Fuld transskription af DAVID NAIL: Flowers

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now you get their attention a. 00:07:19 Speaker 1: Little bit all of a sudden, Dad's got cred. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: And I did it many many moons ago. I think it was the first tour that she played, her first headlined, her first. 00:07:34 Speaker 2: Stadium as a baseball stadium. 00:07:36 Speaker 3: But I did ten shows with tennis with and so my girls think that Dad's really cool. 00:07:43 Speaker 2: I saved my dressing. 00:07:44 Speaker 3: Room sign and she signed it, and. 00:07:47 Speaker 2: I had completely forgotten all about it. My mom, sorry now my mom. 00:07:51 Speaker 3: My wife found it and showed it to him, and my oldest daughter freaked out. 00:07:57 Speaker 2: She's like, now I want to take this to the show and tell tomorrow. I want like, how about we take a picture of this and you can take the picture. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about your wife, your journey. You are very transparent and open about your mental health journey and bringing awareness to that. But through it all you've managed to stay married, unlike some of us on our mental health journey. Can we talk about that for just a minute. 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: It was It's funny because I feel like I met my wife and I just released my first single. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: I'm about to Come Alive in. 00:08:44 Speaker 3: I think it was on the radio for maybe three weeks, so not exactly the start that I've wanted. But you know, I remember so trying to educate her on the business and sort of what she could expect. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: I've never hum and all these things. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: All the while we're moving very quickly, you know, with thein two months, we were living together, engaged, within six months married, and I gets fourteen months from the day we met. 00:09:14 Speaker 2: So we were on the fast track, to say the least. And I didn't know I'd never been through it, you know, so I didn't really know exactly what I was talking about. And then, you know, two and a half years into our marriage, you know, I sort of bought them out. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: Obviously, I thought it was something new, but it was pretty much the worst kept secret, not only in the music does but in my own household. And I told her, I said, you know, I just you know, I can't, you know, let it rain. It just been a number one song, and I just couldn't find. 00:09:48 Speaker 2: Any you know, real joy. 00:09:51 Speaker 3: Despite all these good things happening around me, and I just believed that wasn't normal, so that that know, began this journey of sort of trying to figure out a solution. 00:10:04 Speaker 4: So what were you? 00:10:07 Speaker 1: What were you doing that you think you're so unlovable that she would be gone? 00:10:14 Speaker 3: It was just hard, Like, you know, it's one thing to be able to have something to sort of point to where you can go, well, okay, maybe this is why I'm this is why I'm this

way. 00:10:26 Speaker 2: And I didn't have one of those things. 00:10:29 Speaker 3: I'd had a great childhood, great parents, stable raising, a church like pretty picture perfect and so but as a result of that, you know, I felt guilty for why I felt the way it felt and why I was always sort of down in the dumps. 00:10:51 Speaker 1: And how many years has it been now? 00:10:56 Speaker 2: We just celebrated seventeen in June, and if. 00:11:01 Speaker 1: She would here with us, would she be saying, I'm so glad I stuck it out. 00:11:08 Speaker 2: Hopefully she would say, yes, I have a friend that. 00:11:12 Speaker 1: She's long past now, so is her husband. But they had been married like fifty years, and she told me that on their ten year anniversary. She said to him, sometimes I don't even know if you love me, And cal replied, I told you I loved you the day I married you. If anything changes, I'll let you know. So tell me about flowers. I love flowers. I am a rabid gardener. And I understand that the artwork and the handwriting is your mom's, well. 00:11:55 Speaker 2: Just a handwriting, and it was a freak thing. 00:12:00 Speaker 3: It's not exactly verbatim with her hand minging, and everybody touchs about a AI being so terrible. I got on the trained pretty late with necessarily like what you could do? You know everybody the music that hates it, but. 00:12:20 Speaker 2: Uh, sort of yeah, it's it's too. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: So there's a song on there called a Bunch of Flowers that I wrote about my daughter, my monest daughter. 00:12:32 Speaker 2: And and then when. 00:12:39 Speaker 3: I had they asked me what the title that one was like total and they and they told me that that wasn't good enough, which is. