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Welcome to the Derek Loudermilk Show. At the edge of possibility,
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we fuse science, spirit, and adventure alongside healers, scientists, pioneers,
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and mystics to turn potential into practice, create real results.
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Subscribe and join me.
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On the adventure. Alex Stefan, welcome to the show.
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Nice. Thank you, Derek. That was perfect pronunciation. Thank you.
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Okay, great.
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So we'll start with telekinesis, but then we'll move into
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other topics because that's where I first became aware of
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you was sticking cards to the wall.
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And what's up with that? Tell me a little bit
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about it. Yeah, why you're all over the social media
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sticking cards to the wall.
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I'm guessing the video you saw was probably the tutorial one.
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Like I'm sticking them to a wardrobe, I think it was.
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Yep, and they fall down and you're like, but that's okay,
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but here's something else to try.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good one. That was
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a good video. It got out quite a bit. A
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lot of people saw that. So... I think that is
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a really good entry for anybody into the psychic skills
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or just the, let's say, you know, the paranormal or
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the parapsychology domain because it's a phenomena that happens really,
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really easily, especially once you've seen it, once you've seen
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somebody do it. there's something that happens that the brain
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is more easily able to access that ability or that skill,
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whatever it is. I'm happy to go into that stuff
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because I don't think it's quite so cut and dry.
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But that's an easy one to access. And I posted
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that because people started doing it. If you check out
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that video in the comments, there's tons of people that
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I said, oh my God, I did it. I did
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it on my first try or did it on my
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third try. Or... I had one lady who reached out.
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She's like, I couldn't do it. You know, what am
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I supposed to do? And I'm like, okay, well, how
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many times did you try? And she said, well, you know,
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I kind of went through a deck of cards. It
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was like a few minutes. And I'm like, really? Like,
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you have, you know, we're, the intention is to, I guess,
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break the matrix or get out of the matrix. You know,
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what we think as being physical reality and the confines
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and the restrictions that exist. And then we're only going
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to give it, like, 52 chances because it's 52 cards
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in the deck. Like, you know, when I had to
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do this, I must have done 400 or something. So
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I told her, like, I told her my story. Like,
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I did it at least 400 times before it finally, like,
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just stuck a little bit. And then it started getting
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easier and easier and easier. And I'm like, just, you know,
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get back to it.
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It's okay.
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Keep going. And she did. And it worked for her.
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Oh.
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Oh, good. Wow. Yeah.
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So.
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my report is that I've tried it twice, um, gone
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through a deck twice and I, I.
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Feel that it should be sticking.
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Like it feels like it wants to stick and it
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seems like I perceive reality that is sticking, but it's
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still falling. So I'm like, Oh, that's really interesting. But
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my daughter who's seven, she tried it the first time
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and it stuck for like seven seconds and then it
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started falling regularly.
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And I was like, Oh, that's interesting. Um, so yeah,
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I'm going to, I'm going to keep trying.
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I did some right before this call just to see if,
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if I could get it to work. Um, cause I
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could imagine, you know, having a bunch of stuff stuck
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to the wall and having it be totally normal.
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Um, yeah, it's so fascinating. What does it feel like
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for you when you get something to stick?
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There is, there's something that's, that kind of almost like
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locks in. I have a kinesthetic
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feeling that almost locks
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in when something is going to be sticking. But my
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advice here, because I train people to do these kinds
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of things. So I don't know how it works, but
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I have lots of observations of how this thing works.
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So I can't explain to you how. I have theories
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about it. But what's important here, and the reason I'm
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saying that is don't try to use my... method or
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my strategy necessarily. Don't necessarily look for something that locks in.
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You'll develop your own sense of how this works. This
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is this kind of stuff. So previously on my, on
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my trainings, when I was doing just telekinesis trainings in Australia,
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I would start the training off saying, although I called
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this a training, this really is more of an exploration.
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It's more of an exploration of you. It's an exploration
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of who you are, what you do, what you are about.
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Because I want to get it across right from the
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beginning that I don't hold the answers to how this happens.
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You have those answers for how this happens for you.
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So anybody doing any of these kinds of skills, it's
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important to pay attention to what's happening with yourself and
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be open to how it happens for you. And yes, absolutely,
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listen to how other people do things, what their strategies are,
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what their experiences are, because that kind of stuff helps
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you pick that up. I don't know if... I'm believing
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more and more that there's a field, you know, that
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there's energy. I mean, I do believe it. I can't
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prove it, though. And what seems to happen, what I've
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observed to happen is the more people lock in with
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their consciousness, the more they put their awareness on what
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they're looking to do, the more they're able to pick
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that up somehow. It's almost, I imagine, I suppose it's
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something like there's a transference of energy or there's a
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transference of information just by placing your awareness on somebody
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that's doing it. So somebody that's watching that video, when
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they see me do it later on at the end
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of the video, or I have other videos as well,
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just by placing your awareness on me, me doing it,
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I suspect there might be some sort of a transference
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of information. And that seems to make sense, and a
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lot of people talk about that sort of stuff, but
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I'm always careful to not... to mention when it's a
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belief of mine, and it's not something that's factual or proven.
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It's reminding me of mirror neurons. Like, when.
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I'm thinking of body language training, like when you... are
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sort of pacing somebody else and then they can sort
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of like fall in, you can tell when they're sort
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of mirroring, like you take a body position and then
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a few seconds later they take the same body position
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and you know that they're like unconsciously receiving that.
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Could be similar.
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Yeah, yeah, 100%. So it is the same thing and
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it's not just about that body, let's say that synchronization
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that happens between two people that has a lot to
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do with getting into rapport with someone, and that's a
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very unconscious thing, so you're kind of, you start talking
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in a similar way, you start talking with similar cadence,
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start having similar postures, and that's because, that's when two
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people get in a very high level of synchronization, of
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resonance with each other, and there's also mirror neurons firing
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off there as well, but like, A very simple thing
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is like mirror neurons firing off when we're young, when
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we're babies, when we're kids, when we're toddlers and we're
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learning a skill. So you can watch people playing a
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sport and you get better at playing that sport by
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watching them play that sport because your body, we have
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this innate skill called modeling and I use a lot
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of this in my trainings as well. I get people
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into this modeling state to open up,
open up their periphery,
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open up their their body. You don't want to be
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in a state of inner dialogue. You don't want to
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be in a state of tension. And when you have
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that opened up and you're watching other people do phenomenal feats,
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your body, your mind is picking on that as well.
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And this is completely natural. So we have this ability
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since we're kids. That's how kids learn languages really easily.
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That's how kids learn to do everything. And I use
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this example in my training where when I'm trying to
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explain this, because almost most everyone has had this kind
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of experience, and I invite you even to reflect, and
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anybody listening to reflect, sometimes we've seen an action, a
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physical action happen. And in my case, I saw this
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video of this kid that must have been like 10,
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maybe 11, 12, and he's holding a baseball bat, and
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somebody pitches a ball, And this kid does the most,
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the smoothest, most beautiful swing and hits the ball and
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like knocks it out of the park. And then he
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even has like a little flashy thing at the end. Like,
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you know, he's like looking at it and like, like
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a sniper or something. And he throws the bat. It was,
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it was so fluid and beautiful. The whole, the whole piece.
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And because I was in a state of awe when
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I saw that, because it was so fluid and beautiful.
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When I rewatched it, I was completely open. And I
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could feel my body almost doing that action. There was
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a very subtle feeling of me doing the action. And again,
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I invite everybody to reflect on if you must have
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had this sort of experience and it's just about remembering it.
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And years later, I was at a company party. We
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were doing like one of those day events. There's barbecue.
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There's also sports and stuff. And this was in the
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UK while I was in London. And we were playing
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something called, what is it called? Cricket? Not cricket. No, no, no,
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It's kind of like baseball, but it's with a slightly
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bigger ball. And it's, I can't remember. Softball? It's kind
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of like softball. And anyway, it doesn't matter. The name
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has to do something with running around the bases. Anyway,
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point is, I'm up to bat. And I remember that.
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And I'm like, let me see if I can lock
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into that. And I don't play baseball. And I lock
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into that. I feel that. They pitch the ball and
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I hit it. And I hit it like so out
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of the park. Like it's completely gone. Everybody gets... Rounders,
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that's what it's called. Rounders, because you're going around.
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Ah, rounders. Okay.
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And we get a bunch of points. But I don't
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play baseball, you know? And the movement that I had
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was really, really smooth and was really similar to the
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one that I've seen, that I saw in that video
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many years ago. So... This principle of modeling, this innate
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skill that we have, is something that I utilize a
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lot in trainings and that I encourage everybody to utilize
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for themselves when they're watching videos of people doing things.
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They want to pick it up and attain, acquire that skill.
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Yeah, that sounds like an amazing benefit. You mentioned being
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in a state of awe. Is that where you guide people,
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like in your trainings, into that type of state?
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So I do a lot of things because my background
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is in hypnosis and also NLP. And the basis of NLP,
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neurolinguistic programming, is modeling. So NLP was started by... two, three,
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three individuals that were modeling some of the best therapists
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and were trying to get similar results as these incredible therapists,
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these change workers, Fritz Perl, Virginia Milton Erickson, and they
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started applying this modeling technique, or they kind of discovered
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this modeling technique by modeling these therapists and getting the
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same results that nobody else could get even after being
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mentored by these therapists and trying to to learn it consciously.
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Because that's the key. That's the key difference. You can
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consciously try to pick up a skill and you can
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see what you can do with that. Or you can
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unconsciously pick it up through modeling and actually learn it
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and embody that. So there's a very big difference between
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knowing something consciously and being able to do something consciously
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and knowing it unconsciously and actually doing it fully unconsciously.
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So in the trainings, I use my... my skills in
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hypnosis and NLP to take people through different kinds of states.
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So there's more relaxed states, more trance states. I utilize
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those a lot to open up their beliefs because really
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what we have is most of our attendees are, you know,
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30 and upwards. So there's at least two, three decades
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of conditioning of how this physical reality works. quote-unquote, physical
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reality is supposed to work. So much of my work
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is around telling stories. I'm telling metaphors, things that happened
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to me personally, but there's an underlying... There's other things
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that I'm doing there. I'm providing people with these moments
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of insights for, not for their conscious minds, but for
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their unconscious minds to start to change and reformulate... their
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core beliefs and their foundational beliefs that they have about
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this world, because I don't believe these are skills, although
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they're called skills. I believe these are actually inherently in
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us and alien us. We have these, all of these things,
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and it's just about being able to believe that you
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can do it and then just doing it.
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Do you have a, recorded audio program for people that
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could like just take and listen to you do the
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same sort of, um, modeling or getting people in the
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right state, um, for people to do at home?
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That's a great idea. I do not. That's a good idea.
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I have been thinking of doing like an online thing
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and providing people with some hypnosis sessions that they can
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just listen to.
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Because it sounds like really what you do is you're,
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you get them into the right state of, where they
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can experiment with these things and find their own way
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of doing, uh, so we've.
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Talked about telekinesis. Um, there's also telepathy.
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What other skills or activities does this encompass for you?
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There's quite a few. It depends on how you, how
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you like dice it up. Um, my usual frame, and
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I just want everybody to, um, I want people to
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be aware that this is a frame that I have.
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So again, I'm not sure if this is correct or not.
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This is just how I organize things and I find
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it to be useful. So this is what I'll offer
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for people is I see skills to be divided up
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into either influencing what we call reality or intuiting about reality.
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And influencing is any sort of skill or anything that
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you're doing to change matter or to change events or probabilities.
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Intuiting is everything to do with receiving information from reality,
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wherever it is.
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So it's like a masculine outward facing and a feminine
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sort of inner receptive type of.
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Yeah, that would seem to be an intuitive kind of organization.
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Although I don't want to, I'd be careful about saying
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that because there might be some preconceptions that might come
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with that. And I don't want to limit anybody's experience.
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So I don't believe any frame is, no frame is true,
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is 100% true, but some are more useful than others.
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and intuiting being feminine, and which is a very, that
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feels right. If we think that way, then we might think, okay,
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if I need to influence something, then I need to
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have force or effort because that's another commonly associated trait
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with the masculine, whereas with the feminine, it's about receiving
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and being not doing something. So on that point, when
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we are doing things in a training, there's nobody forcing
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anything or efforting anything. I don't teach it that way.
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I know I have a lot of people that come
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to me with an energy work background or with like
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a cheap background. They've learned to use their dantians to
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force energy in the lower dantian or to move energy
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and oftentimes it can be strenuous. And I do see
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this in the first few days where somebody might be
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straining to move something or they might be creating a
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lot of effort. Personally, I don't find that that works
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any better. Oftentimes I find that to work less efficiently,
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less effectively. Although I do know that there are people
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that have a lot of success with that as well.
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So I just want to be careful about what sort
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of associations some models might have or some frameworks might have.
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And with regard with your question, so the kind of
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psychic ability. So you have the influencing, the intuitive, the intuiting.
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Within influencing, you have the bigger thing, which is psychokinesis.
