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Hey kids, it's story time! This is John Fulbright.
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Hi, this is Dara Williams.
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Hi, this is Mitch Margo of the Tokens. Hi, this
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is Gary U.S. Bonds, right here on the Rock and
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Roll History Show. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Rock
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and Roll History Show on Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz.
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This week, We felt it was appropriate to alter our
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planned schedule and pay tribute to Dolly Parton like everybody
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else has been. Everything about her has been all over
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the news. Her biography, her backstory, all that stuff. And
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I think it's true. She's probably the last person that
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everybody loved across the board. So there's not a whole
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lot we can add to that. But being the Cranbones...
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We're going to move a little bit left, a little
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bit right of the mainstream and see where our tribute
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to Dolly Parton takes us. But before we hop in,
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as always, allow me to introduce the Cranmums joining us tonight.
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First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory, he just learned
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how Dolly Parton kept her pool clean. Chlorine, chlorine, chlorine, chlorine.
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Neil Richter is here.
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Oh, I'm diving into that one. Into the deep end.
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And how you doing, everybody?
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And from Paranormally Yours, this week, she saw Trump, J.D. Vance,
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and Dolly Parton walk into a bar. The bartender said, wow,
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check out those boobs. And a country music star.
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Yep.
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Kale Newcombe is here.
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Yep.
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Hey, all.
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Mercedes is out sick, and I wasn't going to let
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that go to waste. I don't think I've ever seen
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Gail walk into a bar, but we'll make it happen
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one of these times. One of these times. One of
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these days. And our officially retired teacher, he found out
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that the only key Dolly Parton couldn't sing in was B-flat.
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John Kelly is here.
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Oh, boy.
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Oh, wow. That's good, Brian.
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That's good.
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How you doing, everybody?
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How about that?
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And last but not least, the host of Shaving Cream.
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Last night, she and two friends watched Dolly Parton movies
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back to back. Luckily, she was the one facing the TV.
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Barb reveals.
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Good one, Brian.
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Hey, everybody.
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All right, good to see everybody. Yeah, poor Mercedes is
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under the weather. Like, can't even sit up kind of
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under the weather.
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Oh, no.
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We wish her well. She'll be back on her feet
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and walking into a bar soon enough. Um, so yeah,
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I think, why don't we just hop right in and, uh, Gail,
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why don't you lead us off tonight? Okay.
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Um, as Brian said, all the biographical stuff has been
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all over the news. One thing I would like to
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say about Dolly Parton is she's one of the few people,
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few celebrities and few people in general who used her
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powers for good instead of evil. And yeah.
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Yeah. Um, what an amazing woman. A lot of people
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don't have empathy anymore, but through her charity work, um,
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obviously she was just a very caring person and the
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world will miss her, I think. So I chose a
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song off of her last album. Um, Her last album
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was called Rockstar, and it was her 49th. Four, nine,
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that's a lot of albums, studio albums. And it was
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released on November 17th, 2023, by Butterfly Records and Big
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Machine Records. The album is a collaborative project with a
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whole bunch of different rock musicians, and that was... her
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only album-length step into the rock genre. It came about
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because Dolly Parton was nominated for the Rock and Roll
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Hall of Fame in 2022, and initially she declined the
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nomination because her background was in country music, not rock,
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and she didn't feel that she qualified for So she
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declared her intention at that point to record an album
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of rock covers with a host of musical guests from
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rock to justify her inclusion.
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Didn't they tell her that whether you decline it or not,
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you're getting voted in?
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Probably.
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Probably. Some of the people who she worked with on
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this album were Ann Wilson, Rob Halford, Nikki Sixx, John Five,
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She did a version of Let It Be featuring the
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two surviving Beatles members, Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr, and
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Linda Perry from Four Non Blondes. And that's the song
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I chose for this episode. They did together the song
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What's Up, which was written and originally sung by Linda
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Perry as the lead singer of the American rock band
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Four Non Blondes. when Four Non Blondes came out with
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their debut album in 1992, which was called Bigger, Better, Faster, More.
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That's what that song was on, and it was released
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as a single in 1993. So let's listen to the song,
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and then I just have one or two little things
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to say.
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All of these years and my life is still Just
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trying to get up that great big hill of hope
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For a destination I realized quickly when I knew I
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should that the world was made up of this brotherhood
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of man. For whatever that means.
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And so I cry sometimes when.
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I'm lying in bed just to get it all out.
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What's in my head now?
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I'm feeling a little peculiar. And so I wake up
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in the morning and I.
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Step outside and I take a deep breath and I
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get real.
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High and I scream at the top of my lungs,
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what's going on?
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And then I say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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I say, hey, what's going on?
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Then I say, hey.
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What's going on?
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And I.
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Try.
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Oh, my God, do I try. I try all the
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time in this institution.
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And I pray. Oh, my God, do I pray. I
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pray every single day for a resolution.
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And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
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Just to.
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Get it all out, what's in my.
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Head And I, I'm.
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Feeling a little peculiar.
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And so I wake up in the morning and I
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step outside And I take a deep breath and I
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get real.
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High And I scream at the top of my lungs,
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what's going on?
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And then I say, cry I.
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Say, hey, what's going on?
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And I say, hey.
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Hey, I say, hey, what's going on?
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Then I say, hey, yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, yeah. I say, hey.
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What's going on?
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Then I say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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I say, hey, what's going on?
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After all these years, my life is still trying to
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get up that great big hill of hope. For a destination.
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Great song. Great cover.
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That's one of those catchy songs that everybody likes. Yes.
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You know, very simple, straightforward. I can see why she
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picked it.
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I was saying off air just now that my neighbors
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probably hate me because yesterday when I was trying to
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decide what song to pick out, I listened to this
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one to, you know, see if it was what I
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wanted to use. And here I was with my windows
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open singing this at the top of my lungs. So
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my neighbors probably hate me, but I can sing on key. So, right.
