
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I'm bilingual, and we thought it's probably why our children, you know, speak a little bit different.
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My middle one was making really, really funny words in English and in Russian, and we all thought it's cute.
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Now I know it was a sign of something is not going right with him.
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My oldest son didn't speak until he was four years old.
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Four years old.
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And I tried every specialist at that point, and everybody was saying, like, well, we'll see.
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He, I mean, I can't even remember what they were saying.
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But I remember clearly my dad at one point said, okay, we have to calm down.
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If he is gonna be speechless, we're gonna love him the way he is.
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That's basically what the solution.
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And I didn't know who to talk to about it.
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So I really believe education, the basic education, what to watch and who to ask, and what to ask is the very basic.
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And we think it's obvious, but it's not.
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This is why I spend a lot of time with my patients teaching them basic, how to clean the children's nose, how to position your child when you clean their nose, what to use to clean their nose, how to find the little tricks like using nitipod, and if your child hates it, what could be the solution for that?
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How to make it happen?
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And I have my personal experience on that.
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And what Katie you said, going through that by myself helps me to help my patients because I know how hard it is to make your child to clean the nose.
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I know how many cries is there.
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So when I make my recommendations, my recommendations come from my heart.
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And this is why I always encourage to see a different specialist.
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If you know how your child should breathe, how your child should live, you will be asking questions and questions and looking for the right specialist until you find the right one.
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That's my goal.
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Because a lot of time people just get the simple answer.
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Oh, that's gonna be fine.
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Or use flonase, like religiously.
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Like one of specialists for my daughter said, take claritin and just to prevent asthma attack, just stay on claritin for years.
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And I ask, like, what do you mean for years?
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Like every single day for years until what?
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Until you want to try to stop it and see if asthma attacks will come back.
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Is that a solution?
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And I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but that was recommendation from the doctor at the children's hospital.
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So you as a mom assume they're a specialist and they know what they're doing.
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But unfortunately, medical school as well as dental school, we don't have enough training on that.
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It's a relatively new field.
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And I don't want to sound negative, but just because the doctor doesn't know what to do doesn't mean we should accept it.
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It means we should look for the specialist who knows what to do.
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That's why I think what you do in your uh center of integrative dentistry and everything you do for well-being of your patients, it's very important because this is how it's all gonna start work.
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And another thing I always tell my friends or my skeptical colleagues, it's okay to wait until everything will be protocoled.
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But I cannot wait because by the time everything will be in the dental books, my children will grow up and they will be with my adult problems.
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And what treatment I am going through is nothing to compare what I can do to my children to prevent the adult problems.
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I went through three surgeries on my jar, and I'm still I I did the two rounds of ortho, and I'm still not even close to where I would like to be.
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My husband, he is also a general dentist, he needs a major surgery.
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Ideally, he needs double jaw surgery to fix his sleep apnea.
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I don't want my children to grow into that because breathing problem in children, it's not a definite disease, it's a spectrum.
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It starts simply with not being able to breathe through your nose, and it grows with the child until the adult gets the serious problems, which is very hard to fix.
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That's what I try to prevent, and that's what I'm gonna do for the rest of my career and hopefully my life.
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Think of that, Alana, and as a biological wellness airway dentist and a mommy, what would our audience look for in their children so they can start looking for the right help that their children need?
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What are they looking for?
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The size, is it the eyes, is it the snoring, is it the ear infection?
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What is it that you're looking for when you do an exam on your patient and explain to the parents what is it that you're looking for that other dentists don't?
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Great question.
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First of all, I would say it's age specific, but there are certain basic things I look at every child, regardless of age.
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The first thing every child on the planet has to breathe through the nose all the time.
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When they watch TV, when they read books, when they take tests, when they play with friends, even you know, doing sports, I keep hearing more and more, even doing sports, ideally they should breathe through your nose, you know, through their nose.
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There are some breathing specialists who work with athletes to teach them to breathe through your nose, even at the sport performance.
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I'm not really familiar with that field, but that's my fundamental basic.
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That's what every mom should know how to watch for.
