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Hello and welcome, my valued listeners, to another episode of Living in Your Power.
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I'm your host, Dr. Marlene Greenleaf, and today is a special one.
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We are wrapping up our March series on Women Who Rise, Strength,
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Leadership, and Empowerment.
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And I couldn't think of a better way to close this with a meaningful conversation
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with a woman who truly embodies this theme.
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Today, I'm joined by Charity McDonald, founder of the CRWN Institute,
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a keynote speaker, and a top leadership voice on LinkedIn.
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She's an award-winning consultant who helps high achievers step into their full
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value using her crown model of self-leadership framework.
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I have had the pleasure of witnessing her rise, and today, she's here to share
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her journey and insights with you.
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So Charity, welcome to the podcast and you are my first in-person interview I'm having.
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So this is exciting for me. I hope it's exciting for you too.
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It is. Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Marlene.
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Wow, I'm excited to be here and I'm really appreciative of you inviting me to
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speak with you today. So I look forward to the conversation.
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Yes, it is my pleasure. Okay, so let's go ahead and get started.
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Because we said we were going to keep it to a limited time. So we are going to dive right in.
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So would you start by sharing a little bit about your journey and what you do?
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Absolutely. So the work I do is primarily career and life transition.
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So I support leaders at all levels, really.
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But I would say the journey for myself, it actually started,
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I worked in higher education, and I did a lot of program development work.
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So supporting different organizations, including the School of Management and
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Labor Relations and their programs that they had around executive and professional
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education. It kind of gave me insight into the consulting space.
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And I actually had a stint as a recruiter and I found it wasn't necessarily,
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you know, a fit for me fully. So I did like helping people still.
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So I decided to volunteer.
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I volunteered as a career coach. So I supported people that were long-term unemployed
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who had struggles and potential issues with age discrimination.
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So I was supporting long-term unemployed professionals who were mostly people
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who were mid to senior professionals.
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So that was for six years. So from 2016 to about 2022, I volunteered while simultaneously
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working in healthcare and in other areas.
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And then, you know, I decided that I wanted to actually help people through
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a business. So that's kind of what started Crown Institute, which is the name.
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So Crown Institute is about basically helping people to receive a raise,
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not just in their pay, but their peace and personal power.
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So I enjoy helping people.
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I've had the privilege of helping over 330 professionals post pandemic.
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To move into their next level with their careers.
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And where I am now is I'm happy to be speaking with you and also dedicate more
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time to speaking opportunities and dealing with corporate clients.
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Oh, I love that. But is CROWN an acronym or is it just CROWN?
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It actually is an acronym. And you are only the second person asking me that.
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With all the podcasts and interviews I've done, I believe you are the second person asking me this.
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And yes, it is an acronym that stands for Creating and Receiving Wealth Now.
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That's what it actually means for. I love that
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I love that I absolutely love that yes brown
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okay I'm sorry I'm getting excited okay let's
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let's move on but that's good that's a very varied career that you've had and
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I love how you married your experience to move to where you are right now because
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it's like you know you said you moved on to recruiting you didn't like it but
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yet still you saw the need to help people so you're like, okay,
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I'm not going to do the recruiting, but instead I'm going to add this extension
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where I can still continue to help people.
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So that for me is valuable that you're still grounded and you still want to
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help people using the tools and the knowledge that you have gained over your career.
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So kudos to you.
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Thank you so much. Okay.
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Okay. So you and I, we've talked before about the power of self-leadership.
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And I'd love for you to share, what did that concept mean to you when you first heard it?
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And how has it evolved for you since?
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So this is definitely a full circle moment, Dr.
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Mylene, because I think the first time I ever heard of self-leadership in the way, you know, that.
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It's known great, you know, for professionals was actually from you.
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So that was the first time I heard that particular word. I've heard similar
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words that are kind of related, but it's not quite the same.
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For me, I was like, wow, what is that?