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And you probably had no bears going through your garbage
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at the same time.
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So that's, we only, we only had a, Oh, I
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should tell the new neighbors this. We only had a
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bear once. a couple of years ago during the summer.
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Was he carrying a picnic basket? No.
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Okay.
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Hey, boo-boo.
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So back to the Rockstar album. It received generally positive
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reviews from music critics. Commercially, it debuted at number three
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on the Billboard 200. That is not bad. selling 128,000
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equivalent album units in its first week. It became Dolly
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Parton's highest-charting studio album, as well as topping the country
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and rock albums charts. That's pretty amazing. It just shows
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you her fan base and how well-loved and admired she was.
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Yeah, the fan base is everyone.
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Yeah, I don't think there's anybody out there who doesn't,
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you know, have a respect and enjoy her music, even
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if you don't really know that much about it. It's
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very distinct and it's very classy, I guess is another
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way to describe it.
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You know?
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Exactly. I was going to say that personally, I don't
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really know that much about her musical career. You know,
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I know it's vast. I just never really paid attention.
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But I did know that She was just like an
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exemplary human being as far as her generosity. And she
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got it right as far as I'm concerned.
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Yes.
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She got it right.
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She walked the walk.
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Yes, she did. Yes, she did. All right. Excellent lead off.
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We're going to take a real quick break, but we
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have lots more coming up. So stick around. We will
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be right back. Hudson River Radio.
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Your dog likes us.
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This concludes the first part of this cassette. Please turn
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is HudsonRiverRadio.com.
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And welcome back to our Remembering Dolly Parton episode. John,
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we're up to you. Okay, everybody.
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For my selection, I had to really give this some thought.
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You know.
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Dolly Parton was an amazing person, larger than life in
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many ways, a real classy woman, a wonderful musician, and
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everything about her exudes a level of classical sophistication to
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a certain degree, I think. Her music is so well-known.
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Everybody knows it. Everybody hears it. So what I tried
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to do was find something a little out of the
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realm for Dolly Parton. And like everything we do here
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at Hudson River Radio, I tried to dig a little deeper,
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as they say. And I went for something that she
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did when she was a teenager before she was famous.
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And before she was famous, when she was a teenager,
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she actually recorded two songs with her uncle, Billy Owens,
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or Bill Owens, in 1959 and 1960, when she was
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like 13, 14 years old, 15, whatever it was. And
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neither song was very popular. They basically were played in
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the Nashville market. They were formally released as singles on
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his own label, his own record label. And they never
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got traction. But when you hear either song, you will
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instantly recognize it for who it comes from. And that's
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what I wanted to play. That when you hear the song,
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in my view, you can hear who Dolly Parton will become.
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when she becomes famous. And you get the very beginnings
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of this song, which wasn't very popular when it came
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out in 1960. The track I'd selected was So Little
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I Wanted, So Little I Got. It was recorded in
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1960 with her uncle, Billy Owens. She was about 14
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or 15 at the time. So we're talking early high
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school when this came out. And you can hear her
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voice here and you can just hear someday this woman
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is going to be famous. So Brian, why don't we
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just play it and then we can talk a little
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bit about it after the fact.
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So little I wanted So little I've got Just a
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little attention Is all that I wanted Just a few
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kind words.
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But I got disappointed.
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Just a little bit of loving would sure help a lot.
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So little I wanted, so little I've got.
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So little I.
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Wanted, just a smile.
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Just to be around you That's not asking.
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So little of.
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Your time you spend with me. So little of happiness
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I ever see. I'm getting no sleep, and you're the
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reason I'm not.
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So little I wanted, just a smile and a kiss
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So little I asked for, but I got even less
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Just to be around you, that's not.
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Asking much.
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So little I wanted, so little I got. That was
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one of two Dolly Parton recordings from those early years
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when she was a teenager with her uncle, Billy Owens,
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who was her mentor through her early career. And apparently
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somebody she cherished but didn't talk much about. And he
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only died in 2021 at the age of 85. So
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he was actually a young uncle. He wasn't that much
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older than her.
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So these two, this song, So Little I Wanted, So
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Little I Got, was one of two. The other was
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Puppy Love, and they both have this basic theme of
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disappointment in love, just some irony. Both of these songs
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were her basically building her career, building her brand, building
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her style, basically. And from what I found about it,
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and while neither song became well known or even a
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hit at all, they were the framework and the building
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block for who she became. And that is why I
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enjoyed this particular selection, because it goes back to the
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early days of who this woman, not who she was,
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but who she wanted to be. I'll leave it at that.
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That's cool. I had no idea about her uncle. I
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didn't know anything about him. I'd never heard of him before.
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Yeah, Billy Owens, her uncle. And she did this one
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and that other one, Puppy Love, which both of them
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were the same style of song, that kind of longing
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for love and that rejection and giving everything into everything
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and then not getting much at all in return. which
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is ironic because both neither song was very well You know,
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I mean, I guess it was well received to a
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certain degree for the audience in the Nashville area in
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the 19, you know, 59, 1960, 61 timeframe. But it
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just never took off. And it was slow and it
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was kind of twangy. But again, she was what, 13, 14,
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15 years old.
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So she's. The way they recorded it was getting out
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of fashion by that point, too. Yes. This was when
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the strings were coming in and things were starting to
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get lush and more complex and layered and all that.
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And they were just two people and a guitar.
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Yeah, that was pretty much it. Two people and a
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guitar with some recording equipment.
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Down there in Nashville.
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But what a voice.
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And you can hear that. You know, when you hear
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it now, I mean, it would be interesting to kind
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of go back in time and to hear this without
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knowing who she became.
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You know, but knowing who she became and you can
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kind of listen to this, you really get a sense.
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For what she was building.
