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You're listening to WGSN-DB, Going Solo Network, singles talk radio channel,
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where we take a lighthearted and candid approach to discussions
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on the journey of relationship loss, divorce, parenting, being single,
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relationships building, dating, and yes, sex. Join our listeners and
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begin living your best life.
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So hello and welcome to my show, The Awakening here
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on WGSN-DV, the Going Bold and Going Solo Network. So
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there's going to be information that I am going to
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talk about today that could be triggering for some listeners
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and not recommended for children.
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So please beware of that.
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All of the information that you are getting ready to
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hear is based on my knowledge and what I've gone through.
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They are not intended to diagnose, recommend, or give professional advice.
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So listener discretion is advised.
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Thank you.
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So our topic today, I don't have a guest. Our
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topic today is abuse and mental, I was going to
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say mental illness. It's our brain and what our brain
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goes through in abuse. And I can tell you, having
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gone through abuse myself, And having gone through the death
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of my husband in the last two years, he died
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two years ago, and then the loss of my dad.
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So my husband died two years ago on my birthday,
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and my dad gave me a gift this year of
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not having two death anniversaries to go through and died
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this year on my birthday. So I didn't, when my
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husband died, died two years ago, I only had a
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very short period of time that I could mourn. And
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then I went through the mourning process just for that
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very short period of time. Prior to this, all of
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my husband's six children were there at the house and
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they went through all of my belongings. They ended up
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taking things that were not even their dad's, that were
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my mother's, the things that that some of them were
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given to me by my husband. And it wasn't their fault.
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It was just that my brain was not functioning. Their
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brains were just about the memory of their dad and
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the loss that they just had because their dad was
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the only loving parent that they really had. The mom
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that they had was very abusive to them. And I'm
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only talking about what I've learned from my side of
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it And what I obviously learned from my husband and
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helping his attorney by doing paper investigations. I ended up
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reading all of her emails, all of the paperwork that
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she left behind. She was the CFO and she left
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behind the biggest financial mess of paperwork I've ever seen.
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Obviously not a CFO that somebody would hire all because
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of trying to be financially abusive. So this information, again,
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is based on what I've experienced and what I experienced
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through my husband. So during that time that my husband died, again,
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my brain wasn't working and the kids were there. And,
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you know, there was a hat that was taken that
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was mine that everybody thought was his hat type of thing.
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And none of that showed up to me until later.
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And that was something that now, in hindsight, I'm able
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to look back and see was so much of the
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stress that was going on with me, with the kids.
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And then I had just a period of time there
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and I was living in Arkansas. We were originally from Colorado.
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His family was in Colorado. My kids had come out
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to be with me during that timeframe, but we had
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this like four or five days that everybody was there
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and they cleaned up all of his belongings and stuff,
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which I am so grateful for because that would have
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been additional stress on me to have to clean up
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his stuff. He was a collector and liked stuff. And
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I am one who doesn't collect and don't like very
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much stuff. And so it would have been very hard
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to part with the things that he cherished. And I
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spent probably maybe two months
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waiting for his Colorado funeral.
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And it was at that point.
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That time frame in here and that one of his
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children got abusive with me. He even called my attorney. Actually,
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he was my husband's attorney through the divorce that he
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had gone through. And the attorney called me and he
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basically told me without telling me that if he worked
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for me and he was my lawyer, he would suggest
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that I I tell him not to talk to the
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other side. So I immediately hired him at that point
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to be my attorney through the process. And he said,
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now I tell you to block those children, to not
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have any conversation with them, all based on his oldest
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biological son, because his oldest son he adopted and his
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oldest biological son got extremely abusive.
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And because of that, I was.
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Told to not unless information I had was subpoenaed or
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asked for by an attorney not to give information. Anyways,
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all of this was very abusive. He was listening to
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his mother. When I had to block him and I
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told him I couldn't give him additional information unless he
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went through my attorney, he became abusive then to my sister.
