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What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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I'm Nora.
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I'm Ben.
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I'm Phillip.
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And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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the Oddity Studios on a lovely, like, ridiculously lovely day. So,
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of course, I had to drag you guys inside so
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that you don't get to have fun in it. So,
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you're welcome. So, I thought, once again, we're gathered together.
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It's been a few weeks.
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Dearly beloved.
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Dearly beloved.
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Let's start some.
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I don't know what happened.
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I'm sorry. This is not... brought to you by m
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& ms but if they'd like to kick in money
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feel free but yes we're all together so i thought
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let's discuss some things we've seen lately uh i just
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watched the um i wanted to see it since i
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saw the trailer like last year i know because we
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talked about it on the episode at the time and
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i was just like all right this actually legitimately looks
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good uh bad times at el royale oh I wanted
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to see that one. Yeah, has anybody seen it?
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I came very close to seeing it.
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It is as good as I expected and actually kind
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of a little more impressive. Just once I got into it,
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the more and more you kind of look at everything
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else going on, it's kind of amazing how much effort
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they put into this. And then I started thinking because
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I watched the little behind the scenes and it's like
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bringing up Drew Goddard. And I'm like, why do I,
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I know, like, I really know that name. I was like,
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isn't he like Buffy related? So if you go back
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far enough, he was writing for Buffy. Then the reason
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I was like, oh, no wonder I know him. He's
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the creator of the Daredevil series. So like, obviously he
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knows kind of what he's doing as far as like
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these stories. But yeah, it's sort of film noir in
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the best possible way. Like it's a neo-noir kind of thing,
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but it's also the If there's a gimmick, like, but
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I mean gimmick even within the story, like it's meant
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to be a gimmick. The El Royale is a hotel
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and it is literally on, and I mean that by
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dividing line running through, it is a hotel on the
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border of Nevada and California. And the line runs through
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the middle of the lobby. And there's so much so
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that like you can drink in one state, but you
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can't like over here. You can gamble in this state,
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but you can't over here. So like you can wander
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back and forth within the lobby and partake in all this.
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except like a year or two before they lost their
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gambling license. So now we're on like the down and
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out years of the El Royale. So the whole thing
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kind of centers around this and almost never leaves this hotel.
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And it's pretty amazing. And again, in the trailer, you're
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looking at Chris Hemsworth and you're like, damn, he's studly.
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And then like you realize like within the context of
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the movie, no, there's a reason he's that damn charismatic. Like, yup.
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And my initial issue was, as I previously stated, problems
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with Dakota Johnson. Dakota, there we go. We never fully
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discussed after I saw the Suspiria thing, but to me
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she was the problem in Suspiria. And she doesn't have
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enough to do in this to really become an issue.
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I mean, all she's asked to do is be kind
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of pissy and annoyed at everyone and rude, and she
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does all those pretty well. So
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again, she, sometimes you
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can cast within what a person does.
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Okay.
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And it doesn't hurt the overall project, but everybody else
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is like amazing.
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It's yeah.
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It's surprisingly well put together. The time that they put
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into just like color coordinating, like each side of the
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hotel has its own color theme. And like, even within
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the plot, they have like reasons why, like we don't
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use this color or this is like the, like everybody's
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costume sort of fits into it. Like, They spent so
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much time on the backstory. That's why I was kind
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of like, this Drew Goddard guy, I know I know
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him for a reason. And yeah, he put a ridiculous
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amount of time into it. So it's got, yeah, it's
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got a great soundtrack. Like everything about it is kind
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of worth watching. So I was impressed with it.
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Didn't he do Cabin in the Woods too?
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Yeah, that was the other, I went back. That was
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the only other like feature thing that he'd done, which
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I always kind of threw it out that half of
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that was sort of, I don't know. I wondered how
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much was him directing versus... Because that's Joss too, wasn't it?
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So I kind of wondered if that was kind of
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co-done by Joss, especially since he hadn't done a feature before,
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how much Joss sort of came in and helped run everything.
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But I felt more problems with that. I haven't revisited it,
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so I kind of need to go back and re-watch
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Cabin in the Woods.
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It takes a while to ramp up for me.
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And it feels like it's not... trying that hard in
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the beginning like it's it's obviously making fun of those
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kind of horror movies but it didn't seem like it
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was doing it in a super clever way right it
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just seemed like it was very blatantly making fun of
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dumb horror movies i'm like yeah but again i think
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i had set my heights a little higher because i
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knew joss was involved so i was like i expect
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him to you know write really impressive stuff and this
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just seems like again if i didn't know any of
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the people involved i might be like that's fine it's
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pretty cool As a concept. And by the end, it is.
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It's an amazing concept. But, yeah, that first half just
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seemed clunky at the time. But, again, I'll revisit. But, yeah,
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El Royale is pretty badass.
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I kind of got... What was that movie that came
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out with, like, John Cusack and, like, all those people
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at the motel?
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It really, like.
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I was kind of thinking that.
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What was that?
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Like when I saw the trailer for El Royale, I
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was like, okay, this is clearly going to have some
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like insane twist or something to it.
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I feel like.
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The room 413 or whatever.
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No but he also is in that I was getting
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those vibes too.
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Yeah he was in that too yeah John Cusack he
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likes hanging out in motels he's.
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Like look I'll show up but you gotta get me
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a hotel room I'll be mostly in a hotel can
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you just write the movie in a.
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Hotel yeah once I check in I am not.
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Leaving I'm not leaving I'll be lucky to not show
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up in PJ's because I am settling into this hotel
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trying to figure out what that.
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One was and you know I feel like John Cusack
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earned that right Yeah, at this point.
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He's entertained us all enough.
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He's logged in a lot of movies, so I'll give
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him that.
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I can't remember who else was in it. I just
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know Ray Liotta.
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Identity? Yes. I remember, again, I remember watching the trailer
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for that one thinking it looked like a really cool concept,
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and the execution is kind of a
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it was right at that era of twist, and it
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needed to... according to them, needed a twist to make
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it work. Whereas, again, the first half is set up
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kind of smart and could have just been about that,
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and instead they had to work in a weird twist element. So, yeah,
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Amanda Peete, John Hawks, I think I forgot he.
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Was in it.
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Clea Duvall, all right. Jake Busey, hey, this is... Rebecca DeMornay,
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this is, yeah, we got all kinds of people.
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It does have everybody.
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It does, yeah. So... If they delivered on all of
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that promise, you'd have El Royale. El Royale is worth watching.
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I was very pleased. I'm glad to hear.
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It looked good, but I was like, oh.
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Again, visually. Cinematography. They spent so much time on the
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visuals making everything look perfect. It's pretty impressive.
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Am I next? netflix has some good horror movies they
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also have some bad.
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Ones we're just adding to our horror club list yeah
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this is usually where the suggestions have come so far
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as you're just like but i saw this it's on
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netflix let's watch it and i'm like okay.
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Calm down so i watched Green Room on Netflix.
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That's a great movie.
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It was awesome.
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I have been wanting to see that.
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I love it. I think you more than anyone I
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know would appreciate this because you know the premise.
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Right. What I've been told about it, it's like that
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is right up my alley.
