Fuld transskription af EP 247: TechTime with Nathan Mumm: Gaming Economics with Nintendo Switch 2's Detail, 1.5 Billion Crypto Heists, and Social Media Evolution with Guest Gwen Way Gadget "The Ring Mouse" | Air Date: 4/8 - 4/14/2025

that. 00:02:13.641 --> 00:02:16.508 What dramatic measures are being taken? 00:02:16.508 --> 00:02:18.820 And then the next generation of gaming is here. 00:02:18.820 --> 00:02:24.411 What's the buzz about nintendo switch 2 and is it worth the hype? 00:02:24.411 --> 00:02:26.235 We'll give you a sneak peek. 00:02:26.235 --> 00:02:39.689 In addition, we have our standard features, including Mike's mesmerizing moment, our technology fail of the week, a possible Nathan Nugget and, of course, our pick of the day whiskey tastings, to see if our selected whiskey pick gets zero, one or two thumbs up at the end of the show. 00:02:39.689 --> 00:02:41.747 Now are you okay there, mike? 00:02:41.747 --> 00:02:48.550 I was worried about you. 00:02:48.550 --> 00:02:49.409 I saw you coughing, are you okay? 00:02:49.353 --> 00:02:51.010 no, no, heimlich there anything like needs to be done, please, no, okay, all right. 00:02:51.010 --> 00:02:51.931 Well, you do, you know, you know what you do have, though don't touch me. 00:02:51.931 --> 00:02:58.882 Okay, you have, you have the legendary uh gaming mug, so you should be good yeah, that's what I was drinking out of when I went into the car okay, well, that didn't work. 00:02:58.882 --> 00:03:02.431 Then I almost had a legendary cough mug all right, all right right. 00:03:02.431 --> 00:03:06.471 Now, though, it's time for the latest headlines in the world of technology. 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:11.110 Here are our top technology stories of the week. 00:03:12.878 --> 00:03:16.931 All right, Story number one TikTok's clock is still ticking. 00:03:16.931 --> 00:03:19.968 Let's go to Lisa Walker for more on this story. 00:03:22.020 --> 00:03:35.475 US President Donald Trump has granted TikTok a second 75-day extension to comply with a law that requires the highly popular video app to either sell its US operation or face a ban in the country. 00:03:35.475 --> 00:03:47.723 The social media platform, which claims to have more than 170 million users in the US, must cease operations in the US under a law passed by Congress, unless a buyer is found. 00:03:47.723 --> 00:03:54.913 In a statement last week, bytedance mentioned that it had been in discussions, but noted that an agreement has not been executed. 00:03:54.913 --> 00:03:56.478 There are key matters. 00:03:56.478 --> 00:03:59.826 Any agreement will be subject to approval under Chinese law. 00:03:59.826 --> 00:04:02.481 So who was in the running to take over this platform? 00:04:02.481 --> 00:04:04.066 Back to you guys in the studio. 00:04:06.532 --> 00:04:09.923 All right, so let's talk a little bit about this. 00:04:09.923 --> 00:04:11.145 Who might buy TikTok? 00:04:11.145 --> 00:04:22.084 As the ban deadline looms, amazon joins the bidders, so it's really interesting that essentially, we have bidders that are all taking care of it. 00:04:22.084 --> 00:04:28.334 Tiktok deals reportedly nearly finalized last week, but fell apart after Trump on the same day announced

sweeping global tariffs. 00:04:28.334 --> 00:04:29.706 I don't know if you've heard about these tariffs. 00:04:30.180 --> 00:04:32.608 No, I have no idea what this is all about. 00:04:32.819 --> 00:04:35.569 Okay so, and it was imposed on China. 00:04:35.569 --> 00:04:46.649 So all of a sudden, the agreement was put on hold and now the agreement is waiting for approval of existing investors, ByteDance, the US government and China. 00:04:46.649 --> 00:04:54.007 Now Trump imposed these global import taxes, which have caused a problem in the negotiations of the purchase of TikTok. 00:04:54.007 --> 00:04:58.911 It's interesting to see who is all in this bid to purchase TikTok. 00:04:58.911 --> 00:05:11.184 We have computer giant Microsoft, we got private equity giant Blackstone, venture capital firm Andersonerson, hose warts and search engine ai. 00:05:11.184 --> 00:05:16.774 Company perplexity is also in the stakes for purchasing this social media app. 00:05:16.774 --> 00:05:17.240 Now you know what? 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:23.612 I will look back at our prediction show, and this was the year that I did not predict microsoft would purchase a social media app. 00:05:23.612 --> 00:05:24.497 And guess what? 00:05:24.939 --> 00:05:26.322 oh well, you might be wrong. 00:05:26.322 --> 00:05:31.622 Uh, you could be wrong I actually think you're wrong most of the time those are. 00:05:31.723 --> 00:05:33.990 So you know, this is the time that I think that's going to happen. 00:05:33.990 --> 00:05:34.571 Where I think? 00:05:34.571 --> 00:05:35.281 Microsoft. 00:05:35.281 --> 00:05:43.459 To be honest, if you're going to have somebody in there, I think that's the one that will work the best I don't know, black blackstone, who already owns most of the country. 00:05:43.538 --> 00:05:46.048 Anyway, probably uh is interested in it. 00:05:46.048 --> 00:05:52.692 Yeah, yeah, they want they want to complete their conversion into a rental economy. 00:05:52.692 --> 00:05:53.925 Would you want Amazon to have this? 00:05:53.925 --> 00:05:57.648 You know I don't want Amazon to have any more stuff either. 00:05:57.648 --> 00:05:58.730 Ok, OK. 00:05:58.730 --> 00:06:02.384 I would totally agree with that you know, but then again I don't. 00:06:02.384 --> 00:06:16.120 I think we should just ban tiktok altogether, and as well as twitter and x and whatever it's going to be called next week, when it, when xai changes the name again. 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:16.862 Okay whatever. 00:06:17.163 --> 00:06:20.250 Okay, all right now on the story number two okay. 00:06:20.471 --> 00:06:31.875 Well, if you don't know yet, nintendo has confirmed the nintendo switch 2 is coming out with a hefty price tag of $449.99 for the console. 00:06:31.875 --> 00:06:38.475 That's the same price as an Xbox or a PlayStation 5, though I guess they just want their piece of the digital pie there. 00:06:38.697 --> 00:06:40.103 Okay all right, if you get the bundle. 00:06:40.163 --> 00:06:42.269 It's going to be $499. 00:06:42.509 --> 00:06:42.790 What. 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:44.324 Yeah, I think. 00:06:44.324 --> 00:06:45.127 What's the bundle? 00:06:45.127 --> 00:06:49.869 Come with a game, Comes with Mario Kart, I believe. 00:06:49.889 --> 00:06:51.052 No, Mario Kart World. 00:06:51.459 --> 00:06:53.067 Available on June 5th this year. 00:06:53.067 --> 00:06:58.548 The Nintendo Switch 2 was fully revealed last week, ahead of pre-orders going live on April 9th. 00:06:58.548 --> 00:07:04.848 Nintendo Switch 2 is the next step at home gaming that can be taken on the go, based on eight years of play. 00:07:04.848 --> 00:07:23.591 Nintendo Switch 2 comes with the following the console, a joy-con 2 controllers on the left and right, joy-con 2 grips, joy-con 2 straps, nintendo switch 2 dock, ultra high speed hdmi cable, nintendo switch ac adapter and a usbc charging cable. 00:07:23.591 --> 00:07:34.353 Now, with the bundle, it comes with all that plus mario cart world, and has a suggested retail price of 499.99 in the us. 00:07:34.353 --> 00:07:43.310 Includes a system and a download code for mario cart world, but if you want to buy that on your own, guess what? 00:07:43.310 --> 00:07:44.452 How much is it? 00:07:44.452 --> 00:07:47.125 How much is it, odie? 00:07:47.887 --> 00:07:48.389 How much is it? 00:07:49.130 --> 00:07:49.732 $80. 00:07:49.732 --> 00:07:52.764 $80 freaking dollars $79.99. 00:07:52.865 --> 00:07:57.343 I'll let you finish, All right but now, if you get the online version, it's $30 cheaper. 00:07:57.846 --> 00:07:58.528 No, it's not. 00:07:58.687 --> 00:08:02.862 Well, hang on, I know If you get the bundle it's $30 cheaper. 00:08:02.862 --> 00:08:04.569 Yeah, if you get the bundle, it's $30 cheaper. 00:08:04.569 --> 00:08:06.939 Yeah, they're bundling it so you can get it for free, but that's not the physical game. 00:08:07.300 --> 00:08:09.949 That's only the downloadable, mind you, they're not making a physical game anymore. 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:13.879 Well, I do believe that you can get the $79.99 one. 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:15.425 I believe that's a physical game. 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:17.927 No, they're giving you download keys. 00:08:19.223 --> 00:08:20.007 Are they all digital? 00:08:20.348 --> 00:08:24.470 Yeah, it's all part of the whole new economy system. 00:08:24.470 --> 00:08:26.661 Yeah, it's all. 00:08:26.661 --> 00:08:28.305 Okay, it's all part of the whole new economy system. 00:08:28.305 --> 00:08:28.966 All right, well, it's nothing. 00:08:28.966 --> 00:08:31.093 Nothing you have anymore is yours, and so you actually are then renting it. 00:08:31.112 --> 00:08:39.760 It's just like when you buy movies online and you stream them and download them and then all of a sudden, the studio pulls them back and then you've lost the type of deal just think everybody that has the we store. 00:08:39.760 --> 00:08:43.865 Right, the we store just officially well, it was six months ago closed. 00:08:43.865 -->

