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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you reverse menopause people are going on menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you reverse it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're talking about reversing the symptoms, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're talking about delaying menopause, yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of reversing, like if you already post menopause technically, can you rejuvenate yourself back to ovulation or getting your periods back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, you get your periods back through HRT, but it's a fake bleed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a real bleeding, you know, ovulating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Dr. Duay Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where I have a chance to share with you some of the latest developments in the space of holistic health, longevity and wellness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always honored intellectual curiosity and scientific rigor, combined with real world practicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My goal is that what you learn here will help you live longer and live better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to the Dr. Joy Kong podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm here to help you live a longer and happier life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're all here wanting to really live exuberantly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, we have a very interesting subject on menopause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have an expert with me, Zora.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So nice to see Zora.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to see you too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited about this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Zora Benamo is a gerontologist and she studies aging and she's very passionate about challenging stereotypes regarding menopause and stigma and all the different ages stereotypes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she hosts the HACMA H podcast and focusing on empowering women navigating the menopausal transition through biohacking techniques and information from forward thinking experts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I cannot wait to dive into menopause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, right half of the world are women and if you're lucky you're going to live into your menopausal age and with all heard about the challenges, half lashes and the mood swings and
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[SPEAKER_01]: or aches and pains, right, people start to experience more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you studied aging at USC, and then you also studied under various, you know, incredible experts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what do you think are the myths surrounding menopause?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, where should I start?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The list?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The list is long, but you know, I talked to a lot of women around the world about menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do these one-minute reels and post them in Instagram and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have to say very often, I get what I say, hey, I'd like to talk to you about menopause, can you answer five questions?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Many women who are in maybe other 60s would say, oh, I didn't do menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I don't have menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, well, do you still have a period?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I still think you're in menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so some women when they decide, when they hear the word menopause, they think it's just this suffering or these, they associate it with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in fact, when we talk about menopause, it's this, the Perry menopause, the post menopause is sort of a umbrella term, but some women say I didn't do it, yes, you did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: other women would say, oh, I'm too young for menopause and they're how old are you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 48.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, um, sorry, menopause, you're more or less, but they're not even thinking of because they think menopause is for old women, or it's after 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, won't even think about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's some, some cultures.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a negative word where that means when I ask somebody on the street, can I talk to you about menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They look at me like no, and how rude of you, because you just told me old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a stigma in different cultures have different attitudes towards menopause and that word and the whole process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there any country that's really welcoming and positive?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I say Thailand was probably my most positive experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And women were very open to talking to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I usually get a lot of rejection when I pull out a camera and say, hey, can I film this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in Thailand, it was, oh, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they will talk about their libido and their vagina and their sex line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I was not expecting that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very open.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were very, very open to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in menopause, again, for them, is just a stage of life, and I see differences in terms of socioeconomic levels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if somebody's a fruit vendor in Vietnam and she's asking about menopause, she's like, why would you even want to talk to me about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Suffering pain?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I've been suffering for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to get food on the table for my family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got bigger fish to fry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they have so many other things to worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the first thing to tell me about something important, yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then different cultures of different treatments, but yeah, they would, they wouldn't, yeah, they wouldn't be, they would be more open to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, I thought Asia would, in general, would be harder to get people to talk, but I found it ought to be a lot easier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so a lot of people do suffer through menopause, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think is the percentage of women who actually have a hard time during menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you talk about hard time, what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a spectrum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's about 20% of the women who say, I don't feel anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a breeze, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's about 20, 25% who say, I feel everything under the sun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then everyone else is kind of in between.