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Hello, hello, everybody.
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I'm Adrian Branch.
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Welcome to The Climb.
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I'm your host, and this show is one about resilience.
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We want to celebrate the achievements and the mindsets of people, men and women, of how they overcome potholes and obstacles.
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What's their challenge?
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What's their mindset?
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The climb is about celebrating, overcoming, exploring stories of faith, character, perseverance.
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And also, when you think about it, everyone has a climb, a mountain to climb.
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And if you don't quit, you're an overcomer.
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And we're an overcomer.
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So let's do this together.
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Well, today's guest is someone I've known a long time, and he's an all-American good guy.
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He was an all-American basketball player at Loyola of Baltimore University.
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He was also an NBA player for the Phoenix Suns and Washington Bullets.
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And he's also been, oh my goodness, a coach and so many distinctives.
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But I want to jump right into it.
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I don't want to leave any meat off the bones.
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We want to introduce you to our guest, Coach Mike Morrison.
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Coach, welcome to the show, sir.
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Man, it's a pleasure.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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I went back and watched episodes, man.
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I was like, man, this dude is he's doing it big, and he kind of forgot about his little lifelong friend.
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I know I was younger than you growing up, but you know, I looked up to you and admired you, and it's an honor to be on your show.
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Well, well, Mike, you are perfect for the climb because this show is all about resilience and celebrating people's resilience.
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And I want to jump right into it because, yes, you're a decorated motivational speaker and a coach at the highest level that's influenced some of today's top NBA players.
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I've seen you in action when you were coaching the top Nike 100, people like Jalen Brunson.
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But let's take it back to a time when you were about what, fourth, fifth, sixth grade, and you had difficulty learning.
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You could learn, but you just learned differently because you were dealing with dyslexia and went to a wonderful school called Riverdale Baptist.
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Take us back to that in the Washington, D.C.
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area.
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Yeah.
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Um interesting time.
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You know, I was coming into my own as an athlete, um, playing multiple sports, basketball, football.
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Uh, football was my first law.
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Started running track.
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Um, but unfortunately, I was having some issues in the classroom and, you know, some behavioral issues that were caused by people making fun of me because when I would read out loud, I would mispronounce words or skip over words.
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And so right around the sixth grade, my mom had me tested.
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And, you know, back then they didn't have the um ADHD diagnosis or the ADD diagnosis.
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Um, they were, they were discovering things like that.
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And so right around the seventh grade, when I really started having issues in middle school, um, they wanted to keep me back or have me repeat the seventh grade in summer school.
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And so after I did that, my mom and dad got another test done and they found out that I needed some some real dedicated uh professional help.
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And Rivenel Boxes has started a program called Talent Development, and they worked on a PACE program, which was basically you took an entry test to diagnose or to find out what level you were learning at.
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And this PACE program would help you uh get up to your uh current or needed grade level.
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So when I took that test, as a rising eighth grader, I scored uh in proficient, and I was as low as a third and fourth grader in some areas.
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Wow.
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Whoa, had to kind of regress to progress to go back and kind of uh learn the way that I learned uh to catch myself up to being at par or being ready for high school.
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And so grateful for John Hawkenberry and um Mr.
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Clark and Mr.
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Hutchison, the guys that ran the program and for their dedication and time and that program that really helped me uh become the student athlete that I became later in life.
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Yeah, Mike, let's go back to that for a second.
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I love that one.
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I'm taking notes.
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You know, when you speak, I listen.
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So when you when coaches talking, man, put a pen and paper to it.
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Regress to progress.
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I like that.
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So I once heard you say you can learn, but you just had to learn differently.
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So in the classroom, you had to just
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uh listen by recording tape and then go home and tape it.
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So, how was that process individually as a young teenager?
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You're starting to grow, you're starting to get size and push through people making fun of you.
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That was a lot of things, but I like that regress to progress.
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Yeah.
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So the regression part, I wasn't made to feel like I was uh behind.
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Uh, they just said you needed to do some extra work to get caught up, but we're gonna let you work at a pace that's comfortable for you.
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So one of the things with dyslexia is uh the rearranging or helping your brain to slow down and actually read the words that's in front of you, not the one down the page.
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Give us an example.
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Give us an example if you could.
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Okay, so if I'm if I'm reading Cadnahat, Dr.
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Seuss's book, I had an index card that had a window on it.
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And the window had a little slide depending on the length of it, and I would use that index card to read sentences, and it would only let me see the word that was in that box.
