10 Years After Our First Mastermind: What Real Estate Investing Looks Like Now

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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 years ago, before Investor was even born, we started our first Mastermind with women from four different states via Skype, yeah, you heard it right, her date herself here, but that's how we started.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The goal was to meet in a monthly basis to support each other's businesses.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And out of
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[SPEAKER_03]: So in today's episode, this is all about where they're at now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened with their real state portfolio?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Their business, how do they change themselves?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do they value nowadays?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Real Estate Investor podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A top 1% show helping women achieve financial freedom by investing in real estate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, your host, Liz Faircloth and Andressa Gidelli.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Brennan, let's start with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How have you changed as a driven?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can say that about you is a driven women real thing faster from the past 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a tough question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So much it feels like has changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've definitely entered, like I'll say personally, like just as a woman entered a different phase of my life where the tolerance for pretty much anything is very low.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I'm all about getting things done at this point in my life and not really letting anything or anyone get in the way of that, and I would say that for me has been a big change because I was much more of a pleaser historically, so there's been a shift there, and then just in business,
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[SPEAKER_02]: again a great deal has changed when we were in the rooms if you will kind of chatting about what we were working on 10 years ago we were talking about for me things like we were in the process of potentially launching a small boutique hotel and we were building small units and single family homes but in pretty small volume we've now grown a company that builds over 100 units a year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And have also taken a construction company in house, so that was a big learning and a new movement for us over the past year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So lots of great things have changed and we're having a lot of fun doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in the rewarded hotel in Philadelphia, I remember when you guys purchased it, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a fun project that we acquired that property in 2018.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was meant to be a year and a half renovation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It took three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, we are honored to have received a Michelin key in 2024 and 2025 and I believe while lots of people put great work into this establishment, I believe that it's really mostly focused on the great history of the women who used to gather in that space for over a hundred years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a really a powerful story about the women's movement and we're so proud who have been able to bring it to life here in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how about you, Mindy, what has changed?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What has changed in my real estate investing is that I don't really invest in real estate anymore.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've got a couple of syndications.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I always have my eye out for something, but we have been living flipping since 1996.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's a lot of work to move and move and move and move and I looked at my husband as we are I'm sitting in my last living flip that still isn't done six years later.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That was also a two-year renovation, Brennan, so it's not just you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I looked at my husband a few, maybe a few years ago and I was like, I don't want to do this anymore.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is just it's so much work we never have any free time and we're just
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I have pulled back and, you know, I'm 53 now, I don't need to prove myself to anybody anymore and I just want to have a chill life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I haven't found it yet, I'm still taking on too much, but I have decided that I am just going to continue to invest in the stock market and in businesses in my local city that I believe in and want to see grow and I've really pulled back from actual real estate investing now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mindy, I don't know is the word Mindy, and chill goes together.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to make them friends.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, all right, I think that's possible.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, the difference between now and 10 years ago, I'm kind of running with what Mindy here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I've pulled back a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I still invest in things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I still do things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But 10 years ago, I was in the throws of building, you know, my company and trying to gather rental properties, trying to find just new things to invest in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And now I just kind of have my stuff and I manage it and it's cool, but I don't want, I don't want more of it because to me, more of it just means more work.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I feel like I have enough work to do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, the real estate market, that's definitely soft in the lot since interest rates have gone up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, it's kind of being like forced to take a little bit of a break, especially with the post-COVID craziness of the market and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, now that the market itself has kind of taken a break and kind of forced me to take a a little bit more of a break, I'm enjoying it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm just spending a lot more time traveling, just trying to be a little bit more available to my kids, stuff, you know, like I said, they're kind of new teenagers and want to be taken everywhere and whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm still working.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just not focusing a lot of my energy into building, more maintaining.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How about you, Jonathan?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it was interesting, I think there's a common theme here, which is really lovely to hear everyone where they're at right now because a lot of us haven't connected in person for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_07]: At the time 10 years ago, I was extremely busy being sports mom and kids in high school and doing all of the fun.