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we all will fall somewhere in the spectrum.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're only really looking at three or four symptoms that we know about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe your period stop, maybe you have a hot flash or a mood swing, maybe sleep disruption, that's all people are thinking about when in fact there are documented 103 different symptoms of menopause so we're not thinking about joint pain or associating that with the loss of our hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not thinking about phantom smells, where we smell smoke, but no one else does to the loss of our hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of things that we don't feel in terms of us to your porrosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't feel our bones getting brittle or our hearts building up plaque.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But these are signs and symptoms of menopause, and it's due to the loss of our hormones, not only, but they do play quite a big role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when people say I didn't do menopause, or I'm not menopause,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are, they are, and so you need to be aware of some of these things because if your sleep disruption or your depression or anxiety has something to do with your hormones and it behooves us to look at them, may balance them out somehow, at least try this before you get onto an SSRI or anti-depressant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't need them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but it shouldn't be the first call to action when a woman comes in your office
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[SPEAKER_00]: with anxiety or depression or stress, and she's in this menopausal age, it's unfortunate, but most doctors are not trained in menopause and how to treat a woman through this stage of life, but that's just the way it happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens to the body during menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is the simple explanation is really we have been producing estrogen and testosterone and a protester and these are our three main sex hormones that we generally speak about, but there's so many more we talk about insulin and we talk about so many other thyroid hormones but when we talk to say sex hormones we're talking about those and that decline or they fluctuate before they get to menopause and maybe we'll talk about parry menopause and menopause so people understand the different stages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because menopause literally is a one-day event and that's when you've had 12 consecutive months without your period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you've had six months without a period, then you get it again while you ought to start the clock again until you get to your menopause, which is a ridiculous thing, but okay, we have a date and it's only one day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anything after that is called postmenopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But technically, it's postmenopause and then there's early postmenopause and then late postmenopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but up until that minnow birth date, we have Perry menopause, which on average is between five and seven years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some women have 10, some have 15, I've seen women who are in there, you know, who've had it for decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's on average, let's call it five to seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is when your hormones start to fluctuate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where you start to maybe notice some disruptions and sleep, notice your wonky periods, where you used to be a 28-day girl and now you're 25, or more or less, maybe you skip a period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the fluctuations of estrogen and progesterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe testosterone tends to take a dive a little bit later for some women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what women don't realize is around the age of 35 in your mid-30s is when we start to lose progesterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And progesterone is our calming hormone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's our relaxing hormone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it actually takes a deep dive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like estrogen where it does gradually decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's sometimes it feels like you're falling off a cliff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for most women, it's a longer period of decline or as progesterone can literally fall off a cliff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where you start to see the sleep disruption, maybe a little bit anxiety when you never had it before, or more if you had it before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you may have some mood swings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is your, you're not that chill pill is kind of gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's in your 30s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was not thinking about menopause in my mid 30s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know what Parymenopause was when I was going through Parymenopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is something important for the younger listeners to understand because this is when you may go into a doctor's office and say, I can't sleep and I'm stressed out and I'm maybe getting a little depressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that's when you get your sleep medication and your anti-depressants, when maybe doctors should be looking at your hormones testing them and seeing if it is a progesterone deficiency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just topping up with a little bit of progesterone is quite a simple simple thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so that's the decline happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our mid-thirsty, so we got to think about parry menopause in our mid-to-late 30s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely in your 40s and we have early parry menopause, mid-parry menopause and late parry menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are different stages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and it is, you'll see the difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People have different symptoms, not everybody is the same, or we can't have some similarities, but it is different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people will feel more symptoms than others.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they'll be stronger than others.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some lot of women do not have
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[SPEAKER_00]: hot flashes at all, but they may have the joint pain or they may have the mood swings of sleep disruptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So these hormone declines mostly because of their ovarian function declining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, ovarian function is declining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a natural process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, there's some interesting research that's coming out that showing even after menopause or ovaries are still functioning and they do have an important role and they're trying to figure out what is it that's that's
