Fuld transskription af Forgotten Frights Ep. 14: The Horror of Dracula (1958)

newest, best, only one. 00:05:43.856 --> 00:05:46.036 Technicolor. Newest only. 00:05:46.516 --> 00:05:53.096 Yeah. What? Yeah, what is the, I'm going to mess it up, but the Lionel Hutz, 00:05:53.596 --> 00:05:58.676 no, money down, from The Simpsons. 00:05:58.796 --> 00:06:03.976 Okay, this one starts with an ellipsis. There's a lot of ellipses in these old taglines. 00:06:04.076 --> 00:06:09.076 So this is dot, dot, dot, now she's one of the dead-alive brides of Dracula. 00:06:10.676 --> 00:06:15.536 Yeah, that happens quite a few times, actually. It does, it happens a couple times in the film. 00:06:15.896 --> 00:06:18.136 There's a lot of them. So I'm just kind of going through them. 00:06:18.316 --> 00:06:20.256 I'm just going to get your impression. Feel free. 00:06:20.916 --> 00:06:24.316 This is three of, oh no, this is four of like 10. 00:06:25.536 --> 00:06:30.076 Sensational shock and thrill show. That's another tagline. That's very generic. 00:06:30.376 --> 00:06:32.736 The one before that you said there was an ellipsis before? 00:06:33.196 --> 00:06:37.056 At the very start. Do you think the word before that was, hey? 00:06:38.736 --> 00:06:41.236 Actually, going back to the one that says- Some guy trying to get your attention. 00:06:42.216 --> 00:06:46.896 That's exactly what I was going to say about the tagline that says, Dracula, newest, best. 00:06:47.136 --> 00:06:51.836 It's almost like somebody's screaming it in a crowd and you're only catching those words. 00:06:52.276 --> 00:06:56.796 Dracula, newest, best. Like those are- Yeah. He's got Dracula hand puppets, 00:06:56.956 --> 00:06:58.276 Dracula ice cream sandwiches. 00:06:58.576 --> 00:07:01.196 I mean, he's just like, you have to see this. Listen, buddy, 00:07:01.276 --> 00:07:05.276 I've got Dracula hands. I took out a mortgage at my house for this. 00:07:07.574 --> 00:07:13.034 This one's good, too. Every night he rises from his coffin bed silently to seek 00:07:13.034 --> 00:07:18.494 the soft flesh, the warm blood he needs to keep himself alive. 00:07:18.894 --> 00:07:22.854 I think that one is the best one that really encapsulates the movie. 00:07:23.034 --> 00:07:25.094 So I think I think it fits the yeah, the atmosphere. 00:07:25.394 --> 00:07:30.394 Yeah. OK, so there's more of them because this film was this film was like a 00:07:30.394 --> 00:07:32.634 double feature with a lot of other films. 00:07:32.634 --> 00:07:35.534 And one of the films it was a double feature with, it seems often, 00:07:35.714 --> 00:07:41.054 was The Curse of Frankenstein, a movie we previously reviewed. 00:07:41.314 --> 00:07:44.174 Oh, yeah. So these two movies would come out. 00:07:44.254 --> 00:07:48.834 I would assume the drive-in or they would be at like a temple theater type thing 00:07:48.834 --> 00:07:51.774 as like a double showing when those were hip. 00:07:52.514 --> 00:07:56.574 We have Frankenstein spills it. Dracula drinks it. 00:07:56.774 --> 00:08:01.514 In the screen's

greatest double creature feature, double bill with The Curse of Frankenstein. 00:08:03.934 --> 00:08:09.034 They never talk about blood no they it could be juice could be juice could be 00:08:09.034 --> 00:08:16.974 booze it'd be vodka yeah bella lugosi no boris carloff sorry could be a lemon lime little hug, 00:08:17.814 --> 00:08:22.014 actually a film we previously reviewed and discussed but a launch any jr in 00:08:22.014 --> 00:08:27.734 the haunted castle the haunted palace yeah i was called the haunted castle yeah 00:08:27.734 --> 00:08:30.954 that is so funny that But in that episode, 00:08:30.954 --> 00:08:33.814 I could not remember the name of it, and I kept calling it The Haunted Castle, 00:08:33.854 --> 00:08:37.234 and you kept correcting me that it was The Haunted Palace, and you just did it again. 00:08:39.374 --> 00:08:42.594 I don't remember ever doing that, but yeah. I could not remember. 00:08:42.594 --> 00:08:46.654 I was like, the darkest place on earth, and you're like, it's The Haunted Palace. 00:08:47.854 --> 00:08:53.534 But Lon Chaney Jr. is in that movie, and he looks like he spills it and drinks it. 00:08:53.734 --> 00:08:57.394 Oh, yeah. He looks pretty rough. He looks pretty bloated in that movie. 00:08:57.854 --> 00:09:02.274 Okay, this is another one. A double dose of full color thrills. 00:09:02.794 --> 00:09:05.934 Double bill with the Curse of Frankenstein. Yeah, I mean, yeah. 00:09:07.074 --> 00:09:12.014 Christopher Lee's fangtastic first ever performance as the Lord of the Undead. 00:09:12.234 --> 00:09:15.414 Fangtastic got me. Every time. Just a few more. 00:09:15.814 --> 00:09:21.154 The chill of the tomb won't leave your blood for hours after you come face to face with Dracula. 00:09:22.194 --> 00:09:25.614 Okay. Yeah. I don't know if hours was the right word. 00:09:25.614 --> 00:09:28.594 Like i don't know just like it'll stay 00:09:28.594 --> 00:09:33.154 with you for a while like yeah hours is like oh yeah i feel better now the chill 00:09:33.154 --> 00:09:35.974 of the tomb won't leave your blood for hours for hours okay so if you watch 00:09:35.974 --> 00:09:40.634 it at seven by nine yeah i can go right to sleep i'm fine now the chill's gone 00:09:40.634 --> 00:09:46.494 that was the other tagline i'm fine now the terrifying lover who died yet lived. 00:09:50.090 --> 00:09:55.170 And finally, who will be his bride tonight? It's probably more like, 00:09:55.450 --> 00:09:56.970 who will be his bride tonight? 00:09:57.690 --> 00:09:59.970 Or just, who will be his bride tonight? Yeah, but just the bride. 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:01.770 I mean, that sounds kind of nice. Yeah. 00:10:03.090 --> 00:10:05.590 Why don't we get into it, Adam? Why don't we get into the film? 00:10:06.430 --> 00:10:07.810 This is an interesting one. 00:10:08.090 --> 00:10:15.350 I think we have some of definitely like the Curse of Frankenstein adaptation. 00:10:16.030 --> 00:10:19.190 I don't know if we want to call those issues

right off the bat, 00:10:19.350 --> 00:10:26.170 but I think it's, you know, these early Hammer horror productions seem very slow. 00:10:26.190 --> 00:10:31.670 I think they really leaned into the gothic themes. 00:10:31.850 --> 00:10:37.210 We've discussed that before, but very much like the slow build and then the 00:10:37.210 --> 00:10:39.690 occasional gasps happening. 00:10:40.050 --> 00:10:45.210 They nailed the gothic part for sure. The set design was very cool. 00:10:45.350 --> 00:10:49.610 It was super foggy in a lot of the graveyard courtyard scenes. 00:10:49.790 --> 00:10:52.230 So that's, that's always appreciated. You know, you know what you're getting 00:10:52.230 --> 00:10:55.850 into when you watch these movies and it's like, okay, if the atmosphere is there, 00:10:56.050 --> 00:10:58.150 that's for me, it's half the battle. 00:10:59.170 --> 00:11:04.670 And this movie is, it's strange because part of it feels like a pretty close 00:11:04.670 --> 00:11:08.030 adaptation, but every once in a while they'll like be like, ah, 00:11:08.390 --> 00:11:09.350 you can change this a little bit. 00:11:09.670 --> 00:11:12.450 Yeah, we can. Yeah. And yeah, we can discuss that too. 00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:15.010 I should touch on, this is our spookiest episode. 00:11:16.090 --> 00:11:19.010 Yet because it's episode 13. Oh. 00:11:19.390 --> 00:11:22.130 And it's, yeah, we're doing The Curse of Dracula on episode 13. 00:11:22.350 --> 00:11:26.290 All right. Now, in honor of that, I'm going to crack this bubbly coconut pineapple. 00:11:26.870 --> 00:11:30.770 How's your orange cream over there, Adam? It is terrifyingly good. 00:11:31.690 --> 00:11:34.610 Yeah. You can taste the pineapple. Did I say it was warm? 00:11:34.730 --> 00:11:38.790 It's actually very dark clouds and thunderstorms. It's not a beautiful July 00:11:38.790 --> 00:11:40.870 day. It's not full sun. It's hurting my eyes. 00:11:41.310 --> 00:11:44.410 Did you want me to close the drape? Oh, no, no, no. Is this comfortable? 00:11:44.610 --> 00:11:47.270 Yeah. We're looking at the greenery outside. It's great. 00:11:47.730 --> 00:11:50.690 It's like, oh, I love recording at your house, too, because we're sitting there 00:11:50.690 --> 00:11:54.310 having these conversations about just horrifying, and it's just like this beautiful 00:11:54.310 --> 00:11:55.350 greenery out your window. 00:11:56.030 --> 00:11:59.610 No, the barn kind of looks like the haunted castle from that movie we watched. 00:11:59.730 --> 00:12:01.290 The haunted palace. Oh, that's right. 00:12:02.310 --> 00:12:06.190 Ah, now I, the other hand is on the other foot. That's right. 00:12:06.190 --> 00:12:07.590 The other foot is on the other hand. 00:12:08.439 --> 00:12:11.079 And then I also want to touch on before we get into the movie, 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:15.239 because I feel like I'm stalling now at this point, but we have about 200 downloads 00:12:15.239 --> 00:12:16.819 on Podbean, which is pretty cool. 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:22.919 And then on YouTube, we have about 500, just crossed 500 views with some of those. 00:12:23.059 --> 00:12:26.219 It seems like Twice Told Tales seems to be a very popular episode. 00:12:26.219 --> 00:12:30.399 I don't know why, but it's got that one's cracked about 100 views itself. 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.439 So, yeah, we're kind of moving along. And then I've just been trying to monitor 00:12:33.439 --> 00:12:35.279 some of the other downloads and things. 00:12:35.419 --> 00:12:38.099 But it seems like, yeah, you know, to get some downloads, which is good. 00:12:38.099 --> 00:12:42.759 And we don't advertise this at all. And I think that's kind of the way to do it. 00:12:42.939 --> 00:12:47.099 I like kind of just being able to post it and let it do its own thing. 00:12:47.199 --> 00:12:49.639 And I'm not, you know, harping on it on social media all the time. 00:12:49.839 --> 00:12:52.039 Listen to us. Yeah. We're great. 00:12:52.299 --> 00:12:56.559 I mean, obviously, both you and I are doing this because we have a passion for movies. 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.519 And if anybody's getting anything out of these podcasts, then that's awesome. 00:13:00.719 --> 00:13:04.579 Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I had a previous podcast where a friend of mine said, 00:13:04.699 --> 00:13:09.039 would often remark, There are more people on your podcast than those who listen 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.179 to it, which was entirely true. 00:13:12.499 --> 00:13:15.079 So right now, that's not true. Yeah. 00:13:15.419 --> 00:13:18.879 Now I'm fighting back with Forgotten Frights. 00:13:19.499 --> 00:13:24.079 All right. So getting into the horror of Dracula, we've got Jonathan Harker 00:13:24.079 --> 00:13:32.079 arrives at Castle Dracula in Klausenberg to take his spot as the castle or the town librarian. 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:36.719 Or is it a castle or is it a palace? No, I don't know. It's Castle Dracula. 00:13:36.899 --> 00:13:40.699 It is, yeah. It's not the haunted palace of Dracula. It's not Palace Dracula, 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:42.199 no? Yeah, the Castle Dracula. 00:13:42.459 --> 00:13:46.039 So he's taking his spot as the librarian, which I thought was kind of interesting. 00:13:47.139 --> 00:13:49.799 Because it seems like if he's going to do that, why is he talking to Dracula? 00:13:51.119 --> 00:13:55.239 But he's like, curate my books. I guess, yeah. 00:13:55.459 --> 00:13:59.639 I don't know. That's wildly different than the original story there. 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:06.319 Yeah, because the original story, we've got Harker shows up. after Renfield. 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.779 And he's doing some estate work. I'm going to move my phone over here because 00:14:11.779 --> 00:14:13.279 I feel like I got a little zip. 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.519 He's doing estate work for Dracula. I think he's getting him a new, 00:14:16.899 --> 00:14:18.659 not a parsonage, but what am I thinking of? 00:14:19.439 --> 00:14:22.959