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You know, and I just saw it as the ability to lead yourself,
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you know, your personal and professional endeavors. I also saw it as like growing
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in yourself skills and your abilities to take radical responsibility for where you want to be in life.
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So that's how I took it. And I truly believe in the power of self-leadership.
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Since that time that you mentioned it, I was just like on a quest of,
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okay, I want to learn more about this self-leadership and how do I develop that within myself?
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And also how can I use that to help my clients as well? So I'm very grateful
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for you sharing that with me.
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And also it has evolved. I've actually created a framework that I use for my
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clients that it encompasses the aspects of self-leadership using an acronym with, you know, CROWN.
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That is the acronym for the framework. So it has really evolved.
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I've really had a lot of great opportunities to actually speak to self-leadership
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for other people to understand it who are not familiar with the term because
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it's not that popular of a term.
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And we hear all kinds of other words that are very similar, like self-management
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or self-discipline, self-determination, self-mastery.
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Those might be more common, but self-leadership, I truly believe in the power
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of that, that if you're not able to lead yourself, how are you able to lead other people?
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So I appreciate you sharing that with me.
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No, absolutely. Because it's exactly as you said, it's not a concept that people
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really understand and they incorporate it into others.
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Like you're saying, hey, you know, if you want to be an emphatic leader,
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that they think is self-leadership. But it's not because, you know,
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we understand that great leadership is built upon the foundation of self-leadership.
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Because as you said, if you don't know who you are as a person, how can you lead others?
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Because that's what leadership is. It's about leading others.
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You know, for me, self-leadership, like you said, is taking ownership for your
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life and consciously shaping your journey, which is what you're doing.
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And you're helping your clients also to understand this and to help them shape themselves.
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So, you know, I love self-leadership and I think it's such an important concept
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that we share and teach others, especially on their leadership journey,
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because like we discussed,
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it helps you direct your thoughts, your behaviors, and your actions.
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And also it by doing so will help
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you achieve your desired goals so it is something that we
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really need to I don't want to say hammer in but we do we do need to hammer
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into others especially those who are thrown into leadership roles it's like
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okay what about you what do you know about yourself how can who are you and
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a lot of times I get this little blank stare like.
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What do you mean you know i'm a leader okay well how are you how are you a leader
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what do you know about yourself so that you can lead others so it's truly a
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concept that we really need to enlighten people more about so i am so excited
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to know that you've taken this concept and you have created,
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a framework to help not just yourself because
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you know you learned it and you and you used it for yourself but you're using
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also to help others you know especially your clients so keep doing that and
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let's keep getting this message out about self-leadership because it's an important
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tool to help you to become a great leader so thank you for doing that so our next question,
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now it says now you speak so powerfully about taking ownership of your growth
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you know through leadership.
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Can you share with us a time you had to lead yourself through a difficult situation
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or decision and what did that look like for you in action?
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Yes, I love this question because I do have some recent examples where that happened.
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With the power of LinkedIn, you know, I have different people reach out to me
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from so many different, you know, job fields and industries.
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And I was actually invited to host an event.
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So it was a sales and management hiring event that I was asked to not only host,
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but also present. and I decided that what I would do to show more value throughout
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the event is I would also offer laser coaching for those who were interested.
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I had my own table at the event and it was an event that had other employers
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there. So I have to make sure things are organized and prepared.
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The thing about it is the time. So for me, sometimes in my natural state of
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being, I can be less, I can be more focused on energy management instead of time management.
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And with this, I was very conscious of time. So there were certain things that
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needed to be done by certain times.
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And I was really needing to be maybe in two places at one time in this event.
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So trying to make that all come together and it being a new opportunity for
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me, it really stretched me and forced me to be out of my comfort zone because
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I am a more introspective person.
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So really taking the lead on things and shifting the room was something that
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I was going to have to, you know, really step up, step, you know,
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step up my leadership, literally,
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because now it was on a team effort and it was on a wider scale, impacting, you know.
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You know, a significant amount of people all at one time in an event.
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So I had to make some decisions.
