Fuld transskription af Episode 114: The False Alien Invasion

proposal involved making it seem that a civilian passenger aircraft had been shot down by Cuban fighter jets. 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:23.839 Another involved creating an incident with an American ship and blaming Cuban forces. 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:31.040 There were also proposals involving staging attacks around Guintamino Bay and apparent Cuban terrorism. 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:37.040 The idea was to generate public outrage and create justification for military intervention. 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:43.040 The passenger aircraft proposal is the one that stands out because they actually described how the deception could work. 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:51.519 Okay, so a civilian aircraft carrying passengers would be secretly diverted to safety, while an unmanned duplicate would continue along the original flight path. 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:57.360 Then over Cuba, the drone would transmit a distress call claiming it was under attack by Cuban fighters. 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:02.560 The aircraft would be destroyed, and anyone hearing the transmission would think innocent civilians had just been killed. 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:22.160 I'll tell you though, what's disturbing is the reasoning behind it. 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:27.360 Initiating military action was the objective, and the attack would provide the justification. 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:35.360 They weren't trying to persuade the public that intervention was a good idea, but proposing to create circumstances in which people would demand it. 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:36.399 Which is wild. 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.879 And these weren't ideas invented decades later by conspiracy researchers. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:44.319 They appeared in actual military memorandum. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:51.199 Now the proposals were never carried out, but the fact that they were formally considered is like remarkable in itself. 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.160 So this raises a question about how much information people need before they make a major decision. 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:04.240 If the public believes an attack occurred, the emotional reaction can begin long before an independent investigation establishes what happened. 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.480 Now, like change the enemy. 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:19.920 Instead of Cuba, imagine the public is told that humanity is facing an intelligence from another world, technology we don't understand, weapons we can't defend against, an enemy that might be capable of destroying entire cities. 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:23.519 How would an ordinary person even begin to evaluate that threat? 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:29.040 Well, you depend heavily on the information being released by governments, military officials, and scientists. 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:34.959 And if officials claimed the evidence was classified, people might have very little information to examine for themselves. 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:35.519 Right. 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:48.480 So suppose these same officials announced that survival required extraordinary changes to our society, new laws, new military authority, restrictions that would normally cause enormous controversy. 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.439 Would people insist on debating every measure? 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:57.040 Or would they be so frightened that their first concern was simply making sure their family survived? 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.279 Personally, I think you'd see both reactions. 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:00.079 Probably, yeah. 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:04.399 Yeah, because you some people would demand immediate protection, others would want proof. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.160 But then the thing is, there could be serious tension between both of those groups. 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.920 But even a short period of fear could have consequences. 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:13.199 I mean, just think about it. 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:19.360 And there's an incident that demonstrates just how quickly a population can react to a threat that doesn't actually exist. 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:20.160 Good point. 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:21.040 Let's talk about that. 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:21.360 Yeah. 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:31.360 So on January 13th, in 2018, in Hawaii, just after eight in the morning, people across the state received an emergency alert warning of an incoming ballistic missile. 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.240 And the missile ended with four terrifying words. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:36.319 This is not a drill. 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.480 I mean, imagine reading that. 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:46.879 You got kids at home, your family scattered across the island, and suddenly you're wondering whether you have only minutes left to live. 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.160 People desperately tried to contact their loved ones. 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:51.759 Families search for shelter. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:52.879 People were freaking out. 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.199 I mean, some people believe they're about to die. 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:56.079 But guess what? 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:57.120 There was no missile. 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.839 The warning had been sent in error. 00:07:59.920 --> 00:08:05.600 And it took approximately 38 minutes for the official correction to reach people through the emergency alert system. 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:10.480 Can you imagine 38 minutes of genuine fear over an attack that wasn't even happening? 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:15.199 I mean, that just sounds like when I wake up in the morning, 38 minutes of genuine fear. 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:20.319 And during those 38 minutes, people weren't thinking about politics, right? 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.959 They weren't, they were just thinking about survival. 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:28.319 Now imagine that uncertainty lasting days instead of just like 38 minutes. 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:32.480 Imagine officials claiming an unknown intelligence might attack at any moment. 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:38.480 And imagine being told

