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Hey everyone, it's Mike Andes.
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Today we're on the road and we're visiting with an owner from Augusta Lawn Care.
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His name is Garrett.
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He's been at this location for a couple of years now.
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He's gotten married recently.
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He's having a kid on the way and he's just going from growth mode into profit mode.
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So he passed the $500,000 annual revenue marker.
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He's actually more on the $800,000 in annual revenue market this year, but he now needs to make it profitable.
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He's been in the business, working as the GM.
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How do we systematize and simplify things so he can hand this off to a general manager
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and focus on his family as he has a kid coming up in just a few months.
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Let's go ahead and jump in with Garrett Smith from Colorado and Augusta Nation.
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All right, Glendale.
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Let's go.
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Profit mode.
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$31K in the bank.
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$570,000 in revenue last year.
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$800,000 this year for employees.
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Very efficient.
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Okay.
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Do you have a lot of debt?
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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Again.
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It's like $130,000.
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Oh, that's not bad.
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And then it's $3,000 a month in payment.
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That's not horrible.
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Okay.
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That's not bad at all.
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Cool.
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Snow removal.
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You don't do any Christmas lights?
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We do like 15 to 20 a year for the last three years.
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Might drop it this year.
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Might not.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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Is this your third year in Augusta?
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Or four?
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It started like three and a half years.
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Yeah.
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I still remember when you came to training.
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Well, the second time.
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Oh, yeah.
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The first time.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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Good stuff.
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Awesome.
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Anything I can help with?
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A lot.
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Let's go.
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Is this your first year in profit mode because you crossed 500 last year?
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I would say I'm in a constant cycle of, wow, we should really go into profit mode.
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And then this spring – You grew by 40%.
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Like we're in profit mode, but we grew a bunch.
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I think we got to the place where we had 47,000 in the bank, and I've never seen that kind of money.
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And I was like, okay, I could go buy a nice truck, which I really want to do.
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or I can go to the business, and I chose the latter.
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And I was like, what, I mean,
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what are you going to do with money besides grow your business, right?
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Right.
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So I feel like any time that we've had, like, excess cash, I've thought, like, let's go back into growth.
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Kind of.
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Cool.
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Are you going to keep growing to, like, 1.5 DGM plus model, or what's your plan?
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So I think in the short term, we need to make some profit.
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We have a baby coming in January.
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That moves things around.
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Let's go.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you.
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And, yeah, we're obviously, like, a little low on cash in the bank right now.
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Yep.
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And we're on the –
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We're improving that metric, but it was super bad to the point in July where we almost didn't make a payroll.
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And I was like, okay, this is a problem.
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We did like $90,000 and almost didn't make the...
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So this profit mode is the new initiative.
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This is the new version.
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This wasn't this whole year of profit mode.
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It's like, we need to... Got it.
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No.
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So yeah, and honestly, this format of group coaching, I was not sure, but I feel like I've learned enough that I can just go home and implement already, which is crazy.
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My first question was basically answered with DJ,
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tiering, admin, ops, and then sales.
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Because I have a GM, but he's transitioning out, so right now he's pretty much just a technician.
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And he's been with me since the start, like three and a half years ago.
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When you say that, is he actually leaving, or is he just like, hey, I'm not a GM, cool.
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I want to just be a technician.
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He's leaving.
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Got it, cool, all right.
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So I, for like kind of the first time in three and a half years, like it's pretty much just me.
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She does all the office work, so we don't have command center due.
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They'll like, sometimes if we get behind, they'll do calls or whatever.
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It's the reactive task maybe to them, but everything else.
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Okay, got it.
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What's your name again?
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I apologize.
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Malia.
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Malia?
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Yes.
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How do you spell it?
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M-A-L-I-A.
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Oh, that's easy.
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Great.
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Fantastic.
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And she's a little older, has a much better credit score.
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Nice and take notes.
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Good credit score.
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Good credit score.
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Lock them in.
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She's super nice to you.
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But yeah, so that was kind of my first question is like, it's really been like the last like three weeks where my GM's like, hey, I'm moving on.
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Right now he's pretty much just like a technician, which is great.
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Has he been good?
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Yeah, he's been really good.
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I think in hindsight I've really realized how poor of a job I did like training him, if that makes sense.
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And what was poor about that training?
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Well, we weren't doing the weekly scorecards, so, like, he didn't really know the numbers.
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We weren't going over...
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This sounds...
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This is embarrassing.
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You're good.
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We weren't going over the P&L.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, he didn't really, like, have goals.
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Like, he did a really, really great job, and, like, I didn't show up to the shop in the morning for, like, two months straight.
