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Hello, and welcome to Happy Horror
Time. My name's Tim Murdoch and my
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name is Matt Emmert. Today's special
guest played Jeff in Friday the Thirteenth,
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Part two, the counselor in training
who arrived at Pakanak Lodge with his girlfriend
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Sondra, simply looking to play a
little Harmonica, explore camp blood and well
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to get laid. What he wasn't
expecting was Jason Voorhees to be such a
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buzzkill and drive a spear through both
him and Sondra right after doing the deed
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in one of the franchise's most memorable
double murders. Please welcome to the podcast,
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Bill Randolph. Hi Bill, how's
it going. Hey boll very good.
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Thank you so much for having me
on. Thank you for joining us.
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So, you know, we read
that you were born in Detroit but
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then and ended up going to high
school in California, So like, where
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did you spend the majority of your
childhood and were you always interested in acting?
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Well, it's interesting because my father, you know, worked for the
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government. He was a civil servant
and in nineteen sixty three, Charles da
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Gaul, who was the President of
France at the time or premier, I
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don't know what exactly, you know, they're called in France, and Charles
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de Gaull basically said, Okay,
you've had hundreds of thousands of American troops
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here since the end of World War
Two. It's forty years later, get
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the hell out of here. So
my father very interestingly, you know,
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because I was in fifth grade.
From fifth to tenth grade, I actually
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lived in Europe. I lived in
central France and southern Germany while my dad
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was negotiating these moves of hundreds of
thousands of troops and of course they didn't
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bring them back to America, but
they, you know, pretty much shipped
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everybody from France to Yeah, from
France to southern Germany and so yeah.
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I was born in Detroit, lived
in Europe for five years, and then
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went to high school from sophomore through
senior in Stockton, California, which is
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just a lovely place to live.
And then my first two years of college
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I went to PCPA, which was
in Santa Maria, California, And from
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there I
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transferred to Sunny Purchase,
which is in Purchase, New York,
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and finished college there and then moved
into the city from there and you know
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the rest is history, as they
say. So how did you discover or
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were you always interested in acting even
as you were moving all around the world.
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Did you high school plays like Oklahoma? Well, yeah, not Oklahoma
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specifically, but yes, a lot
of musical plays. Because it so happened
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that the high school director at you
know, my high school, Lincoln High
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School in Stockton, California, was
they didn't just do a senior play every
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year. They did play after play
after play after play. And the first
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play that I saw them do was
the Fantastics, and I just it was
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like, wow, this is cool, you know, because it was you
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know, my peers, you know, it was you know, so I
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thought, well, you know they
can do it. Hell I can.
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And in my history class, missus
Frolic I think her name was, one
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day said you know, hey,
this afternoon they're having auditions for George m
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who knows go audition. It might
change your life. Wow, your history
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teacher said that, yes, my
my high school, like like you know,
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world history or god knows what teaching, you know, she said that
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in class, and sure enough it
did. It changed my life and growing
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up were horror films on your radar? Was there one that had an impact
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on you whatsoever? Really? So
like nothing growing up there wasn't a horror
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movie or did you just like steer
clear of them. No, it was
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just that, you know, because
we lived in Europe from fifth grade to
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tenth grade, you know, we
weren't Number one, we didn't see American
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television and number two, I think
I did see West Side Story in a
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movie house in Paris, France.
But other than that, you know,
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we weren't really getting a lot of
the American influence. Yeah, wow,
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yeah, no, that makes sense, I guess. Yeah. Of course
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there were Jaws and the Exorcist in
Psycho. Was it all just like all
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over? It was well that you
know certainly, you know, I don't
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know Jaws was later. Yeah,
a lot of that stuff hadn't happened yet,
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you know. It was more like
Anthony Perkins in USO, in Psycho
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and that kind of stuff. Those
were around, And I do remember,
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you know, there were black and
white films that I did see on the
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American basis, but the films I
think at the most changed once a week,
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So it wasn't like there was a
barrage of stuff that we could go
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see Vincent Price. Yes, we
would go see Vincent Price and in you
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know, like I don't know what, but but you know, and but
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he was like kind of the most
horror person that that that we were expo.
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Yeah. Oh, I was gonna
say, because you know, we
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were talking about theater and before your
first movie we read that you did theater
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and we're even in a play on
Broadway. So what was that experience like
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And how does being on stage compare
to being on film for you? Well,
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you know, certainly, yeah,
stage is completely different in that,
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you know, you actually have to
be heard in the you know, in
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the in the back row. But
I was very lucky in the sense because
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I was doing this play called Broadway, I mean called Gemini on Broadway that
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Frank Cumin and Meg Simon, who
were who cast Friday the Thirteenth, Part
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two, you know, they had
seen me on stage, so I already
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had that introduction. And I forget, I can't remember. I actually met
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Nancy Allen and Brianda Palma in a
film that I did, which was filmed
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at Sarah Lawrence College, which is
Brianda Palmer's alma mater. There was a
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protege of Brianda Palma Mama, and
they were doing a film called The First
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Time, which they were doing up
there, and so I met the two
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of them and got cast in this, you know, small film just outside
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of New York City. And Louis
Dejamo, who was the casting director for
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Dressed to Kill, he just called
me up. He just said, listen,
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we're doing this, you know this
thing, Dressed to Kill. Do
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you want to do You want to
do it? You know, it's like,
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what are you crazy? Of course
I want to do it. Are
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you out of your mind? Yes? Yes, yes? When? Where?
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And how? That was? Well
that was our next question actually,
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because you know, even though obviously
you're most remembered in Horror for your role
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on Friday the thirty, Part two, your feature film debut was in that
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Brian De Palma film, Dressed to
Kill. Do you play the Cabby who
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drives Nancy Allen during this big chase
scene? So we were gonna ask how
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you got involved, but it sounds
like you just knew the right people.
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Well, yeah, I was very
lucky that Brian De Palma was and Nancy.
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Both Brian and Nancy were up at
you know, when they were casting
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this other film, and so I
kind of got to know them through that
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what was to work with? You
know, I was very lucky, you
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know, because he was married to
Nancy Allen at the time, and she's
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you know, I worked with her
exclusively on the film, and you know,
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it's kind of easy when you're working
with the wife. You know that
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that that you know, Brian treated
me very well. So, you know,
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in terms of an introduction to kind
of a gigantic film, that was
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could not have been better. And
of course, you know, my whole
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thing is at the end of the
scene with Nancy Allen, I say,
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well, you know, give she
says, give me a call. So
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you know I'm saying it Brian,
So okay, she says, give me
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a call. You know, where's
my next scene? Well, you know
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what's so funny, Bill is that
we wrote this down because we always watch
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the people's movies and you know,
think of funny questions. And my question
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was, yet you take her on
this ride. You say you're gonna take
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her out to dinner. She says, call me, but she leaves before
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you guys exchange numbers. So how
are you supposed to get in touch with
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her? Oh? Oh, details, Yeah, but that's true. It's
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like, where's your next scene?
Another funny thing about your scene. It's
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great because you know she's being followed
by well she thinks is the killer.
