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Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
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Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
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courses for more than four decades. She is the author
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of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
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takes you on a journey into how to live your
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best life and find your true purpose through discovering the
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origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
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with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
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to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
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changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
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are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
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based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken to
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align with and embody your true self and live a
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life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
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and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Royce Morales.
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Hello, Welcome everyone. I'm so glad you're here and I'm
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so excited to introduce you to my amazing guest today.
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Let me just tell you a little bit about her
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as well as the intention for today. Because I've noticed
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and I've been doing this for a long time, not
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only teaching, but doing my own inner work. I've noticed
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that a lot of times people start experiencing something that
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is very common. We do all the spiritual work, this
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deep spiritual work or you know, emotional work or whatever
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it is, and we generally start to feel awakened. Nothing
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feels the same anymore. But what happens after you awakened
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you go back to the same nine to five job.
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Do you find something else to do? I mean, there's
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a feeling of I'm not in the right place anymore,
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or there's something I'm supposed to be doing, or what's next.
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So Jennifer Spore is a spiritual coach. She's an ACASIC
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records expert, a former corporate powerhouse, and she walked away
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from the boardroom and into doing her purpose. And I
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always say purpose with a capital P, because it's something
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that I believe we all know what it is inside
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of us, and we're all here to discover it. We're
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striving to reach that point. But I find that if
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we're coming from a place of triggering or fear, it's
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just not going to unfold. It just won't. So the
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first step really is doing the inner work. So that
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you can do your purpose from a pure, intentional place.
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That's what she's going to talk about. She's also going
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to talk about what she refers to as her over soul,
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and I'll have her explain what that means in case
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people out there don't know. And she's devoted to the
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lived realization of divine design in physical form. I love
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that phrase. It's perfect. She works with women, and I'm
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going to find out why that is. I can pretty
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much tell, but I'll ask. She works with women who
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are no longer seeking awakening as a method, but are
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ready to inhabit who they already are. In other words,
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we're awake, and what do we do with it?
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She?
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Uh?
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What else about her? She helps people to tangibly live, lead,
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and create from inner authority, coherence and truth. Rather than
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teaching systems or guiding others through stages of initiation or
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dealing with their inner stuff. Jennifer's work functions through presence
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and resonance, and she does all kinds of things that
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she's going to explain. And one of the things that
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she reminds all of us about, and I just have
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to say it in the beginning, she reminds us that
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we have all been sent here to remember, return and
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embody who we truly are, an anchor spiritual realization into
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a tangible, embodied life. In other words, we just can't
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sit around on the mountaintop anymore her navel. We got
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to do something with it, especially now, really now, So welcome, Jennifer.
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I'm so honored to have you here.
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Royce, thank you so much. I am super grateful to
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be here, and thank you just so much for the
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warm welcome.
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Oh gosh, well you deserve it.
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So.
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First of all, I always like to have my guests
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give us a little bit of their background. How did
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you get started in this what's your story? How did
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it unfold in your life?
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Absolutely so, like so many others of us, right, I
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had a whole of our life before this one.
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I have been.
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Focused on this work full time for about ten years now.
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I've been consciously focused on my own journey of evolution here,
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for gosh, probably closer to seventeen years now. So before
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I got in to this work, I worked in the
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retail industry for gosh, probably I mean over twenty three years,
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probably closer to twenty four years, and I loved what
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I did for a long time, and I was one
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of those people who I started out as a sales
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associate at nineteen. You know, I had a very conscious
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conversation with myself at the age of nineteen because when
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I was a little girl and pretty much growing up
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as a kid, I always wanted to be a teacher,
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and I was on my own, and I thought, you
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know what, do I want to pay all the money
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that I'm going to have to pay and go into
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debt and go to college and pursue traditional academia, or I.
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Just started this great job that I'm really loving and
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am I going to follow that?
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And so even at the age of nineteen, right I was,
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I was like, I'm going to, you know, see where
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this retail thing goes, so, you know, toward the end
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of my career, so basically, I worked my way up,
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really enjoyed what I was doing for a long time,
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and toward the end of my career before I began
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to transition into this work, I was a director of
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store operations for a large retail company at the time,
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and I oversaw probably about twelve hundred stores.
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So I had a.
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Really fulfilling career and what happened was I reached the
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place where there were no boxes.
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There were no more boxes to check off the list.