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That were more so my own decision. And I knew it would impact everyone who was participating.
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So whether that was the hiring manager or the candidates, really having to make
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some decisions to make sure, hey, I want to maximize the time that those who
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are attending can network a little more and apply some of the strategies that I very briefly shared.
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But I made a last minute decision to cut my message short so that there would
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be more time for the networking exercise.
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So the purpose there really was I wanted the people to leave that experience
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with a new skill and with more confidence around communicating their value to
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people they may not know and understanding the power of networking,
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as opposed to me just speaking because I was the person, you know,
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brought in to run things.
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But I really wanted the focus to go back to the people.
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And some of the hiring managers had some great feedback as well.
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Usually they would have those hiring managers to exit, but in this case,
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because of time constraints during the time that I'm speaking.
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So due to the time constraints, I just made the decision to let them remain
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in the room so that they're also able to hear the candidate presentation so
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that I could support the candidates. But also the hiring managers got some value as well.
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So that was a good experience. But it was kind of a little unnerving a little
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bit because I was moving around a lot, like way more than I anticipated.
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Well, I love that because I see how you took the lead for yourself,
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because I'm assuming that's like part of your holistic teaching also,
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where you added it to yourself, where you assess the situation and you're like, OK,
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how can I make this management for everyone and myself also?
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And you made that decision to, hey, I'm going to take away some of the stuff
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that I want to do so I can bring more value to others and give those in your
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team the time that they need also to pour into others. So great insight.
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I love that. I absolutely love that. And I love the holistic aspect also of what you do.
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So thank you for sharing that with us. That was very helpful.
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So, with this being Women's History Month, I know this is going to be,
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it's the last day for Women's History Month, but I'd love to hear,
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what does it mean to you personally?
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And how do you see yourself contributing to that legacy of women's history?
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That is a huge question it's a huge question and even when I saw the question
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you know I'm just like wow the legacy so to put it uh shortly I do believe.
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The work that we do, you know, as service providers and those of us in the helping
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professions, it is helping others to plant seeds to their legacies.
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And also with Women's History Month, that being such a crucial time.
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I know we're kind of winding down towards the end, but it's so imperative that
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we understand the importance that women make in the world, you know,
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especially during these times.
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It's so important to remember our contributions as a whole.
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So I think even just being a griot to remind other people of the accomplishments
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that other women have done and sharing that information.
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You know, I had the pleasure of being a guest lecturer last year to discuss
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women's history. And I made the choice to focus on particularly women of color
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who have made an impact in different areas.
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And I think to think of myself as being amongst that is kind of like,
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whoa, I don't know if I was putting myself in that, but I think legacy can come
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from just the work that is being done through leadership,
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through just helping people to know they can be empowered through the means of self-leadership.
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Also, knowing that there are more sustainable ways to success.
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So one of the things that I'm hoping to do is to create a series of books that
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will help influence that guidance, right?
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So not just self-leadership, but also feminine leadership and those principles
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and team leadership and how all those things can tie in together in just our
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general conversations around leadership development.
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So that's how I helped to, in some way, contribute.
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And I love the idea of legacy because it's so huge. I feel like that's still
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something I'm still learning.
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And I've been living for a while, but, you know, I'm still trying to learn what
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it is, you know, that I could do in terms of legacy is concerned.
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During young, I've been living for 62 years and I'm still, I still believe in
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building a legacy, not just for my family, but for others also,
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because it's like you said,
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we know for a fact that women, the things that we do as women,
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not just as leaders, but women in general,
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it's not, we don't really hear about these things because, you know, we're overshadowed.
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And then, you know, I don't want to get into politics, but with this current
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situation that we're in, everything that we are building up,
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it's being taken away from us, especially, like I said, the women.
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So we have to, even in some small way, to continue to uplift women and bring
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their stories to the forefront.
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It's like you said, it doesn't have to be, oh, this woman did such a great job
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and built this great foundation and company and stuff. No, it's the little things
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we do where we start off by we're sharing information and learning to uplift
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each other, collaboration.