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But it's like this woman is dressed
up and you you know, open the
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car door right in front of her
and knocks her down. How was that
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filmed? I'm assuming you didn't really
knock anyone down with the car door?
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Was that a stunt person? Uh? No? In fact, the way
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essentially, And you know, I
don't think that Brian was happy with my
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reading, you know, because the
way that I said excuse me, you
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know, which was kind of because
you know, I saw it as being,
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you know, a comic moment,
so you know, I come out
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with this excuse you know, it's
like it's like it's like Steve, Steve
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Martin, excuse me, you know, you know, And I couldn't get
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that out of my head. And
he gave me take after take after take
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after take, and in retrospect,
I know he was just waiting begging me
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to say it somehow differently than Steve
Martin. That was that was prime time,
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Steve Martin time like that was it
was like and it also is kind
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of a comic moment because you like
knock her over, like the door knocks
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her down. Yes, but back
to your question in terms of that,
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No, I just would would open
the door, and I think it had
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like a sandbag so that it the
door wouldn't you know, swing all the
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way. But no, there was
nobody there that I was physically knocking over.
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That was actually a separate shot.
And actually, you know, that's
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an interesting question because when you think
of it, if you know, I
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have to look at that film again
to see when you know it turns out
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to be Michael Caine and drag.
But uh, you know when I knock
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this person over, am I in
the background, you know? Or physically?
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You know? How was that shot? Was? I? I well,
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because we just watch it and what
I remember. You you know,
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they have a good shot of you
looking at like the rear view mirror,
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you open the door, and then
it kind of looks like the shot is
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above her because she's just like face
down on the ground. Yeah. Yeah,
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so I don't remember if you are. I think maybe you don't get
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my reaction shot of actually maybe they
do. I can't remember, but I
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just thought it was a pretty funny
moment like I love Dressed to Kill,
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but I love Thirteenth Part too much
more. Yeah, but it's
just so
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funny because it's just such a great
movie to have your debut in, you
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know, it's just such a cult
classic Dressed to Kill. Is there a
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red carpet premiere for Dress to Kill
that you got to attend or a cast
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and Cruse Greening you would think so, but they be honest, I do
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not remember, you know, any
kind of a premiere thing, and it's
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very possible that it premiered in Los
Angeles. And so moving on to Fred
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Thirteenth Part two? What was the
audition process like for Jeff and did you
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audition for any other roles or was
it strictly for Jeff. It was strictly
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for Jeff, and I probably had
to do a preliminary audition with Meghan fran
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But then I fairly quickly was at
an audition with Steve Minor. Steve Miner
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was there who directed Try the Thirteenth
Part two, and I was paired up
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with a Sondra who was not Marta
Kober, who eventually got Sondra. And
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I think the reason why I got
the role was this this beautiful young actress
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was off the wall. She was
just bouncing from wall to wal to wall
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to I mean, she had so
much energy, and she was just so
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pert and cute, and I don't
remember anything else other than she had this
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just kind of huge energy that was
all over the place. This is the
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girl you were first paired up with. This is the girl I was first
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paired up with. Who did not
get the part. Oh Meg Ryan,
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Yeah right Ryan. You know,
let me tell you, you know,
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being naked in a bed for hours
with Meg r. Not that Marta was
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no you know, chopped liver,
but certainly this girl was absolutely you know.
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So I turned to Steve and I
said, are you kidding? While
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she was in the room. She
was in the room bouncing off the wall.
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What did Steve say? Steve laughed, The two of us laughed,
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and then we went on with it, you know, because he was basically
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trying to get an improv out of
us, which you know, I don't
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know how successful. The improv,
ever was apparently not for her, I
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guess, because she didn't get the
role. But you know the fact that
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Steve and I connected on the on
this very eccentric, excited young lady that
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that's why that's when I got the
role. I got the role right then
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when Steve and I connected, that's
a good bonding moment. Well, because
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I guess you understood that it was
like it sounds like she was playing like
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a caricature of the part. You
know, who knows? I you know,
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I cannot. I can't even claim
to think that I know what was
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going on in her head. Sometimes
actors make these crazy toys. It's like
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sometimes less is more. But I
think sometimes people at auditions think I need
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to show them like everything, show
ten times, even though it's just you
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know, counselor yeah or you know. And it's also just possible that she
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was very nervous. Yeah, that's
true. So you know, Lauren Marie
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Taylor, who we just recently had
on the show, told us that all
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the stars watched the original Friday the
Thirteenth movie together after being cast. Were
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you a part of this watch party? And what did you think of the
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first film? Well, you know, certainly, the thing is is that
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you know Kevin Bacon and essentially I
play as clone in part two. You
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know, all of these you know, young actors and actresses in New York
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City. We actually used to go
bowling, and I was doing Gemini at
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the time, and Kevin Bacon was
dating somebody in Gemini. So I knew
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Kevin through not only because he actually
in fact, and I can't remember his
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name, but the young guy that
played the lead and dressed to kill what
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was his name to you me,
Keith Gordon. Yeah, Keith Gordon.
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Keith Gordon and Kevin Bacon were doing
an off off Broadway play Downtown, which
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you know, you know, all
us young actors, we always went and
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saw anything that anybody was in.
But there was a great bowling alley on
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Amsterdam Avenue between seventy seventh and seventy
eighth Street or somewhere in that neighborhood,
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and it was like a slice out
of the Midwest. Ten Lanes could not
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have been more Midwest if you tried, and we would go there and go
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bowling. So I knew Kevin,
and I knew a lot of people,
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you know, Kira Sedgwick, Jennifer
Gray, you know, trying to think
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of all these people that would go
bowling. So yeah, I did know
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Kevin before I got the role.
Wait, and then Vin, when you
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got the role, did Kevin have
anything to say about being in a Friday
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the thirteenth film or not really really
like no comment. He had no comment.
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Well, the thing is this funny
because when I told him I was
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playing his clone in part two,
you know, his reaction was very nonplussed.
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Also, it was kind of like, you know, Okay, I
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hope everybody forgets that. It's so
interesting that later people embraced it, but
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at the time they're like, oh, guess what, Kevin, No one
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forgot it. Yeah. And not
only that, but I saw a commercial
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that he did recently where he's playing
three different people advertising a streaming channel where
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he's playing he's he's doing you know, he's doing his Footloose character. He's
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doing his you know what's the military
one. Yeah, you can't, you
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can't handle the truth. So he's
in uniform and he's and he's you know,
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in his you know, got the
earphones for Footloose and you know,
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kind of bouncing around, and he's
also sitting at the table. He did
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not have an arrow through his neck, but he did have an arrow sticking
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out through his chest, and so
he acknowledges the fact. And probably because
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all three movies were available on this
streaming network, so he acknowledges that yes
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it did exist, and yes I
was part of it and blah blah blah.
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But for the most part, yeah, he's pretty much, you know,
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kind of until now. I you
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it more now that he realizes,
Okay, it's not gonna go away.