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When you hear in that early track, you can hear
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the beginnings of what she became. And that's what I
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enjoyed a lot about it. So I hope you all
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out there enjoyed it. And maybe this will entice you
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to do a little more research, not into the modern stuff,
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but into where she came from and a little bit
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about her family. This guy, Billy Owens, her uncle, who
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basically went and did this duet and helped her in
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these early years. you know, early high school years of
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Dolly Parton.
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Yeah, I honestly didn't know anything about him. I think
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we all know her family history, growing up poor and
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all that, you know, but I didn't know about this uncle.
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Yeah, some poor high school kid, you know, her uncle said, hey,
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recognize the talent?
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And probably was just playing some guitar with her one
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day and says, you know, we ought to record this.
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And it never took off. It never became a big
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thing for her.
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It was a good start. Yep.
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It counts.
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Yeah, it does.
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It does.
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So I think I enjoyed it for that and for
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that alone. So hope you all enjoyed, folks. And Dolly,
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may you rest in peace. God bless.
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Yeah, it was a good one.
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All right.
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Thanks, John. Neil, we're up to you.
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Right. Well, Dolly Parton originally wrote and recorded the song
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I Will Always Love You in 1973 and released it
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the following year. She wrote the song as a farewell
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and thank you to her business partner and also another mentor,
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Porter Wagoner, after she decided to pursue a solo career. Now,
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Wagoner was an accomplished singer-songwriter and a TV star in
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his own right, and Parton had appeared as a regular
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on his TV show for seven years. Now, it's said
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that Dolly sang the song for Wagoner, and when she finished,
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he was in tears. He was just overwhelmed. And he
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told her, quote, That's the best song you ever wrote.
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You can go if I can produce the song. And
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he did, and the song was a huge hit for Parton.
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It reached number one on the U.S. Billboard Hot Country chart,
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not once, but twice. Yes, first when it was released
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in 1974, and then again in 1982 when it was
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re-recorded for the soundtrack of the film That's Little Whorehouse
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in Texas, which I'm sure we'll talk about that in
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a little bit.
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Maybe.
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That is, though, a rare distinction indeed, having a hit
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twice with the same song. But
wait, there's more.
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There's more.
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The best is yet to come. In 1992, Whitney Houston
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recorded an arrangement of I Will Always Love You for
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the film The Bodyguard, in which she starred... along with
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Kevin Costner. And needless to say, the song was an
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enormous worldwide success. That's putting it mildly. It sold over
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24 million copies, and it reached number one on 34
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different singles charts. 34 different charts, it was number one.
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Wow.
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That's impressive. Houston's version stayed at number one on the
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Billboard Hot 100 alone. For 14 weeks. Number one for
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14 weeks. Just that chart. And that was a record
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at the time. Now, for her part, Dolly Parton earned
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over $ 10 million in royalties. Just from Whitney Houston's version alone.
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Wow.
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In 1992 alone. One year, one song that she just wrote,
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in this case, $ 10 million.
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Mm-hmm.
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That's mind-blowing to me.
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It is. Make sure you want to stop the show
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and go try to write something.
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One song, that would be enough for anybody. Anyway, now
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those royalties contributed to Parton's overall net worth, which she
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went about and invested in lots of different charities. Now,
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in this case, in part, to an office complex in Nashville, Tennessee,
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located in a predominantly black neighborhood. Now, she referred to
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it and affectionately referred to it as the house that
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Whitney built. And she saw it not only as a
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tribute to Whitney Houston, but it was also an investment
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in the Nashville community. So that was along with all
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the other extensive charity work that she had done. including
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the Imagination Library and the Dollywood Foundation. And I know
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there's a lot more. So if you know any, please
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chime in.
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She did the buddy program to keep kids in school.
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Started with middle school kids. They had to partner up
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with somebody and encourage each other to get through high school.
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And if they graduated, they got $ 500 each. Every kid
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that graduated got $ 500. And the dropout rate went from
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35% down to 6% in Sevier County. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And,
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you know, when COVID hit, she donated a million dollars
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to Vanderbilt University for vaccine research.
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Wow.
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Without even thinking about it, it seems like. Wow.
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Well, this is what I say. She got it. She understood.
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She was quiet. You know, she was one of those
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people that just quietly contributed.
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Oh, there's so many that we don't even know about. Honestly,
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Elvis was like that, too. There's so much stuff that
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he did that we... still probably don't know about, but yeah,
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she did a lot behind the scenes. And, you know,
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she was already taking credit for it when it came
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to light, but she wasn't looking for the credit.
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Right, right. It just, you know, like I said, she
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got it right. What else can you say? Now, the
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song I Will Always Love You was recorded by many
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other artists as well, including Linda Ronstadt, Kenny Rogers, Leanne Rimes,
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and It's even said that Elvis, Elvis Presley, had an
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interest in perhaps covering it. I don't think he did.
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He wanted to. You know why he didn't? I don't
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want to step on your story.
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If you haven't. No, I would love to know why.
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Colonel Tom Parker said, yeah, Elvis will do it. Elvis
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wanted to do it, but Elvis only records things if
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he gets half the publishing.
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Oh, boy.
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And Dolly, in her very polite way, told Colonel Tom
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Parker where he could stick something and get the song
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for herself. But supposedly Elvis actually sang that to Priscilla
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the day of their divorce as they were walking out
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of the courthouse. That is the story that Priscilla has told.
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Even if it's not true, it's a great thought.
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I hope somebody had a little tape recorder.
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I'm guessing it may have a little embellishment there. But yes,
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Elvis actually really did like the song, and Parker's the
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one who interfered.
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Well, that doesn't surprise me either. But so needless to say,
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there have been a lot of different cover versions of
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this song. But I don't think any cover quite compares
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to this one. Ladies and gentlemen, I give to you
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Me First and the Gimme Gimme's rendition of I Will
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Always Love You.
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Always So I'll go But I'll know I'll think.
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Of you Each step of the way And know We'll.
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Always love you We'll always love you Bittersweet Memories.
