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Hello, good evening.
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We're live over here at Community Conversations.
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Welcome in, everyone.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Welcome.
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Yes, welcome in.
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If you have not been here before, we will introduce ourselves.
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I am Samantha Battist, Ward 6, school board member, and my co-host.
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Kevin Sullivan, the city councilor in Ward 6.
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And we are bringing you these conversations to disseminate information and to help explain some local government processes in a broken down format so it's easier to digest for people to understand.
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So hopefully people can engage and interact and get involved with local government.
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Yeah, that's amazing, exciting if people ask.
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I'd love to answer more questions.
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So you know, we want to keep people bringing all your questions.
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If you're joining us tonight, talk with me not at you, right?
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That's right.
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Come with great questions.
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The best questions are the asked questions.
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So bring your neighbors, bring your friends, and it doesn't even have to be ward six.
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So, Counselor Sullivan, how has your fall been?
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My fall, let's see.
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Um, pretty good.
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I don't know if I've said this before, but um, yes, I live in New England, I understand that.
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But the winter part of the year, I dread.
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I don't like the winter.
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So I'll take fall.
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Fall is nice, it cools down, it's dry air.
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Yeah, you got to do some raking and stuff.
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But uh winter, every day that's not winter, I'm happy.
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So how about thank you?
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Same.
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I'm a summer girl.
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I do it's funny, everyone's like, well, you live in New England, take the winter.
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Hate winter, hate it with a passion.
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I just love being outside and being able to not have to wear 85 layers or slipping on the ice when we get groceries and negative 20.
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Yeah.
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And just being outside, you know, eating outside on the grill, just being outside.
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I mean, I life is meant to be lived outdoors.
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Um fall love fall, except the cleanup.
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Did all my yard, not all of it.
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I did a big chunk of my yard cleanup today.
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Um, so there's that.
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It's I almost feel like in New England, there's a clock that starts as soon as summer ends, where it's like this mad dash to get all your winter chores, your chores done, get all the furniture in the shed, rake the things, get the leaves picked up, get all your chores done.
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And then when summer comes when spring comes back, it's like a mad dash to get all the chores done that winter left behind.
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So yeah, yeah.
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So we work hard here in New England, but yeah.
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And for us, we have a pool.
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So it's like close the pool, get the lunar eyes, and then in the spring, open the pool.
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We don't um we don't really open it until like mid-May.
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But wow, do you have an above ground?
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Uh actually we have an in-ground pool.
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So that's a lot of work.
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It's a lot of work, yeah.
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It's a lot of work.
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If you if you're really good at it, it kind of does it, it runs itself and it doesn't get that um dirty.
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But yeah, if you're a little bit off, it's a lot of work.
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That's a lot of work.
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I have a friend with a pool and he tells me all the time uh how much work it is.
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Like that's a lot of work.
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But you know what?
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I bet it has a lot of fun with it as well.
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Especially when you have little kids, like little kids.
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Oh, it's perfect.
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You don't have to leave your house ever.
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That's great.
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Perfect.
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So would you like to talk about any updates on the city side?
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Um, yeah.
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So I mean, for the city side, uh, like I said in the last we've had a lot of meetings with with um really little to no city council meetings between, although we did just have our last city council meeting.
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Um, so yeah, I mean we talked about a good thing to bring up is we did get that update on the water and sewer stuff, which is good because that was um, you know, that's been the kind of has and on these um uh Facebook lives or these these meetings, um, that's been a topic that people have asked about.
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Uh, and we basically say we're waiting to hear,
why can't we, you know, what are we gonna do with the rates?
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So yeah, we finally did get that.
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I will say, um, for anybody that um watched, they heard me say, but if you didn't, um I we actually have raised the rates a little bit over time.
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It the impression that I got, um, not having the exact numbers was that like we had just really kicked the can down the road for a long time.
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Um, but no, we've been we've had some um rate raises.
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I was gonna look at it real quick.
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Um I think they gave us a chart of um since 2010, so like the last 16 years, and we didn't raise it one, two, three, four, like six, six out of those uh last.
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So we did do some small incremental raises.
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The problem is they're just way too small.
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I mean, okay, you know, the average per year went up um you know five percent or more, and then we did some small to nothing uh increases.
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So the bad news on that is we have to make up for that.
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And so the proposal was to increase it 12% um in the on the water side this uh you know right now this year, and then to increase it 50% on the sewer side.
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So that's a big increase.
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Yeah, okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I was under the impress now, I live in an HOA now, and I was checking with our board president.
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We were talking about this issue, and we have a hundred homes where we live.
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Um, our average bill comes month, well, whenever it comes, well, it it's equaling out to, yeah, it's equaling out to about 10,000 a month.
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I mean, I always was under the impression that your water bill was measured, and then do do they just almost like um I don't want to double double it for the sewer, but do you know what I'm I'm not explaining myself.
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Yeah, I'm not explaining myself.
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I'm sorry.
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So like your what your sewer rate is a representative of your water, right?
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Is that how that works?
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Yeah, so I mean basically if it was all one for one, you know, your water usage, let's say it was um 10 units.
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I'm trying to remember what they they use for the thing, but it uh, you know, let's say your water usage was 10 units, um, then your sewer usage would be it's um CCFs, is what they call it.
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Um so if it was 10 CCFs, and then your sewer usage should be 10 CCFs, but some of your stuff um may not go into the sewer, uh,
so you may not have to pay for that.
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But um what I found out was so, like, for example, outdoor um faucets, like you water your lawn, you know, you know, you um attach your uh hose to an outdoor spigot and you water your lawn.
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Well, you can get a meter installed on those so that those route to that would not count towards the sewer.
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So it basically yeah, and so like one thing that you can do in the city, I have an in ground pool.
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It's it's pretty big, it's like 20 feet by 40 feet, so it takes a lot of water, and then hot summers.
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Um, well, you have to lower it a little bit to close it, but anyway, so you have to add some water at the beginning of the year, but then hot summers it evaporates a lot.
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So you find you have to add water to keep it on the skimmer, and so you're you are able to notify DPW when you're filling your pool.
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I think that's more geared at like above-ground pools that may have a one-time fill and you're filling the whole thing if you take it down in the um, and you can get a deduction from that.
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So we have done that in the past, but that's like a one-time, and I I thought the limit was 500 gallons.
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I mean, that's not very much for my pool.
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I'm sorry, yeah, maybe it's 500 gallons, but um, so we do that, but that's a one-time thing.
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But I could, since I fill it with my outdoor spigot and that water never goes in the sewer, um, I could get one of those sewer meters installed.
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And they said DPW does that, and it cost, I think he said about 500 bucks.
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I don't remember what he said the exact cost was, but it wasn't crazy expensive, but also wasn't free.
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So um, so that's like uh um, you know, so that's something I learned.
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But yeah, so it's essentially you pay for when you use water, you pay twice water delivery and sewer.
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And some people, some people are on septics, so I'm not sure about where you're at.
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If you guys have the we have city water and city sewerage for and I want to welcome Mayor Grassi into the chat.
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Welcome, welcome.
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And Mayor Grassi mentioned nine times.
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I think, yeah, because I was reading the water side.
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Yeah, 16 years they didn't raise the sewer rate and 500, he said.
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And it's 500 bucks, yeah.
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So I have a better memory than I thought.
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So so with a with a community like mine where I live, it's all inclusive in
our hoa fee.
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So I never see the direct.
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Yeah, but we pay, I think it's like 10, it equals to 10,000 a month.
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Do you know what that would look like for a community like mine, like what that might look like?
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Yeah, I mean, they give like, you know, everybody uses different amounts of water, so they gave us like averages, and um, so and that they also they're looking at two different schemes, I shouldn't say schemes, but two different um changes in how they do it.
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And one was like across the board, everything equally.
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So, for example, if we need to raise it 12% and 50%, um, you know, everybody's rate just goes up by that percentage.
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So you'll go up 12%, I'll go up 12%.
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If you use one CCF a quarter and I use 100%, we still just get the same percentage increase, but mine's obviously a lot more because I use a hundred times the water that you do.
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Um, but then there's another scenario by which um they would have this like basic rate, which to be honest with you, in the discussions and things that I've had with um on the public works committee and stuff, it does seem silly to not have this basic rate because like when you pay your cell phone bill, you have like a fee you have to pay just for being a let's just say Verizon member, you have to pay a fee.
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You know, on your electric bill, there's like a base fee.
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It's like for being a customer, and that's just because um, and the way it was stated at the meeting, too, is just because even if you're not using water, let's say you only use it part-time of the year, you two months you don't use it or something, they have to make sure that the system is always running in case you decide to use it, you know what I mean?
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And um, so it does make sense to me.
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So there's another scenario by which they would have like a basic fee, and then they would have um the rates on some other uh sort of scale.
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It might be like volumetrically, where people who use between um one and ten, these are just made up, this is not the correct numbers, between one and ten CCF, they would pay this amount per CCF, and people who use between anything more than 10 and 20 would pay this.
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So it's basically like separating out residentials versus commercial because commercial, you know, who use it, we'll use a lot more.
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And then some of them are just very high.
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Oh, excuse me.
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Um, and so there's these different rates, but I'll give you like what it would look like for um, I think it's um scenario two.
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Let me see, high volume single family um typical volume.
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Okay, so for a typical volume under everybody gets the same rate, um it would look like annually, so just you know, a typical volume single family, which is probably like a family of four single house.
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Um they say they use about 12 CCFs per quarter, and so that would raise your annual bill if it's everybody equally but by about$266.
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And if it was um using that second option with like a flat rate, and then based on use and stuff, um, then it would raise your annual bill by$128-ish, a little more.
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So, you know, if it's not horrible in a year, I will say that I looked at what my use was.
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I'm not a 12 CCF user.
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We have a pool, I do water our laws.
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You have a pool.
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Yeah, I have a pool, we do water our lawn.
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Um, I have two kids.
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Um, yeah, one's a teenager, they all shower, so it's a lot going on.
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Say teenagers shower a lot, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, and so we're more than that.
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Um, I think an average user works out to be like 700 and something CCFs, uh um, not 700.
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Um, I'm sorry,$780 a year or 708 or something, uh, would be is like the average bill, I think.
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Ours is a thousand.
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So I guess I use uh you probably use like 25-30% more than the average user.
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Um, but uh so a high volume user, 18.
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Um, theirs would go up.
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I'm guessing I'm probably closer to this, 18.
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Um, their bill would go up under everybody gets the same, it would go up 399, so about$400 annually.
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And on the other option, it would go up 148, so about 150.
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So about per for so per house, okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I think I think really, I mean, you know, most people probably, if you look at these things, the option two of using the flat rate and all that does make the average and the slightly high residential household go up much less than the first option, which is everybody the same across across the board.
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Um Mayor Grassy's mentioning that it was also, excuse me, save snowbirds money.
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They now now they pay a flat rate 25.
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Under the new plan, it would be about half when they were away.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, because they're not using any water, but they
still would have to pay a fee.