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Quality was good.
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But I think it was really just, like, we weren't profitable, if that makes sense.
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And I failed to emphasize, like, what KPIs we need to track in order to be profitable.
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And, like...
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Alice kind of talks about your job is not to keep our employees happy.
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You want to have the employees obviously, but you need to drive margin, or at least be able to break even.
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I think that was the biggest single failure that I had in training in.
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Because the employees are all super happy, quality was good, everything else was good.
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So yeah, that was kind of my first question which you answered is, how do I prioritize my time?
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It sounds like I need to be basically doing no admin.
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at this size.
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The only thing I'm doing is if she has a question or command center has a question I'm quickly answering it but not actually calling the customer.
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Do you still have an email on your phone?
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Yes.
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Start there.
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It's the best decision ever.
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Delete it.
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I've never even logged it.
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Do not have the mail app on your phone, or the email inbox.
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It'll force you to let them do their job without jumping in, because the thing that's causing a lot of problems, even at Commanson right now, is people that have delegated the inbox.
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I ask the emails environment, I'm like, why do you guys, some people cost five times more than other people?
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Well, because some people still jump and do it half the time, which means every single email we have to ask them, did you contact this person?
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What was that email on the weekend about?
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And get up to speed with them.
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And so the biggest thing you can do to get out of admin is delete your inbox.
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And empower them to be able to just do their thing.
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And then do I delete Connect Team as well?
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No, no, because they'll still have questions.
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And then kind of how I look at it is like at your size, you're still like the GM, kind of acting GM.
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Most of your day is manager time.
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So if you think about like worker time, manager time, architect time, as a manager, most of your day is manager time, which is you are reactive, things that go wrong, the crew is reaching out to you.
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You have to reach out from the admin.
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They have questions, et cetera.
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What you do during your 5%, 10% of your week that is architect time is you look at the times everyone reaches out to you and try to solve it with a system.
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So every time the admin person reaches out to you, you ask yourself, okay, they keep asking about this one service.
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Is it worth keeping 4% of revenue for this one service that every single time an email comes in, they have to reach out to me?
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And so even at your size, everyone thinks the architect time is like once you're above 1.5 million, once you have multiple locations.
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I still think everyone needs at least an hour a week of architect time, i.e.
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like you step away from the building, you assess the weak points, and you create solutions for those.
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And then everyone's like, well, then what problems do I assess?
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Like, what do I fix?
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You go back throughout your week and ask every single time someone from admin had to get in my way or operations had to reach out to me.
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Those are all the problems that if you systematize them as the architect, make the business go smoother.
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And really, that's the best way to set up your next GM for success is to get all those things firing in all cylinders and streamlined so they don't ever get those contacts through Connect Team.
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That makes sense.
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And then I guess the other question, so profit's the goal.
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In times where I'm way behind on everything, what are the things that I'm prioritizing during those times to drive profits?
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And in times where it's like, oh, everything's caught up.
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I don't have anything super pressing.
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What are the other things that I'm like?
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Like, is it sales?
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I talked about this a little bit a few weeks ago, but when you have a bajillion things you've got to get done,
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The first thing I'm looking at is their deadline.
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If there's a deadline, it kind of takes priority.
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If you're like, next week, you've got to get something done.
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Like, okay, we've got to get all the trucks wrapped by this date, and it's a week from now.
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That's going to take priority.
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Most things don't have a deadline.
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So that's always the first question in terms of prioritization is, like, is there a deadline?
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The next thing I'm asking is, what are the pros for the positive things that are going to happen if I do this task?
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Because, like, you're going to have a bajillion things that are going to be put on your plate throughout the month, or you get ideas, you listen to Mastermind, you become things like this, you're going to...
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I've got all these ideas.
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I'm going to do Christmas lights.
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There's a bajillion things you could be doing.
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This is the synthesis for which one do I focus on, because you can only focus on a couple things at one time.
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And then the next thing is, if I do nothing, what are the cons of this decision?
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And if you ask these three questions, it would be very clear in terms of what should I focus on next.
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Because that's what most of us get paralyzed by.
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You have 50 things you know need to get done.
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You're in the middle of spring rush.
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You've got 10 people calling you.
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If someone just broke the water line, there's a deadline.
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You've got to get it done right away.
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It is the most important thing.
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The thing that becomes more challenging if you don't use this as a synthesis is when you don't have a lot – there is no immediate fires.
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What shit are you working on?
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That's when you go to your list of 30 things that you've put on the back burner.
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as like things you want to get done and you ask yourself, hey, none of these have a deadline.
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Okay, so if this was to be accomplished in the next few weeks and I focus my time, what would it do to the business?