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That's all I am taking with me.
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Goodbye. Please don't cry. We both know.
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I'm not what you need. We'll always love you. We'll
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always love you.
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I hope life treats you kind.
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And I hope that you have all that you ever
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dreamed of.
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And I wish you joy.
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And I wish you happiness.
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But above all of this, I wish you happiness.
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We'll always love you.
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We'll always love you.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, and I love that version of the song, too. Now,
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I don't think that version made $ 10 million. I would
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be surprised if it made $ 10, but I think it's awesome.
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It bought a lot of coffee for at least five people.
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Maybe even a donut. They might have had to share it.
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Which is still better than anything I've written, so I'm
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not knocking anything.
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Anyway, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes formed in San Francisco, California,
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back in 1995. So they've been around for a while now,
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working exclusively as a cover band and specializing in rapid-fire
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punk interpretations of songs from a wide range of musical genres,
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and usually and often with a humorous edge. And they
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also were known to incorporate
riffs from classic punk rock
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songs themselves into their performance. Now, the Gimme Gimmes are
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what you might call a punk rock supergroup, if such
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a thing is even possible. Because they've had sort of
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a fluid and rotating... roster of musicians throughout their career,
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including Fat Mike from NoFX, Chris Shifflett from the Foo Fighters,
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and C.J. Ramone from... Oh, yeah. C.J. Ramone from the Ramones.
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They've all been among the band's many, many members. Now, incidentally, though, recently, C.J. Ramone...
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has performed with another punk supergroup, although this might have
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been a one-off, that included Billy Joe Armstrong of Green Day,
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Tim Armstrong, no relation, from Rancid, and Travis Barker from Blink-182.
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And that was put together to commemorate the 50th anniversary
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of the release of the Ramones' debut album. Now, it
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happened out in Los Angeles at Hollywood Forever Cemetery, actually,
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Which makes sense because there are two of the Ramones
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are interred there. Johnny and Dee Dee are both resting
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there in peace, I hope. And no, no, I did
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not go to that show. I have been there, but I,
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you know, to Hollywood forever, to pay my respects, but
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I didn't go to this show. Anyway, the band was
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named after a children's book, apparently of the same name. Although,
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The name was changed last year to Spike and the
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Gimme Gimmes, with no apparent reason given.
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I guess Spike wanted top billing.
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Well, yeah, apparently whoever the singer is now, his name
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is Spike Slauson, so that's the only reason I can
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think of. But they are now Spike and the Gimme Gimmes. Now,
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earlier this year, Spike and the Gimme Gimmes released their
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first single under the new name, And it's a cover
494
00:33:32.970 --> 00:33:37.990
of USA for Africa's We Are the World. And like
495
00:33:38.019 --> 00:33:40.759
the original, all the proceeds go to charity. And in
496
00:33:40.859 --> 00:33:46.119
this instance, it's the Sweet Relief Musicians Fund. Now, recently,
497
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:49.720
the Gimme Gimmes played here in New York, or close
498
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:54.039
by to where we are here, at Irving Plaza. And no,
499
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.339
I didn't go to that one either. But as far
500
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:04.059
as Dolly Parton goes, either okay but look i want
501
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.180
to say thank you dolly for everything you did for
502
00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:11.320
this world now you all go see a concert thank
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00:34:11.340 --> 00:34:12.440
you that was.
504
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.719
A good one i had not heard that before no
505
00:34:14.739 --> 00:34:17.210
that's a great that's a great rendition that was kind
506
00:34:17.230 --> 00:34:21.329
of fun actually you know not your traditional what you're
507
00:34:21.369 --> 00:34:23.269
expecting to hear a dolly parton song that was.
508
00:34:23.250 --> 00:34:25.769
Well i think it speaks to the fact that everybody
509
00:34:26.150 --> 00:34:32.340
you know Everybody loved Dolly Parton. How could you not? Exactly.
510
00:34:32.409 --> 00:34:34.199
I didn't know much about her music, but I thought
511
00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:37.760
she was just one of the best human beings on
512
00:34:37.780 --> 00:34:37.980
the planet.
513
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.980
I think everybody's seen interview clips at this point, and
514
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.539
even if she didn't agree with something, she would just
515
00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:48.400
very politely get out of answering the question without insulting anybody,
516
00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:52.519
without putting anybody down. She had that ability, which I
517
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:53.550
wish we could see more of.
518
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:54.699
Absolutely.
519
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.000
Absolutely. Classy would be possibly a word.
520
00:34:58.019 --> 00:34:59.360
Very much so.
521
00:34:59.780 --> 00:35:00.690
In so many ways.
522
00:35:00.869 --> 00:35:03.170
I've seen a lot of interviews of her since she
523
00:35:03.230 --> 00:35:07.230
passed about that very topic of how she would, in
524
00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:10.969
a very classy way, defer if people tried to corner
525
00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:13.409
her on something, to try to find out where she felt,
526
00:35:13.530 --> 00:35:14.539
whatever the issue was.
527
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.960
She would just... And if they didn't give up, she
528
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.000
would basically say, you know what, you can ask me
529
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.849
whatever you want, but I'm still not going to answer you.
530
00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:22.579
No, no, no.
531
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:26.840
I think she, you know, she had a pretty good
532
00:35:26.900 --> 00:35:30.460
sense of humor about herself too. I mean, you know, that, um,
533
00:35:31.059 --> 00:35:31.639
you know, she didn't.
534
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:33.119
Very self-deprecating.
535
00:35:33.739 --> 00:35:36.579
Yeah. She didn't take herself all that seriously. And she,
536
00:35:36.860 --> 00:35:40.389
she knew what she, she
knew what her image was.
537
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.769
And she, you know, I'll say laughed about it, joked
538
00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:45.469
about it. And I'm not going to go too deeply
539
00:35:45.530 --> 00:35:49.309
into it, but, uh, something along the lines of your
540
00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:52.349
intro joke, uh, this evening.