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[SPEAKER_07]: teenage things.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Now I'm an empty nester and during that span, I think I propelled off of that mastermind and did some really fun things.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I grew a large real estate team.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I was very, very focused on a lot of sales.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We self-managed properties and we also bought quite a bit of real estate within the last 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And like many of you, I'm kind of coming full circle and I recently
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[SPEAKER_07]: where I feel like I'm called to be and that is working with and building up other real estate investors and helping people navigate the market and what it looks like now because it is a different market than 2016 and certainly 2021 and finding some joy in that and I think it's about finding this mix of how we can serve others and help them but also find that joy in life and new hobbies and like Don, I like to travel and have some fun things on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a common theme here, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think as we get older and wiser, the priorities have shifted.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And how do you guys handle time right now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Versus 10 years ago, did anything change?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you doing anything differently?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because we hear a lot of women saying that they have a lot on their plate and they don't have time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, what would you say to them, Brendan?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's in line with what others are saying here, which is about simplifying, right, focusing on the things that are most important and are going to be most impactful, both to my business and to the community and to my family, right, and probably in the inverse order there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just making space and delegating, right, where we can have gotten better at delegating and finding ways to
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[SPEAKER_02]: As for help, right, have gotten better at that and making sure that there's a team around you and your leveraging people who are smarter and faster and have, you know, the patience of a younger person to deal with some of those things and then just really focusing on building the relationships is what I find is become the focal point of my time is working with key players to make sure that, again, we're making as much of an impact as we can.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mindy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mindy, how about you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How did you see time now that anything changed for you?
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[SPEAKER_06]: 10 years ago was actually probably the busiest of my life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had started working full-time after being a state home mom for eight years, and my husband was also working full-time, so who was doing the grocery shopping?
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[SPEAKER_06]: There was not a lot of communication, who was going to clean the house, that got pushed to the side.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had a nine year old and a six year old, and
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[SPEAKER_06]: They're a lot of work.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They still want your attention 24, 7.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And because I was a stay at home, mom, they didn't go ask dad, they asked mom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, well, mom's working, can you ask dad?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, but you know, and when you're the primary parent because your husband is working, they just, it's,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Custom for them to go to you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't even think to go to dad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And now I've got a 19-year-old in college and a 16-year-old at home who is driving, think goodness I don't have to do drive line anymore.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My work has slowed down a little bit on purpose.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I am making it more of a priority to advocate for myself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I wanted to get in shape.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's really easy to sit at your computer when you're working all day and then not go to the gym, especially if you hate going to the gym.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But going to the gym or not going to the gym is how I gained like 30 pounds over the last 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Probably more like 40 if we're being honest.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I have made it a point to get to the gym the only way that I go to the gym is when I put it on my calendar.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I made a repeating calendar invite every Monday at 730 every Tuesday at 730 every Wednesday at 730 Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They don't have a 730 class so every Thursday at 830 and every Friday at 730.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And because it's in my calendar people aren't scheduling meetings at that time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So, I now have the ability to go to the gym and I've been going to the gym for a year.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I feel better about myself, I've lost 30 pounds, I'm continuing to lose weight as I continue to go to the gym and making myself a priority in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: is one of the biggest factors in me being a priority because it's so easy to sit there and be like, oh, well, my kids need me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My husband needs me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The house needs me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This needs me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody else needs me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I fall by the wayside and now I am putting myself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If not first, I'm putting my, I'm putting myself first at 730.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you have to do that if you want to make changes because nobody else is going to put you first.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, why don't you go to the gym?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, my husband does say, like, no, no, go to the gym, go to the gym.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But like, I had to put it in my calendar and make it a priority in order for it to be a priority.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How about you, Dawn, you had a little, little babies and now they're bad things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know, when Mindy was saying she just started working at that point, I was like, gosh, I was like, I was in the throes of having toddler twins.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember 10 years ago when they were three, I had just gotten noticed from my ex, as Ben's mom, that she was moving to Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So between her and my mom, they basically came up every single day and helped take care of the kids.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I could go work and explore appointments and stuff