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His daughter is now entering the horror
world with the smile. You know what's
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funny is that if he would go
to a convention, the lines would be
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out the door, and I feel
like he maybe at one time will I
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mean, Jamie Lee Curtis did a
horror convention, only one, but she
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did one John Carpenter's come, so
like, you know, it's just so
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funny it's possible. Yeah, so
maybe he will. I just think it's
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funny. You guys were friends and
then you at the part and you're playing
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basically like kind of a clone of
him. I didn't know if he gave
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you any advice, but I wanted
to ask you about so you get the
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role of Jeff. Was there anything
specific you wanted to bring to that role
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or where? Did you just see
it more as the type of thing where
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you could kind of have fun,
be yourself in that role. Well,
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you know, when I showed up
on set, I had, you know,
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black high top shoes. I had
all this stuff that I brought to
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and and the hat that I wore
in the film actually is the same hat
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that I wore and Dressed to Kill. Yes, yes, so I brought
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the hat. I brought some shoes. I brought these you know, ridiculous
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two socks that had you know,
these red stripes and all this stuff.
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I brought all this stuff that I
thought. And I also brought you know,
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kind of cigar, not cigar cigarette, tiparillo. I brought you know,
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some some uh you know odd,
you know thing to smoke. And
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he had immediately nixed everything, but
the hack h cut everything. Keep that
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hat. I love that now.
Now you know, who knows what?
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If the Cabby from Dressed to Kill
just happened to get a job at a
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summer camp, yeah, anything else, you know, I would have loved
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it if Nancy Ellen had showed up
at some point, right, And we
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heard that during filming, the cast
and crew stayed in cabins. Who did
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you stay within the cabins? Yeah? You had to room with cast members,
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right or other cast members? Yeah, I think we all had our
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own cabins convenient. Oh that's yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
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because there were a lot of like
counselor cabins and stuff like that. So
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I don't think that we actually had
to room with everybody. But literally the
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cabins were you know, ten feet
apart, and they were nice. There
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were nice cabins. And that was
the Boy Scout camp that was around the
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lake from the set camp, which
was different. Oh okay, the set
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camp was actually a much smaller operation. Uh so, you know, and
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of course you see
it all over
the screen, but you know, the
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Boy Scout Camp was probably twice as
big, and it also had you know,
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a tennis courts and that kind of
stuff, and so it was kind
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of like, you know, the
Boy Scout Camp where we stayed was an
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upgrade to what the set camp was. You know. I actually didn't know
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that until now. Every time we've
heard, you know, that everyone stayed
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in the cabins, I thought it
was the cabins you shot in. I
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didn't know it was a separate So
you go, okay, so you guys
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stayed in a separate camp that was
near the camp that was shot in.
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Did you know the one. I
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the filming one. Yeah, I
thought it was the film. Okay,
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thank you. Actually it was like, I don't know, like maybe a
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mile. I mean, you could
walk it if you wanted to. But
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for the most part, you know, they would pick pick us up and
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take us to the set. But
it literally was like if yeah, it
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was like a mile around the around
the lake. That's so fun. And
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Laura, so Lauren Retailor has mentioned
she's told the story that, you know,
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one night she was in her cabin
alone and I guess a bunch of
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her male co stars tried to scare
her and she ended up fainting. So
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I got to ask, were you
one of the culprits? And so what
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did you all do that made her
faint? Stu Cherno and I were you
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know the assholes you know at the
at the camp and in fact, and
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we did this not only to Lauren
Marie but also Kirsten. We actually and
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all we did because everybody had screens
on their on their windows. As we
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went to the back window screen and
scratched the screens. So no, I
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think that's hilarious actually, but like, wait, do you remember her fainting.
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Did you think like, oh shit, I think this we went too
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far? You killed her? Now
do you remember her fainting? Or did
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you guys just scratch and leave?
We scratched and left scratched. The old
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scrub was that if she did faint, that meant that she wasn't screaming,
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So it was like, okay,
she probably didn't even hear it. Let's
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get out of here. So after
the night shots, did you guys like
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go out and party and do stuff
like that or yeah. Well, because
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the thing was is that essentially the
big meal of the day was breakfast.
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So everybody would show up, you
know at the cafeteria, you know,
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which was a big kind of mess
hall at the boy Scout camp and have
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breakfast. And one of the things
that we would do is that people started
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to bring well, okay, you
know, this is a southern mash that
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you can't get anywhere except for my
hometown. So everybody was bringing whatever they
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could in terms of libations, so
that you know, breakfast was not you
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know, his breakfast, but it
was like dinner, and everybody was you
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know, anybody who wanted to could
get you know, as stupid as they
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wanted to. So basically we didn't
go out a party, but you drank
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with breakfast absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was our party spot.
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You know. It was like,
you know, because the camp itself
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was not close to town, to
any town, you know, Blairstown,
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certain, No, not Blairstown.
It wasn't Blairstown at all, but it
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was you know, New York,
Connecticut. There was There really was no
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close close town. But probably the
closest thing was where we filmed, you
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know, running up the street and
going around to you know, running around
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to Ted's place. But you know, I didn't have a car. I
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didn't own a car because they took
truck truck, yes, exactly, you
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know, my truck was long gone. Besides oh and there's a great story
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about the truck too, in the
sense that you know, when we come
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around the corner and we drive up
there, they they had the set and
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all the crew and everybody was around
the corner as you look down the mountain.
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We were to the right and we
make a left turn onto the main
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road. But around on the other
side the truck that they originally wanted to
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use, they brought on a flatbed
and it was I mean, it was
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twice the size of the truck that
we used, but it was on a
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flatbed and they couldn't get it started. They could not get it off the
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flatbed. And the truck that we
used was somebody who was a local just
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driving by and was saying, oh, look at that big truck. You
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know, I think my truck is
big. That truck's really big, and
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they, you know, ran after
I don't know whether they ran after him,
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but they, you know, you
know, quickly threw a body in
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front of the truck so he would
stop and unnegotiated with him right there,
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you know, can we use your
truck? Well, you guys been a
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lost a day of filming, Yeah, that's all. Yeah, And I'm
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sure they offered him some money,
so like or a meal. He probably
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made more money than any of us, Like, hey, can we use
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your truck? We know what's making
scale. Well, you know what's funny
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is they we were gonna your first
scene. In your first scene, the
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iconic crazy Ralph character comes up to
you and Marta Kober, who plays your
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girlfriend Sondra, and gives you the
class like you're all doomed line. You
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know. Unfortunately, Walt Gorney,
who played Crazy Ralph, passed away in
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two thousand and four, But do
you have any memories of working with him
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or filming that scene. He was
the ultimate professional. It's just you know,
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the rest of us, you know, we're you know, you know,
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we were all kind of loose and
happy and whatever. But he just
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was. He would show up in
character with his lines, ready to go
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show me, you know, show
me my marks. He'd hit the marks
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and it would be done and over. So even though now that I see
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in like photographs that people have taken
and whatever, then he was, you
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know, kind of around the set
more than I remember, because I only
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remember dealing with him during our shots. And even though they're is physical evidence
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that that's not true. But he
was. He was just he was an
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inspiration. He really was cool,
you know, he just he just was
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Ralph. He was there. It
was really really fun, such a memorable
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character, you know, and it's
just it was so great, so genius
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that they brought him into the sequel, Like, you know, nobody listened
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the last time. I'm going to
tell some other kids who won't listen.
