ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Hey there, Shiny Minds! 🌟
In this episode of The Shiny Minds Show, I sit down with Tilly Erguder—international school principal, educational leader, and certified Neuro-Shine Technology™ coach!
Discover how Tilly shattered every excuse (even attending class at midnight in China!) to transform her mindset, embrace coaching, and lead with heart.
You’ll hear about:
💡 Tilly’s journey from educational leadership to conscious coaching
💡 The power of mindset shifts and unlearning old patterns
💡 How Neuro-Shine Technology™ creates “aha” moments and lasting transformation
💡 Tips for overcoming obstacles like time, money, and self-doubt
Ready to illuminate your own path?
Tune in and let Tilly’s story inspire you to bet on yourself and shine brighter—no matter where you are in the world.
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How I Got Here…
2011: Became a Licensed Trainer of Neuro Linguistic Programming® (trained by Dr. Richard Bandler).
Earned a second Bachelor’s degree in Metaphysics from the University of Metaphysics.
2012: Became Lead Instructor of Leadership Communication Strategies at UCLA Extension.
2013: Earned a Master’s in Metaphysical Psychology from the University of Metaphysics.
2014: Became Lead Instructor and Course Author of "Managing Yourself and Others with Emotional Intelligence" at UCLAx and Received my first ICF CCE Accreditation (30 hours) for in-person training program.
2015: Achieved first “6 figures” in the US.
2016: Created Neuro-Shine Technology™ and became an official member of the Forbes Coaches Council.
2017: Named one of the 40 Under 40 Most Influential Turkish Americans.
2018: Won Global Woman Entrepreneur of the Year Award.
2019: Became an ICF Certified Coach (ACC), achieved full 60-hour ICF Accreditation as a CCE provider and launched "Be-Live in U" as the Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology™.
2021: Earned ICF MCC Credential (only 721 in the world at the time).
2022: Secured ICF Level 1 & 2 Coaching Education Accreditations.
2023: Neuro-Shine Technology™ reached 50+ countries and 500+ coaches, launched the Business Development Mastermind at the Forbes Coaches Council, featured on Kajabi’s main page and introduced 5 faculty members at the Academy of Neuro-Shine Technology™.
2024: Achieved PhD in Metaphysical Science.
2025: Received my 2nd Doctorate in Metaphysical Psychology, M. PsyD! 🥳
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oh my goodness shininess
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welcome back to the Shiny Minds show
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with Doctor Shininess
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today I have another awesome guest
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another shiny mind Tilly Argyle
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welcome to the show Tilly
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are you ready to shine come on
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it's the shiny one you got this
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hi shiny
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it's great to be here
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thank you for hosting me on your show
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that's really very exciting
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glad to be here so looking forward to this conversation
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and then before we dive into all the amazingness
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and the fabulousness
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would you like to please introduce yourself
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to everyone who is watching
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or listening to us
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and then perhaps tell them how we met
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yes of course
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I'd love that so um
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I'm an educator I'm an educational leader
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uh this is my 32nd year actually
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and 28th year in leadership
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so currently I'm in China
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mm hmm so
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I work at an international school
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as the middle and high school principal
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and this is the educator and the leader part of me
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but currently the exciting part who I am
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is I am a Nurishine technology coach
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right certified and pursuing my ICF certification
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so so excited
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yes a principal in the house
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ladies and gentlemen
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yes
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she's not like the principles that we used to know
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I mean at least on my behalf
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you know the principles that
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they kind of like scare you and all that
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obviously as you see her
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you want her in your school
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you want you want her like right next to you
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she's she is a certified Nurishine Technology coach
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and a principal
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so I want to actually start with something Tilly
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remember when you were the coach of the week
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obviously right away
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and when I shared it on social media
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and then I tagged you
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like it was incredible
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like it was a lot of people liking it and commenting it
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like you must have a lot of students
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is is that what
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is that what happened are they your students
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who are liking and commenting on Instagram
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I am not sure they are my students
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but they are friends
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they are professionals that I work together
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hmm previously or currently
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so I'm lucky to be surrounded by amazing people
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I believe they are them I'm not sure
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I wasn't following the likes
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I'm really happy to hear that
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oh yeah
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oh yeah
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you actually broke the records
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like it's it's a lot yeah
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it's it's a lot of likes and comments
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I'm like people love her obviously
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thank you and I love people yes
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obviously there is that love flow going on between you
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and your connections it was beautiful to witness
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and obviously that just says so much about you
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and then that's how you showed up
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and I mean I have a lot to say about you
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the the first thing that I would love to mention
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to everybody because this is also I hear a lot of times
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and as a as a rejection as an excuse for everybody
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if you have a goal that you know you want to go after
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but and then if you're making time
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money location
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all that as an excuse I'm getting goosebumps
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I have Tilly to bust all your assumptions
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because she joined my nourish and technology coaching
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education program from 12 to 3:00am
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on her midnight for 15 weeks
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right Tilly
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right
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right can you please share your experience about that
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and inspire people yeah
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I would love that actually
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yeah I think it's inspiring for anyone
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and maybe I should start with how we met
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because it's kind of aligned
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yes please
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absolutely yes
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yeah so I was looking for a coaching training actually
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because it's my job you know
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it's part of my job it should be
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you know I believe I've been coaching like every day
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but not in a plain way so you know me
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I'm kind of a perfectionist
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I don't want to say that
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I'm not sure if it's the good thing
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but it's okay so it is a good thing for you
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because you are really doing everything perfect
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yeah that's what I'm
