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You don't even like sports.
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Welcome to you Don't even Like Sports? A podcast about
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sports for people who don't like sports, with your hosts
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Adam Todd Brown and Jeff May.
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Jeff, Adam Todd Brown, that's you. That really? Okay? That
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is you.
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I thought that was you. I wasn't expecting to see
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you here today. When I was recording this episode of
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a podcast called, Hey Jeff, you don't even like sports?
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That's you added two parts to the beginning of the
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podcast because it's actually about how you don't even like sports.
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It has nothing to do I understand if you're like, hey, Jeff,
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you don't even like sports? Is the name of the podcast,
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But no, it's actually you don't even like sports.
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I changed the name executive decision. Sorry, hey, everybody, welcome
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to you don't even Like sports?
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That it was a sports podcast or people who don't
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like sports? Who are you? Are you? You fucking nerd? No?
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You asshole? Yeah? Hey, don't bring up passle Oh yeah,
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getting a little too close to home today. Hey, we
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are a self destruct button, if you know what I mean.
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We are finishing up the Andre Agassy season No Rush,
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I think the last Agasy episode came out in twenty
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twenty two. Life Happens we've been doing. You don't even
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like Sports Live.
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Yeah, you've got your pigs, so we occasionally do it.
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You don't even like Sports Live.
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When we can get everyone in the room, always a
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scintillating time. But we're finishing up the Agasy season and
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then we got to figure out who we're going to
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cover next.
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Oh no, probably Logan Paul, Yeah, that wouldn't be the worst.
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Or Jake Paul.
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We could do them both, the Pauls. Yeah, especially with
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that Mike Tyson fight.
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Paul Maller, Oh yeah, Raleigh Fingers, that would be Paully Fingers.
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About gay Lord Perry, this is his real name, Paul,
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and Gaylord was a nickname.
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No, it's just Gaylord. So Paul Karara the hockey player,
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Oh of course.
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I mean I already have notes for that when I
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was just wondering when you wanted to start doing it.
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So our last episode was called Andre Meets His Match.
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This episode is called Andre Meets His Match Part de deuces.
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That means two in regular talk in hot shots. So
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like I said, this episode's called Andre Meets His Match
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Part two, and we're talking about the long standing rivalry
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between Andre Agassy and Pete Sampress.
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Mister Bridget Wilson.
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Mister Bridget Wilson, which good for him, arguably the most
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interesting thing Pete Sampress has ever done.
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That man is just a pair of khaki pants as
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a person.
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Huh Yeah, and seems like probably kind of a dick too.
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We'll get into it.
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I wonder if he's actually cool. We're just like, well,
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we've never seen anything cool. I haven't seen any cool
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posters of him.
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Andre Agassy doesn't make him seem cool, even though they're friends.
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He doesn't make it seem like they're friends friends.
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They're just friendly smoking meths together. Yeah, of course he's
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no slim, but they have a history.
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And where I had a whole joke about how Harry
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Pete Sampras is in the top of the noteworthy tentleman.
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He is a furry, furry man. You would think you
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would shave some of that to play tennis. Don't you
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need to be more aerodynamic.
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Maybe it's moisture wicking, Oh yeah, yeah, it keeps them cool.
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Maybe it's like wearing the climate light shirt. Yeah over armor.
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What he's wearing so Agasi versus Sampress has rightly been
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labeled one of the greatest tennis rivalries of all time.
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Jeff, what's your favorite tennis rivalry of all time? My
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favorite tennis is probably Luigi versus Wallauigi And.
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Oh that's a good one. That's a good one.
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I've fought
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a lot of battles in that rivalry myself.
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Yeah, I don't know if I have a favorite.
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I haven't been watching tennis long enough to have a
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favorite rival.
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Borg McEnroe seems like it must have been really fun
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to watch.
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Didn't Lonely Island do a thing about Borg and McEnroe?
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Am I imagining that?
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Oh?
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I think they did a fake version of that, an
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HBO thing. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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I remember there was. It definitely showed dong I remember that.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Bjorn Borg John McEnroe. That
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was a big rivalry.
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I just wasn't old. And they tried to get I
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remember they tried to get Borg removed because his heart
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rate was really low, and they said that it was
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cheating or something like that, that he had such a
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low heart rate.
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That doesn't which is the most insane thing. The only
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reason that I even know that story is because I
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remember hearing that as a kid and being like, that's insane. Yeah,
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kicking out shack for being too tall. Yeah, that's weird.
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Yeah.
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I think Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer is probably the
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rivalry that resonates with me the most. And even then
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I wasn't super duper watching tennis. By the end of
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editor's run.
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What about Anna Kornakova and winning? Oh yeah, she never overcame.
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That rival that did matter was pretty lopsided. She got
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that name and likeness, right, scenario going on.
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Yeah, she also got Enrique Iglesias. You god damn right
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argue with those results, like to see Maria Sharapova pull
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in Rique Iglesias. I bet Maria Sharapova pull in Rika Iglesias.
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Actually she's so rich. Now, did you know that about
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her sharpolo? Yeah, she's on Shark Tank all the time.
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So yeah, Agasy versus Sampras. They played each other thirty
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four times from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and two.
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Rubber band matches. Right, what do you mean meaning that
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he wins one, then he wins one, then he wins one,
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then he wins one.
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Right, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, it was not lop sided,
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but Sampress had the overall win twenty to fourteen. And
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as they get later on, Sampress really starts dominating right
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around nine to eleven.
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Yeah, is that full power.
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Big big turning point for tennis, nothing else really, just tennis.
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Their careers really are a testament to how far image
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can take a person, because in the big scheme of things,
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Pete Samprass is the far better player. He's the better player,
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he's the more accomplished player. He's also an American player,
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and as someone who watches a shit ton of tennis,
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his name does not come up to this day all
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that much.
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It's sort of like in basketball, how people forget about
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every talented spur because they've always been very boring. Tim
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Duncan pretty phenomenal, but he's a piece of white toast.
