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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.
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And I'm Catherine Hileco.
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Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
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from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
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or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
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So a while back, I believe I mentioned a series
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of a couple of mysteries featuring Jane Austen characters, and
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I'm now back. It's making me sound like I'm a
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real Jane I I'm not necessarily, I have nothing against
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Jane Austen.
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Don't come for me. But I did recently.
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Find how do you, ma'am?
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I found two books at the library that are taking
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inspiration from literary characters. So the first is an older
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one from twenty fourteen. It's called The Texts from Jane
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Eyre and Other Conversations with your Favorite Literary Characters by.
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Mallory Ortberg, and it is It is just a series of.
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Text conversations between either characters or authors and significant people
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in their lives.
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You know you have.
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It goes It reaches all the way back to the
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to the ancient Greeks, to Chaucer, but then it goes
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on to as mentioned Jane Eyre, We've got Poe ed
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Grellan Poe, We've got Henry David Thereau, we have Hemingway,
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and then it gets into Nancy Drew and The Babysitters
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Club and several more more current publications.
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And it's a lot of fun. It's very funny. I
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am not very good at remembering plots and characters and
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things from books, so if I were better at that,
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this would be a whole a whole lot more fun.
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But as it is, it's still fun.
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The one thing is it doesn't it doesn't say who
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each speaker is when they're when they're texting. You just
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have to infer it from from context clues. So that's
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a little that's difficult. And I feel like I would
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have liked my hand to be held and just just
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tell me.
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It's like, don't make me.
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They could have a have a Janaire Lover's version and
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a somewhat clueless.
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Right, Yes, I would. I would need to version.
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I need to have an annotated edition. Yes for people
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who I mean, you should just read Jane Are right now, Yeah,
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and then look at that book.
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But and the Jane Are one was one of the
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easier ste finger out, but some of the other ones.
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I'm like, okay, who was supposed to be talking here?
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And all you had to do was just that little
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you know, Jane.
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Colon blah blah blah, which is what you find in
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every other book that uses.
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It would be it would look like yeah, yes, yes.
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So anyway, it's it's still fun, it's it's still.
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You know, a quick little something.
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To flip through. So I enjoyed it. It's by Daniel
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Lavery and then I found so that's from twenty fourteen.
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But then there's a new one that just came out
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last month called Ladies in Waiting Jane Austen's Unsung Characters,
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and it is short stories by It's an anthology, so
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there's there are nine different authors, nine different stories about
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you know, these the smaller, the lesser discussed characters.
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So it includes.
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One of them that I'm currently reading is by Adriana Trigiani.
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Who's all of these are contemporary.
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Writers, and she has reset pride and prejudice in contemporary
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New York City. In the East village and the Bennett
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family's crumbling home is like a townhouse in the village,
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but they somehow owe all this money on it, even
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though it's been in the family for years. And it's
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the story of the middle daughter, Mary, who.
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In the book is just kind of always just.
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Playing the piano and being ignored by everyone else, so.
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It's her story. And there's Lydia Wickham, which is also
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from Pride and Prejudice. There, sense and sensibility gets revisited.
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So it's
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fun. So far. Some of the authors I'm
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familiar with, some of them, I'm not. One of them
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is the person who wrote Fifty Shades of Gray, so
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I'm gar to that one, at least I think so. Anyway,
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so oh maybe she's not.
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Oh sorry, cut that slander. That was totally false, so
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never mind.
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Anyway. So I'm it's fun.
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I don't usually love short stories because I I want more,
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but since these are just sort of fun, little like
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What the deal was with that character, it's fun to
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just go in and revisit. So yeah, those are my
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two fines. I never would.
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Have seen them if they hadn't come past me at
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the library.
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There you go, just the very the very intention of
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this topic this segment. Yes, absolutely, yes, So now tell
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me what reason lately lately been getting pride and prejudice
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snippets in my face of Kiera Knightley and Matthew McFadden,
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I guess doing the confessing their love for one another
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in the rain Night extream close ups. So I'm there
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for it. I prefer the Colin Firth one, but you know,
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yeah I haven't. I don't know that I have seen
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all of the movies. I am a fan of the book,
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and I must have seen them. Maybe they just ev
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all blent bled together.
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But well, the Colin Firth one is is a mini series.
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It's not even a movie. It's more than a movie.
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Do for a while about him coming out of a lake.
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Well didn't we watch it? Because they watched it on
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Veronica Mars.
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Maybe we did, Okay, yeah, but you've forgotten it. I
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know the general story. So they all got to run
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together with people who are in my head when I
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was really fun. Anyway, for this my random and the
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random recommendation this week, if you will recall the last
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recommendation I gave, which was for Grounds and Hounds flavored
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coffee sampler. I mentioned that I had ordered from another place,
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but that the package had gotten within a half an
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hour of me before taking a side trip to New Hampshire,
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correct and it did eventually make its way back to
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my doorstep, and I have since enjoyed the coffee. In fact,
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I am sipping a cup of it now as we record.
