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Willpower is good, but often incomplete, or at
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least it runs out of gas pretty quickly. Discipline
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seems to be better, especially according to people
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like Jocko Willink, but also seems to fall flat
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for some people. But today, I want to talk about
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how identity is best. And depending on how you
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use it, it can either help you or hurt you. There
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are so many beliefs that we all have that tie
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into our identity. They can be core beliefs that
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are true or false beliefs that will poison our
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perceptions for decades to come. unless recognized,
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worked on, and eventually eliminated. But many
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of these things can follow us decades into adulthood.
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and potentially color all aspects of our lives
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and perceptions affecting our jobs, our marriages,
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our families, our broader relationships, and
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really anything else you can think of. So today,
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I'd like to talk about how willpower, discipline,
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and identity aren't different ways of accomplishing
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a goal, but rather different stages of building
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layered growth, and that they can work together
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to establish meaningful change. Let's get into
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it. Welcome to the Optimizing Beyond podcast.
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I'm Josh Negron, and this show is all about sharing
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lessons, ideas, and strategies that sharpen your
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thinking, strengthen your habits, and push you
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to grow beyond comfort zones. Let's dive in.
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All right, welcome back to the show. I'd like
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to talk about applying the good, better, best
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framework from episode 43. to some things we've
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discussed previously about discipline, habit
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formation, and finally, identity. And I think
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the identity piece can sometimes leave people
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a little confused because when you talk about
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willpower and discipline, they kind of know what
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that means. You use both of those to build habits,
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to try to create some sort of meaningful change
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in people's lives. And when you talk about identity,
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that doesn't always get associated in the same
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lines. My point that I'm making is that identity,
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is that final piece of that puzzle that can create
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the most meaningful change. Because I hear people
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talking about how they're frustrated that their
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willpower, sometimes motivation is used in its
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place. Motivation runs out. Discipline isn't
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always enough. Now, people like Jocko will say
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that discipline is for when your willpower fails
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you. And the way he's using that description
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of discipline is that you get in the discipline
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or in the habit of doing something right. So
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it's easier, like Glenn Lundy said in our episode,
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it's easier to do than to not do or the inverse.
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And so when you've established that habit over
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a significant period of time, which he says is
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67 days. then the discipline itself overcomes
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lack of willpower, lack of motivation. And that
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is definitely true. And that's why I think it
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is better than sheer motivation or willpower.
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But have you ever ran out of steam on a discipline
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as well? I know I have. And so that's where I
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believe the identity piece comes into play because
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it fits like a puzzle piece as to why you are
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the person that does certain things. So I want
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to make this very fundamentally clear that I
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don't think these have to... compete against
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one another. Sometimes I think people get the
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message that willpower and motivation are useless
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and that discipline is all you need or that an
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identity change in who you believe yourself to
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be or how you view yourself, that that is all
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you need. And I don't think that is the best
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view of those things. Going to a conference and
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getting amped and pumped up. has value. It typically
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creates the moment where people can recognize
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as a potential opportunity for an impetus for
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change. And so they can use those moments to
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change their habits, to start new things. And
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then those habits can create a potential discipline.
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If you're also recognizing that that might plug
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into a certain false belief or a view of yourself
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that you may have that may not be the healthiest,
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then it's those sources of fuel that we're looking
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at to change. with the goal of creating meaningful,
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lasting change in that ever slow growing optimization
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of getting better every day. Now, why do I think
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that motivation or willpower gets sold as the
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main currency of the day? There's so many rah
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-rah videos out there and channels built around
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just motivation. And I think that's because it
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does have value. It gets people pumped up. It
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gets people to that point of wanting the change,
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wanting that desire. of change the most and the
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fastest. And so like I said, those moments can
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be a helpful spark to start something in someone's
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desire for change in finding a new direction
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or finding enough energy to start digging into
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like the things we're going to talk about today.
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And that's why I think it's layered growth rather
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than just giving up motivation and willpower
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for discipline or for a change in identity. And
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then as far as discipline is concerned, I feel
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like we all know what it's like to try to be
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disciplined. Even that sentence should feel unsettling
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in a certain respect. And that's why some gurus
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or advisors, they hate the word try because it
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implies that you aren't going to follow through.