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We need to bring this out to the forefront to show what we are doing and to
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get our message out there. You know, that women are powerful leaders.
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We are. And even though it's not out there the way it should be,
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we do know for a fact that we are an integral part of leadership.
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We're not getting the same pay, you know, like the men get still.
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We don't understand why. But nevertheless, we're still out there and we're making a huge impact.
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So continue to build that legacy. And age has nothing to do with building a
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legacy. We can do this until God calls us home.
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So continue doing what you're doing.
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Thank you for that. Okay, so now let's end with this.
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What are you working on right now that feels deeply aligned with your purpose and growth?
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That's a beautiful question. And to your point, I definitely agree with you.
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There's definitely not an age to legacy, But that is something I do think about
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more of what legacy I would like to leave behind in terms of leadership.
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So as I mentioned earlier, books. So that's something I'm looking into and really
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making more impact as it relates to corporate clients, as well as,
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you know, opportunities to speak and share my voice.
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So that way it could be, whether that is collaboration, like what I'm doing right now.
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So I'd like to connect more towards collaboration on a grander scale.
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So something in the future, for sure, that would bring the voices of different
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women leaders together. I do actually have something in the works for October.
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So there is going to be an event that is geared towards women leaders.
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Those who are executives are interested in that. And I'll be,
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Basically partnering with two other wonderful ladies, and we'll definitely promote
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more information about that in the future.
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Also, you know, I think just in general, just me honoring my own legacy for
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myself, which is just prioritizing peace and being that example.
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Right. Because a lot of times we think of leadership as it has to be this like
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massive thing of you're the executive of a top company.
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But it can also leadership can also just be you making
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the decision to prioritize your piece in
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your day you making the decision to manage your energy and that really helping
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you to align a little bit better because I find for myself when I try to do
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the traditional way of leadership with client interaction it can be a little
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bit cantankerous for me or a little tedious where it can help initially.
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So you're able to just get things done. But I think for me, learning to lean
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into my natural strengths, which are intuition and wanting to see just the best of other people,
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seeing that, being able to communicate that effectively to my clients and making
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sure they're able to reach their goals and not just, you know,
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gain skills, but skills that will help them throughout their lifetime.
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And yeah, to the earlier point, I will say I do actually mention people who
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are significantly younger than me when I talk about women's history,
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because we've had some young people do some amazing things to people who are
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no longer with us, who live long lives.
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So I love the diversity of the leaders that I admire, and I hope that somehow
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I can impart some wisdom so others can grow in their worthiness, right?
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And also just their wellness overall.
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To the earlier point, yes, I take a holistic approach and I want to continue with that. So thank you.
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Absolutely. Thank you for being who you are, for being out there, for empowering.
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I know we're not supposed to use that word, but that is what you're doing.
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You're empowering not just yourself, but you're empowering your leaders and
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the future generation to see themselves for who they really are and to put them
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in that space and give them that opportunity to really grow and reach their potential.
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So I truly appreciate what you're doing and continue doing so.
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And once you get your program out, I try my best, but you know,
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my schedule is just crazy.
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I try to be there, you know, for the things that you're doing.
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So feel free to share that information with me. I try to do my best to see how
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I can plug in and to just give you the support that you need.
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Because that, in essence, is what it's all about. It's about supporting each
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other as we build and grow. So, Charity, I want to thank you so much for being
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here today and sharing your heart, your wisdom, and your light.
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I mean, you certainly poured so much into this short conversation.
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And I know our listeners will be walking away in power today.
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So to everyone tuning in i
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want you to remember self-leadership starts with
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a decision to honor your voice and
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walk in alignment with who you truly are and don't
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forget to connect with charity on linkedin and to learn more about her at her
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crwn institute so until next time dear listeners i want you to continue to live
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boldly in your power and if it gets tough i want you to remember but to just breathe,
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you've still got the strength to rise.
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So continue to live in your power. Thank you, Charity. Thank you.