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Okay, double it.
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Ooh, that's a big pro.
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What would be the cons if I do nothing?
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Well, I'd be just profitable.
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I'd stay the same size.
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And I would just very easily be able to assess what's the next thing to focus on.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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The deadline one is as a manager, most of your time is spent being reactive.
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Like when you hire a GM, what you're doing is you're hiring someone to take on fighters.
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So at this size and you're acting as the GM, you are mostly in manager mode.
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So if you think about architect time, here we go again.
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Breaking things.
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I'm not breaking, I'm not breaking.
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So all right.
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Architect time, architect, something like that.
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Manager.
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And then we have our labor.
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The next big move for you after a year of profit is you're going to go pay to take 70% to 80% of your day that's currently spent being manager and cash that didn't pay someone else to be the manager so you can spend more time in architecting.
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That's what, Bryson, the move you'll make next year.
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It's like you're basically paying for a manager to take all the fires off your plate.
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And if there's fires coming on your plate as an architect, that's a problem.
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And that is the thing I can then fix.
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Like, OK, we are cutting out this service so that I don't get interrupted anymore.
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My manager should be able to handle all operations.
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And if they can't, that's a problem.
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And so as you grow the business, next year, are you going to get a general manager?
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Is that a plan?
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Ideally, so I feel like, I guess correct me if I'm wrong.
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We need to get two months of payroll in the bank.
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Or one month of revenue.
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One month of revenue in the bank.
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And then I would like to get a general manager and probably start to grow again.
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Yeah, I think you're in a perfect spot to go into profit mode, like legit profit mode, raise prices, have a lower close rate, probably do $850,000 to $900,000 next year.
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But this time next year, I have $150,000 in the bank.
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I think from a business perspective, you're in a better spot.
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I think from a mindset perspective, you're in a better spot.
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And I think from a leader of the family, probably the wise decision.
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And so I would only focus on that.
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Yeah, don't even think about GMs.
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You are the GM of the business.
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So you're saying you run it for the next 15 months?
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I would recommend that.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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You'll also get really, really good at what metrics need to be hit so that when you hand it off, you'll know exactly what the recipe looks like.
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So I would do weekly scorecards for yourself.
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If you don't, what's gonna happen is you're gonna hire a gender manager and just like the last one, you won't do them.
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So give yourself a scorecard on the weekly side of things.
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Like now you'll know what a GM is supposed to, what that's supposed to look like.
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So my question is about snow removal.
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Pretty much, like a summary of the question is we're at capacity, how much do we raise prices?
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Does that make sense?
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For snow specifically?
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For snow specifically.
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We did snow for the first time
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I guess this is our third season of snow.
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First season we did like maybe $40,000 in revenue.
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Last year we did like $200,000, $220,000 somewhere in there.
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Oh, cool.
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With what we have, but we did a mid-season price increase like in February, well we sent out January when in effect like February-ish.
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And then we've signed some up, like maybe another 10%.
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Okay.
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So we maybe have 10% more.
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240, 250 this year?
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So when we're on track, we had a below average snow year last year in terms of pushes.
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So basically, if it doesn't snow at all, we'll do 24,000 because we have monthly unlimited clients.
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And then if we have average snowfall, we'll do another.
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Sorry, that's 27.
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And then it's 24,000.
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in per push if it's average snowfall.
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So it's like no snow, 24,000.
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Average snow, 51,000 a month.
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Oh, per month.
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Per month.
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And then double the average, we'd do like 75,000.
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Okay, cool.
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So somewhere between 24 and 75,000.
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Yeah.
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That's not just snow.
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We had nine events in January last year and none in...
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April, which is the second snowiest month.
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There was a lot of really big snow events, but not... Oh, sorry.
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Yeah, same amount of inches, but less events.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, it's interesting, but we should be hedge our bet low or high.
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We should be kind of decent.
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Where we're at right now is like, we're like probably a little over capacity.
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Like, I don't even know if we can fulfill everything that we have.
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Does that make sense?
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Okay.
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But it's like about break even.
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So, we definitely need to raise prices because we need to make money this winter.
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Yeah.
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So I did like a full price analysis of all of our accounts.
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About 31% of our revenue is about half the price it should be.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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We have a big range.
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That means you're losing money on them.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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And then the other...
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So why would we not cut them tomorrow?
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So should I double their price?
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Should I raise it by 50%?
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Like we were in business to make money.
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Yeah.
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If we're losing money, we should cut the customer or rate the price.
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Yeah.
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So my question is how much?
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And then also on the other 70%, those are anywhere from 2x the price that they should be to maybe like 20% under.