00:08:54.605 So if you had ever bought a digital copy on the wii store and you paid 49 bucks, 59 bucks, 39 for the prices of that, and then it retires, guess what happens? 00:08:54.666 --> 00:09:04.191 you do not get that game anymore yes, that's happening with everything with music, with uh games, with video streaming services. 00:09:04.191 --> 00:09:05.734 You don't own anything anymore. 00:09:05.734 --> 00:09:08.389 Then that's where the economy is going. 00:09:08.389 --> 00:09:23.811 So while it's normal to hear lots of curiosity about how much a new console will cost, the Nintendo Switch 2 in particular has been the focus of a huge lot of hot debates due to the unusual economic environment it's releasing in. 00:09:23.811 --> 00:09:34.429 As experts said back in January, factors such as supply chain constraints and uncertainty around tariffs could have impacted Nintendo's decision around price setting. 00:09:34.429 --> 00:09:40.226 However, analysts have also said that Nintendo is likely to sell lots of consoles at launch. 00:09:40.226 --> 00:09:42.850 Regardless of the price, it'll still sell out. 00:09:43.576 --> 00:09:57.357 Probably, and then it'll be the whole deal where you buy it on the black market and it won't be 4.99, it'll be 700 and some odd dollars that they'll sell this for you too yeah, I'm pretty sure it will do well well, od will uh. 00:09:57.357 --> 00:09:59.024 Will you be in line for one of these new units? 00:09:59.024 --> 00:10:01.573 No, I will not, will you buy one of these units? 00:10:01.673 --> 00:10:19.985 no, you know what I'm hoping will happen what's that what they did with the wii u okay, where apparently it had this huge price tag at first launch and then a lot of people realize this is no different than the wii yeah and it's not even a better console in itself, and it has that big, hefty price tag. 00:10:20.326 --> 00:10:28.280 So then it ended up reducing in value a couple months after launch, okay, so I'm hoping that happens with this Also. 00:10:28.280 --> 00:10:37.191 Another thing to note if you wanted to play Switch games on the Switch 2, you have to pay for an upgrade. 00:10:37.191 --> 00:10:38.613 Yes, for 20 bucks. 00:10:38.653 --> 00:10:38.893 Yes. 00:10:38.893 --> 00:10:44.528 That's so ridiculous Per game Per game Per game, not just the platform but for a game. 00:10:44.528 --> 00:10:58.480 So if you bought yourself, let's say you go down to the local retro video game store and you buy a console one of those type of deals for about 10 bucks, right, if you wanted to play it in your new device by the time you take it home and you pay 10 bucks for it, you'd have to then upsell double the price that you paid. 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.705 Yeah, to pay it on your new unit for 20 sounds like. 00:11:00.846 --> 00:11:07.105 Sounds like nintendo has really gotten back behind this whole screw you concern. 00:11:07.145 --> 00:11:09.405 So Xbox is coming out with a portable device. 00:11:09.405 --> 00:11:15.063 Right, their portable device is supposed to be the same price as what the Switch 2 just released. 00:11:15.063 --> 00:11:16.341 Now I'm interested. 00:11:16.341 --> 00:11:18.932 I'm going to go with the Xbox portable. 00:11:19.134 --> 00:11:31.562 I'm interested to see how they play it, because I have a feeling that you'll be able to play the Xbox games on the mobile device as well as on the main console that they'll be like transferable without any just your account. 00:11:31.604 --> 00:11:34.880 You just want to come into your account, yeah, and it's supposed to be a cloud-based unit. 00:11:34.880 --> 00:11:39.921 So what it is, it will have a fast internet connection and it will connect to that to move forward. 00:11:39.941 --> 00:11:47.835 So but I was really hyped at first because the mario world is just like a GTA Mario Kart, but very friendly. 00:11:47.835 --> 00:11:50.788 And you know that's not even the full bundle. 00:11:50.788 --> 00:11:54.892 You think the bundle would come with the camera and the additional joysticks. 00:11:54.892 --> 00:11:56.206 It's just a game. 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:02.831 Yeah, well, you know, as our buddy Elon Musk said about his cryptocurrency what's that? 00:12:02.831 --> 00:12:03.813 It's a hustle. 00:12:05.221 --> 00:12:06.947 Honestly, my Switch is doing fine. 00:12:06.947 --> 00:12:08.222 I bought it in 2020. 00:12:08.222 --> 00:12:09.707 I'm not gonna buy the console. 00:12:09.707 --> 00:12:12.378 I was really hyped for it, but all right. 00:12:12.418 --> 00:12:13.942 Well, now we're gonna move on to story number three. 00:12:13.942 --> 00:12:14.683 All right. 00:12:14.683 --> 00:12:24.727 Fbi has confirmed that north korean hackers stole 1.5 billion from cryptocurrency exchange by bit on friday the largest crypto heist record to date. 00:12:24.727 --> 00:12:39.899 Now the FBI has encouraged node operators, exchanges bridges, defi services, blockchain analytic firms and other cryptocurrency service providers to block transactions originating from the address used by the North Korean hackers to launder the stolen assets. 00:12:39.899 --> 00:12:55.248 On Friday, the state-sponsored hacking group tracked by Trader Trader, the Lazarus Groups and APT38, intercepted a scheduled transfer of funds from one of the Bybit's cold wallets into a hot wallet, substantially reducing. 00:12:55.248 --> 00:13:12.009 The Democratic People Republic of Korea was responsible for the theft and approximately 1.5 billion USD in virtual assets from cryptocurrency exchange by a bit. 00:13:12.009 --> 00:13:15.630 This all happened on February 21st 2025. 00:13:16.461 --> 00:13:21.100 Now the actors proceeded rapidly to have all the converted stolen assets to Bitcoin. 00:13:21.100 --> 00:13:24.029 They then tried to convert them to actual, real currency. 00:13:24.029 --> 00:13:35.092 Now, if you're going to put money into a crypto fund here at Tech Time Radio, we've talked about this many times there's only one that we

recommend, and that is a company out of California called Coinbase. 00:13:35.092 --> 00:13:38.087 Now, none of these are to be FDI insured. 00:13:38.087 --> 00:13:39.971 None of these are guaranteed to exist. 00:13:39.971 --> 00:13:43.969 But if you're putting any of your cryptocurrency into any of these one-off areas. 00:13:43.969 --> 00:13:45.432 Let me just talk about this. 00:13:45.432 --> 00:13:55.494 So, essentially, the cryptocurrency buy bit on Friday said that they are not going to replenish any of those cryptocurrency funds that were stolen. 00:13:55.494 --> 00:13:56.416 Why would they? 00:13:56.416 --> 00:13:58.065 Because it's fake money. 00:13:58.264 --> 00:13:58.888 It's a hustle. 00:14:00.063 --> 00:14:00.826 So it's fake. 00:14:00.826 --> 00:14:11.798 Well, it's $1.5 billion that has just gone down the drain, and if you were one of those individuals that had one of those cryptocurrencies on this exchange, it is now gone forever. 00:14:11.818 --> 00:14:12.883 Yeah, how about? 00:14:12.883 --> 00:14:13.988 How awesome is that? 00:14:13.988 --> 00:14:22.830 So you spend money to buy non-money yes, which gets stolen by other people, and because it's non-money, it's not actually stolen. 00:14:22.830 --> 00:14:26.506 And then you convert it into cash and then you convert it into cash, and then you can convert that. 00:14:26.900 --> 00:14:28.506 The laundering is the only thing they get you on. 00:14:28.506 --> 00:14:29.129 How about that? 00:14:30.280 --> 00:14:31.225 I didn't think about it. 00:14:31.284 --> 00:14:32.187 Yeah, that's how they get you. 00:14:32.187 --> 00:14:37.609 That's why the FBI is involved, because it is a laundering scheme, because you're taking money and you're converting it into other money. 00:14:37.609 --> 00:14:39.302 You're not really giving an asset for it. 00:14:39.302 --> 00:14:41.966 So it's kind of the way that they get that taken care of. 00:14:41.966 --> 00:14:45.932 But let me just tell you, do not be putting your money into cryptocurrency. 00:14:45.932 --> 00:14:48.615 Well, that ends our top technology stories of the week. 00:14:48.615 --> 00:14:51.697 Moving on, gwenway will be joining us for our gadgets and gear segment. 00:14:51.697 --> 00:14:55.767 Next, buckle up as we drive 88 miles per hour into our next segment. 00:14:55.767 --> 00:14:57.346 See you, guys, after the commercial break. 00:14:58.042 --> 00:15:01.506 Looking for custom glass solutions for your next commercial project? 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00:16:04.005 --> 00:16:04.287 today. 00:16:04.287 --> 00:16:06.605 Today is Joseph A Magn magnus. 00:16:06.605 --> 00:16:10.446 This is their murray hill club special release, batch number four. 00:16:10.446 --> 00:16:12.269 Oh, a little coffin over there. 00:16:12.269 --> 00:16:14.020 Wow, let me tell you about it. 00:16:14.020 --> 00:16:15.265 It's a little bit long. 00:16:15.265 --> 00:16:16.471 This is from their website. 00:16:16.471 --> 00:16:21.410 Okay, but it's going to be all these tons of tasting notes, so see if you get all these notes from it. 00:16:21.410 --> 00:16:23.399 Water oil it's artfully blended. 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:30.629 Eight and 17 year old bourbon, finished in four months in fresh Cavados casks imported from the lower Normandy region of France. 00:16:30.629 --> 00:16:48.970 The nose offers a complex cornucopia of aromas, such as apple strudel, gingerbread cake drizzled with white icing potpourri, old fashioned New England apple molasses, persian black tea with sugar cubes and roasted chestnuts. 00:16:48.970 --> 00:16:51.567 I detected every single one of those. 00:16:51.847 --> 00:16:52.429 Thank you, Mike. 00:16:53.301 --> 00:16:56.753 I always tasted the potpourri from my grandmother's old house, but okay. 00:16:56.980 --> 00:17:15.616 Now everything that knows promise is delivered on the palate, with further notes of poached pears in ruby, red, port star, anise, apple blossom honey, brown butter with cinnamon, roasted coffee beans, dried apricots, branded cherries, candied walnuts and aged balsamic vinegar. 00:17:15.616 --> 00:17:17.366 I tasted every one of those. 00:17:17.366 --> 00:17:19.186 You are turning into a connoisseur. 00:17:19.186 --> 00:17:20.221 And what about the finish, Mike? 00:17:20.221 --> 00:17:21.221 And what about the finish, Mike? 00:17:21.221 --> 00:17:30.194 They say the finish is extraordinary long and rich, with plenty of plum pudding, apple crisp and citron peels that wash across the palate. 00:17:34.140 --> 00:17:35.703 Okay, I don't know anything about citron peels, but the finish was awesome. 00:17:35.703

