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The Dead Pixels Society Podcast is brought to you by Media clip, Advertek Printing, and Independent Photo Imagers.
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Welcome to The Dead Pixels Society Podcast, the photoimaging industry's leading news source.
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Here's your host, Gary Pageau.
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Hello again, and welcome to the Dead Pixel Society Podcast.
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I'm your host, Gary Pageau.
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And today we're joined by Henry Kang, who's the founder and CEO of ClipTo.
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Hey Henry, how are you today?
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Good.
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How are you, Gary?
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Thank you for inviting me.
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For the people who aren't aware of your story and the company, what is it about?
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What puts you on the radar for my audience?
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So what we're making, we believe is one of the canned product in the AI society in the AI era, which crypto is a we call it uh local first um memory for professionals, especially for content creators, like filmmakers, photographers, etc.
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But of course it goes beyond that.
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But I believe for the for the for the audience we're talking about, we're more emphasizing and focusing on the content creator society.
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Yeah.
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So when you talk local, let's talk a little bit about that because there's always, you know, when people talk about AI now, there's all the cloud stuff that's happening, and all, you know, with uh in terms of credits and systems and things.
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What are some of the advantages of having a local model versus a cloud-based model?
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And is it, I mean, do you have to provide your own hardware?
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How does this even work?
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It actually comes with quite a few advantages.
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First is really by first principle, right?
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The first thing we talk about is where the data is, where the data is like already sits on, right?
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So when we think about for creators, photographers, we already have like terabytes of video, footage, audio files that already sit on our computer or sits on our external hard drive, NAS uh storage, right?
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So the data is is first local.
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So by first principle, it's actually much easier and also much more user-friendly to put the computation closer to where the data is already, right?
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So that makes it much easier to uh process.
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So we don't have to wait for the data to be uploaded to the cloud.
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And also burning our then the second advantage comes in is it leverages our existing computer, existing part AI chips that we have already purchased, that we don't burn extra extra cloud tokens um to process those data.
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So that's our that's our second advantage.
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Right.
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And the third advantage, which then comes to privacy, comes to data security.
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Right.
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Right.
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So all the data, all the things on your computer, and our computation is down on your right on your computer next to your data.
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So if the users choose to, they can have all the computations happen, everything local.
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So nothing leaves their computer.
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So that's the that that helps people, especially when they are processing either sensitive data or they are working on a project that's under like NDA, right?
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So you don't know if you upload to Google Server or Meta Server who are going to look at those data.
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So in the terms of service, you may be opting in to letting those people look at your data.
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You may not realize they're doing it, but it's the fine print on those.
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It's in the fine print.
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Exactly.
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We get to monetize all of your content and you can't do anything about it.
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And you know, you're out of luck.
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So yeah.
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So what are some of the things?
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Because from what I've been reading about your company, you can do a lot of things with the local device model.
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What made you decide to focus on can you decide on that as opposed to all the other possibilities that are out there?
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There are a couple of things.
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Of course, like for local, you can process image, you can process text.
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But what when we look at this, we think about okay, what's the hardest problem to solve?
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Because there are tons, there are tons of other services out there who can help you with Word, help you with uh text, right?
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But really, video is the hardest media format right now out there.
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That's barely, and there's barely anyone being able to uh process those data efficiently, intelligently, and not mentioning like processing those locally on your computer.
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So it's never heard of before.
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So it's not even possible.
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People even not think about it possible before before us.
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So when we think about this, that's the first of all, that's the hardest media, that's the hardest problem to solve.
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Second is what's the large like most like fast growing media format?
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Right.
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When we think about that, it's also video, right?
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Everyone is consuming video, everyone is generating or creating videos.
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So that that also means there's a huge market out there.
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Yeah, uh, there are so many creators working with with videos right now.
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So that's how we actually laying down our problem to start with videos.
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Because that's one of the challenges you have with video, is yes, everyone's consuming it, but you have to be able to access it, know where it is, put it in context, and do something with it.
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And that's what your system helps you do, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Because that's the funny thing, right?
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When we are like 2026, right?
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And AI has has been so much advanced.
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But when you look at video files, when you look at computers, computer file systems, if you if you shoot a video and you import it to your computer, all the files are named as DJI003.
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Right, exactly.
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Or did this or yeah, exactly?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So even though AI has been so much advanced, but when we look at how people are handling and processing those video files, right?
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It's like like the stone age, right?
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So uh nothing been nothing has been uh progressed since like early 2000, right?