that your family's safety depends on accepting emergency measures immediately. 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:44.240 But you know, there's an enormous difference between an accidental warning and an organized deception. 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:49.279 Convincing the world that an alien invasion is happening would be much bigger operation. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:50.240 It would. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:59.440 But here's the question Would the people responsible need the deception to last forever or only long enough to accomplish what they wanted? 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:01.759 So, Frank, let me ask you this. 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:09.039 Does knowing that Northwoods was proposed make you like more skeptical of government claims? 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:10.080 Yeah, it does. 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:14.080 One thing that comes to mind is the 9-11 controversy. 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:18.159 There's a lot of people out there that think the government had something to do with it. 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:18.480 Right. 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.200 So yeah. 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:26.000 You know, we could go to war and Bush could get his revenge on bin Laden for trying to kill his father. 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:27.279 Remember that? 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:27.840 Oh, yeah. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:28.879 That comes to mind. 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:30.799 I personally do not believe that. 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.080 That's my personal belief. 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:33.919 I don't believe that the government did that. 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.080 I think it was a terrorist act. 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:36.399 Right. 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:41.039 But there's a lot of people I know that believe the government set this whole thing. 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:42.559 It was all staged. 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:43.120 Yeah. 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:45.840 Which would fall right into line with the Northwood. 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:46.879 Yep, exactly. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:47.679 What about you? 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:48.960 Let me ask you something. 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:49.440 Sure. 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.879 Could fear make you accept something you would normally oppose? 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.440 I mean, yeah, I think I it has. 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:57.519 I'm thinking back to it. 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:14.480 I think during the pandemic, if you told me like 10 years ago that we'd all be walking around with masks over our face and not being able to walk the same way down a grocery store aisle because another person was going to be walking down that way, and you only one person go down. 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:20.000 I mean, all that we just blindly accepted because you go out to dinner with your wife, right? 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:20.399 Right. 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.480 You got to put your name, your address, you got to give them all this personal information. 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:25.600 Fill out waivers. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:26.320 Exactly. 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.639 Which I never understood the whole restaurant thing. 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.399 Wear the mask until you get to your table, you know, then take the mask off. 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.480 Because the virus goes, Oh, wait a minute. 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:34.799 Hold on. 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.519 The virus says we're only gonna go like 12 inches. 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.480 Yeah, and they're eating, so we'll just we'll chill out. 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.360 And as soon as they finish that last bite, all right, I'm coming. 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.480 I remember one time I had to get an MRI during time. 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:46.960 Oh, yeah. 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:48.799 And you know, have you ever had an MRI? 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:49.360 I have, yeah. 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:51.120 So you know how it right up to your nose. 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:51.679 Oh, yeah. 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:53.360 It's a bit claustrophobic. 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.600 It is, but it doesn't normally bother me. 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.360 But then they told me I had to wear the mask. 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.679 And I said, Well, why do I have to wear the mask? 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:01.039 I'm the only one in this room. 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:02.000 Yeah, it's true. 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.960 And they were like, Oh, for you know, future patients. 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.799 And I was like, All right, let's give this a shot. 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:07.840 That was just me. 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.879 I put the mask on, they put me in the in the tube. 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:15.360 Within two minutes, I started freaking out because I had a hard time breathing with the mask on. 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:20.399 And it's already so thing is like two inches from my face, I'm hitting that button, right? 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.200 And I said, Can we just do it without the mask? 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.120 She said, Nope, you don't have a choice. 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:28.159 You either put the mask on or we don't do the MRI. 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.960 So, me, me being me, I was like, All right, let's give it one more shot. 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.519 And as I went in the tube, I took my upper lip and started pulling down on the back. 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.080 I pulled all the way down. 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:39.840 And I was like, No, they're not checking. 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:40.799 They're not screw you. 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.159 How are you gonna see me? 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:46.559 And then I did the whole MRI thing, and at that point, they already did it, so what are they gonna do? 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:57.039 Right, wow, or the other thing that's funny with the whole mask thing is walking on the trails, you go for a walk, yep, and somebody's driving by on their bicycle with the mask on. 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:08.879 And I'm like, Well, I didn't know that the virus could chase you, yeah, you know, a quarter of a mile, and