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you're the definition
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you're like the textbook definition of it
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oh gosh thank you shiny
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own it own it definitely
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thank you we should do this more often
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I'll be here next week too
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haha
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absolutely haha
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there's a lot out there but I had to pick the right one
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so thanks to beautiful Kate
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our mutual friend I asked her and then said Tilly
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this is the only option knowing you
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knowing shiny you're a match
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so this is the perfect
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wipe that you and a trainer might have
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I said OK
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so I reached out to you and then to be honest with you
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I'm in China right
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I just checked
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because I wasn't sure where NST was located
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I said oh gosh
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it's in US and I checked the times and there's no way
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no way this is happening so I felt sorry
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I just left it there so
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and then it was February
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and you reached out to me again
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there was an emailing back and forth in the meantime
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but I said okay
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thank you but I can't because of 12:00am and 3:00am
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4:00am
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think there's no way because I have a full time job
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I get up at 6 right
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wow but then in February
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you send me an email everything happens for a reason
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I said okay
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I'll give it a try let me have a zoom call
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and in that zoom call you'd literally busted everything
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I asked
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did I oh my God
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I love you what did I say
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so you said you know
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I was hesitant because of the time zone and everything
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will I be able to do that
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like it's not easy
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and then you said it's all here
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it's your brain and your mindset Tilly
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if you wanna do it it's all here
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and I said OK
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there's nothing I can say to this you
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you really got me there
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and next thing I know next week
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I was in your session and for almost three months
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right including the business school
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I did not miss one session
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you did not from 12 to 4:00am
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actually in the beginning
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wasn't it four hours I can't even remember now
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but it was really long or three
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maybe the mentor coaching sessions were four hours
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yes mentor coaching was four hours right
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yeah and
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first of all
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I should say you and I and NST and I meant to meet
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it was time that is so true
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that is how I'm feeling truly yes
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me too and NST literally
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I was a coach by nature I knew it
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I always felt it
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but you know
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going through life and when life throws things at us
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you we tend to forget our strength
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we tend to forget our resourcefulness
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and that was the time when I said like
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I lost balance that was the moment
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that was a mental state I was in at that time
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yeah you and NST
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literally held my hand and pulled me out of there
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oh my God and took me through everything
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so I can't say this is just a training
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I don't wanna say therapy
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because this is not what we do
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yeah
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it touched me from 12 to 3
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I went to bed woke up
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at 1 I thought I was gonna be jet like every week
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not at all I was more energetic the next day
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wow really
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it was amazing
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this is not just a training or a course to me
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it's now a lifestyle I'm addicted
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thank you I am getting goose bump after goose bump
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after goose bump hearing your words
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wow because I know that you are showing up right
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and then I know that you are there
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but we didn't get a chance to talk about
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what happened the day after
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now I'm hearing it exactly
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this is the first time we're talking about that
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and literally it was I I couldn't believe myself
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like I'm not in my 20s right
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I need sleep but although you look like that haha
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thank you that's what I wanted to hear too
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thank you wow
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you see this is it
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this is why I wanted Tilly to share her story
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for our audience like if you are watching
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if you are hearing what she's saying
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she is not in her 20s although she looks like that
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she is somebody who is dedicated
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and then when she shows up open heartedly
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full heartedly
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she was not only going galactic in my language
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with her coaching skills and then she was also
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obviously rocking everything else in her
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other areas of your life
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so this is so fascinating to hear
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so for anybody Tilly
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who are feeling like okay
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time is a concern time is something I mean
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that's Tilly that she must be special
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that must be something about Tilly
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you know we go to that default thinking right
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so that must be something that she has special going on
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can you just share what is it about you
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or what is it about the mindset shift
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that you experienced
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that made you commit to such an intense program for
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for little in 3 four
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it's actually four months Tilly
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four months yeah
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four months because it's 15 weeks
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yes yeah
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can you please give your thinking
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your feeling and inspire some people please
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mm hmm yeah
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uh
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so I need to be honest here
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yes so when yeah
