Fuld transskription af Marvel, Please Change Spider-Man

00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.120 And then there's a lot to talk about. 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.280 Yes, and then we have Absolute Batman 25 coming out this year. 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:01.519 Yeah. 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:02.640 Charles or this month. 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.760 Charles Sowell starts uh his Venom run this month. 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:06.159 Yep. 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:12.319 I mean, this is a big month, so there's gonna be a lot of big stuff for the Beyond the Pull list, and we might have a big announcement at the end of the month. 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:13.919 We may have a big announcement. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.039 I I forgot about that. 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:16.400 But we can't say anything until then. 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:17.360 I don't know what we're talking about. 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:18.080 Me neither. 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:18.879 Big announcement. 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:20.240 Paul delete this. 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.919 Um but yeah, but uh speaking of Clayface, did you see the popcorn bucket cup? 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:26.159 Yes. 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:27.120 Did you see the cup? 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.319 You know, I did see them both because you know why? 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:31.360 You sent them to me. 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:32.240 Don't do this. 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:37.599 I know I'm bad. 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.080 I know I'm so bad at answering my text. 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:41.039 It's so bad. 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:41.919 I'll send him stuff. 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:44.080 But also, I want you to know this is with everybody. 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:45.919 This is not just a I know, I know, I know. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.080 It's a I've been friends with you for almost 10 years. 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:48.639 I know. 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:49.120 I know. 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:53.759 I'll be like, I'll be, I'll send something to somebody, and some will go, bro, read your chats. 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:54.240 Yeah. 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:55.520 Do you not read the chat? 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.000 I literally sent that to you a week ago, and I'm like, oh, I thought I sent you something cool. 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:03.680 And what's crazy, there's some posts that you sent me going back and looking through them today. 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.039 There was some that you sent me that I was like, I almost sent that to you today. 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.479 And I literally just like got sidetracked and like I'm like a like I'm like a dog. 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:13.439 Like I'll just like I'll be like one thing, and then I'll just be like, oh, what's over there? 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.560 Yeah, ooh, squirrel. 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.240 Like I'm just like all over the place and I can't stay locked into one thing. 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:18.639 Yeah. 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:19.919 But you know what? 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.599 We're we're we're we're doing yeah, hey, hey, listen. 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.479 Today is the last day of me having distress, hopefully. 00:03:28.639 --> 00:03:29.199 That I hope. 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:30.400 That's the fingers are crossed. 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:30.560 Yes. 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:31.759 You know, knock on wood. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.000 That's me knocking on the table that's made of wood. 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.319 And uh we'll we'll get into a lot today. 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:41.280 But yes, this month is gonna be huge. 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:42.560 The biggest. 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:43.680 Quite big. 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:45.120 Muy grande. 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:46.159 Muy grande. 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.319 Big all right. 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.719 But here's how we're gonna do today's episode. 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.000 Um, we're gonna do it similar to the way that we normally do it. 00:03:56.159 --> 00:04:00.240 Um, we're gonna have our breakdown and review of Amazing Spider-Man 1000. 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:05.680 We're gonna go through each story because this issue is a celebration of a thousand issues of Spider-Man. 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:07.599 So there are eight stories in this issue. 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:09.120 We're gonna go through each one of them. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:14.159 Uh, we're gonna rely more on memory as we talk about this rather than going panel by panel. 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:19.279 I know uh sometimes when you guys listen, we break down an issue more so panel by panel. 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:26.639 Um, but we're gonna try to rely more on memory for Amazing Spider-Man a thousand, since it literally just came out yesterday as of the time of this recording. 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.680 So if we can't remember, then we probably need to be in a nursing home or something. 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.160 Well, also our uh our store ran out. 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.759 So we we you Clayton didn't get one. 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.720 This is the first week where I don't have a physical copy, and you do. 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:46.560 I my like all like we at our little table we have like little comic stands where we always have like I'll I'll save like two for me and two for Clayton. 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.720 All four of them are for me this week. 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.160 Well, one of us for both of us, but the other three are for me. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:58.639 And then I I have a weekly poll book uh that came out this week, but I'm not gonna talk about it. 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:05.680 And that's not because I don't want to talk about it, it is because um Paul's not caught up, and that is Geiger 25. 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:12.319 Uh, and I know there's several of you, uh Abdullah uh and Logan, you both have mentioned that you guys are going to start reading Geiger. 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:14.160 Abdullah, I know you have started it. 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:15.920 Uh Logan, you said you want to. 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.160

Um, and and many other people have told me that I we got them started on Geiger. 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.120 And I and so I didn't want to spoil that yet. 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:27.920 I wanted to give it a little bit more time for people to get caught up, uh, especially since a Netflix show has been announced. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:28.720 I saw that. 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:33.600 Uh so there are I so I have nothing I'm gonna talk about because I have nothing outside of Geiger. 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:35.839 Um, but you have a big week. 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:37.040 It's a big week for me. 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.879 Yeah, and as we've already established, you're gonna go over the ending of Al Ewing's Venom. 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:41.279 Yep. 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.120 This is the official end of his run. 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:48.800 And then we have some Star Wars news, which I know you just love Star Wars now, Paul. 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:49.360 Yay. 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:52.720 This is this is the biggest news, so stay tuned. 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:59.040 You know, I've I've been sitting and hoping for this for all of negative 20 minutes. 00:05:59.279 --> 00:05:59.519 Yeah. 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:00.000 Yeah. 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.639 Which means I've not been hoping for this at all. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.439 Especially the news that we have to share. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:06.160 Yes, yes. 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.639 Um, which I'm interested to hear what you have to say because it doesn't seem like you're excited either. 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:11.600 I have thoughts. 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:12.879 I guess we'll get to it then. 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:14.399 My brain works for these. 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:17.519 I want that on a shirt. 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.120 My brain works for these. 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.040 My brain works sometimes. 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:22.079 Sometimes. 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:22.720 Only sometimes. 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.279 Mine would say my brain works, but works would be misspelled. 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:27.839 It'd be like W-U-R-K-X. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:28.800 Yeah. 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.279 So let's let's get into it. 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:36.560 I wish we had like a little button we could press, like wait for it. 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:38.399 Wait, future Paul. 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:39.439 Roll it. 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:43.040 There we go. 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:44.160 He did it. 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:46.000 Good job, future Paul. 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:47.439 Did you write down the timestamp? 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:47.920 No. 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.720 Six minutes and 40 seconds. 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.319 Let me write that down, Ruby. 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:57.439 You're future Paul will thank you. 00:06:57.600 --> 00:06:58.240 Yes, thank you. 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.079 Thank you, future Paul. 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:01.439 You're welcome, Bash Paul. 00:07:02.560

--> 00:07:06.160 So, anyways, um, so this is Amazing Spider-Man a thousand. 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:15.120 So uh this is picking up um Joe Kelly's story that he's been writing uh what since like what nine writing seventy something? 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.639 Uh I don't remember when he started. 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:23.279 It was when Marvel did their like it was the weird relaunch. 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.240 Um so it was kind of like they relaunched all their books. 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:31.439 They relaunched everything to number ones again, but nothing all the stories were still continuing. 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:33.279 They just started with a new number one. 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:35.199 Um it was the little gimmick thing that they did. 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.040 But wow, Marvel doing a gimmick? 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:37.759 That's so surprising. 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:38.399 Crazy. 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:46.720 Yeah, because Al Ewing kept writing Venom and then uh uh Zeb Wells moved it over to Joe Kelly, which they were already working together, right? 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:47.519 I'm pretty sure. 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:48.639 Yeah, I think they were already working together. 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:50.959 Joe Kelly took over on 965. 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:51.920 965. 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:52.480 Wow. 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:56.000 So how many that's what 40 five issues ago. 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:56.959 Yeah, that's wild. 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:57.360 Yeah. 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.000 So so man, that doesn't feel very difficult. 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:01.439 Well, 36 issues. 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:01.839 Yeah. 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:03.120 That's weird. 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:04.240 That feels really wild. 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:08.240 But um But he started in 2025, so how does that make sense? 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:12.560 Um honestly, I I want to say that this stuff started in 2025. 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:14.399 Yeah, April 9th, 2025. 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:18.319 So they were they were pushing out they were pushing out two issues a month. 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.879 Um uh Death Spiral, I bet. 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:28.879 Because that was like every other week was a was a they were going back and forth because Venom would do one week and then Spider-Man would do the next, and then Venom would do a week, and then Spider-Man would do the next. 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:30.399 So they were like going back and forth between the two. 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:31.680 So that's probably where it's been. 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.639 But I don't know, maybe they sped things up or something. 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:38.799 Maybe they just love Joe Kelly so much that they're like, we really want you to do a thousand. 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:39.840 Can you write faster? 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:40.080 Yeah. 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:41.360 Like write even faster. 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:42.720 Now, now we will say this. 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:44.720 Me and Clayton have not been pulling Amazing. 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:45.039 No. 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:49.360 We of course we only pulled this to talk about it because it is the a thousandth issue issue. 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.240 And I remember both of us working at the comic book store. 00:08:52.399 --> 00:09:02.879 You if you've listened to our retro review episode on uh Amazing Spider-Man 800, at that same time we were talking about like, oh, if 800's this good, I wonder what issue a thousand's gonna be. 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:08.320 And boy sometimes foreshadowing is foreshadowing is rather rather obvious. 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.279 Um no, I it I I'm excited to talk about this. 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:14.399 Um this is a different uh marker issue. 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:19.039 This is less less uh less of a continuous story like 800 was. 00:09:19.360 --> 00:09:31.120 This is more this is Marvel and I guess DC really their new style of doing celebration issues, of doing a you have a main story and then you have a bunch of back stories. 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:38.879 Which again, this this this issue, which we'll get into, solves one of the issues that we both have consistently had with those types of issues. 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:39.360 Yes. 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.480 Um, but it's still kinda eh. 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:44.080 Give or take. 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:44.720 Yeah, you know. 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.759 Some some stories are are really good. 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.639 And there are some stories that are like I can't. 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:53.679 I can leave without this, yeah. 00:09:53.840 --> 00:10:03.440 And and and again, like uh, which I well, the first story we're gonna talk about is called Ravenged, which is the main title storyline, um, which has been noted that Spider-Man's life will change forever. 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:13.600 Every promotion, yeah, every promotion at at what D23, at San Diego Comic-Con, at everything uh since a thousand has been announced. 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:17.039 I even think it's on the like the solicitations like to order. 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.519 It's like this issue will change Peter Parker's life forever. 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:22.080 Yeah. 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.519 Does it? 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:25.679 Doesn't really feel like it. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:27.440 No, so let's go. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:28.480 You want to go through the story? 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:29.759 I say let's get straight into it. 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.840 Okay, let's get straight into issue a thousand. 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:39.279 So picking off picking up from the story is uh apparently in 999 there was uh Aunt May had a stroke. 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.679 And Aunt May is now in the hospital. 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:51.200 And Peter is just swinging through the city to get to her as fast as he possibly can, and all he can think about is how Aunt May had a stroke, and uh he he

just needs to get there. 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:56.159 So he gets there, but this is something that connected to Death Spiral, right? 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:02.879 Um, that Peter Parker has a cousin uh who is Aunt May and Uncle Ben's biological son. 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:03.519 Yes. 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:10.960 And um now how I In this story it's revealed that uh that they thought he was a stillbirth. 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:11.360 Yes. 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.399 Which I'm kind of confused on stillbirth. 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.279 Just that's just when a baby's born and they're they they've passed. 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:17.759 Right. 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:18.159 Okay. 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:27.679 That makes no sense because uh because sorry, in one of the old Venom books that came out, Venom, when he had sleeper, it said that it was a steelbirth and then it was just alive. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.240 Anyway, never that's that's just a complete side saying so. 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.000 Anytime I hear someone say it's a steelbirth, I'm like, so is it alive? 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:35.360 Like I'm still anyway. 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.120 But yes, apparently they thought it was a steelbirth, and they thought they had lost the child. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:41.039 But instead the child was kidnapped. 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:41.519 Yes. 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.519 Um and this child's name is uh what's his name? 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:46.240 Cormac. 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.159 Cormac, which is a very weird name. 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:48.639 Yeah. 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:53.519 But he has been he's been grown, he's grown up with a completely different family. 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:54.799 We don't know anything about that. 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.960 Again, we haven't been reading Amazing, so if that's been covered, sorry, we we missed it. 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:00.080 Um losers. 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.639 Yeah, yeah, gosh, so we just don't, you know, yeah, you know. 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:04.879 I stopped after Dan Slott left. 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:06.240 The best writer ever. 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:07.360 Or one of the best writers ever. 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:07.919 Anyway. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:16.879 Um, but uh so uh this issue opens with him going to Aunt May at the hospital, and Cormac is there. 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:23.600 Cormac is there, and Cormac is standing there, sitting there with M uh with Aunt May, and he's like, Aunt May, I got here as fast as I could. 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:25.120 And she wakes up. 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.440 And when Aunt May wakes up, she's like, Oh, Cormac, you're here. 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:30.480 Who are you? 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:31.600 And looks at Peter. 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:31.919 Yeah. 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.159 And Peter's like, Oh, it's it's me, Aunt May. 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.320 It's me, it's it's it's your nephew, Peter Parker. 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:41.039 And she like jerks her hand away from him, like as he's holding her hand, and she's like, I don't I don't know who you are. 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:47.120 So Peter and Cormac go outside because Cormac wants to talk with him, and they're in a chapel, they're in like a hospital chapel is what it looks like. 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.320 And he Peter's crying because he's like, She's forgot me. 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.240 Like she's she doesn't even know who I am. 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.080 And Cormac explains like this is normal with strokes. 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:04.240 Um usually the the victim, unfortunately, you know, has memory loss, and he explains that, and Peter just busts out crying. 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.240 And um you wanna take it over? 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:10.000 I mean, you got it if you want it. 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.799 Um and Cormac just comes up behind Peter while he's crying and just picks him up. 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:16.480 It's just okay. 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:21.600 Yeah, all of a sudden his like suit just is that this is that the robot suit that Peter had for a while? 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:22.240 I have no idea. 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:23.120 It looks like it. 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:23.840 I don't know if it is. 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.879 I just remember there was like a weird robot symbiote-like suit there for a minute when Spider-Man was in space. 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:29.759 Anyway, yeah. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:39.200 Yeah, he picks him up and he's because he knows he's Spider-Man from Death Spiral, which we reviewed a while back, and that was kind of the we were speculating this was gonna be issue a thousand. 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.840 And uh they fight in the hospital. 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:48.399 Peter freaking kicks him across the room and they bust out of the hospital and they're swinging around the city fighting. 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:48.799 Yeah. 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:53.519 And uh do you want to mention the weapon of choice? 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:58.159 So Cormac's weapon, his his name, and I still don't understand this. 00:13:58.320 --> 00:13:59.600 His name is Ravage. 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:12.799 I still don't understand how this is possible because if a character's name is trademarked, and if somebody's a lawyer out there listening, oh yeah, if a character's name is trademarked, how can another company use that character's name? 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:19.279 So Ravage is obviously being used for Soundwaves, little it's the the dog. 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:19.759 Yeah. 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:20.240 Yeah. 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.879 And um so how can Marvel use Ravage for a villain's name? 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.320 How does that circumvent the copyright trademark or whatever? 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:35.039 Maybe because it's not, maybe because when you have a copyright on a character, like okay, so let's let's say you have a copyright on Ravage, right? 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:42.159

It's a specific copyright for a specific thing, but if you make another character named Ravage and it's got this, that, and the other, maybe it it works. 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:47.039 I mean, you've got I mean, I don't know, you've got uh Captain Marvel, right? 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:51.519 There's a Captain Marvel in Marvel and there's a Captain Marvel changed to super uh Shazam. 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.759 Yeah, but that was a legal battle that they went through. 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:54.799 That's why that changed. 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:55.200 Huh. 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:00.159 So I don't know, like, hey, Transformers, sue the pants off of Marvel right now. 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:01.600 And do not hire Al Yun. 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.360 No, no, yeah, no one's worried about it. 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.440 They're just like, uh, no one's gonna remember this villain. 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:07.120 Yeah, yeah, honestly. 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.919 I guess it's just gonna be a little but anyway. 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:24.559 So the weapon of choice of Ravage is um that he literally takes the memories of Aunt May, of all the memories where Peter's integrated into them, and he turns them into basically a staff. 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:26.399 I guess it's like a weird sword. 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.000 Yeah, sword staff. 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:32.559 And he's like, This is all the memories, and I'm gonna beat you with it. 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:34.720 I'm gonna beat you with your memories. 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:40.080 Okay, I have no problem with a villain like ripping memories out of people. 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:40.720 Yes. 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:49.679 I have a little bit of a problem where you take memories which are not tangible, and I know somebody's out there like, but Clayton, it's a comic book. 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:54.080 Well, actually, Clayton, let me tell you about the memory chain brain thing. 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.320 Um, but memories aren't tangible. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:02.159 So how do you take something that is not tangible and turn it into a tangible weapon to beat Peter Parker with? 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.240 Where does he even get his powers from? 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:05.039 I have no idea. 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:06.720 He's just okay. 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:07.759 Maybe we just didn't read that. 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:08.720 Maybe we just didn't read it. 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.759 I'm I I'm cutting a I I'm giving a lot of slight to this story. 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:12.399 Yeah, you can't. 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.120 For the sake of I've not read anything else that came to before. 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:15.840 Right, right. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.799 So maybe if we read what came before, it might be explained. 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:19.200 Yeah. 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:20.320 But we didn't. 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:30.240 I also have a feeling it's probably going to be one of those things that's if

they were just throwing it out there now for a thousand, and then it'll be later on, they'll explain it for a thousand one or two or whatever. 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:30.960 Right, right. 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:32.080 That's what I think, anyways. 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.879 But they they fight through the city and they end up landing on one of those, what are those things called? 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:39.279 Like the it's I want to call them a trolley, but that's not what it's like. 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:47.200 It's like one of the it's like if you've seen Spider-Man one, Tobey McGuire, Spider-Man one, the final fight where he fights Green Goblin and all the people are in the little trolley thing, that's what they're fighting on. 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:48.000 Yeah, on like the cables. 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:49.759 It's like the cables that go, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:50.320 I don't even know. 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:51.600 I don't even think those are in New York City. 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.639 Is that it might be a cable car, that might be what's car. 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:58.399 Yeah, but so they're fighting on that, and and Peter's not talking. 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:10.160 Like, yeah, like it's all and I think also when when uh Ravage hits Spider-Man with the weapon, he can see the memory too, because it gets to the point where you're looking in the memories and he's actually commenting on it. 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:19.279 Yeah, there and you know, like Ant May is like worried that, like, oh Ben, I hope we've raised a good, you know, like I look at him like a son, I hope we've raised him right, and you know, we've done this right. 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:25.519 And when we actually see Peter's memories, we see that you know, we see what actually happened. 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:31.279 Peter let the robber go, and we get the origin story again of you know how Uncle Ben died. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:35.440 So Cormac is like, You are the one who killed my father. 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:39.039 You caused this, which was like, oh, oh shit. 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.720 Yeah, like why were you attacking Peter beforehand? 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:45.759 Just like, oh, I'm bad guy, so bad guy beat you up. 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:50.000 I think he's attacking him because he's like, you know, you've stole you stole my life. 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:54.480 I think that's kind of like the main premise because he he kind of talks like you've stole you've stolen my life. 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:54.960 Right, right. 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:55.279 He does. 00:17:55.519 --> 00:18:04.160 And yeah, so when he finds out that Peter uh killed uh Uncle Ben Uncle Ben, uh he's he's even more pissed and now he wants to kill him. 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:09.119 Also, I don't know if we mentioned, but he also is the one who removed his memory from Amy. 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:09.759 Right. 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.079 He said, I I took her your memories away from her. 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:12.559 Yeah. 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:17.440 And in doing so, Spider-Man with like this is one of those moments where Spider-Man doesn't joke. 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.519 And this is this this this scene right here is what like initiated my review. 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:30.559 Because like uh we we're gonna rate these, and we're gonna rate each one of them uh from one to eight, one being the best story, eight being the the least best story. 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:45.759 Um, this this almost this called it really close for me to get it up there because Spider-Man just silently starts going going at him and he breaks his arm, he wraps his body around his arm and bends his back backwards and breaks his arm backwards. 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:53.359 And I was like, ooh, oh, dang, dang, okay, like working somewhere, yeah. 00:18:53.440 --> 00:19:01.519 I like this, and um finally he's like, I just I gotta get back to Aunt May, and he starts to swing back to Aunt May, and that's the end of this story. 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.480 Yeah, so um go you you tell me what you think. 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:13.920 Okay, overall, like you had mentioned while we were planning this episode that maybe we should do like an art breakdown. 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:19.279 Um, and if that's the case, this is probably my favorite artist of the book, Peppy Miller. 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.519 Yeah, um, I really love the art. 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.279 I think it it's just so beautiful. 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:24.319 The color palettes. 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:31.440 This is the same artist who did um the Marvel version of the Superman Spider-Man story where uh Venomized Superman. 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:31.920 Yeah, yeah. 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:33.039 It's the same artist. 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.759 Yeah, uh, I think it's incredible artwork. 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:42.559 Um story wise, if the whole issue was built around this, then that would be great. 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:56.000 Also, I have a problem with this story because it's not what they advertise, and that's why for me it low it it gets knocked down a few points because I hate it when comic companies or any company really says, This is gonna be this thing, and we're gonna promote it like this thing. 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:59.759 Yeah, and and I'm telling you, it's gonna be about this, and then you get it. 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.400 America's life is gonna change forever, and then it's nothing. 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.519 Yeah, because this story, which is we talked about it on the phone. 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.400 I was like, you know, this story didn't really, or maybe I don't know if we did it or we didn't. 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:08.880 We did, we did. 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:14.960 But I was like, I said, you know, this story doesn't really like I'm we compared this to 800, right? 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:26.640 800 is clearly our favorite milestone issue, and like

you know, I'm not saying it's a fair comparison by any means, but it's just what what this issue should have been is it should have been all focused on this story. 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:38.960 I think I think this issue should have been like this whole thing with him and the fate of Aunt May and all that stuff should have been this whole book, not okay, well now you gotta pick up issue a thousand and one to figure it out. 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:48.400 Because that's what it's doing, because a lot more people are gonna pick up a thousand and you know, then like because honestly, I'll be honest, when I finished that that story, I was like, I kind of want to pick up a thousand and one to see what happens. 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:50.640 Yeah, but I don't feel like it's gonna be executed very well. 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:55.039 No, um, and again, this being the advertised like his life will change forever. 00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:02.079 The only thing that happened in this story that changed his life forever was that she lost her memory, which can be fixable. 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:06.240 Knowing comics, it's gonna be fixed, especially if you we can turn her memories into weapons. 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:07.920 I think we can put them back where they came from. 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:11.279 If we can sell our marriages to put that thing back where they came from or so, help me. 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.400 So help me, so help me. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:25.519 Um but yeah, uh, so it it is a very much by the next issue to know the next story. 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:27.119 Next time on Spider-Man. 00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.880 Next time, don't you don't want to miss next week's episode of The Amazing Spider-Man. 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:32.480 Yeah, episode 1001. 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.880 Um but so overall the story's okay for me. 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:38.480 Yeah, it's not what they advertised. 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:39.599 Art is great. 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:44.880 So for me personally, this ranks number five on my list. 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.799 Um, this ranks for me number four. 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:47.920 So pretty close. 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:48.559 Pretty close. 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:56.400 This was hard because uh when I did my rating, I did it from worst to best because I I was like, I know what I don't like and I know roughly what I like. 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:03.839 Yeah, but um the the scene where Spider Man broke bad there for Minute, I was I was getting kind of excited because I I would love to have a story like that. 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.440 That would especially we see, especially that's like a thing that's normal in the Daredevil comics. 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.319 Is every time Spider-Man shows up, he's like, You're done. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.640 Yeah, like it's like, oh, he's scary. 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.200 I I love seeing the post is like, what's scarier? 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:17.599 Batman smiling or Spider-Man being quiet? 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:20.079 Honestly, Spider-Man being quiet. 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.880 Batman can break my bones, but Spider-Man can obliterate me with one punch. 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:28.000 The end of the killing joke did not scare me. 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.519 And he laughed in that one. 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:30.160 Yeah. 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:31.759 Um, yeah. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:38.400 So number five for me, I'm trying to think there was something else I was gonna say, and I've missed I've forgotten it, so it doesn't even matter. 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.519 Is it about uh Raven? 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.559 No, no, I I can't remember what it is. 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:49.599 Um I I if this I think like we've reiterated already. 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.039 I think if the rest of the issue was just this story, that would have been fine with me. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:53.279 Yeah. 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:54.559 And just finish it out. 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:57.680 But um, oh, I remember what it was now that we're talking. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:02.799 Um Aunt May's memories, like we know it's gonna come back, so yeah, it's not gonna change anything. 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.839 And and Peter Parker's life has not changed other than for what, probably five issues. 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:09.599 Aunt May doesn't remember who he is. 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:09.920 Yeah. 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.240 He's like, Oh, I'm gonna lose Aunt May. 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.599 The the deal I made with Mephisto so long ago is now coming back to bite me. 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:16.000 Oh no. 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:17.039 Yeah, I know. 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:26.000 Which which I can't say anything because I did say I liked that story, but I only liked it for the fact that it's to rephrase everybody. 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.359 One more day I think is a good story, but I don't think it's good for the long haul. 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.960 Anyway, go listen to our episode. 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:33.359 Do not hate me. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:34.720 I have a better explanation. 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.799 Just just just just hear me out. 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.440 Okay, so is there anything else you want to say on that side? 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:40.160 I'm ready to move on. 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:40.960 Okay, the next story. 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:42.720 This next story is a lot better. 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:43.599 It it is. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.680 So this story is set in the future. 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.279 Yes, many, many years in the future. 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.319 And this actually feels like a celebration of Spider-Man. 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:53.119 This feels like Spider-Man life story, one of my favorite stories. 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:54.160 Oh, I love life stories. 00:23:54.799 --> 00:24:00.799 And it because Peter Parker is old, and there's a mention that they say, Well, you you were

