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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not told that kibble is the most processed food available on the market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no human food as processed as kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What that means is vegetables, meat, and fats have gone through
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[SPEAKER_00]: an ultra-high heat process that he is killing a lot of the minerals and the proteins and then it creates the mailerid reaction which if you're eating a hot dog or a hamburger and you kind of char broil it that gooey yummy black stuff is actually a known carcinogen that mailerid reaction is what is happening to the kibble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I have a chance to share with you some of the latest developments in the space of holistic health, longevity and wellness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always honored intellectual curiosity and scientific rigor, combined with real world practicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My goal is that what you learn here will help you live longer and live better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you enjoy the journey with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, welcome back to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to enhance your health and enhance your quality of your life, your longevity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, there are many aspects to our health from our own physiology, from our psychology,
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[SPEAKER_01]: from our financial well-being and but also from all the people and things we care about including our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So today is actually going to be the first time that I'm introducing a new subject which is the health of our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and this is a really near and dear to my heart because I love animals and I think there's such incredible gifts to us and to the world because of that and I know how much so many of you absolutely love animals and care about, you know, your little children at home for each
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[SPEAKER_01]: that Naryan to come here and educate us and enlighten us on how we can better the health of our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to introduce Dr. Scarlett Macdalene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Dr. Hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: happy that you're here and I just can't wait to dive in but I want to give people a little bit back around about you so just so they understand that you know your journey you are actually an award winning regenerative veterinarian with over 15 years of experience clinically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in both emergency and general veterinary medicine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you found it the regenerative sanctuary in 2024, which is an innovative veterinary healing service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You combine advancement in human medicine and traditional Chinese medicine to optimize pet's health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dr. Scarlet's mission is to heal without causing harm and to focus on regeneration rather than just repair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She completed her Bachelor of Science at Degree in an and Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine in Ontario Veterinary College.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She completed internship in small animal medicine and surgery and from the fifth avenue, Veterinary and Specialist in 2010.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has been trained in
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's currently training with Dr. Eva Thitt Frick at the Clinical Animal Nutrition Academy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And her experience is that she has seen countless animals with diabetes, obesity, cancer, arthritis, various skin and autoimmune conditions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this inspired her to see what kind of affordable
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[SPEAKER_01]: and regenerative solutions exist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her goal is to help pets live pain-free disease-free, and that's why she created the regenerative sanctuary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to dive into a conversation with Dr. Scarlett, you know, thank you for
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you know, you're drive, I helping animals and going into areas that are really not traditional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a sense that we have similar paths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You for animals, me for humans, and of course I'm all about regenerative medicine and is lovely to hear that your center is called regenerative sanctuary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing I want people probably to have an understanding of
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[SPEAKER_01]: is really the state of animal health care and animal nutrition because then nutrition is always the foundation whether or not is for humans or for animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe give us an idea of where you think animal care is at at this stage and the state of animal nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that we're at an intersection right now of evolving our profession, being in emergency veterinary medicine for 15 years and seeing a pattern developed with certain cases, particularly medicine cases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt that something was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I noticed that there was a parallel between what was happening, whether our pets and what was happening in human medicine, where we're not addressing nutrition, where symptomatically treating things and not going to the root cause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that disturbed me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, for emergency situations, a traumatic event, a fracture, we definitely need modern medicine and surgical care, however, when it comes to core physiologic understanding of going back to basics, how the body works, and how do we support that body in doing what it's designed
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[SPEAKER_00]: That philosophy has sort of left our way of addressing animal health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it became a very protocol-driven, what are the symptoms, what are the differentials, and going to a certain number of tasks, and then you kind of hit a stop gap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that stop gap wasn't, wasn't,
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[SPEAKER_00]: adequate for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I feel that we are at a crossroads because pet owners are frustrated, they're frustrated with the state of their animals who have obesity, chronic conditions that require continuous medications such as diabetes and allergies and skin issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're really not getting better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just having to continue medications and pay these bills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And pet owners are driving the conversation and really doing their research now and coming to veterinarians with alternative ideas and especially when it comes to food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I feel that nutrition needs to be pillar in our education and our foundational knowledge and learning about kibble and the different prescription diets is really not appropriate health advice and that's what we were taught and so
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that there is a shift happening and I'm very optimistic about it, only because I know what the solutions are, but at the moment I do believe that there is somewhat of a crisis going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it has to do with this revolving door of going to the vet and continuing to pay the bills and continuing to have these conditions, I think veterinarians are also wanting always to do the best they can and they're also curious and wanting more just like I was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think those state of the problem is with pet nutrition right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what was the major problem?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were to just look at how food is prepared on your plate versus a bag of kibble, and you would go to the basic understanding of how those two meals were prepared, you would understand the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not told that kibble is the most processed food available on the market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no human food as processed as kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what that means is the vegetables, meat, and fats have gone through
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[SPEAKER_00]: an ultra-high heat process that he is killing a lot of the minerals and the proteins and then it goes through an extrusion process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have heat as a main problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he creates the mailered reaction which if you're eating a hot dog or hamburger and you kind of char
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, that mailed reaction is what is happening to the kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, we have these compounds that are formed from the processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from a Chinese medicine perspective, we look at the thermodynamics of food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, that heat doesn't just disappear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes into the body, and it creates the inflammatory cascade that we see with so many of the disease conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also in order for Kibble to be crunchy and stay in that form in the bag for the amount of years that it says it can stay, there must be a high proportion of carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No dog should have a higher than 25% carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The average Kibble is anywhere from 45 to 60% carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing for cats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cats are strictly con-carnivores, dogs are omnivores.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cats need 90% protein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are much higher rate metabolizers, and they must have protein in their diet in order to function, or they'll start breaking down their own protein in their bodies in order to get that
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[SPEAKER_00]: protein that they need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so feeding a cat kibble is the worst thing a pet owner could do to set them up for a chronic disease situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So looking out moisture, these kibbles are about 8 to 10 percent moisture because the heat has eliminated most of them moisture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be wanting around the 60 to 70 percent moisture in a diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we've killed the bio-evalibility of the new trans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at a label of a kibble, you'll notice a lot of the vitamins and minerals are added back in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is because they were killed in the processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those aren't bio-evelable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just meeting the minimum standards of Afko.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Afko is the body that helps us have nutritional guidelines for animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what most people don't realize that those are minimum requirements, they're not optimal requirements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and they're not bio-evelable for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I'm such a proponent for home cooked meals which would be the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously difficult because it's time-consuming, but you either spend your money on food or you spend it at the vet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want our profession to be here to support animals and living optimal
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[SPEAKER_00]: long pain-free lives, and be there to support them in their regenerative process rather than setting them up for a situation that ends up like we currently have because we aren't taught nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm talking about real nutrition, whole food nutrition, which goes