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's really triggering this and what we can do to delay the ovarian decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as far as we know now, we can extend the life of our ovaries, which is great, we can do things to help that along because there are
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most people, not everyone would agree that we want to have ovaries have a good life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep living as long as they possibly can and eventually they'll kind of put around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't mean just because you can't make babies anymore that were useless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we are finding out more and more things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's important to delay ovarian aging if we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some people who can rejuvenate that after a while through
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[SPEAKER_00]: some biohacking techniques, but it is one of these things, yeah, so it's the decline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ovaries aren't producing estrogen, progesterone, as much anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The adrenals start to take over, but they're already taxed by the time you're in your 50s, like we've had a lot going on, and they have to deal with making cortisol and all these other hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they're getting an added stress on it, and that's why we need to really take care of ourselves in this stage of life, and I know it's really hard for some women, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: the more you pay attention to your body and try to give it some love and treat it well, the better off you'll have through this menopause transition, but also to protect your future self.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say people start to notice problems with half lashes and, you know, mood swings and what are some of the hacks that you can suggest to them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are there
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you like the easy fix, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The easy fix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of a caveat, but I think in my community, what I'm seeing the most, the most effective treatments for hot flashes and night sweats and mood swings, or this depression, all these many, many of these common symptoms is hormone therapy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're talking about bio-identical hormone therapy, which is different than the old school
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[SPEAKER_00]: when we bring this on board, it's quite immediate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be two days, two weeks, maybe two months max.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you should be feeling something for sure within those first two months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's not, then you certainly need to talk to your doctor because there's different formulas for different women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But with the caveat to that is I'm a firm believer and we need to
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[SPEAKER_00]: keep this terrain that we're living in healthy so that we can detoxify these hormones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether they're your own hormones and dogously, or whether you bring them out exogenous lane, take them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your liver still needs to do the work to convert estrogen and detoxify this from the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not doing that, that means you're not exercising and sweating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not pwing every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're drinking alcohol a little bit too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you're not giving
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your body, the chance to detoxify these hormones, and I think that's a really, really important thing we need to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like, woohoo, take these hormones and then forget about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing for our bones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't talk about your bones start to become what brittle osteoporosis increases with the loss of estrogen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't feel our bones getting brittle, but it's happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we can't just, oh, let's just take estrogen because it's quote unquote protective or lowers our risk of a fracture later on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We still need to do the impact exercises.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We still need to eat the protein.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We still need to get our sleep in our stress managed as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a one size, it's like a fix, fix all everything on magic bullet, it sounds like a magic bullet and it can be for a lot of women who are really suffering and it's like, how do I ask a woman who's going through menopause with all these symptoms to go to the gym and start eating healthy and when they're not getting good sleep when they're having 10 hot flashes a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: do those healthy habits, and that's where I think the magic quite happens, but that's probably the biggest hack that we have in the mental health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is get on bio-denical hormones, yeah, yeah, yeah, could be a game changer, can be a great game changer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so definitely we talk about estrogen, progesterone, what do you think of testosterone?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, testosterone?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think to definitely women have got to look into this and talk to the doctor about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe not every woman needs testosterone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just test.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a biohacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to test, measure, and assess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do we need these?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we not need these?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if you're on hormones, go and test your hormones when you've had your formula or if you're just starting out because we don't know, are you absorbing this, not absorbing this maybe?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you will know through symptom relief, but are you taking too much or are you taking too little?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You still want your bones protected, you still want to be, you know, having all the benefits, what least, what the research shows and you want to have certain levels, you want them to be detoxifying from the body as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's always testing, I think, that needs to be done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why I'm a firm believer in understanding where your home is at, knowing your numbers,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not just take something go, woo, you know, we're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, we need to do a little bit more work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people say, oh, when you're aging, oh, slow down and take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, I'm sorry, we need to work harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Building muscle isn't as easy as it used to be when we were younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I could take it easy, but I got to go faster and work harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't mean I don't have times of recovery and relaxation and all that, but if you're concerned about your future self, then we need to do certain things today because Alzheimer's and dementia and osteoporosis and cardiovascular disease doesn't happen when you're 70, it all accumulates