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Um I know, I know one individual at the meeting spoke up and you know said, I hate that you have to pay for it if you're not there, but you know, um, like like the mayor said, there are there already was a minimum.
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So um, I really think that option two is probably gonna be most palatable to people um in the city.
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I mean, people I'm sure nobody wants the rate to go up, but unfortunately it has to because nobody that you know the if you really step back and look at this and you've been following it, the reason we have to have such significant increases in the near term too is because now we're paying uh interest.
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Like we're we're paying interest on a loan we took out um to cover the debt.
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And so$7.35 million dollar debt.
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So um, you know, it's it's painful.
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Hopefully I wish we never got in this position, but yeah, we got to do it.
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But it was good to finally see what the numbers would be, how bad it would be.
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Um and the way I understand it though, uh, because some people mentioned they were talking about our phosphorus limits that we need to do um with our new permit from the EPA.
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Um, I don't think this really doesn't factor in any of that.
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I think all that comes at a later date.
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So the the changes we need to make to our treatment plants and things like that to meet the phosphorus, um, the extremely low levels of uh phosphorus in our wastewater um that goes out, uh we have to um that that'll that'll be in a later date, I think.
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So those all will require more rate raises.
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Um but however, this new plan does have a better strategy of it doesn't break even.
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So up if you know for the past however many years, more than a decade, we've been negative.
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So we've been making more money than we um, I'm sorry, we've been spending more to run the system than we've been taking in in in um user fees.
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So we've been in the negative.
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This is not trying to break exactly even, it is trying to have a slight surplus that is for if things break, things that so you have money, you know, it's not an infinite, it doesn't keep going on forever.
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There's this little gap above that just keeps us in the positive and slightly above positive so that we can cover any unforeseen things.
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Um, and it also helps dampen when um the rates do need to go up again for like these new uh processing plants that might need to be built or upgrades to the processing plant to get to
the phosphorus levels.
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So, I mean, I think it's tough, it's a tough thing to swallow for sure.
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It's hard to look somebody in the eye and say, like, yeah, you know, this is a great thing.
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We're gonna charge you, you know, 50% more than we did on your sewer bill.
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Um, but it should have happened a long time ago and it should have happened over 15 years.
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Um it wouldn't be 50, it would be like 5% or 3% like if it was incrementally, yeah.
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That would have been gentler, I think.
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Oh, wait, yeah, wait.
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So hopefully we've seen this, we've experienced it.
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We're gonna have to raise the rates, and hopefully moving forward, you know, citizens of Rochester realize that this is a needed, like it's easier to take a little bit each year than do 50% in one year because you didn't take any for nine of the last 16 years.
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That's a lot.
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Now, will it be 50% for a year and then back down to a baseline, or is it gonna be no no no?
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It jumps up, it will jump up 50% this and then we're going back with then we'll stay there.
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Yep, you'll stay there.
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No, you'll stay there.
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Then you will go up another percentage.
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Um, it's gonna go up every year for a certain amount of time, but the biggest jump is the first year.
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It's the first year, okay.
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Yeah, I'm trying to remember, I don't um have the exact things in front of me, but it was in the presentation if people watch, and you can look it up, but yeah, it's not like it just goes up and stays, it will go up not 50% of your the first jump is big, and then um the here it is, then the jumps get smaller.
00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:52.000
So in the sewer, for example, which is the biggest, it's 50% year one, then 15% for three years in a row, then 10, then 10.
00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.480
So I think it levels off at about once you get to that 10, then you'll revisit and see what you can do.
00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.480
Water is much less, it's 12, 12, 12, 888.
00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:02.079
So okay.
00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.279
For those who are just joining, excuse me, council.
00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.200
I'm sorry, I it's fall, it's allergies.
00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.000
I don't know what's going on.
00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.599
I am so sorry.
00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:13.039
That's awful.
00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:18.880
Councilman Sullivan is talking about uh a presentation they had last week at the city council.
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So it is contained in the meeting from last week.
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You can find that on rochester.gov.
00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:37.119
I I don't know the exact, I can link it when I do an after post um where you can find the presentation with all the the data, the facts, and the figures to this conversation.
00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:47.119
Um Mayor Grassi said option two has a lesser impact on homeowners and a larger increase on major users.
00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:48.160
Yeah, major users.
00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:49.519
And that and there's a big that's what I said.
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:59.119
So they're trying to put that pressure, you know, basically make the people, the the commercial businesses, and there are there's like at least one like majors and understatement, like it's a very large user.
00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:08.240
Um, and so yeah, it's putting more um more of the you know, more of the the shouldering more of the needed cost increases.
00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:18.960
So, you know, um I that's why I said I think option two is much more palatable to probably all or at least most um residents will be uh the option two.
00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:21.759
And we get to choose as residents.
00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:23.200
No, you don't get to choose.
00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:23.920
The council will vote.
00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:24.880
Oh, the council, okay.
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:25.440
I'm sorry.
00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.519
You're like, no, no, stop doing that.
00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:29.119
Don't put the fake news out there.
00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.920
Okay, so the council's going to vote on an option.
00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:32.400
Okay.
00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:43.920
So if you feel strongly one way or the other, you know, like I say in all the meetings, uh, you know, counselors don't get a lot of direct feedback from um constituents.
00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:53.920
So if you feel very strongly about one or the other, I would email both of your ward representatives, um, your your ward counselors, and let them know which one you want to go with.
00:19:54.160 --> 00:20:00.880
I would bet that most of the council is leaning towards option two, but um, you know, that's this is your chance.
00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:02.799
Once the vote's taken, you got no chance.
00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:09.119
So you're probably gonna vote in, I believe we're shooting for early December, I think is when we're shooting for doing this.
00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:12.079
And then when would this affect when would it take effect?
00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:16.319
When would the when would um citizens start seeing it?
00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:17.759
It's a great, it's a great question.
00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:29.200
So yeah, that's a really good question because the other thing, if you watch the public works and everything, the all this talk about um uh all this talk about the the water and sewer rates, um, there's a delay.
00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:33.359
So the rates they would see would start pretty much right after that.
00:20:33.440 -->
00:20:39.359
So probably I think it's January to March, March to you know, April, May, June, June.
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I think that's how it goes.
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So it would start probably right at the beginning of next year if we pass it in December.
00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:47.279
Um, but they wouldn't see the first bill for that for three months.
00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:53.200
So even though they're actually going to be paying higher rates starting in January, they wouldn't get the first bill until okay.
00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:55.359
So you'll see it take effect in January.
00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.759
You'll see it on your first quarterly bill for the first, you know, January.
00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:00.799
For the first quarter.
00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:01.359
Yeah.
00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:02.079
Okay.
00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:04.559
So that's what it would be.
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.240
And then the city wouldn't get that money until then.
00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:09.039
So it's a delayed response, and that's just the way it always is.
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.359
There's always this 90-day delay.
00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:12.000
Right.
00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:23.359
So, but it is important for the um council to act quickly because they should have acted, you know, we should have acted in the three years that I've been on it, which I did push for that, and we should have acted over the past 15 years more.
00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:28.319
So well, thanks for doing the hard work now, everybody involved.
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:40.960
Yeah, and people also can come to the I haven't seen any agendas yet or whatever, but it may be on the next city council meeting, maybe I don't know, but whichever one gets on the agenda, um, they should come and you know, if they have concerns about it, speak up.
00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:41.440
Yes.
00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:41.839
Yeah.
00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:53.920
One thing that I have to say, since I've I'm new in this purview as my first session, um I really feel that public comment it carries a lot of weight.
00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:54.799
Oh, yeah.
00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:59.599
I uh I love it when I see people come in and give public comment.
00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:05.599
And give ideas and thoughts and their perspective on an issue.
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:09.119
And I know that it affects me when I'm making a vote.
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:09.519
Yeah.
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.200
You know, to hear those voices.
00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:17.119
So if you are in the community, it's go to a meeting.
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.359
You just go before the podium.
00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:21.039
You give your name.
00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:24.559
And I'm not sure if we're giving our addresses right now or not.
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:25.920
I apologize.
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.359
I mean the reason why I'm saying that is because there's been some policy changes.
00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:36.079
Um, and then you have
five minutes to talk, and it carries a lot of weight.
00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:37.519
I know for me anyway.
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:42.400
I'm speaking for myself, I don't want to speak for anyone else, but for me at least, I know it carries a lot of weight.
00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:42.880
Yeah.
00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:54.880
And if you get there early enough, sometimes people, especially, especially if you're from my ward, if you get there early enough, yeah, you can you know come up and talk to me, like let me know you're there, and I'll talk to you and you know, hear what you have to say about your issue and stuff like that.
00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:56.000
So and that I really appreciate.
00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:11.359
Sometimes I've people I tell I whenever I see city council or mayor grassy, I always say that on your side, you guys do a great job of your dialogue, giving feedback and having back and forth with constituents and members of the public.
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:12.160
I love it.
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:13.440
I love watching it.
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.680
Your meetings feel very comfortable.
00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.200
I I I it they're enjoyable to go to.
00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:20.319
Oh, well, that's good.
00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:21.359
That's good to hear.
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:23.279
I mean, sit up there.
00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:26.079
You know, as enjoyable goes.
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:27.039
Sorry.
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:35.519
I'm not saying that our sa our meetings are not, but your meetings are are just there's dialogue back and forth, and it's good to see that back and forth.
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:44.799
So well, that's but that's about it for the the sewer's the big thing for the council that we talked about the last one, the last meeting, and then we just had like department updates and stuff, which were you know, we're all great.
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:48.000
Um, like police department's still struggling to keep enough people on.
00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:50.160
That's an ongoing constant challenge.
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:54.079
I can't remember the number they said, but they're operating around 70% staff.
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:54.400
Okay.
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:58.799
Tough for them, yeah, because Rochester is a very high call volume city.
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.880
So yeah, that was the big stuff.
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:02.079
Okay, great.
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:12.559
I know that we've had these conversations back to back weekly for the last month, um, with a very good reason because of elections are coming up next week.
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:14.960
They call them midterm elections.
00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:24.079
And I believe in one of our first chats when we were talking, Menagrassi said that our last voter turnout was 27%.
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.440
Yeah, it was close to 30, but it was yeah, it was high.
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.839
I thought 29 maybe, but yeah, 27%.
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:30.240
Yeah.
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:35.599
So so in my mind, I'm like, oh, great, let's get good information out there.
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:37.759
Let's talk about local government.
00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:48.079
I always feel like the national level of government is very flashy and it's always on the main uh media pages, but local government is very important.
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.920
So I thought, yes, it is, because it's where you live.
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.599
You this is where your children go to school.
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:54.160
Yeah.
00:24:54.240 --> 00:24:59.759
A lot of the stuff they do on the federal level may never even impact your life, but everything we do locally is going to impact you.
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:01.920
Water and sewer for a great example.