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if we look at that, we look at Kibble, your plate of home cooked meal, and everything I just said, does that Kibble really look like Madison to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Kibble basically, it's, I mean, what's the percentage of pit owners that actually, that's all they do that they just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that statistic, but I would say it's probably 80%, and I think it's going down because pet owners intuitively are realizing that something's wrong and there are so many fantastic fresh
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[SPEAKER_00]: raw pet food companies out there that are providing good information and good options, and the proof is in the pudding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see the animal before and after eating real food versus
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[SPEAKER_01]: even they love the real food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, because their animals are, first of all, they're losing weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not pooping several times a day with large moist poops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poops should be firm and like where you can grab it and it doesn't break and not volume-ness where they're going several times a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about canned food?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that much better?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, canned food would definitely be a step up from kibble for sure because you're addressing the moisture content, requirements, and it hasn't gone through that ultra-high heat exclusion process, but it's still process to some degree, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's stored in aluminum, and I have not seen a patient yet that doesn't have elevated aluminum levels in their hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Part of it, there's a high level of the metal aluminum, what's going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a neurotoxin and it also displaces body's normal ability to handle its own mineral load.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can address aluminum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not only by trying to eliminate it, but I can tell you it's almost impossible, the chemtrails have aluminum in them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have free aluminum particles in the environment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just the current state of our world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so rather than going on like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: giant aluminum elimination hung, which is very difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's imperative to be having your animal on the best diet and supplements possible, and that customization is what it allows for the body to arm itself with the tools to deal with these heavy metals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no diet that has the adequate minerals your animal needs or you need because the energy consumption of every animal is unique and therefore
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[SPEAKER_00]: The minerals are the building blocks to the cells, they're carrying the charges for the electrical conduction to occur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so having the appropriate minerals for that time of state of that animal is the customization that's needed for it to deal with the situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can actually have the body kick aluminum out if it has appropriate calcium,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot of animals with high aluminum, but if their iron isn't high, it tells me they're dealing, they're able to deal with the aluminum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If the iron's high, you know, you've reached detox capacity, now you need to really support the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what about adding something like full big acid?
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[SPEAKER_01]: back into food, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So phobic acid is, you know, full of minerals and they added back in agriculture for plants to grow better and now we can give it to humans, brings about all these minerals into into the body and into the cellular, you know, intracellular space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not not a one single molecule but a group of essential nutrients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the full of the gas is what I use, I mean, I use for my patients, but I do sometimes give it to my pets, thinking that if these help the plants the grow better, because that's a natural breakdown product from plant matter that should be in the soil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I use is actually extracted from a deep earth layer that's from the crustation period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I add back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But definitely, I'm not talking about single nutrient, that's very limited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to give them a group of essential molecules that's good for life period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the full-vac acid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have to look it up because it hasn't been introduced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm maybe this, so maybe it would be good things to always get things terrible to add in or grab because it or humans do much better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a podcast on it on the full-the-gassid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it could be a good equalizer because this doctor, a naturopathic doctor, what he found was when he used to carry over 200 supplements in his clinic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after some people get better, some people don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we introduce the folic acid, it's like an equalizer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now everybody's getting better because you're replenishing a lot of the essential signals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it brings up the ability of the body for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he has much less supplements, so because he's giving something more foundational.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a browner substance that should be in our soil, but our soil is so depleted that what they found is that in agriculture where they first started, when they put back that full-vick acid, then plants grow so much better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, as humans, we eat those plants and expecting that we're going to get the nutrients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which we were not for a long time, you know, in recent history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, till this day, probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at such a confusing area, I think for a lot of people, exactly what do we do for our animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are also, you know, just different schools, schools of thought, and I saw somebody, I think he's a vet on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was saying that you should feature animals once a day so that they have a chance to
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess breakdown, you know, the digestive system to rest, and breakdown, I think he was talking about autophagy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But humans, biohackers, definitely we're talking about eating once a day, we're twice a day, but I also read for animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were, for like cats, they need to eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, more than once a day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's not good for their system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even that, you know, what, what is the truth?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is definite benefits to intermittent fasting, which most of us are aware of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: These animals in nature are not typically eating several times a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're usually eating like a smaller window just because of their ability to hunt and find food and
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[SPEAKER_00]: satiety and how much do they really want to hunt versus rest?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so looking at natural patterns helps to enter that question in congruence with our current lifestyle, which a cat in your house does not have anywhere near the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lifestyle is a wild outdoor cat or
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to suggest feeding animals, the cats and dogs within an eight-hour window.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with dogs, it's more possible to do one meal a day, but if they've been on a kibble diet and they're fed morning and night, you need to give them like two, three months to adjust to that schedule, because it's also thermodynamically that kibble is so high in carbs and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very different energetic profile than a freeze-dried raw or fresh food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they're just more hungry, more awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the more hungry, more often, is from the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they're burning through them fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're not getting the nutrients that they need for the reasons I mentioned at the beginning, so having the more protein and the real food is going to change that behavior of the eat hungry eat fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So dogs, okay, so with cats,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they can go into a dangerous situation if they don't eat for five days and that is it's a life threatening emergency and they're breaking down their fat and protein and they're making a ton of acids and so that's the reason why you don't want to put them into that high stress
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you have them in that eight hour window, you'll be fine with dogs, they sometimes can develop something called billiast vomiting syndrome where if they don't have a meal within, I would say like six hours of of going to sleep and then in the morning they can often throw up and that's just from having like this empty stomach and with those
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think unless you're detoxing something like a toxin or a food that is perished or contaminated, vomiting isn't the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the system you're having acid hit the soft against and how you're doing with all servers and so if there's a lot of vomiting going on it's it can become a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in nature are we are they always able to eat within six hours?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there I'm just saying for our lifestyle here at home where we can control everything and things are so controlled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well that's very helpful, um, you know, to know that, um, you know, as far as how often to feed the animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying for dogs is it's probably okay to do once a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have trained them to get to that point, I see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for cats, um, they do tend to break down their own tissue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if they don't have enough protein so we have been taught to feed cats a low protein diet if they have kidney disease and it's actually harmful because they don't change their metabolism
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[SPEAKER_00]: of how they assimilate protein, whether or not they have kidney disease, they have to have protein in the diet in the same amount.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like something that we've as a miss that yeah, I need to be opening it anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was spring just so nice to the animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the vets who've tried giving high protein, which is what a normal cow would eat, to with kidney disease, are not seeing negative consequences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they're actually seeing
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[SPEAKER_00]: positive consequences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Protein is vital for cats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of amino acids that they can't make that dogs can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, like torrentine, torrentine, it has to come from the meat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, those frozen foods in the frozen section.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that would be a step up above the canned food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they, are they that good?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do we have to be very careful with that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, here's the two things I would arm people with when looking at label.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So one is what are the first foreign gradients?
