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Speaker 1: Look here, man, Calvin Johnson doesn't expect his single season NFL record for receiving yards to last.
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Speaker 2: Monkst the longer, dude, and he.
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Speaker 1: Had to and if he had the guests, he said, Pookah, no cool will be the one to break it. Mega Tron said he still got Matthew Stafford, so I think he's got a shot if he stays healthy.
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Speaker 2: That dude's a killer out there.
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Speaker 1: So Mega Tron said, the single season record mark in twenty twelve, breaking Jerry Rice's record of one nine oh sorry, nineteen hundred and sixty four yards in sixteen games.
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Speaker 2: I guess Pooka.
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Speaker 1: Had seventeen fifteen and sixteen games last season. Now, Joseph, yes, do you see do you see Megatron's record falling?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I see it falling.
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Speaker 3: And the only reason why I it's pop because if Pooka stays healthy and Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford is the person that throws the ball to these receivers to break the records.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: If Matthew Stafford is a quarterback, he gave Megatron the single season record in twenty twelve. He's the one that got it. To him, and then after that he gave it to Cooper Cup. He gave Cooper Cup the single season record, and then after that pooking the Cop on pace same like skill set, and I think he knows if you have a player like that that you can continue to get the ball to Devonte Adams on the other side. The offense is doing amazing, he said. Calvin Johnson said, the most perfect thing. It's healthy. If he can stay healthy, and it's a seventeen game season, I think that extra game also with Pooking the Cop just being able to be so dominant in Matthew Stafford being able to just get the ball. He knows matchups. If you leave him in a matchup with the single coverage, he likes his guy and he's going to give him chances to get those opportunities and puts it right on the money nine times out of ten. So I think with you having Matthew Stafford having weapons around him to where you can't just double team Pooking.
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Speaker 2: The cool all the time, you can run the ball.
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Speaker 3: They have Devonte Adams, they have other weapons to where they can disperse it around to where Now, next thing you know, when you do get in that situation. When he ends well on one, you're going to get bombed up and they're going to make it. They're going to take advantage of it. So I think with Matthew Stafford being a quarterback and Pooker being his receiver, being at coming into his own health is the main thing. But with the numbers wise, he did it before, He's done them with Magatron, He's done him with Cooper Cup and now I think with that level of receiver, is Pooking the cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I obviously see it happening.
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Speaker 1: You got more games instead of sixteen games, you got seventeen games. And when you go and you know, you really just think about it, like everything, like you said, it has to line up for this to happen. With Calvin, it was twenty twelve. Like Jerry Rice held onto that record. He's well, he made the record in ninety five and he held on to it until two thousand twelve when it got passed. Where everything lined up. You're talking, what is it almost twenty almost twenty years, seventeen years something like that, that that wreck. He held onto that record, you know what I'm saying, until everything lined up perfectly. He stayed healthy Stafford was doing this thing, so and now you got more games. It's more of a passing league like Jerry Rice, like that man when they was already passing the ball like they do now in San fran when you know he was playing back then, so they were slanging that thing. So when it comes down to it, yeah, I believe it's going to be broken, and it I don't think it has to be putting the.
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Speaker 2: Cord that's going to break it. Again.
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Speaker 1: You're talking something that lasted seventeen years, so I mean it could last twenty twenty five years, whatever it is. But at some point in time, I believe that that record's going to be broken. It'll be seventeen games right now, and then you got to think about it's about to be eighteen games.
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Speaker 2: Bro. They about to knock off another.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, as soon as that thirty if they do this deal before that twenty thirty CBA is up, it's going to be eighteen games. Even after that, it's going to be eighteen games. Bright The seventeen games gonna be eighteen games. They gonna knock off two, They're gonna knock off one of the preseason games.
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Speaker 2: The only gonna be two preseason games.
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Speaker 1: That's how they go to you know, work it through obviously, and the NFLPA is going fall for the bullshit because that's what they do. Their leadership is trash. They have nobody that got any type of backbone. Everybody looking out for theirself. They ain't looking out for these players, point bank Pleer like, So when it comes down to it, you think it's anybody.
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Speaker 2: Else that could break it beside Yeah, I think JSN. I think Jamar Chase. Okay, so yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Think it takes two. You gotta have a quarterback, and you gotta have a dog receiver.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta stay healthy. It takes everything. You gotta line on up.