I think he's... House over in London. Yeah, like an abbey. An abbey, yeah. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.879 So he's moving there. So yeah, they're just, for whatever reason in this adaptation, 00:14:27.079 --> 00:14:31.179 they're like, nah, he's gonna... He's just a librarian. He's a librarian. He's doing that. 00:14:31.659 --> 00:14:35.079 So once he gets there, he immediately meets a woman who needs his help. 00:14:35.359 --> 00:14:38.659 I believe he finds a note in the beginning that says, like, I can't join you. 00:14:38.859 --> 00:14:42.859 It's a note from Dracula. It's like, I can't join you, but, you know, help yourself to this. 00:14:43.219 --> 00:14:48.119 You know, hang out in my castle and, you know, I'll be there for dinner or something 00:14:48.119 --> 00:14:52.219 like that. He has a cloche with some food and he's, like, go ahead and grab 00:14:52.219 --> 00:14:57.099 a bite to eat and he does and then he knocks something off the table and then 00:14:57.099 --> 00:14:58.159 he looks up and there's the lady. 00:14:58.359 --> 00:15:01.519 Yes, and then she is like, you have to help me. 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.579 Please, save me. And then Christopher Lee arrives and, 00:15:06.324 --> 00:15:09.464 Harker, I think, tells her, yes, I'll do my best to help you. 00:15:09.964 --> 00:15:13.544 Christopher Lee arrives and gets him to his room. This is where we find out 00:15:13.544 --> 00:15:16.364 that Harker is actually a vampire hunter. 00:15:17.084 --> 00:15:21.344 Again, yeah, just... Kind of interesting that they went this route with it. 00:15:21.744 --> 00:15:24.504 That confused me. Yeah, so they know about vampires? 00:15:25.744 --> 00:15:31.044 So, yeah, he's pretty up on that stuff, which is vampire lore. 00:15:31.044 --> 00:15:35.924 And Peter Cushing, who we'll find as Van Helsing, was just training him to be 00:15:35.924 --> 00:15:39.904 what ostensibly is the worst vampire hunter of all time. 00:15:40.284 --> 00:15:44.304 He's real bad. He's not good at his job. Yeah, he makes some serious missteps. 00:15:44.364 --> 00:15:47.264 I would say, yeah, he was, yeah, yeah, so. 00:15:47.944 --> 00:15:51.644 Yeah, but he's immediately talking about how he's like, I'm going to get this 00:15:51.644 --> 00:15:53.524 SOB. And it's just like, wait a second. 00:15:53.744 --> 00:15:56.664 And he's Dracula. So we already know about other vampires? 00:15:57.044 --> 00:16:00.304 Yeah, and Van Helsing is not, like, this is young Peter Cushing. 00:16:00.304 --> 00:16:03.484 So this isn't like old man Van Helsing who needs help. 00:16:03.864 --> 00:16:08.544 Like, please go kill Dracula. It's more like for your first assignment, 00:16:08.544 --> 00:16:10.324 you're going to go kill Dracula. 00:16:10.764 --> 00:16:15.024 Yeah. That's like sending a top secret agent to be like the first, 00:16:15.084 --> 00:16:18.164 your first job in the CIA is to infiltrate the Kremlin. 00:16:18.464 --> 00:16:22.644 Yeah. It's like, we need you to take down, take down James Bond and then we'll 00:16:22.644 --> 00:16:25.524 go on to the, the harder, the harder things. 00:16:25.524 --> 00:16:29.124 It's like if if odd job in 00:16:29.124 --> 00:16:32.624 a james bond his first job was 00:16:32.624 --> 00:16:35.604 to kill james bond and then he had to like figure everything 00:16:35.604 --> 00:16:38.724 out as he went very interesting but uh the 00:16:38.724 --> 00:16:41.484 woman appears again in castle dracula and she tries to this 00:16:41.484 --> 00:16:45.564 time kind of revealing that she is she's already vampiric 00:16:45.564 --> 00:16:48.244 now now before that dracula says hey i 00:16:48.244 --> 00:16:51.024 gotta leave for a little while so you go ahead 00:16:51.024 --> 00:16:54.524 and just use my house Mikasa Tsukasa you know just yeah you 00:16:54.524 --> 00:16:57.504 know but I'm not gonna be around so this is 00:16:57.504 --> 00:17:00.364 where we here's the key to the library all this yeah yeah so yeah 00:17:00.364 --> 00:17:03.644 he gives him the yeah the open uh invitation yep 00:17:03.644 --> 00:17:06.704 and this is where we get the first sense and something I'm 00:17:06.704 --> 00:17:10.184 going to talk about as we discuss the film Dracula doesn't 00:17:10.184 --> 00:17:12.944 really have any powers and he's definitely just a dude 00:17:12.944 --> 00:17:15.964 walking around that castle yeah he's uh 00:17:15.964 --> 00:17:19.144 and there are very specific examples that. 00:17:19.144 --> 00:17:22.064 I'd like to illustrate as we go but yeah he because he 00:17:22.064 --> 00:17:25.244 it's it's very it's very 1958 so everything's 00:17:25.244 --> 00:17:28.084 already set heavy so dracula just like opens the 00:17:28.084 --> 00:17:31.564 door and i think a part of 00:17:31.564 --> 00:17:35.104 the issue here for me is having seen francis ford 00:17:35.104 --> 00:17:39.944 coppola's dracula which i think is like people harp on that film because of 00:17:39.944 --> 00:17:43.804 keanu reeves and rightly so you know who's a winona writer and they're doing 00:17:43.804 --> 00:17:51.404 these very like posh stage English accents but a film that just absolutely nails 00:17:51.404 --> 00:17:54.324 atmosphere and like sensuality and like. 00:17:54.945 --> 00:17:58.645 Like Dracula is like floating from room to room pretty much. 00:17:58.645 --> 00:18:00.325 He's very like ethereal. 00:18:00.585 --> 00:18:04.625 He's got costume changes. Costume changes. He never seems to be like, 00:18:04.885 --> 00:18:07.905 you know, his shadow's moving around him. Chris Verley, he's just like. 00:18:08.445 --> 00:18:11.685 Yeah. Hello. Here, let me get those bags for you. Seriously. 00:18:11.745 --> 00:18:13.005 He like carries the luggage. 00:18:13.485 --> 00:18:18.405 He opens all the doors. He opens all the doors. The thing, I've never seen Dracula open a door. 00:18:18.605 --> 00:18:23.725 So I will say though, part of that I appreciate because things have gone so 00:18:23.725 --> 00:18:29.585 off

the rails in the last, you know, 80 years, whatever, where it's like vampires 00:18:29.585 --> 00:18:31.785 are these crazy, you know, and I get it. 00:18:31.945 --> 00:18:37.005 He is a supernatural being, but it's like, also, it doesn't have to be, 00:18:37.185 --> 00:18:39.845 everything doesn't have to be over the top. Yeah. Crazy scary either. 00:18:39.985 --> 00:18:43.625 I kind of like the fact that he like has to open the door. He really does. 00:18:43.805 --> 00:18:47.605 Yeah. And he just, yeah, he, it's, I think it's definitely interesting. 00:18:47.605 --> 00:18:50.205 I think it's a, it's an interesting interpretation. 00:18:50.565 --> 00:18:57.305 I like to imagine that that, that kind of writer's room, or that pitch the director 00:18:57.305 --> 00:19:02.345 had to make was definitely something to the level of like, what are you going to do different? 00:19:02.545 --> 00:19:04.705 He's like, Dracula's going to open doors. 00:19:05.825 --> 00:19:08.685 He's carrying the luggage. He's going to be riding the carriage. 00:19:09.765 --> 00:19:13.145 He might be driving it. He might even be. We don't know. 00:19:13.785 --> 00:19:18.805 So the woman tries to bite this vampiric woman that shows up again. 00:19:19.565 --> 00:19:22.665 Yeah, she reveals herself to be that. She's like, oh, you know, 00:19:22.745 --> 00:19:24.905 this drac's a real jerk. You got to get me out of here. Yeah. 00:19:25.265 --> 00:19:30.485 Then she tries to bite Harker, and then Drack comes in through the window, and he is mad. 00:19:31.065 --> 00:19:36.005 So he, like, is it, I think, yeah, he appears on, like, top of the stairs, right? 00:19:36.045 --> 00:19:40.385 At the top of the stairs. And he's, like, and they both look up, and he's just, like. 00:19:41.125 --> 00:19:43.325 He didn't come through the window that time? I don't think so. 00:19:43.385 --> 00:19:45.165 Okay. I thought he did come through the window, and he had, like, 00:19:45.225 --> 00:19:48.265 blood on his mouth. He's, like, already doing other stuff. Oh, was he? Okay. 00:19:48.545 --> 00:19:50.385 Because I just remember he was at the top of the stairs. Maybe he did. 00:19:50.645 --> 00:19:55.845 Yeah. I just feel like I'm fully immersed in this idea that he was just like, hey. 00:19:56.025 --> 00:19:59.465 He's just always by a doorway, and he's always just opening it. 00:20:00.527 --> 00:20:03.207 Well, he's at the top of the stairs and it was poorly, like, 00:20:03.287 --> 00:20:06.407 it was poorly recorded. And he's like, what are you guys doing down there? 00:20:07.067 --> 00:20:09.887 Oh, no, no. He came through the window and he's like, hey, somebody unlock that 00:20:09.887 --> 00:20:13.507 from the inside. Cause I, I forgot my kid. I'm having a hard time. 00:20:13.867 --> 00:20:17.587 Hey, what are you guys talking about? So he comes running down the stairs, 00:20:18.587 --> 00:20:22.147 throws, throws her like, you know, a few feet. 00:20:23.007 --> 00:20:27.107 Stakes his claim. I'm the, I'm the drack of the house and sends her off. Yep. 00:20:27.887 --> 00:20:31.727 Harker has been bit on the neck. So it does turn out that she bit him and he 00:20:31.727 --> 00:20:36.247 knocks her out and then he carries the lady away and then Harker wakes up and he's got Bymar. Yes. 00:20:37.327 --> 00:20:42.407 And so then I think it's kind of within now we're at a point where he's like, 00:20:42.587 --> 00:20:44.527 I, you know, I'm going to turn into a vampire. 00:20:45.127 --> 00:20:48.487 I'm gonna. So therefore I need to take care of this now before I turn. 00:20:48.747 --> 00:20:52.507 And he's got that working knowledge of how vampires work. Yeah. 00:20:52.807 --> 00:20:57.107 Already. Like it's, you know, so they've been dealing with these things for a long time. 00:20:57.107 --> 00:21:00.367 I think it's just a weird it's that yeah i 00:21:00.367 --> 00:21:03.267 mean we can get to it but it's weird that he is like 00:21:03.267 --> 00:21:06.927 i have to ingratiate myself by being the librarian but he 00:21:06.927 --> 00:21:11.147 has a working knowledge of being a vampire hunter so much so that he's been 00:21:11.147 --> 00:21:16.887 sent to kill the vampire he brought pre-sharpened steaks with him i mean okay 00:21:16.887 --> 00:21:20.907 but he shows up and he's like wouldn't you just like i don't know if you're 00:21:20.907 --> 00:21:24.787 a vampire hunter just like break into the house during the daytime and then 00:21:24.787 --> 00:21:26.387 just take care of business Yeah. 00:21:26.747 --> 00:21:30.367 You know, like I would, the last thing I would do as a vampire hunter is like, 00:21:30.567 --> 00:21:32.487 well, I got to go try to be friends with Dracula first. 00:21:32.707 --> 00:21:36.607 Like that's such a bad idea, right? Maybe in like two weeks I'll try the steak. 00:21:38.447 --> 00:21:43.207 As long as he doesn't turn me into a thrall, use one of his like thralls to 00:21:43.207 --> 00:21:45.527 kill me. Yeah. Seduce me in some way. 00:21:45.807 --> 00:21:48.967 He's got all these doors to open. Yes. That sweet zip line. 00:21:50.387 --> 00:21:54.047 Now, if he had had a zip line at the top of the stairs and he came flying around, 00:21:54.347 --> 00:21:55.267 perfect Straight for Dracula. 00:21:56.647 --> 00:22:00.167 So Harker then goes and he finds the woman who bit him. 00:22:00.327 --> 00:22:05.707 Oh, this is after. So he's put his journal down by like the road in like a kind 00:22:05.707 --> 00:22:08.767 of like a rock face for the villagers to find. 00:22:09.087 --> 00:22:13.067 And then he goes up and he says, I'm going to kill Dracula. And he goes in, 00:22:13.767 --> 00:22:17.847 finds Dracula's tomb under the castle and stakes the woman. 00:22:18.467 --> 00:22:23.327 Well, he sees both the woman and Dracula's coffins. 00:22:23.567 --> 00:22:28.687 Yes. This is where I believe one of the first glaring instances of him being 00:22:28.687 --> 00:22:35.267 a bad vampire hunter is that he has

