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What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and
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this week we have a very special guest.
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Because I'll be sitting down with comedian, writer, actor, Tom Ardell.
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Now, I'm assuming most of you out there are more
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or less familiar with Tom, and if so, you know that,
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if nothing else, he has had one of the more
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interesting stories of anyone who's ever made their way into
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the entertainment industry. His journey from a humble Midwest childhood
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to become one of the most notorious people in Hollywood
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is that of legend. And a lot of people probably
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think they know how things came together for Tom, but
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I wanted to hear it right from the source. So
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that's just what we're going to do, is we sit
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down with him and hear How it all began, just
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where it's led him over the years, and some of
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his more interesting film roles that happen along the way.
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So let's do that right now as we talk with
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Tom Arnold. I usually kind of start at the beginning
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and try to figure out how people got to where
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they are and this path that they've ended up on.
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Was it Iowa you started in? Mm-hmm.
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Again, at that point, I also try to figure out
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interests early on. Were you already a fan of movies,
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or were you drawn to comedy?
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Well, I grew up in Ottumwa, Iowa. I was born
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in Ottumwa, Iowa. We had a single father, so when
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he was... 20 years old. He had a four-year-old son, me.
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My sister was three. My brother was one. And he worked,
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and then he came home. And really, the only time
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I remember my brother and I upstairs, we could hear
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my dad really laughing hard downstairs. And it was always
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when there was a Bob Hope special on. Back in
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the 60s and 70s, Bob Hope had these big specials,
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and it was a big deal back then. and and
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I remember thinking whatever it is this Bob Hope does
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that's what I want to do because it makes my
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dad laugh and and so you know it was also
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in the back of my mind you know I grew
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up we uh our community is a very working class
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community uh a lot of people work at the meat
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packing plant which is where I ended up working too
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for three years um it's a bit it's a bit
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of a rough place and So especially if you grow
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up in a family without a mother, you know, you
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sort of stand out. So the gauntlet getting to school
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past the Reber boys and the other kids in the
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neighborhood could be a rough one. And so I figured
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out fairly early on a way to navigate that was
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with humor. And if I could make those guys laugh,
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then maybe it'd get a little bit easier to get
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on my way. So, you know, I started... I don't
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know if I... I guess I'd be a class clown,
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which sacrificed my studies, but, you know, it seemed to
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be something that I was, you know, paying attention to
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and paying attention to people on TV and people like
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Jackie Gleason and, you know, eventually people like George Carlin
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and Richard Pryor and, you know, eventually growing up, people
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like Robin Williams. And so... But also... You know, when
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you live in a small town, movies are really important
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to you. You have one theater and, you know, it's
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a world you can't even imagine. You know, just the
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idea of Hollywood. You know, how do you get there
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from a Tumwa? It's just impossible. And, you know, you
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have these dreams and, you know, as I grew up,
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I had these dreams and I just couldn't figure out
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how you could get from a Tumwa to Hollywood. And
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You know, if you work in a meatpacking plant, which
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I did out of high school, you know, especially on
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the kill floor of a meatpacking plant, there's one thing
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for sure. You will get very drunk every night. And
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then you will have these crazy dreams like you're best
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friends with Arnold Schwarzenegger or you're friends with Robin Williams.
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And then you wake up at 4.45 a.m. and it's
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time to go chisel heads or whatever kind of shit
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job you got. And you're like, oh, my God, I
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live in a tub of Iowa. I work at Hormel.
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I will never meet Arnold Schwarzenegger. This is so depressing.
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I have to quit dreaming. And then, you know, cut
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two years later, I have friends with Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
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did a movie with Robin Williams. I knew him well.
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But what really was a turning point for me was
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I said, I'm going to quit having these dreams. I've
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got to be realistic. I just have to settle. Nobody
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in my town does this. We stay here. That's what
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we do. And one night I was out at the bar,
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and I looked over, and I saw Andy Kaufman in Atomo, Iowa.
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And he had been studying it. Maharishi International University Transcendental Meditation,
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which is 20 miles away in Fairfield, Iowa. And he'd
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come down to Ottumwa to our Coliseum. They had a
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women's wrestling event. And he had come there and then
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paid the women to stay afterwards to wrestle with him.
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And they'd taken the whole crowd to Happy Joe's Pizza
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and bought the pizza. And I thought, that's what I want.
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You know, I want to be so successful. famous and
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successful i could take everybody to happy joe's pizza by
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the way happy joe's pizza is the best pizza in
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the world you get their taco pizza it's awesome and
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so i met him and i talked to him for
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a little bit and and then i also i got
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to see you know how uncomfortable he got when a
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bunch of people started recognizing him and but i also
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it struck me oh my gosh if he could get
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to a tub of Iowa from Hollywood, there must be
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a way to get the other way for me to
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get there. So that stuck in my head, and when
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I'd saved enough money to go to college, I ended
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up going to the University of Iowa, and they had
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open mic night at the student union, and you could
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get up and tell jokes or play guitar or whatever.
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All my friends made it. I booked it. It had
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50 friends, and we drank Everclear Punch, which is powdered
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Gatorade and Everclear. It's just a filthy drug. And I
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told jokes. They were old jokes or Richard Pryor jokes.
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My friends just laughed and laughed. And then real comedians
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came out after that. They booked. And all my friends
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left with me. We went out partying. And I said
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I'd do it again the next month. The real comedians
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who come from Minneapolis said, the guy that booked said, hey, listen,
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if you get your friends to stay for the real
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comedians this time, we'll give you a job in Minneapolis
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at a real comedy club. And by the way, you
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have to do original material. Yeah. You can't do... Because
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I was going to do their jokes, too, you know?
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They probably wouldn't like that.
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No, they didn't. But I didn't know. I didn't know
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how it was done. So I got a job at
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Minneapolis as a comedian. That is a dream come true.
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So I put all my stuff in a trash bag,
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got $ 100, and I got on a bus and showed
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up at the Comedy Cabaret in Minneapolis and went to
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the door and said to the guy, Hey, Scott, I said, where...
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I need to live close by and it's got to
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be cheap because I don't have a car. I don't
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have a car or a driver's license because I got
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arrested so many times. And he's like, well, you don't
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really have to live close. I only booked you for
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one weekend for $ 15. And I was like, oh, my God.
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I left Iowa. I moved out. I'm here. And so
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I walked over across the street to a place called
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Williams Pub. It's a big bar. I got a job
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as a bouncer at a bar back to support my comedy.
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And then I– Lived there five years and I did
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a variety of jobs. And after a couple of years,
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I could support myself doing comedy and started writing. And
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I met Roseanne my first year there. I was 23
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and she just started doing comedy fairly recently out of Denver.
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I started writing some jokes for her and other people that.
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She went on Johnny Carson first time in 1985 and
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did a couple jokes I'd written. And I remember watching
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it and thinking, oh, my friend is amazing and doing
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jokes I'd written. And then in 88, I came out
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to Los Angeles to write her TV show. And, you know,
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I did a Bob Hope special when I came out
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to L.A. And Bob Hope called my dad. And he
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wrote my dad this stuff. And I became friends with
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Bob Hope. I went to his house. I spent time
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with him. And so I peaked then. So 30 years ago,
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I peaked. And there's no other dreams or dreams. there's
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literally nothing I thought oh you know because a lot
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of people have these fantastic dreams Arnold Schwarzenegger talks about
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all these dreams he had and fulfilling him and being
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you know on top of the this industry and that
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industry and I never was like that I was like
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well I want to be on TV once so the
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people at Atomo will like me which it turns out
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that's not true But, you know, my dreams have been fairly,
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you know, fairly limited, but they've all come true. So
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anything that I've imagined, you know, has come true. So I,
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you know, I'm grateful about that.
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I mean, how much, because that's what I was thinking,
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like you.
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system worked in stand-up to within, you know, five or
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six years writing for a, at that point, which very
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quickly became like the top, rated sitcom i mean just
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as a shock to the system like how much of
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that were you not prepared for just being thrown into
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the the you know one of the highest rated.
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Shows right well i think that you if you know
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looking back now you know i mean it's insane to
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leave school my senior year and just leave pack a
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bag a trash bag and leave and go for a
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job is 50 in a different state And love it.
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I loved it. I loved everything about stand-up comedy. I
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love working for nothing. I love, you know, living with
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no money. I love just being in stand-up comedy. I
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love that life. And I think now how that makes
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me so uncomfortable even thinking about it. If my son said,
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that's what I want to do for a living, I'd
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be like, you're insane. There's no way I'm allowing that.