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when I first wanted to learn about coaching yeah
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I don't want to say I was probably like ignorant
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I mean I want to say naive okay
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so I didn't know what I got myself into
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so sure I wanted to learn coaching
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but I didn't know what I got myself into it was like
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scary at what times look is
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are these the things that I'm gonna do like
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do I have to hit these hours and everything at first
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and then then
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I found out like everything is worth it
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because I was there
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I showed up there to touch people's lives
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but actually this course uh
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the friends that I took the course with
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they touched my life
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I feel like I'm surrounded by a support system wow
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I felt safe in that environment
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and actually it was not like getting up at 11 a
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30 am in the evening at night in the morning
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and then it was more than that
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so it is nothing special about me actually
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just giving it a try giving it a chance
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and then going with the flow
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and see the good cause in that like
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why is this happening why is this coaching
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so I wasn't expecting that intense course
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but I'm saying it in a positive way yeah
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because in your episodes
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you're providing every single opportunity and help
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the videos mm hmm
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I didn't even have to read a thing
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I I'm go I was going out on my walk
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listening to the videos and learning and unlearning
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like it was an amazing amazing learning curve
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so I'm not a superhero or anything
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anyone who wanna transform in life personally
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doesn't matter what job you're doing
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it does not matter at all
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just show up for yourself be there
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I thought I was gonna do this for other people but no
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I think it's mostly something happened to me yeah right
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yeah yeah
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that's that that's the key
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that's the key oh my gosh
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you said it so well thank you so much Tilly
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and it is it is not even also about always the
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our coaching education program
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of course I want everybody
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to come and experience their transformation with me
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and still yeah
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it's not even about that it's about any dream
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any goal that you have in your heart
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anything that makes your heart sing
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and still yet you put money time
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other excuses I'm getting goosebumps
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oh my God
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whatever that you put as an obstacle as a block
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as a barrier in front of you
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they are going to block you
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and then you will never meet the version of you
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that you could become
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and that's that's the thing that we wanna avoid
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and that's what Tilly is sharing with you
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and that's what we actually want to share with you
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inspire you whatever that you desire
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your heart desires go after it
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give it a chance give yourself a chance
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bet on yourself right Tilly
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absolutely and the most important of it is that
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there is no obstacle there is no such thing
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all you need to do is to give yourself a chance
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to switch your mindset yes
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boom that's it
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even towards water it can't happen
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no that's not possible
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there's no such thing hmm ooh yes
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that's it there's no such thing
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what happens to us it's what we do with what happens
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absolutely and if you're even struggling with that
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this training is because it helped me to
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you know I was one of many others who are listening
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or watching us you know
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what if what if
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what if but but
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but right
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but now going through the sessions
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I was like I had a lot of aha
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moments myself oh
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I should change that oh
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this is how I can change this hmm
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this is how it's happening
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like
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I love it I love it
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I feel like a little girl in a candy store
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and I am getting all these candies from you
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thank you thank you
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I'm just so appreciative I
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I I can talk for days about this seriously Tilly
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because this is exactly why I created my NST
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my neuroshine technology right
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because whatever I was going through in my life
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nothing was helping I
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I was feeling like OK
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there must be something wrong with me
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because I was bumping into problems
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and issues and obstacles
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and then feeling like I was a failure
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feeling like I couldn't stick
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my friends had jobs and careers
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that they would stick for years
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and then here I was every year
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perhaps like not even a year
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like a not even like a full calendar year
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I am in another company I am in another agency
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I'm like what is wrong with me
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like what's up
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so like
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I was like I need something
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and then I just couldn't find anything
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and yeah years later
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as you can imagine now
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hearing what worked for me is also working for others
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I'm like like
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Mic Drop I'm done
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and there should be more of us out there
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because the world needs that mindset yes
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yes we all do
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I'm trying to share it with my son
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too like bits and pieces
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like
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my surrounding
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like people around me also switched actually wow
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and I feel like you know what I unlearned
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this is one of the things that I unlearned during
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because unlearning is very critical