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Bill Russell is another example of that, just because he
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played so long ago. Because when people start talking about
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Lebron and Jordan as the goat, number of championships always
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comes up, and inevitably someone's gonna be like, well, if
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that is your metric, let me tell you about Bill Russell.
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So yeah, Sampress. He was dominant all of the head
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to head stuff with him in Agasy, he is way ahead.
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Agasy was world number one for one hundred and one
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weeks throughout his career. Sampras was number one for two
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hundred and eighty six weeks.
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That's a long time.
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That's some weeks. That's years, that's what that's four years?
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Five years? Yeah, five years. Yeah, boy, my math sucks. Huh.
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But at the same time, who are we doing the
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podcast about, you know, yeah, it's Andrea Agassy because Pete
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Sampras is just a folded shirt. He's just a nice
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cream colored polo, folded and put in the drawer.
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Yeah, when you read Andre Agassy talking about him, he
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gives the impression that Pete Sampras did two things in life.
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Beat Andrea Agassy at tennis, and then when he wasn't
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doing that, he was somewhere laying down thinking about beating
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Andrea Agassy.
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He would recharge in a closet.
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Yeah, it is shocking how even to this day. I
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think part of the problem is that Agacy, Andy Roddick,
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Pete Sampress, everyone eventually got eclipsed by Federer, Nadal and
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then Djokovic all came along and they've been the Big
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Three ever since. And Andy Roddick's the last American man
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to win a Major.
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So Pete Sampress just gets lost in the shuffle. Yeah,
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the Tony Parker of tennis. You know, you say this
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like when you look at stats and numbers and stuff,
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if someone.
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Is very boring.
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David Wells is a much more interesting pitcher than just
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fucking John Smoltz or something like that. Greg Maddock, You're like, Oh,
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he's really good at placing the ball somewhere.
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David Wells. He showed up drunk today. Yeah, he was
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good at smoking. Yeah, David Wells fascinating person.
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Yeah, he'd be an interesting season if there's enough info
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out there about him. So yeah, maybe if Pete Sampress
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had the courage and tenacity to play in denim booty
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shorts in an eighties action movie hero wig, then maybe
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we would be doing a podcast about him.
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Maybe if he beat the shit out of a pillow
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over his wig. Pete Sampers doesn't seem like he'd beat
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up a pillow. He'd be like, actually, pillows mean a
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lot to my family.
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Yeah, he would, just if he went bald. He would
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just make a wig out of his ample chest and.
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club and they're like, this is not going to take long.
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They'd be like, are you here to donate? Or
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what's going on? You got some fault, you got some
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bonus follicles? You want to hear and shout.
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Out to our swarthy people. You guys are underrepresented. Pete
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Sampress really stood up for the brillow armed community.
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Yeah, he was one of those players. It took me
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about ten years to remember he was an American player
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because he looked like he was going to be British
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at best. But yeah, Pete really throws it out for me.
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Pete's a real American ass name. Yeah, there are Peters
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in London and shit, but guy shows up calling himself Pete.
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That's a sense in a name. Yeah, it's a Pete
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Rose name. Oh yeah, there, and I guess that makes
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way more sense. That does make it a Cincinnati name.
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And Agassy talks about meeting Sampress for the first time
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in his book and talks about not having a ton
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of respect for him. Granted this was at a youth
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tournament when Agassy was ten and Pete Sampress was nine,
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and if you recall at that point in history, Agassy
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was a year off of beating sports legend Jim Brown
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in a game of tennis at his local club. So
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it's gonna be hard pressed to get him to be
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excited by a child player.
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It's also interesting to be like, if you're ten, ouh,
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I didn't know the concept of respect at that point
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in time. You can't ask me if I respected anybody
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at ten. I can't tell you.
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Yeah, probably not. But also I wasn't a high level
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athlete by the age of nine. Andre Agasty seems like
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he was. You would have to do manned a little
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bit of respect to even play him, even at that age.
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So especially because of that wig. Yeah, he was already
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bald by the age of nine. He had that thick,
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thick wig going on. You gotta respect that. It's like
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Jane Child.
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He talks in his book about seeing Sampress a few
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years later. He's sitting with Nick Bollettieri and his brother
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and they're all watching Sampress practice after a match and
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just marveling at how little he's improved since Agassy saw
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him last and how whoever was coaching him should be
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charged with a crime because they could tell he was
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just not gonna make it on the tour. There's even
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a whole extended section where Agassy talks about how his
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brother was especially angry, and he thinks it's because his
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brother saw himself in Sampress at that point in that
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neither of them were ever gonna make it on the tour.
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Should be a crime. It's called Grand Theft Championship. Goddamn
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right it is.
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He also played him a few months after that at
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a tournament in Rome, and Sampress wasn't much better. Agacy
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beat him in straight sets.
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So in Rome must have been really hard for him. Why,
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I know, it seems like Italy's nice, you know.
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Italy is nice. I'm sure I've never been. I've never been.
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But let's go to Rome. Let's do it. You wanna
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go now? Yeah, I can go later tonight. Yeah, let's
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do it. We'll do it. Yeah, actually doing a podcast
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thing now, but.
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the Colossus at Rhodes. So he beats him in straight
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sets at that tournament, and then things change at the
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nineteen ninety US Open. This if you recall from earlier
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in the series, was the summer of Revenge.
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He had been playing kind.
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Of well but not great, and he decides this one summer,
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I'm gonna work out really hard.
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I'm gonna win all the time.
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He packs on ten pounds of muscle before the nineteen
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ninety US Open.
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Is that helpful for tennis? I mean, I would think
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to some extent. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's helpful.
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pounds of muscle, they're like, all right, enjoy this new
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weight class you're in.
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With tennis, I think it would depend on where you're
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putting on the muscle, because I can't imagine more leg muscle,
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for example, would be a problem.
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Because then that's just going to make your serve speed
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even serviceable. And so he goes into this tournament in
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the best play in shape of his life up to.
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That nineteen ninety What a time to be in America
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in the best shape of your life. Yeah. In music
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is banging.