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But I was so crazy that that's who I was,
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you know, then. And when it came time for the
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Roseanne show, I mean, there was so much turmoil when
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I came in. And to be given all that authority...
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and not really know what I'm doing except do the
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best I could and try to, you know, use whatever
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sense I gained at the meatpacking plant or growing up
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with a sense of justice, a sense of right. Here's
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what I knew. It was her show, her vision. I
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knew her vision better than anybody else on the show
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because I'd known her so long and knew her voice
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so well that all I knew is that's the way
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it's going to be. And people that didn't agree with that,
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They had to go. And then I was able to
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bring in my stand-up comedy friends who I knew had
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points of view. They didn't know how to write sitcoms,
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but you can always teach someone the sitcom form. You know,
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here's the two, you know, how you write different acts
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of sitcoms. You can't teach somebody to be funny or
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have a point of view. But I also was reasonable,
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and I let the old-timers, the regular Hollywood guy, hire
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half of the people. And so I worked with another
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executive producer and showed the one I respected And that
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respected Roseanne. And that's how, you know, I think it
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made some really good shows. I think she got to
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a point where she didn't have to worry about it.
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And she'd just show up on Monday and read the script.
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And that's the best you could do. And so I'm
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pretty satisfied with my time there.
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I mean, that was, again, just watching even reruns now.
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Once you guys found your footing, like, and Joss Whedon
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is involved.
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the writing room with Joss Whedon. Oh, my God. I
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remember one time I had some incident. This was before
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I got psychologically evaluated. And they made me fill out
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this form, and I came and gave it to him.
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I said, I thought you might want to see this.
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He had long hair. Oh, man, I gave him a hair. Oh, man.
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I'm sure it was brutal because he was a young kid,
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you know.
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Reading you'll never amount to anything.
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dad's buddy jeff harris the executive producer and then so
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he went so i'm sure he just thinks i'm a
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monster but i don't give a shit uh but you
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know it is you know sometimes it's uncomfortable because
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know uh his uh his dad's buddy was the old
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guard and they came in with the old people they
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did try to uh take the show from Roseanne. And
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really it was her, she didn't even get created by
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credit on her own show called Roseanne. And so she's
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been bad from day one. Now that worked well, that energy,
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but at the end of my time there, it was not,
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it was, you know, the constant battle I had with her,
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she wanted the family to win the lottery. Like she
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was done with, And every show runs this course. That's
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a weird turn in the series. No, no, this family
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doesn't win the lottery. But she was born with what
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was going on. I get that. So I'm glad that
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didn't happen while I was there. It did happen afterwards.
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I think it changed it. I agree.
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I will stand by that middle round of that series
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as one of the best of all time.
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But that's the turning point.
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But it's her vision and her show. And I contributed everything.
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Little things here and there, and I'm happy to have
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done it and honored. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, as you're moving on, whatever the circumstances,
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just moving on into, like, again, trying to look at
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some of the film roles over the years.
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Up and movies were, like, such a huge thing, you know,
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being from a small town. So as you're kind of
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thrown in, I guess I was going to throw it out.
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If you want to do specific ones of just, like,
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amazing stories that you ended up with.
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I tell you, for my career. You know, I went
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and I'm living my dream as a stand-up comedian. That's
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all I want to do. And then I start writing
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for people. And then suddenly I'm a writer on Rosetta.
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then they say one day, well, you should appear on
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the show. You should act on the show. And then
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now I act on the show. And then I start
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getting roles. And I get offered this role in a
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movie called Hero that Stephen Frears directed. So my first
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scenes in a movie literally are with Dustin Hoffman. So
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now I'm an actor. So I go, okay, that's what
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I'm going to do. So I've kind of gone. And
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now at this age, I do all of those things.
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I write, I'm finishing a movie. I'm writing for somebody.
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I have a pilot. You know, I do movie roles.
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I do standup, which is why I'm here. I just
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shot a standup special. I do a lot of things that,
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you know, if I could have been a big movie star,
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which I tried to do in the nineties, but nobody
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wanted that. So, Anyway, so go ahead. Do you have
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any questions about– Well.
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That's actually one of them I had written down was
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Hero because I always felt like that was super underrated.
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Like it just kind of like went under the radar.
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Like it's Stephen Frears. It's a huge director. It had
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an amazing cast.
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And like I feel like it never really got the attention.
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But I guess what was it like– again, all of
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a sudden being thrust into working with this like at
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times like Oscar caliber director depending on his project.
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Oh, for sure.
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For sure.
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And Dustin Hoffman.
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The things I remember the most were, you know, him
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and Dustin had this, Dustin is a handful, and he
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gave Steven a heart, literally a heart attack in the
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middle of the movie. And then Steven came back on
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the set and Dustin got him a heart monitor, like
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this huge, obvious heart monitor. I think it was just
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to fuck with him. But he, you know, Steven Furst
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is a gentle British, this guy from the artsy world,
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from the dangerous liaison world, from And then he comes
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and he's doing this big Hollywood movie with Dustin Hoffman,
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who you may, you may say, roll cameras and where's Dustin?
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He's outside playing football with these homeless guys for real.
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constantly messing with things and messing, you know, when he,
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when the, when I was doing my closeups, he was
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always there, but he would be speaking in Chinese, like
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to keep you alert or whatever. I mean, you know,
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I love the guy and I love Stephen Frears. I mean,
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it was a, So, I'm lucky to be in that.
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You know, I do, I go on and do a
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couple other roles. Herbert Ross was the next director. He's
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got a, you know, he's done some amazing things. I
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can't remember what that movie was called. My next door neighbor,
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Randy Quaid, was in it. Kathleen Turner, Park overall, played
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my wife. Something and something. We filmed that in New Orleans.
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I know that. It was, that was fun. And, you know,
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I've been in 130 movies, four good ones, that's what
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I always say. But, That rolled in, and then eventually
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True Lies. I got that opportunity.
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Again, I guess that's going to be the go-to, but
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I was like, are you sick?
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People still talk about.
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True Lies at this point. I talk about it in
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my act, and I'm about done with that. When I'm
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on the road, I talk about certain things because I
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talk about Arnold and I talk about relationships. It kind
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of ties into... kind of what we talked about, about
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growing up in Iowa and having these dreams. And, you know,
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my act is biographical. And so I talk a little
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bit about growing up and then I get to my
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kids now and my life now. And so that's a
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through line. And, you know, that's one thing that people
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kind of remember. It's the most replayed movie ever on
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cable TV. So, you know, I think there was a
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time where I was just sick of it. Like I thought,
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is that what, you know, there was a time when,
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I was worried, well, is Roseanne the only thing people
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are going to remember? And then I thought, oh, it's
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true lies. And now I just don't care. As long
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as they remember. Well, I don't even care. You know,
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there's just, you know, I don't even care. You know,
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I think it's once you have kids, you realize that
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you're not important whatsoever. And it's also funny what people,
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and I could tell when they light up at the
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end after the shows for pictures and stuff, you never
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know what somebody's going to say, what it is. It
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might be because they're an alcoholic. It might be because
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some kind of childhood abuse. It might be because they
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love the Trailer Park Boys, like I was thinking last night.
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Or that carpool was their favorite movie of all time.
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Soul Plane. There was a couple movies last night. Something
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you did might have touched somebody or they related more,
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more importantly with somebody. And, uh, you know, last night,
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I mean, uh, this is powerful. Last night I, you know,
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I talked about Ashley, my wife and my act and, uh,
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you know, uh, this woman came up and, and, uh,
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God bless her. Uh, she, she said, can I hug you?
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And I said, yeah. She said, when you talked about Ashley,
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I could tell she was emotional. She said, I have
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to tell you that my family bought me tickets to
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the show for Christmas present. And, uh, My daughter was
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named Ashley, and she died a month ago. And I'm
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raising her two daughters who are 11 and 8. And
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I said, I'm so sorry, you know, and we hugged.
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I asked her, and her daughter was an addict. And,
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you know, I said, I appreciate you telling me that
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because I'm an addict, and I needed to hear that.
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I have children, and I'm sorry, and I love you because,
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you know, my grandparents saved my life, my grandmother's. you know,
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I didn't have a mother, and so it was really a,
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you know, I'm grateful to her for, you know, sharing
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that with me, you know, and it was hard, it
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was a, you know, it's not, it's not how you
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think comedy works sometimes, but, you know, those, you know,
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I like, I like funny things, but those things are
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pretty powerful to take back to my room.
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Yeah, I mean, that, that makes an impact yeah yeah
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so is this a comedy podcast not necessarily just entertainment
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you know anyway.