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Speaker 3: So I'm thinking with JSN, he's a dog and they do his six seventeen eighteen hundred yards last year. You just seeing people out there that can do it. And with Jamar Chase is one of my guys. And I think if Justin Jefferson was able to really get he's going for a quarter assistant quarterback. I think if you just get Patrick Mahomes one of these dudes, you get.
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Speaker 2: With another a like Tabrie Kill was there.
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Speaker 3: I think there was chances that he could have had that, but I think just staying
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healthy, having a bomb receiver and you got in an A one bomb, a one quarterback and an A one receiver.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have it to turn off.
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Speaker 1: Let me see, No, we're good. You gotta have a connection. You gotta you gotta have. Everything has to line up. And that's the same thing like super Bowls. Like guys that get to a super Bowl young and early, like yeah we go be back, Like no, not necessarily, dude.
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Speaker 2: You don't realize how how much things gotta line up.
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Speaker 3: And then at the same time, it's like, what is you gotta be if you really eating at two bands, It's like, I hope we got to make sure that there's one ball.
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Speaker 2: How many yards did your quarterback throwing for?
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Speaker 3: That gotta be like five thousand, five thousand yard throwing quarterback unless you get in the passes, because four thousand yards is a good season. That means you have half of all of the receiving yards for your squad.
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Speaker 2: If you get one that's thrown for five, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: You get one five, you straight you gotta be averaging your team gotta be averaging around three hundred and fifty yards passing. So you you you need your like where you're going at two bands.
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Speaker 2: You need your you need your bunk. Twenty seventeen games. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Some games you gotta come out there and go crazy and hit them with with hit them with two hundred twenty five.
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Speaker 2: But you did it. You just said one. You did on one fifteen. That's not crazy one fifteen in the game.
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Speaker 3: So you go for two hundred because like Josh Gordon was on pace my man with for two hundred back to back games.
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Speaker 2: You gotta do something where you just spast You got a month where you gotta spat a couple of games. You gotta go for a man to a two fifty piece and then a two hundred. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: You take it from the one like a ninety nine yard bomb, and they for that rest of the game, you still spatting on them. You still give me another buck fifty after the.
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Speaker 1: After I had one of them Randy Moss games, three catches, one hundred and seventy five yards.
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Speaker 2: State three sixty seven for sure, and that's in the first half. Do you need to play the second half.
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Speaker 1: So right now, of all the NFL records that we have, which one you think is the most untouchable record in the NFL right now? You don't think it will ever be broken? Interceptions? Who got the who got the who got the record?
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Speaker 2: For man?
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Speaker 3: That joint is at like eighty six or something like that, and there's there's no way.
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Speaker 2: What what what?
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Speaker 4: Uh?
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Speaker 2: What record? You think? Who got that?
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Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm about to get it right now. You got to tell me who got that eighty something? That had to be when they wouldn't they ain't know how to throw the ball or something. Man unless he played a long time.
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Speaker 4: Oh god, well for you, Jerry Rice receiving sing yards, they ain't.
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Speaker 2: Gonna touch that, bro. Ain't nobody gonna touch that?
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Speaker 1: Who's talking about almost twenty three thousand You're talking about almost twenty three thousand yards receiving and the thing you not gonna touch anything Jerry Rices did as far as longevity, Like, you're not gonna touch it, dude, Like when you when you let me see hold on one hundred and ninety seven receiving touchdowns, Bro, you're not touching that. He got one thousand, five hundred and forty nine receiving yards career reception. Sorry, you're not touching that. That's twenty years. That man played twenty years. Bro, you know what, So brouh, I'll tell you, right, I'm gona tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'll tell you somebody. Bet me, okay, all right, that it was a player that was going to break Jerry Rice's record. Bet me a hundred k oh my, I said, you are out of your rabbit assid mind.
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Speaker 5: Bet good, bet good a certain player. Yes, okay, bet good, I said, it is not happening.
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Speaker 2: So who's number two in career receiving yards? How much is he in? How much is he in first place career receiving yards? Dude?
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Speaker 1: The next closest one, I want to say is down there five.
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Speaker 2: Or seven thousand aways. It might be Fitzgerald. I think that's the that's the thing, Debo. Fitzgerald is the closest one, about five thousand thousand.
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Speaker 3: Terrell Owens then is after that fifteen well, basically sixteen.
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Speaker 2: Thousand, so he's still five thousand away. What do you play? He played seventeen twenty years, right.