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I was in my mid to late thirties, and there
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were no more promotions. There wasn't anything else that I
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felt like I had yet to have experienced. And that's
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really when I like to say, the fog was starting
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to lift, you know, because I had checked off the
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boxes of what traditional society tells us we need to
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follow this chronological path and path right to achieve success.
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And so I really just started contemplating, you know, what
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was next for me When I thought there wouldn't be
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anything else.
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I thought I would be at that job and that
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I would.
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Retire, and important to mention, I am you know gen X, Right.
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So I come from a generation where we're taught to
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believe that staying in the same career and job for
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most of your life is what you need to do.
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And so that and of itself was a huge kind
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of revelatory thing, because it's like when you don't think
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that there's going to be anything else, than what else
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is there? So the gateway to opening myself up to
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this awakening and to everything that I ended up experiencing
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after that was really due to meditation. So I had
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to say, it's another story and of itself, but I've
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always been very sensitive.
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Okay, and.
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I felt guided to meditation. It felt really natural to
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do it, and it was really committing to a daily,
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seven day a week practice was really the key to
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unlocking everything. It really brought me in deeper connection with
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the truth of who I was and to really figure
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out what I was being called to. And I want
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to say that, you know, I didn't meditate one day
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and it came to me this whole life that I
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was living, and so I took action. It didn't exactly
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unfold like that, so to continue on right I was
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meditating for a few months feeling stronger and stronger feelings around, Wow,
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this life I'm in right now is not for me anymore.
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And despite those feelings, I did not take action at
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the time because of fear. I was questioning myself around, well,
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I have this established career, what would happen if I
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left it? And how would I make money? And all
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of the things that come from being conditioned in the
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societal programming that you can only achieve success in your
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life in.
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A certain way.
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And I also didn't follow the traditional path of academia either.
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I didn't have a college degree, so all of those
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questions came up, you know, where else would I go?
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So I didn't take action, and it was probably another
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year year and a half passed, and then my mother
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at the time was diagnosed with terminal cancer. And at
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the time I was living in the Northeast and she
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was living in Idaho, And so during that time, I
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was flying back and forth a lot, trying to manage
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this career that I was in a high level leadership role,
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and it took up a lot of my time and
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energy quite franquently and managing that and trying to be
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helpful for my family and to spend time with my mom.
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I remember as clearly as if it were yesterday, where
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I was in Idaho in her apartment. It was just
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a few days before she transitioned, and I was sitting
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next to her bedside, and my phone started, you know, ringing,
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blowing up, going whatever about an issue that was happening,
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a fire that needed to be put out in that
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now moment with my work, and I remember very clearly
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observing that that was happening, looking at my phone, looking
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at that, and then looking over at my mom, knowing
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that this was probably going to be the last visit,
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the last time that I would see her before she passed.
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decided I was done. I made a vow to myself
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in that moment that I had absolutely no idea what
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was going to come next. I didn't have any answers
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to all the questions I've been asking myself.
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was anymore.
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That my that inner knowing it was such a strong,
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palpable feeling that I just had to move on, And
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that was that was the moment. And it wasn't like
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I had everything all figured out.
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I had nothing figured out. I ended up.
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with because at the time, listen, at the time, I
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wasn't wanting.
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life the same way that I had been and back then,
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remote working wasn't a thing, wasn't a culture. So I
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had to make a decision, and at the time, I
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wanted to move back out to Idaho after my mom
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passed to be closer to my family. At the time,
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I still had grandparents and I have a younger sister
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that lives out here. So I had to make a decision,
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and I made the decision that if it came down
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to that, then I was going to choose to move
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to be closer.
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I did stay on with my company for a short
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time after that in a consulting capacity, essentially just to
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support in wrapping up projects where I had been a
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stakeholder before.
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maybe I just need to get a job with a
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new company, right because I had been with my current
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company for like sixteen years, maybe that's the answer.
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way along into my purpose into this. But so I
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actually even did a few interviews for positions where I
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should have been a shoe in, right, But each time
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interviews went amazing, but there was always kind of some
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strange anomaly that would happen that would end up it
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not being the right fit. And so after a couple
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of those I started to get the message. You know,
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I meant to pursue something else. So I went again
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into another deep season of reflection. You know what am
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I truly feeling called to do? If I could wake
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up every day and commit myself to a path that
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my whole heart was invested in, you know what would
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that look like?