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[SPEAKER_00]: when you're much younger, 10, 20, some people would say 30 years before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where I think I want to mention some hacks that a particular easy hack is peptides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why it's gotten so popular because everything you mentioned, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Muscle building, losing fat, repairing faster, sleep better, better cognition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all these aspects will have peptides that can accelerate it for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if you really nice to just add it on,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, podcasts are great, actually, another great hack for depending on your symptom and because menopause is such a general word, we have to think about, well, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for hot flashes, number one, like research is proven, great HRT, but if you're concerned about the weight, right, and you can't get off, and you're doing all the hard work, and nothing's happening, and your hormones are balanced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then maybe the GLP ones,
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[SPEAKER_00]: might be an option for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then if you're concerned about joint pain or your gut issues, your gut BPC-157 isn't a wonderful thing for the gut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the joints as well, or TB-500, like all these crazy peptides that we have available to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, don't do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: by yourself, please don't go on to online website and start ordering peptides and injecting yourself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not all of them are injectables or some supplements and there's some sublingual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of other things that we can use.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The pittleon is another great one for sleep and it's just a sublingual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that if you just don't want to go to hormone root, we do have alternatives, but I would love to hear from your practice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're offering peptides, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we use a lot of peptides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So besides stem cells, which is the big gun for repair and regeneration, you want to kind of target, you know, specific regions of the body.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want sexual function, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are ones that PT1-41 can enhance your sexual function.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want scary generation, GHK copper is fantastic and, you know, a brain regeneration, we have a whole range of peptides for anxiety depression, ADHD and cognition.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and if you want to, you know, fight potential for all immune issues or even fight, you know, protect you against cancer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: T. Alpha 1, Epitalon, those are great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it gives you so much more as far as tools to help navigate and protect different areas the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I introduce you about the GHKCU?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because my girl in my community have our loving GHKCU.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I take it as a topical, I think it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I used it for scars, I used it for my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's some of them who love the injectables.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they see their skin is so much better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their hair is growing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you prescribing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Injectable or topical?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what do you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have both actually in my cream, the Char Omni cream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have, we have actually exesome product with GHK copper that people can use in topically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also have injectable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the injectable, I mean GHK copper is great for wound healing for lungs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for different internal organs and for the brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not just for skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've tried a little bit injectable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably should do more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the best for the hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, I think topical is great as a topical serum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what we have with different peptides and different herbs and different walls, as a stem cell component, the Charami, we've seen really, really good results with hair growth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it's a cream that's made for face, but we're going to create a hair formula using some of these incredible ingredients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even as a face cream, we've had people putting on their hair as seeing really good results.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they see any results with their eyebrows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I haven't had people try that yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of girls who say that their GHKC Ukraine is making their eyebrows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: thicker and fuller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see that with me, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't paid much attention to my eyebrows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyhow, so coming back to the menopause, can you reverse menopause?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is there a possibility?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If people are going on menopause, can you reverse it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish we could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Menopause, so menopause is just, if you're talking about reversing the symptoms, yes, if you're talking about delaying menopause, yes, in terms of reversing like if you already post menopause, technically, can you rejuvenate yourself back to ovulation or getting your periods back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, you get your periods back, but through HRT, but what
