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Welcome back to Seeing Red.
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I'm your host, Garrett Folks.
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We got a great episode for you.
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Representative Charles Cunningham gonna come on, talk about the car wreck that got him into politics.
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We're gonna be talking about Bo French, the railroad commissioner, former internet troll, current internet troll, that is really stirring up all of the races here in Texas over some comments he made over the weekend.
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We're gonna be talking about the money coming in to save Ken Pax and will it be enough to keep Texas red?
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And that and so much more on this week's episode.
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Stick around or jumping right into it with Representative our interview with Representative Cunningham earlier this week.
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Today I'm joined by Representative Charles Cunningham from House District 127 in the Emble area.
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He sits on public ed, local calendars, public health.
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He spent a career at Center Point helping the energy uh giant in the Houston area become one of the biggest companies in the world in the country and has spent a lot of time on law and order, criminal justice, bail reform, public ed stuff, and helping his area create a dredging district.
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We're gonna get into all of that today.
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But until then, let me just say a big old welcome to Representative Charles Cunningham.
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How are you doing today, sir?
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Garrett, I'm doing fine, sir.
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How are you doing?
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I'm doing good.
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Let's just start off with what led you into running for public office?
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Like what's how did you get into this?
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I remember like it was yesterday, Garrett.
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It was December 13th, 4 o'clock in the morning, and I heard a loud bang.
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I've got a two-story house.
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I heard a loud bang downstairs, and I my wife yelled out.
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I told her to call 911.
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I grabbed my second wife that I keep close beside me, and we went downstairs.
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And lo and behold, I had a Chevy pickup that had just driven through my house.
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Police got there real quick.
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I tell you, the only thing I remember them saying was, put the gun down, Mr.
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Cunningham.
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But but come to find out, you know, after after they did their reports and uh stuff, the uh police chief Ken Tice, he's retired now,
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told me that with the fingerprints and stuff that was left behind, that these were repeat offenders that were out on bond.
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And so, you know, that's where, you know, I just said I had uh had enough.
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And so a good friend of mine that I served on the school board with uh Dan Uberdy before he went to Austin was had announced his retirement, and I thought about it and people were encouraging me.
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And then I said, well, you know, I've been with Center Point Energy, a company that I've worked with uh since they were called Houston Lightning Power.
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Uh I've worked with them, you know, a number of years, over 30 plus years.
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Thought it was time to go ahead and and uh move on to a next phase of life.
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And so I decided to run, and uh the people 127 elected me, and we've been serving them since uh 2022.
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Wow.
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Well, thank you so much for uh for doing that, and especially like you know, it's not it's it's usually not a car in the living room, but there's more than a few politicians that have ended up being like activated into like pursuing higher office because of something like that.
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And it's it's always kind of crazy.
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This is the kind of stuff that happens of having a government breakdown or some sort of issue like that that really kind of motivates somebody to you know put their skin in the game.
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So I'm sorry that it happened to you, but I'm glad you're that glad you're in office there.
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What would you say thus far have been like your biggest wins or your biggest accomplishments in Austin?
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You know, I I think really just really just addressing the the needs, first of all, you have to address the needs of your district because that those are the people that send you to Austin.
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And, you know, you know, our needs, you know, circle around, you know, delivering, you know, relief for our taxpayers, you know, education is is is there, but also just keeping the criminals off the street.
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You know, we had the situation where a good friend of mine, you know, well, they became my good friends, Yvonne and Roy Ursan, their son tragically was killed going to get dinner for his family, was shot.
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And it just so happened that uh Omar Ursan was a deputy council constable.
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So the perpetrators killed a uh a law enforcement officer.
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And, you know, that really kind of got got got to me.
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And so we were fortunately later on, once I got to Austin, we were able to name part of 1960 our one of our FM roles in his honor.
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But in addition to that, some of the first bills that I introduced, you know, in relation to flooding was criminal justice.
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You know, I had two bills, they were called MBA, Minimal Bond Act, and FOB, felony all on bond.
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Those bills required not only passage out of the House and the Senate, but it would require a constitutional amendment.
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So, of course, in freshman year, you know, you're really just told to sit back and listen.
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You don't really get too much play.
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But the next time around, language in that bill was used by Senator Huffman.
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And so we did get a bill.
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We just couldn't get it to the point where we need it right now because of our folks on the other side of the aisle, which tend to have a different take on what government should do.
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You know, government should protect, punish, and promote.
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You know, they don't they don't want to protect communities, they don't want to punish criminals, and we're certainly not, you know, you know, promoting a lifestyle that's conducive to our, you know, to our communities.
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You know, they you know, everything they want is just for free.
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And guess what?
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After a while, money runs out.
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So where are you going to get it?