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: The first time I'd ever been told that, and so you know, it was offended and told him that, you know, this was something that meant something to me, and so they said, we just think that it can be be more to So I said, well, I'll tell you what I will. I'll spend the weekend listening to it and I'll just see if Solf speaks to me, and if it does, you know, then that'll be it. If it doesn't, you know, I tried, and that was our compromise. 00:13:18 Speaker 1: And so what was your working title? What was the original title that they threw out? 00:13:24 Speaker 2: No that they it was just d. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: I felt like this breck really represented me, so initially I was like, well, it could be self titled, but I'm too stubborn. 00:13:40 Speaker 2: To just do that. I had to put my own twist on it. And so d N was my way of saying it's self titled. And they were like, that's terrible. 00:13:54 Speaker 1: Boy, Am I glad they said that's terrible because Flowers is beautiful. The songs that I got to listen to, I didn't get to listen to all of them, but they were sweet and tender little stories. I felt like, I was like when I listened the first couple of times to the Crown or uh, where you're saying goodbye. It's like a little movie where I was playing in my head. 00:14:23 Speaker 4: These we still see the queen, miss like you seventy standing there in your home coming down, even though we lost story, even though the past pay you have a home in this old town. I saw down down, but I still seen the crown. 00:14:59 Speaker 1: You know, I could see that the whole little story play out. They're very sweet stories. 00:15:06 Speaker 3: Well thank you, I mean I think that, you know, let's tell somebody earlier. I have a really difficult time with sort of imagining what other people would say, what other people would do, somebody else's lives, you know. 00:15:25 Speaker 2: For really the entire my entire career, I've. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Been writing for myself and towed to write for myself and recording for myself, so. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: I never really had to work on that, and so it's always been something as long as I've done it. Now it's been very challenging. It's sort of you know, if I sort of say, you know, an idea or whatever a line. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: And somebody says, you know, oh, well I think it should be this, I'm like, well, I wouldn't say that. 00:16:02 Speaker 2: Well I wouldn't do that, you know, And I've been there's a couple of times, well you know, somebody else say well what you did is not as interesting, Well what you said was not as interesting, And we're trying to write the best song, like let's change it up, and I'm like yeah, but like then I feel like. 00:16:20 Speaker 1: I'm lying so the stories, I mean, the homecoming Queen's story, that's clearly someone else's story. Was it Is it true? Is it somebody you knew? 00:16:33 Speaker 2: Or is it is very true somebody I knew very well for eighteen nineteen, twenty years. 00:16:44 Speaker 3: And then obviously, you know, more or less completely lost touch for twenty plus years. 00:16:51 Speaker 2: But a friend of mine that I still keep in touch with. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Had had sort of gotten in touch with this particular person and more or less just said like, hey, when when this sort of thing that you're going through or this place that you're in, when this when. 00:17:07 Speaker 2: You get out? You know, are you going to come home? And she said, now, there's no way that. 00:17:12 Speaker 3: She's like, you know, they know the me that left when I was eighteen nineteen years old, and they're not prepared for the person I am now. 00:17:22 Speaker 2: And I just thought that that was the saddest thing I ever heard. I was like, man, if you. 00:17:27 Speaker 3: Every single critical decision moment in my life, heartbreak, you know whatever, like that's the. 00:17:39 Speaker 2: Place I leaned on. That's you know, it wasn't even a decision. I would just sort of find my welcome, find myself. Driving home. 00:17:46 Speaker 3: I must have called my parents and I must have called my God as friends, and so I just thought, Man, if you can't go home, where the hell you're supposed to go? And so that's what this song was,