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There's kind of still a...
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I found we're super inconsistent in how we bid stuff, apparently.
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So how much do I raise on the 30%?
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And do I raise on the 70%?
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The other factor is...
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Compared to last year's data, 92% of the people that sign up for Snow come after today.
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So the bulk of the new signups are between now and January 1st.
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Yeah.
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So I don't want to like...
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So 31% is way underbid.
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Yeah.
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What percentage is slightly underbid?
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It's maybe another 20%.
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Cool.
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All right.
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So half your customers are underbid.
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I would have two tiers.
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One is you're gonna double the price.
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One is gonna be 20% increase.
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I would just bucket all of them and do it now.
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The reason is because you have so many leads about to come in, you're already at capacity.
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When you're at capacity, raise prices.
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So do it now so that you have all the leads to be able to come in before the winter and backfill, and those are gonna be the higher price.
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If you're at capacity, you have all the flexibility in the world.
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I would do it in two stages.
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I would first do the ones where I gotta double.
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You're gonna lose by 70% of them.
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And then I would do another one, because you're going to get some leads coming in, you're like, okay, we're almost back to capacity.
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Okay, great.
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Now let's go raise the people that are 15%, 20% underbid.
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We'll raise them all by 20%.
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And if you lose some of them, who cares, because you're about in the snow season, and as soon as you get up for snow, you've got a whole bunch of leads falling on your plate.
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What you don't want is going into this snow season, getting all these calls, and you can't even take them on because you're busy doing customers that are half the price they should be.
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That's crazy.
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Right.
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You're turning away money.
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Well, I just saw this one like two days ago.
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Oh, sounds good.
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So I was like, oh, that's a problem.
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And then we talked about it.
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I would batch it just for the sake of like you don't want to lose half your customers because you're going to go to the NerdRack.
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I would probably do that like just to tear the band-aid off.
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But I would probably do all the ones that you've got to raise price on basically by double.
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You're going to lose most of them.
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and expect that at least.
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And then as you get some leads trickling in through October, November, just be ready to switch over the people that are slightly underbid up by 20%, so you're profitable on them.
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And then you'll lose a few of them, and you'll have a couple more leads to be able to fill back up to capacity during November, December.
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That makes sense.
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I guess the only other pushback or factor that would maybe change it, and I'm guessing you're just going to say no, is we do that too.
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Maybe I shouldn't even ask it.
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We are like downtown Denver, so we're doing super tiny properties.
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Like a lot of times they don't even have driveways and garages.
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It's like we're clearing the front porch.
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Is this the classic density?
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It's density.
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Okay.
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Should I stop talking?
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It's actually with snow because like there's so much liability attached.
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Even though you don't have a lot of fixed costs, like you show up to a customer's property, you need to be making a certain amount.
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And if you're half of that,
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You're losing money so dramatically, you gotta raise prices.
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Duh.
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In order to be able to make the same revenue, not profit, revenue on these current price jobs versus what's coming in, you have to sell twice as many.
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Duh.
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And it's revenue, not profit.
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Revenue.
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So double the prices.
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Most of them will leave, and who cares, because you're gonna now replace them, you know what happens.
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92% of leads are about to come flowing in October, November.
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Just wait until the first snowfall.
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The last thing you want to be doing is saying no to a customer who's willing to pay a higher price while you're servicing someone else that's inside of your capacity at a price that's half of what someone else is willing to pay.
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That is the definition of insanity.
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That's why when you say – I'm trying to make it really clear.
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You hit capacity, you raise prices, period, if you're in profit mode.
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Period.
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And that's the thing that's going to be difficult for you is you just switch to profit mode.
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Yeah.
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The whole mindset has to change.
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Last year at Augusta Lawn Care, the average location grew revenue by more than 27%.
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And we're on track to beat that this year.
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If you want to see why, go to AugustaLawnCareServices.com slash franchise and watch over 50 videos and case studies of different owners that took their independent lawn care business and turned it into Augusta Lawn Care.
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Okay.
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It's not about dancing.
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It's like, if I don't make money, I don't want this customer.
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And if I'm at capacity, and I'm saying no to incoming leads that are willing to pay me twice as much, that's crazy.
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Makes sense.
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Cool.
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Amelia, do you have anything you want to add?
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Questions, anything like that?
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How do we get him out of the field when I have a baby?
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Joel just went through that this past year.
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Let's go in the middle of spring rush.
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Some of the timing.
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People really need to work on their timing.
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Well, we just had to get January or February.
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It's just a few years from us.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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We were shooting for September.
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That's funny.
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Hey everyone, it's Mike Andes.