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[SPEAKER_00]: in at least one of those frozen diets I saw corn as the third ingredient or sweet potato or any other carb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did not see any organ meats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats and dogs need 10% organ meats in their diet every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like riety, because the minerals and the proteins that are in those organs are not- they're super concentrated and they're not the same as your sexy chicken thigh, which completely different profile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So look for organ meats in those frozen diets and look at where are the carbs on the ingredient list as far as closer to the top or more at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those would be the two things that I would be looking out for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So ideally, first one is some kind of meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that not mean though, because meat meal can be anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's the problem with the meal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could take a whole chicken and have like all different body parts put through a blender and that's what you're getting and so you don't know like how much as feathers versus bone versus meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the actual chicken, it legally has to qualify as the meat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first ingredient made, and hopefully the second ingredient, some kind of organ meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So having like the first two be like two different kinds of meats and then the third could be like a broccoli or a carrot or
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[SPEAKER_00]: peas, but just be aware of things like lentils, sweet potato, corn, wheat, which are all okay as long as not GMO corn because we have a whole thing with glyceph glyphosate that I could get into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So having a general sense of how higher those high-starch vegetables on the list and then your organ meets are usually like the third or fourth ingredient and then there's just a lot of different variety of vegetables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even for cats, you're okay with all those vegetables as a result.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, having looking at the percentage, guaranteed analysis, which is confusing when you're looking at a frozen food because moisture is going to occupy a lot of the percentage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so sometimes when you see the protein, it can be like, oh, it's 10% protein and that can seem like low.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In general, you just want to be aware of the ash and the fiber and I can help, it's too much math for me to just tell you how to do it, but for, and I'm happy to provide this like option for people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is two steps they have to do in order to know how much carbs are in a frozen
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[SPEAKER_00]: a dry food, dry food is easier to discern, but in general, just use your intuition how much of this frozen food is me versus vegetables for a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how much is supposed to be meat?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 90%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 90%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you need to take, take away the moisture account.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, take out the moisture and among the rest 90% should be, should be meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was the 80% meat with 10% organ meats and then 10% vegetables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, I just wanted to make sure people have a practical tip when they actually go to the store to buy it for their pets and know that they're getting a really good one for their pets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and if they want to cook at home, animal diet for a meal later, ADF is a great tool where you can
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[SPEAKER_00]: subscribe for the home formular formulator and you just follow it and then it will tell you how much of what food to put to put your pets food together and I can tell you that those diets are safer human consumption as well obviously not the raw ones because we don't have the same gut as cats and dogs for eating raw food but a home cooked meal
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think one other problem is that some of the herbs we use, I mean, I'm happy to share my food with an animal, but some of the seasonings we use are problematic, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So supposedly was it like an in garlic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's another myth that I was a deep-punked one I went to cheat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if an animal eats an entire
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[SPEAKER_00]: clove of garlic or a bulb of onion, you're going to have problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's just the small amounts that we're putting to season our food, it's actually going to have the same benefits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: anti-oxidizing anti-inflammatory benefits as it would for us and so it's a matter of how a custom is your animal to these spices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kiam Pepper is going to move the cheese going to move the energy but of course it's super hot so you just want to be mindful of how much we're using and so this comes down to exposure like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ideally, cats and dogs should have three to four different diets needs a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something we're used to doing, and it's like a very different lifestyle change, but to get to that point, you've slowly have to introduce all these different foods because they may have been on a single diet this whole time, and so it's just getting them used to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so
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[SPEAKER_00]: these spices and foods and different vegetables as you're eating yourself and slowly just give them like one teaspoon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That will be nice because that's what they want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was remarked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: More about these spices that's scared me and I thought, okay, now I have to cook something separately for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then that's extra, you know, time and barrier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's so much easier if I can just share the food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, ginger, turmeric, these are all fantastic spices for us and our animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing they can't have is chocolate and grapes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, it's a pretty fair gift for both cats and dogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats and dogs, chocolate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats, they don't have a grape issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't really understand, like, what is it in the great specifically that creates the kidney failure, um, and then, uh, Lily or dogs for dogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a wide list that you can start off with your handle, that those are the only two things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there other things that they, we have to be real?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what, you know, we're taught not to give them avocado and they can't have avocado.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a question of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have they been eating this whole time because avocado has high fat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they've been on a high-carp diet, their gut biome is altered to not have the specific bacteria that are needed to help break down fat because it's not just the lipase and the bile that's breaking down fat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also the bacteria in the gut, and so if the food has been like a mono type food, then they don't have the diversity in their biome to handle these new foods, like avocado, for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just a matter of, and you know, some animals are like dogs or
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[SPEAKER_00]: they'll vomit with peanut butter because it has high fat, but that's just because they're not used to that fat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's a matter of introducing these foods to your animal over one to two months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, well, that would make things a lot easier if we can share some of the food, you know, with them, that that would be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did attempt to make a whole batch of food for my cats following a recipe, but they didn't want to eat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that was...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it can be difficult to transition them if they've been on a can or kibble diet because there's also certain sprays that have been added to make that kibble attractive and so, and they become carb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hoarders, where just like us, if we're exposed to potato chips, you can't stop eating them, it's the same thing with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so basically you just bring your new food next to what they're currently eating and like slowly have them get the choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can like get a custom to, oh, what is that other food there and just be super patient?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, and use a kibble, but there are these freeze dried, you know, yep, pellets, yes, you can get, how, how good are they?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're excellent because they're the least processed, um, of, of the, um, prepared on the shell foods that do last quite a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they have had the moisture vacuumed out of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so a lot of the availability of your proteins and your minerals are going to be there, the only thing to be mindful of, especially for a cat, is they need that moisture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So adding water to the freeze-dried raw would be a great way to address the moisture deficiency in the freeze-dried raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then whatever meat you're eating, lamb, chicken, fish, just give it to your cat, give them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that they will drink enough water on their own, but sometimes they don't, just like people, we forget.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think as they become more in tune with a natural system of foods, their patterns will improve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just my intuition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't looked at any research on this, but it's just kind of what's coming through as you're talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is where like having these fun
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things like the the water fountain Doing courage them to drink is important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about salt?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you concerned with the salt and human food?