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calling my sister and telling her that she had to
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give information. So my sister texts me and she said, oh,
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he called and he says, I needed to tell you
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to give this information to him. And I said, no,
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this is information from the attorney. I suggest that you
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block him, have absolutely no conversation with him and stay
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completely out of it. And at this point, I was
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texting him back and forth and telling him to leave
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my sister out of things. But this is what abuse does, right?
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It messes with your brain. And for those of us,
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those of you who are going through this, you're going
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to find this to be exactly what you're experiencing. You
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walk into a room, you don't know what you're in
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there for. I mean, this is normal for most people,
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but when we are dealing with abuse, it becomes way worse.
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We might stand there for minutes.
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Instead of seconds to try and figure out one, why
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we're in the room. And two, what we're doing, what
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we're looking for, why are we even there, not even
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remembering getting from one room to the next? This is
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all because our brain is at a point where it
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is trying to protect us. Our brain, and I will
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back up, I've talked about this recently, I was an EMT.
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And so one of the things that we're taught on
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the ambulance is that When we have a severe bleed,
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whether it's internal or external, our body tries to protect it.
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So it will cut the blood flow off to the
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limbs because the limbs don't need to have blood to
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keep that body alive. Your heart needs blood, your brain
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needs blood, your lungs need blood, your liver needs blood.
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So it will cut all the blood flow off to
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your limbs, arms and legs, and it will restrict that
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blood flow to the body and to the head so
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that it can survive. It's the same way with our mind.
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Our mind is in a fight or flight response just
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continuously because of the abuse that we're dealing with. And
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so it doesn't function very well. And in order for
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it to keep this body alive, because this is serious
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stuff to the brain, it will take the short-term memory
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and get rid of it. It says short-term memory is
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not important. The only thing that's important for us right here,
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right now, is to protect this person. And it will
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do things like it will have you screaming back at them.
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It will have you throwing things. It will have you
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hiding in the closet. It will have you cowering to
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the abuser. It can do one side or the other side,
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whatever the brain thinks it needs to do to survive.
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And this is... is done to.
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Protect this body, to protect this human from this abuse.
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And this is just the subconscious aspect to trying to
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protect you. So all of that, when we get ready
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to go through divorce, we're unable to make decisions. And
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that's where having professional help And in divorce, I do
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recommend to everybody to have a divorce coach. Divorce coaches,
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especially those of us who are trained in high conflict,
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we know exactly what we can do to help you
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get over this situation at this moment so that we
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can make the one decision that's necessary for you right
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now at this moment, and then set you up so
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that we can help you make the coming decisions as
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the They're going to happen because you'll have to gather
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your financials. You'll have to talk about the division of properties.
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You'll have to talk about parenting time and who has
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what holidays, all of that super important. And although attorneys
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do this daily, it's what they.
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Do all the time.
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There are certain things that attorneys don't realize that the
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client goes through because the client goes through them after
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they are done with the divorce.
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So basically after they've.
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Gotten rid of and done away with the attorney because
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the divorce is over. Well, now they get their permanent
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orders and they will find in the permanent orders that
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there's not a timeline for this.
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For you to pay your taxes, there's no timeline.
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It doesn't have to be done three months it doesn't
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have to be done in three years it doesn't have
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to be done in 30 years so as long as
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the other side is continuing to say I'm getting it
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done they are technically not in violation of the orders
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so this is something the attorneys don't realize goes on
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in the background because they generally don't have to deal
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with this divorce coaches because this is what all of
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our clients are going through we have an understanding of
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you need to
put this in the permanent orders.
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You need to put that.
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One of the things that I tell people often in
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putting the parenting plan together is make sure that you
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have a time to call or you let the other
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parent call at a specific time. You give that time frame, say,
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from 5 to 7. You can call any time from
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5 to 7. I will make the child available to you.
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they will fight with you. They will call at 10 a.m.
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They will call anytime they know you're in the car.