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Absolutely, and I think that probably
during the you know, the first film
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that he got such you know,
great numbers, and that people liked him
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and remembered him so much that it
was it was no brainer to bring him
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back. Yeah, I mean he's
always around, yeah, you know.
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And then of course there's your incredibly
memorable death scene when you and poor Sondra
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are made into a human shish kebab
by Jason right after having sex. So
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before we talk of because we're gonna
ask you about some of the legitimates in
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the effect. Instead of saying shish
kabob, what I say is fu sabob.
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Oh my god, I love that. Okay, a function bob that
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is hilarious and very on brand for
me. Tim is gonna blush. I
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mean I remember when I tried to
get the video as a kid, but
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like your picture is on the on
the back of the box with like the
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spear going through, so you know, like I was like, my parents
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are never gonna like I literally have
to do so much like finagling to get
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the fun onto the counter without my
parents flipping it over, and then they
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cut all of that. Yeah,
So this is what I wanted to ask
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you first thing before we get into
logistics. Something I'm hoping you can clear
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up for us. They're all these
rumors online. You know, people are
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always posting stuff about how a much
more explicit sex scene was filmed between you
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and Marta and she did full frontal
nudity, but then it was all cut
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by the studio. Is that true? And then also to be equal,
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do they at least require you to
be naked during that scene? Two?
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I do not. You know,
certainly, it's very possible that film exists.
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I'm not sure that anybody has that
in terms of MARTA's naked breasts because
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at the time we were filming,
she was sixteen years old. Wow,
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that's problematic. Yeah, that's you
know, nowadays it would never happen,
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of course. Yeah, but you
know, and I was twenty six,
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you know, so you know,
who knows, you know, in retrospect,
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that could be you know, arrested
for statutory
ring. But so I'm
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not sure just in terms of that. For the most part, you know,
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yeah, the crew was very,
very respectful, and there was only
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a you know, a skeleton crew
in the room when we were filming.
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But talk about skin on skin,
you know, I was a very happy
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cowboy. So you're both like fully
naked on top of each other during the
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scene. No, like what do
they call privacy cloths or anything. No,
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Oh my gosh, I would be
like, I'm thank you so much.
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I have to go. You know. At the time, it was
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you know, I don't know,
yeah, you know, just in terms
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of doing the scenes and actually doing
the whole movie, it was all done,
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you know, because everything was done
with either one or two takes.
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There was not a lot of there
was no wasted time. So essentially it
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was the kind of thing of where
we would do a rehearsal and mainly the
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rehearsals were for the camera because it
was for the camera moves, and there
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were a lot of dollies and things
like that, and it was a dolly
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shot from the bottom of the bed
up towards the top of the bed,
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and so I'm sure that we probably, you know, probably they just said,
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okay, let's get started, and
you know, the two of us
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disrobed, got under the covers and
didn't think anything about it. After that,
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the spear effects come into play,
like because obviously, like you guys
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are there and then there's this Jason
comes in and so like puts a spear
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00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.640
through your back, which wasn't your
back. But how did they film that
412
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.960
whole effect? Like how many days
did this take? That was separate the
413
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:29.720
actual spear and Carl Fullerton was the
uh, you know, was the special
414
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.119
effects on that. And I,
you know, they essentially made a mold
415
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.880
of my back, you know,
from kind of mid buttocks up to my
416
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:45.759
shoulders, and that took the longest
time in terms of attaching that latex to
417
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.240
my shoulders, so you could not
see any scenes. So you know,
418
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.920
when I moved this way or moved
that way or whatever, all of a
419
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.720
sudden it didn't wrinkle in a funny
way. And we did two takes.
420
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:07.720
Each take took four hours, and
there was you know, certainly a receptacle
421
00:34:07.159 --> 00:34:13.719
and you know, like a plaster
Paris kind of thing where the spear could
422
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:21.679
go into and the tubes with the
blood could come out. So and essentially,
423
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.199
once it was in place and they
could see that it was seamless,
424
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.280
and I moved my head maybe once
or twice or something so that they could
425
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:37.719
see that I was still a human
being there that you know, Carl Fullaton
426
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:45.360
was standing off frame and just plunged
it into my back where it was supposed
427
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.920
to go, and then the blood
would you know, there were other guys
428
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.840
on the floor pumping blood. And
once they got it, you know,
429
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.239
once that was done, then it
was like, okay, we got to
430
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.480
clean up. We're going to do
it one more time. Wow. So
431
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:07.840
it was four hours to get to
that point of the you know, maybe
432
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:15.639
at most ten seconds of frame time, and then they would clean it all
433
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.440
up, get it all set up
again, and another ten seconds where they
434
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.480
plunged it in again, all while
you and Martha had to just be sitting
435
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.519
there. Marta was not there,
oh, Martin. Marta came in at
436
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.360
the very last because the bed had
a hole in it. Marta came just
437
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:37.960
before they started to shoot, you
know, and this is after I'm there
438
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:46.239
for four hours. She literally kind
of slid underneath me so that it looked
439
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.039
like she was lying in bed,
but essentially, you know, she was
440
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.159
just she was just you know,
just basically you know, just her head
441
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.679
and shoulders, so that it looked
like she was underneath me. And the
442
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:07.239
way that the you know, the
effect was on me, it looked like
443
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.400
somebody was under me, but she
wasn't. She came in and actually was
444
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:15.360
you know, sitting sitting normally like
like you normally sit and just kind of
445
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.360
got into place and went like this, Like what you can't see is that
446
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.079
like he's laying down just with his
head like leaning back. So, you
447
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.480
know, a funny thing is in
the Crystal Lake Memories documentary, you mentioned
448
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.239
that while you were waiting to film
your death scene, the sound guy came
449
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:36.440
up and blew some sort of powder
into your mouth, which I guess made
450
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.559
you high. Can you tell us
about like what was this powder? And
451
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:43.480
were you okay to keep filming?
Well, you know, the thing was
452
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.559
is that it wasn't It had to
have been some kind of a relaxer kind
453
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:51.000
of thing, you know, And
to this day, I don't know what
454
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.719
it was. But all I know
is that it was like, you know,
455
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:59.519
oh God, are we you know, are we going to finish this?
456
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:00.360
Are we gonna? And I was
like, what's going on? What's
457
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.519
taking down now? And then you
know, he kind of came over and
458
00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.000
you know, my head was this
way on the bed, you know,
459
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.800
so he just came over to my
basically, you know, just to me
460
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.800
right there, and he said open
your mouth and I just went like this
461
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:20.679
and he and it was like ten
minutes later, waw okay I want to
462
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.000
know what this power is when he
acting, the only thing I had to
463
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:28.159
do was getting a spear through the
back, So you know, it was
464
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.079
like it didn't matter that I was, you know, like well, and
465
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.239
I don't think you ever saw my
eyes in that shot never, you know,
466
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.079
It's like I, you know,
I could have you know, been
467
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.400
completely dilated and nobody would have ever
known. But it certainly made the eight
468
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.639
hours a lot nicer and easier.