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So I learned to read, and I would have to take, it would take me longer to comprehend and read things than others, and I had to do some different exercises to train my brain to only focus on one word at a time.
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Because basically, you know, modern-day diagnosis is dyslexic people's brains work faster than their eyes can conceive.
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So I would try to skim ahead as opposed to paying attention to what was immediately in front of me.
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So the regression part was, yep, I might have been doing third and fourth grade work in English and in some of my social studies and uh math classes, but in the other classes, like history and uh geography and things like that, I was on pace.
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But because I didn't comprehend things as quickly, uh I had to have more time with my tests, and I had to have someone read it to me because I could learn audibly better than just me reading it to myself.
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There were times where a coach would let me go into another room and I could read out loud to myself, and if I could hear it, I could receive it differently.
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So with the video, with the uh the tapes, you got a little ahead of the subject.
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I didn't start using recordings until I got to college.
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So when I got to college, I would use a tape recorder with tape, my professor's lessons or my professor's lessons, lectures, and then go back with my tutor, listen to the lecture, take notes on it, compare
it to the notes that I tried to take in class and fill in the things that I missed.
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So it was two ways in which it helped me retain the information.
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Let me stop you there, because as I'm hearing the story and celebrating your story, it's a twofold track.
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So, one, you're learning, and this show is all about the climb.
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So, for my climbers out there, listen to Coach Mike.
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He was diagnosed as dyslexia, but he didn't stay there because as I wrote this down, there was a regress to progress and really to train the brain to adjust the sales.
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Okay, so you're battling to stay on point with your academics, and yet all of a sudden, you've got talent that you don't even know as a basketball player because you would be considered a late bloomer.
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I'll put myself in for a second.
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So at the same stage as 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th grader, I was considered a camp miss.
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For yourself, you were like a Michael Jordan, where you came off the bench as a late bloomer.
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And by the time you got to college, you really worked on and became a star.
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But tell us about that part too.
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When you were a basketball player, they didn't think you could do the work academically to even get to Loyola, where you became a second-round draft pick.
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Tell us about that.
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Right, right.
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So Talon Hockenberry, my principal at Riverdale Baptist at the time, he said, listen, son, don't put all your eggs in that basket.
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It's gonna be very difficult with you to get back into normal classes.
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And the path that you're on, you're probably gonna graduate with a certificate at best.
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Uh so I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.
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And then plus at that time, my size, I didn't grow.
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I grew four and a half inches, maybe five inches in college.
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I left high school at 5'10, maybe 5'10 and a half.
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So I didn't look like I was gonna be the six, three and a half, six, four athlete that I became.
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So he was right to say that, but he lit a fire in me.
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Because when he told me that, he also told me that I couldn't play sports at Riverdale until I got my grade job, which accelerated my ability to understand and comprehend because you were taking away something that I really love.
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And it wasn't done mean or malicious.
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It wasn't told that, you know, I would never amount to much.
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He just didn't want me to get my hopes up or put all my eggs in the athletic basket when I he knew that athletics would only be possible if I could get the academics together.
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So, fast forwarding, um, I got to Northwestern.
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You know how talented we were there.
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Me and my teammate were talking earlier, Charles Payne, and he reminded me that my junior year, there were only four underclassmen on our team.
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Man.
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Clinton Goldman was a freshman who ended up going on to play at Allegheny and then at um Bowling Green of Ohio.
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David Gregg, who played in Maryland, uh, was a McDonald's All-American, Capitol Classic selection.
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Six foot eleven, left-handed, Chris Bosch type.
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So school with the jump shot.
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Um another guy named Julius Johnson, who ended up going back to North Carolina for his senior year because he didn't think he'd play at Northwestern.
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And then myself.
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And again, I'm playing behind Darren Shadow White, Charles Payne, Mike Lofty, uh uh Chris Minot.
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Uh, we had a talented group.
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Out of those 11 seniors, I think six of them went on to play college basketball.
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So I was I was in a in a rock and art place, and then my senior year, transfer in was another couple of classic selection, McDonald's All-American, Villanova, Commit, Brian Tucker.
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6'11.
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That's right.
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So we had two bookends in 6'11.
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I think our squad was bigger than Merlin's squad.
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And your school is right across the street from the University of Maryland for the listeners.
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Right.
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So, you know, again, I was overshadowed, overlooked, but God put inside of me something of determination and ability because of the struggles I had in the classroom.