Spider-Man for 60 years. 00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.240 Um, so this is Peter Parker in a nursing home. 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.400 And um he's just he's really just living a decent life. 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:08.720 Yeah. 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:16.400 Like he's got on his um his his nightstand, like a picture of him and MJ getting married and on all this stuff. 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:21.440 It is he has a son, he has grandkids, and they come and visit him in the nursing home. 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.160 And then one day um the nurse is like, Peter, there's somebody to see you today. 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.200 And it's an old Gwen Stacy. 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:32.799 And Peter's like, What? 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:33.519 How are you here? 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:34.480 Like, this isn't real. 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:35.519 Like, oh my gosh. 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:38.720 And she's like, I just wanted to come and say hi to you. 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:39.359 Like, it's real. 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.759 And we're getting flashbacks to like when they were younger. 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:42.079 Yeah. 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:43.759 Uh, and that's some of my favorite art. 00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:48.000 Like, Patrick Gleason did the art for this, and like those flashbacks I just oh. 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.920 It's really good to see him do interior. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:51.200 I haven't seen him do interior in a while. 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.039 I haven't either, and it's so good. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:59.200 Um and then uh she goes away and he's telling everybody Gwen stopped by. 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:06.559 Gwynn Gwen was here, and they're like, Dad, Gwen's been gone for 60 years, like she's been gone for a long time. 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:07.599 She she's not here. 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:16.960 And um then Peter's like, well, maybe maybe I since I did stop taking the medicine, maybe maybe she wasn't here. 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.200 Maybe I'm just kind of going crazy or whatever. 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.119 And then she shows up again and she says, Peter, I'm here. 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:24.160 I don't have a lot of time. 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:25.200 That was really me. 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:26.480 I'm I'm here to talk to you. 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:28.559 But they're take they're they're here to take me away. 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:29.039 Yeah. 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:36.079 And uh he goes in, he like goes to her room to protect her, and he's like, what, like vampire zombie looking things? 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:38.079 Vampire thug looking guys, yeah. 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.319 Are trying to get her, and he's like, I'll never stop. 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.160 He's like, I'll never let anything take her. 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:43.039 And he punches. 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:47.599 Did you notice when he punches the one you can see like the silhouette of Spider-Man up in the corner? 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:48.640 I didn't notice that. 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.160 There is a it's like above the door, it almost looks like the black suit. 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.880 Like it's just like a it's like the the head and the eyes are like kind like it's really cool. 00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:01.680 Um I love Patrick Gleason's art because he's so creative with like the way he puts things in there. 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:02.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:08.880 But um, yeah, and it turns out it's just the the orderlies, just the regular nurses there. 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.720 I was like, hey, calm down, Peter. 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:11.279 Mr. 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:11.519 P. 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:12.160 They call him Mr. 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:12.319 P. 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:13.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.160 Um they call me Mr. 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:16.640 P. 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:22.799 It's Mr. 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:23.759 P to you. 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:24.640 Yeah, buckle. 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:34.000 So he keeps like thinking he's going crazy, and he's telling his son, and his son, and and even the nurses are like uh telling Peter's son, like he's going crazy. 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:35.759 Like you know, he's seeing things. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:42.799 We flip to Spider-Man, and uh he's like on his phone, he's on the like the Statue of Liberty, and he's got people webbed up. 00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:43.759 He's eating like a hot dog. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.359 And this is this is his nephew, I think. 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:46.720 This I think it's his grandson. 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:48.240 Or his grandson, yeah, that's what I meant. 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:48.799 Sorry, my bad. 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:49.039 Yeah. 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.160 And I love that suit. 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.200 It looks so cool. 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:53.359 I love that the eyes are like pointed down. 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:59.119 Did you and he's hanging upside down under the Statue of Liberty with the with like thugs, and he's eating a hot dog. 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:00.319 Yeah, like that's so cool. 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:01.759 And he's like, hmm. 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:02.559 Yeah. 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:09.680 And uh he he goes and investigates and he goes back to the nursing home and he finds an old man there. 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.680 And he says, I know it was you. 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:17.440 And the old man is He's like, like, put up the like stop the act. 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.240 I know it's you. 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:18.640 Yeah. 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.720 And uh he's like, fine, I'll I'll give it up. 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.880 And he pulls out like a an uh a medallion. 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.559 Like a medallion necklace thing, yeah. 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.240 And uh he's like, Well, how'd you figure it out? 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:35.359 He's like, Well, my grandfather trained me with everything that he knows, and he

passed it on to me, and my grandfather was the best hero there ever was. 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:39.279 Yeah, and uh he's like, I know who you really are, Mysterio. 00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:43.680 And Mysterio's like, Well, he hurt me, so I thought I'd hurt him back. 00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:48.880 And um, then I realized it's not as fulfilling as I thought it would be. 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.680 Yeah, and he's like, But I can give him something. 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.559 And so Mysterio goes to Peter and he's like, Yeah, it was me. 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.559 I just really wanted to hurt you, and uh, you hurt me and you ruined my life. 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.640 And Peter's like, Well, it was never anything personal. 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:03.359 I hope you know that. 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.400 Like, yeah, I just doing what I felt was right. 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.400 And um Mysterio finally says, You know what? 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.240 I don't want to die on revenge. 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.200 I'm dying anyways. 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:14.640 I don't want to die with revenge. 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.720 I want you to have a final moment with it. 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:23.440 And he holds out the ring and he gives it to Peter, and it he says, It will be real, it will be her, actually. 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.559 And Peter, and he's like, This is all I want to give you. 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:35.839 And you see Peter take the ring, and you see like this bright light, and Gwen appears like as as she was when she was younger. 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:45.279 And um, I really again I love Patrick Gleason's art because like the next two pages are just like it's shown from the window outside the window. 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:46.799 It's like outside the window looking in. 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:53.759 And you just slowly see like this what like ghosts, this phantom version of Gwen, just like walk closer to Peter. 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.960 Yeah, and it's just each panel is just that. 00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:57.920 It's just them talking. 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.799 And you just you don't know what they're what he's saying because he's you know, tell you know say what you need to say. 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.720 And he's like, You only got a few minutes. 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:05.039 Yeah. 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:15.920 And and he's sitting in there, he's just sitting in the room with his head down, like listening to this, which is like, dang, like you're you're listening to your art like I guess one of your art like the series arch nemesis is gonna be Spider-Man. 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:16.240 Right. 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.240 Um you're listening to your arch nemesis talk to the love of his life one last time. 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.319 Like it's it's it's deep. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:31.279 And and then the last page is or or the second to last page is Gwen is like, you it's obviously implied that she's gonna leave. 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:37.519 And Peter like takes her hand and he's like, I just wanna say and she says, You don't have to. 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:38.400 I already know. 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:38.799 Yeah. 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.160 And then she leaves. 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:47.759 And um that's pretty much the end of the story, because his n his grandson and his son come in and like, Dad, I'm so sorry. 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:50.799 Uh we didn't believe you, and everything, yada yada yada. 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.720 And then Peter's like, Oh, it's okay. 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:53.839 I'm I'm happy. 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:59.839 And he looks out the window and they've painted a mural of Spider-Man and on like a on the build on the side of a building. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:00.319 Yeah. 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.079 And uh so that was really sweet. 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:15.920 It was a really like I I immediately was like, like, I was reading it, and it my first thought was like, dang, this is actually uh longer than I thought it was gonna be because normally with these kinds of stories, our complaint is that like the stories are too short. 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.200 They try to do too much with not enough pages, but this time they really fleshed a lot of these out. 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:27.119 But this one's the most fleshed out, yeah, and I was like, I think this one is uh it's so well done. 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:27.359 Yeah. 00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:28.319 It's so well written. 00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.640 And it's it's very like, you know, we don't get to see old Peter because Peter's never gonna get old. 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:33.039 Right. 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.640 But like when we see when we do see it, it's it's almost just like it's really heartwarming, and it's like, dang. 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.279 And one thing about this book that gets me a little bit is that every time Peter is alone, he's just sitting in a chair in his room. 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:45.680 Yeah. 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.640 He's just sitting there, he's just like just existing. 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.039 Yeah. 00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:50.960 And almost like he's like charging, you know. 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.119 Like in this, it's like it's part of me is like, is that what it's like to be old? 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:56.160 Like, is that what it's like? 00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.880 Do you just kind of sit there and just wait for people to come by? 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.440 It kind of it's just it's it's weird. 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:01.759 Yeah. 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:06.799 Um, so this story for me, uh, and I've done a lot of talking for this story, and I I'm sorry. 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.519 No, this this honestly, you this is this one's yours. 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:16.319 Um when I read this story, I kind of I didn't I no tears were produced, but I felt them coming. 00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:16.799 Yeah, yeah. 00:31:16.960 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00:31:18.319 Um, because it was just emotional. 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:35.680 Because for me, this story really spoke to me is um if if I if unfortunately, if Gabriella was to ever go first, my wife was to ever go first, um, and I had the chance like Peter, what would I want to say to her just to be able to talk to her one last time? 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:46.160 And uh that's what got me is like what do you say for somebody who you love and they're gone and you can't like what what do you say in your final words? 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:46.640 Yeah. 00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.440 And um that that kind of got me. 00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:55.519 And um like they were they were starting to form in my eyes of like get back in there. 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:02.559 Um so for me, this story is called Still Standing, and for me, this is my number one story. 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.799 Yep, yeah, I I knew that this was gonna be your number one. 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.559 It's it's very good, and it um it was it was very close to being mine. 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.960 Yeah, it is not my number one, it is my number three. 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:11.519 Okay. 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:20.400 Um, and I have reasons for it being number three, but um I don't have any neck honestly, the only reasons it's number three is because there were two other stories that hit it a little bit better for me. 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.279 But honestly, like I no no notes on this. 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:31.279 This is a really good story, especially for issue a thousand, like and it it honestly, this feels like it was fleshed out more than the main story, yeah, more than Ravenge. 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.039 So, I mean, I I really enjoyed it. 00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.039 It was very hard to put this at three for me because I wanted to put it higher. 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.279 Um, but there was only you know three spots. 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:39.839 Yeah. 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:40.400 Yeah. 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.200 Um so I'll let you do the next story since I talked a lot for this one. 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:44.000 Um, what is the next one? 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:44.960 The rec reel? 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.079 I want to do this one together. 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.160 This is what I want to I still want to do this one together. 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:49.759 This one is this one's interesting. 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:50.480 It is very interesting. 00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.000 Not a lot goes on in this one. 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.279 The this is this is probably one of my favorite art of the one of my favorite art pieces of the whole Humberto Ramos. 00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.240 Humberto Ramos. 00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.200 I I love his art. 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.000 He's got really good art. 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.440 Yes, and it's very nostalgic. 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.440 But this one, um I honestly think it's the colors he uses. 00:33:05.519 -->

00:33:06.559 I don't know if he colors his stuff. 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:07.920 I don't know, but it looks really good. 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:09.119 It does look very good. 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:18.480 Um, but uh in this story, we get uh Peter Parker and uh uh we st we start out at a funeral and it's at Harry Osborne's funeral. 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:23.519 And Peter Parker is looking into the open casket and you see Green, you see Norman Osborne and Harry. 00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:24.720 Or Harry, sorry, my bad. 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:31.680 You see Harry and his eyes are closed, and then in the next panel his eyes are open, and in the next pedal he's starting to smile and slowly look more like the Green Goblin. 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:31.839 Yeah. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:38.880 And then you turn the page and he jumps out of the casket and he's like grabbing Peter, and Peter, ah, Harry, he wakes up and it's a nightmare. 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:40.720 And MJ's like, hey, hey, are you okay? 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:41.200 Are you okay? 00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.000 He's like, I don't know. 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.359 I just he's like, I don't I don't know who the real person is in there. 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.160 I don't know if, you know, was Harry's face the mask or was the Green Goblin the mask? 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.319 Well, who who is the mask on this version? 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.640 And it's a very sweet moment with Harry and or MJ and Peter that we never get. 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.799 I don't I'm surprised we didn't get it more in this in this like slew of things. 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.279 Right. 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:08.480 But like this was uh I think this was about the the biggest like interaction between the two of them in this whole in this book, yeah. 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:17.519 And they um um she's talking like hey, you know, the funerals today, like um he's I think he says, like, I just don't do well with open caskets or something. 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:18.559 I think he says something like that. 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.400 And she's like, Well, I I think if you don't go, you're gonna really wish you did. 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.440 So let's sit at breakfast and we'll we'll go. 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:35.039 And so they get to the the actual funeral and uh Liz is crying and she's you know talking to MJ and Peter kind of slips away. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.840 And the MJ's like, Where'd Peter go? 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:46.159 Well he's swinging through the city now in the Spider-Man costume and goes to the building, I guess where he had passed, or his goblin lair or whatever, right? 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:58.480 Yeah, and when he's in there, he sees an apparition of Green Goblin, Harry Osborne, and they start to talk to each other, and he's he uh I'm this is where it gets a little fuzzy for me. 00:34:58.639 --> 00:34:59.519 He starts like, what is it? 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.400 He sees like, you know,

I don't know who the real you is. 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:11.039 Yeah, that's the conversation that they have is it ties back to there in the very beginning, is um Peter is is like, Well, I don't know who the real Harry was. 00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.760 Like, were you my friend or were you the goblin? 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.920 And even Harry is like, well, isn't that the whole point about mask? 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.119 We put on what people want to see and hiding back the thing. 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:26.559 He's like, You experienced a traumatic childhood and you became you know Spider Man. 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.760 Um, but you could have very easily become me. 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.000 It's just the mask we choose to put on. 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:37.679 And then Norman shows up and he's like, Don't let my milksop of a son lie to you. 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.760 Like he he is an Osborne boy, and Osborne boys, we we all have our inner demons. 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:52.400 And that's just the way life is, and my dad had it, and his dad had it, and I had it, and Harry has it. 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:59.920 We all have this inner demon in us, and this is just who we're meant to be, and this whole thing with masks just mean nothing. 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:07.920 And uh and and then it's literally the meme uh of when of the meme with like the woman. 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.000 And the person's holding the back of the biggest. 00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:14.159 Like this is literally your cause. 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:19.119 And Norman's just sitting there with a smirk on it, and Harry's like holding Peter backing Peter back. 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:26.800 Um but yeah, he he he aggressively goes after this apparition of Norman, being like, you know, hey, you're the reason for this. 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.480 Like you have no room to talk. 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.320 You're you're a narcissistic jerk. 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:30.800 Right. 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:40.960 And um how does it conclude with them in the it's pretty much that ending, it's just like it's you're left with that question of who is the mask and who is the real person. 00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:41.519 Yeah. 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:46.239 And um the apparitions fade away, and then Peter shows back up at the funeral. 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.760 Um and MJ's like, Where'd you go? 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679 And he's like, I just I had to go take care of something. 00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.960 And then that's kind of it. 00:36:51.199 --> 00:37:00.000 That's kind of it well, he says uh because MJ says something like, Well, um like how are you gonna remember Harry or something like that? 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719 And Peter's like, I'm I'm not worried about it. 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.159 I'll always know what I need to go back to in order to remember who he really was. 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:06.800 Yeah. 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.239 And it cuts to the the goblin mask. 00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.920 Yeah, it's the goblin mask on the ground with a spider crawling on it. 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.280 Um story was it's is okay. 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:17.760 It's okay. 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.199 The art is what does this one for me? 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:21.280 This one, the art for this is amazing. 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.199 I love uh Humberto Ramos doing Spider-Man and Green Goblin. 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.599 That's just like the the there's the color composition in that that lineup is always really good. 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.440 I kind of wish I got the cover for this one. 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:31.920 Yeah. 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.599 Um, because it uh he draws Peter very differently than normal. 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.079 He draws Peter to look like Andrew Garfield in this. 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:38.800 And I don't hate it. 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:39.840 I actually I like it. 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:41.119 I like the way he draws MJ. 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:42.079 MJ looks good. 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.960 Like it it they it looks it's a very cool cover. 00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:45.360 Yeah. 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.920 Um but reading this, I was like, oh, that's this is I I like the I like the visionary of this. 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:52.320 The story's kind of it could have been better. 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.519 I think the story makes more sense, and it's been so many, so, so many years since I've read it. 00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.920 Is it Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-Man? 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.679 Or is it like 300 where where Harry dies as goblin? 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.199 Uh and that's a really good issue. 00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:09.199 But um, I think JM Dematis did that and he did this story as well. 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.159 So I think it's just him just continuing that story. 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:13.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:14.079 Which is is good. 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:26.079 I I I it feels weird for Peter, me personally, my my gripe about this is it feels weird for Peter to leave a funeral just to go have an imaginary conversation in the goblin hideout. 00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:26.559 Yeah. 00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.239 Like I feel like this would have been better. 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:36.400 Imagine a mat, like, I don't know, like I feel like this would have been better during the funeral ceremony, like people are up there talking and he's envisioning this as the funeral's playing out. 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:42.159 I just feel like him leaving is almost disrespectful to Harry, and it just makes him look really bad. 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:42.559 Yeah. 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:43.360 Um, I don't know. 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.000 It's just it it it's like he literally left to have a conversation with himself and then come right back. 00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:48.480 Yeah. 00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:49.119 You know what I mean? 00:38:49.360 -->