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very important it is very important
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what I Learned is that not to give advice
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oh yeah oh yeah
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oh yeah because you know
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I'm wise right
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so you know
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I have friends you know
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I've been through a lot
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so thanks to them and I really appreciate them
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they tend to you know
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tell me what do you think
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what should I do you know
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and I was I know all the answers right
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and I do I do not all
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but many of them so I said okay
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you can do this you can do that
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but then it was helping I'm sure it was
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but now I changed my approach
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this is one big thing that I unlearned
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not that what I was doing was wrong
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but what I am now doing is better for my friends
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what are you doing now right
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what I I'm not giving advice
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I'm just holding the space
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listening to what they have to say
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and asking powerful questions
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it's not a coaching session or anything
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but now it's part of me like by by like
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it's just natural you see yeah
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way of communication now I have
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and I even see the change in them
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they come out with their own answers
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they don't even need my advice
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I'm not even direct at them
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because they know it already boom
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you empower them and then you don't like you
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you actually give yourself so much space by doing that
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so much more peace is that yes
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that's very relaxing
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because I don't have any responsibility
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I was like owning the problem owning the issue
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it was hard on me
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because I was so ready to help my friend
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they are my loved ones right
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I I wanna help I wanna help and it's so much pressure
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now I have no pressure at all
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wow wow
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because I'm just letting them find the right answer
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not my responsibility wow
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what a shit what an unlearning oh my goodness
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shine this I
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I just actually want to applaud
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and I want to just share
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this huge mindset shift with anyone
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who is in our audience today
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this is what a true coaching mindset is
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and that's also why I have Tilly
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although she just graduated
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she is a new baby coach she is like
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you cannot say that
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you cannot if you have a coaching session with Tilly
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I assure you you're gonna
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you're gonna feel all of her being
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as if she has been doing this for like another
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like 30 years like as her career
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that's how good she is because she really mastered
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I'm learning that kind of like oh
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I don't have to solve problem for people
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I just need to empower them to solve their own problem
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so that mindset she is so good
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and I was like oh my God Tilly
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I gotta have you in my shiny mind show
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I am only actually interviewing my coach educators
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you know in my faculty
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and although we are having that conversation and um
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soon in the future whenever the divine timing is
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we're gonna have you in our faculty
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people would love to learn from you obviously
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you have such a beautiful vibe about you that you bring
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it's firm and yet open it's disciplined
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yet very soft and gentle it's absolutely perfectionist
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and yet truly allowing the flexibility
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and that's what I call mastery
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you you are an inspiration to so many
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and obviously to your friends and your network
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and the people that you lead as well
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so my question I have a question for you
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thank you first
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let me thank you
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these coming from you means a lot to me
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thank you so much shiny
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my pleasure it just comes from my heart OK
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you're you're just my role model
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oh my God what what an honor
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what an honor to be I
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I love my life that's why I love my life um
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such a such an honor
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to be able to work with amazing people like you
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and thank you for this ugh
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thank you and um
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my question is yeah
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when you look at the world now
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when you look at the people now
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if you were to put
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one word for that mindset shift that you experienced
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and you still see in others
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what would be that word
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what is the world in need of right now
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what we need is like pause
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I think like we all need to stop
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think and reflect wow
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and take deep breaths hmm
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okay just for a second
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just give it a break yeah
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just breathe let it go
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let it be
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and just focus on yourself and what you really want
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what you really wanna do in life
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what you really wanna become
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and how you're gonna become that ooh
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and
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I think everything will transform after that
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because can you imagine the diversity
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and the amount of different outcomes
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like I've become this you've become that
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the other person become that
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and then they start to serve
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we don't even have to
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we don't even have to become the same thing
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that's not the point
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that's the beauty of differences even in the mindset
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but always for a good cause first of all
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for ourselves yes yeah
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we have to be feeling well first so we can help others
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yeah such a good point such a great point yeah
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I love that how about you pause huh