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You're wearing denim booty shorts and they wearing those hiked
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up daisy dukes.
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Dangle an ear ring, probably with a tomahawk on the
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end getting out of a cock shaped car.
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Yeah, eighty nineties ruled fucking that. Late eighties, early nineties.
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That's the sweet spot right there for.
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The nantest eleven. Then the wow wow last.
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That period between the end of the Cold War and
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the start of the Gulf War, where we didn't have
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any enemies as a country, Oh.
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Wow, Chef's kiss. None that we recognized well, none that
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we felt threatened by, yes, until Iraq. Then we felt
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very threatened. Then we felt very threatened, maybe wrongly, but
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very threatened. Nonetheless, God, that was a sweet ass pocket
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though it was. That was a good Turtles movie had
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just come out, yep.
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And so he beats Boris Becker in the semifinals and
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then went back to his hotel, where, to his astonishment,
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he watched that scrawny sampress kid put a hurtin on
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John McEnroe in the semifinals of the nineteen ninety US
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Open in McEnroe, that's later in.
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His career, but it's late. Yeah, it's not that.
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Late though, it's laid into his career. But he was
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still good bid it before mister Deed's It is before
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mister eats you got me there, you got me there,
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God damn it. And Pete Sampress just Rex Macenroe. But
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Andre
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had to have his feet taped by the end of
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that match because his feet were covered in blisters.
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That makes me just shudder thinking of that.
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That is the thing that I always think about when
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it comes to tennis, especially when you're talking about the majors.
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Those are five set matches where you have to win
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best of three. Those matches routinely go four and five hours,
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and you're just on your feet, moving constantly that whole time.
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I wonder how those toe shoes would do in a
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scenario like that, if that would help or hurt.
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can really do because it's some you're beat up. Yeah,
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at some point, biology is just going to take over.
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Your feet are going to be like, man, sit down,
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what the fuck?
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What are we playing tennis or something. Oh.
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There's a player named Francis Tiafo who the first two
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or three times I saw him play, I was like, oh, man,
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it looks like his feet are really hurting, and that's
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just how he walks. And I can't tell if it's
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because his feet hurt all the time from playing tennis.
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Or if he just walks weird.
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That was the card you were trying to get out
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of those tops chrome tennis that was eluding you with Tiafo.
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Yeah, yeah, see I pay attention. I finally got some.
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And yeah, I've always wondered that about tennis is the
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feet stuff. It's got to be tiring in general, but
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just to be on your feet that long too.
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I'm sure you get used to it, but how used
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to it can you get? So andre Agassi's feeling encouraged
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by that. And also there's this quote in the morning,
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I feel ready to play a ten setter. I have
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no hair piece issues because I'm not wearing my hair piece.
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I'm using a new low maintenance camouflaging system that involves
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a thicker headband and brightly colored highlights.
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There's simply no way I can lose the pete.
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That hapless kid I watched with sympathy last year, that
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poor klutz who couldn't keep the ball in the court.
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So he's got all sorts of my wig ain't falling
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off in this major confidence going on. Yeah, he's got
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the confidence of a whig demand without the necessity of
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the wig.
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And that makes the impact of the next quote all
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the more impactful.
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Here goes.
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Then a different Peach shows up, a Pete who doesn't
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ever miss. We're playing long points, demanding points, and he's flawless.
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He's reaching everything, hitting everything, bounding back and forth like
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a gazelle. He's serving bombs, flying to the net, bringing
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his game right to me. He's laying wood to my serve.
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I'm helpless, I'm angry. I'm telling myself this is not happening.
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That's the kind of play that's gonna get your Mortal
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Kombat wife exactly.
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And I bet that's what he was thinking when he
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was playing that way. Someday it's gonna be a Mortal
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Kombat movie.
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Someday I'm gonna marry a Mortal Kombat woman. I will
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marry someone from that movie Bobin Chu, the lu Kang
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actor Christopher Lambert. But it did happen. He beat him.
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Pete Sampres beat Andre Agassy at the nineteen ninety US Open,
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and that kicked off his rivalry with andre Agassy and
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their next big match of note happens. There were a
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couple in between this, but it happens in the finals
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at Wimbledon in nineteen ninety three.
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That's again, that's a good It's a good year.
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Yeah, all your grunge stars are still alive. There's rock
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music on the radio. The golf war is over. So
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MTV was still playing videos.
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Am I right? Remember when MTV used to play videos?
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Waco hadn't happened yet. Well tis not everything? So not
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everything's great?
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So this is the match where Pete
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thing that will become the hallmark of his matches with Agassy.
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Agassy goes into Wimbledon with an injured wrist, probably from
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jerking it too hard in Duron math.
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Yeah exactly, Jay, we call that.
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But Sampress was also injured, and for most of the
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match he seemed to be more injured than Agassy. During
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the fifth set, Pete Samprass started wincing and grabbing at
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his shoulder and he calls for a medical time out.
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This is a quote from Andrea Agassy during the delay
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while he's being worked on, I tell myself this match
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is mine, but nope. When that match resumes, Pete Samprass
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is a completely different person. And that is the thing
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that Pete Sampress repeatedly does to Andre Agassy throughout their rivalry.
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It's real, Daniel LaRusso energy, it's gonna fight.
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Yeah, it feels like almost a rope adult kind of thing,
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because there's a bunch of matches where Agassy's like, I
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knew I fucking had this dude. He was hurt, he
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was tired, and then he just fucking flips a switch
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and becomes a different Pete Sampress.
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I'd be like, hey, can we get a camera on
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him during the time out please? I want to see
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if he's hoff in math or some shit like that.
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This is a quote from Andre Agassy about that match.
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He's sloughed off that other doubt ridden Pete as a
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snake sheds its skin, and now he's in the process
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of shedding me.
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End quote.
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And sure enough Sampress recovers and wins that match. Also
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hell yeah, which I mean, good for him. That's uh,
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that's it's impressive to be able to recover that way.
