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Well how come she's getting it and I'm not?
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And I started noticing that they presented themselves differently.
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They carried themselves differently.
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And I wasn't being the person that I really was.
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And so that didn't help me.
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It hurt me more.
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There is something to this confidence thing.
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It's more than just the clothes.
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It's something more than just styling.
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Lisa, welcome to the podcast.
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Well, thank you.
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Excited to be here.
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Yeah, I'm excited to chat with you and explore your knowledge a little bit.
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So I want to kind of start there.
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And if someone's listening to the podcast today and they're looking at they want to think about or start considering ways to kind of elevate their appearance.
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Well, first of all, they can elevate their appearance, but I always say it's more than the appearance.
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It's really about their actual persona, their actual image that they want to elevate, because that's what will transcend to their actual image.
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So I always tell them think about um how they carry themselves, think about how they're speaking, think about eye contact, handshaking, think about um breathing.
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I was telling somebody earlier, always take a deep breath.
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Take a deep breath, breathe in, breathe out.
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That tells our mind and our body to relax and it's okay.
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And depending on what that situation is going to be, make sure you're prepared because preparation is everything.
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And a lot of times if it's just about you or just introducing yourself, nobody knows you better than you do.
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And if your parents do, maybe they aren't around.
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Who knows?
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But yeah, nobody knows you better than you, and they can't correct you or anything.
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So just know that you're the professional and you're the one who knows you best.
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Yeah.
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And carry that care carry yourself with that knowledge.
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Yep.
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Love that.
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How did you get into kind of this space?
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So your business LMG consultants, image consultants.
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How did you how did you get into this?
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And what made you
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want to start this career?
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It comes from almost way back.
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I used to always have a desire.
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I loved clothes from a child.
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I loved going to the into the clothing stores.
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I loved shopping and everything.
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We weren't of the income that we could afford that.
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I was a single mother was a single parent, divorced back when it wasn't something that they did is where it was wasn't popular.
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And um always wanted to be the best dressed person.
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But I didn't have, I wasn't naturally, still am not really naturally an outgoing person.
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I had a sister who was, but I wasn't.
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I was just always a pleasing person, doing whatever helped people feel comfortable.
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And so I would take that and internalize that in my clothing.
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I didn't want to outdress anyone, I just wanted to be dressed status quo.
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Anything that didn't draw attention to me, to keep attention off me so that I can keep everybody else happy.
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And as I grew up, as going through life, I that started following me everywhere.
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Followed me into high school, followed me into college, followed me into business, followed me when I moved to Florida, followed me into relationships.
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And what I started noticing when I was getting on the career path, because I actually used to be an accountant, believe it or not, I hated that career.
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But um, I was ready to move up.
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And I noticed people were moving up, and they may not have had the degrees and experience I did, but they were moving up.
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And I was starting to notice a pattern.
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Well, how come she's getting it and I'm not?
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And I started noticing that they presented themselves differently, they carried themselves differently, they spoke differently, they were perceived differently.
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Whereas I was perceived as someone who didn't want to talk, never asked questions because I was always afraid to ask questions because I didn't want people to look at me if I had the wrong answer.
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So um I just started noticing, you know what?
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I need to change that about me.
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Didn't know how to change that about me, but I knew it was something I needed to change.
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And that was really the start of my journey to wanting to learn more about being confident and about about presenting myself confidently.
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Because my mother always taught me from a child, she goes, fake it till you make it, fake it till you make it.
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And I never understood fake it till you make it.
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And when I faked it till I make it.
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And so that didn't help me.
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It hurt me more.
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And I continued to fake it and fake it and fake it until it was time to really show up.
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And that's when I said, you know what, there's something to this.
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And I had started learning about makeup, and I had started learning about skincare, started learning about clothes and jewelry, and I was selling for different companies and stuff, and my husband said, You need to take all that and just this needs to be your business.