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And while I'm a recovering perfectionist and
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I know that I can't do everything perfect, sometimes
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words matter. The word try has this connotation
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to it. We all know what it feels like. And so
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when you try to white knuckle discipline, it
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sometimes falls short. And I would say that's
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where in the good, better, best framework, the
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identity piece is the best part and the most
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powerful part because it works both ways for
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the good and for the bad. So why wouldn't you
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want to learn how to leverage it to your advantage
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or at least undoing the bad things that are bringing
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you down? So how do you find out what these underlying
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scripts are, these core beliefs that you may
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have of yourself? Now, you may have some very
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obvious ones, which means you may not have to
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dig very far. So depending on how negative or
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dark your self -talk is, a lot of your core beliefs
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will likely be pretty evident if you have an
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aggressive self -dialogue like that. So I'm not
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enough. I'm not worthy. People are just going
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to leave me. Nothing I ever do is good enough.
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I'll never succeed. I shouldn't even try. I don't
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want to look stupid. Or like we talked about
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in the last episode, certain promises that you
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make to yourself that I will never put myself
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in this situation again, insert scenario that
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was traumatic, and then completely limit yourself
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from experiencing the bad and the good that are
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possible in a particular scenario, relationship,
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et cetera. So in the last episode, I talked about
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an exercise that my therapist had me do a couple
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of years ago of going through my top 10 earliest
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memories don't have to be bad, don't have to
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be good. Most of them ended up being bad or just
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not positive. When you're young, sometimes they
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seem pretty trivial, but they were impactful.
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That's why you remember them. That's kind of
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the point. And one of the ones that I mentioned
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is feeling embarrassment and shame for the first
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time. Now it was a completely silly thing when
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you look at it from an adult perspective, but
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it was a birthday party at one of the old school
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pizza huts. That's right. With the whole like
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red roof thing, you know, miss those. And we
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went in, I was super excited to give my friend
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a awesome birthday gift. It was an RC car. I
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didn't have an RC car and I thought that was
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the coolest thing in the world. So it was kind
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of neat to get the opportunity to give someone
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that I cared about such an awesome gift that
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I would want myself. And I walked up and I didn't.
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have any sort of social awareness of anything
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that was around me. And I walked that gift straight
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up. I didn't notice the gift table that they
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had to the side. And I walked straight up to
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the main table. There were tons of kids there.
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And I had this kind of mental expectation. Just
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walk away. And what do you do? You walk the gift
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up to the person, give it to them and watch them
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open it. And it's awesome. And it was quickly
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stopped by a, I'm assuming his parent. And she
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said, no, that's not where the gifts go. They
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go over on the table. And it was a moment. I
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don't remember how old I was, but it was pretty
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young. And I remember just feeling like everyone
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was looking at me because she made it kind of
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a big deal. I remember being very self -conscious
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for the first time that I could remember and
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felt silly, stupid, embarrassed, like I somehow
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should have known. That's kind of how she was
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talking to me. And so that created a natural
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script of hesitation, of anxiety when I'm not
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sure what to do, where to go, entering a new
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building, for example. All of those things carried
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through multiple decades past, wanting to be
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overly prepared. Because clearly I should have
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known something. I should have gotten some sort
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of memo way back then before cell phones, email,
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any of that sort of thing. Maybe my parents didn't
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relay to me the postcard that they received on
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the proper instructions of the birthday party.
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I don't even know if that was a thing. It probably
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wasn't. But I carried with me the expectation
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that I somehow missed something. And if I hadn't,
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I would have potentially avoided that scenario.
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And I could avoid those kinds of scenarios in
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the future. That's a seemingly silly, lighthearted
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example, and it's something I can laugh about
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now because I have looked back and recognized
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that moment is the root of what caused that experience
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and then that hesitation, that anxiety, and all
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those things attached to it at that point. But
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that created a very core definition. in a mode
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of operating that until I recognized it and then
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started dissecting it, I was really powerless
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to its effects that were holding me back in multiple
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ways. And this is naturally one main reason why
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so many therapists go back to when you were young,
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because a lot of these things, these things that
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we learned, whether we learned them correctly
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or incorrectly, shape how we view the world and
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how we operate within it. And so they do a lot
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of that work to try to find out Those earliest
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experiences, those earliest memories, again,
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because they were probably formative. And you
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might be blessed and have a list of a lot of
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great things that you remember that taught you
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really good foundational, secure lessons that
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shaped a lot of positive beliefs of yourself.