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And I continued to work and I believe that I had some talents that if I kept working would eventually come to the surface.
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So I get to Loyola.
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Uh, as a freshman, I'm struggling academically.
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My tutor suggested that I get the tapes and record the lectures so we could go down and break them down and get my stuff, get all my notes so that those notes would be transferable into me, being able to comprehend, regurgitate them on tests, and things began to fall into place.
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My head coach Mark Ambertucci just really cared about me more than just as a
basketball player.
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He saw my talent.
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But his thing was he wanted to make sure I was a first-generation graduate from Loyola College.
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And so he worked real hard and he had tutors in place.
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And I'm proud to say none of my tutors ever did an inch of work for me.
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They were ladies who were former teachers, high school teachers, and they were not accepting uh no for an answer.
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If I didn't do it then, they would help me through it, but I was gonna do it.
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And they were gonna make sure that I did it so that I could feel was of overcoming something that people said was gonna be hard for me.
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So Mr.
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Hawkenberry's words about me not being able to put my eggs in that basket and then having people to help me along the way, it made the climb not easy, but it made it doable.
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Let's go, the climb.
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Let's go.
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Yes.
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So, you know, as a sophomore, as a freshman, I played sparingly, but as a sophomore, I earned a starting spot.
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We graduated six seniors.
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Uh and then as a junior, man, that summer between my sophomore year and my junior year, I think I grew four inches.
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And the rest is just, you know, history, man.
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I, you know, still top four, top five all time in a lot of records at Loyola.
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Um, was the first player ever selected in the modern-day NBA draft.
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We had a draft pick about eight years ago, not even eight years ago, maybe six years ago.
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Uh, the young man that came over from Serbia that now plays with the Sacramento Kings, he was the second, but you know, Hall of Famer in Loyola, Hall of Famer at the Mac, and then I was able to play with five NBA teams over that was four years, and you and I were able to link up overseas and play together in Australia.
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One of the six continents that we had a chance to play in the Philippines, Turkey.
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Born and raised in Northeast Washington, D.C.
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You know, who would have ever thunk it, A.B.
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I mean, look at us, man.
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We have traveled the globe, being paid for a talent that uh a lot of people um take for granted some days.
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Well, well, I'm I'm I'm so proud of you, and I'll say it again.
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Um, Mike Morrison and True Confession, guys, actually, the Lord used Mike to lead me to a personal relationship with God through Jesus when we were in Australia.
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And he had the most worn-out Bible I've ever seen in my life.
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It was red and green and yellow.
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And I didn't know you could write in Bibles.
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But Mike was such an influence, and we were able to be motivational speakers together, encouraging people.
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And I'm so doggone proud of this guy.
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And he hadn't stopped.
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Guys, if you're listening to his story, he's telling you that he had to learn differently, dyslexia, but he pushed through.
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Even one of the administrators who he believed in said, Don't put your eggs in all that one basket, but he still had a drive or inner drive.
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And then, as a pro athlete, I give you a picture reference, Mike had one of the prettiest jump shots I've ever seen.
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It was two people in my book.
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Dennis Scott, 3D that you see on the NBA announcing, and Mike Morrison had the most beautiful jump shot, soft release, follow-through.
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And that Joker made a lot of him.
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He made more than he missed.
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But Mike, tell us about what you're doing now because you're even, you were a fantastic player, but an even better coach.
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And I've seen you on the Nike.
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I was able to learn from you at the highest level with Nike, St.
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Louis, and Nike in the Peach Jam.
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Tell us about what you were doing and how you were able to inspire the next generation.
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Oh, you left out uh uh Ranch Cucamonga up there in California when you came out to uh yes, yes.
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Gary that was Kobe's last uh time showing up and speaking to our young.
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Oh, yes, yes.
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You know, God rests goodness.
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Again, fortunate because of uh the relationships we built growing up, Howard White being uh one of the CFOs, chief operators for Jordan Brand, and John Lucas, a guy I competed against when he was with Houston, but him and my dad played tennis together when he was at the University of Maryland.
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So, you know, it's just layers on layers of how these relationships just kind of coincide and work.
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But now I'm the assistant coach at Landon University in Greenwood, South Carolina, um, where our men's team just played for the national championship.
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We've got a women's program that's growing and climbing.
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And, you know, I've been fortunate, man, to be in that, be involved in basketball at every level.
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Middle school coach, high school coach, again, uh contract worker with Nike.