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fake bleed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a real bleeding, you know, ovulating, but there are there's somebody I interviewed and who does a very in rejuvenation and he says he's got 60 year olds who are trying to get pregnant and they are actually getting a period back and I don't think that they're ovulating, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's certainly people trying to do this, not that everyone should have a baby or want a baby or with their 60s, but okay, yes, this one client who wants to reverse menopause and and I think eventually we may even get there, but we we
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[SPEAKER_00]: We doubt yeah, so do we end do we really want to right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's the The signs and the symptoms yes, we want to reverse osteoporosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to reverse heart disease We want to reverse and we can diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can like all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's when it's it's very much due to the loss of our hormones and the thing is is if we want to
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[SPEAKER_00]: lower the risk of osteoporosis and having a fall in a fracture, which is the big deal, or having a heart attack due to heart disease, it's better to start home on therapy early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The research shows and everybody seems as much as they disagree on menopop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and techniques.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most people are agreeing that if you're going to get on HRT, it's better to do it earlier before your menopause if you can and not later because by then your bones have already become brittle, your heart has already the build up and so there are some risks but of taking HRT, not that I think everyone is most most women are a candidate, it's just how you do it
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[SPEAKER_00]: The guidelines, let's say, of most menopause societies around the world would say, don't give home on therapy at home and whose ten years postmenopause or age 60.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which I think is I've been taught through the Institute of Biomedical Medicine and Dr. David Rosen-Sweeten his whole program there that no, it's not true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get a woman whose 10 years post-menopause, or 60 years old, on-home on therapy, he believes that it's very beneficial, but you have to take a different approach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to do it differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why every woman who gets home on therapy needs to have the guidance of a qualified doctor
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[SPEAKER_00]: Taking hormones like that, I think is wrong, just like peptide.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to just take it like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to guidance and you want to make sure you find the right formula for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you do it the right way to increase the benefits and lower the risks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and talking about rejuvenating the ovaries, it reminds me of a study I saw using stem cell therapy on paraminopausal rats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is fascinating, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: These these rats are going on menopause and they give them young rats stem cells and look at what happens to the ovaries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually showed that the ovary size increased, the number of follicles increased, their estrogen level went up, and their FSH, LH went down, which is a good, you know, the right trend, and they have more pregnancies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty remarkable that the stem cells were
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a parry bit of parable and pauzorats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, this is the delaying of menopause, meaning you can rejuvenate this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, this is, this is stem cell at its best because you're getting like you said, you've been just doing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at a great conversation about stem cells, and they're new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it does remind me a little bit about those that research that's done with the rats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're, I can't remember the actual terminology where they were putting young rat blood into an old rat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, pair of glasses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also, yeah, is this kind of like plasma exchange?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plasma exchange.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were seeing the older rats getting younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So why not now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will it become Stanford practice?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's to be seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it certainly gives people hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That we have a way of making it healthier, making all the organs, including ovaries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and talking about what people experience and need to watch for during menopause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are there, I know some people, like you mentioned, didn't even have symptoms.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I define, you know, I don't have any problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when people are in menopause or during a transition, even if they're asymptomatic,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They still need to be cautious about certain things, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a pilot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, silent killers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm most worried about the asymptomatic woman, because she probably won't go to our doctor to have just a check-up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just to check your bones, just to check your heart, just to check your cardiovascular markers, your thyroid, these things, and you may be surprised when you get a fall in your fracture of bone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I want women to always be testing, measuring and assessing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great to test when you're at your best, or when you're feeling really great, or if you think everything's fine, and I don't want to scare people to, oh, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to go and find something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more about just knowing where you're at so that if you I would definitely if you're in your 20s and 30s measure your own hormones like what's normal for you because by the time you get to perimenopause or metapause, maybe
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[SPEAKER_00]: Certain number of astrodial is whether it's very high, very low, is normal for you when you're feeling your best, especially when you're trying to figure out home of therapy, like, oh, women, some women just need to tiny dose and some women need meggados and it'll be a little bit more clear if you know where your hormones at, when you're young and everything is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, just knowing where you're at when you're feeling good is important, but I do worry about the woman