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Because I would watch TV, I watch the news, and years ago, all the newscasters always had on that power blue suit, and they used to have a suit on and stuff, and I used to watch that and just be enamored, the pins and all that.
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And then I noticed as we got as we have grown as as um the pandemic happened and everything, yeah, dress started happening differently as well.
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People started showing up on TV differently as well.
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Like more casually?
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More casually as well.
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And I watch TV not necessarily to watch the content, but to watch how people are dressed.
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And I go I wonder who told her to put that on?
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What is this?
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Is there an image consultant that works there or something like that?
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And my husband said, You really need to do something like that so you can go and try to be their image consultant.
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Yada yada.
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And I would just hear it in the back of my mind.
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And with the pandemic coming, when that hit, that's when I said, I think I need to do this because we just never know what tomorrow's gonna hold.
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Yeah.
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That really brought it to life.
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And literally, I went downtown St.
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Pete with my massage therapist.
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She goes, Girl, we can we can get you an LLC.
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And we put together my LLC, sent in the paperwork.
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And I remember coming home and showing it to Zach.
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It's real.
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He goes, Okay, now then you need to work it like a business.
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And that's literally how it took off.
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Literally how it took off.
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Crazy.
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Yeah, how many businesses?
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I've talked to a lot of people, like how many businesses were born because of the pandemic, right?
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Because like that mindset of we only got, you know, how however long.
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We don't know.
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We don't know.
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So let's go.
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Yes, that's exactly it.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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So what changed with you, like once you started showing up, like we talked about before, like being an introvert, not wanting to outdress anybody, not wanting to make a statement, like what changed when you started dressing, uh, improving the way you dress and the way
you look and the way you show up?
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I started noticing, A, I would get um, I would get compliments.
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Everybody loves a compliment.
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Yeah.
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And I would notice I felt good about that compliment.
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But then in the back of my mind, I'm like, well, it's I'm not dressing to get the compliment.
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I'm dressing to really show the world who Lisa Griffin actually is.
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And the more that I would put together outfits that made me feel good about myself and that made me feel like this is who I want Lisa everyone to see when they see Lisa Griffin before Lisa Griffin opens her mouth.
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I'm like, you know, there's something to this, there is something to this confidence thing.
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It's more than just the clothes, it's something more than just styling.
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That confidence really helps enhance your style.
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It helps to enhance that image, it helps to enhance your career, helps to enhance where you're going in life.
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It's just so integral.
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It's an integral part in everything that we do.
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And it all starts with how we put ourselves together in the morning.
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And it's not necessarily that you have to be in a jacket and a suit and a tie and earrings.
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It's just what makes you feel and present the world to who Donnie really is, who Lisa really is.
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People always ask me, are you always dressed up?
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And no, I'm not.
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No, I'm not.
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But even when I go to the grocery store, and anyone, especially a woman, can relate to this.
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The day you decide you're gonna just run out to the store, that's when you see, and you don't do anything to yourself.
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That's when you see everybody and anybody, they see you, and you're like, why did I come looking like this?
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And so I always tell people to reflect back.
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You never know who you're gonna see, and you never know what that impression's gonna be, and you never know what that chance encounter is going to lead to.
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Businesses are made in a grocery store line, deals are made there.
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I mean, oh my gosh.
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So it's just important.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So the what so the confidence comes first before like you have to work on that?
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Like, what did you do to uh like work on your confidence so you could show up like the best version of yourself?
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Attend more conferences is conferences than you can think of.
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I love attending conferences anyway, especially when I can travel too.
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I do, I don't mind them, I love them.
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I absolutely love going.
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So attending conferences, okay, reading self-help books, um, coaches, coaching groups, one personal coaching, all of it.
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My husband has to this day, he just thinks I attend too much.
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And I don't attend as much as I did before.
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Because I think we were talking one time.
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I've learned all the knowledge.
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I think I can learn about that.