you're booking by 10, 15 miles an hour in their car, windows rolled up with the mask on. 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:12.480 Yeah, I mean, fear made yeah, by themselves with the mask on. 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:15.200 So that there's there's a lot of fear in that one. 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.559 Yeah, I mean, we could go on and on with the craziness that if you look back on, you're like, this is just ridiculous. 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:25.360 And especially first month, we blindly accepted a lot of it. 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:29.360 Yeah, well, everybody was just spoon-fed this information, right? 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.639 And we didn't know how to react, just like what we're talking about here. 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:33.440 Yeah, exactly. 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:35.200 Josh, I think it's quiz time. 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:36.399 Oh boy, here we go. 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:42.240 Did you know there's a supposed operation that would manufacture an emergency to change how the entire world was governed? 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:48.320 Uh yeah, actually, and the name attached to it has become infamous in UFO conspiracy circles. 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.240 It's called Project Bluebeam. 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:51.840 Jeez, I can't believe you knew that. 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:53.679 I was gonna say, do you want to phone in a friend? 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.360 And you want to ask the audience? 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:56.639 You knew it! I knew it. 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.960 All right, well, since you know, why don't we talk about it? 00:12:59.120 --> 00:12:59.840 All right, let's do it. 00:12:59.919 --> 00:13:05.759 So in the 1990s, a Canadian writer named Serge Monist began publicizing a theory. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:23.840 He claimed powerful organizations were preparing a worldwide deception using advanced technology, a series of events designed to undermine humanity's most deeply held beliefs, and ultimately persuade the population to accept an entirely new system of authority. 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.120 The alleged operation was called Project Bluebeam. 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.159 And Monas' claims went far beyond flying saucers. 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:41.360 He described enormous projections appearing in the sky, religious figures protesting in front of massive crowds, and technology that can make people believe they were receiving messages from a higher intelligence. 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:50.559 Can you imagine witnessing something you genuinely believed was supernatural, something that challenged your understanding of religion, science, and reality itself? 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:56.720 According to the theory, those events would create confusion on an unprecedented scale. 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:01.600 People would begin questioning the institutions they trusted their entire lives. 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:10.559 And in the middle of that uncertainty, a new authority would emerge, promising answers, promising stability, promising protection. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.159 Yeah, well, that would assume everybody would interpret the events the same way. 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:22.480 A religious experience that convinces one person might look like a technological trick to somebody else, and this could end up creating more division, not less. 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:28.559 Which brings us to the alien invasion element that became so prominent in later discussions of Bluebeam. 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:33.279 An extraterrestrial enemy wouldn't belong to one country or one religion. 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:44.240 It could be presented as a threat to every human being on Earth, something so powerful that our existing governments and militaries might supposedly be incapable of defending us. 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:53.840 And in that situation, people could be told that national interests would become secondary to humanity's survival, that countries would need to cooperate under new security structures. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.039 But who would control it? 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:55.759 That's the question. 00:14:55.840 --> 00:14:58.720 Who would decide how much authority it had? 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.159 Those are the questions that make the theory unsettling. 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:19.919 Because imagine a population being told that conventional defenses are useless, that the enemy possesses technology thousands of years beyond ours, and that the only possible response requires and demands cooperation, resources, and government authority. 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.799 How many people would be willing to accept that? 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.279 Yeah, I'm not I'm not convinced the world would respond the way the theory assumes. 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:33.440 Countries might suspect one another of developing secret weapons, governments would withhold intelligence. 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:39.120 Some people would believe the visitors were peaceful, and then others would insist the invasion was a complete hoax. 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:44.879 Yeah, and that uncertainty could become part of the problem because now nobody agrees about what's happening. 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:46.879 Meanwhile, decisions have to be made. 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.480 But the people making the decisions would still have to explain them, right? 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:51.039 Yeah. 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:56.240 And you can't claim that the world is under attack indefinitely without eventually producing some type of evidence. 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:57.039 You'd have to. 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.200 And maybe the original deception wouldn't need to last indefinitely, though. 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:06.799 What if its purpose was simply to create the conditions under which certain decisions became possible? 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:20.960 Such as so expanded military authority, new surveillance systems, basically restrictions presented as necessary for national security, powers that might have been fiercely opposed before the