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:18.640
So one of the things that I thought about when talking about this, creating this live is just getting good information out there and getting people involved, creating a platform that's interactive so people can feel like they matter, that their voice matters, and hopefully increase some engagement at the polls.
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:27.200
So tonight, I thought it would be a great time since we're voting next week, to talk about what our ballots look like.
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:30.559
Maybe somebody who's watching has not voted before.
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:37.359
Um, I know that I have learned some new things about just being in this purview.
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.119
I've learned some new things about local government that I didn't know before.
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:43.839
And maybe we could just share some knowledge that we have.
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.680
I was telling on when we're promoting this, we're not experts.
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.119
Um, and just as an aside, well, you definitely are good at this.
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:52.480
I'm learning.
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:53.759
I'm learning.
00:25:54.079 --> 00:26:08.160
Um, and it's also good to note that this live show that we do is our own thing that we do, not associated officially with our offices.
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:15.119
We pay for our own devices, our own technology, platforms.
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:16.480
It's all on us.
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:20.319
So this is not in an official governmental capacity.
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:20.880
Yeah.
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.119
So I just wanted to make sure that I got that out there.
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.599
Yeah, nothing I'm saying represents the council at all.
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:26.480
So same.
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:27.519
And I put our disclaimer.
00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:28.799
I don't represent them.
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:34.559
Yeah, someone had a question on Facebook about you know, are we coming in an official capacity and who's paying for it?
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.200
So we are paying for it.
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.119
I mean, there's not much to pay for.
00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.839
These platforms
are unless you upgrade.
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.319
No, we don't need to go into that, but it's us.
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:45.039
It's us.
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:46.240
That's what we're doing.
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:48.160
So we thought we'd talk about the ballots.
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.839
I have them, they're gonna look a little, I'm gonna add this in here.
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.920
We can start with Ward One.
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.519
And I'm sorry if the letters are a little, if it's a little small.
00:26:57.680 --> 00:27:09.200
If you're on your phone, you can kind of increase your the size of your screen, or if you have a TV nearby, you might be able to watch it on YouTube on your TV screen, or I have provided the link.
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:11.920
Um, you can go to rochester.gov.
00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:18.160
They have sample election ballots, so you could maybe um download that and follow along.
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.759
Um, this is the largest I can get it on our screen for right now.
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:29.519
Yeah, but this is Ward One, and right off um we see governor.
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.359
Pretty straightforward, right?
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:32.000
Governor.
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:33.440
Yeah, and everybody's got that.
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.759
I mean, the top of the ballot's the same for everybody.
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.319
So yeah, everybody's everybody's got that.
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:44.799
And we can kind of look at the ballots, like even if they're redundant, we can kind of run through each one if you're okay with that.
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:45.759
Yeah, let's do it.
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.400
Um, I want to pull them up on my phone, too.
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:55.839
So we we're all pretty set on the governor role for our state, the head of leadership for our state.
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.680
Executive branch of the state, yeah.
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.839
Yeah, the executive branch, yeah.
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:04.640
Let's see, I just want to pull them up here so I can see better.
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:08.000
Okay, the next one down, um, a United States Senator.
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:08.880
Yeah.
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.079
Again, um, I think that's pretty straightforward.
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:12.720
Yeah.
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.000
Um, and it says you vote, and it says if you've if you thank you, yes.
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.359
Let me put this up.
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:20.160
Yeah.
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:25.519
Member, welcome, uh member Carlberg, rochester nh.gov.
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:33.119
If you want to find the link to where all the sample ballots are and follow along, if the screen is a little too small for you.
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:34.000
Yeah.
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:37.920
I think you go to like, I think when I got them, you go to like the city clerk's office.
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.559
You have to control then you go to the bottom of that page and it says like election information.
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.440
Click that.
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:44.799
Well, it's the bottom on your phone.
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.119
It might be on one of the sides on your computer.
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:53.519
And then um, and then you go to like once you're at the election page at the bottom, it says like sample board ballots, and you can see them all.
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.240
Yes, and you can also go in person as well.
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:03.200
The community center on the front side of the building, um, towards the entrance to the parking lot end.
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.480
And I went there today and grabbed some, and they have them right there in folders right when you walk in the door.
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:15.440
So if technology, if it's hard for you to download, they have them all photocopied, and you can just take them, grab and go.
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:16.799
Easy, grab and go.
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:22.559
Um, so we have United States Senator vote uh not for more than one.
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:23.920
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.880
Um, and then that's United States Senator.
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:31.519
And then the next one down, we have representative in Congress.
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.559
Vote for not more than one.
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.200
And then below that, executive counselor.
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:46.960
And I was this many years old this year when I found out what the executive counselor does.
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:47.680
Oh, really?
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.000
If you can believe it, if you can believe it.
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:51.359
Well, yeah, that's interesting.
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.400
I don't know if a lot of people know, but I mean, like the executive council is pretty powerful in the state.
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:05.200
I mean, the governor makes decisions, but a lot of things that they do are done just like it is here in Rochester with uh uh a counselor form of management.
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.319
And so she has this um committee of people.
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:09.279
Is it five?
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:10.079
Is it five?
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.599
I think it's five.
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:12.480
I think so.
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:13.680
Yeah, I can't remember.
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:14.720
Maybe it's more than that.
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:22.400
But it's a pretty pretty small, pretty small group, and um and they um yeah, you know, she has to get these things voted on by them.
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.279
And sometimes it holds up contracts the state has and things like that.
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:31.519
But yeah, it's it's a bigger, more influential um council than I think most people think even exists.
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:32.960
I I had no idea.
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.039
I I've been voting for this.
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.440
Um, yes.
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:39.759
Mayor Grassi chiming in?
00:30:39.920
--> 00:30:40.720
Yes, there are five.
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:41.039
Yes.
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:46.000
I've been voting for this position without doing much research because I had no idea of what they did.
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:51.440
Um, New Hampshire is unique in that we vote for our executive counselors.
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:59.920
Um, in other states, they the governor can appoint the council.
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.680
So in our state, we vote for them and they meet with the governor.
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:09.839
There's a little, if you go, if you tour the state house, right outside the governor's office is a big boardroom and they meet there.
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.200
That's where their meetings are.
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.240
And if you haven't had that tour, I highly suggest it.
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.480
My son and I just went, we were in Concord, and they give a great tour over there.
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.680
They're very friendly, and it's it's wonderful, it's a great tour.
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:27.039
Um, the Mayor Grassi, they approve all contracts and appoint um.
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.640
I don't know what that trend says.
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.480
Um and I think they also have veto power.
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:35.359
Am I right?
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:42.240
Um, I I don't know if the veto, I guess not in the same way, because the veto, I mean the governor can veto legislation.
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:51.119
The governor can veto lead legislation and then the you know the houses um would have to then override the veto by two-thirds, I believe.
00:31:51.200 --> 00:32:08.400
Um, I'm not sure how the council would, but they do have the authority in the just in the fact that they can vote against the governor's wishes for maybe that's what I'm thinking, like a veto in that way, like they can veto the governor's wishes, but in those kind of things, but it's not the same as they don't vote on legislation, it's other things that the state has to do, like contracts and things like that.
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:09.279
Appointments, okay.
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:10.240
It's set up for Trent.
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:10.880
That's what it was with.
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:11.839
Yeah, appointments, exactly.
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:17.359
Like like the directors of um, you know, um, like the commissioners of different agencies and stuff.
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:18.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:18.319
Right.
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:24.400
Um, our most recent um city manager was appointed by the governor for her new role.
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.519
So that's wonderful.
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:26.079
That's great.
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:26.720
Interesting.
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:27.359
That's great.
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.680
Yeah, I never I never knew what the in my professional capacity.
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:37.279
Um recently I did have counselor Stephen, um, not Stevens, John Stephen.
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.480
Um, he called together these meetings with developers in the fish and game department.
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.519
And um, so yeah, I'd have meetings with John Stephen.
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.960
I sat right next to him, basically right up there, um, in that office.
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:50.160
So it's pretty, pretty cool.
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:51.119
That's awesome.
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:51.920
That's fun.
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:53.359
Yeah, that's really neat.
00:32:53.599 --> 00:33:02.640
I think it's one of the most um under the radar groups that's really not um that's not talked about all that often.
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:14.640
You know, we talk we talk about governor, we talk about senator, we talk about representative, but I don't you don't hear unless you're in this purview or for like especially for your career, you would probably work with them.
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.599
Um occasionally they yeah, they call us to account.
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.039
That's what they do, represent their constituents and their districts.
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:21.839
Um, yeah.
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.799
Yeah, so do your research, it's a very important group.
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.920
They also approved the 10-year transportation plan.
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.960
All our roads and highways, right?
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:40.799
Yeah, which this year, yeah, that was a veto override this year um for the legislature because the governor um didn't approve it and the legislature overrode the veto.
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:47.839
So this is Mayor Grassi, this is actually really great, and they are our best contacts for contacting state agencies.
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.200
Wonderful.
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.000
So very important, very important.
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.119
Um, okay, so next is state senator.
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:06.000
So before we had United States Senator, they work primarily federal level, and the state senator works for the state.
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:06.880
Yeah.
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:15.360
Easy to we just have one, so we'd have one senator because the senate only has 24 members total.
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.800
So um I think it's 24 districts.
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:24.159
I it's based on areas in the state, but it's not like it's not like every city or county gets one.
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:30.800
It's basically like grouping it together, you know, it's districted so that the state divided into 24 parts, and we get one.
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:33.599
So 24 total and we have one.
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:34.639
Okay.
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:36.960
So yeah, but for no more than one.
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:38.400
This is actually really good.
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.199
Cars, contracts, appointments, roads, and services.
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:46.000
So if you're thinking about an executive counselor, that's a really good acronym.
00:34:46.960 -->
00:34:47.679
I love that.
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.360
I love that a lot.
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.800
Okay, so now we're gonna.
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.159
This is the one.
00:34:54.719 --> 00:35:01.679
Okay, so we did state senator, state representative, Stratford District.
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:11.840
Yeah, you know, actually, when I looked at this and I was thinking about it too, which is really interesting to me, um, is the fact that um Will Fezenden is on here twice.
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:13.039
And I was here.
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:28.400
Yeah, so I'm I'm gonna have to ask the city clerk because I do I'm moderator for our ward, ward six, so I run the polls, and I'm like the one like if people have a question, you know, or something they feel is not correct, whatever, then I have to talk to them and answer the question or whatever.
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.239
Um, but like this is a question.
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:38.719
So um, if you vote for Will Fezenden in the independent column, does it also count for him in the de Democratic column?
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:39.280
You know what I mean?
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.559
So, like, do they do they combine or is it one or the other?
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:54.639
So I think that should be probably should try to, you know, people people should figure that out or ask their poll if they're wanting if that's what they're planning to vote for, they should ask their poll how that works, I think, because I'm not positive.
00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:04.559
So I will definitely ask the city clerk for a quick when I when I picked up the ballots today to see them, you know, in person, I saw that right off and I'm like, oh, if I have I wonder what that is.
