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Speaker 1: Moving on Daria Eliza Chevalier, who is one of the members of the Mam Donnie Caucus, has been making the rounds here because well, she won the big primary on Tuesday in New York and she's sort of the leading face behind Zora Mamdani of this Mandannie caucus. And she went on Ali Velshi's program in the MS NOW basically asking Velshi asking, how do you respond to this idea that you're a communist.
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Speaker 2: Allegation and you're going to appear in all sorts of people's ads, all such of Republicans ads to say this is what you're going to get if you vote for the Democrats, a communist you know.
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Speaker 3: I think that is that framing is one that I've been very proud to be able to say I don't respond to, one in which I have been very intentional to say, I won't be reactive. We are presenting a vision of what we're fighting for, and I think for far too long we have had politics that is reactive to what Republicans are doing. What we need is Democrats who are actually going to present a positive vision, one that sets the tone for what we should be talking about, which is the issue of affordability, which is the issue of how our budgets are moral documents. If we say that we want to invest in working people in this country, then we need to do that, and our budgets need to reflect that. If we say that we value immigration and immigration justice, we need to make sure that that is also reflective in our policy. And so I'm very proud of a campaign that we built that centers those ideals, that centers those values and that vision for what we need as a community. And that's how I'll continue to move forward in Congress. And I think that for far too long, this reactive conversation of what we should be afraid of has prevented us from being able to have a politics of hope and the politics of life that Democrats can actually identify with when the majority of the Democrats base has been seeking for the Democratic Party to act.
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Speaker 1: Delegate ali Velshi asks how do you respond to allegations that you're a communists? And Daria Eliza says, no, what Kevin am I taking crazy pills?
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Speaker 4: Kevin? Is that is did you did you hear the same answer that I did.
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Speaker 5: The greatest thing about what she says is she goes, we need to Perford a positive vision that sets the tone. And we need to understand that our budgets are moral documents that reflect the moral fabric of the municipality. That's crazy considering the what billions or trillions of dollars I get fleshed down the toilet in New York City.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So Darieliza says budgets are moral documents, and.
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Speaker 6: I actually agree with but world documents than New York City is the seventh layer of hell.
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Speaker 1: But I can't I can't disagree with that point. It is almost too funny how New York City has run.
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Speaker 4: Their their municipal government.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand how Look, probably the thing that ticks me off the most about New York City is how they basically got a bail out from the state and then said, look, Zaramandani basically wiped out our debt.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they all hate Kathy Hokel despite it.
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Speaker 4: God, it's just it's so tiring.
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Speaker 1: But it gets even better because Ali Velshi he comes in with the even harder hitting question. Uh, specifically about Daria Eliza's criticisms of the Democrat Party.
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Speaker 2: But the Joe Biden one, you did say you called him a rape.
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Speaker 4: Is that the kind of thing that.
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Speaker 2: Just because you're sort of a digital native and that you do on the internet, or did you believe that and.
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Speaker 3: Do you believe that you know I have. I think there was a lot of misunderstandings around what where my posts, why they were deleted. I deleted my account many years back because I was focused on returning to organizing and my studies. I was working on a PhD program, and I think often we are asked to we're asked to really have accountability for folks who have not held political office or have political power, and don't do the same for folks who are in positions of political power. Now, all that to say, I do regret my tweets, and there's something that I think has brought a lot of division, and that's something I regret because as an organizer, my goal is always to unify our community and deliver for our community.
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Speaker 4: And I think.
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Speaker 3: There's this question of why is it that when folks who do not have power political power in this instance, are being held accountable for things, we don't also hold accountable folks who do have political power, where the decisions they are making in office every single day have an enormous impact on millions of people in our country, right, and I think for folks who feel disempowered, it's important to make sure that we're getting to the heart of where that sense of disempowerment.
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Speaker 2: Deciding you actually said that with respect your tweet about Kamala harr you said that it came from a place of you feeling disempowered.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think so much. So many folks in our country feel that they don't have representation that.
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Speaker 4: Is fighting for She is disempowered.
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Speaker 5: Imagine today, did she say that she took a break from calling Joe Biden a rapist on Twitter to start community organizing and get a PhD.
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Speaker 1: So she's gonna we'll get into the PhD thing in just a second. But she says she regrets her tweets. What part did you grit calling Joe Biden a rapist or saying f Kamala Harris? And she says this because she was disempowered. Think about what she is when she's empowered. I mean the she's focused on this campaign of hope. Who she thinks she is Barack Obama in two thousand and eight, This is she wants, she wants to be the Hope and
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Speaker 4: She's ticking. I mean, what's also funny is that she.
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Speaker 1: A contrary to Barack Obama, who says he's not a Muslim. Daria Elizah Chevalier actually converted to Islam back in twenty eighteen for reasons I'm not sure. Look, everybody has their own spiritual journey. I'm not going to faulter he for converting to Islam. But it almost seems like she felt social pressure too, because the way she described her story was, hey, you've been fasting for Ramadan for four years, that you never take in your shahad, your declaration of faith in Islam, And so she's like, I guess I'll do it.
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Speaker 5: Um.
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Speaker 4: That sounds like peer pressure to me. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It almost sounds like because identity politics, specifically around that time was such sort of it was a it was very very hot, right, it was very hot in the twenty tens, and it was almost as if adding more and more sort of quote unquote oppressed identities was going to help her in the long run. And well, she goes she goes ahead and calls Joe Biden the rapists and says f Kamala Harris and that you know they're committing a genocide in Palestine and Gaza. And then she quits Twitter because she wants to go back and I guess gether PhD in sociology. But here she is with with what's her name, oh, Jensaki Inside Jensaki.
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Speaker 3: I am someone who has felt deeply abandoned by the establishment politics that far too often see my community as merely a statistic that far too often only shows up to explain away the circumstances that the politics that they have voted for time and time again, which I've impacted our community in ways that they do not feel the effects of. And as someone who has had to live with the question and whether I can even afford to stay in the city I.
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Speaker 4: Love, So.
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Speaker 1: What Look, if you can't afford to stay in the city that you want to be in, move I mean, there are people who obviously want to live in New York. I can't imagine why anyone would want to move to New York. But people should live within their means. I feel like I have to refer all of these socialists over to Caleb Hammer, so you could basically ream them out over all the things or even Dave Ramsey and just completely like read them the Riot Act of all the things that they're doing wrong. Daria Liza has been in a PhD program for seven years, is studying sociology. I mean, yeah, sure you get it, probably a stipend from your PhD program, but obviously not enough to live on.
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Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 1: And people who can't live within their means, whether they do they get a roommate, they get summer roommates, sometimes they get you know, sometimes they go live on the street in a cardboard box.
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Speaker 4: That's probably what I would do.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I have I have a family, and I got I got, I got kids to feed, So no cardboard box for me. I mean, Kevin that there's something to be said about sort of the whole socialist wave and how look, there's only so much of other people's money that you should be able to spend, but it's always fun to spend other people's money until you run out of it.
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Speaker 5: It really sounds like she's admitting that she decided to run for office so that she could, you know, flush out her Martini budget in yours.
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Speaker 4: It's a moral doc. It's a moral document.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, want to see her moral document? Her moral budget of how she's spending money.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, look and again, it would be really funny. And there are plenty of Muslims who drink. But imagine if she just like was a you know, an absolute boozer, just like just absolute rager on the on the Friday and Saturday night, just getting absolutely hammered.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, bringing the bottle of wine to the socialist sewing circle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that takes the precedence over over her, her Islamic babe,