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[SPEAKER_00]: not really Salt is going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: increase their water load, it's going to increase their blood volume, their blood pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a cardiac condition, then that's a situation to be mindful of, but I think that we've been overly cautious with salt to the point where it's causing problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is the emergency, most important mineral in our body because your sodium potassium pump is handling every single interaction in your body every second and so that mineral needs to be present in the body for it to function and so I think if there isn't cardiac issues then
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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever normal or intuitive amount of salt that you would have is appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes off taste.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you could taste it and see, is it super bland or is it super salty?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the animal will know too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do they also prefer a little bit of salt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, does that make the food taste better to them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: From like a research standpoint, I don't have an answer to that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious about you utilizing Chinese medicine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So until I met you, I didn't really know that people were using that on animals and growing up in China.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one was talking about using Chinese medicine on animals either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just wondering how that came about and, you know, what's the history of it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how does it work exactly?
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[SPEAKER_00]: basic fundamentals of Chinese medicine for humans is for the most part very easily adaptable to animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I say for the most part, I'm talking about five elements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is the constitution of that animal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they a fire dog or they a metal dog?
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's the same for a human.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's this personality survey that you use to help decide what kind of core constitution personality is that animal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So same principles we have
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of those principles are the saying for all beings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you start to understand that the core functioning of the body, where the spleen liver and stomach is the middle burner for a human in an animal,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see how logical it is for this to translate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the Chinese studied nature and humans for 8,000 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they took that knowledge and created the field of traditional Chinese medicine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2000 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As far as when it got translated to animals, I don't have the exact information for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I can tell you is Dr. Shei took his knowledge from China and brought it to America,
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the early 1980s, and he created she in diversity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I believe that institution's 20 years old, and I apologize, I have to literally look it up to tell you, but it's in my lifetime that this science got brought to America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, from a Western standpoint, it's relatively new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how I got into it is I was, as I said earlier, really frustrated with where things currently stood in Western medicine, not understanding the root cause of disease, not understanding like, why are we feeding kibble and not real food?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was told by a vet student colleague of mine,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a whole institution called Sheen University that teaches traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture can cure a lot of conditions and she was showing me that before and after of her cases, particularly like back injuries, leanness, and I was like, okay,
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[SPEAKER_00]: system that works with the body's energetic system to heal it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when I went to the Qi website, the thing that really caught me in addition to five elements theory, which is your basic, is the food therapy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once I got the book,
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[SPEAKER_00]: traditional Chinese, but in our medicine food therapy, I was hooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I have been craving this my whole life and now I mean I'm still on an expert in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's takes a while, but you literally learn not just the thermodynamics of food like lamb is the hottest meat for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cucumber is cooling, but you also learn like how different foods can decrease a deema, address constipation, address diarrhea, and now you're armed with natural whole food ingredients that you can recommend to the pet owner to assist in supporting that disease condition going back to homeostasis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's wonderful, that through Acupuncture, that kind of convinced you of the energy channels being a real thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, and then the only reason why I didn't study it is because the Arcania laser came into my field, and I then learned about mitochondrial activation and how the laser can regenerate these organs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I then became fascinated with the laser and decided that I'm going to put my efforts into regenerative medicine and bring in or refer to people doing acupuncture just because it takes
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe my next 10 years I'll take it on, but tremendous respect for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For anybody that who comes to get stem cell treatment for me, we're using the laser while they're getting stem cell infusions to make the stem cells more viable, more active, more mobile, and then we can also attract the cells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we're infusing into the area that we really want them to be in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's a multipurpose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what have you seen with the laser on the animals or conia laser?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Miracles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a case that just came to me last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a wroughtweiler who had a chipped shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a piece of the top of the humorous was floating in the musculature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is like your worst situation because you can't go cutting through the muscles looking for this little bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do with a small fracture at the top of a bone, surgically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had this owner rent my violet green and my red laser for a week and gave her protocol in
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[SPEAKER_00]: The dog is completely sound now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a week now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean presenting this case on Monday, I have a two hour lecture if anyone's interested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be my bonus case because it's just so exciting to watch this dog who's like limping and sad and painful be completely like happy and sound in a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, oh, what do you think the laser did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the red is recruiting stem cells and decreasing inflammation and pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The violet is activating complex one in two on the electron transport chain so you have the beginning of the mitochondrial activation cascade happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if there's any microbials there, it's addressing them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: than the green is activating osteoblasts and having bone remodeling reformation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we have all free wavelengths, we're dealing with addressing the chipped bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're helping the body rebuild itself through its own healing pathways by activating the stem cells and the mitochondria.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and decreasing pain and inflammation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think you could have a better tool in your kit for a case like this than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think the fragment was, you know, came out of the muscle then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's being absorbed by the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be cool to see an x-ray in two months because I'm thinking that it's being drawn to where the chip is and it's creating a callous but time will tell but it's fascinating that so so it may be the the chip, the fragments of the edges got smooth from the laser so it's not
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we'll see you at the repeat x-ray shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I have to let you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can people find you to get help from you for their pets?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my website, the regenerativesankshurie.com is a great place and my email is Dr. ScarletVet at jemel.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love doing virtual consoles, helping with nutrition and customizing your plan, all of my products or non-prescription, their specific supplements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really easy to work with anyone anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: addition to your health care team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for the work you're doing to help the animals that you're drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know it all came from you just really caring about their well-being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just want them to live a good life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for your heart, which drives all this knowledge that you're seeking and helping others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so I'm sure all these animals are grateful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a human being out there trying to look out for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always my pleasure and things are having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for all you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Dr. Scarlet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope everyone has enjoyed this episode on our pets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not told that kibble is the most processed food available on the market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no human food as processed as kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What that means is vegetables, meat, and fats have gone through
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[SPEAKER_00]: an ultra-high heat process that he is killing a lot of the minerals and the proteins and then it creates the mailerid reaction which if you're eating a hot dog or a hamburger and you kind of char broil it that gooey yummy black stuff is actually a known carcinogen that mailerid reaction is what is happening to the kibble.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I have a chance to share with you some of the latest developments in the space of holistic health, longevity and wellness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always honored intellectual curiosity and scientific rigor, combined with real world practicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My goal is that what you learn here will help you live longer and live better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you enjoy the journey with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, welcome back to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to enhance your health and enhance your quality of your life, your longevity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, there are many aspects to our health from our own physiology, from our psychology,