the Lord of the vampires and then he has 00:22:35.267 --> 00:22:39.467 a lady who is under the vampires control and he's like, I'm going to take this lady out. Yeah. 00:22:39.747 --> 00:22:42.167 First. Yep. Yeah. Very strange. 00:22:42.687 --> 00:22:46.267 And then she turns into the old lady from room 237 in the shining. 00:22:47.447 --> 00:22:51.087 Is that the same lady? I think it was. I think it was too. Yeah. 00:22:51.975 --> 00:22:56.615 I like that she, if you, I don't know if you caught this, but every vampire 00:22:56.615 --> 00:22:59.655 in the movie, in the coffin, they all had a pillow. 00:22:59.995 --> 00:23:04.235 Oh yeah, they were resting. There was dirt that they were laying in and then there's the pillow. 00:23:04.675 --> 00:23:08.095 Well, yeah. So there probably was like a specific kind of pillow too. 00:23:08.295 --> 00:23:09.575 Yeah. Dracula's recommendation. 00:23:10.455 --> 00:23:13.715 If you want to wake up with a sore neck. Temporbleedic. 00:23:15.135 --> 00:23:19.975 That's exactly what it was. And he's a bad guy, so he got it from that Mr. Pillow guy. 00:23:20.875 --> 00:23:23.735 The MyPillow guy? Oh, MyPillow. Yeah. Mr. Pillow, whatever. 00:23:24.655 --> 00:23:28.235 Mr. Pillow's way better. I did Dallas Haunted Castle. Yeah. Tomato, tomato. 00:23:29.335 --> 00:23:32.875 It's better. It's actually better that I remember him as Mr. Pillow. 00:23:34.035 --> 00:23:38.975 All right. So then one of my, another favorite moment, Dracula catches Harker 00:23:38.975 --> 00:23:44.155 killing, staking the lady and he slams the door behind him angrily. 00:23:44.275 --> 00:23:46.875 He does. He does. Yeah. And it fades to black. 00:23:47.315 --> 00:23:49.195 Well, he disappears out of his coffin. 00:23:49.975 --> 00:23:53.835 And then he comes back into the door. So what was he doing? He was just doing 00:23:53.835 --> 00:23:56.355 a grand entrance. He's like, I open doors. 00:23:58.115 --> 00:24:01.995 So he woke up because Harker staked the girl. 00:24:02.595 --> 00:24:06.655 He saw him doing that. He jumped out of his coffin. He ran into the hallway. 00:24:07.035 --> 00:24:10.395 And then he like peeked around the corner and saw Harker turn around. 00:24:10.735 --> 00:24:13.195 And then he came back to the door and be like, aha. 00:24:14.575 --> 00:24:19.235 Now I'm here. He's like, I am. I am supernatural. he's just trying to like get 00:24:19.235 --> 00:24:24.095 him to how did i get here yeah okay give me give me one second, 00:24:24.755 --> 00:24:28.455 okay harker has been uh seemingly killed or 00:24:28.455 --> 00:24:31.735 punished by dracula we don't know but then 00:24:31.735 --> 00:24:34.635 we cut to the arrival of dr van 00:24:34.635 --> 00:24:37.435 helsing as played by peter cushing i say 00:24:37.435 --> 00:24:40.935 a colleague of harker but the i think he's the vampire 00:24:40.935 --> 00:24:44.175 trainer vampire hunter 00:24:44.175 --> 00:24:47.455 trainer yeah i guess yeah whatever of 00:24:47.455 --> 00:24:53.235 of that so he's arrived to investigate harker's disappearance which i assume 00:24:53.235 --> 00:25:01.435 he was sent him on that journey or task or mission to go kill dracula by himself 00:25:01.435 --> 00:25:05.635 which is crazy to me but he So he arrives in the town, 00:25:06.195 --> 00:25:10.175 That's just outside of Castle Dracula At an inn and he investigates there. 00:25:11.235 --> 00:25:15.995 Everybody's super cagey He asks for a meal, 00:25:16.495 --> 00:25:19.955 It's an undefined meal from beginning to end That's something that's stuck out 00:25:19.955 --> 00:25:23.335 Where it's just like get this man a meal And she's like your meal's ready I 00:25:23.335 --> 00:25:27.355 have no idea what that is That's probably just what it was back in the day Give 00:25:27.355 --> 00:25:30.455 me your best meal Can I see your menu and it just says meal. 00:25:31.295 --> 00:25:36.735 One gold coin and then Inga his server is because everybody else is kind of 00:25:36.735 --> 00:25:42.295 just shutting him out so she gives him Harker's diary and you know he's, 00:25:42.784 --> 00:25:45.724 basically she was getting the impression that she shouldn't talk to him, 00:25:45.844 --> 00:25:49.124 but she was just kind of giving some info. So that was good of her to do. 00:25:49.584 --> 00:25:53.884 Yeah. And it, um, I do like that. Like the, I've always liked when the, 00:25:53.884 --> 00:25:57.764 you know, the residents just outside of castle Dracula are, you know, 00:25:57.824 --> 00:26:01.124 they're scared and they're superstitious and, you know, they have every right 00:26:01.124 --> 00:26:02.024 to be, cause I'm sure people, 00:26:02.324 --> 00:26:07.044 you know, have been drained of their blood for years and years. Right. 00:26:07.224 --> 00:26:11.184 So they're kind of cagey and they're this, but Peter Cushing seems like a pretty 00:26:11.184 --> 00:26:17.444 intelligent fellow. So he's kind of, you know, like I'm here to to kill Dracula. 00:26:17.724 --> 00:26:22.184 You know, I'm here to, you know, rid you guys of this. But they still don't want to help him. 00:26:22.644 --> 00:26:28.024 But she gives him his meal, which has the book inside or has Harker's journal, 00:26:28.364 --> 00:26:33.284 not inside the meal, but inside of like a like a towel or a napkin that's next to it. 00:26:33.284 --> 00:26:42.144 And then Cushing is like, oh, he found Dracula and whoops, shouldn't have sent 00:26:42.144 --> 00:26:43.424 him to do that, I guess. I don't know. 00:26:44.024 --> 00:26:48.924 But Van Helsing then ventures, he arrives at Castle Dracula before he goes to the other town. 00:26:49.244 --> 00:26:54.204 He finds Lucy's portrait so he knows Harker's made it to Castle Dracula. 00:26:54.524 --> 00:26:59.624 Well, he finds the broken picture frame that had Lucy's portrait. 00:26:59.884 --> 00:27:03.104 Yes. Is the portrait gone? Portia's gone, because earlier, Drak's like, 00:27:03.364 --> 00:27:05.544 you mind if I look at your

