54. The Hidden Gut Fix for Fatigue, Cravings, and Weight Gain with Colleen Cutcliffe

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The real question isn't, what's the best probiotic?
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But what supports metabolic health?
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So, flash forward, we're now recovering our guy
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and we're concerned about our metabolic health.
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Why is that distinction so critical for people?
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The right question is, what do you want your probiotic
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to be doing for you?
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What is the problem you're trying to solve?
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And to add to that, you can expect more
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from next-generation probiotics.
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And you should be looking for something
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that's going to boost your digestion and your metabolism.
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And it's going to help you with your cravings.
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And it's going to help you with your energy
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and all of those things that fixing your microbiome
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really can do.
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And so, rather than what's the best probiotic,
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the question is, what's the best probiotic for me?
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Am I trying to hit up all those things?
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And if you are, then you should start
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looking for these probiotics that
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have these next-generation strains in them.
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Before we dive into today's episode,
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I wanted to say that wellness was never
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meant to be a solo journey.
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All right, welcome everyone to...
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Everyone who's joining us live, welcome.
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I'm excited to get to your AMAs.
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My friend who I said I feel like I've known forever,
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but we just met at an amazing dinner party
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with our dear friend, Dr. Darshan Shah.
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Colin Cutliff.
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Colin Cutliff. Cut Cliff.
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Thanks so much for having me.
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Thank you for having me. Cut Cliff.
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Cut Cliff, yeah.
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Welcome Colin Cutliff to Rooted in Wellness.
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Thank you. Thanks so much for having me.
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I agree. We met at one dinner
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and we just bonded immediately.
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And I think we have so much stuff in common
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about how we've come to where we are here.
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I've just never a straight line.
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And so excited to dig into stuff with you today.
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I cannot wait to hear more about your story
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because it resonated so deeply with me.
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Let's start off by the intention of this podcast really.
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So merging Eastern medicine with Western medicine,
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but also how everyone listening can feel more rooted,
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rooted in themselves and their health and their happiness
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and almost like this inner knowingness
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that we have to heal and to know what to do.
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So can I ask you maybe a personal question?
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What allows you to feel more rooted in your everyday
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and who you are in your health?
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Well, I grew up in the United States, but I'm Chinese.
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And so this merge between Eastern and Western philosophies
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and health and wellness has always been kind of something
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that was either in conflict with each other
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or kind of coming together.
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And so I think that for me, a long time ago,
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I did this exercise, which I actually encourage everyone to do,
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which is to write down like literally
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grab a piece of paper and write down,
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what are the most important things to you?
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It doesn't have to be a long list.
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It probably should be only be three or four things.
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And what is the prioritization of things that matter to you?
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And that becomes your compass for happiness.
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And if every day you are living in a way
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that is in line with that list,
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you're gonna feel rooted in health and wellness and peace,
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really.
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And if every day you're doing things
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that are not aligned with that list,
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it's gonna feel disruptive.
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And so I think that's just an important exercise
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and kind of a daily practice to make sure you're living
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in a way that's aligned with what you think
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you should be prioritizing.
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That's so beautiful.
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We're living at such a time of like just deep overwhelm
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and massive to-do lists.
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And a lot of us wake up and we've rushed into our day.
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And it's easy to get distracted, right?
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Yeah.
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And I know you'll probably mention later too,
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just the feeling of gratitude and kind of like narrowing
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everything in, brings more of a sense of peace and calm,
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which we're learning is impacting our gut microbiome
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and taking your way stress.
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Yeah.
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But I'm curious like also because of your healing journey
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and for a lot of the men and women
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who are sitting in that chair,
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because we've gotten to a place
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or somewhere in our family has gotten to a place
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of health and balances, we're very aware
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when we drift from the things that cause us to feel rooted.
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So do you notice when you're drifting?
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Are there certain habits that you have to cause you
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to feel uprooted from who you are in your health?
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Well, I would say it's probably the people around me
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who notice more for many of us.
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You know, your friends, your family,
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your spouse are sort of saying what is going on with you.
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They're usually the, I think the early warning signals
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that something's not quite right.
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And I think it happens when, like I said,
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you're if I'm acting in a way or I'm prioritizing things
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in a way that aren't aligned with what I know
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are the priorities for me, like I miss a kids event
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and that's to do something for work
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and that's not my priority, right?
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And so those are the moments where you don't even
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necessarily know that that's the thing,
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but then it just triggers like just disappointment
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throughout the rest of the day or throughout the rest of the week.
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And so I think those are, those are moments.
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And the other thing is I'm pretty religious.
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And so if I want to have like my weekly sermon
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and I don't have to go to church,
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but I have to get that sermon
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and now everything is available online,
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that also helps keep me grounded
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in there are things bigger than me out there.
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And that's just really helpful and calming to know.
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Yeah, I love the brought that up.
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Again, it goes back to that overwhelm.
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And I think when we pull back and find
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whether it's connection to ourselves,
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connection to others or connection to a greater cause,
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kind of lessens the grip of the intensity of life.
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It's actually these days.
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Yeah, and I'd say the other big trick
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is learning how to say no to things
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because there are going to be a million people
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who are going to want a piece of you
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and they're going to want things from you.
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And being able to say no to that
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is your way of saying yes to the things
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that actually matter to you.
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And so that becomes an important discipline, I think.
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So good.
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It's a super power to say no.
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Yeah, I think so.
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You're a busy lady, you know,
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sharing with us for the show.
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So excited to have you on as an expert
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as a scientist to be able to speak to the microbiome.
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We hear from so many doctors.
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We hear from so many men.
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But I think that your approach
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and the way that you speak about the gut microbiome
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and digestion, you make it so much more tangible
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for us to understand.
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You have a plethora of information and science
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behind being the CEO and co-founder of pendulum therapeutics.
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So let's start off with this concept of digestion.
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It's a hot topic.
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Everyone thinks that the gut microbiome
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is simply digestion when it is so much more than that.
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And your work is tying all of this together.
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And I have a feeling you'll say that
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in what we're uncovering about the gut microbiome,
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we're still in the early stages
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of uncovering this ecosystem within us
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and what it can do.
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But can you share a little bit
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about how they got microbiome now
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is so much more than just digestion?
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Absolutely.
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And all of us, I think, do believe and know fundamentally
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that our gut microbiome is important.
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People are a lot of people been taking probiotics.
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They try to eat well.
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They're eating kimchi, trying to drink kombucha.
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And so I think, and there are all these phrases
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that we use all the time.
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Oh, that's my gut instinct.
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I've got butterflies in my stomach.
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All these emotions that we have, we tie back to our guts.
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And so inherently, I think we all know
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that the gut is so important.
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But this is one of those cases where science
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is finally catching up with kind of what we intuitively know.
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And it wasn't until kind of DNA sequencing technologies
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became available that 20 years ago,
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we could actually start to understand
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what is the gut microbiome and what is it doing.
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And the biggest, most fundamental thing
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that we've uncovered is that traditionally,
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if you go look in like a med school book or biology book,
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there are 11 systems, 11 organ systems in our body.
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Every one of them is tied to the microbiome.
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And so we now know that the microbiome is tied
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to every one of your systems,
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which means that it's tied to every one of your ailments
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and health and everything that you're feeling and doing.
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And so how do we start to tap into that?
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That is kind of the magic of the microbiome.
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And that's where we sort of think about,
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the microbiome is more than just digestion.
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The microbiome is all of your biological systems.
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How do we tap into it?
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How do we understand it, too?
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It's funny.
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People always ask me how I get my kids
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to make better food choices, which isn't easy,
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especially when you know as they get older,
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but something that I've done since my kids were little
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is getting them in tune with their bowel movements
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and their poop.
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I talk about poop all the time with my clients.
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And they notice a difference in their digestion
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when they consume foods that tend to be less nutrient rich.
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So things that are packaged,
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or maybe the pizza and, you know,
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chip birthday parties and stuff like that,
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but there's really no other way.
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Like if we could,
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if we could get more information or at least have access
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to understanding the gut,
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seeing what happens most doctors aren't running things
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like stool tests or aren't even asking about digestion,
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there's more awareness around when we were off
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or when our digestion was off as an opportunity
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to tune into the healing that needed to take place.
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Absolutely.
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And it's so funny that, you know,
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we as a society were constantly building tech
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and devices to measure every little thing about,
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you know, the biometrics of our body.
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And yet the, still the most powerful metric
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of whether you have a good gut is your poop.
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Right.
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I mean, it really is.
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And I talk about this,
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but for anybody who's out there listening,
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you know, imagine are you someone,
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have you ever pooped and then turn around
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and looked in the toilet at what was in the bowl?
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Yeah.
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If you were ring on it,
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I think everyone would raise their hand and say,
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yes, I do that.
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Maybe you do it every single time you poop.
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And the question is, why?
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What are you looking for?
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Why are you looking in the toilet,
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but why are you annoyed when there's too much toilet paper
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in there and you can't see your poop?
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And it really does come back to this caveman information
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that what you're looking for is your poop is an indicator
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of what's happening inside your body.
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is that your brain is sort of clocking baseline.
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Okay, this is what my poop is supposed to look like.
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This is what it's supposed to seem like.
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This is what it's supposed to, you know,
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come out of how often am I supposed to go.
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You kind of are tracking that all the time in your brain
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so that when it is off, you know something's wrong.
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I mean, it literally is our biggest agnostic tool.
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Absolutely.
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So look at your poop.
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Look at your poop.
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Don't be embarrassed.
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Check it out.
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Yeah, teach your kids.
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We have to start doing this more often.
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Thank you for clarifying.
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I want to dive into the work that you've uncovered, you know,
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80%, 88% of Americans are metabolically inflexible,
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inflexible.
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So what discoveries, what findings have you found in the lab
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that associate the gut microbiome and gut bacteria
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with this metabolic dysfunction?
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Well, one of the really interesting things
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that happened once people started to be able to look
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at the gut microbiome is they started to discover
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that there are some differences between people who are healthy
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and people who have metabolic syndrome.
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So all the way to having, you know, full on type two diabetes.
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And maybe one of the most interesting things is that
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it wasn't just like, oh, we studied a bunch of Americans
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and we saw this difference.
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It was global.
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It was in Europe, it was in Asia, it was in Australia,
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it was in the US.
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And people started reporting these comparative studies
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where they were showing that there were just these differences
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in people that had metabolic issues
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versus people who didn't have metabolic issues.
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That was the first thing that said,
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there might be something interesting here.
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The second thing, and this is going to get a little bit gross,
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but there are these, there's a procedure
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called a fecal microbiome transplant.
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And it is exactly how it sounds.
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You literally give someone your shit.
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And so you take stool from one person who's healthy
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and you put it into a person with diabetes
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and some of these studies that were done a few of them,
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they showed that when you did that,
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you could actually see better insulin sensitivity.
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In other words, you could resolve their metabolic syndrome
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by just simply doing a microbiome transplant,
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stool transplant.
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And then that tells you, okay, there's something
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in that transplant that is conferring
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of benefit to these people.
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So you take the data of what's the difference between
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the sick person and the healthy person?
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Can I start to understand why those differences
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might be important for metabolic health?
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And then you look at the fact
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that you can now have a curative component
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and you're off to the races.
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You're like, there's something there.
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And what we have discovered,
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let's fast forward 20 years of research,
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is that your gut microbiome is actually
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where you metabolize the vast majority of your food
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into all these molecules that are really important
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for your immune system, your inflammatory response
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and a little thing called GLP1.
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So all these drugs out there, these GLP1 drugs,
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they're actually mimicking your body's natural hormone,
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a GLP1 hormone that is stimulated by your gut microbiome
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and by very specific gut microbes.
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And we now know what those are.
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Wow, and it's so important to know
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that we make that already, right?
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It's a peptide.
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We make that already.
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And more importantly, you can start to lose
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parts of your gut microbiome over time
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through taking antibiotics, simply through aging,
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through travel.
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Actually, you're circadian rhythm when it changes.
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You start to lose some of these microbes.
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When we women go through menopause,
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we lose these microbes.
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And so when you're depleted in these microbes,
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your body is now not able to make
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as much of its natural GLP1.
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And so now you start to look to external ways
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to improve that, but you actually could
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talking about getting rooted in wellness,
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you can improve the roots of your gut microbiome
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and supplement those back and get back
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to be able to make your own GLP1
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and be metabolically healthier.
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We're going to dive more into metabolic function
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with GLP1 and the amazing pendulum products
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which I'm going to share about.
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Let's go back to something that you said.
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This isn't an American issue, a US issue.
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This is a global phenomenon.
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And that really surprised me there
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because typically, if I'm educating my clients,
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the words that we're hearing a lot of
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are variety and diversity.
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And I kind of made the assumption
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that that was an issue within the US
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because of what we've done to our soil.
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But if this is a global issue,
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what are some of the common contributors
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that are causing this?
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Well, McDonald's.
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Yeah.
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I think stress.
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Yes, me.
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So does stress, right?
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I mean, in some ways, it's an awesome thing
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that we are a more globally connected community of people.
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But the downside of that is
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that we also spread all our bad habits to each other.
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And so when you look across the board globally at the diet,
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which is one of the biggest waste and fluenture microbiome,
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you start to see that there are some commonalities
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like the depletion or the reduction in fiber intake
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and polyphenol intake.
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Those are kind of global things that are happening
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that we, at the increase in facts, in high-fat foods,
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in processed foods.
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All of that is sort of happening at a global level.
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And so it's maybe not surprising from that perspective
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that you're seeing this global increase in obesity
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and metabolic issues.