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[SPEAKER_00]: everything's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you may be surprised when you get your first dexas scan at 65 and you're in heavy osteoporosis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are things that you, not that you can't reverse it, but just so much harder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be careful of those osteoporotic bones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're supposed to put impact, but not too much, lift heavy weight, but not too much, because you don't want to, it's, there's a, you just have to be a bit more cautious when in fact, if you knew ahead of time,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that you aren't going the bones are getting more brittle, then you can still do lots of impact and build strength and all that where you can reverse this and it's so fun to reverse a disease like to see those numbers, those charts and then you feel you feel really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that's the the the silent killer or or a heart attack or a stroke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was we tend to think that that strokes or heart attacks happen to older men and that's absolutely wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Women it's a number one killer for both men and women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: across the globe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something that women definitely need to be concerned about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so worried about breast cancer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, wait a second, what about what about heart disease?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not paying attention and women have different signs and symptoms of a heart attack than men.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are the same, but we'll have other ones and that's why women very often get turned back at the hospital when they're
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling lightheaded or dizzy a little bit nauseous and some of these are not the typical heart attack signs that a man would have and then she gets sent home and has a has a heart attack or a stroke.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's we need to I think get better with that and be bit more concerned about our heart and a heart health.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how do you suggest people go about it to improve their heart health?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a lot of things, so what's good for the heart is good for the brain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's keep that in mind too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're concerned about dementia and Alzheimer's, I'm a big fan of exercise and movement, whatever you can do, just get started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a magic bullet for so many things, not everything, but for many many things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: And somebody in the audience asked, like, what's the number one thing we can do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know we need to do a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if this one thing we should do to lower our risk of Alzheimer's, what should it be?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the lecture said exercise, we need to exercise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we know that's...
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[SPEAKER_00]: good for our heart as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is going to bring more blood flow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to bring more nutrients to the body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to we're going to have a healthier body weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and I think exercise is probably the one of one of the biggest things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But diet, you know, skin, here we go to a diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But diet is important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just diet agnostic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So figure out what works for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're all very deep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've lived around the world, travel in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people thriving on all kinds of diets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the diet's are
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[SPEAKER_00]: The stress component is key to cardiovascular health that I didn't realize until I took my master's in gerontology.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember this distinctively, this course on the Mind Body Connection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was woo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is USC a research based university.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I saw that in the curriculum, I was like, Mind Body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guess it's a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was my favorite class because we had a psychologist and then we had the physiologist and they explained what was going on in the brain and what was how the body was reacting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do remember the professor who was talking about author's melodic build up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, OK, wait a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Naomi, I'm trying to make the connection with cortisol and stress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, well, somebody was exercising like perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They ate the perfect diet and they're doing all this right things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, if there are really highly stressed,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is how big of an impact is that going to make on their heart health, and they said it trumps everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This professor said, look, it matters what you eat and your exercise is because this is such an important piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You will still get plaque build up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: even with the diet and exercise, you just need to get that stress component under control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that blew my mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think managing the stress, it's the piece, at least the women in my community, we taught a title that when I use health coaching and women into this and I talk about it, it's the one that we're most resistant to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, we can figure out diet and exercise, sleep even, but the stress thing, like we don't want, it's hard to work on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is really, really hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, but it is the one that makes the biggest impact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's worth paying attention to, I guess it cause involves mindset, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to change your mindset and change maybe how you go about your life, you know, as far as what you emphasize.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In your routine, if you're used to doing certain things or running on adrenaline or just the way you're, it's hard to change habits and routine and in the mindset like you said is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is is
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's it's all it's just hard work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What has been the most helpful for you to manage your stress?