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That's awesome. For the rest of us, like I said,
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most of the 10 are not very positive. And that's
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okay. We can go back, we can look, and we can
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start to dig and find some threads. that have
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some consistency and fit inside of our negative
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self -talk or the things that we believe about
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ourselves or others and the perception that we
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have in our relationships, for example. These
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kinds of things are very, very common and typical,
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which is, again, why therapists get a lot of
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mileage of helping you in looking at those things.
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And what's really cool when you recognize these
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scripts, I remember going through that exercise,
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recognizing that memory, realizing how it potentially
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shaped certain ways I viewed the world. and how
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I engaged with it, and ultimately, I would say,
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likely robbed me of opportunity or experiencing
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certain things because I was too anxious or uncertain
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about said experience or interaction or location,
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and so the decision was often not to participate
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or to find an excuse and eventually miss out.
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And so I started recognizing that that was a
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pattern that had followed me all the way into
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my 30s. And after you recognize a certain false
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belief, you can really start to reverse engineer
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it. You can recognize it when it's happening
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and you can say, no, it's all good. It's a new
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building. I don't know where to go. I'll just
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ask somebody. And you can really take away a
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lot of the power that those scripts actually
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have when even you just recognize them. Like
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that is step one. It's a cliche for a reason.
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Recognizing you have a problem is the first step.
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And I would say it's similar to the phenomenon
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when you buy a certain make and model of a car,
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you start seeing those things everywhere. So
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when you recognize a pattern like this, a false
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belief like this, a thing that you think often
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that colors your perceptions and reality, you
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start to realize, oh, there it is again. There
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it is again. Oh my gosh. And that can start to
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really help you in combating it. Now, sometimes
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I get asked, how do I know this is something
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I need to fix? What if it's something that is
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true? Well, it could be. And this is sometimes
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where the help of another person is useful. I
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said at the end of the last episode, this is
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where a professional sometimes comes in handy
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because some of the lessons that we've learned
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through our pasts come out of very real experiences
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that happened. And sometimes we need the help
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of a professional to help us understand what
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pieces of truth need to apply broadly to everything
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versus, yes, this is a true thing that you need
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to be careful of or be aware of in your adult
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life in these circumstances. Here's why it doesn't
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apply to everything. This also applies to these
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vows or promises that we make of ourselves to
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never allow ourselves to be in these situations
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ever again. If that limits you from having any
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meaningful relationship, that's too broad of
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an application. See where I'm going with that?
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So sometimes a professional can come alongside
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because maybe we don't feel in step one or two,
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we don't feel like we can make that judgment
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call. Like, how do I know where this rule stops,
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where this vow is appropriate and where it's
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too? far and sometimes a professional can come
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alongside who has experience with those kinds
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of things and can can kind of really define where
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the safety needs to be and where it's okay to
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let those promises or those standards go because
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they don't belong there so at this point you
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probably have some things rattling around in
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your brain if you don't some common ones that
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i wrote down were for some people they have words
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that were spoken over them by a coach a parent
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a teacher Now, sometimes you can hear those entrepreneurs
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tell like a teacher said something really encouraging
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or powerful and it just kind of was the impetus
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for everything. Noice. For others, it's the opposite.
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You'll never amount to anything. You'll never
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become anything. Whatever those things that those
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people taught us and those words that were spoken
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over us. And like the episode I had with Greg
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Hall with the power of words, those kinds of
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things fuel people in certain ways and to have
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certain beliefs about themselves. Sometimes it
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can cause people to work really hard, but other
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times it can cause people to never try hard,
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not feel like they're qualified, always count
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themselves out, and all these other things. Maybe
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it's an early failure. something in business
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or a relationship or a trauma that occurred that
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got filed away and tied into that person's identity.
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I'm a failure because this failed, because I
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couldn't accomplish X. And so in that, rather
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than failing forward, that failure defined them
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and became a part of their identity. Sometimes
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it can be a simple philosophy like the idea of
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scarcity versus growth mindset, where scarcity
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says there's... limited resources of anything
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out there. And because of that, in order to gain
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something, you have to take it away from someone
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else or vice versa. If someone has something
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that they took it away from someone else. And
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so that can really affect you in the way you
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view success, in the way you view even attention
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or love, that these transactions are limited
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and they're scarce and can really start to distort
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some perceptions. And this is really where I
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want to bring in Glenn Lundy's philosophy of
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controlling the second thought is how he's coined
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it and the basic premise is that you cannot control
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most of the time your first thought and we all
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know we think some mean things about ourselves
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and others and so with those first thoughts they
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can sometimes make us feel pretty bad Like, man,
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I'm a terrible person. If only people knew the
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things I was thinking, the judgy things I was
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thinking when I saw people, you know, like when
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you go to Walmart or whatever. And so he said,
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don't feel guilty about the first thought. We
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all have crazy first thoughts. Instead. Just
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put the effort in controlling the second thought,
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which arguably could be labeled as the response.