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Today we're on the road and we're visiting with an owner from Augusta Lawn Care.
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His name is Garrett.
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He's been at this location for a couple of years now.
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He's gotten married recently.
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He's having a kid on the way and he's just going from growth mode into profit mode.
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So he passed the $500,000 annual revenue marker.
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He's actually more on the $800,000 in annual revenue market this year, but he now needs to make it profitable.
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He's been in the business, working as the GM.
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How do we systematize and simplify things so he can hand this off to a general manager
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and focus on his family as he has a kid coming up in just a few months.
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Let's go ahead and jump in with Garrett Smith from Colorado and Augusta Nation.
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All right, Glendale.
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Let's go.
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Profit mode.
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$31K in the bank.
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$570,000 in revenue last year.
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$800,000 this year for employees.
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Very efficient.
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Okay.
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Do you have a lot of debt?
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Yeah.
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Got it.
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Again.
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It's like $130,000.
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Oh, that's not bad.
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And then it's $3,000 a month in payment.
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That's not horrible.
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Okay.
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That's not bad at all.
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Cool.
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Snow removal.
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You don't do any Christmas lights?
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We do like 15 to 20 a year for the last three years.
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Might drop it this year.
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Might not.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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Cool, cool, cool.
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Is this your third year in Augusta?
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Or four?
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It started like three and a half years.
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Yeah.
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I still remember when you came to training.
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Well, the second time.
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Oh, yeah.
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The first time.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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Good stuff.
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Awesome.
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Anything I can help with?
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A lot.
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Let's go.
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Is this your first year in profit mode because you crossed 500 last year?
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I would say I'm in a constant cycle of, wow, we should really go into profit mode.
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And then this spring – You grew by 40%.
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Like we're in profit mode, but we grew a bunch.
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I think we got to the place where we had 47,000 in the bank, and I've never seen that kind of money.
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And I was like, what, I mean,
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what are you going to do with money besides grow your business, right?
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So I feel like any time that we've had, like, excess cash, I've thought, like, let's go back into growth.
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Are you going to keep growing to, like, 1.5 DGM plus model, or what's your plan?
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So I think in the short term, we need to make some profit.
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We have a baby coming in January.
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That moves things around.
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Let's go.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you.
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And, yeah, we're obviously, like, a little low on cash in the bank right now.
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And we're on the –
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We're improving that metric, but it was super bad to the point in July where we almost didn't make a payroll.
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We did like $90,000 and almost didn't make the...
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So this profit mode is the new initiative.
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This is the new version.
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This wasn't this whole year of profit mode.
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It's like, we need to... Got it.
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So yeah, and honestly, this format of group coaching, I was not sure, but I feel like I've learned enough that I can just go home and implement already, which is crazy.
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My first question was basically answered with DJ,
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tiering, admin, ops, and then sales.
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Because I have a GM, but he's transitioning out, so right now he's pretty much just a technician.
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When you say that, is he actually leaving, or is he just like, hey, I'm not a GM, cool.
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I want to just be a technician.
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He's leaving.
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Got it, cool, all right.
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So I, for like kind of the first time in three and a half years, like it's pretty much just me.
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She does all the office work, so we don't have command center due.
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They'll like, sometimes if we get behind, they'll do calls or whatever.
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It's the reactive task maybe to them, but everything else.
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Okay, got it.
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What's your name again?
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I apologize.
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Malia.
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Malia?
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Yes.
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How do you spell it?
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M-A-L-I-A.
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Oh, that's easy.
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Great.
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Fantastic.
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And she's a little older, has a much better credit score.
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Nice and take notes.
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Good credit score.
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Good credit score.
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Lock them in.
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She's super nice to you.
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But yeah, so that was kind of my first question is like, it's really been like the last like three weeks where my GM's like, hey, I'm moving on.
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Right now he's pretty much just like a technician, which is great.
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Has he been good?
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I think in hindsight I've really realized how poor of a job I did like training him, if that makes sense.
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And what was poor about that training?
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Well, we weren't doing the weekly scorecards, so, like, he didn't really know the numbers.
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We weren't going over...
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You're good.
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We weren't going over the P&L.
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Like, he didn't really, like, have goals.
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Like, he did a really, really great job, and, like, I didn't show up to the shop in the morning for, like, two months straight.
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Quality was good.
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Alice kind of talks about your job is not to keep our employees happy.
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You want to have the employees obviously, but you need to drive margin, or at least be able to break even.
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I think that was the biggest single failure that I had in training in.
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Because the employees are all super happy, quality was good, everything else was good.