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, breath work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I I was blown away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I learned breath work techniques from the oxygen advantage because I had a client I was teaching me
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[SPEAKER_00]: piece like I'd hardly knew anything about broth work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just poked up some techniques and she improved so fast with the little that I gave her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was blown away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, okay, we have a really powerful tool here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to understand the mechanisms of action and like why this is happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I took that course because it was very scientific and explained what was happening and I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was blown away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't because I wanted to be a breath work teacher or anything, but I thought, well, these will be great tools for myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can share with the community great, but it is such a powerful thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we can just harness the breath and understand it and control it and use it to our advantage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, the way out, what I teach is functional breathing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's how you breathe the other 23 hours outside of your yoga.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honey, I'm a typewriter, I'm like, how do we breathe throughout the day?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how we breathe throughout the day is how we breathe throughout the night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm even teaching how you breathe during exercise to enhance your performance, but also keep working on controlling the breath so that we get into this, we oxygenate our blood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When our blood is more oxygenated, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We bring more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: more blood flow more nutrients to the cells and to the tissues and of course a lot of things function better but you'll feel better and it's so powerful that literally in less than a minute you can just feel the calm if you were to measure it through an aura ring or
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[SPEAKER_00]: blood pressure cough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see your blood pressure going down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see the heart rate coming down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see your temperature go up because you're getting more blood flow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's really cool to measure these things with some of these little gadgets and devices that we have because you'll not only feel it but you see it and it's literally less than a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You talked off functional breathing, you know, of actually going about your days and breathing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you breathe?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if there's anything anyone remembers from this podcast interview is to please breathe through your nose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we are a society that breathes too much through the mouth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our mouth is made for talking and eating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe a few other things, but generally, we want to keep everything thinnows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an incredible filtration system that we have that our mouth doesn't have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so our nose is made for breathing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have little hairs to filter it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the temperature control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a cooling system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have mucosa layers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, this is part of our defense system.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine if you were to walk through crowd if your mouth is open while you're more likely to get some bacteria or virus or something in there and your nose is much harder to get into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a real cool defense system, but it is also bringing in more nitric oxide which we know is better for our blood vessels to open up and get more blood flow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to breathe through our nose as much as we cannot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying mouth breathing and whim-hoff and all that's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's for a purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's many different types of breath work and for a different purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the functional breathers and us, we want to breathe through the nose and we also want to breathe low and light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We normally have 12 breaths per minute, and that's a normal breath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're in a panic, of course, it's let's 17 to 20, 25.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much of a panic here in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we want to lower the breath to about six breaths per minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when some of the magic happens when we when we're able to breathe light and low and we don't need to
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[SPEAKER_00]: these big inhales and exhales, whether it's through your nose or not, we don't need that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we, we, we, we're trying to do so hemoglobin, which carries 98% of our oxygen is, is held holds on to oxygen really tight when we're breathing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: through our mouth, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, when our panic it holds on to it, but when we're relaxed and we breathe slowly and we start to build up carbon dioxide in the blood and we get that and we know when we get that little signal in our head going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I'd like to take a nice big inhale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when the magic happens and that's when he may blow him in a release as oxygen into the bloodstream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a visual of this when I was getting a PRP injection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned to you before that I had these injections.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You take out your blood and you spin in a centrifuge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember one time, and I've done PRP many times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One time, the doctor said, hey, so we're on my God, gone, come and see this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, what, what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is right when I was doing my, my breath work training.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was doing a lot of breath work for the last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, look at all the bubbles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what does that mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the music is an oxygen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess this is the best time to inject.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen your blood so oxygenated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, I wonder if that's because of the breath, I will never know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, I think that if it's true, then that was a pretty cool visual to see the oxygen in the blood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: being really so I think it's a it's a very powerful tool for and there's a there many benefits that happen when you breathe functionally and and when you can you're more relaxed and more calm and you're more at ease less cortisol let's stress less inflammation and it's something that we can do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: any time we need it, but we need to practice it on a daily basis.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As much as we can, it doesn't mean you carve out 10 minutes due breath work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it means you practice the breath work techniques while you're driving while you're standing in line at the market while you're sitting in the doctor's office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of picking up your phone, let's go, okay, how can we keep our breath low and light?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that means inhaling for, let's say four seconds and then exhaling for six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't