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But anyway, we can talk about that later.
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But that's uh that that was some of the things right there, Garrett.
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Let's take a step back a little bit and talk about bail reform as a as a whole.
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So what were the things that you were what are the key elements, at least of the stuff that uh Senator Huffman included in her bail reform push?
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What were the things that you're really trying to make sure like keep the bad people, the bad guys in jail without you know running afoul of the constitutional right of you know innocent until proven guilty and all that, you know, those two process rights?
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Okay, well, good.
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Well, there you know, for me there you know there were like really two main things.
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And and and and and and and and the first one was to stop the revolving door as they got out and and and and and and keep and keep the criminals in jail.
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The other one was the the minimum bond act was have a have a minimum bond, and I forgot, I don't have my bill with me, but it was no more this security bond and all this other good stuff.
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Make people pay if they're gonna get out.
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And so, you know, with the Minimum Bond Act, now I I've got the some of these, well, not all judges.
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Uh I've got I've got I've got some good friends, Dan Simmons, the governor appointed him.
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I mean, he's he's making these bonds, you know, a fair bond for for you know for the crime that you commit.
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You know, you shouldn't be able to get out on your own recognizance or whatever they call it for murder, you know.
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And so, you know, we want we want people to be justly serving their time, waiting on trial.
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We want quick trials too.
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That's the other problem that we're having now that we're gonna have to speed that up.
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I mean, it doesn't make any sense for somebody to commit a crime and the family is still looking for closure, you know, three, four, five, six years down the road.
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But anyway, so but it was those two acts, you know, stop the revolving door and and set bonds that that that really had bite in it.
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One a couple of things I want to talk about.
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One is there was a proposal to basically remove some judicial immunity so that if somebody committed a crime on bail, the judge could be sued.
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And then secondly, is you all, I guess, is that accurate and has that survived, or do you think that's likely to survive into future reform efforts?
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Well, I know, I know I'll be pushing forward, but uh at this point, I you know, Garrett, just to tell you the truth, I you know, I I don't know.
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You know, we've got you know, you know, the Democrats, Socialists, Progressives, whatever you want to call them, they just, I mean, they they they they they they they cater to, you know, you know, just to to the good guys, you know.
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Communities shouldn't be fearing living their in their community.
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I mean, they they cater to the you know, basically to the criminals.
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Criminals have more rights than the citizens.
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One of the things that pops up in Fort Pink County in my neck of the woods is that there are these associate judges and there are district court judges that are paid for by the state, where the associate judges are paid for by the county.
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And there is a problem where the the county court, county commissioners don't want to pay for any more associate judges, even though it would free up more judges to hear cases because they're waiting for the state to come in and just create more district judges because those district judges are paid for by the state.
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And so there probably needs to be a look at how
those things are funded to make sure that the money is available to hire judges regarding or elect more judges, and that process is less there's less chicken being played between the counties and the and the state, and so some so that those things so that people and the criminals and the the good guys are able to at least move forward in the pursuit of justice.
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Have you seen that in in Harris County where you're at?
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I would I would probably say that short answer is yes.
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And and I say that you know precisely what you're saying, Garrett.
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Everybody asks the question, yeah, we can do this, but who's gonna pay for it?
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And then you get the finger pointing, you know, and then you get mad at the state when we pass a law, and then you're saying you're mandating it without any money.
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And so, you know, we're gonna have to find a balance if we really want to address, you know, uh not only the concerns of the citizens, but you know, even the concerns of the state, you know.
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I mean, government's role, as I stated earlier, is is to protect, punish, and promote.
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And so, you know, we just have to prioritize how we're going to do this.
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And at a state level, you know, we'll we'll we'll we'll see where we're going.
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We still got some work to do, but but yeah, I can I can I can see that being an issue.
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Absolutely.
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Well, let's take a slight shift.
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You were in there for the last kind of homestead exemption fights and some of the, I guess, the preludes, what will happen in the 90th, or these other property tax fights.
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Explain a little bit about what y'all were able to get done in the 88th and the 89th to lower property tax bills and evaluations, and then let's talk a little bit more about the big three's push to cut spending by 3% across the board at the state government so that they can take on more MO taxes from the from the school boards.
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But let's start on that first bit.
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What have y'all gotten done and kind of what are you looking at as like the best option moving forward to lower people's property taxes going forward?
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Well, you know, in my uh first session, I think uh, you know, the House and the Senate, you know, with uh Senator Bett and Court leading the charge over in the Senate, we were able to do about, I want to say it was close to about 40 or 41 billion in property tax relief, not only for uh homeowners, but for uh small businesses, for our seniors 65 and over for disabled.
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And then we were able to cap on that in this last session, I think another 11 billion.