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They will call when you're at an event and they
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will ask to talk to these children. And if you
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are not, if you don't have this in your parenting plan,
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then you are pretty much so willy nilly and they
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can just get pissed and force you to go back
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into court and to deal with this type of stuff,
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which is something you don't need. You've already been through
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enough abuse in the relationship. You've been through enough abuse
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in the divorce. You do not need to go through
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post-divorce abuse like this, okay? So we need, we as
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divorce coaches, and it doesn't have to be me. I
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recommend a divorce coach. And in these conflicts, aspects, I
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recommend a high conflict, certified high conflict divorce coach. I
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myself am a certified high conflict divorce coach. And that
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in general gives us a broad understanding. I have been
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doing this since before we got a certification in place.
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And then we went through the certification and I would
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tell you it was a perfect certification. All of us
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that were already coaching in the high conflict arena said
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it was an amazing course. It covered everything that we
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go through with our high conflict clients.
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But back to our brain, our brain is not functioning.
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And so I can tell you of recent that I
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was diagnosed here recently or stated to have a TBI.
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That is a brain injury,
a traumatic injury. brain injury, TBI.
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And the traumatic part means that it wasn't caused from
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a car accident. And so this is where people that
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don't understand this type of an injury, they're like, yeah, well,
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you didn't get a bruise.
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You didn't lose blood. So it's not a real injury.
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TBI is something that we see our vets go through
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and they may go through it because they've had a
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lot of brain trauma because they've been shot at and
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they've been blown, you know, in the, the area of
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things blowing up. And so their head might have hit things,
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but what really causes the TBI for most people is
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the trauma that we go through. Those of us that
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have been through trauma of any kind, but specifically sexual trauma,
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that type of trauma gets into a child's brain. And
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in order to protect a little tiny child from all
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of this, it will do all kinds of things to
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protect that child. That is what I am dealing with.
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I was molested as a young child, started like in
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first grade. Some of this stuff happened. I had a
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young boy and the poor boy. I look back over
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this now and I feel so bad for him. He
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has since died. But there was a point where he
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touched me. I was wearing a skirt this day. And
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he said, let me touch your cookie. How does a
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young child end up calling female parts a cookie? So
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you can tell just by that. that this young boy
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was being sexually abused by an adult in his home
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as a young child. So we have no clue what
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his brain went through. But I can tell you that's
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when mine started. And he didn't continue on with that
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type of stuff because I was scared of him and
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never sat next to him again in class. But it
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continued from other boys. And one specific boy continued that
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stuff with me From age nine until I was 16.
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Course of working through this
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professional help from medical therapists, from RTT therapists, from a
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Catholic father who worked with me for a year and
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a half on these types of things. This type of
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stuff has come up to where now sex trafficking has
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been a part of that. And we all see that
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sex trafficking or no, this is what we think sex
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trafficking is, right?
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Is where they bring boys.
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sell them to somebody else. Well, that is the grand
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finale type thing. That is the big side of sex trafficking.
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Sex trafficking can be going on within your own homes. Now,
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this is more rare. In the home is more rare.
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But what we're seeing is we're seeing young girls around
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the age of 12, 13, where parents are letting them
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start to date around that time. And a boy that
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has lots of money decides he's going to date her.
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He takes her out. He buys her nice, beautiful gifts,
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expensive rings, expensive purses. And he takes care of her.
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He picks her up.
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Goes out to dinner and brings her home. Well, at
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some point in this, the young boy who is dating
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age around the same age as her says, well, let's
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get your friends to come along next time and my
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friends will come along. Well, then the young girls that
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she brings along become sex trafficked. She can be trafficked.
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Now she's come into the home and she meets the
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father of the young boy, or at least who's posing.
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As the father of the young boy. And we go into.
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This and we talk about how these girls are asked
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to do massage and the man, the adult man, is
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on the table naked and he asks for special favors.