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[SPEAKER_01]: from our financial well-being and but also from all the people and things we care about including our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So today is actually going to be the first time that I'm introducing a new subject which is the health of our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and this is a really near and dear to my heart because I love animals and I think there's such incredible gifts to us and to the world because of that and I know how much so many of you absolutely love animals and care about, you know, your little children at home for each
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[SPEAKER_01]: that Naryan to come here and educate us and enlighten us on how we can better the health of our pets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to introduce Dr. Scarlett Macdalene.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Dr. Hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: happy that you're here and I just can't wait to dive in but I want to give people a little bit back around about you so just so they understand that you know your journey you are actually an award winning regenerative veterinarian with over 15 years of experience clinically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in both emergency and general veterinary medicine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you found it the regenerative sanctuary in 2024, which is an innovative veterinary healing service.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You combine advancement in human medicine and traditional Chinese medicine to optimize pet's health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dr. Scarlet's mission is to heal without causing harm and to focus on regeneration rather than just repair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She completed her Bachelor of Science at Degree in an and Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine in Ontario Veterinary College.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She completed internship in small animal medicine and surgery and from the fifth avenue, Veterinary and Specialist in 2010.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has been trained in
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's currently training with Dr. Eva Thitt Frick at the Clinical Animal Nutrition Academy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And her experience is that she has seen countless animals with diabetes, obesity, cancer, arthritis, various skin and autoimmune conditions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this inspired her to see what kind of affordable
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[SPEAKER_01]: and regenerative solutions exist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Her goal is to help pets live pain-free disease-free, and that's why she created the regenerative sanctuary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to dive into a conversation with Dr. Scarlett, you know, thank you for
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you know, you're drive, I helping animals and going into areas that are really not traditional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a sense that we have similar paths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You for animals, me for humans, and of course I'm all about regenerative medicine and is lovely to hear that your center is called regenerative sanctuary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing I want people probably to have an understanding of
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[SPEAKER_01]: is really the state of animal health care and animal nutrition because then nutrition is always the foundation whether or not is for humans or for animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe give us an idea of where you think animal care is at at this stage and the state of animal nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that we're at an intersection right now of evolving our profession, being in emergency veterinary medicine for 15 years and seeing a pattern developed with certain cases, particularly medicine cases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt that something was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I noticed that there was a parallel between what was happening, whether our pets and what was happening in human medicine, where we're not addressing nutrition, where symptomatically treating things and not going to the root cause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that disturbed me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, for emergency situations, a traumatic event, a fracture, we definitely need modern medicine and surgical care, however, when it comes to core physiologic understanding of going back to basics, how the body works, and how do we support that body in doing what it's designed
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[SPEAKER_00]: That philosophy has sort of left our way of addressing animal health.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it became a very protocol-driven, what are the symptoms, what are the differentials, and going to a certain number of tasks, and then you kind of hit a stop gap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that stop gap wasn't, wasn't,
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[SPEAKER_00]: adequate for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I feel that we are at a crossroads because pet owners are frustrated, they're frustrated with the state of their animals who have obesity, chronic conditions that require continuous medications such as diabetes and allergies and skin issues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're really not getting better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just having to continue medications and pay these bills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And pet owners are driving the conversation and really doing their research now and coming to veterinarians with alternative ideas and especially when it comes to food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I feel that nutrition needs to be pillar in our education and our foundational knowledge and learning about kibble and the different prescription diets is really not appropriate health advice and that's what we were taught and so
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel that there is a shift happening and I'm very optimistic about it, only because I know what the solutions are, but at the moment I do believe that there is somewhat of a crisis going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it has to do with this revolving door of going to the vet and continuing to pay the bills and continuing to have these conditions, I think veterinarians are also wanting always to do the best they can and they're also curious and wanting more just like I was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think those state of the problem is with pet nutrition right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what was the major problem?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were to just look at how food is prepared on your plate versus a bag of kibble, and you would go to the basic understanding of how those two meals were prepared, you would understand the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not told that kibble is the most processed food available on the market.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no human food as processed as kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what that means is the vegetables, meat, and fats have gone through
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[SPEAKER_00]: an ultra-high heat process that he is killing a lot of the minerals and the proteins and then it goes through an extrusion process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have heat as a main problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he creates the mailered reaction which if you're eating a hot dog or hamburger and you kind of char
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, that mailed reaction is what is happening to the kibble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, we have these compounds that are formed from the processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from a Chinese medicine perspective, we look at the thermodynamics of food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, that heat doesn't just disappear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes into the body, and it creates the inflammatory cascade that we see with so many of the disease conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also in order for Kibble to be crunchy and stay in that form in the bag for the amount of years that it says it can stay, there must be a high proportion of carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No dog should have a higher than 25% carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The average Kibble is anywhere from 45 to 60% carbohydrates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing for cats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cats are strictly con-carnivores, dogs are omnivores.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cats need 90% protein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are much higher rate metabolizers, and they must have protein in their diet in order to function, or they'll start breaking down their own protein in their bodies in order to get that
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[SPEAKER_00]: protein that they need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so feeding a cat kibble is the worst thing a pet owner could do to set them up for a chronic disease situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So looking out moisture, these kibbles are about 8 to 10 percent moisture because the heat has eliminated most of them moisture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd be wanting around the 60 to 70 percent moisture in a diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we've killed the bio-evalibility of the new trans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at a label of a kibble, you'll notice a lot of the vitamins and minerals are added back in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is because they were killed in the processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But those aren't bio-evelable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just meeting the minimum standards of Afko.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Afko is the body that helps us have nutritional guidelines for animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what most people don't realize that those are minimum requirements, they're not optimal requirements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and they're not bio-evelable for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I'm such a proponent for home cooked meals which would be the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously difficult because it's time-consuming, but you either spend your money on food or you spend it at the vet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want our profession to be here to support animals and living optimal
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[SPEAKER_00]: long pain-free lives, and be there to support them in their regenerative process rather than setting them up for a situation that ends up like we currently have because we aren't taught nutrition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm talking about real nutrition, whole food nutrition, which goes
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if we look at that, we look at Kibble, your plate of home cooked meal, and everything I just said, does that Kibble really look like Madison to you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Kibble basically, it's, I mean, what's the percentage of pit owners that actually, that's all they do that they just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that statistic, but I would say it's probably 80%, and I think it's going down because pet owners intuitively are realizing that something's wrong and there are so many fantastic fresh
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[SPEAKER_00]: raw pet food companies out there that are providing good information and good options, and the proof is in the pudding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see the animal before and after eating real food versus
