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Hi.
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Hey.
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Now we have to deal with a Donald episode.
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A Donald episode.
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I'm excited.
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Donald has come up with something for us to do.
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Okay.
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I I worry.
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Oh, Dan, this is gonna be great.
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So, you know, we just talked about sinners, assuming this all goes in the order that we filmed these in.
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And I think we love movies, and it would be a good idea to show the audience we are prolific film lovers.
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Prolific film lovers.
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Those things go together.
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Do you think we love films prolifically?
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Or that we prolifically love?
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Or that we watch a lot of movies and love them at the same time.
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Or we're just prolific in some area.
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We are prolific and we are film lovers.
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And those are separate ideas.
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Okay.
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That's the same thing.
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I'm prolific at writing.
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Dan's prolific at puns.
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You are so much better at puns than I am.
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I was yeah, that's true.
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You are prolific at dungeon mastering.
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That's true.
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You are very prolific at video games, certain ones, more than me.
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That's true.
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I just played Star Wars Outlaws.
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Compared to most writers, you are also prolific as a writer.
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You just are not prolific compared to me.
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But to the average writer, you are quite a prolific author.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you very much.
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Let me just tell the audience how exciting it is to be the other author at Dragon Steel.
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In terms of, you know, have you finished that project yet, Dan?
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Not quite, but it'll be done soon.
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Whereas Brandon has already written like three other books accidentally in his sleep.
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It's all right.
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Rachel Lynn gets to be the other other author at Dragon Steel.
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The secret author.
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So, you know.
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That's true.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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So we are prolific and we are movie lovers.
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What are we doing?
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What we are doing, and you should be seeing this on screen audience, we are going to be doing a higher or lower than for ratings on Letterboxd.
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Basically, Dan and Brandon are going to be shown two or three movies, and what they have to do is determine which movie has the higher rating or the lower rating above all of them.
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And this is letterboxed.
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Letterboxd is a tough crowd.
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It is.
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And I don't use it.
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Like if this were tomato meter, I bet I could nail every one of them.
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So letterboxed is a tougher crowd, it skews more toward what the critical reception would be.
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Because this is people who want to have an account and they try to write clever reviews so people will read them.
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They want to be part of this community.
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So it's it's it's even a tougher crowd than Goodreads.
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Your average on Letterboxd is lower than your Goodreads average.
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Interesting.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, I am excited to try this.
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Okay.
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So we don't get called out of the comments.
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It is recording of 1022.
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That is the current ratings.
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Yeah.
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So we do it.
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And then most correct guesses win.
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Okay.
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Ready for the first one.
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Yes.
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All right.
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First one we have.
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This should be a higher.
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The two films is The Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption.
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Which one has the higher rating?
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It seems uh obvious that Shawshank would be the higher rating.
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And that makes me think it isn't.
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Here's the thing.
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The more ratings something gets online, the lower it goes.
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Which is typically true.
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But on the other hand, Shawshank is the highest rated movie on IMDb.
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At least it has been in the past.
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But I could see, for instance, The Green Mile's a pretty famous film still.
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These are both from the same short story collection by Stephen King.
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I'm going to guess that you're right.
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I'm going to put Shawshank higher.
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I think it would be uh mad to do otherwise.
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But if it isn't, it's because the Shawshank Redemption has 300,000 reviews and the Green Mile has 20,000 reviews.
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Yeah.
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And over time, what happens is people who really love a thing run out and rate it.
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And people who run across a thing over time.
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Yeah.
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Well, and it's also possible that a lot of people have said, oh, Shawshank is this movie that everybody loves.
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Yes.
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I'm going to watch it and see.
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And then they're like, what?
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Yep.
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This movie is 30 something years old and not for me.
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And I'm going to rate it portable.
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So are you going to do the reversal?
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Are you going to try to play the mind games?
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Or are you going to I'm going to play the mind game.
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Okay.
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So you're putting Green Mile on here.
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I'm going to say that even though Shawshank is the clear winner, I think that Green Mile must have the higher letterboxed rating.
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Yeah, that's playing Donald, because why would he put this on here?
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I'm still putting Shawshank higher.
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Okay.
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I think he just wanted to be like, let's see how IMDB looks.
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I'm going to grab two films that are kind of similar and put them on.
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At the risk of being all Vicini about this, I would not put it past Donald to know that I would second guess him and do this on purpose to trick me, and it's actually Shawshank.
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Uh-huh.
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So anyway, I'm saying Green Mile, you're saying Shawshank.
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Yeah, like I'm going to say Shawshank has.
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I probably won't do this for all of them, but I'm going to say Shawshank has an impossibly high rating.
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Like a four have the actual rating.
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Yeah, a 4.4 or 4.5, which is really high for Letterboxd.
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And I'm going to say Green Mile has like a 4.1 or 4.2.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Let's hear it.
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Let's see it.
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So, Dan, you would be correct.
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This is a warm-up round.
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Shawshank is going to obviously be like one of the first.
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4.6.
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4.6.
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Yeah.
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With Green Mile being a 4.3.
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Now both are in top 500.