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And that really is one of the things, I think,
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especially in tennis, that separates the really great players from
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the average players. Tennis is a mental game as much
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as anything people. If you read any tennis player talk
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about tennis, the mental part of it is as important
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as anything else. There's tennis players who travel with mental
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health coaches, they call them. It's a sport where you'll
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be playing really great and then one thing goes wrong
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and it just changes everything, and you can feel it
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when it happens if you're watching a match, especially with
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certain players.
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I talk about Jessica Pagola all the time.
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She has this thing where she's never made it past
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the quarterfinals in a major, and every time she's close,
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she'll be winning a match and just there will be
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one unforced error and it's like here we go, she goes.
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It's how I felt watching the Cubs for a lot
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of years. That's how the Bruins are in the playoffs. Yeah.
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Yeah, you can just feel it sometimes you know it's coming,
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and then there's some tennis players who overcome that. Do
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you think Pegoula is like that because she has Buffalo
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Bill's energy, Yeah, it could be.
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It could just be a goola part of the part
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of the family. Right.
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So not long after that nineteen ninety three Wimbledon match,
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Andrea Agassy and Pete Sampras agreed to sit down for
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a joint interview. And this is when an incident that
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I've mentioned very briefly before happens where Pete Sampras shows
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up for this interview. It's being held at Andrea Agassi's
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hotel room, and Pete Sampras walks in, and Andrea Agassy
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has a fucking parrot hell yeah, which.
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I don't know.
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Apparently Pete Sampras was very put off by this.
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Oh was he? Is it because the parrot has color? Oh? No,
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I'm team Sampras on this one. Fuck a bird. Don't
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let your bird fly around loose in a room. Whose
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idea was it to go to that Agassy's room? Though?
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Probably Agassi's because he had to. Samprince was probably like,
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I don't want you to come to my room. It's
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coming in shit, shit and porn. Yeah, guns, guns everywhere,
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just guns and bags and bags of coke. I
don't know, man,
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it's his fucking room. Yeah, but still, what do you
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wanted to kill the parrot? He could have not brought
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the parrot, I mean part of this family, Adam.
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Presumably there's somewhere else the parrot could have gone, but
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Pete Sampress was very put off by this. Yeah, I'm
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always going to be team parrot to some extent in
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that I would rather that little guy be flying in
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a forest and not in someone's living room annoying the
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shit out of me. But also as far as team
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Agasy versus Team Sampress, I'm team Sampress on this one.
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Keep your parrots at home, not me. I bring all
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your parrots to all your fucking hotel rooms.
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But that really is kind of a living representation of
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the difference between these two. Andre Agassi is the type
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to bring a parrot to an interview. Pete Sampras is
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the type who will be put off if you bring.
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Yeah to clutch his pearls over a parrot. Fucking nerd.
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And then here's a quote from Andrea Agassy. We do
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the interview, and suddenly I feel as if I'm in
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the room with two parrots. At least when eye bullshit reporter,
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I do it with some flair, a little color.
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Pete sounds more robotic than Peaches. Peach. I think it
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just revealed that Peaches is a robot parrot. Yeah, it
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could be.
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That would be shit, it would be funny if it
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was a robot parrot. Pete Sampress just didn't realize that.
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Andrea Agassy played along with it, fucking shucks it at him.
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It's one of those put the quarter in and get
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the egg with the little prize.
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And there's another story. I didn't put it in the notes.
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I don't know why. I legitimately just forgot, But there's
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also a story about Andre Agassy and Pete Sampress going
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to watch Brooks Shields perform in the Broadway version of Grease,
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and apparently at that also, Pete.
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Sampras was like, fucking bullshit, Man, I don't like this.
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I want to go.
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And here's the thing, still team Sampras on that too.
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Why'd he go? Probably just being nice? Well, fucking don't go.
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If you're gonna be fucking miserable about it. If you're
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gonna be nice, don't be a piece of shit about
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being nice.
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00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.160
Well, the thing is it was his first Broadway play,
482
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.759
he'd never been to one, and.
483
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.720
So I am again team Agasy on this one. Like,
484
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:23.799
I'm not saying I want to go to the Broadway
485
00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.039
production of Greece. I'm just saying, if you fucking go
486
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:29.279
shut the fuck up about it.
487
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.119
Yeah, you'd have to read Agassy's description. He wasn't standing
488
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.039
up during quiet moments and being like.
489
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:39.359
This sucks all those quiet moments in the Grease Broadway play.
490
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.599
Yeah, he was just fidgety, and Andre Agassy could tell
491
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:43.680
he didn't like it.
492
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:47.160
Maybe he had a hemorrhoid at him that. Maybe he
493
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:50.920
was fidgeting because he just fidgets. Could be why are
494
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:55.279
you bringing that up, Jeff? Maybe Adam people fidget naturally,
495
00:25:55.400 --> 00:26:00.519
and then maybe they fidget extra when their asshole is dying.
496
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:02.160
That's a hippo violation.
497
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:05.720
Actually, Jeff, I'm going to assume myself, I mean, the
498
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.279
person who would have that scenario.
499
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.119
So the next time Agasy gets rope adoped by Sampress
500
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.880
is that the finals of a tournament in Key Biscayne.
501
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.319
Florida, in nineteen ninety four.
502
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:20.200
Before that match, Agassy and Brad Gilbert walk in the
503
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.519
locker room to find Pete Sampras laying on the floor
504
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.559
with two trainers standing over him. He, as it turns out,
505
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.720
has food poisoning and it is bad enough that he's
506
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.720
not going to be ready to play when the match
507
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.920
is slated to start. So the tournament director comes to
508
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.319
Andre Agassy and Brad Gilbert and asks if they would
509
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.119
consider giving Pete Sampress a little extra time.
510
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.640
To see if he can get well enough to play
511
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:50.359
in this match.
512
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:55.000
And Brad Gilbert
immediately, according to andre Agassy, gets a
513
00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:58.839
look on his face that says no, no, he forfeits
514
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:03.119
this match. And Andrea Agassy, on the other hand, was like,
515
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.039
let's let him, Let's give him time.