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So yeah, that was kind of my first question which you answered is, how do I prioritize my time?
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It sounds like I need to be basically doing no admin.
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at this size.
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The only thing I'm doing is if she has a question or command center has a question I'm quickly answering it but not actually calling the customer.
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Do you still have an email on your phone?
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Start there.
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It's the best decision ever.
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Delete it.
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I've never even logged it.
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Do not have the mail app on your phone, or the email inbox.
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It'll force you to let them do their job without jumping in, because the thing that's causing a lot of problems, even at Commanson right now, is people that have delegated the inbox.
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I ask the emails environment, I'm like, why do you guys, some people cost five times more than other people?
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Well, because some people still jump and do it half the time, which means every single email we have to ask them, did you contact this person?
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What was that email on the weekend about?
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And get up to speed with them.
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And so the biggest thing you can do to get out of admin is delete your inbox.
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And empower them to be able to just do their thing.
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And then do I delete Connect Team as well?
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No, no, because they'll still have questions.
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And then kind of how I look at it is like at your size, you're still like the GM, kind of acting GM.
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Most of your day is manager time.
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So if you think about like worker time, manager time, architect time, as a manager, most of your day is manager time, which is you are reactive, things that go wrong, the crew is reaching out to you.
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You have to reach out from the admin.
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They have questions, et cetera.
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What you do during your 5%, 10% of your week that is architect time is you look at the times everyone reaches out to you and try to solve it with a system.
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So every time the admin person reaches out to you, you ask yourself, okay, they keep asking about this one service.
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Is it worth keeping 4% of revenue for this one service that every single time an email comes in, they have to reach out to me?
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And so even at your size, everyone thinks the architect time is like once you're above 1.5 million, once you have multiple locations.
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I still think everyone needs at least an hour a week of architect time, i.e.
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like you step away from the building, you assess the weak points, and you create solutions for those.
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And then everyone's like, well, then what problems do I assess?
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Like, what do I fix?
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You go back throughout your week and ask every single time someone from admin had to get in my way or operations had to reach out to me.
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Those are all the problems that if you systematize them as the architect, make the business go smoother.
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And really, that's the best way to set up your next GM for success is to get all those things firing in all cylinders and streamlined so they don't ever get those contacts through Connect Team.
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That makes sense.
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And then I guess the other question, so profit's the goal.
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In times where I'm way behind on everything, what are the things that I'm prioritizing during those times to drive profits?
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I don't have anything super pressing.
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What are the other things that I'm like?
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Like, is it sales?
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I talked about this a little bit a few weeks ago, but when you have a bajillion things you've got to get done,
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If there's a deadline, it kind of takes priority.
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If you're like, next week, you've got to get something done.
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Like, okay, we've got to get all the trucks wrapped by this date, and it's a week from now.
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That's going to take priority.
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Most things don't have a deadline.
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So that's always the first question in terms of prioritization is, like, is there a deadline?
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The next thing I'm asking is, what are the pros for the positive things that are going to happen if I do this task?
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Because, like, you're going to have a bajillion things that are going to be put on your plate throughout the month, or you get ideas, you listen to Mastermind, you become things like this, you're going to...
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I've got all these ideas.
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I'm going to do Christmas lights.
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There's a bajillion things you could be doing.
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This is the synthesis for which one do I focus on, because you can only focus on a couple things at one time.
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And then the next thing is, if I do nothing, what are the cons of this decision?
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And if you ask these three questions, it would be very clear in terms of what should I focus on next.
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Because that's what most of us get paralyzed by.
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You have 50 things you know need to get done.
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You're in the middle of spring rush.
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You've got 10 people calling you.
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If someone just broke the water line, there's a deadline.
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You've got to get it done right away.
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It is the most important thing.
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The thing that becomes more challenging if you don't use this as a synthesis is when you don't have a lot – there is no immediate fires.
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What shit are you working on?
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That's when you go to your list of 30 things that you've put on the back burner.
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as like things you want to get done and you ask yourself, hey, none of these have a deadline.
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Okay, so if this was to be accomplished in the next few weeks and I focus my time, what would it do to the business?
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Okay, double it.
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Ooh, that's a big pro.
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What would be the cons if I do nothing?
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Well, I'd be just profitable.
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I'd stay the same size.
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And I would just very easily be able to assess what's the next thing to focus on.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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The deadline one is as a manager, most of your time is spent being reactive.
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Like when you hire a GM, what you're doing is you're hiring someone to take on fighters.
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So at this size and you're acting as the GM, you are mostly in manager mode.
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So if you think about architect time, here we go again.
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Breaking things.
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I'm not breaking, I'm not breaking.