00:38:50.480 That's exactly what it feels like. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.039 I don't know. 00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:53.440 Um and like what, 10 minutes passed? 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.840 Yeah, and then it's like a 10-minute thing, and then he swings right back, and then it's just everything's fine and dandy. 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.639 It was nice to see Peter and MJ actually be together. 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.840 Yeah, being together. 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:04.320 And I just I miss that so much. 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:05.519 I miss that really bad. 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.000 Um, that would have been a great thing to have an issue with house. 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.760 Peter's life has changed forever. 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.719 He gets married again. 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.360 Well, that you know that doesn't happen. 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:18.320 When we were talking, I think at theorizing back with 800, we were like, what if they get married again? 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.400 Yeah, that was the Yeah, nope. 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.239 Marvel's just like, we don't really care. 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:23.280 We don't want that to happen. 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.239 That's what everybody wants. 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:25.280 We can't give them that. 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.960 We have to give them this other story about the uh cousin that was just takes memories and sorts. 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:32.400 Turns it into yeah. 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:36.880 We're the most tone-deaf company in the world. 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.159 Um fans. 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:38.880 What fans? 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:39.119 Yeah. 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.039 So how where do you rank this story? 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.039 I rank this story number five. 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:48.559 Um this was a clear number five because this was right kind of in the middle of everything for me. 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:56.320 Because number six, six, seven, and eight for me are like my I didn't really like these stories, but my one through threes were like, I definitely like these. 00:39:56.480 --> 00:40:01.519 So four and five were my kind of um my just my iffy. 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.199 Like I like this, but I wish it had I I wish for more. 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:05.679 Yeah. 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.960 I guess if that makes sense. 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.199 But art wise, number one. 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:09.679 Really? 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.679 I think the art for this is is amazing. 00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.599 Now, now, well, I don't know, because there's other stuff that has better art. 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.000 I don't know. 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.679 It it it's it's it's just that nostalgia. 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:19.199 It's the nostalgia, yeah. 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:27.119 I love that just the style, and especially like it's it's altered to look newer, so it's like a new nostalgia, new old nostalgia. 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:27.519 I don't know. 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:28.239 Well, what about you? 00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:28.880 What do you rank it? 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:29.920 This is number six for me. 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:30.559 Number six. 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:31.199 We're getting pretty close. 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:32.320 We're still pretty close. 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:33.360 Close on tie. 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.039 We're we're we're basically the same person. 00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:36.480 Why did you rate this number six? 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:40.800 Um, just because uh basically because of the same reasons you did. 00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.559 I mean, it's it's I I just wish for more. 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:44.880 Yeah. 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.000 Um the art is great. 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.239 I I love Humberto Ramos's art. 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:56.960 Um, but ultimately it it it it does just feel like Peter leaves just to go have a conversation with himself, which does feel disrespectful to Harry, his best friend. 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.960 Um it is like here's Peter and MJ. 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.079 Isn't that nice? 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.400 Now just that doesn't matter to the story. 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:04.880 Yeah. 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.079 Um and and I loved them having that conversation at the beginning. 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:09.840 Like uh the I don't know who's there. 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:13.760 Like I love I love it when MJ kind of coaches Peter a little bit. 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.639 Like like she kind of helps him. 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:18.239 She's his she's his helper. 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:18.719 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:25.679 And I I love that because it's just like Spider-Man is just going to her and she's and she's and she's more than likely always right. 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.599 You know, she's always giving good advice, you know, and unless she's Venom. 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:31.679 That's a different story. 00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.840 But but yeah, I I think this I think the same thing. 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:41.760 And I think that this didn't feel like a celebratory issue or celebratory story. 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.760 It was let's just look back at a uh monumental milestone. 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:46.320 Yeah, yeah. 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.840 Which in the grand scheme of things, is the death of Harry Osborne really the biggest thing that happens in Peter's life? 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:52.639 No. 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.960 Yeah, so is it really it just to me doesn't feel celebration? 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:01.440 Yeah, well, according to Marvel, the biggest thing that happened in his life is supposed to take place in this issue. 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.480 Yeah. 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:03.679 Well, okay. 00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:05.840 So moving on to the next story. 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.239 Tears of the Spider Queen. 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.480 I'll let you

take yeah, I'll let you take this one. 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:10.800 Yeah. 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:11.679 This is weird. 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.760 This is a very I I'm still a little iffy on the story of this one. 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.480 So my clear, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of, it's very like ambiguous storytelling. 00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:20.719 Yeah. 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:28.239 Uh so it's uh there are these these cults members that are about to kidnap this girl who is skateboarding on the street. 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:28.480 Yeah. 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:30.559 And they kidnap her and take her into the sewers. 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:40.559 Well, Spider-Man gets word of this and he goes into the sewers to catch her, and she has morphed into a giant spider monster, um, and in which the these people worship her. 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:41.039 Yeah. 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.079 And it's kind of the the the art in this is very good. 00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.280 It's all watercolor. 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:46.480 It's Peach Momoko. 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:47.199 Amazing. 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.800 I love Peach Mamoko's work, and especially doing the giant spider was great on her part. 00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.559 That was this was a good story pick for her. 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:52.960 Yeah. 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:59.840 Um, because it it's it's almost it's haunting because like her upper, like she's the spider, but uh her underbelly has her legs hanging down. 00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:00.079 Yeah. 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.760 So it's almost just like it's like you can see the humanity still there. 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:04.159 Right, right. 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:05.199 It's freaky. 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:21.119 Um, so uh Spider-Man pretty much well, she starts to kill and eat the cult members in the sewer, and finally Spider-Man kind of stops her and she turns back to normal, and then he kind of just walks out with her, telling her that he'll protect her. 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:21.440 Yes. 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.800 And that's kind of the end of the story. 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.599 In terms of now, again, I may have missed the the the narrative aspect of this. 00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.920 Um, but this thing just didn't have a lot. 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.280 It was just kind of it was just kind of like it this one clearly felt like it was more about the imagery. 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:35.599 Yeah. 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:41.599 And it was clearly like, hey, Peach Mamoko's drawing this, you're about to it's this is more eye candy than your or than storytelling candy, you know. 00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:43.519 Because this was Frank Miller who wrote this. 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:43.920 Yes. 00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.159 And Frank Miller's known for great works, but this did not feel like Frank Miller. 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:54.239 Well, maybe and again, maybe maybe giving it the benefit of the doubt, maybe there's more

to it than meets the eye. 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.159 But honestly Honestly, like I think that they're there like if I read this a second time, I may pick up on things better. 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:04.719 I don't know. 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.920 I should I should read it again. 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:13.920 I only read it the once, but like um but uh artistic wise, very beautiful colors, very beautiful paint work. 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:16.320 Story, eh I give it a six. 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:17.280 Really? 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:18.880 This is this was a six for me. 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:24.880 So I still think it's better than the other stories, than the the last like I um I know you ranked it higher than I did. 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:26.880 Or lower, sorry, you ranked it lower. 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.880 Um you ranked it lower than I did, but I think there are two other stories that are worse than this one. 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:32.960 I I like the eye candy of this story. 00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:37.039 Like I'm getting when I read this, I immediately flipping through the book, I was like, oh, this is Peach Mamoko. 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:37.840 Oh man. 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.199 And I was just like excited to just look at it more than I was to read it. 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:45.119 So that's what made this a six. 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:45.679 Okay. 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:47.679 So for me, this is my least favorite story. 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:48.719 This is number eight for you. 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:49.360 But yes. 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:49.760 Wow. 00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:58.480 But as I said on the phone to you, that my bottom two, story seven and eight for me, are interchangeable, honestly. 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.119 Like they they're both okay. 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:06.000 Do you think that this is worth a change, or do you think it it's it's sitting where it should be? 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.719 I for me it's still gonna be sitting where it should be. 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:08.960 Yeah. 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.400 Um Peach Mamoko's art is the only thing that really elevates it. 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:20.079 Um, and at the end, I think the message is kind of like Spider-Man will always be there, Spider-Man will protect you, um, kind of thing story. 00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.159 Um, but that's not really elaborated. 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:26.239 The one part that I did laugh at is like uh there's a picture of a rat. 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:31.119 And Spotty's like, Mickey here is gonna show me the way. 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:33.519 Like a gross rat. 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.239 It's not like overthrow your corpse over the lord. 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.920 Way to freaking way to rip apart your uh your your your manager in the most subtle way. 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.840 That's something I've been noticed about comics. 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.199 It feels like there's a lot of little slight jabs every once in a while in comic books. 00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:58.639 I feel like I'm seeing that more and more. 00:45:58.800 --> 00:45:59.119 Yeah. 00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.599 But um, but yeah, I give this a six. 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:02.719 I think it's it's good. 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:03.920 Uh it could be better. 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.920 Um, it's more of the eye candy that gets at a six rather than the story. 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:08.400 Right. 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.360 And there's nothing wrong with letting your art tell your story. 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:12.719 That's that's what comics are. 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.400 That's why they're not novels. 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.280 They the art is supposed to elevate the story. 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.199 Um, but your art, your art can't do all your heavy lifting, and your writing can't do all your heavy lifting. 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.519 They have to work together, I think, to tell a perfect story. 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:31.440 And I just think the art is the only thing pushing this story here, and the the writing is just base level. 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.280 Yeah, I I I agree. 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:34.880 And and yeah, I agree. 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:38.880 So uh moving on to the next story that I really like, so I'm gonna take this one. 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:39.280 Okay. 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:47.360 This is a story written by Triple H, the wrest WWE wrestler, and uh drawn by Ed McGuinness. 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:48.480 I love Ed McGuinness. 00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.719 I love I love his Superman the most, but his Spider-Man's really good. 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:53.199 Okay. 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.480 Um, but anyways, this is a story about young Peter. 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.840 Very young Peter. 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.199 What, like, is he I want to say he's like eight or nine, maybe ten. 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:02.480 Yeah, six or seven. 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:03.360 No. 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:18.800 But um, so this it we kind of see a little bit of a flashback, and it's Uncle Ben, and he is just like, he's worked overtime, he's worked extra shifts, he's he's really done this. 00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.119 And young Peter comes home and he's like, Did you can we go? 00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.159 Can we do I've all my whole books made all A's on my report card? 00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:26.880 Blah blah blah blah. 00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.440 And Uncle Ben's like, Oh, I just don't know, Peter. 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.480 I don't think I was able to work enough, and I just it's really expensive. 00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.320 He's like, Uncle Ben, come on. 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.039 Yeah, and he's like, I got them right here. 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:38.719 I got you. 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:40.000 I got it. 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.599 I'm a winner, see my prize, you're losers, it's in crystal. 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.519 But um, so they they go and Aunt May's like, go

have fun, you you two. 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:56.239 We don't really know like what they're going to yet, but we just know Uncle Ben's got tickets for something. 00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:03.280 And it's like they go through the drive-thru of a restaurant uh uh of a fast food chain real quick, and um they're at Taco Bell. 00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:10.960 And yeah, yeah, and um Peter is sitting in the passenger seat and he's just I don't know, he's just like playing with his action figures. 00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:20.800 Well, you know, he's he's sitting there, he's like, I don't know if I should get a hoodie, or if I should get a t-shirt, or if I should get a hoodie and a t-shirt, or maybe I should just get this, or maybe just like and then Uncle Ben just kind of looks at him and he's just like outlets. 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:26.239 Yeah, he he says, you know, Peter, you're a really good kid, and you try your hardest. 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:39.679 And I just want you to know that me and Aunt May are really proud of you, and never change who you are, always always stay who you are, um, because you have a good heart and you care for people, and and that is good in this world. 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.360 And he went, but I didn't do anything. 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.519 Yeah, which is like that's the most relatable. 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:44.559 Yeah, you didn't do nothing. 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.039 What do you mean? 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.440 And he's but being a dad, like it's like you just you just exist. 00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.000 Yeah, and it's just like I I'm so proud of you. 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:53.199 And that's really what he says. 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:54.639 I'm I'm proud of you, Peter. 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.079 Yeah, and and Peter's response was okay, Mr. 00:48:58.159 --> 00:48:58.880 Sentimental. 00:48:59.199 --> 00:48:59.679 Like, let's see. 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:03.280 I'm like, Oh, okay, yeah, you're definitely like a an eight-year-old boy. 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:04.239 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:10.800 Um and he's like, I let's just go to the game, and and and and Ben is like, okay. 00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:24.239 And um then we turn and we see like these wrestlers, and they're one's like doing a suplex or something, and and Peter's like, yeah, get him! You know, he's super excited, and then we cut to the present day, yeah. 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:32.400 And um, they're all like cheering on the wrestlers, and then we look up in the rafters, and Peter is there in a Spider-Man suit eating popcorn. 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:33.840 He's like cheering them on, yeah. 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:35.360 And I really like this story. 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.199 And he's holding a picture of him and Uncle Ben. 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:38.880 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:41.440 This was a really good story. 00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:43.679 I ranked it a little lower. 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:44.239 Really? 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:44.559 Okay. 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.320 It's it's number seven for me. 00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:50.800 Oh my goodness. 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:52.960 The only reason is it felt very short. 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:53.760 It was very short. 00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.199 It was very just like it was just like an awe sentimental moment. 00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:00.559 And I was just like, this is more about Uncle Ben and I don't know. 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:01.920 I I think I just was like, eh. 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:03.360 Okay, okay. 00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:04.800 This one just sucked, Clayton. 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.519 Get better tape. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:06.079 I'm kidding. 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:09.119 Um, no, I I don't know. 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:15.679 I just I I like I I rated it a seven just because uh I don't again, a lot of stories to sift through here. 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:16.079 Okay. 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:17.679 And I'm not a big fan of the artist. 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.199 You don't like Ed McGinnis? 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:19.679 Not really. 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:26.239 I after seeing the whole like Green Goblin, the amazing Green Goblin thing that they did, it kind of just turned me off to his art. 00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.440 Oh, when they did the when they did the Spider-Man Green Goblin thing. 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.159 Yeah, I exactly. 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.599 So once I like that's the only like thing that I really remember of his art. 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:37.599 And he did, he also did Death Spiral, and I he did a lot of like the the art in it. 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:44.079 And I just it just looked very like like it looked very like Disney XD kind of art a little bit. 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:48.239 For me personally, his his art really took off in the early 2000s. 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:48.800 Right, right. 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:53.280 So he was really big then, and he was working for DC, and and I just really like it. 00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:57.280 You've you've yeah, you've been and I've not been you've been exposed to his art way more than I am. 00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:58.079 Yeah. 00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:08.239 Um but it but it is a good sentimental story, and especially where you're a dad, like that hits you because like I'm sure you look at your daughter and you're just like, I'm just proud of you for big being here for me. 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:08.880 You know what I mean? 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.840 Like I you know, so and I and I recognize that bias. 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:18.800 Um, and and I think that's honestly probably why, because I've had moments where I just look at her and I'm like, I'm so proud of you. 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.400 And she's like she's like poops in her diaper. 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.039 I'm like you know what? 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:25.920 Amen, brother. 00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:26.719 I'm proud of you. 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.800 Stay who you are, I love you.

00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:38.719 Um and even when she's crying uh and she wakes us all up at two o'clock in the morning, uh, like she did last night. 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.760 I love you. 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:42.559 Um like you still have those moments. 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.760 So I relate to this story. 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:52.320 And I we were talking on the phone earlier, and I think stories where we can put ourselves in these characters meet that's when they mean the most to us. 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:52.719 Yeah. 00:51:53.039 --> 00:52:00.960 You and I were having that conversation earlier because one of your favorite stories is a story where you can put yourself into that place of that character. 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.960 And and so for me, the stories where I I relate, right? 00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:06.400 Uh, that's where they mean the most. 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.679 So I definitely get that. 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:14.880 I also, you know, not that I'm a big wrestling fan or anything, but I'm vaguely familiar with wrestling thanks to like my dad and stuff. 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.400 So I know a little bit about it. 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.159 So I just remember like times when he would take me and stuff too. 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:35.840 So I think that all is just kind of culminated in into me really loving this story, Ed McGinnis' art, me being able to relate, um, a very sentimental moment, um, and just like seeing how seeing legacy and seeing like Peter remember um this moment with Uncle Ben. 00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:39.440 And really, you because Peter beats himself up all the time, you know. 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:40.400 He be all the time. 00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:48.159 And and that's why other than 800, my other favorite uh milestone issue is Amazing Spider-Man 500, where it's J. 00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:55.039 Michael Strazinski and Doctor Strange gives uh it's a it's his Peter's birthday, and Doctor Strange says, I have a gift for you. 00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.480 It's anybody you want in all of history, you get what, like an hour with them? 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.840 And you can talk about it, it's really them, whatever you want. 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.000 And Peter wishes for Uncle Ben. 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:12.800 And he just talks to Uncle Ben, and Uncle Ben and Amazing Fire Spider-Man 500 tells him that he are like, Are you happy? 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.239 And like, I'm I'm proud of you, Peter, and all this. 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:20.880 And that's really, I think, uh why I really like this story too, because it reminded me of that issue. 00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.119 Yeah. 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.199 When he talks about, like, are you happy? 00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:24.880 I'm I'm proud of you, stay who you are. 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.920 And I think Peter being there in that wrestling match, he's probably reminded of like what Uncle Ben said that day. 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.800 And um so

for me, this is number two. 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:35.360 Number two. 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.599 Well, complete polar opposites. 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:41.840 Yeah, even though the last one were like, look at us, we're the same person, we have the same mindset. 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:43.840 And they're like, eight, two. 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:44.800 Eight, two. 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:45.920 No, I'm not seven. 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:46.639 Oh, seven, seven. 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:48.159 I have there's one worse than this. 00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:49.119 Okay, in my opinion. 00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:49.679 There's one. 00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:51.599 We probably have the same one. 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.599 Um, so that's for me, it's number two. 00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.000 And again, I I like I don't I I because also when I read this, um, you put yourself in Uncle Ben's perspective. 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:10.559 Yeah, I put myself in Peter Parker's perspective because I remember going out with my papa and uh we me and him doing stuff like that, and I'm yeah, I'm in the the passenger seat, and I'm over here like, oh what what what action figure am I gonna buy? 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.480 Or what what am I gonna buy this or am I gonna buy that? 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.639 Or and then he's just like, you know, you're a good kid. 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.400 And I'm just like, okay. 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:25.440 Anyway, you know, like I it's just like I relate to that, and and I I see both sides, but um, there was other stories in this in this bundle. 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:26.480 It's still a really good story. 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:27.039 Yeah, yeah. 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:32.159 It's just it's just that like you had eight stories to pick from and it had to be somewhere. 00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:32.559 Yeah. 00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:38.960 Honestly, looking back though, I I pop kind of want to put this over uh the Peach Mamoko one, though. 00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:44.559 I would I would I would be willing to bump it up just because you're like you're not you're not that evil. 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.880 I like you a little bit better. 00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.559 Um so the next story, you take it away. 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:51.599 The jester. 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:52.159 Yes. 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:56.800 So this story is uh this is a very good one. 00:54:56.960 --> 00:55:00.159 Um so for this is by Brian Michael Bendis. 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:02.159 And Stuart Eneman came out of retirement back. 00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.199 He's back. 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.239 And that's great because he did 800, which was my favorite. 00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:07.519 Um, and I've actually met him. 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:08.320 He's really nice. 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:16.000 Um, so we uh so we pick up uh Peter Parker's in Times Square and he's looking at a billboard of fireball? 00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:18.639 No, like I thought it was like Skyrider or something. 00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:22.159 Skyrider, it's some weird like D-list hero. 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:22.559 Yeah. 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.000 And he's like, now how does he get three movies? 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.400 And like, like, I'm just here. 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.000 Like, I don't I want a movie. 00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.119 Like I want I want attention or whatever, right? 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:34.800 And we we start with that. 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:41.360 Isn't there even a line in there where it's like the the first two made millions of dollars, like billions of dollars, like broke records? 00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:42.639 I wish I was worth that much. 00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:44.639 Yeah, wish I could break records. 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.199 I wish I could, yeah, yeah, literally. 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.079 And um, come on, come on. 00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:53.599 Yeah, literally buddy, don't I got a surprise for you? 00:55:53.840 --> 00:56:01.360 But anyway, so but but we we go into Times Square and he is fighting uh the the bunny girl. 00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:02.239 I forget her name. 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.199 Playboy? 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.440 What wait a minute, Playboy? 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.079 Uh he's fighting uh uh what's her name? 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:10.079 Um Captain Carrot? 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:15.039 She throws because he she throws carrot bombs at him and he goes, carrot bombs? 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.880 And then they and uh and it this this story um White Rabbit is White Rabbit, yeah, white rabbit. 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:24.639 And the the guy who has the uh the movie is Rocket Racer. 00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:25.519 Rocket Racer. 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.559 Okay, I'm gonna have to open up my book because I need to I need to cheat a little bit on this one. 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.840 Oh, you're just breaking what we promised our listeners. 00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:32.880 No, it's okay. 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.039 But the the villains are uh Bas Basilist? 00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:41.440 Bas Basil Basilist uh Firebrand and White Rabbit. 00:56:41.599 --> 00:56:42.159 Yes. 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:46.880 And so he he jumps down and they're like, we're gonna get you. 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.079 And he's like, you with a question mark. 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:55.199 And they're like, yes, it's us, and he's like, no, I mean like you, like you, like who are like who are you? 00:56:57.199 --> 00:56:57.920 I love that. 00:56:58.079 --> 00:56:58.559 I don't know why. 00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.760 I just thought that it's just this this is written very like much like Spider-Man. 00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.400 It's very much got like, you know, Brian Michael Pendis, he wrote Ultimate, which is my favorite Spider-Man run ever. 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:12.880 Um, it was just very fun to have like a you know, like uh, you know, can I get like a roll call on like who you guys are? 00:57:13.039 -->

00:57:16.800 And then they actually do it like like you know, my name is the White Rabbit. 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.199 What do you think about that uh fire brand? 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.199 And he's like, I'm gonna kill you. 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:27.119 It's just so like cleat niche, and uh, you know, Spider-Man fights them all, and he actually, you know, he wins. 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:36.559 And uh by the time it's over, he uh uh he webs one of them to like a pole and he's like F you Spider-Man. 00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:38.559 And he's like, fair enough. 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:47.280 It's just it's very it's just it's very Spider-Man and um his costume is all damaged up too. 00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.800 And uh he drops his Avengers card, which I forgot to mention the very beginning of this issue. 00:57:52.880 --> 00:57:58.000 Uh it starts pinging and it's like Spider-Man, I need you to meet me uh at Central Park now. 00:57:58.079 --> 00:57:58.239 Yeah. 00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.519 And Peter's like, what did I do? 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.880 Yeah, like because it's almost like every time he gets called by the Avengers, he's in trouble for something. 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:05.599 Right, right. 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.159 And so after he leaves uh Times Square, he swings down to Central Park. 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.280 And I want you to take this scene because I think you this scene. 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.199 So uh Peter shows up, I think it's at Avengers Mansion. 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:20.559 Since I cheated, you can cheat too. 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:21.119 Oh, okay. 00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:23.119 So Peter shows up at Avengers Mansion. 00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:23.760 Oh, is it Avengers? 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:24.559 I thought it was Central Park. 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.719 I think it's it might it might be Avengers Mansion. 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:28.320 You you had the physical copy. 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.239 I did not have the It's Avengers Mansion. 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:30.559 Okay. 00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:32.000 I can't read. 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.000 Well, it it's it doesn't say, it's just in the background. 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:36.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:42.639 And um and Spider-Man shows up, and Cap is like at a picnic table eating uh looks like a salad. 00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:42.960 Yeah. 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.079 Um just eating a salad on Captain Rec or whatever. 00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:48.239 Um wish we could all just be healthy. 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:49.599 I'm healthy. 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:50.000 Yeah. 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.960 Nothing says America like being healthy. 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:53.760 Yeah, okay. 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.000 I should have McDonald's on my buddy. 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:57.360 Yeah, okay. 00:58:57.519 --> 00:58:59.039 My second favorite Marvel character. 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:00.000 I I think I know you. 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.239 I think you should have a Diet Coke. 00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:06.719 And a talk about a regular Coke. 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:07.840 We're Americans are clean. 00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:09.280 That's true, that's true. 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:10.239 Or a Dr. 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:10.639 Pepper. 00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:11.119 Yeah, a Dr. 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:11.360 Pepper. 00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.199 Or a Mountain Dew! 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:19.199 But anyway, so Spider-Man shows up and Cap's like, Oh, you've had a rough day. 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.559 And and Spider-Man's like, I've had all the days, Cap. 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.159 I have had all of them. 00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:24.639 Yeah. 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:26.239 He's like, Do you need to sit? 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.199 Do you need to sit down? 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:28.000 Do you need clean up? 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:28.639 What do you need? 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.800 And Spider Man's like, just just tell me what I got called in for. 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:34.239 Like, what did I screw up? 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.199 How much trouble am I in? 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:36.800 Cap's like, why would you be in trouble? 00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:37.440 With who? 00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:41.199 And and Spider-Man's like, I don't know, everybody, all the time, I'm always in trouble. 00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.119 I always do something, I always screw things up. 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.280 And Cap's like, you got called in, and your first thought is you're in trouble. 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:50.960 And Spider-Man says, Well, my persecution complex is one of my superpowers. 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.199 And Cap's like, I really don't think it is. 00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.840 He hands him a box, and he's like, The reason you got called in is because Tony Stark. 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.159 I love how they're still doing the bit of like Tony Iron Man is Tony Stark's bodyguard. 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:04.719 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.800 And he's like, our friend Tony Stark uh keeps track of all of our anniversaries. 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.199 And Spider-Man's like, Anniversary of what? 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.800 He's like, the day that you make your first public appearance as Spider-Man. 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.639 And Tony wanted to make sure that you uh this event was commemorated. 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.599 And it's this weird abstract art looking thing. 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.000 It's like an art abstract art trophy of Spider-Man. 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:24.639 Yeah, yeah. 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.639 And um and Spider-Man's like, Tony made this? 01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:35.599 And Cap says, Well, we know Spider-Man came out of some kind of family tragedy, and we know that feeling, a lot of us do. 01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.880 Um, but it's hard to imagine uh that uh it's not hard to imagine that you're part of our family. 01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:47.679 Uh we're awfully proud of