That is hilarious. I love that he
469
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.079
an actual upstairs cabin, like in
that tidy room with all the like the
470
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:57.400
crew in there. Yes, wow, that's a tight spot. Yeah,
471
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.280
And certainly the thing was is that
you know, we did not have to
472
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.679
be there when they were basically setting
up the lighting, which was most of
473
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:13.920
the time, and the setup.
You know, we would come in very
474
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:21.679
close to filming. And although for
my particular for that for the back thing,
475
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.679
of course, I had to be
in the bed, which was a
476
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:29.519
special bed with a hole in it
so that it looked like I was lying
477
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:36.320
there but I wasn't. And you
know, but yeah, there was there
478
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.199
was you know, there was the
camera, there was the dolly, there
479
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.719
was the focus puller, there was
you know there was, and they tried
480
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.039
to minimize it as much as possible
so that there weren't anybody nobody extra was
481
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:52.960
in the room if if you either
had a job and you had to perform
482
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.079
it while we were filming, or
you know, yeah out in the hallway.
483
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:04.440
So wait, so that the parks
that were cut other than if there's
484
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.760
this you know, nudity that everybody
says on the internet exist that we don't
485
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.159
even know exists. The blood actually
gushed up through the top of like your
486
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.719
latex back, like I guess in
the back of the vhspot. So that
487
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.719
because again in the actual theatrical cut, you just see the spear go through
488
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:22.800
the bed and you see some blood
guts below. You don't see a touch
489
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.800
flesh at all. But as you
were filming, I take it you were
490
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.119
saying, they're blowing blood like out
of the top of your back. There
491
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:37.559
is a I think it's a Blu
ray box set which came out recently that
492
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:46.960
has all of the films in the
extras of that it has that original footage.
493
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.039
Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, I think we I think I
494
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:53.840
know what you're talking about. Yeah, So when you actually saw your scene
495
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.480
for the first time edited and everything
in like the final product. What did
496
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.840
you think? Yeah, were you
like what happened all the footage? Well?
497
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.760
Yeah, you know, No,
Actually I saw I add a screening
498
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.840
and Megan fran were there and my
agent was there. I don't know if
499
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.400
any other cast members were there,
but you know, it was just a
500
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:23.119
little screening room in mid Manhattan.
And I turned to my agent I said,
501
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.440
that's it, you know, because
it was like, what are you
502
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.920
kidding? And after the film,
after the film finished, I said to
503
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.239
my agent, I said, well, it's not going to do me any
504
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:42.400
harm. So you know, there's
something we were talking about details in dressed
505
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:46.119
account. It's something I've always wondered
regarding the aftermath of your death scene.
506
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.840
So Lauren Retaylor, you know,
comes in the room. She backs into
507
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.440
your body, which is now propped
up against the wall with a noose around
508
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.480
your neck made of a sheet.
Now, why did Jason need to hang
509
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:01.440
you by a sheet if you had
already been skewed to death? Or did
510
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:06.880
Steve Miner ever
explain the thinking behind
why you had to have a noose around
511
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.400
your neck at that point? You
know, of course not, but visually
512
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.679
it was great Oh yeah, what
it did is it immediately not only was
513
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:19.559
it very scary for Lauren Marie's character, but also you know, it was
514
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:24.039
it was like the use of the
sheet like that was fantastic because you could
515
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:30.480
get a lot of blood and cover
up my naked body, you know,
516
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:37.360
so that it would remain uh you
know PG. But you got the idea,
517
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:43.360
you know, so you know it
in term and I'm sure it was
518
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:47.920
in the script that you know,
it was something that just worked very well.
519
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.800
Well, Jason needed room to get
into that bed, to get under
520
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:57.320
the covers, that's true. Yeah, Jason was not. Jason was not.
521
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:01.639
It was pretty it was. It
was not a small character. And
522
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.599
did you have to like because you
know, Lauren Mary Taylor's death is like
523
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.159
a slow death. Did you were
you there hanging on that sheet the entire
524
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:14.400
time? Now, the thing that's
cool is that there is actually a little
525
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:21.400
like like I don't know, you
know, two by four you know shelf
526
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.880
that they had there, which essentially, you know, in between takes,
527
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.639
I could you know, just kind
of sit there and hang out and then
528
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:35.079
they started to film. All I
had to do was slip off the shelf
529
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:43.280
and hang So I was only literally
hanging for you know, the minute,
530
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.800
two minutes of filming, and then
I'd go back sit on the just sit
531
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.039
on the shelf and wait for the
next thing and then just do that.
532
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:53.800
That's great. Well, now the
most important question regarding your debt scene,
533
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.519
the most important one. Did you
get to keep the latex back that was
534
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.639
made of your body? No,
it was, it was pretty much.
535
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.840
And that's too bad. And actually
it's fun. I mean, when we
536
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:13.599
finally got this film, the film
that's on the box set, we I
537
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.639
Edwin Samuelson was doing a documentary for
that box set and we started talking about
538
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:24.440
it, and I, you know, I mentioned that I thought Carl Fullerton
539
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:31.039
had the original VHS with the with
the cut out, you know, not
540
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:37.039
all not only that but also you
know, just the different deaths and stuff
541
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.800
like that, and you know that
that I had heard that he had that
542
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:49.639
original all that original stuff, and
I just happened to have I still had
543
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:54.599
in my you know, rolodex or
my address book his number from New Jersey
544
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:59.639
when we first did, you know, because we went to New Jersey to
545
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.800
do the mold of the back and
things like Russell Todd. They also have
546
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:12.119
Russell Todd's you know, you know, hanging upside down slit throat. And
547
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:17.639
so I said, well, I'm
I'll give him a call and see,
548
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:23.039
you know, does he still have
the VHS? And I don't think he
549
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:34.280
did not respond directly to me about
but he did contact Peter Bracken and Edwin
550
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.199
Samuelson who were doing this documentary that
was going to be part of the extra
551
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:47.159
footage and whatever. And so but
you know, thanks to me, which
552
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:52.000
nobody seems to give me credit for, is that I got in touch with
553
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:57.400
Carl Fulleton and I said, okay, listen, Edwin Samlinson is getting on
554
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:01.760
you know, we can meet you
anywhere if you have this VHS. And
555
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:08.639
he said, yes, he had
the VHS and that and actually Carl Fullerton
556
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:15.280
has been doing like Denzel Washington's makeup
for a you know, like a decade
557
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.519
or something like that. So he
was about to get on a plane at
558
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:24.679
JFK and go to Los Angeles to
work on a film with Denzel Washington.