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This type of stuff goes on. Then the young girl
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is brought home. To her home, her parents are there. Well,
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Whatever is said and whatever she feels, of course, she's
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not going to tell
her parents. And this is how
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we're seeing sex trafficking done more often than not. And
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I have worked with young girls over the years that
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this type of sex trafficking is exactly what's taking place. We,
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I mean, they never, they never go out. They never
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leave the state. In fact, in lots of cases, they
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never even leave the town. But money is being exchanged,
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or in my case, it was prestige that was being
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exchanged for me to have sex with these boys. I
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got to the point in my communication with my therapist
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that I can count approximately 15. I don't remember any incident.
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I just know that they were around. I do know
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some of the incidences. And then some of these boys
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told me the things. Like one asked me out on
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a date and when he asked me where we should park,
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I said I wanted to go home. And he said, well,
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so-and-so said that you'd put out. And I said, no,
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you can take me home. That's how I was able
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to connect dots is I re-heard that conversation from that date.
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And I had been asked out by several guys and
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none of them said, that I can remember, and this
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is the part with our brain is, is it takes
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out that memory. And this is what I am dealing
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with now is a lot of that memory has been
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taken out to protect me. And there's other parts of that.
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And there's a, a disorder that's called dissociative identity disorder.
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multiple personality disorder. And if you really want to look
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at multiple personalities or you want to look at DID,
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the dissociative identity disorder. We all deal with some form
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of that. If you've ever been in class and you
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have zoned out when the teacher's talking, that is DID.
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That is your mind getting out of.
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Here because it was bored in this case.
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For those of us who've gone through things as horrible
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as sex trafficking. And
when I say adult men, there
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were adult men that were involved in mine, and I
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have little to no memory of what took place. And
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I'll thank God for that because I don't want to
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remember some of that. It is coming up through therapy
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because we're now trying to figure out why I'm having
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bouts of memory loss. And it's gotten better over the
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timeframe that I've worked with these people, but I would
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be having a conversation with somebody other than clients. It
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never seemed to happen when I was working with clients,
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but I would lose my sentence in the middle of talking.
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And I would, I remember each time I'd look up
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for the words that I'm missing. The person never really
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caught on to that, but there are times since all
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of this stuff and my dad's death and then family
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conflict that's taken, you know, in there that I, I
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thought I was drinking too much. And so I told
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my doctor I had a concern about alcoholism because I
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come from a family of alcoholics.
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And after the doctor looked.
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Over things and what happened after I quit, because I
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quit drinking for 45 days completely.
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And then I needed to know for myself if alcohol
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was an issue. And It didn't seem to be an
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issue for me at all.
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As long as I can say no and I don't crave,
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then I am not as overly concerned. But I had
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blamed an incident on alcohol. And it's because I know
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I was drinking. But when I talk with a therapist
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and I go back to it, this disassociated situation happened
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before I started drinking that day. And it was because
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I had a point where I was so hurt and
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hurt can show up as anger because that's our, our
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subconscious trying to protect us. And so this hurt showed
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up as anger. And I ended up in a situation
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that got me in a bad place. And that's when
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I decided it was time for me to go talk
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with a therapist and figure out what was really going on.
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And so, The therapist, and this is a doctor, I
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had a medical therapist, and there wasn't an alcohol issue.
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But now we're going back.
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To the brain and everything that happens to us when
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we're going through an abusive situation. I have PTS from
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one thing. I had my ex-husband grab my hand, my wrist.
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And I'm a trained martial artist, so I knew how
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to get out of it. And I released and hit
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a door jam and broke my hand. And later, he
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pinned me down on the bed, sticking his.
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Knee in my chest.
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His statement was he was doing all this to protect
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me because I seemed to be kind of crazy and
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losing my mind. And he was trying to keep me
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from driving or something worse. That was gaslighting. Gaslighting the event.
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When I would bring up the hand, he would say,
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it was your fault. I didn't break it.
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And when I would.
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Bring up the ribs and the bruise and the separated ribs,
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because he separated the ribs from the sternum. When I
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would bring that up, he would say, well, you got crazy.
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It was your fault that I had to pin you down.
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And at no point did this happen prior to any
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other time. And it didn't happen for a long period
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of time afterwards. I, although am a professional fighter, I
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would fight in the ring.