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Not a reaction, but the response. You choosing
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how you want to respond and how you want to think.
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So a lighthearted example, you see someone at
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Walmart who's comfortable wearing their pajamas
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to the store. Your first thought may be a very
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judgy one that we won't say right now. And instead
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of being harsh with yourself and thinking, shame
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on me, you don't waste any of that effort and
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you just have a second thought of giving them.
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the benefit of the doubt or just not caring enough
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to be judgy. This can function on its own without
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applying to a broader core belief, but I love
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it because it can also plug into this. So you
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can take the first thought, second thought principle
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and apply it to pretty much anything in isolated
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thoughts that you may have that you may want
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to change, which is super useful. But specifically
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in this conversation, you can use it as you're
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starting to recognize that car that you just
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bought per se in the false belief that we're
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trying to address. The goal isn't to focus on
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eliminating that false belief at first. It's
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more of, is there a way we can reforge it and
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control the second thought, your response? to
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that first thought. And in scenarios like this,
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a lot of times the first thought is part of the
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limbic response. And if you're like, I don't
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know what that is, that's the system responsible
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for fight or flight. And so in those instances,
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that's exactly a reaction, not a response. And
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a lot of times it's not the best, especially
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when it's connected to the things we talked about
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earlier. So this is where taking a pause, breath
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work is super helpful. Deep breaths and pattern
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breathing is... the easiest way to lower your
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heart rate and to get you out of a limbic response,
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get you out of fight or flight so that you can
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actually use the front part of your brain, your
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prefrontal cortex, which is very useful in more
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rational decision -making and allows you to choose
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a response, a second thought. to whatever you're
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facing. Now, like most of the things we talk
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about on this show, a lot of this is progressive
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and learned. When I was working on things like
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negative self -talk and attacking my false beliefs
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that I was identifying. A lot of times the number,
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the total count of first thoughts that I wanted
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to change were numerous and seemingly overwhelming.
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Like how am I ever going to tackle all of these
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things? This is crazy. And so the distance sometimes
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between the first and second thought were huge.
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And my second thoughts weren't always much better
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than the first thoughts, at least initially.
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And so this is kind of a habitual daily. progression
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into recognizing those things, starting to see
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what maybe we would like to think or our responses
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would like to be. and what our second thoughts
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need to be in those progressions. So as you're
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going through that, that is the next step in
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trying to identify the future paths that you
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would like to go. Now, some people might ask,
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what cue do you use to do this? And I think really
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that illustration of recognizing the cars everywhere
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is really what is useful in this scenario. I
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try to find one or two things that I'm working
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on actively. It's a little overwhelming to try
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to tackle every... So there is usually only one
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or two of them I'm working on at a time. And
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when I do that, it starts to become the car that
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I see everywhere. And then the recognition is
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the number one. critical part, which is why we
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talked about it first, seeing it, recognizing
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it. And then once you start seeing it everywhere,
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start to realize, okay, given this specific circumstance,
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because it's all unique to everyone, what is
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my preferred response? What is my preferred thought
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instead of this one? And so that sounds a little
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bit like up in the sky. You're like, how do I
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get practical about this? Or do you have specific
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examples? What does this look like? And it is,
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it is all dependent on what that first thought
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is, what the root false belief potentially is.
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And so it can be something as simple as the first
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thought. You see someone walking in late to a
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meeting and you assume maybe you're their boss
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or their colleague and you assume your initial
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first thought is like, man, they don't really
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care about being punctual at all. What in the
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world? And the second thought might incorporate
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some things like the law of positive intent that
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we've talked about before, where you give people
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the benefit of the doubt, where you say, well,
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hang on, I don't know if they were caught up
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by a customer on the way to the meeting. And
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I would rather them take care of that guest rather
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than say, hey, I don't want to be late to a meeting.