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.280
So I'm glad you brought that up because I was going to ask about that.
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:08.639
Yeah, what that means.
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:22.960
And the reason I say that too is because like one thing that happened a lot at the primaries, people wanted to vote for um a candidate from one party who was not on their ballot.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:33.199
So like they took a let's just say they took a Democrat ballot, because they're registered Democrats, they have a Democrat ballot, and they wanted to they wanted to vote for the Republican for a position.
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:37.280
And I and I'm like, well, yeah, you you can do that, but it doesn't count.
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.039
So I had to explain that to them.
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.400
I'm like, yeah, you can, but it's not gonna add to their total.
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:49.280
Um, you know, and so that's why those kind of things are important to understand.
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:57.360
Doesn't matter in that situation at all, because obviously the Republican candidate's not gonna win the Democratic thing that if they're popular, they're probably gonna win their thing.
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.039
So they're still gonna be on their ballot as they should be, but it's a good question to ask.
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.239
Um, and I know the mayor says he his understanding is that they'll be combined.
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.519
I will confirm that with the um the city clerk.
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.239
I you know, I wish I had done it before that if I had thought about it.
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:15.280
Um, because you know there are little things like that that can matter, you know what I mean.
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:16.400
So right, right.
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:23.119
Remember Kahlberg said, I think he missed the original deadline to file, so he had to run independent, something like that.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.519
So I think you're exactly right.
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.000
And so it's just more about what is the result in the end.
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:28.880
So okay.
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.840
So I run my ward, I will try to get the answer.
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:42.079
Hope maybe there'll be clarification, confirmation for all the wards, and then um, you know, if somebody goes to vote and that is who they're choosing to vote for, or or they're whatever they should probably ask just to get a okay.
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.239
We're gonna be back next Monday, I think, right?
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:45.920
Oh, next Monday we're back.
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:46.960
I think so.
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.800
I think that's I think so.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.039
That's the day before, so I'll give you the answer.
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.920
We'll confirm that, but if I think we are, um, and then we can see if we can have an answer for next week before we all that's a good point.
00:37:58.000 --> 00:37:58.480
That's a good point.
00:37:58.559 --> 00:37:59.519
He's only in ward one.
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:14.480
Okay, so I don't have to worry about it for my word, but hopefully that ward in ward one gets a good clarification on um that because it you know that can really mess somebody up if that's you know they would just feel bad if they wanted to vote for that individual and they voted for in one column and it didn't count.
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:15.920
Right, right.
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.320
Okay, so now we have, and this is where this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about.
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:23.440
I had the idea for this.
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.800
I was the idea for this came about talking with my dad.
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:33.440
He always likes to hear people talk about the ballot, especially the ballot questions, because they can be a little confusing.
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:50.320
But for me, this says state representative Stratford District 5, so that's district five, and then district 19, and you can vote for one and the in district five, and then you can vote for three and district 19.
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:51.840
Is that based on population?
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.599
Is that how that system works?
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:55.360
I don't
know the answer to that.
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:55.920
Okay.
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:02.800
I mean, that there are yeah, all the districts are, I'm not sure, just like the executive council, I'm not sure if all the things are set up specific, you know.
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.920
I'm guessing it's to evenly distribute number of people represented, you know, as close as possible.
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:16.239
They're not gonna be exact, but like, you know, um, so that you know, just raw numbers, but like so that every person represents about 3,000 people.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:18.400
So um that's that's how they do it.
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.320
And so yeah, so for that one, um, you're you're talking about the 19.
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:23.440
So like 19.
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.880
One or two of our wards don't have that.
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.519
Um, two three.
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.639
Um yeah, so let's see.
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:40.000
Jonathan Vermicke.
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.840
Jonathan Vermicke, yeah.
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:46.559
So ward five, when we get to it has a different set of representatives.
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:51.679
And then um ward I think I think that's it, right?
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.679
Doesn't ward not have it at all?
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.119
No, just ward five has a different group.
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:57.840
Okay.
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.000
Yeah.
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:12.800
That's the one that's always confused me the most.
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:17.039
It are the um representatives for the state.
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:23.119
And that that too um is also ward five.
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.719
Okay, let's look, let's so we have Mayor Grassi.
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.159
Each ward in Rochester gets one and a half reps.
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:31.280
Yeah.
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.559
We also have the largest body in the United States, right?
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.599
Uh the house that um, yeah, we have 400.
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:45.519
400 400 state reps and 24 centers, so 424.
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.440
I mean, yeah, it's definitely one of the largest in the world, actually.
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.960
It's not the largest in the world, but it's one of the largest, like pretty close.
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:56.000
Yeah, and then Ward 5 is merged with Melton.
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:57.360
See all these fun facts.
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.920
Yeah, thanks for joining us tonight, Mayor Grassi.
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.159
This is great, actually, getting this information out.
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.079
Yeah, uh that's the thing is on that one, you got to make sure you vote for three people.
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:11.039
Um, and you know, you could vote for less, you could vote for more, but I mean you get three votes.
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:12.559
So you get three votes, okay.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:18.000
Three of the six people that are running, and most of those in
Ward 5, it looks like only four people running.
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:19.199
Hold on, let me see.
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:20.480
Not there yet.
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:22.719
Third largest in the free world.
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:23.199
Wow.
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.599
Yeah, our our little tiny New Hampshire.
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:26.719
It's amazing.
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.400
Yeah, that's amazing, actually.
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.880
It's very, very, very highly represented.
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.920
It does make it difficult to accomplish things with 400 people.
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:37.119
I was just I'm on a board of 13.
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:37.920
Yeah.
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.840
And we know, like, it's great to have dialogue.
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:43.440
We love the conversation.
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:50.239
Um, but imagine having wow, imagine having a group that large and getting work done.
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:55.440
And and they can all submit um legislation, you know, during each session.
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:57.599
So it's a lot of it's a lot of work.
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:04.239
And they have been in the past um sessions, they have been submitting quite a bit of legislation.
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:08.480
So most of it doesn't go anywhere at all, but it does time.
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.800
It doesn't, it doesn't just can't just submit it and make it disappear.
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.159
It takes up a lot of time.
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:19.440
So I have um attempted to submit two pieces of legislation, and um it can it's an arduous task.
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.119
You know, there's a lot of processes and steps that it's go it goes through.
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:29.039
It's well worth it if you're passionate about something, if you're seeing where the system could be improved.
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:31.760
I highly, highly recommend the process.
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:39.199
Um, because it's a good process to learn, but it is an arduous task to get to get some legislation passed.
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:53.440
And you can watch, you can watch um most, most, not every single, but most of the meetings um at the House Legislature are like the committee meetings, um are streamed online, so you can watch them.
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:55.119
And you can watch them on demand later on YouTube.
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:56.320
Yeah, they're pretty interesting to watch.
00:42:56.400 --> 00:43:04.960
And you can you know, you can watch your you know, Rochester's representatives and senator um and those meetings, and you can see how they're voting.
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.800
But better than that, you can you know it's easy to you'll hear how people vote.
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:15.519
But if you watch the meetings, you can understand because they'll usually talk about why they're voting the way they vote, you know, and you hear a lot of committee discussion.
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.639
So that's wonderful.
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.559
Uh Mayor Rassy said you vote for more and it won't count.
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.639
So you do like even if you did vote for more, it's not it's not gonna count.
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.480
Yeah, um, and he said over a thousand bills get submitted.
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:35.920
Yeah, imagine that trying as a as uh an elected official on a committee working through that.
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:37.119
Yeah, exactly.
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:37.920
That's great.
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:38.559
That's great.
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.440
Wow.
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:40.559
Wow.
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:43.599
Let's see here.
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.719
All House sessions and all standing committees are live streamed on YouTube.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:49.760
That's great.
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.039
Well, some of the some of the committees, yeah, the standing committees are.
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:53.519
That's correct.
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.920
Some of the ad hoc or session committees are not.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.760
That's some some are hard to find, but um, all the all the standing committees.
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.039
Are streamed.
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:01.599
That's right.
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.199
Then we're going to move down to sheriffs.
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:12.320
I think we've have we touched on uh representatives enough given I hope everybody who's watching has got enough good information.
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:17.519
Um thank you for Mayor Grassy coming into the to the chat with the good information.
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:18.559
Love that.
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:20.800
Um so the next is sheriff.
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.239
That's pretty straightforward, right?
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:22.639
Yep.
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.280
So then that's that's county, yeah.
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:25.920
Correct?
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:27.360
Yep, county sheriff.
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:31.679
Yep, county sheriff, and then um county attorney.
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:33.280
Good to know.
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:34.800
Didn't know about that.
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.239
Um so we have a county attorney like we do, we have a city attorney.
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.519
So then we have a county attorney, we have an attorney general on the state level.
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.360
Um, so that's good to know.
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.119
What what would a county attorney like uh county contracts, things like that?
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.519
Is that what the primary yeah the county attorney?
00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:57.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.440
I mean, yeah, bigger things.
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:00.960
I'm not sure.
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:02.400
Uh let's see.
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:09.760
I'm trying to think if they have anything to do with um the superior courts.
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:11.280
Um, but I'm not I'm not positive.
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.400
I'm I'm not positive if
they you know exactly what they have to do with that.
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:19.440
But yeah, it's gonna be about county level, yeah, like large contracts, larger issues.
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:21.199
Um yeah.
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:22.960
So just like the just like the county sheriff.
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:29.199
I mean the county sheriff is the head of the you know Stratford Sheriff's Department, so and all the the we call them deputies, right?
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:30.079
Yeah, exactly.
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:30.559
Yeah.
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:31.199
Okay.
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.039
But like they change, so you know, it's not always the same person.
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.000
So they're kind of in and out, but so they're criminal prosecutions, yeah.
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.719
Yeah, it's not gonna be that person though, probably.
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:42.079
Right.
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.239
There's a department that works under them.
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:45.119
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.440
It's gonna be all criminal, it's gonna be like um, yeah, what do they call them?
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.119
Um deputy process, like deputy attorney generals, whatever.
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.440
It's gonna be not attorney generals, but yeah.
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:56.159
Right.
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.599
That's a lot for one person to do, but yeah, they can do some.
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:00.800
But that's the office.
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.159
Yeah, county treasurer on the same line for the county.
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:06.960
Yeah.
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:08.159
Treasurer.
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:08.639
Yeah.
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.039
That's pretty straightforward, I think.
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.519
This is another good one because I don't know if many people know about this position.
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:17.679
Register of deeds.
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:23.679
Yeah, I don't, I'm not even sure exactly what that is.
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:31.039
I mean, in terms of, you know, it I've always I remember voting, and it's like this seems pretty obscure to me.
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:39.599
Yeah, I mean, it is like I know what the registry of deeds is, and all that stuff, and I guess I'm I'm assuming this person heads it up, but you know, I I don't know.
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:47.199
And I'm just wondering why our founding fathers decided that that would be an elected position and not a hired position.