541
00:35:52.590 --> 00:35:56.829
Uh yes she hosted saturday night live i want to say.
542
00:35:56.789 --> 00:36:01.030
It was in the 80s yes i saw that talk.
543
00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:02.929
About having a sense of humor.
544
00:36:02.789 --> 00:36:06.079
But the camera angle is that the one you're talking.
545
00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:08.800
Yes you know a cameraman dangling from a rope high
546
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.039
above the stage for a new and innovative look and
547
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.159
of course you can guess what the camera was pointing
548
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:17.219
down at oh my goodness and she leaned into it
549
00:36:17.300 --> 00:36:17.699
she had.
550
00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:20.849
It was hysterical. Yeah, that's what I mean. She totally,
551
00:36:21.030 --> 00:36:26.070
you know, she wasn't going to deny it, but she
552
00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:26.730
played along.
553
00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:32.750
There's so much like that. That's great. I was hoping
554
00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:34.090
that at some point I could catch her at the
555
00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:35.860
Grand Ole Opry, and I never had the chance to
556
00:36:35.889 --> 00:36:36.929
do that, unfortunately.
557
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:39.840
All right. All right.
558
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:40.320
Thanks, Neil.
559
00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:42.480
We're going to take another real quick break, but we
560
00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:44.940
have two more coming up, so stick around. We will
561
00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:45.639
be right back.
562
00:36:46.710 --> 00:37:01.570
HudsonRiverRadio.com HudsonRiverRadio.com HudsonRiverRadio.com And welcome back, Barbara.
563
00:37:01.989 --> 00:37:02.670
We are up to you.
564
00:37:03.550 --> 00:37:08.489
Alrighty. Well, my song choice to celebrate America's sweetheart is
565
00:37:08.550 --> 00:37:12.800
called You Can Have Him, Jolene by Chapel Heart. And
566
00:37:12.860 --> 00:37:16.420
it's done as an answer song, which we've talked about
567
00:37:16.949 --> 00:37:20.389
before on Rock and Roll History Show a while back,
568
00:37:20.489 --> 00:37:23.469
we discovered, for example, that the song They're Coming to
569
00:37:23.489 --> 00:37:25.710
Take Me Away has an answer song called They're Coming
570
00:37:25.750 --> 00:37:29.090
to Get Me Again. So first let's talk about the
571
00:37:29.130 --> 00:37:32.949
band Chapel Heart consisting of sisters Danica and Devrin Hart,
572
00:37:33.650 --> 00:37:38.469
who grew up in Poplarville, Mississippi. Their cousin Treya Swindle
573
00:37:38.530 --> 00:37:41.829
joined them in 2014, and they began singing cover songs
574
00:37:42.010 --> 00:37:46.019
on the streets of New Orleans. They began eventually writing
575
00:37:46.139 --> 00:37:50.440
original music as well, and altogether they released four studio albums.
576
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.360
In July 2022, they appeared as contestants on the 17th
577
00:37:55.420 --> 00:37:59.460
season of America's Got Talent, where their performance of You
578
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.320
Can Have Him, Jolene, resulted in their being awarded the
579
00:38:03.699 --> 00:38:08.510
Golden Buzzer by all four judges, which was only the
580
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.449
second time in the show's history in which that occurred.
581
00:38:11.929 --> 00:38:12.050
So.
582
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.820
talk a little bit more about them, but for now,
583
00:38:14.860 --> 00:38:17.739
why don't we check it out for ourselves?
584
00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.980
Well, since the last song, I've had time to think
585
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:23.599
it over.
586
00:38:23.619 --> 00:38:26.949
A lot of tears, a lot of beer, a lot
587
00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:27.690
of wine.
588
00:38:28.849 --> 00:38:32.570
I spend so much time believing that that midnight won't
589
00:38:32.590 --> 00:38:36.489
stop ringing, but he'd leave the room and answer every
590
00:38:41.210 --> 00:38:44.989
that broken glass in pieces and you holding.
591
00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:46.690
Me and saying you were.
592
00:38:46.769 --> 00:38:51.800
Wrong well i'm tired of second chances and these sad
593
00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:57.300
ass circumstances he's your problem good luck keeping him wrong.
594
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:29.789
Well, I fixed my crown from leaning.
595
00:39:30.110 --> 00:39:34.030
And those wedding bells stopped ringing I took my keys
596
00:39:34.090 --> 00:39:38.030
and threw them at his door Well, I found.
597
00:39:38.099 --> 00:39:41.679
A man who loves me And he'll give me all I.
598
00:39:41.659 --> 00:39:46.320
Need But a woman could ask for any more.
599
00:39:47.019 --> 00:39:51.780
Oh, Joey You can have him cause he don't.
600
00:39:51.619 --> 00:39:52.780
Mean much to me.
601
00:39:54.650 --> 00:39:58.380
Well, I've cried so much till rivers turn to seas.
602
00:39:59.219 --> 00:39:59.639
Oh, joy.
603
00:41:20.230 --> 00:41:24.000
Okay, well, Chapel Hill originally went by the name Hyperfly,
604
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.920
and that's spelled with a P-H and two Y's. No
605
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:28.940
idea why.
606
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.300
Like two Y's next to each other?
607
00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:31.039
Yes.
608
00:41:31.739 --> 00:41:31.940
Yes.
609
00:41:32.260 --> 00:41:32.880
Hyperfly.
610
00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:34.139
Plus the Y in hyper?
611
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:34.980
Yeah.
612
00:41:35.019 --> 00:41:35.670
So it's three Y's?
613
00:41:36.389 --> 00:41:38.550
Yeah, the word hyper is normal. That part of the
614
00:41:38.590 --> 00:41:41.409
word is normal, but then it's P-H-L-Y-Y.
615
00:41:41.429 --> 00:41:42.340
Okay. Whatever.