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It is, yeah.
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I mean, anybody that's been in a band and played
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crap shows, this is– You show up and you have
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no idea where you're going or what kind of place
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it's going to be or what the crowd's going to
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be like and how many times has that happened? So
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that's every show.
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You're ever at.
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Yeah. So, yeah, this is exactly, yeah, it's that gone
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the most wrong a thing can go.
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But it's like really fun.
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I mean, despite being like super violent.
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Because somebody told me about it and I was like,
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that just sounds like a nightmare.
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And they're like, well, yeah, it is a nightmare.
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It is, honestly. But an awesome nightmare.
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Yeah, like it's great. It has like really funny moments
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in it.
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Yeah, surprisingly.
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All the cast is amazing. Patrick Stewart is the owner
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of a neo-Nazi club.
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I feel like eventually we'll all come to terms with
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like just how epically amazing. Like I think we just
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wrote on like, you know, Star Trek, whatever. And then like, yeah, yeah,
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he's Professor X. But I'm like- The other stuff he does. Like,
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he is so good all around. I mean, not that
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he hasn't been around Excalibur. I mean, he's been doing
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this forever. But, like, yeah, he is just so amazing. Like,
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to watch him do this kind of performance is like....
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Man, I love Patrick Stewart.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I love that he didn't even, like, change his
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voice at all. Like, you'd think if you're playing this, like,
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neo-Nazi club owner in, like, rural Oregon that you might...
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Not have the Patrick Stewart voice, but he's just, just
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Patrick Stewart.
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That's what I said, though. I'm like, well, but nobody,
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you never know what a neo-Nazi is going to look
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like now. So, like, the other yokel Americans didn't change their,
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that seems fitting, but I'm like, you kind of don't know.
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The world we live in, you don't know who these
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people are that you're around all day long. So, I
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kind of like that it's just like, you never know
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who falls in this category. And who's going to be
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your worst nightmare. Yeah.
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It was so fun though and the special effects are
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like it's.
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Bad horribly awesome some really bad.
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Stuff happens but yeah it just feels kind of like
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a crazy fever dream punk rock like That movie.
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I thought, was just terrifying. Like, I think it was
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scarier than any movie I've seen in, like, the last
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10 years. Just seeing that in the theater, like, I
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guess you could.
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It's technically sort of a horror premise, but it's also.
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It's just realistic enough to be.
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It's real world, I think, is why it's so horrifying.
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Because all of this, like, it doesn't get supernatural. Like,
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all of these things could really be happening to someone
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right now. Maybe you. Depending on where you end up, so... Yeah,
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I think it's the reality of it that makes it
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so horrifying. And I really like Imogene Poots. Some of
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it's just because I like saying Imogene Poots.
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How can you not?
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I don't think I... It was halfway in before I'm like,
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oh wait, she's so drastically different looking. Yep, Imogene Poots.
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So grungy.
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I can't watch anything while we're on that universe kick,
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but anything with Anton Yelchin... It's just depressing, really. Like,
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he's so talented, you know? It's like we all got
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robbed on that one. Like, stupid car manufacturers.
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Poor guy.
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But yeah, I mean, he had like 12 things that
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he'd already finished that kept coming out after he died.
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in this too. Like, I mean, I guess it was
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good that we got all those extra things after he
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was already gone. But yeah, it just kind of hammers
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it home that like, man, how talented... He was, and
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what we could have had had he lived to be
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an old man, like.
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Yep.
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R.I.P.
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He's more than just a weird Russian guy flying in
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a spaceship. It's
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That's still a pretty good thing to be, though. Yeah,
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but he's barely in those. It's funny, that's still the
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thing he's known most for, but I don't know. I mean,
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that last one... He really is barely in. They had
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to be like tribute to him at the end of
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the credits, but I'm like, he's got like 10 minutes
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accumulative in the whole movie. Like he's just so not
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one of the leads in that series. So it's funny
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that he got as big as he did for being
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in that, I guess just because it's so high profile,
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but still. Yeah, that's, he's got so much more to
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offer than what he gets to do when he says Wessels.
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It's adorable. Don't get me wrong.
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Uh, yeah, I saw a great, uh, French horror film
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called revenge. Um, uh, yeah, very, very basic title, but.
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I, it's honestly, I thought it was brilliant.
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It's the subject matter is, uh, is definitely based on
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kind of the, I spit on your grave, like female
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revenge tradition, which kind of like, you're like, uh, you know,
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this is going to be heavy, but it's so well, uh,
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handled and it kind of just, I don't know. It,
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it inverses a lot of like the.
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Is that inverse?
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Inverse.
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Perverts.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, sure.
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Um, But in an awesome way, it just kind of
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like changes the whole mold for that kind of genre.
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And like, I just can't, it's basically, it feels like
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there's no going back as far as like, if this
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is going to keep being like this, like really like
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intense conversation. kind of horror movie like it's gonna be
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like based on this movie from now on is this like.
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A recently made movie.
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Yeah it technically it came out in france in 2017
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but it came out here and kind.
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Of like still pretty quick for boring usually yeah and
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we're usually a couple years behind and a lot.
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Of people and i didn't know about until recently either
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but it got a small release and you can like
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uh watch it on things like on voodoo and stuff
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like that running on on streaming but it Honestly, I
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would maybe put in my top five best movies of
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last year. It's just so well made. The director, it's
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her first movie, and it's just one of those movies
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that feels like she's made a million movies before. It's
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just so well handled, and it's funny. It has a
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lot of visual.
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Humor, and.
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There's a lot of subtext going on, a lot of
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academic kind of... picking apart of like old horror tropes
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and stuff like that. And it's just, it's awesome.
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It was so good.
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Anybody that is recognizable on this side of the ocean?
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Well, it's French. I didn't recognize anyone. Everyone in it,
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most of the people are in it. It's like a
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small cast of like six people total. And most of
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them are French. The main girl I thought was American
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because she... speaks English in it with an American accent,
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but apparently, like, looking at the cast, she's an Italian model.
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I guess who can speak English very, very well.
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Interesting.
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Maybe grew up in the States or something, but half
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the movie's in French and half of it's in English. And, yeah,
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so it's like if you don't like subtitles, it's pretty,
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you know. Damn it.
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No, it's pretty accessible.
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Yeah, it's not all, you know, in French, but it's, yeah,
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it's pretty incredible.
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Nice.
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Some of the most gnarly, bloodiest, like, movie deaths I've
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seen in a while, and I know this is, like,
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kind of, like, a weird, like, sentiment, but, like, I
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always love, like, in horror movies, like, scenes that I
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just think are awesome are when, like, the
main person
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has to, like, heal themselves, and they're like, like hurting
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themselves really badly as they're healing themselves i think i'm.
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Gonna dig this yeah like that shit that shit.
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Never gets old for me i'm like oh my god
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like but it doesn't the same time it doesn't feel
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like exploitive because it's like they're they're healing themselves like
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they're getting better.
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Rambo's got to stitch up his injury yeah yeah and it's.
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Just you're like you're like you know rooting for them
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um but this i feel like has the best like
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painful like uh uh.
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I guess like.
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Self-surgical, I don't want to get too into it, scene
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that I've.