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Now it's time you can learn, you can learn, you can learn, but sooner or later you've got to do.
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You hear, you do, you hear, you do.
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Yeah.
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And that's what I just started.
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But that's how I that's literally how I encompassed and learned that from there.
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And good lord, we live in a what a media society, social society.
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You can Google Chat GTBT anything right now and get the answer to what you want.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Chat GPT, your own custom plan, like how to be more confident.
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Exactly.
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But then there always still comes in there, you gotta still put you in it, no matter what.
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People don't realize that piece.
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So yeah.
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How long of of you putting in the work of working on yourself to be more confident?
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How long did it take before you noticed anything different in yourself or in the reaction of others?
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Literally 12 to 13 years, literally.
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Yeah, literally.
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And it's it's something that never changes.
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It doesn't, it's always a lesson.
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You know, I always say, or I've heard this, um, education is never out for the pro, period.
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No matter what you're doing.
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Educate, there's always something to be learned.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it just never stops.
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I like that.
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Um, so you talked about like dressing for like how you want to feel seen and like what you want to get done that day, or what you want to
accomplish that day.
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Walk me through kind of like what that process looks like in in the morning or something.
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A lot of times it doesn't happen in the morning, it happens the night before.
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Yeah, and then sometimes days before when I know something I have coming up, or I know I know how I want to feel in a certain environment, whether it's on Zoom, whether it's face to face, whether it's just on a telephone call.
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I have found that when I look pull together, then I present pull together, no matter what type of information it is that I have to present.
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So whether it's some accounting information, whether it's having to whether I have to sit all day long, because that's the one thing I hate to do is sit all day long.
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But if I've got to sit all day long, then I want to be comfortable.
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I don't want to have to be shifting and pulling and everything.
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I don't want to have to be like, oh my God, it's so hot or I'm so cold.
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I want to make sure that I'm dressing accordingly.
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So I literally think about the things that I have coming up in a week almost.
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Wow.
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What I've got going on.
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I mean, I also sell clothing so I have tons of clothes.
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Yeah.
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So that tends to be a hindrance, but I know how I want to put things together to mix and match and then make it easier because I um well most time today I did good.
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I will sometimes just change what I have because if I put it on and I don't feel right, it comes off.
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Yeah.
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Because if I feel kind of off, we're changing clothes.
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Yeah.
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We're gonna change this.
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No, those shoes are better.
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I did change shoes twice.
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So yes, some things change almost always until it feels like, okay, yeah, we're good.
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So it's planning, it's being prepared.
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It literally is be it is literally being prepared and just it is planning.
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I rarely get up and just well, yeah, I do.
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I do get up and throw things on, but they still I have my closet so that I know all the black is here, the pink is here, the red is here, all the different colors.
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So when I need to pull it out, then I can pull it out.
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And so when I'm working with people with their closets, I teach them how to set them up that way.
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Okay.
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When I'm working with people on clothing, I teach them, we'll put together core wardrobes.
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I'm gonna send you all of these, and so you can just look at this and say, okay, yeah, I'm going with this outfit because I know this looks, you'll know everything that looks you.
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I know everything in my wardrobe works on my body.
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If it doesn't work on my body, it's got to go.
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Period.
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Then you don't make mistakes.
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Yeah, right.
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And you're more likely or not gonna feel comfortable and comfortable.
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Exactly, exactly.
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So it really isn't, it's all like you said, it's all planning.
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It really is planning.
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Sometimes it takes time to put that plan together, but once you've got it, then you're good.
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How much time are you spending planning?
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Like, let's see, let's let's say for the week, like how much on average for a week's worth of outfits.
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Oh, a week's worth of outfits, probably maybe an hour, maybe for it didn't take that long.
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Maybe an hour, maybe 45 minutes.
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Because you know, you learn what you're I'm not buying clothes every day, so I know what's in there.
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Okay.