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that's a great question pause
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I I never thought of that hahaha
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well I'm always curious right
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because you have your own perspective
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and after going through what you have gone through
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inside out transformation
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the word that you shared with me pause
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it actually speaks volumes because in that pause
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as someone like me
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00:24:15,966 --> 00:24:20,300
who did to doctor degrees recently in metaphysics
529
00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:25,333
pausing to me equals space
530
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:30,133
hmm so in that space what is in the space
531
00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:33,800
we have the air the oxygen
532
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:38,200
the entire subatomic particles and intentions
533
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,700
frequencies and energies
534
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,266
they're all floating in the air in the quantum field
535
00:24:42,466 --> 00:24:44,033
and in that space
536
00:24:44,033 --> 00:24:47,800
we actually when we go really to the source of it
537
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,166
we have consciousness mm hmm
538
00:24:53,433 --> 00:24:56,000
I'm gonna drop something in that I mean
539
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000
consciousness is all there is
540
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,766
that is in my dissertation papers right
541
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,166
so what I believe and my
542
00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:08,500
my theory is there is always consciousness
543
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,266
consciousness is all there is
544
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,066
and in that pause in that space
545
00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:14,966
we have nothing but consciousness
546
00:25:15,466 --> 00:25:20,200
and that's why I loved hearing pausing from you
547
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,266
I would say consciousness
548
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:26,166
that would be my answer right
549
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:28,133
like higher levels of consciousness
550
00:25:28,433 --> 00:25:31,633
and in the way that you phrased it
551
00:25:31,633 --> 00:25:36,166
I can see how they're actually the same the similar
552
00:25:36,433 --> 00:25:38,866
what we really need is to
553
00:25:38,866 --> 00:25:41,800
break the pattern of the conditioning
554
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,733
getting out of the matrix
555
00:25:45,866 --> 00:25:48,366
just getting out of the programming
556
00:25:48,366 --> 00:25:51,500
and you mentioned several times unlearning
557
00:25:52,266 --> 00:25:55,500
because we Learned we are conditioned
558
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,800
we are programmed by the society
559
00:25:58,966 --> 00:26:03,600
by whatever other people think and opiates
560
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,933
other people's opinions
561
00:26:05,166 --> 00:26:08,800
and then they are actually shaping us
562
00:26:09,266 --> 00:26:10,966
internally and externally
563
00:26:10,966 --> 00:26:13,566
when we take a pause when we
564
00:26:13,566 --> 00:26:18,100
go deep and then ask our neurons and the neurites okay
565
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:23,366
what do I want what do I believe who am I
566
00:26:24,633 --> 00:26:25,066
now
567
00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:28,766
you are becoming a conscious co creator of yourself
568
00:26:28,766 --> 00:26:30,133
and who you wanna be
569
00:26:32,466 --> 00:26:33,800
that's there you go
570
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,400
there it is there it is
571
00:26:37,833 --> 00:26:41,700
I dropped it that's consciousness really uh
572
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:46,700
it is and that's why I'm super passionate about my work
573
00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:50,700
and I'm working with amazing people like you
574
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:53,800
who are hashtag on a mission with me
575
00:26:54,433 --> 00:26:56,500
because once we understand
576
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:59,900
oh my gosh that was me and my mindset
577
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,866
and now I take radical responsibility
578
00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:07,466
how can I share this with others around me
579
00:27:07,466 --> 00:27:10,566
how can I serve the collective without
580
00:27:10,566 --> 00:27:12,666
without trying to fix them
581
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,766
yes yes
582
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,300
there's no such thing fixing
583
00:27:19,433 --> 00:27:21,066
who do we
584
00:27:21,766 --> 00:27:26,100
who are we to say that this needs to be fixed right
585
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,900
like this is wrong like what is wrong
586
00:27:29,766 --> 00:27:30,900
yeah exactly
587
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,366
maybe it's my right it's OK right
588
00:27:34,366 --> 00:27:36,033
it may be wrong for others
589
00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:39,033
but it may fit me and
590
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:42,966
or if it is really wrong like mutually wrong still
591
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:46,400
not my job yeah
592
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,733
not my business
593
00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:50,633
we should I believe
594
00:27:50,633 --> 00:27:54,133
let everyone go through life
595
00:27:54,666 --> 00:27:59,100
like even my way of communicating with my son
596
00:27:59,566 --> 00:28:00,366
hmm
597
00:28:00,633 --> 00:28:01,833
yeah yeah
598
00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:03,300
I'm lucky I'm lucky
599
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,900
I'm just sending my love to my son
600
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:06,700
eh umut
601
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:08,100
uh
602
00:28:08,766 --> 00:28:12,266
we talk a lot I'm lucky he's 24
603
00:28:12,266 --> 00:28:14,366
he still calls me so I'm lucky
604
00:28:14,466 --> 00:28:16,966
so we talk you're super lucky too Justin
605
00:28:16,966 --> 00:28:18,200
send it over there
606
00:28:19,366 --> 00:28:21,400
thank you so
607
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,100
you know she
608
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,766
he knows my life so he trusts my opinion
609
00:28:24,766 --> 00:28:27,966
so I appreciate that he always ask for my opinion mom
610
00:28:27,966 --> 00:28:29,233
what should I do you know
611
00:28:29,233 --> 00:28:30,266
and I was of course
612
00:28:30,266 --> 00:28:31,000
I know right
613
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,433
okay do this
614
00:28:32,433 --> 00:28:34,700
if I were why don't you do that
615
00:28:35,666 --> 00:28:39,066
but now because I was I'm a mother right
616
00:28:39,066 --> 00:28:42,100
I need I just wanna protect right
617
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,766
I've been through that why would he go through that
618
00:28:45,866 --> 00:28:48,400
like knowing that it's the wrong way
619
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,666
like I should stop I should
620
00:28:50,733 --> 00:28:53,766
but actually what I'm doing to him is
621
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,566
taking away the opportunity for him to fail
622
00:28:57,766 --> 00:29:00,966
learn and have a growth mindset
623
00:29:02,433 --> 00:29:06,966
right and now I stopped
624
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,966
oh really it was not easy
625
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,433
actually you helped me with that in one of the sessions
626
00:29:16,433 --> 00:29:17,900
the first thing that hit me
627
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:18,633
you know I said like
628
00:29:18,633 --> 00:29:20,666
I didn't know what I got myself into
629
00:29:20,666 --> 00:29:22,033
you know in the training OK
630
00:29:22,033 --> 00:29:23,833
coaching is not giving advice
631
00:29:23,833 --> 00:29:24,766
we can't I said
632
00:29:24,766 --> 00:29:26,933
oh my God I'm in trouble because
633
00:29:28,866 --> 00:29:31,166
this is me giving advice so I said
634
00:29:31,166 --> 00:29:34,066
how would I stop myself how can I do that
635
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:35,666
then I thought you know hmm
636
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,200
let me try it on my son
637
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,766
because if I stop giving advice to my son
638
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:46,066
I'm good with anyone exactly
639
00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:47,766
that's the hardest
640
00:29:48,366 --> 00:29:51,000
wow so I practiced on my son
641
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,566
not easy it was not easy
642
00:29:52,566 --> 00:29:54,100
it was really challenging
643
00:29:54,666 --> 00:29:59,300
but it helped me a lot and it helped my son too
644
00:29:59,466 --> 00:30:01,100
probably he's gonna listen to this
645
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,600
and he'll find out all the tricks
646
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,333
but anyway I'll live with it
647
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:06,100
ha ha
648
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,766
oh my goodness this is amazing
649
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,933
are you really able to hold yourself
650
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,433
become aware of your own protective advice
651
00:30:17,433 --> 00:30:20,266
and instead shift the conversation to
652
00:30:20,266 --> 00:30:22,533
what would you want to do with your son
653
00:30:23,166 --> 00:30:26,300
it was not easy but now it's easier
654
00:30:26,366 --> 00:30:29,466
because it's like part of the coaching
655
00:30:29,466 --> 00:30:32,833
and what we're trying to help our clients with too
656
00:30:32,833 --> 00:30:35,166
right muscle muscle
657
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200
it's just the muscle that we have to work on
658
00:30:38,366 --> 00:30:40,833
so my muscle is not there yet
659
00:30:40,833 --> 00:30:43,900
but has improved immensely
660
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,933
improved a lot immensely it did
661
00:30:47,033 --> 00:30:51,366
so I'm still in the process of practicing that
662
00:30:51,366 --> 00:30:53,766
but that's huge I'm good
663
00:30:53,766 --> 00:30:57,300
it changed like I'm so so OK
664