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Anyway, the whole total for the for at least my last four two sessions has been 51 billion in relief.
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And there's gonna be more on the way.
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You mentioned, I know that the governor has a plan where he wants to, you know, continue to address the MO tax that's really on the school district side, which is basically everybody's largest bill is is our is our school taxes.
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And so we'll be we'll be looking to see exactly what that's going to look like.
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If we were to do it at today's number, you're looking at replacing 13 billion.
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And so where is that going to come from?
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But I I think as we as we continue on, we're going to be able to look at it.
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Now the now the now the the issue is, and we talked about this a little bit between state and local government.
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Anytime the state does something that's probably a benefit, then the local government, not all, but some of them, go through the back door and then they end up raising taxes.
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And so, you know, the end user, which is, you know, the voter, the constituent, he doesn't really see that increase.
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And so once again, you know, we're trying to find that balance.
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And so I I you know, take, you know, you mentioned Fort Bend County, I can tell you Harris County uh is looking at raising taxes.
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Uh as a matter of fact, they're supposed to be maybe even voting on it uh today.
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Today is Tuesday.
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Uh you know, by some numbers, 12% increase.
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The county will tell you, well, it's only seven, and then some say eight, you know, but an increase is an increase.
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And you mentioned that the governor has already said that he wants to uh state agency-wise, look at a three percent, you know, cut, you know, deduction, savings, efficiency, whatever you want to, whatever name you want to put on it.
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But I want three percent.
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That's what the governor is saying.
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And I think that that three percent is easily found.
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I I say it to say this because I was recently appointed on the uh Sunset Advisory Commission, and we're reviewing most of the healthcare agencies this this uh uh term.
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The Department of Health and Human Services, they have a budget of$50 billion and they average five billion in fraud a year before they even start spending.
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Five billion.
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And that's 10%.
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So
they're already losing 10%.
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I'm sure they can find 3%.
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And so I I think I think as as the governor is saying that, really, in my mind, what he's saying is we all need to, you know, you know, be able to balance our checkbook.
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And so even these, even these agencies need to be able to make sure they're running as efficient as possible.
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Well, so my evaluation has because of I've done property tax, like the challenges and whatever, has gone down slightly.
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There's been some relief.
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So my property tax bill has gone down a little bit.
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I know there are a lot of people who are still in areas where they're just getting hit by crazy evaluations, or maybe their valuations really are going up.
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And like that's regardless of what a local government would want to do or has done, has really made those costs from the property tax go up even without a technical rate increase.
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What are the, you know, as a matter of experience, you were on the school board in Humble for 12 years, right?
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So like you have you have that experience on your side of kind of being on the on that local school district level.
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What are things school districts should be doing to lower that cost so that that those even they don't need those valuations to go up, but they're able to stay in budget?
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Well, you know, and the first thing the school district's gonna tell you is we don't do it.
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And you know all that comes from the appraisal districts.
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They do the appraisals, and so you know, I think that's one of the one of the things that the governor wants to do is to lock in and well, I'm gonna use the word freeze, but I don't mean freeze, though, but to actually lock in the appraisals for for a certain time.
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I want to say he said for three three or five years.
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So so that you're not going every year and going up 10% every year.
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And and so that's that's that's one way.
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Now with school districts, you know, and I was I was I was a volunteer for 12 years before I ever got on the school board.
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So it's total 24 years just kind of understanding because I never could figure out why do why do they always need money?
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Don't they have enough money?
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And so one of the things, as the governor is asking these other agencies to do, school districts need to start doing the same thing too.
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You know, some of the dollars, you know, I'll put it this way, are they are they are
they really giving you the return on your investment?
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And your investment is our future, the next generation are kids.
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Is money actually being spent in the classroom?
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You know, or are we spending it on the unnecessary things?
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And so once we can find find that balance, I I I think we'll be able to address it because if you look at some of the school, the biggest budgets for school district is personnel.
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80 to 85 percent of their budget is spent on personnel.
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On their ML budget.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it doesn't it doesn't leave much room for anything else.
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And so and so, yeah, M and O.
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I'm not talking about the INS, you know, and and we can get into the bonds later on that, but on that budget, there you you know, you just need to look at it.
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And so, you know, they've been spoiled for all these years because all they had to do was just come back and just ask, you know, or you know, we tend to hear all the time, we need more money.
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We need more money, you know.
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Well, more money is not the answer if I'm not getting the return on my investment.
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If my kids aren't, you know, the kids aren't, you know, achieving that level that we want them to achieve.
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One of the things that pops up as kind of a counter from the schools is that they have so many mandates, mostly from the feds, but a lot from state government too.