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Speaker 3: What do fitz fitz Jerill play from Ford is to twenty twenty, so he played sixteen.
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Speaker 1: Okay, sixteen years, twenty years. You think who touched in twenty years? Bro, You're correct? I mean Jerry Rice is. The thing is people can start off and.
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Speaker 2: Hand it to eight.
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Speaker 3: He can have seven, six years, five years, six year spans, four year spans obviously, but when you get to six year, seven year spans.
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Speaker 2: Of you'd have to have ten two thousand yards to have and you still you got to have two of those ten, ten of them.
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Speaker 1: Ten two thousand yard seasons and you still ain't bet.
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Speaker 2: It's the longevity at receiver.
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Speaker 3: So like dudes at the same they can come out like my man, like Justin Jefferson on what was on, he's probably one of the people I feel like if any way, if he could stay and play for Justin Jefferson probably going to what year nine, if you could do this for another eleven years, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: He's that's that's the type of you have to what number is
he at right now? Jefferson Jefferson, right now, I'm guarantee you ain't on pace. It's too hard.
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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson eight eight eight thousand, oh look eight thousand, four hundred and he's only been in he's going to he's played six years. Okay, you know what I'm saying, because the active so you got Justin Jefferson twelve eighteen.
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Speaker 1: Even if he played, if he played eighteen years and stayed on that pace, which is horrible, it's going to be impossible.
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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. That's what it takes. You got what it take.
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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson is doing it with out a quarterback. Justin Jefferson is one of the people that have been able to put up the numbers since he came into the league consistently.
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Speaker 2: Like when you say these seven years fans, but you got to That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: If you continue, how close has he ever been to even a angle season breaking the record?
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Speaker 2: Like you got you gotta get up there, bro.
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Speaker 3: I think I think Justin Jefferson is one of the only right now, I mean one of the only players in the league. Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the two dudes that are on the trajectory I feel like. But they But when we're saying this people, it's saying, if.
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Speaker 2: You do twenty, if you do twenty years.
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Speaker 1: You would have to average at least twelve or thirteen hundred yards a.
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Speaker 3: Year to do beat to beat Jerry. All right, Hold, all right, I understand. I'm just trying to give you a look. The only people I'm saying is even comparable close that have a chance right now is Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.
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Speaker 1: But like, ain't nobody be there? Only who playing twenty years? We got it right now, especially now, I hear what you're saying. They trying to get rid of you at thirty.
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Speaker 2: Now, I hear what you're saying. But that was just it, yep, Like it's just that it's one hundred and ninety seven receipts.
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Speaker 3: Because the thing with Jerry Rice is that you keep on saying and then that I say with Lebron, it's the level, it's not. It's not you. Everybody can be great for a season. Not not everybody, but a lot of players. You can be great for a seas. You can be good, but then instance injuries happen, it's one hundred percent chance of injury. So when you have players like Jerry Rice, when you have players like Lebron James that put these numbers out there so far because greatness is going to be it's.
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Speaker 2: Cool, it's good.
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Speaker 3: Everybody making it to the league is amazing players. You can be great to make three Pro Bowls, you can be amazing Hall of Fame you start making seven of them. But when you start making fifteen Pro Bowls, fifteen All Pros, that that level of greatness is your modeling for that long and then twenty years of doing the same exact thing of oh no, he's the best player in the league for twenty years, Like that's what makes these dudes all time grees. So what I'm saying, justin Jefferson, he's at the beginning of seven years in league, seven years Pro Bowl in a row, averaging around twelve hundred yards in a row. So if you can keep this for sixteen, fourteen to thirteen more years, then you're in the conversation of Jerry Rice. If you were to retire after two more years, people are going to remember your name like you got your You're on pace for being able to do.
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Speaker 2: It for like four more years Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 3: But we're talking about being the best to ever do it and setting these numbers where Jerry Rice was doing it for twenty years, a thousands of nothing.
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Speaker 2: He's going fifteen hundred for ten years in a row. Then you got another like just consistency.