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So and when we when people look at, but when when we as human, when we think about content, when we think about media, when we think about video, we're thinking about like visually, right?
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So the the like my background, that's the sunset at the Golden Gate Bridge, right?
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So it's never it's never like a DJI 00.3, right?
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So it's it's when we when people think about those content, we're always thinking about visually.
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We're thinking about it in a way we put it in the natural language description, right?
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So that's where we see the gap, and uh that's where really the product comes in to bridge that gap so that people can when they think about something, they can describe it in natural language and the technology, our technology comes in to bridge that gap.
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So it turns all those misnames, like file names, into uh really people understandable visual descriptions, and so people can find every clip, every moment they're looking for just by describing it.
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Because I'm looking at like a there's a lot of happening, for example, in the professional photographer space, where there's yeah, they're taking still images and they're using various cloud platforms, and there are some localized ones to call the images and whatever, but a lot of them are also doing a lot with video now, like you said.
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And again, I don't think there's a lot of people who are able to manage the video piece accepted.
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So this is sort of an application for that sort of thing, is where you could you know accentuate the video assets you're creating because right now it's almost an add-on to a photographer.
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Yeah, it's like you know, I'm gonna have a drone, I'm gonna shoot some video, I'm gonna have a B-roll with somebody shooting some video, but it's not really the feature of the event because I want to focus on the skills.
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But I can see where something like this could really be very advantageous to the storytelling if there was some context to do it efficiently.
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Because I think that's the challenge.
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You can do all the stuff you're saying, but it's it's terribly time consuming.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like when we we have been talking with so many creators of photographers in a space, and uh, we are we're seeing quite a few of those uh challenges that people are facing.
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Like when we especially like when you talk about like when they're working on a project, when they deliver that project, and even nowadays, people are actually manually writing down like footage log, right?
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Yeah, writing down all what's happening in each of those files manually.
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Right.
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It's unimaginable.
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So talk a little bit about specifically about what your company does as a product or service for that.
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I mean, if somebody's interested, what how do they what do they do?
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I mean, are they buying hardware and installing your software?
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Are they having a subscription?
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Do you sell hardware?
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What is it that you guys actually do?
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Yeah, so what we believe is nowadays everyone is having a super powerful AI computer on their laptop already.
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When so what we're trying to do is uh what we observe is that they already have the power
of computation, it's just the lag that application that can help them unleash that AI power power on their computer.
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So so we what we deliver is the software, is in it's basically an application.
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So people download from our website and onto their computer.
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They can it supports both Mac and Windows platform, and they just install it as a as an app that as they as they download like a Zoom or any other software.
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Right.
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So they just install the software and we we actually have already set up all the computational pipeline, all the backend system, and without them knowing or worrying anything about the technology part.
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So we yeah, so that's after they install the app, they just add or give us access to the selected files or folders or directories or the archive, wherever it is, right?
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Archives, where wherever it is, and and we will process those data using their existing AI chips and help them basically we call index all the files and understanding all the visuals and helping them catalog them, and also if there's any like known people, we will be we'll be able to recognize the people in the footage in the video and public figures, but people can also define their own people, the people they work with.
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So basically, everything will be indexed and cataloged right on their computer.
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And then when they want to say, I'm working on a project and I'm looking for this, the shot of the sunset golden gate bridge.
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I just type in uh sunset golden bridge, golden gate bridge, and then Victor will help them uh find that clip.
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Uh, I mean, can I mean can does it have to be that finite?
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Could it just say bridge or sunset and it would give you an array of those, or do you is it more specific, the better?
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Well, whichever way they describe, like okay, say I just if I just type in bridge, I may find golden gray bridge, I may find my hand and bridge, right?
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So all the all the ones that match bridge will come up.
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And then the more fine-grained, the more descriptive you you put in, the the the better match it will be.
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Because I think when you know what's interesting is that when you see people do, and I know this is in generative, right?
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But when people do generative stuff, they start with a very simple prompt and they become more and more descriptive as they go, right?
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And I can see where learning that skill would be very useful for what you're doing, right?
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Because show me bridge pictures.
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No, I want sunset bridge pictures, I want California sunset bridge pictures, I want sunset bridge, you know.
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So I mean, you could be the I think when people learn those skills, they'll actually be able to use AI much more than they can transfer it, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, they can transfer it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So what about something like can you do something like let's say I'm in a corporate environment and there's a corporate archive, because that's a big business right now where all these companies have these, you know, let's say it's it's a big company and they've got an archive of content, and maybe they want to do a historical retrospective, right?