wife? And Harker's like, sure. 00:27:05.804 --> 00:27:08.204 Well, that would make sense then. He's like, I know who I'm going after. 00:27:08.344 --> 00:27:09.664 Yeah. Because I have a picture of her. 00:27:10.304 --> 00:27:15.164 So Van Helsing finds Harker, who's now turned, resting peacefully on a pillow, 00:27:15.364 --> 00:27:19.684 in his coffin, and he mercifully kills him with a stake. 00:27:20.044 --> 00:27:25.284 Yes. It is then that Van Helsing ventures to the town of Karlstadt and informs 00:27:25.284 --> 00:27:27.784 Arthur and Mina of Harker's death. 00:27:27.784 --> 00:27:32.524 And so Arthur and Mina also appeared in the original Bram Stoker novel, 00:27:32.584 --> 00:27:35.784 but they were secondary characters. 00:27:37.032 --> 00:27:41.012 Well, Mina would be one of the more prominent characters, but Arthur was just 00:27:41.012 --> 00:27:46.152 a suitor to Lucy Westernos, who was Mina's best friend here. 00:27:46.172 --> 00:27:50.452 He's like one of the main characters. He's like he's Lucy's brother. 00:27:50.852 --> 00:27:54.872 Yes. And who I assume Jonathan Harker should have been in this movie. 00:27:55.232 --> 00:27:59.252 I mean, you know, he was. But I mean, yeah, he was a vampire hunter and he's 00:27:59.252 --> 00:28:02.212 got a risky job. And that's where I'm kind of like this. 00:28:02.472 --> 00:28:06.152 It's 58. So whatever. But like rewrites of this film would have made sense in 00:28:06.152 --> 00:28:10.572 like, OK, you make that that core group of characters. You've got Arthur, 00:28:10.752 --> 00:28:12.692 you've got Jonathan, you got Mina, you got Lucy. 00:28:12.912 --> 00:28:16.692 Make them all like vampire hunters that Van Helsing is training. 00:28:17.172 --> 00:28:20.972 And then the movie starts with Arthur going to the castle. And that way you 00:28:20.972 --> 00:28:25.072 still retain the Jonathan Harker, who is a I don't know, he seems like an important 00:28:25.072 --> 00:28:28.172 character that you don't want to just lose in the first 20 minutes of a film. 00:28:28.352 --> 00:28:31.652 But yeah, Hammer was like, we don't care. 00:28:32.332 --> 00:28:35.352 Yeah, I think so. I think it was just like, we don't care what the, 00:28:35.512 --> 00:28:40.132 as long as Van Helsing is the vampire hunter and as long as Dracula is the Dracula, 00:28:40.132 --> 00:28:42.052 we don't care where anybody else falls. 00:28:42.232 --> 00:28:46.412 Yeah. Which is interesting, I guess, because of, cause Hammer gets sequel crazy. 00:28:46.632 --> 00:28:50.212 There's like the, I was talking to you before, but the curse of Frankenstein 00:28:50.212 --> 00:28:51.692 has like, I don't even know. 00:28:51.772 --> 00:28:56.712 It was like five sequels or something or six or I, that might even be too few. 00:28:56.912 --> 00:29:00.912 There's just so many sequels. It just seems killing. well 00:29:00.912 --> 00:29:04.292 sequels is an interesting word because i feel like 00:29:04.292 --> 00:29:07.052 they they retain the whole like we're gonna have 00:29:07.052 --> 00:29:10.832 frankenstein in this movie again but they don't 00:29:10.832 --> 00:29:14.012 really have the same actor necessarily playing frankenstein they're 00:29:14.012 --> 00:29:19.332 not really going off the same it's not like a through line story so so interesting 00:29:19.332 --> 00:29:24.152 as far as i know the the cushion ones there are like four sequels that stay 00:29:24.152 --> 00:29:28.172 within line of the curse of frankenstein all right well maybe okay and then 00:29:28.172 --> 00:29:31.572 it eventually So he gets to like Frankenstein's brother, 00:29:31.972 --> 00:29:37.172 part seven, where it's like, I've just built a time machine and I have to go. 00:29:37.752 --> 00:29:41.772 Time machine meets Frankenstein. Yes. It's like Frankenstein in space. 00:29:42.392 --> 00:29:47.892 So Arthur and Mina are like mad at Van Helsing for being, he's cagey now about 00:29:47.892 --> 00:29:49.732 the death of Harker. Van Helsing? 00:29:49.872 --> 00:29:52.672 Yes. He's like, yeah, Jonathan died. 00:29:54.612 --> 00:30:01.972 I didn't just say. How did he die? from death reasons and also he was cremated by me. 00:30:02.912 --> 00:30:05.972 Yeah, now you said it was his first mission. What was going on? 00:30:06.092 --> 00:30:09.232 Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. He was successful. Just know that. 00:30:09.792 --> 00:30:14.592 I have here, it says Dracula flees to England and no doubt that dude was riding 00:30:14.592 --> 00:30:15.772 horseback the whole way. 00:30:16.852 --> 00:30:21.552 And then if he took a boat, he sailed it. Yeah. Through the evening. 00:30:22.232 --> 00:30:27.312 But I was seeking revenge because that both Harker and his other thrall were 00:30:27.312 --> 00:30:31.712 killed and so now he's like but I don't know if that's revenge or more so he 00:30:31.712 --> 00:30:34.652 just wants Mina I think he just Lucy, 00:30:35.628 --> 00:30:39.868 Yes, doesn't he? But, oh yeah, so it was Lucy's portrait. 00:30:40.288 --> 00:30:44.868 Yeah. Okay. Jonathan Harker and Lucy was his fiance. Oh, okay. 00:30:44.988 --> 00:30:50.368 Okay, so that still was confusing because then Mina was there with Arthur and then those two are... 00:30:50.928 --> 00:30:54.608 Married. Weird. Yes. Why do you think they did that? 00:30:54.828 --> 00:31:00.048 I believe Lucy was Harker's fiance in the original story. 00:31:00.248 --> 00:31:05.408 I think Mina was because it's Mina Harker. I think they changed that in Bram 00:31:05.408 --> 00:31:08.808 Stoker's Dracula in 91, and that's why. 00:31:09.108 --> 00:31:14.848 Lucy was the redhead in Bram Stoker's. But the name Lucy was actually attributed 00:31:14.848 --> 00:31:19.588 to his fiance in the original Bram Stoker's story. Weird. I believe. 00:31:19.868 --> 00:31:22.928 Okay, yeah, because I don't remember. I just feel like it's, 00:31:23.008 --> 00:31:25.328 I mean, they just did weird things with the characters. 00:31:25.488

--> 00:31:29.488 For sure. I think they just, I don't know why. And I'm not going to answer that question. 00:31:31.208 --> 00:31:34.188 Certainly not going to research. No, I have. 00:31:34.328 --> 00:31:38.348 There are a few things in here that will probably answer that question, 00:31:38.548 --> 00:31:42.828 honestly, but we can we can hold off. We'll wait till we get to our next segment. 00:31:43.288 --> 00:31:48.308 But so we've got this is kind of this like, I don't know, vampire recording 00:31:48.308 --> 00:31:53.928 session of the of the movie where Lucy is now she starts seeing Dracula. 00:31:53.928 --> 00:31:57.668 He's appearing on like the terrace outside he's 00:31:57.668 --> 00:32:00.528 drinking her blood Arthur doesn't know what's going 00:32:00.528 --> 00:32:03.268 on Van Helsing is like I think I 00:32:03.268 --> 00:32:06.128 have an idea you have to keep garlic above her bed because 00:32:06.128 --> 00:32:11.468 there's you know there's a foul odor on the air well there's like a doctor and 00:32:11.468 --> 00:32:17.288 he's like I don't know what's wrong but we'll keep an eye on her and then yeah 00:32:17.288 --> 00:32:22.028 Lucy's like opening the window at night and just like taking her cross off and 00:32:22.028 --> 00:32:25.028 she's Compelled by an unknown force. I mean, we know. Yeah. 00:32:25.468 --> 00:32:29.968 And then in the doorway, who should appear one night? But Dracula himself. 00:32:30.508 --> 00:32:33.568 And if I remember right, he opened both doors. I think she did it for him. 00:32:33.568 --> 00:32:37.428 Oh, okay. He was tired. His wrists hurt from opening all those doors before him. 00:32:38.365 --> 00:32:42.845 Hey, I'm here. Hey, how are you? What's up, baby? Can you open the doors? 00:32:43.545 --> 00:32:47.805 So then eventually she dies. Because Lucy dies. 00:32:48.685 --> 00:32:52.685 Van Helsing asks them to keep the garlic up. They are like, okay, we'll do it. 00:32:52.765 --> 00:32:57.785 But then they take it down. And then Dracula finally finishes Lucy off. 00:32:57.905 --> 00:33:03.085 And also she is aware of Jonathan's death without anybody actually telling her that Jonathan died. 00:33:04.265 --> 00:33:09.385 Yeah. And then, yes, the maid, she ends up going crazy. Not crazy, 00:33:09.465 --> 00:33:11.765 but she doesn't want all the garlic around her. 00:33:12.225 --> 00:33:16.445 And so she asked the maid to take all that stuff away after Van Helsing said, 00:33:16.585 --> 00:33:18.525 do not take this stuff away. Yeah. 00:33:18.945 --> 00:33:22.925 It is very important you listen to me right now. The next morning, 00:33:23.185 --> 00:33:26.505 Lucy is found dead and Van Helsing's like, I told you. Yes. 00:33:26.865 --> 00:33:29.665 Now, is that until later they do the blood transfusion, right? 00:33:30.065 --> 00:33:33.645 Or do they do the blood transfusion for Lucy? No, they do that for Mina. 00:33:33.945 --> 00:33:35.585 Mina, okay. When she starts getting the. 00:33:36.225 --> 00:33:40.365 Itis. Yes. So, yeah. So in, I would say a pretty cool scene, 00:33:40.365 --> 00:33:43.465 you have kind of outside of Lucy's crypt. 00:33:44.145 --> 00:33:52.025 Arthur shows up and then there's another like thrall lady vampire woman shows 00:33:52.025 --> 00:33:54.585 up or no, it is Lucy. Lucy is there. It's Lucy. 00:33:54.745 --> 00:33:59.385 And the little girl, Tanya says earlier, right before that scene, 00:33:59.605 --> 00:34:02.805 the little girl says that This girl tried to take her into the woods, 00:34:02.805 --> 00:34:07.645 and she scared her, and Mina said, who is it? And she said, it's Aunt Lucy. 00:34:07.925 --> 00:34:11.845 And they're both like, oh. So then Arthur goes out to the tomb, yeah. Gotcha. 00:34:12.105 --> 00:34:19.265 And then he sees Lucy there. She's about to bite Arthur, and Van Helsing pulls out a crucifix. 00:34:19.365 --> 00:34:21.585 He steps in the frame. It's very cool, very iconic. 00:34:21.885 --> 00:34:25.705 Does the cross on the forehead thing. Yes, very cool. And then you're like, 00:34:25.825 --> 00:34:28.425 you should have been there hunting Dracula. 00:34:28.565 --> 00:34:31.525 Why did you send him? You're way better than Arthur. So much better way better 00:34:31.525 --> 00:34:34.885 forces her back into her like tomb. 00:34:35.105 --> 00:34:40.325 And then they both Arthur and Van Helsing go in there and stake her. Yes. 00:34:40.725 --> 00:34:45.405 And yeah, then we, we kind of move on to the next, the next section from there. 00:34:46.269 --> 00:34:51.829 Oh, go ahead. They essentially, they meaning Van Helsing and Arthur decide that 00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:54.689 they're going to try to find where Drax Coffin is. 00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:58.189 Yes. And so they go to the border crossing at Ingolstadt. 00:34:58.509 --> 00:35:04.809 And in that same time period, Mina gets a telegram saying to meet Arthur while 00:35:04.809 --> 00:35:06.029 the fellows are out of town. 00:35:06.189 --> 00:35:09.629 So she's kind of going to go. She just got a telegram from somebody who's not 00:35:09.629 --> 00:35:12.909 Arthur who says, I need you to meet me at this place. It was, 00:35:12.909 --> 00:35:16.849 yeah, and it was written in blood and signed D, which I don't know why she didn't, 00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:19.189 she should have been like, this is Dracula. 00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:21.549 Your favorite door opener. Yes. 00:35:22.069 --> 00:35:26.589 There was an illustrated picture of his smiling face with bloodshot eyes down 00:35:26.589 --> 00:35:27.389 at the bottom of the corner. 00:35:27.409 --> 00:35:31.409 A flip book of a door, of a hand opening a doorknob. I do all my own footwork. 00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:33.869 Now you do your footwork and meet me here. 00:35:34.949 --> 00:35:39.169 I do all of my own knob work. Doorknob. Knobwork. 00:35:39.689 --> 00:35:44.269 All right, so Arthur and Van Helsing visit The Undertaker, but find Dracula's 00:35:44.269 --> 00:35:46.529 coffin missing at