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What are some government mandates from the states that are requirements that you would get rid of so they could, you know, slum up their personnel and save some money on their personnel?
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Well, I I can I can I can I can say that, you know, as I was on the school board for 12 years, I I will believe some of that because some of that is is is mandate, and and most of the time you hear a school board say that it's unfunded.
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I I would say that it's not that it's unfunded, I will say that it's underfunded.
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And so that's that's that's that's some of the fallacy on on lawmakers' part.
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We're not properly funding these things, you know, these different programs, because you'll hear all the time we just need more programs.
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Well, that's not true either, you know, but we need to properly fund things, especially with schools, because we're talking about schools, we need to properly fund our safety.
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We need to properly fund our transportation allotment.
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And the shift that we're making now that school districts don't like is the fact that we used to just fund it and give it to them in the basic allotment.
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And that was just like an open cookie jar that they did whatever they wanted to do with it.
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And now we're targeting that money to the various allotments where it has to be used.
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And that's just going to be a way of the future now, as we kind of work together, you know, you know, for the good of the state, because we need to have an educated workforce.
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Without an educated workforce, we will fall behind as a state.
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How are you?
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I mean, you were so you were in the ISD world as a as a school board member, as a volunteer and as a school board member for a long time.
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You know, I you voted for the ES the ESAs.
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What are you seeing now?
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And now that the program's starting to roll out, are you hearing from your constituents that they got into the ESA and they're loving it?
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Like, what is the kind of feedback you're hearing from folks who I'm sure were both for it and against it about how it's how the rollout is impacting uh your area, your district?
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You know, well, really, and I don't think the ESA is really impacting District 127.
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And I say that to just give me, give you some numbers, particularly for Umbo ISD, you know, where I, you know, the district I live in.
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Excuse me.
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The district has now, at one time it was considered fast growth because we were growing like wildfires.
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The district has probably 48,000 kids in Umbo ISD.
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But actual kids that live in Umball ISD is 66,000.
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And so there's almost 20,000 kids that are either in private school or charter schools.
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We even got an online school, iSchool, and we've got homeschool.
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We are, District 127, the second largest in the state for kids being homeschooled.
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So, you know, I, you know, I just, I just, you know, you know, my responsibility was to make sure that we gave, that we stay committed to public education and that we uh continue to increase funding and give educational options to all parents.
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How would you say that having those educational opportunities and that choice in your area impacted the decisions and the guidance you gave when you were on the school board?
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It kind of opened my eyes because, you know, once again, I was a school board member, so you know, your responsibility was to, you know, do the best you can for your school
district and and provide.
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Once I became a state rep, I had to take in consideration the other parents.
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Parents who, you know, were in charter schools for whatever reason, parents who were in private school, and and and and and parents who are at homeschooled.
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I've just recently really gotten involved with uh we got a charter, or not a charter.
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School, but a school here in homeschool called Classical Conversations.
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Visited with them.
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They're doing the remarkable work.
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And even in my own family, we balanced between public and Christian school.
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And so even my daughter recently just had our granddaughter graduate from humble Christian school, but a little brother is going to public school, humble middle school.
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And so, you know, there's a balance.
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I mean, every parent, you know, we would hope knows what's the best education for their child.
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My job as a state rep now is to make sure that we're providing those options for those parents.
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
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I think that there's having that choice.
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And I guess my the thing I was really trying to get to was like it makes the school districts better, in my view.
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Like it makes them compete, like makes them make sure they have the right programs, that they have more magnets, that they're doing more for GT students and SPED students and everything else, because those parents may go elsewhere.
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And so that that those monies follow the kids to other schools, you know, it put kind of puts them in a position where they need to do more.
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And I think that's the whole point is to create competition for those schools where they're not just kind of lazy or stuck in without much of a motivation to do better.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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So I mean that I'm I'm glad you really touched on that.
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Yeah, we could go on at length about that.
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What are the biggest issues facing District 127 that we haven't covered?
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Stuff that may be, maybe it's stuff that's impacting statewide stuff, you know, big statewide issue, but what are some local issues that you're really kind of hearing a lot more about that you don't think other people may be hearing about?
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Well, you know, being down on the Gulf Coast, I mean, right now, you know, you know, every time it rains, we get nervous.
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And so flooding, flooding, flooding, flooding is is is an issue.
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And, you know, we're we, I say we because it's just not me.
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It's uh a lot of folks, constituents here.
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You know, Bob Rehag, Bill McCabe, Chris Block.
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I mean, all these guys are are way smarter than me, and they know, they know, they know, they know how water travels.
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I mean, but we, you know, we're we're trying to we we can never control Mother Nature, but we can work with her.
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And so, you know, that was one of the first things I did when I got there.
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I tried to pass the dredging bill.
