Sister Dr. Jenna | Connecting to Source: The Transformative Power of Meditation

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Discernment will always choose the peaceful path. Discernment will pull
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from within you your original eternal nature, love, peace, purity, truth, joy.
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The discernment within you will say that's who you need
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to be, not your vices, anger, lust, greed, attachment, ego algae.
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When I keep using algae, I'm not discerning. When I
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use my true sense of worth, I am discerning. It's
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a gradual journey.
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Everyone, Welcome to the Radical Responsibility Podcast. I'm doctor Fleet Maula,
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and I'm excited to guide you on a journey of
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authentic transformation. In each episode, I'll bring you insights from
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Have you ever felt like you were searching for something
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invisible yet deeply essential, Like you've misplaced the key to peace,
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to that quiet knowing inside. In today's episode, I sit
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down with my dear friend Sister Doctor Jenna a deeply
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respected teacher, leader, and voice for conscious evolution. She's the
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founder of the Brahma Kumares Meditation Museum in Washington, d C,
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host of the America Meditating radio show, and someone who
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has voted their life to helping people reconnect with their
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highest truth. Together, we explore the profound importance of developing
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a personal relationship with source, God, the divine, however you
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name it. We talk about how love is more than
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an emotion, how introspecting can lead us beyond ego, and
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how community and inner stillness can become the very ground
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we stand on when the world feels like it's shaking.
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This conversation is a gentle, powerful reminder that the connection
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we're seeking is already within us. Let's get started. My
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name is doctor Fleet Mall your co host for this session,
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and I'm really honored to be here today with sister
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doctor Jenna. Welcome, Sister Jenna.
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Pleasure to be here with you Fleet and everyone out there.
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Yes, you've had a very unique background and upbringing and
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so forth, blending both Indian and African Jamaican roots, which
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has given you a broad perspective on spirituality. I wonder
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if you could share the pivotal moment that led you
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to the Brahma Kumaris and how its teachings transform your
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understanding of meditation. My understanding is that pragnan i b
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i'mong that you were born in the US, but at
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one point you went to India to study and practice there. Yea.
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I was actually born in a little island in the
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Caribbean called Jamaica, and then I left there when I
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was four years old and my family relocated to Miami, Florida,
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where I was raised. My first time I went to India,
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I was around twenty four years old. My dad's Indian
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and my mother is African Caribbean or African Jamaican. And
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your query who your question is big? I'm Pisces. So
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I always have spiritual experience. It's just like something very mystical.
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Yet there are a few pieces. I lost my mother
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last year, so a lot of her memory remains very
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fresh in my heart and in my mind. And I
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think one of the most pivotal moments of my spiritual
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ways was when I saw her transformation after she came
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to the Brahma Kamares. You know, sometimes you think about
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your upbringing or your early years. Many of us perhaps
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have had a very normal upbringing. You have a mother
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and a father, their stable, maybe you were raised in
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a family of aunts and uncles. And for her, she
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was orphaned at seven, and then orphanages and getting adopted
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and then having her first child, her only child, at seventeen.
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Think life was really tough for her, Fleet and everyone.
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I think she did the best that she could to
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navigate whatever life meant for her. So watching her was
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a unique journey for me. But I remembered when she
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got involved with the Brahma Kamares within six months, there
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was a wave of something else that passed through her.
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There was this awakening or this light of the divine
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that she tapped into. That was a huge sign for
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me Fleet, and I think after that I started to
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become a little bit more in tuned to what that
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awakening is or what that spiritual path is. And for me,
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I had an out of body experience at seven or eight,
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and I had another experience and about nineteen or many
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different types of experiences that were not human for sure,
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but they were connected to a very divine aspect of
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my interior world, which many of us don't really live.
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So I would say that it was through first seeing
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the transformation of light around my mother, and then the
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second aspect was an out of body experience, and then
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my first trip to India, when I'm sitting in a
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room of two thousand and five hundred students at that time,
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the wave of this divine energy, this divine light, this
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supreme energy kind of blankets the room like it just
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goes everything in me that was uncomfortable, belief systems that
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I had for myself, that were so limited, things that
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I did against my principle or my truth. Something about
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that moment when I felt God's light, it left me.