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So I know what's going to go with.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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And then if I wear, this is the craziest thing.
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If I wear something and I go out and I thought it was perfect, and I see myself in a picture and I don't like how that looks, yeah, that won't get on my body again.
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I will not, it won't at least not even matter.
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Yeah, though, that's that's knowledge for me for the next time.
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So it makes it quicker the next time.
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Don't pull that out or give it away.
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Get it out.
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Get out of here.
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All right.
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So what about what about like the was it Steve Jobs at like black t-shirt, blue jeans every time?
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Like what are your thoughts on that approach?
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Oh God, why'd you ask me that?
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Oh gosh.
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So I yeah, and I know people like that.
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They they stick to one.
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Simple, simple, I know what I'm saying.
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It's quick, and they know that no matter what they pull out, it's gonna look good.
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And I I admire that.
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But images are formed just on that.
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So if it's just gonna be black, black can be seen as confidence, but black can be seen as uh death.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Or as heavy, depending, of course, on how you accessorize it.
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So it I'm not a proponent of sticking to the exact same color.
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I'm a proponent of deciding what looks best and makes you feel best, and those colors in that color family, sticking to those things, maybe you, and that that'll keep it simple as well as just sticking to that one color palette, meaning one color in the entire color palette.
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Or one t-shirt.
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Or just yeah, exactly.
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Or one t-shirt and ten of the same exact t-shirt, maybe ten different colors in that exact same t-shirt, but the same color for goodness sakes.
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I believe in having like I wear white, I love white, but white gets dirty, and white does not always stay like white.
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So a lot of times I buy two.
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If I love a top, I'm gonna buy two of those tops.
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Yeah.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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Two white tops.
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I've considered doing that where um like a collared shirt, just all white collared shirts, and then dressing it up with like a jacket or something.
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Exactly, exactly, exactly.
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Yeah.
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Okay, so what about we're in Florida?
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The temperature's hot, like we're finally cooling off a little bit.
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But this is something that I struggle with in with real estate and like how do I dress, how do I show up when it's 95 degrees out and you're sweating, even if you're in shorts and a t-shirt.
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If you are going, and this is really good, this is what I teach realtors all the time.
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I have found and I have heard that sometimes that showing that's gonna pop up, you never know when it's gonna pop up.
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Somebody can all of a sudden see you and you're like, well, darn, I gotta go show this house.
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Yeah.
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I got to, I can't miss it.
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But look at what I'm in.
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I'm in flip-flops and da-da-da-da right now.
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You can't do that right now.
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So I always teach, keep keep a box in the trunk of
quick change so that you show up professional.
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It doesn't mean you may put on a jacket.
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However, you may put on the tennis shoes as opposed to the flip-flops.
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You may put on the um instead of the track shorts, you may have on some longer shorts instead of those.
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Just some, but it's still Florida appropriate.
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It's hard here in Florida because we're such a casual, casual state.
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Yeah.
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But when you're in, and I like to say real estate because you are in an environment where you only get that first chance.
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That one house showing with that person you're meeting the first time is going to be the opinion that they make of you or they break of you.
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They decide yes or they say no, and how you appear in that one moment makes it all different.
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So think about the um the material, like I have on track pants, these track pants, but they're very lightweight track pants.
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Yeah.
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You see what I'm saying?
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So I'm not gonna put on the heavy track pants when it's as hot as it is outside.
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Yeah.
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We have different, different what we call whale of corduroy.
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A thinner corduroy works fine here in Florida all the way up to November almost.
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We can get away with it.
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But if it's a thicker one and you know you're gonna be sitting there sweating and literally visibly sweating, don't do it.
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Okay, don't do it.
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Don't do it.
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Yeah, it's hard, but in Florida, especially my realtors, keep a box of items in the car, in the trunk that is good to go.
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Yeah, make sure it's already pressed, felt folded the right way so that you can just whip that out if you need to.
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That's a good thing.