--> 00:17:37.749 So this is from Joseph A Magnus Company. 00:17:37.749 --> 00:17:38.832 It's distillation. 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:45.111 It's MGP distilled, but they bring it in and they finish it and they age it. 00:17:45.111 --> 00:17:46.801 It's a fancy looking bottle, so it's got to be some expensive stuff. 00:17:46.942 --> 00:17:51.945 It's finished bourbon aged 8 to 17 year blend 111 proof only. 00:17:51.945 --> 00:17:58.468 It's 75% corn, 21% rye, 4% malted barley and the price is $200. 00:17:58.468 --> 00:18:00.025 That's why you don't like it. 00:18:00.025 --> 00:18:01.565 There you go. 00:18:02.521 --> 00:18:03.486 Too expensive for. 00:18:04.040 --> 00:18:08.182 I don't know, I don't know, man, I I yeah, well, maybe, it'll grow on me, okay. 00:18:08.321 --> 00:18:09.905 Well, don't forget to like and subscribe. 00:18:09.905 --> 00:18:12.582 All you people out there hit, smash that like button. 00:18:12.582 --> 00:18:13.625 Drink responsibly. 00:18:13.747 --> 00:18:15.513 Heaven can wait there you go, perfect. 00:18:15.513 --> 00:18:18.585 All right, with our whiskey tasting completed, let's move on to our feature segment. 00:18:18.585 --> 00:18:20.048 Today we have gwen way joining the show. 00:18:20.048 --> 00:18:27.993 She's an expert in cyber security during the day and a game board geek in the evenings, as well as the producer of Tech Time Radio and our Gadgets and Gear gal. 00:18:27.993 --> 00:18:31.450 Let's get ready to start our Comcast video stream and our next segment. 00:18:33.540 --> 00:18:35.327 What's new in our Gadgets and Gear. 00:18:36.681 --> 00:18:38.027 All right, Gwen, welcome to the show. 00:18:38.027 --> 00:18:42.383 Tell us a little bit about yourself for any new listeners that would be listening for their first time. 00:18:43.263 --> 00:18:44.545 Certainly certainly Hi everybody. 00:18:44.545 --> 00:18:45.744 Listeners that would be listening for their first time. 00:18:45.744 --> 00:18:46.526 Certainly certainly Hi everybody. 00:18:46.526 --> 00:18:50.709 I'm Gwen and I have been in the tech world for a little over a quarter of a century. 00:18:50.709 --> 00:18:53.330 I've decided to go with that instead of just 25 years. 00:18:53.451 --> 00:18:55.011 Okay, I like that, there you go. 00:18:55.132 --> 00:18:55.712 It sounds good. 00:18:55.712 --> 00:19:01.557 And speaking of sounding good, every word out of Mark's mouth, that whiskey sounds amazing. 00:19:02.057 --> 00:19:06.528 Wow, yeah, okay, all right, thank you Gwen. 00:19:06.627 --> 00:19:07.469 Are you serious? 00:19:07.469 --> 00:19:08.892 Are you serious right now? 00:19:08.892 --> 00:19:09.432 I really don't. 00:19:10.381 --> 00:19:10.903 Okay, gwen. 00:19:10.903 --> 00:19:12.429 Well, technology meets fashion. 00:19:12.429 --> 00:19:20.066 At our fingertips we have this new device that is born the world's first ring-shaped Bluetooth mouse. 00:19:20.066 --> 00:19:31.386 Tell us what this device is, tell us why someone would use it, tell us what this gadget is and explain this to me in layman terms, because I looked at this and I got so many questions. 00:19:32.307 --> 00:19:37.431 Oh, I had questions as well and I read into it and I just love it. 00:19:37.431 --> 00:19:45.277 I've been a fan of wearable technology, from smart watches to health apps Just all of it is fun. 00:19:45.277 --> 00:19:54.430 This particular one, though, appeals greatly because it is just what you said a ring mouse and that's how you can find it on Kickstarter Search ring mouse. 00:19:54.430 --> 00:19:58.268 Basically, what this allows you to do is a couple of different things. 00:19:58.268 --> 00:20:04.112 It's just a ring, you put it on and you're able to use it just like any regular mouse. 00:20:04.112 --> 00:20:23.365 You can use it for presentations, you can use it if you're in a meeting and want to be subtle about doing work while you're in that meeting and uh, you can also probably use it to mess with other people's work if you want to that was, that was my, that was where you're going. 00:20:23.424 --> 00:20:28.833 first I kind of figured Can I do with that like you would do with an old TV remote? 00:20:28.833 --> 00:20:34.215 You know where you would be able to switch your neighbor's TV, so I guess if you connected it to their computer as a Bluetooth device. 00:20:34.236 --> 00:20:34.900 If you connect to their Bluetooth. 00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:37.688 Yep, exactly that's awesome. 00:20:37.729 --> 00:20:37.969 All right. 00:20:37.969 --> 00:20:40.587 So let me tell you does this work only on a Mac environment? 00:20:40.587 --> 00:20:41.570 Does this work on a PC? 00:20:47.220 --> 00:20:47.681 What does environment? 00:20:47.681 --> 00:20:48.143 Does this work on a pc? 00:20:48.143 --> 00:20:48.704 What does this work with? 00:20:48.704 --> 00:20:49.185 This is pretty open. 00:20:49.185 --> 00:20:50.028 It's just like any bluetooth mouse. 00:20:50.028 --> 00:20:51.894 You can use it for max, you can use it for windows machines. 00:20:51.894 --> 00:20:57.311 I do not know whether it will actually work on a linux machine or not. 00:20:57.311 --> 00:21:03.147 I had asked that question and, uh, had not gotten an answer yet okay, all right, so you got this. 00:21:03.509 --> 00:21:04.190 It's so. 00:21:04.190 --> 00:21:05.914 I, I'm looking at it and again you. 00:21:05.914 --> 00:21:09.548 All you got to do is, I guess, go to kickstarter and search for ring mouse. 00:21:09.548 --> 00:21:11.461 They got a good name right. 00:21:11.461 --> 00:21:16.712 There's no other ring my mouse out there uh, tell me how many people have backed it? 00:21:16.712 --> 00:21:18.224 How many days to go? 00:21:18.224 --> 00:21:19.589 How much is their fund? 00:21:19.589 --> 00:21:20.452 Are they fully funded? 00:21:20.452 --> 00:21:24.470 Tell us the the kind of the metrics they're on on all of that good stuff. 00:21:24.490 --> 00:21:26.402 Yeah, uh, they are fully funded. 00:21:26.402 --> 00:21:28.851 They were looking for two

thousand dollars to start. 00:21:28.851 --> 00:21:31.400 They're up to 75 000 already. 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:43.857 They've got slightly over 800 people backing it and it is available until april 24th okay, wow, until april 24th now yep this is interesting. 00:21:44.111 --> 00:21:52.821 I don't know if I would ever wear a ring for a mouse, so I'm struggling with the application processes of why you would actually use. 00:21:52.821 --> 00:21:54.193 Would, you wear a mouse for a ring. 00:21:54.193 --> 00:21:58.452 No, I wouldn't do that way either but I might be a little big. 00:21:58.673 --> 00:22:01.079 Yeah, I just so. 00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:06.497 So, oh, I'll try to understand this. 00:22:06.497 --> 00:22:08.211 Why would I use this If I'm at? 00:22:08.211 --> 00:22:12.461 So I saw their big thing that they said well, mice are loud. 00:22:12.461 --> 00:22:18.022 Okay, I guess if you bang a mouse on a table constantly in a meeting it could be loud, but you know what? 00:22:18.022 --> 00:22:22.598 I think you can be pretty quiet with mice, so I don't think that's a huge of the items. 00:22:23.932 --> 00:22:26.038 The sound wasn't really the big thing for me. 00:22:26.038 --> 00:22:28.050 Of the of the. 00:22:28.050 --> 00:22:29.053 Uh, the sound wasn't really the big thing for me. 00:22:29.053 --> 00:22:52.255 Okay, the thing that really interests me is, as my career progresses, as I'm sure many others uh, I'm doing a lot more presentations now, okay, and it's much easier if you're up there speaking, to just click a button on a ring than it is to either have one of the you know, actual remote controls or try to use your actual mouse or have one of those floating mice that they have now. 00:22:52.255 --> 00:22:58.133 This just seems much simpler and less distracting okay, okay, I, I guess now. 00:22:58.575 --> 00:23:03.000 So there's looks like there's two buttons on here and then there's like a little screen type of deal. 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:03.630 What's that let's? 00:23:03.630 --> 00:23:07.275 I didn't quite understand what the screen area was for little screen type of deal. 00:23:07.295 --> 00:23:07.976 What's that let's? 00:23:07.976 --> 00:23:09.679 I didn't quite understand what the screen area was for. 00:23:09.679 --> 00:23:26.060 That's that's actually a pointer that you can use okay, so that you're able to, you know, not only advance slides, uh, in the presentation, but also point to things on the slide yeah, and you can now mess with your cat, with a mouse, oh a ring with the arena okay that's not the 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:28.604 joke buddy it's fine, move on, okay. 00:23:28.604 --> 00:23:33.798 So you know, most of the time I I buy, I did not look to back this. 00:23:33.798 --> 00:23:37.527 So so tell us though, now, what's the price? 00:23:37.527 --> 00:23:38.028 Now? 00:23:38.028 --> 00:23:40.271 Hopefully you don't have to pay import tariffs. 00:23:40.271 --> 00:23:42.816 No, joking aside, I mean, who knows? 00:23:42.816 -->