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Architect time, architect, something like that.
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The next big move for you after a year of profit is you're going to go pay to take 70% to 80% of your day that's currently spent being manager and cash that didn't pay someone else to be the manager so you can spend more time in architecting.
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That's what, Bryson, the move you'll make next year.
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It's like you're basically paying for a manager to take all the fires off your plate.
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And if there's fires coming on your plate as an architect, that's a problem.
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And that is the thing I can then fix.
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Like, OK, we are cutting out this service so that I don't get interrupted anymore.
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My manager should be able to handle all operations.
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And so as you grow the business, next year, are you going to get a general manager?
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Is that a plan?
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We need to get two months of payroll in the bank.
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Or one month of revenue.
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One month of revenue in the bank.
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And then I would like to get a general manager and probably start to grow again.
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Yeah, I think you're in a perfect spot to go into profit mode, like legit profit mode, raise prices, have a lower close rate, probably do $850,000 to $900,000 next year.
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But this time next year, I have $150,000 in the bank.
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I think from a business perspective, you're in a better spot.
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I think from a mindset perspective, you're in a better spot.
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And I think from a leader of the family, probably the wise decision.
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And so I would only focus on that.
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Yeah, don't even think about GMs.
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You are the GM of the business.
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So you're saying you run it for the next 15 months?
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I would recommend that.
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You'll also get really, really good at what metrics need to be hit so that when you hand it off, you'll know exactly what the recipe looks like.
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So I would do weekly scorecards for yourself.
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If you don't, what's gonna happen is you're gonna hire a gender manager and just like the last one, you won't do them.
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So give yourself a scorecard on the weekly side of things.
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Like now you'll know what a GM is supposed to, what that's supposed to look like.
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So my question is about snow removal.
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Pretty much, like a summary of the question is we're at capacity, how much do we raise prices?
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Does that make sense?
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For snow specifically?
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For snow specifically.
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We did snow for the first time
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I guess this is our third season of snow.
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First season we did like maybe $40,000 in revenue.
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Last year we did like $200,000, $220,000 somewhere in there.
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Oh, cool.
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With what we have, but we did a mid-season price increase like in February, well we sent out January when in effect like February-ish.
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And then we've signed some up, like maybe another 10%.
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So we maybe have 10% more.
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240, 250 this year?
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So when we're on track, we had a below average snow year last year in terms of pushes.
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So basically, if it doesn't snow at all, we'll do 24,000 because we have monthly unlimited clients.
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And then if we have average snowfall, we'll do another.
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Sorry, that's 27.
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And then it's 24,000.
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in per push if it's average snowfall.
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So it's like no snow, 24,000.
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Average snow, 51,000 a month.
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Oh, per month.
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Per month.
289
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And then double the average, we'd do like 75,000.
290
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Okay, cool.
291
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So somewhere between 24 and 75,000.
292
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Yeah.
293
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That's not just snow.
294
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We had nine events in January last year and none in...
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April, which is the second snowiest month.
296
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There was a lot of really big snow events, but not... Oh, sorry.
297
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Yeah, same amount of inches, but less events.
298
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Yeah.
299
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So, you know, it's interesting, but we should be hedge our bet low or high.
300
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We should be kind of decent.
301
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Where we're at right now is like, we're like probably a little over capacity.
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Like, I don't even know if we can fulfill everything that we have.
303
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Does that make sense?
304
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Okay.
305
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But it's like about break even.
306
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So, we definitely need to raise prices because we need to make money this winter.
307
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Yeah.
308
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So I did like a full price analysis of all of our accounts.
309
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About 31% of our revenue is about half the price it should be.
310
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Oh, wow.
311
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Yeah.
312
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We have a big range.
313
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That means you're losing money on them.
314
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Yes.
315
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Okay.
316
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And then the other...
317
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So why would we not cut them tomorrow?
318
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So should I double their price?
319
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Should I raise it by 50%?
320
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Like we were in business to make money.
321
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Yeah.
322
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If we're losing money, we should cut the customer or rate the price.
323
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Yeah.
324
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So my question is how much?
325
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And then also on the other 70%, those are anywhere from 2x the price that they should be to maybe like 20% under.
326
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There's kind of still a...
327
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I found we're super inconsistent in how we bid stuff, apparently.
328
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So how much do I raise on the 30%?
329
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And do I raise on the 70%?
330
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The other factor is...
331
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Compared to last year's data, 92% of the people that sign up for Snow come after today.
332
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So the bulk of the new signups are between now and January 1st.
333
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Yeah.
334
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So I don't want to like...
335
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So 31% is way underbid.
336
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Yeah.