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And to your point, also a global increase in anxiety
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and stress and digestive issues.
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All of those things are coming together.
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That is, yeah, most adults in children, right?
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Which is really frightening.
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Yeah.
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In fact, it was so crazy.
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I read this article that talked about infant baby car seats.
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How car seats for infants used to be a certain size.
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And then all the manufacturers had to make them larger
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because babies were getting fatter earlier and earlier.
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I mean, that's how early we're talking about it starting.
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Yeah, I'm talking all the time around,
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like going to school yards and stuff like that.
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I've never seen so many obese children
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and it's not a judgment on the parents.
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It's sadness because I'm sure a lot of these parents
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are doing things that they think are normal or are right,
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but it's just become too accessible to have access
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to these foods.
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And then we have a school system that's selling them
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the garbage food that's nutrient void,
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which is causing the issue to begin with.
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Yeah, the most convenient and the least expensive foods,
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which is what everybody's looking for,
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comedians and inexpensive are the worst for your health
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and the worst for your microbiome.
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And so that's a different system.
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We could talk about another day, exactly.
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What's interesting of them, you mentioned your, I think,
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background from my South Asian background.
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There are two cultures who spent a lot of time focusing
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on food, food preparation.
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There was a lot of a variety of fiber, probiotics
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and prebiotics and stuff like that in our diets.
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I found myself often saying to my clients,
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instead of going on a diet,
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just try eating like your ancestors.
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And for the first time last week,
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I was met with somebody on the other end
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who was younger female client.
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She's like, I don't even know what that is anymore.
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Like, what does that look like?
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She was Eastern European,
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but I think that there's something so powerful
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if we just like forget this diet mentality,
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just simply go back to what your ancestors were eating.
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You'll probably see a lot of those polypinal rich foods,
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nutrient rich foods, lots of good quality fats
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and things that came from the earth
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that help our system thrive.
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Absolutely.
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And those foods are going to help you,
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help you have a thriving gut microbiome.
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And when you have the right gut microbiome,
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all these cravings that you get,
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all these crashes that you get, those will go away too.
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And so you start yourself on a really good hamster wheel,
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which is to say that once you start replenishing your body
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with these kind of more whole foods
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or more ancestral foods,
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you'll start to have a more diverse,
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in a good way, microbiome.
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And then you'll find that all these other things
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will begin to resolve themselves.
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So you start to get benefit after benefit from it.
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Hmm.
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I want to go back to the fecal transplants.
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Okay, for a second.
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Let's talk about food.
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Let's talk about food again.
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Just because I know that there's also been other studies
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around depression and anxiety
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through fecal transplants.
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How far are we in terms of looking into the future
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on when this can be used as a modality?
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It sounds really gross to think about, obviously.
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But is this the direction of where things are moving
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in order to restore the body?
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I think it's a, you know,
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throw the kitchen sink at it kind of a solution.
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So there are certainly places where the efficacy
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of the fecal microbiome transplant,
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like in Clostridium difficile infections,
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is incredible.
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And, you know, when death is on the line,
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you'll take that fecal microbiome transplant.
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And so I think in those cases,
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they really are making their way much more into practice
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and to clinical practice.
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I think in other places, it's harder
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because there is a safety issue with that.
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Oh, I can imagine.
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Yes, because as you mentioned,
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we're still very early in our understanding
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about the microbiome.
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And so when you do these transplants,
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you're transplanting everything.
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And so you don't really know if you're getting
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everything along with it.
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And so there are cases that have been published,
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showing, for example, a woman had a C-diff infection.
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She received a fecal microbiome transplant
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from another person.
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And then all of a sudden, after that,
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it cured her C-diff infection,
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but she started to have metabolic issues.
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And she never had those before.
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And so you're, you're really transplanting
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a lot of unknown into a person.
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And so I think where it's starting is the fecal microbiome
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transplant tells you that there's something
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curative in that transplant and where we have to get to,
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where the investigation and the money
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and the time and energy has to get to
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is distilling down what are the parts of that
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that are actually leading to that benefit?
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Because that's the actual product
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that you want to make that safe and reproducible
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and palatable.
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Yeah, literally.
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Yeah, it seems like such an extreme also.
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Like we've really gotten to a point
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where we're looking at this.
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Of course, it's going to be used for extreme cases,
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but just going back to the roots of healing
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and what our gut needs.
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That's what fascinates me.
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So gut healing digestion is literally
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probably number one, number two
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that I'm working with most, with most my clients.
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How far back do we have to look?
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You know, we think about,
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again, if we're talking about poop,
535
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we're looking at the here and the now.
536
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But as we were sharing stories,
537
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prior to recording, my gut issues go back
538
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to like one of us got here as a baby
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and growing up being put on antibiotics
540
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so many times over the years.
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So do we need to start all the way back there
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to maybe understand the lack of biodiversity that we have?
543
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I think for some people, maybe for many people, we do.
544
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That's really where the root is.
545
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And there was a really compelling story.
546
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This is one of the reasons I started my company.
547
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The study came out in 2012 from Marty Blazer at NYU.
548
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And he showed that infants under six months old,
549
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infants who were on a lot of antibiotics
550
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were later on in life more prone to obesity and diabetes
551
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and these chronic illnesses of metabolism.
552
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So it wasn't like, okay, when there were two
553
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they had issues.
554
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They were under six months old,
555
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they run a lot of antibiotics
556
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and now you're looking at them as teenagers and adults
557
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and you're seeing their more predisposed
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to these metabolic issues.
559
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The Mayo Clinic repeated that study a few years later
560
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and they showed that kids under two years old
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if they're in a lot of antibiotics later on in life
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they're not only more prone to obesity and diabetes,
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they're also more prone to allergies.
564
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Asma, ADHD, celiac disease,
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all of these things that show up later in life
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were the result of an early start
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where you completely decimated your microbiome
568
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and somehow never really replenish it
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or could recover from it.
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That's all like a lot of terrible shitty news.
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But the good news is that you can actually
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picture microbiome.
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So unlike your genes, your microbiome can be modified
574
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and you're modifying it all the time
575
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and so the hope of the microbiome is you can change it.
576
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You can replenish it.
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You can get yourself back to a more beneficial
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microbes diverse microbiome
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that can help you with all of these issues.
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So that's really the name of the game.
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It might have started way back early
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and you can't rewind time,
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but you can make up for that today.
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That's just a good point because it invites the opportunity
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to just do further investigation to your past.
586
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So with my son, I ended up having an emergency CC section
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with him.
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I didn't even read the part of the book
589
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because I was so just that's not gonna happen to me
590
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and sure enough, it saved him.
591
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So I ended up nursing him, he was breast-fed
592
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for about 14 months
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and I was giving him a probiotic epith
594
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and I just remember as a mom feeling the guilt,
595
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like I screwed up, I didn't give him that first dose
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00:22:18.120 --> 00:22:20.600
of probiotics and what is this gonna do to him in the future?
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But he's been really healthy,
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but I would say that making conscious choices
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to make up for that has really been at the forefront
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and maybe for listeners whether you were a CC section baby
601
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or if you had to have a CC section with your child,
602
00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:37.400
but let's dive into maybe the repair that can happen from that.
603
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So what are some of the things that people should be doing
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just for just for general repair?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think, and this is just to say that if you are,
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if you need to go on an antibiotic
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because you have a bacterial infection,
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you should go on it.
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So in no way are we saying that you shouldn't go
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on an antibiotic,
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but what we're saying is that when you're doing that
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to be mindful and conscious
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that you have just depleted your microbiome
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00:23:00.800 --> 00:23:02.520
and so you gotta start planning some new seeds
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and I think about it like a garden
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where you had a few weeds growing in it,
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00:23:07.320 --> 00:23:09.080
you had to go on an antibiotic to kill it,
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but the only antibiotics that we have available
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00:23:11.080 --> 00:23:13.280
is like splashing bleach all over your garden.
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So you really kill everything.
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00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:16.360
So now think about that,
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you wanna go back to having your amazing garden,
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00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:20.400
you gotta plant a lot of different kinds of seeds
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00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:21.440
in a lot of ways.
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00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.440
So the most important way that you can replenish your microbiome
627
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.280
is through the food that you eat.
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00:23:28.280 --> 00:23:31.720
And so if you've been a terrible eater
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or you've felt guilty about what you're doing,
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this is the time where you can just reset the whole thing.
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00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.880
So it's a great opportunity to reset with high fiber foods,
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foods that are high in polyphenols,
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these are gonna feed your microbes,
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00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:43.880
and also you can give it a one, two
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00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.600
by not just eating the foods that are gonna feed the good microbes,
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00:23:46.600 --> 00:23:49.200
but also supplementing with those important
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keystone fundamental microbes at the same time.
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00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.760
And that's gonna get you back to potentially
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00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:55.920
even a better state than you were in before.
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00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.200
Beautiful, there's good news.
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00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.760
Yeah, highlight.
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Something that I love that you said,
643
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:01.480
you said that the real question isn't,
644
00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:03.920
what's the best probiotic?
645
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.240
But what supports metabolic health?
646
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.840
So flash forward, we're now recovering our guy
647
00:24:08.840 --> 00:24:11.880
and we're concerned about our metabolic health.
648
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.960
And why is that distinction so critical for people?
649
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:16.320
Yeah, it's an important,
650
00:24:16.320 --> 00:24:18.120
I you must get asked this all the time.
651
00:24:18.120 --> 00:24:20.080
I get asked all the time, what's the best probiotic?
652
00:24:20.080 --> 00:24:21.080
What do I take?
653
00:24:21.080 --> 00:24:21.920
What's this one?
654
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.640
That one, this one's trending most online.
655
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.160
Yes, I love this packaging.
656
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:26.640
This one feels very sciencey.
657
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.840
And so I think the reason I think that
658
00:24:29.840 --> 00:24:31.920
that's sort of the wrong question to ask
659
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:33.920
is because the right question is,
660
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.520
what do you want your probiotic to be doing for you?
661
00:24:36.520 --> 00:24:39.120
What is the problem you're trying to solve?
662
00:24:39.120 --> 00:24:40.720
And to add to that,
663
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.640
you can expect more from next generation probiotics.
664
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.280
So rather than asking what's the best probiotic out there,
665
00:24:46.280 --> 00:24:48.000
it's what am I trying to solve?
666
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.200
If you're trying to solve digestion and beyond
667
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:51.800
and you're really trying to capitalize
668
00:24:51.800 --> 00:24:53.720
on all the latest microbiome science,
669
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:54.920
then you should be looking for something
670
00:24:54.920 --> 00:24:58.200
that's going to boost your digestion and your metabolism
671
00:24:58.200 --> 00:24:59.800
and it's going to help you with your cravings
672
00:24:59.800 --> 00:25:01.480
and it's going to help you with your energy
673
00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.520
and all of those things that fixing your microbiome
674
00:25:04.520 --> 00:25:05.440
really can do.
675
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:09.000
And so rather than what's the best probiotic,
676
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.440
the question is, what's the best probiotic for me?
677
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.120
Am I trying to hit up all those things?
678
00:25:14.120 --> 00:25:16.040
And if you are, then you should start
679
00:25:16.040 --> 00:25:17.200
looking for these probiotics
680
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.400
that have these next generation strains in them.
681
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:21.920
I want to take a quick break from today's episode
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to ask if you've ever felt overwhelmed
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by all the conflicting health advice out there, I get it.
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I'm curious, like what's one of the biggest myths
694
00:25:53.760 --> 00:25:55.640
that you see with probiotics?
695
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.080
And two, for listeners who maybe have been
696
00:25:58.080 --> 00:26:01.560
on the same probiotic, dealing with the same strains
697
00:26:01.560 --> 00:26:05.560
of bacteria for so long, for so many years
698
00:26:05.560 --> 00:26:07.000
at what point do you diversify?
699
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.000
Do you tell your body by taking the same probiotic strain
700
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.680
for so many years to stop producing that probiotic?
701
00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:14.680
Is there truth to that?
702
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.600
I don't know that I've seen any evidence of truth to that,
703
00:26:21.600 --> 00:26:24.280
but what I would say there's some evidence of
704
00:26:24.280 --> 00:26:27.080
is that switching to a different probiotic
705
00:26:27.080 --> 00:26:28.640
with different strains could be helpful
706
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:32.080
because you might be just replenished well enough
707
00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:33.440
on what you've been taking.
708
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.240
And so you can move to another one
709
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:37.160
to kind of increase the diversity.
710
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.560
I think there are a few, first of all,
711
00:26:41.560 --> 00:26:45.000
the whole probiotics and supplements industry is complicated.
712
00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.760
Oh my gosh, especially now, now more than ever before.
713
00:26:48.760 --> 00:26:52.160
Yeah, I mean, if you ever walked into a grocery store
714
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.520
or a convenience store and just looked at the shelves
715
00:26:54.520 --> 00:26:55.520
and shelves of things, you're like,
716
00:26:55.520 --> 00:26:56.360
what is this?
717
00:26:56.360 --> 00:26:57.200
Do I need this?
718
00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.040
Do I want this?
719
00:26:58.040 --> 00:27:00.680
And so I think some of the myths of probiotics
720
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.520
that have been, frankly, more marketing gimmicks
721
00:27:03.520 --> 00:27:06.320
than they have been based in science
722
00:27:06.320 --> 00:27:09.000
are more CFUs are better.
723
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:12.320
And so when you look there, people are 30 billion CFUs,
724
00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:14.640
100 billion CFUs, 500 billion CFUs,
725
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:17.960
and so more is not always better.