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And that's manipulation of matter. Any sort of manipulation. Within that,
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there's telekinesis, which is moving matter at a distance. And
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that's what you would have seen maybe a lot on videos,
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like moving a side wheel, or moving a can, or
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rolling a ball, or something like that. The bigger one,
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the bigger umbrella is We've done stuff like magnetizing metal, uh,
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magnetizing things that are not magnetizable as well. Like, uh,
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different things, creating static electricity to use that to move things. Um,
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we've done stuff like the sticking to walls. That's, that's really,
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you know, we have a lot of fun with that.
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That one's really quick to pick up as well. Really,
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really quick to pick up. And I, I really encourage you.
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You had a great idea to have, uh, you said
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your
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Yeah.
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And you said she's eight.
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She's seven.
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And she has, uh, You know, like we've done the
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blindfold reading with her and she picked it up right away.
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So she's a quick study.
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That's amazing. Yeah, I encourage anybody that has access to
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children to show them this, to play around with this.
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And then you'll learn it as well more quickly. Then
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in the last one, we've also had people pushing needles through...
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different kinds of objects with the biggest one being a
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table a very thick table so pushing a needle through
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that we've had with playing playing around with like organic
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like putting back basically fruits together so that they're keeled basically.
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Like you slice them in half and then re reconstitute.
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Exactly. So if you imagine we had, um, we had
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like a cucumber, some had a cucumber, some had a zucchini.
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We sliced it in half, but at an angle so
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that when we put it back, it was like that
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a little bit. Oh, and then we said the intention,
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had everybody in a bit of a group, set the intention.
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Everybody was going to heal it as much as they could.
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Everybody was healing it. And then at the end, we
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had like a competition for everybody to see how much
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it could hold. And then we had a plastic bag
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on top and we started pouring things in the cucumber
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that the cucumber was holding or the zucchini was holding.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Huh.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I never would have thought of some of
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these things like pushing a needle through a table. Or
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rehealing a, like, where do you come up with these ideas?
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A lot of these are just, they happen kind of
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on the spot a bit intuitively. So we have an idea,
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I want to do something, and then things will just
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kind of manifest by accident. So with the needle idea,
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the plan was actually to push it through glass. And
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we had people pushing it through paper cups first and
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plastic cups and doing some other things, getting used to it.
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And nobody could quite do the glass yet. And then
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somebody was like, let me see if I can do
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it to the table. And then, then somebody else saw
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that they were trying to do. And then they were trying.
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And finally somebody got it straight through the table and
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everybody was getting it through the table. Wow. Um, we had, um, we,
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we also had, so this is, this is, this was the, um,
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the really big one. Um, We had, and this didn't
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happen just this training. In the first training, we had
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this happening as well. But this second one, we had
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a lot of people teleporting pennies and other objects. And
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what was new in this training was that people ended
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up accidentally duplicating objects.
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Oh, fun.
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We just had a duplication effect last month. We went
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into the closet to grab my daughter's jacket.
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And there was two of them.
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No way.
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It was like, Yeah, like.
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Two– and it was like the one– like we buy
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all the clothes in one order from Old Navy or something.
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This was like the one jacket where her grandmother got
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it from like a fancy store. And so we've never
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seen another one of these. And then now there's two
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of them.
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And it's like, what are the chances?
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Wow, that's– you should be.
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So we filled the closet with gold.
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Wow. That's cool. That's very cool. These things start to
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kind of just happen more often once you're in the space.
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Yeah, and that was at a time when I was
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doing a lot of research around reality shifts and the
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Mandela effect and things like that. So it was perfectly
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in line with what I was thinking about.
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Interesting. I've just been kind of
looking a little bit
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more into the Mandela effect. Um, did you hear about
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how they, a lot of, um, the reason a lot
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of these Abrahamic religions have people that are, they're specific
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and their only job is to memorize the book word
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for word and that the reason they do that, or
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there was a conversation, an interview that they had with,
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with one, I think it was, um, I think it
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might have been Islamic. He said because sometimes the book
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changes and the only way to know if what is
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the real one is based on the memory because the
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memory can't change. They can change the past, but they
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can't change the memory of any conscious being. Whoa.
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That is, I haven't heard that, but that is, wow.
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Yeah.
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Yes, of course that could happen.
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Yeah.
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And it does, there's, you know, people who have tracked
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changes in the Bible.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, very interesting.
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What's the interesting stuff that you came up with when
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researching that?
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I mean, it's so fun because now it's in pop
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culture and it's like something that everyone has.
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Some manner of relation.
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I mean, I always learn more about the very original
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Mandela effect or like the one.
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That got its name. It was.
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reporters from countries outside of South Africa that were sent
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to cover his death. They were there on the ground
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reporting on Mandela dying in prison. And then they were
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sent back to cover his inauguration as president. And they
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were like, how is this possible? We were reporters covering it.
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And so that really blew their minds. And then a
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whole group of these reporters sort of coined the term
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but of course it's been happening the whole time but
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enough you know people brought awareness.
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To it.
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There's also like quite a lot of instances of people
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being alive again so not just Nelson Mandela but like
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yeah like someone will be like you know I remember
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when you died you were really sick and you died
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a few years ago and I'm like so happy to
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find that you're alive again And yeah, there's tons and
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tons of reports.
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Of these things happening. What do you chalk that up
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to be?
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Oh, gosh.
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It's something I'm pondering because there's a similar experience of
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when people are about to essentially perish in a car accident.
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And it's a moment of impact and they close their
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eyes and they're like, this is it. And then they
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open their eyes and they're like 50 feet away.
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I've heard of these. Yeah.
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Teleported to safety.
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And the, I guess my prevailing thought is that, that,
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that they actually did die in that or that timeline
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ended that collapses. And they're like shifted into the most
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proximal timeline. Their, their main awareness is just like bounced
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to the next most relevant timeline.
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Hmm.
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I have a little bit of insight on this. Lidu,
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who's Dolly's daughter, who I mentioned earlier, she's telepathic. She's
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a non-speaker, an autistic non-speaker. And she's really in tune
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and can pick up a lot of stuff that has
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happened in the past, a lot of stuff that's currently happening.
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They're doing a lot of research on her. She's working
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with a lot of researchers to validate the telepathy, and
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she has been validating it all. You can find her
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on telepathy tapes. They're making a documentary. She's on Superhumans 2.
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We were at the filming together.
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Is that Caroline Corey's project?
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Yeah, Caroline Corey's project, yeah. Okay. They're doing a few
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other things as well. I can attest she's an absolutely
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incredible girl. Incredible human being, incredible beyond
human being. I
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know that she said that she's able to change the past.
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And that there's beings that are able to change the past.
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But the thing that cannot be changed is the memory,
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the consciousness. So reality, the past could be changed, but
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your memory or your consciousness cannot be changed, which I
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find interesting.
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There's physics experiments that have proven retrocausality, like the delayed
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choice observer effect. You can, yeah, backwards influence through time
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whether a particle becomes a particle.
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Or stays as a wave.
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When.
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when before they thought it was just for it. So yeah,
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that's sort of hints to me. Like if we're in
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the present, if everything is the ever present now and
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it's just like us, our memories are just like a
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series of events, but it's not an actual linear time stream,
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then that.
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Would make sense that you can focus backwards and forwards.
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Um, And I've heard lots of stories of people changing
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00:29:05.500 --> 00:29:08.500
the physical past, like the evidence from the past. Like
484
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.539
a photo album is different once they've done, you know,
485
00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:14.650
inner work and things like that.
486
00:29:15.210 --> 00:29:15.690
Cool.
487
00:29:16.390 --> 00:29:21.269
What does Leedu say about how to change the past?
488
00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:24.309
We didn't ask her how to change the past. That's
489
00:29:24.349 --> 00:29:28.440
a good question, though. I like that question. We didn't
490
00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:31.339
ask her. So she uses a spelling board, like.
491
00:29:35.950 --> 00:29:38.359
Like, if you have something, she'll point to the letters
492
00:29:38.380 --> 00:29:42.480
to spell something out. and that's how she communicates and
493
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.609
yeah it can show me has about like a 30
494
00:29:45.609 --> 00:29:49.109
or 45 minutes capacity to to be spelling before it's
495
00:29:49.130 --> 00:29:53.250
quite it's quite physically draining for her so sure um
496
00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:56.509
It's not as easy as like, you know, us chatting
497
00:29:56.529 --> 00:29:58.029
and like, hey, so how do you do that? It
498
00:29:58.049 --> 00:30:00.029
takes a little bit more, but that's a really good question.
499
00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:04.250
And we do, like on our trainings, she comes to
500
00:30:04.269 --> 00:30:07.549
our
trainings and kind of almost every day, we do
501
00:30:07.609 --> 00:30:09.410
about 30 minutes or 45 minutes of like a Q
502
00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:10.019
& A for people.
503
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:11.559
Oh, wow.
504
00:30:12.500 --> 00:30:16.819
Yeah. Wow, what an amazing bonus for people.
505
00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:17.859
Huge, huge.
506
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.799
She adds so much because seeing her do these things
507
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:22.769
is very.
508
00:30:24.579 --> 00:30:28.980
Is awe inspiring and it really changes. It shifts your
509
00:30:29.049 --> 00:30:31.920
own beliefs for what's possible. It's like you, you're seeing
510
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.390
a miracle happen in front of you. And more than
511
00:30:35.410 --> 00:30:41.170
that is she's also, um, she's also actively opening everybody
512
00:30:41.309 --> 00:30:47.470
up on the trainings. So that's why she really pushed
513
00:30:47.650 --> 00:30:51.150
us to do these trainings, Dolly and I, um, and,
514
00:30:51.289 --> 00:30:56.680
and to include telepathy in the trainings. And, um, Her mission,
515
00:30:56.900 --> 00:30:59.339
our mission is to do these, to be able to
516
00:30:59.420 --> 00:31:06.650
open people up to what's possible and ascend or expand,
517
00:31:06.890 --> 00:31:09.450
elevate their consciousness. Or maybe elevate isn't the right word
518
00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:13.289
because that suggests elevation is necessarily better. And I'm starting
519
00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:17.869
to really feel like that's not doing away with all
520
00:31:18.049 --> 00:31:21.619
forms of duality necessarily, but to open people up more.
521
00:31:25.890 --> 00:31:26.170
Yeah.
522
00:31:26.390 --> 00:31:28.210
Um, I want to, I want to ask you more
523
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:31.140
about that in a second, but I was actually just
524
00:31:31.180 --> 00:31:34.019
talking to my, I have a, another friend, Dita Young,
525
00:31:34.220 --> 00:31:38.759
who's her son is a nonverbal, uh, autist as well.
526
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.440
They've been on the telepathy tape, so you may be
527
00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:44.309
familiar with them. And I was asking her like what
528
00:31:44.410 --> 00:31:50.470
she sees as like the ways that these nonverbal, um,
529
00:31:50.930 --> 00:31:58.799
people will be contributing, um, Because I feel like in
530
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:00.880
the past we were like, how are we going to
531
00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:05.519
fit them in with our society at large? And clearly
532
00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:09.700
there's like amazing insight potential that they can tap into.
533
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.359
What other ways do you see.
534
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.019
People that are either nonverbal autists or on the spectrum
535
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.079
contributing to our society? collective and ways that we might
536
00:32:25.099 --> 00:32:27.119
not have, sort of non-obvious ways.
537
00:32:27.609 --> 00:32:32.230
Yeah, so she's doing, and they are doing, a lot
538
00:32:32.250 --> 00:32:36.130
of work behind the scenes to make things happen. They're
539
00:32:36.210 --> 00:32:39.119
constantly working away, if you've heard of The Hill, which
540
00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:43.960
is this kind of location in I don't know, in
541
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.339
maybe astral plane, etheric plane, on another plane, on a
542
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.869
different kind of dimension, where they get together and they're teaching,
543
00:32:53.049 --> 00:32:57.410
they're sharing, they're bringing a lot of us up there already.
544
00:32:57.490 --> 00:32:59.529
So this has been happening in the last few weeks, actually,
545
00:32:59.569 --> 00:33:04.430
where there's been an awakening happening where they've been bringing
546
00:33:04.470 --> 00:33:06.710
people up there and helping them.
547
00:33:07.750 --> 00:33:10.509
I thought that it was kind of like if you're
548
00:33:10.529 --> 00:33:13.240
a normal... person don't don't try to go.
549
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.720
There yeah so there's the hill is heavily guarded by
550
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.500
different beings and entities and you know if you have
551
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.859
the right intentions or if you're supposed to be there
552
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:25.140
then you'll be able to be there but you don't
553
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.269
need to intentionally do anything if when it's meant to
554
00:33:28.309 --> 00:33:33.130
happen it's it'll happen for everyone gotcha yeah okay and
555
00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:35.950
they've been they've been working with teachers they've been working
556
00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:38.829
with guides to set things up to make things happen
557
00:33:39.509 --> 00:33:43.579
um to putting all the right pieces together for things
558
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.140
to happen. So the training that Dali and I have
559
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.039
done was, I think, divinely guided by them and by
560
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:57.890
other beings. The last training as well, other trainings, I
561
00:33:57.930 --> 00:34:00.390
think everything that is happening is happening in exactly the
562
00:34:00.430 --> 00:34:03.309
right way. Like, the last training that we did in
563
00:34:03.329 --> 00:34:08.110
Sedona was, we were witnessing miracles almost every day happening.