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Can they create that stuff within your platform or just find this stuff?
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Yeah, yeah, it's so interesting you brought that up because initially we're just talking about creator space for this audience, but really our user base actually goes much broader.
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And and actually the actually one number, one number is that the amount of Fortune 500 companies, actually, over half of the Fortune 5 companies' employees use our platform, use crypto to help them archive their uh business uh content, their business like meetings or their marketing footage, marketing assets, data.
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So just like you said, yeah, so it actually goes beyond just creator film uh filmmaker, photographer, and also extending to general business professionals.
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I can see where that would be a big advantage to have that local, as opposed to putting it on the cloud, where like you said, you may have corporate things you don't want to be on the open internet, right?
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For various reasons, security reasons.
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So that's exactly where it's like that would be a good now.
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If you're also talking about a photographer or videographer who's maybe an independent, again, they don't want their content getting out there either, right?
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If you're let's say you're taking, you know, well, like for example, one of the markets, yeah, one of the markets that we work, you know, that we cover is a school photography market, right?
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Taking pictures of school photos and yearbooks.
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And the challenge there is many of those states have very strict privacy laws on using this kind of stuff.
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So that's so if you care about your client's content from a privacy standpoint, you definitely want to look at an on-premise solution.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We believe that technology should really give that option back to the users, to the customers, so they can
choose.
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I want to keep the data local, I don't want to share with shared it with anyone.
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Actually, we serve quite a few of those uh industries segments that are very uh sensitive and uh data about the data privacy.
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Actually, some of the law firms use our product to archive and to process their internal data.
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Uh and also some of the doctors and uh finished finance industry, they use the crypto to index and uh process their internal data as well.
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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because you know, even if you're using, you know, I have heard of some companies using things like you know, Amazon photos or Google photos for archiving.
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Thinking you're letting them read all of your content.
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You're opting in to letting them, you know, and then you're trusting that they're not gonna let your content be exposed to the world, which in a case of a company or if you've got privacy concerns with your content at all, that's not a great idea.
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Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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I think technology really should give people options.
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So what's the learning curve on something like this, right?
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So I mean, because I I'm I'm thinking of you know, a lot of my audience are you know small independent businesses, right?
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They're not Fortune 500.
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I've got a few Fortune 500 company listeners, but not that many.
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But you know, so so the learning curve on getting involved in something like this.
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Let's say I've got a Mac mini sitting there, fairly recent.
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It's got the M3 or M4 chip or whatever, so I can do some AI stuff on it.
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I throw your product on it.
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You know, what's how long is it going to take me to get up to speed on something like this if I'm not, you know, a an AI expert?
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If I'm just a regular business person who wants to find my stuff.
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We believe we are probably one of the easiest AI products, AI apps out there that's that's most user-friendly.
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I think our standard is we internally we put a AI like Apple's standard as our product standard.
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So we really want to make a product that's user-friendly and also easy for people to use, and they don't have to struggle too much to understand.
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Because, like when you think about it, basically there's zero need, zero requirement on the users about their technology, understanding of AI.
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They don't have to deal with command line, they don't
have to deal with like any like writing any code, like like working with any like Python or any of that.
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Right.
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For them, they they just they think they're just downloading an app.
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That's it.
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Just like they're downloading a Adobe Premiere or Final Cut, and that's it.
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When they and they don't have to worry about, oh, in the background, actually there are so many AI models running, right?
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So anything like that are all transparent from the user.
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So they don't for them, they're just working with an application and they download it and launch it, open it, and all the user interfaces we believe are quite intuitive.
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Okay.
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So what are some of the customers' feedback you've gotten?
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Because you've been in the marketplace for a while, and if you're you know, you've got some good attention from some of the sites on you know, recognizing recognizing your product.
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So, you know, what directions has that taken you?
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What surprises have you had when you hear from customers?
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Hey, I'm using it this way.
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Yeah, there has been quite a few surprises along the way.
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The first, like we already have mentioned, we already already talked about one point, is when we started, we really thought that crypto is in the product for the content creator market.
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Right.
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And then soon after we launched, we start to realize actually there are more and more people coming from many, many different industries that are starting to pick it up.
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And including lawyers, including professors, students, um doctors from every business.
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So that's that's one surprise we actually found because we thought, oh, crypto initially is for photographer to organize their video video footage, right?
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So yeah, yeah.