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.679
Yeah, well, I'm guessing they think it's probably elected.
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.599
I mean, my my case is like a lot of these things is they think like because deeds are very important.
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:57.119
I mean, like your property, that's saying what property you own and things like that.
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:13.199
So, you know, that's like they want people representing themselves on that, not just you know, because of the big fear, obviously, in the colonial times,
was that there's so much corruption in government that the like the king could just start taking away, yeah, all land transfers for deeds and stuff.
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:16.079
So if the king could just start taking away your property, you know what I mean?
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:26.719
So it does kind of make sense to me why they would want an elected person um in this kind of thing, you know, oversee this uh because yeah, it is it's your property.
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.440
Um then the king on your deed, yeah.
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:30.400
It does make sense.
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.440
Provides representation, but it makes sense.
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.079
Uh register of probate.
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.760
Yeah, that's a and that's one of the questions this year, too.
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.320
I think is about eliminating that position.
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.119
Um is that one of the questions?
00:47:46.079 --> 00:48:17.760
So statutory require uh because from my understanding, um my understanding on that one, and I was sent out some just some clarifying language, I think, um uh to to be the moderator, but um I think essentially the New Hampshire, New Hampshire, I don't know if it's the Supreme Court or whatever, but they basically the the previous work of this position, the probate, is not really under that person anymore.
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.239
Um, it's kind of done outside of that, I think.
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:20.880
Okay.
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:27.360
Um so they're saying like it is a position that is still maybe it's the constitution that creates it.
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:31.760
It's a position that still exists, but they're saying it doesn't have any authority anymore.
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.840
So yeah, it doesn't it doesn't have any authority, yeah, they're not saying it doesn't do anything anymore.
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.280
So that's what the question is.
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:53.920
So, you know, I kind of feel like you know, for that question, people should research it and figure out what they want, but I also feel like there's um yeah, it's it whether you vote yes or no, I think it doesn't really change much, I guess, is is uh from the way it's working today.
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:55.679
But I think people should look into that.
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:07.440
But my understanding for that question related to that is basically this position that was set up and has been elected historically, um, doesn't really have any authority anymore.
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.039
So you want to just get rid of it and stop electing it, I think is what they say.
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:16.159
But okay, so we jumped ahead just a little bit, but it's good while we're here, we might as well talk about it.
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.239
This is question one, and let me um just turn the page real quick.
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:26.559
So, as you can see on the ballot, this is what we're talking about is the register of probate.
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:28.960
There's an actual question on the ballot.
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:43.280
Are we in favor of eliminating the officer, Office of Register of Probate by amending articles 71 and 81 of the second part of the constitution to read as follows?
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:47.440
And I don't think anyone wants me to keep reading if you would like to read it.
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:48.559
That's the gist.
00:49:49.119 --> 00:50:00.880
So, question one is um, are you in favor of eliminating the Office of Register of Probate by amending articles 71 and 81 of the second part of the constitution?
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:02.800
There.
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.280
So, and I think people should, you know, people should look.
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.920
You probably Google it pretty quickly and figure it out.
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.960
But I mean, like, yeah, it's like the kind of thing you just have to decide you want to do.
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.679
But so it is interesting that that question is related to this position.
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:18.400
So on the same ballot, you would be electing somebody and then you put it.
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:25.280
And then whatever that turnout may be, whatever the Yeah, and then you're gonna be their position later.
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:25.679
Yeah.
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:27.119
Right, right.
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:35.599
Um so we just have one more as far as our position, and then we can go on to question two, and then we're done with this ballot.
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:42.159
And I think all of the ballots are relatively the same, but we can put them on the screen just to kind of verify and make sure.
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.760
Um, this is a good fact.
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.719
The question has been on the ballot many times and can never get enough votes to pass.
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:51.360
Yeah.
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.239
So this is a a recurring question, I guess.
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:54.639
Yeah.
00:50:54.880 --> 00:51:01.519
Because it like I said, it basically has no, it really, it really has no effect on changing what's happening now.
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.719
So the only change is you don't elect this position anymore.
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:07.679
But the position obviously has really no authority.
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:08.800
So yeah.
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:10.480
Right.
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.599
Okay, the last position is county commissioner.
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:15.440
Yep.
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.119
A county commissioner works on the county level.
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.639
I don't know how many, I don't know how many commissioners there are.
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:24.159
That's a good question.
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.239
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:31.039
Uh it's a fairly small board.
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:32.400
Um, but I I don't remember.
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.199
Maybe Mayor Grassy knows the
number, but I want to say it's also like a small number, like five.
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.000
Um, I can try to look it up real quick, but yeah, I'm gonna see if I can look that up real quick.
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:46.000
Yeah, I think it's also a pretty small um commission.
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:55.360
But um, yeah, but they they do some things like they're involved with like um you know, they don't look an ask you always wanna, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:56.159
Go ahead, go ahead.
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:02.320
Um, you always want to verify what you're Googling because first things first, we don't always believe what we read on the internet.
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:05.760
But when I Googled it, it does say that there's three county commissioners.
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.760
That's small, so it's even smaller than I thought.
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:08.239
Okay.
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.239
Um, well, let's say that is the case.
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:17.039
And and they um, yeah, they do things like you know, most recently they um did the shelter, right?
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:30.079
So um, like the um, you know, instead of doing that Will and warming center thing that we've been doing cooperatively with Summersworth and um Dover for years, now there's a excuse me, there's gonna be a warming center.
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:37.920
So they kind of spearheaded that, um, you know, with our money, but um, you know, they they spearheaded that and they make that happen.
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:45.119
Um in the past, recent history, there was a big thing about the nursing home, trying to redo the nursing home, stuff like that.
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.360
So they do county level stuff, you know what I mean?
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:52.639
Like that's the warming shelter that serves multiple parts of the county, um, state uh towns.
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:58.079
It serves, it'll serve, you know, they're not turning people away, you know, because they're homeless, you know.
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.719
So you then they may not be in Dover Rush or Summer Sorts, but they they use that.
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:09.920
But um, but yeah, there's the things that affect the larger county, so the county uh the jail nursing home, the jail, things like that.
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.719
Yeah, so that kind of stuff, county property things.
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.039
So um I'm surprised it's only three.
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:16.559
That's less than I thought, but man.
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:22.400
Right, because I feel like we have a big geographical area and a and um a big population.
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:23.440
Yeah.
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:29.280
So yeah, yeah, not the most important.
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.400
They used to be elected at large, Mayor Grassi is saying.
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:33.119
Yeah.
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:35.920
Um, so that's it for positions.
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:37.280
We kind of ran through them.
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:39.599
Pretty straightforward this time.
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:48.000
I always get um when we have so it'll be next year when we vote for like ward clerks, those types of things.
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.480
So we don't need to have that conversation now.
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.920
Um, but the ballot seems pretty straightforward.
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.159
Um, okay.
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.639
We are very small area-wise.
00:53:58.800 --> 00:53:59.519
Oh, that's funny.
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:01.440
I thought we were larger, but I guess not.
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:08.159
Area-wise, yeah, because when you start because it's because we're dense, so densely populated, not dense.
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:13.039
Um so yeah, I mean, because like when you get like, you know, that's another good note too that I just bring up.
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:21.360
It's like so our executive counselor, we're I forget what district number we are, maybe just I can't remember, but it's um Joe Kenny currently.
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:27.039
Um, if you look at the district area-wise for ours, it's enormous.
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.719
It goes from Rochester all the way to the northern tip of the state.
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:40.239
Um, and then you look at all because you know, populations, and then you look at um some of the ones in the south part of the state, they're really small because they include like Nashua and Salem or whatever.
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.360
So they have they get the same number of people with such a small area, um, or a similar number of people.
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:46.960
And so, yeah, it's funny.
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:57.199
So, area-wise, um, yeah, we're small because we're more densely populated in in that respect, but like our district for the executive council, we're huge, right?
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:02.000
That's that that's a very, very, very, very large territory for him to cover.
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.199
It's huge, yeah.
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.159
Yeah, crazy.
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:05.440
Look at it, look at that.
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:09.119
He goes from Dover to to Dover Point to Canada.
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:10.000
Yeah, exactly.
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:12.000
That's a long day at the office.
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:13.360
Yeah, that is a long day.
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.800
He does a lot of driving too.
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:15.199
It's crazy.
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:16.480
Yes, whoever's in that position.
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:24.719
I can't, I mean, I've only ever since I've been you know involved with this and stuff, that he's the only one I've known um and spoken to.
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.000
But um, yeah, I'm sure people always in that position.
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:31.440
They go, they travel to those places, so uh they do a lot, a lot.
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:38.880
It's a lot, it's a lot more to ask for commuting than it is for the other districts in the state, which
are much smaller, right?
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:39.440
Right.
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.000
Area-wise, not not population-wise.
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.000
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.199
Okay, we're on to the second question.
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:54.239
Um, and everybody ward-wise, one through six, gets these same exact two questions, correct?
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:55.360
Yeah, that's what I think.
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:56.800
Everybody in the state, I believe.
00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:58.400
Everybody's getting these same two questions.
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.400
So I don't know if do you want to take the lead on the next question?
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:03.840
For number two?
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:04.559
Yeah, number two.
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:05.280
Question number two.
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.880
Number two, I'll just I'll just read it real quick and then we'll just talk about it briefly.
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:16.559
But um, so question two Shall the city of Rochester ward one limit property tax growth for Rochester?
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:25.760
So I'm reading ward one's ballot, so limit property tax growth for Rochester School District SAU 54 under RSA 3251.
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:35.280
If adopted for a two-year period, the local property tax levy may not grow beyond the prior year's amount adjusted for inflation and new construction.
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:42.320
And number two, SAU central office spending may not exceed 6% of total school district appropriations.
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.719
And number three, bonded capital costs are excluded from both limits.
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:57.760
These caps only apply to the administrative operations of the SAU central office and do not affect classroom instruction, school-based services or other municipal expenditures.
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:07.920
These limits may be overridden as provided in RSA 325-I can't tell if it's I or one, but I I think adoption requires a three-fifths majority vote.
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.599
So basically, you know, put that in plain language.
00:57:09.679 --> 00:57:13.360
So that's a good way of like confusing people and being like, I don't even know what I'm voting on.
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:14.719
Right, because it's a lot of language.
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.400
It's it, you're right, it's a lot of language.
00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:16.880
Yeah.
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:40.719
And so basically, it's do you want to put a tax cap on um Rochester, you know, because you're voting, even though this is on the statewide ballot, every individual municipal or SAU, um, which we have our own SAU, so you know, some some municipalities have multiple, uh, they have one SAU has multiple municipalities in it, but Rochester is SAU 54.
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:45.119
Um, so in our SAU, everyone that votes in SAU 54 is voting for that.
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.280
So no matter what we vote, doesn't affect SAUs next to us.
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:50.320
It's very confusing.
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:58.239
It doesn't affect SU like whatever a Rochester from any ward goes in and votes, it'll be about Rochester's school district, SAU 54.