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Seen in any movie.
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But it's like, again, like it weirdly does, it's very
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violent and like makes you cringe, but it's like done
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in like a funny, kind of like a fun way,
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which again, like giving the subject material, it's like, what?
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How is it fun?
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But it's just, it was just so well like executed.
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Guys, I've decided to take my appendix out. Don't bother
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stopping the party. Just continue on.
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I'll be over here.
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Not to be too vague, but just to give a taste,
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there is a scene where the main character is in
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a cave and she's by this campfire and she has
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an open wound on her torso. She's bleeding out and
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she has to basically cauterize herself with a rolled out
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beer can that she flattens and holds over the fire.
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And, okay, so here's why the movie's awesome.
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Like, she cauterizes herself and, like, passes out and wakes
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up the next morning. And, like, because the beer can
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has this, like, eagle, like, emblem on it of this, like,
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badass eagle, she now has this, eagle branded.
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Tattoo where her wound was.
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She gets up and goes on her way to seek revenge.
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We're all going to start getting those.
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It's such a great moment.
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That alone makes me want to watch it.
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That is so good.
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I got to see last week on the big screen
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for the first time in my life, Labyrinth. Which was
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quite awesome. Hadn't seen that movie in probably 10 or
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15 years, and it was so much.
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Better than I remember it being.
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My one complaint, and it wasn't with the movie itself,
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it was the fact that people... would not stop cheering
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every time David Bowie walked on the screen.
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I mean, I understand, but we are still trying to
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watch a movie again.
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Well, yeah, the first time, you know, the audience exploded,
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and I was like, okay, and.
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I clapped along.
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It's David Bowie.
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It makes sense.
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But then it got to be the point where, like,
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he'd be in a scene with, like, say, Jennifer Connelly,
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and the camera would cut back and forth between one
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or the other of them. He'd go off screen, silence.
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Camera'd cut back to him.
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Cheers and applause.
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And it's like, I can't hear what he's saying.
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They're trying to have a conversation. Calm down.
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Well, the other complaint was as soon as the movie
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was over, before the credits start rolling, my wife leans
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over to me and goes, I forgot how bad the
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acting was in this movie.
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So you're not with her anymore.
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I immediately filed for divorce.
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It's a given.
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Well, she.
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She kept saying, well, I love the movie. I love
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the movie.
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I just hate the leads in this.
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And I'm like, how could you?
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People love both of those people.
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Right.
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If you want to not like anybody, that damn baby
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doesn't do anything.
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The puppets were
brilliant.
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Give them all the Oscars. That was another thing I
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want to mention.
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The puppetry in that, which, of course, Jim Henson's always great.
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Yeah.
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But it just, you know, it makes you think about
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the special effects in movies now. And it's like they're
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still so far behind. the realism and.
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I mean you watch that and you're like there is
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no green screen here right they're physically doing everything on
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screen right.
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Even there is one green scene scene with a little
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the fire.
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Guy yeah yeah but even then even then i'm sitting
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there physically doing it they're.
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Physically doing it and they're watching the characters and i'm
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like there's got to be On that character alone, there's
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got to be at least three puppeteers involved. And there's
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like five of those guys running around.
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Constantly running around.
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Yeah.
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That one became one that.
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I mean, I guess it falls into that category, especially
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at the time they came out. But it became kind
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of either or for me. And I was always so
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Dark Crystal Camp that I was like... I think because
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it's so musical... that I'm like, we don't have to
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worry about that in Dark Crystal. Like, it's just dark. Like,
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it's just weird and dark and doesn't try to be
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for kids. Like, it's just got puppets in it. That's it.
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That's all you get. Like, there's puppets.
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I think on a technical scale and the fact that
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there's really no humans in Dark Crystal.
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I think it's amazing for that.
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But as far as the actual story, for me, it
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always just kind of fell flat and was kind of boring.
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See, again, I love the Skeksis in general. our main
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dude is so annoyingly awesome and kind of seems like
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most characters in the real world. Right. He's just creepy
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and annoying and I.
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Don't know.
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I love, I love what's going on in dark crystal.
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So yeah, I always had to kind of compare and like,
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I didn't watch labyrinth. I didn't, I didn't watch labyrinth
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near as much either. So I like, I'd seen dark
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crystal billion times and I watch it a few times.
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I'm like, yeah, David Bowie's cool. But like, yeah, there's
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so much of the other stuff. I'm like, that's a
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lot of singing going on. And, I don't know. So
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I've learned to kind of appreciate it more over the years.
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But yeah, I don't know. Again, it's so much more conventional.
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I think that's the thing that always seems weird about
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Dark Crystal. You also know he didn't want it to
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have English.
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Right.
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He wanted them to speak their own language. So it
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was going to be no humans in it and no
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English the entire time. Just gibberish language and puppets for
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two hours. I'm like, Jim Henson, you crazy bastard.
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Oh, well, and the version we got is two hours
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because it ended up being like the work print was
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something like five hours or something like that.
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So, yeah, sometimes you need somebody on the studio end
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to talk you down and be like, okay, okay, I
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appreciate your artistry, but let's be realistic. So I like
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the honed down version we got, but. Yeah, sometimes I
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think about the weird stuff Henson came up with. I'm
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just like, you are a genius and a madman. Yes.
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But yeah, it's been a while, so that's another one
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of those. I feel like I should revisit.
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I saw a picture, like a behind-the-scenes picture of the
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Dark Crystal, and they were in this set that was
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basically the size of a football field. And then you
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see Jim and one of the other, it wasn't Frank Oz,
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but it was one of the other guys, And they've
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got these huge massive puppets which have all these wires
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and cables running off off screen. And it's just, I
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can't imagine. I can't begin to imagine the technical aspects
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of that movie.
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I mean, just to run one of them.
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How heavy they were.
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And then the fact that you've got so many going
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at the same time talking to each other. And then
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you're still trying to run a movie normally. So all
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the horrors of trying to have a movie work anyway
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is piled on top of the 48 people running your
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puppets right now. The fact that any of those got
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made is still kind of amazing.
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We need to bring back puppets.
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I'm working on it.
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I'm still working on my series of puppet short films.
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I need funding for those too. That's what's put it
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on the back burner.
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I bought some foam a couple weeks ago. I didn't
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get much further than that yet.
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Oh, that just made me remember. When I lived in
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New York, I went on a first date with this
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guy who was like.
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A puppet?
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Yes.
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It took me all.
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Night to figure out, wait a minute. This foamy skin,
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these ping pong ball eyes. You're a puppet, aren't you?
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The person behind you moving your lens.
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He's just my interpreter. Don't mind him. I'm not from
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your land. He has to come along with me everywhere.
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But he was like a screenwriter and so I was
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like well what are you working on and he told
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me he's doing a puppet musical of king arthur and
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the knights of the round table to which i laughed
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because i thought that it would be like a funny
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puppet musical you would think he was completely serious so.
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That ended the date right.
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It really did we didn't go out again mostly.
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Because he couldn't believe that you didn't take him seriously
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as an artist.
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A
serious puppet musical.
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I've There are a lot of serious puppeteers out there.
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It's kind of frightening.