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[SPEAKER_05]: And when she said she was moving to Atlanta, I was just heartbroken.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like very selfishly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, what is going to happen to my babysitter?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I had started my property management company.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I started that in 2010.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So that was really just kind of like picking up and getting really, really busy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I had taken on a partner, I had hired an assistant.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I was, and then when the sales kind of started picking up after the last recession, everything just got really, really crazy between trying to do all that work myself.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, at that time I had, like I said, taken on a partner, hired an assistant, hired some other agents and stuff, I was never really trying to build a team, but I just kind of had certain needs that needed to be met there, you know, I couldn't do the property management and the sales and run both sides of the company.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you change anything when he comes down to time management?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like 10 years ago, I've pretty much had no time management.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like putting out whatever fires were, you know, set that day, and it was constantly like chasing my tail, trying to get that to do loads, like now, you know, but you're working all day long.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And at that point, you'd especially like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: post-COVID where the market just really, you know, went crazy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, gosh, I was working, I mean, you know, we were selling, you know, between kind of three, well, really, just two of us.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We were selling probably 80 to 90 homes a year.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not crazy, but that's a lot, but the worst part of it is like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: During COVID, you were making a lot of offers and, you know, you'd be one of 20 or 30 offers, you know, your client wouldn't get the house.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you start the process over next week.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, yeah, I sold a lot of home.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So we did a lot of work that went unpaid as well.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, so I think time management at that point was really just, you know, trying to handle whatever is thrown at you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's kind of nice now to have a little bit of a forced break that I didn't really, I don't think I really understood at the time how much I needed this time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But now, you know, it's nice that I can
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[SPEAKER_05]: take a little mini weekend trip and hop in my camper van and go up amount and just like go hang out and check out a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If I don't have great cell phone reception, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Look, it's not going to like be the end of the world and stuff, but but the flip side of that is I also no longer have a business partner.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The need is just not there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I had to let go of my system this year because the need is just not there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so I'm kind of having to take on some of that work again that I was used to delegating.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're evolving, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: We all take the seasons and evolve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that that's what Liz and I want to really share with all the women out there because sometimes it's sold to us is that there is a straight line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is what you have to do in order to be successful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you have all the different stories here among yourselves that really sharing how the ups and downs and the turns and the pivots and the plans that didn't work and how you are just into the season that you are in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that's the message to all the women out there, that it's okay to
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[SPEAKER_03]: adjust and pivot and to value what is important to you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How about you, Janna?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anything terms of time management?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I look back 10 years ago and even five years ago and I was, I think I'm a recovering people pleaser.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Like many of us are and I would just really took very little regard for my own time and so much so that I just want that to be a warning
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[SPEAKER_07]: to those that they really need to guard their own time better and I certainly did and I feel like I'm at a place now.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I feel great about actually.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I've limited my like people appointments run out and about in professional and forward facing to just a couple of days a week and I find that I'm just as effective and so I'm filtering everything now through two lenses.
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[SPEAKER_07]: One, does it make sense for the business?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is it profitable?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Is it, you know, money income producing or does it bring me joy?
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[SPEAKER_07]: The first time in my life, I'm valuing the things that bring me joy just as much as the things that are income producing.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And it really, I think, is actually helping my business.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So it's been fun, but it's been a learning experience for sure.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And just like John, what you said during the COVID years and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that was that was intense.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't wish to repeat that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I hope that others can learn from our situation and pace themselves better.
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[SPEAKER_04]: love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In terms of skill sets, you know, as we evolve as women, business owners, our skill sets also have to evolve, or they should evolve, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we're not, we're not doing the same things we were doing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm curious, but in for you, what skill set?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you need to evolve develop to be the woman you are today, the entrepreneur you are today, and the investor you are today?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What specifics do you have now that you didn't maybe 10 years ago?