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Speaker 3: He's forty, still out there with the raiders going up top on people. So like when you're starting to look like, oh nah, maybe he's going in year sixteen, is he going to do it another twelve hundred? Yeah, seventeen he's he's still going to do it another twelve hundred. So like you don't know, because it's like neither one of us do because you never see it until you see that person that can do it, because you see it at the beginning from a lot of people like, oh man, Calvin Johnson, it's going to projective to break Jerry Rice's record and retires after nine seasons, and everybody's like this, oh man, you have so much more. But it's like the wearington your body. You gotta want to be able to play that long. Like everything has to work out right, you know what I'm saying. So we're saying the same thing, but we got to see can that happen? Can you still be healthy? Can you still ball that long and stay healthy?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Now, the other record that I don't think we're going anywhere, but somebody currently has a chance to get to it. If he don't get it, I don't think nobody else gets it. And that's Emmitt Smith's rushing careers. Dereck Henry right now at thirteen thousand eight. Okay, you may finished at eighteen three fifty five. Now Derek can go on a couple run man, Oh yes he can get that for we're just trying to figureut we again still is I'm just saying, if he did it, you know, against everybody else the other sixteen games, you know, other fifteen games, whatever it is, then he he definitely got a shot. Man, they get to Emmi Smith's eighteen thousand, three fifty five because he's only he's only five fifty three hundred away, that's what. So whatever time he got left, you just need to get fifty three hundred. You know, he'd be hitting him for about sixteen seventeen. You get a couple of them back.
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Speaker 3: Backs, that man, Dereck Henry plays four more years and averages twelve hundred yards.
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Speaker 2: He's right at it. Right.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's not a crazy thing to say, but like you said, too interesting.
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Speaker 2: But here's the crazy thing though, If Barry Sanders didn't walk over manmm Smith.
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Speaker 3: He's talking about Barry and were talking about Calvin and they looking at both of these records. If Calvin played for twenty if Klvin played for the twenty three years, I mean, now we're looking at something crazy. If Barry Sanders played for the same amount of time as Emmitt, you're looking at something. You're looking at way different numbers. So like that's where when the record books get happened. That's where that greatness is because they've been doing it for so long, like nine years.
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Speaker 2: It is different than sixteen. It's different than fifteen.
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Speaker 3: When you level that model of consistency and greatness for so long.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's why I give Bron so much love. Okay, you can have a love, but I still listen. It's cool.
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Speaker 1: I still you want me to give me longevity. I'll give it to you. The best he got two he never took no show. I appreciate it. You being you, being you have no arguments about Lebron James. I was just saying, I just said, that's hometown. And I ain't even tripping Akron, Ohio west side someingcounty. You know ak Roddy Roddy all that that's gravy, baby.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We got free agent wide receiver Stefan Diggs.
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Speaker 1: He opens up about the possibility of going home and playing for the Commanders. He said, it's a lot of hopes. We're kind of figuring it out and working through some things. I did a small piece of I did have a small piece of me, Like, damn, it would be great to come home and play in front of the fans. Yo, what'd you think that would look like? If him in the old Daniel's hooked up?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I think it'd be good.
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Speaker 3: But Daniels needs as many weapons as we can as he could possibly have. And I think Stefan Digg still got some game mental for show. He's from the Crib, from the area, you know what I'm saying. So I think it'd be good for him. I think he's still got a lot of like I said, a lot of ball, So I think it'd be dope.
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Speaker 2: What you think? You know? I don't know, man, I just don't know if Jayalen can stay healthy.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: He just needs he need to get some weight on him.
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Speaker 1: And he got the same problem Withinby got except Womby actually can stay healthy.
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Speaker 2: He just is a little different.
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Speaker 1: Like they get the bang and hit you like we got to put on some weight, put on some muscle, like like they they ain't what is it?
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Speaker 2: How much he wait will like one seventy one sixty something like that. Like Jay Dames, he did look at his skinny when he came back brou what are you talking about? Man turned sideways. You can't even see it. It looked like he did look a little look a little like he would he he's he's he's super like dude.
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Speaker 1: Like every time you see him get hit, I'm like, I don't know if he's getting up like.
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Speaker 2: Like he needs to, Like I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely they're saying, they saying, they saying six four, two ten.
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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but they don't. You know, how them waste go. It's what we got at the combine is what you're gonna get. And then from there they will never change it. They get to ask you. There's never no skills, no time you're in the league, having to like literally report to the thing.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: After that, it's one is my bad debo or pro Pro Day, whatever you had to go to, they gonna get your measurements legitimately one time, and then after that it's.
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Speaker 2: Just it goes, it goes. I mean, it stayed like it said I was one ninety four.