what you've done, and your family members would be honored for what you've done in their memory, so we wanted to acknowledge it. 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.480 And Spider-Man's like, Don't make me cry, mask. 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:57.840 And he's like, We wanted to honor your occasion with uh your peers and everyone, but everybody had to take off because um everybody has laughs. 01:00:58.159 --> 01:00:59.360 You took too long, yeah. 01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:08.079 And uh and and Cap stands up and he salutes him, yeah, and he's like, Because you think you don't, it is exactly why you matter and why you deserve it. 01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:09.360 Thank you, Spider-Man. 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:11.440 And uh then the jets fly over now. 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:16.480 Not what ball is. 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:25.440 So Spider-Man's like grabbing his stomach and he's like, There was food, and Cap says, Yeah, there was, but we also had four Hulks here. 01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:27.440 So uh all that food's gone. 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:28.960 He's like, Four Hulks? 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:30.400 Uh how many people were there? 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.880 And he's like, Happy anniversary, Spider-Man. 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:33.280 Yeah. 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.280 Uh he's like, I can't believe I missed it. 01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.840 And so Cap says, He was your uncle, right? 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:39.840 And he's like, Yeah, my uncle Ben. 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.000 He's like, tell me about him. 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:47.039 And then that's the end of the story, and it says, For Stan and Steve, thank you. 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:49.920 This is a good one. 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:50.639 That yeah. 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.400 And I'm gonna be honest, uh, this was a very close number one. 01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:54.880 Okay. 01:01:55.199 --> 01:01:56.239 This was number two for me. 01:01:56.480 --> 01:01:56.719 Okay. 01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:02.320 Um, and the reason this was number two was because I relate to this one a lot um in a lot of different ways. 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:07.039 Um immediately at the out the back, at the at the beginning of this book, something I can. 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:07.679 Out the back. 01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:08.960 Out of the back of the book. 01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:09.840 What does that mean? 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:17.440 Immediately at the beginning of this book, um, when he's looking at the poster and he's like, Man, I wish I was worth a lot. 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:22.320 You know, like immediately I was like, I was like, man, if only you knew. 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:26.480 You just like literally your movie this year broke every movie record of all time. 01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:31.360 Like you literally beat Titanic, like no brand new day beat Titanic, and it's it's the biggest movie in the world. 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:31.679 Yeah. 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.159 Um, and it's like he he has no idea his worth. 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:40.880 And and I started thinking, and I was like, that feels like me. 01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:42.320 That's what I feel like. 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.960 Like, you know, like I don't I don't really, you know, I just look at myself as just a dude. 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:52.559 And I don't really ever think that like sometimes I go through a lot of phases where I'm just like, man, I just don't feel like I'm worth a lot. 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.519 But when you're in your own world and you're doing your own thing, you don't feel that way sometimes. 01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:03.840 Um but sometimes in the bigger in the bigger, bigger, bigger scheme of things, you're worth uh billions, you know. 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:05.440 Spider-Man's a billion dollar IP. 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:10.079 I guess not not that money's worth it, but you know, like he's worth so much in the real world. 01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:17.039 If he I and I said to you on the phone, I was like, you know, Clayton, if Spider-Man was real, I think he would be the most famous person in the world. 01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:17.280 Yeah. 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:18.079 Like genuinely. 01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.960 If there was a real life Spider-Man, he would be the most famous person. 01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:22.239 Everyone knows who Spider-Man is. 01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:26.559 And I was like, you know, like I relate to that very closely. 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:39.119 And you know, he gets in a fight and he's you know, it's it's the it's the generic Spider-Man thing of everything where he's like, you know, he's like uh, you know, he's he's being goofy and he's having a good time and all that stuff. 01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:44.880 And at the end, I love I love the like if you Spider-Man he's like, he's like, oh yeah, yeah, fair enough. 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.320 You know, like okay, cool. 01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:56.559 Um, but it's also the end as well, because um, like in the end, he shows up, you know, I'm always worried that someone's mad at me about something, you know, like, okay, what did I do? 01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:03.199 You know, like, um, and you know, he's given this gift of just like, hey, you are amazing. 01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:04.480 Thank you for what you do. 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:06.559 And that's that's the premise of the gift. 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.960 It's just, you know, we wanted to celebrate your first time being uh being appearing. 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:11.440 Right. 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:18.400 And like um with my movie recently that won awards and stuff, that's how I felt. 01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:22.320 Because I didn't feel like like I didn't feel like I did anything special. 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:23.920 I didn't feel like I did anything good. 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.880 And in that moment I knew exactly how he felt. 01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:32.320 And I was just like, that's it's the it's and and again, and it's just like the I don't deserve this.

01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.360 And then like, you know, him being like, that's exactly why you deserve it. 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:40.880 It just I don't know, I related to that of like, you know, because I don't I don't feel like I'm successful a lot of the time. 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:55.119 I'm not turning this into a therapy session, I know, but like, but like I I don't I don't feel like I'm I'm successful a lot, but then when I really take a step back, it's like you know what I I am, and I'm doing very I'm I am something special and I need to just remember that. 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.800 And Spider-Man is also that too. 01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:02.239 So it's like it's just you know, everything in my life is rooted back to Spider-Man on on a molecular level. 01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.960 Like it's actually like I'll I'll be talking to somebody about something. 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:08.079 Um funny enough, I took one of those like political tests with my friends. 01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.079 I'm like, what's your political blah blah blah? 01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:20.320 And I was like, we were I was reading the questions out loud and I was like, well, honestly, like in the Spider-Man movie, and they were like, brother, do not make your political decisions based off Spider-Man. 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:26.559 And it's like, no, it's a it's it's like the the you know, it's you go through everything and it doesn't give you like if you're on the left or the right. 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.039 It's just like your Spider-Man? 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:30.960 We didn't even know that was an option. 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:40.320 Oh, you should retake the but but no, like I I like I just Spider-Man's morals and his character is so rooted in who I've become. 01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.239 And like, you know, I don't know. 01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.920 It's just that's what related to me the most. 01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.239 So I love this story just because of those two moments. 01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.880 I can relate to those very like a right now. 01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.559 Like these are like right now relations, like new things in my life. 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:52.960 Right. 01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:55.119 So that is why I rated it a two. 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:55.360 Okay. 01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:56.800 But it's a very close one. 01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.599 I I almost gave this a one, but there was the other story. 01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.239 That is a one that is the reason why it got a one, and you probably know which story that is, too. 01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.440 Well, before I get there, I want I want to say this. 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:08.960 This is eight. 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.039 This was the worst. 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:11.519 Sorry. 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:13.199 I I wanna I want to say this. 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.480 And I think this is very much the point of the story. 01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:22.079 And um, you might not

see your worth, but those around you do. 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:25.679 And I think that's the lesson to take away from the story. 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:32.559 And for you, I don't think you see your worth as much as you should. 01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:47.119 And I know this is not a therapy session, I know this is not, you know, bromance time or anything, but I'm I'm genuinely like telling you, not just I'm just telling you, just as we sit across this table, um, you don't see your worth. 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.679 And I've known you for, like I said, almost 10 years now. 01:06:50.400 --> 01:07:01.760 You've you've always been so hard on yourself, you've always beat yourself up, and you've always refused good things to happen to you, you know, when somebody tries to give you no, no, I don't deserve it. 01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:05.039 No, no, you know, it's you have a good heart. 01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:08.320 We wouldn't be doing this show if you if you weren't such a good friend. 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.760 You I wouldn't call you my brother if you weren't a good good guy. 01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:18.480 You are talented and we are all proud of you. 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:21.440 My wife thinks you're cool. 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.119 Um she thinks you have FOMO. 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.119 She she loves you very much. 01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:28.320 My daughter loves you. 01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:30.880 Everybody who's ever met loves you. 01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:33.119 And we are all proud of you. 01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:36.800 And um I again know that's not a therapy session. 01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:42.559 Um and I think everybody listening, these people wouldn't be listening if they didn't like you. 01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:48.239 And I know you've had some people message you and tell you uh a few special things to Panopirate. 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:49.920 I should probably text him back. 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.599 I don't think I've texted him back either. 01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:52.880 Poor guy. 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:54.960 Sorry, Panel Pirate. 01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.639 Um but they wouldn't listen if they didn't like you. 01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:02.800 And yeah, and you know, everybody loves listening to your ow you and Venom rants. 01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:03.280 Oh, yeah. 01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:06.800 Um, that that's people just love hearing how passionate you get. 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:11.440 And they'll be sad because we have no more content after today. 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:20.479 But yes, yeah, I just want you to know uh just like Spider-Man found out his worth from Cap and was reminded of his worth by Cap. 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:27.199 I hope that I'm able to remind you of your worth and remind you that you are an amazing person and we love you. 01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:28.399 We're proud of you. 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:30.640 We want to keep you around as long as we can. 01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:36.640 And that's mostly just for content,

but you forgot this part of the script, Clayton. 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:37.680 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:38.159 Sorry. 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.439 Uh you're really handsome and I love your hair. 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:43.039 You smell nice. 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:45.039 Thank you. 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:49.359 If I was Spider-Man, I would say you're gonna make me cry in my mask. 01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:54.159 Um, I appreciate it, but it it yeah, I I thank you. 01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:56.880 I I appreciate I appreciate you, I appreciate everybody. 01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:58.640 We're gonna appreciate people. 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:10.720 Like this show is an amazing outlet for me, and it's an amazing way to get to talk to people and to relate with people, and all of us connect in this community of comic books, you know, whether it's good or bad, right? 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:15.840 Whether it's you know, ultimate Brian Michael Bendis or you know, Venom, all new Al Ewing. 01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:20.239 Like, you know, it it's a it's a great place for all of us to just coexist. 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:22.479 So um thank you. 01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:23.119 I appreciate it. 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:23.760 I appreciate it. 01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:24.880 I didn't mean to get too deep there. 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.119 I was just like, I think I know how this feels. 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:28.000 That's okay. 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:28.960 Well, that's what we were talking about. 01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:29.760 But that's what Spider-Man. 01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:35.520 That's that's the whole point of Spider-Man is that you should you should relate to Spider-Man and like like that's the whole being of his character. 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.399 And if you're not relating to him, then something you're something's wrong. 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:38.560 Right. 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:41.199 Because he's he's gone through everything that everybody can relate to. 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:48.000 Yeah, and and that's what that's what we were talking about earlier, is that we we all like stories where we can see ourselves in these characters. 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:55.520 That's why you know the the big knight related to me so much was because I saw myself in that character, and you see yourself in this character. 01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:57.199 This is why it means a lot to you. 01:09:57.279 --> 01:09:57.600 Yeah. 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:05.520 Um now, with all this being said, all the the lovey dovey stuff we just had, um I have some heartbreaking news. 01:10:05.680 --> 01:10:06.239 Oh no. 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:07.840 This one is number four for me. 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:09.199 Oh, that's okay. 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:18.800 Um, and it is number four because I don't like the beginning, which I know is kind of the point of the story, but it's not the message that I don't like. 01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:26.560 There's just like some dialogue and just some wording of things that I just don't like. 01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:28.159 And I love Ultimate Spider-Man. 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:28.479 Yeah. 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.319 Uh, you know, that that place all that book always holds a special place in my heart. 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:34.159 That's the one that got me through tough times. 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:40.960 Um, but like Bendis' writing or his dialogue or something just doesn't connect. 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:46.319 Like, I I like the whole, you know, I don't really matter, and then at the end you are reminded that you do matter. 01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:47.119 Yeah. 01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:51.039 But like just the way he talks, I do like the oh, screw you, Spider-Man. 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:52.640 And he's like, oh, fair enough. 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:53.840 Um, I do like that. 01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:59.119 But like everything else, it's just something about the dialogue that just really just kind of took me out of the story. 01:10:59.199 --> 01:10:59.439 Yeah. 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:01.119 And so that's why it ranks lower. 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:03.439 It's Stuart Inemann's art is fantastic. 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:05.279 I love seeing him draw Captain America. 01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:08.640 I miss I miss having a goodly a good written Captain America. 01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:09.760 Won't get on that table. 01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.239 But um Let it in. 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:13.119 Let it in. 01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:15.039 Let it out, Clayton. 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:16.640 Um I'm about to do it. 01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.560 So that's why it ranks number four for me. 01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:19.039 That's okay. 01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:24.880 And that's still, you know, again, like uh the the middle section of this, like the fighting is more eye candy and just enjoyment. 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:39.359 Like that was the thing of like, you know, uh I love about Peter Parker is that there's serious moments, but then the com the the fighting these stupid villains just kind of makes you forget about everything for a minute, you know, and then like you're reeled back into the the real the real situation. 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:47.199 So this was this was very close to being a one just because of the the relatability, but like um, but again, that's just a me thing, right? 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.520 Like, you know, I didn't relate with yours, and I was like, this sucks. 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:59.039 I'm just kidding, I didn't actually think um, but yes, it is a it is a two for me, almost a one, but the other story is a little bit different. 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:00.960 Okay, so uh how about I do this? 01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.600 I do the next story, and then you'll do the final. 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.520 You want me to do the final? 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:08.159 You don't know which one's my number one, Paul. 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:20.319 I I swear if this next story is your number one, um I'm gonna

have you go to the hospital and get checked out for the sake of like you don't have a disease or something. 01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:21.119 What's the next story? 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:22.960 It's called Of Webs and Six Guns. 01:12:23.680 --> 01:12:24.560 Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:26.640 Maybe maybe I want to talk about this story. 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:28.960 I I think you really want to talk about the last story. 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:29.520 You're right. 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:30.800 Yeah, I thought so. 01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:34.560 So, I mean, I mean you can do this story, not just do the next one. 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.560 I'm gonna be honest, I almost skimmed through this because I was so bored. 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:39.520 Yeah. 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:41.920 So so Not that it's bad. 01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:44.960 It's just it's it's like, have you ever mixed? 01:12:45.199 --> 01:12:46.960 Okay, let me give you a combination here. 01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.600 A little little bit of uh little bit of mix and action. 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:49.920 Okay. 01:12:50.479 --> 01:12:56.239 Have you ever just been like, I'm gonna make a hamburger, and then you pour vinegar all over your burger? 01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.119 It's it doesn't really taste good together. 01:12:59.199 --> 01:12:59.840 You know what I mean? 01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:01.520 Or like let's say you're making a hot dog. 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:09.119 Okay, and instead you're like you got your hot dog, you got your ketchup, you got all that stuff, and then you decide to put salt on the top of the hot dog. 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:11.279 Doesn't work out very well, does it? 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.399 So in this story, we get Spider-Man in the Wild, Wild West. 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.479 And this isn't our our multiverse, Spider-Ver Wild West. 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:19.279 Uh, what was it? 01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:19.840 Webweave? 01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:22.159 No, uh Web Slinger. 01:13:22.319 --> 01:13:23.039 Web Slinger. 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:27.680 Um, this isn't that Spider-Man, this is normal Spider-Man in the Wild West. 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:28.239 Yeah. 01:13:28.399 --> 01:13:29.680 So let me take it away. 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:41.039 So um we are on a park bench in Central Park, and Mary Jane is reading a book uh reading a magazine or something, and Peter's kind of sitting there and he falls asleep on her shoulder. 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:46.239 Well, by some happenstance, he gets teleported to the past. 01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.439 And Peter's kind of having this dialogue, and he's like, Well, you know, what's going on? 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:57.359 Oh, I see people fighting over there, um, and I'm just a hero, so my natural instinct is to rush in. 01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:02.319 So he puts on the Spider-Man costume, he runs out, beats up the bad guys, webs them up. 01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.319 He stands on his horse like Dixie Stampede. 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.640 If you don't know what that is, it's look it up. 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:11.199 Um yeah, little little local local thing over here. 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:20.159 Um he has his both feet on two different horses, um, and he's like riding backwards on them, which is a thing they do at Dixie Stampede. 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:32.800 Yeah um and so then uh he runs into a uh the rawhide kid, which is a C-list, maybe even a D-list Marvel character from the 40s. 01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:49.600 I thought that was like an alternate version of like the Punisher or uh the Punisher or like Ghost Rider or something, because it looked like he had a skull on his hat, like the way the bullets were, and the it and then like his his button up had like a white like square and it kind of looked like ghost, like it, like a like a Johnny but I don't know. 01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:51.039 I thought I was I didn't even know who it was. 01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:51.600 Okay. 01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.239 Um yeah. 01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:54.000 Don't forget, this is my favorite story. 01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:55.199 Yes, this is your favorite story. 01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.920 So it's Woody from the Toy Story. 01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:06.159 There's a snake in my book, um, and so he's there and he's like, Well, are you a friend or foe, partner? 01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:08.479 And Spider-Man's like, Well, I guess I'm a friend. 01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:10.159 I've played that game on the Wii, yeah. 01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:11.359 Red Dead Redemption. 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:13.760 You know, you have Spider-Man, friend, or foe on the Wii. 01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:14.800 In this old time. 01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:15.680 No, kidding. 01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:25.920 And um, so they they go into town together, and Peter's like, Well, there's no sense nobody knows my identity here, so I'm just gonna take off my Spider-Man costume and just go around as Peter. 01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:34.319 They go into a saloon, and as any Western, uh if anybody who's ever watched a l a Western for five seconds, uh, you know there's gonna be a bar fight. 01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.399 So they have erupt into a bar fight. 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.359 Peter is like, Oh, I'm gonna change back into my costume. 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.199 And he crawls into a room and this girl's like getting ready. 01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:44.239 She's like changing, yeah. 01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:46.720 And uh she's like, Oh, hello there. 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:51.680 He's like, No, I'm I'm I'm married, I'm taking oh, that's not a problem for me. 01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:53.279 Well, it is for my lady. 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:54.000 I gotta go. 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.199 And they go out and fight, and pretty much that's it. 01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:06.960 They wrap up all the bad guys, and uh the lady like lifts up his mask and like kisses him on the cheek, and she's like, Well, are you gonna be leaving? 01:16:07.119

--> 01:16:09.199 He's like, Well, I I don't know, I'll stick around. 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.239 It's uh yada yada until it's my time to go back. 01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:14.640 Well, he gets pulled back to Central Park about that time. 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.680 He kind of like wakes up he wakes up from his nap. 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:19.279 It's it's a dream, it's all a dream. 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.560 And he's got uh a lipstick on his cheek. 01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:22.960 Uh-huh. 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:28.000 And uh Mary Jane's like, Well, I guess it's time to go, let's go get something to eat, or something like that. 01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:34.640 And um she's like, and wipe that lipstick off your face, and she wipes it, and he's like, Well, how'd you know that wasn't yours? 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.119 Well, I don't wear that color of lipstick, and that's pretty much the story. 01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:39.920 Yeah. 01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.000 So let me let me go first. 01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:48.000 So I think this story was included for one reason and one reason only. 01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:52.560 This was written by Stanley's brother, Larry Lieber. 01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:52.960 Yeah. 01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:57.600 Um Stanley's real name is Stanley Lieber, and so Stanley always just went by Stan Lee. 01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:01.520 And so Larry Lieber, who's in his 90s, wrote this story. 01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:04.880 And I think that's the only reason why this was included. 01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.439 Now, Larry Lieber wrote uh some Spider-Man with Stanley. 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:13.760 Um, so maybe that's why they just wanted to give him maybe one last story. 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:14.880 Is he still alive or see? 01:17:15.279 --> 01:17:16.159 Larry Lieber is still alive. 01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:16.800 He's still alive, okay. 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:20.159 Yeah, uh, he's actually doing a CGC signing the uh like last month. 01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:20.720 Oh really? 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:21.119 Yeah. 01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:23.920 Well um, so he's still around and still kicking. 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:25.920 Um the art is Giuseppe Common Cole. 01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:26.399 Yeah. 01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:27.760 Um he also did 800. 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.239 Um, I think he did a great job on the art. 01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:33.119 Um yeah, but I don't care about this story. 01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:34.479 Yeah, I I don't either. 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:46.399 It's it's kind of just like uh it's just like a goofy, like like this reminds me of like the ultimate Spider-Man cartoon that like was on Disney that wasn't good, that was like all silly, you know what I mean? 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.880 Um this is very much like a scenario that would happen in that. 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:56.319 It's like, oh he fell asleep and now he's in the wild west and you know, and you know, oh you can get out of my bar, uh you know, spit on your shoe. 01:17:56.720