Ingolstadt. 00:35:47.349 --> 00:35:52.309 I want to just stop for a moment. At an hour and four minutes into the film, 00:35:52.309 --> 00:35:54.589 we are rewarded with the mortician character. 00:35:55.209 --> 00:35:58.749 This guy is talking about how some guy fell down the stairs once. 00:35:59.189 --> 00:36:05.449 He is so goofy and over the top. And at one point, he's bent at the waist, 00:36:05.589 --> 00:36:07.829 and he's tapping his hands on a casket. He's like, where is it? 00:36:07.909 --> 00:36:10.029 Where is it? Where is it? It's just so silly. 00:36:10.189 --> 00:36:14.029 I wonder what, yeah, and that scene, that's kind of like a, that's like a thing, right? 00:36:14.089 --> 00:36:17.369 That was just like in the 50s cinema was just like, hey, we got to like, 00:36:17.689 --> 00:36:19.789 what do they call that? Like levity. We got to have- Comic relief. 00:36:20.009 --> 00:36:22.489 There's a couple scenes where, you know, they break the gate. 00:36:23.029 --> 00:36:26.689 Okay, yes. And then also the mortician out of nowhere. Yeah. 00:36:27.029 --> 00:36:31.269 Does he get like, does he get like, was that when he gets to like hitting the balls? Yeah. 00:36:31.884 --> 00:36:35.184 Wait, what? I feel like there's like, they throw a gate open and it's like, 00:36:35.384 --> 00:36:38.284 doink. And he's like, his eyes like cross. He's like, oh, like. 00:36:39.184 --> 00:36:44.824 I hope that happened. I backed it up. His top hat got taller. Yes. Huh? Yeah. 00:36:46.604 --> 00:36:49.364 And it was, there was like, wah, wah, and he's like, oh. 00:36:50.244 --> 00:36:55.784 But it was regardless of if he got hit in the, if he got hit in the goods or not. Yeah. 00:36:55.964 --> 00:36:58.544 Yeah. Yeah. There's still this, like, there's this thing, like, 00:36:58.644 --> 00:37:02.464 did they need the whole scene where Dracula does that tap dance in front of the audience. 00:37:02.684 --> 00:37:06.084 I'm glad they kept it in. I mean, I think it was good. Yeah. 00:37:06.524 --> 00:37:13.924 So we go to, Amina gets to where Arthur had told her to meet him at. 00:37:14.264 --> 00:37:16.724 And it's Dracula's coffin. 00:37:17.244 --> 00:37:23.364 Yeah, I mean, and that's, you know, not to- And then he appears in a doorway from behind her. 00:37:23.544 --> 00:37:28.224 Yeah, I'll save it for the end, but that scene specifically where she goes to 00:37:28.224 --> 00:37:32.024 the place and it's Dracula, yeah but then she, 00:37:32.524 --> 00:37:37.864 when the fellas arrive back at the estate she arrives shortly after and she's 00:37:37.864 --> 00:37:40.704 like I just went for a walk and she's looking smug as hell yeah. 00:37:42.044 --> 00:37:46.204 But she's gotten she's been gotten she's being a little, 00:37:47.044 --> 00:37:53.624 everybody's being cagey do you think that Dracula likes doors because they're 00:37:53.624 --> 00:37:58.004 like coffins you kind of have to like open them up so he's just kind of like 00:37:58.004 --> 00:37:59.324 this is familiar to me Maybe. 00:38:00.204 --> 00:38:02.784 Maybe. Okay. I'm just, you know, putting some theories together. 00:38:02.964 --> 00:38:07.264 But in that case, I wonder why he wouldn't have more of the swinging doors. 00:38:07.624 --> 00:38:10.604 I feel like that would be a great solution to this problem. Yeah. 00:38:10.904 --> 00:38:14.704 Now, Mina does turn around and Dracula is like, he very quickly closes the door 00:38:14.704 --> 00:38:16.364 behind him to try to get her to not see. 00:38:16.644 --> 00:38:20.244 Actually, that makes a lot of sense that you mentioned that because now that 00:38:20.244 --> 00:38:23.104 I think about it, every coffin in the movie has a doorknob. Yeah. 00:38:25.690 --> 00:38:28.970 Absolutely. Yeah. And they're actually the old school, like those iron hinge 00:38:28.970 --> 00:38:32.390 doorknobs. Real creaky. Yeah. Not efficient at all. 00:38:32.950 --> 00:38:39.670 So now we go that Arthur tries to give Mina a crucifix to wear because we're 00:38:39.670 --> 00:38:41.530 getting toward the final pursuit. 00:38:41.810 --> 00:38:45.970 They're locking in where Dracula is. And he's like, Mina, you got to be careful. 00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:50.950 Here's a crucifix. Uh-oh, it burned you. You're turning into a vampire. 00:38:51.370 --> 00:38:54.650 And this is, I think, where we get into the blood transfusion that 00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:57.710 Van Helsing administers and then 00:38:57.710 --> 00:39:00.790 i have when arthur asked gerda to fetch some wine 00:39:00.790 --> 00:39:03.610 she tells him mina forbade her to go down into 00:39:03.610 --> 00:39:07.170 the cellar which this is now the most insane 00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.010 scene to me in this film which is 00:39:10.010 --> 00:39:16.110 that the coffins are in the basement of the house of the same house yes and 00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:22.730 ben helsing of arthur homewood's home yes meter cushing looks up like somebody 00:39:22.730 --> 00:39:27.190 lit a fire and he just he he He hauls ass into the basement, 00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:29.170 and there is Dracula's coffin. 00:39:29.710 --> 00:39:31.650 It's crazy. And then when he's in 00:39:31.650 --> 00:39:35.730 the basement, Dracula opens the door and goes, oh, and then he runs out. 00:39:37.530 --> 00:39:42.190 That's a great scene. He's just like, oh, geez. Dracula comes in. 00:39:42.290 --> 00:39:45.250 He's like, oh, crap. You figured it out while I was out. 00:39:45.390 --> 00:39:48.550 And he turns around and he runs away. And this is after he opens the door. 00:39:48.930 --> 00:39:54.090 But then he runs upstairs, Dracula does, and he absconds with Mina and runs 00:39:54.090 --> 00:39:59.370 away. If we ever make t-shirts, we need like a cartoony Dracula in a doorway, 00:39:59.450 --> 00:40:01.630 like with his hand on the knob with the door open. 00:40:01.830 --> 00:40:07.070 And he should be saying something that is clever Dracula related to a door. 00:40:08.070 -->

00:40:13.090 I have one that I can't say that's too profane, but it has to be something cheeky. 00:40:14.357 --> 00:40:20.137 He could just be like, doors are like coffins. Maybe he's opened a door on like 00:40:20.137 --> 00:40:22.177 a stage like at the Chuckle Hut. 00:40:22.457 --> 00:40:25.197 Like that's part of his... It's like his shtick. Yeah, yeah. 00:40:25.977 --> 00:40:29.917 What's the deal with doors? Yeah, he like... So then they... 00:40:29.917 --> 00:40:35.437 This is also getting into the non-supernatural aspects of Dracula. 00:40:35.697 --> 00:40:40.377 Peter Cushing and Dracula have like a foot race where they're like chasing each other. 00:40:40.477 --> 00:40:47.177 And we're just missing a scene of a hallway of those two running door-to-door like Benny Hill style. 00:40:47.197 --> 00:40:50.057 They run in one and come out down the hallway, yeah. At one point, 00:40:50.997 --> 00:40:54.337 Van Helsing is looking through one doorway and Dracula opens another and bumps, 00:40:54.817 --> 00:40:57.937 Van Helsing in the butt with the door and he jumps up in the air and he turns 00:40:57.937 --> 00:40:59.017 around and chases him back through the door. 00:40:59.857 --> 00:41:04.257 So Van Helsing, what I wrote is, upon hearing this, Van Helsing bolts downstairs 00:41:04.257 --> 00:41:06.637 and finds Dracula's coffin, which is empty. 00:41:06.877 --> 00:41:10.057 Dracula has escaped with Mina. So this is after Dracula's like, 00:41:10.117 --> 00:41:11.317 oh, you caught me! And he runs. 00:41:11.717 --> 00:41:17.837 He gets Mina And then he is like, I'm going to turn her into the vampire bride or whatever. 00:41:18.217 --> 00:41:20.637 And he's headed back to Castle Dracula. 00:41:21.057 --> 00:41:25.037 Yes. And then, so he's tearing out with a horse and buggy. 00:41:25.237 --> 00:41:30.477 And then Arthur and Van Helsing are also in, you know, they're following him. 00:41:30.617 --> 00:41:34.377 And that's another thing about, you know, it's so widely different than the 00:41:34.377 --> 00:41:36.077 original stories that, you know. 00:41:37.204 --> 00:41:43.144 Dracula had to cross an ocean to get to London or Germany. 00:41:43.184 --> 00:41:46.344 Yeah, because they were like Romania, so I think they were- It's like literally 00:41:46.344 --> 00:41:49.124 like 20 miles. Yeah. A horse and buggy. 00:41:49.904 --> 00:41:54.204 And he's trudging along. You know he is. He's walking through like muddy creeks, 00:41:54.344 --> 00:41:57.404 and he's down muddy roads, walking through ruts. 00:41:58.004 --> 00:42:00.884 So Arthur and Van Helsing, they meet to discuss their plan. 00:42:01.084 --> 00:42:04.104 Arthur tries to give Mina Cross- Oh no, we already got to that. 00:42:04.224 --> 00:42:07.424 Yeah. But they discuss their plan. They're going to go stop Dracula. 00:42:07.644 --> 00:42:12.084 Their plan is amazing, which is that Van Helsing is just going to run into Castle 00:42:12.084 --> 00:42:15.024 Dracula and continue chasing Dracula. 00:42:15.664 --> 00:42:19.704 Dracula's plan falls apart here, though, because he gets to Castle Dracula. 00:42:19.864 --> 00:42:24.224 He already has a grave dug, and he throws Mina in the grave, 00:42:24.244 --> 00:42:25.744 and he just starts shelling dirt on her. 00:42:26.084 --> 00:42:29.584 He hasn't said—this hasn't been a thing through the whole movie. 00:42:29.684 --> 00:42:31.104 He's like, this is the only thing I can think of. 00:42:31.724 --> 00:42:35.504 And then they catch up to him. That is very funny. Arthur and Van Helsing catch 00:42:35.504 --> 00:42:37.104 him and he just runs. He's like, ah! 00:42:37.424 --> 00:42:40.024 So here's the crazy thing. It's like an episode of Cops. It is. 00:42:41.644 --> 00:42:45.404 They kick the door open and he's like, he's literally throwing dirt on me in his body. 00:42:45.884 --> 00:42:51.604 The crazy thing is he's got like, Cushing chases him into like the main room 00:42:51.604 --> 00:42:56.744 where Harker and that vampire girl at the beginning were like, where she like bit him. 00:42:56.884 --> 00:43:00.224 And then Christopher Lee showed up. But like Peter Cushing, like he like pushes 00:43:00.224 --> 00:43:04.224 into this room and Dracula's got like a, he's got like a hatch open. 00:43:04.384 --> 00:43:07.204 But he didn't have enough time to get in there. So he closes it. 00:43:07.204 --> 00:43:09.944 It's really falling apart. It's another door. He's just like, ah, crap. 00:43:10.164 --> 00:43:13.364 And then they just get into like a physical altercation. 00:43:14.104 --> 00:43:17.204 Again, not really supernatural aspect. 00:43:18.004 --> 00:43:22.424 Dracula is just like choking and punching. Yeah, but like a nice iconic fight 00:43:22.424 --> 00:43:23.904 between two horror legends. 00:43:24.144 --> 00:43:27.824 You know, they've got like the collar and elbow tie up. They've got illegal chokes, you know. 00:43:28.524 --> 00:43:34.324 At one point, Dracula's basically got Van Helsing choked out. 00:43:35.287 --> 00:43:38.407 And then he's about to, he shows his teeth. He's like, I'm not going to bite. 00:43:38.547 --> 00:43:43.467 He pulls a WWE, like WWF, like old school 80s wrestling, his eyes pop up. 00:43:43.487 --> 00:43:47.807 And then Van Helsing's like, ha, and he like kicks him. Yeah. And then Dracula. 00:43:48.167 --> 00:43:49.967 Yeah. Yeah. At that point, he like kicks him out of the way. 00:43:50.107 --> 00:43:52.427 And then in, I mean, great stunt. 00:43:52.807 --> 00:43:57.167 And I assume it's a stunt performer, but then I have, there's some conflicting information here, 00:43:57.267 --> 00:44:00.187 but Van Helsing runs across the kind of banquet 00:44:00.187 --> 00:44:03.247 table that's in the room and then lunges into the air 00:44:03.247 --> 00:44:06.007 and pulls the tapestry or the I should 00:44:06.007 --> 00:44:08.987 say the window dressing down revealing the sunlight 00:44:08.987 --> 00:44:11.987 and then Christopher Lee is Dracula is