726
00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:19.280
And again, it gets back to this question
727
00:27:19.280 --> 00:27:21.680
of what do you want your probiotic to do for you?
728
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.640
It's not about how many of that are in there.
729
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.840
It's about what the content is.
730
00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:29.600
And to be honest with you, in this case,
731
00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:30.960
you don't even know if those more things
732
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:32.800
are gonna do anything more for you.
733
00:27:32.800 --> 00:27:35.520
I was liking it to coffee, like I love coffee,
734
00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:38.640
but I don't need 100 cups of coffee a day, you know?
735
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.880
I'm good with two, that does the trick.
736
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:44.960
And so you don't need probably 500 billion CFUs
737
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.960
or whatever, what are you trying to solve?
738
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.720
So I think the first thing is don't worry about
739
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.920
the CFUs, what you should really be looking at
740
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:54.360
is what are the strains, what are the ingredients
741
00:27:54.360 --> 00:27:55.600
that are in here?
742
00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:57.120
And when you look at ingredients
743
00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:58.200
and you start looking at labels,
744
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.360
you'll notice on most probiotics, almost every probiotic,
745
00:28:01.360 --> 00:28:04.160
the label will say either bifidobacterium
746
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.040
at the beginning or lactobacillus at the beginning.
747
00:28:08.040 --> 00:28:10.160
It's pretty daunting to read these labels of probiotics.
748
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.600
So there's these words that are so long.
749
00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:13.120
You can barely pronounce it or so on.
750
00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:15.400
But if you just look for the first word,
751
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.200
lactobacillus and bifidobacterium,
752
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.120
you'll start to see that most of the probiotics
753
00:28:20.120 --> 00:28:22.440
on the shelves, that's what's in them.
754
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.680
So the second myth, the first myth
755
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:25.560
is that more CFUs are better for you.
756
00:28:25.560 --> 00:28:28.440
The second myth is that all these probiotics
757
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:29.800
are actually different from each other.
758
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:31.840
And so I encourage people, much like you do,
759
00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:33.440
on probably many other things that you buy
760
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.080
to start looking at labels and familiarizing yourself
761
00:28:36.080 --> 00:28:38.240
with them because you'll start to realize
762
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.160
the different package and the different box
763
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:41.640
is still housing the same pill.
764
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:42.640
Right, yeah.
765
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.560
And the diversity, which is key.
766
00:28:44.560 --> 00:28:46.760
And the diversity is key, exactly.
767
00:28:46.760 --> 00:28:48.280
And what about another myth now?
768
00:28:48.280 --> 00:28:51.880
So we're hearing about shelf stable probiotics
769
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.320
versus refrigerated probiotics.
770
00:28:55.320 --> 00:28:57.480
And if they have to be refrigerated,
771
00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.600
then you might be wasting your money.
772
00:29:01.280 --> 00:29:02.160
That's a great one.
773
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.520
Well, first thing about shelf life stability
774
00:29:04.520 --> 00:29:06.960
that I didn't know that I've learned through my business
775
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.920
is that that is mostly dictated by supply chain people.
776
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:14.120
So of course, yes, they won't go bad.
777
00:29:14.120 --> 00:29:15.840
Exactly, if you think about target,
778
00:29:15.840 --> 00:29:17.560
you don't wanna have things on the target shelves
779
00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:18.400
that are gonna go bad.
780
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.040
And so there are requirements about how shelf stable
781
00:29:21.040 --> 00:29:23.280
and how long your product has to be able to be shelf stable
782
00:29:23.280 --> 00:29:25.680
simply because usually people aren't buying it
783
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.040
at the minute that you manufactured off the line.
784
00:29:28.040 --> 00:29:29.680
And in some ways, that's why I think a lot of people
785
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.680
like to buy directly from the company
786
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:34.160
because you are getting kind of the stuff
787
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.960
in that way as opposed to going to the shelves
788
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.920
where you don't really know how long that's been sitting
789
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:40.440
on a truck to get to the store
790
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:41.280
and then sitting on the shelf
791
00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:43.520
before it makes it way into your home.
792
00:29:43.520 --> 00:29:47.000
So shelf life stability, I think, is important,
793
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.200
but mostly driven by supply chain requirements.
794
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.800
Shelf stable versus refrigerated is interesting.
795
00:29:55.800 --> 00:29:57.400
Some people feel like if it's refrigerated,
796
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:58.840
it must be more potent.
797
00:29:58.840 --> 00:30:01.120
And I think the important thing here is that
798
00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:03.960
there are certain strains which in manufacturing
799
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.840
have been able to be made shelf life stable
800
00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:09.320
and some of them haven't gotten there yet
801
00:30:09.320 --> 00:30:10.560
and so they require refrigeration.
802
00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:13.240
And so the question is for the most viability
803
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.360
of the ingredients that are in that box,
804
00:30:15.360 --> 00:30:17.720
you might need to be refrigerated.
805
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.000
And in fact, for our products, for example,
806
00:30:20.040 --> 00:30:22.120
one of our products does require refrigeration
807
00:30:22.120 --> 00:30:24.720
because one of the strains in there is kind of a diva
808
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.720
and it needs to stay refrigerated to stay viable.
809
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.960
But most of our other products don't require refrigeration.
810
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.000
There's a difference in quality between the products
811
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.640
it's just about whether we were able to figure out
812
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:37.600
how to get something to be shelf life stable
813
00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:39.200
versus refrigerated.
814
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:41.520
You know, it's like milk.
815
00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:43.760
You can buy milk that's refrigerated.
816
00:30:43.760 --> 00:30:44.600
Right.
817
00:30:44.600 --> 00:30:45.440
A lot of the milk that's out there today,
818
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.120
you can buy its room temperature stable.
819
00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:48.880
Got it, yeah, that's true.
820
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:51.920
So what about the argument then of the acidity
821
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.760
and the heat of your stomach acids burning off
822
00:30:54.760 --> 00:30:56.120
whatever bacteria that you're taking
823
00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:59.040
and it not making it to the gut microbiome?
824
00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:00.680
That's really important.
825
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.920
So when you think about the journey,
826
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.760
that's right.
827
00:31:04.760 --> 00:31:06.840
Yes, the journey that has to be made from, you know,
828
00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:09.280
taking a pill to your gut microbiome.
829
00:31:09.280 --> 00:31:12.360
So we think about that it's almost like
830
00:31:12.360 --> 00:31:15.160
somebody trying to infiltrate into a building.
831
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.920
It has to make it through your stomach acid.
832
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.320
So when you think about your stomach
833
00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:20.320
is there to digest foods?
834
00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:22.120
It's the first place where digestion happens.
835
00:31:22.120 --> 00:31:24.160
There's all this, you know, it's highly acidic
836
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:25.960
in order to help break down foods.
837
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.520
And there's also these mechanical forces
838
00:31:27.520 --> 00:31:28.520
that help you break down your food.
839
00:31:28.520 --> 00:31:30.640
So the first thing is your pill has to make it through
840
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.880
that first, you know, you know, the floor is lava
841
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:35.200
at the moment.
842
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.480
It has to be able to survive the acid of the stomach.
843
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.160
And the second thing is once it gets through
844
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.640
the acid of the stomach, it has to make its way
845
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.440
through the digestive tract all the way to the distal colon.
846
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:47.080
So you need to have something that has a time delayed release.
847
00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:49.120
So when you're looking for a good probiotic
848
00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:51.400
that's gonna make its way to the gut microbiome,
849
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.080
when we talk about the gut microbiome,
850
00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:58.080
what we mean is that it has to have an acid resistant capsule
851
00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:00.320
and it has to have time delayed release.
852
00:32:00.320 --> 00:32:02.720
And the third thing you should look for is live probiotics
853
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.680
because if it makes its way all the way there
854
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.000
and it's dead, that's really not as helpful
855
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.600
to colonization either.
856
00:32:08.600 --> 00:32:11.080
Right, okay, thank you for painting that picture.
857
00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:12.680
You're in the labs, you were a scientist.
858
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.880
So being capsulation processed
859
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.600
and having a time release is something
860
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.920
that's going to enable it to make it to where it needs to go.
861
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:24.160
And I understand the aspect of the diva that needs to stay alive.
862
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.840
So that really, it really helps just make the distinction
863
00:32:26.840 --> 00:32:28.720
because I think we're hearing it's either black or white
864
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.320
but I think it really goes back to the reputation of the company
865
00:32:32.320 --> 00:32:35.200
and all the signs that pendulum is putting out there also.
866
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:37.680
So thank you for clarifying that.
867
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:38.880
For people who are listening,
868
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.840
I know that there's a lot of imbalances
869
00:32:40.840 --> 00:32:43.080
that are attributed to the gut microbiome.
870
00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:46.560
So when I'm in an audience and I'm asking
871
00:32:46.560 --> 00:32:47.600
a room full of people,
872
00:32:47.600 --> 00:32:50.120
how many people here have food cravings,
873
00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:53.840
porcelain, irritability, anxiety, constipation, diarrhea,
874
00:32:53.840 --> 00:32:57.760
all of a sudden like every single hand in the audience is of.
875
00:32:57.760 --> 00:32:59.080
But can you tribute this like,
876
00:32:59.080 --> 00:33:02.640
who is this all a reflection of the gut?
877
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.840
I mean, we're saying that dysbiosis
878
00:33:05.840 --> 00:33:08.280
and the gut microbiome is the source of inflammation
879
00:33:08.280 --> 00:33:11.360
and imbalances that could be related to all of these symptoms.
880
00:33:11.360 --> 00:33:12.400
Is there truth to that?
881
00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:15.520
All of these systems are tied through the gut microbiome.
882
00:33:15.520 --> 00:33:17.680
Now, I don't want to be a hammer that sees everything as a nail.
883
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.680
So it's the truth is it might not be your gut microbiome,
884
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.560
your microbiome might be perfectly awesome
885
00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:23.440
and it's something else.
886
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:28.440
And so, but it's an often overlooked part of the body.
887
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.000
And so we talked about this earlier,
888
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.720
is your physician asking you about your gut?
889
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.680
Is your physician tying all of it together
890
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:40.680
into maybe one problem that is really in your gut microbiome?
891
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.000
And I think it's often an overlooked system.
892
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.800
And so that's why people often don't look to it
893
00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:48.560
or realize that it needs repair.
894
00:33:48.560 --> 00:33:50.600
And one of the other things that happens to many of us
895
00:33:50.600 --> 00:33:54.080
is that things are getting worse for us health wise.
896
00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:57.320
But they happen at a pace in which it's unnoticeable.
897
00:33:57.320 --> 00:34:00.560
So like your metabolism, sometimes you notice it immediately.
898
00:34:00.560 --> 00:34:03.160
Like you turn 40 and all of a sudden your metabolism is worse.
899
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.240
But sometimes it's just creeping up on you.
900
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.600
Like, oh, you know, if you compare yourself to 15 years ago,
901
00:34:08.680 --> 00:34:12.320
you would say like, oh, actually my metabolism was better than.
902
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.880
I was sleeping better than I could eat more
903
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.960
different kinds of foods than and not have digestive issues.
904
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.440
I did have more energy then.
905
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.360
And so when you kind of do that look back,
906
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.440
you realize there's been this slow decay
907
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.080
and that's where it could really be your gut microbiome.
908
00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:27.840
And so replenishing your microbiome,
909
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:29.440
I find this with so many people,
910
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:32.360
which is they didn't even realize they had a problem.
911
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:33.200
So they're saying to me like,
912
00:34:33.200 --> 00:34:34.200
well, I'm not trying to solve a problem.
913
00:34:34.200 --> 00:34:35.760
I'm just trying to be the healthiest I can be.
914
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.640
They go on the right microbiome intervention.
915
00:34:38.640 --> 00:34:40.320
And then all of a sudden all these systems
916
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:41.160
are back functional again.
917
00:34:41.160 --> 00:34:42.520
They have more energy.
918
00:34:42.520 --> 00:34:43.360
Yeah.
919
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:44.280
They don't have those food cravings.
920
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:45.520
But they didn't even really realize
921
00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:47.560
how much it had deteriorated over time.
922
00:34:47.560 --> 00:34:48.640
Absolutely.
923
00:34:48.640 --> 00:34:50.560
And I don't think it's fascinating.
924
00:34:50.560 --> 00:34:52.640
If we look at ancient healing cultures,
925
00:34:52.640 --> 00:34:55.760
whether traditional Chinese medicine or Ayurveda,
926
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:59.000
the first thing that they talk to you is about is digestion.
927
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.360
And they're looking at your tongue
928
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.200
and they're asking about your digestive system.
929
00:35:02.200 --> 00:35:04.040
Also, I think they really understand
930
00:35:04.040 --> 00:35:05.680
how to remove your digestive acne
931
00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:08.240
or the heat or the dampness in your body
932
00:35:08.240 --> 00:35:10.280
as really being a source of all those imbalances.
933
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.120
So that's a good takeaway for people
934
00:35:12.120 --> 00:35:13.520
don't ignore the symptoms
935
00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:14.800
because they will creep up.
936
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.680
And often we don't notice that we've drifted so far.
937
00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:18.520
Absolutely.
938
00:35:18.520 --> 00:35:21.040
And I think that all the efforts that you're making
939
00:35:21.040 --> 00:35:23.320
to try to eat healthier and be healthier,
940
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.280
noticing when they do have these improvements
941
00:35:28.520 --> 00:35:30.160
can also take a second.
942
00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:33.760
So I would say that it's not like an overnight
943
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:35.800
for most people, it's going to take,
944
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.200
I always tell people, give it 90 days.