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Hello and welcome, my valued listeners, to another episode of Living in Your Power.
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I'm your host, Dr. Marlene Greenleaf, and today is a special one.
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We are wrapping up our March series on Women Who Rise, Strength,
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Leadership, and Empowerment.
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And I couldn't think of a better way to close this with a meaningful conversation
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with a woman who truly embodies this theme.
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Today, I'm joined by Charity McDonald, founder of the CRWN Institute,
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a keynote speaker, and a top leadership voice on LinkedIn.
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She's an award-winning consultant who helps high achievers step into their full
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value using her crown model of self-leadership framework.
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I have had the pleasure of witnessing her rise, and today, she's here to share
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her journey and insights with you.
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So Charity, welcome to the podcast and you are my first in-person interview I'm having.
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So this is exciting for me. I hope it's exciting for you too.
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It is. Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Marlene.
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Wow, I'm excited to be here and I'm really appreciative of you inviting me to
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speak with you today. So I look forward to the conversation.
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Yes, it is my pleasure. Okay, so let's go ahead and get started.
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Because we said we were going to keep it to a limited time. So we are going to dive right in.
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So would you start by sharing a little bit about your journey and what you do?
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Absolutely. So the work I do is primarily career and life transition.
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So I support leaders at all levels, really.
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But I would say the journey for myself, it actually started,
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I worked in higher education, and I did a lot of program development work.
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So supporting different organizations, including the School of Management and
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Labor Relations and their programs that they had around executive and professional
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education. It kind of gave me insight into the consulting space.
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And I actually had a stint as a recruiter and I found it wasn't necessarily,
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you know, a fit for me fully. So I did like helping people still.
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So I decided to volunteer.
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I volunteered as a career coach. So I supported people that were long-term unemployed
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who had struggles and potential issues with age discrimination.
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So I was supporting long-term unemployed professionals who were mostly people
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who were mid to senior professionals.
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So that was for six years. So from 2016 to about 2022, I volunteered while simultaneously
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working in healthcare and in other areas.
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And then, you know, I decided that I wanted to actually help people through
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a business. So that's kind of what started Crown Institute, which is the name.
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So Crown Institute is about basically helping people to receive a raise,
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not just in their pay, but their peace and personal power.
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So I enjoy helping people.
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I've had the privilege of helping over 330 professionals post pandemic.
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To move into their next level with their careers.
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And where I am now is I'm happy to be speaking with you and also dedicate more
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time to speaking opportunities and dealing with corporate clients.
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Oh, I love that. But is CROWN an acronym or is it just CROWN?
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It actually is an acronym. And you are only the second person asking me that.
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With all the podcasts and interviews I've done, I believe you are the second person asking me this.
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And yes, it is an acronym that stands for Creating and Receiving Wealth Now.
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That's what it actually means for. I love that
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I love that I absolutely love that yes brown
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okay I'm sorry I'm getting excited okay let's
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let's move on but that's good that's a very varied career that you've had and
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I love how you married your experience to move to where you are right now because
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it's like you know you said you moved on to recruiting you didn't like it but
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yet still you saw the need to help people so you're like, okay,
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I'm not going to do the recruiting, but instead I'm going to add this extension
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where I can still continue to help people.
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So that for me is valuable that you're still grounded and you still want to
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help people using the tools and the knowledge that you have gained over your career.
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So kudos to you.
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Thank you so much. Okay.
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Okay. So you and I, we've talked before about the power of self-leadership.
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And I'd love for you to share, what did that concept mean to you when you first heard it?
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And how has it evolved for you since?
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So this is definitely a full circle moment, Dr.
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Mylene, because I think the first time I ever heard of self-leadership in the way, you know, that.
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It's known great, you know, for professionals was actually from you.
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So that was the first time I heard that particular word. I've heard similar
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words that are kind of related, but it's not quite the same.
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For me, I was like, wow, what is that?