00:23:45.480 Is the company local? 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:47.343 Is it in the United States? 00:23:47.343 --> 00:23:48.423 Is it overseas? 00:23:48.884 --> 00:23:49.125 It is. 00:23:49.125 --> 00:23:51.055 It's out of Arvada Colorado. 00:23:51.355 --> 00:23:53.201 Okay, which is good, that's nice. 00:23:54.131 --> 00:23:58.130 Currently you can still get some of the early bird specials, All right. 00:23:58.130 --> 00:24:03.355 So, for example, if you want to get the stainless steel version, it's only $69. 00:24:03.355 --> 00:24:11.265 If you want to kind of bump it up a little bit and get the titanium alloy, it is currently $89. 00:24:11.724 --> 00:24:13.166 You know, I guess that's 69 bucks. 00:24:13.166 --> 00:24:20.824 That's not that bad, because if you pay for a high-end mouse right now, you're paying about 49 to 69 bucks for a mouse with that. 00:24:20.990 --> 00:24:24.000 You know, my biggest thing now is how long is it going to last? 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.719 Because you know I got a Fitbit last February. 00:24:26.719 --> 00:24:32.218 Okay, it has a one-year warranty yeah my warranty ran out this february. 00:24:32.659 --> 00:24:40.584 My fitbit stopped working last night, so yeah, so you're just out of the warranty thing, yeah just out of the warranty. 00:24:40.644 --> 00:24:42.271 The fitbit completely fails. 00:24:42.332 --> 00:24:45.838 It bricked itself oh no, is there anything you can do to fix it. 00:24:47.382 --> 00:24:51.596 I tried everything that is suggested on the internet and it didn't work. 00:24:51.596 --> 00:24:57.739 No and even throwing it against the wall didn't help so put it in the freezer for a few hours. 00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.621 So how long does the battery? 00:24:58.621 --> 00:24:59.000 How do? 00:24:59.102 --> 00:25:00.951 you charge, I guess, how do you charge this ring? 00:25:00.991 --> 00:25:13.021 that is a good aspect for that there is a container that charges it, kind of like what you have for airpods okay, for the apple devices, so you're able to put it in its container. 00:25:13.021 --> 00:25:15.107 It charges it each charge. 00:25:15.107 --> 00:25:18.637 If you fully charge it is up to 10 hours of use. 00:25:18.637 --> 00:25:27.061 If you need a just really quick charge that you can do something specific, if you charge for about five minutes it will last for about an hour. 00:25:27.061 --> 00:25:27.924 Okay, so that you can do something specific. 00:25:27.944 --> 00:25:29.328 If you charge for about five minutes, it will last for about an hour. 00:25:29.328 --> 00:25:30.977 Wow, okay, that's actually pretty reasonable. 00:25:30.977 --> 00:25:35.038 So it's like a mouse charge for that, yeah but again, how long will it last? 00:25:37.176 --> 00:25:47.460 I mean physically, if it's a titanium ring, it probably will last quite a bit, right yeah, but how long will the functionality functionality work? 00:25:48.101 --> 00:25:52.500 well, since it's bluetooth, I'm sure it only does like you got button

click here, button do here. 00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:56.297 So you got two buttons and, and uh, in a laser pointer it's not. 00:25:56.297 --> 00:26:06.919 So if you look at that, I guess that's not that sophisticated, because if you have two buttons, what happens, though, if you're wearing the ring and you hit the buttons and then it's connected to your computer and it opens up? 00:26:06.919 --> 00:26:09.743 I'm struggling. 00:26:10.391 --> 00:26:12.178 What are you dancing around there, buddy? 00:26:12.178 --> 00:26:14.157 Well, you said it opens up stuff. 00:26:14.157 --> 00:26:17.215 You know what other people see, or you're in a presentation. 00:26:17.215 --> 00:26:17.897 That's what I'm thinking. 00:26:18.109 --> 00:26:19.256 I think you're in a presentation. 00:26:19.256 --> 00:26:21.618 All of a sudden it goes back to the Windows screen Right. 00:26:21.618 --> 00:26:23.994 So you actually double click on it and it does a double click. 00:26:23.994 --> 00:26:27.041 You actually double click on it and it does a double click. 00:26:27.041 --> 00:26:29.126 It goes out of your window and then you have to. 00:26:29.126 --> 00:26:30.569 Now, it's not going to be. 00:26:30.569 --> 00:26:33.450 You can't navigate your ring to go left and right Cause it's only the buttons right, so I couldn't get it back. 00:26:33.450 --> 00:26:39.602 So here I'm on stage going help, help, and then someone's going to have to plug in a physical mouse, put it down, move it around. 00:26:47.550 --> 00:26:48.252 And then I'll say your ring. 00:26:48.252 --> 00:26:48.674 So I am okay. 00:26:48.674 --> 00:26:54.215 I think you would definitely have to practice with it before using it for a presentation but I still think the usability is there okay, all right, well, so so are you gonna? 00:26:54.355 --> 00:26:56.104 are you gonna get the delorean version? 00:26:56.104 --> 00:26:57.229 Are you gonna get the upgrade? 00:26:57.229 --> 00:26:58.132 I'm getting zero of these. 00:26:58.132 --> 00:26:59.674 The question goes. 00:26:59.694 --> 00:27:02.241 The question goes no, I'm actually gonna get zero of these. 00:27:02.241 --> 00:27:07.277 I have no real interest, but gwen the listeners want to, are you going to get one of these units? 00:27:08.479 --> 00:27:09.401 I think I am. 00:27:09.401 --> 00:27:13.854 I'm going to go ahead and go for the stainless steel, because I don't need anything too fancy. 00:27:13.854 --> 00:27:17.403 I just want something that I can easily flip slides with. 00:27:18.410 --> 00:27:18.509 Tina. 00:27:18.509 --> 00:27:29.155 Would be really cool though, I guess is if you had this like to your wife's phone and you add the Bluetooth without her noting, and then she's like sitting there and she's scrolling through and all of a sudden you start scrolling through it's like what the heck's going on to my computer? 00:27:29.155 --> 00:27:30.836 What the heck's going on to my iPhone? 00:27:30.836 --> 00:27:31.732 I think. 00:27:31.772 --> 00:27:32.599 Nathan's talking about me to it. 00:27:32.619 --> 00:27:33.930 That would be like an April Fool's joke. 00:27:33.930 --> 00:27:36.338 Yeah, you weren't here for my previous joke, were you? 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:43.061 Well, no, I mean no, I was. 00:27:43.082 --> 00:27:51.038 but I mean this is yeah, I would take it to the office and hook it into other people's computers and be like messing with them and you just walk over to them because he doesn't look like. 00:27:51.069 --> 00:27:57.950 You have a mouse and you're just walking over there and you're like clicking and sliding and you get one of these boring things and as Nathan talks himself into it. 00:27:59.156 --> 00:28:01.811 I think both of you might be buying these now. 00:28:01.811 --> 00:28:04.068 That sounds great practical joke. 00:28:04.913 --> 00:28:19.490 I was on board when you first started talking about it, because I immediately saw the practical joke part of it especially when you're bucks especially when you're you know all these stupid, boring meetings with everybody in their power points. 00:28:19.490 --> 00:28:21.234 Can you imagine sitting there? 00:28:21.375 --> 00:28:24.122 just taking over the next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next. 00:28:24.391 --> 00:28:35.371 And you're like okay, now we're done, like yeah or you know, keep, keep it on the same one, and every time they move it, just move it back, and just just okay, all right. 00:28:35.391 --> 00:28:36.292 Okay, all right. 00:28:36.292 --> 00:28:38.317 Well, you know, all right. 00:28:38.317 --> 00:28:42.132 Well, gwen, it's always great having you talk about new gadgets on the show. 00:28:42.132 --> 00:28:45.240 Um, we want to thank you for being a part of the show. 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:54.554 I realized we only get 12 unique items per year because you're on once a month, so when we actually go through all these items, I end up well, that's good for you, mr. 00:28:54.615 --> 00:28:55.636 Mr, buy everything. 00:28:55.696 --> 00:29:06.057 I only buy about 10 of these things, so this is the one that I may pass, but you know what that's okay well, the more you think about all that stuff that we were talking about. 00:29:06.057 --> 00:29:11.537 Just think if I was doing that over here and then all of a sudden Odie's trying to run the board there and all of a sudden they slide up and slide down. 00:29:12.530 --> 00:29:13.496 Odie I'm sorry. 00:29:13.849 --> 00:29:17.320 Well, of those 10 items, how many do you actually receive? 00:29:17.990 --> 00:29:19.557 Normally like 7 of the 10. 00:29:19.557 --> 00:29:21.021 Normally it's like 3 that don't go through. 00:29:21.021 --> 00:29:23.892 That's still more than half he buys 100. 00:29:23.991 --> 00:29:25.794 He gets eight back. 00:29:25.794 --> 00:29:27.536 That's how it works. 00:29:27.635 --> 00:29:29.178 I just got this new dot one. 00:29:29.178 --> 00:29:30.919 Did you ever remember the dot thing that we had? 00:29:30.919 --> 00:29:33.021 I just got that.