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[SPEAKER_01]: even they love the real food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, because their animals are, first of all, they're losing weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not pooping several times a day with large moist poops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poops should be firm and like where you can grab it and it doesn't break and not volume-ness where they're going several times a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about canned food?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that much better?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, canned food would definitely be a step up from kibble for sure because you're addressing the moisture content, requirements, and it hasn't gone through that ultra-high heat exclusion process, but it's still process to some degree, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's stored in aluminum, and I have not seen a patient yet that doesn't have elevated aluminum levels in their hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Part of it, there's a high level of the metal aluminum, what's going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a neurotoxin and it also displaces body's normal ability to handle its own mineral load.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can address aluminum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not only by trying to eliminate it, but I can tell you it's almost impossible, the chemtrails have aluminum in them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have free aluminum particles in the environment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just the current state of our world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so rather than going on like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: giant aluminum elimination hung, which is very difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's imperative to be having your animal on the best diet and supplements possible, and that customization is what it allows for the body to arm itself with the tools to deal with these heavy metals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no diet that has the adequate minerals your animal needs or you need because the energy consumption of every animal is unique and therefore
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[SPEAKER_00]: The minerals are the building blocks to the cells, they're carrying the charges for the electrical conduction to occur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so having the appropriate minerals for that time of state of that animal is the customization that's needed for it to deal with the situation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can actually have the body kick aluminum out if it has appropriate calcium,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot of animals with high aluminum, but if their iron isn't high, it tells me they're dealing, they're able to deal with the aluminum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If the iron's high, you know, you've reached detox capacity, now you need to really support the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what about adding something like full big acid?
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[SPEAKER_01]: back into food, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So phobic acid is, you know, full of minerals and they added back in agriculture for plants to grow better and now we can give it to humans, brings about all these minerals into into the body and into the cellular, you know, intracellular space.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not not a one single molecule but a group of essential nutrients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the full of the gas is what I use, I mean, I use for my patients, but I do sometimes give it to my pets, thinking that if these help the plants the grow better, because that's a natural breakdown product from plant matter that should be in the soil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I use is actually extracted from a deep earth layer that's from the crustation period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I add back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But definitely, I'm not talking about single nutrient, that's very limited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to give them a group of essential molecules that's good for life period.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the full-vac acid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have to look it up because it hasn't been introduced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm maybe this, so maybe it would be good things to always get things terrible to add in or grab because it or humans do much better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a podcast on it on the full-the-gassid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it could be a good equalizer because this doctor, a naturopathic doctor, what he found was when he used to carry over 200 supplements in his clinic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after some people get better, some people don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we introduce the folic acid, it's like an equalizer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now everybody's getting better because you're replenishing a lot of the essential signals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it brings up the ability of the body for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he has much less supplements, so because he's giving something more foundational.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a browner substance that should be in our soil, but our soil is so depleted that what they found is that in agriculture where they first started, when they put back that full-vick acid, then plants grow so much better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, as humans, we eat those plants and expecting that we're going to get the nutrients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which we were not for a long time, you know, in recent history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, till this day, probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at such a confusing area, I think for a lot of people, exactly what do we do for our animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are also, you know, just different schools, schools of thought, and I saw somebody, I think he's a vet on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was saying that you should feature animals once a day so that they have a chance to
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess breakdown, you know, the digestive system to rest, and breakdown, I think he was talking about autophagy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But humans, biohackers, definitely we're talking about eating once a day, we're twice a day, but I also read for animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were, for like cats, they need to eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, more than once a day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's not good for their system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even that, you know, what, what is the truth?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is definite benefits to intermittent fasting, which most of us are aware of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: These animals in nature are not typically eating several times a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're usually eating like a smaller window just because of their ability to hunt and find food and
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[SPEAKER_00]: satiety and how much do they really want to hunt versus rest?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so looking at natural patterns helps to enter that question in congruence with our current lifestyle, which a cat in your house does not have anywhere near the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lifestyle is a wild outdoor cat or
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to suggest feeding animals, the cats and dogs within an eight-hour window.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with dogs, it's more possible to do one meal a day, but if they've been on a kibble diet and they're fed morning and night, you need to give them like two, three months to adjust to that schedule, because it's also thermodynamically that kibble is so high in carbs and
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very different energetic profile than a freeze-dried raw or fresh food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they're just more hungry, more awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the more hungry, more often, is from the carbs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they're burning through them fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're not getting the nutrients that they need for the reasons I mentioned at the beginning, so having the more protein and the real food is going to change that behavior of the eat hungry eat fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So dogs, okay, so with cats,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they can go into a dangerous situation if they don't eat for five days and that is it's a life threatening emergency and they're breaking down their fat and protein and they're making a ton of acids and so that's the reason why you don't want to put them into that high stress
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you have them in that eight hour window, you'll be fine with dogs, they sometimes can develop something called billiast vomiting syndrome where if they don't have a meal within, I would say like six hours of of going to sleep and then in the morning they can often throw up and that's just from having like this empty stomach and with those
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think unless you're detoxing something like a toxin or a food that is perished or contaminated, vomiting isn't the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the system you're having acid hit the soft against and how you're doing with all servers and so if there's a lot of vomiting going on it's it can become a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in nature are we are they always able to eat within six hours?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there I'm just saying for our lifestyle here at home where we can control everything and things are so controlled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well that's very helpful, um, you know, to know that, um, you know, as far as how often to feed the animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying for dogs is it's probably okay to do once a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have trained them to get to that point, I see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for cats, um, they do tend to break down their own tissue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if they don't have enough protein so we have been taught to feed cats a low protein diet if they have kidney disease and it's actually harmful because they don't change their metabolism
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[SPEAKER_00]: of how they assimilate protein, whether or not they have kidney disease, they have to have protein in the diet in the same amount.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like something that we've as a miss that yeah, I need to be opening it anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was spring just so nice to the animals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the vets who've tried giving high protein, which is what a normal cow would eat, to with kidney disease, are not seeing negative consequences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they're actually seeing
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[SPEAKER_00]: positive consequences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Protein is vital for cats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of amino acids that they can't make that dogs can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, like torrentine, torrentine, it has to come from the meat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, those frozen foods in the frozen section.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that would be a step up above the canned food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they, are they that good?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do we have to be very careful with that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, here's the two things I would arm people with when looking at label.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So one is what are the first foreign gradients?