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to start my own business. I wanted to be a
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coach at the time, and I wanted to work with
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other women who were just a few steps behind me
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on the journey, right, who essentially were me, who were
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in these leadership roles with their life out of balance
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right over, committed, tired, starting to feel burnout, starting to
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feel like, you know what else is next, because this
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is not it anymore. Those were the women that I
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initially started working with. And that's really how the transition happened.
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when I made that decision by my mom's bedside, but
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I just did. And it really required me to anchor
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myself in the day to day of my life at
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that point, right to make those decisions as they were
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coming along. Something else I feel guided to share about
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this story is that.
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About my husband because at the time I was single,
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you know, but before any of this even surfaced.
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starting to feel like I needed to make a big change.
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would go to work, you know, for me to wake
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up and live my life doing the work that I
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of my dreams, and to also.
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that every day.
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very much in a space of transition figuring out what
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I would truly being called to dedicate my life to,
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I reconnected with someone that I had dated in high
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school in Idaho before I moved, when I was like sixteen.
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in my little apartment in Idaho by myself, you know,
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feeling sick, right, I was sick with something, and I
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was on Facebook, you know, and I was like, oh,
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his name literally popped into my awareness and I had
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not been in touch with him at all, and I thought, oh,
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I wonder what he's up to and I so I thought, oh,
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his name in and see if he has a profile
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in here. I typed his name in, it popped up.
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I had no agenda at the moment. I was just curious,
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right because I'm like, I kind of can't really do
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much because I'm not feeling good. So it turns out
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he had been married but was divorced, had three grown children,
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and so I thought, you know, what, what the heck,
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from the mass, you know, like, what have you been
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up to? I did that, and we were messaging back
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and forth, just you know, catching up essentially for a
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few days. We met up in person, and the rest
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is history. We started dating and got married almost three
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years later, and then that's it. So it's a really
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good example in terms of the importance of our willingness
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to make a decision about something that we don't have
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to have all of the answers. We just have to
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honor what we're feeling called to, and then every thing
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else unfolds. I mean, if you would have told me
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that things were going to that my prayers were going
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to be answered.
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In the way that they were.
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able to comprehend that at all.
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It's always amazing to me when you just know something
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and there's no logic behind it, and you take action,
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terrified taking action, but it all makes sense, it all
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comes together.
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catalyzing time in my life. And it also, although as
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profound as it was, right, it was also the beginning
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of all other journey that I would embark upon, right
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because yeah, I even thought it myself. You know, I've
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been in this leadership role. I've achieved so much. You know,
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I am starting an online business, no sweat right, Well, now,
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a lot of my real world experience has certainly been
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a contribution right to my work. And being visible in
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the way that you need to be visible when you
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know you have a mission, you know you have a
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purpose that you're here to fulfill, is a whole other
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layer of allowing yourself to be seen in the world.
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Yes, definitely, it's interesting as you're talking and thinking and
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this is something that I've had to learn. I'm sure
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you've had to learn it, and maybe our viewers are
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still learning it. But when you get those the sense
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that you need to take action, or you need to
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quit your job, or you need to message your friend
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on Facebook, and you I don't take that action, it's
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almost like everything falls apart and or everything gets even
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louder to get you to take that action. Do you
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find that
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in your body right when you know you're being called
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to do something, and you may have even already made
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the decision internally, but you're just still choosing not to
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take action on it for a lot of reasons, right
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in the moment that his name popped into my awareness,
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I had no agenda. I wasn't wondering anything. I was
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just truly in a space of that's interesting that his
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name comes into my awareness after all this time, and
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you know what, let's check it out.
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Let's just see what he's been up to for the
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lot twenty five years sudly, you know, however long it was.
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times as well, is cultivating the qualities of both humility
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and curiosity on this journey is so important, right, because
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it's that curiosity and that willingness to move forward into
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a space right knowing that you don't feel equipped. It's
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it really is so fundamental to our ability to evolve.
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Yeah. Yeah, I find a lot of times when I
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work with people and they're having some kind of a
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physical issue going on, and we take a deeper spiritual
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look at it, it's because they're not doing what they
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know they're supposed to be doing, even saying hey, because.
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the physical. Absolutely, And as much as I going back
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to my prior career, as much as I genuinely loved
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that work for so long, there was also a lot
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of stress, a lot of you know, stress that was
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stored in my body from pushing myself to work longer hours,
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more than my body wanted me to work. There were
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still just a lot of things I was doing that
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were in direct resistance to how I wanted to live
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day to day.