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And Bill, uh, unfortunately, in your first year, like I said, you know, you're a freshman, so just you know, sit there and be a part of the furniture, you know, and and kind of learn.
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But I, you know, but I learned, and you know, we, you know, and it's all about relationships.
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And so we came back, we came back the second session and was able to, you know, work with some of our issues and was able to get the bill passed.
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Now, of course, you know, that even took some some hurdles too, because we've got our our dam, our lake down here that has a dam.
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The dam was built in 1953.
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We need a new dam.
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So is that is that run by the Army Corps engineers?
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Uh this one is actually it's it's owned by the city and it's run by the uh Coastal Water Authority.
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So they they run it, and I I think in in your area out there where you're at, Fort Ben area, where there's the North Houston Water Authority uh folks too.
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And so, you know, really uh in in in in in the initial all all these folks are trying to kill the bill, all right?
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Because they felt that the bill was going to be another tax bill, raise taxes, and you know, another layer, layer of government, you know, and I get all of that.
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You know, however, that was not the you know the intent of the bill.
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The bill, when you look at our lake, Lake Houston, it's a gold mine.
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It has all kinds of sand.
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I don't have all the different sands that they have in there to buy products.
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This stuff can be sold.
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You know, early on, I had already worked on some partnerships, and hopefully, we we just now got the board the board in place, the dredging board.
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The city of Houston finally named their four people, the county named their their personnel, boards in place.
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--> 00:26:28.640
I swore them in office probably about three weeks ago.
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But prior to that, there were already people wanting to be able to partner with us.
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The sand miners that sandmined along the along the river were wanting to be a partner.
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Dr.
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Don Buckingham, GLO, wanted to be a partner.
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She wanted the sand for the Ike dike.
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And so, you know, we've got we've got we've got uh partnerships waiting to happen where this lake hopefully will be able to uh fund itself to the extent where we can maintain our reasonable depth by dredging uh in the in the lake.
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And so when we and you you mentioned earlier about the release of the foot of the water, and so when we release, you know, when we do our proper releases, then we're not wasting water.
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We're we're releasing and having water because you know, you know, Texas has got a water crisis on its hand also.
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So, you know, you know, all that comes into play.
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But with the money that's that was available for it, you know, the board is in the process now of setting up its uh SOP, uh standard operating procedures, how they're gonna operate, where they're gonna put their money at, where's the money coming from?
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There was 25 million set aside.
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Well, let's put it this way, 25 million, really 50 million, 25 of that.
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We hope the city hasn't spent it all, but if they have, we're gonna still be able to fund it because we've got partnerships not only at the at the county level, we got partnerships at the state level still, and we have uh partnerships at the federal level.
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One thing I want to make sure we're clarifying for folks a dredging district just make sure I understand it, and you can correct me where I'm wrong or confirm I'm correct.
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Basically, Lake Houston is at the Lake Houston is has the San Jacinta River, but does it have the Trinity in it too?
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Like it flows into it?
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It takes water from the Trinity also.
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Yeah.
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So the so it has these two major river networks that go into it.
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And so, like, this is water that's coming all the way from up in the Dallas area down to Houston, and it ends up being like the major water supply line for the Houston area.
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Even Fort Bend County, there are areas that are fed by our this massive new pipeline they've built from the lake for the North Fort Bend water district.
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That's a whole other can of worms.
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But
the so what you're saying is they're dredging it, which is this to say taking the silt and the stuff that's taken taken downstream and that's building up in the lake when it comes with the water as it's settled out so that there's still more room for water and it doesn't just fill in.
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I mean, you're saying that this the sands and the stuff that they're pulling out have a bunch of rare earth and other things that can be used to like to sell so that you can like sell that sand to make pay for the lake, basically.
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Is that why you've created or helped create this dredging district?
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That's correct.
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Okay.
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What how did you I mean, does this were you hearing about this from people in your area?
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Was this something you were passionate about because you're working at Center Point?
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How did you figure out that this was a major issue for your area and that you had this kind of common sense way to like have this infrastructure pay for itself?
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Well, it a combination of things.
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You know, my predecessor Dan Huberty tried to pass the bill, but he he couldn't pass it.
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I think he tried twice, but he had he had the uh the taxing entity on it, and nobody was you know had appetite for a new taxing bill.
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Uh and then of course, yeah, the old mayor of Umbold, uh Donnie McManus, plenty of history there, he's like 80-something years old.
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Anyway, he shared with me about you know the byproducts that was that was that was uh you know in the lake.
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And then I was able to get a whole of a of a report that was done by Freeze and Nichols basically outlining everything that was you know in the lake, sediment, things of this nature and stuff.