564
00:34:08.469 --> 00:34:13.690
It was incredible. And the container that it created for
565
00:34:13.750 --> 00:34:17.940
everyone and how much it's transformed everybody's life and we're
566
00:34:18.420 --> 00:34:21.219
still continuing with everyone. So that can't just happen because
567
00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:25.659
of myself and Dalia. There's a lot more going on.
568
00:34:31.050 --> 00:34:32.510
Can you say any more about what.
569
00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:38.579
The what they're doing on the hill or like what
570
00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:42.619
their actions look like to support your training or like
571
00:34:43.440 -->
00:34:46.489
yeah how that might might be working.
572
00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:48.210
So with the training i think a big part of
573
00:34:48.269 --> 00:34:50.550
it is um making sure that the right people find
574
00:34:50.610 --> 00:34:53.449
out um the right people as in the people that
575
00:34:53.710 --> 00:34:58.630
who's that can take this further because it's about we're
576
00:34:58.650 --> 00:35:01.070
creating in a sense we're creating a movement here everybody
577
00:35:01.110 --> 00:35:06.449
that's part of this is it's um um It's a movement.
578
00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:11.449
We're shifting. We're shifting consciousness. So it's important that people
579
00:35:11.489 --> 00:35:17.260
that want to be part of this, that are willing
580
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.199
to put in the effort, the time as well to
581
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.800
do this, those are people that are coming up. And
582
00:35:24.860 --> 00:35:28.840
I think part of it was to get the right
583
00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.699
people in this first room or in the second room
584
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.900
or in the third room, the fourth room, with divine
585
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:41.079
timing I believe that's part of it another part is
586
00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:44.820
putting all the pieces together finding the right people the
587
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.800
right places, the right place for it because this last
588
00:35:46.820 --> 00:35:48.889
place was incredible it was amazing, it was a beautiful
589
00:35:48.929 --> 00:35:52.449
container but other than that I think there's a lot
590
00:35:52.469 --> 00:35:55.590
happening in terms of them trying to raise the consciousness
591
00:35:55.650 --> 00:36:01.329
of everyone and I hear a lot about that in
592
00:36:01.369 --> 00:36:04.329
the end you know it's there's only so much that
593
00:36:04.349 --> 00:36:08.159
they can do as well. And the rest of it
594
00:36:08.219 --> 00:36:11.360
is up to us. So me being in a state
595
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:17.780
of love, of care, of kindness for those around me,
596
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:19.820
that's the best that I can do. And then try
597
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.559
to help and inspire other people or motivate other people.
598
00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:34.769
Not being, not getting strained or moved necessarily by just
599
00:36:34.989 --> 00:36:36.510
the day to day or, or things that are not,
600
00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:40.130
that are more low vibration, um, because that takes up
601
00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:42.510
time and that isn't allowing me to, or wouldn't allow
602
00:36:42.570 --> 00:36:46.469
us to be the best that we can to, to
603
00:36:46.510 --> 00:36:48.409
help move other people as well in this direction.
604
00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:56.139
Do you have a particular practice that you are.
605
00:36:56.090 --> 00:36:58.760
Doing right now to get into the optimal state?
606
00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:03.929
I don't know what the optimal state is. Um, I
607
00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:08.789
know that I am doing a lot of stuff over
608
00:37:08.829 --> 00:37:14.409
there as well, but that's with my unconscious or my
609
00:37:14.449 --> 00:37:17.119
dream body or whatever that is. I'm not aware. I'm
610
00:37:17.139 --> 00:37:23.719
not consciously doing it. But one of the main things
611
00:37:23.739 --> 00:37:26.619
that I do do is I try to be as
612
00:37:26.659 --> 00:37:30.039
grateful as I can for what's happening, and I try
613
00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:32.199
to be in a state of trust, of trust that
614
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.809
everything is happening the way it's supposed to be. so
615
00:37:35.949 --> 00:37:38.949
in fact I used to I don't anymore but for
616
00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:41.400
about two months or so I had an alarm every
617
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.019
two hours where I would list the last three or
618
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.360
four things that I was grateful for to bring myself
619
00:37:48.420 --> 00:37:52.079
to that place and then also reaffirm that I trust
620
00:37:52.139 --> 00:37:53.820
and I believe that everything is happening exactly as it
621
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.670
should be for the greatest good so.
622
00:37:59.309 --> 00:38:03.510
And that was pretty good training for you yeah.
623
00:38:02.809 --> 00:38:05.860
It helped me really rewire and change the way I
624
00:38:05.889 --> 00:38:10.070
see things. Yeah.
625
00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:13.510
You're reminding me of, of, um, just earlier today I was,
626
00:38:13.530 --> 00:38:17.050
I would text to my wife how grateful I was for,
627
00:38:17.190 --> 00:38:21.519
she's been, you know, running the kids to school and
628
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.059
like just taking care of a lot of stuff. And
629
00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:25.300
I texted her and she was like, I was just
630
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.559
about to text you the same thing. And as I
631
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.400
was walking, I read the message and then I was
632
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:33.829
walking by this local restaurant and it was the song.
633
00:38:33.849 --> 00:38:38.559
Um, para paradise was playing. And I was like, Oh,
634
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.119
how perfect.
635
00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:41.920
Like here we are like in a, you know, state
636
00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:43.559
of gratitude and it feels like paradise.
637
00:38:44.500 --> 00:38:47.909
And I love those little synchronicities.
638
00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:51.789
And it certainly does feel like there is a whole
639
00:38:51.929 --> 00:38:55.369
team on the other side, like making sure that that
640
00:38:55.429 --> 00:38:58.250
song is playing at the right moment or that, um,
641
00:38:58.670 --> 00:39:02.389
if you're supposed to meet somebody, then they'll find out
642
00:39:02.429 --> 00:39:05.369
about it through some random means. And it, one thing
643
00:39:05.389 --> 00:39:09.570
that makes me try to say yes to things that
644
00:39:09.610 --> 00:39:13.230
are like, I wouldn't necessarily normally do, because I'm like, okay,
645
00:39:13.250 --> 00:39:14.909
maybe this means that I'm going to meet somebody or
646
00:39:14.949 --> 00:39:17.550
have some, it's setting me up for some experience. So
647
00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:20.639
I'm trying to say yes to more variety of things.
648
00:39:22.460 --> 00:39:23.559
What was the other thing I was going to say?
649
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.000
But it's, yeah, it's like, it's like that confirmation thing.
650
00:39:30.059 --> 00:39:33.019
process of like when you when you pay attention to
651
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.519
the synchronicities but it is so complex to to like
652
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:37.820
oh the other thing i was going to say it
653
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.809
was like sometimes it works um so i was hosting
654
00:39:41.829 --> 00:39:45.510
a retreat in sedona in january and i was expecting
655
00:39:45.849 --> 00:39:48.869
like 10 people and at the last minute the number
656
00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:51.320
of everyone was like a lot of people were like, oops,
657
00:39:51.579 --> 00:39:52.519
I have something come up.
658
00:39:52.579 --> 00:39:53.139
I can't make it.
659
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.679
So our group was more reduced, but the coherence between
660
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:03.119
the people that were attending was so amplified that it
661
00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:07.610
was like, we went way farther than we could have
662
00:40:07.650 --> 00:40:09.989
with a broader group. And I was like, oh my gosh,
663
00:40:10.010 --> 00:40:12.650
like this is, you know, the most powerful retreat that
664
00:40:12.670 --> 00:40:15.030
I've led. And it was because of the, it was
665
00:40:15.090 --> 00:40:18.000
like the right group of people. So it was like, okay, the,
666
00:40:18.099 --> 00:40:20.659
the universe or all of our spirit teams want us
667
00:40:20.699 --> 00:40:21.449
to be doing.
668
00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:24.489
This, this deeper dive.
669
00:40:24.750 --> 00:40:27.550
So they're going to like remove all the other people
670
00:40:27.889 --> 00:40:31.289
from this experience. And so originally that's like, well, that's
671
00:40:31.309 --> 00:40:33.070
kind of a bummer because I was expecting one thing,
672
00:40:33.429 --> 00:40:36.329
but then you, then you realize, oh, actually this is really,
673
00:40:36.789 --> 00:40:41.610
really fantastic. So the expectation around originally it was maybe
674
00:40:41.650 --> 00:40:46.710
disappointing for me, but then it actually worked out really amazing. So,
675
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.059
I'm trying to, like, things that are originally disappointing, I'm like, actually,
676
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.059
this might be great, you know, and just sort of
677
00:40:53.099 --> 00:40:55.400
not judging one thing or another to.
678
00:40:57.139 --> 00:40:57.559
That degree.
679
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:06.590
Yeah, 100%. Like, I had some very difficult experiences around
680
00:41:06.650 -->
00:41:09.489
the end of last year, closer to the end of
681
00:41:09.530 --> 00:41:15.030
last year. And, you know, a month later, I found out, wow,
682
00:41:15.210 --> 00:41:18.420
these provided some of the biggest learnings for me. But
683
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.360
more so is to say, so in my trainings, like
684
00:41:23.309 --> 00:41:27.369
observing the trainings of myself, my own development and the
685
00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:30.650
development of those that I'm working with, it's really come
686
00:41:30.670 --> 00:41:36.559
down to belief. Like if people believe that something is
687
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.059
going to work, it's going to work for them. If
688
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:41.380
they don't, they're going to struggle more with it. And
689
00:41:42.019 --> 00:41:44.440
one of the biggest... I guess, principles that you can
690
00:41:44.579 --> 00:41:47.500
take from this, if you move it out, if you
691
00:41:48.059 --> 00:41:52.539
draw a line to conclude it on a bigger scale,
692
00:41:53.980 --> 00:41:59.800
is that this also is going to be how you
693
00:41:59.860 --> 00:42:05.159
manifest things in life. So if you are of the
694
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.070
belief that something bad happens and it's something bad, then
695
00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:13.570
you're not going to make much out of it. But
696
00:42:13.610 --> 00:42:16.820
if something quote-unquote bad happens or is like, you know,
697
00:42:16.900 --> 00:42:19.639
not preferred rather, that's I think a better word for it.
698
00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:23.780
But then you fully believe that your team or your
699
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:25.719
higher self or whatever it is that you believe in
700
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.159
is actually looking out for you and is doing that
701
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.760
for a good reason, then you will be manifesting a very,
702
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.139
very good reason for that to have happened. And I've
703
00:42:35.260 --> 00:42:37.659
noticed this in my own life, like there's patterns when
704
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.760
previously when I was less, I guess, I was less
705
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.030
in this, I was less in this way of thinking
706
00:42:44.860 --> 00:42:49.920
life could be really really difficult you know and it
707
00:42:49.940 --> 00:42:52.050
would just keep getting it would just keep being difficult
708
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.989
it would be a vicious cycle or a cycle of
709
00:42:55.030 --> 00:43:00.070
difficulty but once I've really bought into this other way
710
00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:05.889
of seeing things of knowing how things can be just
711
00:43:05.929 --> 00:43:08.769
everything that's happening is happening for the greater good and
712
00:43:08.809 --> 00:43:11.869
it's happening for my own benefit and the benefit of
713
00:43:12.170 --> 00:43:15.309
all others and this has been consistent, very, very consistent.
714
00:43:18.610 --> 00:43:22.090
How long have you been doing these trainings?
715
00:43:22.170 --> 00:43:25.329
And is this your, is this your primary focus right now?
716
00:43:25.869 --> 00:43:26.170
Yeah.
717
00:43:26.349 --> 00:43:29.050
So right now this is my primary focus. Um, I
718
00:43:29.070 --> 00:43:30.949
haven't been doing them for very long at all. It's been, uh,
719
00:43:34.809 --> 00:43:38.750
two years, two years at most. Um, my, my background
720
00:43:38.769 --> 00:43:43.159
is in business. I'm a finance guy, uh, statistics, I
721
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:47.280
got my business degree in Toronto, Canada. I went on
722
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.619
to do graduate studies as well later on. I was
723
00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:54.389
in finance and consulting and stuff. So totally, totally different
724
00:43:54.670 --> 00:43:59.949
sort of past. And then I got into hypnosis because
725
00:43:59.969 --> 00:44:02.510
I was really curious about the mind and the power
726
00:44:02.530 --> 00:44:06.489
of the mind. And that brought me into then more
727
00:44:06.510 --> 00:44:08.780
of the psychic powers, which is something that I explored
728
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.360
when I was quite a bit younger. And I'm like, hey,
729
00:44:11.380 --> 00:44:14.000
hold on, let me see. I can do this stuff
730
00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:17.059
with hypnosis where you can stick people, you can get
731
00:44:17.099 --> 00:44:19.860
somebody's hand stuck to their table, you can have somebody
732
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.000
hallucinate something that isn't actually there, a dragon or something.