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M Yeah, well, this is something that I mentioned earlier
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before we were on and you had somewhere I had
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read that you experience and dark knight of the soul?
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How did that lead you to deeper levels of awareness
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or even lead you into what you're doing? Because I
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find that, you know, as I always say it, whatever
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it takes to get us to do what we're supposed
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to do, or to get us to change, or to
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get us to get to the truth, and dark knights
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of the soul oftentimes are what it takes. So tell
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us about what happened with you with that.
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own experience and that of supporting other clients, how these
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dark nights of the soul happen? You know, we are
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I mentioned earlier on in the conversation about how I
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had checked off all the boxes off the list of
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what traditional society tells us it means to achieve success. Well,
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what happens with a dark knight of the soul is
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that you're so deeply conditioned to believe that life is
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lived a.
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Certain way, right, and then when.
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You make a decision such as the one I did
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to make that leap of faith, while you suddenly find
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yourself in a space in your life that is uncharted
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for you because everything your entire life that you've thought
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that it took to live your life, to take care
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of yourself to achieve success.
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Kind of goes out the window.
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Yes, because we live in a world that, while there
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is more awareness right that there's more to life or
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whatever than there has been in ever in years past,
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we still live in a society that very much conditions
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us to go outside of ourself for answers. And so
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when you find yourself in a space where you've taken
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a leap of faith and you don't have all the answer,
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but you can't use what you know in terms of your.
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Ability to problem solve right to come up.
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With those answers, it stirs up all of your resistance
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and it also stirs up any past trauma that you've
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experienced as well, experiences in your life where you've just
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kind of pushed them down because again you've been taught
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that vulnerability.
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Is weakness both.
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You know, all humans experienced that, right, But for me,
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as a woman specifically having been someone who worked their
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way up and achieved a certain level of success.
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In there at like thirty two years old, I had
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a cheat, you know, held an executive position not only
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as young as I was one of the only women
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at the time, and so getting used to feeling like
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you always have to prove yourself right, and then finding
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yourself in a space where it's like, okay, I have
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to throw everything about how I've lived and what I
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thought I needed to do to take care of myself
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and evolve out the window.
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You naturally question yourself because it's like.
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Well, how do I make money?
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Now? What am I being called to?
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So you essentially just get into this very dark space
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where you're questioning yourself and you're just not knowing right
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where to go, and that can bring up a very
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dark season. It can bring up depression, It can lead
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you to question your very existence, you know, And that's
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really what a dark night of the soul is.
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You're having this very deep.
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Awakening and it's not even just an awakening, it is
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a remembrance because you are starting to remember the truth
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of who you are, that there's a greater purpose for you,
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whatever that is that you're being called to. And so
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it's really the dark night of the soul is really
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that season where you're in that space of deep awakening,
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deep remembering your questioning how you've lived your life, how
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to move forward in a way that you're honoring yourself
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and your truth moving forward. And so what got me
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through that? And there's been a couple of them after that,
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you know, after the first one, as I continued to evolve.
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But what has always? What has always?
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I want to reword this to say, you know, I've
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always stayed no matter what the season, I've always stayed.
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always brought.
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Myself back to center.
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I've always brought myself back to no matter what is
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happening in my external reality right now, no matter how
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much I'm questioning myself or how I'm feeling, I know
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that there's something greater. I know I'm being called to something.
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And then later on in the journey, right I know
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when I'm being called too. That has always kept me
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very grounded.
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Yeah, that's great. So I know that in the intro
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I said that you talk about oversoul. Can you kind
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of give an idea of what that means to you?
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Is that you're hirer self? Is that your spirit over
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soul is a word that people may not understand.
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Your over soul.
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So everyone at this point is probably heard of living
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soul lead, right, living from your soul, Okay, and then
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there's your oversaul.
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Our over soul is our.
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Primordial being, our i Am, which you've probably heard the
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term of right.
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Our over soul is the.
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Overarching essence of our collective existence. Living soul lead or
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when you hear the reference to soul, your soul as
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it relates to your current incarnation here is a fragment
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of your oversaul. So your over soul transcends incarnations, lifetimes,
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all of your experiences.
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And so.
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There's a difference between
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your over soul.