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So I was underestimating the crowd a little bit by putting one as a 4.4 and the other as a 4.1.
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Okay.
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And I have learned a valuable lesson about trying to rate the movies and not trying to just guess what Donald is doing.
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Oh, he's going to throw some curveballs at us.
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I've never thrown a curveball at us.
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It does say Shawshank Redemption is number seven overall on letterboxes.
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So that makes me wonder if it's a good one.
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Okay, yeah, that explains the 4.6.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And anything that's in the top 500, I should have grabbed them all.
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So they should be there.
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All right.
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Slide two.
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I've got the lower on this one.
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What is lower?
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Morbius or Madam Webb?
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These two have to go up against each other.
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They do.
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Now this is fun.
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Man.
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Madam Webb is actually actively a worse movie.
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Yes.
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Morbius is more bland.
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Madam Webb has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score.
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I'm going to guess Madame Webb.
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Okay.
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I'm going to guess Madam Webb is lower than Morbius is.
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Even though, and let's be clear about this, watching Madam Webb was a thoroughly enjoyable experience.
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And that's what could throw this off is if you're going to ask me which of these two I want to watch, Madam Webb wins by just every day of the week.
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Yeah.
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It is one of the best bad movies I've I've seen.
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I agree.
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All right.
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You would be correct.
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Madam Webb is the low, but only by a literally a 0.1.
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Well, be aware that some of these, and I think Letterbox is the same way.
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Zero stars.
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Is zero stars available on Letterboxd?
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They can go beneath, yeah.
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There's like 0.75, etc., to my understanding.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So Morbius has a 1.6, Madam Webb has a 1.5.
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Because on like Amazon, you can't rate something zero stars, I believe.
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Famously, which pushes everything up higher.
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Yeah.
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But I've saw some in my research.
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All right.
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Okay.
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Third slide.
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This should be a higher.
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We're going for the three Lord of the Rings.
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Which has the highest rating?
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Oh, this is mean.
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Oh, this is so mean.
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Okay, so Two Towers is the best one.
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Return of the King won all of the awards.
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Yes.
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Fellowship of the Ring is the most widely accessible to non-nerds.
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But I think because of that, one is going to get the lowest rating because it's going to be watched by more people who don't watch the second and third.
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Yeah.
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And the one, and so this happens in books a ton too.
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Now, I can't guarantee that I'm right in this specific case, but a lot of times a first book in a series will be one of the lowest rated because everyone who doesn't like it doesn't read the second.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Like your DNFs are on one.
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Yes.
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And so I am going to put one as the lowest and three is the highest because three is the crowd pleaser, though two I think is the best.
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I'm going to say two is higher.
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Okay.
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That in order, they're going to go one, three, two.
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Okay.
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And two's the highest rating.
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These are good guesses.
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Brandon is right.
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Oh.
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Return of the King is the 4.6.
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Yeah.
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Two Towers is 4.4.
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And Vilo Ship is the least of them.
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But all are in top 100.
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Oh.
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Fellowship is only lower than two towers by a
hundredth of a point.
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Yes.
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That's pretty good for they're all in the top hundred on Letterboxd.
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So wow.
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It's Lord of the Rings.
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I can't say I'm too.
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Return of the King is a 4-6.
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It is number 11.
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Yep.
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So it's a little lower than Shawshank.
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Yes.
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Which is impressive.
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Yep.
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Alrighty.
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This is another lower.
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We're going to be looking at the room.
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And Sharknado.
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Which of these two is lower?
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For the crowd that uses letterbox.
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Yeah.
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I think they're going to like the room for fun value more.
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I think they're going to be dismissive and dislike Sharknado for trying.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Because both of these movies are in part famous because of how kind of campy they are.
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Right.
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And Sharknado delivers on its promise.
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Yes.
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So that's a reason that Sharknado could do better.
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Because if you go and you're like, I want to watch Sharknado, you get Sharknado, right?
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If you go into the room, oh, I'm convincing myself it's the other way around.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because you're not watching Sharknado unless you want Sharknado.
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Yeah.
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Sharknado is exactly as good as the people making it wanted it to be.
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Yes.
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The room, some people are going to watch the room because they heard that the making of the room won an Oscar, the disaster artist.
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And they're going to be like, well, the movie must be good.
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I haven't seen either one.
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And then they're going to watch the room and be befuddled.
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So I am going to rate the room lower.
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I think the same thing.
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You convinced me.
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Yeah.
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Oh, but should I switch it just because then we're not doing the same thing?
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It's up to you.
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The game is the game.
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Yeah.
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I think that because the room is so popular among film nerds, that a lot of people are going to watch it and say, no, I don't see what they're seeing.
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I'm going with my gut.
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I think Sharknado's lower because I think the people on Letterboxd specifically dislike it.
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I think on Rotten Tomatoes, it would be reversed.
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Okay.
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So Sharknado for Brandon, Sharknado for Dan?
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No, he's saying that.
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You're saying the room.
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The room is lower to Dan.
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And Sharknado's lower to the room.
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The room is lower.
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All right.
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It is lower as Sharknado.
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Dang it.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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And it's way lower.