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I was just, yeah.
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I mean, I love the whole spectrum of it, but again,
548
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I fall more towards the fun.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, there are people who take it very seriously.
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I mean, yeah, there should be a level of professionalism
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that you bring to it, but you don't need to
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take yourself that seriously as any level of artist, puppetry
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or not. As a person, don't take yourself that seriously.
555
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You can take the work seriously. That's appreciated. But some
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people take themselves very seriously. And it runs dates.
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I was just picturing, like, forgetting Sarah Marshall when he
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does the Dracula music.
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I was thinking that too.
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I was thinking that as you said it.
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The thing is, that was, that came from a real
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00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.329
thing that he was working on that was, again, not
563
00:27:51.369 --> 00:27:54.910
supposed to be a comedy. And he feels like that
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00:27:54.990 --> 00:27:57.299
was what got him the gig writing for the Muppets
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was because of that. And he's probably right.
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It now just makes me think when we did the
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall episode many years ago, I had a
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guest on and he was a comic, but he really
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liked that movie and he wanted to talk about it.
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And I had issues with it. So most of the
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way through, I was like, But again, at the end,
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I'm like, but that musical is freaking awesome. I don't
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even think it was during the show. That's kind of
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why I'm telling the story now. After we were done,
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00:28:25.380 --> 00:28:31.430
he goes... I said something about, you know, the Dracula
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puppet and whatever. And he was like, oh, well, let
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00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:35.400
me show you this. And he, like, rolled up his sleeve.
578
00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:38.920
His whole arm was done with that Dracula puppet from
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Forgetting Sarah Marshall. The Dracula Forgetting Sarah Marshall musical puppet was, like,
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00:28:44.220 --> 00:28:46.910
he has
a whole thing on his arm devoted to that.
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00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:49.170
He loved it so much. And I was like, dude,
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00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:52.150
we didn't even talk about that. What the hell? Like,
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00:28:52.190 --> 00:28:57.109
why didn't you tell me beforehand? Like, you are that committed, dude. So, yes,
584
00:28:57.329 --> 00:29:01.299
he was very cool, but extra cool after that. Devoted
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00:29:01.319 --> 00:29:04.279
your whole arm to puppet Dracula. That's freaking cool.
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00:29:04.339 --> 00:29:05.660
That is amazing, because.
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That's a movie I very quickly forgot.
588
00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:10.359
Yeah, and that was my, it's like there's things and
589
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.180
parts of it that I appreciate, but I'm like, overall,
590
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.819
it's not the greatest. You know, even as a comedy,
591
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:21.880
it's pretty light. But, yeah, the Dracula puppet on your
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arm for all eternity. I'm like, good for you, man.
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Committed it's getting kind of hard to believe things are
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going to get better i've been drowning too long to
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believe that the tide's going.
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To turn and i've been.
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Living too hard to believe things are going to get
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easier now I'm still trying to shake off the pain
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I already forgot the name of it.
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The Topher Grace movie.
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Yeah, it was the Topher Grace.
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the same title?
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No.
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So there's a.
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Yeah. I mean, really. Don't you want to be cool?
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All the cool kids are doing it.
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Okay, wait.
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very fractured little cool world that we live in. Be
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like Brad Pitt. Join. Maybe Brad Pitt will join. He's
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in a zombie movie. He might be up for this.
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Maybe Topher Grace. Come on, Topher.
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Think i included him in one of our tweets i
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think it was the one with did you see the
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thing i posted that was a picture of him pushing
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a cart full of nothing but cereal i think it
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was off of his instagram i don't know what it
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was but it was just like a cart full he's
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like a whole aisle of cereal he's got like 20
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different things in his cart and i'm just like see
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fruity pebbles that's all you need Hope for Grey's nose.
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So that was, I guess, like a thing they just
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worked into the movie.
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Maybe he really does.
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They're like, okay, this guy's obsessed with cereal.
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He might really have a cereal obsession.
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do this movie unless we buy him Fruity Pebbles. I mean,
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just go ahead and work it into the script. Whatever.
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He didn't even ask for any payment.
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Oh, man, I shot Marvin in the face.
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We are heading out to sea And however it'll be
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It ain't gonna be the same Cause no matter what
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ain't gonna see.
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We'll be searching high and low on the deck and
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clock a dish. We ain't gonna see a day. No day.
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Half a dozen clams.
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We might even see a poimade.
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But poimade's got no jams!
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No jams.
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So, one of my this past couple of weeks is,
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I guess, inspired by our recent episode we did together.
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I watched Hail Caesar, which I had not seen. It
723
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was another one of those sort of comedy Coen Brothers
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movies that I and most of the people don't pay
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that much attention to. But I'd seen the trailer. I
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was like, that looks, you know, fun. And I like
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the subject matter. Anything that's a movie making fun of
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movies is kind of awesome. So, It's pretty impressive. Once again,
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it's as committed as the Coen brothers always are to everything.
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It's that only mixed with their love of filmmaking and
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at the same time completely satirizing it. So everything they're doing,
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it's just set in, I think, early 40s-esque kind of
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time period. Or no, I
think it's 50s. I think
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it's just at the point of everything starting to kind
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of change in the system. but you're coming off of
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old school, like 40s, big studio stuff. So you're coming
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out and we get almost moments of all these different
738
00:37:12.610 --> 00:37:15.639
genres that are still kind of going on too, because
739
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.300
we get a full on Western scene with what is
740
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.400
the Alden, the new Han Solo, which I'd heard that
741
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.110
he was in that. But again, I hadn't seen it.
742
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.699
He's really fucking likable. Like if you haven't, if you
743
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.940
didn't buy him in his new Han Solo world, like,
744
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:35.980
it's hard to not love this guy in this movie
745
00:37:36.019 --> 00:37:38.900
because he's so earnest and he is just like a
746
00:37:39.699 --> 00:37:42.300
full on cowboy. Like he grew up coming out of
747
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.989
the rodeos and like, they were like, Oh, we want
748
00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:46.969
to make a movie. So they make all these Westerns
749
00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:49.989
with him and they like, he's just doing trick shots
750
00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:52.250
and like flipping off the horse. And like, he's just,
751
00:37:52.409 --> 00:37:55.150
he is committed to that, but that's what he does.
752
00:37:55.389 --> 00:37:58.550
And it's funny that he's like, he's going, he's like, Oh,
753
00:37:58.570 --> 00:37:59.670
if we're going to take a break, I'm gonna go
754
00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:03.059
get some beans. Like, Even during hitting the mess tent,
755
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.280
you know, he's still having beans. So, like, he's that
756
00:38:05.860 --> 00:38:09.179
cowboy mode in his mind. So it's really funny that, like,
757
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.079
one of the studio guys comes over. He's like, well, okay,
758
00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:14.579
we're done with this one. And Monday we want you
759
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.039
to head over here to this. He's like, oh, what for? Well,
760
00:38:17.059 --> 00:38:19.969
the studio is changing your image. So you see there's
761
00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:25.949
this almost, like, this super, like, people with accents sitting
762
00:38:26.030 --> 00:38:29.670
on sofas and talking kind of fancy stuff. And they're
763
00:38:29.690 --> 00:38:31.309
trying to shove him in and he shows up in
764
00:38:31.349 --> 00:38:34.130
a tux and just feels weird and he walks in
765
00:38:34.190 --> 00:38:39.360
and he can't even deliver the lines. That scene is great. Yeah,
766
00:38:39.380 --> 00:38:42.079
he's amazing in this. It may have been my favorite
767
00:38:42.219 --> 00:38:44.300
through line of all of it was just watching him
768
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.420
do his thing because damn
he is likable in that movie.