616
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:43.800
Why?
617
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.679
I don't know. They renamed themselves Chapel Hill in 2020
618
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.860
after a church in their hometown. And You Can Have Him,
619
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.869
Jolene was included on their second album titled Their Girls
620
00:41:54.929 --> 00:41:59.329
Are Back in Town, released in July 2021. Music Row,
621
00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:04.940
which is Nashville's music industry's trade publication, said of the album, quote, unquote, unquote.
622
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.940
You Can Have Him, Jolene was not the band's only
623
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:25.199
answer song. In 2023, they recorded Welcome to Fish City,
624
00:42:25.389 --> 00:42:30.230
an answer to Loretta Lynn's 1968 single, Fish City. Chapel
625
00:42:30.269 --> 00:42:34.349
Heart broke up in 2025, with Danica Hart going solo
626
00:42:34.610 --> 00:42:38.519
and Devrin Hart and Treya Swindle forming the duo Magnolia Rising.
627
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.679
And I love that this song represents a change of heart,
628
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:45.000
like perhaps Jolene's significant other showed his true colors after
629
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:48.139
a while. How many of us are familiar with that?
630
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.650
Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
631
00:42:50.849 --> 00:42:53.929
And when we were given this song topic, I know
632
00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:56.550
there's a few answer songs to Jolene out there, but
633
00:42:56.630 --> 00:42:58.449
this was the one that came to my mind first,
634
00:42:58.550 --> 00:43:00.840
and I really wanted to do it. So that was
635
00:43:00.860 --> 00:43:01.360
a lot of fun.
636
00:43:01.710 --> 00:43:03.690
I had heard of it. I never actually heard the
637
00:43:03.710 --> 00:43:04.789
song until just now.
638
00:43:05.510 --> 00:43:05.809
Yeah.
639
00:43:06.070 --> 00:43:07.949
It's better than I was expecting. You know what? You
640
00:43:07.989 --> 00:43:11.110
hear that, and my knee-jerk reaction was, come on. You
641
00:43:11.139 --> 00:43:14.039
couldn't come up with something. But all right.
642
00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:18.579
Yeah, I think, you know, and I didn't really know
643
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.880
even the song, the original, the Jolene song that well,
644
00:43:21.940 --> 00:43:26.139
as I admitted. I did not follow Dolly's musical career,
645
00:43:26.539 --> 00:43:28.929
and I was only aware of the song more recently,
646
00:43:28.969 --> 00:43:32.510
like within the past five years or so. I thought
647
00:43:32.550 --> 00:43:35.530
it was new. And I'm saying, no, it came out,
648
00:43:35.909 --> 00:43:36.530
you were saying.
649
00:43:36.969 --> 00:43:38.809
She wrote it the same day as I Will Always
650
00:43:38.849 --> 00:43:39.429
Love You, which.
651
00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:39.829
Right.
652
00:43:40.289 --> 00:43:42.670
Like one $ 10 million song is not enough.
653
00:43:43.769 --> 00:43:44.010
Right.
654
00:43:44.429 --> 00:43:44.719
Yeah.
655
00:43:45.429 --> 00:43:50.380
But I think that song, the answer song, stands up
656
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:54.159
on its own, even if the original had never been written.
657
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.739
Yeah.
658
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.019
I agree. That sounds like a valid... You know, everything
659
00:43:59.059 --> 00:44:01.579
from the production, the musicianship, the singing.
660
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:03.659
And it tells a story. You don't need to know
661
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:07.179
the first half. It's a self-contained story there.
662
00:44:07.219 --> 00:44:08.920
Exactly. It stands by itself.
663
00:44:09.059 --> 00:44:14.159
Yeah, it's a standalone concept. And I did see a
664
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:19.010
clip of Dolly, I guess during the pandemic, promoting getting vaccines,
665
00:44:19.070 --> 00:44:21.429
and she was actually singing the word vaccine to the
666
00:44:21.489 --> 00:44:23.110
tune of Jolene.
667
00:44:23.710 --> 00:44:25.219
That's okay. I've seen it on.
668
00:44:26.730 --> 00:44:32.230
Facebook video meme type things. People singing about their cat's feet.
669
00:44:32.809 --> 00:44:37.309
Toe beans, toe beans, toe beans, toe beans.
670
00:44:37.510 --> 00:44:39.010
Yep, definitely.
671
00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:42.739
And since I have three cats, of course, I can relate.
672
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.480
Are you singing that loud enough for your neighbors to hear?
673
00:44:46.699 --> 00:44:47.800
Yeah, I would do that.
674
00:44:48.099 --> 00:44:50.079
I think we should all go over Gail's house and
675
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:51.719
sing that at the top of our lungs.
676
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.099
I'm thinking when Christmas rolls around, we're going to do
677
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:55.320
some caroling outside.
678
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.400
With megaphone, you know, the bullhorns.
679
00:45:01.539 --> 00:45:06.699
Oh, yeah. Christmas caroling to the bears in the woods there?
680
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:11.539
To the neighbors. Okay.
681
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.590
I think you'll clear out the bears and the neighbors.
682
00:45:14.650 --> 00:45:15.829
There you go.
683
00:45:15.889 --> 00:45:16.329
And win.
684
00:45:17.090 --> 00:45:19.590
Let's get Gail a little more popularity.
685
00:45:20.030 --> 00:45:22.969
I don't know that the guy upstairs is a cantor
686
00:45:23.030 --> 00:45:26.829
at John's church. So he, he would be okay with
687
00:45:26.889 --> 00:45:27.349
it at least.
688
00:45:27.929 --> 00:45:28.250
All right.
689
00:45:28.289 --> 00:45:29.349
He can come join.
690
00:45:29.849 --> 00:45:31.070
Yeah, exactly.
691
00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:35.369
Fine with me. All right. Well, thank you, Barbara. All right.