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It left and from that moment I was never the
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same person. It didn't matter if I was Jamaican woman, black, white, American, Indian,
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none of that mattered. It was an interior work that
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had opened up for me fleet and it hasn't stopped.
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It's been a consistent story.
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We're generally talking about as a day focused on betic
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meditation traditions. Now I know that can specifically refer to
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certain types of meditation, but we're really referencing the whole
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cultural of India, and since we have many days on
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Buddhist meditation. We're not representing the Buddhist culture of India,
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but more the Hindu Vetic culture of India in general.
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So I wonder if you could tell us a little
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bit more about the Brahma Kumari's tradition and situate that
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within overall India and Vedic culture and tell us a
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little bit more about that tradition.
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Well, it's just so profound. Betic culture is huge. It
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really has such a deep connection to the nature, the
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movement of nature, and with the Brahma Kumaras. It's no
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less it's just that it has a lot of very
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simplistic guided formats that can help a practitioner to have
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a deeper realization of themselves. For example, in many meditations
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or different traditions, it's always the focus on the self,
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the soul, the spirit within. And when you do embark
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upon any form of meditation, what is its agenda? What
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is its main focus? Is to somehow bring an element
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of peace, awareness, a light sense of freedom, the ability
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to let go of your shame and guilt so that
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you can live and live your truth and speak your truth.
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So one of the first lessons in our meditation practice
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is to be aware of the soul, the spirit, the
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energy that looking at me right now might be seeing
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me with your two eyes, but it's your soul behind
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your eye that's actually listening to me, and your soul,
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that spirit behind your eye is trying to find meaning
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of this moment that we're spending together. It's trying to
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connect to its own story, to its own truths. Vedic
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meditation and practices are also trying to help everyone towards
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that we've gotten so far away from who we really
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are as a spiritual being that we even bet did
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so much of our thought vibration in only what we
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can see with our two eyes and what we hear
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with our two ears and what we say with our lips.
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Our whole world has become so human we have completely
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disregarded the spirit within, the soul within, And so the
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whole practice of any tradition is actually to help us
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to come back home to ourselves, because we're so distracted
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from that, we're so removed from the original nature of
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our existence we don't even know it. We look at
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another human being and we find everything that's wrong with them,
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and we completely miss the fact that it could be
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my own imperfections I'm seeing in the other person. But
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vadic or spiritual traditions remind you that when you look
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at another person, see the gift in them, the Divinity
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in them, the God in them, and you'll also see
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a reflection of yourself. In the United States of America,
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it's going through a lot right now. It's such human
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among us changes policy wise, government wise, character wise, emotional wise,
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and a lot of people might be on one side
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of the spectrum versus the other end. They will argue
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about one side of the spectrum and completely become ignorant
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that if they're seeing so many imperfections in the leadership,
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there might be room for them to look at their
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own imperfections too. So we're like just perpetuating the same
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negative energy that we're talking very much about padic traditions
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and the teachings of the Brahma Kamais. We want to
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pay attention to not going down that road. We want
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to pay attention to what is the real truth of
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the matter here, what is needed for our survival or
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even for our solutions, And so introspection, focus on the soul,
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focus on the spirit behind your eye, becoming aware that
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your spiritual energy is everything to take care of now
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more than ever that you've got to take care of
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the soul, and you do it by the way you
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think that your thoughts. Your thoughts will serve your soul
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and make it strong. It will hurt your spirit and
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make it extremely vulnerable, delicate, soft, weak in a sense
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that you can be influenced by anything that comes in
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front of you, especially illusions. So when you've lost sight
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of yourself, it's easy for you to be deceived. And
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the importance of a meditation practice, the importance of spiritual
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traditions is to make you very discerning, to decide what
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is truth from illusion, what is a pearl from a stone.