crisis. 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:30.080 And if the public genuinely believed humanity was in danger, some people might support those measures, others would want to know why each restriction was necessary. 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.320 But think about the position that places families in. 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.240 You're told an intelligence from another world might destroy your city. 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.039 Then you're told the government needs more authority to protect you. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.639 You're being asked to make decisions about freedom while fearing for your life. 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:50.000 Which means the emotional pressure could influence decisions that normally would require serious debate. 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:54.559 And there's another element that makes this theory especially interesting today. 00:16:54.720 --> 00:17:02.159 When Manas was making these claims, manufacturing convincing images on a massive scale seemed like something out of science fiction, right? 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:09.440 But now artificial intelligence, good old AI, can produce recordings of events that never happened. 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:09.920 Right. 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:13.119 Imagine seeing footage of an enormous object over a military base. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.640 Then another video showing fighter jets pursuing something they can't identify. 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:22.960 That's something we also see already. 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:28.319 Right. 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:30.720 Nobody knows which recordings are authentic. 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:35.119 And while the public is trying to make sense of it, hey, which one's true, which one's not? 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.440 Emergency measures are introduced. 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.920 The government claims the threat is real. 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.720 Officials insist extraordinary action is necessary. 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:46.319 I mean, but somebody would eventually do demand physical evidence. 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.759 A convincing video isn't going to be proof of an actual spacecraft. 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:52.000 And that's the weakness in the idea. 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.160 But suppose the confusion lasted long enough for major decisions to be made. 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:01.920 By the time the recordings were exposed as fabrications, the political consequences might already be real. 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.039 And the people responsible would be taking an enormous risk. 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.079 If they were exposed, it could destroy their credibility and careers. 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.279 Unless they believe the rewards outweighed that risk. 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:20.319 And I think this is where the an alien invasion theory becomes generally disturbing because the people supposedly orchestrating it wouldn't need to conquer humanity. 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.440 They'd be trying to convince humanity to accept their authority. 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:28.160 Hey, hey, hey, hey, no, hey, hey, no, hey, I have something to ask you. 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:28.799 What's that? 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:32.160 Would an alien threat bring humanity together or divide us? 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.279 But now I think it would divide us way more. 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:40.720 I mean, we are already so divided as a society right now, which is really sad, honestly. 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:48.079 But I think if something happened, the positive side of me wants to believe that, hey, it would bring humanity together. 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:50.880 Hey, but honestly, I think it would divide us. 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:52.240 I think it would divide us even more. 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.319 Just look us politically. 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.000 We're so tribal, and I just think it would divide us. 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:02.480 Well, do you think rival governments would cooperate or would they withhold information? 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:04.559 Ooh, good question. 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:05.519 Let me think about that. 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:06.240 Let me sit on that. 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:06.720 What do you think? 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:09.599 Do you think they would cooperate or do you think they would withhold? 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.119 I think they would withhold information. 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:12.640 They've been doing it forever. 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:13.759 Why would this stop? 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:14.160 Right. 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:17.599 Even with humanity at stake, it still would stop. 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:27.200 I think they would cooperate on a small scale, but for big information, you're gonna think we still want to control the world, we still want to be the superpower. 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:27.680 Yeah. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.039 And I think for the important things, they would withhold the information. 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.200 Yeah, that's that's probably accurate. 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:34.880 I'm trying to imagine it right now. 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:42.960 There's a big alien spaceship in the sky, and everybody is talking to each other, all the countries are talking to each other. 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:50.799 They would probably like show that they were being cooperative, but in the back end be like, we ain't telling them shit. 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:51.359 I know. 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:52.160 And you know what? 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.240 There's something else about this alleged plan. 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:55.359 Suppose it worked. 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.480 You know, suppose the public accepted the new laws, the restrictions, the expanded powers. 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:04.880 Eventually, the supposed alien threat would have to disappear. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.240 And then what would happen? 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.880 Yeah, I mean, imagine the government announces that the objects have withdrawn. 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:12.559 The immediate danger's