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And so working, as I said earlier, with some of the uh Kingwood vocals, Bob Rehack, Bill McCabe was very involved with uh you know, hydrologist, Chris Block, engineer, you know, we all just kind of sat down and said, what is going to be beneficial for our area because we can't stand to have another flood.
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You know, if we do, HEB had already said, you know, we're pulling out, we're not gonna do it.
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And so we we couldn't we couldn't stand for our livable before us to all of a sudden be a dead for us.
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And so, yeah, it was just coming together with other people, Garrett.
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Absolutely.
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Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
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Where can people find more information about you and you know, follow up with your flood work, your education work, all the stuff you're
hearing me doing going forward?
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You know, you know, go, I guess, to the uh uh Texas Online.
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:16.559
You can Texas Legislature Online, yeah, T L T L O and really reach out to my office.
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I I do a I do a monthly newsletter, electronic newsletter, and then of course you can always go go to my uh website, you know, and that's Charles Cunningham, I think, Texas.com, you know, www.
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Look me up.
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I'm you know, I'm I'm on I'm online, and you know, give us a call, reach out, let us know what's going on.
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You know, we got we got we got an election coming up.
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We're trying to keep Texas red.
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So I'm glad that I was able to be on C in Red.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, thank you so much for joining us today.
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And uh and thank you for all the work you've done to you know make Houston a little bit a little bit better.
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And you know, get I hope you got your your uh your wall fixed from the car driving into it.
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Did they did they let you keep the car?
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Or I guess it probably had to go back to its original owner.
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Yeah, original owner, he was like he was like he was like two blocks around from me, you know.
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So yeah, he he got his car back, and and of course, you know, everybody made fun of me for for the time that was getting prepared because they thought I thought I had a drive-through dying dying with you know coming in.
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:25.440
But uh, but no, I I I do appreciate you reaching out, Garrett, giving me this opportunity just to share with the with your audience.
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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Thank you.
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Have a good have a good session.
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You too, sir.
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Thank you to Representative Cunningham for coming on the show.
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It was a lot of interesting information, and I hope that you're able to take away that being a state representative isn't all about doing the sexy stuff, right?
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It's not about these big issues that are in the news.
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There's a lot of bills that have to get passed for specific areas all over, and that it really matters who you have in your local office to make sure that the stuff that your community needs gets through the process.
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.960
But all that and more, we're gonna jump right into the kind of stuff that's popping off right now.
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I might be wearing red, but I'm bleeding burn orange.
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I'm a UT alum, love the UT football team, was a was on pins and needles throughout that incredible game over the weekend that seems to have captivated this any sports fan's imagination.
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.559
Like it was just one of the craziest comebacks in college football history.
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.119
Like it's a top 50 game all time.
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:30.640
Like it's a it was a very good game.
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It's one of those games like you never you watch football, you watch sports just so you get the opportunity to watch one of those games happen live.
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.519
And it's it was a great game.
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:49.519
Our esteemed railroad commissioner candidate, that's Bo French, tweeted out the show a couple weeks ago because one of the college kids said that they'd vote for him for president in 2028.
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.000
Now they share a same name, and that was what the kid said.
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:56.640
But, you know, fun little clip to kind of get sent around.
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He decided to post a quick screen grab of the crowd.
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One screen grab of the crowd, because there are lots, but there was one that showed a small section of uh appear to be kids of South Indian descent or South Asian descent, whether they're Indian, Pakistani, but you know, South Indian descent, and talking about how it was an invasion has basically occurred.
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I'll I'll flash the tweet real fast or try to with this so you can properly engage with what what with what he said.
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This rightfully brought the scorn of speaker Burroughs, uh Governor Abbott, John Cornyn, Jared Patterson, friend of the show, talking about how like this wasn't appropriate.
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:47.840
This is you shouldn't be looking at someone's skin color and making any sort of judgment, and that and talking all all sorts of things.
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Let's be very, very clear.
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Bo French is an internet troll.
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He is he lives on Twitter.
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I rent on Twitter, he has five properties on Twitter, he is there all the time, he always has been.
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.840
This is the same man who Dan Patrick et al.
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:18.639
called on him to resign from his post as Tarrant County GOP because of similar comments when he compared when he did a poll of who has caused more problems for America, Jews or Muslims, right?
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This is the guy, this is this guy.
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He is an internet troll.
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.239
And you shouldn't feed the trolls.
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:30.000
But when you're in an election, sometimes you have to run against them, bash the trolls, and highlight it.
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.880
I don't know what Bo French's
strategy is here.
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:34.559
I don't think there is a strategy.
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I think he's a troll.
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I think he genuinely believes what he's posting, and that makes him a racist troll.
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Nevertheless, he is a troll.
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Will I be voting for him?