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[SPEAKER_02]: A few things pop into my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One, I would say is like a leadership skill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't do it all by yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to be willing to work with other team members and partners and
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[SPEAKER_02]: and focus on making the most of where you have where I have gaps in my ability to do things finding people who are greeted those skills and filling those gaps in being willing to accept help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Communication I've learned is just like everything, communication to your team, communication to outside audiences that you're partnering with and working with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And relationship building, that's something my husband's been focused on for a really long time, but I never, you know, I was usually like back office accounting type responsibilities and I've become more of like a company facing role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's really important as a woman, particularly, to not just be behind the end of the scenes and taking more of a step forward, even though that's not always super comfortable for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I think it's important and that I value very much where I wouldn't have probably, you know, eight to ten years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and you see the value of it and then you're like, okay, I need to own this, and you're going to have a different way than your husband.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're different personalities, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, Mindy?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to tag off of Brennan's answer and say communication because nobody is going to know what you are thinking unless you tell them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you're not going to know what anybody else is thinking unless you ask nobody reads minds and anybody who tells you they do is a scammer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know anyone
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[SPEAKER_03]: I always say to Liz, what does it mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I pretend I am unpredictable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I use my English as a second language as the reason to ask clarification questions to people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I really want to know what did they mean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean by it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes we assume that people have the same intentions or the same goals, especially when women are going
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[SPEAKER_03]: I always say, hey, let's have, what is the agenda?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was so tired of going to meetings, let's say, hold on a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not even the intention of the meeting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we going to this rabbit hole that it's not even the purpose of it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I conquer with all of you in terms of communication, getting super clear, simple, straightforward, soy lands.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to give a quick tip to everyone listening because on just an eye, our communication has evolved over the last 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would hope it has, right, on just for you and how to keep partnered and doing what we're doing together.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And one of our coaches once had us do is exercise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, write down the word school.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and then write down the three words that come to your mind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So her and I do this, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Me writing down the words.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he goes, okay, listen, what were your three words?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I forget with my three words, but they were you said, oh, hi, of course you're pursuing a number.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I'm like those three members, what I said, but I said three words, and just I said three words, not, I think it was maybe one word matched or none of them matched.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And here's a word, school, one of the most common words, and we couldn't even define it or see it the same way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, I get that to everyone listening because do that with people that you might not be or you may be communicating well with or when it elevate the communication because we often think people know what we're saying but we may not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, just a quick little exercise to do, to be more aligned.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, Janna?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What skill set has evolved for you and that you really use now or have now that you may not have had 10 years ago?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if this exactly answers the question, but I was thinking about one thing that's changed for me in the skill set that I've developed in this constantly evolving.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's just that ability to trust my own intuition and get for the next right next move.
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[SPEAKER_07]: and whether that's a personal or a business kind of thing in this context mainly business, but I think that's also where a mastermind can be so beautiful when you get with others that really get to know you and it's not just 130-minute conversation that they recognize your patterns, they can call you out, you know, when you're giving yourself excuses and
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[SPEAKER_07]: and are maybe going down the right wrong path for what your skill sets are.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a beautiful thing and I've continued to foster that in other ways ever since we had our mastermind together.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But beyond that, just trusting my own intuition and get, I think we can get caught up and asking for so many opinions for next steps, even from, you know, marking the experts out there in business and investing experts.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And oftentimes you will find that
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[SPEAKER_07]: personal agendas for why they're communicating through their lens and you just need to be aware of that and just take the time.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's worth so much to take that little bit of time to sit still with yourself and know what that next right move is and it hasn't failed me.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I just have learned to listen to it more often.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Within the real staying vasser community, we hear a lot of women talking about confidence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That what is missing is confidence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And very often we see women saying, oh, I just lack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: knowledge and then they go to a rabbit hole of trying to figure out every single thing about the subject and all the possibilities that can go wrong and then all the sudden they fight themselves over while that they take no action.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is the secret to become?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Confident.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a combination of things?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because ultimately the women want to start investing in real estate or take their business to the next level, growing even more what they already have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's a confidence gap.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what are your thoughts, Brendan?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think about how to get their faster, because I struggled with this myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was the person that, you know, I read Rich Deb Portad and I analyzed 150 deals after that before I pulled the trigger.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I overanalyzed everything for a long time, not just, you know, in the beginning but for years and years after that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, if I could say to my younger self, like, you can take a chance every now and then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It needs to be mitigated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you need to look at the risk and understand the risk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it's not going to break your family, if it's not going to break your bank and put you in some treacherous situation, like take the risk, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give yourself a shot, even if it goes poorly, you're going to learn a ton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think it's just about, you know, making sure you know the worst case scenario,