00:29:33.021 --> 00:29:37.266 It finally came in Well, Gwen, thank you for being a part of the show. 00:29:41.096 --> 00:29:42.000 We will see you next month Sounds good. 00:29:42.589 --> 00:29:43.117 Where can people find you? 00:29:43.117 --> 00:29:43.829 Where can people find you online? 00:29:44.609 --> 00:29:50.820 Well, you can find me on LinkedIn, but really the best place to find me is the tech timers group over on facebook there you go. 00:29:50.961 --> 00:29:51.823 They talk to gwen. 00:29:51.823 --> 00:29:53.294 You can ask her about lots of gadgets there. 00:29:53.294 --> 00:29:55.609 All right, thank you so much for being a part of our show. 00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:59.681 Gwen bye, gwen, thank you bye all right, that is our segment gadgets and gear up. 00:29:59.681 --> 00:30:02.573 Next we have mike's mesmerizing moment. 00:30:02.573 --> 00:30:08.141 Welcome to mike's mesmerizing moment. 00:30:08.141 --> 00:30:11.266 What does Mike have to say today? 00:30:11.266 --> 00:30:13.334 All right, my question for you, mike. 00:30:13.334 --> 00:30:22.537 We're getting into the time when a new video game like Grand Theft Auto is going to come on out, and it looks like the starting price of a video game is going to be in the $100 range for a video game. 00:30:22.537 --> 00:30:25.772 Is this something that we are going to pay for a video game? 00:30:25.772 --> 00:30:35.740 Because when I look at my entertainment value, I can go to a movie still for under $20, and they're asking me now to start paying a hundred dollars for a video game. 00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:38.332 And Grand Theft Auto will have microtransactions in it. 00:30:38.332 --> 00:30:44.575 So I'm going to pay a hundred bucks and then I'm going to be microtransacting another 200 to $300 for this game. 00:30:45.657 --> 00:30:46.640 So what do you want to know? 00:30:46.640 --> 00:30:49.916 If people are going to go for it, yeah, well, yeah, they're absolutely going to go. 00:30:49.916 --> 00:30:54.039 We train people to do this from the very outset. 00:30:54.039 --> 00:31:08.637 Okay, you know, we use addictive things to get them hooked and then we train them that things are going to go higher priced and everybody just sort of absorbs it and like for me, probably not. 00:31:08.637 --> 00:31:14.805 You know, I'm not, I wouldn't consider myself that that much of a gamer, in that I will. 00:31:14.805 --> 00:31:16.971 I'm like always on the hot new titles. 00:31:16.971 --> 00:31:20.097 I, I like my games and I played the same game. 00:31:20.097 --> 00:31:29.903 But these folks that are gamers and they're always trying to jump to the next new thing yeah, don't pay for it, so you're going to pay $500 for this new Nintendo device that comes on out. 00:31:30.002 --> 00:31:30.403 Yeah, not me. 00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:35.509 Okay, and then the consumers are asked to spend $75 to $100. 00:31:35.892 --> 00:31:41.261 I think it's ridiculous, but then again I think things are ridiculous that most people just ignore. 00:31:41.849 --> 00:31:46.739 So like $1,000 could easily be spent in like the first month of your purchase of this new Nintendo. 00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:46.940 Switch. 00:31:46.940 --> 00:31:47.520 Yeah, why not? 00:31:48.021 --> 00:31:48.702 And that's okay. 00:31:48.823 --> 00:31:49.605 A thousand bucks. 00:31:49.605 --> 00:31:50.354 Do you know how? 00:31:50.374 --> 00:31:51.930 many movies I can go to for a thousand. 00:31:52.049 --> 00:32:01.424 Yeah, but the whole thing with the movies is the movie price is so low because odds are you're going to pay twice as much for the condiments that go with the movie. 00:32:01.424 --> 00:32:02.549 Okay, that's why that exists. 00:32:02.549 --> 00:32:03.611 That's why that exists. 00:32:03.611 --> 00:32:16.675 But we in this world and I don't think we really pay much attention to it, because it's just normal is that we go and we work so that everybody else and their mom can devise ways of separating us from our income. 00:32:16.675 --> 00:32:18.656 That's what marketing is. 00:32:18.656 --> 00:32:27.240 That's what all these gaming I mean with the gaming industry, the media every industry is trying to separate you from your dollars. 00:32:27.800 --> 00:32:31.123 They have been training us to do this from way back. 00:32:31.123 --> 00:32:33.624 They use all kinds of psychological tricks on you. 00:32:33.624 --> 00:32:37.404 I think it's a normal thing, but I don't think it should be. 00:32:37.404 --> 00:32:39.365 I think we should push back a lot on it. 00:32:39.365 --> 00:32:45.148 So I would hope that the gaming community would be like nope, I'm not buying that, it's too much. 00:32:45.148 --> 00:32:53.971 Odie, would you pay $100? 00:32:54.133 --> 00:32:54.614 for Grand theft auto. 00:32:54.614 --> 00:32:55.375 I've never played gta, so no, okay, okay. 00:32:55.375 --> 00:32:56.799 Would you pay 100 bucks for mario kart world? 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:57.761 No, no, mario kart 8, that's 60 bucks. 00:32:57.781 --> 00:33:02.117 Yeah, it should not be more than that see it's normalized now that games are 60 bucks. 00:33:02.117 --> 00:33:04.005 How much were games back when we were? 00:33:04.045 --> 00:33:04.246 kids. 00:33:04.246 --> 00:33:06.298 Okay, so pc games I went back to this, so pc games like sierra, online games and stuff were 35 to 49. 00:33:06.298 --> 00:33:06.853 Right, how much were games back when we were kids? 00:33:06.853 --> 00:33:11.121 Okay, so pc games I went back to this, so pc games like sierra, online games and stuff were 35 to 49 right. 00:33:11.280 --> 00:33:13.468 How much were, how much were nes games? 00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:28.336 I don't know about that, but thinking back to like the ds, that's my first major console yeah or portable console, however you want to 39 bucks a good game that was very popular, 40 bucks yeah, and that makes sense because you could take it anywhere. 00:33:28.336 --> 00:33:29.419 You could put it anywhere. 00:33:29.419 -->

00:33:33.059 Yeah, I was able to play on the DSI when they came out with the new one. 00:33:33.059 --> 00:33:37.835 Yeah, it did not matter what game I had, I didn't have to buy another one. 00:33:37.915 --> 00:33:44.525 But with this, you can't even play your own game, transfer it to another device. 00:33:44.525 --> 00:33:45.305 No, you have to have two of them. 00:33:45.305 --> 00:33:47.126 Yeah, so when you go traveling, you're going to be like boom, boom, boom. 00:33:47.126 --> 00:33:48.626 Here's my Switch 2 and here's my Switch original. 00:33:48.728 --> 00:33:49.928 Yeah, that's so ridiculous. 00:33:50.310 --> 00:33:50.993 Okay, all right. 00:33:50.993 --> 00:33:59.011 Well, yeah See, I don't know what you're talking about, because I remember buying NES games when I was younger, and you know, of course 29 bucks at Toys R Us. 00:33:59.092 --> 00:34:09.672 Yeah, it was always something affordable once I had above 59 I think now. 00:34:09.672 --> 00:34:10.596 I think now we're. 00:34:10.777 --> 00:34:17.097 We're just sort of edging into let's get away with what we can get xbox for that because when the xbox one came out. 00:34:17.177 --> 00:34:20.983 I remember something like forza yeah sixty dollars. 00:34:20.983 --> 00:34:26.653 But it made sense for the console, like those, graphics were great for the time. 00:34:26.653 --> 00:34:31.615 But now would I pay 60 bucks for a digital copy of a game? 00:34:32.137 --> 00:34:35.592 No, Well, that ends our mesmerizing moment. 00:34:35.592 --> 00:34:36.775 What are you? 00:34:36.976 --> 00:34:40.253 going to say I don't think it was very mesmerizing, real quick yes. 00:34:40.605 --> 00:34:43.695 Gwenny over here says that it's like boiling a frog. 00:34:43.695 --> 00:34:47.996 They raise the prices a little bit at a time and we don't notice and just keep paying more. 00:34:48.016 --> 00:34:48.376 That's right. 00:34:48.376 --> 00:34:56.487 But now it's to the point where you're not even owning what you're buying, you're just paying somebody, you're licensing it, leasing it, but. 00:34:56.586 --> 00:34:56.907 NES. 00:34:56.907 --> 00:34:57.608 Again. 00:34:57.608 --> 00:35:00.737 Those were like 40 to 50 bucks a game when it came on out. 00:35:00.737 --> 00:35:03.327 So again, I don't know if it's changed too much From. 00:35:03.347 --> 00:35:03.387 PC. 00:35:03.407 --> 00:35:04.889 I don't know if it's changed too much from PC to the games. 00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:06.349 It's changed, but not as much. 00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:08.931 It used to cost more to make a game, too, everybody's doing. 00:35:08.931 --> 00:35:11.614 How, how do you mean? 00:35:11.614 --> 00:35:13.195 Well, you had to have a plastic container. 00:35:13.215 --> 00:35:14.958 You had to have chips that you had to burn. 00:35:14.958 --> 00:35:16.880 So those were actual hard cost prices. 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.442 Nowadays, when you do a game, all it is is software. 00:35:19.442 --> 00:35:23.690 When you release a software version

of a game, you're just putting code out there that somebody downloads. 00:35:23.690 --> 00:35:24.351 There is no. 00:35:24.351 --> 00:35:27.137 There is cost for people to develop it the testers. 00:35:27.137 --> 00:35:38.492 I totally understand there's development costs, but the actual physical costs are much less than what they used to be back when you had a cartridge and you had to have ROMs that were in there and a bunch of testing and burning of the ROMs. 00:35:38.804 --> 00:35:40.251 Yeah, but it was your game. 00:35:40.532 --> 00:35:40.994 It was true. 00:35:41.264 --> 00:35:45.114 I have a bunch of my games at home that I own that. 00:35:45.114 --> 00:35:47.458 I can't play because I don't have even a Wii anymore. 00:35:48.505 --> 00:35:49.791 Thank you for that mesmerizing moment. 00:35:49.791 --> 00:35:51.490 We're going to head out on a commercial break. 00:35:51.490 --> 00:35:53.510 You're going to see us in just a couple minutes. 00:35:53.510 --> 00:35:55.074 Hey, mike, yeah, what's up? 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00:37:13.434 --> 00:37:24.440 One of Apple's computer three's co-founders departed just 11 days after founding the company, selling his 10% stake for $800. 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:31.163 During his brief tenure, wayne created the first Apple logo, drafted the company's partnership agreement and wrote the manual for the Apple I. 00:37:31.163 --> 00:37:40.954 He decided to leave because the partnership agreement imposed unlimited personal liabilities on all the co-founders, no matter which partner accrued the debts. 00:37:40.954 --> 00:37:50.094 In contrast to Jobs and Wozniak, who were both 21 and 25 at the time, wayne had his own personal assets vulnerable to creditors. 00:37:50.094 --> 00:37:58.891 Additionally, prior failures of a slot machine venture which launched five years earlier influenced his choice to withdraw from the partnership. 00:37:58.891 --> 00:38:03.954 Wayne later remarked either I was going to go bankrupt or the richest man in the century. 00:38:03.954 --> 00:38:15.413 By 1982, his 10% share of Apple Computer had grown to the value of $1.5 billion, which has now soared to $22 billion in 2010, and then saw hindsight 2020. 00:38:15.413 --> 00:38:18.454 Right now, it'd be worth about $22 billion. 00:38:19.485 --> 00:38:21.411 Maybe this was a tech fail, not a. 00:38:21.612 --> 00:38:22.195 Well, no, no, no. 00:38:22.195 --> 00:38:23.349 This is just a history thing. 00:38:23.349 --> 00:38:27.094 Our tech fail will be a tech fail. 00:38:27.094 --> 00:38:27.637 So there you go. 00:38:27.637 --> 00:38:33.831 Sometimes you have an opportunity to invest in something and if you do it you can make it. 00:38:33.831 --> 00:38:34.434 Sometimes you don't. 00:38:34.434 --> 00:38:35.248 I can see it. 00:38:35.248 --> 00:38:35.952 He was kind of scared. 00:38:35.952 --> 00:38:39.856 He had two young kids spending his money and he would be liable. 00:38:39.856 --> 00:38:43.672 He's like I don't know if these guys are going to make it, but clearly they did. 00:38:43.672 --> 00:38:47.286 That was this week in technology. 00:38:47.286 --> 00:38:55.635 If you ever wanted to watch some Tech Time history, with over 230 weekly broadcasts spanning four plus years of video, podcast and blog information, you can visit us at techtimeradiocom to watch our new shows. 00:38:55.635 --> 00:38:56.907 We're going to take a commercial break. 00:38:56.907 --> 00:38:59.155 When we return, we have the Mark Mumble Whiskey Reveal. 00:38:59.155 --> 00:39:00.146 See you after this. 00:39:00.567 --> 00:39:04.056 Hello, my name is Arthur and my life's work is connecting people