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,200
and it's such a relief no pressure
665
00:31:00,566 --> 00:31:01,666
yeah right
666
00:31:01,666 --> 00:31:05,600
why have I done that before in my whole life
667
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,066
like you know
668
00:31:06,066 --> 00:31:09,366
I'm in my 20s like for 20 years why did I do that
669
00:31:11,233 --> 00:31:14,800
two full decades two full decades
670
00:31:15,366 --> 00:31:16,700
oh I should have
671
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:17,200
I should have
672
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,400
I wish I took that course when I was 15 actually
673
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,466
I would have lived a different life
674
00:31:22,466 --> 00:31:24,000
totally different life
675
00:31:24,966 --> 00:31:25,766
hahaha
676
00:31:26,033 --> 00:31:28,033
can totally relate to you yeah
677
00:31:28,033 --> 00:31:30,566
anyone out there in their 20s
678
00:31:30,566 --> 00:31:33,000
including my son please
679
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,100
please please jump in
680
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,400
when you're young
681
00:31:36,966 --> 00:31:39,033
that's so true when you are wrong
682
00:31:39,033 --> 00:31:42,366
when you are young you have actually
683
00:31:42,366 --> 00:31:46,266
your neurons not that thick in terms
684
00:31:46,266 --> 00:31:52,400
of their muscle building when when you fire everything
685
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,633
when you fire the neurons
686
00:31:53,633 --> 00:31:55,066
you wire the neurons
687
00:31:55,233 --> 00:31:58,166
if you keep firing the same thought pattern
688
00:31:58,166 --> 00:32:02,266
then you're you know that that is that is how it works
689
00:32:02,366 --> 00:32:04,900
so if you just stop it whatever you don't use
690
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:06,633
you lose and that's how you unlearn
691
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:09,300
and that is what Tilly is talking about
692
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,233
and that is why my mom's journey
693
00:32:12,233 --> 00:32:14,666
now I'm gonna connect with you and your son
694
00:32:14,666 --> 00:32:17,133
and then with me and my mom yes
695
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,200
looking forward to it as you know
696
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,100
and you're gonna meet her very soon
697
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:25,900
my mom has been my biggest success story
698
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,266
and then I keep talking about that right
699
00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:33,566
and she is absolutely super inspiring for anybody
700
00:32:33,833 --> 00:32:35,833
I mean she's not even in her 20s like you
701
00:32:35,833 --> 00:32:38,166
she's in her 30s as you know so
702
00:32:41,566 --> 00:32:44,300
actually 40s yeah actually yeah
703
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,566
in her 40s like joke aside
704
00:32:49,633 --> 00:32:51,566
after the age of 60
705
00:32:51,866 --> 00:32:57,933
if my mom can unlearn her conditioning
706
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,266
her own patterns
707
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,100
nobody has an excuse I'm sorry
708
00:33:05,566 --> 00:33:11,366
nobody has an excuse because I have the biggest example
709
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,433
the biggest success story who kept resisting
710
00:33:15,433 --> 00:33:20,233
who kept telling me I know you are resonating with it
711
00:33:20,233 --> 00:33:23,500
because you exactly walk through the path
712
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,766
from the other side like being the mom
713
00:33:26,966 --> 00:33:29,300
because my mom kept saying I'm a mom
714
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:32,666
come on I can say that I'm like um
715
00:33:32,666 --> 00:33:37,600
not really no I I am still a sovereign individual
716
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,200
I have my own free will my choices
717
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,633
and I understand you want to protect me
718
00:33:44,633 --> 00:33:47,600
I understand you want to come from your own perspective
719
00:33:47,866 --> 00:33:49,666
yet I'll tell you what
720
00:33:49,833 --> 00:33:51,233
I don't need your Protection
721
00:33:51,233 --> 00:33:53,000
I'm good it's my life
722
00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:55,133
no
723
00:33:55,133 --> 00:33:58,600
the biggest learning curve happens when we fail
724
00:33:59,100 --> 00:33:59,833
mm hmm yeah
725
00:33:59,833 --> 00:34:02,300
pain yes pain pain
726
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,400
yeah so we cannot take it away from our loved ones
727
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,700
no yeah
728
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:09,000
exactly that
729
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,966
that figuring it out for
730
00:34:12,966 --> 00:34:17,466
for my mom was the biggest transformation
731
00:34:17,466 --> 00:34:21,866
the biggest breakthrough when she realized huh
732
00:34:22,233 --> 00:34:25,266
I'm giving you my advice that's not yours
733
00:34:26,233 --> 00:34:28,766
that took years I must admit
734
00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:33,833
like quite some years okay
735
00:34:33,833 --> 00:34:36,066
but probably like 6 7 years okay
736
00:34:37,166 --> 00:34:39,666
but I did not give up I did not
737
00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:44,600
and she did not give up she came and sat in my programs
738
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,266
when I was doing in person trainings
739
00:34:46,566 --> 00:34:48,366
mm hmm also in Turkish
740
00:34:48,366 --> 00:34:49,966
I was doing also in Turkish
741
00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:53,800
she was my best student she would just sit in my class
742
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,700
and then she would work on herself
743
00:34:55,866 --> 00:34:59,333
and that's why I respect my mom so much
744
00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:03,433
and then that's why I also respect you as a mom so much
745
00:35:03,433 --> 00:35:06,400
you are taking responsibility
746
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,000
radical responsibility and then you are looking inwards
747
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,633
I I want all the moms out there to hear us
748
00:35:15,633 --> 00:35:20,933
please hear us you as your moms are superwoman
749
00:35:21,566 --> 00:35:25,200
whatever you do at home is gonna affect
750
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,900
impact the next generation
751
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,966
yes
752
00:35:28,966 --> 00:35:31,333
that's wow yeah
753
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,500
because what I'm doing is I'm being a role model now
754
00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:42,466
and this is what I'm passing on to my son yeah
755
00:35:42,466 --> 00:35:46,666
so ghost pops he applies the same thing
756
00:35:46,766 --> 00:35:49,500
so I'm changing generations
757
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,866
actually with just one little step
758
00:35:51,866 --> 00:35:54,166
that's it which is big actually
759
00:35:54,166 --> 00:35:56,333
not so little yeah
760
00:35:56,633 --> 00:36:00,200
but easy to do exactly and comforting as well
761
00:36:01,966 --> 00:36:02,466
right
762
00:36:02,466 --> 00:36:06,200
the benefits of letting people make their own decisions
763
00:36:06,433 --> 00:36:08,666
exactly exactly
764
00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:10,366
that's it just like that
765
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,100
just like that wow
766
00:36:13,366 --> 00:36:15,833
okay I can go on and on and on and on about
767
00:36:15,833 --> 00:36:17,966
like talking about moms and next generations
768
00:36:17,966 --> 00:36:20,433
I believe we we shared our message
769
00:36:20,433 --> 00:36:22,966
I have another question for you that I am actually
770
00:36:22,966 --> 00:36:24,700
I cannot even wait to ask
771
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,200
because this is something about my creativity
772
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,900
and I'm always curious so here's my question
773
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:37,733
when you heard about neuroshine technology
774
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,566
what did you think about the whole curriculum
775
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:45,066
versus what do you know about it now
776
00:36:45,266 --> 00:36:46,700
first of all
777
00:36:47,666 --> 00:36:50,966
I never paid attention to the word neuro
778
00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:53,000
OK OK
779
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:53,933
interesting
780
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,400
right
781
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,400
as I said
782
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,666
I like I didn't even know what I was getting into
783
00:36:59,666 --> 00:37:00,466
you know
784
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,666
oh it sounds good
785
00:37:03,666 --> 00:37:06,333
you know I'm not that scientific okay
786
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,733
so you know me
787
00:37:08,966 --> 00:37:14,500
so like shiny was the shiny stood out actually oh
788
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,666
that's something positive ah
789
00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:20,166
but then going through training
790
00:37:20,266 --> 00:37:26,766
actually the content provided the neuro
791
00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:30,700
and the scientific meaning of the whole coaching
792
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,966
and shining mindset and transforming mindset
793
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:38,966
switching mindset like scientifically what it means
794
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,700
then I said oh okay
795
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:41,433
then I paid
796
00:37:41,433 --> 00:37:45,600
attention to the neuro or I realized neuro there
797
00:37:45,633 --> 00:37:48,400
and this like saying this out loud
798
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,466
like I'm proud of myself because I'm I'm
799
00:37:52,066 --> 00:37:54,366
I'm not scientific you know
800
00:37:54,366 --> 00:37:57,000
I hardly follow the content
801
00:37:57,366 --> 00:38:01,833
but the content like if I understand yeah
802
00:38:01,833 --> 00:38:07,566
anyone can oh yeah so so simplified so simplified
803
00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:11,800
but just there to convince and to understand
804
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,933
during coaching during any communication
805
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,366
any any interaction what is going on in there
806
00:38:19,366 --> 00:38:21,100
now I know by the look
807
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,600
you know looking here looking there
808
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,733