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[SPEAKER_00]: in at least one of those frozen diets I saw corn as the third ingredient or sweet potato or any other carb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did not see any organ meats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats and dogs need 10% organ meats in their diet every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like riety, because the minerals and the proteins that are in those organs are not- they're super concentrated and they're not the same as your sexy chicken thigh, which completely different profile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So look for organ meats in those frozen diets and look at where are the carbs on the ingredient list as far as closer to the top or more at the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those would be the two things that I would be looking out for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So ideally, first one is some kind of meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that not mean though, because meat meal can be anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's the problem with the meal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could take a whole chicken and have like all different body parts put through a blender and that's what you're getting and so you don't know like how much as feathers versus bone versus meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with the actual chicken, it legally has to qualify as the meat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first ingredient made, and hopefully the second ingredient, some kind of organ meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So having like the first two be like two different kinds of meats and then the third could be like a broccoli or a carrot or
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[SPEAKER_00]: peas, but just be aware of things like lentils, sweet potato, corn, wheat, which are all okay as long as not GMO corn because we have a whole thing with glyceph glyphosate that I could get into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So having a general sense of how higher those high-starch vegetables on the list and then your organ meets are usually like the third or fourth ingredient and then there's just a lot of different variety of vegetables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even for cats, you're okay with all those vegetables as a result.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, having looking at the percentage, guaranteed analysis, which is confusing when you're looking at a frozen food because moisture is going to occupy a lot of the percentage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so sometimes when you see the protein, it can be like, oh, it's 10% protein and that can seem like low.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In general, you just want to be aware of the ash and the fiber and I can help, it's too much math for me to just tell you how to do it, but for, and I'm happy to provide this like option for people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is two steps they have to do in order to know how much carbs are in a frozen
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[SPEAKER_00]: a dry food, dry food is easier to discern, but in general, just use your intuition how much of this frozen food is me versus vegetables for a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how much is supposed to be meat?
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[SPEAKER_01]: 90%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 90%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you need to take, take away the moisture account.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, take out the moisture and among the rest 90% should be, should be meat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was the 80% meat with 10% organ meats and then 10% vegetables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, I just wanted to make sure people have a practical tip when they actually go to the store to buy it for their pets and know that they're getting a really good one for their pets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and if they want to cook at home, animal diet for a meal later, ADF is a great tool where you can
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[SPEAKER_00]: subscribe for the home formular formulator and you just follow it and then it will tell you how much of what food to put to put your pets food together and I can tell you that those diets are safer human consumption as well obviously not the raw ones because we don't have the same gut as cats and dogs for eating raw food but a home cooked meal
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think one other problem is that some of the herbs we use, I mean, I'm happy to share my food with an animal, but some of the seasonings we use are problematic, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So supposedly was it like an in garlic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's another myth that I was a deep-punked one I went to cheat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if an animal eats an entire
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[SPEAKER_00]: clove of garlic or a bulb of onion, you're going to have problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's just the small amounts that we're putting to season our food, it's actually going to have the same benefits.
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[SPEAKER_00]: anti-oxidizing anti-inflammatory benefits as it would for us and so it's a matter of how a custom is your animal to these spices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kiam Pepper is going to move the cheese going to move the energy but of course it's super hot so you just want to be mindful of how much we're using and so this comes down to exposure like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ideally, cats and dogs should have three to four different diets needs a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something we're used to doing, and it's like a very different lifestyle change, but to get to that point, you've slowly have to introduce all these different foods because they may have been on a single diet this whole time, and so it's just getting them used to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so
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[SPEAKER_00]: these spices and foods and different vegetables as you're eating yourself and slowly just give them like one teaspoon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That will be nice because that's what they want to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was remarked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: More about these spices that's scared me and I thought, okay, now I have to cook something separately for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then that's extra, you know, time and barrier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's so much easier if I can just share the food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, ginger, turmeric, these are all fantastic spices for us and our animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing they can't have is chocolate and grapes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, it's a pretty fair gift for both cats and dogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats and dogs, chocolate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cats, they don't have a grape issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't really understand, like, what is it in the great specifically that creates the kidney failure, um, and then, uh, Lily or dogs for dogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a wide list that you can start off with your handle, that those are the only two things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are there other things that they, we have to be real?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what, you know, we're taught not to give them avocado and they can't have avocado.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a question of,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What have they been eating this whole time because avocado has high fat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they've been on a high-carp diet, their gut biome is altered to not have the specific bacteria that are needed to help break down fat because it's not just the lipase and the bile that's breaking down fat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also the bacteria in the gut, and so if the food has been like a mono type food, then they don't have the diversity in their biome to handle these new foods, like avocado, for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just a matter of, and you know, some animals are like dogs or
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[SPEAKER_00]: they'll vomit with peanut butter because it has high fat, but that's just because they're not used to that fat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's a matter of introducing these foods to your animal over one to two months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, well, that would make things a lot easier if we can share some of the food, you know, with them, that that would be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did attempt to make a whole batch of food for my cats following a recipe, but they didn't want to eat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that was...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it can be difficult to transition them if they've been on a can or kibble diet because there's also certain sprays that have been added to make that kibble attractive and so, and they become carb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hoarders, where just like us, if we're exposed to potato chips, you can't stop eating them, it's the same thing with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so basically you just bring your new food next to what they're currently eating and like slowly have them get the choice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can like get a custom to, oh, what is that other food there and just be super patient?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, and use a kibble, but there are these freeze dried, you know, yep, pellets, yes, you can get, how, how good are they?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're excellent because they're the least processed, um, of, of the, um, prepared on the shell foods that do last quite a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they have had the moisture vacuumed out of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so a lot of the availability of your proteins and your minerals are going to be there, the only thing to be mindful of, especially for a cat, is they need that moisture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So adding water to the freeze-dried raw would be a great way to address the moisture deficiency in the freeze-dried raw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then whatever meat you're eating, lamb, chicken, fish, just give it to your cat, give them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that they will drink enough water on their own, but sometimes they don't, just like people, we forget.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think as they become more in tune with a natural system of foods, their patterns will improve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just my intuition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't looked at any research on this, but it's just kind of what's coming through as you're talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is where like having these fun
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[SPEAKER_00]: Things like the the water fountain Doing courage them to drink is important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about salt?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you concerned with the salt and human food?