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You know, and I just saw it as the ability to lead yourself,
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you know, your personal and professional endeavors. I also saw it as like growing
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in yourself skills and your abilities to take radical responsibility for where you want to be in life.
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So that's how I took it. And I truly believe in the power of self-leadership.
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Since that time that you mentioned it, I was just like on a quest of,
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okay, I want to learn more about this self-leadership and how do I develop that within myself?
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And also how can I use that to help my clients as well? So I'm very grateful
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for you sharing that with me.
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And also it has evolved. I've actually created a framework that I use for my
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clients that it encompasses the aspects of self-leadership using an acronym with, you know, CROWN.
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That is the acronym for the framework. So it has really evolved.
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I've really had a lot of great opportunities to actually speak to self-leadership
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for other people to understand it who are not familiar with the term because
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it's not that popular of a term.
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And we hear all kinds of other words that are very similar, like self-management
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or self-discipline, self-determination, self-mastery.
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Those might be more common, but self-leadership, I truly believe in the power
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of that, that if you're not able to lead yourself, how are you able to lead other people?
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So I appreciate you sharing that with me.
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No, absolutely. Because it's exactly as you said, it's not a concept that people
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really understand and they incorporate it into others.
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Like you're saying, hey, you know, if you want to be an emphatic leader,
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that they think is self-leadership. But it's not because, you know,
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we understand that great leadership is built upon the foundation of self-leadership.
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Because as you said, if you don't know who you are as a person, how can you lead others?
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Because that's what leadership is. It's about leading others.
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You know, for me, self-leadership, like you said, is taking ownership for your
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life and consciously shaping your journey, which is what you're doing.
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And you're helping your clients also to understand this and to help them shape themselves.
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So, you know, I love self-leadership and I think it's such an important concept
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that we share and teach others, especially on their leadership journey,
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because like we discussed,
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it helps you direct your thoughts, your behaviors, and your actions.
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And also it by doing so will help
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you achieve your desired goals so it is something that we
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really need to I don't want to say hammer in but we do we do need to hammer
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into others especially those who are thrown into leadership roles it's like
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okay what about you what do you know about yourself how can who are you and
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a lot of times I get this little blank stare like.
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What do you mean you know i'm a leader okay well how are you how are you a leader
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what do you know about yourself so that you can lead others so it's truly a
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concept that we really need to enlighten people more about so i am so excited
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to know that you've taken this concept and you have created,
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a framework to help not just yourself because
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you know you learned it and you and you used it for yourself but you're using
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also to help others you know especially your clients so keep doing that and
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let's keep getting this message out about self-leadership because it's an important
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tool to help you to become a great leader so thank you for doing that so our next question,
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now it says now you speak so powerfully about taking ownership of your growth
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you know through leadership.
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Can you share with us a time you had to lead yourself through a difficult situation
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or decision and what did that look like for you in action?
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Yes, I love this question because I do have some recent examples where that happened.
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With the power of LinkedIn, you know, I have different people reach out to me
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from so many different, you know, job fields and industries.
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And I was actually invited to host an event.
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So it was a sales and management hiring event that I was asked to not only host,
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but also present. and I decided that what I would do to show more value throughout
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the event is I would also offer laser coaching for those who were interested.
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I had my own table at the event and it was an event that had other employers
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there. So I have to make sure things are organized and prepared.
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The thing about it is the time. So for me, sometimes in my natural state of
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being, I can be less, I can be more focused on energy management instead of time management.
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And with this, I was very conscious of time. So there were certain things that
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needed to be done by certain times.
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And I was really needing to be maybe in two places at one time in this event.
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So trying to make that all come together and it being a new opportunity for
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me, it really stretched me and forced me to be out of my comfort zone because
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I am a more introspective person.
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So really taking the lead on things and shifting the room was something that
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I was going to have to, you know, really step up, step, you know,
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step up my leadership, literally,
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because now it was on a team effort and it was on a wider scale, impacting, you know.
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You know, a significant amount of people all at one time in an event.
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So I had to make some decisions.