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That woman did be a solid i appreciate her well
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you i.
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Mean you you you kind of joke about not hitting
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that that.
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Stride but that i went back i was looking at
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it was right after true lies and there was one
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of those little wannabe et shows or whatever and they
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as they're discussing you they they bill it as not
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only was your phone ringing off the hook.
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But The hottest new screen star in Hollywood.
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Well, I tell you, here's what happened. After True Lies,
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I did Nine Months, which was my first real starring
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movie with Hugh Grant. And Rob Williams had a smaller part. But,
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you know, Julianne Moore was Hugh's wife and a great
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Joe to kiss on his mind. And Chris Columbus directed it.
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It was great. And, you know, great fun. And then,
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I don't know that it affected the movie, but Hugh
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got arrested. And then one night we went out for...
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you know, and I talk about that in my act too,
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but we went out to dinner and one of us
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went home and went to bed and one of us
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got arrested with a prostitute. And what are the odds
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it was you that went home and went to bed? Exactly. So,
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I don't know that that helped the movie, but I
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think it's quaint to think of a time in Hollywood
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when somebody got arrested with a prostitute was a big story. So,
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you know, and then after that, I think
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started going crazy for me. You know, you start getting
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offered $ 5 million for a movie and you think, well,
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that script You know, I think after that was Big Bully.
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And there was something about that I liked about the
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kid that was– the guy that was a wimp. But
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he got reminded that he used to be tough. And
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it's something– it wasn't quite there in the script. And
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I thought, well, I can make this good. I can
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get my head around this. This is something interesting. And
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then quickly in succession, Carpool and– there was another one. Anyway.
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The Stupids is around. Yeah, yeah. And Stupids was John Landis.
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He did Animal House. I was going to ask about it.
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He's a pretty huge name still.
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Yeah. And, you know, so Carpool was the great Arthur Hiller,
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who does The In-Laws, The Out-Of-Towners. Silver String. Yeah. And
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so I started thinking. And so I just went one
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after another after another. And I did too many. And,
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you know, it's funny because after Nine months, Fox came
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to me and said, we'd like you to do two
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supporting roles a year for X amount of money. It
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was a good amount of money. But they wanted me
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to be exclusive with Fox because both True Lies and
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Nine Months with Fox. And my agent said, don't do
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that because you can't, you know, you can't do other things.
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And I think the first movie they wanted me to
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do was Dunstan Checks In. So we didn't have a
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lot of great. But, you know, I sometimes think, well,
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maybe I should have done that for 10 years and
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but but who knows how that would have turned out
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i think you know and so after doing those three
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in a row or something i you know i realized
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i mean i had a lot of saturday mornings where
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each one was worse where they call with the box
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office numbers yeah and and so i knew that i
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was gonna have to do something different start over do
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independent films do something serious you know i did uh
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the day in Austin Powers, which turned out to be,
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you know, the thing about Austin Powers is you can
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do a day on a movie, and people will remember
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that more than five months on a movie, you know,
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with something. An indie movie. Yeah. And then movies like
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Animal Factory and things where, you know, you have to
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restart your career, and I went back to TV to
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try that. And, you know, I mean, it's, you know,
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I used to think, well, what could I have done differently?
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You know, could I have had more people around me
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give me advice? Could I, you know, did I just,
482
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you know, go for the money? And, you know, what
483
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lessons are to be learned? But, you know, it did,
484
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it happened. It was what it was. And, you know,
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I find whatever, you know, I wish I would save
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up more money, but, you know, it's, yeah.
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No matter how a boy is brought up, As a
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man he could still sing down. People have always told
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It's the way that I'm going down.
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International law has long kept you from acquiring them.
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I hope to help you overcome that.
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And there's only one family who can save it.
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I've uncovered the crime of the century.
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They call them fearless. They call them dangerous. They call them.
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The stupids.
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New Line Cinema invites you to meet the only family
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that does all its own stuff.
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Impossible.
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Whatever.
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Tom Arnold is stupid.
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My family and I do not wish to fight you.
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Get him! Are they giving up?
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No.
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Stanley Stupid.
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What you been doing? Ah, this and that.
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Had breakfast, read the paper, saved the world.
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The Stupid.
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Well, I love the movies.
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Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year.
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We're going to have a great night, ladies and gentlemen.
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And the Oscar goes to.
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Nick Ledger.
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Thank you so much.
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It's going to be artery clocking good.
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You're listening.
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Are you listening to Movie Meltdown?
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I'm Amanda Burse.
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I hope so.
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Love and marriage, love and marriage go together.
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That's part of your problem, you know. You haven't seen
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enough movies.
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All of life's riddles are answered in the movies. And now,
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on with the show.
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I mean, it's been a hell of a life regardless.
592
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.960
I mean, just some of the things you've done. You
593
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:26.390
did mention Animal Factory. That's such a different role. I mean,
594
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I guess you were seeking out something that was way
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more serious.
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00:32:29.650 --> 00:32:33.349
Steve Buscemi directs it. So you're like, Steve Buscemi's director,
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that's over. They actually needed me in that movie to
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get the financing. So they're putting all the pieces together.
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00:32:40.349 --> 00:32:42.470
It's one of those deals. Steve and I had the
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same agent. And My fear was, oh my God, when
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I come on screen, people are going to laugh. It's
602
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a serious movie. I played a prison rapist, but they're
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going to laugh. This is ridiculous. It's Tom Arnold. He
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did such a good job of directing, and I did
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all right, and it worked. That made me happy. There's
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been a few times in my career where I've been
607
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nervous about the role because I don't want to take
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people out of the movie. There's been times where... you know,
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I've had this throughout my career where people are like,
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we love Tom, but he's so famous that we feel
611
00:33:17.349 --> 00:33:19.269
like when he comes on screen, people are going to go,
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that's Tom Arnold, which is a bullshit cop out because,
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you know, obviously famous actors do roles and, you know.
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You can rise above, right. Depends on the performance.
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00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.380
Yeah. You know, Steve Carell was Bobby Riggs, you know,
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and
I fucking bought him as Bobby Riggs. And if
617
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I could, you know, the DuPont guy, I bought him
618
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a hundred percent. And, you know, uh, So I think
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there's a lot of ways to do it if I
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was that good of an actor.
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Which, again, that's working with Willem Dafoe.
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Those are some pretty heavy scenes.
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And my thing is always, what am I going to
624
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learn from this? Hopefully there's better people than me and
625
00:34:00.579 --> 00:34:05.039
I can watch them and pick up something. And that's
626
00:34:05.140 --> 00:34:05.779
usually the case.
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00:34:06.269 --> 00:34:08.530
That was early on for Steve Buscemi. That was like
628
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a second feature, I think. How was he getting into
629
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the director's chair?
630
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Well, he was great. I mean, you know, people love him.
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And people, you could tell everybody was responding to him.
632
00:34:18.030 --> 00:34:22.719
And we filmed it in Holmberg prison, a closed-down prison
633
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outside of Philadelphia there. And it was creepy because it
634
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.719
was built when people were smaller, I think. It was confining.
635
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And even walking in the halls were, you know, there's
636
00:34:32.380 --> 00:34:36.239
a lot of history of that. disgusting place horrible history
637
00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:38.380
you know you got mickey rourke there and you got
638
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all these dudes and danny trejo and you got people
639
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who've been in prison and and uh so but you
640
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know it's also you know we we had fun we
641
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:51.929
there's a lot of laughs too so um but it
642
00:34:51.969 --> 00:34:55.489
was uh you know i was happy to do it well.
643
00:34:55.409 --> 00:34:57.929
As you hit the the new millennium there it's like
644
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you kind of got back into action and And it isn't,
645
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I guess it's all the director, but it is odd that,
646
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you know, when they, anytime they're casting for, you know,
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they want to make a real streets kind of a feel,
648
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you get DMX and you get Tom Arnold.
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Yeah.
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There is a couple there.
651
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And I was just like, this is an interesting, I mean,
652
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was that just through the director or how did you
653
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.199
end up in the, in that series?