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[SPEAKER_00]: not really Salt is going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: increase their water load, it's going to increase their blood volume, their blood pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a cardiac condition, then that's a situation to be mindful of, but I think that we've been overly cautious with salt to the point where it's causing problems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is the emergency, most important mineral in our body because your sodium potassium pump is handling every single interaction in your body every second and so that mineral needs to be present in the body for it to function and so I think if there isn't cardiac issues then
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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever normal or intuitive amount of salt that you would have is appropriate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes off taste.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you could taste it and see, is it super bland or is it super salty?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the animal will know too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do they also prefer a little bit of salt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, does that make the food taste better to them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: From like a research standpoint, I don't have an answer to that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm curious about you utilizing Chinese medicine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So until I met you, I didn't really know that people were using that on animals and growing up in China.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one was talking about using Chinese medicine on animals either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just wondering how that came about and, you know, what's the history of it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how does it work exactly?
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[SPEAKER_00]: basic fundamentals of Chinese medicine for humans is for the most part very easily adaptable to animals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I say for the most part, I'm talking about five elements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is the constitution of that animal?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they a fire dog or they a metal dog?
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's the same for a human.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's this personality survey that you use to help decide what kind of core constitution personality is that animal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So same principles we have
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of those principles are the saying for all beings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you start to understand that the core functioning of the body, where the spleen liver and stomach is the middle burner for a human in an animal,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see how logical it is for this to translate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the Chinese studied nature and humans for 8,000 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they took that knowledge and created the field of traditional Chinese medicine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 2000 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As far as when it got translated to animals, I don't have the exact information for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I can tell you is Dr. Shei took his knowledge from China and brought it to America,
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the early 1980s, and he created she in diversity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I believe that institution's 20 years old, and I apologize, I have to literally look it up to tell you, but it's in my lifetime that this science got brought to America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, from a Western standpoint, it's relatively new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how I got into it is I was, as I said earlier, really frustrated with where things currently stood in Western medicine, not understanding the root cause of disease, not understanding like, why are we feeding kibble and not real food?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was told by a vet student colleague of mine,
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a whole institution called Sheen University that teaches traditional Chinese medicine and acupuncture can cure a lot of conditions and she was showing me that before and after of her cases, particularly like back injuries, leanness, and I was like, okay,
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[SPEAKER_00]: system that works with the body's energetic system to heal it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when I went to the Qi website, the thing that really caught me in addition to five elements theory, which is your basic, is the food therapy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once I got the book,
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[SPEAKER_00]: traditional Chinese, but in our medicine food therapy, I was hooked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I have been craving this my whole life and now I mean I'm still on an expert in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's takes a while, but you literally learn not just the thermodynamics of food like lamb is the hottest meat for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: cucumber is cooling, but you also learn like how different foods can decrease a deema, address constipation, address diarrhea, and now you're armed with natural whole food ingredients that you can recommend to the pet owner to assist in supporting that disease condition going back to homeostasis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's wonderful, that through Acupuncture, that kind of convinced you of the energy channels being a real thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, and then the only reason why I didn't study it is because the Arcania laser came into my field, and I then learned about mitochondrial activation and how the laser can regenerate these organs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I then became fascinated with the laser and decided that I'm going to put my efforts into regenerative medicine and bring in or refer to people doing acupuncture just because it takes
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe my next 10 years I'll take it on, but tremendous respect for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For anybody that who comes to get stem cell treatment for me, we're using the laser while they're getting stem cell infusions to make the stem cells more viable, more active, more mobile, and then we can also attract the cells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we're infusing into the area that we really want them to be in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's a multipurpose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what have you seen with the laser on the animals or conia laser?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Miracles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a case that just came to me last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a wroughtweiler who had a chipped shoulder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a piece of the top of the humorous was floating in the musculature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is like your worst situation because you can't go cutting through the muscles looking for this little bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do with a small fracture at the top of a bone, surgically?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had this owner rent my violet green and my red laser for a week and gave her protocol in
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[SPEAKER_00]: The dog is completely sound now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a week now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean presenting this case on Monday, I have a two hour lecture if anyone's interested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be my bonus case because it's just so exciting to watch this dog who's like limping and sad and painful be completely like happy and sound in a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had, oh, what do you think the laser did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the red is recruiting stem cells and decreasing inflammation and pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The violet is activating complex one in two on the electron transport chain so you have the beginning of the mitochondrial activation cascade happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if there's any microbials there, it's addressing them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: than the green is activating osteoblasts and having bone remodeling reformation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we have all free wavelengths, we're dealing with addressing the chipped bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're helping the body rebuild itself through its own healing pathways by activating the stem cells and the mitochondria.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and decreasing pain and inflammation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't think you could have a better tool in your kit for a case like this than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think the fragment was, you know, came out of the muscle then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's being absorbed by the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be cool to see an x-ray in two months because I'm thinking that it's being drawn to where the chip is and it's creating a callous but time will tell but it's fascinating that so so it may be the the chip, the fragments of the edges got smooth from the laser so it's not
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we'll see you at the repeat x-ray shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I have to let you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where can people find you to get help from you for their pets?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my website, the regenerativesankshurie.com is a great place and my email is Dr. ScarletVet at jemel.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love doing virtual consoles, helping with nutrition and customizing your plan, all of my products or non-prescription, their specific supplements.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really easy to work with anyone anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: addition to your health care team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for the work you're doing to help the animals that you're drive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know it all came from you just really caring about their well-being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just want them to live a good life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for your heart, which drives all this knowledge that you're seeking and helping others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so I'm sure all these animals are grateful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a human being out there trying to look out for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always my pleasure and things are having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for all you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Dr. Scarlet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope everyone has enjoyed this episode on our pets.
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