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Speaker 3: I was one ninety four at the combine, and that's why everybody went from the whole rest of the time I was in the league, I was walking around one eighty two because I was getting a little older, trying to get lighter, and it's still said one ninety five. So that is not updating until we're not jumping on the scale. You're gonna get one time and you go, yeah, hu much is the way like you don't He's not walking around at that Google rate, at that Google weight right now.
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Speaker 1: No, no, Joe, they had me at well my weight.
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Speaker 2: I didn't get a pro day and none of that store. I had you my actual weight.
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Speaker 1: I came in at my pro at my pro when I when it still waited me, and they had me they had me at two forty two, and that was actually heavier than I had been shitting until my first couple of years of college, when I was horribly, horribly out of shape.
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Speaker 2: But it was two forty two.
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Speaker 1: From that point on, by next year, I never played lower than two fifty two fifty five to seventy five to eighties.
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Speaker 2: And did it stay at two forty two on the thing stayed.
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Speaker 3: So that's why I'm always looking around making sure thank you. I know it was always so I'm like it always for me. I always said one ninety four and they were like this, He said you were one of it. I'm like, I'm one hundred and eighty pounds, okay, like you Looksten.
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Speaker 1: Bro trying to prepare it for two forty, Bro, I got two eighty six coming at the ass.
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Speaker 2: You got two seven whole number surprise, thirty form Bro.
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Speaker 1: I came into camp on purpose at two seventy at least every year, and then I worked up to make sure I had I could be strong as possible. And then from there once we got into the season, as we started to work towards the season, I dropped down and I get into like.
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Speaker 2: The two like two fifty five to sixty something like that, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: And the longer the season got
though, you know what I'm saying, Like for me, I had to I had to do what I had to do to try and keep from getting it. You tried to do what you tried to do to try and gain it and hold on to it.
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Speaker 2: So like the Super Dude the.
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Speaker 1: Run back in Tampa, Bro, I was I was, I was two, I was two eighty I was two eighty two or two eighty six, and Woodley was like three o five.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what was? Number was?
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Speaker 3: One was like three on five. I'm saying, what his like paper? What his if you were to.
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Speaker 1: Google with oh, like maybe too like maybe two, say you need to sixty something like that.
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking getting that myth out of there right. You know what Troy? You know what was? You know what Troy was? TV man TV was sitting there about two twenty five? What did they say, Bro.
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Speaker 1: I don't seen I've seen TV playing as heavy as two forty.
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Speaker 2: That's what it doesn't once you get one in there.
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Speaker 1: All that coming downhill, he coming downhill?
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Speaker 2: At what they think I'm at? No, No, he s no, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
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Speaker 3: So the teams, the schedule, the weights, and you make they know like when they make sure like when you do did you have to did you have to set like a set weight with the trainer, so you just knew. Like when we had to do weig ends, I didn't have.
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Speaker 2: We didn't.
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Speaker 1: We didn't have so they on how you we didn't have way in like we weighed in.
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Speaker 2: But we didn't. I didn't have like I didn't have a weight.
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Speaker 1: Problem, so I didn't made to maintain me for me too, like even when like like when you see was there, it was like, yo, are you playing well? Like how are you moving? All the other stuff? Like dude, I ain't gonna lie man. Like it's sometimes where you some casts, many they scale weight man bruh. Depending on how they work their program. They either come in out of shape and work it down. You can't do that no more now because you don't get enough. You don't get enough reps. But man, you had cats come in and work down twenty yeah, thirty and and uh in training camp. You know that's when you had the real two days. You pad it up both times. You know you're doing all yeah, then go ahead and work it down. You know they grinding. Yeah, you can work it down like.
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Speaker 3: Already be where you need to be because I know you was probably all the same.
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Speaker 2: That's if you don't have a weight problem.
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Speaker 3: They kind of more how you feeling, you know what I'm saying, what do you want to what do you want to play at?
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Speaker 2: Jody?
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Speaker 3: And that was like yeah, right now, I'm like one eighty five is good. So when you do your weights, I'm like, yeah, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Right around what I needed to be.
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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good, okay solid. I know that's probably how you had your situation. But then the other play No, you need to be down to this number or you're going to be fine, you know what I'm saying per pound.
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Speaker 2: So there's a situation where now you're playing good certainly, Like no, I like this, No, I don't care. You need to get down a little bit, hey Joe.