654
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--> 00:35:21.440
Well, the director and I are still, I saw him
655
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the other night. We, uh, did a new one with
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him too, right? Yeah, I did a new one in Russia,
657
00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:28.239
but I, uh, we, a buddy of mine, uh, there's
658
00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:32.920
a documentary called Icarus and, uh, brian uh uh did
659
00:35:33.059 --> 00:35:36.539
a uh a documentary he did he actually directed a
660
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movie i was they called jutopia and uh then he
661
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.820
went to he did this amazing documentary where he he's
662
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.940
a cyclist and he wanted to see if you if
663
00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:47.659
he juiced up if he could be as good as
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lance armstrong right i think i remember hearing it ended
665
00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:54.230
up using the russian olympic doping you know cat you
666
00:35:54.510 --> 00:35:57.940
know not The guy from the American Olympic team said, wait,
667
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we can't do it for you. But this guy from
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Russia will. And it turns out he's the guy involved
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in the Russian doping scandal. He ends up having to
670
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sneak out of Russia and stay with this guy. And
671
00:36:06.989 --> 00:36:10.650
now it's this big international story. And so the documentary,
672
00:36:10.730 --> 00:36:15.059
which I love documentaries that are either out of anger
673
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or take a turn where they follow the story.
674
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Like he didn't even know what he was getting himself into.
675
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.739
Like he stumbled into a much more interesting story.
676
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Way more interesting story.
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Yeah.
678
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And even Lance Armstrong's hosting a screening. Rob Reiner hosted
679
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one the other night. But Andre Markowiak, yeah, he, I've
680
00:36:37.409 --> 00:36:38.829
done a bunch of stuff with him, but I think
681
00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:41.960
Joel Silver produced those, and I think he recognized. And,
682
00:36:41.969 --> 00:36:44.659
you know, Anthony Anderson and I are really good together,
683
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.360
and sometimes, you know, when you have the action, it's
684
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.059
good to have comedy, especially when Steven Seagal was in it,
685
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:55.889
who's a dud. But I'm not the only one. You know,
686
00:36:55.909 --> 00:36:59.280
DMX could have had– he had some things going, you know. And,
687
00:36:59.300 --> 00:37:02.840
you know, he could have– you know, he did all right.
688
00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:07.280
I always felt like he– you know, he's a nice guy.
689
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.119
But he just didn't– he wasn't quite
used to– like
690
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:15.320
he was showing up just like it was– it wasn't
691
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like serious. Like he might have a beard in his head,
692
00:37:17.889 --> 00:37:19.489
but he's shooting the scene. Not even thinking about it,
693
00:37:19.489 --> 00:37:22.199
he'd have his– remote control cars there and all his
694
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fucking dogs and you.
695
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.699
Know he forgets the cameras rolling sometimes yeah but he's
696
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.320
a sweet guy you know there's no guile or anything
697
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.989
and Seagal's just he's continually gotten more and more he's
698
00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:39.230
a weirdo sad really like it's just cause those first
699
00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:40.989
couple of roles I remember people like okay we don't
700
00:37:41.010 --> 00:37:42.630
know who this guy is but he seems like he
701
00:37:42.690 --> 00:37:45.670
does kinda have something and then by the time like
702
00:37:45.730 --> 00:37:47.670
we we did a whole episode based around have you
703
00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:49.090
seen the one where he's fighting.
704
00:37:48.829 --> 00:37:53.170
Vampires yeah No, I can't bear that. It's a nightmare.
705
00:37:53.269 --> 00:37:55.429
And he'd gotten so big at that point. He's so fat.
706
00:37:55.630 --> 00:37:57.329
I don't know that he can get a kick up
707
00:37:57.389 --> 00:37:59.570
above about his knee level.
708
00:37:59.989 --> 00:38:02.110
So they did so much editing to work.
709
00:38:01.949 --> 00:38:03.710
Around the fact that he can't really do what he
710
00:38:03.750 --> 00:38:07.989
did 20, 30 years ago. So, yeah, he's become... It's
711
00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:10.630
weird that they keep making those. He's still such a
712
00:38:10.670 --> 00:38:13.610
name on, I guess, a red box now. It's not
713
00:38:13.650 --> 00:38:15.110
even a video draw anymore.
714
00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:18.269
So that's a strange concept. You're a weirdo.
715
00:38:18.969 --> 00:38:22.030
I guess even at that time, not fun to shoot.
716
00:38:22.409 --> 00:38:28.239
Oh, well then I guess even like coming into stuff now, like,
717
00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:29.610
like hit and run.
718
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.719
I just wanted to see you and Dax also seem
719
00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:32.059
to kind.
720
00:38:31.969 --> 00:38:34.159
Of work well together. Yeah, we do. I've done a
721
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:39.599
few things with Dax. I love him. Uh, you know, he, uh, he's, uh,
722
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.719
the first thing he directed was Brothers Justice. And I
723
00:38:42.739 --> 00:38:44.840
remember this thing, it was sort of this, I don't
724
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.539
know how you, what form you would take, you call it, but,
725
00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:50.559
I remember at the time, we were talking, we were
726
00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:51.679
trying to get our, we got a bunch of our
727
00:38:51.739 --> 00:38:53.760
friends in it. And I was like, you know, you
728
00:38:53.780 --> 00:38:56.400
should get a part for Bradley Cooper. Bradley needs to
729
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.289
be in a movie or something. And he's like, yeah,
730
00:38:58.329 --> 00:39:00.190
I think I could do that. And then by the
731
00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:01.860
time we did Hit and Run, we're like, we got to,
732
00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:05.449
we have to get Bradley. Like, Bradley's career is just skyrocketing.
733
00:39:05.610 --> 00:39:08.590
Very quickly, let's get him. Huge star. Whatever we can
734
00:39:08.670 --> 00:39:10.500
do to get him in here. And that's it. That
735
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.239
tells you about the business, you know. Yeah. Bradley Cooper
736
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:17.320
is so smart. He's a great guy, too. He just
737
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:20.469
really is a good dude. He deserves everything, and he
738
00:39:20.469 --> 00:39:24.949
just knows how to play it, and he's worked so hard. So, yeah,
739
00:39:24.969 --> 00:39:28.389
but the same with Dax. He does amazing, and his
740
00:39:28.429 --> 00:39:31.960
wife's amazing. Sometimes that's a hard deal to have that,
741
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:38.059
but they do it well, and they have amazing kids. Yeah,
742
00:39:38.139 --> 00:39:40.099
I've been so in love with Kristen Bell.
743
00:39:40.380 --> 00:39:43.019
I can only assume she really is that genuine. She
744
00:39:43.059 --> 00:39:47.079
seems genuine. Just like such a somewhat grounded person.
745
00:39:47.099 --> 00:39:48.619
She is, but if you were her husband, it would
746
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.840
get on your fucking nerves. I'm telling you. Well, if
747
00:39:50.900 --> 00:39:52.820
everybody was telling you how amazing, you know, and I
748
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.210
mean that in the nicest possible way. I mean, you know.
749
00:39:56.449 --> 00:39:59.269
Your adorableness is really pushing.
750
00:39:58.929 --> 00:40:01.969
Me over the edge. Well, you know, if you know
751
00:40:02.010 --> 00:40:05.170
her history, I know her family, and every time I'm
752
00:40:05.190 --> 00:40:07.530
up in Detroit, her mom invites me over. Now, they
753
00:40:07.550 --> 00:40:10.769
live by the zoo. So every night she went to sleep,
754
00:40:10.909 --> 00:40:13.969
she could hear the lions roar for real. So you say, well,
755
00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:16.510
where does she get that whatever it is she's got?
756
00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:19.389
She's got a lot of, not zest, but she's got
757
00:40:19.429 --> 00:40:21.579
a lot. There's something inside of her because she heard
758
00:40:21.619 --> 00:40:23.900
the lion's roar every night. So she's got that inside
759
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.820
of her. So she's about four foot four.
760
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:27.679
She's a pistol.
761
00:40:27.739 --> 00:40:31.320
Let's go with that. You can't keep that woman down.
762
00:40:31.340 --> 00:40:36.119
She's impressive. Before her next nightmare,
I mean, there's times
763
00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:41.550
when this Joseph Cody, this bad person with the invisible
764
00:40:41.590 --> 00:40:44.460
children in Uganda, Man, she would call me up. She goes,
765
00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:48.619
we're doing this march down by the Santa Monica Pier.
766
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.400
We've got a bunch of people showing up at 4 a.m.
767
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.039
or whatever. She goes, would you show up? I was like,
768
00:40:54.139 --> 00:40:59.900
what is this? She'd be down there with all these randoms.
769
00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.019
When she believes in something, man, she's building wells. I mean,
770
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.969
she goes for it. Dax will say, He'll be home
771
00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:07.849
for the weekend thinking he's going to relax. She's like,
772
00:41:07.869 --> 00:41:10.170
what are you doing? She goes, get the truck. He goes, what?
773
00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:12.510
He goes, did she be loading stuff out of his house?
774
00:41:12.530 --> 00:41:15.070
She goes, we're moving this to a homeless person's house.