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Then you can select what thoughts and feelings and emotions
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you as to serve inside of yourself. So you know,
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this program that you're doing is really important. Fleet. I'm
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a little bit concerned about the condition of our world,
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and people need to be abor to anchor themselves deep
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in themselves now, so that if everything outside of you collapses,
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you have here your spirit and your connection to source
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to keep you sane. And I hope that our program
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today will do just that for your viewers.
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Many of us are very externally oriented and externally oriented
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in a kind of appear and survival way, you know,
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constantly looking how am I going to get my needs matter?
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How am I going to do this or that? So,
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as we begin to come home and something draws us
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within ourselves on this spiritual journey, how do we discern
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you're talking about this spirit or soul or consciousness that
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is experiencing the world behind from through our five senses,
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through the eyes. And at the same time, our assumption
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that there is someone having this experience is also connected
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with the limited self, the ego. And I'm wondering on
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this journey, how we begin to discern that limited ego itself,
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which is the thought we have there must be somebody
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here having this experience, and then we have all our
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stories about that somebody, and how we begin through meditation
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to clarify and discern that structure from the deeper sense
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of soul or spirit of consciousness. Now I would imagine
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one is on some level even subtly paraded by fear,
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and the other is not. But I'm curious about, in
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your tradition and meditation, how that process of discernment works.
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And I also know that your work is very much
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about inclusion across cultures and ethnicities and race, and it's
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that separated go itself that separates us from each other. Right,
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So I'm curious again about that path of how we
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discern getting in touch with this spirit or soul as
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you're describing it, rather than just maybe even a more
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refined sense of my ego.
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You know, we're all gifted with the power of discernment.
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Even before in awakened life, people have a sixth sense
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about the way people should be. And you meet somebody
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and you get an idea that, oh, this person is
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not good or this person is very good. You know,
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you'll get like a six sense. Everybody has that ability,
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but it just happens once in a while. Sometimes you
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find yourself choosing particular relationships or situations that they've not
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been healthy for you, and you keep going in it
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again and again, and people wonder what's wrong with me?
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I keep putting myself in the same situation with the
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same kind of people, different name, in different places, different times.
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They're not able to discern what is that limit or
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that lack within them as an energy that keeps attracting
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a particular vibration that they don't want when you become spiritual,
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and let me try to explain what that means on
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my own journey. It's taken me time fleet in everyone
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to develop my own discernment. The ego's always traveling with you.
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It's always traveling with you. Not just ego, though, attachment
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as well. My definition of ego is when I'm attached
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to a limited label or identity and I begin to
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believe that's all I am. There's no way your spirit,
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as powerful as it is, you should just continue to
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hold on to a limited view of itself. I'm a man,
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I'm a woman, I'm black, I'm white, I'm American, I'm Indian.
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There's no way that's all I am. And I think
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one of the reasons we're so conflicted with ourselves this
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the spirit is thirsting for freedom. The spirit, the soul
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is thirsting to be free of the attachment to these
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limited labels of itself. You can feel it. Discernment develops.
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I believe when you respond to the discomforts that you
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feel in your interactions with people or situations, that you
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don't ignore your discomfort, but you pay attention to answering
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why is it that I feel uncomfortable with this person.
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Why is it that I'm going to travel with somebody
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who takes a lot of energy from me? How do
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I handle that? Why do I deal with certain challenges
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and situations that I have no control over. You've got
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to answer your whys, and in doing so, you will
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gradually cultivate discernment because you're being truthful to yourself. Simple example,
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Let's say I feel I don't have the patience to
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deal with a particular person for twenty four seven. At
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least my spirit knows that. But I have to deal
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with this person twenty four seven for thirty days. So
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now I'm going to have to find a way to
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navigate that and be the best that I can be.
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And my discernment has given me that wisdom to know
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I've got thirty days to deal with this person. I
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will work it out. I will make it beneficial for
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both of us. We will cultivate something. Something will work
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out wonderfully for all of us. That's my discernment speaking.
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I'm able to cipher through. I can't control what's changed.