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No.
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I don't think anyone should.
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But that's your own prerogative.
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He is an internet troll.
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He is not a serious candidate, and he never has been, and he never will be.
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If he gets into office, he'll still troll.
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He is a troll.
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I mean, what do you don't answer his riddles?
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Just go over a different bridge.
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You know, like he is that's all he is.
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And, you know, like he's his comments should be taken seriously.
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They should be condemned.
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But we don't need to be holier than thou about it.
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We just need to call the spade a spade, call a troll a troll, and just recognize that there is a particular type of like malignance behind what he's doing, and he's just in it for the clicks and in it for the notoriety.
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.159
He does not care how he gets attention, he just wants the attention.
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Here's more of it.
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But we're in a political campaign, we're 60 days away from the election.
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Like we we kind of have to talk about it.
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And he knows that, and that's why he's feeding into it.
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Because again, Bo French is a troll.
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So that's where that's landing.
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But the what's what's damaging for Republicans is in the attempt to like bring Ken Paxton and John Cornyn voters back together, there's been a whole talk about unity, unity, unity, unity.
00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:04.639
The elephant in the room, so to speak, has been that Bo French is in a loose canon and is a troll who's gonna go do something crazy like this.
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So, now how do you, at the top of the ticket or on the ticket, while you're still trying to mend together these fences of this, like the brutal primaries that took place?
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How do you pitch to your voters and to Corny voters and to Chip Roy voters, etc., the you know, the candidates that lost their primaries?
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How do you pitch to these people, hey, we're a unified party, whatever else, but except for that guy?
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.079
Like, what are the exceptions?
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And so Republicans are having a problem messaging this, and Democrats are pouncing.
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The Democrats pounce.
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Representative Rosenthal is running against Bo French, he's pouncing.
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:47.760
Jung Sal Rico is pouncing on his opponent, so call out Bo French more.
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You know, Bo French, if he wanted to win, should have just been quiet through the general election.
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:57.039
He should have just deleted his account, stayed off the beaten path.
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But he's this is like the second or third thing he's done.
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And he doesn't, he just wants attention.
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He doesn't care.
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He knows that he if he loses, he'll be the Republican that lost, and then he can still go tweet.
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And he'll doesn't matter because then people will just be in his comments, hey, didn't you lose your election?
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And he'll be like, it doesn't matter.
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Guess what?
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As Tarant Kine GOP uh chair, he decided to start endorsing in local elections.
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This has been a big push from some activists for a long time.
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Sincere activists who are really trying to like make a difference.
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He said, Yeah, let's do it, endorse the craziest people in the race and put his name behind them, and every single one of them lost.
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These were nonpartisan local races for like mayor, school board, etc.
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in Terran County.
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Every single competitive race lost.
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By competitive, I mean had an opponent.
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That's bad.
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Terran County is not a like a blue county.
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Ostensibly, it's red.
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And if there should be some pockets of red, regardless, in any large area.
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And if you're like really pushing something from the party perspective, you want to try to be putting your resources where races you can win.
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To go Ofer is a tremendous, like just like indictment on his ability to lead.
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And obviously, he's not a leader, he is a troll.
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And so you are in this problem with Bo French, where you have let him into the tent, you just tried to ignore him, and then he took a giant steaming turd, upper decker, on the whole party.
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So now we all have to deal with all that entails, and so that's where we're at with it.
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Still, President Trump and uh SLF, the SLF, which is like the main pack of the Senate
leadership out of out of DC, have invested tens of fifties of millions of dollars and have gone already paid to advertisers for a rollout campaign.
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You're starting to see ads on every football game all the time for Ken Paxton.
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I if you're in a like restaurant, you're gonna see like five ads in the background on the TVs running.
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If you're watching football, you're gonna see 12 a game.
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Like you're gonna see tons and tons of ads hitting, going after James Talarico and propping up Ken Paxton.
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We're gonna start to see if those start to close the gaps in the polling, which is starting to get like one to five points in Taler Rico's favor.
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That's a substantial amount of you know, a lead at Labor Day, but Paxton really hasn't spent that much money.
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Taler Rico has.
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And now Talarico spent a lot of his money and he has to re-raise that money.
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Now he's entirely possible he will.
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And frankly, from a strategic standpoint, it makes sense that he did what he did.
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He spent all the money so he could get to September and say, I've spent all this, here are my poll numbers.
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I need another 100, 200 million, whatever, to stay on air through the end of election day to try and hold on to this lead.
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And we'll see what happens, but like it's not the worst strategy, but he doesn't have a lot of money on hand right now.
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Paxton's on the inverse, he hasn't had a lot now, he's just blasting it.
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It's probably gonna work for Paxton.