775
00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:17.590
He goes, what are you talking about? She found the
776
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:21.519
homeless person. She's loading stuff out of their house. She'll
777
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.340
be like on the road and just give all their
778
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.980
stuff away to people. And he's like, what? We need
779
00:41:26.019 --> 00:41:30.159
to have those in my van. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah.
780
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.489
That would be annoying, but it's wonderful.
781
00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:32.869
Yeah.
782
00:41:32.929 --> 00:41:36.929
But it's also like, whoa, I'm married to fucking mother Teresa.
783
00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:43.530
What the fuck? Anyway. Yeah. But they're, they're great. So yeah. Um, yeah,
784
00:41:43.550 --> 00:41:45.809
I love doing that, that movie. And I loved, uh,
785
00:41:45.969 --> 00:41:48.539
and you know, it's, you know, this year I've done
786
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.699
a few, uh, interesting things. I did this movie, uh,
787
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:56.030
saving Flora or fighting Flora about this elephant, uh, that, uh,
788
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.880
uh that is in a in a circus and it's
789
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.780
old and they've got to put it down and and
790
00:42:02.820 --> 00:42:07.030
this young girl this jenna ortega who's a disney young
791
00:42:07.070 --> 00:42:09.750
lady who's my my son knows.
792
00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:12.250
And she's yeah she made a video surprising how good an.
793
00:42:12.309 --> 00:42:15.280
Actress yeah she's a good actress she's a good kid
794
00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:19.320
too and and her mom is very attractive way younger
795
00:42:19.340 --> 00:42:23.690
than me anyway she uh And she takes the elephant
796
00:42:23.849 --> 00:42:26.510
and takes it on the lamb. And it's a really
797
00:42:26.570 --> 00:42:31.989
cute story. And the elephant was wonderful. And David, our cat,
798
00:42:32.010 --> 00:42:35.800
plays her father. There's some fun people in it. But
799
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.059
this other thing I did last year that's coming out
800
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.000
this year that has won a bunch of horror festival awards.
801
00:42:43.579 --> 00:42:47.519
Horror comedy. Because I didn't know it's called Dead Ant.
802
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.969
And I didn't know there's a lot of trust in
803
00:42:52.010 --> 00:42:55.230
something like this. Now, it's because there's a lot of
804
00:42:55.250 --> 00:42:57.550
special points. You're shooting against the green screen a lot.
805
00:42:57.590 --> 00:43:00.769
But the basic concept is, I play a manager of
806
00:43:00.829 --> 00:43:02.949
a band from the, a hair band from the late 80s,
807
00:43:03.699 --> 00:43:06.739
who is, you know, they've always been around, but they're
808
00:43:06.780 --> 00:43:10.539
making a comeback. I've told the band they're playing at Coachella,
809
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.349
and they were on the way back there, driving down there, Well,
810
00:43:14.369 --> 00:43:18.219
it's actually no cello. But they're just confused. They heard Coach. Anyway,
811
00:43:18.510 --> 00:43:20.320
I explained on the way there. It's a different, it's
812
00:43:20.590 --> 00:43:23.079
hipper than Coach. Anyway, we're on the way there. We
813
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:27.280
stop at Joshua Tree to get some inspiration to write
814
00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:32.280
some music. And the Native American says, don't, whatever you do, don't.
815
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.639
Shot Ass is one of the guys. And Jake Busey
816
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:41.300
and Reese, Billy Walsh from Entourage. I had to think
817
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.030
of his last name. No. What is his fucking last name? Oh,
818
00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:47.489
my God, it's Spacey. He's such a good actor. I
819
00:43:47.530 --> 00:43:50.130
just saw his dad over at Colonel Bryce's house. Anyway,
820
00:43:51.150 --> 00:43:56.949
I got to think of his name. Anyway, so we stop,
821
00:43:57.090 --> 00:44:00.309
and the Native American says, whatever you do, don't harm
822
00:44:00.349 --> 00:44:03.550
anything in nature, not a fly, not a whatever. And
823
00:44:03.590 --> 00:44:06.710
Sean Astin pisses on an ant and kills it. Anyway,
824
00:44:06.730 --> 00:44:10.389
these ants rise up and start growing and killing everybody
825
00:44:10.449 --> 00:44:12.889
and ripping people's arms. And it's about the journey getting
826
00:44:12.929 --> 00:44:16.179
to this concert. And, you know, it's a metaphor. And
827
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.360
I got to play, I did this documentary called Supermatch.
828
00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:23.659
Supermatch is a legend of Shep Gordon that my buddy
829
00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:26.420
Mike Myers directed about our buddy Shep Gordon. And it's
830
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.539
this guy, this longtime music manager that no matter fucking
what,
831
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.929
he's managed Alice Cooper over the years. And no matter
832
00:44:32.969 --> 00:44:35.789
what happens, you know, the fucking chicken gets destroyed on stage.
833
00:44:35.809 --> 00:44:37.269
They're going to fucking, the show's going to go on.
834
00:44:37.309 --> 00:44:39.469
I'll make sure he's there. Don't worry. So I play
835
00:44:39.510 --> 00:44:42.679
that guy. And so it was fun. And watching the
836
00:44:42.739 --> 00:44:44.719
other guys, they really were into it. The guys who
837
00:44:44.739 --> 00:44:48.039
played the band and the women. And they had fun.
838
00:44:48.059 --> 00:44:50.260
But you don't know there's a lot of green screen stuff.
839
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.679
And Ron Carlson, who's the special effects guy, this is
840
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:55.840
the first thing directing, I think. I think he's directed
841
00:44:56.019 --> 00:44:58.619
some others and stuff. But this is the first big film,
842
00:44:58.659 --> 00:45:00.619
I think. And so you've got to trust. When I
843
00:45:00.659 --> 00:45:02.340
saw his reel, I was like, this guy did some
844
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.960
very cool. If he could do this on a... Anyway,
845
00:45:04.980 --> 00:45:09.280
it turned out fantastic. And very seldom am I surprised
846
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.710
by stuff. And I went to the premiere and I
847
00:45:12.070 --> 00:45:14.460
was like, wow, this is, you did a good job.
848
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.860
And so, you know, and it's a different genre. It's
849
00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:22.670
a genre where I grew up, you had the theater downtown,
850
00:45:22.690 --> 00:45:24.849
then you had the drive-in. When I was a kid,
851
00:45:24.909 --> 00:45:28.809
the drive-in was the horror movies. And you went there
852
00:45:28.849 --> 00:45:30.130
not just to watch the movie. You went there for
853
00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:31.030
the experience.
854
00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:31.949
The atmosphere.
855
00:45:32.070 --> 00:45:32.289
Right.
856
00:45:32.889 --> 00:45:35.670
And the thing about horror movies is you aren't a
857
00:45:35.710 --> 00:45:38.730
film critic. You buy into the fucking deal. You don't
858
00:45:38.750 --> 00:45:41.210
expect the special effects to be fucking perfect. It's about,
859
00:45:41.869 --> 00:45:43.750
if you're an asshole, don't go to a fucking horror movie.
860
00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:44.710
You just want blood and guts.
861
00:45:44.769 --> 00:45:46.050
It doesn't have to look real. You want to be
862
00:45:46.090 --> 00:45:47.889
scared a little bit. You want to see the person
863
00:45:47.909 --> 00:45:50.230
scared in the car next to you. You know, you
864
00:45:50.250 --> 00:45:51.889
want to piss outside your car. You want to yell
865
00:45:51.929 --> 00:45:56.119
at people. You know, and... So it's that kind of movie.
866
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.380
But it's also a comedy, which is... There's some good
867
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.900
comedy in it, too. So, I don't know. There's that.
868
00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:03.960
Has it come full circle? Are you still a horror
869
00:46:03.980 --> 00:46:07.789
fan now? Do you seek that stuff out now?