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I am not a fighter in real life.
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That's generally not what my subconscious wants to do. My
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subconscious wants to leave. You know, I might yell and
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scream back, but my subconscious tells me, get out of here.
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It's safer to leave. And the most dangerous time in
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any relationship is the moment that you go to leave.
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Whether that is leaving the fight, which is what I
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was doing, or leaving the relationship. And that includes talking
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about it. That includes writing about it. And even in
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some cases, thinking about leaving while you're with your partner. Now,
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how do I know that thinking can be a deal?
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Because the last fight I had with my ex-husband, I
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was thinking about grabbing my car keys and rushing out
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the door. He had already come through the door and
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was in the whole other room before I flinched to
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grab my car keys. Before I flinched, he was already
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headed towards me. So just the thinking about it in
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that case got me in a dangerous situation.
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I got out to my vehicle.
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I was just leaving. I was just going to go
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drive so that I didn't have to deal with the
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screaming and yelling again. And he bent the door on
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my van.
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I stuck it in.
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And in this case, I hit him and I believe
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I broke his nose. There was blood all inside my
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car and he tossed me out the van, but he
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bent the door in my van and tried to pull
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me out while I was trying to back up. That's
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why I stuck it into drive to try and push
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him out of the way and I made contact. Some
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of what I'm talking about here is what we call
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reactive abuse. When we've been abused, we will react with abuse.
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We might react first. And in this specific case, although
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he bent the door and that is dangerous to me,
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I have the right there to protect myself. But in
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the case with me making first body contact, that is
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reactive abuse. I was reacting to protect me and we
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will go through that. So if you find yourself where
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you're being a little bit the aggressor or aggressive. It
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is part of reactive abuse because of what you've been through. Again,
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that brings us back to our brain and how our
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brain does not work properly thinking wise during this time.
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We can't make divorce decisions without professional help. And so
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I encourage you, if you are going through a divorce,
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that you seek a divorce coach that is trained in
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high conflict. One that might actually even be a therapist
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might be one of the better ones to go to.
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I have studied the brain. I go to a lot
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of classes that the therapists go through so that I
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can understand more about the brain. Being able to have
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a professional there to help you is important. Something else
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that you can do that can start to help is
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a lot of us are gaslit.
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We don't understand.
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And so early on, right when the gaslighting is happening,
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we consider them lying, which is what's happening. But a
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lie is something slightly different than gaslighting. Gaslighting is when
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they tell their narrative and take your narrative completely out
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of your head. They get you convinced that their narrative
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was the right narrative. The hand that he said was
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my fault. It took me several years and I had
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to work with a therapist. It took, I don't know
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how many times that therapist had to say, but he
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grabbed you. You didn't release something that wasn't already done
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to you. And then he threw you on that bed,
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pinned me down and stuck his knee in my chest.
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There was no need for his knee to be stuck
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in my chest, especially if he was only trying to
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calm me down because that's not the way you calm
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somebody that's frantic down. That took me a long time,
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a long time to be able to say. In fact,
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it took me a long time to be able to
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put my husband in a sentence with abuse. And now
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even today, I won't call him an abuser. He was
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abusive to me. I don't believe that he has had
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those same kinds of fights with his current wife. And
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I think that they have got a different kind of
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relationship that's better, more suited for him than our relationship was.
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Excuse me. So this is stuff that goes on that.
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Causes us for our brain, our subconscious to step in
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and do its
best to take care of us, whether
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that is forgetting what's taking place, taking you into another place.
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I know I've heard women that are being sexually raped.
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They're laying there. They're being beat and forced to have sex.
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There was one situation where the woman was forced to
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have sex with several men, anally and vaginally. And they
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did it so many times over the weekend that they
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broke the wall between the anal sex and the vaginal sex.
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They broke the wall in between there. And she... was
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so sore, so hurt for not just days and weeks,
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but years because the scar tissue and everything that took place.
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And the last I heard about the young lady as
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is that she couldn't even find herself in a relationship
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with men because it was so unsafe for her. But
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during the time this was taking place, her brain took
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her someplace else. She can't talk about everything that took place.