00:44:11.987 --> 00:44:17.047 hit by sunlight and he turns into I said he turns him to ash it looks like a 00:44:17.047 --> 00:44:22.767 makeshift cabbage patch head covered in soot yes and he yeah he just kind of 00:44:22.767 --> 00:44:26.167 like falls apart and I think there's some teeth left over or something if I 00:44:26.167 --> 00:44:31.807 remember right it looks like the same like I have a I have a very fuzzy cat at home. 00:44:31.987 --> 00:44:37.047 And when we vacuum the, the canister gets full of what looked like Christopher Lee. 00:44:37.227 --> 00:44:43.687 He's just very gray and just like, yeah, like a, an evil dust bunny. 00:44:44.487 --> 00:44:47.447 Yeah. The evil Dracula dust bunny in your vacuum. 00:44:48.027 --> 00:44:51.967 Yeah. And so Mino saved Dracula's curse seemingly ends. So she goes back to 00:44:51.967 --> 00:44:55.847 normal and there ends the horror of Dracula. 00:44:56.787 --> 00:44:58.107 Anything you'd like to add? 00:44:59.727 --> 00:45:04.207 I mean, are we doing final thoughts? Well, so we're going to go on to our next 00:45:04.207 --> 00:45:06.647 segment, and then we'll do our likes and dislikes at the end. Okay. 00:45:06.947 --> 00:45:10.427 Then, no, no. Anything you want to add to the plot of the film? Anything we missed? 00:45:10.867 --> 00:45:16.327 No. No, I will say when they were heading, when Dracula was trying to get to 00:45:16.327 --> 00:45:18.487 Castle Dracula to bury Mina. 00:45:18.747 --> 00:45:23.227 Yeah, very strange. That's where they did the whole comic bit with the gatekeeper. 00:45:23.767 --> 00:45:25.207 Yeah. Dracula smashed it there, 00:45:25.387 --> 00:45:30.367 and then it kind of cut to where the gatekeeper had it tied back up. 00:45:30.487 --> 00:45:35.707 Yeah. And immediately, as soon as he got it, the last lashing tied up. That's what it was. 00:45:35.867 --> 00:45:38.067 That's when Arthur. That's why I couldn't tell if it got hit in the goods, 00:45:38.207 --> 00:45:42.747 because it cut back to him, and he was just like, oh, I can't believe this. 00:45:42.987 --> 00:45:44.547 What a weird, that's so strange. 00:45:45.987 --> 00:45:52.207 Yeah, that's it. We'll get into some additional thoughts on the film here in the next segment. 00:45:52.207 --> 00:45:57.427 So we're actually coming up about 44 we have 47 ish minutes so we're gonna take 00:45:57.427 --> 00:46:02.227 a break and then we come back we'll do kind of we have i have kind of a background 00:46:02.227 --> 00:46:06.607 trivia making of segment we'll do and then we'll do our final thoughts and uh 00:46:06.607 --> 00:46:08.527 we'll call it good on this one okay cool uh. 00:46:08.560 --> 00:46:30.320 Music. 00:46:31.425 --> 00:46:36.105 All right. Welcome back to Forgotten Frights. I'm Josh. I'm sitting here with Adam. 00:46:36.665 --> 00:46:40.885 Hey. And today on the podcast, we are reviewing the 1958 horror film, 00:46:41.065 --> 00:46:44.325 The Horror of Dracula, starring Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing. 00:46:44.845 --> 00:46:48.825 I had originally planned on doing kind of a Dracula segment. 00:46:49.845 --> 00:46:54.845 I watched the other, we're covering two movies today, so I watched the other one this morning. 00:46:55.325 --> 00:46:58.485 And didn't have a lot of time, but I do have a bunch of just kind of trivia 00:46:58.485 --> 00:47:02.665 because this movie is very popular and it was kind of responsible for just like 00:47:02.665 --> 00:47:06.025 the Curse of Frankenstein and revitalizing these universal monsters, 00:47:06.785 --> 00:47:07.925 flicks, things like that. 00:47:08.305 --> 00:47:11.945 So yeah, I'm just going to kind of go through some trivia and then I have some 00:47:11.945 --> 00:47:16.025 reviews that we can discuss if you're okay with that. Just kind of like talk about them as we go. 00:47:16.525 --> 00:47:20.125 Usually we make a game of it, but I think we've talked about really we're using 00:47:20.125 --> 00:47:21.885 the game to just facilitate trivia. 00:47:22.145 --> 00:47:24.585 So why not just discuss the trivia and see how that goes? 00:47:25.325 --> 00:47:30.545 So Christopher Lee has only 16 lines in this entire film, and most of them are 00:47:30.545 --> 00:47:34.705 dispensed by the 10-minute mark, so he doesn't really talk for the rest of the film. 00:47:35.425 --> 00:47:40.365 I think that that's a great way to use a monster in a movie. Yeah. 00:47:40.765 --> 00:47:44.945 Don't make him like, don't give him any soliloquies. Yeah. Monologues. 00:47:45.925 --> 00:47:48.285 When I was a boy in Transylvania. 00:47:49.905 --> 00:47:53.205 Peter Cushing did the stunt where he leaps over a banister himself. 00:47:53.205 --> 00:47:57.045 Now, I don't remember a banister, and I don't know if they're just saying the 00:47:57.045 --> 00:47:59.565 table, if he did that stunt. 00:47:59.785 --> 00:48:02.725 He could have done it when he was going downstairs to the cellar. 00:48:02.825 --> 00:48:06.625 He could have done it when he was in the fight with Dracula at the very end. 00:48:07.245 --> 00:48:09.905 He could have done it at the tavern, like, oh, my meal's ready. 00:48:10.445 --> 00:48:15.985 Yeah, so if you go back and watch this film, listeners, look for a banister 00:48:15.985 --> 00:48:19.565 and then see if Peter Cushing is jumping it because he did that himself. 00:48:19.565 --> 00:48:24.725 So he insisted on doing so against the studio's concerns that he might injure himself. 00:48:24.925 --> 00:48:31.725 But as we know from a madhouse, according to Vincent Price, Peter Cushing was quite the wiry fellow. 00:48:32.385 --> 00:48:37.125 The cape worn by Sir Christopher Lee was discovered in 2007 in a London costume 00:48:37.125 --> 00:48:39.665 shop during its annual inventory taking. 00:48:39.885 --> 00:48:44.145 It had been missing for 30 years and is believed to be worth around $50,000. 00:48:44.785 --> 00:48:47.365 Lee was contacted to verify its authenticity. 00:48:48.405 --> 00:48:53.205 Wow.

I didn't think, I mean, the cape did not. I mean, that's something about 00:48:53.205 --> 00:48:54.905 like the vampire costume itself. 00:48:55.505 --> 00:48:58.705 I think his costume in the film would make a great Halloween costume. 00:48:59.445 --> 00:49:03.745 That's as far as I got with that idea. Because I feel like he's dressed just 00:49:03.745 --> 00:49:06.805 like a guy in a business suit who's wearing a cape. 00:49:07.822 --> 00:49:11.882 Yeah. You know? Yeah. He looks like a mortician with a cape. Yeah. Yeah. 00:49:12.222 --> 00:49:16.542 So it wasn't like, again, if, you know, and we can't compare it to, 00:49:16.822 --> 00:49:21.602 you know, the 91 version because of, you know, it's just, that's not fair. 00:49:22.302 --> 00:49:26.402 But like the extravagance of like Dracula is this, whatever, 00:49:26.562 --> 00:49:31.642 he's this, not Romanian, Transylvanian prince, Wallachia or whatever that is. 00:49:32.122 --> 00:49:34.922 I'm probably saying that wrong, Wallachia, Wallachia. Yeah. So he's wearing 00:49:34.922 --> 00:49:37.882 like reds and golds and he's very, it's very this. 00:49:38.062 --> 00:49:44.102 And then in this movie, he's like, dress him in your finest mortician suit. 00:49:44.102 --> 00:49:50.722 But I wonder if, you know, because I was raised with the whole Bela Lugosi thing, 00:49:50.842 --> 00:49:55.322 like being like the epitome of vampire and what the vampire should look like. 00:49:55.442 --> 00:50:00.742 And now when I go back and watch Bela Lugosi, you know, he just seems kind of 00:50:00.742 --> 00:50:06.222 like, I don't know, he definitely has a look about him for vampire stuff. 00:50:06.222 --> 00:50:13.202 But like for Christopher Lee, it's like, I feel like he's more raw and like sensual. 00:50:13.562 --> 00:50:17.562 Like, I wonder, I wonder if it was, that was, uh, because every, 00:50:17.722 --> 00:50:21.842 every woman in the movie seems to be like under his control, 00:50:22.062 --> 00:50:24.842 like just, and, and, and it feels like in more of a, 00:50:25.122 --> 00:50:29.782 again, more of a, a sexual way than the Bela Lugosi stuff. 00:50:29.902 --> 00:50:33.822 So I don't know, maybe they, they dressed him down a little bit for that too. I don't know. Yeah. 00:50:34.022 --> 00:50:37.422 And I, yeah, I guess there's more, yeah, there's more of that. 00:50:37.522 --> 00:50:41.682 Cause that's also one of the things, you know, and just kind of like researching 00:50:41.682 --> 00:50:45.522 this film is, you know, the talk about even Christopher Lee's talking about 00:50:45.522 --> 00:50:48.862 the sensual nature of the character. And I just got really more of a. 00:50:49.935 --> 00:50:54.315 And I just got a very like 1950s, very, I don't know, stilted, 00:50:54.395 --> 00:50:56.855 but it's very, I don't know, it's very wooden. 00:50:57.175 --> 00:51:00.635 It's just very kind of wooden performance. And then Christopher Lee in an interview 00:51:00.635 --> 00:51:04.295 was talking about how he was like, I tried to tap into the loneliness of this Dracula. 00:51:04.295 --> 00:51:06.655 And it's like, I mean, you kind of stood there and it's like, 00:51:07.215 --> 00:51:13.035 you know, you're not really, I don't, I didn't get that, you know. So, you know, I'm glad. 00:51:13.195 --> 00:51:15.975 And but also Christopher Lee, in hindsight, he has that wonderful interview 00:51:15.975 --> 00:51:20.255 where the lady keeps calling him a legend of horror films. And he's like, stop calling me that. 00:51:21.115 --> 00:51:24.675 So, you know, he's an unreliable narrator at best. 00:51:25.395 --> 00:51:29.275 On several occasions, Sir Christopher Lee complained about the contact lenses 00:51:29.275 --> 00:51:32.035 he had to wear for the shock scenes. 00:51:32.195 --> 00:51:38.695 This is IMDb trivia, so I don't, the language is by users, so I'm not sure what that means exactly. 00:51:38.915 --> 00:51:43.115 But not only were they quite painful, but he couldn't see a thing. 00:51:43.435 --> 00:51:48.975 Wow. So, because I do remember the bloodshot lenses that he was wearing. 00:51:48.975 --> 00:51:51.775 They were like that made his eyes red while he was like 00:51:51.775 --> 00:51:54.615 when he came into that window on the top of the stairs 00:51:54.615 --> 00:51:57.375 or whatever right there's there's a couple of scenes where 00:51:57.375 --> 00:52:00.015 they're just very close up on christopher lee's face and they're just 00:52:00.015 --> 00:52:02.775 both very two or three of them but they're 00:52:02.775 --> 00:52:05.875 just very iconic like i've i've seen those 00:52:05.875 --> 00:52:08.755 still photos many many times in different 00:52:08.755 --> 00:52:12.095 books and things like that you have him like grimacing yeah yeah 00:52:12.095 --> 00:52:14.715 just very close up on christopher i'll do a few more here because then i have 00:52:14.715 --> 00:52:17.575 a couple of reviews i want to read this is the first time that peter cushing and 00:52:17.575 --> 00:52:20.815 sir christopher lee are top billed in any theatrical film the 00:52:20.815 --> 00:52:25.115 last would be the satanic rights of dracula 1973 00:52:25.115 --> 00:52:28.215 and then then we're pushing on toward 00:52:28.215 --> 00:52:31.595 madhouse with peter cushing and vincent price 00:52:31.595 --> 00:52:34.335 kind of being because that i think that was the only 00:52:34.335 --> 00:52:37.095 film those two were top building i think we talked about that 00:52:37.095 --> 00:52:42.075 before yeah and lastly we have the opening scene of dracula's coffin without 00:52:42.075 --> 00:52:45.755 the blood it was knotted to in young frankenstein i kind of thought that looked 00:52:45.755 --> 00:52:51.515 familiar i don't know if that's absolutely true but i would assume so i think 00:52:51.515 --> 00:52:55.315 that makes sense because this movie does open up with a pretty cool like iconic. 00:52:55.815 --> 00:53:00.255 There's like the you know we've got whatever that is