559
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.880
And you know, don't quote me
because I may be totally wrong with all
560
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:37.400
of my facts here, but so
Edwin Samerson we tried to arrange to meet
561
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:43.679
him before he got on the plane
at JFK and we missed him, missed
562
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:49.920
him there, but we immediately said, Okay, Peter Bracky, this is
563
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:53.800
the plane he's on, this is
what he's landing in lax at this time,
564
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.360
you know, meet him and get
this VHS. So Peter Bracky was
565
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:06.920
able to meet him and get the
VHS. Then the VHS actually had to
566
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:12.599
be baked to get the images off
of it. It was like the Jess
567
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.280
was so you know, it was
forty years old. Oh yeah, because
568
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:21.519
the tape kind of like it apart. Yeah. Wow. So they actually,
569
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.400
you know, and certainly Los Angeles
they have all sorts of different labs
570
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.599
that can you know, save
things. That's what they had to do.
571
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:35.280
They had to go bake the VHS
to save the images and then they put
572
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.519
that, you know, on part
of the box set. But where is
573
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.960
your latex back at today? Well? I think that you know, essentially,
574
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.800
when you put a spear through something
and you pump a lot of you
575
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.760
know, fake blood, it's not
necessarily something you want to hang on the
576
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:57.760
wall as a keepsake. We also
wanted to ask you about that quick run
577
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.639
through you do on camera while Ginny
and Paul leaving the bar in the rain.
578
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.920
How did that come about? Did
you just ask Steve Minor and say
579
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:07.000
like, hey, let me do
a quick run through? Like, how'd
580
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.639
that come about? It was not
asking Steve Minor. It was begging Steve
581
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.280
Minor for a week. You know, hey, let's do a hitchcock.
582
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.480
Nobody's ever gonna know, nobody's ever
gonna see it, nobody. It's just
583
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.920
going to be something that we will
be able to talk about, you know,
584
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.920
one hundred years from now. And
finally he said, yes, it's
585
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:36.000
so funny. I love that you
could never ever spot it if you hadn't
586
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.000
mentioned it in Crystal Lake Memories.
Yeah, so it's it's Janius because yeah,
587
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.599
it's so sad as that casino is
no longer in existence. Oh I
588
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.159
know. Yeah, And Lord Marie
Taylor said that she couldn't remember a premiere
589
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.280
or a cast and chrius screening.
Do you remember one? No? Not
590
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.400
really. I mean I know that
I saw it with, you know,
591
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.639
in a screening room with my agent, but beyond that, I don't think
592
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:06.119
they. Did you ever just go
see it as a regular uh person?
593
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:07.280
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, as a regular
594
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.800
person? Actually, yes, actually
I did. I went to, you
595
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.880
know, because it was playing not
too far from New York, uh,
596
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.559
you know, like across the George
Washington Bridge in a uh you know,
597
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.039
theater complex or something. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't go.
598
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.360
Yeah, so what were their reactions
like, especially during your death scene.
599
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:38.039
It was just too cool. You
know, that was worth the price
600
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.960
of admission essentially, you know,
because you know, I don't know,
601
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.280
I don't think I really disguised myself, but I certainly didn't you know,
602
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:54.000
want to draw attention to myself either. It was so much fun after,
603
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.239
you know, to to hear the
gasp, you know. And the thing
604
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:05.480
that's interesting, it was the original
cut. So the gasp came when the
605
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:10.599
spear hit the floor with the blood, which you know, logically makes absolutely
606
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.280
no sense because if a spear is
going through you know, a mattress and
607
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.400
springs and all this other stuff,
it's not going to have any more blood
608
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:24.239
on it. But you know,
and so yeah, that was really fun.
609
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.760
That's so cool. You know,
we want to play a little game
610
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.159
real quick with you, where we
ask you some simple questions and you just
611
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.400
have to answer with the name of
one of the following Friday to thirteenth Part
612
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:44.000
two co stars either Marta Kober who
played your girlfriend, Sondra, Lauren,
613
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:49.280
Marie Taylor who played Vicky, Russell
Todd who played Scott, Amy Steele who
614
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:52.719
played Ginny, or John Fury,
who played Paul. So obviously, you
615
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:53.599
know, we know you had other
co stars in the film, but we
616
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:57.840
just wanted to choose five. So
we picked your on screen girlfriend and the
617
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.800
four other we've had on our show. So again, the five names to
618
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.239
choose from Mark to Kober, Lauren, Marie Taylor, Russell Todd, Amy
619
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.920
Steele or John Fury. So among
these co stars, who was the biggest
620
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:15.719
jokester or partier on set? More
to Kober, Really, she seemed very
621
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.960
calm. Oh okay, wait calm
oh oh, but I said the biggest
622
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.199
jokester, I mean jokes, I
don't know, well, you know,
623
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.159
certainly if he added see if he
added Stu, Stu was the biggest joke
624
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:40.000
crack. She seemed pretty calm.
Who is the most reserved? John Fury?
625
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.719
Really, well, I mean he
was the head guy in charge.
626
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.920
Certainly. The thing that's great about
the conventions is that you know Russell Todd,
627
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.960
which I did not actually spend a
lot of time with either on screen
628
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:59.679
or off screen. Since the conventions, I've become a you know, a
629
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.199
you know, I've had a great
time at conventions with Russell Todd and the
630
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.480
same with John Fury because John Fury, because he
was like the boss.
631
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:15.639
You know, I really didn't socialize
with John Fury at all. Do people
632
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:21.480
ask you constantly whatever happened to Paul? Like you have something like like because
633
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.639
God, thank God, nobody,
you know, thank God, only only
634
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:30.079
John Fury has to deal with that. So who was of those five who
635
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.280
was most like their Friday the thirteenth
character in real life? John Fury?
636
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:37.960
Oh? Really, Yeah, that
makes sense? Who did? Although he
637
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:45.519
has a much better sense of humor
than he had as as ud counselor.
638
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:52.119
Who did you become closest to while
filming? Uh? Well, the thing
639
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.519
that's great is that with both Stu
and with Marta, because we're both from
640
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:02.800
New York, we got to get
before we went up to uh, before
641
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:09.800
we went off for filming, and
Stu actually is a tremendous you know,
642
00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:17.119
jazz pianist, and so we would
go listen to him play, and yeah,
643
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.239
Marta, Stu and I became very
close before we went up yeah,
644
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.480
you know, just for listeners.
In case Stu Charno played a Ted,
645
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.360
just in case who survives this actually
because he never goes back to the camp.
646
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.880
Yeah, yeah, who did you
keep Now? Who of those five
647
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:42.480
did you keep in touch with the
most after filming? Oh? Okay,
648
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.679
now we have something. The thing
that's interesting is that you know, certainly
649
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.400
Stu lives in California, and I
did a few jobs out in California,
650
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.639
and whenever I would do a job
out in California, he and I would
651
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.920
get together. That makes sense.
This is like a trivia question for you
652
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.920
who made their feature film in the
nineteen eighty slasher He Knows You're Alone,
653
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:08.679
it's one of those five. Russell
Todd Yes, wow, good job.
654
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.199
He's in the opening scene. Which
is the ironic part about that, And
655
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:15.159
we talked him about this, is
that he gets hung upside down in that
656
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.960
movie to and that's what I remember. I do remember him talking about that.
657
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:22.480
Yeah, that's so funny. What
are the odds? Okay, So
658
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.159
here's another trivia one about the five
who went on to have a role in
659
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:34.960
nineteen nineties slumber Party Massacre three Martin. Yes, she was in it.