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So living soul lead looks like you might channel your
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highest self, or you might tune in on something right
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and then take steps on your journey in alignment with that.
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you're no longer channeling or tuning in because you're living
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as that version of yourself. You're living as your I
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Am twenty four to seven. And every decision you make,
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every conversation you have, all that you do and who
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you are is an expression of that in this human life.
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The doubts on your journey, the questioning right, the push
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and pull of isolating yourself, it all dissolves because you're
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truly living in your body expressed as the truth of
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who you are. That is typically if someone is hearing
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this for the first time, it can feel kind.
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Of like, you know, I need to marinate.
497
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For a while, right, But that is that is true embodiment.
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You know a lot of people talk about embodiment, teach
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about embodiment, but a lot of that is in concept.
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Yeah, this is lived reality. You know.
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There is there's no separate mission, there is no separate business,
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there is no here are my relationships, here's my purpose,
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It's all one.
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I know the truth of who I am. I know
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what I'm here to do.
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And I wake up every day and go to bed
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every night with that at the forefront of my awareness always.
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It transcends meditation. Like I said, it's not tuning in,
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it's not channeling.
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It's who I am.
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All the time. So I would love to hear more
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about how you help people get there, you know, how
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does that happen? We do need to take a bit
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of a break, So hold that thought and we'll be
515
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right back. I'm talking to Jennifer Spot and we're going
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Welcome back. I'm talking with Jennifer Spore and we were
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just talking about oversoul and I think your definition of
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it is really perfect, but as you said, it might
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be a little bit hard to understand. Yes, definitely, but
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I think it's great. So tell us, because I know
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you work with people to help them access it or
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live from it or experience it. Tell us what that
560
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looks like.
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Yes, absolutely, thank you. And so I work with mission
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led women, And earlier you did mention something about you
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know why I work with women and I have worked
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with men in the past. I just find that organically
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I tend to attract women, and it makes logical sense
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because you know, our higher calling right our mission here,
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our purpose here is always directly connected with our own
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lived experience, and so I tend to attract people who are,
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you know, on a similar path. So anyway to move forward,
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I work with women who are mission led, who are
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already leading, who are already putting themselves out in the world,
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who are already living soul led, who already know the
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truth of who they are, but they're experiencing a level
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of instability and delay essentially in fully bringing into physical
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form the life that they know that they're here for
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and that they're ready to live. They're already living that
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higher calling, but they're experiencing some push and pull right
578
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like they and a couple of ways that that may
579
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:37.079
show up in the physical is their visibility is inconsistent, right, Like,
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they're authentic in their work and what they're pursuing in
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the world, but they may be showing up only when
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they feel inspired. And inspiration is certainly profound and it's
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a fundamental part
of the journey. But when you're here
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to fulfill a purpose, to fulfill a mission that you
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innately feel called to, it's very important to have structures
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in place, right that support that. So these women are
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not showing up consistently, and they may be feeling wobbly
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in their foundation on their journey because they're putting themselves
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out there, and if they're not feeling like they're getting
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an immediate return in the physical they keep moving and
591
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shifting to offering something else or questioning themselves, right, like.
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Am I supposed to be doing this?
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Because I'm not getting the results that I feel like
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I should be experiencing from dedicating my life right authentically
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to this path. The reason why all this is happening
596
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is because they are still living in an element of
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separation consciousness. So they're living soul lad right, They're tuning
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into themselves. They know the truth of who they are,
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and they're following that guidance, and.
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They're still.
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Treating certain relationships in their lives and aspects of their
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lives like it's different, like it's outside of that. And
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so that is really what causes that instability or that
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feeling kind of wobbily. And so the work that I
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do introducing them to physically embodying that truth of who
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they are. They're over soul through their day to day living,
607
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not just their mission or or their purpose, right, it
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dissolves all of that.
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When they.
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Start palpably feeling physically in the cells of their body,
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the truth of who they are that changes, right, because
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you're living in a constant state of knowing, not just
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knowing when you meditate, not just knowing when you intentionally
614
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tune in. And so that is really the core of
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the work that I do, and it is a combination,
616
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it's not a specific modality. And I work primarily. I
617
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do offer group temples on occasion. I primarily work
with
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people privately because the journey of over soul embodiment is
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a very customized one, right, because everybody's I AM is
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unique and different, and so the path to reach that
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state is different for each woman as well.