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I can't help you right now. That's crazy. And
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so using the law of positive intent, being curious,
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not judgmental, to borrow a Ted Lasso phrase.
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We just need to insert a Ted Lasso quote into
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every episode. That'd be great. So, so important
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to be curious, ask questions before making assumptions.
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The appropriate response is sometimes dependent
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on the circumstance, the situation that you're
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trying to battle, or the false belief that you're
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trying to reverse. So that leads us to the next
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step, which is what I will label as the replacement
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principle. So often it's described that when
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you're trying to rewire your brain, especially
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patterns that have followed you around for decades,
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you can't just subtract. That leaves an empty
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void. The brain doesn't like that. You typically
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have a lot of issues with things you're trying
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to correct mentally if you're just trying to
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subtract and you don't put anything else in there.
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And that's where the replacement principle comes
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into play, where if you're looking to remove
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something or take a false belief out, what positive
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belief are you putting in its place? Sometimes
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it's as easy as replacing whatever the inverse,
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whatever the opposite is of the false belief.
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So if you feel like you're not enough or... nothing
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you ever do is good enough. I mean, you're really
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just adjusting those statements to be more truthful,
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to be more honest than the garbage that you're
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saying to yourself. An exercise that I did when
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I didn't like my negative self -talk was in addition
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to what I've shared before, I would enlist my
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friends to catch me and yell at me when they
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heard me say things out loud. And then me committing
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to even myself, anytime I said anything out loud,
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I would verbally say, no, that's not true. And
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then I would say, whatever the truth was that
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applied to that specific statement. It kind of
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plugs into the difference between guilt and shame.
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Like guilt says I did bad. Shame says I am bad.
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So trying to remove those negative statements
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from being identity shame -based statements and
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moving them more at least into the guilt column.
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Like, hey, you messed up. You made a mistake.
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You failed. That doesn't mean you're a bad person.
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So shifting it out of the shame. tar pit and
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at least shifting it into you know if you do
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recognize you did make a mistake that's okay
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to do but you don't need to heap on the identity
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statements on top of that So there is a verbal
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component to this that I think has power. We
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talked about on the last episode how writing
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things down has power and has potential unlocking
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power to processing different things in different
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hemispheres. Like I said then, I don't know all
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the brain science about handwriting, those kinds
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of things, but the verbal spoken word also has
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tremendous power. If you're a person of faith,
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this probably lights you up in the brain in multiple
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ways and you're like, yes. If you're not, that's
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okay. I think most people believe that the spoken
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word has some sort of influence and power. And
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so if that's true, if that even has a possibility
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of being true, then speaking the truth, speaking
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the antidote, if you will, to the false belief,
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to the things that we're trying to change has
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a lot of power. Now you can't always do that
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in like, if you're having a conflict or you're
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in a conversation with somebody, they're going
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to think you're crazy and having all these like,
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no. That's not true. So you're going to have
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to kind of judge when those moments are appropriate.
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Sometimes maybe you do it in your inner voice,
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but catching those things out loud and saying
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the corrective statements for me was really helpful
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when I was addressing a lot of this negative
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dialogue that was following me around. Now I'll
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say this, when you first start addressing the
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negative self -talk and you start trying the
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replacement principle and trying to speak truth,
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there's a couple of ways that I've done it to
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add additional. bullets to the magazine, if you
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will, to help me here. One of them was asking
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people that I trusted in my life to list specific
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ways or have them text me or write an email or
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send a voice memo on how they viewed me. Because
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my perception was, if the way I look at myself
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is broken, then help me see myself through your
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eyes, which I also trust. And so I wanted to
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see more than from one person because it's easy
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to dismiss when one person compliments you. right?
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So if your spouse says, you know, you're great.
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I love you. You're awesome. You're like, yeah,
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I mean, you're kind of supposed to say that,
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right? So it's easy to dismiss the onesie twosies.
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And so the goal was I had, I think it was, I
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think I messaged 20 people and 12 to 15 gave
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me really detailed responses that were very powerful.
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And then I just had like Siri read them to me
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every day. It was crazy. And so that was super
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powerful. I got to use other people's words and
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speak them over me. And I, you know, even put
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those in AI and distilled certain themes. Like
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people said similar things. And so it's like,
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what is the main things that they're saying?
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What are the main themes that are related to
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me and how they view me? Again, super, super
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powerful. And it equipped me with some horsepower
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to battle these negative beliefs with truth.