733
00:44:24.619 --> 00:44:28.969
You can change beliefs completely. You can reorganize their reality
734
00:44:29.010 --> 00:44:33.550
to be better, more constructive, more beneficial. Maybe you can
735
00:44:33.590 --> 00:44:36.610
also help people develop their psychic skills faster because that's
736
00:44:36.630 --> 00:44:38.050
something that I really cared about when I was young.
737
00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:39.360
And I.
738
00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:44.429
Put on a training to see what happened, what happens.
739
00:44:44.539 --> 00:44:49.599
And it works way, way, way, way better than I expected. Um,
740
00:44:53.139 --> 00:44:54.760
and I wasn't planning to do another one that was
741
00:44:54.780 --> 00:44:56.320
just like, kind of like, let me see what happens.
742
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:59.679
Cause I, I had to run trainings. Part of my
743
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:01.219
thing was I wanted to learn how to coach and
744
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.139
develop people and help people grow. And I had to
745
00:45:04.460 --> 00:45:06.280
have a training to have a context in what I
746
00:45:06.300 --> 00:45:08.519
was learning. Cause I was doing a mentorship and apprenticeship in,
747
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.809
in training. But it went too well, so.
748
00:45:14.469 --> 00:45:20.780
Here I am.
749
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.599
I love it. I interviewed Carolyn Corey. She has the
750
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:31.039
superhuman film. There's David Verdesi. He had the Searching for Superhumans,
751
00:45:31.099 --> 00:45:34.739
and he went all over the world finding these amazing practitioners.
752
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.190
And it's like a doorway. It's like you see something,
753
00:45:39.230 --> 00:45:41.940
and it's super cool. Um, I mean, if I could
754
00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:42.599
fly or if.
755
00:45:42.579 --> 00:45:43.719
I could levitate or if I could do any of
756
00:45:43.739 --> 00:45:48.969
these things, it would be really fun, but how practical are,
757
00:45:49.110 --> 00:45:51.969
are they really these skills? What do you, what do
758
00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:56.150
you think is, um, if one of the larger goals
759
00:45:56.269 --> 00:46:00.630
is the expansion of consciousness, um, how, how did these
760
00:46:00.670 --> 00:46:02.110
all fit in with, with that?
761
00:46:03.570 --> 00:46:06.849
Um, two things I'd like to say first, I'd like to, um,
762
00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:12.389
you talked about Caroline Corey and, um, David was his
763
00:46:12.429 --> 00:46:18.250
name for Desi in search of superhumans. Um, yeah, I
764
00:46:18.869 --> 00:46:22.429
think those are great because they make it really interesting and,
765
00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:24.929
you know, it really brings to the world what's possible.
766
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.739
But what it also does is it puts a lot of,
767
00:46:28.739 --> 00:46:33.559
a lot of distance between somebody that's watching this and
768
00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:39.820
the people that are doing these things. There's, there's, um, inherently,
769
00:46:40.619 --> 00:46:47.960
it's creating space or it's creating this inability to reach
770
00:46:48.139 --> 00:46:50.400
that sort of level. That's what's happening. There's a frame
771
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.550
around that. And that frame is not something that is useful,
772
00:46:52.610 --> 00:46:54.289
nor is it something that is true, in my opinion.
773
00:46:55.449 --> 00:46:59.570
Because somebody watching this, they see, okay, somebody to do this, oh,
774
00:46:59.610 --> 00:47:02.630
I need to, like I remember the Balinese one that
775
00:47:02.690 --> 00:47:05.090
was doing electrocuting.
776
00:47:05.409 --> 00:47:07.309
With the lightning through the leaves, yeah.
777
00:47:07.889 --> 00:47:10.599
So, oh, you know, I need to meditate for, I
778
00:47:10.619 --> 00:47:12.159
think it was like three hours a day. I need
779
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:15.099
to fast. I don't know how many days. I need
780
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:18.519
to maybe hold a vegan diet. I need to, you know,
781
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:20.829
be in a temple and be isolated for 10, 20,
782
00:47:20.829 --> 00:47:25.659
30 years. This is not at all what we teach
783
00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:30.719
this in. This is, I'm trying to, I'm moving against that.
784
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.039
I'm moving against that idea that you need to be
785
00:47:35.579 --> 00:47:37.730
part of a
lineage of or you need to be
786
00:47:37.789 --> 00:47:40.210
part of a, you know, studying with an ascendant master
787
00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:42.860
to be able to achieve any of these things. And
788
00:47:43.090 --> 00:47:44.679
I'm actually getting a lot of flack in a lot,
789
00:47:44.739 --> 00:47:48.260
in some circles, especially some of the more Eastern circles where,
790
00:47:48.579 --> 00:47:51.179
you know, having a, you know, a master that has,
791
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:56.139
you know, the 52nd master of, of the seventh temple
792
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.239
that is so on and so forth. And I'm saying, no,
793
00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:02.880
you don't need that. Of course that doesn't, that doesn't, um,
794
00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:08.050
resonate with a lot of people understandably, but, If we
795
00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:12.300
continue thinking that way and we continue expounding these ideas,
796
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.800
then nobody's going to be able to achieve any of
797
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.739
these feats. And why are these feats important? Because that's
798
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.360
a really good question. So it depends what you want
799
00:48:21.380 --> 00:48:24.769
to do with it. But say, for example, you want
800
00:48:24.789 --> 00:48:27.489
to heal yourself or you want to heal your wife
801
00:48:27.710 --> 00:48:33.849
or your child. Well, if you can move matter, you
802
00:48:33.869 --> 00:48:38.750
can see you physically move matter. you move physical matter,
803
00:48:39.730 --> 00:48:45.070
or you teleport an object, or you magnetize metal, how
804
00:48:45.110 --> 00:48:47.159
much less of a stretch in your mind, in your
805
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:49.820
belief system, is it that you can heal at a
806
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:55.260
microscopic level, you can change microscopic cells in your body,
807
00:48:55.579 --> 00:48:59.840
or in your daughter's body, and you can heal them,
808
00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:06.880
completely heal them. Like, how... How invaluable, how priceless is
809
00:49:06.900 --> 00:49:08.610
that ability to be able to heal those that you
810
00:49:08.650 --> 00:49:11.389
love or those that you just meet on the street?
811
00:49:11.849 --> 00:49:14.139
You pass by, you see somebody that's not doing well,
812
00:49:14.579 --> 00:49:17.380
you have the intention, and as you pass by, you
813
00:49:18.699 --> 00:49:24.619
change something. and heal them. How invaluable is that? So
814
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.760
these skills are not... Yes, it's cool. But the difference
815
00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:32.980
is this, that I've done Reiki. I've done Reiki training before.
816
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:38.099
And I've done manifesting before. How do you know when
817
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.780
you're healing somebody... with Reiki or with any sort of
818
00:49:40.820 --> 00:49:43.420
healing modality or when you're manifesting, if you're spending an hour,
819
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.400
how do you know you're actually being effective for a
820
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:48.250
full 60 minutes? Or if you're manifesting, if you're trying
821
00:49:48.269 --> 00:49:51.550
to manifest and you're doing a visualization for 30 minutes,
822
00:49:52.230 --> 00:49:55.559
how do you know you are actually effective for 30,
823
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.829
30 of those 30 minutes? You don't because like it
824
00:49:59.849 --> 00:50:02.409
takes time for the results to come in, right?
825
00:50:02.969 --> 00:50:03.139
Yep.
826
00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:07.769
But if you learn how to move matter, and it's
827
00:50:07.809 --> 00:50:10.269
in front of you, and you get the feedback, the
828
00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:13.409
live feedback, you then start to feel the state that
829
00:50:13.429 --> 00:50:15.150
you need to be in, or you start to feel
830
00:50:15.190 --> 00:50:18.719
what it's like to be doing that. Then all of
831
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:20.739
a sudden you can have full confidence that, hey, when
832
00:50:20.780 --> 00:50:23.960
I spend 30 minutes to heal my pet, my dog,
833
00:50:25.460 --> 00:50:28.500
then I know that I'm having an effect. I have
834
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.510
full effect. And then that belief actually reinforces and amplifies
835
00:50:32.550 --> 00:50:35.360
the effect itself. So you being able to do some
836
00:50:35.380 --> 00:50:39.090
incredible feats helps you be able to do this kind
837
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:47.070
of work. And that's with healing, that's with manifesting, that's
838
00:50:47.110 --> 00:50:51.889
with also, for example, the other aspect of intuition, receiving
839
00:50:51.909 --> 00:50:57.139
information from outside. That's no different from being able to,
840
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.139
when you need to make a decision, do I take
841
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.719
this job or do I take that job? Should I
842
00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:04.360
buy this car from this seller? Should I put an
843
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:09.519
offer on this house, should I meet this person, go
844
00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:13.480
on a second date with this person? Normally, we only
845
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.380
use data and information that we have through our five senses.
846
00:51:17.380 --> 00:51:21.929
But imagine being able to then access information from the universe,
847
00:51:21.969 --> 00:51:24.889
from whatever you believe in Akashic Records, whatever it is,
848
00:51:24.909 --> 00:51:27.250
the matrix, the field, and then you can use that
849
00:51:27.269 --> 00:51:28.550
information to help you make a decision.
850
00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:38.539
Yeah, when I talk about remote viewing, often I like
851
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:43.059
remote viewing because you can train a confidence in your
852
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.559
accuracy with known.
853
00:51:47.429 --> 00:51:48.280
Targets, right?
854
00:51:48.610 --> 00:51:51.130
And then you can say, okay, wow, like most of
855
00:51:51.150 -->
00:51:54.909
the time I'm getting 80%.
856
00:51:53.449 --> 00:51:54.369
Of the data or whatever.
857
00:51:54.710 --> 00:51:57.550
Then you can move on to targets that you can't verify,
858
00:51:57.590 --> 00:52:01.369
like outer space or subatomic or ancient past or any
859
00:52:01.389 --> 00:52:06.809
of these things. because otherwise you might yeah just write
860
00:52:06.849 --> 00:52:09.030
it off but if you have like proved to yourself
861
00:52:09.110 --> 00:52:14.010
slowly that or quickly that yeah oh my gosh I
862
00:52:14.050 --> 00:52:18.010
am getting good data here then you can sort of
863
00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:23.369
trust your your more stretch type of perceptions.
864
00:52:23.469 --> 00:52:29.929
Yeah yeah exactly it's these these abilities start to lead
865
00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:34.860
to like just the world becomes all accessible and it
866
00:52:35.260 --> 00:52:37.679
starts to become a joy and it starts to become
867
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.909
fun and you can live with excitement and love and
868
00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:44.750
care for everyone else. How amazing is that? That is.
869
00:52:46.309 --> 00:52:46.869
That's incredible.
870
00:52:49.389 --> 00:52:49.670
Yeah.
871
00:52:50.449 --> 00:52:53.010
I want to ask you, speaking of remote viewing, because
872
00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:54.599
I heard that was one of the things you were
873
00:52:54.619 --> 00:52:55.659
doing when you were a kid.
874
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.480
I was....
875
00:53:00.340 --> 00:53:00.840
I live in St.
876
00:53:00.860 --> 00:53:05.760
Louis, Missouri, and we have these giant earthen mounds. There's
877
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:08.929
a few left. It's like a pyramid, but it's made
878
00:53:08.969 --> 00:53:12.510
of dirt, of earth. But there, at one point, used
879
00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:17.050
to be hundreds of these mounds in the city, and
880
00:53:17.070 --> 00:53:19.969
they kind of leveled them to build the modern city
881
00:53:20.090 --> 00:53:24.760
as it stands. But they were finding Egyptian artifacts. They
882
00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:29.760
were finding giant skeletons, like 18-foot-tall humans, in these mounds
883
00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:33.400
and those are kind of scrubbed from the record, right?
884
00:53:33.420 --> 00:53:36.500
Cause they don't really conform with the, okay, there were
885
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.780
some Indians here at one point. So, um, I was like, well,
886
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:42.500
what if we got a team of remote viewers and
887
00:53:42.539 --> 00:53:47.219
just sort of got some insight into where these mounds
888
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.929
came from, but particularly giving us some experiments where we
889
00:53:51.949 --> 00:53:54.829
could go do a dig and validate something. Cause it's
890
00:53:54.849 --> 00:53:57.130
always nice to like, okay, but what's the, we can like,
891
00:53:57.760 --> 00:53:59.949
see what we think it might be, but if we
892
00:53:59.969 --> 00:54:03.190
could get some archeological dig sites where and how deep
893
00:54:03.230 --> 00:54:05.750
to dig where we'd find some corroborating evidence, then it
894
00:54:05.789 --> 00:54:07.590
could be real and we could like publish a paper
895
00:54:07.630 --> 00:54:13.929
about it. That's just one application of remote viewing that
896
00:54:13.949 --> 00:54:15.530
would be kind of fun probably.