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:03.360
It will not matter to Dover, it will not matter to um Berlin.
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:05.119
You know, it's just Rochester.
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:06.239
It's town specific.
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:07.280
Same for them.
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:14.639
So whenever Berlin goes to vote, it's gonna matter for whatever SAU they're in, which is probably multiple municipalities in the same SAU.
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:20.079
Um, so most of those, but it will require three-fifths of Rochester residents to vote yes or no.
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:26.239
So, you know, whatever gets the three-fifths um majority vote is is what would make it happen.
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:27.920
Um, so what is it gonna do?
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:32.000
It's gonna put a tax cap on um our schools, right?
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:33.119
But guess what?
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:34.000
We already have a tax.
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:35.519
We have a tax cap.
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:36.559
We already have a tax cap.
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:42.000
And this says that the tax cap basically is is set on um inflation and new construction.
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:51.360
Well, we are we have a tax cap that's already set on inflation and new construction, plus um um uh inflation.
00:58:51.519 --> 00:59:01.039
It's it's it's set on um the value of new construction, which is the the um expected tax income from that, um times the rate of inflation.
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.480
So it's basically similar, it's extremely similar to what we already have.
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:16.400
I don't know the exact nuts and bolt details of it, but I do know that um city officials have been saying, like the superintendent has been saying that, well, our tax cap is already more restrictive than this would be.
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:22.480
Um so it's you know, it sounds like a moot point to us, I guess.
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:23.599
You know what you do.
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:39.599
So I think, you know, the way I'm understanding this, and when I'm reading it for myself and I'm not telling people anything about how to do it, it's like you're kind of voting on on principle, I guess, is like what you think is that because regardless of this decision, yes or no, it's not going to affect the tax cap that we currently have in Rochester.
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:40.719
We already have it.
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:47.199
Um, and I think there's a decent amount of um municipalities that also already have a tax cap.
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:52.960
Um, so they're probably in the same boat unless their tax cap is not as strict as this.
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.920
And so because this you'll basically default to the strictest one.
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.360
Um right, doesn't it to yeah, isn't it the most
stringent?
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.719
Whatever it will default to whatever the most stringent tax cap.
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.760
Yeah, and the other thing I think is important to remember is that, yeah, exactly.
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:11.119
Whichever one, whichever one, whichever one would be the least amount of money is the one that that you're gonna follow.
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:16.400
So, because you just have to, if this passed in Rochester, you'd have to meet this, but ours already meets it and exceeds it.
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:18.559
So it wouldn't matter.
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:19.840
That's what I'm hearing.
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:28.719
Um, but the other thing is this is only for two years, so you would have to vote on this, I guess, every two years to keep um every two years this has to be voted on.
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:30.320
It's only good for two years.
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.159
So um, and the other thing I just wanted to note was that same thing.
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:39.519
I don't know, and you probably know much better than me, um, being on the school board, but I'm sure you've heard it.
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:51.440
Um, that the uh the spending basically the uh cost of the administrative part of the SAU can't exceed six percent.
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:58.000
Um, I personally asked the superintendent um, you know, where do we how does that look for us and whatever?
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.559
And he said we're far below the six percent.
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.119
So, and I I don't know if you've heard the same thing, but that all issue for Rochester.
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:17.039
Yes, and I think if we're gonna um give some information for voters, it says the SAU central office spending may not exceed six percent of total school district appropriations.
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.360
Does that mean the total budget?
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:23.360
The total school budget that's you know, which means what, 78 million?
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.119
Yeah, yeah, right.
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:26.559
Yeah, 78 million million.
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:37.519
Yeah, and administration, the line item for administration or the line items for that that packet doesn't so we're looking at six percent of 78 million.
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:50.239
I'm assuming I don't know the exact I don't have the exact nuts and bolts and numbers, but um but um when we when we ask the the superintendent, and I think I've heard him say it at your meetings too, yeah.
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.960
Yeah, we're not near the six percent, so that's not a worry story.
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:53.199
Right.
01:01:53.360 --> 01:02:00.480
So I guess you know what I'm saying on this one is it's like a um the way I see it is you're probably voting on the larger concept of it.
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.079
If you know, if you want to make a statement of no, I'm opposed to this, you vote no.
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:10.159
I just don't from what I've heard, it doesn't yes or no, it's not gonna affect Rochester that much.
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:13.199
So um, you know, it's whatever.
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.559
You can also not vote.
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.320
I mean, you could you can just choose not to vote.
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:26.800
You can vote yes, you can vote no, or you can just not fill it out because the three-fifths, the three-fifths number isn't the total number of um, I think this was a clarifying thing that we had for the election session too.
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:34.320
The three-fifths number is not of all registered voters in your ward, it is three-fifths of people that vote.
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:35.760
So right, right.
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:40.320
Yeah, so you're not voting doesn't change that number if you just really don't care, too.
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:44.239
So it's like you could vote yes, you could vote no, you could not just not vote.
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.239
You know, right the rest of your ballot.
01:02:46.400 --> 01:03:02.239
Any one of these, if you vote wrong in that three person, um, where you pick three of the six for district 19 representatives, if you vote that one wrong and you accidentally fill out four, it's not gonna, you won't get any votes in that column, but I mean in that row, but everything else counts.
01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.639
Like who you voted for governor counts, how you vote in these questions counts, how you vote for Senate counts.
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:07.679
That also counts.
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:11.039
And then um the only thing is like on these two questions back here, yeah.
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.719
If you just choose not to answer either of them or both, or you want to answer them, whatever, it doesn't matter.
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:16.079
It doesn't affect any of our votes.
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:16.800
That's good to know.
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:35.039
It's really I would encourage people to just you know talk to people they know or you know, um, and just try to figure out where they want to vote on that one because yeah, my understanding and it's my understanding is that it is I just don't think it's gonna affect Rochester very much, which way you vote yes or no.
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:38.800
So we have a tax we have a we have a tax cap that's in place.
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:39.519
We have one, yeah.
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:40.639
We have we have a tax cap.
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:55.280
And so yeah, now I think that this is more for it's really this is aimed at SB2 um municipalities, which are ones that um SB2 towns are like where you have the um town meeting kind of thing, the structure where they go and they vote.
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:59.599
They don't really have a council that makes all the decisions, you know, or takes the votes and passes these things.
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:10.159
And so um this, I think really the legislation that put this on was probably aimed much more at those, but it didn't exclude
cities and towns that you know that have a council thing.
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:11.840
So it can be just confusing.
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:27.840
One of the things that I was reading, and I just want to touch lightly just because I am on the school board, so I don't want to sway anybody in any direction, but one of the things that I did read was one of the reasons behind the second part of this question, is so that administration doesn't get top heavy.
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.840
Um that's what they were hoping to do by that.
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:31.920
We're not near the six percent here.
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:32.320
Yeah.
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:37.519
Um and I guess the big argument, yeah, the big argument for that is like, you know, how is that affecting my kids in the classroom?
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:39.760
And you're just having more, and that's the argument or whatever.
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:41.840
So yeah, that's the rationale behind it too.
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:53.360
But the other thing to note, not really to this question, too, but I think in the last session, how um there was talk about trying to consolidate SAUs to do this same concept.
01:04:53.519 --> 01:05:04.559
So basically, like we have our own SAU, so we probably wouldn't change nothing for us, but it definitely would change nothing for Manchester and Nashville, I think, because they were specifically mentioned in the legislation as being their own SAU.
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:09.760
But they were going to combine SAUs so that like there was one SAU covering more municipalities.
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:15.599
That was another attempt at limiting the cost per administration because like this is not the way it was.
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:24.159
But let's just say, for example, you know, they would Rochester would maintain our SAU, but we'd also would have like, let's say, like Milton and Farmington or whatever.
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.519
And so now you just had less administrators per student, let's say.
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:31.840
If you did that's that was another way.
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:40.159
So yeah, that's something that obviously the legislature in the past uh couple years has been trying to that they think is an important thing to target.
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:45.440
So Mayor Grassy said we have not gotten a legal response to this question.
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.519
Um no one has defined what administration includes.
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:50.079
Yeah.
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:54.559
And there is so this language too, with the law, it is sloppily written.
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:59.840
I mean, it it it's like, you know, there's an office of uh it's called OLS or I can't remember what it's called.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:07.920
But you know, that writes these things that they, you know, like like uh representative centers will go and they'll get this leg they'll tell them what they want the legislation to be and they write it and stuff.
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:08.400
Yeah.
01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:11.039
And sometimes it's just really sloppy writing.
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:16.239
I you think they're doing it full time for a job, they would be it would be fantastic, perfectly clean.
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.159
But sometimes it's just sloppy.
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.119
Right.
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:24.000
And so yeah, and I think this is probably one example that it's just not clear.
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:32.000
And what'll happen with those, just like in the law, like when you're doing police work, um, is you have to kind of look at what the intent is.
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:38.559
So sometimes things are not 100% clear, and you have to look at what the intent was in the legislation, and so courts will decide that out.
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:39.760
So, yeah, right.
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:41.519
Office of legislative services, yes.
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:42.719
You'll hear OLS a lot.
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:52.079
Yeah, when you if you watch those, if you go online and watch those legislative meetings, state legislature, you'll hear OLS a lot, and they'll often complain about the language that OLS gave them.
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:56.960
That's yes, that's funny because one of the two pieces of legislation that I've put through.
01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:01.280
I heard the as uh things have to get changed so they're constitutional.
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:03.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:06.400
Sometimes it's interesting.
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:07.360
So it's interesting.
01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:09.840
That's a that's a very good word.
01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:10.719
Interesting.
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.800
So that question's at number two, it's a big one.
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.920
I mean, it's uh statewide, it really affects the state you're in.
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.320
I'm sorry, it really affects the SA you're in.
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:20.239
How you vote only affects the SA you're in.
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:25.519
Um, but I I see it for Rochester, it's just gonna be more of a a principled vote.
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:28.000
You know, it's like they don't think schools should have it, you know.
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.679
It would be a good way to voice if you don't think we should have our city tax cap.
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:33.039
Right, right.
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.400
But it's not gonna have any effect on it, it would have no effect on it at all.
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.679
But I mean, that's the kind of way that I think that's how I think people will vote.
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:50.880
Like I think, you know, if people are like I hate tax caps, they'll just vote no on this, and that's kind of but you know what what it actually has an effect on Rochester, um, what you think to me at least is unclear at this point if it'll do anything.
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:52.320
Okay, yeah.
01:07:52.639 --> 01:08:02.239
But like like Mayor Grassi says, if the interpretation of
administration is extremely broad and it covers so much stuff, there could be something on that.
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:07.599
But I I think, you know, I I think we'll just have to wait and see what happens out of it and and all that.
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:15.599
But yeah, for for Rochester, I think the fact that we've been operating under a tax cap, which residents that pay attention are well aware of it after our last budget round.
01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:16.960
Um right, right.
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:17.359
We do.