945
00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:39.880
If you're going on a new health regimen,
946
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:41.640
if you're doing it the natural way,
947
00:35:41.640 --> 00:35:43.640
it's going to take a second to kind of get back
948
00:35:43.640 --> 00:35:44.480
into a good place.
949
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.360
But then after that 90 days, do a look back.
950
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.040
And especially if you have a practitioner
951
00:35:49.040 --> 00:35:51.080
who's kind of guiding you through all this,
952
00:35:51.080 --> 00:35:52.560
you'll really be able to see the difference.
953
00:35:52.560 --> 00:35:54.360
Absolutely.
954
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.000
I think it's important you've called it fiber a few times.
955
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.240
This being kind of a hero for the get microbiome.
956
00:35:59.240 --> 00:36:02.400
It sounds like I just got back from a trip at the astrum.
957
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:04.120
And I thought, as a nutritionist,
958
00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:06.480
I was doing pretty well on the fiber fund.
959
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.280
But at an astrum, you were eating,
960
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.160
you know, the bulk of your plate is fiber,
961
00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:12.040
different colors, different veggies,
962
00:36:12.040 --> 00:36:14.480
some fruits and some grains and stuff like that.
963
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.960
It took me a few days to adapt.
964
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.000
So for listeners who might be trying to increase
965
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.120
their fiber intake, maybe take time,
966
00:36:21.120 --> 00:36:24.120
but don't let the symptoms that come up to tear you
967
00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:26.280
from increasing your fiber, is that true?
968
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:27.280
Absolutely.
969
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:32.280
What is the current suggested dietary fiber intake a day?
970
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:35.480
35 to 40, but most people are getting under 15 or 12.
971
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.320
Yes, right.
972
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.920
So here would be my biggest advice.
973
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.120
If you are trying to uptake, sorry,
974
00:36:41.120 --> 00:36:43.080
increase your fiber intake,
975
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.280
don't try to hit that daily value right away.
976
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.280
You'll hurt.
977
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.320
It's gonna be painful.
978
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:52.320
It's gonna be painful.
979
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.720
So ease your way into it.
980
00:36:54.720 --> 00:36:57.800
And to your point, most of us are not getting
981
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:58.720
that fiber intake.
982
00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:01.480
And if you try to get that intake
983
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.800
and you're gonna realize, it's a challenge.
984
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.440
But I think looking at how much fiber
985
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.400
that you're taking in will be a good indicator,
986
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:14.400
at least to know where I am in terms of how much I'm supposed
987
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.200
to be getting and how much I am getting.
988
00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:17.920
And then I would just say that my biggest advice
989
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:20.760
is incremental increases, incremental.
990
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.320
And is that a principle in your house?
991
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.240
Like with your girls was looking at plant fiber
992
00:37:25.240 --> 00:37:27.280
or focus at meals at dinner time?
993
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.960
Oh yeah, my kids, I mean, they are sick of me hearing.
994
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:33.320
So think of hearing me say, you know, high fiber.
995
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:35.880
In fact, at some point I was trying to get,
996
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.120
you know, kids love snacks.
997
00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:39.040
And so I was trying to get fiber through all these
998
00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:40.640
different kinds of crackers.
999
00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:43.360
And at some point my husband said,
1000
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.160
I don't know if you're trying to find
1001
00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:47.680
the most disgusting crackers on earth.
1002
00:37:47.680 --> 00:37:49.560
But you've nailed it with some of these.
1003
00:37:49.560 --> 00:37:51.320
And I'm like, these are the highest fibers.
1004
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.640
But I think that it is hard to get on that fiber in.
1005
00:37:55.640 --> 00:37:56.480
Yeah.
1006
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.520
I want to zone in on that because I think that we're gonna
1007
00:37:58.520 --> 00:38:02.560
move out of this or this kind of craze of keto
1008
00:38:02.560 --> 00:38:04.400
and animal protein.
1009
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.920
And a lot of people that I'm working with
1010
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.080
are becoming deficient in fiber intake
1011
00:38:08.080 --> 00:38:11.440
or fearful that carbohydrates from plants
1012
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:14.960
is attributed to their weight loss or the weight gain, right?
1013
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.000
That's a fear around carbs, which is insane to me.
1014
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:20.600
Part of my healing journey involved eating more carbs
1015
00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:23.200
and more squashes and different types of potatoes
1016
00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:24.320
and stuff like that.
1017
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.120
My body was actually able to heal.
1018
00:38:26.120 --> 00:38:29.520
So I hope that this takes like front and center stage
1019
00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:32.280
moving forward when it comes to optimizing gut health.
1020
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:33.280
Yeah, I hope so too.
1021
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.400
And the fact is that, you know, not all carbs are equal.
1022
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.160
And so the carbs from your processed pasta
1023
00:38:39.160 --> 00:38:41.680
are not the same as carbs from a sweet potato.
1024
00:38:41.680 --> 00:38:43.880
And so I think that is important.
1025
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.400
And everybody's body is different.
1026
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:46.960
And everything that you've been through
1027
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:50.960
from birth to where you stand now has shaped who you are
1028
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.360
and has shaped your gut microbiome.
1029
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.480
And so, fat diets or extreme diets,
1030
00:38:55.520 --> 00:38:58.200
they might help you in a particular moment,
1031
00:38:58.200 --> 00:39:02.080
but really where you want to get to is being able to have
1032
00:39:02.080 --> 00:39:05.560
the ability to process all different kinds of foods.
1033
00:39:05.560 --> 00:39:07.000
And I always say like, that's the goal.
1034
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.280
The best microbiome is one that can process everything.
1035
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.040
And so if you are really restricted,
1036
00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:16.720
you're going to get into this self-fulfilling prophecy
1037
00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:18.840
of having a more and more restricted gut microbiome.
1038
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.320
And so the more that you can,
1039
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.320
you might need to do that restriction first,
1040
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.480
but the more that you can then try to step out
1041
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.200
and have more and more ability to process
1042
00:39:26.200 --> 00:39:29.560
different kinds of foods, the healthier you're going to be overall.
1043
00:39:29.560 --> 00:39:30.480
That's so interesting.
1044
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.320
I'm thinking about a lot of my client calls.
1045
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.800
The ones who have more variety and diversity
1046
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.560
and what they're eating can go out and have a night
1047
00:39:39.560 --> 00:39:42.040
where they're eating the pizza or the alcohol
1048
00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:44.800
or the chocolate cake and they really bounce back.
1049
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.160
It's the ones that are on these like a really hardcore
1050
00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:48.920
restrictive programs where the second
1051
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.520
they even taste something that's off-planed.
1052
00:39:51.520 --> 00:39:53.720
They're bloated and it sets them off the following day
1053
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.440
and they're really suffering from these symptoms.
1054
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:57.960
So that's a really good point out.
1055
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:58.800
That's right.
1056
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:03.440
I mean, the goal of health in general
1057
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:04.920
and maybe humanity in general,
1058
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.680
but definitely the goal of your microbiome is resilience.
1059
00:40:07.680 --> 00:40:09.320
The goal is resilience.
1060
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:10.440
How many different things can you eat?
1061
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:11.720
How many different things can you go through
1062
00:40:11.720 --> 00:40:13.480
and you are resilient through that?
1063
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.040
That's really what you're trying to get to.
1064
00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:16.560
And I don't know if you remember,
1065
00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:19.280
but there was a time with newborn babies
1066
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:20.880
where there were so many products
1067
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.360
that were designed to keep them away
1068
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.680
from any kind of allergen that could possibly make them up.
1069
00:40:26.680 --> 00:40:29.600
Yeah, and so nurseries were filled with
1070
00:40:29.600 --> 00:40:32.080
all these hypoallergenic things and antiseptic wipes
1071
00:40:32.080 --> 00:40:35.240
and good Lord, don't let the baby get exposed to anything.
1072
00:40:35.240 --> 00:40:39.160
And it turns out that's incredibly harmful to your baby
1073
00:40:39.160 --> 00:40:42.320
because we are meant to be exposed to all of these allergens
1074
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.080
so that we can train our immune system
1075
00:40:44.080 --> 00:40:46.000
on what to be get nervous about
1076
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.240
and what's just part of the earth.
1077
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.120
And I think that that exposure is really important
1078
00:40:51.120 --> 00:40:54.280
and what we've done with these very restrictive diets
1079
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.480
is to do the equivalent of a baby's room
1080
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.680
that has no exposure to any allergens.
1081
00:40:58.680 --> 00:41:00.680
And there might be a moment where you need that
1082
00:41:00.680 --> 00:41:03.400
but really you want to be marching towards resilience.
1083
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:07.120
We've got to move away from this antibacterial sterile nation
1084
00:41:07.120 --> 00:41:08.000
that we've gone into.
1085
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.480
I know obviously after COVID,
1086
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.680
people got freaked out and worried.
1087
00:41:12.680 --> 00:41:14.680
But now if my kids get dirty,
1088
00:41:14.680 --> 00:41:15.800
I'm excited for them.
1089
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.920
Go get dirty if I see a bug in my lettuce that shows up
1090
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:22.040
and I feel amazing.
1091
00:41:22.040 --> 00:41:23.280
It didn't get killed.
1092
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:24.280
I am so happy.
1093
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.440
Yes, if it didn't die, this is probably good for me.
1094
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:28.320
Exactly.
1095
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.000
Yeah, and I think that exposure is important,
1096
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.040
especially for kids.
1097
00:41:31.040 --> 00:41:34.040
If you've got kids, they definitely should be out there playing
1098
00:41:34.040 --> 00:41:36.760
and there was this awesome study that was done
1099
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:41.240
out of Stanford that showed that people who have dogs
1100
00:41:41.240 --> 00:41:43.760
have more diverse microbiomes and people who don't.
1101
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.400
And I love that study because I'm a huge dog person.
1102
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.000
But it just dogs are out there.
1103
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.440
They're, they're, you know,
1104
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.040
adventuring, they're in the dirt,
1105
00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:51.920
they're hanging out with other dogs.
1106
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.120
They're bringing all this stuff back
1107
00:41:53.120 --> 00:41:55.720
and it's actually really good for you to hug your dog
1108
00:41:55.720 --> 00:41:57.240
and have your dog jump on the couch
1109
00:41:57.240 --> 00:41:59.000
and you all this stuff is really healthy
1110
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.600
for kids through adults.
1111
00:42:00.600 --> 00:42:01.920
Get resilient.
1112
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.760
Get resilient.
1113
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.000
Get dirty.
1114
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.440
All right, let's shift lanes a little bit.
1115
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.360
Let's put the spotlight now on acrimencia.
1116
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.760
So you called acrimencia a keystone strain probiotic.
1117
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:14.760
But there's some people through testing
1118
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.040
who don't have any acrimencia
1119
00:42:17.040 --> 00:42:18.480
or some people who don't have access
1120
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:19.760
to building acrimencia.
1121
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.560
Can you tell us a little bit about this superhero
1122
00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:23.400
for the gut?
1123
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.640
Yeah, this is a strain that we haven't known about
1124
00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:28.760
for very long, which is amazing
1125
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.560
because it plays two really important fundamental roles
1126
00:42:32.560 --> 00:42:35.400
that have been discovered over the last 20 years.
1127
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.320
The first thing is that it is the only strain
1128
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.840
that we know that can directly repair your gut lining.
1129
00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.560
And so, and I'll talk about the two things first
1130
00:42:45.560 --> 00:42:46.760
and then we'll get into the details of it.
1131
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:47.600
It's the only strain we know
1132
00:42:47.600 --> 00:42:49.600
that can directly repair your gut lining
1133
00:42:49.600 --> 00:42:51.320
and the muse when they're under gut lining.
1134
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.360
And then the second thing is that it's only one
1135
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.040
of two strains that we know of
1136
00:42:55.040 --> 00:42:57.600
that can directly stimulate GLP1.
1137
00:42:57.600 --> 00:43:01.200
So that's about digestion and your structural lining
1138
00:43:01.200 --> 00:43:02.760
and it's about metabolism.
1139
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.400
So in the structural lining one,
1140
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:09.480
I think about our gut like a wooden fence.
1141
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:12.240
And so I have a wooden fence in my backyard.
1142
00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:14.400
And when we first moved into the house,
1143
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.600
it has all these wooden planks held together by GLU
1144
00:43:16.600 --> 00:43:19.080
was resilient and strong and amazing.
1145
00:43:19.080 --> 00:43:21.080
Kept my neighbors from knowing what we were doing,
1146
00:43:21.080 --> 00:43:23.680
kept me from knowing what my neighbors were doing.
1147
00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:27.480
But over time, through wear and tear and just aging,
1148
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.240
the GLU can start to thin a plank and fall
1149
00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:31.840
and now you've got a leaky fence.
1150
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.360
Your gut lining is exactly the same structurally.
1151
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.800
You have these epithelial cells, those are your planks,
1152
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:40.320
and you have this GLU called mucin that holds them together.
1153
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.800
And Adromancea's job is it literally lives at the fence
1154
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.080
and it strips away the old GLU when it gets old
1155
00:43:47.080 --> 00:43:48.200
and it puts up new GLU.
1156
00:43:48.200 --> 00:43:50.880
So it is making sure that your fence is strong.
1157
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.000
And what happens when you don't have a strong gut lining
1158
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:56.760
and a strong fence is that similar to your actual fence,
1159
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.080
you can have these leaks.
1160
00:43:59.080 --> 00:44:01.480
And so now what that means is all the things
1161
00:44:01.600 --> 00:44:03.080
that are supposed to be in your gut microbiome
1162
00:44:03.080 --> 00:44:04.720
are leaking into your bloodstream.