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Yeah.
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2.6 to a 1.8.
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It's the audience.
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The audience doesn't want to watch Sharknado and enjoy it because it's a trying to be a bad movie on purpose.
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Yeah.
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So if we forced Oliver, who knows nothing about these films, my son, to watch them both, he would rate Sharknado higher.
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You see the cover?
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You would get that, you would rate it higher.
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But if you're a movie snob, you like the movie that's bad accidentally.
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You don't want to be caught enjoying the plebeian thing.
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Exactly.
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So, okay.
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All right, next slide.
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This is metagaming.
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Metagaming indeed.
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All right.
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This is another higher.
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Terminator 2 or aliens.
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Oh, I was hoping you're gonna say T1.
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That would be T1.
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That was actually my first one.
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I went, oh, it's too easy.
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Uh and this is high.
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Dan's personal ranking, it's aliens all the way.
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Is it?
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My personal ranking, it's T2, but they're very good.
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T2 is excellent.
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These are both phenomenal movies that came out at a similar time.
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They've both got the same director.
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And Aliens is a horror
movie.
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Skewing horror.
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And Terminator 2 instead of is a sci-fi thriller.
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Right.
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And so I'm always gonna love the sci-fi thriller.
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I love the use of like color and light in T2, and I love the way it builds in an interesting way on the first one where Aliens just Yeah.
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Here's the thing the Aliens series, because of the first one being such a defining kind of masterwork of cinema, attracts a more filmy crowd than the Terminator movies do.
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And so given what happened on our last one, I'm gonna say Aliens is higher.
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And I'm gonna say T2.
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Just I'm picking the one I like better in this case.
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I think they're very close and both excellent films.
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Okay.
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Dan, you might be a little sad on this one.
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Oh, for goodness sake.
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4.3 for Terminator.
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Have I been wrong about everything?
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Aliens is not on top 500.
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It's a 4.1.
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Alien is on top 500.
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Alien is not in the top 500?
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I couldn't find it.
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It was only Alien.
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Well, this is why I don't use Letterboxd, I guess.
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Okay.
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Well, I am genuinely surprised at this.
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There you go.
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I wonder if Letterbox has a criteria to get on the top 500, how many reviews you have to have.
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It's review, it's their how long the film is.
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It's a whole bunch of stuff.
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You can go look them up.
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I'll put them in the description as well for you.
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Because if it can't be pure rating, otherwise, the film that has four ratings that are all fives are going to be the number one.
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Yeah.
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No, of course.
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You run into that on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Like if you want to sort anything on Rotten Tomatoes by, oh, what's the best film that came out this year?
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It's a film that only has five reviews because they were all five stars.
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Yeah.
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And so it's 100%, which doesn't really tell you anything compared to the ones around it.
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The filmmakers.
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So I actually it's much shorter than I thought it was.
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It's 25,000 minimum ratings.
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That's totally fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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40 minutes long and then 25,000 ratings.
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Yeah.
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The problem is, once again, the more ratings you get, the more you will get pulled down.
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And this is just the natural effect of the fame of a piece going beyond its intended audience.
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Right.
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And it'll only pull it down a little bit, but the more ratings you get, the lower you get.
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Yeah.
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In general.
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I'm sure there's a few outliers that break that, but I would like to point out that I am the one who's famous for disliking things that people love.
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Yeah.
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And I think I've gotten every single one wrong.
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So clearly, I just don't know what people like.
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Well, we'll see.
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When it comes to the fine-tuning between a 4.1 and a 4.3, apparently.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We'll see what the next one.
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This is a lower.
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Here we go.
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We'll see what you got.
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So this is a 2007.
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Between Transformers and Spider-Man 3, which one got the lowest?
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Transformers 1?
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Transformers 1.
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Yeah.
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First Transformers.
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Well, Spider-Man 3 must be lower than Transformers 1.
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I'm going to go with you on that too.
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People didn't hate Transformers 1.
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Yeah.
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Transformers 1 to hate it.
00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:46.720
When that movie came out, there were, you know, people writing articles about how Michael Bay surprised everyone and made a movie with good characters that make sense.
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Yeah.
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Like people liked Transformers 1.
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I liked Transformers 1.
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Which maybe is a sign that it is the lower rated.
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But I'm going to say Spider-Man 3 is the lower rating.
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But here's the thing Letterbox wasn't started in 2007.
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Correct.
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Letterboxes started many, many years later.
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So these are people going back and rating films.
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--> 00:15:11.440
Now with their hatred of Michael Bay and their love of Sam Raimi.
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So that's going to skew the results.
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Maybe I am going to go with Spider-Man.
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If it were the year of, it would absolutely be Transformer.
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I'm going with Spider-Man Bang Higher because Letterbox gets started, and then all of the Cinephiles who love Sam Raimi are going to come in and they're not going to give it a four.
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But they'll be like, you know what?
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This is a three.
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And that's going to pull it up over time.
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That's my argument.
00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:38.000
Okay.
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Okay.
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I say you take any random person off the street in 2026 who's never seen either one.
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Yeah.
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Show them both of these movies.