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The doctors are the ones that told us what took place.
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And all of this happened and her brain took her
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out of her memory so that she didn't have to
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think about what was happening to her. That happens even
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with the type of abuse, the pain that comes with
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that type of abuse. our brain can shut that pain
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off because it needs to protect us. And that is
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so important for us to be able to communicate. My
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situation is stuff that I've always been open to talk about,
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but I didn't have much memory of it. The one
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fight with me breaking my hand and my ribs getting separated,
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I also think that's the same fight where I ended
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up underneath a pickup truck and for the life of me,
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I think this is all one fight. I think this
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all happened at once. And I'm pretty sure the hand
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and the rib cage was all one fight. But for
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the life of me, I can't tell you what happened
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for the rest of that night. I don't know how
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I got out from underneath that pickup I called underneath.
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I don't know if I slept in the house. I
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don't know if I left. I don't know where my
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children were at. You know, I recently talked with my
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oldest about some of those fights, that specific fight, and
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they must not have been in the house because he
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didn't remember that. And for the life of me, every
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one of these fights, I can't tell you what that
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night was like or what that next day was like
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because I don't have any memory of how it stopped
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because my brain shut that memory down. I had to
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go through and it's still spotty is how it's almost
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like I'm there. And then all of a sudden I'm here.
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And then all of a sudden I'm there. And I
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don't have any memory of walking to that place or
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running to that place. I remember at one point being
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out front, screaming at him or vice versa, screaming at
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each other. And we're like nose to nose, literally that close.
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And I believe I punched him then. But again, the
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memory is not there. And so I come to today.
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And the stuff that has happened recently with my family
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and my memory can't remember some of this stuff. And
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it's because all of that has been re-triggered. So the TBI,
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the traumatic brain injury has shown up again. It's been triggered.
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And so working with a therapist in my case, you know,
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I talk about divorce coaches, but therapists in most of us, situations,
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we need to have that. We need to have somebody
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who's trained and who's dealt with sexual trauma or abuse
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to understand and be able to help us get out
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of this in our head, our subconscious, and or help
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us to deal with those triggers. And that's what I
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am currently working on with myself is to deal with
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the triggers that set this in motion. And so I
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encourage you, No matter where you're at in your life,
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whether you are being abused, whether you have been abused,
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whether there was abuse as an
adult or as a child,
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you need to have some help to make sure that
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you are dealing with today in a healthy mental way.
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This is not, I mean, we call it a disorder,
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but I don't like mental illness. I don't like the
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term mental illness because that refers people that are dealing
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with some of this stuff more traumatic than what I'm
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dealing with.
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That makes it.
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Sound like they're crazy. And I have seen how in divorce,
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how one parent can make that other parent look crazy
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and take the children away from them. So that is
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one of the reasons why working with A certified high
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conflict divorce coach is somebody that's actually safer in the
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early parts. Now, not saying that you shouldn't have a therapist,
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but they're safer in the fact that they can't use
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that information against you. I'm only helping you deal with
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the stress at hand to make the decisions you need
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to at hand for your divorce situation. And then we
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need to make sure that we are getting proper therapy
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when it's time to And it protects us in a
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different way. Now we're talking about protects our thinking and
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the way that we're going to move forward because triggers happen.
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We all have triggers. The magic buttons that somebody pushes,
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we all have them. But how we choose to go
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about keeping those triggers from being pulled or getting rid
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of it. That was one of the people I talked
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with yesterday. They said, let's just get rid of the
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trigger altogether and work through that. In my case, that's
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what I'm working on is how can I get rid
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of the triggers that can cause the stress of my,
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the loss of my husband, you know, because now that
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my dad died, that mourning has all come back from
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my husband. And that is something that we all go
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through when we're dealing with abuse of any form. If
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this has been helpful, I ask that you please like
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and share the information so that it can help others.
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And I welcome you back to the show next week
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and we will see you then. Thank you for being here.
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