1163
00:44:04.720 --> 00:44:06.160
And all the things in your bloodstream
1164
00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:08.280
can be leaking their way into your microbiome
1165
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:11.760
and so you can get these bacterial pathogens.
1166
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:13.800
You can get this heightened inflammatory immune response.
1167
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.520
So if you are low or missing Adromancea,
1168
00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:18.920
you don't have the guy who's there
1169
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.200
making sure your planks have GLU on them.
1170
00:44:21.200 --> 00:44:23.040
So that's the number one fundamental thing
1171
00:44:23.040 --> 00:44:24.440
that's made it a keystone strain.
1172
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:25.600
And the second thing as I said,
1173
00:44:25.600 --> 00:44:27.480
it's only one of two strains that we know
1174
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.120
can stimulate GLP1.
1175
00:44:29.120 --> 00:44:31.760
So when you eat food, it signals to your body.
1176
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:32.600
We just ate food.
1177
00:44:32.600 --> 00:44:35.040
Let's start increasing the amount of GLP1 that we have.
1178
00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:37.040
And when you don't have acrimancea
1179
00:44:37.040 --> 00:44:39.440
and you don't have that GLP1 stimulation,
1180
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.920
your body isn't processing all the sugars you just ate.
1181
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.400
And your body isn't signaling to your brain that you're full.
1182
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:45.720
And so you get these weird cravings
1183
00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:47.600
for weird foods at weird times.
1184
00:44:47.600 --> 00:44:50.720
Your system is basically deregulated.
1185
00:44:50.720 --> 00:44:54.400
And so that's why acrimancea is such an important strain.
1186
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:56.520
Amazing analogy.
1187
00:44:56.520 --> 00:44:57.520
That was great.
1188
00:44:57.520 --> 00:44:59.120
And so this is the tight junctions
1189
00:44:59.120 --> 00:45:01.360
within the gut that we keep hearing around about, right?
1190
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:02.120
Exactly.
1191
00:45:02.120 --> 00:45:05.040
And do you think it's a modern day issue
1192
00:45:05.040 --> 00:45:07.400
that we're having more issues around leaky gut
1193
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:10.240
now more than ever?
1194
00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:12.040
And is it possible then knowing this?
1195
00:45:12.040 --> 00:45:16.000
Can we prevent a gut from getting leaky
1196
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.600
or like the loosening of the fence as we age
1197
00:45:18.600 --> 00:45:19.560
as we get older?
1198
00:45:19.560 --> 00:45:20.920
Is it inevitable?
1199
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.200
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know,
1200
00:45:22.200 --> 00:45:23.480
is it getting worse over time?
1201
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.720
It feels like it's getting worse over time.
1202
00:45:25.720 --> 00:45:27.480
There's definitely more reporting of it over time.
1203
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.360
So maybe more people are starting to realize
1204
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:30.360
that this is an issue.
1205
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:31.200
Yeah, we're studying it now.
1206
00:45:31.200 --> 00:45:32.440
Yeah, so we're studying it now
1207
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:33.600
and we're giving names to it
1208
00:45:33.600 --> 00:45:35.320
and looking at what the causes are of it
1209
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.960
and how to repair it.
1210
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.200
And I think that one of the really interesting things
1211
00:45:40.200 --> 00:45:43.800
about acrimancea is it has never been found
1212
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.280
at any food or beverage.
1213
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.000
And that's people are looking for it.
1214
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:48.840
Like where is it?
1215
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:49.680
Where can I get it?
1216
00:45:49.680 --> 00:45:50.520
Or can I get it?
1217
00:45:50.520 --> 00:45:52.840
And that's not to say it'll never be found on anything.
1218
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.320
But to date, no one has found it
1219
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.800
at any food or beverage except for one place.
1220
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.360
And that is mother's breast milk.
1221
00:45:58.360 --> 00:45:59.120
Wow.
1222
00:45:59.120 --> 00:46:02.240
And so the current thesis is you get it from your mother
1223
00:46:02.240 --> 00:46:03.360
and then you spend the rest of your life
1224
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:04.840
trying not to lose it.
1225
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:05.880
Oh my gosh.
1226
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:07.120
Okay.
1227
00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:09.960
I'm saying, oh my gosh, because like the human body
1228
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:11.360
is so intelligent.
1229
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:12.360
It's crazy.
1230
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.880
The more they hear about these studies,
1231
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.800
just like we are walking, talking miracles,
1232
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:19.840
we have to understand this about ourselves.
1233
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:20.840
So with that said then,
1234
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:23.000
are people that are low in acrimancea
1235
00:46:23.080 --> 00:46:26.880
or are they the people who didn't have breast milk?
1236
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.000
Why are we seeing so many people with low acrimancea?
1237
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.720
Yeah, there's a variety of reasons
1238
00:46:30.720 --> 00:46:32.280
that you might have lost your acrimancea.
1239
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.320
You know, one is that maybe you weren't breastfed
1240
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:36.760
or I'll just do a little sidebar here.
1241
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.600
I, my first daughter was born two months prematurely
1242
00:46:40.600 --> 00:46:44.720
and her jaw strength because she was so early.
1243
00:46:44.720 --> 00:46:46.800
She just never got those jaw strengths.
1244
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:48.400
It'd be able to nurse.
1245
00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:51.280
Every drop of breast milk that kid got, I pumped.
1246
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:55.360
And we, and many moms do this.
1247
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.560
You, you do pumping and excess
1248
00:46:57.560 --> 00:46:58.920
and then you stored in your freezer
1249
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.040
and then that way maybe another person
1250
00:47:01.040 --> 00:47:02.920
can help feed the baby or, you know,
1251
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:04.200
at the moment in which you need to feed,
1252
00:47:04.200 --> 00:47:06.720
you, you've got it sort of stored there.
1253
00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:09.800
And if you ever stored breast milk in the freezer,
1254
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:10.880
you know that you have to warm it up
1255
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:12.400
before you give it to the babies forever.
1256
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.240
Golden milk.
1257
00:47:13.240 --> 00:47:14.480
And it takes forever.
1258
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.120
And there are these devices that you can put on super high
1259
00:47:17.120 --> 00:47:18.920
and like heat it up faster and faster.
1260
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:20.880
And I was definitely an impatient mom.
1261
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.000
And I always put that thing on high.
1262
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:24.200
Like the highest it would go
1263
00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:25.760
and I threw the pack of breast milk in there
1264
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.800
and was like, thought, thought, thought, let's get there.
1265
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.200
And what I'm realizing now,
1266
00:47:30.200 --> 00:47:31.440
the advice that I would give to anyone
1267
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:36.000
who's doing that now is try to figure out a system
1268
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.720
in which you can have it not thought at high temperature
1269
00:47:39.720 --> 00:47:41.600
because when you go to the really high temperatures,
1270
00:47:41.600 --> 00:47:43.560
you're actually denaturing a lot of the proteins
1271
00:47:43.560 --> 00:47:45.080
that are probably really important for the baby
1272
00:47:45.080 --> 00:47:47.320
and you're probably killing the bacterial strains.
1273
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.480
Like acromance would be killed at a high temperature.
1274
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:50.480
Just the cooking.
1275
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:51.480
You're just cooking.
1276
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.400
Yeah, we're cooking too high, yeah, exactly.
1277
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.200
And so I think then you could start
1278
00:47:57.200 --> 00:47:59.080
to get back to the actual question though.
1279
00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:00.600
It could be because you didn't get breastfed.
1280
00:48:00.600 --> 00:48:01.600
It could be because you got breastfed.
1281
00:48:01.600 --> 00:48:03.960
You had an impatient mother who was killing all the acromance
1282
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:05.120
before it got to you.
1283
00:48:05.120 --> 00:48:07.840
But we also know that you lose acromancea
1284
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.280
when you go on antibiotics,
1285
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.160
which almost everybody has been at least one antibiotic.
1286
00:48:12.160 --> 00:48:15.120
We know that as we age, we start to lose acromancea.
1287
00:48:15.120 --> 00:48:16.800
We know when our circadian rhythm changes
1288
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.240
and we travel and day becomes night and night becomes day,
1289
00:48:19.240 --> 00:48:20.840
we lose our acromancea.
1290
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:24.000
We know that through other kind of just general aging processes
1291
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:25.640
and menopause, we lose acromancea.
1292
00:48:25.640 --> 00:48:28.680
And so, and we know we go through periods of intense stress.
1293
00:48:28.680 --> 00:48:29.880
We lose acromancea.
1294
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.240
So there are a lot of things that are just part of being a human
1295
00:48:33.240 --> 00:48:34.360
that can cause you to lose it.
1296
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.120
And I think the important thing is maybe not harping on,
1297
00:48:38.120 --> 00:48:40.480
oh man, what do I do wrong that caused me to lose it?
1298
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.280
But knowing that you can actually replenish it
1299
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.440
through direct supplementation of acromancea
1300
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.520
and also through foods and prebiotics
1301
00:48:47.520 --> 00:48:50.000
that feed that acromancea, you can get it back
1302
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:51.800
and then you can create a future for yourself
1303
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.880
that is much more shiny than what you've been dealing
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00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.120
with in the past.
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00:48:55.120 --> 00:48:57.160
So again, you're showing us evidence of,
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00:48:57.160 --> 00:49:00.040
despite your best efforts, whether it's to lose weight
1307
00:49:00.040 --> 00:49:02.200
or boost your energy or anything,
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00:49:02.200 --> 00:49:04.800
just through the kind of assaults of modern life
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00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.240
or through travel or just having a busy lifestyle,
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00:49:07.240 --> 00:49:08.840
you could become deficient.
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00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:11.240
And that could be causing a lot of your suffering
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00:49:11.240 --> 00:49:12.720
or even your weakening.
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00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:14.160
And I want to really acknowledge you
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00:49:14.160 --> 00:49:18.160
and kind of celebrate pendulum on addressing this.
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00:49:18.160 --> 00:49:19.400
Can you talk to us about the products
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00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.600
and that you have that help people
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00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:23.840
rebuild acromancea within their system?
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00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.160
Yes, well, when we first started the company,
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00:49:26.160 --> 00:49:29.360
this was about a dozen years ago, literally.
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00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:35.360
We were really looking for new ways to tackle gut health.
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00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.560
And we were looking for this idea of beyond digestion,
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00:49:38.560 --> 00:49:41.560
this belief that your microbiome is tied to all your systems
1323
00:49:41.560 --> 00:49:45.200
and that you could make products that went beyond digestion.
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00:49:45.200 --> 00:49:48.320
Can we make probiotics that really capitalize on
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00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.320
all the things that the microbiome can do?
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00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.880
And we found these strains that nobody else had.
1327
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.520
And in fact, when we discovered them,
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00:49:55.520 --> 00:49:57.400
we really wanted to just be able to buy them
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00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.000
and package them up and give them to people
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00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.440
to see if it helped people.
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00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:03.600
And what we found was that nobody was manufacturing them.
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00:50:03.600 --> 00:50:05.920
And moreover, when we asked people to manufacture them,
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00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.520
they were giving us back dead strains.
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00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:10.640
So we had to figure out how to manufacture the strains.
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00:50:10.640 --> 00:50:12.160
And then we had to figure out how to encapsulate them
1336
00:50:12.160 --> 00:50:14.160
so that they made their way to the gut microbiome.
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00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:16.400
And then we had to run preclinical and clinical tests
1338
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.600
to see did they actually deliver on the promise
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00:50:18.600 --> 00:50:20.760
of improving somebody's health?
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00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:25.200
And so our first product, Pendulum Glucose Control,
1341
00:50:25.200 --> 00:50:28.160
our flagship product was this compilation
1342
00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:30.200
of this formulation of five strains,
1343
00:50:30.200 --> 00:50:32.240
only one of which was even on the market,
1344
00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:34.320
the other four of which we had to figure out how to manufacture
1345
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.760
and put together and deliver.
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00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.720
But I would say the most kind of,
1347
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.160
one of the biggest things that I'm grateful for
1348
00:50:43.160 --> 00:50:47.000
is that when we kind of gave these to people,
1349
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:48.840
we discovered that they really could help people.
1350
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.080
And this is a publication in BMJ
1351
00:50:51.080 --> 00:50:53.280
that shows in a placebo control double blind
1352
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.960
and randomized trial that for people with diabetes,
1353
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:57.880
they could simply take this pill
1354
00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:59.440
that gave them back these microbes
1355
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.640
and their A1C and their blood glucose spikes
1356
00:51:01.640 --> 00:51:04.560
could be repaired as well as a drug,
1357
00:51:04.560 --> 00:51:06.040
but with this natural product.
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00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:10.240
Could lower your A1C and lower your blood glucose spikes
1359
00:51:10.240 --> 00:51:11.640
through this microbiome intervention?
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00:51:11.640 --> 00:51:12.720
That was huge.
1361
00:51:12.720 --> 00:51:14.160
Without making any other changes.
1362
00:51:14.160 --> 00:51:15.920
Without making, in fact, we asked people
1363
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.600
to not make any other changes.
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00:51:17.600 --> 00:51:20.800
No behavioral changes, no dietary changes,
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00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:25.160
just simply introduce these microbiome strains to your body.
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00:51:25.160 --> 00:51:27.760
And it could lower A1C and it could lower blood glucose spikes.
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00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.160
And we now know it can lower food cravings,
1368
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:33.360
all the things associated with GLP1, it can increase energy.
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00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:35.800
And so all of our products are really derived
1370
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.400
from digestion plus metabolism.