897
00:54:15.269 --> 00:54:16.469
For our local area.
898
00:54:17.170 --> 00:54:22.079
But what, yeah, what are your thoughts about what would
899
00:54:22.099 --> 00:54:26.550
you use remote viewing to try to look into or
900
00:54:26.590 --> 00:54:38.090
what would be exciting for you to investigate more it's.
901
00:54:33.739 --> 00:54:39.360
A good question you know remote viewing can also be
902
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:45.639
used for concepts and ideas and um um because really
903
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.639
what it is it's you're you're just accessing information that
904
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:51.860
exists out there so it doesn't have to be necessarily
905
00:54:51.900 --> 00:54:55.909
like a place or something um The thing that I
906
00:54:55.949 --> 00:54:59.340
would use removing for is I like to learn to
907
00:54:59.389 --> 00:55:03.320
find out how I can train people faster and better
908
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.440
because that's what I care about. I, I believe these,
909
00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:10.000
these skills, like they open up and Lidu said this,
910
00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.690
like they open up energetic channels for people and it
911
00:55:12.730 --> 00:55:17.090
helps people, um, ascend their consciousness by, by doing these things.
912
00:55:17.849 --> 00:55:22.230
So for me, my, my, my, I'm hyper curious about
913
00:55:22.929 --> 00:55:25.869
What are the hacks that I can use for people
914
00:55:25.909 --> 00:55:30.170
to help them pick this stuff up faster? This is
915
00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:35.590
what I'm about. And the overarching mission of telepathy as well,
916
00:55:35.849 --> 00:55:39.610
which is huge and massively important in my mind. So, like,
917
00:55:39.670 --> 00:55:42.230
how can we do this? And technology. Can we remove
918
00:55:42.269 --> 00:55:47.320
view technology from, I don't know, ETs or other dimensional
919
00:55:47.489 --> 00:55:54.969
beings to help us with this? Um, cause I think
920
00:55:55.409 --> 00:55:58.389
that that's an important piece. Like what are, what are
921
00:55:58.429 --> 00:56:02.610
we not doing that we could be doing to, um,
922
00:56:03.530 --> 00:56:06.489
to bring us closer to a state of, of love
923
00:56:06.510 --> 00:56:06.949
with each other?
924
00:56:10.349 --> 00:56:10.610
Yeah.
925
00:56:10.949 --> 00:56:11.070
Yeah.
926
00:56:11.110 --> 00:56:11.849
I feel for sure.
927
00:56:11.909 --> 00:56:16.170
Some of my friends who have built like, uh, free
928
00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:18.840
energy devices in their garage, you know, they're just like
929
00:56:19.320 -->
00:56:23.289
tapping in, getting that from, some somewhere their higher self
930
00:56:23.349 --> 00:56:25.969
or their, you know, some starship somewhere.
931
00:56:26.750 --> 00:56:31.150
Um, yeah. Uh, so yeah.
932
00:56:31.250 --> 00:56:34.869
Accelerating the process. Have you experimented with technology like, um,
933
00:56:35.090 --> 00:56:39.449
brain wave audios or I'm thinking of the Monroe Institute
934
00:56:39.489 --> 00:56:40.130
and things like that.
935
00:56:40.469 --> 00:56:44.090
Plenty. We've experimented. I've experimented plenty. Um, we have a
936
00:56:44.090 --> 00:56:47.289
training actually coming up in Australia in June. I think
937
00:56:47.429 --> 00:56:51.219
it is, uh, And, um, we've got the first three days,
938
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.699
the Monroe Institute, um, got an instructor doing three days
939
00:56:54.739 --> 00:57:00.000
of like, um, of stuff to kind of prep before
940
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.719
the training. So I'm curious how that's going to turn
941
00:57:02.780 --> 00:57:04.489
out and if how that, what kind of an effect
942
00:57:04.530 --> 00:57:08.750
that's going to have. Um, but prior to that, I
943
00:57:08.849 --> 00:57:13.179
did do a lot of experimenting with different brain waves. Uh,
944
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:17.460
I used Things like Muse, I used different binaural beats
945
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:24.780
stuff to see what would happen. And I didn't really
946
00:57:24.820 --> 00:57:28.309
get any sort of conclusive, like, okay, this is definitely
947
00:57:28.869 --> 00:57:31.250
making it easier or better to pick this stuff up.
948
00:57:33.650 --> 00:57:37.449
I think brainwave changes are actually more of like, I mean,
949
00:57:37.659 --> 00:57:39.960
there are, it's more of like that happens because of
950
00:57:40.019 --> 00:57:45.519
you doing something else. And, um, what seems to happen
951
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:50.179
is people with these, like doing these abilities, you can
952
00:57:50.219 --> 00:57:52.340
kind of start doing them in any sort of state.
953
00:57:52.739 --> 00:57:55.099
So I've tried all sorts of states. I've tried like
954
00:57:55.139 --> 00:57:59.400
different kinds of emotions as well. Different kinds of, yeah. Um,
955
00:57:59.900 --> 00:58:03.760
states of mind as well, different kinds, and you can
956
00:58:03.780 --> 00:58:05.929
do it pretty much in all of them. The one
957
00:58:05.949 --> 00:58:10.150
that really doesn't help is if you're critiquing or there's
958
00:58:10.170 --> 00:58:13.869
inner dialogue or there's stuff happening. It doesn't really work
959
00:58:13.889 --> 00:58:14.170
so well.
960
00:58:16.389 --> 00:58:16.610
Sure.
961
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.000
I think I was telling you about the... I had
962
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:28.960
just learned about this study because I'm reading Dean Radin's
963
00:58:29.019 --> 00:58:31.719
latest book, The Science of Magic, and he does a
964
00:58:31.739 --> 00:58:36.489
lot of the literature review. There's a placebo effect for
965
00:58:36.570 --> 00:58:38.909
psychic skills that they were testing. It was basically where
966
00:58:38.929 --> 00:58:43.280
they played classical music And they said, this is engineered
967
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.940
to make you better at psychic skills for 15 minutes.
968
00:58:46.500 --> 00:58:48.619
But it was just a normal piece of music. And
969
00:58:48.699 --> 00:58:49.340
so the.
970
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:53.070
People performed better on psychic skills after just listening to
971
00:58:53.110 --> 00:58:56.469
this placebo music. And I was like, oh, that's really
972
00:58:56.590 --> 00:58:59.670
showing that the right to belief is beneficial.
973
00:59:01.670 --> 00:59:04.090
So then we're all the way back to where we started.
974
00:59:04.250 --> 00:59:06.409
If I see you stick the card to the wall,
975
00:59:06.989 --> 00:59:09.570
now I believe that it's possible and it's going to
976
00:59:09.610 --> 00:59:09.949
make you better.
977
00:59:10.219 --> 00:59:13.599
Yeah, this is, this is exactly it. So on the
978
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:16.960
seven day training, this is every, every day. This is
979
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:19.679
what I'm badgering people about guys. It's your belief. It's
980
00:59:19.699 --> 00:59:21.960
about your belief. It's like, what frame are you using?
981
00:59:22.099 --> 00:59:24.460
What are you doing? I'll have, I've had people ask
982
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.519
me like on the fifth or sixth day, like Alex,
983
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.510
how should I be doing this? Should I, Like, does
984
00:59:30.550 --> 00:59:34.969
this work like this? And I'm like, guys, is it
985
00:59:34.989 --> 00:59:36.860
a useful frame for you or not? Like, is this
986
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.800
something that you want to use? Like, do you want
987
00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:40.539
to do it that way?
988
00:59:40.579 --> 00:59:42.059
Because that could be really useful.
989
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.159
And, like, if you feel it resonates with you, then
990
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:48.440
that means it's more aligned with you, right? So if
991
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:51.360
you resonate with something, then, yeah, it'll work for you.
992
00:59:51.380 --> 00:59:54.280
It'll work better for you. Great. Use it. Use it
993
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:58.110
if it helps you do the thing. But always remember...
994
00:59:59.369 --> 01:00:02.610
these are all constructs in our mind. You know, we're
995
01:00:02.650 --> 01:00:05.590
making these things up. These, there doesn't seem to be
996
01:00:05.739 --> 01:00:10.880
actually a correlation between what works and what doesn't work. Unless,
997
01:00:11.139 --> 01:00:14.719
except for if you think it works, then it'll work. So,
998
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.070
you know, if you, if I tell you, hey, and
999
01:00:18.389 --> 01:00:20.570
oftentimes I'll do this and I'm ruining the secret here,
1000
01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:22.289
but
when I'm introducing like a new thing that I
1001
01:00:22.309 --> 01:00:23.630
have no idea if it works, I'm just going to
1002
01:00:23.650 --> 01:00:27.489
be like, yeah, yeah. So, like straight, straight face. Yeah,
1003
01:00:27.510 --> 01:00:29.659
so we're going to do this now and It's going
1004
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.300
to happen like this. And then we'll move on to
1005
01:00:31.340 --> 01:00:33.699
something else. And that other else is going to be
1006
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:36.469
a much bigger deal. And I purposely create a big
1007
01:00:36.510 --> 01:00:38.210
distance so that the first one that people are going
1008
01:00:38.230 --> 01:00:40.170
to do is going to seem like really easy to do.
1009
01:00:41.170 --> 01:00:46.989
You know? Even though I have no idea if it works. Like,
1010
01:00:47.489 --> 01:00:51.670
I remember on the first telekinesis training, this was a
1011
01:00:51.710 --> 01:00:54.949
five-day training. And we only had like six or seven people.
1012
01:00:54.989 --> 01:00:56.570
It was a small one. It was the first one
1013
01:00:56.590 --> 01:00:59.659
I ran. And I think it was the fourth day.
1014
01:01:01.380 --> 01:01:03.780
Like people were already moving things under glass on the
1015
01:01:03.820 --> 01:01:07.110
second or third day. Like they were like progressing so fast.
1016
01:01:07.550 --> 01:01:09.050
I was running out of ideas of what to do
1017
01:01:09.090 --> 01:01:11.690
because they were already doing such things that were so
1018
01:01:11.730 --> 01:01:15.219
far ahead. Yes. And I was like, you know, I
1019
01:01:15.219 --> 01:01:17.400
was acting out very good guys, good stuff. And like,
1020
01:01:17.420 --> 01:01:23.340
you know, behind me, I was like, all right, because
1021
01:01:23.380 --> 01:01:27.840
they were surpassing me by so much I wasn't able
1022
01:01:27.860 --> 01:01:28.960
to do any of the stuff that they were doing
1023
01:01:29.179 --> 01:01:31.980
I had spent two months ahead of time training two
1024
01:01:32.139 --> 01:01:36.280
or three hours a day and on the fourth day
1025
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:40.239
I brought some cans of Sprite I had to drink
1026
01:01:40.260 --> 01:01:42.599
a bunch of Sprite beforehand to get these cans empty
1027
01:01:44.340 --> 01:01:47.179
and I'm like alright we're going to roll these cans
1028
01:01:47.889 --> 01:01:50.590
now and a few people were like you know, they're
1029
01:01:50.610 --> 01:01:53.090
looking at me and I could tell because this was
1030
01:01:53.389 --> 01:01:57.070
in my circle of NELPers, of people that do NLP and,
1031
01:01:57.110 --> 01:02:00.139
you know, they have very good sensory acuity. So, you
1032
01:02:00.179 --> 01:02:02.800
can pick up on the smallest little, you know, facial
1033
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.260
expressions or movements or any sort of incongruence in your body. So,
1034
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.340
I had to like, you know, really like, yeah, so
1035
01:02:09.380 --> 01:02:15.530
now we're going to move cans. And it passes, like
1036
01:02:15.590 --> 01:02:18.929
nobody picks up on this is not supposed to actually happen. And,
1037
01:02:19.469 --> 01:02:21.969
I've only seen a few people do this and it's
1038
01:02:22.050 --> 01:02:25.190
been after years of training. And I'm like, let's see
1039
01:02:25.210 --> 01:02:27.860
what happens. And I give everybody the cans and I
1040
01:02:27.900 --> 01:02:30.420
put some music on and within like, I don't know,
1041
01:02:30.500 --> 01:02:33.920
five minutes, somebody's like managing to roll it. And I'm like,
1042
01:02:34.099 --> 01:02:36.199
Oh my God, you're rolling it. And he's like, yeah.
1043
01:02:36.820 --> 01:02:40.849
And I'm like, I'm like, I was trying to hold back,
1044
01:02:40.909 --> 01:02:44.809
like freaking out in my enthusiasm about this. I'm like,
1045
01:02:44.909 --> 01:02:48.030
very good guys. So, you know, he, he, he, he's
1046
01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:50.199
the first one that rolled a can. Very good. Keep
1047
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:56.539
it up guys. It was an experience.