870
00:46:07.849 --> 00:46:10.429
Oh, yeah, I do. You know, because I have kids,
871
00:46:10.469 --> 00:46:13.690
I'm trying to decide... What's appropriate. But I watch... My
872
00:46:13.710 --> 00:46:16.210
son watches the cartoons. He's four, and he likes a
873
00:46:16.530 --> 00:46:19.389
lot of scary stuff. Yeah. But I'm waiting for him
874
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:25.900
to guide me back to... you know, uh, I guess
875
00:46:25.980 --> 00:46:31.280
I'm not, uh, I'm not a huge, I liked horror,
876
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.460
funny horror stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's
877
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.380
some funny stuff to it. And then another little thing
878
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.449
I did, uh, which is this movie, uh, I think
879
00:46:38.489 --> 00:46:42.590
it's called Dying, and, uh, it's very, very, very low budget, independent,
880
00:46:42.710 --> 00:46:45.269
and Brian did it, he plays my dad, and, and
881
00:46:45.309 --> 00:46:47.610
there's a bunch, J.K. Simmons is in it, there's a
882
00:46:47.650 --> 00:46:51.090
bunch of really good people, a bunch of really good actors,
883
00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:54.630
and he's dying, and, uh, Brian and, You know, it's
884
00:46:54.670 --> 00:46:58.369
about that. A guy wrote it about his father dying
885
00:46:58.449 --> 00:47:03.489
and a pretty heavy thing. Very low budget. I got
886
00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:05.769
to the set the first day. I was like, what
887
00:47:05.809 --> 00:47:08.750
the fuck did I get myself into? There's nowhere to
888
00:47:08.869 --> 00:47:11.889
fucking lay my shit down here. But then I look
889
00:47:11.909 --> 00:47:14.789
around and all the other... Leslie Ann Ward was the mom,
890
00:47:14.869 --> 00:47:18.070
our mom. And I thought, well, if Leslie Ann Ward
891
00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:21.389
had fucking... Ryan Dennehy gets to do it, I could
892
00:47:21.429 --> 00:47:24.510
fucking suck it up because those guys... And, you know,
893
00:47:25.130 --> 00:47:27.739
this Larry Clark who did it, who directed it and
894
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:28.980
wrote it, he got a lot of credit.
895
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.019
Okay, that makes sense now.
896
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:30.380
Yeah.
897
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:33.059
He doesn't bother with a big budget anything most of
898
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.199
the time. So, yeah, that seems about right.
899
00:47:35.980 --> 00:47:37.900
So, you know, we'll see what happens.
900
00:47:37.940 --> 00:47:40.699
But you've got, again, looking at the lineup, you've got
901
00:47:40.739 --> 00:47:43.849
a ton of projects that are just done or about
902
00:47:43.889 --> 00:47:46.630
coming out. Is it, I guess, what is sort of
903
00:47:46.670 --> 00:47:47.590
fueling that now?
904
00:47:47.710 --> 00:47:50.650
Is it
just... I want to work. I need to work.
905
00:47:50.730 --> 00:47:53.360
I need to work. I need to keep working. you know,
906
00:47:53.860 --> 00:47:57.949
I don't have, you know, the thing about our, our
907
00:47:57.989 --> 00:48:03.269
business is there's no five-year contract. There's no, uh, at least,
908
00:48:03.329 --> 00:48:04.269
especially not anymore.
909
00:48:04.289 --> 00:48:06.809
The way it runs now, it's nothing like that.
910
00:48:07.369 --> 00:48:10.360
And I think that in the eighties and maybe early nineties,
911
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.179
people that were comics could, if they had a good act,
912
00:48:13.219 --> 00:48:15.059
they could decide to do a sitcom. That's a hundred
913
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:18.940
million dollars or $ 200 million. Like Roseanne or Seinfeld or
914
00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:22.360
those guys. And, And then you're set. Those days are gone.
915
00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:25.500
Those days are gone. Long gone. The great thing about
916
00:48:25.539 --> 00:48:27.900
doing stand-up comedy is, I will say this, I can
917
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:29.739
always go on the road to take care of my family,
918
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:33.820
and I do have to work. If you do Google
919
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.780
net worth, it seems like I don't have to work,
920
00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:40.000
but I do have to work. I took no settlement
921
00:48:40.019 --> 00:48:43.260
from Roseanne. I took no alimony. It's public record. I
922
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.730
always joke that I did, but I did it. So
923
00:48:45.769 --> 00:48:47.730
I have to work, which is fine. I wish I
924
00:48:47.750 --> 00:48:48.829
wouldn't have taken it now that I'm.
925
00:48:48.789 --> 00:48:49.269
Talking about it.
926
00:48:49.690 --> 00:48:55.309
But I, you know, and that's scary, but it's also,
927
00:48:55.429 --> 00:48:58.210
I'm so grateful that I could figure out something, that
928
00:48:58.230 --> 00:48:59.360
I could do this.
929
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:01.719
I mean, you've got a lot of paths to work with.
930
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.960
Do you think worse comes to worse? Can you handle life?
931
00:49:05.420 --> 00:49:06.920
Can you go back to the meatpacking place?
932
00:49:07.179 --> 00:49:09.920
Well, I got fired from there. I got fired because
933
00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:14.039
I called in sick. I was going to community college,
934
00:49:14.099 --> 00:49:17.760
Indian Hills at the time, and I was working nights
935
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.599
in the smoke shop there. And I... said to myself,
936
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.119
I want to get the college experience. I need to
937
00:49:23.179 --> 00:49:25.199
feel like I'm going to college because all my buddies
938
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.239
were at the University of Iowa. And community college is different.
939
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.559
And so there was a college party. And so that means,
940
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.980
you know, the average age person there was
like 60
941
00:49:34.980 --> 00:49:37.420
because it was fucking community college. And so I went
942
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.349
to it. I called in sick. Went to the community
943
00:49:39.369 --> 00:49:41.769
college party, and it was over like at 8 at night.
944
00:49:42.210 --> 00:49:42.949
I was like, fuck this.
945
00:49:42.969 --> 00:49:43.949
That's a good party in my mind.
946
00:49:43.969 --> 00:49:46.110
Yeah, yeah. So I was like, fuck this. Let's do
947
00:49:46.150 --> 00:49:49.260
something college-y. So I go, let's go streaky. So we
948
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:53.119
streaked through Mr. Quits. That's another restaurant. Nobody, literally, the
949
00:49:53.139 --> 00:49:54.639
chef was in the back, and there was nobody there
950
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.559
that saw us. So I was like, that fucking... And
951
00:49:56.579 --> 00:49:58.619
then I said, I know where there's people. We went
952
00:49:58.659 --> 00:50:02.300
to Jefferson Square Manor, the old folks' home. Fucking came, hauled,
953
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.440
because we knew the nurses, see? Hauled through there, and...
954
00:50:05.739 --> 00:50:07.949
I thought, they'll love it. That's all I always thought.
955
00:50:07.969 --> 00:50:11.389
They'll love it. Yeah. Well, they didn't love it. And
956
00:50:11.429 --> 00:50:13.610
they called the cops. The cops, evidently, they called them
957
00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:16.349
from the first place. They were waiting. So we come
958
00:50:16.389 --> 00:50:19.909
running out of there. They're waiting. And my two buddies,
959
00:50:19.949 --> 00:50:21.369
my two fat buddies, jump in the back of the
960
00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:23.190
car and put their shirts on. And I'm like, fuck it.
961
00:50:23.710 --> 00:50:25.670
I know I'm arrested. I'll just put my shirts on
962
00:50:25.710 --> 00:50:27.849
outside the car like a human. They handcuffed me behind
963
00:50:27.889 --> 00:50:32.420
my back. Take me to jail naked. Fucking... You know,
964
00:50:32.739 --> 00:50:36.969
I always say this is true. If you get arrested
965
00:50:36.989 --> 00:50:38.650
for public duty in an old folks' home in a
966
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.289
small town, it will be in the paper. And they
967
00:50:41.309 --> 00:50:42.789
will read it in a whore bell, and you will
968
00:50:42.809 --> 00:50:47.650
get fired. That's what really happened. And I thought, oh,
969
00:50:47.670 --> 00:50:50.230
my God, my life's over. I got fired. And my
970
00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:52.530
grandparents were like, this is the best job. My grandma
971
00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:54.289
was like, you'll never get a better job than this.
972
00:50:54.909 --> 00:50:57.869
And so what I did is funny because people were
973
00:50:57.909 --> 00:51:00.570
tweeting this. Last week and the week after, there was
974
00:51:00.590 --> 00:51:03.250
a news story because What I did is I ran
975
00:51:03.309 --> 00:51:05.769
out of money for college to finish my Indian Hills,
976
00:51:06.230 --> 00:51:08.199
and I came up with a scheme that I walked
977
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.380
20 miles in my underwear in December of 1980. I
978
00:51:13.019 --> 00:51:15.159
called it From Here to There in Underwear, and people
979
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:18.239
pledged money, and I put their logos on my underwear
980
00:51:18.260 --> 00:51:21.400
and T-shirt, and it was in the papers in the
981
00:51:21.420 --> 00:51:23.159
New York Times and the National Enquirer. It was the
982
00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:26.269
first time I had publicity like that, and I raised
983
00:51:26.309 --> 00:51:28.050
enough money to pay the rest of my way through school.