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Yeah, they picked your Transformers every every yeah.
00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:48.399
So much more.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I'm sticking with it.
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Okay.
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Spider-Man 3 is lower.
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Okay.
00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:52.240
Okay.
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Spider-Man 3 is lower by a singular.
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You got it, Dan.
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That was the mind game.
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Win one.
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I thought I would get you with being like, do people retroactively go back?
00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:01.039
Yep.
00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.360
You got me with people retroactively go back.
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I'm surprised they're as close as they are.
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That's also why I picked it because I saw this and was like, what?
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Yeah.
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That's really interesting.
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I mean, Transformers is a stronger film.
00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:13.519
Yes.
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And maybe Transformers, I would watch a second time.
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Yeah.
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I would not watch anyone in the world would watch Spider-Man 3 a second time.
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I would, but I mean Actually, my son did.
00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:34.399
My son invited his friends over a couple weeks ago and they watched every Spider-Man movie, every wide release Spider-Man movie ever made, all in order.
00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:35.039
Okay.
00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:35.519
Okay.
00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:37.279
This should be higher.
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We are doing time loops.
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Looper, Edge of Tomorrow, and Groundhog's Day.
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Which one has higher of these three?
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I think the Ryan Johnson haters are going to come in and pull Looper down.
00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:49.759
Okay.
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Out of principle.
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I think that they are.
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Well, Looper is also just empirically the weakest of these three movies.
00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:57.279
I mean, they're all good movies.
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Yeah.
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Looper is a next good movie.
00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:05.200
But I think it's going to catch strays from people who have decided to hate Ryan Johnson.
00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:05.599
Okay.
00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:07.920
I think Groundhog Day is a classic.
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And I think it's going to go Groundhog Day top, Edge of Tomorrow, and then Looper.
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That's what I think it's going to be.
00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:13.759
Okay.
00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:22.799
There's a good argument to be made for Groundhog Day being one of, if not the greatest fantasy movies ever made.
00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.119
I mean, I would not be shocked if Groundhog Day is top 10 on Letterboxd.
00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:27.519
Yeah.
00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.920
So I What do you change about Grandhog Day?
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It is a perfect movie.
00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:31.519
Yeah.
00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:32.079
Right?
00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.319
So Oh, he's got, yeah.
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I I'm saying nothing because I'm not, I'm, I know all the ratings on this one.
00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:38.480
All right.
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Dan's pulling up his phone.
00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:41.920
No, it's my wife is texting me.
00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:43.759
You are allowed to text her back.
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We are a relaxed podcast.
00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:46.880
We are very relaxed podcasts.
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I should have just taken the call.
00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:49.279
You should ask Don.
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Phone to friends.
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Has Don seen any of these movies?
00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.559
Don has not seen Edge of Tomorrow as far as I know.
00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:58.720
But she I did watch Looper with her.
00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.160
And yeah, it's got to be Groundhog Day, it's higher.
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I'd be correct.
00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:03.599
Okay.
00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:04.559
Groundhog's Day.
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Although Edge of Tomorrow was not 381.
00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:07.759
Yep.
00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:09.680
What do you change about Groundhog Day?
00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:10.319
I'm not sure.
00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.240
What are these reviews that people are writing?
00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:14.960
Well, it's the same problem that you mentioned earlier.
00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.880
Groundhog Day is pretty old.
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Yeah, lots of people see it.
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So the only people reviewing it are people who have for some reason decided to watch it.
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Wow.
00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.960
Which is sad because Groundhog's Day is the best film on this.
00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:27.759
I love Edge of Tomorrow.
00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:29.440
I mean, Edge of Tomorrow's a really good film.
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I love it.
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But I mean, I can't imagine anybody being involved in Edge of Tomorrow not saying, oh yeah, Groundhog Day.
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We're striving for Groundhog Day.
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100%.
00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:38.000
Yeah.
00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:39.440
But that is that one.
00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:39.839
All right.
00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:40.240
Uh-huh.
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We're going back to lower.
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Inglorious Bastards or saving Private Ryan.
00:18:44.960 --> 00:18:45.039
Oh.
00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.519
Which one is the lower of these two?
00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:49.119
Okay, this is all right.
00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:56.720
This is going to be hard because Letterbox is going to be full, just full of people who love Tarantino.
00:18:57.039 --> 00:18:57.200
Right?
00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:03.599
Well, and Spielberg, I feel like he gets unfairly maligned in the last 10 or 15 years.
00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:04.799
Very unfairly.
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People don't appreciate him as much as they used to and as much as he deserves.
00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:17.920
So I can absolutely see people just, you know, quality aside, I can see people just rating a Tarantino higher than a Spielberg.
00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:18.079
Yeah.
00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.920
In terms of quality, I mean, they are both great movies, though.
00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:22.160
Yes.
00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.200
That's the thing.
00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.759
I gotta say that Inglorious Bastards is lower.
00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:28.160
Okay.
00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:30.079
I am going to say Inglorious Bastards Lower.
00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:30.559
I'll say that.
00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:30.960
Wait.
00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:31.200
Okay.
00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:31.680
Wait.