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I never was an employee of Nike, but you know, favor opportunity gave me a chance to work as a contract worker for some of their uh skills academies, starting with the EYBL, then into LeBron Skilled Academy, uh Amari Stalinmeyer's.
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Tell us some names.
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You you just you just dropped those names.
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Give us for the listener out there, Mike, because you're real humble.
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Tell them some of the people you work with or ran the camps for.
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Give us some names real quick.
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Oh my God.
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I mean, working with uh Darren Williams and God, we're praying for him right now that he overcome some of his health issues that he's having.
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But Duron Williams, Darren Williams, some people call him Duron, uh working alongside Bench Carter and the Mari Stodemise, working Kevin Durant's skill academies, both the ones in uh Chicago and the one we did.
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Chris Paul Chris Paul's uh uh uh skills academies, then LeBron.
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Let me ask you, what did you learn about yourself?
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What did you learn about these great basketball minds?
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So, what did you learn being around the best of the best?
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You know, the interesting thing is we all share something in common, and that's love for people, not just the game and the relationships.
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Like, you know, here these guys are uh megastars, and they've got all these people acquiring something.
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Here we are sitting in the lobby after camp, just talking, talking shot, getting their getting their workouts early, talking about free throws, talking about touch, um, talking about the minor details that a lot of athletes today kind of skip over because everybody's looking for the highlight.
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But what gives these young men, and what gives Chris Paul and what gave uh Chris Paul and what gave um uh uh Vince Carter and what gave what's giving LeBron James a longevity is your love and respect for the game of those people that came before.
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I I begin it.
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We live in a society where everything's microwavable and we want stuff quick and we only want 30-second clips.
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But LeBron was a guy that listen, man, he was sick.
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I mean, you got guys in the camp with like Jay Bills, Craig Elo, um, um, I'm sorry, Rasheed Wallace, Corey Alexander, Junior Rose.
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You got him.
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John Lucas, the great John Lucas.
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You but you got him, you got Todd Day, you you got just guys that got different experiences, and LeBron just sitting there taking it all in.
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My goodness.
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Not an expert, not acting like, you know, the person that society makes him to be now, but just really listening to the conversation, asking questions, absorbing the details of it, and then moving on.
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And him, you know, coming and playing with the kids, spending time with them, talking about minor details, kind of like what you saw with Kobe and Michael.
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You know, we we meet the media hits Jordan and LeBron against each other because they want to label somebody the greatest.
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But both of these men, the eras where they played dominated the game at some level.
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So we want to give credence and we want to give credit, like the Bible says, give honor to who minors do.
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And both of them deserve honor for affecting the game of basketball in a way that, you know, just changed uh the game, how we know it.
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And as it grows and as it continues to evolve, I'm so fortunate and blessed to have an opportunity to be involved in it, now on the women's side, but still, you know, the game that we love and has done so much to provide opportunities for you and I to have relationships that have been, you know, lifelong.
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You know, it it's interesting.
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I want to go back because you've spoken to at least a half a million people.
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Uh, we've both been privileged to go shoulder to shoulder telling our story.
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But then even in your personal life, you practice what you preach because you were a single dad growing up your awesome daughter, Joanna, Joanna and Joanna Joy.
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And you were a single dad for many, many years.
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And then a proud, uh, proud graduate of Nick, who just graduated, but for what, the first seven to 12 years of your life, you didn't even know you had a wonderful son.
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Tell us a little bit about that.
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Now you're blessed with four children and a grand baby as well.
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So tell us a little bit about the family and how you celebrate that because you practice what you preach.
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Yeah, well, we we've got 12 hours, and Johanna will be 32 years old.
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Oh goodness.
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I'm just again honored and blessed to have been able to um be chosen as her father.
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Um, as you know, we adopted her when we were playing in Australia.
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Yeah.
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And my
daughter was born in Australia, so you've been a Uncle, I've been an uncle, we all connected here.
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Let's go.
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You know, life happens and things change.
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And my my first wife and I, we didn't work out, but we got a beautiful adopted daughter out of it.
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And then my current wife, I was able to marry um in early 2008.
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Now we've been married almost 19 years.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Little KK, who's a graduate.
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She just graduated.
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McKay.
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She'll be graduating uh in in May, May, May 19th, May 16th, May 19th, May 19th.
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Just be there.
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Just be ready by the 15th.
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You're good.
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Just be ready by the 15th.
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Well, yeah, man, you know, again, man, the um having such a strong family and a community.