1048
01:02:58.480 --> 01:02:59.980
I love it. Yeah.
1049
01:03:00.590 --> 01:03:05.530
Gosh, we, it's so funny because we, I don't know
1050
01:03:05.550 --> 01:03:07.150
if I told you, but we have a, we have.
1051
01:03:07.090 --> 01:03:12.150
A kids school where we're exploring a lot of this stuff.
1052
01:03:12.250 --> 01:03:16.719
Plus, um, you know, learning the body's energy systems and,
1053
01:03:17.389 --> 01:03:20.619
you know, just various different, this is like a mystery
1054
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:21.579
school for kids basically.
1055
01:03:22.059 --> 01:03:25.980
But we did spoon bending for our open house when
1056
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.559
we were launching. And this is just like a month ago.
1057
01:03:28.099 --> 01:03:30.949
And then one of the parents sent me the video.
1058
01:03:31.030 --> 01:03:34.469
It was like right after the call, my son got
1059
01:03:34.489 --> 01:03:36.230
the idea to stick things to the wall. And so
1060
01:03:36.269 --> 01:03:38.070
he was sticking, like the first thing he tried was
1061
01:03:38.110 --> 01:03:40.280
pencils and he's sticking pencils to the wall. And it's like,
1062
01:03:40.300 --> 01:03:43.659
that's amazing. And then I see your video sticking, maybe
1063
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.420
he saw it too. Maybe that's where he got the idea.
1064
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:48.239
But it's like the leap from where we were to
1065
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:49.019
where you can go.
1066
01:03:49.340 --> 01:03:52.960
Like I wasn't expecting that, but it was like great
1067
01:03:52.980 --> 01:03:53.239
for you.
1068
01:03:53.300 --> 01:03:53.960
I mean, look at that.
1069
01:03:54.500 --> 01:03:58.489
Uh, so, and I guess maybe they're not leaps, but
1070
01:03:58.530 --> 01:04:00.530
it's just like something that we hadn't thought of or
1071
01:04:00.769 --> 01:04:06.329
unexpected speed for, for them to acquire that skill. Um,
1072
01:04:07.489 --> 01:04:12.289
by the way, uh, do you have any, um, like
1073
01:04:12.309 --> 01:04:14.590
because we have this school for kids, do you have any,
1074
01:04:16.219 --> 01:04:22.300
thoughts about what might be really useful to teach kids?
1075
01:04:26.010 --> 01:04:27.369
Or how you might approach that?
1076
01:04:30.670 --> 01:04:41.380
Yeah, give me a moment here. What's really important, I think,
1077
01:04:41.659 --> 01:04:47.150
is to keep things fun and interesting. and to keep
1078
01:04:47.570 --> 01:04:54.690
play and experimentation involved and not have, not have things
1079
01:04:54.769 --> 01:04:58.150
designed like a curriculum necessarily where there's like, like the
1080
01:04:58.170 --> 01:05:00.860
whole purpose of this is to be, you know, expand,
1081
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.219
you know, minds and expand our mind and their mind and,
1082
01:05:04.780 --> 01:05:10.000
and just explore and then do extraordinary things. And when
1083
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.159
we box things in or we create constraints or do
1084
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.650
how things should be, that really, it really limits, it
1085
01:05:18.690 --> 01:05:24.570
really stifles that feeling, that emotion, that child-likeness that they have,
1086
01:05:25.050 --> 01:05:28.679
and of course, you know, in our trainings, we obviously
1087
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.099
have much more of a process that's happening, but that's
1088
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:35.039
also because there's decades of conditioning that, deconditioning that we
1089
01:05:35.059 --> 01:05:37.519
need to do, but with kids, it's like, it's all
1090
01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:40.219
there already, so it's, I think taking more of an
1091
01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:44.119
approach of, like, imagine you're working with geniuses, you have
1092
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:49.130
20 geniuses, like the best in their field. And you
1093
01:05:49.170 --> 01:05:52.090
want to, I don't know, let's say make, make money. Like,
1094
01:05:52.730 --> 01:05:54.050
so how do you, what's the best way to do that?
1095
01:05:54.110 --> 01:05:55.869
It's not, it's not by you telling them what to do.
1096
01:05:55.889 --> 01:05:58.329
It's just by giving them all the resources they could
1097
01:05:58.389 --> 01:06:00.929
ever imagine or need and seeing what they come up
1098
01:06:00.969 --> 01:06:03.969
with it and just allowing the container to self organize,
1099
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:04.610
you know? Yeah.
1100
01:06:09.980 --> 01:06:10.860
Yeah.
1101
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:15.090
We, uh, maybe fortuitously we called it, it's called a
1102
01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:22.710
quantum kids laboratory and keeping that sort of experimental adventurous frame. Um,
1103
01:06:23.489 --> 01:06:26.210
and one thing that I've noticed is like the bare
1104
01:06:26.250 --> 01:06:30.550
minimum of instruction. Like here's, here's what we're going to try.
1105
01:06:30.969 --> 01:06:33.150
Like just so you know
enough to get started, you know,
1106
01:06:33.349 --> 01:06:35.190
and then, and then let them take off.
1107
01:06:35.230 --> 01:06:35.530
Nice.
1108
01:06:35.730 --> 01:06:35.989
Yeah.
1109
01:06:36.230 --> 01:06:36.369
Yeah.
1110
01:06:36.389 --> 01:06:37.969
That's exactly it. Yeah.
1111
01:06:38.010 --> 01:06:41.889
And then they're reporting back like, Oh, uh, like say
1112
01:06:41.989 --> 01:06:44.219
one of the things was like when you're doing different,
1113
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:49.280
hand mudras like what is your experience of this mudra
1114
01:06:49.340 --> 01:06:52.239
and how might you use it you know rather than
1115
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:56.090
saying like this is traditionally what this mudra is for
1116
01:06:56.750 --> 01:06:59.309
it's like can you can you tune into like the
1117
01:06:59.789 --> 01:07:02.849
channel that's opening when you do that and what might
1118
01:07:02.869 --> 01:07:05.510
you use it for and then say okay yep that's
1119
01:07:05.670 --> 01:07:09.159
actually you you got what historically it has been used
1120
01:07:09.179 --> 01:07:10.480
for amazing.
1121
01:07:09.929 --> 01:07:14.059
Yeah and even like that's a good example of something
1122
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.780
that I think is like, it only works because we
1123
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:22.139
believe it works. And because we've agreed collectively that something
1124
01:07:22.179 --> 01:07:24.739
is used for, for something like that, that mudra. Okay.
1125
01:07:24.780 --> 01:07:27.960
This will, this will help you with, let's just say
1126
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:32.119
sticking things to walls, you know, but that's just because
1127
01:07:32.139 --> 01:07:35.039
it's a collective agreement. You know, we've, we've, we've all
1128
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.539
collectively decided to be delusional and say, this is what
1129
01:07:37.579 --> 01:07:39.460
this is used for. And then the more energy and
1130
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.360
more attention and awareness that is put on, Hey, this
1131
01:07:41.429 --> 01:07:44.349
works for that. the more it goes into that collective
1132
01:07:44.389 --> 01:07:52.469
unconscious and it becomes a thing. And I reckon most people,
1133
01:07:52.570 --> 01:07:55.090
if they notice something, I reckon it's because they're picking
1134
01:07:55.150 --> 01:07:59.809
up on that collective, on that unconscious existence that that's
1135
01:07:59.869 --> 01:08:03.059
a thing rather than that, hey, this actually does something
1136
01:08:03.099 --> 01:08:06.599
like this because it actually does that. I personally don't
1137
01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:15.489
believe that there's anything that does anything inherently wrong. Okay.
1138
01:08:16.890 --> 01:08:17.109
Yeah.
1139
01:08:17.789 --> 01:08:19.649
I might push back on that because I would say
1140
01:08:19.770 --> 01:08:23.409
that the body has like a very specific design and
1141
01:08:24.550 --> 01:08:28.670
is built in with certain switches and triggers and systems.
1142
01:08:28.750 --> 01:08:33.739
But yeah, I would for sure believe that someone could
1143
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:37.119
tap into the, I don't know if the egregore is
1144
01:08:37.140 --> 01:08:39.199
the proper term, but the, yeah, the collective.
1145
01:08:39.659 --> 01:08:43.619
I think egregore is a good one. And And I agree.
1146
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.529
I think the body is designed to do certain things. However,
1147
01:08:47.689 --> 01:08:57.260
I think we've almost created certain abilities or affinities within
1148
01:08:57.270 --> 01:09:00.699
the body because we've been more and more... putting our
1149
01:09:00.739 --> 01:09:08.250
attention in a certain direction on something. So, um, I
1150
01:09:08.270 --> 01:09:10.770
think the more physical the thing is, the more it
1151
01:09:10.810 --> 01:09:14.869
can have like an actual, uh, cause and effect sort of, uh,
1152
01:09:14.909 --> 01:09:18.319
relationship with other things like, uh, like a cup is
1153
01:09:18.699 --> 01:09:22.239
inherently very good at holding, water so yes definitely what
1154
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:25.140
I said does not hold up with like something like
1155
01:09:25.180 --> 01:09:27.380
a cup or if you get a knife a knife
1156
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.100
is going to be inherently good at cutting away separating
1157
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.380
but I think that's about because they're on a very
1158
01:09:35.420 --> 01:09:40.319
close to matter matter being something that is whatever low
1159
01:09:40.340 --> 01:09:43.270
vibration something that is in existence that has been brought
1160
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.649
into reality to have a cause and effect sort of
1161
01:09:47.390 --> 01:09:50.630
capacity I think things that are higher and higher up
1162
01:09:50.909 --> 01:09:56.060
on the level of abstraction in terms of whatever it is, energy,
1163
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:01.739
whatever that might be, those are ever more flexible and
1164
01:10:01.819 --> 01:10:06.859
less attached with a certain characteristic or function. And I
1165
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:11.479
think those ones are very, very movable. And I think
1166
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:17.630
things in between, like energetic bodies or... when you're working,
1167
01:10:17.670 --> 01:10:21.149
cause I've, I've worked within, you know, different esoteric with
1168
01:10:21.170 --> 01:10:27.090
different esoteric practices. It seems like, it seems like you
1169
01:10:27.130 --> 01:10:30.819
can have the same sort of effect doing something your
1170
01:10:30.859 --> 01:10:34.560
own way. If you've put enough effort or attention or awareness,
1171
01:10:34.579 --> 01:10:36.640
so we have a few people that have kind of agreed, okay,
1172
01:10:36.659 --> 01:10:38.500
let's do it like this. And then you can create
1173
01:10:38.579 --> 01:10:40.720
something that has just as strong of an effect like
1174
01:10:40.739 --> 01:10:43.479
an egregore. And it's more new
than, you know, an
1175
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.180
old egregore. Hmm.
1176
01:10:47.590 --> 01:10:47.810
Yeah.
1177
01:10:49.670 --> 01:10:49.750
Yeah.
1178
01:10:49.810 --> 01:10:50.329
That makes sense.
1179
01:10:51.029 --> 01:10:56.350
Um, the, the variability of like how, how solid or
1180
01:10:56.390 --> 01:11:00.789
how energetic something is. Um, I was, uh, the other day,
1181
01:11:00.890 --> 01:11:04.449
so one was, uh, they were saying that the middle
1182
01:11:04.489 --> 01:11:07.930
finger is actually a really great mudra. By the way,
1183
01:11:07.970 --> 01:11:10.020
you can use it as like an antenna to enhance
1184
01:11:10.029 --> 01:11:14.960
your doubt. They were just sitting there meditating like with
1185
01:11:14.979 --> 01:11:16.140
the middle fingers.
1186
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:19.390
Uh, maybe you know maybe it isn't it's like like
1187
01:11:19.409 --> 01:11:21.149
you know people that give the middle finger needs that
1188
01:11:21.630 --> 01:11:23.090
more downloads for themselves so it's.
1189
01:11:23.029 --> 01:11:32.170
Like one thing i want to just circle back to
1190
01:11:32.189 --> 01:11:35.310
because i think you may have a little bit more
1191
01:11:35.329 --> 01:11:36.750
to say but you were you were just talking about
1192
01:11:36.789 --> 01:11:41.829
the importance of like telepathy um and and lidu saying
1193
01:11:41.850 --> 01:11:43.899
like this is actually some something that's going to be
1194
01:11:43.909 --> 01:11:48.500
really beneficial the more people that can start working on
1195
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:52.000
accessing telepathic information. Um, was there anything else you wanted
1196
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:54.060
to say about, about that?