516
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:11.559
And I can see both sides, ye team both yeah.
517
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:16.960
And even after the match, which of course Andrea Agassy loses,
518
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.680
they have this exchange where he's like, yeah, I give
519
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.799
him time, and they're hanging out in the locker room.
520
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.599
Brad Gilbert is just giving him death stares, and Andrea
521
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:31.160
Agassy's like, look, man, he's probably not gonna get better anyway,
522
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.839
so it'll be a quick night.
523
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.000
I'm gonna go out there and smoke this guy.
524
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.559
And once again, he gets out there and Pete Sampras
525
00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:43.759
is just a different person. It's like he was never
526
00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:48.440
sick at all, and he annihilates andre Agassy and they
527
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.880
get back in the locker room and he and Brad
528
00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:54.319
Gilbert have this exchange about it where Brad Gilbert's like,
529
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.200
I fucking told you just should have had him four
530
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:59.640
fit the match, you'd be going on to the next round.
531
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:02.000
And Agasy was like, yeah, I don't want to win
532
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.400
that way though I would.
533
00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:06.720
Rather if it's only a competitor to take the buy
534
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:08.720
is not what competitors want to do.
535
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.880
Right, And by the end of that Brad Gilbert was like,
536
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.160
don't agree, but I respect your ethics good enough, and yeah,
537
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:18.640
I really can see both sides there, because obviously the
538
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.640
advantageous thing to do is take that forfeit, because that's
539
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.279
not an uncommon thing in tennis.
540
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:27.200
It's just called a walkover. Your competitor couldn't compete because
541
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.279
he's laying on the ground with food poisoning.
542
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:32.359
Yeah, because he's shitting his brains out the bathroom stall
543
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.160
he had too much OK soda or whatever nineteen ninety
544
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:38.359
four s scenario we are going on. So it wasn't
545
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.480
until the nineteen ninety five Australian Open that Agasy managed
546
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:46.119
to beat Pete Sampress in a Grand Slam final.
547
00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.160
That makes sense because everything is upside down there.
548
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.480
Correct, water flows backwards all the things.
549
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.960
Agasy beats Sampress, ever, it's dogs and cats living.
550
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.039
Together and speaking of things not being the way they
551
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.960
usually are. Here's a quote about that win. Everyone says,
552
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:04.799
it's my best slam yet because it's my first victory
553
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.480
over Pete in a slam final. But I think twenty
554
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.720
years from now I'll remember it as my first bald slam.
555
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:16.799
There it is. That's also what Australians call sex bald slam,
556
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.559
the al bold slam.
557
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.400
This is the point where the Agasy versus Sampress rivalry
558
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.279
really heats up, thanks in large part to a Nike
559
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:26.400
ad campaign.
560
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.680
Do you remember this commercial do? Actually?
561
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.559
Yeah, yeah, I do too, where Pete Sampras Andre Agassi
562
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.839
are in a cab and they just stop in the
563
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.759
middle of San Francisco and set up a net.
564
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.279
In the middle of the street and start fucking playing tennis.
565
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.400
And then their net is stolen.
566
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.119
Yeah, And their car is broken into while the driver
567
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:45.279
is still in it.
568
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.400
Their bags are stolen. Yeah. So this is great.
569
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:54.200
Around this same time, when that ad campaign is running again,
570
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.079
this rivalry is big news, so much so that The
571
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.759
New York Times does a profile of the the Agassy
572
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:05.400
Sampress rivalry, and Andrea Agassy talks about reading this article
573
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.720
after it comes out and coming to a point where
574
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.079
the reporter asked Sampress what he liked about Andre Agassy,
575
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:16.920
and Sampress, for one, can't come up with an answer
576
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:19.440
at first, and then finally just says.
577
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.240
I like the way he travels, which, ouch, that's what
578
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.160
I like about Lebron, the way he travels. Yeah, he
579
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.000
does get away with some look it up on All
580
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.799
Star step you get it. Yeah.
581
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.319
I saw a clip the other day where it might
582
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.319
have been some deep fakery, but it looked like he
583
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:39.519
took about eight steps before he hit this dunk.
584
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:41.960
You're in the
forty before he hit the dunk.
585
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.519
So yeah, Pete Sampras, he just says he likes the
586
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.599
way Andrea Agasy travels, which that's harsh.
587
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:51.000
That's a little harsh.
588
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.279
But to quote Kevin Durant after the Sun's got swept
589
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.039
by the Minnesota Timberwolves, if you win the game, say
590
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.720
whatever you want, except he said do whatever you want.
591
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.799
Because they're asking about Anthony Edwards doing the fucking X thing.
592
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.200
It has crotched the wrestling move.
593
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:08.240
Oh this suck it.
594
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.400
Yeah he did do it for about fifteen minutes.
595
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:14.680
Hell yeah, that's Dude's rock.
596
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.519
He was just standing at the end of the court
597
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:20.519
doing forever.
598
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.640
He's like, they're doing a they're doing the host game interviews.
599
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.519
He's still doing it. Yeah, I think someone broke Anthony
600
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:33.519
edwardst So cut to the nineteen ninety five US Open.
601
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.160
Agasy beats Boris Becker in the semifinals to face Sampras
602
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.400
in the final. After his match with Becker, he's interviewed
603
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.480
on court, looks at the camera man and says, Pete,
604
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.440
I'm coming yeah, and then just throws a handful of
605
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.559
splooch in the camera. What he didn't realize that was
606
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.720
a very physical match between him and Boris Becker, and
607
00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.160
Andre Agassi exerted a lot of energy, for one, and
608
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.319
also he had been looking forward to beating Becker in
609
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.000
a final for a long time because, if you recall
610
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.400
from our previous episodes, Boris Becker was one of Andrea
611
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.039
Agassy's biggest rivals. He's the guy Nick Bolletieri started coaching
612
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.240
after Nick Bolletieri fired Andrea Agassy, so lots of bad
613
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.000
blood there. So he goes into this semi finals match
614
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.400
with Boris Becker and he wins. It's a very physical
615
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.039
match and he comes out of it full of adrenaline
616
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.799
so much so that he won yells what he say, Pete,
617
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:37.000
I'm coming coming, But two doesn't realize until he's finally
618
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.559
able to go to sleep at two am, and then
619
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.359
wakes up screaming in pain at five AM. That's when
620
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.799
he
realizes he tore a bunch of cartilage in his ribs,
621
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.440
which for a tennis player is kind of like a
622
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.880
podcaster having a big rage in hemorrhoid and having to
623
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.240
sit for an hour at a time.