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You know, you've been through all the all the ups and the downs with me, and having good people in my life that I can come to and talk through situations.
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Community is just so important.
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And having that type of community that never accepted excuses, that constantly said, hey, this may be tough right now, buddy, but you got to get back on your feet.
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Because not only do you have mouths to feed, but they're looking at you.
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Well, they're they're looking at you to be an example.
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So if you give up doing these troubles, uh, it's not gonna be a good look.
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And so thank you for your encouragement.
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Thank you for your prayers.
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Thank you for your constant calls and checks.
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And, you know, now as I sit here as a grandfather of one, father of four, my wife had a daughter when we got married.
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I had Johanna.
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And then I find out, you know, seven years later that I had a son who just graduated from the University of South Carolina, and he was a photographer for Michaela's a graduation picture.
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It's just a beautiful thing.
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You you're the you're the girl dad, like I'm the girl there.
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You've got three daughters and a son.
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So, you know, Laura's been good, man.
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He's really blessed me.
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I got a wife that supports me in the things I do, and she really works really hard to keep our family uh going when I'm out on the road traveling and
recruiting.
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And, you know, again, it's just more than I deserve.
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And uh I constantly just thank God daily for this gift of life that He's given me.
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For our listeners out there, I hope you run this program back because Coach Mike is talking about hey, it's not perfect.
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It's not a crime if you fall down, get back up.
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He he he met his son.
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His son is a beautiful young man.
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He just graduated and was taking photos of his sister's graduation.
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And Coach Mike, through the Lord, has been the glue that keeps that together.
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Tell us about you being the co-founder for GYU, Gap Year Unveiled.
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Boy, I know that's gonna be good.
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Tell us about that.
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So we we literally just launched this non-popular.
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We got our 5013 back in September.
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Uh, so we'll be having a collective event this summer, hopefully.
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Um, myself and Monique Epps are the founders.
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I'm the co-founder, she's a founder.
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Cedric Bonner is another original board member or help founding as well.
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And the concept is helping athletes doing the transition away or after sports.
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Maybe they'll be going into a different field, maybe they'll be continuing uh in the sport, but maybe no longer as a player, with the climate and the uh culture of sports the way it is, and so many people transferring them, not having that background and that uh not not having the uh the support once they get finished plan because maybe they weren't at that school for four years.
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We become a resource to help them with uh mentors, with counseling, with uh career development facilitations and discoverment.
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But our our true goal is to help these young people transition and understand that you're you are always more than an athletic.
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Athletics defines so many of us for way too long because we put it in the wrong place in our lives and understanding who God created us to be and how we can use the talents and the gifts and not be used by them to the detriment of our mental health and our spiritual development.
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It's important that there are people around these young people that have experienced some of the similar things, but also have access and resources to people that can relate or can lead them in a different direction to help them further their career and live the latter years better than they're formerly.
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You know, it's interesting.
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I just wrote down something again where you just said, use your gifts, don't let your gifts use you.
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And I think it was a defining moment when you were really trying to work on your identity and push through your frustration.
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Go back to when you were at Riverdale Baptist and you said there was a speaker that came in that changed your life and talked about choices, who you're gonna serve.
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Yeah.
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So the at Riverdale Baptist was a Christian school and it was a part of Riverdale Baptist Church, and every Tuesday we had chapel.
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So this Tuesday was a guy by the name of Andy Kaufman.
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It's so interesting because if you guys are uh uh Christian music lovers, there was a guy that went to my school, him and his sister, the Tate family, Michael Tate, who was a part of DC Talk.
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I'm taking you way back now.
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He was one of my classmates.
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He was one of the students at Riverdale Baptist.
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But anyway, this Sunday, him and his sister would always sing for chapel and just anointed singers, just angelic voices.
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But Andy Kaufman gave us a message that that Tuesday.
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And one of the things he said, you know, God puts before you a choice of life and death and says, choose you this day who you will serve.
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Will it be God or will it be man?
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And then he ended the script, he ended the thing with, you know, if you confess me before man, I'll confess you before your father.
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And he just gave us an invitation.
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Who wants to choose to confess God before your classmates today?
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And without hesitation, the Lord threw me and I stood up and I walked up front, gave my life to Christ.
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And it was so amazing, Adrian, because from that day forth, the dyslexia and the comprehension issues were in his bad.
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Now, of course, there were things that I still had to go through.
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I had to take the help that I was getting.
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But how can you explain within a two year's time?