with coffee. 00:39:04.056 --> 00:39:15.219 Story Coffee is a small batch specialty coffee company that uses technology to connect people to each product resource, which allows farmers to unlock their economic freedom. 00:39:15.219 --> 00:39:19.952 Try our Medium Roast Founder Series Coffee, which is an exotic bourbon variety that is smooth, fresh and elegant. 00:39:19.952 --> 00:39:24.806 At storycoffeecom that's S-T-O-R-I coffeecom. 00:39:24.806 --> 00:39:33.273 Today you can get your first bag free when you subscribe at storycoffeecom with code tech time that's S-T-O-R-I coffeecom. 00:39:38.547 --> 00:39:42.637 The segment we've been waiting all week for Mark's Whiskey Mumble. 00:39:47.891 --> 00:39:48.534 All right. 00:39:48.534 --> 00:39:52.795 Well, somebody at this table is celebrating April 8th today. 00:39:52.795 --> 00:39:54.871 Oh, and what is that? 00:39:54.871 --> 00:39:57.494 It's Trading Cards for Grownups Day. 00:39:57.494 --> 00:39:59.358 Oh, fantastic. 00:39:59.398 --> 00:40:00.244 I love trading cards. 00:40:00.606 --> 00:40:04.215 Now, a collection of trading cards by grownups is usually considered childish. 00:40:04.215 --> 00:40:05.847 What Trading Cards for Grownups? 00:40:05.847 --> 00:40:10.632 Day is a day for people pretending to be adults to show their trading cards and be proud of their collection. 00:40:10.632 --> 00:40:11.213 Oh, I am. 00:40:11.213 --> 00:40:16.708 It is celebrated by them to try and normalize the collection of trading cards by those that are not children anymore. 00:40:16.708 --> 00:40:18.074 What a day. 00:40:18.273 --> 00:40:18.474 It is. 00:40:18.474 --> 00:40:19.891 Do you know how many trading cards I have? 00:40:21.706 --> 00:40:22.746 This is not no. 00:40:22.746 --> 00:40:28.273 If there were a museum of old toys, it would be you, okay. 00:40:28.413 --> 00:40:29.494 So I do have a lot of. 00:40:29.494 --> 00:40:30.275 I also big. 00:40:30.275 --> 00:40:32.077 I have Michael Jordan's rookie. 00:40:32.077 --> 00:40:38.788 I got a whole bunch of stuff that's been slabbed and put a PSA ratings on, so I'm a big card collector. 00:40:38.788 --> 00:40:42.989 I never got into Magic, the Gathering or any of those games at the time, I just did really sports cards. 00:40:42.989 --> 00:40:43.731 It was kind of my thing. 00:40:43.731 --> 00:40:44.755 Garbage Pail Kids. 00:40:51.965 --> 00:40:53.409 Now time I just did really sports cards was kind of my thing. 00:40:53.409 --> 00:40:53.851 Garbage pail kids. 00:40:53.851 --> 00:40:55.815 Now let's talk about an adult that had better things to do than trading cards. 00:40:55.815 --> 00:40:56.538 Oh wow, okay, joseph magnus story. 00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:57.922 I think it marks on the childish, childish side of that equation. 00:40:57.922 --> 00:41:03.034 So joseph magnus story begins all the way back in the young, war-torn america in the middle 19th century. 00:41:03.034 --> 00:41:10.831 Now, during the civil war in 1864, young magnus has received news that

his father had been killed in battle, with three younger siblings to take care of. 00:41:10.831 --> 00:41:14.431 He matured quickly and took on the responsibility of caring for his siblings. 00:41:14.431 --> 00:41:19.735 His late father had been a merchant and Magnus took after him to become a savvy businessman. 00:41:19.735 --> 00:41:23.434 He soon discovered a niche market for wholesale liquors. 00:41:23.434 --> 00:41:29.675 By the time he was 26, he had painstakingly built up a liquor empire. 00:41:29.675 --> 00:41:34.958 Now, magnus prided himself not only on the quality and age of his spirits, but on intelligent and honorable business methods. 00:41:34.958 --> 00:41:39.432 Excellent whiskey, he recognized, was more than simply a pleasant experience for drinkers. 00:41:39.432 --> 00:41:46.670 It was a means of promoting good conversation, close fellowship and the interchange of kindly deeds and pleasant thoughts. 00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:49.130 That's why we drink. 00:41:49.130 --> 00:41:50.246 That's why we drink. 00:41:50.246 --> 00:41:51.771 That's why, because of pleasant thoughts. 00:41:52.233 --> 00:41:55.614 Yeah, no, I drink right now because both of my kids are getting married. 00:41:55.614 --> 00:41:56.246 That's why. 00:41:56.286 --> 00:41:56.889 I drink. 00:41:56.989 --> 00:41:59.050 I thought there were other reasons to drink too. 00:41:59.788 --> 00:42:00.530 At the end of the show. 00:42:00.530 --> 00:42:03.253 Somebody heard you on the radio talking about that. 00:42:03.253 --> 00:42:05.210 Nathan and I have a present for you. 00:42:05.465 --> 00:42:08.030 Oh, okay heard you on the radio talking about that, nathan, and I have a present for you. 00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:08.831 Oh, okay, from that person. 00:42:08.831 --> 00:42:09.132 Okay, all right. 00:42:09.132 --> 00:42:09.594 Is it alcohol? 00:42:09.594 --> 00:42:10.275 Maybe whiskey chris? 00:42:10.275 --> 00:42:10.916 Was it whiskey chris? 00:42:10.916 --> 00:42:14.670 You'll have to wait and see, but yes okay about the whiskey. 00:42:15.152 --> 00:42:19.967 This one is a thinker, not only throughout sipping it but also every time I've had it. 00:42:19.967 --> 00:42:23.097 It's a roller coaster of flavors, delivering new ones at each turn. 00:42:23.097 --> 00:42:30.018 It has rich dark fruit, rais raisins and dark chocolate and lots of flavors of ruby port without that cloying sweetness. 00:42:30.018 --> 00:42:35.173 The finish on this lasts forever and brings along with it some nice crisp apple. 00:42:35.173 --> 00:42:38.893 I hope to savor this bottle and will enjoy every pour of it. 00:42:39.135 --> 00:42:41.130 Okay, so you know what I really did not like it. 00:42:41.130 --> 00:42:44.568 Oh, I know you don't, but I'm starting to get a little bit. 00:42:44.949 --> 00:42:46.452 So it's not. 00:42:46.452 --> 00:42:57.257 I would never pay the price for this and I would never ask and recommend this from any place that I would be at, but I will say that it is maybe not as bad

as I first had when I had the first bite of it. 00:42:57.257 --> 00:42:58.137 Okay, all right. 00:42:58.137 --> 00:43:05.880 Well, whiskey and technology are a great pairing, just like the TV show Ren and Stimpy from Nickelodeon 1991 and 1995. 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:06.505 Remember Ren and Stimpy. 00:43:07.166 --> 00:43:08.833 All you have to say is Ren and Stimpy. 00:43:08.833 --> 00:43:10.831 I don't think you have to describe where you're. 00:43:10.831 --> 00:43:12.865 Do you know how to tell a joke, odie? 00:43:12.905 --> 00:43:14.291 was like who the heck are those? 00:43:14.291 --> 00:43:15.831 She didn't even know what I was talking about. 00:43:16.405 --> 00:43:16.867 No, I think. 00:43:18.005 --> 00:43:18.989 You know why I made that face? 00:43:18.989 --> 00:43:20.972 Why is he telling me it was on TV? 00:43:21.112 --> 00:43:29.099 Because we just talked about how childish you are and here you are talking about a Nickelodeon show Absolutely Ren and Stimpy baby you were well into your 20s when that came out. 00:43:29.380 --> 00:43:35.032 Let me just tell you, I still watch South Park pretty religiously myself South. 00:43:35.052 --> 00:43:40.869 Park makes sense, the classic Ren and Stimpy was just yeah then there was Nickelodeon. 00:43:41.405 --> 00:43:44.465 Had it for a bit you are so stupid, Stimpy, that's right. 00:43:44.465 --> 00:43:49.610 Then MTV got it for like a season or two and then they kind of like went they were trying to do the Beavis and Butthead type of deal. 00:43:49.610 --> 00:43:51.512 But all right, there we go, continuing on. 00:43:51.512 --> 00:43:56.998 All right, let's prepare for our technology fail of the week brought to us by Elite Executive Services. 00:43:56.998 --> 00:43:58.378 We are out of time. 00:43:58.378 --> 00:44:01.302 Congratulations, you're a failure. 00:44:04.605 --> 00:44:04.827 Oh, I failed. 00:44:04.827 --> 00:44:09.188 Did I yes, did I yes, did I. 00:44:09.972 --> 00:44:11.217 Yes, all right. 00:44:11.217 --> 00:44:16.960 Well, this week's technology failure kind of comes to us from this company called DOGE have you ever heard of this? 00:44:16.980 --> 00:44:17.963 Is it a cryptocurrency? 00:44:17.963 --> 00:44:18.864 No, it's not cryptocurrency. 00:44:18.864 --> 00:44:20.170 I think we'll take a little drink of this one. 00:44:21.072 --> 00:44:21.353 All right. 00:44:21.353 --> 00:44:23.367 And what is happening with the staff for Social Security? 00:44:23.367 --> 00:44:25.851 And what is happening with the staff for Social Security Now? 00:44:25.851 --> 00:44:31.677 Doge offered layoffs at Social Security and plans to get the IT team and the website. 00:44:31.677 --> 00:44:33.400 Continuity is breaking. 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:56.045 No-transcript is. 00:44:56.045 --> 00:44:58.934 They're having problems with the traffic on their current website. 00:44:58.934 --> 00:45:13.416 So those people that are trying to use Social Security services through the website have actually been hit with crashes, unable to go to the site itself because the senior department officials said that they do not have adequate people for their IT team. 00:45:13.416 --> 00:45:21.414 Their IT team consists of about 4,000 members and they've already been told that they should expect at least 800 or more to be laid off next week. 00:45:22.144 --> 00:45:28.050 Now I also heard that they claim that they're going to rewrite the whole Social Security underlying code which is on Cobalt. 00:45:28.050 --> 00:45:34.092 Yeah, and rewrite it in three months, okay, and make it all perfect and all easy and all perfect, okay. 00:45:34.152 --> 00:45:35.617 Well, you know what that's going to be interesting? 00:45:35.637 --> 00:45:36.739 They should be game designers. 00:45:37.021 --> 00:45:37.762 They should be game designers. 00:45:37.762 --> 00:45:38.304 Oh wait, Maybe they are. 00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:45.876 It could be like Bethesda, day one and then you have to write the whole patch and download the whole game. 00:45:45.896 --> 00:45:48.648 So that's what they're going to do they're going to write all this code, launch it. 00:45:48.648 --> 00:45:49.472 It's not going to work. 00:45:49.472 --> 00:45:52.407 Then they're going to spend eight years patching it until it doesn't work. 00:45:52.407 --> 00:45:54.853 Still, that's right, well hang on It'll be great. 00:45:55.235 --> 00:46:00.731 It'll be great Our technology fail is. 00:46:00.731 --> 00:46:02.954 I understand there this PSA out there for everybody. 00:46:02.954 --> 00:46:11.744 But please, if you're having problems with something already, it is not the ability to go in there and just cut everything so you can then see what happens. 00:46:11.744 --> 00:46:15.835 You need to be able to fix those items first before you go and cut. 00:46:16.226 --> 00:46:17.342 We're going to head out to our last commercial. 00:46:17.342 --> 00:46:19.512 So you mean, like measure twice cut once. 00:46:19.952 --> 00:46:22.090 No, no, well, no, not even measure twice. 00:46:22.090 --> 00:46:22.853 That's not how it is. 00:46:22.853 --> 00:46:23.956 Just do an evaluation. 00:46:23.956 --> 00:46:31.304 It's cut five times, measure none, and then just put wood glue back together for any of the pieces that you cut incorrectly, right there you go. 00:46:31.304 --> 00:46:33.512 Alright, we're going to head out to our last commercial break. 00:46:33.512 --> 00:46:37.181 When we return, we have our Nathan Nugget of the week and, of course, our pick of the day. 00:46:37.181 --> 00:46:38.193 So sit back, raise a glass. 00:46:38.193 --> 00:46:40.306 You're listening to Tech Time Radio with Nathan Mumm. 00:46:40.608 --> 00:46:42.072 How to see a man about about a dog. 00:46:42.072 --> 00:46:50.831 It combines darkly comic short stories, powerful poems and pulp fiction prose to create a heartbreaking and hilarious journey readers will not soon forget. 00:46:50.831 --> 00:46:53.092 Read how to See a man About a Dog. 00:46:53.092 --> 00:46:55.192