624
00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:58.599
Can you sympathize, Jeff, Yeah.
625
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:02.279
But only because of the tennis stuff. Holdsamindtercostal cartage, recently
626
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.039
cartidge cartilage.
627
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.880
That would have to be one of the worst possible injuries. Also,
628
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.400
rafia On Nadal had oblique injuries for a long time.
629
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.920
I imagine that's really bad as a tennis player.
630
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:15.319
Oof.
631
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.279
So he's had this injury before and he knows it
632
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.559
takes about three weeks to heal. Unfortunately, he has to
633
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.799
play Pete Sampress in nine hours, so he goes out.
634
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.160
He plays the match, but he doesn't make any sort
635
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.079
of bold recovery like Sampress probably would have, and he
636
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.480
just loses in four sets. Up to that point, he
637
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.160
had won twenty six matches in a row and then
638
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.920
lost in the finals to Sampress, and this sends him
639
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:44.920
into a big, deep depression that we've covered previously.
640
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.160
Yeah, it's funny too, because I don't know, man, I
641
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:48.839
know you're depressed. But it was an injury.
642
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.279
Yeah, that's what I don't get about it.
643
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.359
I would also have come out of that being like, yeah,
644
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.319
if I wasn't injured, I would have fucking beat that guy.
645
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.039
Yeah, but also we are not them. And also he
646
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.680
hadn't made several million dollars less than he may have
647
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.000
otherwise in that scenario, so I could see it.
648
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:06.319
Yeah, that's true.
649
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:11.079
So yeah, we've already talked about the dark period that
650
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:15.519
starts around nineteen ninety seven when andre.
651
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.360
Agassi, among other things, starts.
652
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:23.199
Smoking a little meth dabbles, gets caught, and in true
653
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.440
rich white guy fashion, is able to talk himself out
654
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.599
of it with almost no consequences at all.
655
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:33.280
Actually no consequences. He had to answer a letter basically,
656
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:37.400
that's all the consequences, and he drops to one hundred
657
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:41.119
and forty first in the world, and interestingly enough, on
658
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.960
his way back up, he beats Pete Sampress, at a
659
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.840
tournament in San Jose and says it seemed like Sampress
660
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.039
almost wanted him to win because he felt like he
661
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:56.480
wanted that rivalry back, and that rivalry just didn't exist
662
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:01.719
when Andrea Agassy was playing challenger tournament and ranked outside
663
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.000
the top one hundred.
664
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.440
It's like in a sports rivalry when one team when
665
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.880
Green Bay in Chicago had a rivalry when Green Bay
666
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.800
was winning championships in Chicago was struggling to win three
667
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.880
games a season. Yeah, we're just like, I know, you
668
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.360
guys think this is a rivalry, but go bother the Vikings.
669
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.599
Yeah, okay, it's like that some seasons that I know. Yeah,
670
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.159
Red Sox Yankees, for God's sake.
671
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.559
Yeah, the Bears Packers' rivalry is shockingly close in terms
672
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.719
of wins and losses, given that it spans about five
673
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:38.159
thousand years. So Andre Agassi, once he starts making that rise,
674
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.800
We've mentioned it before, he's actually more successful in that
675
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.960
second half of his career even than in the first
676
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.840
half before that big fall. So now he and Sampress
677
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.239
are going back and forth as world number one. He
678
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:57.480
loses to Sampress at Wimbledon in ninety nine after winning
679
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.199
fourteen straight Grand Slam matches. He probably didn't even notice
680
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:03.159
that because that's the point where he and his team
681
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:06.960
were more fixated on how he can get him some
682
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.440
STEFFI graf.
683
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:10.559
I got it. Some things have to take a back seat.
684
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.920
That's the major he was trying to win at that point. Man,
685
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.840
You know what I'm saying. Hell yeah.
686
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.840
Sampress also beats him at the US Open in two
687
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.079
thousand and two. But this is according to Andrea Agassy,
688
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:26.679
a thing happens there that tells me almost everything I
689
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.360
need to know about Pete Sampress. Again, this is all
690
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.360
according to Andrea Agassy. It's in his book. It's called Open.
691
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.519
I cannot recommend it enough. What
he claims is that
692
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.480
while he and Brad Gilbert were out to dinner one
693
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.800
night in New York the week of the US Open,
694
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:43.119
they saw Pete Sampress out having dinner.
695
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.599
Also wouldn't be funny if he just wasn't eating. He
696
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.960
was just sitting at a table. Yeah, it's like staring forward.
697
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:51.000
We don't know.
698
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:55.000
They chat him up a little bit, and then he leaves,
699
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.280
and Andrea Agassy notices that he tips the valet when
700
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:01.480
he drives off and he asked Brad Gilbert, what do
701
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:04.880
you think he tipped that valet? And Brad Gilbert immediately
702
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.199
is like five dollars at best, and andre AGAs he's like, what,
703
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.760
come on, he's rich, he's gonna tip better than that.
704
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:14.559
And they go back and forth and they finally decide,
705
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.280
you know what, fuck it, We're just gonna go ask
706
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.760
this valet, hey, what did Pete Sampress tip you? And
707
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.760
the valet doesn't want to tell them at first. He's
708
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.719
looking down at the ground and he's finally like, he
709
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.920
tipped me a dollar and told me to make sure
710
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.559
the dollar goes to whoever actually pulled the car around.