over. 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:13.680 Over, rover. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.839 People are relieved, paying no attention to that person behind the curtain. 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:18.400 Hey. 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:26.480 But officials warned that nobody knows whether the objects will return tomorrow, next year, or 10 years from now. 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:35.680 Yeah, so dismantling the new security systems becomes a difficult political decision because there's nobody that's going to want to be responsible if another emergency occurs. 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:37.519 And then years will pass. 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.759 The spacecraft are gone. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.400 The public has stopped looking towards the sky, but the surveillance remains. 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:46.480 The emergency legislation remains. 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.680 The institutions created during the crisis are still operating. 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:54.799 And at that point, people might not even associate those institutions with the original emergency. 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.960 It would simply just be a part of ordinary life. 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:57.440 Right. 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.920 Like just like taking your shoes off because of everything that happened with 9-11, right? 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:02.720 You still do that. 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:03.920 Hey, this is what we do. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.759 Well, before we get on, it's a part of it. 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.640 And that's the possibility that interests me most. 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:14.400 What if the success of such an operation had nothing to do with how many people believed in aliens? 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:20.960 What if success meant creating society that had become accustomed to powers it once would have rejected? 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:23.119 There's a major obstacle there, though. 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:28.000 A deception of that magnitude would require some serious secrecy, right? 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:28.400 Yeah. 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:38.079 You'd have independent scientists, you'd have rival governments, military personnel, ordinary witnesses that would all have opportunities to expose it. 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:42.000 Which brings us to the question we've been building toward. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.720 We know the Northwoods documents exist. 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:48.400 We know a false warning in Hawaii caused genuine panic, right? 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:48.640 Yeah. 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:53.440 And we know convincing digital media can now be manufactured easily nowadays. 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.319 I mean, that's already happening with AI and social media. 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:57.119 Is this real? 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:57.759 Is it not real? 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:59.440 And then you check the comments, it's AI. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:00.400 It's AI. 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:01.920 I kind of thought so. 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:09.279 But is there evidence connecting

any of those things to a secret operation designed to fake an alien invasion? 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.920 See, that's where I think the story begins to change. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:19.359 Because when you investigate the origins of Project Bluebeam, you discover that its bizarre claims rest on little verifiable evidence. 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.960 There's something strange about Project Bluebeam, though. 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:23.680 Yeah, I know. 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:28.960 Like for decades, people have discussed it as though it were an established secret government operation. 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:38.799 You can find elaborate explanations of its supposed technology, descriptions of the different stages, predictions about a coming extraterrestrial deception. 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:44.079 But when you trace those claims back to the origins, the trail becomes surprisingly thin, dude. 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.119 Because so much of it leads back to Serge Monest. 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.400 His writings in the 1990s established the theory. 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:55.599 But describing a secret program isn't the same thing as demonstrating that it exists. 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.440 And that's where the problems begin. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:16.720 There are no publicly authenticated operational documents establishing that the worldwide program Monest described, no verified command structure, no demonstrated technology capable of producing the global effects attributed to Bluebeam, and no evidence connecting any government to a plan to stage an alien invasion. 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.279 There's also the problem of scale. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:24.799 Imagine the number of people who would have to be involved in creating and maintaining a deception like that. 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:35.440 You got military personnel, you have government officials, technicians, intelligence agencies, and potentially several governments that don't even trust one another, right? 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:39.519 So how could you prevent all those people from exposing the operation? 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:49.279 Well, you'd still have the independent observers, astronomers, the pilots, scientists, people with cameras, the manufactured event on that scale would be difficult to conceal for long. 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:49.759 Yeah. 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.000 Then there's the technology itself. 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:57.279 Manus described capabilities that haven't been demonstrated on the scale his theory requires. 00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:09.359 Today we can manufacture convincing images of spacecraft, but there's a huge difference between putting a fake object in a video and creating something that appears physically real above an entire city. 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:10.799 And there's another problem too. 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:11.200 Uh oh. 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.920 So as technology advances, people keep attaching new developments to Bluebeam, right? 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:16.480 Right, yeah. 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:23.440 Such as, like we said, AI-generated videos, unexplained lights, government announcements about UFOs. 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.200 That's like what's going on right now. 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.400 It's Blue Beam. 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:26.880 Right? 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:32.960 I mean, every couple months now we're getting a little trinkets from the government, these little videos. 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:39.200 So, you know, almost anything unusual can become another supposed sign that the operation is underway. 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:44.319 But none of those things establish a connection to Manas' alleged program. 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:54.400 And that's an important distinction because sometimes you can have several genuine facts that seem to support an extraordinary story until you examine whether they're actually connected. 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.480 Look at the evidence we discussed tonight. 