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Can you give us a kind of a picture of
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what that looks like to help women get there.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely, So the space that I hold is a combination
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of channeling energetic, you know, channeling their oversaul energetic, it's
627
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energetic a kahok, and also somatic and structural. So I
628
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guide clients. I have a gift for when I'm in
629
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space with someone, I can immediately tune into what their
630
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highest path is in this life and where they're experiencing
631
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obstacles on that path, and so with their willingness right
632
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to participate in that shift, I guide them into learning
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how to feel in their bodies where those obstacles are,
634
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and how to thematically dissolve them so that they're creating
635
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space for their over soul to fully occupy their body.
636
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And then beyond that, right.
637
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When they begin to feel embodied, then it is supporting
638
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them and navigating structurally the changes that begin organically coming
639
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forward for these women to make, whether it's refining their
640
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offerings in their work and how they're showing up in
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their mission work, or changes in their relationships. Money is
642
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.280
something that comes up often right because it's learning how
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to relate to creating resources and receiving resources in a
644
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different way from what they're used to. So despite the
645
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fact that there is so many of us out there right,
646
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women who have remembered, women who know the truth of
647
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who they are, and they are out there leading in
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the world.
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The number one.
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Challenge is that despite all of that, we can still
651
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find ourselves falling into this loop right of constructs around
652
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that there's a right way to show up or a
653
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.079
right way to be in order to achieve to fulfill
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our higher calling in this life.
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So that is at a high level, the journey that
656
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I am supporting them through.
657
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And what about dealing with people's fears and programming and
658
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you know, belief that they don't deserve to do things?
659
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Do you assist people with that?
660
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So there are fears right that come up on this journey.
661
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These women are in a space where they've done a
662
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lot of that inner work already. So when there is
663
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a fear that comes up or something that comes up
664
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from their subconscious that they weren't aware of prior, we
665
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tend to move through that pretty quickly because I'm holding
666
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space for them to identify why that's coming forward, and
667
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there's already a willingness with them to release it.
668
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And how do you know if somebody is ready, you know,
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are you able to sense that intuitively or you know,
670
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I'm just imagining somebody coming to you and saying, I've
671
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done all this work, so I'm ready, but they really aren't,
672
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can you tell? Yeah?
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So I can immediately feel whether or not they're ready,
674
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absolutely when someone invites me into their field, right, I
675
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can feel that I only step into space with someone
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with their consent. Right, So I can immediately feel whether
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or not they're ready yet. Because yes, sometimes someone is
678
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not experiencing their life in the way that they desire,
679
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.760
and they will say that they're ready because they're trying
680
00:47:01.800 --> 00:47:06.039
to force their own readiness, which I don't know about you,
681
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.280
but I've been in that space too, right, I've been
682
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.840
in the mental space of well, you know, based upon
683
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how many years I've been doing this and all of the.
684
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Things, like I should be ready, So yeah, I'm ready. Well,
685
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:20.760
it doesn't always, you know, work like that.
686
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.559
A sign that someone is truly ready, right, is in
687
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their willingness to participate, is in their willingness to move
688
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:35.599
forward because they know they're ready. They and they also
689
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:38.559
know that they don't have all of the answers, but
690
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:43.079
they're still ready. So it really lies in a level
691
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of willingness to participate when you don't have all of
692
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.599
the answers right, and to embrace all of the experiences
693
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that come forward.
694
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To aid you in truly.
695
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:02.159
Experiencing evolution, sustainable evolution.
696
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:03.320
On your journey.
697
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:09.159
It's that and it's how quickly they make decisions.
698
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.280
Right. So if someone is like, oh, this sounds.
699
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.400
Great, but I you know, got to spend some time
700
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.480
marinating in it, Like sometimes there is an element of that,
701
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:28.320
and when you're truly ready, you already know, it just
702
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.840
becomes You've already made the decision. Internally, it just becomes
703
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:39.559
you your mind allowing you right to choose that.
704
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:44.119
And sometimes we have to override the mind. Now, the
705
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.880
human mind obviously serves the purpose, otherwise we wouldn't have it.