692
00:45:35.670 --> 00:45:40.289
One more. And, uh, I, I, I, it was tough.
693
00:45:40.429 --> 00:45:44.170
This was tough to narrow down and pick. So we
694
00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:46.969
talked so much. Everybody's talked so much rightly. So about
695
00:45:47.030 --> 00:45:50.239
how Dolly was known for being so gracious when she
696
00:45:50.619 --> 00:45:56.400
disagreed with somebody, um, Really never offended anybody. But I
697
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.280
did find one of the few things that she outwardly
698
00:45:59.420 --> 00:46:02.460
did not like and was quite public about it. So
699
00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:04.320
I thought we could talk about that for a little bit.
700
00:46:05.820 --> 00:46:09.599
Her first film role was in 1980. It was the
701
00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:13.969
movie 9 to 5. She had a wonderful experience and
702
00:46:14.050 --> 00:46:17.530
it propelled her from just, quote unquote, just being a
703
00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:21.840
musical star to a showbiz star across the board. And
704
00:46:21.900 --> 00:46:23.579
she was ready to do another film because she had
705
00:46:23.619 --> 00:46:27.110
such a good experience. So along came, as Neil mentioned before,
706
00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:32.010
The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, which started filming in
707
00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:35.409
1981 and came out in 1982. She was quite blunt
708
00:46:35.630 --> 00:46:39.250
in her memoirs about how awful the experience was. And
709
00:46:39.309 --> 00:46:44.519
she said outright it was, quote, a miserable, spirit-numbing ordeal.
710
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:45.940
Wow.
711
00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:46.739
Yeah.
712
00:46:46.940 --> 00:46:48.039
Tell us how you really feel.
713
00:46:48.260 --> 00:46:51.460
For her to say that, imagine how bad it really
714
00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:54.940
had to be. If you're not familiar with the story,
715
00:46:55.940 --> 00:46:58.730
I'm going to do the ultra condensed version of it.
716
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.139
But The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas was first a
717
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:05.159
musical that came out in 1978. It was based on
718
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:10.460
a real brothel in LaGrange, Fayette County, Texas. The name
719
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.199
LaGrange might ring a bell with some of our fellow
720
00:47:13.219 --> 00:47:19.139
ZZ Top fans. It is the same place that we're
721
00:47:19.179 --> 00:47:23.199
talking about. So, yeah. And, of course, we lost Frank Beard,
722
00:47:23.260 --> 00:47:27.050
which I'm kind of glossing over that, unfortunately. But what
723
00:47:27.070 --> 00:47:30.989
can I say? So we go back to 1905, and
724
00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:33.750
the owner at the time, Miss Jessie, was on good
725
00:47:33.789 --> 00:47:37.650
terms with the sheriff, Will Lawson. The sheriff would swing
726
00:47:37.690 --> 00:47:40.150
by every night to catch up on the latest intel
727
00:47:40.570 --> 00:47:46.360
because Miss Jessie's customers... would brag about their criminal activity
728
00:47:46.489 --> 00:47:50.489
to the employees and spill the beans on what they
729
00:47:50.530 --> 00:47:55.110
had done. And then Miss Jessie, her employees would then
730
00:47:55.769 --> 00:47:58.929
share the information with the sheriff. Now this is before
731
00:47:59.250 --> 00:48:02.900
telephone lines were widespread and all that. So he would
732
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:07.119
go in person. Miss Jessie was also very good at marketing.
733
00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.480
She had two employees whose job it was, was to
734
00:48:10.539 --> 00:48:14.820
send out letters and packages to to soldiers from that
735
00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:17.550
area of Texas who were overseas during World War I.
736
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.260
And by most accounts, by most standards, it was a
737
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:26.179
well-respected business in town. Didn't cause any problems. It was well-run.
738
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.909
Employees were treated well. People didn't put up with any shenanigans.
739
00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:33.949
People got kicked out for misbehaving, all that kind of stuff.
740
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Then the Great Depression hit, and customers could not afford
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the services being offered. And the workers wound up having
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no money for food. So Miss Jessie instituted the poultry
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standard of one chicken for one service, we shall say.
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And it didn't take long before there were just chickens
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running everywhere. And that's how the place became known as
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the Chicken Ranch. It changed ownership, but it ran pretty
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much the same way until 1973 when a TV reporter
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named Marvin Zindler did a week-long, multi-part story about law
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enforcement's lack of action against alleged corruption and organized crime
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at the chicken ranch.
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So eggs weren't the only thing getting laid there is
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what you're saying.
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Oh my! That was a good one. Dad jokes they
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are flying.
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Wow.
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You can edit that. It's okay.
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That will absolutely not be edited out. You are correct.
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I couldn't self edit either. I couldn't self censor. Sorry.
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Nope.
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Nope. That was good. So local authorities initially refused to
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take action. They said nobody had a problem with it.
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It's a manufactured thing. There's no organized crime involved. We're
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not doing anything. Leave us alone. Well, after this news report,
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it got so much attention that the governor was forced
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to take action,
and the ranch was ultimately closed down
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in 1973. In 1974, there was an article in Playboy
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about the chicken ranch written by Larry L. King, not
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the old dude that used to be on CNN, a
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different guy, who then teamed up with two more showbiz
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people because he realized this was a good story, and
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they developed The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas as a
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musical based on the chicken ranch. Then it got turned
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into a movie. Burt Reynolds plays the sheriff. The name
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was changed to Ed Earl Dodd. Dolly plays the madam,
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Miss Mona Stangley. And the reporter, the name was changed
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to Melvin P.
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Thorpe.
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And he is played by Dom DeLuise.
779
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Oh, wow.
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If you don't know Dom DeLuise, we're going to come
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back to him in a little bit. So apparently Dolly
782
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and Burt weren't the best of co-workers. Burt had just
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broken up with Sally Field and was just perpetually cranky.