660
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:42.559
She played quote Pizza Girl, who
went on to start in nineteen eighty six
661
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:47.880
slasher film April Fool's Day, Amy
Steele Yes, three for three Wow,
662
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:53.519
Wow, Okay, this one I
think you'll get maybe who's spouse also has
663
00:53:53.599 --> 00:54:01.400
a background in horror Wild guest John
Fury, Yes, His wife Denise Gaelic
664
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.800
starred in Don't Answer the Phone and
Humanoids from the Deep Wow. Yes,
665
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.159
okay. And last one, this
is a fun one who got killed by
666
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:15.280
someone wearing a bear costume in their
next horror film after Fred thirteen Part two,
667
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:20.119
like pretty much right after Yeah,
one year after Friday thirteen Part two,
668
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.880
this person was in a horror film
where they got killed. I you
669
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:29.840
know, I have no idea,
but I'm thrown out Marta again. It's
670
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:34.079
Lauren Marie Taylor. She was in
Girls Night Out and got killed by some
671
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:38.480
Yeah. Okay, well so just
you and so I didn't get one hundred,
672
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.039
you got four out of five.
So close. Very great though,
673
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.840
Like, yeah, so just a
few more questions before you wrap up.
674
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.400
It looks like, by looking at
IMDb in your resume, that you had
675
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.679
retired from acting in the early nineties. What led to that decision? I
676
00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:01.079
was very fortunate to have my wife
and I had our son, and I
677
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:08.280
took the I mean, it's more
mundane than anything altruistic, other than the
678
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:15.199
fact that we needed health insurance and
I was able to get a full time
679
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:22.480
job at the New York Daily News
doing graphic design, and so that's what
680
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:27.480
I did. So the twenty years
that he's now. You know, so
681
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.840
those twenty years that I worked at
the Daily News was for health insurance.
682
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.000
That makes sense a lot of people, especially when they have kids. You
683
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.599
know, you need a stable job
with health insurance and a paycheck every couple
684
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:44.920
of weeks. And now has your
child seene for their team Part two?
685
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:50.639
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And it's and it's
686
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.199
funny because you know, for the
most part where you're trying to you know,
687
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:59.199
downplay it or whatever, but you
know, every once in a while,
688
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:02.880
like to say, like, you
know, one of the secretaries or
689
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:09.960
assistants at whatever school he was at, you know, he would you know,
690
00:56:10.119
--> 00:56:14.559
throw it out there. Listen my
duds in Friday thirteenth, Part two,
691
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.599
do you know that movie? And
of course, you know, the
692
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.440
the receptionist or or whatever would go, oh my god, you know,
693
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:29.760
so so yeah, he would.
He would use it whenever it benefited him.
694
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.000
Hey, why not, like get
the extra cool points with people.
695
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.800
My dad was in this movie.
I would That's awesome. Let me tell
696
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:40.000
you, I could not have been, you know, more excited and proud
697
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:45.599
the fact that he was interested in
mentioning it. You know, it's great
698
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:52.199
because otherwise, you know, I'm
just dead well. And a question related
699
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.079
to just the whole series and the
fandom in general, like when do you
700
00:56:55.239 --> 00:57:00.239
think you first became aware of all
the fandom behind Friday the Thirteenth series and
701
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:05.159
why, in your opinion do you
think people like it so much, especially
702
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.679
your sequel Part two? And I
also want to add on to this question,
703
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:13.280
have you seen all the sequels in
the theater since yours? No,
704
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:19.519
certainly not in the theater. And
thank goodness for the box set, because
705
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:22.920
the box set, you know,
we got everything plus extras, and that
706
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:28.599
really was the first, the first
and easiest opportunity, you know, to
707
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:35.960
to watch them. And it becomes
a bit of a struggle after a while,
708
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.519
you know, just in terms of
you know, you know, some
709
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:45.880
of it really kind of stretches the
envelope and you're kind of go, Okay,
710
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:52.760
this is so. But but yeah, and but no, I did
711
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.960
not go see them in the theaters. But moving back to the question,
712
00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:00.199
though he just hijacked, when do
you think you became I'm aware of all
713
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.679
that fandom? And why do you
think that people like these movies so much?
714
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:08.039
Especially your sequel? I you know, and I'm trying to remember,
715
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:12.719
because I don't really I can't really
recall, but it was the conventions,
716
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:17.559
and I can't. I don't really
remember the first convention that I went to.
717
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.000
I think it was one here in
it might have been a comic con
718
00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:29.559
here in New York City when it
was just in a hotel across the street
719
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:35.679
from from Madison Square Garden. You
know, it was a really it was
720
00:58:35.920
--> 00:58:40.360
very small and you know, very
few people, and more had more to
721
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:50.000
do with vendors than it did with
celebrities. But you know, I would
722
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:55.760
really it would that. It wasn't
until we started doing conventions that I started
723
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:00.679
to think, Wow, this is
cool. I love the men. A
724
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:06.159
little bit of time went by before
like there was this resurgence of fandom,
725
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.400
like was there in your life where
just like I don't, it's so far
726
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.480
behind me. Oh, absolutely,
and certainly the thing was is that,
727
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:19.280
you know, having decided to,
you know, take a real job and
728
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.480
for the most part, you know, kind of because it's difficult to be
729
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:30.000
an actor and have a real job, you know, pretty much. Yeah,
730
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:36.360
that's I realized. Okay, it's
on, it's on hiatus. Let's
731
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.239
we'll wait and see what happens.
You know, anybody got anything, I'm
732
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.800
back in the game. Well that's
all we want to know. What are
733
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:49.480
you up to today? Are you? Would you ever consider doing another movie,
734
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:53.800
maybe especially a horror movie? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely. In fact,
735
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:57.920
you know, I don't know I've
been a member of the Actor's Studio.
736
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:02.440
I don't know if you know,
anybody in the real world knows anything
737
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:10.079
about the Actors Studio, But it
was, it wasn't and remains a tremendous
738
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:16.400
place for you know, certainly,
you know when it first started. You
739
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:23.480
know, we're talking about Eliacazen,
Lee Strasberg, Marilyn Monroe, Cliff Robertson.
740
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:28.800
You know, they were pretty much
the beginning of it. But it
741
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:35.719
still exists, and essentially there's a
difficult rehearsal process to become a member,
742
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:39.760
but once you're a member, it's
a lifetime membership and I can use that
743
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:47.480
theater and those rehearsal rooms, you
know, whenever for nothing. And there's
744
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:52.880
always, there's always. There are
two actor sessions each week on Tuesdays and
745
01:00:52.960 --> 01:01:00.599
Fridays, and to be able to
go and watch people doing just you know,
746
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:09.199
amazing work for nobody but themselves.
It it has been wonderful for me.