706
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.519
The thing is is that when it comes to making
707
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:56.440
these kinds of decisions for your journey, the mind isn't
708
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.400
the main source that you want to look to to
709
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:03.559
make better decision because the human mind can only support
710
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:09.880
us in making decisions based upon our past experiences. So
711
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.440
this is why so many people get stuck in that
712
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.639
loop of kind of like being on the hamster wheel
713
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.880
and running in place right because they keep defaulting to
714
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.920
their mind to make all of decisions when it really
715
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.480
comes from your heart, it really comes from your own
716
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.840
inner knowing, and you're not going to have all of
717
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.159
the answers. But once you're tapped into that inner knowing,
718
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.119
you know whether something is true or not right, and
719
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if you're being called to it, then it's just like.
720
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Okay, I'm going to do it. I'm doing this. I
721
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have no idea what's gonna unvolved. I just know that
722
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I needed to go.
723
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.920
Yeah, and it's so hard for
people to trust that.
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We're really not taught to trust intact. In fact, most
725
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.840
of us were taught to not trust that trust logic,
726
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:08.039
you know. Yeah, so that's an interesting challenge. Yeah, I
727
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was thinking back when you were talking about people taking action.
728
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I was thinking about how what happens when you don't
729
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take action? You know, we only have a few more minutes,
730
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but talk a little bit about that, because I find
731
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in my own life if I know something and I'm
732
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supposed to do something and I don't do it, everything
733
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.039
goes amuck. It just freaks.
734
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Yeah, I mean the number one there are a lot
735
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of signs for that, right, But when you're not honoring yourself,
736
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honoring your truth. Things can feel hard, Yeah, I mean,
737
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other than the fact that you're not physically having the
738
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:57.119
experience that you desire, right, things can feel hard. It
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can feel like there are more delays.
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In your life and.
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Which are basically a reflection of your own inner delay
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of not allowing.
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Yourself to choose.
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So yeah, I mean, and when you continue staying in
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that space of resistance, things can feel like they're escalating
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in not a good way.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I was thinking even going deeper in terms of what's
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going on in the world and the planet and have
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that's such a reflection of us needing to be awakened
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and needing for us to do our purpose and needing
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to come from love and meaningful, purposeful action. What are
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your thoughts on what's being reflected to us in such
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a big way right now?
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We're essentially, as a collective, we're in the midst of
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a dark knight of the soul, a collective dark night
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of the soul. Yes, right, Because we've been pushing against
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the natural order of things for so long. That can
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only happen for so long before these foundations start to
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internally combust is basically what's happening. So, yeah, we're going
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through a collective dark night of the soul right now.
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And the question that comes up a lot is, well,
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how can I make a difference in this time? And
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the greatest difference that anyone can make is by starting
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with themselves and looking at am I living embodying in
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my truth? Am I choosing to honor in all of
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my day to day life decisions what I'm being called to?
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That is how each and every one of us makes
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the greater difference.
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Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, and we've got to do it, guys, Yes.
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Keep going forward.
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You know, there's a quote that I share a lot
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because I feel like the essence of it is so
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embodied in what we're talking about here, which is a
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quote by Joan of Arc that says, I am not afraid.
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I was born to do this.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you feel.
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How foundational, how grounded that energy is. It's like I'm
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walking through the fire, I'm having all the experiences, and
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with all of the experiences that I'm having, I am
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unwavering and always anchored in who I am and choosing
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according to that.
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Yeah. Yeah, I take that quote a little bit further,
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which is I chose to be here because I'm strong
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and I'm necessary to be here in terms of bringing
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the love and awakening the love. It was a choice
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because I know I'm ready. So we have like one
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more minute, tell people have reached you and some offerings
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that you've got.
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Yeah, thank you so much. The best place to connect
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with me is my website Jennifer Spore dot com. So
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for those who are listening, it's j E N N
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I F E R S P O R dot com.
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And then I also have, which I think you're going
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to include in the show notes, the link to a
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free quiz, but it's not what you know to be
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a typical quiz. It's called the Scale of Sovereign Frequency
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and it's free and it really serves as a mirror
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for you to get clarity around how you're currently embodying
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that in our authority in your life, and the purpose
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of that is to provide you with that clarity so
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that you feel more grounded and centered in choosing your
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path forward.
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Yeah.
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And that's right on your website too, isn't it.
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It is as well, it's on my website under the
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Living Library.
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Okay, good, Well, this was really awesome thank you so much,
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keep up the good, amazing, important work. And yeah, everybody,
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wake up and let's get this planet where it should be,
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back to love.
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Yes, let's do it. And thank you so much for
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having me.
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Yes, thank you, and I will see everybody next week.
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Have a great weektah