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.519 Operation Northwoods was real, but it wasn't carried out. 00:24:59.599 --> 00:24:59.759 Right. 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:02.559 The Hawaiian missile alert happened, but it was an error. 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:08.720 The AI-generated media can be deceptive, but that doesn't mean somebody is creating an alien invasion. 00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:13.440 Those facts tell us something about deception, uncertainty, and fear. 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.599 They don't prove Project Blueberry. 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.960 And I think that's where this theory begins to like unravel. 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.119 The individual pieces are intriguing. 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.000 Some are like genuinely disturbing when you think about them. 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:30.400 But the evidence connecting them to one enormous coordinated operation simply it just it's not there. 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:31.599 It hasn't been established. 00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:33.920 There's a trap people can fall into here. 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:39.440 Once you become convinced a secret operation exists, everything starts looking like evidence. 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:40.000 Oh yeah. 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.799 If officials deny it, people call it a cover. 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:43.359 Yep. 00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:47.279 If nobody finds documents, the documents must have been destroyed. 00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:51.119 If the technology hasn't been demonstrated, well, it's classified. 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:55.759 At some point, what evidence would ever convince you the theory was mistaken? 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.400 And if nothing could change your mind, you're no longer investigating the claim. 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:01.680 You're you're defending it. 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.880 But I don't think we should dismiss the entire conversation because the theory raises a legitimate concern. 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.960 Even if central allegations remain unsupported, how much authority

should people accept during a crisis? 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:21.119 How do we make sure the powers introduced during an emergency don't continue after they're no longer justified? 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:30.160 I think the most interesting thing we've uncovered tonight isn't like evidence that somebody is preparing like a fake alien invasion. 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:39.759 It's the documented fact that senior military officials once considered manufacturing incidents to achieve a political and military objective. 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.400 That history deserves like attention on its own. 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:51.519 But it should also remind us to apply the same scrutiny to everybody government officials, the whistleblowers, the conspiracy researchers, hell, even ourselves, right? 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.359 Especially when a story is so compelling that we want to believe. 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.599 Which I am very guilty of. 00:26:58.160 --> 00:26:58.799 What we all are. 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:04.079 And maybe the real world is more complicated than the theory suggests. 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:17.440 Not one secret organization controlling everything, but governments with competing interests, institutions making mistakes, people exploiting uncertainty, and sometimes genuine events that nobody completely understands. 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:23.920 Which can be more unsettling than the idea of a master plan because it means there isn't always somebody in control. 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:31.279 So, Frank, let me ask you: does everything that happened with Northwoods make you more willing to consider conspiracy theories? 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.039 Let me back up for a second. 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.920 How about we drop conspiracy theories here and use the word speculative narrative? 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:39.200 Okay, I like that. 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:46.559 Doesn't sound so corny and the attachment to the words conspiracy theories over the years, people just dismiss it automatically. 00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:46.880 Yeah. 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:47.680 Gotcha. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:53.200 So to answer your question, yeah, I am more willing to consider the speculative narrative. 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:58.079 You know, governments have outlined a way to deceive the public with Northwoods, right? 00:27:58.160 --> 00:27:58.400 Mm-hmm. 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.519 What other things could they have considered that we don't even know about? 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:02.480 This is true. 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:07.279 There could be a lot of things that actually are underway now that we have no clue about. 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.680 We're just living our lives and they're like, this is coming soon. 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.319 Yeah. 00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:16.720 Let me ask you, do you find the truth sometimes less satisfying than the mystery? 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:17.920 You know, it's weird. 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:21.519 I find that to be the

case in most certain things. 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:28.880 I I remember hearing somebody say something one day, and they were like, Nobody wants to know the truth because the truth is boring. 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.440 And that can be true or not, but a lot of times it kind of is. 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.119 It's just like, oh, this happened. 00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.720 Oh man, this event happened, and man, it was unfortunate. 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.680 And not this grand speculative narrative that came out because of it. 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:53.599 Maybe just really the truth is not as exciting as this whole, you know, speculative narrative that we said, like something just randomly happened. 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.480 And you know what? 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.160 There's one final thought I want to leave you with. 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.880 So we've spent tonight talking about the possibility of manufacturing an alien invasion. 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.559 But perhaps the most disturbing consequence wouldn't be the deception itself. 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.240 It would be the world left behind after everybody discovered the truth. 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:08.880 All right. 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.960 So imagine 20 years have passed. 