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Or change, change a car, just grab that box and change the car.
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Or have somebody meet you from home.
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Pull that, bring my box and drop it off and meet me there.
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Yeah.
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Got to, got to, got you.
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I like that.
00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:19.759
Um so you mentioned I want to kind of shift a little bit, and and you mentioned like kind of like one of the defining moments for you was like winning a speaking contest.
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Yep.
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What what was it about that that um that kind of changed your approach or changed your mindset?
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So first I had no idea that there was a contest.
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No clue.
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No clue somebody's gonna get this golden mic.
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Um, and I had contemplated initially not attending this event because I'm like, I don't need to go to yet another one.
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Oh my god, I it won't matter if I'm not there anyway.
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Nobody knows I just one less body and had no idea how many people were gonna be there.
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So I went and I had prepared for this, I had prepared and rehearsed what I was gonna say, and it was really pretty much about me.
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And I didn't there wasn't a po, it wasn't a podium, so I'm like, okay, so there's nothing to sit paper on, and I don't want to read from my cell phone because I don't want to have to keep doing like this.
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And so I said, you know what?
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I'm just gonna get up there.
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I I I know me.
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Like I just told you, I know me.
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Nobody knows me better than me, and I know what I what I present.
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I'm gonna get up there and present me and do that.
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And you only had, I think we had five minutes.
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Okay.
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And so it went well, it felt so good when I was finished.
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And then fast forward, they say, so what you all didn't know is we have somebody who doesn't even live here who's been listening to you and watching you.
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We're gonna award a golden mic.
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And you're like, what?
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And when she said my name, I was like, What?
00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:49.920
Yeah, it just really because it just really told me, Lisa, you know, you really can't do this.
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This is really something because it felt good when I was finished.
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It felt good while I was doing it.
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I was asked about nerves.
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I had nerves when I started, I still had those nerves going through, but they were the good nerves that were pumping me up and keeping me going and keeping me talking and giving the information that I'm passionate about, speaking from my heart.
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But for it to be well received and then shown in winning that among, I think it was like 20 of us who spoke.
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Oh wow.
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Yes, I was just like, What?
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I was just like, oh my god, I walked in my house that night with my I had I had the mic.
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I was showing this mic.
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He goes, What is that?
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I said, There's a golden mic.
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I won't he went, Oh my god, baby, I'm calling my daughters.
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Like, mommy.
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So, and it just it really just built it helped build my confidence.
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Was that your first public speaking?
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No, I've spoken about it before.
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Okay.
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Ironically, I was in oratorical contest growing up.
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I got a c I got a scholarship to college with an oratorical contest.
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But that was decades ago.
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Yeah.
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This was my first time competing like that, and really not knowing I was and I I guess it was better knowing that I wasn't competing.
00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:56.799
Yeah, yeah.
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Because it was like what?
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And it really, it really was.
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It was really really solidified that I'm on the right path.
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That it's not just about me dressing people in clothing and being in their closet or showing them what to wear or taking them shopping.
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Because it is more than just about the clothes.
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:26.319
And when I can talk to the masses about that, then that brings that out and it really does solidify and talks about the professionalism.
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It just brings everything into one pretty package.
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Is that what you love about public speaking?
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Is that you can kind of package that all together?
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The versus the one-on-one.
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Yes, I can package it all together.
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Um, I'm working I'm working on my first book now.
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It's exciting and scary at the same time.
00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.559
But um it packages it all together.
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It allows me to be on that platform, but then be able to make myself available to people on a one-on-one basis as they are interested in working with me.
00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:00.240
Nerves when you're public speaking?
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:01.440
You said you had you have nerves.
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:01.680
Yeah.
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Still do?
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:03.519
Yeah, I still do.
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Yeah.
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I still have nerves sitting here talking to you.
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Come on.
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Yeah, you.
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I know, and I love you to death, but I still got nerves because it's gonna be seen.