a plaque or like uh it 00:53:00.255 --> 00:53:03.915 says dracula and the blood dripping on the coffin and pretty you know pretty 00:53:03.915 --> 00:53:09.335 cool and that i mean that is how young frankenstein opens as well but whether 00:53:09.335 --> 00:53:13.715 that's actually intentional i don't know but both definitely share kind of some visual elements there. 00:53:14.925 --> 00:53:18.785 All right, and let me get to, I just got a couple of reviews I want to go through. 00:53:19.345 --> 00:53:22.765 There's one from Variety from 1958. 00:53:23.385 --> 00:53:26.265 I'm just going to read a paragraph out of here. It says, 00:53:26.465 --> 00:53:31.345 Universal, which was aboard the Spine Chill bandwagon with Frankenstein and 00:53:31.345 --> 00:53:37.925 Dracula as early as 1931, has another fright picture in Horror of Dracula that 00:53:37.925 --> 00:53:40.985 should pay off handsomely at the box office, 00:53:41.125 --> 00:53:43.625 despite the non-name cast. 00:53:44.545 --> 00:53:49.305 Interesting, right? A British-made film. It's being packaged as a horror special 00:53:49.305 --> 00:53:53.545 with... Can't read that part because it's really blurry, but it's also paired 00:53:53.545 --> 00:53:55.605 with the film The Thing That Couldn't Die. 00:53:56.385 --> 00:54:01.225 There's gore aplenty in this import, turned out by Michael Carreras' Hammer 00:54:01.225 --> 00:54:04.785 Film Production, specializing in raw heads and bloody bones. 00:54:05.085 --> 00:54:08.365 The product that Hammer is also shilling or selling. 00:54:08.585 --> 00:54:12.605 This is coupled with Curse of Frankenstein, which mopped up at the wicket. 00:54:12.605 --> 00:54:17.585 I would assume the box office must be English, as was the curse of Dracula to 00:54:17.585 --> 00:54:23.165 is in color, a factor that tends to heighten the exploitation values inherent in the film. 00:54:23.525 --> 00:54:26.085 A couple of things I want to point out is just non-name cast. 00:54:26.225 --> 00:54:29.125 I think it's interesting to say, you know, Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, 00:54:29.145 --> 00:54:31.625 who would become the icons of the horror genre. 00:54:31.825 --> 00:54:36.165 And then the other thing is the exploitation in this film, which maybe it's 00:54:36.165 --> 00:54:37.905 the exploitation of women. 00:54:38.445 --> 00:54:41.925 I mean, again, I think it's 58, but it's. 00:54:41.925 --> 00:54:46.185 But we're looking at something so far past, you know, where it's like, 00:54:46.505 --> 00:54:49.385 again, I think the fact that, you know, 00:54:49.645 --> 00:54:56.085 and don't, I haven't seen the original Dracula Universal film in a long time, 00:54:56.085 --> 00:55:01.885 but I feel like the women in that movie were in peril and these women were all 00:55:01.885 --> 00:55:04.245 in their bedclothes and they were all like, 00:55:04.705 --> 00:55:07.445 yeah, I'm with this. I'm opening the window for you. Right. 00:55:07.645 --> 00:55:11.465 So I think that

that's, you know, that's probably what they're speaking to. 00:55:11.925 --> 00:55:15.625 I have a IMDb one-star review. Would you like to hear it? 00:55:16.385 --> 00:55:19.125 Yeah. Okay. It says, the story sucks. 00:55:20.925 --> 00:55:24.045 The acting is crap. Best part of the movie is the cinematography, 00:55:24.245 --> 00:55:26.405 sets, and music. The story and acting sucks. 00:55:27.225 --> 00:55:32.245 He says it again? Or she? The Lee's acting is the worst. His opening dialogue 00:55:32.245 --> 00:55:35.005 about categorizing his books for his library is nonsense. 00:55:35.165 --> 00:55:38.465 I agree with that. I think the librarian angle is kind of stupid. 00:55:39.445 --> 00:55:42.885 Dracula with a British accent. real disappointment he 00:55:42.885 --> 00:55:45.545 looks good in the dracula costume but once he 00:55:45.545 --> 00:55:48.565 opens his mouth not to bit i think he means bite to 00:55:48.565 --> 00:55:53.685 speak it's laughter time peter cushing is good but nothing could save this movie 00:55:53.685 --> 00:55:58.145 please stop being blinded by the love of dracula and the costumes the set the 00:55:58.145 --> 00:56:02.005 sets costume cinematography music are very good but the story is just painful 00:56:02.005 --> 00:56:06.305 the dialogue and accents embarrassing c rating for a b movie, 00:56:07.445 --> 00:56:10.865 He still gave it a passing grade. So this is weird. It's a one-star review, 00:56:10.885 --> 00:56:14.205 but then at the very end, he says, C rating for a B movie, three stars. 00:56:14.825 --> 00:56:18.485 He gives it three stars, even though he had a word in it. Three stars out of four. 00:56:19.685 --> 00:56:23.385 I guess. I don't know. I'm not sure. But yeah, so I mean, we can get into our 00:56:23.385 --> 00:56:26.305 final thoughts, likes and dislikes. We're just coming up on the hour mark, 00:56:26.345 --> 00:56:27.505 or we're just over the hour mark. 00:56:27.685 --> 00:56:31.665 I actually have, I'll go into my likes and dislikes momentarily, 00:56:31.745 --> 00:56:36.385 but there were some actors that were put together in this movie that made me 00:56:36.385 --> 00:56:37.925 think of another movie. Mm-hmm. 00:56:38.785 --> 00:56:43.825 There's an amicus anthology movie by the name of Dr. Terror's House of Horrors. Okay. 00:56:44.245 --> 00:56:49.285 So the anthology, the through-line story takes place on a train, and Dr. 00:56:49.525 --> 00:56:53.265 Terror is a tarot card reader, and he's played by Peter Cushing. 00:56:53.465 --> 00:56:57.105 And he kind of, he flips a card and then another story starts. 00:56:57.205 --> 00:57:01.565 Oh, okay. Very Tales from the Crypt-y kind of. Well, one of the passengers on 00:57:01.565 --> 00:57:04.285 the train is Christopher Lee. 00:57:04.645 --> 00:57:08.525 Interesting. And so when he flips the card for Christopher Lee, it tells his story. 00:57:08.985 --> 00:57:12.365 And his story has to do about this art critic. 00:57:12.565 --> 00:57:17.965 Christopher Lee is this real snobby, real, he's a real jerk, this art critic. Yeah. 00:57:18.245 --> 00:57:22.245 And Michael Goh is the artist. Interesting. And that was Arthur? 00:57:22.965 --> 00:57:27.965 Arthur, correct. Yeah, okay. And he went on to play Alfred in the Batman movies, 1989. 00:57:28.365 --> 00:57:31.745 Oh, okay. Interesting. But, so yeah, so there's just a through line where Michael 00:57:31.745 --> 00:57:34.705 Goh, Christopher Lee, and Peter Cushing were all in that movie. 00:57:34.705 --> 00:57:38.885 And I believe, I don't know how far, I want to say like eight years later is 00:57:38.885 --> 00:57:39.625 when that movie was made. 00:57:39.765 --> 00:57:43.185 So we need to cover that movie for sure. It's one of my favorites. 00:57:43.425 --> 00:57:48.305 And then B, was the tarot card a Dracula opening a door? You know. 00:57:50.845 --> 00:57:51.565 It was. 00:57:53.565 --> 00:57:57.425 It was a Frankenstein opening a door for some reason. You have the knob of tens. 00:57:57.965 --> 00:58:00.825 The knob of tens. What an ugly way. 00:58:00.985 --> 00:58:05.925 Just an ugly collection of words. it was uh it was a frankenstein opening a 00:58:05.925 --> 00:58:10.865 door like that's confusing that ain't me what did you uh what did you like about 00:58:10.865 --> 00:58:15.245 this film adam i liked the basically everything the guy said no, 00:58:16.085 --> 00:58:21.225 i did like the set design a lot i like the music i like the atmosphere i like 00:58:21.225 --> 00:58:26.005 you know it's hard not to appreciate this movie for what it stands for so i 00:58:26.005 --> 00:58:29.225 mean i'm probably looking at it through rose-colored glasses in that regard. 00:58:29.665 --> 00:58:31.325 I really like all the actors in the movie. 00:58:32.345 --> 00:58:36.865 Going into it, watching it as the story of Dracula, there were a few parts where 00:58:36.865 --> 00:58:41.445 I just like, earlier we were talking about the Mina character going to, 00:58:41.585 --> 00:58:45.045 you know, the guy comes with a telegram, Arthur wants you to come to this place, 00:58:45.165 --> 00:58:46.785 she goes there, it's Dracula. Yeah. 00:58:47.217 --> 00:58:50.477 There's nothing to subvert your expectations like 00:58:50.477 --> 00:58:53.397 you know the whole time that's what it's going to be and 00:58:53.397 --> 00:58:56.837 this movie kind of just is that it's like there's no 00:58:56.837 --> 00:59:01.997 mystique where it's like i guess the the craziest twist was that the the caskets 00:59:01.997 --> 00:59:05.257 were in the basement that's that was insane to me and i and at first i was like 00:59:05.257 --> 00:59:09.977 i thought it was that was such a laughably bad idea in hindsight that's like 00:59:09.977 --> 00:59:15.457 the best part of the movie it's like so like i i looked like Peter Cushing in that moment. 00:59:15.577 --> 00:59:18.697 Literally, we both did the same expression and I shot out of my chair. 00:59:19.037 --> 00:59:19.757