00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.359 The emergency broadcasts are long gone. 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.200 Nobody has seen one of those supposed alien spacecraft in years. 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.440 And eventually, the truth comes out. 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:21.279 The invasion never happened. 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.079 The threat that changed the world was manufactured. 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:25.920 You definitely expect outrage. 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:33.279 You'd expect investigations, people demanding accountability, and demands to reverse the measures introduced during the emergency. 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.240 But could everything simply go back to the way it was? 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:42.160 The surveillance systems, the institutions created during the crisis, the laws that had been passed. 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:43.920 I think some could be reversed. 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:52.640 Others might have become so deeply embedded in society that people disagree about removing them, especially if they've spent years believing those measures were keeping them safe. 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.160 Now, imagine a little boy growing up in that world. 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.839 A boy who wasn't even born when the supposed invasion happened. 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:05.519 To him, the checkpoints are normal, the surveillance is normal, the restrictions are normal. 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:07.680 He's never known anything different. 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.119 One day he asks his father why they have to live this way. 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:16.079 And his father tells him about the terrible threat that once came from the stars. 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:21.279 The fear, the emergency, the measures that were needed to protect everyone. 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:28.559 The boy grows older, he learns about the supposed evasion, and eventually he discovers something his father never knew. 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.720 There had never been an alien threat. 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.599 The entire emergency was manufactured. 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.000 And one day, he goes back to his father. 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.440 He asks him a question. 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:38.720 A simple question. 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:40.960 One, his father doesn't know how to answer. 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:46.079 If the aliens were never real, why are we still living like they were? 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.000 Dude, I gotta tell you, tonight's episode. 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.759 I don't know, there was a lot to think about there. 00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:50.559 Yeah. 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.960 Because I think some of it holds some truth about what we're going through today. 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.799 Yeah, with everything that's going on. 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.680 So I think it's time to segue into our mailbag! Mailbag! Mailbag. 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:02.720 All right. 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.200 I am going to start first this time. 00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:05.680 Okay. 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:06.319 Here we go. 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.000 This one comes from Julian. 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:09.119 I like that name. 00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:09.759 Julian. 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:10.480 Here we go. 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:11.119 Hi guys. 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:20.640 I'm wondering what your take is on all the high government officials coming out with stories about seeing NHI and non-human craft like David Grush and Jay Strapp. 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.000 Yeah, that's a good one. 00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:22.640 Yeah. 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.119 Also, a follow-up question to Josh. 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.200 Your interview on last week's episode was very good. 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:40.720 And I am wondering when your guest said there was two hours of unaccounted time, if this incident happened to you, Josh, on a scale of one to ten, how much do you think your ass would hurt when you came to? 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.839 And would you wish there was another two hours of unaccounted time? 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:52.559 Um so how much would my ass hurt on a scale from one to ten would be an 11. 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:55.839 And in a good way, would it hurt or just hurt? 00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.599 In a good way, Frank. 00:31:57.839 --> 00:31:59.279 Oh, the best way. 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:06.160 And then um I would say, um, I would want more than the extra two hours. 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:07.680 That that would be my response. 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.559 A week of unaccounted time and bliss. 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:12.000 Uh, but thank you, Julian. 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.960 That was uh thank you for the um the questions. 00:32:15.119 -->

00:32:17.279 Uh also I got wait, I gotta come clean. 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:18.720 I actually wrote that second part. 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:19.759 Oh, you did. 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.359 I don't want Julian to get mad at me. 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:26.160 Okay, he actually wrote the first part asking about the government officials coming. 00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:26.880 Yeah. 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:28.480 I just like to watch you squirm. 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.119 You definitely got me to squirm there. 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.519 Uh so what do I think about them coming out and saying the non-human intelligence or the entities coming out? 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.200 I think they're preparing us for something. 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.039 That's my genuine belief. 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.680 I think they are preparing us for something, which is weird. 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:48.640 We just did this crazy episode and it kind of segues into that, but that's my gut reaction. 00:32:48.880 --> 00:33:00.640 So you think they're actually preparing something, or do you think it's more obfuscation where they're doing this while they're doing other things that really matter to them and we are just distracted by all of this? 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:04.480 I could see where you would think that, but I think they're preparing us for something. 