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It is a The name of the company is Mystic
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Monk Coffee and it is produced by a Carmelite monks
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in their monastery in Wyoming, and it's a way to
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support their community and their life of prayer. And also
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the coffee is pretty good nice I ordered or I
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joined the Coffee of the Month club, although I'm getting
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it every other month, and so my first flavored coffee
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I got was called Candy Cane, and it is indeed
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very minty and delicious. So I would say if you
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are looking for yet more coffee to order online and
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want to order from a place that will probably pray
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for you as well, and bless your coffee before it
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leaves the monastery in the mountains of Wyoming, this is
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a very good thing. If you go to their website,
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we'll have a link to it. They have all the
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history of how did they start doing this and what
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exactly is the deal. But they have all the usual
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coffee beans and ground, flavored and unflavored equipment, and uh,
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pretty much like all the other They also have coffee pods.
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I think they call it something. Why is it that
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they call it?
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This is like Desmond when he was threwing was he
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was he making wine? A?
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Yeah, that's right, that's right, very much like that.
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I can't.
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but I cannot find now what. So anyway, more coffee.
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You can never have too much co.
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Oh is it single serve monk shots?
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Monk shots? That's it. They call the monk shots the
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coffee
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ground and I make it in an aero press and
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it's all very messy, but it smells good and tastes
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it's good. So give it a try.
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Yeah, if you're a coffee person, which.
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I'm not, but it might it may you know, usps
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may take a little time getting it to you, but
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it will be worth it.
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Yeah. I may send it on a little journey.
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We'll see the world, you know. I wrote to complain
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about it and got a very nice response. So from
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the monk people.
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I don't think it was the monk's fault, was it?
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It was not the monk's fault. I just said, I
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just want to let you know that this has happened,
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in case you know where it is and can tell me,
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and if not, please pray that if the person wrote
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back that you would pray to Was it Saint.
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Jude and impossible things? Yes? And uh?
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And so I wrote back when when I got.
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It, I feel like it should have been.
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A lost things or it might have been lost things.
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That would be I feel like it should have been
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Saint Christopher because he's for travel.
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Right, That's true. It was traveling, yes, but anyway, so
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it was a good even with the wayward package. It
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was a good experience, and I look forward to getting
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my next one. But I already get Flavor of the
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Month from another place. So I'm doing this every other month.
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I drink a lot, and I'm the only person in
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my house who drink some coffee, and yet I keep
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finding new places to order coffee from and going, oh,
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I'll find a way to drink it all. So you
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may have to peel me off the ceiling at some point.
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If you noticed me talking very quickly. I want to
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do our podcasting only because I had had a seven
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cups of coffee so far before record this at ten
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in the morning. Yes, So what do we have from
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the archives?
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Well, back in twenty seventeen, we had a different format
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to our to our episode, but one of the things
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are sort of lead topic on that episode was taught.
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Our frequent segment of therapy for each other, and we
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were discussing making your kids' issues your own and probably
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vice versa.
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think we touched on something like this. There is a
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really funny Saturday Night Live flip that keeps popping up
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in my reels, a song called I Miss my Ex's dad. Okay,
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it's like as a country song, like you know, somebody's
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gone out of your life, and yeah, it says I
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miss my ex'es dad, and then there's a little chorus
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later on where the dads are singing, I missed my
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daughter's ex. And it's really cute and it is somewhat
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of this. You know. It's like your kid is, you know,
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dating somebody and you come to just really like that person,
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and then oh, no, they need to break up. What
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do you do with that?
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You know?
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Or or they want to say something to somebody and
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do you go say it? Or you know, you get
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involved in their relationships. You can't help but get involved
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in their relationships because it's right there in front of
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you bleeding. But at the same time, it's not for you,
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you know. So yes, I'm if the guy doesn't remember
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his ex's name, but remember just his dad, just the
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dad's name, and the dad is is you know, sabotaging
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the relationships of the daughters so they can get back
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with the guy that they liked. This is this is
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boundaries are being overcome. I've never quite done that, but
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there's been times, you know, it's like, yes, what about
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this friend. Don't you want to still be friends with
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this friend? Why don't we have this friend over?
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We have?
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Yeah, for a lot, I like this other person who's
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obviously bad for me. Let's have that's person over.
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my family that I had had this friend in sort
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of middle school and earth like most of high school,
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I guess, and then we just you know, like you do,
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everyone was whatever happened to Megan.
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I feel like, I don't know, I'm sure she's fine.
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flip the switch off. Yeah, and parents can't do that.