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:20.319
Yep, after the last budget, yes, definitely.
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.079
Um, and I just want to make it very clear that I'm on my own laptop.
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:34.319
This is my own, I'm disseminating this information, um, not in my official capacity, but um using my own technology and my own services and my own platforms.
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:38.079
But you're also not, you know, one thing we do here is you're not advocating.
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.520
Like we're not I'm not telling people how to vote one way or the other.
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:43.199
You can vote yes, that's great for you.
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:44.479
You can vote no, that's great for you.
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:45.840
You could not vote, that's great for you.
01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:46.960
Right, that's great for you.
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:55.760
Any of it for you thing that um we feel is important on this too, like in this talk, and what we're not like taking sides, you were not picking candidates or whatever.
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.800
It's very nonpartisan, it's just to get good information out there.
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:00.880
Opposite people, you know.
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:05.439
We but that's just yeah, that we're not sometimes sometimes voting can be confusing.
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:08.319
So I think knowledge is power and conversation is great.
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.359
It helps break down walls and helps people understand things.
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:17.520
And if we can get a better voter turnout or more community engagement and local governance, yay, great.
01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:18.319
Yeah, love that.
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:30.399
Yeah, I mean, some of the questions I got at the last the primary it's my first election being the ward moderator, and some of the questions I got from people because it all gets directed to me, you know, we're just like, wow, I can't believe they don't know that, you know.
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:31.600
But it's so yeah, it's great.
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:35.039
And they don't want people confused on what they're voting on or how they can vote.
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:36.720
Right, make it as clear as possible.
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:37.680
This is great.
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:41.279
Um, Mayor Grassy also said sometimes outside groups write the legislation.
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:42.079
That's so true.
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:43.039
It's so true.
01:09:43.199 --> 01:09:44.960
Yes, that can happen.
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:49.119
Um moving on to we did the main ballot.
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.640
So we're gonna move, I think we'll move kind of quickly through these because it's very redundant.
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.680
But I think it would be good just to like at least give a little purview.
01:09:55.840 --> 01:10:00.479
So if someone's watching from a different ward, they can kind of get a visual for what their ballot looks like.
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:00.800
Yeah.
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:04.960
Um, so on we're on um ward two now, it's the same thing.
01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:10.000
Governor, vote for one, United States Senator, vote for one.
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:17.600
Representative in Congress, vote not for more than one, executive counselor, vote for not more than one.
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:22.159
And we did a big thing on the executive counselor earlier, if you're just joining us.
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:40.960
Um, state senator, vote for vote for not more than one, and then state representative, Stratford District District 6, vote for not more than one, and then Stratford District 19, vote for up to three.
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:41.760
And it's the same.
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.239
Three will be, yeah, three will be elected.
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.039
Sheriff, um, what vote for one?
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:53.920
County attorney, county treasurer, register of deeds, register of probate, county commissioner.
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.720
Everything's the same as Ward 1.
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:05.920
You know, what one thing I was gonna say, again, I'm not supporting it, like not telling to vote for any candidate or whatever, but one thing I you know notice that the Cecil Abels is still on the this ballot.
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:14.720
So that's another another question people might have is so he withdrew, so can I still vote for him and he's still getting I you could still vote for him for sure.
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:19.520
I don't, you know, I just don't think that I I think legally he can't assume the office.
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:20.560
So uh right.
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.039
You're thank you for mentioning it because I was going to say that.
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:24.880
Yeah, so I I think that's the same thing.
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:26.560
So people that is a question people will have.
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:33.520
They're like, you know, if they're if they still if they pay attention, um, they'll know that oh he he withdrew.
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:37.680
But yeah, it's he withdrew after the filing period, I think, for for this and uh thing.
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:42.319
So my understanding of that one is yeah, you absolutely still can vote for him.
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.920
Um I just don't think it can legally happen if he won.
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.840
So it would be more of like a I think that would also be like more of like a statement vote.
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:50.560
Right.
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.199
Thank you for bringing that up because I was wanting to talk about it.
01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.760
I mean he he withdrew, so he said he didn't have meet the residency requirements.
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:02.800
So the only change will be the single seat state rep candidates, except for ward five.
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:06.880
As we're marching through these ballots, yeah, that will be the the only change.
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.800
So we'll bring up and again you have the same two questions, Ward Two.
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:11.279
Yeah.
01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:14.159
Um oh yes, this is a good point.
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.399
If he wins, there'll be a special election.
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:23.359
Oh, so is so they will have another, they can introduce another candidate to replace the Democrat?
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:24.000
Right.
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:26.720
Like I guess they would they would have another runoff, I guess.
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:27.439
But there you go.
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.359
Yeah, it's uh I that's confusing to me.
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:33.520
So ward three, this is what your ballot looks like.
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:46.319
Same thing that we've just run through with the first two wards governor, United States Senator, representative in Congress, executive counselor, state senator, um, your Stratford District 7.
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:49.359
Oh, and Mayor Grassey saying the seat will be vacant.
01:12:50.000 --> 01:13:03.199
Um Stratford District 19, vote vote up to three, sheriff, county attorney, county treasurer, register of deeds, register of probate, and county commissioner.
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:04.880
So same old, same all.
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:06.319
But this is what your ballot looks like.
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:08.079
And again, the same two questions.
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:09.760
So we'll take that.
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:11.359
Okay.
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.520
Now, ward four, this is what your ballot looks like.
01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:16.720
Same thing.
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:22.960
Um, I don't think we need to read through them because I think everyone's gonna be like, we totally get what you're saying.
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:25.279
We've heard it three times already.
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:28.000
So, ward four, this is just what your ballot looks like.
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:33.760
And on the back side, you're gonna have again the same two questions, everything's the same.
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.960
And then we're gonna go off to ward five.
01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:41.199
That's the different one, yeah.
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:43.279
Yep, and this is the different one.
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:58.000
So again, we have governor, United States Senator, representative, and Congress, executive counselor, state senator, state representative, Stratford District 2, vote for up to three.
01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:01.920
And that's where the change is, correct?
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:05.359
Because I see there's just only one going on.
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.960
They also don't have, hold on.
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:21.119
Well, I guess there actually there is a difference between um um the state rep uh district for ballots four um I'm sorry, three and four.
01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:34.239
Right, because three, three is um, so one, two, and three have are for district um I'm sorry, district five, right?
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:36.399
No, one and two are for five.
01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:41.279
It's hard for me to get it because it says at the top, so I'm trying to figure out which ward I'm looking at.
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:48.800
One and okay, so it's basically that district varies for some.
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:56.479
So I mean so if you go back, so for ward one, it was the candidates were it's the same position, just different candidates.
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:58.079
So right, right.
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:59.680
Yeah, basically what I'm saying.
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:04.800
So people pay attention if they were looking at the ward six ballots, not the same people, but those people change, same position.
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:06.479
Yeah, same position, different people.
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:12.640
Yeah, which is which is same type of position, but for it representing a different district.
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.079
Just like this, that's why I say it, because it represents like this ward five.
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:19.680
Just the same side of your district two that votes for three people now.
01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:25.039
So and then again, your backside ward five, you're looking the same.
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:33.520
We're all the same on this, and then um we'll just move on to ward six, just so we can get a visual.
01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:35.840
They all look kind of the same here.
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:37.439
Ward six, here we are.
01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:40.560
Our ward, we're ward six, ward for sure.
01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:41.920
Let's go.
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:43.840
Yeah, I think I'm trying to think.
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.800
Um so yeah, our ward population size for the city is the smallest.
01:15:49.520 --> 01:16:06.159
And um and we so proportionally we have the smallest turnout, but the percentage is close to the higher ones, but certain wards, I think ward one and five possibly have the highest turnouts usually or have recently, I think.
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:12.319
Um I can't remember what the exact ones were, but is it because we can we um we could we take up some so much commercial space?
01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:14.479
Like part of our ward is commercial instead of the side.
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:20.239
Yeah, we're just we're just yeah, we're in a denser yeah, so area-wise we're kind of small, but but uh yeah, but we just I don't know.
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:22.239
We have the smallest population size.
01:16:22.319 -->
01:16:27.920
It's not incredibly small compared to, you know, they're all very close, but if you're looking at the exact smallest, we're the smallest.
01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:30.159
Which which means we generally have the smallest turn.
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:37.279
I think total number of voters at the primary don't quote me on the exact number, but I think it was like 715.
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:39.439
I think that that was it.
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:41.760
So pretty small.
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:46.720
This election next week will be much higher than that, but 715.
01:16:48.159 --> 01:16:48.720
Right.
01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:51.680
I'm pretty sure that's the total number of people that voted.
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:52.640
So it's very close.
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:54.319
Wow.
01:16:55.039 --> 01:17:00.000
Um so here we are, same kind of thing, running through.
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:01.680
It's all the same.
01:17:02.239 --> 01:17:05.199
Yep, and it's uh the original three from the first one.
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:06.399
Yep, yep.
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:07.760
So it's all the same.
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:15.920
Um so this is all let's see, Mayor Grassey said all wards need to be close in number of voters.
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.000
So we're relatively number of registered voters distributed, yeah.
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:22.720
Important important uh term there.
01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:33.119
The number of registered voters, not the number of voters, because yeah, we have we have a lower turnout than um than the other wards and we did in the last one.
01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:38.800
But yeah, they're trying to make the number of registered voters very close, but we're the smallest, so right.
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.079
Um I hope this has been helpful to people.
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:45.600
And I just have one, I don't want to put you on the spot, Counselor Sullivan.
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:57.119
But where you're the ward moderator, do you have any helpful tips or have you come across any questions that people have asked that you thought, oh, this might be a good piece of information?
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.680
Bring your ID for sure, right?
01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:01.760
Yep, you should definitely bring your ID.
01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:03.840
I mean, um, yeah, there's certain rule changes.
01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:10.479
I wish I had them off the top of my head, but like you can't use a student ID anymore for ID, like that's one.
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.119
Um as you have more rentals and more six.
01:18:13.279 --> 01:18:16.319
Um, yeah, you can't use a student ID anymore for that.
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:29.680
Um, but really the bottom line is like we have a supervisor of the checklist there and stuff, and like we're trying, if you are able to vote, like you qualify and you meet all the requirements to vote, we're trying to make it so that you can vote.
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:35.520
So there's like, you know, um, if you forgot your ID, but
you're on the registered voting list.
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:42.880
Um, if somebody there knows you, like, like let's say it's my neighbor who lives right next door, and I talk to them a hundred times, let's say, um, I know exactly who they are.
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:53.600
I can sign an affidavit that says this person forgot their ID today, but I can 100% tell you that that is who this person is, and they are on the registered voting list.
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:55.039
So we can fill out affidavit.
01:18:55.119 --> 01:19:07.359
So what I'm saying is like if you get there and you forgot something, um people there are gonna try to make it so that you can vote, um, and not make you have to run home and get your ID and stand in line again.
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:14.159
Um there are there are ways that we can make that happen, but there's rules, so we have to follow the rules and all that stuff.