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Wait.
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Because the first scene of Inglorious Bastards is like the internet's favorite movie scene ever.
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Yes.
00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:41.680
So maybe that bumps it up.
00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:42.480
Yeah.
00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:53.279
But we've seen in these other ratings, I'm going to say, Dan, that the general appreciation of film has had more of an effect on Letterbox than I thought it would.
00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.960
Most of these have kind of gone down the line of which one's more popular?
00:19:57.119 --> 00:19:58.079
That's the higher rated one.
00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:00.319
Which one's more popular among people who like movies?
00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:00.720
Yeah.
00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:00.960
Yeah.
00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.200
So yeah, I'm going to say saving Private Ryan is higher and Glorious Bastards is lower.
00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:05.440
Okay.
00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.200
So you're both doing Inglorious Bastards.
00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:07.519
Yes.
00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.440
It is by a point higher.
00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.880
And it is higher on the Letterbox top 500 as well.
00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:18.559
So saying Private Ryan still has he threw this in at us to twist us.
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A little bit.
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To get us wrong.
00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.000
Because he's just being mean.
00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:24.160
Hey, look, it's it's love of the game.
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All right.
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This is for hires.
00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:28.319
Inception or Interstellar?
00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:29.359
Oh.
00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:32.079
Ollie.
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Which one do you think is better?
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I'm doing my job and making my kids watch Nolan films.
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There you go.
00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:41.200
It's a tough one.
00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:44.880
Which womp do you want?
00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:49.519
You think on it?
00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:52.559
This one, in my opinion, surprised me.
00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:54.880
Ollie likes Interstellar.
00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.759
Yeah, all my kids, I think, liked Interstellar a little better.
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.640
Yeah, that's that's why I think I mean for me, there is no contest.
00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.920
Inception, I think, is a more of a branded film.
00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:08.319
Okay.
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:09.680
I love Interstellar.
00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.640
I actually love the music in Interstellar more than Inception, though.
00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:14.480
The Inception music is kind of iconic.
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They're both, you know, fantastic soundtracks.
00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:20.319
But you know how I am for a heist film.
00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:20.559
Yep.
00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.720
And a heist film done in a weird way.
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:27.119
So I'm gonna pick by my favorite on this one, I'm gonna pick Inception.
00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:27.359
Okay.
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:28.480
I've said this before.
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:30.559
I have not actually seen Interstellar yet.
00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:30.880
Okay.
00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:34.880
I know that I need to, but I also know that it is super beloved.
00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:35.519
It is.
00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.880
It is, I think, my brother's favorite movie of all time.
00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:39.359
Okay.
00:21:39.519 --> 00:21:40.640
Well, no, it's his second.
00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:42.400
His favorite
movie is Millions.
00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:43.519
Good choice.
00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.079
Yeah, I'm gonna say Interstellar is higher.
00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.119
I think Interstellar is the more popular one.
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:50.559
Dan, you are correct.
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.240
Interstellar is the more popular one.
00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:53.599
Ooh, and by quite a bit.
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:54.400
Wow.
00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.720
Four two to four five.
00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.960
Yes, I was surprised to see this personally, but Understellar's loved.
00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:01.839
Alright.
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.480
Another, what is the lower of the two?
00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.279
The Iron Giant or the Prince of Egypt.
00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:08.799
Prince of Egypt.
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:09.759
Yeah?
00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.359
I don't know.
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:13.680
Internet hard.
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.640
Which one is controversial?
00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:21.359
And attached to a controversial, which one's gonna get review bombed?
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.799
Well, that's just very easy for me for that reason.
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:25.440
Okay.
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:27.440
They are both great movies.
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:29.200
They're both beloved movies.
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:37.039
You are correct that one of them, yeah, just by the nature of its subject, people are going to attack it.
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.839
And which one is the better film?
00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.200
I think that's hard to choose.
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:49.440
The thing about Iron Giant is that it is so much better than you think it's gonna be.
00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:50.160
Exactly.
00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:55.680
You go into Prince of Egypt and you're like, you know, that was a really good Moses story.
00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:56.000
Right.
00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.160
And you go into Iron Giant and you're like, okay, I'll watch this dumb cartoon with you.
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.200
And then at the end you're like, dang, that's incredible.
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:05.119
Yeah so I think I'm with you.
00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:06.960
Uh Prince of Egypt has lower ratings.
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.240
Thing about Prince of Egypt is I actually have to pick between them.
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:20.480
I I like the script of Iron Giant better, but the I think that Prince of Egypt had more money behind all of the animation and things and the music.
00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:28.400
Obviously, the Iron Giant isn't a musical, but I think Prince of Egypt is a stronger film in all aspects but story.
00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:30.720
And Iron Giant, I prefer the story.
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:35.759
But I'm gonna say that I think Prince of Egypt is rated lower for the reasons that I stated.
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.400
Okay, yeah.
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:38.240
I thought I could curveball you guys.
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:38.720
You were correct.
00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:42.799
Prince of Egypt is still up, like it's still pretty high, but it's not in top five of the things.
00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.640
The thing is, you get to the end of Prince of Egypt and you're like, yeah, that was really good.