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[UNKNOWN]: 6.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just matters that the exhale is a little bit longer than the inhale.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where some of the magic happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when the parasympathetic, that rest and digest, that relaxation system is most activated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to keep it a little bit longer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's in a nutshell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for that, Tup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if managing stress is going to make the most difference, then, and if breathing is the cheapest, then the most effective tool sounds like, then definitely practice that breathing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can go on to YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You find YouTube videos, you can find apps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All of this is free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just type it in, and you'll get, you'll get, just get started, and anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say a woman is in their 30s, early 40s, is facing menopause at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your suggestion to them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can actually maximize the chance of them having a really smooth one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's smooth one and also delay if you're interested in delaying and then protect your future self.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the number one thing is to get educated and the problem with that is that when you start to educate yourself and go listen to podcasts or read a book or talk to people or doctors your friends, you're going to find a lot of conflicting information.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, that's the way it is and this is this is where the but the more you read the more you dig them and it's okay to hear conflicting sides it'll help guide you to figure out what's right for you is HRT right for you is it not you'll you'll get a sense of what it is but certainly one of the myths that has to be debunked is that HRT and estrogen causes cancer
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that came from the the women's health initiative study from 2003 and that's been debunked and okay now we have the FDA turning over the the black box warning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to understand that okay hormones we have our natural hormones we have to understand them and we have to understand that we're losing the no matter how healthy we are will eventually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go through menopause and that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we we just want to be able to make this transition smooth and you'll find out through reading and educating yourself and and there's plenty of information out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the second thing to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is if you are feeling some of these symptoms is to find a menopause doctor, find a doctor who's trained in menopause and there are many ways to do this and I have them my website here I can help it it's a guide like how to find your menopause doctor no matter where you are in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and usually talking to some of your friends, if you have a friend who is getting treated for menopause and she's happy with a doctor, well, what a great referral.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't have to too much because they're very few menopause-trained doctors, but we can find them and you don't need to see somebody in person to get help with menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do this through telemedicine, there's online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing is if you need to help with hormones, then you need to have a doctor in your state or in your country to make a prescription.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there are many things that a menopause doctor would do other than HRT, the help guide you through this transition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So know that there are solutions,
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[SPEAKER_00]: know that you do not need to suffer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Metapause is inevitable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wore a wheelchair there, but we don't need to suffer anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we thought we had to wait and buckle our way through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, there's so many other solutions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if HRT's not your thing, like everything that you're doing in your clinic is helping menopause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it is going to help joint pain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can help you sleep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can help you build muscle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can help you lose weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It can help you with anything you have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's their tools out there and and it's just whole world that they're just don't give up and they're their solutions and we can help help with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And definitely take care of your menopause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember by mom who is having all these mood swings and all these tough times and she was like I'm menopausing but she was like
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's set it for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible for us so I mean you are not just impacting your own health, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is your husband your your your your friends and your children and all these are really important?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So take care of it and and thank you Zora for sharing your wisdom and yeah, there's so many facets about this, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: we can take charge, we can do a lot to make our life easier and happier and for everybody else too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And don't take anything less than a hundred percent symptom relief.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, women will be like, oh, 50 percent better or 60.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can deal with a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you can, you can feel a hundred percent better, just don't, don't take less than a hundred percent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love hearing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Zara.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And how do people learn more from you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the easiest thing is go to hackmage.com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my website and all my social media is hackmage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can remember, if you can't remember hackmage, then Zara, the explorer, you'll find me on an online.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's well because you travel a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you said you interviewed people from how many countries about menopause?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I, I mean, gosh, I should calculate the number of countries, but I've had done over 300 interviews of recorded, for so I couldn't do many other more women who rejected me, but definitely I should I should count Tally how many how many countries, but I'm guessing
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you have those interviews on where do people find those interviews?
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[SPEAKER_00]: On Instagram and Facebook and YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're all there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zora, they explore it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much, Zora.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been such a pleasure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your work and thank you for your spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I had such a good time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening to this episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you enjoy the content.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if so, please rate and follow this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To reach me, you can contact uplift longevity center.
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