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00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:44.400
And it has been, look, to be totally honest,
1372
00:51:44.720 --> 00:51:46.640
if I had known how hard it was going to be,
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00:51:46.640 --> 00:51:48.080
I would probably wouldn't have done it.
1374
00:51:48.080 --> 00:51:49.080
You're still here.
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00:51:49.080 --> 00:51:51.920
Yes, we just kind of took each step as it came
1376
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.440
and just moved forward.
1377
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:57.160
And now we have these really unique products on the market
1378
00:51:57.160 --> 00:51:59.200
and these amazing stories from people
1379
00:51:59.200 --> 00:52:00.120
on how much they've helped.
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00:52:00.120 --> 00:52:02.520
And you're kind of one of those amazing people
1381
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:04.800
who know so much about the space.
1382
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:06.520
And I would love to hear from you.
1383
00:52:06.520 --> 00:52:08.760
What you thought when you first learned about pendulum
1384
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.800
and acromance and all these strains.
1385
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:12.920
Yeah, I've always so hesitant because obviously,
1386
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.000
I'm since so much product.
1387
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.000
And a lot of companies will put these kind of star statements
1388
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.840
on the front of their box.
1389
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.680
And we're told to trust that.
1390
00:52:23.680 --> 00:52:26.320
But when I look and hear stories about you
1391
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.600
and as I said, excited to speak with you today,
1392
00:52:29.600 --> 00:52:31.280
I think it's through storytelling
1393
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.520
and especially through the eyes of a scientist
1394
00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:35.960
who can talk about these third-party tests
1395
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:38.000
that they've done after working on a product
1396
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:40.760
for so many years and looking at the data
1397
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.840
and what the impact has been.
1398
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.160
It's the storytelling and the data
1399
00:52:45.160 --> 00:52:47.360
that you make available to the public,
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00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:49.960
to your clients.
1401
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:51.320
That is so important.
1402
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.960
We have to become educated consumers.
1403
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.880
And it's that reason that pendulum has always been
1404
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.400
on my client protocols.
1405
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.680
And I can definitely say we're talking before the show
1406
00:53:00.680 --> 00:53:03.920
with glucose control, taking that daily.
1407
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:08.000
I was always the girl who would always have a sweet tooth.
1408
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.000
Salty then sweet, I would be salty and sweet, right?
1409
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:12.560
One and the other, every single night.
1410
00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:15.320
But in the past, especially at the past four weeks,
1411
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:18.040
and I've been very consistent with glucose control
1412
00:53:18.040 --> 00:53:22.080
over the past two months or so, I don't crave anything.
1413
00:53:22.080 --> 00:53:23.720
Like not even a square of dark chocolate,
1414
00:53:23.720 --> 00:53:25.200
which I'll give myself.
1415
00:53:25.200 --> 00:53:27.440
I just I'm not having any sugar cravings.
1416
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:28.640
So that's fascinating.
1417
00:53:28.640 --> 00:53:31.120
And I guess the add on question to that is,
1418
00:53:31.120 --> 00:53:33.920
when I hear about a product that seems too good to be true.
1419
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:38.200
So optimizing A-Wincy markers, lowering inflammation,
1420
00:53:38.200 --> 00:53:42.840
better insulin sensitivity, improve gut barrier integrity.
1421
00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:45.160
Do we stay on this long term?
1422
00:53:45.160 --> 00:53:47.920
Do you become a lifer to this product?
1423
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.400
I think it's an important question.
1424
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.720
And remember when we were talking about,
1425
00:53:53.720 --> 00:53:56.520
what do you look for in a good product,
1426
00:53:56.520 --> 00:53:59.160
sort of the acid resistant, the delayed release,
1427
00:53:59.160 --> 00:54:00.840
and the live probiotics?
1428
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.840
And the reason the live proletics are so important
1429
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.040
is because if you can get the supplementation
1430
00:54:07.040 --> 00:54:09.080
and then you can modify your diet
1431
00:54:09.080 --> 00:54:11.160
so that you're feeding those strains,
1432
00:54:11.160 --> 00:54:13.000
they have to be alive for you to be able to feed them,
1433
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:14.960
you can get colonization of the strains.
1434
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.760
And so that means that you don't have to be on the pills forever.
1435
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.640
Hopefully none of my investors are listening to this.
1436
00:54:20.640 --> 00:54:22.080
But you don't have to be on the pills forever.
1437
00:54:22.080 --> 00:54:24.720
And really the goal is, as I said, the goal is resilience.
1438
00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:27.680
And so there might be moments where you're depleted
1439
00:54:27.680 --> 00:54:30.600
and you go on this supplementation for, let's say, three months.
1440
00:54:30.600 --> 00:54:33.160
And then you've got them and you're eating foods
1441
00:54:33.160 --> 00:54:34.400
that are really supplementing them.
1442
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:35.960
Then let's say you have to go on an antibiotic
1443
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.520
or you go through a period of intense stress.
1444
00:54:37.520 --> 00:54:39.240
We can't avoid the life.
1445
00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:41.480
And then you might get depleted again and go back on them.
1446
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:45.160
And so I think there is a regimen in which you can imagine,
1447
00:54:45.160 --> 00:54:46.640
you're not on them for the rest of your life,
1448
00:54:46.640 --> 00:54:49.600
but there'll be these moments where you just need to,
1449
00:54:49.600 --> 00:54:51.000
it's like there are these moments
1450
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.760
where you just have to go to the spa and replenish and refresh.
1451
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:54.600
And then you can come back out
1452
00:54:54.600 --> 00:54:56.120
and you're more resilient to the world.
1453
00:54:56.120 --> 00:54:57.600
It's like that with your gut microbiome.
1454
00:54:57.600 --> 00:54:59.400
And so if you can get these to colonize,
1455
00:55:00.600 --> 00:55:01.440
that's really the goal.
1456
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.320
And that's why you want to look for live probiotics
1457
00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:05.560
so that you can actually get colonization.
1458
00:55:05.560 --> 00:55:08.800
And for some people it's harder than for others
1459
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:10.640
because there are things about your genetics
1460
00:55:10.640 --> 00:55:11.960
or things about your lifestyle
1461
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:13.440
or things that are out of your control
1462
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:17.200
that might always push your microbiome to be depleted in these.
1463
00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:19.280
But you might be someone that can take them for a month
1464
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.400
and you're good to go.
1465
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.080
So it really does depend on the person.
1466
00:55:22.080 --> 00:55:25.000
But the goal is not for us as a company.
1467
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:26.600
Our mission has always been to help millions
1468
00:55:26.600 --> 00:55:28.600
of people improve their health.
1469
00:55:28.600 --> 00:55:30.560
And we're just trying to get people boost to that.
1470
00:55:30.560 --> 00:55:32.080
You don't have to be on these products
1471
00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:32.960
for the rest of your life.
1472
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.280
You can figure out how to get colonization.
1473
00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.080
I love that answer and thank you for that.
1474
00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:39.280
The way that I work with my clients on supplementation
1475
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.040
is that you shouldn't have to be on supplements forever.
1476
00:55:42.040 --> 00:55:43.760
But when it comes to the gut microbiome
1477
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.160
and knowing just about existing in our modern world
1478
00:55:46.160 --> 00:55:48.840
and everything that's depleting the gut microbiome
1479
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.760
with something like especially access to acromance, yeah?
1480
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.640
These are things that you want to cycle into your diet.
1481
00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:56.560
Cycle into your supplement routine.
1482
00:55:56.560 --> 00:55:58.960
Stay on it for three months and then take a month off.
1483
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:00.160
And then maybe you come back on it.
1484
00:56:00.160 --> 00:56:01.560
Maybe you're going through a time of stress
1485
00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:03.400
or a time of increased travel
1486
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.280
where you really want to consider this.
1487
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.440
But I really think that these are hero products
1488
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.840
that people should have as a baseline
1489
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.920
for their gut microbiome and their digestion moving forward.
1490
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:14.280
Absolutely, absolutely.
1491
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.880
And I do think that when you go on them,
1492
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:19.840
like this is my daily routine,
1493
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.680
is that I take my pendulum glucose control in the morning.
1494
00:56:23.680 --> 00:56:27.520
And there's also sort of a thing
1495
00:56:27.520 --> 00:56:30.160
that you can feel really good about what you're doing for your body.
1496
00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:32.800
So, I mean, for me, when I take these in the morning,
1497
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.360
I know every morning is a new opportunity to reset your day,
1498
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:39.000
to reset your intentions, to reset your metabolism.
1499
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.080
And so what you're doing is you're giving your body,
1500
00:56:41.080 --> 00:56:43.280
you're starting today with something really great for it.
1501
00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:44.600
And then you're on your way through the day,
1502
00:56:44.600 --> 00:56:46.880
hopefully avoiding things that are bad for you,
1503
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:48.080
but trying your best.
1504
00:56:48.120 --> 00:56:50.000
And I think that that's really, for me,
1505
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.720
the daily routine of having this, you know,
1506
00:56:52.720 --> 00:56:55.200
first thing microbiome intervention
1507
00:56:55.200 --> 00:56:57.640
is really also setting an intention.
1508
00:56:57.640 --> 00:57:00.000
And you've also coupled that with all of the other things
1509
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.080
that are good for your microbiome.
1510
00:57:01.080 --> 00:57:03.720
Like we started this conversation off with your intention
1511
00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:05.840
for the day and how you're setting your mood,
1512
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.560
with taking in high fiber foods,
1513
00:57:07.560 --> 00:57:09.800
with getting clarity and how you want to feel.
1514
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.320
And then of course, using supplementation
1515
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:13.400
where it can be impactful.
1516
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.120
So for somebody new to pendulum,
1517
00:57:15.120 --> 00:57:15.960
where do they start?
1518
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:17.880
You've got an incredible polyphenol product,
1519
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:21.320
also metabolic function product, also.
1520
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:22.160
Where does someone start?
1521
00:57:22.160 --> 00:57:24.840
And is there timing for different strains of bacteria
1522
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:26.640
that they should be interested in?
1523
00:57:26.640 --> 00:57:30.000
Yeah, I think starting to understand,
1524
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:31.640
you know, what product is it right for you?
1525
00:57:31.640 --> 00:57:33.240
It really is about, you know,
1526
00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:35.080
what are you trying to accomplish?
1527
00:57:35.080 --> 00:57:37.640
So I think if you really are saying,
1528
00:57:37.640 --> 00:57:40.080
I want to get the most,
1529
00:57:40.080 --> 00:57:42.560
I want to get the best digestion,
1530
00:57:42.560 --> 00:57:44.560
the most metabolism that I can get,
1531
00:57:44.560 --> 00:57:46.440
you know, metabolic benefits that I can get.
1532
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.360
A pendulum glucose control is the product
1533
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:52.600
that has all of the strains at the highest dose possible.
1534
00:57:52.600 --> 00:57:53.640
And that's what I would start with.
1535
00:57:53.640 --> 00:57:55.880
And I would give that 90 days
1536
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:57.960
and see if you feel an improvement.
1537
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.280
If you do, and you don't want to stay on that product forever,
1538
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:01.760
you can either take a break from it
1539
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.640
or you can move down to pendulum metabolic daily.
1540
00:58:04.640 --> 00:58:06.320
That is literally the same strains,
1541
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.640
but at a lower dose.
1542
00:58:07.640 --> 00:58:10.280
And so that's really, and to be totally frank,
1543
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.000
it's more affordable because it isn't lower dose,
1544
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:13.240
it costs less to make.
1545
00:58:13.240 --> 00:58:16.560
And so, you know, we pass it on to the customer.
1546
00:58:16.560 --> 00:58:21.560
And so that can be more of a sustain kind of a product.
1547
00:58:21.640 --> 00:58:24.600
If you are working with a practitioner
1548
00:58:24.600 --> 00:58:26.160
and you are low in acromansia
1549
00:58:26.160 --> 00:58:27.400
and you're really just trying to target,
1550
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:28.960
I just want acromansia,
1551
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.880
you can buy the single strain acromansia.
1552
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:32.960
Acromansia is in metabolic daily
1553
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.440
and in pendulum glucose control
1554
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.120
along with the other strains.
1555
00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:38.200
But if you're really doing a targeted approach
1556
00:58:38.200 --> 00:58:40.360
and you're just trying to supplement your acromansia,
1557
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:41.800
you can buy the single strain.
1558
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:47.360
I do recommend people not take a gut microbiome test
1559
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:48.520
and try to interpret it on your own
1560
00:58:48.520 --> 00:58:49.600
and then go on acromansia.
1561
00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:52.600
I think it's really helpful to be working with a practitioner
1562
00:58:52.600 --> 00:58:54.560
who knows your whole system
1563
00:58:54.560 --> 00:58:56.480
because for many people, you know,
1564
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.040
that single strain alone isn't quite enough
1565
00:58:59.040 --> 00:59:01.200
and you really want to be guided with a professional here.
1566
00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:02.200
Yeah, absolutely.
1567
00:59:02.200 --> 00:59:03.400
That's a good call out.
1568
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.640
And what about taking with food or empty stomach?
1569
00:59:06.640 --> 00:59:09.400
That really just depends on the sensitive immune or stomach.
1570
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:12.840
Some people can't take any capsules on an empty stomach
1571
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:14.840
because there's something about that
1572
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:16.920
that's upsetting to their stomach.
1573
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.560
But otherwise, you know, you can take it,
1574
00:59:19.560 --> 00:59:22.000
the more important thing is when can you remember to take it?
1575
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.640
When can it fit into your routine so that you remember?
1576
00:59:24.640 --> 00:59:26.120
Because that's probably the hardest thing to do.