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[SPEAKER_02]: taking shots when you can and that's what's going to build your confidence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only way you're going to get confident or the only way I've become confident is just from learning and making a ton of mistakes, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You all know, I've been through some blood baths, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Florida stories and everything else, like there was really difficult things, but I've learned from all of them, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you recover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you find a way out and when you come out you've got all these deep lessons that you know what not to do again and that's just going to make you even stronger and make the next thing that you do more successful.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's interesting, Brian, because when ends up happening for a lot of women is they make them a stake and then they stop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's not a comma, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a period and they just stop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's one of the parts that you're saying is so important not to stop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I always like to say, I heard that once like it's a comma, it's not a period, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't don't stop there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You get to evolve and shift.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I love that point.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about for you, Mindy?
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[SPEAKER_06]: One of my favorite quotes is from Coco Chanel, and it's, I don't care what you think about me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think about you at all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And stopping worrying about what other people think about you is the number one key to confidence, because what is it matter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if somebody,
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[SPEAKER_06]: Go read all of the reviews on my podcast.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's some pretty awful ones talking about me specifically.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I could read those and let them ruin my day or I just don't read them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because ultimately, I don't care what those people think about me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not speaking to them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm speaking to the people that want to listen to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So when somebody, that's like really easy to sit here and say, I will tell you that I have read some of these reviews and like,
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[SPEAKER_06]: that kind of just ruined my whole day, but then I remember Coco and I'm like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't care what you think about me because I don't think about you at all.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, Don, in terms of confidence?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What comes up for you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure that I've ever actually gained confidence, but what I did kind of, you know,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that comes with ages that you do just kind of stop caring so much about what other people think and Realize that yeah other people's opinions who you don't value just don't matter to you anyways and just carry on, you know Do what you want to do and then I think the other like personality trait of mine that works well for me Even though I don't have actual confidence.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do have a lack of desire to want to analyze stuff to death, you know It's like I'll do stuff I'll run the numbers
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[SPEAKER_05]: looks good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, all right, that seems fine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm just more like, yellow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I just kind of have a positive outlook.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just assume things will work out for the best.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And if they don't, that you'll learn some lessons.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, obviously you try not to lose too much money at any given time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, if something doesn't go perfectly or you do lose some money, you probably did gain some lessons.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so, and I'm okay with that outcome.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I kind of think like, yes, what is the worst key scenario?
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[SPEAKER_05]: am I okay with that outcome?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is it going to ruin me?
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[SPEAKER_05]: If not, then go for it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, just go do it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so it's not so much confidence.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not like, yes, I'm definitely going to make this workout.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's more of like, yeah, what's worth looking at?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're saying like, your question, if you got confidence or not, because if you were to ask me like, do you think Don is confident?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, is that a question?
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[SPEAKER_03]: because I see you so confident, so powerful, there's nobody that I will recommend about real stating North Carolina than you, you know your craft, you don't be asked around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that when you are just you,
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[SPEAKER_03]: you, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is that transparency.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like exudes confidence to me because people that are trying to wear masks to me, that shows that they're not confident being themselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll fight with you on that one because I think you're damn confident on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I definitely appreciate that it's kind of nice to see what, you know, outsiders think of you and kind of how you portray yourself, you know, obviously you want to look like you know what you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I would say when it comes to real estate, yes, you know, if you ask me a question about real estate, I'm going to give you the right answer or if it's the wrong answer, I'll let you know that, hey, you know, this could go either way or whatever, but you know, there's certain topics when people are like, hey, what can you talk about for 15 minutes without having your prepare?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, real estate, real estate investing, you want to talk about rental properties and got you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like we can definitely do that, but on the inside, I'm like, oh, how else like what are people doing to think about me and, you know, you worry about that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, Janna?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who comes up for you around with confidence?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, with confidence, well, with real estate was specifically for talking about taking action a real estate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We have a saying.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's only real estate, nobody died, and I know there's huge potential financial consequences we've all dealt with them, but also it is real estate.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It is temporary.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Everything is figure outable at some level, and real estate is forgiving.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you give it enough time, we need to remember that, and you need to, as long as you've done your homework and don't go into a blindly, you know you've done everything you can do.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And then just as far as confidence in general, whether it is.