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That were more so my own decision. And I knew it would impact everyone who was participating.
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So whether that was the hiring manager or the candidates, really having to make
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some decisions to make sure, hey, I want to maximize the time that those who
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are attending can network a little more and apply some of the strategies that I very briefly shared.
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But I made a last minute decision to cut my message short so that there would
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be more time for the networking exercise.
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So the purpose there really was I wanted the people to leave that experience
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with a new skill and with more confidence around communicating their value to
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people they may not know and understanding the power of networking,
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as opposed to me just speaking because I was the person, you know,
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brought in to run things.
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But I really wanted the focus to go back to the people.
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And some of the hiring managers had some great feedback as well.
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Usually they would have those hiring managers to exit, but in this case,
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because of time constraints during the time that I'm speaking.
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So due to the time constraints, I just made the decision to let them remain
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in the room so that they're also able to hear the candidate presentation so
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that I could support the candidates. But also the hiring managers got some value as well.
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So that was a good experience. But it was kind of a little unnerving a little
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bit because I was moving around a lot, like way more than I anticipated.
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Well, I love that because I see how you took the lead for yourself,
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because I'm assuming that's like part of your holistic teaching also,
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where you added it to yourself, where you assess the situation and you're like, OK,
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how can I make this management for everyone and myself also?
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And you made that decision to, hey, I'm going to take away some of the stuff
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that I want to do so I can bring more value to others and give those in your
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team the time that they need also to pour into others. So great insight.
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I love that. I absolutely love that. And I love the holistic aspect also of what you do.
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So thank you for sharing that with us. That was very helpful.
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So, with this being Women's History Month, I know this is going to be,
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it's the last day for Women's History Month, but I'd love to hear,
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what does it mean to you personally?
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And how do you see yourself contributing to that legacy of women's history?
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That is a huge question it's a huge question and even when I saw the question
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you know I'm just like wow the legacy so to put it uh shortly I do believe.
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The work that we do, you know, as service providers and those of us in the helping
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professions, it is helping others to plant seeds to their legacies.
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And also with Women's History Month, that being such a crucial time.
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I know we're kind of winding down towards the end, but it's so imperative that
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we understand the importance that women make in the world, you know,
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especially during these times.
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It's so important to remember our contributions as a whole.
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So I think even just being a griot to remind other people of the accomplishments
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that other women have done and sharing that information.
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You know, I had the pleasure of being a guest lecturer last year to discuss
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women's history. And I made the choice to focus on particularly women of color
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who have made an impact in different areas.
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And I think to think of myself as being amongst that is kind of like,
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whoa, I don't know if I was putting myself in that, but I think legacy can come
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from just the work that is being done through leadership,
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through just helping people to know they can be empowered through the means of self-leadership.
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Also, knowing that there are more sustainable ways to success.
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So one of the things that I'm hoping to do is to create a series of books that
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will help influence that guidance, right?
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So not just self-leadership, but also feminine leadership and those principles
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and team leadership and how all those things can tie in together in just our
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general conversations around leadership development.
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So that's how I helped to, in some way, contribute.
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And I love the idea of legacy because it's so huge. I feel like that's still
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something I'm still learning.
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And I've been living for a while, but, you know, I'm still trying to learn what
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it is, you know, that I could do in terms of legacy is concerned.
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During young, I've been living for 62 years and I'm still, I still believe in
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building a legacy, not just for my family, but for others also,
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because it's like you said,
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we know for a fact that women, the things that we do as women,
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not just as leaders, but women in general,
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it's not, we don't really hear about these things because, you know, we're overshadowed.
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And then, you know, I don't want to get into politics, but with this current
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situation that we're in, everything that we are building up,
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it's being taken away from us, especially, like I said, the women.
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So we have to, even in some small way, to continue to uplift women and bring
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their stories to the forefront.
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It's like you said, it doesn't have to be, oh, this woman did such a great job
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and built this great foundation and company and stuff. No, it's the little things
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we do where we start off by we're sharing information and learning to uplift
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each other, collaboration.