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And I was able to replace those. And I could
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do those verbally. I could handwrite them. And
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I think listening to those out loud while Siri
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was reading them also had an added layer of benefit
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there too. So this is where it gets pretty practical.
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I highly encourage people to just keep this up.
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Keep finding things that you can reverse and
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speak truth into, replace, say out loud, identify
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and repeat. Just keep doing it. Because when
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you identify aspects of your identity that aren't
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optimal and you can begin to reverse engineer
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and become the person that is fill in the blank,
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that is an entirely different way of getting
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things done. Discipline still has its place.
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Willpower and motivation still have their place.
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There can be a tremendous amount of freedom that
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you can find from many things when you start
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reverse engineering. And the way I know that
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this works is that that's how you have a lot
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of your false beliefs to begin with. All those
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things we mentioned at the beginning of the episode
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that are common of people believing about themselves
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are true today because of an identity -based
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pattern of thinking that has just been repeated
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excessively over time. So we can leverage that
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same mechanism to our advantage by doing the
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opposite of identifying things that we want to
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remove and replacing them with things that we
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do want there and getting the reps in. Now, this
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is just like what James Clear talks about in
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Atomic Habits. People ask, how many days does
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it take to establish a habit? And Glenn Lundy
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would say, with one rep a day, 67 days, sure.
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You may have heard 21. There's all sorts of combination,
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but anything between 21 and 67, but that's one
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rep a day. James Clear also talks about in his
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book about how you can create meaningful change
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by just getting meaningful reps. So sometimes,
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depending on the habit, this is part of that,
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I wouldn't recommend working out seven times
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a day to get healthy. Not a good idea. This is
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something that you could do multiple times a
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day. How many times do you talk crap on yourself?
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I know for me, it was a ton. So I got a bunch
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of reps in every single day. So by the end of
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three weeks, it was meaningful if I kept identifying,
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replacing, saying out loud, and repeating over
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and over. You will be surprised how fast that
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you can start to reverse engineer some of this
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stuff. One example is the fear of abandonment.
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There's plenty of people who have that false
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belief and they apply that in multiple different
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ways in their relationships. But one way can
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be in avoiding conflict or even how they view
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it in a relationship. So they may avoid conflict,
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for example, because they feel like if I engage
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in this conflict, then they'll leave me. For
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others, it could be, and we talked about this
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many episodes ago, but doing all the right things
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for the wrong reasons, over -serving, over -loving
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people because you're afraid they're going to
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leave you if you don't do that. That is, all
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those things are extremely common, and I speak
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from those from experience as well. So in those
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things, when you have a conflict and you start
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to feel anxious about, oh my gosh, if I keep
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going with this, they're going to whatever, you
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can pause, breathe, and speak truth to that.
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No, healthy relationships can have conflict,
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they can endure conflict, and they can survive
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conflict. In fact, if iron sharpens iron, that
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means there has to be friction. And if sparks
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aren't flying, iron's not getting sharpened,
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to quote the Live Free podcast. Shout out, guys.
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So this is the exact pattern that I want you
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to recognize. Recognize it in the moment. You
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can do some breathing if that is necessary, especially
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in that conflict example. Fight or flight's going
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to be going crazy. And then speaking that truth
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and then continuing through rather than giving
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up or somehow escaping the situation. Now, sometimes
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those reps are going to be high effort and high
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yield. Other times, they're going to be micro
00:29:17.859 --> 00:29:21.109
wins, and that's okay. Remember, a lot of optimization
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is micro -wins, and that's okay. That builds
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that foundation of growth over time, and that
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compound growth is so powerful. The last thing
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we'll say about the replacement principle is
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think about the concept of when someone is trying
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to get healthier, getting fitter, and a lot of
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times taking the fad diet route or now the route
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of pharmaceuticals can sometimes be tricky because
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if they don't do it the... old -fashioned way,
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quote -unquote, then sometimes what is critiqued
00:29:52.009 --> 00:29:55.230
is that they may not have learned the lifestyle
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skills in order to equip them to become the person
00:29:58.910 --> 00:30:03.470
that is now someone that values movement or sweating
00:30:03.470 --> 00:30:06.849
every day, as well as having their nutrition
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dialed in to a point where their health doesn't
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suffer. And sometimes getting to a destination
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or a goal faster can sometimes hinder those things.