you know about, was just like hey, you know, and I said something in the interview once and I wasn't even trying. 00:18:05 Speaker 2: To come up with some cool fingers say. 00:18:09 Speaker 3: I just said, you know, I'm not the judge, and this song is not about being a judge. It's just about being a messenger of like, hey, you know you're. 00:18:23 Speaker 2: This is where you need to come. Yeah, we're here for you. 00:18:27 Speaker 3: We'll always be here for you. That we were here for you for eighteen nineteen years, and we'll be here if and when you're ready to come home. And I haven't actually been contact with her, but I. 00:18:42 Speaker 2: Do know that she did come back, and I think she's you know, I don't know. 00:18:49 Speaker 3: Thriving is pre aggressively word, but I know that she's back on her feet at least, you know, the quality of life and the choices are a lot better. 00:19:03 Speaker 1: That was going to be my next question, So thank you for sharing that. When I listen to it, I have a habit when I see somebody in pain or since somebody's in pain, or I'm talking to a collar on my radio show that's in pain. I just start praying, like I just like God, please reach down. And when I was listening to that song, I listened to it two or three times. I said, Please God, let her know that she is the daughter of the King of kings, that she has a crown so much better than a homecoming crown, and that she is valuable and loved. Please God let her know that. So I hope, I hope that someday she feels how precious and wonderful she is. 00:19:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully people realize here the hoping and hear the sort of the plea of like, yeah, we're here. It's really you know, obviously nothing you can do to sort of change our view of you, but yeah, we're here for you. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: We can we can figure we can figure this out. 00:20:12 Speaker 3: We know who you are and we've sort of raised you as a community, and we can you know, there's there's nothing that we can't figure out. 00:20:21 Speaker 2: Together. 00:20:22 Speaker 1: We're hearing David Nail's story today and there's a lot more to come, but first I want to tell you the story of an incredible sponsor. I'm so glad to get to share all that Mercy Ships is doing in the world with you. They travel to medical deserts, providing free, life changing surgeries to people in need. Led by an all volunteer crew. They've been putting their faith into action for almost fifty years. Mercy Ships is all about impact. They performed nearly one hundred and twenty thousand free surgeries to date and touched more than two million lives. 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And when she first win, I remember the first time she in my hometown, she wasn't exactly you know, hoping and hollering with joy, but over you know, and and I couldn't really explain it, you know, I'm I think more than anything, it's just when you when you grow up around a community, in a community that's so supportive of you and sort of your life and family, it really becomes a part of who you are inside. So you know, had I not wanted to be a Saint, I would never left, you know. And and maybe if I'm going to college, I'll probably come back. I mean there because I never really wanted to leave. I wasn't prepared to leave. I felt like I had to because you know, this is before American Isley wouldn't come in through can Missouri to look for the next singer, you know, So you know, I sort of came here reluctantly because I felt like I had to. But I love it, you know, it's it's it's special this last year going through you know, my mother getting extremely yell and then ended up passing. Like just watching them around around my father. It's in a weird way, it's you know, I remember I remember thinking it won't ever be the same, But I remember thinking like I ever won't be able to go back, And it went from that to like now, it's it's like sort of like a hug, you know. It's sort of like a comforting. 00:24:01 Speaker 2: Feeling to be back there, and yeah, be around people where if I have a. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: Week moll man or I get emotional, they they know, they understand. I don't explain it, you know, mm hmm. 00:24:17 Speaker 2: So it was really good, and my kids and growing to love it. My wife's girl to love it. You know. My wife was like, do you want to stay extra day anymore? I was like, no, I got some stuff I gotta get back to on Tuesday. So we came back yesterday. 00:24:32 Speaker 3: But I sure you the first couple of times she went, she wasn't asking to stay an extra day with my mother's parents passed away. My grandfather passed away. It had my mother had stayed. She stayed in my hometown and they never went anywhere. She took care of her parents. She was the only kid that lived in the town. She took that job and did a wonderful job of it. So perspected her so much and admired her so much for for taking the initative to do that. And so then when my grandfather passed away, I was like, oh, well, now you have time. She'd been retired several years. Now you have time to travel. They went on two trips, and then my mother got to where she