I checked my own basement. 00:59:22.757 --> 00:59:27.597 But continue. But no, essentially, yeah, I mean, I guess I liked it for the 00:59:27.597 --> 00:59:32.457 actors, you know, the iconic actors in the movie, the set design, 00:59:32.597 --> 00:59:33.717 the sound, the atmosphere. 00:59:33.977 --> 00:59:36.157 And then, you know, just, I guess the fact that it was just, 00:59:36.277 --> 00:59:39.277 it was very, you knew where it was going the entire time. 00:59:39.457 --> 00:59:42.657 It was, you know, it was a bit plotting, like Curse of Frankenstein. Yeah. 00:59:42.657 --> 00:59:45.497 Yeah and i think that's i've always got and i'm just just 00:59:45.497 --> 00:59:48.317 because we're always working on format i always break it like i 00:59:48.317 --> 00:59:51.217 break it up into like likes and dislikes but i suppose we could just like at the 00:59:51.217 --> 00:59:54.057 end of the podcast just do like a just lump likes 00:59:54.057 --> 00:59:57.797 and dislikes and then i mean that makes sense right so just 00:59:57.797 --> 01:00:00.977 getting into likes and dislikes peter cushing and christopher lee are amazing pair 01:00:00.977 --> 01:00:03.717 as much as i thought i didn't think 01:00:03.717 --> 01:00:06.617 much of it at this point i can see why audiences were like whoa 01:00:06.617 --> 01:00:09.777 very cool 58 we've got color it's like 01:00:09.777 --> 01:00:12.997 a sensual version of dracula you've also 01:00:12.997 --> 01:00:16.577 got i mean you have peter cushing and christopher 01:00:16.577 --> 01:00:19.497 lee on the screen so i mean i just i 01:00:19.497 --> 01:00:23.757 get it you know it's and it shows there like they're the the way they interact 01:00:23.757 --> 01:00:27.257 that last fight even though it's kind of like hokey and 50s it's still like 01:00:27.257 --> 01:00:31.777 okay this is engaging they're throwing themselves into it it's not like which 01:00:31.777 --> 01:00:35.837 actually i i'm good i'm talking about this because there's another movie that 01:00:35.837 --> 01:00:38.877 we need to review on here or discuss, 01:00:39.717 --> 01:00:41.257 Kronos Captain Kronos. 01:00:42.842 --> 01:00:49.902 And when we review that, just remember, if we can, the final fight in this film 01:00:49.902 --> 01:00:54.622 seems like it's on the same set as the final fight in Captain Kronos. 01:00:54.742 --> 01:00:58.822 Vampire is a vampire slayer. Vampire hunter. Vampire hunter. 01:00:59.622 --> 01:01:03.982 And they but why Captain Kronos is so amazing, too. But there's also there's 01:01:03.982 --> 01:01:07.262 so as soon as I saw it in this movie, I was like, this is like Captain Kronos. 01:01:07.622 --> 01:01:13.302 So regardless, I like I like what's going on there. I like the Christopher Lee 01:01:13.302 --> 01:01:14.502 and Peter Cushing of it all. 01:01:15.102 --> 01:01:18.182 With that said, as far as dislikes, this story is kind of confusing. 01:01:18.482 --> 01:01:23.842 I think just having the source material,

probably watching it in hindsight is 01:01:23.842 --> 01:01:28.442 not a great idea unless you have like the Wicca opened on it and you're following 01:01:28.442 --> 01:01:31.542 along because there's just unnecessary changes that are like, 01:01:31.622 --> 01:01:34.382 why would they? It is more so it makes you think like, why would they do that? 01:01:35.702 --> 01:01:38.802 Which you don't want that from the audience while they're watching the movie. 01:01:39.302 --> 01:01:42.982 I didn't think Christopher Lee is really that imposing as Dracula, which we discussed. 01:01:43.302 --> 01:01:47.842 He's opening doors. He's running around. He's constantly being like, he's befuddled. 01:01:48.002 --> 01:01:52.582 And he's constantly like, Peter Cushing is like catching him in the active stuff. 01:01:52.722 --> 01:01:55.922 He's not like capable of being Dracula. 01:01:56.282 --> 01:02:00.002 It's like if you go out and you're throwing something away outside of your house 01:02:00.002 --> 01:02:02.822 and a raccoon is getting in your trash, he's going to be like, 01:02:02.902 --> 01:02:04.002 oh shit. And he's going to run. 01:02:04.442 --> 01:02:06.802 That's what, you know, you're trying to bury a woman. He's like, 01:02:06.862 --> 01:02:10.882 oh, no. He seems like a serial killer dressed like Dracula. 01:02:12.307 --> 01:02:15.467 You know, it's just like he loves to murder, but then it's just like, 01:02:15.687 --> 01:02:19.267 and the cops are Arthur and Peter Fishing and they're like, oh, 01:02:19.287 --> 01:02:21.907 the murder is in the basement now. And they're like, okay, go down there quick, quick. 01:02:22.367 --> 01:02:26.107 But yeah. So, you know, other than that, but again, with that being said, 01:02:26.127 --> 01:02:32.147 I think we should, we should, we should continue exploring Hammer films. 01:02:32.787 --> 01:02:38.847 And we should, I think we should make it a point to continue exploring the Frankenstein. 01:02:39.647 --> 01:02:45.247 What do you, whatever you want to call that? not anthology, but the Frankenstein saga. 01:02:45.527 --> 01:02:48.647 The Frankenstein cinematic universe? Yes. 01:02:48.887 --> 01:02:57.327 The F-C-U and the DCU, which the Dracula cinematic universe. 01:02:57.387 --> 01:02:57.967 Yeah, I know what you mean. 01:02:58.067 --> 01:03:03.347 Right up until we get to the point where it's Frankenstein's brother and the... 01:03:05.487 --> 01:03:08.487 The vampire's kiss. The vampire's kiss, yes. 01:03:08.887 --> 01:03:11.767 So, but I think we should just, and we don't have to do it. You know, 01:03:11.927 --> 01:03:14.127 we don't have to do this sequentially, but I think as we're doing, 01:03:14.567 --> 01:03:16.887 oh, I mean, we should do it sequentially, but we don't have to do it. 01:03:17.027 --> 01:03:19.187 We could just, as we go through a hammer picture, it's like, 01:03:19.447 --> 01:03:20.707 okay, well, what's the next hammer picture? 01:03:20.887 --> 01:03:23.407 Let's just do the next Frankenstein. Let's do the next Dracula. 01:03:23.547 --> 01:03:28.847 Yeah, I had no idea that they kept anything from the prior film. So that's. 01:03:29.087 --> 01:03:31.947 There's something, I swear I read that in one of the movies, 01:03:32.267 --> 01:03:35.567 like Frankenstein's trapped in ice. Even if it's not, we're going to have to 01:03:35.567 --> 01:03:36.587 try to piece them together. 01:03:37.207 --> 01:03:41.287 And yeah, I think the vat of acid from the Curse of Frankenstein makes a comeback. 01:03:41.727 --> 01:03:47.187 Yeah. I think the hole that he, that Dracula dug to put Nina in, that makes a comeback. 01:03:47.507 --> 01:03:51.687 It still has some dirt in it. So they really, they're pressed for time to try 01:03:51.687 --> 01:03:53.227 to stop him. Easter eggs. 01:03:53.427 --> 01:03:55.607 Yeah. They're like, oh, acid vats. Yeah. 01:03:57.138 --> 01:04:01.818 Okay, again, if we can get a t-shirt that says Acid Vat from The Curse of Frankenstein, 01:04:01.938 --> 01:04:04.778 it would be great. Okay, anything you want to add, Adam, before we close out? 01:04:06.838 --> 01:04:09.758 The only thing I can think of is that in The Curse of Frankenstein, 01:04:09.758 --> 01:04:11.558 I'm thinking nothing actually happened. 01:04:11.678 --> 01:04:15.898 He was just so huffed up on those acid fumes that he dreamed all of that stuff. 01:04:15.998 --> 01:04:20.138 That's actually a good point. So in the sequel, he just wakes up. 01:04:21.218 --> 01:04:25.038 It's like in a snow globe, like in Hill Street Blues. And then the Frankenstein 01:04:25.038 --> 01:04:26.118 movie plays out in the sequel. 01:04:27.198 --> 01:04:32.318 Wait what's going on nothing never mind okay so yeah we're just we'll close 01:04:32.318 --> 01:04:36.058 out here and i thought i guess you gotta remember i need to cut this part but 01:04:36.058 --> 01:04:39.218 no yeah so uh yeah just listen to us wherever you listen to podcasts if you 01:04:39.218 --> 01:04:42.898 want to catch us on podbean or we're on itunes spotify, 01:04:43.378 --> 01:04:46.378 apple music follow us there if you 01:04:46.378 --> 01:04:49.238 want to send me hate mail i did i have an email at 01:04:49.238 --> 01:04:52.278 forgottenfrights at gmail.com you could also send nice 01:04:52.278 --> 01:04:55.058 emails or ask questions or clarifications if you 01:04:55.058 --> 01:04:58.078 have trivia on some of these movies that we've covered that we 01:04:58.078 --> 01:05:01.358 just completely botched and you want to clarify stuff send it 01:05:01.358 --> 01:05:04.298 our way i'll read it on the podcast i don't care i mean 01:05:04.298 --> 01:05:07.298 i do care but i i mean i'll i will read it adam cares 01:05:07.298 --> 01:05:10.018 too yeah and it was saying elsewhere it was saying 01:05:10.018 --> 01:05:12.938 oh yeah where it turns out it's a snow that's right yes i 01:05:12.938 --> 01:05:15.678 was thinking of when they wake up the guy the girl wakes up 01:05:15.678 --> 01:05:20.058 and the guy's in the shower but that's dallas dallas or then there's also not 01:05:20.058 --> 01:05:23.598 the carol burnett show but who wakes up there's another one where they know 01:05:23.598 --> 01:05:26.338 it's oh bob newhart bob newhart he wakes up he's like i just had the craziest 01:05:26.338 --> 01:05:31.698 wow and then roseanne where she's like she's like writing a book at the end 01:05:31.698 --> 01:05:34.878 they all finished they all shows eventually end, 01:05:35.778 --> 01:05:40.158 on a dream or a snow globe yep yep sorry sorry about all the spoilers yeah sorry 01:05:40.158 --> 01:05:43.438 about the spoilers guys and uh yeah sorry we ended the podcast this way so anyway 01:05:43.438 --> 01:05:49.358 yeah we will uh this is it i'm done talking goodbye oh wait couldn't. 01:05:49.520 --> 01:06:16.305 Music.