769
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:52.989
But if anything's carried it like Josh Brolin. Obviously we've
770
00:38:53.090 --> 00:38:55.349
all kind of come to terms with how amazing Josh
771
00:38:55.369 --> 00:38:59.280
Brolin is in the last 15 years but Man, this
772
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:03.429
movie is just all him. It is following him around,
773
00:39:03.530 --> 00:39:08.849
going through all this craziness, but damn, he's good. He's
774
00:39:08.889 --> 00:39:12.369
just so solid, especially to be this kind of a
775
00:39:12.389 --> 00:39:15.780
hard-ass that he is. He gets to be that Josh
776
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.659
Brolin that, again, he's played a lot in these last
777
00:39:17.659 --> 00:39:21.960
15 years. So, yeah, watching him go through this old
778
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:26.360
Hollywood version of everything is pretty damned entertaining. And all
779
00:39:26.420 --> 00:39:30.239
our weird little cameos. Again, like I didn't want to
780
00:39:30.260 --> 00:39:33.539
like Channing Tatum for so long but he's such a
781
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:36.570
dork like and he really seems committed to all these
782
00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:42.050
things like completely doing a like sound of music singing
783
00:39:42.070 --> 00:39:44.809
in the rain level of like dancing like it is
784
00:39:44.969 --> 00:39:48.159
it is full on Fred Astaire like Danny Kaye like
785
00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:51.420
His musical scene is amazing, and we all know he's
786
00:39:51.460 --> 00:39:53.900
a dancer, but usually it's taking his clothes off. So
787
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.420
the fact that this is really impressively well choreographed, and
788
00:39:59.179 --> 00:40:05.469
it's Janie Tatum being a dork. We get Scarlett Johansson
789
00:40:05.510 --> 00:40:09.070
doing the water... Bubsy.
790
00:40:08.769 --> 00:40:09.369
Berkeley kind of thing.
791
00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:13.820
Yeah, basically the huge water production number thing. Dressed as
792
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.000
a mermaid, of course. Yeah, there's so many weird little
793
00:40:17.099 --> 00:40:20.079
aspects that come into it that, like, I have to
794
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.510
love it, but it's weird that it's also its own
795
00:40:22.530 --> 00:40:25.230
movie outside of these little things they would cut away to.
796
00:40:25.250 --> 00:40:27.730
And you'd spend five minutes going, wait, we're just watching
797
00:40:27.750 --> 00:40:31.070
this whole scene of this now. So, again, you can
798
00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:33.690
tell how much the Coen brothers still love old Hollywood
799
00:40:33.809 --> 00:40:36.179
and yet are completely committed to making fun of it.
800
00:40:36.730 --> 00:40:42.250
Because all of these characters are based pretty, like... pretty
801
00:40:42.349 --> 00:40:44.570
directly on other people that you can be like, Oh,
802
00:40:44.590 --> 00:40:48.889
this is obviously the version of this person. So it's, yeah,
803
00:40:49.030
--> 00:40:52.340
it's a lot of fun for those reasons. Again, it's
804
00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:55.300
back to what I said on, on our Coen brothers discussion.
805
00:40:55.900 --> 00:40:59.980
I can really see why normal people wouldn't care about Coen.
806
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.219
But like, they're so specific in particular that I'm like,
807
00:41:03.659 --> 00:41:06.730
if you get their level of like love for old Hollywood,
808
00:41:06.789 --> 00:41:09.010
you don't think this is great. Normal people would just
809
00:41:09.050 --> 00:41:12.010
be like, well, are we watching all this for like
810
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.719
it is another one of those like you're watching and
811
00:41:14.739 --> 00:41:17.920
like sort of it's that same thing of like there's
812
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.599
a plot going on but it's kind of not so
813
00:41:20.659 --> 00:41:23.340
consequential by the time you get to the end like
814
00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:26.179
the story with Josh and his journey it's really the
815
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.519
only thing that matters like all this other bullshit going
816
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:32.039
on is just like there's weird communist subplots and like
817
00:41:32.099 --> 00:41:34.380
all this other shit kind of going on at the
818
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.340
same time but by the end you're like yeah none
819
00:41:36.380 --> 00:41:38.619
of that was supposed to matter like it's all just
820
00:41:38.659 --> 00:41:41.590
kind of watching this one character kind of his, his
821
00:41:41.630 --> 00:41:44.550
little arc of like how much he's committed to the
822
00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:47.230
studio system and how much his life is about all
823
00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:51.539
of this craziness. So, yep. I, I love it. But again, you, you,
824
00:41:51.579 --> 00:41:53.559
I think you have to be a Coen brothers person
825
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.400
or just love at least old Hollywood to, to really
826
00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:59.280
appreciate it. Otherwise you'll just be confused.
827
00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:04.889
Well, mine is also Coen brothers related.
828
00:42:04.909 --> 00:42:05.489
All right.
829
00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:09.949
Um, I watched another day, another time. It's basically like
830
00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:14.570
a live concert that all of the music is either
831
00:42:14.610 --> 00:42:17.809
directly from or inspired by Inside Llewyn Davis. So it's
832
00:42:17.849 --> 00:42:21.949
all these like 1960s folk kind of songs. I mean,
833
00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:28.829
it's like Punch Brothers, Milk Carton Kids, Joan Baez, the
834
00:42:28.909 --> 00:42:32.940
Avett Brothers. Just like all these really good folksy people.
835
00:42:33.059 --> 00:42:35.400
Oscar Isaac comes out and sings and plays the guitar.
836
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:36.380
I would hope so, sure.
837
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.760
He's amazing. I didn't know.
838
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.719
So is this like theatrically released or did they just
839
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:43.559
put it out?
840
00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:48.710
I don't know. I don't think it was theatrically released.
841
00:42:48.789 --> 00:42:50.349
We just found it on Amazon.
842
00:42:51.050 --> 00:42:51.690
Interesting.
843
00:42:51.789 --> 00:42:54.590
But I guess it's like a companion piece to the
844
00:42:54.630 --> 00:42:57.449
movie somehow. But the music is all really great and
845
00:42:58.030 --> 00:43:01.539
everybody's so talented and it like cuts... back and forth from, like,
846
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.360
live on the stage where they're doing an actual concert
847
00:43:04.449 --> 00:43:07.429
for a bunch of people to, like, in the studio
848
00:43:07.469 --> 00:43:10.710
with T-Bone Burnett and, like, they're rehearsing and everything. It's
849
00:43:10.789 --> 00:43:14.170
really cool and, like, very seamless the way that they
850
00:43:14.210 --> 00:43:16.929
kind of incorporate it all together. And the music is
851
00:43:16.969 --> 00:43:18.869
just gorgeous and awesome.