--> 01:17:57.680 You know, and that's just I don't know. 01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:58.479 It it was okay. 01:17:58.560 --> 01:17:59.600 I I gave it an eight. 01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.479 I mean, I mean when I when I started reading this, I was like, I don't want to read this. 01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:04.479 This is all I'm just already I don't care. 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:06.880 Yeah, and I immediately just threw it and I just yeah. 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:11.600 So it's just it just didn't give me it's just like a funny, it's just a fun story. 01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:12.960 It's just like a funny different story. 01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:23.600 Well, Larry being 90 years old, and again, no disrespect to Larry, but being 90 years old, you're gonna write they always tell you to write what you know, right? 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:29.520 And and Larry hasn't wrote any mainstream comics in years, if not decades. 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:34.479 Yeah, so he's writing what he knows, and he probably grew up with Westerns. 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:36.399 Yeah, that was big back in the day. 01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:36.960 Yeah. 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:41.600 So he's probably just writing what he knows, and he knows Westerns, he knows Spider-Man. 01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:43.680 Why not put them together for one last story? 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:48.479 Yeah, yeehaw! Yeehaw! Uh, so this is a seven for me only. 01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:51.279 This is one where the art exceeds the story. 01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:51.760 Really? 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:52.079 Okay. 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:56.239 Um, so that but it could honestly be swapped out for Tears of the Spider Queen. 01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:58.159 Uh, I think they're on the same level. 01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:02.159 Um, stories I really don't care about, but the art is what really pushes it through. 01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:02.640 Yeah. 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.039 Um, and it's just nice to see Peter and MJ together. 01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:05.760 It is, it is. 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:07.760 Because this is this is the second story where they're together. 01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:08.640 The green goblin. 01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:10.720 Yeah, this is these are wait. 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.000 They're not in the oh, you're sorry. 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:13.359 I mean, this is the second and last. 01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:14.000 Sorry. 01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:14.479 Yeah. 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:15.680 Yeah. 01:19:16.399 --> 01:19:17.279 I'm stupid. 01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:26.319 Anyway, uh, but yes, I uh I it was nice seeing them, but this one didn't get as get highlight that as much, besides the fact that he falls asleep next to her and she's like, I don't know, who kissed you? 01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.159 You have a lipstick on your face, it wasn't me. 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:29.920 Yeah, I don't wear that color. 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:34.239 And it's like you're just letting girls come by and kiss your man while you're sitting next to him

at the park. 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:35.439 All right then. 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:37.680 At least let's me do that often. 01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:44.479 At least it's funny. 01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:53.279 I funny enough, I actually had a bot comment on one of my Instagram posts recently, and it was like, hey, my friend, my friend really likes you and she doesn't know how to reach out to you. 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:57.680 And uh you you should DM her, but don't don't tell her that I I reached out, but blah blah blah blah blah. 01:19:57.920 --> 01:19:59.600 And I tagged at least I went get him. 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.039 She didn't do anything, but you know, it was still funny. 01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:06.960 Get a sick em boy. 01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.239 Um, but now we're down to our last story. 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:16.800 Our last story called Um Uh It's not it's called I I think it's I can Now I Can Rest. 01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:17.600 Now I can rest. 01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:18.000 Okay. 01:20:18.159 --> 01:20:19.119 Um Now I Can Rest. 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:24.479 Um and I think I I can never rest might also be a post like a good title for it too. 01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:31.439 So the point of this story is we actually follow the police officer who is chak chasing a crook. 01:20:31.760 --> 01:20:36.159 And he's chasing the crook up the or he's chasing two two police officers are chasing a crook. 01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:43.039 Uh the crook climbs up and he actually pops one of his bullets at one of the cops, knocks him down, and the other guy is still going after him. 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:50.479 Well, they climb into the backstage of a wrestling area where he's chasing this crook. 01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:51.920 Stop him, stop him. 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:58.800 And there's a man in a spider costume walking who politely lets him pass, gets in the elevator, and the guy's like, What's the matter with you? 01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:00.880 You could have stopped him, you could have tripped him or something. 01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:02.640 Hey man, that's not my problem, buddy. 01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:04.159 I missed the part where that's my problem. 01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:11.199 I missed the and um you're letting him get away with my money. 01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:14.000 Bro was asking for it to be quite honest with you. 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:22.720 But um and we follow the police officer who goes back to his HQ and he's just like, you know, like uh, you know, are you not ready to retire? 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:23.680 Like it's time for you to retire. 01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:25.840 He's like, I can't do it until we stop this guy. 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:27.680 This guy has killed too many people. 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:29.760 I I can we can't we have to stop him. 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:34.319 And we get a call, hey, uh I think he's been at a he's been at a house. 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:35.600 There was a shooting at a house. 01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.319 So he goes out to this house and they're walking Aunt May out who's crying. 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:46.560 And if you are if you don't know already what's going on, pretty clear, this is Amazing Fantasy 15 from the point of view of the police officer. 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:46.960 Right. 01:21:47.520 --> 01:21:54.239 And um then uh they're saying, Hey, there's a young boy uh who lives here, he's probably gonna come home any minute. 01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:57.439 And he comes home and they tell him what happened, and then he runs off. 01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:00.079 And he's like, I'm gonna go follow this. 01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:08.800 So he follows, uh, you see in the reflection of the car window, Spider-Man swinging, and they get to a warehouse, and he's like, I don't know if we should go in there, I don't know what we should do. 01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.640 And then next thing you know, the thug gets thrown out the window and is webbed hanging there. 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:13.760 And he's like, A web. 01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:17.199 And that's that's you know, then we fast forward to the present day. 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:22.000 Uh Tarantula is upside down, webbed up to a wall, and he's like, Come on, you're really gonna web me up upside down. 01:22:22.079 --> 01:22:24.479 He's like, Hey, next time I'll try to do it right side up, and he goes, Okay. 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.840 Yeah, because he's like, All the blood rushes to my head, it's hard to talk. 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:30.319 He's like, Okay, I'll keep that in mind next time. 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:39.760 Yeah, and we see the police officer walk up and he's talking to Spider-Man, who's on a which also keep in mind, this is his face is never shown as a lot of people. 01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:41.119 Spider-Man's face is never. 01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:48.560 Maybe because the focus is not Spider-Man in this story. 01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:49.359 Yeah. 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:50.079 Maybe. 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:50.640 Kind of. 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:51.199 Yeah. 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:55.680 Um or or you already know this story for the most part. 01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:56.159 Yeah. 01:22:56.319 --> 01:23:00.560 But um, but he says, after all these years, you probably don't remember me, do you? 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.000 And he's like, No, I do. 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.279 Uh you out or you you ought to run me in. 01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:08.880 Because that's what he had said uh to that's what was said earlier, I think. 01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:14.720 Um no, because yeah, because whenever he lets the guy go, he says, I ought to run you in for letting him go. 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.199 And he's like, Yeah, that's right, that was me. 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:18.720 I I owe you an apology. 01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:22.239 This is the this is the guy talking to Spider-Man talking to Spider-Man. 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:23.359 And he's like, What? 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:24.159 But I screwed up. 01:23:24.239

--> 01:23:25.279 I let that guy get away. 01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.279 He got away from me a couple times. 01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.479 All those people he was hurting, it was eating me alive. 01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:31.600 You have no idea. 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:34.880 So yeah, you screwed up, but then you stepped up. 01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:40.319 You did what I couldn't, you caught him, and thanks to you, only one other person died. 01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:42.479 Uh when there could have been so many more. 01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.119 Because of you, I can finally rest. 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:45.760 Thank you. 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.800 And then at the bottom of the page it says, I can never rest. 01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:53.760 So um I think both of both of us have put this in the same spot. 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:55.840 I think this is both number one for us. 01:23:56.399 --> 01:23:59.279 No, no, yours never number one was uh the still stand. 01:23:59.600 --> 01:24:00.800 So I'm assuming this is two. 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:01.680 This is three. 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:02.640 Three, okay. 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:03.680 Interesting. 01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:08.000 Uh yeah, this is this is number one for you, so you go first. 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:12.880 So I put this at number one, um, mainly for another relatable reason. 01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:21.520 Uh when I was in college, I had to write an essay on um some uh of what would I get tattooed on my body and why. 01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:25.840 And the picture that I picked was the final panel in Amazing Fantasy XV. 01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:27.279 That's a lot of words. 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.720 Well, not the words, but just like the image of Spider-Man under the streetlight. 01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:30.880 Yeah. 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:32.239 That was my image. 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:34.319 And just the whole face. 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:37.039 Like your whole back is just the man. 01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:39.359 Clayton, this hurts. 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:40.239 I can't lay down. 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:41.680 I've been here for 12 hours. 01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:43.199 Kill me. 01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.079 Have you seen the guy who gets the the soldier tattooed on his back? 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:56.800 And he's like, he he they he they did it all in one sitting, and it's like this super high-detailed soldier, like America thing on his back, and he's like shaking vigorously with how much pain he's in. 01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.560 Yeah, that's what I imagine I would be. 01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:07.680 Um, but um, I love this story because um I love it when we get a story that already exists that's from the different perspective of someone else, and this actually works. 01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.880 Um, it's written by Dan Slot, who we've both we both love his writing. 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.279 I'm a big Dan Slot Spider-Man fan myself. 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:20.479 And um, it's so it's so nice to s

to get this story, and it's like this can totally be like retconned and worked. 01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:20.720 Yeah. 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:21.199 For sure. 01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:24.479 Like I I'm perfectly fine with this taking place before Amazing Fantasy XV. 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:26.159 Like that actually being the story. 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:38.239 And um, you know, it uh when I think about that essay, one of my big things about this issue, which I also gave a speech in college about Amazing Fantasy XV and why it's important. 01:25:38.479 --> 01:25:43.760 And my big thing is that, you know, like this is the birth of a hero, is that all of us humans we make mistakes. 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:47.680 I've made mistakes, you've made mistakes, we've all made mistakes that we we regret. 01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.760 But it's how you continue your life and it's how you redeem yourself that that matters. 01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.199 Mistakes can matter, but do they? 01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:59.279 You know, your mistakes don't matter. 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:01.039 You can always grow. 01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:03.760 And it's always about growing, growing and becoming the better person. 01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:09.840 And also, like, you know, sometime in life, sometimes you just you you're you're tired, and Spider-Man's tired, man. 01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.319 Like he's he's worn out, he's exhausted. 01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:21.439 And I think allowing this police officer to finally rest while he kind of takes the mantle, you know, it's almost like a like a legacy thing for this guy. 01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:34.479 Like if I was a police officer and I was retiring, and as I retire, a superhero takes over, like I feel like I lived my legacy to fulfill, or I I can rest my legacy for this person to take it up because he's clearly ready for the job. 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:38.239 So this is number one for me just because of that story. 01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:44.479 It's it's almost a two because of the other story and how much it relates to me, but this one just like this. 01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:47.760 Um I actually got the variant cover that represents this story. 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:52.239 Um and I love that final page of just the uh I can never rest. 01:26:52.319 --> 01:27:03.359 And it shows the police officer walking to to like the the screen, I guess you'd say, and then uh Peter Parker, Spider-Man, is on the light pole looking down, and it's just it's an amazing image. 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:03.920 Yes. 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:05.359 So that's why I picked it. 01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.199 So for me, this is number three. 01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:11.439 Um and that's not because this is a bad story or anything like that. 01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:16.399 For me, it just didn't it didn't relate like the others to the other two did. 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:18.479 Um still great. 01:27:18.560 --> 01:27:19.359 I I think you're right. 01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:27.520 Uh we talked about this on the phone, is that it it does I do really like when stories take an existing story and tell things from a different perspective. 01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:28.159 Yeah. 01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:33.199 Um I I really like that, and of course, I love Amazing Fantasy 15. 01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:40.880 Um, and so honestly, the problem that I ran into here was the same one that you've had with several other stories, is it's gotta go somewhere. 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:48.399 And unfortunately, I know what my favorite story is, and my second one really meant a lot, so it had to go number three. 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:48.880 Yeah. 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:55.600 Um, but overall, still a great story, and you know, something something you said, and I think this is the the core of Spider Man. 01:27:56.239 --> 01:28:15.760 Spider Man's core is that you never give up, and and that you know that's Why I love that's why my Untouchable Six Amazing Spider-Man 30 33 is in there where he's lifting the rubble because it's like anybody can can be a hero when um things are easy, but it's when things are hard and you that you could you push forward and you be a hero. 01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:25.039 And I actually, because you know everything I do relates back to the Bible, uh something that comes to mind here is actually Romans chapter 3, verses 3 through 5. 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:26.239 And we'll read it real quick. 01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:42.000 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. 01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:46.000 So I bring that up here because um Spider-Man is all about suffering. 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:50.000 Spider-Man suffers, and and nobody likes to suffer. 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.439 Um I mean, if you did, you'd be crazy. 01:28:53.760 --> 01:29:00.079 So, you know, but but but I've always said the greatest stories point back to the greatest story ever told. 01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:10.000 Spider-Man is somebody who suffers, but in his suffering, it produces is endurance to keep going, and that endurance produces his character. 01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:14.640 This is why we love Spider-Man, because we we look up to him and we're like, I want to be like him. 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:21.039 I want to, I I want to live through my sufferings like he does, and that produces hope. 01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:32.239 And then, but of course, in the greater scheme of things, when we go through sufferings, we can look to Christ to give us hope because his character was far greater than our own and far greater than Spider-Man. 01:29:32.399 --> 01:29:32.640 Yeah. 01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:37.439 Um, and uh, and for me, that's that's really Spider-Man is a great hero. 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:38.720 Spider-Man is what I looked up

to. 01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:45.439 Spider-Man got me through being bullied, Spider-Man got me through difficult times, as as he did for you and for people listening. 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:49.600 Um but our ultimate hope is not in Spider-Man, right? 01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:51.039 Our ultimate hope is in Christ. 01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:51.439 Right. 01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:54.720 And um so I absolutely, yeah. 01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:56.720 The story is I can never rest. 01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.359 Um but I I yeah, I it's it's good. 01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:02.399 It's just a good story. 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:03.439 It's a very good story. 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:07.680 And I and I think it has, like I said, great stories point back to the greatest story. 01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:11.600 So I think there's these elements of echoes in in in the gospel. 01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:12.079 Yeah. 01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.840 But but that's that's Amazing Spider-Man a thousand. 01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.520 Was this the best issue milestone it could have been? 01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:20.000 No. 01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.279 No, but um, you know, we did get some good stories out of it. 01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:35.119 I think it allowed us to kind of play with some things and um to kind of drive away since the amazing Spider-Man title has been a little bit rough here recently with the writers and and editorial and whatnot. 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:39.439 Um, do you want to go through our ranks one more time just to kind of go cover everything in order? 01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:39.920 Sure. 01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:44.479 Uh do you want to do do you want to do worst to best or do you want to do uh best to worst? 01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:46.079 Let's do worst to best. 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:46.399 Okay. 01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:47.119 You want to go first? 01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:47.680 Do you want me to go? 01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.640 So my worst was uh of webs and six guns. 01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:52.880 Okay, mine was Tears of the Spider Queen. 01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:53.359 Okay. 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.279 Number seven for me was the big knight. 01:30:55.439 --> 01:30:55.600 Okay. 01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.760 Of Webs and Six Guns for me. 01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:01.199 Uh number six was for me was Tears of the Spider Queen. 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:01.520 Okay. 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.439 For me, it's Requiem for a Goblin. 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:04.079 That's mine. 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:05.039 That's my number five. 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:05.600 Okay. 01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:08.239 Uh for my number five is Ravaged. 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:08.800 Yeah. 01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:10.800 My number four is Ravaged. 01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:12.800 My number four is the jester. 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:13.279 Okay. 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:15.680 Uh, my number three is still standing. 01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:16.079 Okay. 01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:17.600 My number three is I can never rest. 01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.279 My number two is the jester. 01:31:19.439 --> 01:31:20.880 My number two is the big knight. 01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:21.359 Yeah. 01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.199 Uh my number one is now I can rest. 01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:24.560 My number one is still standing. 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:24.960 Yep. 01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:26.479 So pretty close, actually. 01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:27.520 Yeah, all things considered. 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:29.039 Yeah, we we we were pretty good. 01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:33.039 Um, I think there was just a few little like there was a few that we had like complete polar opposites. 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:38.000 But I think that's interesting to see like how you and me both have read different stories and how we take different things. 01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.840 I think and honestly, I I think it's just where we are in life. 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:47.760 And you know, I I think my stories I truly my stories relate to me because of being a father. 01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:48.319 Right. 01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:53.199 Your stories, you your story right now in your life is not that you're a father. 01:31:53.359 --> 01:32:05.760 You're uh you're working on your career and you're balancing all these things, and uh so those stories that kind of relate to your purpose and and what you're doing, those are gonna naturally I think relate more to you. 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.560 If uh I I'll tell I'll say this, I'll say this to our fans. 01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:13.279 If there's anybody who has a story relating to any of these stories, comment. 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:13.920 Let us know. 01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:15.840 What do you mean, story like they've written? 01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:22.720 Oh well, just like if anyone has like a uh if any of these stories in Amazing A Thousand relates to you, let us know. 01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:22.960 Yeah. 01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:33.600 Because like I think it's really cool to see how so far, like this, all of these stories in this issue, how it's making us relate in different ways, or how like we relate to Spider-Man in different ways. 01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:33.760 Right. 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:36.880 So um, if you've got any cool ones that you would like to share, share with us. 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:38.159 Yeah, just why not? 01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:39.520 We'd love to hear it. 01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:39.920 Yeah. 01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:44.720 Um, and and actually, if you do have any stories before we get into Paul's fantastic. 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:46.159 You heard my breath. 01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:46.720 Yeah. 01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:51.359 Um, if you do have any stories that you have written, um, we'd like to hear those too. 01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.439 We we uh I know several people have reached out and shared us some comics that they have. 01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:57.600 There's some people that are comic book writers in here, yeah. 01:32:58.079 --> 01:33:04.159 And

artists, um there's one story I read recently uh called the uh Advarian. 01:33:04.479 --> 01:33:06.000 Um it's very good. 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:08.800 Um the writer has actually been working with Scott Snyder. 01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:09.439 Yes. 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:11.680 Um very good. 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.760 Um uh we might have to do more of a review later on. 01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:20.159 Um, but yeah, if you write stories or you create stories, we'd love to hear those. 01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:30.640 But also let's let's hear what stories related to you and why in the comments, or feel free to message us on Instagram uh at Comic Nation 1776, or Paul Fine. 01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:31.760 Or yeah, or our email. 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:34.079 We have our email too, uh, beyond thepool list at gmail.com. 01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:34.319 Right? 01:33:34.399 --> 01:33:34.880 Yep, yep. 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:35.840 So I keep forgetting it. 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:37.920 Uh we gotta throw that in there. 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:39.119 Um, all right, Paul. 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.439 This is gonna be a big day for you. 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:45.600 The closeout, the finale, the the no more content episode. 01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:47.520 The all new venom, no more. 01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:48.399 Yes. 01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:49.920 No, yeah. 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:51.760 Hopefully, no more. 01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:53.199 We might be making a comeback. 01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:54.640 So this is you. 01:33:54.880 --> 01:34:00.800 So, okay, and uh you I've also asked, I asked you to read Queen and Black because I would love to really talk about this with you. 01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:02.800 I don't I don't want to hold the stage too long. 01:34:02.960 --> 01:34:06.399 Okay, but what I plan on doing is I have three books related to Queen and Black. 01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:11.520 I have Venom 262, which is Al Ewing's last Venom issue in his run. 01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:17.680 We have Queen and Black number five, which is again, I guess, like a side profile last story of his as well. 01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:29.279 And then we have Venom Unchained number three, which is the last story, I guess, in this arc uh regarding uh Eddie Brock's story that then also moves into Venom number one coming out this month in October. 01:34:29.439 --> 01:34:29.600 Okay. 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:32.159 Um and Venom Unchained is also written by Charles Sowell. 01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:37.680 So I consider Venom Unchained number three the the true ending of this story. 01:34:37.840 --> 01:34:41.520 Um, because Queen in Black number five is a rough one. 01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:43.520 I yes, and I read it just for you. 01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:56.319 And after and after, and also what I'm gonna do too is after we review all three of these books, I'm gonna give my big close-out just statement about this run and kind of how it's been handled, what they've been doing. 01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:57.760 And and

here's what I'm gonna do. 01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.600 I'm gonna try to not yell this time. 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.960 I'm gonna try to not get as mad as I did last time because I I got mad. 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:03.600 I got real mad. 01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:06.000 And I'm but I'm I'm gonna be mature. 01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:16.960 I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be a grown-up about this, and I am gonna be, I'm gonna use my brain, and I'm gonna let my brain, because you know, just because someone yells doesn't mean that they're listened to. 01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:18.079 You see what I'm saying? 01:35:20.640 --> 01:35:26.720 I was gonna make a dumb joke and be like, your your whole review is gonna be like, beep you, value, beep you, you, beep. 01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:36.880 Um, so I'm gonna try to be so so if I do get mad during the the the explanation of the comic books, hear my final statement. 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:38.960 Just like it'll be at the end of all this. 01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:41.680 So let's start with Queen and Black number five. 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:48.479 Queen in Black number five is my most hated single issue of all time. 01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.399 I'm and I'm I'm not just that's not me over exaggerating. 01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:53.279 That's not me. 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.880 Like, I genuinely cannot think of a single comic that I hate. 01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:59.279 Actually, no, I can think of one that, but this one is worse. 01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:00.239 Is it that wing? 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:02.159 No, the that's funny though. 01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:06.800 The the one I hate is the one where uh it was like a Venom X-Men crossover book. 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:07.119 Okay. 01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:09.439 You you're gonna it's gonna click for you in a minute. 01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:17.840 It's the one where uh Venom, the Symbio and Eddie explore their uh their sex drives. 01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:19.119 Yes, I remember that. 01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:22.000 I remember reading that and I was like, I hate this. 01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:23.840 This is the worst thing I've ever read. 01:36:25.039 --> 01:36:36.239 Um this this trumps that now for sure because this is I came across that book in my box the other day, and I was like, oh, you're still here. 01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:37.920 I have never left. 01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:41.600 I haven't even on a no I've been in this box the whole time. 01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:49.039 Don't we're just gonna keep on moving uh from that. 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:52.960 That brings a whole new meaning that she stole his goo. 01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.079 Anyway, no. 01:36:56.479 --> 01:37:02.479 So uh again, Queen in Black number five is the worst comic I've ever read, the worst single issue that I've ever read. 01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:05.119 And we're gonna we're gonna I'm gonna review it as quickly as possible. 01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:05.439 Okay. 01:37:05.600 --> 01:37:08.319 So we get into the beginning where we have Hella versus Null. 01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:14.479 They're fighting, and again, this is the this is probably what the third panel in the entire Queen and Black series. 01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:18.640 Main the main title where we actually see them fighting. 01:37:18.720 --> 01:37:23.600 I don't I didn't even I've I've not read their fight or seen their fight or nothing because I'm not picking up Defenders of Light and Dark. 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:27.680 For this event, I'm only picking up Venom, Venom Unchained, and Queen and Black. 01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.840 So already this fight between these two should be in the main book. 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.920 It's not, whatever, let's move on. 01:37:34.079 --> 01:37:42.399 So they're fighting, and Hella absorbs Null, and we see Beta Ray Bill being like, This is this was all part of Tony Stark's plan B. 01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:53.600 Let's attack and attacks uh Hella uh and he slams her his hammer on her head and kills her, and null bursts through her her stomach and arises out of her. 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:57.600 And he's like, I am I am the the king in all. 01:37:57.760 --> 01:37:59.920 I am the king of light and dark. 01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:02.079 I am, you know, I'm I'm null. 01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:09.520 And uh uh he says he says uh all the glorious light and endless darkness in one being, the king in all. 01:38:09.680 --> 01:38:13.600 I am everything, all the better to end everything. 01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:27.760 And then we hear someone say, Hi there, and we see it is Venom World, which uh if you don't know what Venom World is, it's it's labeled as every sent every sentient being on earth has bonded with the Venom Symbiote. 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:32.159 To be quite honest with you, it's just the Venom Symbiote bonded with the planet, is really what it is. 01:38:32.319 --> 01:38:34.560 And he says, How's your day going? 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:35.359 to Noel. 01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:36.399 I love the voice. 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:40.159 You gotta keep it up. 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:46.159 Um, so Noel kind of appears outside and he's just like, you know, I could destroy you with my fingertips. 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:48.319 You know, I'm I'm I'm the god of all. 01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:51.600 I'm the or like I'm the god of everything, the light and the dark. 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.960 And he's like, You ain't seen nothing yet. 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:59.840 And he's like, and his tongue comes out and and rips Null's arm off. 01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:04.000 It it cuts through Null's arm, and he's like, Huh, I'm more symbiote than I thought I was. 01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:05.359 How interesting. 01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:14.239 And he he gets rid of his body, becomes pure energy, and flies inside of Venom's Venom's mouth. 01:39:14.479 --> 01:39:19.840 Um and we also cut to the Venom Mindscape where all of the heroes are in there. 01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:23.279 They all have black and white