711
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:38.239
Mm, that's Pete Sampress doesn't deserve Bridget Wilson. No, people
712
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.519
who are shitty in situations like that, that's such a
713
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:42.239
red flag.
714
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:42.719
Yeah.
715
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.719
And it's also it's not like a hardship was thrust
716
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.239
upon him and that's why he got shitty. There are
717
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.960
no hardships. You're Pete Sampres, you're married to Bridget Wilson.
718
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.920
Yeah, someone brought you your car as instructed at the
719
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:57.280
restaurant you decided to go to. Yeah, your fuck face,
720
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:02.679
fuck you fucking raided belt khaki wearing motherfucker.
721
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.760
Yeah, I really hated that. I hated I read that
722
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story those bad times. And then he goes out and
723
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beats Andre Agassy at the US Open, and Andrea Agassy
724
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.000
says the look he gave him at the end of
725
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.880
that match was here's a dollar kid, thanks for bringing
726
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.599
my car around. Like he just had no respect for
727
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.519
Agacy either, And it seems like he maybe
did not
728
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.360
have that much respect.
729
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.719
Yeah, that's like when you're friends of the person and
730
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.440
you find out later that they called you annoying. You're
731
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:35.119
just like, then, why and why are we doing this?
732
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.360
Yeah, it does seem like Samprass Agassy was a one
733
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:41.599
sided thing in every way.
734
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:47.840
It was what Sam Prass hole there, it is, That's
735
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:48.760
what that guy was.
736
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.360
But yeah, seems like a one sided relationship in every
737
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:56.400
way in the amount of tournaments each of them won,
738
00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:00.000
and also in terms of how they viewed each other.
739
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.559
It seems like Agassy was like almost in awe of
740
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:05.679
Pete Sampress.
741
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I'll add Agassy.
742
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:11.880
At several points he's doing he has wig strife, he's
743
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.280
doing meth, he's bringing parrots to interviews. I do also
744
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.599
understand why Sampress, Like, this guy's a bit of a clown,
745
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:18.800
oh for sure.
746
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:23.440
And it would also have to be frustrating to be
747
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.920
putting in all that work and then here's this guy
748
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.599
doing meth and drinking a fifth of vodka a day.
749
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.840
And you're just like barely better than him, just a
750
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.159
little bit. Yeah, that's the other part too, And it's
751
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.079
like I have disdain for you. It's like, well I
752
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.960
beat you sometimes. Yeah, you don't dominate me. Wish you
753
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:48.159
would a right too, busy fighting sonya blade for the
754
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:49.320
soul of Earth realm.
755
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.719
So yeah, and fortunately for the rest of andre Agassi's career,
756
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.760
Pete Sampress retired in two thousand and three.
757
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.480
Once the towers were down, he lost his interest. Yeah. Yeah,
758
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.159
well they had to get out of the country because
759
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.400
he was not people were asking questions. Also, he just
760
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.880
probably wanted to just bang his wife. Yeah, it seems
761
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.719
like he had done enough. You know. He seems like
762
00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:14.480
the kind of guy that would live in the split
763
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:16.880
level ranch in Idaho. Yeah.
764
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.119
He has John Mellencamp energy, oh for sure. Or you're
765
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.039
just like, where
do you want to live? He's like Kansas,
766
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:23.679
but really, where do you want to live?
767
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:24.960
Fine, Wyoming.
768
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:27.880
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what Pete Samprass is up
769
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:29.960
to now. I'm sure he's doing fine. Just hanging out
770
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:31.280
with Bridget Wilson.
771
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.280
Doing ten That's a bummer, are they? Yeah, I don't know.
772
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:36.719
You think, what's Pete Samprass going to do to rock
773
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:37.119
the boat?
774
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.119
He is notoriously private at the age of fifty two.
775
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.559
First off, some of that hair has decided it no
776
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:46.159
longer wants to be a part of his life. But unfortunately,
777
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:50.559
recently we just found out that Bridget is battling ovarian cancer.
778
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:52.599
Oh I don't like that. That sucks.
779
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.000
But yeah, there's been some tennis legend is completely unrecognizable.
780
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.639
He looks like an Internet billionaire or something. Now, yeah,
781
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.920
that old Adam. Do yourself a favor. Google Pete Sampress
782
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:06.360
now and take a look at what he looks like.
783
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.119
It's an interesting it's an interesting look. As of a
784
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.400
couple months ago. He is unrecognizable. But because he had
785
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.719
such thick, dark hair to see him.
786
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.599
Like unrecognizable, his hair thinning, that's not he's fifty two.
787
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.199
That happens. I thought he was gonna have a fucking
788
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.599
unibomber beard or something that would have been cool. Yeah,
789
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.320
I mean his hair is a little thinner, but you
790
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.000
know sure, I'm looking at the one with him holding
791
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:35.400
the coffees. Yeah, yeah, I've seen that one.
792
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.400
His If anything, I'm concerned by his eyebrows.
793
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.920
It was a side profile one that was that kind
794
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.880
of threw me back. He looks like a bit actor. Ncis.
795
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.960
Also he's not He hasn't shaved, and that's jarring. I've
796
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.960
never seen Pete Sampress with facial hair.
797
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.440
Give me five minutes, you'll see him with facial hair,
798
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.239
Like what because he grows hair very quickly. Is when
799
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.960
I was getting oh ye, like, imagine seeing Trump with
800
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.719
a beard. That would be what. Ted Cruz came out
801
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.360
with a beard and everyone's like, no, no.
802
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.760
No, I'm still saying no to Eminem's beard and he's
803
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.760
not given a show.
804
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.199
Yeah, yeah, that's an uncomfortable beard. So yeah.
805
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.960
Pete Sampras retired in two thousand and three. Andre Agassy
806
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.599
sticks it out until two thousand and six. He still
807
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.639
has a lot more success, not massive success, but he
808
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.000
sticks it out until two thousand and six. And one
809
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.079
of the things that ends up doing andre Agassy in
810
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.320
is injuries back injuries, especially he struggled with back injuries
811
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:41.440
his entire career, and the book open the entire introduction.