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:13.519 I just honestly think this is just leading us up to something that might be super crazy, and they're just kind of preparing us so we don't freak out. 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.119 Desensitized, basically. 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:15.680 Exactly. 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.119 I just had to say that because I know Julian was like, hey, I wrote this question. 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:20.880 I didn't write that second part. 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.480 Where the hell did that come from? 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.559 Okay, so I picked this one out of the mailbag, and the reason why I picked this one is it's a little crazy. 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.720 Um, but I I was laughing, yeah. 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.680 So the kids say cray cray. 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:36.960 This is this is it. 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:37.759 All right. 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.759 Hey Frank, specifically you, Josh can sit this one out and go be a cuck somewhere. 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:44.960 This is what he said. 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.559 You seem crazy like me, Frank, in your weird little way, but the good crazy. 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:58.799 Last Tuesday at 2 17 a.m., I saw a triangle craft do a little wobble and shoot off over my backyard. 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:05.920 Right after it left, my phone unlocked itself, and a text from a number of all zeros came through. 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.079 It said, Tell Frank the hummingbirds are not hummingbirds. 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:11.679 Then it deleted. 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:18.239 So, Frank, are the hummingbirds, the actual scouts, like not real, but watching

us? 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:22.000 And if I put out sugar water, I'm just reading this. 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:26.239 Am I being friendly or basically RSVPing for an abduction? 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:31.199 My wife already thinks I'm crazy and I've got my kids' soccer tournament next weekend. 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.239 Thanks, Dave. 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.360 And then he puts in parentheses, also, not my real name. 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.039 I'm not telling you fuckers now. 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:40.880 That question was just so weird. 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.639 I'm trying to even wrap my head around it. 00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.679 He's trying to ask, like, do you think birds are real? 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.079 Are hummingbirds like actual scouts, but not uh like roting us? 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.800 I think that's what it the point of that was. 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.760 And he thinks that it seems like it. 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.360 I mean, he said he's got a text. 00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.840 Tell Frank the hummingbirds are not hummingbirds. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.599 Oh, specifically to me. 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:02.000 Yeah. 00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.840 I didn't realize that was that freaking important that I would actually get a message. 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.760 This guy seems like he's got a crush on you. 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:08.320 I'm not gonna lie. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:08.960 He might have to tell us. 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:10.960 You know what? 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.840 I didn't get I didn't get the I didn't get the memo on that one. 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:15.760 So what do you think? 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:18.159 Do you think uh hummingbirds are actual scouts? 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:19.360 Do you think they're real? 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:20.320 Do you think birds are real? 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.039 I think is what he's I I don't think birds are real at all. 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.360 I honestly think that they're scouts. 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:33.679 I think any flying object is there to survey us, and it's scares the crap out of me every time I see something fly by. 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.079 You hear a tweet, you shake in your boots? 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:47.519 I am even a fly, like a fly can be a miniature in a microphone, listening to everything I say, because what I say is so important to the world that I know that I'm constantly being watched. 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:48.880 I'm being watched right now. 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.719 In fact, every time I turn around, I feel like there's something behind me. 00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:53.920 There's something watching me. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.360 And you know what else I think, Josh? 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:55.920 What's that? 00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:56.800 My shadow. 00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:57.440 Uh-oh. 00:35:58.159 --> 00:35:58.880 It's always following me. 00:35:59.119 --> 00:35:59.840 It's following you, isn't it? 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:00.719 It's always following me. 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:01.199 It's a shaking. 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:02.320 I get so scared. 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.360 I get scared. 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.400 I got so scared. 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.599 I was walking down the stairs and my shoes, they fell off. 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.000 They fell off all the way down. 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.920 And I got hurt, and I got so hurt, not physically, but emotionally. 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:14.960 Emotionally hurt. 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.239 Emotionally hurt. 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.679 Well, I think that uh answers your question, Dave, or whatever your name is. 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.400 And that's all we got for you guys tonight. 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:30.079 So remember, if you liked the show, please like and subscribe and send us more mail. 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:31.599 We love reading your guys' mail. 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:36.400 Send us all, we read all the comments and all on the social media that you guys leave us. 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.400 And that's all we got for you guys tonight. 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.039 And remember, keep the truth beyond.