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I can control dealing with that, but I can definitely
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deal with how I'm going to navigate this discernment. Fleet
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will always choose wisdom over ignorance. Discernment will always choose
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the peaceful path. Discernment will pull from within you your original
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eternal nature, love, peace, purity, truth, joy. The discernment within
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you will say that's who you need to be, not
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your vices, anger, lust, greed, attachment, ego, algae. When I
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keep using algae, I'm not discerning. When I use my
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true sense of worth, I am discerning. It's a gradual
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journey everyone, but you must keeperson bonding to moments when
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you feel uncomfortable. If you've been living your truth, love, peace, purity, truth,
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joy from your soul, and any little touch of algae
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comes into you. I have to spend thirty days with
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this person alone. I have to work with this job
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that I don't like. The country's going down the tubes.
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Oh I'm gaining way too much weight. I can't fit
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my calls anymore. Whatever is your discomfort, it's algae. Algae
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comes as a discomforting signal. And if you use your
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truth and you ask, what's going on with you? Why
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are you feeling uncomfortable? To deal with this person? Because
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I have to now stretch myself I'm going to have
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to be more loving and more accommodating. I'm going to
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have to show my strength here. So that's a benefit. Right.
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So your discernment has made it clear for you this
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is what this opportunity is going to offer you. Isn't
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that great right to expand your love, to expand your patients,
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to expand your ability to accommodate somebody. This is a
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good thing, right, So now do you understand what I mean?
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This is what a discernment will do, keep stretching you
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to be moreing, to be your best, and will not
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make you come from your algae.
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When we begin a meditation path, find that our minds
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are fairly chaotic, and so there's some kind of stabilization
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of attention, some kind of stabilization, some kind of training
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the mind such that we can settle and practice. Then
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as the mind settles, difficult things can be coming up,
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and you are referencing having to be with that difficult person,
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perhaps for thirty days. Sometimes that difficult person might be ourselves,
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and it's more than thirty days. But it sounds like
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you've been requesting that there's definitely a healing process within
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the brahma Kumari tradition, and then you know, as one
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stabilizes the mind through various practices and begins to you know,
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some healing is occurring, so one can settle further. Then
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and it seems the possibilities arise for the deep insights
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into our nature and to the nature of reality, for
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the awakenings the liberation to happen. But I wonder if
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you could kind of describe that path from someone who
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just starts practicing, who has fairly unstabilized attention, fairly chaotic mind,
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lots of thoughts, very hard to focus, to some process
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of settling, and then the various emotional things and maybe
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traumas and so forth that need to be released and
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healed in some way, and then from there maybe going
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into deeper practice that can lead to various insights and awakening.
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So I wonder if you could describe how that path
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unfolds in Abrahma Kumori tradition.
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I'm going to be very truthful with you. I feel
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that we're not quite sure where or how the spiritual
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developments occurring in the lives of soul. Learning about meditation
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online or in a book or possibly just on your
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own on an app so to speak, and I'll tell
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you why. For maybe folks like us, we've had close
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connections with individuals who are on a journey. I've seen
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the proof of so many souls around me that have
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a lot of spiritual integrity that means I could see
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earnestly they're really working on transforming themselves and being a
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better person. I've seen the proof. I see the proof.
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I'm living with it. I've seen individuals who are fighting
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against their greatest evil algae anger lust, greed, attachment, ego.
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I've seen people who are fighting against this algae to
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emerge their truths continuously on the field of serving humanity,
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to make humanity a better place, even though internally they're
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working on themselves, and even when they mess up, they're
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humble enough to say sorry. I've seen people who have
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given up the beauty and the powers and the wealth
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of the world and have put on a little white saria,
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wear a white outfit and live in a little small space.
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But their power and their energy is radiating immensely. It's
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comforting the minds and the hearts of souls. I've seen it.
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I've seen it physically with my two eyes. I've lived
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with it, Fleet, I know it. It's not one person.
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It's not a guru. It's not one person in a
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massive movement. It's not two people, it's not five people,
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it's not ten. I have lived with many souls that
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are carrying this light because of their connection to Source,
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because of their connection to Source, because they could feel
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the discomfort in their spirit. It can't keep continuing like that.