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Look at your children when they play video games.
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Look at your children when they Eat?
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Are they making funny noises when they eat?
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Are they kind of like, you know, funny eater?
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Is it hard for them to keep the food in when they three uh when they are like, you know, a toddler age?
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We all think it's cute, but try to look at them.
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What if they try to eat and breathe at the same time?
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Is the nose stuffed all the time?
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Is it runny nose all the time?
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Look at the eyes.
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Are they a little bit red?
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I don't know how to describe it.
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In my family, we have a specific description of those eyes.
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We call them wet eyes.
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And I'm just translating it from Russian, so I don't know exactly how to describe it.
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But you know how your child gets sick but not fully sick yet?
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And you look at the face and you know those eyes kind of a little bit puffy, a little bit glossy, a little bit too wet, and you know something is going on.
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That kind of like you know, allergy looks.
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And when it's the season, look at them.
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Are they gasping for air?
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Because snoring is not the first sign.
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Snoring is the final sign.
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Snoring in children is already a huge red flag.
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Let me tell you a different way.
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It's not a red flag, it's ASAP.
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Like if your child snores on a daily basis, like every night you hear your child snoring, you need to take action immediately.
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You need to see someone who can evaluate your child right away because that's already developed to the snoring.
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Snoring for children is a huge problem.
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And it didn't happen yesterday.
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It slowly developed from something mild to that blocked airway.
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Think about snoring like blocked airway.
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So it's not just, you know, making noises, it's about not being able to breathe the way you should.
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Another sign, believe me or not, is behavior.
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It's a huge and it's a very sensitive topic to talk about because you know, children are children, and children are different.
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So it's very hard to judge, especially being a dentist.
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I'm not familiar with those signs, but I always pay attention to what mom shares with me.
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Does mom have any concern about her child's performance at school, performance with children, you know, the social interactions.
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And as a general dentist, we build up long-term relationships with our patients.
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And I always try to be delicate, but at the same time, ask what exactly the concern is about.
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Because sometimes children who don't sleep well show the signs of ADHD and any other behavior problems which we try to hide, or sometimes we try to start treatment too soon without ruling out other problems.
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And um now, ideally, every child before putting such a diagnosis of ADHD or anything like that, they need to be evaluated by sleep doctor to rule out sleep problems before putting the child under any diagnosis.
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How many moms do you know about that?
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A lot of them try to be good moms and provide the best for children so they listen to doctors, they start treatment which may not be necessary.
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Another sign is definitely already mentioned it's snoring.
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Snoring is something you are not ignoring.
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I mean, we'll have episodes like you get the flu, you get the cold or something, but if you snore on a daily basis, that's not the right thing.
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And you need to find the answer to that, like why your child is snoring.
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And there are a lot of little things we look at from the dental standpoint.
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Another good thing, every single mom can recognize crowding.
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Children's teeth, and I'm talking about like baby teeth or mixed dentition teeth, which means you have baby teeth and you're already getting adult teeth, or young adults who already got adult teeth, but not like you know, fully established adult occlusion yet.
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There shouldn't be any crowding.
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Crowding is a big sign of small mouth.
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If I can say it the simplest way, crowding and not because teeth are big, it's because the mouth is too small for the normal teeth.
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And a lot of families think that they shouldn't worry about it until the child is 12 years old when they see orthodontist.
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Now, I'm glad we now try to send our children for the first orthodontist evaluation as seven years old.
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But let me tell you, a lot of time they need to be checked at five, at four, at three.
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And we see sometimes treatment could be even sooner than that age.
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So we're all moving toward to not waiting for anything and take some actions right now, just like you said.
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For infant, it could be evaluating and treating tantis, it could be intraoral massage, the lactation specialist can teach mom to do.
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It could be professional massage, it could be body work, which is very, very important for newborn.
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And it could be like in your special craniosacral therapy, it could be myofunctional therapy for a little bit older child.
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So a lot of proactive approaches to prevent or to improve the outcome as much as we can.
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When we go together to all those courses, we always share with you, and you remember there are certain signs like looking at your child and looking at profile.