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Yeah, I think so.
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The events that I've done, right?
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The Be on the Mic events, that's I've gotten better at that.
00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:23.279
But like the first one that I've talked with with Sharon about, it I was, I'm like, man, I don't think everyone's showing up.
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.359
Like all these things are going through your head, right?
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And um, but yeah, you get, I think the more you do it, like the better you get.
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:36.319
You still, like you said, you still feel nervous, still feel that, but you just uh you know that you can still do it.
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.599
And some things don't work out like you want them to work out, right?
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.559
But you just you use it as a lesson and you move on.
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:42.960
Yeah.
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Yeah, I like that.
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I like that.
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So interviews, like networking, you know, career changes.
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Who do you who do you think like needs to hear?
00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:56.079
Kind of like what do you have to say, what you have to teach?
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Oh god, networking, career changes most definitely, because I'm the queen of career changes.
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:03.279
Yeah, queen.
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:10.079
I started out in accounting, I've ended up with my own business, but I've done anything you can imagine in between.
00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:11.359
My goodness gracious.
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.920
The last time I actually sat down and counted it, I have had like 30 plus jobs.
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:16.640
Oh wow.
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.000
I know I can't look at you.
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.960
Yes, and if you tell my husband, he goes, No, you had more than that.
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:22.400
But I literally have.
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:23.759
I mean, oh my God.
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:28.240
Because I I don't I learned years ago I don't need to keep doing what I don't like doing.
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:29.920
So if I don't like it, then you do the next thing.
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:31.279
And I have always done that.
00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:31.839
I don't know.
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Is that is that is because you're like searching for this, like what you've started now.
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.440
You think I guess it's because I was searching, and I, you know, I was an accountant.
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:42.559
The only thing I liked about being an accountant was buying the suits.
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I loved dressing in the suits, loved it, loved it, loved it.
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By the time I got to work, I was like, oh God, we've got eight hours of this.
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:49.680
It was so boring.
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:53.599
Yeah, that that day was so boring, and I keep saying, why do we have to be bored?
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And one day my sister, my younger sister, she had told me, I'm in banking, but I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna go start teaching.
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I said, How do you just start teaching?
00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:01.920
You have a job.
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And she goes, Well, I don't have to do this for the rest of my life.
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.079
And she said that, and I thought, hmm.
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.359
But we come from parents.
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:09.200
My mother was at the post office forever.
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:13.680
Yeah, my dad was at General Motors forever, and you stay at the same job doing the same thing.
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.000
And that was when I'm like, Well, I guess I don't have to.
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.559
And I was blessed to have a husband who had a great job.
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.519
So, and he's just he did he just let me do it.
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.519
I'd be like, Don't call me there because I left at lunch.
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I'm not going back.
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And I did that, I don't know how many times anyone that's honest to goodness.
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:34.640
So, yeah, but it's that all all of that yeah helps make me what I am today.
00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:45.200
Yeah, and helps me know that when you're going through career changes, you gotta dress and be that image of that career that you actually want to be and really decide and decipher who do I want to be?
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:46.880
Because we it's no dress rehearsal.
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:47.920
We don't get dress rehearsal.
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This is one life.
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:49.839
Yeah, it's one stuff.
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:50.880
So make the most of it.
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:51.599
So make the most of it.
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.559
If it doesn't work, okay, now's the next for the let's move on to the next thing.
00:25:55.680 --> 00:26:01.200
Was there ever any ever any hesitation of like making a change or like once you just kind of got the hang of it?
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.279
It was it was it was always a hesitation.
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:04.400
I was always a little fearful.
00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:05.359
Is this the right thing?
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:07.440
Especially yeah, is this especially after starting?
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:08.240
Is this the right thing?
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.079
Oh god, I don't think this is the right thing.
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.000
But how long do I need to stay sooner or later?
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:13.920
I have to grow up and stay at one job.