812
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:47.360
It starts, I believe, the night before his last match
813
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.639
at the two thousand and six US Open, and it's
814
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.079
a really detailed, kind of minute by minute description of
815
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.920
everything he had to do to get ready to play
816
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.400
tennis at that point in his career, and it reads
817
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.440
like a fucking horror movie.
818
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.639
It is in tense.
819
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.159
He takes multiple showers and one of them is just
820
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:13.559
to get to where he can move.
821
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.639
Kind of. It's a tough read.
822
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.599
And he's got kids by that point, and there's this
823
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.639
very sweet passage where he talks about how his kids
824
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.159
want nothing more in life than for him to lose,
825
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:29.760
because that means they get to go hang out in
826
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.760
the city and go do fun party shit.
827
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.960
And meanwhile he's like, I'll die if I lose. I can't.
828
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:39.079
Yeah, yeah, because he's only thirty six, Yeah in two
829
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.440
thousand and six, but also thirty six and tennis is
830
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.480
that's like sixty in regular people age.
831
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:45.239
Yeah.
832
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.599
Even with the advances that they're making in sports medicine
833
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.159
today where you're seeing players play deeper into their thirties,
834
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.400
into their early forties in all sorts of sports, including tennis.
835
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:03.159
Novak Djokovic is pushing I think he's closer to thirty
836
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:07.920
six now. But yeah, even Djokovic and Nadal are kind
837
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:11.199
of breaking down at this point, and they're both yeah,
838
00:44:11.559 -->
00:44:12.280
five thirty six.
839
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.400
That competitiveness. I always feel like I'm in okay shape.
840
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.960
But then you're like, yeah, but you can't compare to
841
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.079
a twenty four year old doing the same thing.
842
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.039
It's insane. That's like when George Foreman came back and
843
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.480
they're like, can this old piece of shit do it?
844
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:28.519
Thirty eight?
845
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.320
Yeah, that's how they're talking about Kevin Durant and Lebron James.
846
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.280
Now they're like, yeah, rules have also been changed to
847
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:36.599
protect those people too.
848
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:37.159
Right.
849
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:41.159
Weirdly, as much as they're trying, baseball doesn't seem to
850
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.000
have the same benefits when you look at some people
851
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.480
were playing baseball into their forties and now that happens
852
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:48.000
so rarely.
853
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.599
It's Miguel Cabrera, Yeah, pretty much it so yeah.
854
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.199
I think that wraps up our season. I do wish
855
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.119
people if you found this interesting, go read his book.
856
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.800
It is really well done. It's worth reading just for
857
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.599
that intro. That intro about him getting ready for his
858
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:10.760
last match is harrowing. It is an intense read and
859
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.960
I can't recommend it enough. The only reason we're not
860
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.440
covering it is the only way we could really do
861
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.760
it justice, as if I just read it and yeah,
862
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:25.639
read it verbatim. So if everybody, yeah, so if nothing
863
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.199
else read that first part of the book.
864
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.559
It's pretty great and we'll be back with another season.
865
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:34.880
We will, if we'll tell you what too. If Adam
866
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.119
and I you we usually we bandy about all the
867
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.000
things we talk about and plans and.
868
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:42.280
Stuff, but we're not not open to suggestions. If there's
869
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.079
anybody that you think we should cover sport, just don't
870
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:47.400
be like Michael Jordan.
871
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:51.559
Yeah, don't be like Woods. Yeah no, no, we don't
872
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:52.000
want to do that.
873
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:54.639
Somebody that there hasn't been a million things about, and
874
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:56.239
somebody that we could do a whole season and they'll
875
00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.320
be like Mark the Bird, Fidrich be like that's a
876
00:45:58.360 --> 00:45:59.119
one episode.
877
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.199
Yeah, yeah, there also needs to be enough information out
878
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:03.280
there about.
879
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.039
Yeah, give us a sweet spot maybe and try to
880
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:08.320
do a sport that we've It isn't just.
881
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:11.679
Hey, here's this Sporting News article that's very detailed.
882
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.480
That's not enough, that's not six episodes. But we are
883
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.039
definitely put in the comments. Let us know what you think.
884
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.000
We're taking into consideration. We'll take it into consider you can't.
885
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.360
There's no way we're gonna kick you off from making
886
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.800
we might. Yeah, we're pretty tough. Yeah, push the envelope.
887
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:29.480
See what happens.
888
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.519
Yeah, see what happened. You know what? Tests us? Fucking
889
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:34.440
test us? Yeah, try it, just try us one time.
890
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:36.920
So yeah, I think that's it. We did it.
891
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.440
This feels like the appropriate time to plug some stuff,
892
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:40.719
and I would plug Adam Todd.
893
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.320
Brown dot substack dot com. Go read my writings. Jeff,
894
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:45.239
what do you got to plug?
895
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.840
I got Patreon dot com slash Jeff May for early
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access to uncertained episodes of Jeff Has Cool Friends plus
897
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bonus content, as well as the exclusive ug Fine with
898
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Kim Crawl and early access to Nerd with Drey Alvarez,
899
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so you can check that out. Nerd and Jeff Has
900
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Cool Friends you can get for free later, but you
901
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can do it early. I open trading cards sometimes with
902
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Adam on you don't even.
903
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Like sports cards.
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I also do I must break you every Wednesday afternoon
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at one o'clock Pacific, and et cetera. That's YouTube dot Com,
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slash Ad, Heyther, Jeff Row and Minton Cards the second
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and Dimae watch Batman on Game for Unemployed. All right,
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and let's get the fuck out of here. Jeff say goodbye.
911
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:30.320
You get the bridge at Oilson Rooky Guard.
912
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Everybody got Pete Sampras still dominating even on an Andre
913
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Agassy podcast.
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Goodbye, everybody, We love you, Jim Man, Pack to the
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Bucktam to the back, st