852
00:43:19.250 --> 00:43:21.920
I mean, they do put so much work into each
853
00:43:21.980 --> 00:43:24.860
of these little areas that they tackle. So, like, yeah,
854
00:43:25.019 --> 00:43:26.920
that was kind of that same thing with Llewyn Davis.
855
00:43:26.980 --> 00:43:30.809
It was like, they'd dove headfirst into that music scene
856
00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:34.530
of that era and that specific subgenre of music. And like,
857
00:43:35.130 --> 00:43:38.309
it's super, again, it's that same thing. It's true to
858
00:43:38.329 --> 00:43:41.139
the time, but they made up a character. So it's like,
859
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.039
it's very similar to other people of the time. And,
860
00:43:44.539 --> 00:43:47.420
but yeah, it's, it's so authentic in the way they
861
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.340
approach everything.
862
00:43:48.900 --> 00:43:51.960
Yeah. It's super cool. So if you liked that movie
863
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.769
and the music in it, you should watch another day,
864
00:43:55.849 --> 00:43:57.570
another time on Amazon.
865
00:43:59.510 --> 00:44:00.570
Good to know it's out there.
866
00:44:04.030 --> 00:44:06.670
Um well honestly um.
867
00:44:08.269 --> 00:44:12.010
I've watched that one movie um and just a lot
868
00:44:12.050 --> 00:44:14.730
of schitt's creek so that's why that's the one movie
869
00:44:14.809 --> 00:44:19.289
outside of movies it's just been like shows i've.
870
00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:22.369
Heard a good amount about schitt's creek so what is
871
00:44:22.409 --> 00:44:25.320
your take on it um still i just i just
872
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.880
don't have time to delve into new shows.
873
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.579
We kind of love it like it's it's pretty amazing
874
00:44:30.980 --> 00:44:33.380
um especially if you're a fan of like the christopher
875
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:37.159
guest like yeah catherine harold eugene levy movies because they're
876
00:44:37.199
--> 00:44:40.760
both kind of in that mode catherine harris definitely like
877
00:44:40.780 --> 00:44:43.539
the mvp of the show like she's the reason to.
878
00:44:43.429 --> 00:44:46.429
Watch everything she's in really um.
879
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:48.880
I feel like the show has shifted.
880
00:44:49.340 --> 00:44:53.420
The first couple seasons were mostly focused on the parents,
881
00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:55.360
but now it's shifted towards the kids, which I think
882
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.409
was a brilliant idea. And Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara
883
00:45:00.429 --> 00:45:04.989
have become more like supporting characters. But I think that
884
00:45:05.030 --> 00:45:07.590
was a smart move on their part.
885
00:45:08.289 --> 00:45:08.789
I do, too.
886
00:45:08.909 --> 00:45:13.920
And it's great because it kind of evolves. It doesn't
887
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.699
stay in one kind of mode. Each season, they're branching
888
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.099
out and trying to maybe be a little bit more
889
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.139
serious or sincere with the storyline. But at the same time,
890
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.530
we're a comedy, so we're still going to give you
891
00:45:26.550 --> 00:45:31.329
the laughs. For example, the first season, Eugene Levy's character
892
00:45:31.389 --> 00:45:36.489
is totally just almost... just like entirely just like played
893
00:45:36.530 --> 00:45:38.570
for joe like he's great he's like but he's just
894
00:45:38.610 --> 00:45:41.550
like kind of this dopey like the typical you know
895
00:45:41.650 --> 00:45:43.690
levy character that you're used to seeing in those movies
896
00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:45.969
but like after a while he kind of becomes like
897
00:45:46.010 --> 00:45:49.389
the straight man like kind of it's just it's really
898
00:45:49.510 --> 00:45:51.820
interesting to see eugene levy as like a normal like
899
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.480
person like and like like being dramatic scenes which you
900
00:45:57.500 --> 00:45:59.699
get to see him in later seasons like all the
901
00:45:59.739 --> 00:46:03.199
cast kind of have their own, like, really interesting arcs
902
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:03.840
going on.
903
00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:07.670
And, yeah, like, the kids, too. Like, Eugene Levy's son
904
00:46:07.730 --> 00:46:09.769
plays his son on the show. And his daughter.
905
00:46:09.949 --> 00:46:11.489
And his daughter, yeah, is in.
906
00:46:11.489 --> 00:46:11.719
It, too.
907
00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:12.050
Oh, really?
908
00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:13.489
And you can tell by the eyebrows.
909
00:46:14.190 --> 00:46:15.090
Yeah.
910
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.119
These poor children.
911
00:46:16.300 --> 00:46:19.360
Yeah. And it's his show. Like, he's the showrunner.
912
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.940
And he's, like, his character, his name's... So much.
913
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:26.050
David. His name's David. And, like.
914
00:46:27.420 --> 00:46:31.159
Everyone says his sister is constantly saying his name in
915
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.389
this weirdly effective... And his mom, they have this weird
916
00:46:34.469 --> 00:46:40.210
way of talking. Yeah, there's a lot of speech comedy
917
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:45.570
in the show. It's so funny because there's a little
918
00:46:45.590 --> 00:46:49.429
bit of Canadian accent, but also Catherine Harris' character puts
919
00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:54.369
on this totally made up... weird like transatlantic thing that
920
00:46:54.409 --> 00:46:57.369
doesn't really make sense but is hilarious like.
921
00:46:57.070 --> 00:46:59.829
She's genius she really is she is a genius like
922
00:46:59.909 --> 00:47:03.949
honestly she is if this is like prime Catherine O'Hara
923
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.800
like the best like stuff that like she has done
924
00:47:08.940 --> 00:47:10.719
since like Waiting for Guffman like.
925
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.679
We we're constantly like We watched it on Netflix. We're
926
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.429
constantly having to hit the 10 seconds rewind thing because
927
00:47:18.469 --> 00:47:19.969
we're laughing so hard.
928
00:47:20.110 --> 00:47:21.110
And we'll miss a lot.
929
00:47:21.150 --> 00:47:24.369
You'll miss the next joke that's just as funny. So
930
00:47:24.550 --> 00:47:25.650
that's always a good sign.
931
00:47:25.750 --> 00:47:27.829
Good Lord.
932
00:47:28.230 --> 00:47:29.750
How many seasons are there of it now?
933
00:47:29.849 --> 00:47:30.809
I think there's five.
934
00:47:30.869 --> 00:47:32.070
It just started its fifth one.
935
00:47:32.090 --> 00:47:32.250
Oh, dang.
936
00:47:32.369 --> 00:47:35.150
And we're still wrapping up the third one. So we
937
00:47:35.190 --> 00:47:38.489
haven't even gotten up to the current.
938
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:41.559
There's some good stuff in the fourth season.
939
00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:43.280
Yeah, they say it just gets better and better.
940
00:47:43.300 --> 00:47:43.860
It does.
941
00:47:44.340 --> 00:47:47.239
It took a good turn, but it takes a turn
942
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.960
as far as the sort of humor they deal with.
943
00:47:52.139 --> 00:47:54.579
I mean, it's subtle, but.