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So how are souls going to develop their own spiritual
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transformation on an app, online, with a book. I'm going
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to believe that something is happening for them once they
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get into that zone of spiritual search. Maybe there's somebody
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who's going to watch our Showfleet, maybe that one person,
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and they just wake up to a deeper commitment to
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the wellbeing of their interior world. Maybe karmically energetically, their
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souls will be led to a community that they feel
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comfortable with. And I deeply feel community is so important
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for your spiritual tradition or your spiritual growth and transformation.
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But it's not everything, but it's really important to help
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to sustain you. So at the beginning, you might hear
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how to meditate on a podcast, on television, on your app,
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in a book. Then what next do you go back
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to your normal life doing everything that you've always done.
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How do you sustain it? I think it's important to
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find a community, something that connects to your language, your culture,
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your roots, or maybe just your soul. Your spirit from
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meets in the Brahma Kumares and I don't know how
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I would have maintained my spiritual integrity if I didn't
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have community. You wake up early in the morning to
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keep the sacred connection between you, the soul and God.
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Every day there's a morning class and it's a fixed time.
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You wake up at four o'clock in the morning to
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connect to God and to listen to your deepest resource.
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Then you're very constant and committed to your morning class,
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which starts first thing in the morning. Not the news you,
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not social media, but spiritual teachings from the Divine that's
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feeding your spirit. Then after that you get your day going.
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You prepare your day mindfully, think about yourself. You think
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about those deep inner quiet signals that you're getting by
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these connections or these words, are these thoughts, and then
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you reach out. You begin to ask the universe send
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me the right community to keep me growing and thriving
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because I think community is really important fleet in order
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to help a beginner on the path of meditation to
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truthfully grow. I don't think you can truthfully grow just online.
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I don't know, though I've not done it, so I
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can't say. There might be individuals who can just spiritually
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grow only listening to spiritual teachings online. There might be.
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I just don't know about it myself. So for me,
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for beginners, make sure you get your awakening, whether it's
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through a book an app online, but find some real
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people that compliment you, and find a community that can
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help you to stay on the path of your awakening.
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I love the way you're speaking broadly of this path
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of meditation and spirit journey in the context of our
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overall sort of mindset, heartset, the need for community, that
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it's really about our life. It's not about a particular
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technique or practice. Your book meditation, intimate connection, intimate experiences
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with the divine sort of explore practice as a gateway
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to deeper connection. And from when I hear you saying it,
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sounds like I mean, at least in my understanding or
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my experience, we're all connected to source, whether we know
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it or not. We essentially our source. We're inseparable from
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the source of all, but for many of us, at
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some points in our life, we're not aware of that connection,
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and we can really be struggling. So it sounds like
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they're in some way or another. If we begin to
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get hear the call of that, or get in touch
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with that, or something wakes us up a little bit
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to that, then there's this quality of a north star
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that that's leading us in the direction of you know,
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what feels like wisdom and what feels like qualities that
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make our lives work and others work connection, and we
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begin to have that natural distorm between that and that
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which is pulling us in a more negative direction. And
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so I'm curious about how people I mean, you've somewhat
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described it already, but people across traditions use many different
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terms for this to divine the sacred God, soul, spirit, consciousness.
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Sometimes in Buddhist traditions they are a little less likely
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to put names on it, and you know, the unknowing
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the unknown. So I'm curious is how people begin to
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develop a relationship with this very sort of ineffa quality
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of our experience and let that then guide them into
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the right community guide them into the right path and
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so forth.
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Yeah, you know, it's so interesting that I feel we
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have misplaced the energy of God in our lives. It's
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sort of like when you've misplaced your keys and you've
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really got to get going for your appointment or your
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meeting and you can't find it, and it's such a
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frustrating feeling. And if you can just think about your
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life like that, you've got things to do, you want
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to live your best life, that you've misplaced the key
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to it, which is this very intimate and private connection
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to source to God. It has changed for me. When
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I was a teenager and my parents started with the
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Brahma Kamares tradition, they had the picture of Brahma Baba,
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the founder of the ideology, but then they had a
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picture of light, an image of light, God's light. In
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my home. My mother used to say, Jen, this is God,
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this is light, and automatically my innocence would say, oh, yes,
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I totally get it, Yes, why not? And so I
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carried that with me fleet like if I were to
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ever believe God. You can see that image now that
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if I were to ever think of God, I wouldn't
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get trapped in that he Christian, that he's Jewish, that
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he's Hindu or she or he or Muslim. That here's
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the source of energy. There's a place that we all
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go to fleet when we're in distress, like we go
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deep inside to find an answer. And in the journey,
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for me, first he started off as a point of light.