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So we've all seen those people who go on the
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diet, they lose the weight. And once they get
00:30:20.930 --> 00:30:24.210
off the diet, the diet didn't teach them a lifestyle
00:30:24.210 --> 00:30:27.349
of eating better. It taught them how to eat to
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get to their goal. Well, once they reach their
00:30:29.029 --> 00:30:31.650
goal, what now? That diet sucked. They're not
00:30:31.650 --> 00:30:33.970
going to keep doing it. And so then what happens?
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They gain all the weight back. Pharmaceuticals,
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I could say the same thing. So certain pharmaceuticals,
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you can take them. You can still eat whatever
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you want. You don't have to sweat every day.
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You can certainly do those things and probably
00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:46.349
get to your goal even faster. But then at that
00:30:46.349 --> 00:30:50.009
point, once that's over, if someone hasn't established
00:30:50.009 --> 00:30:54.079
those habits or better yet, become the person
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.599
that eats better and moves or sweats every day,
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.940
then they will just regress. And it's the same
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thing that applies to all these things. If we're
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not replacing those things with something positive,
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.019
with something constructive, with something better,
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.220
then it can be really challenging to push those
00:31:10.220 --> 00:31:11.960
things out because you're not pushing it out
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:13.940
with something to take its place. So I know it's
00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:15.980
cheesy to people say it's the journey, not the
00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:18.480
destination, but in certain aspects, that's kind
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:19.920
of what we're talking about. So what kind of
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.380
people is this really for? I would say this is
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for anyone who's looking to change who they are
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.119
in relation to what they do. If you don't like
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:30.440
what you do, you can certainly stop doing or
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.819
start doing different things. But oftentimes,
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.180
identity is what feeds beliefs and behavior.
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And so if you're just doing behavior management,
00:31:39.190 --> 00:31:42.589
that's not enough. Ask any group counselor or
00:31:42.589 --> 00:31:45.309
go to any addiction program and they will discuss
00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:48.990
this on purpose because those kinds of behaviors
00:31:48.990 --> 00:31:52.890
are ones that are fed by more underlying things.
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Typically, think of the identity piece as the
00:31:55.990 --> 00:31:58.390
iceberg. Those false beliefs, those things that
00:31:58.390 --> 00:32:01.509
come from usually trauma, those define people
00:32:01.509 --> 00:32:04.069
and cause those behaviors. So behavior management
00:32:04.069 --> 00:32:07.309
really falls short. willpower and discipline
00:32:07.309 --> 00:32:10.029
are just not enough to overcome. You really have
00:32:10.029 --> 00:32:13.650
to engage in transformation in order to see lasting
00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:16.089
results. And that's what we're after when we're
00:32:16.089 --> 00:32:18.569
optimizing. So step one is recognizing that,
00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:20.950
trying to find that automobile that you're going
00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:23.230
to start to spot everywhere. The second step
00:32:23.230 --> 00:32:26.809
is to find a way that you can, once you see that
00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:29.329
first thought that you don't want, how can you
00:32:29.329 --> 00:32:31.869
replace it with the second thought, one that
00:32:31.869 --> 00:32:34.269
is more constructive, one that is more powerful.
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.880
And that's leveraging the replacement principle.
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.839
And sometimes it's as simple as an opposite thought
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.859
or one that's a better thought, like giving someone
00:32:42.859 --> 00:32:44.680
the benefit of the doubt or things like that.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.299
Other times it really digs into who you are and
00:32:48.299 --> 00:32:51.200
in your identity. And so when the fear of abandonment...
00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:55.720
wants to influence how you engage in a hard conversation
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.519
with somebody, you can take a pause, take a moment,
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.279
replace that with truth and recognize that, no,
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.500
that's not what this is. This relationship can
00:33:03.500 --> 00:33:06.319
stand this disagreement, this conflict, and I
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.619
can see it through. And in fact, it's arguable
00:33:08.619 --> 00:33:11.200
it will be stronger because you engaged in it.
00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.880
And you just start doing those things on a loop,
00:33:13.900 --> 00:33:17.539
on repeat, and you can start to see Those false
00:33:17.539 --> 00:33:21.440
beliefs lose power because when you follow through
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.059
with actually, for example, having that conflict
00:33:24.059 --> 00:33:26.599
and having those disagreements or hard conversations
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.799
and your relationships don't fall apart, people
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.220
don't leave you, and the lie doesn't come true,
00:33:33.299 --> 00:33:35.000
then you're like, oh man, this is something.