00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:55.039
And you get to the end of Iron Giant, and like the last scene is yeah, you're either crying or you're shocked at how good it is.
00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:55.440
Yeah.
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.000
And so just that yeah.
00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:06.400
A good to the point that there were several Dragon Steel employees that had not seen Iron Giant and said, cool, I'm borrowing Brandon's theater so we can show people how why this movie is so important.
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:08.720
So we're going to hires again.
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:10.000
How many more do we have, by the way?
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.160
We should have about ten more.
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:13.599
Oh, we're halfway through?
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:13.920
Yeah.
00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:14.240
Okay.
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:15.039
We need to go fast.
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:15.680
We'll go fast.
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:16.480
Okay, here we go.
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.359
Which is Independence Day or Deep Impact?
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:20.720
Independence Day all day.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:21.200
Okay.
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:22.400
Deep Impact.
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.480
Deep Impact came and went, left no cultural footprint.
00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:26.880
Agreed.
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:27.599
Nobody cares.
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.920
But people hate Roland Emmerich now.
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:35.759
He made a good film and then tried to remake that film over and over again.
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:41.440
And so I'm actually going to say Deep Impact because Deep Impact is not a bad film.
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:42.319
I agree.
00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:44.720
It was not the spectacle Independence Day is.
00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:47.599
I think Independence Day is kind of a bad movie.
00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:48.160
Really?
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:48.720
Yes.
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.200
Ooh, we should talk about this at some point when we have time.
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:58.880
Lots of cool things going on, but it's like it's an elevated B movie, whereas Deep Impact is like a real movie.
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:01.519
Okay.
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:02.240
Right?
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.319
It doesn't have Will Smith chewing on a cigar and punching an alien in the face.
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:06.960
Mm-hmm.
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:08.480
Independence Day does.
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.079
That's not a real movie, right?
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.599
Let's let's establish that, Dan.
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:14.160
No, that's that's how I rate all movies.
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.240
So I'm putting Deep Impact higher.
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:20.400
I think that the movie snobs are gonna be like me and be like, yeah.
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.039
So even like Shawshank Redemption.
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:26.559
Five Will Smiths punching an alien out of five.
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.240
Well, Brandon, I'm afraid uh Independence Day is a little better.
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:30.480
Okay.
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:31.599
Wow.
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:31.759
Okay.
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:35.920
I've only seen Deep Impact one time, so I was trying to I was trying to curb all this.
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.279
Dan, you got another point on me.
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.039
We're pretty close to each other, I bet.
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:39.359
You are.
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:40.480
Yeah, we're neck and neck.
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.400
All right, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast.
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:42.799
All right.
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.079
We're doing lower.
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.039
Bridge terapithea, Narnia, or Hunger Games.
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:48.160
Oh, Bridge Terapithe.
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:49.759
Bridge terapithe is the bottom.
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:50.240
Okay.
00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:51.039
Easily.
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:52.160
Easily the bottom.
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:52.960
It was not.
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:54.000
It's Narnia.
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:56.240
Narnia is the lowest on this list.
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.200
Oh, yep.
00:25:57.440 --> 00:25:58.880
You didn't let us pick highest, but I guess.
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:00.240
Oh, no, it's supposed to be lower.
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:00.559
Sorry.
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:01.359
You were saying lower.
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:02.480
We were saying lower.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:02.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:04.799
I thought we were supposed to rank them all three.
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:05.279
I didn't understand.
00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:06.000
No, no, no.
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:06.240
Sorry.
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:06.480
Okay.
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:06.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:10.160
There was no way Hunger Games would be the lowest out of these three.
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:10.799
Yes.
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.839
But which is the lowest?
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:12.799
Okay.
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:13.519
They were close.
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:14.240
That's why I was like, yeah.
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:16.720
Wow.
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:17.759
There's your surpriser.
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:18.000
Yeah.
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:18.319
Yeah.
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:18.720
Okay.
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.519
Gotta remember, Bridget Terry Bithia is more artsy.
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:22.000
Yes.
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.319
Gotta remember our gotta remember our guiding like the arts, the artsy farts.
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.880
They picked Tarantino, they picked Bridge Terry Bithia.
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:29.920
All right, I'm gonna keep that in mind.
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:34.640
Higher on this one, Friday the 13th, a nightmare on Elm Street, or Scream.
00:26:34.799 -->
00:26:35.279
Scream.
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:36.480
Ooh, Scream.
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:45.359
I'm gonna pick Scream as the highest one, but I wonder how much historical importance factors into people's letterbox ratings.
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.119
Friday, then nightmare.
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.720
Because all of these are like seminal the godfathers of slasher movies, right?
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:53.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:57.279
Um throw Halloween in here, and this is the Pantheon.
00:26:57.519 --> 00:26:58.640
I think Halloween might beat.
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.559
If Halloween were on here, I think it would beat all.
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:01.599
I think it would beat all three.
00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:04.079
I'm picking Scream because movie snobs.
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.039
They like to be smart and they like to pick self-referential things.
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:07.680
That's why.