couldn't travel certainly, not very far. And I think that they're sort of I would say bitterness, but like, you know, it was sort of like man's you know, I sort of missed out on all this stuff because I was careful my parents, and then I got sick, and it's sort of never and you push things off, push things off, and then something happens and. 00:25:48 Speaker 2: There's never time or you're never allowed the opportunity. 00:25:52 Speaker 3: And so, you know, they would come visit us and they'd make comments, you know, about things closed or people moving away, everybody's getting sick. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: And ironically last year, on the fourth of July, I came home and I just sat down and I was just like, man, you know, I don't know how y'all feel about this place. 00:26:22 Speaker 3: Me and my hometown, I said, but I thank the Good Lord every day that I was raised here. And I said, you know, you're in your late seventies now, and I'm sure that there's things that you wish you insane and done and stuff. I said, but you know, everything that I am now is because of how I was raised. 00:26:44 Speaker 2: Who I was raised around. You know. It sort of gave me an appreciation, you know. 00:26:53 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was twenty one for I saying the ocean for the first time. I was twenty seven with the Disney World and I went by myself. It's pretty sad. There's certainly some parents looking at me like, who's that weird? 00:27:06 Speaker 2: Though, But and it was I've gotten to go to so many places and do so many amazing things. But uh. 00:27:20 Speaker 3: Well, I actually started the song ironically this morning. It's sort of about that. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: You know. 00:27:25 Speaker 3: It's like, no matter where I've be, no matter what I've done, I always come back, like whether it's an advan or something. You know, just I've never never, at any point in my life. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: I've ever been like I gotta go back. I got to go back to town. 00:27:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: My wife wasn't such a snooty city girl. We'd wite live. 00:27:49 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're sharing your music with us. David Nail dot com. Correct for tickets because you're you're doing very intimate little shows. Yes, now you take in August off though, right, we got a few. 00:28:03 Speaker 2: Things in August. Yeah, but this is my my little one starting in kindergarten, so down here we start. I mean, it's like every year. 00:28:11 Speaker 3: They started a few days early, a few days earlier. So initially I thought it was August first, but to twist it bag a few days. But I told him, I said, if I'm not there to take my kindergarten to kindergarten for the first day, I said. 00:28:26 Speaker 2: You gotta do it, man, she may burn the house down. That's my little one, not my wife. My wife would be like, she understands, she gets it. But the little one I wasn't there for her preschool graduations. You know, I'll think she talked to me for a month. 00:28:45 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for talking to us. I just pray God just blesses you and continues to use you to sing songs to our hearts. 00:28:55 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. 00:28:56 Speaker 3: I appreciate you'll taking the time and thank you for being flexible to appreciate it all. 00:29:00 Speaker 1: Right, talk to you soon, Honny. David Nail's intimate down to the Studs tour, where he performs solo justic guitar, stories and songs, is currently ongoing. He's enjoying reconnecting with audiences in listening rooms and small theaters across the country. He'll take much of August off, but we'll be back on the road in September. He remains guided by a simple philosophy, stay truthful, keep growing, and make music that means something long after the moment passes. Visit davidnail dot com for tour info, to get tickets, and to pre order this new CD called Flowers. I do appreciate David coming on board and sharing the news about his music, his tour, his journey. We're all on one kind of journey or another, with some legs being more difficult than others. David discovered the best thing to do is reach out for help, to exercise, to hold on to family, and to channel his talents into this great music, which is no longer about chasing trends, but about being authentic. The summer is heating up. I sure hope you are staying cool. What do you do when things are heating up and it just feels like too much. Take some clues from David Nail. Let people in, let friends help, and when called for, reach out to professionals. Move your body, exercise, and find a pursuit you love. A passion you love, even if you're not good at it. It doesn't matter if it brings you joy. Follow that, Follow that passion, and oh hey, join me in the evenings. I'll be right here, playing your request and your dedications and sharing stories just like the good old days. Until next time, do me a favor of take some time out of your hot summer schedule to slow down and love someone