01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:16.319
But yeah, any big things that happened last time?
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:32.319
No, I will say that last time in the primary, one of the biggest um complaints, um, like where people just got really upset, was they were registered as one party or the other as a Republican or Democrat, and they wanted the other ballot and we couldn't give it to them.
01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:37.920
And so they were really mad, and some people just like st stormed, like stormed out, they were not happy.
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:41.600
Um and so that I can see why they're disappointed, because they didn't get a vote.
01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:46.640
So uh they didn't get a vote for who they wanted to, but that's because that.
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:54.239
So I guess the takeaway from that is New Hampshire does give you the opportunity to um register as undeclared.
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:08.000
And um, so to do that, you would have to remember after a primary, which hopefully you already did, um, you would then go back to the counter uh the table, I mean, after at the end and sign the book that says I want to go back.
01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.720
Because when you take a ballot for, let's say, the Republican.
01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:12.880
Right, you have to sign it.
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:13.279
Yep.
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:14.000
Yeah, yeah.
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:19.279
So you don't have to worry about that this time because it's a general election, everybody's getting the same ballot.
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.600
But I mean, so that was like the biggest one from the last one.
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:28.159
People were were pretty upset about that, and it happened not a ton of time times, but you know, a handful of times.
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And some people took the other ballot anyway and then voted, but some people just refused to vote um because they didn't want to vote on that ballot that they um were registered for.
01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:39.680
So that's the best thing.
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:44.560
But no, I don't think I mean no, it's you
can't be electioneering in the polls.
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That's one of the moderators' jobs.
01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:53.840
So you can't wear um, it's not a it's not an election for a national, but you can't wear like vote for Trump shirts into the thing.
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.199
I mean, that's not this election, so right.
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So nothing that has candidates on the front.
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.960
But right, yeah, but you can't be electioneering for any candidates, anything like that.
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:06.159
So um right.
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:08.000
Yeah, um that's a big thing.
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:10.800
So just can people register to vote right right there?
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:13.039
You can register at the polls, absolutely, yeah.
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:14.000
What do they need?
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L ID?
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:18.640
Um, the rest of the check is yeah, there's um couple things you need.
01:21:18.720 --> 01:21:21.600
I mean, but it really to be safe, you should bring extra stuff.
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:29.039
So, like a lot of times I recommend like you could bring a passport, you could bring an ID, you can bring mail with your name and address on it.
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.119
Um, like utility bills are a good one.
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:36.960
Like, if you get, I know see mail becoming, at least at my house, a lot less common because everything's done paperless now.
01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:41.600
So, but um, yeah, if you have you need proof of residency, an ID is a good one.
01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:45.359
Um, passport is a good one, a social security card maybe, but I don't know.
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:51.199
There's a list on the um city website you can find that tells you like what you need to register.
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:54.319
But when I do those kind of things, I always bring more.
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:55.199
Right.
01:21:55.279 --> 01:22:00.720
Just so I remember I I moved so with the last um national election.
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That line was so long out the door.
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That was a big old line.
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And people were being turned away and they were so unhappy, but they were like, We're sorry, these are the rules.
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So go online, make sure that you've got more than what you think you need.
01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:20.720
I don't think the lines will be as long this time just because it's not a national election, which is sad.
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:21.520
It's not the problem.
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If you're advocating for local governance, get out and vote this week.
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:34.399
Yeah, and this one will have more than the the than like the city council and school board ones, because there is you know, there are federal, you know, U.S.
01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:36.159
senators and and reps on that.
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:38.640
So you yeah, that's what okay.
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.359
That's what that was my understanding, Mayor Greg.
01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:43.279
We're talking about cease the labels again.
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:44.239
This is what we're talking about.
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Like how um he withdrew.
01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:50.399
Yeah, you can't legally take office and then James Gray will win the election.
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:52.560
Because New Hampshire doesn't have a minimum vote, you know.
01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:56.239
Some states have like you need to get blank percent of the whatever thing.
01:22:56.479 --> 01:23:08.239
So I I kind of feel like to and I like said my expert on this, but I kind of feel like if um in that particular race, if James James Gray got one vote and C labels got all the other votes, I think he still would win James Gray and take the office.
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:13.680
So you know, but that's a good, you know, if you have that question, you're at the polls and you're wondering how to vote, you could ask that question.
01:23:14.159 --> 01:23:14.560
That's a good one.
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:15.920
You know, we'll have a good answer on that.
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:22.399
I'll I'll check with the city clerk to get the exact answer on that one too, because that is a good question and that will be in every ward.
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:24.560
So um, yeah.
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:27.680
So I was trying to think um before that one was um, yeah.
01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:36.319
My other advice too is if you're gonna register at the polls on the day of the election, if you can, I would just go early and that way go first thing, get in, whatever.
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:43.600
And if you don't have the stuff you need, like then because they do try to there are like options of what you can have and things, then you can go home and get it and try again.
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:45.760
Like yeah, before it closes, right?
01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:47.760
Yeah, that's a good idea.
01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:57.279
And um, our location, we're ward six and we vote at the elks, but there's a list on the city website, yeah.
01:23:57.520 --> 01:24:00.399
Rochester.gov.
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:00.800
Yeah.
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.640
Rochester was a New Hampshire, because we have lots of Rochester's.
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:08.880
I apologize, but I I can link it in the post when I do when I post the replay.
01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:10.319
RochesterNH.gov.
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:19.199
Rochester NH.gov, because we don't want to do like New York or Minnesota or it's easier to find the polling places that um than it is to find the sample ballots on the website.
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:20.159
Oh, okay, great.
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:20.319
Yeah.
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:25.520
Ward six, if you're listening, you are at the Elks Lodge.
01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:26.079
Yeah.
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:27.039
Right downtown.
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:28.159
So it'll be fun.
01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:28.880
I'll be there.
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:32.640
And we and Councilman Sullivan.
01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:33.439
He listened.
01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:37.840
If you want to go see Councilman Sullivan, that's where you're gonna find him.
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:38.159
Yeah.
01:24:38.399 --> 01:24:40.399
At the he's gonna be the moderator all day.
01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:46.560
So if you want to chat, if you have any if you have any ideas for future community conversations, you can chat him up.
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:49.760
He'll be there for chat and selfies, whatever works.
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:51.199
I can't.
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:53.119
I don't know if you do selfies.
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:53.760
I was just kidding.
01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:55.359
But if you want a selfie, yes.
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:57.279
You definitely could do it.
01:24:57.439 --> 01:24:59.520
Whatever whatever it's gonna take to increase that vote, right?
01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:00.239
Like that's right.
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:01.199
We get everybody out there.
01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:06.319
Mayor Grassi said, I think it was 27 point something or right in that range.
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:10.399
Yeah, let's see if we can get it to like 35.
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:11.520
Oh, that'd be good.
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:12.079
Over 30.
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:12.960
More than a third.
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:14.960
More than yeah, more than 30.
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:16.479
Let's go.
01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:17.439
We can do it.
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:20.159
Let's get together and let's try to try to do that.
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:23.600
So I hope everyone has found this helpful.
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:27.359
We've got a little longer tonight, but I think it was really good to talk this through.
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:31.920
Um, and then if you're watching the replay, thank you to those again who are watching the replay.
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:32.800
Thanks for doing that.
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:36.159
So you can ask questions because that's what I want.
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:38.720
Yeah, councilman Sullivan, he wants questions.
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:48.720
So if you're at the um polls next week and you run into him, make sure we bring up questions to him that we can ask and have a good discussion on the next show.
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:50.880
So I think we're coming back next Monday.
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:52.479
I have to confirm a few things.
01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:55.920
Um it's the night before we vote, so we can run through a few things again.
01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:00.960
And then I think that will after next week, that'll wrap up our our voting series.
01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:06.159
And then we'll go back to normally we've been doing them once a month or once every six weeks.
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:14.000
So I think, especially with the holidays coming, um, and I hear that budget season's coming earlier this year.
01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:22.640
So with all that going on, um, after we are done with our voting bonanza, we'll go back to the once a month or once every six weeks.
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:28.000
Um, and just real quick, someone mentioned to me that I have a lot of coffee makers behind me.
01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:29.760
You are right, I do.
01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:31.039
I have lots of them.
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:33.279
And I'm a good hostess.
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:35.039
I take care of you when you come to my house.
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:37.119
So I don't know if you want espresso.
01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:39.359
I don't know if you want Keurig.
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:45.439
I don't know if you want an espresso, or if you want traditional drip, and I also have a mocha pot.
01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.960
If you're Italian and you want, we do it right.
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:56.239
So that's why someone made note there's lots of coffee makers behind me, and that is why.
01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:05.760
Um, Mayor Grassi also noted that tonight was the chamber candidates forum, which will be rebrought rebroadcast as well and be on the government channel.
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:06.800
So that's good to know.
01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:08.000
Yeah, I was gonna bring that up.
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:09.439
It just it just ended.
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:11.920
Um, I had it playing on the television in the room.
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:16.239
Um, yeah, it just ended, so because it was on started at six, but it went at the same time as this.
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:18.319
But yeah, people should definitely, that's a great way.
01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:20.479
We told you about what the positions are.
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:34.239
Yes, great way to hear what people who are running for those positions have to say and what they you know, how their their um uh opinions or their intents, if they assume office, relate to the you know, to the people they're running against.
01:27:34.319 --> 01:27:37.359
So I think it works well with our conversation tonight.
01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:43.840
You can you find out what the positions were this evening, and now go watch that forum to see who's running for those positions.
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:49.279
So hopefully you get a little bit of knowledge's power this evening, and as always, a great conversation.
01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:53.760
Councilman Sullivan, thank you for for doing the heavy lifting this time and doing all the talking.
01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:55.119
And you did great.
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.439
Thank you, Mayor Grassi, for joining the chat.
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:00.800
We love having your nice I love the comment box.
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:04.319
We um we love that.
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:09.760
We I love Mayor Grassi's input that he's got a lot of years behind him of local governance.
01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:16.399
So it's good to just disseminate great information and thank you for to everyone who is watching, watching the live.
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:18.560
And if you're watching the replay, thank you.
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:20.960
And hopefully you found this informative.
01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:22.000
Yeah, thank you.
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:22.960
Yeah, thank you.
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:25.359
So everyone have a great evening.
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:29.920
Tomorrow's gonna be chilly, so bundle up, and the cold weather is coming.
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.479
I'm sad to think the warm weather is.
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:33.680
I don't want winter, yeah.
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:35.760
But I'd love to see everybody at the polls next week.
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:36.319
Let's do it.
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:38.800
Yeah, we're gonna do everybody at the polls, everybody at the polls.
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:40.239
So let's try to get to 30%.
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:41.520
Let's try, let's do it.
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:43.680
So awesome.
01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:47.039
Okay, you you guys have a great night, and we'll see you next week.
01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:47.920
All right, bye.
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Thank you.
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Bye bye.