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.000
I need to I'm married to a man who's been at one company 30 plus years.
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.119
He retired from there, started another company, and he's there for 15, and now he's getting ready to retire.
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.519
So, but then I'm the boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.000
And so I finally just came into Lisa.
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:30.960
This is you.
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:33.359
You can do this.
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:41.680
God put you, He makes no mistakes, and you listen to him and just know that you trust him and you're gonna walk in the way that he has for you.
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.680
And nothing bad is going to happen.
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.039
Some things that we don't like might happen, but those are lessons.
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:50.160
We take the lesson, we chuck the experience.
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.119
And that's what I do each step of the way, and that's what I'm doing right now.
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:57.680
But I really do feel and I know that this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:26:57.920 --> 00:26:59.359
Yeah, I mean you can hear it in your voice.
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:00.240
Like you love it.
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:02.079
I do, I I totally love it.
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:02.480
Yes.
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:10.160
That reminds me, um, so before I got into real estate, I read it kind of what what got me into real estate, but I read a book called Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:22.319
And so, like the the the poor dad mindset of you know, work your nine to five, you know, make a good salary, retire, and then the rich dad mindset of start a business, you know, that whole thing.
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:23.200
Exactly.
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:27.599
And I used to wonder what's wrong with me that I can't just want be at one place and get happy and just do that.
00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:29.279
Yeah, that's easier than what I'm doing.
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:32.640
I can just go, you just go in and they're gonna pay you, and then you leave.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.519
And then you're gonna get your 401k and you're gonna get this.
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:36.559
Just do that, Lisa.
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And I kept trying to tell myself that, but that just was not my way.
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It's good for anybody else if that's them.
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Sure.
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But everybody's not in the we're not in the same mode at all.
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Yeah.
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No, you got to do your own thing.
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I like it.
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:55.279
Um, so what are some practical tips for people who um to improve their wardrobe?
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Let's just talk about that.
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Like just improving their their wardrobe, whether it's just organizing a closet or shopping, people who don't enjoy, like myself, like I don't enjoy the whole shopping experience.
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.960
So, how can we make some steps to improve our wardrobe?
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.799
And you always look impeccable.
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You do like you do, even cat, you always do.
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I tell you that.
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I'm not lying.
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But um, almost what you did.
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Um, when you find what looks good on you, what feels good on you, what you feel good in, that style, there's a style to it.
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Mimic it in everything that you have.
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The same thing with colors.
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Go through your closet and find those five best outfits that you have that you wear over and over again.
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You wear them over and over again because they make you feel good.
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Yeah, you get compliments in them, you look good in them, you've seen yourself in pictures in them and like, yeah, this is it.
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.759
So those that those five things, that's your style.
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.440
That really is your natural style.
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You just have to determine if it fits right.
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If it fits, make sure anything that you have in that closet fits.
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If it doesn't fit, it needs to go.
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It just needs to go.
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Because when things don't fit right on us, we don't carry ourselves in the same way.
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We worry about and tug and pull and like, okay, I need to keep doing this because this is gonna lay right when it's like this.
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Oh, I need to get rid of it.
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:12.799
Yep.
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It's hard to do.
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People say, Well, I bought that.
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Or and if you've never worn it, if it's sitting there and it's never been worn, goodbye.
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Don't need it.
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It's just taking up space because the more we have all that space in our closet, it takes up space in our mind, and it confuses us when we go to put something on.
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And you gotta figure out what I'm gonna wear.
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:35.440
Oh my god, 10 things on the floor, and you're still going through stuff and you haven't figured out what to wear.
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.200
That's not that's that's not good.
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:38.880
Yeah, it's like clutter in the house.
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You gotta get rid of the clutter in the house, get rid of the clutter in your closet, because it gets rid of the clutter in your brain.
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:45.599
Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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I've probably the last couple years, the whole fit thing, I've kind of figured that out.