you know all these things yup
809
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,866
it's all science like
810
00:38:28,866 --> 00:38:32,666
I never thought I would love science coming from
811
00:38:32,666 --> 00:38:34,033
I'm an English teacher right
812
00:38:34,033 --> 00:38:35,766
I'm terrible at math or science
813
00:38:35,766 --> 00:38:37,733
this is why I'm an English teacher
814
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,133
but but now I'm a fan thanks to you
815
00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:45,900
I love it okay
816
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:47,966
wow that's interesting
817
00:38:48,066 --> 00:38:49,600
so that is basically
818
00:38:49,966 --> 00:38:53,533
it just shows how you just surrendered yourself
819
00:38:53,566 --> 00:38:54,266
and then you said OK
820
00:38:54,266 --> 00:38:54,833
I I
821
00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:58,733
I wanna learn coaching and I am here to learn coaching
822
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,900
and I'm gonna figure it out
823
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:05,100
that is super amazing your ability to just let go
824
00:39:05,266 --> 00:39:08,533
and then meet the content
825
00:39:08,666 --> 00:39:12,266
as you are moving through the whole journey
826
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,700
exactly exactly
827
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,466
that's being a risk taker actually
828
00:39:16,466 --> 00:39:17,900
that is yes
829
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,600
that is being a risk taker like don't think about it
830
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
just just jump in right yeah
831
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,466
like what what could go wrong
832
00:39:26,066 --> 00:39:27,400
you know what could happen
833
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,333
like get out of your comfort zone
834
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:31,766
do something different
835
00:39:31,766 --> 00:39:34,633
challenge yourself because you know
836
00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:36,966
it's so boring to sit in the same place
837
00:39:36,966 --> 00:39:38,633
in your comfort zone it's comfortable
838
00:39:38,633 --> 00:39:40,966
but gets boring after a while right
839
00:39:40,966 --> 00:39:42,366
just go out there
840
00:39:42,366 --> 00:39:44,900
take a course that you have no idea about
841
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:46,433
like coaching like me
842
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:52,800
and then what came out of it is beyond my imagination
843
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,666
I love I love people hearing this because this is
844
00:39:57,666 --> 00:40:00,766
I also wanna answer the question that you asked
845
00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:03,700
what could go wrong what could go wrong
846
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,966
the the
847
00:40:05,166 --> 00:40:07,433
the worst sen case scenario
848
00:40:07,433 --> 00:40:08,766
which never happened
849
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,433
is you don't resonate with the content
850
00:40:11,433 --> 00:40:12,666
and guess what
851
00:40:12,666 --> 00:40:16,266
in my world at my Academy of Nurishine Technology
852
00:40:16,266 --> 00:40:19,700
I have a 30 day guarantee
853
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:23,900
like yes full 30 days
854
00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:28,000
30 and it is an 11 week course
855
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,633
if you don't count the business school right
856
00:40:30,633 --> 00:40:33,500
so out of like 11 weeks
857
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:38,300
you are actually almost experiencing half of it
858
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:43,100
risk free I only ask everybody to just show up
859
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:46,333
really do your best like show up to the classes
860
00:40:46,666 --> 00:40:49,566
go through the content watch everything
861
00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:53,066
and if you tell me I still don't resonate
862
00:40:53,066 --> 00:40:57,166
shiny by all means I don't want to take your money
863
00:40:57,166 --> 00:40:59,766
I am only going to make my difference
864
00:40:59,766 --> 00:41:02,166
my impact if it is serving you
865
00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:03,466
and that's the thing
866
00:41:03,466 --> 00:41:06,433
that's the biggest question that you can ask yourself
867
00:41:06,433 --> 00:41:07,100
right what
868
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,433
what could go wrong and then that's it
869
00:41:09,433 --> 00:41:11,766
and then that's why I want to create this world
870
00:41:11,766 --> 00:41:14,333
and then thank you for sharing that Tilly
871
00:41:14,466 --> 00:41:17,300
because that's like life taking risk
872
00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:20,533
and it's a very great leadership skill yeah
873
00:41:20,566 --> 00:41:23,300
taking calculated risk just do it
874
00:41:23,833 --> 00:41:24,900
yeah definitely
875
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:26,700
just do it just do it
876
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,766
just do it just do it okay
877
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,933
you can totally feel our passion
878
00:41:34,966 --> 00:41:37,766
so Tilly is right there with me
879
00:41:37,766 --> 00:41:39,700
I cannot imagine how
880
00:41:40,433 --> 00:41:45,933
amazing of a school principal you are Tilly seriously
881
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,500
I would love I wish I had you at
882
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:52,333
at my school thank you
883
00:41:52,366 --> 00:41:55,666
thank you I'm just hoping to uh
884
00:41:55,666 --> 00:41:58,333
be better with my coaching skills
885
00:41:58,666 --> 00:41:59,466
uh
886
00:42:00,033 --> 00:42:01,500
no one is perfect
887
00:42:02,066 --> 00:42:03,600
uh and in life
888
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,866
we all do our best that's
889
00:42:05,866 --> 00:42:09,066
that's what we do I know we do it
890
00:42:09,066 --> 00:42:11,466
we do it our way yeah
891
00:42:11,466 --> 00:42:13,666
right or wrong good or bad
892
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:17,000
but it's our way and in the meantime
893
00:42:17,233 --> 00:42:20,266
we can all make mistakes it's okay
894
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:23,400
and then and then get on board
895
00:42:24,266 --> 00:42:27,800
apologize when necessary yeah
896
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,466
admit it change
897
00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:33,500
this is how you become a better person
898
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:35,933
this is how you become a better doctor
899
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,500
a better teacher a better administrator
900
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:41,100
this is how you do it actually
901
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,500
so that's I mean
902
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,700
now you know what I am thinking about
903
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,000
I'm calculating
904
00:42:47,033 --> 00:42:50,400
how many students do you have in your school in China
905
00:42:50,966 --> 00:42:54,100
around 600 now oh my God
906
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:59,300
600 people imagine you at the top
907
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:03,566
you leading now with a totally different mindset
908
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:07,766
empowering everybody to come up with their own
909
00:43:08,466 --> 00:43:11,400
decisions aligned with their truth
910
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:17,000
and now the teachers whoever works at that school
911
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,066
the way that they show up
912
00:43:19,066 --> 00:43:23,700
the way that they actually hold dear
913
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:26,233
and then they just actually show up with their truth
914
00:43:26,233 --> 00:43:27,900
their empowered mindset
915
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,700
and then the way that they impact the students
916
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,766
and then I'm getting goosebumps
917
00:43:33,766 --> 00:43:35,166
and then these students
918
00:43:35,366 --> 00:43:37,900
they show up in their empowered mindset
919
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:40,266
and then they go interact with the world
920
00:43:40,266 --> 00:43:44,500
and ah can you imagine the ripple effect yeah
921
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:46,266
yeah it's the yeah
922
00:43:46,266 --> 00:43:48,466
it's the ripple effect and
923
00:43:48,466 --> 00:43:49,433
and you know
924
00:43:49,433 --> 00:43:52,600
we don't even have to reach out to everyone
925
00:43:53,033 --> 00:43:54,900
the more the merrier yes
926
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:59,566
but trying is the key yeah
927
00:43:59,566 --> 00:44:01,400
just try yeah
928
00:44:01,466 --> 00:44:03,033
try do your best
929
00:44:03,033 --> 00:44:04,600
change people lives
930
00:44:04,633 --> 00:44:06,900
and also while changing people lives
931
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,033
this is a this is my maybe biggest takeaway
932
00:44:10,033 --> 00:44:13,133
I'm wondering actually how you feel about it as well
933
00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:15,433
I have a question actually for you that
934
00:44:15,433 --> 00:44:16,866
because I have an answer
935
00:44:16,866 --> 00:44:20,633
but I'm curious to know your perspective um
936
00:44:20,633 --> 00:44:21,800
I wonder
937
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,566
what is your biggest awareness
938
00:44:24,566 --> 00:44:27,500
or aha moment that you had
939
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,400
while coaching a client
940
00:44:30,266 --> 00:44:31,900
oh coaching a client
941
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:35,100
not teaching my coaching education oh
942
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,700
that's a wonderful question to ask
943
00:44:38,833 --> 00:44:39,633
uh
944
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,500
I am gonna say my biggest aha moment was this
945
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,166
to be safe seen
946
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,900
heard and appreciated is what everybody wants and needs
947
00:44:53,633 --> 00:44:57,966
that's why I created my curriculum of Neuro Shine
948
00:44:57,966 --> 00:45:01,766
technology around it it was the same for everybody
949
00:45:01,833 --> 00:45:03,133
whoever I coached
950
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,400
whoever I interacted with
951
00:45:06,766 --> 00:45:11,400
and even before going to my clients
952
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,366
that's what I wanted myself
953
00:45:14,166 --> 00:45:15,300
yes
954
00:45:15,833 --> 00:45:17,866
yes from others
955
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:21,000