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Speaker 1: So when I went to New England, they actually did the weight things. Yeah, and you know they were like, you know what, you know weight you play it. I see they got you lately. You know, listened to two for the too. Like He's like, yeah, we know that. Ain't like yeah, like cool, I said, whatever I am right now, it is going to be the weight that you know, Yeah, a play at. So I stepped on the scale. It was like I don't know, uh, like to sixty or something or whatever. It was they was like, all right, cool, yeah, so we'll give you I think they was like, we'll give you five pounds up whatever.
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Speaker 2: Da. So I mean I never really did over that because, as you said, get you get old, you gotta go start going down, down, move around. Yeah yeah, is it?
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Speaker 1: Uh, he's going to play for what he wants to play for his home team, Like would you prefer to play for your home team or would you.
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Speaker 3: I think it matters at the time of my career. I think when I first, you know, because when you first get drafted, I think I would need it to go away kind of it's a lot going on. It's a whole lot of just a process.
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Speaker 2: So I think.
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Speaker 3: Originally first to go just get away, to be able to kind of get your own self established, get your own foot down, learn the city.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
00:25:24
Speaker 3: I think the old experience of being able to get drafted, go to a new city, being able to grow up, being able to kind of become your own person is a whole situation. So I think that's good. I think once you're starting to get older, you get family, you get kids, you get matured. Once you're in towards the later end of your career and ready to finish it off. I think it's a perfect time to be able to come home because it's a change.
00:25:47
Speaker 2: You're a grown man, You're ready to do a little bit more, and.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: Just being able to hold down like everything the situations around being home. I think that's kind of what the thing was so for me, I think towards the end of my career, out of love to come back to the crib and baby around with the family. But when I first get drafted, have my own spot out there. Family comes visits as much as they want, come to all the games. But I think it just being able to kind of establish your own identity, being able to and at the same time it's work. You're not going to go play and go like. It's not like you're just hanging out. I'm really trying to go there and really establish myself, really get my work on, really get my grind becmes.
00:26:23
Speaker 2:
When you first get there, it's a thousand things.
00:26:26
Speaker 3: You got to get your place, you got to get your stuff going on, and just get your feet right.
00:26:29
Speaker 2: But it's all in becoming an adult.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: So I think that's all in just the growing and being able to just start doing that on your own and being able to become an adult and then once you're established and ready to go and being able to have your career going over to go home, being able to do that is a whole lot easier, and you're able to control what you can control. You can control the main thing. I think knowing the main thing is you are professional. After your job is to now perform. You have to all that college everything is is now it's a business. Now you are trying to make this team every single year. And the quicker that you understand that it's a job and not a fun game.
00:27:05
Speaker 2: It's not a party for everybody. The sooner that you.
00:27:08
Speaker 3: Be able to be good and get that, that just that that schedule and just that consistency of you know what I'm saying, not just being so spontaneous, not just being so, oh yeah, I can do this, I can do that. Football season is a very like it's not that long, but it's time for us to get the job done. All of this work that we doing towards the off season, it's really like there's an off season and there's an end season, and the end season is very structured. There's things that we do because that's going to get my body right. You start to just know how you perform the best. So I think when you having that, it's just you need that time.
00:27:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I guess what I prefer to play. I don't think I would prefer to play well, I could play, and I could. I could, I could for sure.
00:27:55
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
00:27:56
Speaker 1: I think to be able to play in your I could. Yeah, I could definitely play my own city. But to be able to be able to do that, you have to be a person that can separate and be very forceful in what it is that you're gonna do. You got to be able to say no. You got to be able to say I got to do this, I got to do that. And everything has to be prioritized around what you need to do, Like you said, to make sure you can go out here and perform at the highest level.
00:28:25
Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean just the end season.
00:28:27
Speaker 1: That means out of season too, Like you have to be able to go train, you have to be able to do all this other stuff. So you can't be sitting there doing all the hometown stuff where you know you're going here, you're going.
00:28:38
Speaker 2: There, You're hanging out with the sellers, doing all that. No, all that could wait.
00:28:42
Speaker 1: I got a short period of time to make a whole lot of money, and I'm trying to do it as long as I can. So the benefits of having a social life and everything else that go along with being able to do that because you got more money. No, that's gonna have to
wait. I can make all this money and then we can go chill later and figure that out now. But I'm not going to go and take away from training that I could be doing here, improvements that I could be doing here because we want to have a barbecue or a grill out.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: No, I got it.
00:29:10
Speaker 3: Got time debo when you're actually like when you putting it in this time when when you're getting drafted and you're first, like say you're getting drafted to your hometown.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: You going home to all the grandparents.