1197
01:11:54.949 --> 01:11:59.310
Yeah. So the way it kind of started was, so
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01:11:59.350 --> 01:12:04.329
initially Dolly and I were going to do a training, um, uh,
1199
01:12:04.390 --> 01:12:07.050
together where I would, I would do the hypnosis stuff
1200
01:12:07.130 --> 01:12:10.810
and the telekinesis, the psychokinesis stuff. And, um, she would
1201
01:12:10.850 --> 01:12:13.220
do the, uh, the blindfold vision stuff and, you know,
1202
01:12:13.340 --> 01:12:18.000
extrasensory perception. We would, um, work together because these things
1203
01:12:18.039 --> 01:12:21.380
are very the frames that you have the frames that
1204
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.319
i'm introducing for telekinesis are perfect for what she does
1205
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.560
with blindfold vision um and when you develop one it
1206
01:12:28.619 --> 01:12:30.600
kind of helps to develop the other one especially with
1207
01:12:30.619 --> 01:12:33.170
telekinesis because telekinesis is something that you see like immediately
1208
01:12:33.210 --> 01:12:35.729
so you get very quick proof that okay you know
1209
01:12:35.770 --> 01:12:39.189
what reality immediately you start to have doubts about all
1210
01:12:39.210 --> 01:12:43.640
of your other beliefs about
reality so then things like
1211
01:12:43.699 --> 01:12:46.739
blindfold vision and extrasensory perception, which might be a little bit,
1212
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:49.460
there could be a bit more of a probability to it.
1213
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:51.720
People might be denying it a bit more because like, well,
1214
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:53.520
you know, maybe I'm just kind of making it up.
1215
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:55.899
Maybe it's my imagination. I mean, yes, it is your imagination.
1216
01:12:56.319 --> 01:12:59.350
That's what you're trying to use. But when, you know,
1217
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:03.170
you've already proven like, hey, I can bend reality, that
1218
01:13:03.210 --> 01:13:05.409
kind of, you kind of fall into that reality more easily.
1219
01:13:06.630 --> 01:13:10.010
So initially, the plan was to just do a training
1220
01:13:10.050 --> 01:13:13.789
her and I with these two, And it was Lidu
1221
01:13:14.029 --> 01:13:17.949
that actually told her that the teachers are asking us
1222
01:13:17.989 --> 01:13:20.899
to include telepathy in our trainings and to include some
1223
01:13:20.939 --> 01:13:22.100
telepathic exercises.
1224
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.560
So her teachers.
1225
01:13:25.619 --> 01:13:32.520
Yes. Her teachers that she's working with or the angels
1226
01:13:32.590 --> 01:13:34.970
or whatever you want to call them, the different entities
1227
01:13:35.010 --> 01:13:40.899
that are helping us with stuff. Yep. And... That's become
1228
01:13:41.060 --> 01:13:45.020
a really, really big mission because she's confirmed that when
1229
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.670
you open, when you telekinesis or blindfold vision, you're opening
1230
01:13:47.750 --> 01:13:50.550
up energetic channels and they also help for telepathy as well.
1231
01:13:51.930 --> 01:13:55.909
And to me, from a very, very young age, because
1232
01:13:55.930 --> 01:13:58.810
I was lucky enough that my parents bought me all
1233
01:13:58.829 --> 01:14:01.880
sorts of, you know, they bought books from garage sales
1234
01:14:01.909 --> 01:14:05.720
that were like on extrasensory perception, on remote viewing, on Reiki,
1235
01:14:05.939 --> 01:14:10.430
on all of these, you know, weird and wonderful things. And, um,
1236
01:14:11.170 --> 01:14:13.210
by your request, they were just picking that stuff up.
1237
01:14:13.250 --> 01:14:16.930
They're buying like lots of books at the garage sale. Um,
1238
01:14:17.130 --> 01:14:18.810
and I was curious about that stuff. So I would
1239
01:14:19.550 --> 01:14:24.229
read like at six, seven, eight years old, you know? Um, nice.
1240
01:14:24.390 --> 01:14:26.729
And I remember since then I had this idea and
1241
01:14:26.810 --> 01:14:30.409
I even told him that like telepathy would change the world. Telepathy,
1242
01:14:30.449 --> 01:14:33.520
if telepathy was real, I mean, if people were telepathic,
1243
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:37.720
the world would be different. Human society would be completely different.
1244
01:14:37.739 --> 01:14:40.779
It would be good telepathically. and loving and kind like
1245
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:44.300
you wouldn't be able to you would not be able
1246
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:49.229
to stand in front of people in a stadium and
1247
01:14:49.289 --> 01:14:52.430
lie to them about what your political motivations are or
1248
01:14:52.449 --> 01:14:55.890
your motivations for the country are you would not be
1249
01:14:55.930 --> 01:14:59.670
able to go on a conference call in front of
1250
01:14:59.710 --> 01:15:03.649
your executives and lie about your motivations or that you
1251
01:15:03.689 --> 01:15:08.029
have maybe been embezzling money or committing any sort of
1252
01:15:08.060 --> 01:15:15.750
fraud So that takes care of situations like that. But
1253
01:15:17.909 --> 01:15:24.399
there's a deeper level, even more important level of closeness,
1254
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:29.420
connection that telepathy brings. So, for example, Derek, you and
1255
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:31.140
I have been talking for about an hour and a
1256
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:37.789
half or so. I don't wish you any ill will.
1257
01:15:38.489 --> 01:15:40.569
I assume you don't wish me any ill will, right?
1258
01:15:42.949 --> 01:15:46.710
In fact, I truly, I truly wish you the best.
1259
01:15:47.109 --> 01:15:51.899
I truly wish you that you will have a very,
1260
01:15:52.060 --> 01:15:56.840
very good, fulfilling, happy life, that you will find what
1261
01:15:56.859 --> 01:15:58.539
you want to be doing, that you will be successful
1262
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.880
in those things, that your wife and daughter prosper, that
1263
01:16:01.899 --> 01:16:05.380
you prosper, that you have just the most amazing, incredible life.
1264
01:16:05.619 --> 01:16:07.520
I truly wish that from the bottom of my heart.
1265
01:16:10.170 --> 01:16:13.430
thank you absolutely and thank you for receiving that actually
1266
01:16:14.750 --> 01:16:19.289
and I assume you probably have some level of that
1267
01:16:19.350 --> 01:16:22.310
as well between you know at least neutrality to what
1268
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.300
I said you're going to fall somewhere on that as
1269
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:29.079
well we have not expressed that to each other I
1270
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.500
mean I've just kind of expressed that but because of
1271
01:16:32.539 --> 01:16:36.920
the context I'm saying that but this conversation could end
1272
01:16:37.020 --> 01:16:40.829
without me expressing that It could end without you expressing that.
1273
01:16:42.569 --> 01:16:49.569
And that would be unfortunate. Because we have a lot
1274
01:16:49.609 --> 01:16:54.189
of love for those people around us that we meet.
1275
01:16:54.689 --> 01:16:57.760
And we have a lot of care. And we want
1276
01:16:57.770 --> 01:17:01.500
the best for people. And imagine that instead of it
1277
01:17:02.020 --> 01:17:04.800
not being expressed, like it has to be
expressed verbally now,
1278
01:17:06.029 --> 01:17:09.760
Or maybe I might be exuding some love towards you
1279
01:17:09.939 --> 01:17:12.760
and you are exuding some love towards me. But it's
1280
01:17:13.619 --> 01:17:15.819
not super strong because we're not really attuned to that.
1281
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:25.000
Imagine if we are attuned to that. So that feeling
1282
01:17:25.380 --> 01:17:28.279
that I have is expressed. Not only can I express
1283
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.199
it and it's in the background, but then you are
1284
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.979
picking up that feeling from me and you feel it fully.
1285
01:17:38.449 --> 01:17:40.949
what an incredible, you know, hour and a half that
1286
01:17:40.989 --> 01:17:44.880
would be when you know somebody is, you know, so
1287
01:17:44.939 --> 01:17:48.100
loving with you and cares about you and then you
1288
01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:50.859
are also receiving that as well and you're giving that
1289
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.460
and there's this, there's this cyclical thing like I'm getting
1290
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.560
emotional just talking about this and imagining this. What a beautiful,
1291
01:17:59.659 --> 01:18:01.619
what a beautiful way to live and to live your life.
1292
01:18:02.170 --> 01:18:05.689
So then, when you walk out on the street and
1293
01:18:05.710 --> 01:18:09.260
you do your, you know, do your, um, You're grocery
1294
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:11.739
shopping or get in the car and you pass by
1295
01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:15.420
your neighbor. You're driving by and you're exuding this. And
1296
01:18:15.460 --> 01:18:17.500
then you're like around other people that are exuding this
1297
01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.920
to you in the grocery store, picking up stuff off
1298
01:18:19.939 --> 01:18:24.590
the aisles. Like how does the world change then?
1299
01:18:28.529 --> 01:18:31.029
By the way, as you were just doing that, there
1300
01:18:31.050 --> 01:18:32.590
was like rainbows coming off of you.
1301
01:18:33.170 --> 01:18:33.529
Really?
1302
01:18:34.029 --> 01:18:35.869
Like from your shoulder. Yeah.
1303
01:18:36.430 --> 01:18:38.500
I was like, am I seeing... Because a lot of times,
1304
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.170
I have to second guess myself, but it's like the
1305
01:18:41.170 --> 01:18:43.500
periphery of my vision. But yeah, it was like these
1306
01:18:43.500 --> 01:18:45.189
rainbows shooting off of your.
1307
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:48.270
Shoulders, kind of. i'm that yeah that's i've never heard
1308
01:18:48.289 --> 01:18:50.899
of that that's awesome that's amazing.
1309
01:18:51.409 --> 01:18:54.720
Yeah wow.
1310
01:18:56.020 --> 01:19:01.619
Uh yeah what a what a beautiful thing to envision
1311
01:19:02.020 --> 01:19:05.380
and it's it's reminding me of um like one thing
1312
01:19:05.899 --> 01:19:09.119
in couples it's like you've heard of the um.
1313
01:19:09.619 --> 01:19:10.439
The love languages.
1314
01:19:10.460 --> 01:19:13.569
And it's like, my wife and I, we have different
1315
01:19:13.590 --> 01:19:17.550
love languages and like, I'm always expressing my love most
1316
01:19:17.670 --> 01:19:21.880
easily in my love language, um, which is physical touch.
1317
01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:26.779
And she wants lots of compliments.
1318
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:27.279
Right.
1319
01:19:27.699 --> 01:19:30.520
And so it doesn't, it doesn't always like I'm like,
1320
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:32.539
I'm just giving all this love. And she's like, actually,
1321
01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:36.300
that's too much touch. More compliments. And so we're like,
1322
01:19:36.500 --> 01:19:38.239
we're missing that. But if we could, if we had
1323
01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:42.109
that more pure telepathic connection, then like, I just want you.
1324
01:19:42.050 --> 01:19:46.050
To get this love that I'm sending your way. Yeah,
1325
01:19:46.529 --> 01:19:51.409
that would be, that'd be amazing. And it would, you know,
1326
01:19:52.609 --> 01:19:58.439
in various relationships, you would feel much more, uh, at
1327
01:19:58.579 --> 01:20:01.619
ease and seen and just like participatory, I think in
1328
01:20:01.659 --> 01:20:02.810
some ways.
1329
01:20:02.819 --> 01:20:06.890
Yeah. If, if you think back and like for most people,
1330
01:20:06.909 --> 01:20:09.170
I think, and people listening to this, like if you
1331
01:20:09.189 --> 01:20:14.750
think back, the, probably the relationship or the people that
1332
01:20:14.770 --> 01:20:19.449
you fight most with are probably also the ones that
1333
01:20:19.810 --> 01:20:22.489
you love the most and love you the most. So
1334
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.579
I know that the most fights and arguments and discussions
1335
01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:27.739
that I've ever had has been with my parents and,
1336
01:20:29.739 --> 01:20:34.020
And I don't know anybody that loves me more than
1337
01:20:34.060 --> 01:20:38.899
them and that I love more than them, you know? Yet,
1338
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.640
how does that happen? And I'm sure everybody has experiences
1339
01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:43.819
like that where the people that you are closest to,
1340
01:20:44.460 --> 01:20:48.699
there's the most amount of harsh words said or, you know,
1341
01:20:48.739 --> 01:20:53.239
passive aggressiveness or however people express their whatever it is.
1342
01:20:53.270 --> 01:20:53.600
Sure.
1343
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.880
How sad is that, you know, when... It's like the
1344
01:20:57.909 --> 01:21:02.539
people that you love, you're hurting the most. So.
1345
01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:13.350
Yeah. There's... And here's the other thing.