984
00:51:28.510 --> 00:51:30.940
I also liked it because it was like, I was
985
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.389
in the Enquirer, too. Like, this kid, this college kid
986
00:51:33.449 --> 00:51:36.150
is doing this weird thing. And it was fucking cold.
987
00:51:36.190 --> 00:51:38.230
I remember that. And my buddies were in the van
988
00:51:38.250 --> 00:51:40.409
because we had a, it was like a NASCAR thing.
989
00:51:40.449 --> 00:51:42.469
We had a van and they were all drunk. And
990
00:51:42.489 --> 00:51:46.199
I was walking on this 21 miles of fucking freezing highway.
991
00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.699
And there's film crews. But it gave me a little
992
00:51:48.739 --> 00:51:52.690
taste of what, you know, something bigger is. you know.
993
00:51:52.869 --> 00:51:55.650
Well, and that's, that's impressive just because that was when
994
00:51:55.670 --> 00:51:57.820
there was no way to get the word out.
995
00:51:58.139 --> 00:51:58.590
Right.
996
00:51:58.610 --> 00:52:00.539
So, worse comes to worse now, you can do a
997
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.880
Patreon page, you can do a Kickstarter, you can do
998
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:03.559
this again.
999
00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:04.300
Oh, God.
1000
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:05.579
Oh, God.
1001
00:52:05.699 --> 00:52:09.119
Well, you know, there's always, you know, I have, the
1002
00:52:09.139 --> 00:52:12.980
thing about growing up like I did and living like
1003
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.019
I did is I have done, you know, this is,
1004
00:52:17.300 --> 00:52:20.750
this is, I always go, this is pretty good and
1005
00:52:20.789 --> 00:52:23.570
no matter what, you know, there was a, This isn't
1006
00:52:24.469 --> 00:52:27.869
the fanciest life I've lived, but this is far from
1007
00:52:27.989 --> 00:52:30.710
the worst life I've lived. So I'm doing all right.
1008
00:52:30.849 --> 00:52:32.909
And even as it's come around, because I saw earlier
1009
00:52:32.949 --> 00:52:36.429
this year you doing press for it, it's a different version.
1010
00:52:36.489 --> 00:52:38.949
But the fact that you got to be on Battle
1011
00:52:38.969 --> 00:52:39.809
of the Network Stars.
1012
00:52:40.230 --> 00:52:43.250
Oh, yeah. I just wanted to win that. All I
1013
00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:46.530
cared about. I went down there. I was so fucking
tired.
1014
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:48.320
I'd come back from.
1015
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.079
Everybody that shows up kind of feels like this. This
1016
00:52:51.179 --> 00:52:52.800
is a different version of the old days.
1017
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.550
Everybody seems worn out.
1018
00:52:55.650 --> 00:52:58.829
I was so tired. And they were like, I showed
1019
00:52:58.889 --> 00:53:00.329
up late. I missed a couple of things. Well, first
1020
00:53:00.389 --> 00:53:02.750
of all, I asked what the competitions were before I
1021
00:53:02.769 --> 00:53:04.909
got there. So I didn't even hurry to get there.
1022
00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:08.570
I was late. So I missed the first couple of things.
1023
00:53:08.929 --> 00:53:11.170
But I looked at the things. I was like. And
1024
00:53:11.190 --> 00:53:14.300
they go, the tug-of-war is double the points. I go, okay,
1025
00:53:14.500 --> 00:53:16.679
that's what we're going to win. And everybody was like,
1026
00:53:16.699 --> 00:53:20.579
you know, I knew that Andre were the coaches because
1027
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.940
of my sports show. They're like, you fucking asshole. I go, no, no,
1028
00:53:24.019 --> 00:53:26.300
I got this, the last thing. They go, you're a
1029
00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.179
crazy person. I go, yeah, I am. We're going to
1030
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.159
win this last thing. And they're like, yeah. And then
1031
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.260
I just knew, because tug-of-war, being from Iowa, again, we
1032
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.610
won the national Miller Lite tug-of-war. They said these Miller
1033
00:53:37.630 --> 00:53:40.949
Lite commercials, and Boo Pow came to our fucking down
1034
00:53:41.010 --> 00:53:43.519
at our community college meet all the big colleges because
1035
00:53:43.539 --> 00:53:45.880
we had so many fat big guys and I just
1036
00:53:45.900 --> 00:53:48.099
knew put me the anchor I fucking know how to
1037
00:53:48.300 --> 00:53:52.679
and I just coached up those those uh TV young
1038
00:53:52.780 --> 00:53:55.199
TV actors or whatever they were and I said, here's
1039
00:53:55.219 --> 00:53:57.179
how we're going to do it. I'm holding down the floor. Yeah,
1040
00:53:57.219 --> 00:53:59.820
all I did was say one last thing. Because the
1041
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.539
way I figured out the points, you really only had
1042
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:03.489
to win the last thing. You could lose everything else.
1043
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.570
I think the rest is fluff.
1044
00:54:05.590 --> 00:54:08.289
ABC could not make it so the last thing didn't matter.
1045
00:54:08.889 --> 00:54:10.610
So I knew that in advance because it's a TV show.
1046
00:54:11.090 --> 00:54:14.210
So you could lose every fucking thing. But the last thing,
1047
00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:18.320
for people to keep watching it, They had to rig it,
1048
00:54:18.420 --> 00:54:19.340
so the last thing.
1049
00:54:19.380 --> 00:54:22.159
Because, yeah, everybody gets so far ahead.
1050
00:54:22.179 --> 00:54:24.139
So I only had to be there. I knew I
1051
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:26.750
just had to be there for the last thing. But
1052
00:54:26.769 --> 00:54:29.469
that was late. But it was, I don't know. They
1053
00:54:29.489 --> 00:54:32.650
paid money, but it was. But, you know, you get
1054
00:54:32.670 --> 00:54:35.190
that thing and you go, well, I'll give this a
1055
00:54:35.250 --> 00:54:37.219
shot and see what happens. I got no.
1056
00:54:37.699 --> 00:54:39.280
I mean, that was one of my favorite things as
1057
00:54:39.300 --> 00:54:40.179
a kid, like that.
1058
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:41.079
Just watching that.
1059
00:54:41.219 --> 00:54:42.500
Oh, my God, when I was a kid, I did it, too.
1060
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.250
Oh, my God, I love that. I know. Well, that's
1061
00:54:44.269 --> 00:54:46.289
what I do is I get a little nostalgic. I
1062
00:54:46.309 --> 00:54:49.550
started watching on YouTube the ones as a kid and
1063
00:54:49.590 --> 00:54:52.429
see how many people did it. And then I was like, well,
1064
00:54:52.449 --> 00:54:56.900
I assume big people do it now. No. No. Well,
1065
00:54:56.940 --> 00:54:57.619
it's just such a.
1066
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.530
Yeah, I mean, it was such an A-list group of people,
1067
00:55:00.570 --> 00:55:01.579
especially TV.
1068
00:55:01.610 --> 00:55:03.269
But they wouldn't even pull in film actors.
1069
00:55:03.409 --> 00:55:04.210
No, yeah, they would.
1070
00:55:04.230 --> 00:55:06.369
You'd get, yeah, the fact that they'd get Michael J.
1071
00:55:06.429 --> 00:55:07.429
Fox on the team.
1072
00:55:07.510 --> 00:55:07.730
Right.
1073
00:55:07.789 --> 00:55:09.280
And you're like, now, like, there's no way.
1074
00:55:09.289 --> 00:55:10.929
Well, they also had athletes that were, like, competing. They
1075
00:55:10.949 --> 00:55:11.230
had people.
1076
00:55:11.289 --> 00:55:11.489
Yeah.
1077
00:55:11.929 --> 00:55:14.710
You could tell that even the actors were actually competing against, like,
1078
00:55:14.769 --> 00:55:15.610
it meant something.
1079
00:55:15.820 --> 00:55:18.340
And, like, a little, like, upset sometimes.
1080
00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:18.500
Right.
1081
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:20.340
Because that's one of the ones, it was towards the end,
1082
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.820
I think, because Brian Wimmer was there. So it's, like,
1083
00:55:22.860 --> 00:55:26.679
him and China Beach Day's. And, like, he was competing, like,
1084
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:28.619
in the, I think the relay kind of where they
1085
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.460
go through the whole obstacle course.
1086
00:55:31.019 --> 00:55:33.110
And it was him against Eric, or no, it was
1087
00:55:33.349 --> 00:55:34.150
Lorenzo Lamas.