costumes or gray and white black costumes for some reason. 01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:26.640 They don't look symbiofied, they just look like gray and white. 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:31.520 And of course, Codex has a new look, as this is probably his fifth new look out of this entire run. 01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:42.239 Um and Null appears as a giant entity, just saying, like, you know, I you know, uh uh, and how am I among you, the nothing in your hearts? 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:49.199 Over eight billion of you crawling, muling, uh, puking little animals, and all of you against all the others. 01:39:49.359 --> 01:39:51.840 Uh, not even a common language to speak. 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.079 Meanwhile, I am pure and perfect void. 01:39:54.239 --> 01:39:59.199 The void made flesh, and my only desire is for the void to consume all. 01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:02.319 I'm the big bad guy, blah, is pretty much what he says. 01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:02.960 Yes, yeah. 01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.840 And all of the heroes are like, okay, let's go. 01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:07.439 And he just swats them all away. 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:14.640 What's what's really annoying about that particular moment is Wolverine saying, All right, Emma, like, let's do the fastball special. 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:20.640 And she literally just uses her telepath powers to throw everybody at her. 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:21.920 Yeah, literally, yeah. 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:33.199 And uh, yeah, and then we see uh uh he turns around and there's a giant MJ in this world, and she's like, uh, uh, that's how we win. 01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:38.000 Because uh, you know, Null says so very ordinary, like, you know, you're just ordinary people. 01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:39.920 And she's like, That's how we win. 01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:49.520 And I'm about to give you, I'm just like, I have to read this because it's honestly like it's it's I'm just gonna say it. 01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:55.279 We defeat Null in this book by the power of unity, is how Null gets defeated. 01:40:55.439 --> 01:41:07.680 The god of the void, the first being to exist in the universe, the creator of the all black, the creator of the symbiotes, god of the symbiotes, king in black, the lord of the abyss, is beaten by the power of friendship. 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:10.319 What the fuck? 01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:15.199 Sorry, but what the fuck is this? 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.279 Um, MJ is talking about how there's eight billion people. 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:26.159 Uh eight billion of us, no, and almost every one of us is just an ordinary person living an ordinary life. 01:41:26.479 --> 01:41:28.079 You're the special one here. 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:31.600 Uh, just like you say, you're the embodiment of the void. 01:41:31.680 --> 01:41:35.680 And since you left your body uh behind, that's all you are. 01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:38.880 You're you're pure in a way that we can't be. 01:41:39.039 --> 01:41:46.720 The pure uh concept of emptiness, nothing but nothing, this biggest nothing in the universe, in a room with eight billion somethings. 01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.199 And then you start hearing words come in, and the first word you hear is dog biscuits. 01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:53.119 Dog biscuits. 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:54.319 He left me. 01:41:54.479 --> 01:41:59.760 Uh hot butter toast, mother said to hide, uh, heat up the beans and and add them. 01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:01.359 I can't believe he left like that. 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:02.479 Everything was so loud. 01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:05.439 It's like all these little voices coming in saying random things. 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:09.760 And NJ goes on and she says, Uh, do you think that was a good idea? 01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:15.199 And he's like, he hears all the voices, dog biscuits, beans, and it's butter toast. 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:17.279 And then he's like, What? 01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:17.840 What? 01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:21.279 No, no, stop it! Uh all their voices. 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:25.600 Uh the the things, the the yammering uh about tiny things, stop it. 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:26.399 Do you hear me? 01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:27.840 I'm in control here, stop it. 01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:31.920 Maybe drop a fried egg on lend me your ears, dropping bombs every day. 01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:36.000 Not even a text and uh cat treats and these I'm actually reading words. 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:37.359 These are actual words from the book. 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:39.279 I'm not making any of these random things up. 01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:40.079 These are actual words. 01:42:40.239 --> 01:42:49.920 And MJ says, eight billion people, eight billion and I have sorry, I'm I'm try I I I'm having to read this beat for beat just because of the fact that this is it's atrocious. 01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:58.319 Uh eight billion people, eight billion lives, eight billion supporting players, and uh all together to do what their superheroes couldn't do alone. 01:42:58.479 --> 01:42:59.199 All those lives. 01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:01.600 Wait, hang on, let me hold this up so I can actually read it better. 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.279 Um, all those lives. 01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:05.119 Well, shoot, I already lost my spot again. 01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:12.800 Because those lives are full of wars and loves and accidents and flowers and deaths and breakfasts and Shakespeare plays and dog biscuits. 01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:14.000 And then you hear more voices. 01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:16.479 Uh wish for those I mean, don't even have a cat. 01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:18.079 Just go English, why not? 01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:30.479 Uh the God And then you see and injuries and loose change and birthday candles and atrocities and phonies and hurricanes and dental appointments and everything else that anyone ever did or saw or said or felt. 01:43:30.720 --> 01:43:36.800 Every life full of full to bursting with beautiful, heartbreaking, meaningless, meaningful somethings.

01:43:36.960 --> 01:43:38.720 And now you're stuck, Null. 01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:42.000 You're stuck in here with all of it. 01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:51.920 No, no, all the voices and just fades into nothing. 01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:57.920 And then we see all the heroes like, oh, oh, we did it! We we beat him! We beat him! Well, where's MJ? 01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:01.600 And MJ's like, ah! Because she her brain is also being weird. 01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:06.560 And then you see Venom World, it's looking around in the universe going, Mary Jane? 01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:11.039 All the symbiotes come off of the planet, and then Earth is fine. 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:13.920 And then Logan goes, I'll be damned. 01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:15.119 It's over. 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:28.159 We cut to we cut to sometime later in the Baxter building, where Reed Richards is talking to MJ, saying, Your atoms, they're they're fixed, you're you're all better, you're everything's like, I I don't understand, it doesn't make any sense. 01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:37.520 And and it's like uh uh, you know, he was exponentially powered for a moment, and Venom was bonded with every mind on the planet, so he probably found a cure for your problem. 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:39.439 You're you're healed, Mary Jane. 01:44:39.680 --> 01:44:57.359 Now, if you recall, the reason Mary Jane has been bonded to Venom is because uh because of Paul's little gambling jackpot machine, uh it landed on three skulls, which then was uh was disintegrating her by her atoms, and the symbiote bonded with her to keep her together. 01:44:57.520 --> 01:45:02.319 And that's the reason why they couldn't separate because if they did she would just disintegrate. 01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:04.640 And yeah, so it's just healed. 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:07.279 Everything's just fine, everything's back to normal, and everything's better. 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:14.399 Um and she kind of talks to uh you know Reed and she's like, I I just you know, is it weird that I miss Venom? 01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:19.920 You know, for the moment we really were friends, or you know, at the very least we were roommates, and now he's gone forever. 01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:23.680 And he's like, I don't know, you know, like I felt the same way about Victor Von Doom. 01:45:23.760 --> 01:45:26.399 You know, he's about to be in the next Avengers, so I need to talk about him for a minute. 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:30.239 Uh uh even if Venom survived, he's he probably found a new host. 01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:38.239 Uh, you know, there could be one person over eight billion, and eight billion, they keep saying eight billion people, and they keep referring to like the planet of eight billion people. 01:45:38.399 --> 01:45:39.039 I don't know why. 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:41.119 That's just something that it's consensus something. 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:45.279 They really wanted to emphasize emphasizing that there's eight billion people on the world. 01:45:45.439

--> 01:45:52.079 Um and they're just saying, like, you know, you know, it had to bond with some random person, or maybe it just didn't bond with anyone and it's just gone. 01:45:52.239 --> 01:45:54.800 And we're just gonna pretend like Venom maybe vanished away. 01:45:54.880 --> 01:45:55.760 I don't know. 01:45:56.000 --> 01:46:00.640 Um, and then we cut to what I would argue is the better part of the book. 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:04.319 Um Null is in, I guess, the unbeyond. 01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:10.319 I don't know what that is, but uh it says in the war for the throne in black, uh, there could only be one winner. 01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:14.159 And uh he's like, Oh, my throne, it's still there waiting for me. 01:46:14.399 --> 01:46:19.760 And you hear, uh, like it's empty, it's supposed to be empty, I'm the void that's supposed to fill my throne. 01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.319 And Sleeper is like, but it isn't empty. 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:30.079 And uh you see Sleeper's eyes pop up, and he has taken the throne, and the sleeper sleeper is now the king in black. 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:31.199 Why? 01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:32.800 I don't know. 01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:34.880 He just kind of did became that way. 01:46:35.279 --> 01:46:36.399 And that's the end of the book. 01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:39.760 That's the end of Donnie Cate's or that's the end of Al Ewing's Venom. 01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:42.239 That's at least the end of Queen in Black. 01:46:42.479 --> 01:46:46.880 There's a another ending in his solo book, Venom 262. 01:46:47.279 --> 01:46:56.079 Now, before we get to that, which I will review a lot quicker because it's kind of just this copied and pasted into a different book with a little bit of difference differences here and there. 01:46:56.640 --> 01:46:57.439 This is awful. 01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:00.560 This is this is a really awful way to end an event. 01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:05.840 We have ended this event with literally the biggest nothing sandwich I've ever had. 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.319 We beat null with the power of unity. 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:14.399 And it's like it's it's I can't help but stop and think like this is the end? 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:15.439 This is your ending? 01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:18.720 Like you've been writing this book for four years, Al. 01:47:19.039 --> 01:47:22.159 You've been writing this since what, 2021, 2022? 01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:24.000 And here we are in 2026. 01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:25.039 Oh, five years. 01:47:25.199 --> 01:47:25.439 Yeah. 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:41.279 And this is the way your book ends with with Mary Jane bonding the symbiote with everybody on the planet, and then just, you know, we all work together, and you're just disintegrated, and that's it by the power of we're the somethings, and you're you're you're the void of nothing. 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:46.159 You're the god of nothing, and we're somethings, and something is better than nothing, and you're nothing, and we're something, and we win. 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:47.039 That's that's the end. 01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:47.840 That's literally it. 01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:50.880 And I I'm I I I I'm crashing out a little bit. 01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:52.960 Do it, dude, do it, do it. 01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:54.319 It's stupid. 01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:55.039 It's dumb. 01:47:55.840 --> 01:47:56.800 This is so dumb. 01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.399 This is the dumbest way to end the book. 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:00.239 And honestly, I stuck out. 01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:09.199 I stuck through this nightmare of my favorite character being ripped apart and changed and turned into Mary Jane and Queen in black and this, that, and the other. 01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:12.880 This was just a waste of of time, energy, and money. 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:17.520 Like, this is a story that was written and printed and stapled and sent to me is what it was. 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:25.439 And it's like, this is the best you can come up with for your end, is just like, and then also the thing with Mary Jane and her ad like it that's just nothing. 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:27.760 That's we're just not gonna figure that out, and that's just it. 01:48:27.920 --> 01:48:32.960 She doesn't have to make some big sacrifice of her life to to free the symbio or to save everybody. 01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:34.319 It's just it's just over. 01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:41.199 Just because everybody in the world can scream about dog biscuits and ramen noodles and whatever, and toast and this, that, and the other, and no just disintegrates. 01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:42.560 That's what it was. 01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:45.039 Like, that's the that's how they beat Noel. 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:45.600 That's it. 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:46.399 Yeah. 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:47.680 Pathetic. 01:48:48.159 --> 01:48:49.760 That's what I have to say about it. 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:51.920 Um, anyway, let's move on. 01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.399 Let's move on, because I I I wanted to kind of talk about all of this in one big summary at the end. 01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:01.199 Um, so let's move on to Venom 262, which is the last Venom title. 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:05.119 Um, pretty much what happens in it is it's the same story from a different perspective. 01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:15.600 We see um when Venom World consumes everybody, we see Um Mary Jane is actually everybody's kind of in their own different like reality almost. 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.319 So like everybody's frozen in this venom mindscape. 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:18.640 Okay. 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:24.800 So which is already counteracting what's happening in Queen in Black because everybody's not frozen and just chilling there in the ether. 01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:27.840 Um in this universe, everybody's in their own little reality. 01:49:28.079 --> 01:49:29.279 In this universe, yeah. 01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:32.079 And uh I guess in the same universe, different comic. 01:49:32.159

--> 01:49:45.439 Uh, but MJ's reality is she's sitting there having a cup of coffee with Venom, and they're having a cup of coffee together, and she's like, So I guess this is kind of the end, and he's like, Yeah, um, you know, we gotta do something, because uh, you know, whatever. 01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:49.760 And then I guess he has this feeling of like, oh, Hella just died. 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:51.119 Something's happening. 01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:59.680 And so they swing away and go to a theater, and which uh in the theater, Mary Jane's on on stage with Venom, and they're arguing. 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.159 Like they're they're all they get to the point where they're almost fighting. 01:50:02.399 --> 01:50:06.800 You know, like she's like, you know, you like I you're the one who threw Paul off the roof. 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:08.239 And he's like, it's not that simple. 01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:10.000 I didn't throw Paul off the roof. 01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:11.279 We threw Paul off the roof. 01:50:11.359 --> 01:50:12.159 It's both of us. 01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:14.640 Like the whole point of us being bonded is a we thing. 01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:16.079 You mean torment, not Paul? 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:16.880 Torment. 01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:17.680 Yeah, sorry, my bad. 01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:24.800 Um and um so they keep arguing and mid-argument, uh, Venom stops and goes, Eddie? 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:26.159 And then disappears. 01:50:26.319 --> 01:50:26.479 Hmm. 01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:28.399 Which will relate to Venom Unchained. 01:50:28.479 --> 01:50:29.520 We'll get to that in a minute. 01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:32.560 Um, which again is the true ending of this book, in my opinion. 01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:37.199 Um, and then MJ is on this stage and she's like, I have to tell everybody that everything's okay. 01:50:37.359 --> 01:50:38.960 How do I I don't know how to do this? 01:50:39.039 --> 01:50:43.359 Uh like she's like, I just gotta be the actor that I've always meant been mean meaning to be. 01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:53.439 And she's on this stage, there's a spotlight, and she goes, Everyone, if you can hear me, and she says the big announcement from the end of the first issue of Queen in Black, where she's like, We we're all Venom World, right? 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:54.000 Yeah. 01:50:54.239 --> 01:51:01.840 And uh then you hear clapping, and Null steps up on stage from the audience, uh, and he's like, Oh, hello, and blah, blah, blah, blah. 01:51:02.239 --> 01:51:05.920 And um, then the book just kind of ends, is what I last said. 01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:11.359 Well, I remember because I skimmed through it and that um Eddie is at the end of it. 01:51:11.520 --> 01:51:11.760 Yes. 01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:13.680 And he's something like we'll make it more popular. 01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:14.319 Oh yes. 01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:17.199 We um so we we have the same argument. 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:22.720 So, like literally Noel walks up on stage and they have that final battle that takes place in Queen in Black number five. 01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:28.800 So the thing that happened in issue one of Queen in Black and issue five is happening in this same book. 01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:29.359 Okay. 01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:33.119 Because, you know, she's giving that speech to everybody, being like, We're all Venom World. 01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:33.279 Yeah. 01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:40.800 And then what, like immediately after Null walks up on stage, and that's when he's like, you know, you're a house divided, and blah, blah, blah, blah, and you're you're the nothing. 01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:42.399 And she's like, No, I'm not nothing. 01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:43.279 We're somethings. 01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.640 And she gives her monologue about how she is something. 01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:53.359 And there is a really cool splash page of like No being disintegrated, and you see all these moments through Mary Jane's life, and then at the bottom is Venom. 01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:54.399 It's a cool, it's a cool page. 01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:54.720 Okay. 01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:55.439 Not gonna lie. 01:51:55.520 --> 01:52:03.439 And then we immediately just cut her on the top of the Statue of Liberty with Spider-Man, and they're talking, and uh, you know, he's like, you know, they're making sure everything's okay. 01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:10.399 And it turns out that the uh anti-carnage symbiote, which is the gold piece of Venom, yeah, is now uh her bracelet. 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:12.159 She's kept it as a little symbiote. 01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:17.039 And he's she's like, oh, it's great, you know, I can use it to if I drop my keys, I can make a new key or whatever. 01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:20.079 And it's just my little personal symbiote that I can have on me. 01:52:20.319 --> 01:52:25.840 And um, you know, she's actually like, hey, you know, I really wish that, you know, I hope the symbiote's okay. 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:29.199 And, you know, I don't know who killed uh Torment. 01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.399 It's still it's you know, he she says the same thing that Venom told her. 01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:35.600 It's it's you know, it's complicated, which is what Venom said to her. 01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:42.239 And um, you know, they they they she leans on Peter's head saying, you know, you know, thanks, Peter. 01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:43.279 Goodbye, Venom. 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:49.920 And then we cut flash forward to Eddie Brock in his apartment, and this is really weird because this is not how it goes in Venom Unchained. 01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:50.239 Okay. 01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:54.399 Like he's in a situation, he's like, he's like, we finally did everything we needed to get you back. 01:52:54.560 --> 01:52:57.840 You know, now we're together again, and nothing can separate us. 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:02.159 You know, you know, uh, I'm going to make this symbiote perfect. 01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:03.600 We are Venom.

01:53:03.840 --> 01:53:05.359 And that's the end of Al Ewing's run. 01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:14.560 And I'm not gonna lie, when I read this page, there was this overwhelming like feeling that I can't describe of just like, we won Mr. 01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:15.199 Stark. 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.520 Almost like it was almost like, yeah. 01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:23.680 Um, so that was the end of Al Ewing's Venom issue, which was similar but different. 01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:31.600 And finally, we have Venom Unchained, which it's uh pretty similar along the same plot line, is we have Eddie and Sleeper. 01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:41.119 They're both uh they wake up after um the first issue of Queen and Black when uh I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll not read look I can I can get through this one quick because it's actually memorable. 01:53:41.279 --> 01:53:58.800 Um uh he wakes up uh after helping um he wakes up after helping Dylan get out of the symbiote intelligence and he's like I blacked out what happened and sleeper's like oh yeah you beat everybody side eye and he's like okay this is weird what it what are you doing? 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:06.880 You're doing something and he's like it doesn't matter, we gotta we gotta go fight and they're on the roof and they're talking and he's like you just you need to explain to me what's really going on. 01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:10.159 And he's like, I've got a plan, kind of a plan. 01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:13.039 Um he's like, I'm just trying to play my cards right. 01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:16.000 The sleeper's talking to Eddie, and he's like, I don't know what that means. 01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:17.359 And he's like, You're about to find out. 01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:20.560 And you see the top of the Baxter building explode with the symbiote. 01:54:20.640 --> 01:54:23.119 So this is referring to when the symbiote starts to overtake everything. 01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:24.880 And he's like, What do we do? 01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:27.039 And sleeper's like, just let it happen. 01:54:27.359 --> 01:54:30.880 And then they get the symbiote overcomes them, and then they wake up in the hive mind. 01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:35.760 So while they're in the hive mind, Eddie Brock's like, I don't I don't know what we're supposed to do. 01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:39.760 And um, he's like, you know, you need to call out to Venom. 01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.239 If Venom's gonna listen to anybody, it's gonna listen to you. 01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:53.039 Also, I forgot to mention there's one of these books, I think it's the Venom book, when they see the Manhattan in the in this in the like distance, uh Peter and Reed Richards, they say Venom, Venom Hatton or something. 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:55.279 They call it Venom Hatton anyway. 01:54:55.359 --> 01:55:00.800 Uh, but in this book, uh Sleeper's like, you need to reach out to Venom, talk to the symbiote. 01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:02.640 And he's like, I need you. 01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:04.800 It's Eddie Brock, I

need you, please come in. 01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:12.640 And the symbiote tendrils come down from the sky, forming almost like a very skinny black Spider-Man looking, like it's the symbiote without a host. 01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:14.720 And it's like, how do we keep getting here? 01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:16.399 How do we keep getting to this moment? 01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:22.399 And Sleeper, for the first time in probably I don't know how long, stands up and is in his original sleeper form. 01:55:22.479 --> 01:55:22.880 Oh, really? 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:26.479 Yes, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've waited so long to see this. 01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:29.760 Finally, it's been since like freaking forever. 01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:37.199 It was honestly, it was uh um Extreme Carnage was the last time we saw him as his as his original sleeper outfit. 01:55:37.359 --> 01:55:37.760 Yeah. 01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:43.840 Um and the symbiote says, you know, like I I just I don't know what to do. 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:47.279 And sleeper goes, honestly, I want to be the king in black. 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:51.600 And the symbiote's like, you know, honestly, I think you could handle it better than we could. 01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:58.000 We have other priorities and we have other things that we need to do, but I think you could be a better leader of the symbiotes than we could. 01:55:58.479 --> 01:56:00.479 And he's like, I'll do my best, thank you. 01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:07.920 And the symbiote bonds back with Eddie, and then at the end it says, We will do our best to be the best hero we can be. 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:08.960 We are Venom. 01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.199 And then that's the end of Venom Unchained. 01:56:12.079 --> 01:56:16.479 So, in conclusion, oh, I have one more thing. 01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:18.720 Okay, and this is something that you've been dying to hear, I'm sure. 01:56:19.039 --> 01:56:20.239 Yes, I have been wanting to hear. 01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:25.600 Um, this morning I got up and immediately I was uh I'm in a Venom Discord server where we all chit-chat about Venom. 01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:33.520 And and in this moment we were all talking, and um someone had told me like Al Ewing actually responded to the hate that this book has been getting. 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.000 And it's not on Twitter, it's on some random thing called like uh blue blue sky? 01:56:38.159 --> 01:56:38.640 Blue sky. 01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:40.000 I've never heard of that before. 01:56:40.239 --> 01:56:43.920 Um, but he uh he says, I'm gonna read you everything in order. 01:56:44.159 --> 01:56:45.359 This is what his reaction is. 01:56:45.439 --> 01:56:48.479 And I'm I'm gonna kind of respond with my overall. 01:56:48.640 --> 01:56:50.159 I want to respond to Al Ewing. 01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:55.760 I want to respond to how what he's saying, and I also want to respond to the entire situation of this book. 01:56:56.000 --> 01:56:56.239 Okay. 01:56:57.600 --> 01:57:03.840 Looking at a very, very rough day on the personal life front with a lot of stress and hard emotions attached. 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:11.119 I mentioned it because the uh invented reader fanfic version of me will probably be doing a lot of running around today. 01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:17.039 There's an odd thing that happens when you write comics, especially comics with the quote unquote big characters. 01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:22.640 Uh when where where you are somehow where you somehow become more fictional than the people you write. 01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:25.279 MJ and Venom are real and have feelings. 01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:28.720 I have whatever motivation you assign me or editorial. 01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:30.079 It's not a lot of fun. 01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:35.039 Obviously, I'm doing myself no good talking about this phenomenon because it's just more fuel. 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:35.840 But fuck it. 01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:37.840 It's going to be a grim day anyway. 01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:43.039 I'm going to be doing too much grieving to worry about what some YouTuber thinks. 01:57:43.199 --> 01:57:47.520 And obviously, uh and obviously big thanks to anyone wishing me well. 01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:48.720 I appreciate you. 01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:50.239 Yeah, it was bad. 01:57:50.479 --> 01:57:54.159 Guys, this was all caps, nothing to do with comics. 01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:59.359 I have an actual personal life, and I'm undergoing a period of real actual tragedy. 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:05.600 I am a great personal I am in great personal emotional pain, and this is the rest of this is in all caps. 01:58:05.680 --> 01:58:09.119 I have a life outside of your stupid fucking Reddit hobby. 01:58:09.359 --> 01:58:13.840 And he says, I really am sorry I brought it up today, but you see what I mean now? 01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:16.159 That's what Al you mean. 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:18.000 That's that's his response to Venom. 01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:24.479 So this is kind of my adult, mature, realistic response. 01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:29.600 And I need Al to kind of if I if Al's listening, this is meant for you to hear me. 01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:31.119 And I know I've bitched a lot. 01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:32.479 I've been bitching about this book a lot. 01:58:32.640 --> 01:58:34.720 It's kind of been a little bit of a joke to a point. 01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:39.439 You know, I've kind of over-exaggerated a few moments, but this is my honest, raw opinions. 01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:46.960 When you picked up this book, when Al picked up this book, he picked up a character that is near and dear to a lot of people. 01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:49.920 Venom is now what I would consider a legacy character. 01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:53.600 I would honestly say that Venom is up there with Spider-Man and Captain America and all that. 01:58:53.680 --> 01:59:01.119 He's the only Marvel villain to have a series going all the way up to 262, and it's still going on, right? 01:59:01.359