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the adults have a dimmer switch, and it takes a
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long time to get to the off situation, right. I
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think I probably have mentioned this before. One of my
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great regrets about my mom is that for a long
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time I was friends with this family of girls, especially
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the one that was my age, and my mom was
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best friends with their mom. And then at some point,
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this girl I was friends with and I had a
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falling out and just didn't have anything more to do
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with each other, and my mom lost her best friend
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because of it. Yes, the mom felt like she had
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to take her daughter's side and that I had been wrong,
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And my mom is like, what, no, not my child,
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even though honestly I was kind of right, but you know,
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and so because she lost a long time, very close
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friend because they were both too involved in their daughter's Yeah,
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and don't do that, you know, Moms have your own thing. Okay,
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it's not all about them. But you know, if somebody
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you feel is defending somebody who hurt your child, it's
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hard to Yeah, not and your child relationship.
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Your child wants to see you having having.
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Their back, right, So yes, yes, So that's another like
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layer to it that even if you did think your
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kid was in the wrong, like what.
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Do you what do you do about it?
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Yeah? I just looking back on that, I wish I
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had handled it differently. But I was a kid, Yeah,
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what don't I know? And I had my reasons, right,
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I just wish the adults maybe could have could have
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done their adulting and not right, not based their emotional
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states on me, a junior high school student.
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Right.
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So yeah, because I was not I was not ready
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to bear that weight. Yeah, nor did I care at
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all at that time whatsoever. It's only now that I'm
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a mom that I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, that really stunk. Right.
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Oh so yeah, And I mean now that my kids
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are adults, I'm still taking on. You know, We've we
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talked quite a bit about my daughter's jobs, which should
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have just been something a thing she was doing and
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not like all right, now we're looking for a job. Love,
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What can we do? How can I help you? How
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can I let me look? Let me search for a
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bunch of jobs and send them to you as texts
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so that you can pick the ones that you like.
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Why did you pick that one? That one seemed pretty good?
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What you're picking that other one? I don't know about
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that other one. Yeah, So that was totally That was
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totally my job search intent, you know, I was. I was.
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I don't want to send her to like a state
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jobed coordinator because I don't trust them. But Paul, but
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chair at my desk, I.
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Will do that myself. Yes, that's for sure.
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But now would you like me to go to that
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place that didn't hire you and yell at them. I'll
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go to that place and yell at them and maybe
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then they'll watch you.
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But now, if anything goes wrong, who's on the hooks, right?
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It's on me? Me? Yes, I found I found the chickplay. Well,
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the chickplay is going well. But oh my, but yeah,
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that's so hard if not to involve yourself, isn't it?
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I feel that to you know, I think, as I
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might have mentioned here, my daughter recently bought a townhouse.
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It's a condo in a it's a condo, you know,
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So it's there's other people involved. And she let slip
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that the downstairs neighbors don't appreciate their presence. The downstairs
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neighbors got used to having elderly snowbirds living upstairs, and
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now there are twenty somethings living upstairs who like to,
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you know, walk from room to room or sometimes need
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to wheel a suitcase from place to place. And these
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are things that are unacceptable to the downstairs neighbors.
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So when are you driving up there to give them
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a talk?
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Exactly? I don't know what, you know. I just I'm
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like very much that you should do this, you should
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do that. Why did you do it? Talk to this person,
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talk to that. And then I'm like not not.
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This is why you must never tell your parents your problems. Yeah,
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oh that is that is awful and quite unreasonable.
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Yeah, it's it's it's stressing me out a bit, so.
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My gosh.
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So anyways that's going on.
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I mean, I can I can relate to not wanting
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people on top of you, but then don't live in
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a condom exactly.
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Yeah, this is this is communal living.
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Yes, I had a long conversation with a lady in
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the dog park one time about how her neighbors didn't
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like her dog, and yet she was allowed to have
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a dog. And so you know what's your problem, right?
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The dog doesn't do anything that is not just a
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natural dog thing to do. It's not a particularly barkie dog.
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You know, dogs, humans gonna talk, dog's gonna bark, It's
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gonna happen. Yes, they do run across the floor from
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time to time. And it just you was just endlessly
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getting complaints even though it was not. And you know,
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you can say, yeah, well sure it can be annoying
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to hear a dog bark, But then don't live in
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a community building.
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Yeah, get yourself a place, get.
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Yourself a rant somewhere nowhere, and nobody will bother you.
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It comes with the territory. And I worry about my neighbors.
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So yeah, it's no matter where you go, what you do,
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somebody's gonna be doing something. It's gonna get you feeling paranoid.
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Unless you're way out in the boonies.
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And then unless you're Benjamin Linus and can just sit
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in your basement and plan to gas them all great
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or invite them for creepy one on one. Listen to
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our episode of loss this week to know what the
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heck on toping. Imagine like moving into your new condo
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and eas your neighbor.
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Oh, I feel.
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Like the seller should have his baby disclosed something here.
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That's right?
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Yeah, I think so.
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If there's evil masterminds nearby you miss.
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Us, let us know, dear.
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