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And then then people are actually, for example, lawyers are using it to search for like like evidences in their law cases.
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Yeah, right.
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So that's really how surprising for us how broadly people are using it.
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Right.
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And also that's then we came to the realization that because getting access to data, getting access to information is so generic, right?
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It's so universal.
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Everyone wants that, and everyone needs that.
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And nowadays, when AI is becoming so so much powerful, it's easy to generate more and more content.
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And content is just exploding.
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But there's really no way to efficiently finding and efficiently managing those content.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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That's one.
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So that's first that's the first surprise.
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And the su second surprise came.
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When we recently launched our crypto MCP.
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So what crypto MCP does is crypto by itself is an is a standalone application.
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People download crypto and they import data to crypto and they search data, they search and or do other stuff in inside crypto.
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But what crypto MCP does is it connects crypto with all the other AI agents out there.
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So for example, through Crypto MCP, you can you can have your cloud, like right now it's for cloud or chat GPT PC app access your crypto application.
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And through that you can say, I want to find something when I'm chatting with cloud, I can actually use but is the data going back to cloud or is it staying local?
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Staying local.
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Yeah, it's local.
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Yeah, it's local.
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Yeah.
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And what's interesting, what interesting we found is that people are because before we we were thinking about one-way workflow is I have an idea and about a about a video or a project I'm working on, and I just and looking for a clip or looking for a snippet to go with that project.
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But then when we have the MCP, we find it the other way.
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Actually, people are using cloud and using clip combination of cloud and crypto in a way that I have those data, all those footage.
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What kind of video, what kind of content I can create?
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So it's kind of it's actually coming from the raw content side instead of starting with an idea and starting with that.
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So hey, you know, what can I do with all this content of the San Francisco of the of the Golden Gate Bridge, right?
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What can I create from all of this stuff?
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What can I create?
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Yeah.
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So it's actually when we have all those we call memory, actually, people when we have access to those memory, actually people have generated more ideas rather than they're sticking to one idea.
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Right.
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I think that's another surprise for us.
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That's an interesting way of thinking about it because you're
right.
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I mean, people are creating so much content now, and not even in the corporate space, in the consumer space, right?
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I mean, and what's it what it's done is it's created almost a paralysis where it's almost stressful to look at your photos on your phone now because you have so many.
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And how do you pick the one?
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And what do I do with it, right?
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And wouldn't it be great to just go exactly?
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Hey, listen, here's my trip overseas that I just went on.
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Make me a nice something out of it.
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And maybe you take the videos and you take the still.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like we recently also internally we made a funny video.
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We we tried to index uh a thousand of Elon Musk's interview clips.
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So once we have indexed that in crypto, we connect it to cloud and asked it, we have all those Elon Musk uh interviews, and we want to make we want to create a funny video of Elon Musk and maybe a video with some music.
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And what really surprised us is after after the AI looked through all the interviews of Elon Musk, it actually came up with an idea that it saw Elon Musk repeat one phrase in many of those interviews.
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Right.
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Elon Musk, he likes one phrase around the word.
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Okay.
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He repeats he repeats that phrase in many of those interviews.
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What phrase is that?
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Around the world.
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I can type it in.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, that's fine.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So then so then the AI decides, okay, then we can actually make a funny video of Elon Musk by putting his interview clips into you know Daft Punk, right?
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Daft Punk has the MV titled Around the World.
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So it's just repeating the around the world, around the world, right?
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So yeah, so AI came up came up with that idea and including all those, you can you can actually play that video in the podcast later on.
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So it decides the topic and it decides which music to pick, and then it actually pulls all those tips that you know must repeat the around the word, a phrase, and bug that in in back into that video.
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Oh, that's
crazy.
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I'll send you the the the the so eventually AI created the whole video by itself.
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So it's it's very funny.
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Yeah, that's yeah, that's interesting because I mean, you know, obviously that kind of video has been around a long time, right?
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People have done that, but what you've created there is a really opening that up to somebody who may not have those technical skills to do that or the time or the all that.
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But I mean, people have been doing that sort of thing for a long time, and I think that's really what I think is interesting with sort of the AI revolution that's happening now is people want to do these things, but it's either time prohibitive, cost prohibitive, skills prohibitive, right?
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Because maybe they may not have the video editing skills to make those things work.
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And I think it's gonna open that up to a lot of a lot of people.
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And some people obviously some of it's gonna be crap, right?
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Some of it's gonna be terrible, some of it's gonna be really good.