337
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What percentage is slightly underbid?
338
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It's maybe another 20%.
339
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Cool.
340
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All right.
341
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So half your customers are underbid.
342
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I would have two tiers.
343
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One is you're gonna double the price.
344
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One is gonna be 20% increase.
345
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I would just bucket all of them and do it now.
346
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The reason is because you have so many leads about to come in, you're already at capacity.
347
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When you're at capacity, raise prices.
348
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So do it now so that you have all the leads to be able to come in before the winter and backfill, and those are gonna be the higher price.
349
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If you're at capacity, you have all the flexibility in the world.
350
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I would do it in two stages.
351
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I would first do the ones where I gotta double.
352
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You're gonna lose by 70% of them.
353
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And then I would do another one, because you're going to get some leads coming in, you're like, okay, we're almost back to capacity.
354
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Okay, great.
355
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Now let's go raise the people that are 15%, 20% underbid.
356
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We'll raise them all by 20%.
357
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And if you lose some of them, who cares, because you're about in the snow season, and as soon as you get up for snow, you've got a whole bunch of leads falling on your plate.
358
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What you don't want is going into this snow season, getting all these calls, and you can't even take them on because you're busy doing customers that are half the price they should be.
359
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That's crazy.
360
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Right.
361
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You're turning away money.
362
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Well, I just saw this one like two days ago.
363
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Oh, sounds good.
364
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So I was like, oh, that's a problem.
365
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And then we talked about it.
366
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I would batch it just for the sake of like you don't want to lose half your customers because you're going to go to the NerdRack.
367
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I would probably do that like just to tear the band-aid off.
368
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But I would probably do all the ones that you've got to raise price on basically by double.
369
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You're going to lose most of them.
370
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and expect that at least.
371
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And then as you get some leads trickling in through October, November, just be ready to switch over the people that are slightly underbid up by 20%, so you're profitable on them.
372
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And then you'll lose a few of them, and you'll have a couple more leads to be able to fill back up to capacity during November, December.
373
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That makes sense.
374
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I guess the only other pushback or factor that would maybe change it, and I'm guessing you're just going to say no, is we do that too.
375
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Maybe I shouldn't even ask it.
376
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We are like downtown Denver, so we're doing super tiny properties.
377
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Like a lot of times they don't even have driveways and garages.
378
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It's like we're clearing the front porch.
379
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Is this the classic density?
380
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It's density.
381
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Okay.
382
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Should I stop talking?
383
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It's actually with snow because like there's so much liability attached.
384
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Even though you don't have a lot of fixed costs, like you show up to a customer's property, you need to be making a certain amount.
385
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And if you're half of that,
386
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You're losing money so dramatically, you gotta raise prices.
387
00:18:07.823 --> 00:18:08.103
Duh.
388
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In order to be able to make the same revenue, not profit, revenue on these current price jobs versus what's coming in, you have to sell twice as many.
389
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Duh.
390
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And it's revenue, not profit.
391
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Revenue.
392
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So double the prices.
393
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Most of them will leave, and who cares, because you're gonna now replace them, you know what happens.
394
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92% of leads are about to come flowing in October, November.
395
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Just wait until the first snowfall.
396
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The last thing you want to be doing is saying no to a customer who's willing to pay a higher price while you're servicing someone else that's inside of your capacity at a price that's half of what someone else is willing to pay.
397
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That is the definition of insanity.
398
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That's why when you say – I'm trying to make it really clear.
399
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You hit capacity, you raise prices, period, if you're in profit mode.
400
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Period.
401
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And that's the thing that's going to be difficult for you is you just switch to profit mode.
402
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Yeah.
403
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The whole mindset has to change.
404
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Last year at Augusta Lawn Care, the average location grew revenue by more than 27%.
405
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And we're on track to beat that this year.
406
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407
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Okay.
408
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It's not about dancing.
409
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It's like, if I don't make money, I don't want this customer.
410
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And if I'm at capacity, and I'm saying no to incoming leads that are willing to pay me twice as much, that's crazy.
411
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Makes sense.
412
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Cool.
413
00:19:33.363 --> 00:19:34.543
Amelia, do you have anything you want to add?
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Questions, anything like that?
415
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How do we get him out of the field when I have a baby?
416
00:19:45.320 --> 00:19:46.961
Joel just went through that this past year.
417
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Let's go in the middle of spring rush.
418
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Some of the timing.
419
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People really need to work on their timing.
420
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Well, we just had to get January or February.
421
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It's just a few years from us.
422
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That's right.
423
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That's right.
424
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That's right.
425
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We were shooting for September.
426
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That's funny.