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.440
Yeah, I'm gonna say Scream.
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.279
It is indeed Scream.
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:11.519
Yeah.
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:12.000
Yay.
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:12.640
Well done.
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:13.279
Awesome.
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.319
Oh, but Friday 13th is below Nightmare.
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:17.440
I didn't think that would be the case.
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:17.839
It wasn't.
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:18.720
I did.
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.319
I mean, it is a weaker film.
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:25.279
I just thought that people the nightmares get so campy so fast.
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:25.839
Yep.
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.920
But that is fun, I suppose.
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:28.480
All right.
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:33.039
Lowest between Resident Evil, the old one, and Super Mario Bros.
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:33.920
The old one.
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:36.079
Oh man.
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:37.440
We can't do the new ones.
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:39.599
Okay.
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:40.160
Oh.
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:46.400
Well, the original Resident Evil versus the original Super Mario Bros.
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:47.200
Mario Bros.
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.279
Well, here's my reasoning.
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:49.920
Okay.
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:55.680
The Resident Evil movie got like 300 sequels and Super Mario Bros.
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:56.400
got nothing.
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:58.640
So I'm going to say Mario is the lower.
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:06.880
I will say Mario's lower, but I have never seen a YouTube video that says, you know, actually, Resident Evil 1 is an undiscovered classic.
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:08.400
And people say that about Mario Bros.
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.680
They say that about Mario.
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:10.160
They do.
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:10.640
You're right.
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:11.759
But I'm going to pick Mario.
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:12.000
All right.
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:12.319
Okay.
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:13.039
Mario's lower.
00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:13.440
Lower.
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:14.640
Mario is indeed lower.
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:15.039
Okay.
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:15.759
Well, go to the show.
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.000
I mean, it is a terrible movie.
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.839
There are fun things about it.
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:22.319
Yes.
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.079
But it is just a terrible movie.
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:25.200
That movie's crazy.
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.359
I saw that with my brother opening night.
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:28.319
No, you didn't.
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.519
That must have been a crazy movie theater experience, though.
00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:31.680
Yes.
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:32.559
Oh, I would have loved that.
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.920
And we, even as kids, were like, what?
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.720
Those aren't Goombas?
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:39.119
No.
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:39.680
Yeah.
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:41.599
That's Yoshi?
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.079
What?
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:43.119
I love it.
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:43.839
Alright.
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.039
This is for Hire.
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:46.319
Spirited Away.
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:47.680
Princess Mononoke.
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:49.200
Oh my gosh.
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:51.599
Um both of them.
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:53.119
Excellent films.
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:59.519
Spirited Away is the modern day Alice in Wonderland.
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:04.000
I think it is a classic that is going to be remembered forever.
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.279
And Princess Mononoke is a really good movie.
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.279
So I'm going to say Spirit It Away.
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.519
I have the same choice, but different argument.
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:11.920
Okay.
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:13.839
Mononoke is my favorite.
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:14.240
Yes.
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.000
Of all Miyazaki films.
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:17.920
But you can't show it to your kids.
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:19.119
I mean, you can.
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:20.240
I showed it to my kids.
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:24.079
But it's got heads getting chopped off and it's not as approachable.
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.799
It's not as approachable, and Spirit Away won the Oscar.
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:27.039
Yeah.
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:28.480
So I'm picking Spirited Away.
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:29.039
Okay.
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.960
I think you both, yeah, you're both picking it.
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:31.599
You're correct.
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.920
Spirited Away is the one by just a hair.
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.480
I was curious if your anime knowledge was there.
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:36.880
Yeah.
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.039
4.4 and 4.43.
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:40.319
So very much.
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.279
Okay, the only movie I can think of that I've seen twice in the theaters.
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:46.559
Oh, yes, I did notice.
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.680
Right, because I didn't know when I would ever be able to see it again.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.319
Right.
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:58.160
I know that Dawn and I, and I think you went and saw it at some White House Theater in Salt Lake City.
00:29:58.240 --> 00:29:58.799
Yep, I saw it.
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:03.759
Because there was nowhere else to I saw it by myself because Jordo said I went in, there were three people in the theater.
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:04.400
It was just me.
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.720
One of the only movies I've just gone to by myself, because I trusted Jordo on this.
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.880
I saw it, I came back, I got you guys, and I said, You need to see this whilst in theaters.
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:13.359
Who knows?
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.599
Yeah, when you'll ever have a chance to see it again.
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:16.160
Yep.
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:16.880
Alrighty.
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:17.119
Okay.
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.440
Heat or reservoir dogs.
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:20.799
Heat and reservoir dogs.
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.359
Reservoir Dogs is lower.
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:23.920
What?
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:24.400
Really?
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:24.960
Yeah.
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:25.920
Mm-hmm.
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:26.400
I do.
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.200
Reservoir Dogs has the Tarantino bump.
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:29.680
Yeah.
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.839
But it is like his first movie.
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:38.240
And I'm going to say, as a fan, it's his weakest movie.
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:38.640
Okay.
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:43.519
Whereas Heat is, again, a beloved by everyone episode.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:44.160
You know what?
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:44.640
You're right.