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And I was like, okay, I used to get my shirts tailored because I'm slimmer, right?
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So traditionally stuff doesn't fit me out, you know, from the store.
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But now I've kind of figured out like what fits and what feels good.
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And anytime I try something else on, I I know immediately.
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I'm like, this isn't gonna work, I'm not even gonna buy it.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:13.839
See, that's exactly it.
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I'm married to someone like that.
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.799
He my husband actually lost weight and he kept those clothes on.
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I'm like, the shirt is too big, exact.
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That's just too big.
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And it just took him forever.
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So when we were in Spain, we we shopped and we shopped just for him.
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And I he I was able to just shop for him and get the stuff.
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He goes, just get it, Lisa, just put it.
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And the other day I forgot the stuff we were wearing a couple weeks ago.
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He comes up, God, that looks good on you.
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He goes, We got it in Spain.
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I said, Right, see, it fits you, right?
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Amazing, hasn't it?
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And he just he of course he doesn't say I'm right, but yeah.
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Yeah, you were right, but I was right.
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I love it.
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Fit is everything, yeah.
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Everything men and women, no matter who.
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:50.720
Yeah.
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.359
I I think just confidence like going back to that.
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:54.319
Exactly.
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:58.319
Even if you think you don't care how you my husband thinks he doesn't care what anybody thinks about him.
00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.119
Yeah, you do.
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Yeah, we all really do.
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We think we don't care, but we do.
00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.480
That to me, that's the that's a cop out.
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You do care.
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It's a cut it this is an image constant society.
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It will be an image conscious society forever.
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We are a social media society.
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People faces are on the screen, they're on there for a reason.
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You care how you come across to people, no matter what.
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Period.
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.720
Yeah, probably more so now than ever before.
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:23.519
Uh-huh.
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Yes, yes, yes.
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.440
So organizing by organizing your closet by colors?
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Yes, that's huge.
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.599
Because then you can just go to the white shirts.
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:39.359
Now, if that white shirt isn't in there, then it's either dirty or you forgot you gave it away, or it's a dry cleaner, or something like that.
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:44.240
But when you know, when it's organized by colors, you can pull the colors together.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:55.680
Organized by organized by color, organized by st by tops, short sleeve, long sleeve, yes, shorts, skirts, pants.
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:56.240
Yes.
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:58.559
And then you go straight to that.
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Yeah.
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:05.759
And it's just it's just if you go in a grocery in a grocery store and you go in a clothing store, they have all the yes.
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That's exactly how you want your closet to be.
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:16.559
And it becomes a tool and not a stress or a s or a dumping source that you gotta go dig out treasures to figure out what to wear.
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.240
You can just go and pull them out.
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That's what I need to do.
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.359
No matter how big the closet is.
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I've got mine organized by just the type of shirt or you know, pants or whatever, but I need to do by color.
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.640
It cut by color, well, I promise you it'll change your life.
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You'll be like, oh my god, that's right.
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There's all my white.
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I can just go there, there's the one.
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Do I want the long sleeve, short sleeve?
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I mean, that's easy it makes it so much easier.
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:39.680
Yeah, I love that.
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:41.519
Well, how can people learn more?
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Um, one, I appreciate you being here.
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This has been fun chatting with you.
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:46.960
Yes, it's been fun chatting with you.
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:53.119
Um, how can people how can people learn more about you and and kind of what you're doing or how to get in touch with you?
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.039
And well, it's it's LMG Image Consulting.
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That's my website.
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That's my email.
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My email is Lisa at LMG Image Consulting.
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You can find me there in every way.
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On all social, it's LMG Image Consulting.
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Follow me there.
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.559
I do I do tons of stuff on social media.
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:11.680
Yeah, you give tips and stuff.
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:13.119
I give tips.
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I love doing it's fun.
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So yeah.
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Cool.
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:16.480
Well, thank you, Lisa.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.599
Well, thank you.