Collected Writings for free with Kindle. 00:46:55.192 --> 00:46:57.809 Unlimited E-book available on Kindle. 00:46:57.809 --> 00:47:01.875 Print copies available on Amazon, the Book Pository and more. 00:47:02.327 --> 00:47:03.807 This is your Nugget of the Week, all right? 00:47:03.807 --> 00:47:06.820 Well, let's get ready for our Nathan Nugget of the Week, all right. 00:47:06.885 --> 00:47:08.251 Well, let's get ready for our Nathan Nugget. 00:47:08.251 --> 00:47:08.365 Now. 00:47:08.365 --> 00:47:12.393 Microsoft is celebrating 50 years, and I worked for them for one-fifth of that time. 00:47:12.393 --> 00:47:15.132 I have a quiz here for Mike, mark and Odie. 00:47:15.132 --> 00:47:24.416 Let's take a look at some of the important red-letter dates for Microsoft and compare them to what we have available now in our Microsoft 50 quiz. 00:47:24.416 --> 00:47:30.664 Here's what we go, all right, do we know when the beginning is considered, when Microsoft was founded? 00:47:30.664 --> 00:47:32.451 Does anybody know what date that is? 00:47:32.965 --> 00:47:33.969 The date or the year. 00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:35.568 Well give me the year. 00:47:35.568 --> 00:47:38.331 Give me the year 1988. 00:47:38.492 --> 00:47:40.775 Nope, Odie do you have an idea? 00:47:41.117 --> 00:47:42.318 No, okay, I really don't. 00:47:42.378 --> 00:47:42.900 Mark, do you have an? 00:47:42.940 --> 00:47:45.757 idea 1975, probably around April 4th. 00:47:46.784 --> 00:47:47.085 Somebody. 00:47:47.085 --> 00:47:47.231 I really don't. 00:47:47.231 --> 00:47:47.498 Mark, do you have an idea? 00:47:47.498 --> 00:47:49.259 1975, probably around April 4th. 00:47:49.259 --> 00:47:50.050 Somebody read their script ahead of time. 00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:50.295 That is correct. 00:47:50.295 --> 00:47:50.440 Ding, ding, ding. 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:50.643 Good job. 00:47:50.643 --> 00:47:52.510 Microsoft was founded from the humble Is that in the script. 00:47:52.610 --> 00:47:53.414 Yeah, it was in the script. 00:47:53.414 --> 00:48:00.898 In the humble beginnings, microsoft grew quite frequently with the personal computer and software company. 00:48:00.898 --> 00:48:02.666 All right, we're going to take a look at the next thing Now. 00:48:02.666 --> 00:48:05.148 Everybody's heard of Microsoft Word right Now. 00:48:05.148 --> 00:48:09.311 It was officially launched as a revolutionary document creation process. 00:48:09.311 --> 00:48:17.117 It was actually competing with a product in the market that had 95% of the share, which was called WordPerfect WordPerfect which is a much better product. 00:48:17.177 --> 00:48:20.039 It was it was, but Microsoft Word came on out. 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:21.501 Does anybody know what date it came on out? 00:48:21.501 --> 00:48:22.641 1988. 00:48:22.641 --> 00:48:25.748 No, a little earlier, a little earlier, a little earlier od. 00:48:25.748 --> 00:48:26.871 Do you have any idea on this? 00:48:26.871 --> 00:48:29.126 It was like 84 was mark. 00:48:29.186 --> 00:48:30.548 Oh, one year before, mike. 00:48:30.548 --> 00:48:31.030 Oh, there you go. 00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:34.577 1983, 1983 october 29th. 00:48:34.617 --> 00:48:35.137 That is correct. 00:48:35.137 --> 00:48:39.657 Now, do you know what was the price that you had to pay in 1983 for a copy of microsoft word? 00:48:39.657 --> 00:48:42.367 20 bucks, nope, 79 dollars for a copy. 00:48:42.387 --> 00:48:42.887 It was a video game. 00:48:42.887 --> 00:48:43.789 It was a video game. 00:48:43.789 --> 00:48:45.134 It was $80. 00:48:45.253 --> 00:48:46.557 It was $80 for the productivity. 00:48:46.557 --> 00:48:48.251 Guess how much you pay now for it? 00:48:48.251 --> 00:48:51.894 Nothing, because it is now available in the Office Suite for free. 00:48:51.894 --> 00:49:01.130 If you create a Microsoft account or a Bing account, you can go online and use Microsoft Word on the web version for free for everybody to use today. 00:49:01.184 --> 00:49:03.534 Didn't that lead to Microsoft getting in trouble? 00:49:03.534 --> 00:49:08.047 Well, they got in trouble for lots of stuff, having lead to microsoft getting in trouble. 00:49:08.067 --> 00:49:08.608 Uh well, they got in trouble. 00:49:08.608 --> 00:49:13.039 Monopoly, yeah, something like all right now the biggest thing here microsoft, windows 95, big, big deal. 00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:18.431 It was at least released in 1995, but do you know which month it was released? 00:49:18.431 --> 00:49:19.733 In 1988. 00:49:19.733 --> 00:49:21.918 No well, that was the better version. 00:49:21.918 --> 00:49:23.628 Do you know what? 00:49:23.708 --> 00:49:24.751 month was it released. 00:49:26.456 --> 00:49:27.706 April, nope Mark. 00:49:27.706 --> 00:49:29.612 I think it was the best month of the year. 00:49:29.612 --> 00:49:30.353 What was that? 00:49:30.353 --> 00:49:30.856 November? 00:49:31.204 --> 00:49:31.947 Is that the best month? 00:49:31.967 --> 00:49:32.210 of the year. 00:49:32.210 --> 00:49:34.088 No, it was November. 00:49:34.088 --> 00:49:34.710 I was wrong. 00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:35.534 I thought it was August. 00:49:36.268 --> 00:49:38.637 No, November 20th 1985. 00:49:38.637 --> 00:49:43.431 And it actually shipped with a bunch of issues that were a problem. 00:49:43.431 --> 00:49:44.487 What's that, Cody? 00:49:44.708 --> 00:49:45.753 Were you asking for the month? 00:49:45.974 --> 00:49:46.153 Yes. 00:49:48.208 --> 00:49:49.112 You're off there, buddy. 00:49:50.835 --> 00:49:54.463 Excuse me, it was August 24th 1995. 00:49:54.483 --> 00:49:59.653 Yes, no, you were talking about the first Windows, not Windows 95. 00:49:59.653 --> 00:50:01.070 You mixed the two up. 00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:02.931 The first Windows version they released. 00:50:02.951 --> 00:50:05.268 You worked there for I meant Windows 95. 00:50:05.268 --> 00:50:06.934 I'm for, I meant Windows 95. 00:50:06.934 --> 00:50:08.452 I'm sorry, I meant Windows 95. 00:50:08.452 --> 00:50:10.532 Windows 95 was August.