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:44.880
All right.
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.240
I'm going with Reservoir Dogs.
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:47.440
You are both correct.
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:48.640
I was wondering if I get too much.
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:49.839
Thank you for the argument, Dan.
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:50.799
You persuaded me.
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.119
I was immediately going to go with the Tarantito bump.
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:53.920
But yeah.
00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:54.319
Yeah.
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:54.960
Good argument.
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:55.440
All right.
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:56.400
Which one's higher?
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.359
Avatar, endgame, or Titanic?
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:00.160
Oh my god.
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.920
Out of these three mega sellers, who got the highest rating?
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I think it is going to be Titanic.
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That's kind of where I'm leaning.
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Okay.
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Argument being that Titanic, if you're just looking at pure filmmaking, Titanic, I think, is the strongest in the filmmaking, and I think it'll be viewed that way.
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Now, which of those am I going to go watch?
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If you ask me tonight, it's going to be Endgame.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, Return of the King got rated higher just because it's a crowd pleaser and Endgame is such a crowd pleaser.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, all of these are, right?
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Yes.
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These are some of the most successful movies of all time.
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See, the problem is I think all three of these are in the category of I'm kind of embarrassed to like this.
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If you're a film snob, you know.
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Okay.
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And I think because it is not a fantasy, I think the film snob will be less embarrassed to like Titanic.
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That's where I think to like Avatar.
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If it's Avatar, then he just totally got us.
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I'm picking Titanic.
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Titanic for both of you?
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Yeah.
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It is indeed Avengers.
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Oh, it's Avengers.
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I think recency bias is what boosts it up.
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Yeah, probably.
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I mean, it is a really good crowd pleaser, right?
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And it is something that will probably never happen again in film.
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Yep.
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And I Avengers Endgame deserves an Oscar based on like a new category of we're giving this Oscar for doing something that film has never done and can never do again.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Right?
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And you just call it that Oscar.
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It seems like it's Snow White Oscar.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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This is something special achievement.
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Special achievement.
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We'll end on this one.
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Okay.
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Because if we do it again, I'll just hang on to the rest.
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We'll end on it's War of the Worlds or Cats.
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The worst-ranked movie between these two.
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Okay.
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I will say, despite the fact that War of the Worlds is so much better, I think it has the lower rating.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Tough one.
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I think that the film snobs are going to pick cats because they want to hate on the director.
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Because he won an Academore Award for the previous one and then he followed this up.
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And sometimes expectations could be.
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I like that.
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So I'm picking cats.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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The first people to see cats went into it expecting it to be good.
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Expecting to win an Oscar.
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And nobody thought that about War of the Worlds.
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War of the Worlds.
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Yep.
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Ice Cube.
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War of the Worlds.
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War of the Worlds is worse by only a small percentage.
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I win.
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Yep.
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I'll do the math.
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What did we do?
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All right.
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Let me let me tally up some.
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See, you were you were weak at the beginning, but then you came back strong in the middle.
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It's because I was trying to second guess everything.
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Yeah.
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And then at the end, I'm like, no, I gotta think.
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I hold on.
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Did you tie?
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What?
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Oh, you guys totally tied.
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Okay, I've got another tiebreaker.
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Do another tiebreaker.
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Tiebreaker.
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All right.
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Tiebreaker is who's higher?
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G.I.
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Joe The Rise of Cobra or the My Little Pony movie.
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My Little Pony movie is higher.
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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Hmm.
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I have not seen either of these movies.
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I know you have.
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I didn't expect either of you to this one.
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I've not seen an episode of My Little Pony, and I have not seen even the first G.I.
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Joe.
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That is the first one.
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That's why I was like, I'm going to gut check you guys.
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Wait, no.
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Oh, yeah, I guess it is.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I'm picking My Little Power.
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I haven't seen My Little Pony.
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Then you need to pick the other one.
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I think I have to pick G.I.
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Joe.
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Okay.
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Because I know My Little Pony has its staunch defenders, right?
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And I know that the TV show is an empirically good show.
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I'm just arguing that everyone took their kids and that they had a good time because it was a family film.
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I think it's too niche.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I say Rise if G.I.
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Joe beats it.
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Okay.
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My Little Pony is the better movie.
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Oh, and by a point.
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By a full point.
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See, I kind of railroaded you into picking that by me quickly jumping on My Little Pony.
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So No, you're fine.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Well, Brandon wins by the Bronies.
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So thanks, Bronies.
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That's the letterbox challenge.
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Well done, Brandon.
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Good job.
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Okay, now we need the Rotten Tomatoes Challenge.
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Okay.
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I can do Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We need Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score Challenge.
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Yeah, audience score.
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We wouldn't do that.
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Uh-huh.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Audience score.
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That's going to be so much harder.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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We'll do that one next.
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But that's what I've got.
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Well done.
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Awesome.
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Donald?
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Yes.
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This is a really good idea.
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Thank you.
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That was a lot of fun to talk about.
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I thought you might like this one.
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So well done.
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We're going to give you extra rations of gruel tonight.
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Yes.
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I need my protein.
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How's that, Ben?