1577
00:59:26.120 --> 00:59:28.440
But if you're pretty resilient stomach,
1578
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.080
you can take it on an empty stomach.
1579
00:59:31.400 --> 00:59:34.960
One thing that sometimes people feel like is helpful
1580
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:36.760
is taking it with food
1581
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:39.360
because that can reduce the acidity of your stomach.
1582
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:41.160
So when you eat, it reduces the acidity of your stomach.
1583
00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:43.800
But these are assurances in capsules, so you're fine.
1584
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.240
Yeah, that's a good call out though.
1585
00:59:45.240 --> 00:59:46.960
I think with anyone with a supplement protocol,
1586
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.560
that could actually be just so.
1587
00:59:48.560 --> 00:59:50.000
Their beauty could be beneficial for them
1588
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.240
is to consider habit stacking.
1589
00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:54.680
You know, a lot of people forget taking them at my house.
1590
00:59:54.680 --> 00:59:56.600
They leave them out on the counter.
1591
00:59:56.600 --> 00:59:57.720
I know that every single morning
1592
00:59:57.720 --> 00:59:58.960
when I have having my breakfast,
1593
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:00.200
it's just something that I do
1594
01:00:00.200 --> 01:00:01.040
and that way, don't forget it.
1595
01:00:01.040 --> 01:00:02.960
It becomes part of my ritual every day.
1596
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.400
Yeah, it's all the little light packs
1597
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.720
that help you get through this stuff.
1598
01:00:05.720 --> 01:00:07.840
And so every morning I have coffee
1599
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.160
and I grab the milk from the refrigerator
1600
01:00:10.160 --> 01:00:12.600
and I literally have my glucose controls sitting next to it.
1601
01:00:12.600 --> 01:00:15.320
So the milk and the product come hand in hand
1602
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:16.640
and I have it with my morning coffee.
1603
01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:18.400
And I think any little hacks you can do
1604
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.840
is that you'll have to remember.
1605
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.400
I don't have to remember to put milk on my coffee.
1606
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:22.400
I'm gonna do it.
1607
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:23.760
But then having all the other stuff
1608
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.600
that I need right there is helpful.
1609
01:00:25.600 --> 01:00:27.040
Absolutely.
1610
01:00:27.040 --> 01:00:28.160
Right, I know a lot of listeners
1611
01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:29.640
are gonna want us to go back to this.
1612
01:00:29.640 --> 01:00:31.120
She'll have you one connection.
1613
01:00:31.120 --> 01:00:31.960
Okay.
1614
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:35.440
All right, so with these peptides today,
1615
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.080
and now even, you know, microdosing ozumbic
1616
01:00:38.080 --> 01:00:39.400
and stuff like that,
1617
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:41.560
people are just desperate for a solution, right?
1618
01:00:41.560 --> 01:00:43.200
And hearing you today is just,
1619
01:00:43.200 --> 01:00:45.840
oh, my gut microbiome is off.
1620
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.200
I'm deficient of these bacteria
1621
01:00:48.200 --> 01:00:51.960
that could actually help me lose weight on its own, right?
1622
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.160
Can you just talk a little bit deeper around
1623
01:00:54.160 --> 01:00:57.040
if I'm gonna start taking something like acrimansia daily
1624
01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:58.120
through your studies,
1625
01:00:58.120 --> 01:01:01.480
how soon could I expect to see your feel a difference?
1626
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.520
And should people be considering this
1627
01:01:03.560 --> 01:01:06.520
if they're considering going on ozumbic?
1628
01:01:06.520 --> 01:01:09.360
Yeah, well, the first thing is,
1629
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.600
if you go to our website, pendulumlife.com,
1630
01:01:11.600 --> 01:01:15.160
you'll see that we don't talk about weight loss,
1631
01:01:15.160 --> 01:01:17.840
and that is a very deliberate thing.
1632
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:18.840
Okay.
1633
01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:23.640
And it's because I really don't fundamentally think
1634
01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:26.320
that people should be looking at weight loss as the goal.
1635
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.400
Look, if you lost five pounds,
1636
01:01:29.560 --> 01:01:31.360
you know, we may go put it a different way,
1637
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:33.760
if you could convert five pounds of fat to five pounds of muscle,
1638
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.800
you won, you lost a single pound,
1639
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.400
but you've won in health and better health.
1640
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.160
And so I think that's really what we're gonna be focused on.
1641
01:01:41.160 --> 01:01:44.520
And when we talk about your body's natural GLP1,
1642
01:01:44.520 --> 01:01:47.080
and can you go have these products that are gonna help stimulate
1643
01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:48.880
your body's natural GLP1,
1644
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.600
the goal, the thing to look out for is the reduced cravings
1645
01:01:52.600 --> 01:01:54.520
of foods that you know you don't need.
1646
01:01:54.520 --> 01:01:56.160
Everybody knows the foods that we don't need.
1647
01:01:56.160 --> 01:01:57.640
And so like the chocolates,
1648
01:01:57.640 --> 01:02:00.840
and then my guilty pleasure is like potato chips.
1649
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.680
And so, you know, if you can reduce the cravings of those foods
1650
01:02:04.680 --> 01:02:06.680
and reduce the intake of those foods,
1651
01:02:06.680 --> 01:02:08.880
that's actually what we really want people to be focused on
1652
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:10.880
because that gets you into the better nutrition
1653
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:12.360
and the better cycle of health.
1654
01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:15.720
So I'll just do that little, so box.
1655
01:02:15.720 --> 01:02:17.240
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
1656
01:02:17.240 --> 01:02:20.880
And so I think what many practitioners,
1657
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:22.880
I'll talk about what the practitioners are doing
1658
01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:26.400
because I think they've kind of had to deal with
1659
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:28.480
the complexities of these different drugs
1660
01:02:28.520 --> 01:02:31.560
and the desire for people to have this immediate weight loss.
1661
01:02:31.560 --> 01:02:33.120
Yeah.
1662
01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:37.160
So what we've learned is that there are people
1663
01:02:37.160 --> 01:02:39.160
who are intolerant to the GLP1 drugs,
1664
01:02:39.160 --> 01:02:40.480
and there are people who don't want to go
1665
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:41.880
on any kind of pharmaceutical.
1666
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:44.480
For them, pendulum glucose control or metabolic daily,
1667
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:45.880
these are great products for them
1668
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:48.920
to help stimulate their body's natural GLP1.
1669
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.160
For people who want to be on the drugs
1670
01:02:51.160 --> 01:02:52.440
that don't want to be on the long term,
1671
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:53.880
and they want to do a step down
1672
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.000
or a reduce the dose of their drugs,
1673
01:02:56.040 --> 01:02:59.280
practitioners are basically pairing the probiotic,
1674
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:01.920
pendulum glucose control or metabolic daily
1675
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.200
alongside the drugs.
1676
01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:05.840
And usually what we've heard is that they start them
1677
01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.440
on the probiotic two months before they reduce the dose
1678
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:11.760
of the drugs or two months before they go off the drugs
1679
01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:14.560
in order to give the strains a chance to colonize.
1680
01:03:14.560 --> 01:03:16.760
And then what they're finding is that people don't have
1681
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.400
such a sharp cliff when they go off or when they reduce.
1682
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.960
And again, this is really pointing towards the cravings
1683
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.400
and which obviously are related to weight,
1684
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.920
but are really getting at kind of fundamental changes
1685
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:30.320
that will be important for health.
1686
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.320
So I think I'm not gonna say nobody should be on the drugs.
1687
01:03:35.560 --> 01:03:36.520
They definitely have benefit.
1688
01:03:36.520 --> 01:03:38.840
And certainly there are people who should be on them.
1689
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.240
But this is a way for you to both take these external drugs
1690
01:03:42.240 --> 01:03:44.280
which are mimicking your body's natural hormone
1691
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.520
and also stimulate your body's natural hormone.
1692
01:03:46.520 --> 01:03:48.120
They work in different ways,
1693
01:03:48.120 --> 01:03:51.840
but they're both great tools to have in your toolbox.
1694
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:52.680
Yeah.
1695
01:03:52.680 --> 01:03:54.880
And if someone is going on the prescription,
1696
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:58.120
work with a practitioner who's really monitoring your levels,
1697
01:03:58.120 --> 01:04:01.400
your micronutrients and how you're feeling,
1698
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.120
especially what we're uncovering around my kidney function.
1699
01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:07.880
And one of my clients who she's become malnutritioned
1700
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.080
because she's become so accustomed to taking in
1701
01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:13.600
so few calories, eating a limited scope of foods.
1702
01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:17.320
She's not getting really any fiber in her diet whatsoever.
1703
01:04:18.040 --> 01:04:23.040
And it's also now fueling into this diet mentality
1704
01:04:23.040 --> 01:04:25.440
of restriction that she's become addicted to, right?
1705
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.680
So getting out of that, it's gonna be a really long road for her.
1706
01:04:27.680 --> 01:04:31.280
So I always just say like if something sounds too good to be true,
1707
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:32.720
I know we all want instant.
1708
01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:34.680
We all want instant.
1709
01:04:34.680 --> 01:04:37.240
But over the past 15 years of doing my work,
1710
01:04:37.240 --> 01:04:38.520
the people who come to me,
1711
01:04:38.520 --> 01:04:39.560
Mona, I want to six back.
1712
01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:40.880
I want to be this number on the scale.
1713
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:42.440
I want to fit into this dress.
1714
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.280
When they focus on healing,
1715
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.440
they get to their goal no matter what.
1716
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:49.360
Obviously I work with some people who they've got to,
1717
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.000
you know, train for a role or something.
1718
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:51.920
They've got to get their fast.
1719
01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.520
We'll do some modifications.
1720
01:04:53.520 --> 01:04:54.360
But it's funny.
1721
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:57.600
It's an incredible thing that happens when you bring your body
1722
01:04:57.600 --> 01:05:00.480
to function at its best back online.
1723
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.360
What happens?
1724
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.760
There's like less of a grip that you have on.
1725
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.120
How hard you have to diet, how hard you have to exercise.
1726
01:05:08.120 --> 01:05:10.640
You notice an improvement of your mood, your energy,
1727
01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:13.880
your sleep, your, it's just, it's full spectrum.
1728
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:14.800
And that's what healing should be.
1729
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.560
It's a full spectrum approach.
1730
01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:17.400
Absolutely.
1731
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:23.000
And I really hope that the practitioner community
1732
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.040
is sort of forced to become more and more holistic thinkers
1733
01:05:26.040 --> 01:05:29.360
because I do think that there's the traditional physicians
1734
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:32.840
who they don't learn anything in school
1735
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.200
about anything except for prescription drugs.
1736
01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:36.160
And that's really a problem.
1737
01:05:36.160 --> 01:05:39.000
They have a deficiency in education.
1738
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:40.680
And I really hope that there's a way
1739
01:05:40.680 --> 01:05:44.240
that we can bring this knowledge into the medical community
1740
01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:46.880
in a more thorough way because right now
1741
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:48.760
you just have these, this small,
1742
01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:51.400
and I would say it's a small group of educated practitioners
1743
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:53.080
who know how to use all the tools.
1744
01:05:53.080 --> 01:05:55.720
And then the vast majority are only really working
1745
01:05:55.720 --> 01:05:57.800
with a sledgehammer.
1746
01:05:57.800 --> 01:05:59.400
Yeah, seeing everything else.
1747
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:00.480
Yeah, that's so true.
1748
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:03.120
Thank you for expanding on that.
1749
01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:06.280
I wanted to dive in with you on just how great I think it is
1750
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.080
that you integrate clinical science,
1751
01:06:08.080 --> 01:06:10.080
but also with ancient wisdom,
1752
01:06:10.080 --> 01:06:13.000
how practices like fermented foods and fasting
1753
01:06:13.040 --> 01:06:15.200
in herbal medicine can really kind of play
1754
01:06:15.200 --> 01:06:17.520
with what we know about the microbiome.
1755
01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:19.640
So one of the questions I get all the time,
1756
01:06:19.640 --> 01:06:20.480
Mona, what do you do?
1757
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:21.600
What do you eat?
1758
01:06:21.600 --> 01:06:23.200
What does the day look like for you
1759
01:06:23.200 --> 01:06:25.480
when you're focusing on everything that you know
1760
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:27.080
about the gut microbiome?
1761
01:06:27.080 --> 01:06:29.160
You know, some key pillars that happened throughout the day?
1762
01:06:29.160 --> 01:06:30.560
Can you talk to us about this?
1763
01:06:30.560 --> 01:06:31.720
Sure.
1764
01:06:31.720 --> 01:06:36.560
Well, I usually don't have anything except for coffee
1765
01:06:36.560 --> 01:06:37.480
in the morning.
1766
01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.360
And that wasn't because I was trying to get into fasting.
1767
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:43.480
I actually, at some point, just stopped being,
1768
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.640
I used to wake up and the first thing I want to do
1769
01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:47.080
is just eat the whole thing.
1770
01:06:47.080 --> 01:06:49.720
Yeah, everything, everything.
1771
01:06:49.720 --> 01:06:51.520
And I kind of would do that.
1772
01:06:51.520 --> 01:06:54.440
And I think over time, my body just sort of naturally
1773
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:56.440
was like, we don't really need that first thing.
1774
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.400
And so I actually don't have anything
1775
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:00.960
but coffee in the morning.
1776
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.640
And it's not until about maybe one or two
1777
01:07:03.640 --> 01:07:05.320
that I start to get hungry.