747
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:16.079
And there's a director there that I
worked with fifty years ago that is
748
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:21.760
a member of the director's unit and
he and I anytime he has a project,
749
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:23.199
he says, you know, come
do this, Come do this with
750
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.960
me, Come do this with me. And you know, certainly it's not
751
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:32.559
for anything you know, commercial in
particular, but you know, it just
752
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:39.159
gets the juices going again, and
there's you know, you know, I'm
753
01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:44.519
open for anything. I mean,
I will tell you this, like as
754
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.679
major fans of the Friday the Thirteenth
films, fans of all of these films
755
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:53.719
love to see the actors from this
franchise in other horror movies. I mean,
756
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:59.119
the second they say starring this person
from Friday the Thirteenth, part whatever,
757
01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:02.159
You've got a whole fan base and
audience for that. So follow you
758
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:05.199
to the end of the year.
Yeah, we would love to see you
759
01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:10.800
in more horror sometime. You guys
know any producers, Well, think about
760
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.960
it, we'll think about we have
Well, first off, we have one
761
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.559
final question for you, Bill,
and thank you for all of your time
762
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:20.280
today. It's going to kind of
put you on the spot, so we'll
763
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.840
give you a second to think about
it. But we asked us to every
764
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:28.639
single guest, Uh, what is
one thing, just one thing that you
765
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:30.639
can tell us about your experience working
on Friday the thirteenth, Part two,
766
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:37.440
that you've never told any other interviewer, publication, convention Q and a podcaster.
767
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.400
Just one thing. It doesn't have
to be like the most salacious detail
768
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.079
unless you want it to be.
It could be something simple, whatever,
769
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.079
Just something that you have never told
any other podcast or convention Q and a
770
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:53.440
thing about your retailer. Yeah,
you haven't even told Laura Marietaylor about working
771
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:59.000
on Friday to thirteeth Part two.
Well, I would never tell Lorne Marie
772
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:12.880
Taylor this the whole skin on Skin
day that I spent with Marta. Yeah,
773
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:20.639
you know, certainly that's more enjoyable
than I have ever admitted. You
774
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:27.239
both have poison ivy. Yeah,
you know, Yeah, there is a
775
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:34.760
whole lot of rubbing going on.
Wow, And you know, sometimes you
776
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:38.400
have to do go a little method, I guess, Okay, I tell
777
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:44.119
you. The thing that's amazing is
that, you know, unfortunately haven't seen
778
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:49.440
as much of Marda at conventions as
I would love to
because she is just
779
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:55.360
she's you know, she and Stu, both she and Stu because there I
780
01:03:55.440 --> 01:04:00.800
guess they're California based, just don't. They don't seem to come to the
781
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:08.000
East Coast conventions that much. But
you know, there's nothing I would like
782
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:15.119
better to go have dinner with the
two of them again, that'd be great.
783
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.400
I mean, I think that could
happen. Maybe well when this episode
784
01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:21.519
comes out, maybe we can look
for them on social media and tag them
785
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:27.559
and they can hear you say that
directly. Yes, yes, you can
786
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:31.840
go too, Chris Steakhouse. Ye. No, that is great, And
787
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.320
you know, it's it's so nice
for people like us to hear that.
788
01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:40.320
Like we talked to so many people
from horror movies who have said that conventions
789
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:43.639
are the way they've been able to
keep in touch with so many their old
790
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.239
coast stars, you know, And
I think that's great because you shared an
791
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.760
experience. It was a long time
ago, but it's become so iconic and
792
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:54.960
now a lot of these conventions allow
you all to like, you know,
793
01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.800
see each It's like it's like going
back to your high school. The cool
794
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.960
thing is is like the frid thirteenth
films. I always say I'm a broken
795
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.719
record, but they're so beautifully shot. There's a lot of time in like
796
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.280
the you know, the look of
the film, the music of the film,
797
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:12.079
the actors. Like there is something
just really cool about this exclusive club
798
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.199
that you're in. And also your
sequel, Like I can tell you in
799
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:16.920
my opinion, why I think people
like your sequel so much. Your sequel.
800
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:20.280
First off, Part two is like
one of the ones most people answer
801
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:25.760
as their favorite one in the series. I think it has a kept things
802
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:29.480
simple. You know, there's no
Jason in space. It has a great
803
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:31.679
fun cast with all the different people
you want to see at a camp.
804
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:35.559
It has a great strong final girl, and don't know what happened to Paul,
805
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:39.119
Well, we don't know what happened
upon and has a really scary villain.
806
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:43.519
Like That's why I think Part two
especially stands out among the sequels,
807
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.679
you know, as one of those
that most people say is like their favorite.
808
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:55.840
Well, I think we were very
lucky that we were number two because
809
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:58.840
I think that, you know,
because certainly Steve Minor and a lot of
810
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:03.199
the people that were involved in Part
one did Part two, and I think
811
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:12.159
that the the you know whatever,
experience and knowledge and and help that they
812
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:18.679
got from doing it doing Part one
we completely benefited from. Yeah, so
813
01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:24.519
uh, you know, and of
course, you know, you know,
814
01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:27.519
it's hard for me to say this, but Part two is my favorite.
815
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.480
Well, how come do you get
residuals from the other sequels, because aren't
816
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.199
you like in Part four, like
in a brief second, No, no,
817
01:06:35.719 --> 01:06:39.519
right, you are in the like
in the I think the back of
818
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:45.320
you in the camps. Yeah,
you should be contact Paramount. Talk to
819
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.280
John Fury about this. He knows
all about how to Oh yeah yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, I
need to. It's like a quick second.
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I hey, that's you. You
getting that money? Yeah? Really?
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In fact, I'll give John a
cut if he gets it for me.
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You could work that out. Well, look, we've had such a
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last talking with you. Thank you
so much for taking the time my pleasure.
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01:07:10.719 --> 01:07:13.039
Thank you so much. Seriously,
we will be in touch when the
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episode comes out. And we really
appreciate your time. Thank you so much
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for chatting with us, spending the
afternoon with us. We've had a blast.
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Okay, yeah, me too,
and we hope to meet you in
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person. Sometimes we come to some
of these conventions, so I mean,
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we're on the West coast, but
if you're ever in California or wherever on
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the East coast at a convention,
we can come up and say hi.
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01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:35.840
It used to be that California wasn't
that far away. It seems like since
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01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:40.719
COVID, California has become much further
away. I hear you. There's some
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great NonStop quick flights though. Yeah, and then you can have that dinner
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with Stu Charno and Marta Throwing,
Russell Todd and John Oh yeah, listen,
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01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.400
let me tell you, Russell Todd, I've had such a good In
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fact, Lauren, Marie and Russell
and I have been trying to finagle you
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01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:02.920
know, somebody else to work with
us in terms of getting us conventions,
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just because it's been so dry this
last year. And you know, we've
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01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:15.559
been in you know, text contact
almost you know, every week at least.
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01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:18.159
Oh well, please tell them we
said hi. We've had both them
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01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.760
on the show. We love both
of them. They're great. I have
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01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.640
all of your co stars are great. So yeah, we love them.
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01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:29.199
Yeah, we got really lucky.
Yes, well, have a great rest
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of your day. We really appreciate
it and we'll definitely be in touch.
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Okay, okay, great, Thank
you guys, take care, Thank you,
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