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Then he began to be a mother, a father, a teacher,
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a guru, a guide. And then I would feel that
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whenever I needed sustenance in these relationships, I would direct
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my attention to that source that energy. It's kind of
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like when you go to look at the baby inside
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your mind, you more remember the fragrance, the essence, and
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the purity of the child. When I go inside and
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I make my connection to thought that God is the
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supreme Being, the supreme Light, the supreme soul of love
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and peace. When I land there in my thoughts, I
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can feel it coming back to me. So as I've
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been evolving, it's no more just a point of light.
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It's not just my mother or father, a teacher. For
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me now, God is just love. It's an energy of
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great love that I'm able to tap into at a
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spirit level now. And when I tap into that energy
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of love. I say, I could feel the God in me,
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and then I bring that experience that I'm getting into
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my relationships, into my decisions, into my life, and it's
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like I'm bringing God here on the planet Earth. And
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you can't hide the expression of God because you can
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see it on people's faces, you can feel it in
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their vibrations, you can feel it in their aura. There's
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just a feeling about people when you meet them. If
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they're kind or humble and loving and sweet, it's the
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God in them that you're see. But if they seem mean, vicious, bully, arrogant,
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that person has not been remembering who they belong to
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or really who they are. And so I feel that
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as we're moving towards very sensitive times in the world.
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We heard today on one of the radio stations that
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American Russia are now given permission to test their nuclear powers.
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We are seeing the struggles of countries Mozambique and Uprising,
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the Congos, Ukraine and Russia still unsettled. Gods in Israel
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are still delicate, so many countries going through so much
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because leaders cannot get along. Leaders will not bring God
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into the war room before they decide to hurt their
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citizens of their country. The irony is everybody wants the
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same and so I think that we need to have
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this alive express now of a deep intimate relationship with God.
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That's the benefit of meditation. I'm not talking about a
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religious God. You can't in your right mind squeeze God
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into your religion and think that's it. It's just not possible.
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It's an energy that belongs to eight billion souls. As
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long as we don't misplace it, we won't have all
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this algae thinking. If I haven't misplaced the identity and
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the connection to the source, I will bring this source
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with me wherever I go. And like I mentioned to
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that person, for example, if I have to live with
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somebody for thirty days, they're actually a very good person,
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one of the most kindest, sweetest people I know. And
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now I have to raise my energy not them. They're great,
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they're wonderful people. They're just different in thinking and behavior
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and alignment. But they're beautiful people. And now, in order
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for me to get power to love more, because they
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don't speak my language, they don't eat my food, they
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don't act like me, I need to pull love from
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God to be able to accommodate that, because I'm not
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used to that energy all the time. So the issue
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here is for everyone out there, I'm begging you you
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have to make a connection to source. And it's definitely
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not religious. It's going to just save your life. If
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tomorrow morning we wake up and we hear the world
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is at war with each other, we're just guinea pigs
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to the game of the ego of these leaders. Where
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do you turn? Who do you turn to? You better
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have a connection to love, that divinity of love. Because
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if the world reaches a point where the algae completely
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fights with another algae and it just destroys everything, where
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do you go? Where do you go? You have to
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have a place inside where there's safety of the spirit,
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and in order to save your soul for suffering, you
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connect to love. And that's what I love the most.
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And I'm even more committed to this connection now because
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I'm looking at the condition of the world and it's
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just so sad to see how grown people can think
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the way that they think about each other. It's an
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absence of God's love. So I share this with you
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fleet with really deep emotions because I really am very
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disappointed in the way we are evolving, and at the
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same token, I'm really not disappointed because it's written in
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the script to be this way. However, I think it's
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time for us to return to Source, to Divinity, to light.