1346
01:21:19.609 --> 01:21:22.590
The container that we created in Sedona, we had 45 people,
1347
01:21:22.630 --> 01:21:26.800
which was a big group. Yeah. I wasn't sure how
1348
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:29.100
it turned out because it was so many people. Um,
1349
01:21:29.189 --> 01:21:30.750
but we did 30 before
and it went well and
1350
01:21:30.770 --> 01:21:33.550
I'm like, okay, let's see if we do more. Um,
1351
01:21:34.189 --> 01:21:38.189
and it turned out amazingly. Um, we would open each
1352
01:21:38.250 --> 01:21:43.729
day with this, uh, loving, uh, kindness and this intention. Um,
1353
01:21:44.060 --> 01:21:46.539
and this would be happening and would be reverberating throughout
1354
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:54.359
the day. And every, each day it got more, more profound, more,
1355
01:21:54.859 --> 01:21:58.680
more deep, more, People became, got closer and closer to
1356
01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:01.760
each other. And, and by the end of it, by
1357
01:22:01.779 --> 01:22:04.460
the end of the seven days, everybody was on just
1358
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:09.159
such a, such a level of compassion and love for
1359
01:22:09.180 --> 01:22:11.890
each other. And like, we're all still in contact with, like,
1360
01:22:11.970 --> 01:22:15.470
I've never seen it like this. It's incredible. Like people
1361
01:22:15.489 --> 01:22:20.510
are really, have really found family. And that's with 45 people.
1362
01:22:20.550 --> 01:22:23.069
And we're all elevating, like we're sharing all of these
1363
01:22:23.109 --> 01:22:25.920
things and we're all, you know, we found, somebody found this,
1364
01:22:25.939 --> 01:22:28.220
somebody found that, and we're trying to share and spread
1365
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:32.640
the knowledge and roll together. Imagine if this container is
1366
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:35.739
not than like 45 people in, in doing this, but
1367
01:22:35.779 --> 01:22:38.340
it's like in your town, in your local town, the
1368
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:41.800
entire community, you know, has all of this love for
1369
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:45.000
each other and everybody's trying to help each other and
1370
01:22:45.140 --> 01:22:47.600
expand that to, you know, a city and expand that
1371
01:22:47.640 --> 01:22:51.560
to a country. You know, it's, changes the face of
1372
01:22:52.220 --> 01:22:54.779
the earth, like changes the face of humanity, the entire species.
1373
01:22:55.060 --> 01:22:57.659
It will no longer be a species of humans. It
1374
01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:00.039
will be something else. It'll have to be something else.
1375
01:23:00.140 --> 01:23:02.079
We'll be operating completely different.
1376
01:23:06.819 --> 01:23:08.949
That gives me the idea for an experiment.
1377
01:23:08.989 --> 01:23:12.470
Like there's various group events that I participate in and
1378
01:23:12.529 --> 01:23:16.369
or lead. I wonder if I just like regularly implemented
1379
01:23:17.329 --> 01:23:20.939
a loving kindness sort of intro. just to see what
1380
01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.779
would happen rather than just like for a sports team
1381
01:23:23.859 --> 01:23:27.000
or you know I have a hiking group a lot
1382
01:23:27.020 --> 01:23:28.279
of times we just show up and we just start
1383
01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:31.119
so but what if we yeah
if we did like
1384
01:23:31.149 --> 01:23:34.210
just a few moments of I know some sports teams
1385
01:23:34.270 --> 01:23:36.010
do you know like a group prayer in the locker
1386
01:23:36.029 --> 01:23:36.869
room and stuff so.
1387
01:23:38.270 --> 01:23:41.750
Yeah there's there's something that I felt to be really
1388
01:23:41.789 --> 01:23:49.550
really important and I've seen with over time setting intentions
1389
01:23:50.180 --> 01:23:54.239
seems to be really, really, really important. Setting intentions for
1390
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.680
what you want to come out of whatever it is
1391
01:23:56.699 --> 01:23:59.659
that you're doing, whether it's, you know, like a sports team,
1392
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:03.100
good practice sessions for people to develop and grow, or
1393
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:05.270
it could just be the intention for the food that
1394
01:24:05.289 --> 01:24:10.869
you're eating to nurse you and balance you. And what
1395
01:24:10.930 --> 01:24:13.069
seems to be the case is being in a state
1396
01:24:13.090 --> 01:24:17.180
of loving kindness seems to amplify that, but also in
1397
01:24:17.500 --> 01:24:22.720
almost all magical practices or esoteric practices that I've heard of,
1398
01:24:24.380 --> 01:24:27.579
they all recommend to have the intention for not just
1399
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:30.220
to be a selfish intention for yourself, but to talk
1400
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.939
about how this is going to benefit all beings. And
1401
01:24:34.010 --> 01:24:36.149
how by benefiting you, you can then be in a
1402
01:24:36.189 --> 01:24:38.770
place or in a position to help others around you better,
1403
01:24:39.189 --> 01:24:42.069
to inspire others, to motivate others, to be there for them,
1404
01:24:42.729 --> 01:24:45.229
and to see that. And this kind of makes sense
1405
01:24:45.270 --> 01:24:48.989
because if you believe in guides and spirit helpers or whatever...
1406
01:24:49.069 --> 01:24:52.050
whatever it is, whatever resonates for you, then of course
1407
01:24:52.090 --> 01:24:54.449
they're going to be helping you to do what you want.
1408
01:24:55.109 --> 01:24:57.069
But if you're putting that out there for everyone else
1409
01:24:57.149 --> 01:25:00.479
as well, then those other ones that are involved with
1410
01:25:00.619 --> 01:25:05.739
and taking care of their own humans, they're going to
1411
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.319
get involved to help you as well because there's going
1412
01:25:08.340 --> 01:25:16.720
to be a spillover effect. So there's kind of like
1413
01:25:16.739 --> 01:25:21.239
a formula there to... to make the most out of
1414
01:25:21.270 --> 01:25:22.149
these kinds of practices.
1415
01:25:25.010 --> 01:25:27.850
Yeah, I was actually, Aaron Abkey came on my show
1416
01:25:27.909 --> 01:25:31.010
and he was talking about one of the reasons that
1417
01:25:31.109 --> 01:25:35.760
Jesus was such a master manifester is because he was
1418
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:39.699
so perfectly attuned to the greatest good that he was,
1419
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:46.810
like whatever he was doing was already like what, you know, the,
1420
01:25:47.029 --> 01:25:49.869
the best possible thing for everybody. So it was like,
1421
01:25:50.869 --> 01:25:52.970
he didn't have to add much to make it happen.
1422
01:25:52.989 --> 01:25:54.600
You know, he just like tapped in and was like,
1423
01:25:55.270 --> 01:25:56.199
kicked it off basically.
1424
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.659
Yeah. I, I have a good friend of mine who
1425
01:26:00.699 --> 01:26:03.800
has a story like that where they're handing out, um,
1426
01:26:04.699 --> 01:26:09.199
candies after, um, uh, it was, it was a kind
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of like a, a school event, a university event. And
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they're handing out candies and he was, quite involved as
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a Christian at the time and not that this and
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the reason I mention this is I don't think it's
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definitely not only one religion or only one faith I
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01:26:26.229 --> 01:26:29.369
think it's available to everyone regardless of faith and religion
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01:26:30.949 --> 01:26:33.060
but he made a prayer because they were running out
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01:26:33.100 --> 01:26:34.979
of candies very quickly and they didn't have much left
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and he really made a prayer and he had all
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sorts of miracles happen to him in the past and
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they ended up never running out of that bag, and
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they served hundreds and hundreds of people.
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Whoa. That's so fun.
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That reminds me of, I was interviewing the Mandela Effect researcher,
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Cynthia Sue Larson, and she was at a diner with
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her kids, and they paid the bill, but they didn't
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have any more cash to leave a tip, and they
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01:27:07.220 --> 01:27:08.939
really liked their waitress, and they were like, we really
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want to give her a big tip. So they were like,
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let's just see if we can pull money out of
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the wallet. And they would pull a dollar out of
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the wallet, and then close the wallet up, and then
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01:27:19.460 --> 01:27:20.960
open it, and another dollar was in there.
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01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:21.739
And they would pull it out.
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And they just did it until there was a huge
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pile of money to give this waitress.
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And it wasn't for them. It was just purely because
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01:27:31.119 -->
01:27:34.119
they really loved to bestow this on the waitress. And
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it worked.
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That's cool. That's very, very cool. That's very, very cool.
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There was... I love these stories because hearing stories like
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this opens up your mind to what's possible and it
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01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:49.810
puts you more in that resonance. It's the thing that
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01:27:49.819 --> 01:27:52.550
we were talking at the beginning where I'm in awe
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01:27:52.649 --> 01:27:55.069
while you're talking, while you're telling me this story and
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01:27:55.270 --> 01:28:00.229
I'm entering more and more into this state. We had
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01:28:00.250 --> 01:28:03.149
somebody on the last training who every now and then,
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01:28:03.649 --> 01:28:07.750
he was known as the milk guy because... His story
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was every now and then when his jug of milk
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01:28:09.890 --> 01:28:12.689
would be running low and he just, whatever, he was
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in the right space. He was too lazy to go outside,
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01:28:16.310 --> 01:28:18.960
so he'd shake the milk and it would start to
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fill up. Wow. Yeah.
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That's so fun.
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Yeah.
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Man, there's way more stories.
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01:28:38.979 --> 01:28:41.300
Um i feel like we we may be getting towards
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01:28:41.340 --> 01:28:43.979
a good place to uh to sort of wrap things
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01:28:44.060 --> 01:28:46.699
up is there anything else that i haven't asked you
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01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:48.479
about that you really want to share.
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I'd like to leave people with uh with with something
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01:28:57.619 --> 01:29:07.000
um First off, just to wrap up those few stories,
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I think you're only limited by imagination. Keep that principle
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in mind. I don't think there's any other limitations except imagination,
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01:29:15.949 --> 01:29:25.390
and you can imagine up anything. The other thing, and
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01:29:25.409 --> 01:29:30.970
a really, really important one, is we mentioned this a
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little bit, earlier in the conversation, but I really want
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to drive this home, is.
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These abilities or these phenomena, they're not limited to special
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01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:47.239
kinds of people. It's not a gift.
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01:29:48.699 --> 01:29:49.180
It's innate.
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01:29:50.220 --> 01:29:59.699
You know, it's your... Your birthright. We have these. We're
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born with these.
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And.
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01:30:03.069 --> 01:30:07.159
anybody listening to this, we're already in the minority of
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01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:09.779
the world, of the population, in the world of people
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01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:12.180
that actually believe this kind of stuff is possible or
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that might be doing it. I invite everyone to come
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01:30:17.789 --> 01:30:22.609
into the minority of that minority. And what I mean
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01:30:22.649 --> 01:30:25.390
by that is don't be part of the minority that
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01:30:25.670 --> 01:30:29.600
believes in this stuff but then subscribes to the idea
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01:30:29.649 --> 01:30:32.260
that you need to do I don't know what, you
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01:30:32.300 --> 01:30:35.189
need to again fast to be able to do some
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01:30:35.210 --> 01:30:36.899
of these things or meditate to be able to do
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01:30:36.909 --> 01:30:38.649
some of these things not that i am opposed to
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01:30:38.689 --> 01:30:42.239
those things great do them they're useful they're healthy i
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01:30:42.260 --> 01:30:48.380
believe they're very good but you already we already have
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01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:51.720
unsubscribed from the belief that these things are not possible
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01:30:52.180 --> 01:30:55.000
that we cannot affect physical reality that we are limited
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01:30:55.380 --> 01:30:59.119
to these to the body only that there's nothing beyond
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01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:02.890
that we already have unsubscribed to these beliefs I invite
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01:31:02.949 --> 01:31:05.850
everybody to also unsubscribe to the belief that these things
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01:31:06.250 --> 01:31:10.529
are out of reach or take time or effort to attain.
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01:31:10.550 --> 01:31:16.890
These are all immediately attainable and doable by everyone here
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01:31:17.149 --> 01:31:21.479
listening to this. I invite everyone to take that stance.
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01:31:22.020 --> 01:31:25.500
There's a movement within the movement of psychic skills or
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01:31:25.539 --> 01:31:28.899
whatever you want to call them. And that movement is this.
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01:31:29.789 --> 01:31:32.729
That those old ways of thinking where you need a
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01:31:32.810 --> 01:31:36.010
guru or you need a master or you need anything
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01:31:36.029 --> 01:31:41.500
like that, those days are over. We are all our
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01:31:41.539 --> 01:31:44.779
own guru, our own master. We find the strength, the power,
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01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:49.220
the ability, the belief within ourselves. So I invite everyone
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01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:52.779
to take that on and take that on as their
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01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:54.100
new reality. Hmm.
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01:31:58.979 --> 01:32:00.680
Well said thank you thank.
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01:32:00.539 --> 01:32:02.460
You for giving me the space to um to share
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01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:03.819
this message.
1524
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.640
Yeah yeah thank you for coming on and maybe you
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01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:12.350
could point people to where they can find out more
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01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:14.729
about you and and your next trainings.
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01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:15.970
And it's meant to be it's meant to be it'll
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01:32:15.989 --> 01:32:18.369
happen i'm not worried about that.
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01:32:18.250 --> 01:32:25.149
All right okay perfect love it well yeah alex thanks
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01:32:25.170 --> 01:32:26.989
so much absolutely.
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01:32:26.470 --> 01:32:30.000
Thank you derek very much um It was a pleasure
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01:32:30.100 --> 01:32:31.600
having this conversation with you.
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Yeah, likewise. All right, we'll talk soon.