944
00:47:54.530 --> 00:47:57.250
If you've been following along, you'll look back on it
945
00:47:57.269 --> 00:48:00.710
and go, wait a minute. This is not the goofy,
946
00:48:01.309 --> 00:48:02.769
silly show that it once was.
947
00:48:04.190 --> 00:48:04.730
It's got some.
948
00:48:05.889 --> 00:48:08.550
It's got some gravitas, for lack of a better word,
949
00:48:08.590 --> 00:48:08.900
to it.
950
00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:10.440
Yeah.
951
00:48:11.059 --> 00:48:16.539
It's not like The Office where they're not planning out
952
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:21.179
things ahead. The creator, Dan Levy, has said that this
953
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.690
is a finite thing I'm doing. The next season is
954
00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:25.110
probably going to be the
last. We have it all
955
00:48:25.150 --> 00:48:29.809
planned out. Where a lot of sitcoms is just... Which
956
00:48:29.889 --> 00:48:32.119
is fine with The Office, but it's mostly just jokes and.
957
00:48:33.809 --> 00:48:37.650
Everything and no character really goes any place, you know,
958
00:48:37.730 --> 00:48:39.969
or has an arc, which isn't, you don't necessarily need
959
00:48:40.010 --> 00:48:41.969
that with like a comedy show, but.
960
00:48:41.900 --> 00:48:45.920
Here they like, it's just such a, well, it's such
961
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:46.199
a good.
962
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.079
Like blending of just like, uh, characters revolving and, you know,
963
00:48:51.179 --> 00:48:55.670
still having ridiculous, you know, laugh out loud moments to, uh.
964
00:48:56.269 --> 00:48:58.969
And chris elliott stops by oh yeah chris elliott's great
965
00:48:59.050 --> 00:49:01.750
i forgot you're wrong but that's the thing that's why
966
00:49:01.769 --> 00:49:03.739
i started watching because when i saw his name in
967
00:49:03.780 --> 00:49:05.320
the credits i was like well i gotta check this
968
00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:08.159
out yeah and then he's he's only in it a
969
00:49:08.219 --> 00:49:10.960
little bit and you kind of forget that he's a
970
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.199
character on the show but then when he shows up
971
00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:14.360
it's like oh yeah.
972
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:14.690
He's great at this.
973
00:49:14.710 --> 00:49:18.880
It's like a master of just being passive-aggressive to Eugene
974
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.719
Levy's character, which is their scenes together are always the best.
975
00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:28.079
It is weird when something gets a chance to grow
976
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.829
into something else. Usually, especially with shows, you get a
977
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very specific tone and they either have a grand design
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and want to do more or they just sort of stay,
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especially with old school sitcoms, like you got exactly what
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00:49:42.730 --> 00:49:44.949
you started with. It does not take it beyond for
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nine or 10 years. Doesn't change the banter, the pattern,
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everything is still just kind of hitting the same notes
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as it did the first one, which at least, you know,
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00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.079
consistency is good for some things. But at the same time,
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if you get some of these shows now that are
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on a different network or a different way that they
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don't have so many other people involved, you get to
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see a little more artistry and like you get to
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see them kind of grow and become something different, and
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00:50:11.869 --> 00:50:16.050
that's pretty amazing, especially with a comedy that has the
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00:50:16.489 --> 00:50:19.389
chance to do something like that. That's cool.
992
00:50:20.230 --> 00:50:20.929
Yeah, great show.
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Please watch.
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00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.679
So, I just started this last night, but I started
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00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:33.400
the new Natasha Lyonne show, Russian Dolls, on Netflix.
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I think I saw it listed and don't know much
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else about it.
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I can't really... I don't know what my take is
999
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.420
on it yet. It's an odd show, which is okay.
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00:50:45.539 --> 00:50:48.719
But it's basically running off the same premise sort of
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00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:54.699
as Groundhog Day. Except in this one, she dies. Her
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00:50:54.739 --> 00:50:59.070
character dies. She leaves a party, gets killed. And then
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as soon as she gets killed, she's back at the
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party again. And trying to figure out, okay, am I
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00:51:03.849 --> 00:51:05.030
just really high?
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00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:08.380
That's been the premise of a couple of movies now
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in this last year.
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She plays such an unlikable person. I think that's the point,
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that you're not supposed to like this, but then you
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00:51:16.230 --> 00:51:21.750
start to kind of like her a little. And at
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00:51:21.789 --> 00:51:24.090
the same time, after the second or third episode, I
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00:51:24.090 --> 00:51:27.260
was like, I'm tired of all this. resetting and going
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00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.000
back through it but i kind of want to see
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00:51:30.139 --> 00:51:31.159
where it's gonna.
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00:51:30.940 --> 00:51:34.940
Go it's asking a lot on a series you know
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it's like within the context of a movie because like
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00:51:37.659 --> 00:51:41.050
i said that it almost exactly sounds like happy death
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00:51:41.070 --> 00:51:46.489
day which is fun like for me extremely fun because
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i like that premise and i like the horror angle
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that they throw in there But it's that same thing
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00:51:52.099 --> 00:51:56.539
of it starts as, yeah, like a terrible character. And
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00:51:56.619 --> 00:51:59.420
because of the resetting, you watch them kind of change
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and become somebody different, which again is the Groundhog Day idea.
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00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:08.329
But it's trying to stretch it out over a series
1025
00:52:08.389 --> 00:52:12.030
seems like a lot to deal with from both ends,
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like from their angle, but even maybe more so for
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the
audience to have to commit to coming back to
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00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:22.130
that same scenario again. And investing that much time into
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00:52:22.329 --> 00:52:25.610
slowly watching this person maybe change.
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00:52:25.969 --> 00:52:27.840
Well, and a lot of the things, too, with this,
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00:52:27.949 --> 00:52:30.780
when she goes back and relives something, a lot of
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00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:34.699
the details in the background will change. Just like set decorations, costumes,
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00:52:34.780 --> 00:52:38.679
even people's makeup. And it took me a while to
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00:52:38.739 --> 00:52:42.489
kind of notice that pattern. So I get the feeling
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00:52:42.510 --> 00:52:46.190
that by the time they reach whatever conclusion they're trying
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00:52:46.230 --> 00:52:50.159
to reach, there's going to be all these... like hidden
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00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:53.219
things that you were supposed to have caught and maybe didn't.
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00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:54.619
I don't know.
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00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:56.440
I'm going to keep, I'm going to keep watching it.
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For a little while and see where it goes, but,
1041
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:02.980
but it's nice to see her in anything.
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00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:06.219
So that's the thing. I do really like her in general.
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00:53:06.340 --> 00:53:08.980
So it, it was one of those, like when she
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00:53:09.380 --> 00:53:11.460
first hit and she was still really young, it did
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00:53:11.539 --> 00:53:13.599
seem like, okay, this is going to be like one
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00:53:13.619 --> 00:53:16.730
of the next big actresses. And like, She's turned up
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00:53:16.769 --> 00:53:18.769
in stuff over the years, but she never kind of
1048
00:53:18.829 --> 00:53:21.969
hit that level. I don't know what exactly it was,
1049
00:53:22.070 --> 00:53:25.300
but yeah, she never broke through in a way that
1050
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.059
maybe they were planning. Probably not as much as she
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00:53:29.099 --> 00:53:29.599
would have liked.