00:29:21
Speaker 3: All the family and you and you don't know how to say no, and you want to make sure everybody's good and you just that whole time is a is a difficult time when people first get to the league. So I think being able to kind of get away a little bit, establish your own self, knowing you do have to be a little selfish because it's not all about to be very selfish, because it's not a little about it's not all about it's not all about the stuff that the game brings you. Because now we're here, now we can like you everybody else like when they would come to like when people come to the games, it is a party when they come together. I can't talk before the game because now this is my this.
00:29:59
Speaker 2: Is what all this stuff it's for. You know what I'm saying.
00:30:01
Speaker 3: I worked my tail off to get it to this point. So it's game day. It's very not not stressful, but it's really it's not funny. It's nothing to be talking to what we're joking about, Like I'm locked in until after the game, when the game is over, all the jokes, all the key can I have to stuff. I have to make sure the last little tep business on it's third and two. I'm making sure I know that, Okay, this slant is coming if we lined up like this, like we're doing the last previous checks.
00:30:26
Speaker 2: Because all that.
00:30:28
Speaker 3: OTAs, all that mini camp, all that training camp, all these practices, all these meetings that we're sitting in there going over it, it's for the show.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: All this other.
00:30:38
Speaker 3: Stuff doesn't mean nothing unless I don't perform it on this Sunday at the show. So like the quicker that we realize, like it's fun, we're in the NFL, but like, oh my goodness, it's real out here.
00:30:49
Speaker 2: Take it very seriously. It's not a game.
00:30:51
Speaker 3: You will get cut. You know what I'm saying, Like, this is why all this is happening. The more you can make that about like and how long can you play? It's not forever. So then when you're playing football as a kid, oh no it's all good.
00:31:04
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not all good. We got to be locked in because we will get cut. No rushing.
00:31:10
Speaker 1: The average NFL career three and a half years, right, Joe, Come on, man, we're talking about we're talking about this ship in the game. This ship is not forever and it's not long like you, and that average is with guys like you doing what twelve, got guys like you doing twelve. You got cats like you, got other cats like Jerry doing Twinkie.
00:31:34
Speaker 2: You know what. I like that?
00:31:35
Speaker 1: Those are hours to the guy that didn't even make a year three didn't even make a year or two he went practice squad and then't and it came back the next year, got released, and you can't. You only go practice squad for a year, year and four games. I think it is after that, that's it. You got to make regular roster. Got to stop performance, start performing, Joe, start performing. Hit the Super Chancer Company Live ten dollars, she said. Joe, as a dB, what worries you the most in Week one? A mobile quarterback or a team that don't have a lot of fresh film.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: On Opening Day?
00:32:13
Speaker 1: Stealers versus Falcons, Browns versus Jaguars, who's winning their first game?
00:32:20
Speaker 3: So a team with a mobile quarterback or a team that if the team got the mobile mobile quarterback, I'm not worried about them as much as a dB. If they can, if they if they can throw and run, it as just as good, you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's that's just tough for overall defense in general. But if I don't have a lot of Thelm on the team, I kind of like that's that's sometimes that's not bad.
00:32:43
Speaker 2: I just want to go, we're gonna play.
00:32:44
Speaker 3: Bas We're gonna not just try to jump stuff and try to anticipate what's going on. You're gonna play good on good. You're gonna have to come out here and beat me. Like we can get comfortable, we get into the flow of the game to now, okay, you kind of get okay, this is what they're doing.
00:32:56
Speaker 2: You kind of get a little feel.
00:32:58
Speaker 3: But the mobile quarterback is kind of more tough than if you don't have no film. If I don't have no film, I'm going fresh on you and then open the day. Stealers. Obviously stealers, Browns ros Jacks. Okay, yeah, obviously browns. H you said, I said, said Browns. I said Browns.
00:33:16
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying y' y'all, y'all play the Jacks. You know what I mean? Jacksonville? You know who over there? Oh got a quarterback? Libo, come on, man, we got we got the super chests.
00:33:33
Speaker 3: You just I answered the questions your I'm sorry.
00:33:37
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: Coming life back and about it life, she said, Deebo, if you're in the locker room before the Falcons game, what message are you giving the defense about punching Atlanta in the moth early full throttle debo?
00:33:53
Speaker 2: Because I need them to win. I'm being bullied by a game one Deebo game What game one? I mean, that's the defense. What you're gonna tell them? What you're gonna tell them?