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You don't have to be a dentist to read profile.
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And a lot of airway specialists say, like, as soon as you see it, you cannot unsee it.
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It's such a true statement.
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When I take my children to hockey practice, I look at their team and I see, oh, how to talk to that mom?
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How can I politely tell her that something is not right with her child?
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Or I stay on the soccer field for my oldest son, you know, play, and I always look at and think, oh, that one never closed his mouth.
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I wish I can, you know, talk to his mom.
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But not every person you can just openly walk in and say, hey, I am so-so, and I want to tell you.
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But if that mom hears about nasal breathing from your podcast, from another one, from the book, from Facebook, and then she reads some post on Instagram, and hopefully she will start asking, like, is it my child?
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I have a lot of personal friends who put on the form at my exam, like, no snoring, no behavior problems, no mouth breathing.
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And when the child's sitting in the chair and the whole dental exam appointment, he or she never closed the mouth.
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So sometimes we don't know what mouth breathing, how mouth breathing looks like in the eyes of patient's mom.
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So it doesn't have to be wide open with a tongue sticking out.
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It could be as small as a little little opening, like drooling saliva during night is considered to be mouth breathing.
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How many people know about that?
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Not a lot.
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How many people know that if your child watches the movie, the mouth should be completely closed?
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And so it's such a broad question, and there is no way to answer everything, you know, in such a short time.
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But those basic things everyone should be very watchful for.
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Any child should not breathe through the mouth at any time.
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Nasal breathing, it's what we've all been designed for.
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No snoring.
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The child should be happy.
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The child should be happy, go to the bed and wake up in the morning.
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The child shouldn't turn around during night like you cannot find her the blanket or you know the pillow, everything around the room.
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That's the sign of restful sleep.
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If the child takes a long time to fall asleep, it's the sign that something needs to be evaluated.
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If it's really hard to wake the child up, it's the sign.
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If every morning they suffer from headache, if they are moody every morning, that's the question you should ask.
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Your pediatrician, your dentist, get the second opinion, but find someone who has answers.
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I hope it helps.
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I can talk about science and what to watch for on and on and on, but I think just, you know, a few fundamentals is good enough to know for everyone.
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That's amazing, Dr.
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Lana.
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You guys know this, that what Dr.
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Lana just shared with us is like she's lecture for hours on this topic.
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So this is just something that you can look at the child right away and recognize that I need to get help for my children.
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Because as parents, we always want the best for our kid.
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And remember, we're all little ones.
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So we were there, and now we were struggling with energy level, fatigue, and memory, foggy brain, and now we realize that we also breeding through them out, and we are suffering through all these years with lack of energies and motivations and actions.
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And so we don't want that, take that away from our children, the possibility of what they could become.
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So, Dr.
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Lana, really appreciate your time.
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And I'll make sure that we put your contact information on our blog posts and information how to reach out to you and contact you on social media, on Instagram and on Facebook.
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And we can't wait, especially audience that in the FW area, you are so lucky.
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Dr.
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Lana and her husband is opening their private practice in Dallas that focuses on biological wellness, airway, comprehensive, full mouth dentistry.
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So make sure you follow Dr.
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Lana startup journey.
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And Dr.
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Lana, can you please say a few words for our um audience before we?
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Of course.
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Thank you so much for having me tonight.
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I just remember how it all started with my journey.
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I just wanted to help my own children.
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The more I've learned about it, the more I wanted to help others.
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So I decided, okay, I'm gonna help children in my close family.
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Then I decided to help my, you know, friends' children.
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And then it became my professional and personal passion.
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So, as you know, it may start with your own child, but you never know.
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Through knowing what's going on with your child, you may help so many other children and families to be better, to be healthier and happier.
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It's all about that.
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Thank you so much for having me here tonight.
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Thank you so much for listening in.
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Make sure that you are looking at your kid and sharing this message with other moms, friends, and your professional healthcare provider.
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So raise the wellness and understand that airway is life.
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I'm Dr.
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Katie Toe, and you want to have a wonderful day.
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