--> 01:59:04.479 And the only one to have a um movie franchise. 01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:06.159 He has a movie franchise. 01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:11.520 He has he's in every video game, almost every video game Marvel related, they have to put Venom in it. 01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:15.119 You know, he's a very popular character, okay? 01:59:15.600 --> 01:59:25.520 And Al, when you picked this up, you picked it up after Donnie Cates wrote it, and Donnie Cates put a lot of heart and imagination and creativity into this story, into his story. 01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:28.479 And you picked it up and we're supposed to continue that story. 01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.279 And clearly you had, you know, Al had some stuff in mind. 01:59:31.359 --> 01:59:38.560 He had some, you know, very intense out like he had places he wanted to take it, and for some reason it didn't go there. 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:45.359 Now I don't know if it's editorial, I don't know if it's arguing, I don't know who is directly to blame for the decisions being made in this book. 01:59:45.600 --> 01:59:57.840 But when All New Venom was announced, and it was announced that Mary Jane is the new host of Venom, you took a character that was so super ingrained and buried, and you you you ripped it apart. 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:01.520 You took a Transformer action figure and you took all the pieces off of it, is what you did. 02:00:01.600 --> 02:00:02.000 Yeah. 02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:08.640 And instead of rebuilding it, you kind of just put the pieces wherever and then said you called it done when it was very much not done. 02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:11.680 And the conclusion of this book proves that. 02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:14.319 Now, I don't know what's going on in Al Ewing's life. 02:00:14.399 --> 02:00:15.680 I don't know how this is affecting him. 02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:17.199 I don't know if he loved this book. 02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:18.640 I don't know if he hated this book. 02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:21.279 I don't I I cannot speak on Al's behalf. 02:00:21.439 --> 02:00:28.000 But what I can say from one writer to another, I write stuff, and I I I would kill to have the job that he has. 02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.239 I would kill to be able to write this book. 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:33.520 Um But you're he's writing a lot of things. 02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:35.760 Sorry, I'm keep I keep like talking to Al, but I'm trying to. 02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:38.079 But that's this is this is directed towards Al. 02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:39.279 This is directed towards Al. 02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:44.960 It's that you have been writing this book for the last five years. 02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:47.359 Almost you could maybe argue six years. 02:00:47.520 --> 02:00:48.960 You've been writing this book. 02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:54.800 And when you write a book, you should, you should know where your characters are at least going to end. 02:00:54.960 --> 02:00:56.880 You should know what's gonna happen to them. 02:00:57.039 --> 02:01:02.880 You should have a plan for everything you introduce, every piece of anything you introduce into a story. 02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:05.600 I don't know is not an answer for, hey, why'd you put this in the book? 02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:06.560 I don't know, it looks cool. 02:01:06.640 --> 02:01:07.760 That's not a good answer, right? 02:01:07.920 --> 02:01:13.680 You have to have reasons, you have to have, you know, like you, you just you have to flesh everything out. 02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:15.119 Al didn't. 02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:23.680 Everything he's introduced into this run has stripped another piece of venom away from his original character and added something new that does not fit it. 02:01:23.840 --> 02:01:30.399 I mean, I keep looking at the the amazing or the Venom 262 cover, and all I can think of is like, this is the Venom book? 02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:34.319 Like it's all it's the cover is uh all new venom and MJ Venom. 02:01:34.399 --> 02:01:40.399 They're like looking at each other, smiling, happy, and every all the people behind him are have Venom faces. 02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:55.279 And I'm assuming what he's talking about is that, you know, sure, the way you beat Null is that, you know, uh you're the god of nothing, but we're on Earth, we're all something, and we're all here to do something, and we're somethings and you're nothing, you know, and we're we're better. 02:01:55.520 --> 02:01:58.560 But ow, this is this is this is this is fictional. 02:01:58.720 --> 02:02:02.720 This is stories that we we read that we look up to, right? 02:02:02.880 --> 02:02:04.159 This is our entertainment. 02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:10.720 There's a lot of there's a lot of awful stuff going on in the real world, you know, no matter what you believe, what side you're on, whatever. 02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:12.000 This is our out. 02:02:12.399 --> 02:02:13.920 This is a lot of people's out. 02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:16.960 And we're all comic book nerds, we're all we're all outcasts. 02:02:17.119 --> 02:02:19.680 Yeah, you know, we're a community of outcasts. 02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:29.439 And to come to a book, especially this is why a lot of people are mad at you, is because you took something that meant a lot to a lot of people and you destroyed it. 02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:30.399 I mean, you did. 02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:40.479 You undid everything that everybody loved about this book, and you brought back f characters like Null and you washed him away into nothingness for no reason. 02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:44.880 You you literally took a book and you just completely destroyed it. 02:02:45.600 --> 02:02:48.800 And, you know, again, I don't know what he's dealing with. 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:53.600 I don't know what's going on in his life, I don't know what kind of mental traumatic struggles he's dealing with. 02:02:54.079 --> 02:02:59.119 But dude, if you're going through stuff and you just can't fully give into the story, leave the book. 02:02:59.680

--> 02:03:01.600 Drop the book, don't complete it. 02:03:01.760 --> 02:03:13.760 If you're not if you aren't there, if your full mentality and your your your driven emotions, your passion, if your passion isn't into this book, don't just push it forward just to push it forward. 02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:14.800 Leave it. 02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:26.960 Because because when you push forward, you're asking to be criticized, you're asking to be ripped apart, you're asking for us fans to to criticize you because you're taking something we love and you're destroying it. 02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:30.159 Because to me, this is a this is an abomination to Venom. 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:30.319 Right. 02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:39.439 This is an abomination to what this character is, and you completely like, and again, there's nothing wrong with introducing MJ as Venom or introducing this concept or that concept. 02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:45.199 But when you wrap it up with just like, oh yeah, the whole thing with her and the symbiote, just it's just fixed, it's that's it. 02:03:45.439 --> 02:03:47.600 It clearly shows that you had no plan. 02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:54.239 It clearly shows that you had no goal, you had no endpoint, and to us, that feels like you don't care. 02:03:54.560 --> 02:03:58.159 To me, when I see that, I my first thought is like, I don't feel like you care about this. 02:03:58.319 --> 02:04:01.279 You're writing all these other, you're writing Thor, you wrote The Immortal Hulk. 02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:04.000 Clearly, Al Ewing is a successful writer, right? 02:04:04.079 --> 02:04:05.920 He wouldn't have the job at Marl if he wasn't. 02:04:06.000 --> 02:04:13.600 And he wrote The Immortal Hulk, he's wrote The Immortal Thor, and he's writing Absolute Green Lantern, he wrote Null, he wrote Queen in Black, and he's wrote Venom. 02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:17.760 That's what that's like eight books that he's wrote all in one sitting in one time period. 02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:19.840 If it's too much, drop it. 02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:21.680 Let someone else take it for a minute. 02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:27.279 Even if it just has to be filler stories until we get to whatever, till we get to Charles Soule, that's fine. 02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:35.039 But don't kill yourself trying to get this book out when when you completed this, all this is is it is fuel for the fire. 02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:42.159 It is fuel for people getting mad at you because people are gonna be mad at you because what we see is we see you disrespecting our favorite character. 02:04:42.399 --> 02:04:42.960 Right. 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:56.880 So I mean, I I don't know what he's going through, and I want to again, I'm just I'm just telling you from my point of view that you know like unfortunately, people are gonna be mad at you. 02:04:57.199 --> 02:04:58.000 I'm mad at you. 02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:08.960 Well, when you when you create something and you put it out there for the world, you are sure you're you're wanting to share what you're putting out there. 02:05:09.279 --> 02:05:10.159 And that's why you do it. 02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:12.479 You you don't make it just for yourself and hold on to it. 02:05:12.560 --> 02:05:16.880 If you did, then everybody would have their fan fictions and comics wouldn't exist. 02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:20.560 So you you you put it out there into the world. 02:05:21.520 --> 02:05:31.439 That means there there is a good thing that comes with that, but there is a there is it's a double-edged sword because there is inherently a negative that comes with that. 02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:38.000 For example, when I make the Instagram posts for our Instagram, I'm putting something out there that I want to talk about. 02:05:38.319 --> 02:05:43.039 Things I enjoy or things that I don't enjoy, and whatever it is, I want to talk about it. 02:05:43.359 --> 02:05:47.119 But in doing so, I know that I'll have some people who agree with me. 02:05:47.520 --> 02:06:00.159 I know some people will want to engage in the conversation, and I'll have some people who will call me a LARP or will tell me I'm stupid, or will ask why I hate people born in June. 02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:03.439 You know, don't even get me started on that, you jerk. 02:06:03.680 --> 02:06:05.279 You said I was this book. 02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:06.079 How dare you? 02:06:06.239 --> 02:06:07.279 I'm a man of my word. 02:06:07.359 --> 02:06:09.119 I told you, you send me one more out of it. 02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:10.399 We all have a choice, Clayton. 02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:14.960 We all um but but you know, that's a part of creating things. 02:06:15.439 --> 02:06:20.319 So if you are going through something personal in your life, and I'll I I wish you the best. 02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:25.520 I hope that you work through whatever you're going through or um you know, whatever you're experiencing. 02:06:25.600 --> 02:06:28.079 I I pray for you and I hope the best for you. 02:06:29.279 --> 02:06:36.880 But as a writer, as a creator, you you have to understand that what you're putting out there will be criticized. 02:06:37.119 --> 02:06:40.399 It may be enjoyed, but it will also be criticized. 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:46.399 And if and if whatever you're going through right now, you can't handle the criticism as well. 02:06:46.880 --> 02:06:54.479 Um some of it, some stuff that you have offered, like you have today, and stuff you've offered in the past, has been constructive criticism. 02:06:54.640 --> 02:06:54.800 Right. 02:06:54.960 --> 02:06:57.359 Well, this doesn't connect to this, this needs to connect to this. 02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:58.960 That's cr constructive. 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:00.640 You forgot this part of your story. 02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:02.079 There's you're missing your lord. 02:07:02.159 --> 02:07:02.880 That's constructive. 02:07:03.039 --> 02:07:07.359 And then, of course, you know, it's a joke that's yeah, we have our moments of just like I hate

how you hang your sucks. 02:07:07.600 --> 02:07:09.840 Like, I can't believe he's, you know, like and that's different. 02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:13.199 You you know which to drown out and what's not to drown out. 02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:18.800 Um, but yeah, you if you had no vision, you have no passion, then then drop it. 02:07:19.199 --> 02:07:26.640 And not only will you not have to deal with that, but the fans who are spending their time and their money, they won't have to deal with it either. 02:07:26.800 --> 02:07:32.880 Yeah, because and that's that's a good point, is that like you know, Al, you write comics. 02:07:32.960 --> 02:07:36.000 You're writing comics, that's how you make it I don't I don't think that job pays well. 02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:38.239 You know, I don't think writing is a good paying job. 02:07:38.479 --> 02:07:43.600 But you know, I I've you know, I've used to work at TJ Maxx, I used to work at a tool shop, you know. 02:07:43.680 --> 02:07:47.600 I I've have I make I don't make as much money probably as you do. 02:07:47.760 --> 02:07:49.520 You know, Al definitely makes more money than I do. 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:49.840 Right. 02:07:50.000 --> 02:08:01.359 And it's like I'm spending my money on your book, the thing that you are writing, the passionate story that you so wanted to tell, you're writing it, it's being printed, and it's coming to stores. 02:08:01.439 --> 02:08:03.039 I've bought multiple variants of these books. 02:08:03.119 --> 02:08:09.600 I've bought like I've I mean I've like I've just got to the point where I finally started stopping myself because I was like, I can't, I can't put more money into this. 02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:09.920 Right. 02:08:10.159 --> 02:08:17.359 It's it is just you you continued to make a craft that you weren't happy about. 02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:24.880 You didn't, I mean, I I I don't feel like you cared for it because if you did, you would have done your research, you would have done your homework. 02:08:25.039 --> 02:08:33.439 The the there's the there's I mean, I honestly I can't I don't even think I can count on my hands how many continuity errors you've made your in your entire time running Venom. 02:08:33.600 --> 02:08:41.119 You have you have made continuous continuity problems, and I think that to me, I I don't feel like you cared about the character. 02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:51.359 So because of that, because of of all these things, like I'm I'm giving you my hard-earned money just for you to write the worst ending of a comic I've ever read. 02:08:51.600 --> 02:08:53.039 And the worst run of a comic. 02:08:53.119 --> 02:08:55.359 I've never read it, I don't think I've ever read a comic would run this bad. 02:08:55.439 --> 02:08:58.640 And and again, I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just being I'm being 100% honest. 02:08:58.880 --> 02:08:59.359 Right. 02:08:59.680 --> 02:09:07.520 If if you are having problems with your life, if you have things going on that you can't control,

there's no problem in stepping out. 02:09:07.680 --> 02:09:09.039 And there's no problem in owning it. 02:09:09.199 --> 02:09:17.600 I would have more respect for you, Al, if you, if you said, hey man, I just honestly I had to pull out because I couldn't, I couldn't write the book good. 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:19.439 Like I just I I could not continue this story. 02:09:19.600 --> 02:09:20.399 I'd be like, you know what? 02:09:20.479 --> 02:09:31.039 I appreciate you you saying that, and I appreciate you stepping out because like man, I I it's it's been bad, you know, and I appreciate you you realizing that and trying to make a bit of difference. 02:09:31.119 --> 02:09:31.680 But you didn't. 02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:37.039 You stuck to your guns, you kept writing this story, and the story ended, and it is the worst ending I've ever read. 02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.439 And I hope that this is a lesson. 02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:46.239 I hope this this it gives you a lesson in life of, you know, hey, if you can't write that good story, there's nothing wrong with pulling out. 02:09:46.399 --> 02:09:52.159 But the amount of money that I've put into this book, just just trusting that maybe something could come out of it, right? 02:09:52.239 --> 02:09:53.520 Because that was the whole point I kept picking this up. 02:09:53.680 --> 02:09:56.319 So maybe it could get good, maybe this could happen. 02:09:56.479 --> 02:09:58.640 And then you you consistently proved me wrong. 02:09:58.880 --> 02:09:59.119 Yeah. 02:09:59.359 --> 02:10:00.560 And there are people out there that like it. 02:10:00.640 --> 02:10:02.079 And if you like this book, that's great. 02:10:02.159 --> 02:10:03.119 I'm so glad you do. 02:10:03.279 --> 02:10:10.640 But man, to uh to an OG Venom fan, to a bit like I I've probably spent like I can't even think of how much money I've put into Venom material. 02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:12.479 Uh I I don't even want to begin. 02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:13.840 I mean I I've seen your room. 02:10:14.000 --> 02:10:20.000 I mean I'm one of those guys that like when Christmas comes around, someone's like, I saw a Venom thing, but I didn't get it for you because you probably had it. 02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:20.800 And I'm like, what is it? 02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:21.439 Oh, it's this thing. 02:10:21.520 --> 02:10:22.159 Yeah, I've got it. 02:10:22.319 --> 02:10:24.399 Like, literally, that's that's just the kind of fan I am. 02:10:24.720 --> 02:10:29.039 Your room is essentially only black and white because of how much venom stuff is in there. 02:10:29.359 --> 02:10:29.600 Literally. 02:10:29.840 --> 02:10:32.640 I mean and your walls are painted like brown. 02:10:32.880 --> 02:10:40.399 Yeah, literally, but but Al, um unfortunately, I'm I'm glad this run is over. 02:10:40.560 --> 02:10:41.760 I'm very glad it's over. 02:10:41.920 --> 02:10:44.560 I'm I'm finally excited to read Venom again. 02:10:44.640 --> 02:10:46.720 Um, so are a lot of the Venom fans. 02:10:46.960

--> 02:10:50.319 But um, you know, I'm sorry for what you're going through. 02:10:50.479 --> 02:10:52.560 You know, I I will pray for you as well. 02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:59.840 But like unfortunately, you you might have some criticism here for a while, and you know, people are gonna look down on you. 02:11:00.000 --> 02:11:04.880 But, you know, like that thing with Spider-Man, you know, there's you have a chance to redeem yourself. 02:11:05.039 --> 02:11:12.880 Um, but man, if you just if you can't write a book, good, and you can't you cannot give all of your energy to a story, there's no shame in dropping out. 02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:13.920 There's there's none. 02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:14.479 There's none. 02:11:14.640 --> 02:11:20.239 Because you're you're saving us customers money, you're saving us our time and our energy that we're putting into it. 02:11:20.399 --> 02:11:21.840 You're saving you're saving it. 02:11:22.079 --> 02:11:23.199 All editorial people, yeah. 02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:27.279 Think about all the people who put hours into this book, make it the artist. 02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:28.720 Think about the artist drawing it. 02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:33.520 Because I don't think Carlos Scope, again, this is a complete speculation, but I don't think he even likes that he's writing the book. 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:39.439 Based on his posts, it's just kind of honestly, you look at it and you think that, oh well, he seems like he don't like it either. 02:11:39.600 --> 02:11:40.159 Right. 02:11:40.720 --> 02:11:44.319 But the the we we are out of the cave, boys. 02:11:44.479 --> 02:11:49.119 Hopefully, with Charles Sol, uh Venom Unchained was my favorite book of this whole event. 02:11:49.279 --> 02:11:51.680 This was the only book of the event that I would consider. 02:11:51.760 --> 02:11:56.800 Like, if I could have skipped everything, Queen of Black, I would have just picked up Venom Unchained and got out all my info from there. 02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:57.119 Yeah. 02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.760 Um, so if you are considering reading it just for the sake of the story. 02:12:00.159 --> 02:12:02.479 Story and you don't want to read, don't don't pick up Queen in Black. 02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:04.479 It is it is a scam event. 02:12:04.640 --> 02:12:07.119 It has no consistent story within the book. 02:12:07.279 --> 02:12:09.039 If you want to pick up Venom, pick it up. 02:12:09.119 --> 02:12:12.960 But Venom Unchained is the is the best of it. 02:12:13.119 --> 02:12:14.800 Venom Unchained is on the pool list. 02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:18.720 Uh Venom is off the pool list, hopefully about to be back on. 02:12:18.880 --> 02:12:20.880 Queen in Black is never put that on the pool list. 02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:22.079 Don't ever, don't even think about it. 02:12:22.319 --> 02:12:23.199 That's a new category of the big thing. 02:12:23.359 --> 02:12:25.039 Yeah, don't even don't even put it on the pool list. 02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:26.000 Don't even question it. 02:12:26.079 --> 02:12:28.880 Like is this is shouldn't have it shouldn't have ever been on the pool list. 02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:32.000 So I got one one last thing to add to this conversation before we move on. 02:12:32.239 --> 02:12:37.920 And you kept saying that you you feel like Allying didn't care as as a reader. 02:12:38.720 --> 02:12:50.319 As a creator, the people in in in uh digesting your media, your whatever you created, they should never reach a point of saying, I feel like you never cared. 02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:53.359 Because if you don't care, why should I care? 02:12:53.600 --> 02:12:54.079 Exactly. 02:12:54.399 --> 02:12:57.840 Um, for your movie, for uh for fragments. 02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:00.800 That was a story that meant a lot to you. 02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:06.880 It's a story you did research on, stories that was very personal, but a story you were excited about too. 02:13:07.039 --> 02:13:07.359 Yeah. 02:13:07.600 --> 02:13:12.800 If you had gone in there, you didn't do any of your research, you didn't care It would have been it would be a completely different film. 02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:13.840 It'd it'd flop. 02:13:14.079 --> 02:13:16.560 It would be I I'd be like, I love you. 02:13:16.720 --> 02:13:17.279 Good luck. 02:13:17.439 --> 02:13:19.119 Yeah, yeah. 02:13:19.279 --> 02:13:19.920 Literally. 02:13:20.159 --> 02:13:26.960 But the fact that like I mean, again, and if he's again, if he says like I I do care about this, it's well you don't seem like that. 02:13:27.199 --> 02:13:27.680 It doesn't show. 02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:29.279 It needs to show. 02:13:29.840 --> 02:13:35.680 Um and you need to have, you know, in college they always told you, or at least for me, have a proofreader. 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:36.000 Yeah. 02:13:36.239 --> 02:13:44.319 You need to have somebody who's not gonna be uh your yes man, you need somebody who's gonna be honest with you, yeah, and tell you, dude, this sucks. 02:13:44.479 --> 02:13:44.960 Yeah. 02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:55.119 And so uh I just that's all I just gotta say is as a creator, uh, your audience should never reach a point where they say, I feel like you didn't care. 02:13:55.279 --> 02:13:55.600 Yeah. 02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:59.279 And I've felt like that with Al for a very long time, unfortunately. 02:13:59.520 --> 02:14:01.439 So but that is it. 02:14:01.600 --> 02:14:05.520 That is that is the conclusion of Al Ewing's Venom. 02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:07.039 I'm so glad this is over. 02:14:07.199 --> 02:14:08.640 I'm so glad we can move forward. 02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:18.079 I'm very excited to see what Charles Sowell has in in store for us, which I guess our our next episode will probably be Clayface, but our episode after that will be the review of Absolute Batman 25. 02:14:18.159 --> 02:14:22.079 It'll be uh it'll be Charles Soul Venom and uh maybe what else? 02:14:22.159 --> 02:14:23.279 Whatever else comes out around the time. 02:14:23.520 --> 02:14:23.840