784
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The production company changed directors and Burt went public accusing
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00:51:11.809 --> 00:51:15.539
Dolly of using her power to get directors fired, which
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was not the case.
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00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:17.960
Right.
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00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.820
And then the bosses would turn around and tell Dolly
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to go get Burt Reynolds and cheer him up and
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make him less cranky and get him to come down
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to the set. Like it was her fault and her
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00:51:29.230 --> 00:51:31.900
problem to have to go solve these things, you know? Plus,
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they were filming down south where it was hot and
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00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.440
uncomfortable and throw that on top of everything else. They
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did wind up jamming I Will Always Love You into
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the movie. It was not in the musical. It was
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00:51:44.929 --> 00:51:47.130
just a hit, and they had Dolly, so they made
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it fit into the movie. She re-recorded it, and like
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00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:53.010
Neil said, it was re-released and became a hit for
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the second time. Tonight, we're going to be talking about
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00:51:57.230 --> 00:52:01.579
Melvin Thorpe's report on The Chicken Ranch. Now, in the movie,
802
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.110
instead of being a serious reporter like the real Marvin Zindler,
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00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:09.489
Marvin Thorpe hosts a talk show spoof format with a
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big audience. He makes a big musical number about the
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chicken ranch. It's super over the top. If you're not
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familiar with Dom DeLuise, go watch the movie Cannonball Run
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00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:21.860
if you haven't seen it. That was one of my
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00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:23.079
favorite movies growing up.
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00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:24.280
Who hasn't?
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00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:24.940
Right?
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Classic.
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That's great. The best description I could give is, like,
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Dom DeLuise was a step before John Belushi, like Chris Farley,
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the heavy guy over the top, just, you know, loud, just.
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Full of energy. He made a few movies with Burt Reynolds,
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00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:42.659
didn't he?
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They did a bunch together.
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00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.750
They were like, yeah, they were like, you know, kind
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00:52:45.789 --> 00:52:46.769
of a team, I guess.
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00:52:46.809 --> 00:52:51.050
Yes, yeah, yeah. And, I mean, talk about playing parts
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00:52:51.130 --> 00:52:56.150
over the top. It's great. So Melvin Thorpe on his
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00:52:56.190 --> 00:52:59.449
talk show is now doing this report on The Chicken Ranch.
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and sings a song called Texas Has a Whorehouse in It.
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So I think you're going to get a kick out
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of it if you haven't heard it before, but let's
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check it out. Texas has a whorehouse in it.
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Lord have mercy on our souls.
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Texas has a whorehouse in it.
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Lord have mercy on our souls.
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I'll expose the facts, although it fills me with disgust.
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Please excuse the.
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00:53:22.300 --> 00:53:25.539
Filthy dark details.
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And carnal lust.
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Filthy dark details and carnal lust.
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Dancing, going on inside it. Don't you see they've.
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Gone plum wild?
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I inquired, no one denied it.
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Now I think I'm getting riled.
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Bodies close together, arms and legs all rearranged.
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And the sheriff does not close it down.
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00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:46.400
That's very strange.
842
00:53:46.420 --> 00:53:49.659
Does not close it down, that's very strange.
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Me and I
juiced up brilliant jean honky tonk cowboys.
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Mixing with green-eyed, thin-lipped, hard-as-nails.
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Prox-eyed blondes.
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Not to mention some types that you'd never guess would
847
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:02.219
venture near.
848
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Acting all depraved.
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And loose and wild.
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90 miles from here. And now, our own Melvin P.
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Thorpe Sangers.
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Texas has a whorehouse in it.
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00:54:12.889 --> 00:54:14.710
I'll not let this scandal fade.
854
00:54:14.730 --> 00:54:17.170
Texas has a whorehouse in it.
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I'll uproot and I'll crusade.
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00:54:18.949 --> 00:54:22.719
I can smell corruption and I'll fight it to the top.
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Love the scapulation going on.
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Oh, yeah. Don't touch that dial.
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This is Melvin P.
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Thorpe saying I'll be back with new and revealing information
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00:55:02.829 --> 00:55:04.469
about this and other cases.
862
00:55:04.889 --> 00:55:21.409
Watchdog never sleeps. Talk about over the top. you could picture,
863
00:55:21.769 --> 00:55:24.789
you know, that musical format of the, the glittery stage
864
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and all the lighting and all that ridiculous, you know?
865
00:55:27.829 --> 00:55:30.659
Well, I remember him as a kid being on, you know, like, uh,
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you know, some of the variety shows like, you know,
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Ed Sullivan type shows, you know, and yeah, he was
868
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.980
always like, yeah, he was like, like goofy and, and, and,
869
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you know, a comedian. And, um, yeah, that was, yeah.
870
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Before the movie career really. And, uh, Yeah, no. So
871
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he had been around for, you know, doing that for
872
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a while. Mm-hmm.
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So there you go. That was it. And I think
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we did all right tonight. Not too bad.
875
00:55:57.929 --> 00:55:58.119
Yeah.
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00:55:58.139 --> 00:56:01.929
It was a nice tribute to a wonderful, wonderful person.
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Yeah.
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Wonderful person. We have good selection across the board, all
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00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:08.050
different types of music and all that. So I think
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it's a good time to pull the plug. Okay.
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All right.
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00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.980
Great job, Cranbones. Excellent selections. Thank you all for joining
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us for the Rock and Roll History Show. Don't forget
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00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.619
to subscribe in your favorite podcast app and check out
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00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:21.619
all the other shows we do here because there really
886
00:56:21.679 --> 00:56:24.480
is something for everybody. We'll be back next week with
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00:56:24.539 --> 00:56:27.139
another topic that we put off for this week, and
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00:56:27.659 --> 00:56:30.179
we already know what it is, which is very unusual
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for us. So we hope you join us then, and
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have a great weekend. Be safe, everybody, and peace out.
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Okay, bye-bye.
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Woo-hoo!
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