like whenever I was going through my challenges
956
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,566
as I was sharing with you in my corporate world
957
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,266
whenever I was asking those very disempowering
958
00:45:27,266 --> 00:45:29,233
very negative wrong questions to ask
959
00:45:29,233 --> 00:45:30,700
like what is wrong with me
960
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:34,466
I needed somebody to make me feel safe
961
00:45:34,466 --> 00:45:36,033
seen heard and appreciated
962
00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,733
I couldn't people
963
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,400
people couldn't give it to me
964
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,700
nobody was able to give that to me
965
00:45:43,066 --> 00:45:46,400
nobody even the training programs that I have done
966
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Tilly sometimes I shared in my program
967
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,400
as you as you will remember
968
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:52,566
in the in our zoom classes
969
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:55,900
even the programs like it's
970
00:45:55,966 --> 00:45:57,633
of course I'm always grateful
971
00:45:57,633 --> 00:45:59,966
I have taken a lot I have become who I am
972
00:45:59,966 --> 00:46:01,700
with everything that I have Learned
973
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,766
and still yet
974
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,166
I always because I'm super sensitive
975
00:46:06,166 --> 00:46:09,400
I can sense the energy I'm a Pisces as well
976
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,200
you know
977
00:46:10,633 --> 00:46:14,300
studying metaphysics for like over 14 years now
978
00:46:14,366 --> 00:46:17,366
I was always paying attention more to the energy
979
00:46:17,766 --> 00:46:20,433
and I always felt that judgment
980
00:46:20,433 --> 00:46:23,333
there was this like subtle judgment
981
00:46:23,966 --> 00:46:25,600
and then I felt judged
982
00:46:26,266 --> 00:46:28,366
and then whenever there was judgment
983
00:46:28,366 --> 00:46:30,400
I didn't want to show up as myself
984
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,566
I didn't want to fall
985
00:46:32,766 --> 00:46:36,666
because that was not a safe place to fall
986
00:46:36,666 --> 00:46:40,833
I was judged I was told what to do
987
00:46:40,833 --> 00:46:44,300
I was being fixed and then I was like oh
988
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:46,133
you should do that no
989
00:46:46,233 --> 00:46:48,600
ask me what do I want
990
00:46:49,466 --> 00:46:53,233
and that's why coming from my own perspective
991
00:46:53,233 --> 00:46:57,000
I believe I also saw that in my clients
992
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,066
and that's why it became my biggest nourishing moment
993
00:47:00,466 --> 00:47:02,833
yeah yeah yeah
994
00:47:02,833 --> 00:47:04,733
this is this is big
995
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,400
yeah this is huge
996
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,900
thank you for sharing that perspective
997
00:47:10,433 --> 00:47:12,166
um yeah
998
00:47:12,266 --> 00:47:14,066
is that like I'm the yeah yeah
999
00:47:14,066 --> 00:47:17,966
like mine is this this definitely yeah
1000
00:47:17,966 --> 00:47:23,900
like mine is mostly I believe maybe like
1001
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,666
like if nothing else
1002
00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:27,766
this may inspire
1003
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,466
others to join this world of transformation
1004
00:47:32,466 --> 00:47:34,366
and going through this training
1005
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,000
and not only the training transformed myself
1006
00:47:38,266 --> 00:47:43,100
but during coaching with clients
1007
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:48,866
my biggest takeaway is that most of the time
1008
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:52,866
I see that I'm no special
1009
00:47:54,266 --> 00:47:56,800
and it's not only me
1010
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,100
seeing my clients going through similar challenges
1011
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,266
having similar fears and going through even similar
1012
00:48:05,266 --> 00:48:08,366
similar issues and challenges
1013
00:48:08,366 --> 00:48:11,166
like devastating challenges in life
1014
00:48:11,766 --> 00:48:14,300
this because when you're in it
1015
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:15,966
you can't see it right
1016
00:48:15,966 --> 00:48:18,766
you're in it you're the victim right
1017
00:48:18,833 --> 00:48:21,700
but looking at the client
1018
00:48:22,266 --> 00:48:24,133
giving the client a space
1019
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,800
and going through the process with the client
1020
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:30,766
wow sometimes I wonder like
1021
00:48:30,766 --> 00:48:34,433
am I coaching my client or am I being coached
1022
00:48:34,433 --> 00:48:35,566
oh wow
1023
00:48:35,566 --> 00:48:37,800
yeah right
1024
00:48:37,966 --> 00:48:42,400
because this gives another perspective
1025
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,366
it gives me the option to look at it from outside
1026
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,866
what's happening to me oh
1027
00:48:48,866 --> 00:48:50,400
this is what it is
1028
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,300
which I never get to do it for myself
1029
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,466
but through my client I reach that moment
1030
00:48:57,066 --> 00:48:59,366
this huge and this really helps
1031
00:48:59,366 --> 00:49:03,466
me to get out of the victim mentality easier
1032
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,366
so this is so normal
1033
00:49:05,366 --> 00:49:08,800
I'm not the only one because we tend to say
1034
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:09,200
you know
1035
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,500
being the victim or you know what this is whatever
1036
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:13,566
you know I'm going through this life is miserable
1037
00:49:13,566 --> 00:49:17,500
you know this no yeah yeah wow
1038
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,133
this is huge right
1039
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,100
and I wasn't expecting that
1040
00:49:24,266 --> 00:49:28,200
this is why like from 12 to 3 12 to 4 doesn't matter
1041
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,066
just thank you I really appreciate you shiny
1042
00:49:33,066 --> 00:49:38,733
you personally you with all your energy and insight
1043
00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:44,833
and I'm so glad that I have the whole package
1044
00:49:44,833 --> 00:49:47,200
without thinking as a risk taker
1045
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,400
and I'm having now in uh
1046
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,266
the PC I see training I'm gonna be in in September
1047
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,066
another sleepless but amazing evenings 2 or 3 months
1048
00:49:57,066 --> 00:49:58,700
I'm looking forward to it now
1049
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:03,200
I have no hesitation and neuro shine technology
1050
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:06,100
wow
1051
00:50:06,766 --> 00:50:09,500
oh yeah oh my God
1052
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:11,600
thank you I'm receiving thank you
1053
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,233
every word I'm receiving with love
1054
00:50:14,233 --> 00:50:16,533
thank you I'm really sincere
1055
00:50:16,866 --> 00:50:17,633
oh my God
1056
00:50:17,633 --> 00:50:22,900
I am thinking all the words with Grace with gratitude
1057
00:50:23,066 --> 00:50:24,500
with love I believe
1058
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:27,000
this is a beautiful moment to just drop
1059
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,533
with a cherry on top yes
1060
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:35,300
so I would love to thank you for being here
1061
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:39,266
for sharing your experience with anybody out there
1062
00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:41,766
so that they can have the inspiration
1063
00:50:41,766 --> 00:50:43,166
they can follow their dreams
1064
00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:45,033
whatever that is in their heart
1065
00:50:45,033 --> 00:50:48,333
that's what we want that's that's the encouragement
1066
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,000
any other parting words that you wanna share
1067
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,366
before we just say bye
1068
00:50:52,366 --> 00:50:56,166
bye to everyone well uh
1069
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,666
for the ones who are watching or listening
1070
00:51:01,033 --> 00:51:02,300
please please
1071
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:08,933
please consider taking this coaching course
1072
00:51:09,866 --> 00:51:11,700
not only to become a coach
1073
00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:14,866
you don't have to become a coach for yourself
1074
00:51:15,466 --> 00:51:18,700
for your daughters for your sons for your husbands
1075
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:19,566
for your wives
1076
00:51:19,566 --> 00:51:24,300
for your moms for yourself for everything please
1077
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:26,233
please please do so
1078
00:51:26,233 --> 00:51:27,666
do not wait
1079
00:51:28,166 --> 00:51:32,000
and put your sons and daughters in this program
1080
00:51:32,366 --> 00:51:34,700
this is what I'm gonna do wow
1081
00:51:34,766 --> 00:51:35,800
like this
1082
00:51:36,566 --> 00:51:38,400
you don't have to become a coach
1083
00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:41,466
that's that's not the big idea here
1084
00:51:41,466 --> 00:51:44,966
this is it's more than that it's beyond that yeah
1085
00:51:44,966 --> 00:51:46,566
that's why I always say
1086
00:51:46,766 --> 00:51:50,800
becoming a coach is a cherry on top yes
1087
00:51:51,433 --> 00:51:55,266
it's a cherry on top so thank you so much to Lee
1088
00:51:55,266 --> 00:51:56,300
thank you
1089
00:51:56,833 --> 00:52:00,166
and then thank you everybody for staying with us
1090
00:52:00,166 --> 00:52:02,066
for watching and listening to us
1091
00:52:02,066 --> 00:52:04,733
please share this if you resonate
1092
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:08,800
like put put that like button and subscribe
1093
00:52:09,033 --> 00:52:12,266
so that we can just share love with more people
1094
00:52:12,266 --> 00:52:14,466
more hearts and more souls around the world
1095
00:52:14,466 --> 00:52:16,766
we need this in today's world
1096
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:20,200
and until next time keep shining your light
1097
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,500
bye bye thanks silly bye bye bye
1098
00:52:26,466 --> 00:52:28,933
go galactic go galactic then you