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It's just like everything else, right?
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And I think it'll be interesting to see what happens.
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Now, with something like that, let's say you were to post that somewhere, let's say on Facebook or Google, would you have you would have to say that's AI generated?
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You would you have to indicate that's AI or not?
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Because you're not generating anything.
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Is it AI editing?
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Is that I'm curious, you know, because there's such a sensitivity to that now.
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With because like you create something in a generative AI, you can't you get we have to say it in the post.
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This is creative, but you you're not generating anything actually, you're just editing.
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Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
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You I think it doesn't really fall under the standard AI generated context category.
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Yeah, but it's fun.
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I think people yeah, I'm I'm just curious because it is, I mean, AI in that case is making some editorial decisions.
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Yeah, it's assembling something, right?
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It'll be interesting.
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I I don't think it's gonna shake out.
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I think that's but it is interesting because you know, I think people are super sensitive sensitive now to to generative stuff where somebody does something they wouldn't normally do is of course you know not great, but assembling a video a
music video, that's that's fine.
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That's who who cares?
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That's fun stuff.
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I found the link.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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Thank you.
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Appreciate that.
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Yeah, we'll we'll drop that into the final edit, and we'll see what we'll see what we can.
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Cool, cool.
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So, over the course of the company, where do you think you're gonna be heading to, right?
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I mean, you're getting a lot of feedback from customers, you're finding new markets.
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Is there a media type you think you're gonna specialize in, or are you just gonna be the all-for-one type thing, or does it even matter media types anymore?
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Because it's all kind of a mishmash today.
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Exactly.
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I think the that mishmash is the right word.
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I think right now it's it's just we as a human being, we're just so buried and so overwhelmed by the explosion of all those data, all those content.
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Right.
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And including we started with video, right?
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We started with the hardest format, but we we are also, or we have already included like audios, included photos, um, like all those easier content, right?
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Easier format.
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And we are probably also going into PDF, Word, all those like more structured data.
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But really, I think uh regardless of the media, regardless of the content, what's really fascinated and what we are really obsessed with is really to help the humanity solve the memory problem, exactly.
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So I believe that's uh that's going to be even more in the future, right?
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When when we have more rich content, more more and more of our everyday life, uh, everyday work, are interacting with and overwhelmed by those contents, then we're going to have a more memory profile platform in the future.
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So really, I think to summarize, I think that memory problem is really what we're solving.
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Okay.
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So if somebody wanted to experience Clip 2 and play with it and do where can they go for more information?
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Because you can just download it from your website, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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They can just go to our website, crypto.com, and they will be able to find all the solutions out there, regardless of their if their Mac or Windows or either of the platforms.
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Is there a I mean, is there a pricing based on the size of the archive or how many devices it's on?
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How does that even work?
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You know, I mean, because I would think you've got giant companies and they're not paying all, you know, I'm just curious how that scales, right?
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So right now we are offering it as a more simplified subscription, right?
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So it's 25, I believe it's 2499 a month, regardless of the how much content they put in.
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Yeah.
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So we want to make it as easy as possible.
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So don't they don't have to worry about oh, I have one terabyte data, I have 10 terabytes data.
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Right.
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So it's a it's a simple yeah.
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So what about devices?
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What if you had more than one device?
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More than one computer.
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Right now it's yeah, it's actually right now it's one subscription across the platform.
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Okay.
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Um we yeah.
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The where we haven't really looked more into the multi-device just yet, but uh right now I think people are just genuinely finding it useful to use it.
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Um where we haven't think about like exploiting, exploiting it.
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Yeah.
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We'll see in the future.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, I mean because I can see the point where maybe you'd have depending on the size of your content library, right?
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You may have a device you'd want to, hey, this is my video device, this is my corporate archive device, and maybe they'll talk to each other, but for up for speed reasons, besides the archive, you may want it on separate devices.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think I think honestly, we are genuinely just interested to see how people are going to use it, uh, how the product is solving their, like helping them improve their workflow.
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And once people they're going to actually we see more people bring us ideas how they they can update and how they can improve their workflow.
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And it will generate like I we believe it just will bring us more idea about how we can adapt our business model to those, to those workflows, to those use cases.
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Okay.
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Well, thank you, Henry.
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It's been great to talk to you and meet you and learn more about the company.
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I appreciate it.
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Thank you so much for your time.
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And I encourage everyone to go try the software and download it and give it a whirl.
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Thank you, Gary.
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Yeah, thank you, sir.