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It's very private, it's very private, it's very quiet. It
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is something that you're doing internally inside that only you
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and the Divine know what you're up to. People will
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never understand your heart, no matter how much you try
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to put it in words. Nobody has the sensitivity to
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understand your deepest feelings. But when you've deeply connected to
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the source of truth, which carries the power of love
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and peace and purity and truth and joy, then you
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become that. You become an embodied experience of those feelings.
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When you meet people and you interact with people, you'll
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start to give hope to people that somehow it's not
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as bad as it looks. There's hope after all. And
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I think for me, Fleet, I just want everyone to
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have a private link to Source now so that they
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feel a sense of soul protection. Whatever happens to my body,
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I can't help that, but at a soul level, I
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should be I should feel at peace or protected. You know,
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someone leaves the body. For example, when they die, people
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will say or may they rest in peace? Or they'll say,
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oh they're in a better place. The soul is gone.
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The body is there, burned or six feet under, but
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people will say, the soul is at peace. Now, live
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your peace while you're alive. Develop that experience between you
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and the divine while you're alive, so that wherever you
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go next, you're fine. That's my message to everyone, because
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I think it's so important. Now fleet if any world leader,
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because if they're ego, they say something, and you and
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I wake up tomorrow and all we're hearing are sirens
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because World War three has started. Where do you go spiritually?
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You're going to run to your church, run to your synagogue.
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Are you going to run to grab your grandchild or
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your daughter, your wife or your spouse. Where are you're
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going to go? We're all in peril. You're going to
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go inside and you could make your connection to source,
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to God Allah, Jehovah, Ko Kwan Krishna, God Lord, Masta Baba,
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and you're going to feel that God has got you,
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and that he's got you. He's with you here. Whatever
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is happening here, You're okay here and we need to
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practice this intimate relationship now so that we can feel
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safe wherever we go.
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Thank you so much, Sister Jennifer. This such an illuminating
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way of continually pointing us to source and that's such
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an important message. Thank you for this profound conversation and
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for being so generous to spend time with us today,
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and thank you for both your teaching and the humanitarian
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work that you've been doing for so long and continue
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to do around the world. So just thank you so much,
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and I'm gonna stay and wishing you all the best.
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We will let every want in an audience know right
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down below you can see sister down as bio and
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links to her websites where we can find out more
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about her work and teachings and the Brahmo Kamars.
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And thank you Fleet, thanks to everyone who took the
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time to also tune in. You know, when organizers such
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as the Institute of putting together these important ideas and conversations,
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it's not because they don't have anything to do. It
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is a passion, it is a call. It is a
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desire to see the world in a better place. And
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I think one of my deepest wishes for our humanity
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is people on the path of consciousness or spirituality or
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meditation to come together and create a very strong collaboration
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of spiritual people, to really become very organized so that
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we can be available to help humanity if it needs it,
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which I'm sure it will. And so for everyone out
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there there who tuned in, come together, gather together, collaborate,
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don't be too isolated anymore. There are people who are
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extremely powerful that are very organized, and it's not necessarily
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to create world peace. But if you are a person
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working on your own personal transformation for a better world,
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don't do it alone. Come together with various organizations and
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groups that can build that fortress of power and help
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our humanity. Be there as a source to help your
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brothers and sisters if they're in spiritual or emotional of
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physical diar need. But we have to do it together.
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So Fleet, thank you for thinking of me and thinking
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of bringing us together like this at these times, because
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we all need to become a very strong, united spiritual
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connection of people so that we are there as a
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strong rock for humanity to survive whatever is coming in
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the future. So lots and lots of blessings to each
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and every one of you out there. Keep your connection
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to source. Sometimes the days will get really tough. Just smile.
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Just smile. It'll change everything. It's a simple thing. Just smile.
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It'll pass all right. Thank you Fleet, thanks everyone, Thank
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you so much.
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Sister jennebe well, oh
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Shunty bye bye