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I left there as a ninth grade.
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I went there from the eighth and ninth grade, from the 10th grade to the time I graduated.
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I never missed a day of school at Northwestern, and I was a principal's honorary student for the rest of my time there.
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In order to get a scholarship to Loyola, they told me I had like a 3.1 or better.
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I did that all four
semesters, all four quarters, and then I was given an opportunity to go and take summer school classes in another true statement, A.
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B.
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I didn't sign my letter of intent to Loyola until August.
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And most kids wouldn't take that risk.
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They had just choose a lesser.
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But I don't know.
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I just like to say that, you know, only the Spirit of God did what he did for me.
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And I'm so grateful that I followed him and allowed him to leave me.
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But that message that Andy gave me that day changed my life.
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And it changed my family because as soon as I gave my life to the Lord, I went home to call my mom.
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She rededicated her life to the Lord, my dad did.
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And here's a family that, you know, enjoyed life.
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And we made a lot of life changes as a family.
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And my mom is 89 now, my dad is 88.
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You know, I'm just so blessed to still have them in my life right now.
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Oh my goodness, for our climbers out there.
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Mike, you're you're you're saying so much that uh as soon as you said uh when you gave your heart to Jesus, I'm thinking about the Bible verse that says, Don't be conformed to this world, be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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And it sounds like literally your mind was shifting for the positive, though you still had to work.
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This is one of my favorite segments of this entire show.
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And this is my little speed round.
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So I want to ask you a couple of questions if that's okay, and see what's one of the first things that come to your mind when we speak.
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So, you ready?
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I'm ready.
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Take a shot on this one.
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All right, here we go.
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Success.
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Failure, failure.
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Stepping should basketball.
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Dyslexia.
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Not like threatening.
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Someone saying no.
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One step closer to the next, yes.
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Accountability.
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Required.
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NBA.
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Fantastic.
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I stole it out with that.
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We'll go with that.
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We're gonna we're gonna stop it right there.
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Hey, hey, Mike, before we let
you go, uh, the the listeners out there, I hope for the Michael out out there, the Michelle out there, dyslexia, or if you're dealing with a challenge, it's not the end of the road.
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It may be a pothole or obstacle, but you're hearing Coach Mike and he's saying, don't quit.
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Coach, before we let you go, what's one thing you would say to our listeners to encourage them to keep climbing?
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I have a tattoo on my arm that's Philippians 4.13 that says, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
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When I first got it, I got it because of the things I wanted.
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But the thing that we all need more than anything else is the ability to know that we can overcome things with help.
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There's nothing that we can overcome on our long, on our own.
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And the greatest help we can have is that from our Lord and personal Savior Jesus Christ.
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There's no other help, there's no other truth, there's no other way besides Him.
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Many things in this world will try to emulate Him, and in many things we'll try to impersonate Him.
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There's nothing like I'm a living witness, I'm a living testimony, and I pray that my life is a living sacrifice to what he can do.
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Um, I wouldn't be having this conversation with Adrian, it would be totally different had Christ not intervened and provided for me the answers to those things that I didn't know that I could do.
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And again, it didn't excuse me from going through them, but I'm so glad that I didn't give up when uh things around me told me that I shouldn't.
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So you can do all things to Christ who strengthens you, but just remember those things are persevering, enduring, and overcoming those life issues and stuff.
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You touched my heart here.
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I'm ready to cry, but we're on on uh on camera right now.
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You touch my heart here.
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That is so believable, man.
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Uh, thanks for coming on our show.
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We'll have to do this again, Coach Mike.
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Anytime, man.
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Thank you so much, man.
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And thanks, Boo.
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I know you're in the background, man.
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Thanks for keeping Fox straight.
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We will see you again with Coach Mike, folks.
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That is wonderful.
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I hope for our listeners out there, you've been inspired today because there were so many touchdowns uh points that he was saying with being uh a guy that just doesn't quit.
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He knows he has challenges, but Christ made a difference in his life.
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And now I want to encourage everybody, if you guys really enjoyed today and want to know more about what we're doing in a champion's mindset, head on over to AdrianBranchSpeaks.com.
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Follow us on social media at Adrian BranchSpeaks, where we have workshops and other information that can really encourage you and download the climb wherever podcasts are available.
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Listen, my audience, you guys are the best.
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We never get tired of doing this.
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And like we like to say around here, remember, be encouraged and keep climbing.
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We'll see you next time, everybody.