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00:53:29.780 --> 00:53:32.219
And she keeps showing up in really big projects.
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00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:32.579
Yeah.
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00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:35.780
I figured when she was in Oranges in the New Black,
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00:53:36.139 --> 00:53:38.440
that the next thing we were going to see from
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00:53:38.489 --> 00:53:40.909
her was going to be something huge.
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00:53:42.070 --> 00:53:46.090
She'd get her own show. Even then, it's got to
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00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.809
be weird. She is a peculiar character. I think she
1059
00:53:50.829 --> 00:53:54.690
would have to grow on you in any capacity. She's
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00:53:54.730 --> 00:53:59.250
a strange performer. I can see it being hard to
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00:53:59.409 --> 00:54:03.880
fit her into a running theme, a bigger show kind
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00:54:03.909 --> 00:54:06.820
of a concept. That's a challenge.
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Alright.
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I think that That rounds out our discussion. We can
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at least give them a hint. We can tell the
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00:54:19.329 --> 00:54:24.460
cool kids to get out their decoder rings. Okay, kids,
1067
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.739
get out your decoder pins. Because our upcoming episode, we
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00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:28.739
are going to be discussing, and this is, again, only
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00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:29.099
for the.
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00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.579
Really cool kids because this is a.
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00:54:30.539 --> 00:54:45.159
Horror episode, club exclusive so if you're cool and you've
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00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.639
gone to patreon and joined up you can listen to
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00:54:47.699 --> 00:54:51.679
us discuss the autopsy of jane doe which i think
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00:54:52.300 --> 00:54:54.000
we all are going to have a lot of things
1075
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.630
to say about so yeah get on board join right
1076
00:54:59.670 --> 00:55:02.530
now and you can partake in that and all of
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00:55:02.630 --> 00:55:06.769
our other ridiculous discussions about horror What is the minimum again?
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00:55:07.130 --> 00:55:07.610
Two bucks.
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Two dollars.
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00:55:08.309 --> 00:55:09.070
Two dollars.
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Two dollars.
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That's all you need to listen to the episodes. So,
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00:55:12.789 --> 00:55:15.389
I mean, it kind of keeps us alive. I was
1084
00:55:15.449 --> 00:55:19.840
discussing the horrible situation it's been to try to keep
1085
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:24.139
things going earlier to these poor bastards. Like, yeah, it's
1086
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.579
not just like, hey, I'm rich and I want your
1087
00:55:26.619 --> 00:55:29.840
money anyway. It really does keep the show going to
1088
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:33.480
the level that people don't realize. It's kind of the
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00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:35.800
only way it's survived this last year and a half
1090
00:55:35.860 --> 00:55:38.050
or so since we started this.
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00:55:38.949 --> 00:55:39.199
Yeah.
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00:55:39.650 --> 00:55:43.389
So, it is not only greatly appreciated, but it gives
1093
00:55:43.489 --> 00:55:45.969
us kind of a good way to come up with
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00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:49.250
something specific to put out there just for these people
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00:55:49.309 --> 00:55:51.929
that we know actually care enough to kick in.
1096
00:55:51.989 --> 00:55:53.670
Yeah, you get a lot of great stuff for that $ 2.
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That's what I'm saying. I like being able to craft
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00:55:56.469 --> 00:55:59.170
something for a very special group. So, you guys are
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super cool, and then you get these awesome episodes. So,
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One more reason. Go join up now.
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All right.
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00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.260
Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
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Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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Bye, everybody.
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It's getting kind of hard to believe things are going
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to get better. I've been drowning too long to believe
1107
00:56:35.409 --> 00:56:42.119
that the tide's going to turn And I've been living
1108
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:47.820
too hard to believe things are going to get easier
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00:56:48.139 --> 00:56:54.480
now I'm still trying to shake off the pain from
1110
00:56:54.519 --> 00:57:05.710
the lessons I've learned Now I see things are going
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00:57:08.949 --> 00:57:12.150
to be brighter Oh, and feeling you here now I
1112
00:57:12.210 --> 00:57:20.429
know I might make it through Oh, loving you this
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00:57:20.670 --> 00:57:22.250
long has made.
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Me believe.
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And with you.
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00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:33.599
These dreams I've gotten might somehow come.
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True And knowing your grace this well just makes me
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want to be better © transcript Emily Beynon.
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I was dreaming Oh, and when I hold your hand
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I watch time disappear.
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00:58:46.889 --> 00:58:47.460
Into the air.
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Total genius, and intentionally botched a ton of surgeries.
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00:59:45.949 --> 00:59:46.429
Oh, jeez.
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It's so fucked up.
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00:59:48.269 --> 00:59:48.730
Oh, my God.
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00:59:48.750 --> 00:59:49.289
Why?
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It's so crazy.
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00:59:50.309 --> 00:59:52.050
He gets his own podcast.
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00:59:52.269 --> 00:59:55.550
He's like, yeah, I think he ended up getting sent
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00:59:55.590 --> 00:59:56.809
to prison. Yeah, what?
1131
00:59:56.829 --> 00:59:57.510
Before doing.
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00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:01.219
I bet he'd have pretty cheap rates. I might be
1133
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:02.360
able to go with him. Yeah.
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01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:05.099
I think he got into like pain pills and stuff
1135
01:00:05.179 --> 01:00:07.480
and just like had vodka under his desk and was
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01:00:07.500 --> 01:00:08.440
like constantly.
1137
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.280
But again, was he purposefully doing it as though he
1138
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:14.250
was just murdering people or he was just a slack
1139
01:00:14.409 --> 01:00:18.409
ass and was drunken on drugs and just accidentally kind of, oops,
1140
01:00:18.469 --> 01:00:21.789
killed a bunch of people. Like which mode was he in?
1141
01:00:22.179 --> 01:00:24.329
They talk about when he was in med school, he
1142
01:00:24.369 --> 01:00:27.170
was at the top of his class and this total genius,
1143
01:00:27.250 --> 01:00:30.429
and he invented some new sort of technology.
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01:00:30.710 --> 01:00:32.550
I invented the scalpel.
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01:00:32.610 --> 01:00:36.139
Patented and all this stuff. But yeah, one of his
1146
01:00:36.179 --> 01:00:38.659
first surgeries was on his best friend, which is a
1147
01:00:38.699 --> 01:00:39.420
horrible idea.
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01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:42.119
This is like dead ringers or something.
1149
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:44.099
So bad. Have an evil twin.
1150
01:00:44.940 --> 01:00:47.239
He ended up paralyzing him from the neck down.
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01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:49.420
Fun.
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01:00:49.579 --> 01:00:51.570
Fun for everyone.
1153
01:00:51.889 --> 01:00:53.590
A nightmare world.
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01:00:54.469 --> 01:00:54.769
Yeah.
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01:00:55.030 --> 01:00:57.849
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01:00:57.889 --> 01:01:01.170
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01:01:01.190 --> 01:01:03.949
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01:01:03.969 --> 01:01:06.659
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01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:07.659
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