00:50:11.266 --> 00:50:14.204 No, Windows 95 was August of 1995. 00:50:14.847 --> 00:50:16.775 I still want to know why August is the best month of the year. 00:50:16.775 --> 00:50:20.976 I'm looking at the thing right now, November 20th 1985. 00:50:21.146 --> 00:50:22.115 Windows is released. 00:50:22.115 --> 00:50:24.469 Windows opened up a new era of multitasking. 00:50:24.489 --> 00:50:25.554 That wasn't Windows 95. 00:50:25.554 --> 00:50:28.092 That was the original Windows, windows 3.1. 00:50:28.092 --> 00:50:29.288 Remember that early. 00:50:30.907 --> 00:50:34.264 I guess I'm looking at the picture of the Windows 95 release, but it was actually. 00:50:35.068 --> 00:50:35.228 Windows. 00:50:35.268 --> 00:50:35.911 Word perfect. 00:50:35.911 --> 00:50:38.253 Microsoft may be wrong on that thing. 00:50:38.253 --> 00:50:38.969 There, there you go. 00:50:38.969 --> 00:50:40.684 Okay, now we're continuing on. 00:50:40.684 --> 00:50:43.827 So Odie now has the same thing, so she can go ahead too. 00:50:44.088 --> 00:50:45.128 She's cheating too. 00:50:45.128 --> 00:50:47.130 All right, Mike will know this next one. 00:50:47.210 --> 00:50:49.693 I still want to know why August is the best month of the year. 00:50:49.954 --> 00:50:50.733 It's his birthday. 00:50:50.753 --> 00:50:51.074 Leo. 00:50:51.635 --> 00:50:52.976 Internet Explorer is released. 00:50:52.976 --> 00:50:55.518 Internet Explorer was competing with another. 00:50:55.518 --> 00:50:56.940 Does everybody know what they were competing against? 00:50:57.340 --> 00:51:06.786 Nobody cares, netscape, netscape, big time at the time percent of the market. 00:51:06.806 --> 00:51:07.728 Yeah, came on out, it was august 24th. 00:51:07.728 --> 00:51:08.510 Better product august 24th. 00:51:08.510 --> 00:51:13.824 Escape was yeah, yep 1995 and msn has launched as a debut with windows 95 on august 24th 1995. 00:51:13.824 --> 00:51:19.835 It was the combined of news and technology for the msnbc uh arm. 00:51:19.835 --> 00:51:21.538 That uh really kind of failed. 00:51:21.538 --> 00:51:23.407 Uh was not a really good I adventure. 00:51:23.407 --> 00:51:29.614 But they do have MSNBC now as its own news article and then you have MSN. 00:51:29.614 --> 00:51:31.918 Let's move on to your favorite one. 00:51:31.918 --> 00:51:33.085 When was the Xbox? 00:51:33.144 --> 00:51:34.652 Well, you didn't answer the question. 00:51:34.652 --> 00:51:35.951 When did MSN come out? 00:51:35.951 --> 00:51:38.632 Msn came out in August. 00:51:38.833 --> 00:51:41.027 August 24th, msn and. 00:51:41.228 --> 00:51:41.509 IE. 00:51:41.509 --> 00:51:43.554 All were launched with Windows 95. 00:51:44.445 --> 00:51:46.833 I'm just clarifying I didn't hear the month. 00:51:47.728 --> 00:51:56.449 Maybe I'm just stuck on the fact that August is the best month of the year, the Xbox console the original Xbox console, the one that I actually worked in helped put all the hardware in this bad boy. 00:51:56.851 --> 00:51:58.596 It came out in 1988. 00:51:58.596 --> 00:51:59.947 2001,. 00:51:59.947 --> 00:52:00.771 November 15th. 00:52:01.527 --> 00:52:02.250 Space Odyssey. 00:52:02.250 --> 00:52:04.152 We can skip the next one. 00:52:04.405 --> 00:52:06.067 The next one just does not matter. 00:52:06.126 --> 00:52:09.150 Bing was launched in June 3rd 2009. 00:52:09.150 --> 00:52:10.931 Just move on to the next one. 00:52:10.951 --> 00:52:12.411 Microsoft Edge is released. 00:52:12.572 --> 00:52:13.293 Nobody cares. 00:52:13.333 --> 00:52:16.036 Nobody cares about Edge, April 29th 2015. 00:52:16.056 --> 00:52:17.396 That one took me by surprise. 00:52:17.396 --> 00:52:20.340 For some reason in my mind I just thought that was older than that. 00:52:20.699 --> 00:52:22.942 No, Edge is just the Internet Explorer. 00:52:25.244 --> 00:52:26.610 That's because it works like an old person. 00:52:26.690 --> 00:52:30.349 I still use Google Chrome and Firefox, and Brave is my browser. 00:52:30.349 --> 00:52:31.052 I really don't use. 00:52:31.052 --> 00:52:32.034 Edge Okay. 00:52:32.364 --> 00:52:34.670 Cheers to Microsoft 50 years. 00:52:34.670 --> 00:52:36.655 50 years here we go there, we go. 00:52:36.675 --> 00:52:37.757 Cheers, cheers. 00:52:37.757 --> 00:52:39.971 I'm glad to know that I'm older than Microsoft. 00:52:39.971 --> 00:52:40.753 There you go. 00:52:40.753 --> 00:52:41.775 All right, there we go. 00:52:49.925 --> 00:52:50.927 Now, though, let's move on to our pick of the day. 00:52:50.927 --> 00:52:52.190 And now our pick of the day for our whiskey tastings. 00:52:52.190 --> 00:52:54.012 Let's see what bubbles to the top. 00:52:54.032 --> 00:53:00.449 Okay, we are drinking today to Joseph A Magnus the Murray Hill Club Special Release batch four. 00:53:00.449 --> 00:53:04.733 And batch four is a blend of eight and 17-year-old bourbon finished in Cavados Cass. 00:53:04.733 --> 00:53:08.030 It's 111 proof, $200. 00:53:08.030 --> 00:53:08.952 Are you giving it a thumbs? 00:53:09.032 --> 00:53:11.195 up yeah dude, this is awesome. 00:53:11.195 --> 00:53:12.277 I love this. 00:53:12.277 --> 00:53:13.320 I'm giving it a thumbs down. 00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:17.570 It does not hit my palate at all and you know I feel really bad. 00:53:17.570 --> 00:53:18.456 Do you want the rest of my? 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:19.125 $200? 00:53:19.125 --> 00:53:19.125 . 00:53:19.125 --> 00:53:21.766 You don't have a palate buddy, I'm sure Mike will finish that. 00:53:21.766 --> 00:53:22.208 There you go, okay. 00:53:22.208 --> 00:53:22.449 Finish that. 00:53:22.449 --> 00:53:22.809 There you go, okay. 00:53:22.809 --> 00:53:24.291 All right, I got a couple things for you, nathan. 00:53:24.452 --> 00:53:25.735 Yep, what do we got going on here? 00:53:26.577 --> 00:53:29.766 First of all from Whiskey Chris. 00:53:29.766 --> 00:53:30.590 He heard about your two weddings. 00:53:30.590 --> 00:53:38.871 He also listened to one of your shows that's our one listener out there and he heard that remember

he'd given us this bottle to review Traveler's Whiskey. 00:53:38.871 --> 00:53:40.246 Yeah, and you just loved it. 00:53:40.326 --> 00:53:40.686 I did. 00:53:40.686 --> 00:53:43.409 Oh, thank you, Whiskey Chris, Whiskey Chris. 00:53:43.409 --> 00:53:46.693 I can fill my cup with this and neither one of us wanted it. 00:53:46.713 --> 00:53:48.195 It's not a drink for a connoisseur. 00:53:48.235 --> 00:53:49.936 Can I get that one? 00:53:50.398 --> 00:53:51.878 No, no, that's my bottle, dang it. 00:53:52.579 --> 00:53:52.900 All right. 00:53:52.900 --> 00:53:55.570 And then also oh, you got more stuff here. 00:53:55.625 --> 00:53:59.016 You had given me a wine bottle, so I'm returning that to you empty. 00:53:59.405 --> 00:54:01.047 It was phenomenal. 00:54:01.047 --> 00:54:02.990 This is Woodinville Wine Cellars. 00:54:02.990 --> 00:54:04.012 You love this. 00:54:04.112 --> 00:54:05.536 Phenomenal wine. 00:54:05.536 --> 00:54:07.518 Every wine from there has been terrific. 00:54:07.518 --> 00:54:10.610 Each one is more of a gets better and better. 00:54:10.610 --> 00:54:12.425 Thank you for these gifts. 00:54:12.989 --> 00:54:15.489 I have a bunch of not weddings happening this year. 00:54:15.489 --> 00:54:16.413 Can I get some whiskey? 00:54:17.425 --> 00:54:21.934 You can have the leftover in Nathan's glass I didn't backwash. 00:54:22.686 --> 00:54:23.711 Well, you know what fans. 00:54:24.164 --> 00:54:25.992 Thank you so much for being a part of our program. 00:54:25.992 --> 00:54:28.831 Is you the reason that we make this show? 00:54:28.831 --> 00:54:29.452 Well, maybe not. 00:54:29.452 --> 00:54:33.907 Maybe just for Mark and Mike and I just to have a good time hanging out together. 00:54:34.007 --> 00:54:34.710 And drink a little. 00:54:34.931 --> 00:54:35.413 That's right. 00:54:35.413 --> 00:54:40.719 Well, we want to let everybody know that the science of tomorrow starts with the technology of today. 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:42.007 See you guys next week Later. 00:54:42.007 --> 00:54:43.012 Bye-bye. 00:54:47.585 --> 00:54:48.414 Thanks for joining us on Tech Time Radio. 00:54:48.414 --> 00:54:50.710 We hope that you had a chance to have that hmmm moment today. 00:54:50.710 --> 00:54:51.413 In technology. 00:54:51.413 --> 00:54:53.010 The fun doesn't stop there. 00:54:53.010 --> 00:55:02.327 We recommend that you go to techtimeradiocom and join our fan list for the most important aspect of staying connected and winning some really great monthly prizes. 00:55:02.327 --> 00:55:10.661 We also have a few other ways to stay connected, including subscribing to our podcast on any podcast service from Apple to Google and everything in between. 00:55:10.661 --> 00:55:15.394 We're also on YouTube, so check us out on youtubecom. 00:55:15.394 --> 00:55:18.141 Slash TechTimeRadio all one word. 00:55:18.141 --> 00:55:23.074 We hope you enjoyed the show as much as we did making it for you From all of us at TechTimeRadio. 00:55:23.074 --> 00:55:26.713 Remember mum's the word have a safe and fantastic week.