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We need to bring this out to the forefront to show what we are doing and to
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get our message out there. You know, that women are powerful leaders.
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We are. And even though it's not out there the way it should be,
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we do know for a fact that we are an integral part of leadership.
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We're not getting the same pay, you know, like the men get still.
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We don't understand why. But nevertheless, we're still out there and we're making a huge impact.
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So continue to build that legacy. And age has nothing to do with building a
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legacy. We can do this until God calls us home.
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So continue doing what you're doing.
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Thank you for that. Okay, so now let's end with this.
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What are you working on right now that feels deeply aligned with your purpose and growth?
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That's a beautiful question. And to your point, I definitely agree with you.
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There's definitely not an age to legacy, But that is something I do think about
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more of what legacy I would like to leave behind in terms of leadership.
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So as I mentioned earlier, books. So that's something I'm looking into and really
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making more impact as it relates to corporate clients, as well as,
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you know, opportunities to speak and share my voice.
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So that way it could be, whether that is collaboration, like what I'm doing right now.
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So I'd like to connect more towards collaboration on a grander scale.
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So something in the future, for sure, that would bring the voices of different
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women leaders together. I do actually have something in the works for October.
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So there is going to be an event that is geared towards women leaders.
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Those who are executives are interested in that. And I'll be,
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Basically partnering with two other wonderful ladies, and we'll definitely promote
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more information about that in the future.
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Also, you know, I think just in general, just me honoring my own legacy for
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myself, which is just prioritizing peace and being that example.
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Right. Because a lot of times we think of leadership as it has to be this like
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massive thing of you're the executive of a top company.
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But it can also leadership can also just be you making
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the decision to prioritize your piece in
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your day you making the decision to manage your energy and that really helping
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you to align a little bit better because I find for myself when I try to do
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the traditional way of leadership with client interaction it can be a little
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bit cantankerous for me or a little tedious where it can help initially.
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So you're able to just get things done. But I think for me, learning to lean
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into my natural strengths, which are intuition and wanting to see just the best of other people,
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seeing that, being able to communicate that effectively to my clients and making
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sure they're able to reach their goals and not just, you know,
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gain skills, but skills that will help them throughout their lifetime.
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And yeah, to the earlier point, I will say I do actually mention people who
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are significantly younger than me when I talk about women's history,
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because we've had some young people do some amazing things to people who are
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no longer with us, who live long lives.
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So I love the diversity of the leaders that I admire, and I hope that somehow
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I can impart some wisdom so others can grow in their worthiness, right?
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And also just their wellness overall.
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To the earlier point, yes, I take a holistic approach and I want to continue with that. So thank you.
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Absolutely. Thank you for being who you are, for being out there, for empowering.
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I know we're not supposed to use that word, but that is what you're doing.
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You're empowering not just yourself, but you're empowering your leaders and
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the future generation to see themselves for who they really are and to put them
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in that space and give them that opportunity to really grow and reach their potential.
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So I truly appreciate what you're doing and continue doing so.
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And once you get your program out, I try my best, but you know,
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my schedule is just crazy.
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I try to be there, you know, for the things that you're doing.
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So feel free to share that information with me. I try to do my best to see how
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I can plug in and to just give you the support that you need.
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Because that, in essence, is what it's all about. It's about supporting each
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other as we build and grow. So, Charity, I want to thank you so much for being
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here today and sharing your heart, your wisdom, and your light.
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I mean, you certainly poured so much into this short conversation.
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And I know our listeners will be walking away in power today.
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So to everyone tuning in i
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want you to remember self-leadership starts with
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a decision to honor your voice and
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walk in alignment with who you truly are and don't
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forget to connect with charity on linkedin and to learn more about her at her
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crwn institute so until next time dear listeners i want you to continue to live
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boldly in your power and if it gets tough i want you to remember but to just breathe,
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you've still got the strength to rise.
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So continue to live in your power. Thank you, Charity. Thank you.