1088
00:55:34.610 --> 00:55:34.909
Oh, yeah.
1089
00:55:34.969 --> 00:55:37.469
I think Cotel or something. Whatever he was on for
1090
00:55:37.510 --> 00:55:40.300
whatever network. And he was the cockiest
bastard.
1091
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:41.139
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
1092
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:42.840
He was so full of himself the whole show.
1093
00:55:43.170 --> 00:55:45.670
So they get to that big finale and he, Ryan
1094
00:55:45.690 --> 00:55:48.960
Wimmer just kind of sneaks in there and totally just.
1095
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:49.460
Beats his ass.
1096
00:55:49.500 --> 00:55:51.679
And I'm just like, this is why you watch this
1097
00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:53.420
because you would never expect that.
1098
00:55:53.500 --> 00:55:55.489
So yeah, those are the ones I love. Just kind of,
1099
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.159
you can see it really was sort of a real.
1100
00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:01.070
Where now I don't know how real any of that is, but,
1101
00:56:01.610 --> 00:56:04.110
but yeah, it felt like it actually was competition back then.
1102
00:56:04.130 --> 00:56:06.510
It was, it was genuinely, you know, stars being.
1103
00:56:06.389 --> 00:56:07.210
Annoyed at each other.
1104
00:56:07.349 --> 00:56:09.510
Yeah. Nobody cared.
1105
00:56:10.570 --> 00:56:12.329
Um, so you've got, you know, you've got all these
1106
00:56:12.369 --> 00:56:15.309
new projects coming out. You're, you're doing standup now, I guess.
1107
00:56:15.449 --> 00:56:18.250
What's the best way for people to follow you?
1108
00:56:18.269 --> 00:56:21.190
Do you have a big internet presence?
1109
00:56:21.349 --> 00:56:25.510
I do Twitter a lot. So at Tom Arnold and, uh, and, uh,
1110
00:56:25.550 --> 00:56:28.010
that's a good place. I'm on Instagram too and Facebook,
1111
00:56:28.030 --> 00:56:32.230
but you know, I do, uh, Twitter's a good place. Yeah.
1112
00:56:32.250 --> 00:56:36.780
Get very, uh, sometimes political, sometimes humorous, sometimes stuff with
1113
00:56:36.820 --> 00:56:40.349
my kids, variety of stuff. But, uh, You know, I
1114
00:56:40.369 --> 00:56:42.630
have fun on there. All right. We'll tell everybody to
1115
00:56:42.690 --> 00:56:43.210
follow you.
1116
00:56:43.530 --> 00:56:46.289
I may round it out with, you know, I've always
1117
00:56:46.309 --> 00:56:48.050
been a big fan of I'm My Own Grandpa.
1118
00:56:48.510 --> 00:56:48.760
Oh, yeah.
1119
00:56:48.780 --> 00:56:50.239
Were you familiar with that song before?
1120
00:56:50.260 --> 00:56:50.519
I was.
1121
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.880
I always heard it on Dr. Demento growing up.
1122
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.559
Well, you know, Glenn Miller is from Iowa. Yeah. And
1123
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.519
he wrote the song. And did you know that? I
1124
00:56:58.559 --> 00:56:59.599
don't know. I don't think so.
1125
00:56:59.699 --> 00:57:03.519
I just remember hearing it and loving how complex and
1126
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:05.510
silly it was all at the same time.
1127
00:57:05.610 --> 00:57:07.530
Right. Well, it's an old song. It's an old song
1128
00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:09.679
from the. And, of course, speaking for Iowa, it's also
1129
00:57:09.699 --> 00:57:12.449
a hillbilly song. So, of course, I know it. But
1130
00:57:12.469 --> 00:57:14.710
the funny thing is, John Lattice gave it to me
1131
00:57:14.769 --> 00:57:17.909
before the movie started on a cassette back in the day.
1132
00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:20.889
And said, learn this. And I did not learn this.
1133
00:57:20.909 --> 00:57:22.250
It was the last thing we filmed. And I had
1134
00:57:22.269 --> 00:57:23.769
to read it off the teleprompter. And you could tell
1135
00:57:23.809 --> 00:57:26.030
I'm reading it off the teleprompter in the movie. And
1136
00:57:26.050 --> 00:57:28.920
he was so pissed off at me. But it kind
1137
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:34.199
of works. But, you know, I've been... You know, I
1138
00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:36.059
did my best.
1139
00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:39.559
Again, it's complex, so that's probably not one to wing it.
1140
00:57:39.619 --> 00:57:42.900
No, you're right. It backfired on you. Plus, my character,
1141
00:57:43.340 --> 00:57:45.630
Stanley Stupid, seems like he's reading everything we're going to
1142
00:57:45.650 --> 00:57:46.570
tell him about.
1143
00:57:46.690 --> 00:57:47.030
Possibly.
1144
00:57:47.110 --> 00:57:50.090
It works. Yeah, thank you. All right. Well, I think
1145
00:57:50.110 --> 00:57:52.550
that is it. Thank you for joining us, man.
1146
00:57:52.670 --> 00:57:53.050
Thank you.
1147
00:57:55.909 --> 00:57:57.820
So, yes, a huge thank you to Tom for sitting
1148
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.150
in with us this week. Go follow him on Twitter
1149
00:58:00.190 --> 00:58:02.909
and read some of those many categories of his posts,
1150
00:58:03.329 --> 00:58:05.409
and go see him live while he's out touring with
1151
00:58:05.449 --> 00:58:07.570
his stand-up. And if you happen to meet him after
1152
00:58:07.610 --> 00:58:09.550
the show and take a minute to tell him how
1153
00:58:09.590 --> 00:58:12.429
he touched your life, well, eventually, be sure to tell
1154
00:58:12.469 --> 00:58:15.829
him you also heard him on Movie Meltdown. Otherwise, that
1155
00:58:15.869 --> 00:58:18.250
about does it. We will return next time, same geek feed.
1156
00:58:18.590 --> 00:58:19.369
Thanks for listening.
1157
00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:24.070
Well, to tell you the truth, I'm... I'm my own grandpa.
1158
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.110
You're your own grandpa? That's right. Well, for those of
1159
00:58:29.210 --> 00:58:31.039
us who've never heard of such a thing, maybe you
1160
00:58:31.059 --> 00:58:34.039
could explain. Of course. It's quite simple, really.
1161
00:58:34.420 --> 00:58:38.039
Many, many years ago when I was 23, I was
1162
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:41.110
married to a widow who was pretty as could be.
1163
00:58:41.570 --> 00:58:44.849
This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red.
1164
00:58:45.250 --> 00:58:47.730
My father fell in love with her and soon they
1165
00:58:47.769 --> 00:58:50.929
two were wed. This made my dad my son-in-law and
1166
00:58:50.969 --> 00:58:54.099
changed my very life, for my daughter was my mother
1167
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.900
cause she was my father's wife. To complicate the matter
1168
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.079
even though it brought me joy, I soon became the
1169
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:05.110
father of a bouncing baby boy. My little baby then
1170
00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:09.010
became a brother-in-law to dad, and so became my uncle
1171
00:59:09.070 --> 00:59:11.980
though it made me very sad. For if he was
1172
00:59:12.019 --> 00:59:14.960
my uncle, then that also made him brother to the
1173
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.179
widow's grown-up daughter, who of course was my stepmother.
1174
00:59:18.219 --> 00:59:20.500
I walked his life and I had a son who
1175
00:59:20.539 --> 00:59:23.949
kept him on the run. And he became my grandchild
1176
00:59:23.989 --> 00:59:26.949
for he was my daughter's son My wife is now
1177
00:59:26.989 --> 00:59:30.769
my mother's mother and it makes me blue Because although
1178
00:59:30.809 --> 00:59:34.510
she is my wife, she's my grandmother too I'm my
1179
00:59:34.869 --> 00:59:43.460
own grandpa I'm my own grandpa It sounds funny, I know, but.
1180
00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:44.900
It really is so.
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I'm my own grandpa Oh, if my wife is my grandmother,
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then I'm her grandchild. And every time I think of it,
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it nearly drives me wild. For now I have become
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the strangest case you ever saw. As husband of my
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old grandmother, I'm my own grandpa. I'm my own grandpa.
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I'm my own grandpa. It sounds funny, I know, but
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it really is so.
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I'm my own grandpa.
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I had no idea nothing was going on, right? I
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come home one day, and the house is completely empty.
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And I mean completely empty. She even took the ice
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cube trays out of the freezer. What kind of a
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sick bitch takes the ice cube trays out of the freezer?
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