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[SPEAKER_07]: pulling the trigger on that rental property or speaking on stage, I do forward-paced.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's the worst that can happen?
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[SPEAKER_07]: And after I've played all of that out of my head, it's not so bad.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And if I trip on stage, it's a part of the story.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And every hero and every highly paid speaker in people that are out there making huge example in life, they've all gone through the valleys, right?
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[SPEAKER_07]: And you just have to think it's all part of the story.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And that makes it more interesting for me
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to ask this question to you, John, and then we'll piggyback on the next person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's one thing you're excited about that you're working on right now?
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[SPEAKER_07]: I am excited about helping high income earners really learn how to harness the power of real estate in different forms.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We know it's looked very different than it did five years ago, but I do believe there's some great opportunities there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And just the education piece of it, I was a teacher at one time, I'm a teacher at heart and
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[SPEAKER_07]: it's amazing how many people come into my life and I know yours too in your wonderful community that are highly educated but really do not have a clue on how to earn more with their money than a CD in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And when their eyes open up and they know that there's more potential for increasing their wealth and giving them options retirement, it's really exciting for me right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a shared one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about you, Dawn?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's getting you excited right now?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are you working on?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's exciting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I've been just trying to really dial in on my own like personal finance journey and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've been using a tool projection lab to kind of model out various scenarios and figure out like, you know, how much work do I really need to do?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, okay, if my kids play club volleyball, how would it change the calculus and stuff?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, that's been kind of interesting, like I really enjoy like the numbers and the spreadsheets and, you know, being like really analytical about that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, like, you know, that kind of gets me moving and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But like, honestly, the actual moves that I'm making have been not exciting and they've been much more conservative.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you just got so lit up, Don, talking about the projection labs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So clearly, it's exciting to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's in members and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I've had you, Mindy, what's getting you, you know, excited right now in terms of a project.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I am writing my first non-fiction book and that is really exciting for me, as well as making time for myself.
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[SPEAKER_06]: to be able to write.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Again, it had to go in my calendar.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If it's not of my calendar, it's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So getting used to using a calendar is actually really exciting for me because now it's I'm not playing defense.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm playing offense or I will be once I get really used to using that calendar.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But like, just making time for myself doesn't really sound like such a big deal, but it's a huge deal,
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[SPEAKER_06]: putting out fires.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And now I'm actually looking forward to things instead of just well, what is today going to throw at me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How about you, Brennan?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll just say, Mindy, I feel that so much like making time for yourself is everything and I was terrible at that for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it feels good to carve out some time, to focus on yourself and your wellness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're really, or what I'm really excited about is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So our company builds workforce housing in partnership with the city of Philadelphia, which makes home ownership available to individuals that otherwise would be locked out of such opportunity, at least in the city of Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are working on some potential partnerships that are going to allow us to scale this thing to like another level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's more not there yet, but I'm really excited about the conversations that are taking place and the organizations that are able to make an impact in the city and feel really good about the potential of bringing those organizations together with our ability to build the product, to make home ownership available to even more people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just love our favorite thing is like watching a home buyer leave our office with the keys to a new house that they never ever like in their wildest dreams thought they could buy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So having found this opportunity where like we've been grinding it out in real estate for a well a long time and it's always been fun and like exciting but finding this middle point where we get to make an impact in the community and do the real estate investing that we have always loved is a really fun and exciting thing for us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to wrap it up here with a question that I heard in another podcast, I'm like, I'm going to copy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So basically talks about balancing self development and really being okay where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're all here very high achievers and we're always looking to evolve.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for you guys in particular,
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you balance that out?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is something that you're working on and what do you or something that you're like?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually am good here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where are you at with that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with you, Brendan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's so much more that I need to learn the opportunities or endless.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm a reader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a stack of books, you know, next to my bed, and it's just a matter of like churning through those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will say that I do less on like the networking front than I was never a huge networker to begin with, but I do less of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I probably could do more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm more just focused on learning from the people around me and being open to, you know, again, there's plenty of blind stop spots that I have in skill sets that aren't my core competency and just leaning on leveraging others that have those abilities is
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[SPEAKER_02]: the way I fill those gaps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not from never going to become marketing genius.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never going to become a sales genius, but we have people on our team that we can lean on to fill those gaps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just trying to hone in on the things that I feel like are my core competency and become stronger and stronger at those and letting the other things go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just can't be a master of all things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How about you, Mindy?