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But there are drags on the ticket now beyond him.
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Like you have Bo French, that's a problem.
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And Bo French is doing things where people know his name.
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Again, Bo French should have just showed up after he won the primary and not said anything because then there would have been new news for to like start some sort of controversy and bring him in.
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Because at that at this point, he's just what who is he bringing into the party?
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Who is he bringing out to vote?
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You're just turning people on to vote against you or to split ticket against you or to not vote.
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To undervote is what they call it.
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If you skip a race, it's entirely possible if the race is close enough at the Senate that Bo French underperforms Ken Paxton.
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And depending on how close the race is at the top at the top of the ticket, if Paxton were to win, you'd have
Paxton winning and Bo French losing.
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I've had several text messages from people in politics, out of politics, like being like, who the hell is this Bo French?
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.480
Or not the people out of politics, like, who is this Bo French guy?
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What the hell is he doing?
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People in politics are saying, like, dude couldn't keep his mouth shut.
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He doesn't want to keep his mouth shut.
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Again, he's a troll.
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He just wants the attention.
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This is a his I mean that's all he wants.
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He just wants attention.
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And he doesn't mind if it's negative.
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So that's where we're at.
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That's the state of the race.
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A lot's going on.
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We're past Labor Day now.
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We are in it.
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We are going hard, going strong through the end of it.
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Get involved in your local races, call, text, knock doors, do what you can to keep your candidate's message out there.
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Like I've said in the past, a well-coordinated effort from a local candidate, some state house rep, state senate, and below, you can probably do 10% about 10 points better than the top of the ticket.
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And so if you're in a close race or in a close set district, you can outperform the top of the ticket by 10 points if you run a perfect race.
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You know, you probably would have had to do a lot of things by now, but if you are out there and you are trying to help find somebody, find people who are running good races in your area and try to get them across the finish line.
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:09.679
So a couple more inter a couple other interesting elements, things happening behind the scenes.
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There's a lot of controversy over the fact that Jim Jimmy Kimmel is not running an ad, or not an ad.
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Well, it is an ad for Jimmy Kim, for James Salarico on his show.
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There are some very specific rules for broadcast TV.
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They, because it's public airwaves, literally the public owns the airwaves and they rent it back to the channel.
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So things that go over the antenna.
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And these different channels, then license stuff from ABC, the show, the whatever, and like basically those shows can't disproportionately advertise or seek to promote any candidate for federal office or even probably state office too, without giving equal airtime to the opponent.
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This has famously happened for 20 25 years.
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Where in like when Gary Coleman and Arnold Schwarzenegger, two celebrities, ran for uh California governor, they couldn't go on the late show like until they were or until onto late night shows, or they could only go into certain late night shows because they're running for California.
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They couldn't go on ones that were based in California, they would go on ones based in New York.
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It was weird stuff.
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This is not an uncommon situation.
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There's some just consternation now because so much stuff's online, no one really cares.
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There's so many more ways to get things out.
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It's not when these laws were passed 80 years ago, never the laws are there.
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And Jimmy Kimmel is just trying to stir up some stuff because, you know, of all the controversies that he had with Pat Trump earlier in the year.
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And so just trying to drive something here late in this game and basically run advertising and free media for Taler Rico.
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Well, who's surprised?
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That's kind of a low-key thing going behind the scenes.
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Something that kind of probably got missed.
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Galveston County has been leading some efforts to change how the Voting Rights Act and different redistricting and election things are really the law on the books and making sure and challenging those laws.
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They were successful in getting some stuff overturned on the Federal Voting Rights Act that's helped push the redistricting push and laid precedent for the redistricting push of earlier this year.
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But also they have been pushing some other stuff more on state law.
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One of the things they tried to do was they had a primary using certain voting precincts.
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And by voting precincts, I mean like county-level precincts for like JP, county commissioner, constable.
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And then they changed the lines after that primary happened.
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So that the people who voted in for precinct, let's say three or precinct four in Galveston County, then they their lines changed so that it was a different candidate, that they're not in that district anymore.
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The Supreme Court has knocked that decision down.
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It's going to revert back to what the pre-the- the other map was for this election.
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I think that's probably the right move.
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And historically, county judges or county commissioners' courts will change, if they're going to change districts, will do so in an odd year.
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:34.159
And it might be worthwhile to make that change like in code so that that they have, if they're going to make a change, it has to be in an odd year.
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But that's just something that's been percolating, and I'm sure they'll challenge it to the feds, but or they might try to challenge it to the feds, but it might be moot by the time it gets there.
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So we'll see.
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I'll keep an eye on it if it's anything changes.
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But that's just an interesting kind of quirk of things that are going behind the scenes here 60 days before an election.
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