00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:37.460
It reinforces it. in the other way. Again, we're
00:33:37.460 --> 00:33:40.279
leveraging that same principle with time on that
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.740
end. So trying to get those reps in, trying to
00:33:42.740 --> 00:33:45.960
accelerate that path the other way has a tremendous
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.900
amount of power in the inverse. So you're like,
00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:50.680
okay, I've got the thing. I know what I want
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.369
to do. Now what? It's like, well, now we're going
00:33:53.369 --> 00:33:55.910
to want to recognize it. So first step is that
00:33:55.910 --> 00:33:57.730
automobile, right? What's the car we're going
00:33:57.730 --> 00:34:00.430
to spot everywhere? Pick it, find it and leverage
00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:03.289
those different tools. Write it down, say it
00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.769
out loud and know what you want to attack. And
00:34:05.769 --> 00:34:08.239
then. find out what the truth is. If it's not
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.519
very obvious to you, depending on what it is,
00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:13.219
maybe get with someone you trust or even with
00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:15.559
a licensed professional and say, okay, this is
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.659
kind of what I'm thinking. I have no idea what
00:34:18.659 --> 00:34:21.440
a good replacement would be for this. What do
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.860
you think? What's a better thought? What's a
00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:26.579
second thought for this? And then whatever that
00:34:26.579 --> 00:34:28.579
is, write it down, say it out loud. And then
00:34:28.579 --> 00:34:31.719
anytime you see that car, you're writing and
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.400
or saying in your mind, preferably out loud if
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.500
you can, just trying to leverage as many avenues
00:34:36.500 --> 00:34:39.099
as you can to make the reps as effective as possible.
00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:42.199
The more effective the rep and the more reps
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.820
compounds the most growth. So why wouldn't you
00:34:44.820 --> 00:34:46.639
try to leverage as much as you can? Of course.
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.380
So essentially we're looking for the highest
00:34:48.380 --> 00:34:51.059
quality reps. Now reps matter. I'd rather you
00:34:51.059 --> 00:34:53.119
get reps no matter what, but anything you can
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.800
do to make those reps more high quality as much
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.070
as you can. just helps you get to your goal faster.
00:34:58.190 --> 00:35:00.929
One example might be that I used to say I'm bad
00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:04.030
with money. Now, when I catch it, I say I'm someone
00:35:04.030 --> 00:35:06.429
who's learning how to manage money well. And
00:35:06.429 --> 00:35:08.570
then you actually have the energy to look at
00:35:08.570 --> 00:35:10.250
your budget because you're looking at yourself
00:35:10.250 --> 00:35:13.030
differently and you're not ignoring your finances
00:35:13.030 --> 00:35:14.750
because you're like, well, I'm bad at money anyway,
00:35:14.809 --> 00:35:16.510
so why do I even look at it? Why am I gonna try
00:35:16.510 --> 00:35:18.449
a budget? I can't do that. So when you start
00:35:18.449 --> 00:35:20.489
changing your identity, you also start opening
00:35:20.489 --> 00:35:23.250
possibilities of like, well, I'm learning, so
00:35:23.250 --> 00:35:25.610
I'm gonna try. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get. dry.
00:35:25.710 --> 00:35:27.750
I'm going to give it a fair shot. I am learning
00:35:27.750 --> 00:35:31.590
and learning allows for not being perfect and
00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:33.869
to get those reps in, that safety to get better.
00:35:33.949 --> 00:35:35.889
So good luck catching those things. If there's
00:35:35.889 --> 00:35:38.110
certain things that you want to share about the
00:35:38.110 --> 00:35:40.489
false beliefs that you're battling with or the
00:35:40.489 --> 00:35:42.630
true things that you've established, let me know
00:35:42.630 --> 00:35:44.429
in the comments. I'd love to know and start getting
00:35:44.429 --> 00:35:47.130
those reps in. You've got this. Thanks for listening
00:35:47.130 --> 00:35:49.449
to the Optimizing Beyond podcast. Remember, growth
00:35:49.449 --> 00:35:52.250
happens when you take action. So subscribe, share
00:35:52.250 --> 00:35:54.289
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00:35:54.289 --> 00:35:55.969
what you learned into practice. Because as we
00:35:55.969 --> 00:35:58.730
know, daily anything changes everything.