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[SPEAKER_06]: figuring out what my definition of enough is was key to me balancing my self development with being okay where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I look at my family and I look at my financial position and I look at my amount of free time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And
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[SPEAKER_06]: I realize that I do have enough and now I'm not chasing the next thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm writing a non-fiction book because I want to write a non-fiction book.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've got it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's all in my head.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I just have to get it out of paper and if I sell zero copies, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I wrote the book.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And if I sell a billion copies, that'd be cool too, but if I don't, I'm totally fine with like not even finding a publisher and putting it up on like Amazon self-publish and selling absolutely no copies and I'm totally okay with that and it's not going to be ready for like a year and a half so don't get excited but because I have enough, I have enough
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[SPEAKER_06]: love in my life, I have enough money that I will never need to work again or do things that take me away from the people that I want to spend time with.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that most people who are like, oh, I don't know how I'm going to fit it all in are not really sure what enough means to them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good concept for another book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mindy put that on your next book to write, huh?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was good to say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll write your phone.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let me write it for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_04]: This.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look at it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or at a character in your book that has something to do with that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It wouldn't fit into this book, but I've got more books in me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What kind of book are you writing?
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's a murder mystery.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Look at you.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How about you, gentlemen?
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I was reflecting on that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I think, especially when we were all in our mastermind together, I don't know if it was just me, but I feel like there was such a Russian personal development and we were all doing it like it was our job.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And at least I was.
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[SPEAKER_07]: You know, I think it's awesome, but miracle morning and all of the things to do all this and it was just a little tiring and I have less I've taken my foot off the gas so much on that and one thing that I'm doing right now that I'm finding I really like is just to really identify those one or two things I really want to learn in a quarter and then focusing on that and being okay with putting
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[SPEAKER_07]: all the other motivational speakers and stuff they're amazing, but I can put them to the side and right now I'm learning something you guys have mastered is just like how to make a better podcast.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And so I've been seeing the podcasting episodes on podcasting and different things that are really tactical right now as far as my personal development.
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[SPEAKER_07]: And I think you can go overboard and I see that even with a lot of new investors, they just get so into the weeds with
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[SPEAKER_07]: all of the personal development that they don't take action, and so that's something to be aware of, but just focus on a couple of things we don't have to boil the ocean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that so much because I think sometimes we hear and we want to have that, you know, to do list and then we get frustrated with the never-ending.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ladies, we gotta do this more, though, each person, I feel we have so many more questions here, so lovely to see you and it's an honor to have you in our lives and to see how you
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[SPEAKER_03]: We want to continue building that relationship with all of you as we grow older.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you so much for taking the time to be here today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great to see you all lovely to like reconnect and I great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be nice to do a checkpoint every now and then.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you for giving us the opportunity to be in the mastermind in the first place because I think I know it was very transformative for each and every one of us and I'm glad that others through your group have this opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for listening.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you've found today's conversation valuable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss any future episodes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll see you next week.