00:34:07
Speaker 1: You just go out there and you play still the ball, You re establish what it is.
00:34:11
Speaker 2: What's up? What they're like? Debo, go break us down deepall.
00:34:16
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, like I said, I say,
Okay, I don't don't.
00:34:21
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't go in today that you just can't. You can't go and see me already. I'm locked. I'm I'm locked in. That's it. A line and assignment technique. Don't get pushed, don't get sign.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: Get your ass pushing line back job and help your partner later.
00:34:39
Speaker 2: It's simple, bro.
00:34:41
Speaker 1: Go out here and show them exactly what Pittsburgh still a defense football look like.
00:34:49
Speaker 2: Make sure they feel every.
00:34:51
Speaker 1: Motherfucking did okay when lose a draw, man, I just need y'all to know that you're coming up out of this motherfucker lumped up.
00:34:59
Speaker 2: You're gonna taste up, Listenna, take a few.
00:35:02
Speaker 1: Ain't you ain't listen, You ain't coming over here with none of that bullshit like you ain't m hm okay, foxy Mama four two four three, two one five dollars.
00:35:19
Speaker 2: She said, Deebo, what happened to you? And fighting?
00:35:23
Speaker 1: Still waiting on the workout for the females. With the work out for the females, it ain't gonna be on. It ain't gonna come for a minute.
00:35:28
Speaker 2: Now. We've got to get that whole thing set up. Let the whole thing set up. You go, You're gonna do it right. You're gonna do it right now. That's why you're gonna do it right. You got to do it right right. You just can't stow it together. You just slang it out there like that. You know what I'm saying.
00:35:39
Speaker 1: You gotta do it right, you know. But the fight with Ocho, I don't know. I don't know what happened.
00:35:46
Speaker 2: You know what. I just my mama told me I couldn't beat him up.
00:35:50
Speaker 1: Mama told me, she said, don't do nothing to that, to that little to that little man.
00:35:53
Speaker 2: She said, you gonna hurt him. And you know, I just I don't know.
00:35:58
Speaker 1: Man. He only a couple of pounds old than Jadon Dannys. You know what I'm saying, I don't want to do nothing hurt man.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You just families, You just just be chose not to result the virus on.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean. Man, got kids and all that. Man, you know, but I'm just I'm just I'm trying.
00:36:16
Speaker 2: I'm trying.
00:36:17
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take the other road. What I'm saying, I appreciate it. But if but if you keep asking for it, if you if you don't really want, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it, don't force me, he'd be because you like, if you forced me to do it, then I I'm a forgiven man.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: I'm a merciful man. The merciful man. You know what I'm saying. They come, they come with bump of Johnson. They sad.
00:36:42
Speaker 1: You a merciful man. You know what I'm saying. You know, help Santy. We have five dollars, said Joe. Joe cool Joe. Yeah, fits you back one on the wall behind me.
00:36:58
Speaker 2: That's where that's a Pro Bowl jersey when I was with the that's a Browns Pro Bowl jersey. That's a Pro Bowl jersey. That jersey is fire. This jersey's fire too. What What's what's what's what's on the probo. It's on the sleeve.
00:37:16
Speaker 3: Man, it's a little brown on this it's a little it's a brown, but it's a Pro Bowl jersey. The main whole jersey is a Pro Bowl jersey. And then the team that I played on is just represented on this.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: Hey listen, man, Hey, listen, my guy right here, Terrel Tisdale said why in the chat right here, he said, why.
00:37:37
Speaker 2: Don't y'all like the video?
00:37:39
Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty five watching and not even a hundred likes?
00:37:43
Speaker 2: Y'all are shame? Dan, Hey, you watch it, but you ain't liking? Is they not liking what it's like? To help your boy out? Toreil that I appreciate you, baby, one hundred RelA rail one the bo.
00:38:00
Speaker 1: Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, listen, he said, Debo and Joe entertaining this ship.
00:38:08
Speaker 2: At least y'all could do it. Hit the like, butudon, Mike, Mike Man, get the like. Gary Man, I'm out here fighting with me and Deebo. Help your boys out. We out here, Lord.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: Joe Man, listen, brother, we want to thank you guys man for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribing, download where you get your show.
00:38:38
Speaker 3: Joe Yo, We will see you on Friday, same time, same place.
00:38:42
Speaker 2: We appreciate you and were out. Yeah, we out.