1778
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.320
And this is, I think, probably the most important thing
1779
01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:11.040
if you're being thoughtful about your gut microbiome,
1780
01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:14.200
your breakfast, whether it's at 6 a.m. or 2 p.m.
1781
01:07:14.200 --> 01:07:18.240
or whenever it is, it literally is the breaking of the fast.
1782
01:07:18.240 --> 01:07:20.480
What you've been doing, all of those hours
1783
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:23.480
when you weren't eating is depleting your gut.
1784
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:25.160
Every single microbe that's sitting in your gut,
1785
01:07:25.160 --> 01:07:26.360
think about like there's always players
1786
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:27.360
sitting in your gut microbiome,
1787
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.480
you depleting all of them of food.
1788
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:33.000
And this is your moment to select who's going to get fed
1789
01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:34.120
and who's not.
1790
01:07:34.120 --> 01:07:36.880
And so don't put candy in as the first thing
1791
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:38.760
that goes into your body for sugary latte.
1792
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:40.240
Or sugary latte.
1793
01:07:40.240 --> 01:07:42.120
Yes, or caramel top.
1794
01:07:42.120 --> 01:07:42.720
Yeah.
1795
01:07:42.720 --> 01:07:45.200
The first thing you put in when you break your fast
1796
01:07:45.200 --> 01:07:47.800
is going to decide what's going to happen
1797
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:48.640
in your gut microbiome.
1798
01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:50.040
And so to the extent that you can start
1799
01:07:50.040 --> 01:07:52.360
with something that's high in fiber polyphenols,
1800
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:56.680
berries, a smoothie, a fruit smoothie,
1801
01:07:56.680 --> 01:08:00.000
a smoothie that's got greens in it, vegetables,
1802
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.000
all of these things, they're going to be,
1803
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:03.520
whatever you eat later on.
1804
01:08:03.520 --> 01:08:05.160
If you're being thoughtful about your gut microbiome,
1805
01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:07.360
that's what you want to break your fast with.
1806
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:09.760
And so when I'm being really good,
1807
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.480
that's what I've got lined up is the first,
1808
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.240
the first food that goes in is high fiber, high polyphenol.
1809
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.320
And then it is about diversity of foods
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and diversity of fibers.
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And so I think as you think about
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all of your meals throughout the day,
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I'm always trying to figure out how do we get more fiber
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in in different ways.
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And that's why my kids think I'm fiber obsessed.
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Everything is about fiber.
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And we're not a family that's anti-protein.
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We definitely consume our protein.
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But I really do think, getting back to what we talk about
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about resilience, it is about the diversity of the food
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that you're eating and what you're exposing your body to.
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And we really avoid processed foods.
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And certainly all of the things that are kind of
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in the middle of the grocery store,
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we kind of don't really do our shopping there.
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So I think that's your gut microbiome is best served
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by the things on the periphery of the grocery store.
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Yeah, I love that you brought that up.
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Yeah, from a young age with my kid,
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I was too maybe I'm becoming fiber obsessed with them.
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I'm gonna start catching on.
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But morning smoothies, our morning smoothies,
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I don't load them with anything I see.
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So they tend to be hotter.
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That's part of an diabetic style of eating.
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So we're not putting out that digestive fire.
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But I'm looking for a variety.
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And when I'm thinking about some of the fruits and veggies
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that you're talking about too,
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fruits and veggies hold a lot of water and hydration,
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which is so essential to our gut function.
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Also, we're not dehydrating the colon completely.
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And a lot of my clients maybe are listening to this as well,
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who's just having coffee after coffee after coffee
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after coffee and depleting that hydration from our system.
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Yeah, might make things a little bit more challenging
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for you also. So.
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Oh, yeah, hydration is such a pillar of good health.
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I mean, that is, I don't know.
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I mean, water bottles are going to be ridiculous sizes
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nowadays, but hydration is really true.
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Hey, tell me about this.
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So a couple of my clients who were just dealing
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with some major gut issues,
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we took our time building out the resilience
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to increasing their fiber intake,
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but I kind of encourage them over time
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to get used to throwing in whatever you have in your kitchen
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or in your fridge,
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whether it was berries or melon
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or different types of greens or sprouts
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and just throwing them into a blender
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and blending them up together.
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And over time, they would get used to taking a more fiber,
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but in their smoothies, they would get up to seven
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or seven to 10 different types of varieties
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of fruits and veggies.
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Awesome. It's so awesome.
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That is great.
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Yeah, and there might be, you know,
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like not everybody loves celery,
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but you throw it into a blender with a bunch of other stuff.
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You don't even know it's in there,
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but you're getting all the benefits of it.
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You got it. Yeah.
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Something else you'll might laugh at.
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I think of you all the time when I put sour crowd out
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at dinner time, I wanted to be the amuse bush.
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Yeah.
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Everyone at the table, my seven and my 10 year old
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are like, what are you doing to us?
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Yeah.
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However, are you focusing on probiotics
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and prebiotics in your foods?
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Well, I think what the foods we really think
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about the prebiotic,
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the foods that are going to feed these strains.
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And, you know, in Asian culture,
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there are a lot of fermented foods
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that are just part of your diet.
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And so we always have fermented foods
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when we have Asian meals.
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And the other thing is spices.
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So spices are really good sources of polyphenols too,
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and they can be really good for your microbiome.
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And so not all kids love all spices,
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but, you know, those are helpful.
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And ginger, you know, things like including ginger in your diet.
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I mean, I remember growing up,
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my parents talking about
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there are foods that are hot foods
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and there are foods that are cold foods.
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This isn't about temperature, but, you know,
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cold foods are like seafood.
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So if you eat crab, you have to have a hot food
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that goes with it.
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And so ginger would be considered a hot food.
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And so, and this is like, you know,
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a weird way to describe foods,
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but there's always this pairing of different foods
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that come together so that you're always kind of in balance.
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And now, and what we know is that garlic
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is actually really good for your microbiome.
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You know, even has some antibacterial properties
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that are, you know, beneficial.
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And so I think that there is something we said
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for including also different spices in your foods.
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I love that.
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Yeah, we say that your spice and your herbs that are at home,
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that's kind of like your nature is apothecary,
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that you should be resourcing all the time.
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So make sure your spice cabinet looks really good,
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something that you want to go to.
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And I love that.
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I'm hearing put ginger in the morning smoothie too,
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because you're balancing the hot and the cold.
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Yeah, which I love.
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Beautiful.
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A little kick.
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Yeah, exactly.
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All right, I want to get to some questions from the audience.
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So Nadi is asking, how do I choose what pendulum product
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is right?
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And I think you've discussed that.
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Working with a practitioner is really essential.
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Starting with acrimansia is something that you can do,
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but your glucose control is something
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that you should start right away.
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I really do.
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I mean, I really think that glucose control for 90 days,
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if it's working for you, step down to the metabolic day,
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because basically if you start with the lower thing,
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if you start with just acrimansia, it doesn't work for you.
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You don't know if there's even a probiotic problem
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or a microbiome problem.
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And so just philosophically, starting with the most potent thing,
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that works for you, then you can start to tie tray back.
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So I would say start with glucose control for 90 days
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and then step your way back.
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Beautiful.
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Eric is asking, I've made so many dietary changes
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and tried supplements, but my digestive issues persist.
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What can I explore?
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Well, this is a classic thing that we hear.
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And probably you've been working really hard to self-experiment
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and figure out what's going to work or not work for you.
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And you've probably been trying what you think
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are different probiotics, but they're actually
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likely the same strains.
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And so you haven't really been trying things
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that would potentially have different outcomes.
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And this is where different strains
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and the strains that are in the pendulum products
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could be a benefit for you.
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And there's, I mean, literally just last week,
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I was talking to someone that you and I both know and comment.
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I won't mention their name here, but they had come to you
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and they'd been trying all kinds of different products.
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And it wasn't until they went on the pendulum probiotics
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that they actually had improved to their digestion.
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And I think that that really is, it's a diverse environment.
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And so just trying to introduce some new strains.
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And again, I'm not trying to market and be gimmicky about it.
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But if you try a pendulum probiotics for three months
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and you get a difference, you know it's going to work for you.
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Beautiful.
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But 90 days, Lisa's asking, how do I know
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if I've healed my gut?
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This is maybe a good opportunity.
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It's like we go on these probiotics.
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Maybe we have some symptoms that persist.
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But how do we know?
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How do we know when, you know,
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when do we stop the gut protocol?
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Well, it probably has to do with what you've thought
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your problem was in the beginning.
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So what is the gut issue that you're trying to solve?
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You know, there's diarrhea, constipation, gas,
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loading, heartburn.
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There's a variety of different things that are bringing you
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to this moment where you're trying to figure out a solution.
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And so I think you know, if you're being mindful
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and tracking on those things, you'll know
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and you've hit that moment of, I feel successful.
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I feel like I've nailed it.
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And that's the moment I am always a fan
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of less is more simplify everything.
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And so that's the moment to start pairing back
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on all the stuff you've been doing.
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Because you might have introduced a hundred new things
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to your system.
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And if you're better, awesome, that's amazing.
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Now start cutting them back to what's the minimum thing you need.
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And you know, as we discussed, there might be moments
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of time where you have to bring things back into your life.
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But trying to simplify I think is always great.
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But you know, you've gotten there because you started
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with a problem and you sensibly know
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if it's gotten better.
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Yeah, I would say anybody who has any acute symptoms
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work with a practitioner, right?
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In our world, we tend to look at a lot of labs
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pretty consistently and understand your inflammatory markers.
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And maybe you are doing this tool to understand
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what you're actually dealing with.
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So you know what protocol to use.
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But definitely don't go to, you know, what's trending,
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what social media is saying all the time
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is something because otherwise it becomes too restrictive
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and too controlling.
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And I think that caring for your gut microbiome
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should just be part of an everyday health practice
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for life because we now are learning
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that it's associated with so many of our imbalances
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and even longevity.
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And I'm so excited that people are starting
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to really know that their gut health is important for them.
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And I'm so grateful for you for bringing education
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information about how do you guide people
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to what should they be doing to improve their gut health?
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Because I think once you know it's important for you
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and you start trying to look at what's out there
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to your point about what's on social media, it's complicated.
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It's complicated.
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Yeah, I'm so grateful for your insight.
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I'd love to know, like what are you most excited about
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when we're looking at the world of medicine for the future?
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I think I'm really excited about the new discoveries
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that continue to be made about how we can bring natural products
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into the world of medicine.
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And I think the microbiome is our entree into that world.
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And so for anybody who's doing microbiome work
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that is actually following the protocols
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of placebo control, double blinded randomized trial,
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looking at causation, looking at how curative properties,
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and not just writing the marketing wave of microbiome,
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all of those people I'm so grateful for
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that are doing really stand up work
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because once we understand the role of the microbiome
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and how you can introduce these natural products,
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we will start to be able to live in a world
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where you can kind of capitalize on the efficacy
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of a drug, but the safety of a natural product.
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And that's the promise of the microbiome.
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Yeah.
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And you know, if you were to leave our listeners
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with just three takeaways,
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something that they should start doing today,
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what would it be?
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Three takeaways.
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One is hopefully after this, you feel like you know more
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about the gut microbiome, I wanna go learn more about it.
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So be aware that your gut microbiome is so important
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to your health and go get educated,
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go read more, go learn more about it.
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I would say the second thing is that thinking about your nutrition
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and getting a high fiber, high polyphenol diet,
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which can help feed your microbiome is really important.
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And then the third thing is, you know,
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if you don't have one, you should go get a dog
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because I'm gonna go get a good microbiome.
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Oh my God, we're my children.
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And I'll let it all in also come check out pendulumlife.com.
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We have a lot of educational materials on there
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so that you can learn more about the microbiome.
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And then if you're thinking about trialing,
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I think 90 days is a great way to get started.
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I couldn't agree more.
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You have a wealth of information on the pendulum website
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and I'm so grateful for you and for your voice
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and for your transparency.
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And what really comes off from you is like your patient
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centered approach.
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And I can feel the empathy that you have
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in terms of speaking about these products
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and educating about these products
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and that's what really stands out.
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So thank you so much.
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What about keeping in touch with you?
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Are you on social?
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Feel like communicating with your audience.
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Hi, well I am starting to do that.
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So I do have a Dr. Colling cut clip
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that you could follow me there.
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And you'll have to be patient
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because I am just getting started here
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and trying to put out content
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that I think is meaningful to the world.
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And it's really not about that,
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that is not about pendulum, that's about microbiome
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and all the amazing news discoveries that are happening.
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And so I'm just trying to be a place
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where we can bring education to the world.
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And I'll say one last thing about the reason
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I started this company and the reason that pendulum exists
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really is to improve the health of millions of people
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through the microbiome.
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And just a little nugget about how important that is to us.
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We start every board meeting with a testimonial
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from a practitioner and a testimonial from a customer
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so that before we get into all the financials
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and the business, we all remember why we're here
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and who we're serving.
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Hopefully we'll have you on today.
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I'm Diana Kion.
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I got the testimonial from clients for myself.
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But that's the goal, that's why we're here.
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And so really pleased to give us feedback.
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We want the good, the bad, the ugly.
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Tell us when things aren't working.
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Tell us what we can do to be better.
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Tell us the information that you want to hear.
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Tell it to us at pendulumwreck.com.
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Tell it to me at Dr. Colleen Cuckliffe.
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We really are just here to try to be sources of help.
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Please go check out everything.
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It's going to be in the show notes below.
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We want more of you.
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So definitely get that website up and going.
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I know your girls are going to be on you.
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Also to support you.
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Thank you so much for joining me today.
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Thank you for having me.
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Yeah.