What We Build Now
We Found Each Other. What We Build Now
The season four finale. Charlene names what four years of this work has actually taught her, and retires the framing the show started with. Compassionate capitalism served its purpose. It no longer fits what this work has become.
The 5Cs remain, but the word…
See You September 5th
Season four closed with a three-part series that asked more of us than most of what came before.
Before diving into what's next, we're taking a short, deliberate pause. Three weeks, no new episodes, back on September 5th with a brand new season five, a fresh focus, and guests you haven't heard ta…
The Hill I'll Die On
Season Five of the 5Cs Podcast opens with the story behind the line you've heard at the end of every episode for four years: the only thing we can do is do better, for the highest good, for all.
This season the 5Cs get a new order and a sharper edge: Clarity, Courage, Commitment, Compassion, Colle…
This Mine is Sacred
This is the first episode of When the Land Talks Back.
Nicola Robins was auditing a diamond mine in northwestern Australia when she heard a voice that had no business being there. It told her the land was sacred, and that nothing could justify what was being done to it. She is a Yale-trained sci…
The River. Not the Bridge
Last episode, Nicola Robins spoke about how a health crisis sent her into four months of training in Ngoma, a South African knowledge system. This episode picks up where that left off: what happened when she tried to bring it home.
It took her years. Not because the knowledge wasn't useful, but bec…
The Next Right Step
Nicola Robins has walked us through a mine that spoke, a body that wouldn't let a strange experience go, and a hard refusal to be called a bridge between old knowledge and new. This episode brings it home to the question business people actually ask: does any of it work?
Her answer isn't a case st…
What Happens When You Stop Looking With One Eye Closed
Series: The Other Eye Episode: What Happens When You Stop Looking With One Eye Closed
We have more data, more frameworks and more leadership development than at any point in history. The problems keep getting bigger. What if the issue isn't what we know, but the lens we're looking through?
Ryan Jam…
Hearts Only Have One Colour
Series: The Other Eye Episode: Hearts Only Have One Colour
Indigenous elders are famously careful about who they share their knowledge with. So what made them trust a finance graduate from Boston?
Ryan's answer isn't about anything he said. It's about how he showed up: curiosity with no attachment …
The Elephant Isn't the Problem. The Room Is.
Series: The Other Eye Episode: The Elephant Isn't the Problem. The Room Is.
Business runs on three-month cycles. Decisions, budgets, performance reviews. The problems we're facing run on centuries. That gap is why climate science hasn't moved most business leaders.
In this episode, Ryan gives his …
Introducing The Stewardship Table
Introducing The Stewardship Table. It's Time I Put My Money Where My Mouth Is
For four years, this podcast has been about a better way to do business, climate and leadership. In this solo episode, Charlene stops talking about it and builds it.
Most of the tools that help people speak honestly, list…
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