Transformers. 02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:26.159 But um, but that's it. 02:14:26.319 --> 02:14:27.680 That's it with Queen of Black. 02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:30.159 The sun is actually shining today, too. 02:14:30.640 --> 02:14:31.119 Dude, it is. 02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:32.159 Oh my gosh. 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:33.119 It's so beautiful. 02:14:33.920 --> 02:14:41.199 For for those listening and who can't see, we're we're sitting in Paul's house and the sun is literally beaming in the house. 02:14:41.359 --> 02:14:42.960 It is kind of hilarious. 02:14:43.359 --> 02:14:49.920 Oh, I can't sing the words or Disney will copyright us. 02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:55.520 Um But that is not all for us. 02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:56.079 Wait. 02:14:56.319 --> 02:15:00.239 Do we want to do we do we we I guess we we've been forgetting our our pool list rankings? 02:15:00.399 --> 02:15:00.640 We have been. 02:15:00.720 --> 02:15:00.960 We've been. 02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:01.920 You know that I thought about that. 02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:06.560 I was in the car the other day and I was like, oh crap, I didn't give any rankings and anything. 02:15:06.640 --> 02:15:07.680 Oh, they're gonna cancel me. 02:15:08.159 --> 02:15:09.840 All of our fans are gonna leave. 02:15:10.079 --> 02:15:11.600 They're not gonna trust me no more. 02:15:12.079 --> 02:15:14.640 Okay, so Amazing Spider-Man 1000, how would you rank it? 02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:16.000 Uh definitely on the pool list. 02:15:16.079 --> 02:15:18.960 I'd say, no, honestly, I'll give it a beyond the pool list. 02:15:19.279 --> 02:15:25.279 Just because, just because I really like the covers of this book. 02:15:25.520 --> 02:15:26.159 Yes, you do. 02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:30.159 I re- I have I have consistently been like, oh man, I wish I could have this cover. 02:15:30.319 --> 02:15:32.000 Oh, I'd really like to have that cover for the book. 02:15:32.079 --> 02:15:38.319 And even we were talking about the Green Goblin one with uh Humberto Ramos, and I was like, well, now I kind of want that cover. 02:15:38.479 --> 02:15:39.600 Yeah, that's a cool cover. 02:15:39.760 --> 02:15:40.640 Um yeah. 02:15:40.960 --> 02:15:44.079 I I the Ramita cover, we've talked about the controversial. 02:15:45.119 --> 02:15:57.359 Um and I almost I was really thinking about buying that one, but I ended up buying the New York Comic-Con exclusive from Pepe La Raz with Peter Parker in the middle, and everybody's behind him with Spider-Man themed phones or ties or whatever. 02:15:57.520 --> 02:15:58.079 It's really neat. 02:15:58.159 --> 02:15:58.319 Yeah. 02:15:58.399 --> 02:16:00.079 Um, so I'm excited to get that in. 02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:00.479 Yeah. 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:05.520 Um, I would say it's beyond the pool list for me, which is probably the first time I've said Amazing. 02:16:06.159 --> 02:16:06.880 Amazing a thousand? 02:16:07.039 --> 02:16:07.119 Yeah. 02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:07.359 Really? 02:16:07.600 --> 02:16:07.840 Wow. 02:16:07.920 -->

02:16:08.479 Okay, okay. 02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:12.399 And I would say that was just because there were some really good stories that really touched my heart. 02:16:12.640 --> 02:16:13.279 There were me too. 02:16:13.359 --> 02:16:13.520 Yeah. 02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:15.680 So I think that's why I'd say it's beyond. 02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:20.159 Now, will I pick up uh uh uh Amazing Spider-Man 1001? 02:16:20.319 --> 02:16:21.359 I don't know. 02:16:21.600 --> 02:16:23.439 I want to, but I also don't want to. 02:16:23.600 --> 02:16:28.720 I don't I don't want to I feel like this is like again, it's like, oh, there's a there's a Mountain Dew on this fish hook right here. 02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:29.039 Yeah. 02:16:29.199 --> 02:16:30.960 Let me just uh let me take a little bite. 02:16:31.359 --> 02:16:33.040 You know, and then I get yanked up. 02:16:37.040 --> 02:16:39.600 But okay, so we ranked our books. 02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:42.559 Uh and by the way, Geiger was beyond the pool list. 02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:44.079 Geiger was beyond the pool list? 02:16:44.159 --> 02:16:44.239 Yeah. 02:16:44.399 --> 02:16:45.280 Like it was insane today? 02:16:45.360 --> 02:16:47.440 Uh yeah, it was I wish you'd talk about him if you want. 02:16:47.600 --> 02:16:50.559 I'm not I'm not going to because I don't want to spoil it, but I'll I'll say this. 02:16:50.719 --> 02:16:50.959 Okay. 02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:56.639 It was so beyond the pool list that um I I did tear up. 02:16:56.879 --> 02:16:57.680 You teared up? 02:16:57.840 --> 02:16:58.479 I teared up. 02:16:58.639 --> 02:16:58.879 Whoa. 02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.879 I do think Geiger hits a little bit differently because I am a dad. 02:17:03.120 --> 02:17:03.680 Interesting. 02:17:03.760 --> 02:17:04.000 Okay. 02:17:04.239 --> 02:17:06.479 Um so I think that's why it hits a little hard. 02:17:06.959 --> 02:17:10.079 Do we finally get to the to the fallout shelter? 02:17:10.319 --> 02:17:12.399 I'm I'm I'm not I'm not gonna tell you. 02:17:12.719 --> 02:17:12.879 Jerk. 02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:15.600 There's too many people listening who are planning on reading it. 02:17:15.760 --> 02:17:17.760 Or your birthday should be in June. 02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:19.520 You know that. 02:17:21.440 --> 02:17:22.559 So, all right. 02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:24.559 We've got some Star Wars news recently. 02:17:24.719 --> 02:17:25.280 Yes. 02:17:25.520 --> 02:17:28.799 We have Star Wars news that is so exciting. 02:17:29.680 --> 02:17:30.639 I'm excited, dude. 02:17:30.719 --> 02:17:31.360 I'm thrilled. 02:17:31.520 --> 02:17:32.079 Yeah, I know. 02:17:32.239 --> 02:17:32.799 I'm so excited. 02:17:32.959 --> 02:17:33.360 Me too. 02:17:33.440 --> 02:17:33.600 Yeah. 02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:34.639 I'm I I can't wait. 02:17:34.799 --> 02:17:35.360 Yeah, it's real. 02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:36.319 I already have my tickets. 02:17:36.399 --> 02:17:37.520 Go ahead and tell me what the news is. 02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:40.639 Yeah, we're gonna get

episodes 10, 11, and 12. 02:17:40.879 --> 02:17:43.440 Yes, yes, but wait, it gets better. 02:17:43.600 --> 02:17:43.760 Okay. 02:17:43.920 --> 02:17:45.520 John Watts is directing. 02:17:46.079 --> 02:17:46.319 Okay. 02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:47.600 Okay, it gets even better. 02:17:47.760 --> 02:17:48.319 Okay, okay, okay. 02:17:48.559 --> 02:17:49.840 Steven Kinsberg is riding. 02:17:50.000 --> 02:17:50.879 Do you know what else he did? 02:17:51.040 --> 02:17:53.200 He did the best movie ever, the four stick. 02:17:53.280 --> 02:17:53.440 Yeah. 02:17:53.520 --> 02:17:56.159 And he also did um um he did X-Men Dark Fanny. 02:17:56.319 --> 02:17:57.520 Oh, that's the best X-Men movie. 02:17:57.680 --> 02:18:00.079 Oh my gosh, we're saved! We're Star Wars is back. 02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:01.520 We're back. 02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:02.639 It's not back. 02:18:02.799 --> 02:18:06.559 It's uh we're we're we're liars here. 02:18:07.200 --> 02:18:09.280 Welcome to the lying episode of Beyond the Foods. 02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:10.879 We're pretend like we like things that we don't. 02:18:11.040 --> 02:18:11.200 Yeah. 02:18:11.280 --> 02:18:12.639 Um, yes, you told me about this. 02:18:12.719 --> 02:18:18.319 Actually, I think I I think this was another one of those posts where I sent it to you and you were like, you should check your messages, loser. 02:18:19.040 --> 02:18:19.360 And I did. 02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:20.000 It was. 02:18:20.239 --> 02:18:22.879 Um, so what do you think about this news? 02:18:23.280 --> 02:18:26.639 Um I know what you think. 02:18:26.959 --> 02:18:28.799 Um but here's what here's what I think. 02:18:29.440 --> 02:18:32.879 Um why, Disney? 02:18:33.040 --> 02:18:33.520 Why? 02:18:34.319 --> 02:18:38.319 Um Clayton, look on the you see that cow right there? 02:18:38.479 --> 02:18:38.719 Yeah. 02:18:38.879 --> 02:18:40.319 I mean it's it's almost dead. 02:18:40.479 --> 02:18:40.959 It's yeah. 02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:43.200 But I think we can get a little bit more milk out of it. 02:18:43.360 --> 02:18:44.719 Yeah, we get we get it. 02:18:44.879 --> 02:18:48.559 You know, it like I shoved a little bit of like mud in his mouth. 02:18:48.719 --> 02:18:49.680 Hopefully he ate it. 02:18:49.840 --> 02:18:52.639 Yeah, but I think we can get a little bit of milk out of it. 02:18:52.799 --> 02:18:55.680 That's no animals were harmed in the beginning of this podcast. 02:18:56.000 --> 02:18:57.840 That's exactly what this is. 02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:04.399 Um, because unfortunately, Disney, you you you reel me in and then you push me right back out. 02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:13.760 Um and it's it's honestly so frustrating with you because you create something so magnificent. 02:19:14.000 --> 02:19:20.079 You create mall, probably one of the best Star Wars contents I've seen in years. 02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:22.159 Maul is incredible. 02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:24.319 How can you create mall? 02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:29.520 And then at the same time say, This

is how we're gonna continue our Star Wars. 02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:35.520 Uh, we're gonna have the guy who write wrote Fan For Stick and uh X-Men Dark Phoenix. 02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:41.200 Now, to this guy's credit, to Simon Kinsberg's credit, he did write some episodes of Star Wars Rebels. 02:19:41.520 --> 02:19:43.280 So those did have good episodes. 02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:46.799 He wrote X-Men First Class, which was a decent movie. 02:19:47.280 --> 02:19:54.000 He wrote um Days of Future Past, which um wait, first X-Men First Class and Days of Future Past. 02:19:54.399 --> 02:19:56.079 I don't mind Days of Future Past. 02:19:56.159 --> 02:19:57.440 Is it fantastic? 02:19:57.760 --> 02:19:59.600 No, but it's not bad. 02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:05.840 Um and he also wrote um X-Men Apocalypse, again, not a not necessarily bad, but not the greatest. 02:20:06.479 --> 02:20:09.280 So you're not exactly filling me with confidence here. 02:20:10.159 --> 02:20:15.440 The story is also supposed to be set 15 years after the rise of Skywalker. 02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:20.319 It is supposed to be Ray Skywalker's story as she rebuilds the Jedi Order. 02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:27.680 Now, here's where I'll give Disney credit for is at least this time they will have a cohesive story for all three movies. 02:20:28.799 --> 02:20:31.280 At least they have a vision this time. 02:20:31.680 --> 02:20:45.120 It's not gonna be like seven, eight, and nine where you did one movie, okay, we're going this direction, and then your middle movie goes somewhere else, and then episode nine is just whatever, trying to make fix the mistakes of episode eight. 02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:45.440 Yeah. 02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:49.600 So at least this time we're gonna have a story that flows across three movies. 02:20:49.760 --> 02:20:50.000 Yeah. 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:51.920 So I'll give them credit for that. 02:20:52.559 --> 02:21:04.799 Uh however, why are we focusing on what is arguably your most controversial timeline and why not continue to tell stories in the Clone Wars? 02:21:05.040 --> 02:21:06.719 Which people have been asking for for years. 02:21:06.879 --> 02:21:08.239 More Clone War stories. 02:21:08.399 --> 02:21:12.159 It doesn't have to be called Clone Wars or Bad Batch, it can be called something else. 02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:12.399 Yeah. 02:21:12.799 --> 02:21:16.079 Look at the time there's so many stories we could tell. 02:21:16.239 --> 02:21:20.879 Why are we focusing on your sequel trilogy and for nothing else? 02:21:21.040 --> 02:21:25.120 Now, will there be people in the future who say, I grew up with the sequels and I like them? 02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:28.559 Yeah, there will be because that's the same way it was with the prequels. 02:21:29.280 --> 02:21:32.319 But do we really need to explore that story so soon? 02:21:32.479 --> 02:21:32.639 Yeah. 02:21:32.879 --> 02:21:38.799 You're only doing that because your characters at Disney World and Disneyland are the resistance in the first order. 02:21:39.040 --> 02:21:39.760 Literally, yeah. 02:21:39.920 --> 02:21:41.840 Um, and you've got to make that money. 02:21:42.000 --> 02:21:42.399 Right. 02:21:42.719 --> 02:21:44.799 So I don't know. 02:21:44.959 --> 02:21:47.120 Um I don't have much hope. 02:21:47.520 --> 02:21:50.959 Um Rebellions are built on hope. 02:21:51.360 --> 02:21:52.079 Not this one. 02:21:52.319 --> 02:21:53.600 Yeah, not this one. 02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:57.600 Um I I wish Star Wars could make a comeback. 02:21:57.760 --> 02:22:01.200 You had me so excited with Maul, and now you've lost me. 02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:01.600 Yeah. 02:22:02.079 --> 02:22:05.040 And could you bring me back by Maul season two? 02:22:05.280 --> 02:22:05.680 Maybe. 02:22:06.639 --> 02:22:08.159 But I don't have much hope. 02:22:08.319 --> 02:22:08.959 Yeah. 02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:16.959 My opinions, uh, you know, uh Andrew, uh one of our lovely friends, uh, he we were talking to him about it, and he's he's our big Star Wars guy. 02:22:17.200 --> 02:22:18.159 He loves Star Wars. 02:22:18.239 --> 02:22:25.840 Actually, uh Clayton and Andrew both want me to watch uh Maul, and I just I haven't because I just I I can't I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of done with Star Wars. 02:22:25.920 --> 02:22:26.239 Yeah, I know. 02:22:26.399 --> 02:22:31.440 Like honestly, and and I hate that because I used to like when The Mandalorian came out, I was all about the Mandalorian. 02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:35.920 I love the original trilogy, I love the Clone Wars, I love the the new Clone Wars that came out. 02:22:36.079 --> 02:22:37.360 Like I loved all of it. 02:22:37.600 --> 02:22:47.440 And you know, with the the Sky actually with the Skywalker trilogy, the three were the I guess the raid trilogy, um I'm we went and seen it together and you liked it, and I hate it. 02:22:47.520 --> 02:22:48.879 Yeah, I was like, that was awful. 02:22:49.040 --> 02:22:50.399 And looking back, it's really not that good. 02:22:50.639 --> 02:22:52.239 It's not, but but you know, I mean you were excited. 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:53.120 You were you were excited. 02:22:53.200 --> 02:22:53.600 I get it. 02:22:53.680 --> 02:22:57.840 I'm I've hey I've I've I did the same thing with Venom Let There Be Carnage and Venom the Last Dance. 02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:01.200 I remember when I left Last Dance, I was like, that was amazing, it was so good. 02:23:01.280 --> 02:23:02.079 Venom Horse. 02:23:02.159 --> 02:23:05.760 And then you know, now I'm just like, Paul, be real. 02:23:06.000 --> 02:23:12.719 Um but with with with Star Wars, you know, my suggestion would be just just take a break. 02:23:13.120 --> 02:23:14.959 Maybe maybe take take a few years. 02:23:15.200 --> 02:23:16.479 I would even argue a decade. 02:23:16.799 --> 02:23:19.040 Take a decade of no Star Wars, nothing. 02:23:19.280 --> 02:23:20.239 Just let it rest. 02:23:20.479 --> 02:23:22.239 Let it let people just be done with it. 02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:30.559 And

then be like, hey, you know, we've we've really sat back, we've we've revamped our stuff, we're gonna come back with this story. 02:23:31.040 --> 02:23:32.319 And then tell your new story. 02:23:32.559 --> 02:23:35.680 But do not like Disney, like quit continue. 02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:39.440 Like, why wh I I wish companies would quit doubling down on the things people don't like. 02:23:39.600 --> 02:23:39.760 Right. 02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:41.840 Because it's like, well, you have to like this, it's so good. 02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:43.200 No, people don't like it. 02:23:43.440 --> 02:23:45.200 They don't want it, they don't want more Ray. 02:23:45.520 --> 02:23:49.520 Not that Ray's a bad character, well, she's a bad built character, she's a bad built character. 02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:50.799 She could be a great character. 02:23:50.959 --> 02:23:52.479 She could be, but she is not built correctly. 02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:52.799 Yes. 02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:55.520 You know, or like, I mean, even maybe without you and Venom. 02:23:55.600 --> 02:23:58.000 Like the whole point is like, hey, please stop, and they just keep going. 02:23:58.079 --> 02:23:58.239 Right. 02:23:58.479 --> 02:24:06.399 You know, the whole point of this is that take a break, regroup your surroundings, get your footing, and then stand up again. 02:24:06.559 --> 02:24:06.719 Right. 02:24:07.040 --> 02:24:10.879 You know, you can't just quit trying to stand up when you're already falling, because you're just gonna keep falling. 02:24:11.040 --> 02:24:12.479 Like, literally, that's what you're gonna keep doing. 02:24:12.559 --> 02:24:12.879 Right. 02:24:13.040 --> 02:24:16.719 So, um and even Andrew said, I'm not ready for another trilogy yet. 02:24:16.799 --> 02:24:18.399 I don't think star that's what Star Wars needs. 02:24:18.559 --> 02:24:18.719 Yeah. 02:24:18.879 --> 02:24:21.040 And I never I never went and saw Mandalorian in Grogu. 02:24:21.200 --> 02:24:21.600 I didn't either. 02:24:21.760 --> 02:24:23.040 When it came out, I just didn't care. 02:24:23.280 --> 02:24:24.239 Like, and Andrew saw it. 02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:24.959 He said it was good. 02:24:25.040 --> 02:24:27.680 He said it was literally like a season four of Mandalorian. 02:24:28.000 --> 02:24:30.239 And I'm just like, I just don't care. 02:24:30.399 --> 02:24:36.559 Like, I mean, you know, there was other the backrooms was out at the same time, obsession was out, so I was like all about those because it was like, oh, these are actually good. 02:24:36.719 --> 02:24:36.799 Right. 02:24:36.959 --> 02:24:42.559 Um, you know, but honestly, Star Wars I I probably won't go see it to be honest with you. 02:24:42.639 --> 02:24:46.239 I might, it depends if the trailer really gets me, sure, but I don't think it will. 02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:50.319 So I think I think this is the death of Star Wars in in in my soul. 02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:54.079 See, and I hate to say that, but that's the that's just how I feel. 02:24:54.239 --> 02:24:58.639 We made a post on it, and um, yeah, a lot of a lot of people feel the same way. 02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:00.159 So you're not the only one. 02:25:00.319 --> 02:25:00.479 No. 02:25:00.959 --> 02:25:06.000 Um, another thing in news uh that we found out today is that Secret Wars has also been delayed. 02:25:06.159 --> 02:25:08.879 Um that Secret Wars supposed was supposed to start filming. 02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:10.959 I don't know if you had if you have anything about Star Wars. 02:25:11.200 --> 02:25:18.799 No, that's that's I didn't know if you had anything else about Star Wars, but Secret Wars uh was supposed to start filming, I think, like this month, which is scary because uh Doomsday's not even out yet. 02:25:18.959 --> 02:25:19.040 Yeah. 02:25:19.280 --> 02:25:21.040 And um they had to push filming. 02:25:21.200 --> 02:25:22.959 So they delayed it a second time. 02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:26.159 This is the second delay, second or third delay that it's received. 02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:29.920 Um I don't know when it's been delayed to, but uh yeah. 02:25:30.079 --> 02:25:31.920 Maybe they're reconsidering Venom, hopefully. 02:25:32.319 --> 02:25:33.040 Yeah, yeah. 02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:36.000 Well, see, here's the reason why it's delayed, Paul. 02:25:36.239 --> 02:25:43.520 Is um they're going to let the uh the actors write the script as they're filming, which is exactly what they did for Doomsday. 02:25:43.760 --> 02:25:44.319 That's what I would do. 02:25:44.479 --> 02:25:45.920 Yeah, it makes the most logical. 02:25:46.719 --> 02:25:47.600 I let my actors write frag. 02:25:47.760 --> 02:25:48.479 I didn't even write fragment. 02:25:48.639 --> 02:25:49.040 My actors did. 02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:49.200 Right. 02:25:49.520 --> 02:25:49.920 Just kidding. 02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:51.360 I did I'm not keeping that credit. 02:25:51.520 --> 02:25:52.879 I worked really hard on this. 02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:54.399 Never mind. 02:25:55.120 --> 02:26:03.040 Um, yeah, so I have a feeling that they I think they'll also wait until the reaction of Doomsday, and they'll they'll write it on the spot just like they did. 02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:03.440 Yeah. 02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:13.120 Um, we also have some other Marvel news that isn't necessarily promising, and that is um Spider Noir got canceled, which we've already talked about. 02:26:13.200 --> 02:26:13.360 Yep. 02:26:13.600 --> 02:26:18.000 And so in its place, Amazon or Marvel or Sony or whoever's funding it this way. 02:26:18.239 --> 02:26:21.200 I think it's Sony because they still they own all the Spideyer people. 02:26:21.440 --> 02:26:21.680 Yeah. 02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:22.000 Yeah. 02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:30.079 Um, we are now getting a clone saga series based on Ben Riley and Ben Kane? 02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:31.040 Kane Parker? 02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:32.319 Kane, yeah, whatever his name is. 02:26:32.479 --> 02:26:33.680 Yes, uh Ben Riley and Kane Parker. 02:26:33.920 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02:26:34.319 Is it Kane? 02:26:34.399 --> 02:26:35.520 Is it Kane Parker? 02:26:35.760 --> 02:26:36.159 I don't know. 02:26:36.399 --> 02:26:36.719 It's Kane. 02:26:36.879 --> 02:26:37.600 I know for sure it's Kane. 02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:39.360 It's these characters that nobody cares about. 02:26:39.600 --> 02:26:43.600 Um and it's I like Ben Riley. 02:26:43.680 --> 02:26:44.399 And I don't mind Kane. 02:26:44.559 --> 02:26:46.000 He's got the cool spikes that come out of his hands. 02:26:46.079 --> 02:26:46.959 He's pretty he's pretty cool. 02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:49.680 Yeah, but like do we really need a series on them? 02:26:49.920 --> 02:26:50.719 Not really, no. 02:26:50.959 --> 02:26:53.520 Um I'd rather have a 2099 series or something. 02:26:53.920 --> 02:26:54.879 Yeah, that would be cool. 02:26:54.959 --> 02:27:07.600 Um, but it's gonna be based off of um it's gonna be very similar to lanterns because Marvel has looked at the success of lanterns and has wanted to copy a buddy cop drama similar. 02:27:07.920 --> 02:27:12.799 Well, hopefully they can actually get the funding and the budgeting because my hold on, hold on, hold on. 02:27:12.959 --> 02:27:13.920 Lanterns is good. 02:27:14.079 --> 02:27:17.680 No, I was not I'm not talking about Marvel. 02:27:18.239 --> 02:27:19.440 Don't put the gun at me. 02:27:20.639 --> 02:27:21.520 Put your gun down. 02:27:23.200 --> 02:27:27.680 Um no, I'm saying I'm saying Marvel because I think Spider Noir looked horrible. 02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:28.879 Lanterns looks good. 02:27:29.120 --> 02:27:31.600 What I've seen of it, it looks really good. 02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:40.719 Um Marvel, the the Spider-Verse, the the Spider, the Spider-Man Noir costume looked okay, but I think the the cityscapes looked bad. 02:27:40.799 --> 02:27:46.239 It just it looked very like it wasn't what I wanted because again I like the comics and I like the more serious tone. 02:27:46.639 --> 02:27:51.600 This was more this was more like a hey buddy, you you know, you you you want comp. 02:27:51.840 --> 02:27:55.600 You know, like that I think I think if they can really build their budget up. 02:27:55.760 --> 02:27:56.479 I mean like Fallout. 02:27:56.559 --> 02:28:01.600 We were I think we were talking recently, and I was like, you said Fallout was like I was like, yeah, Fallout's got a really great budget. 02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:03.440 Like they got they got a lot of money. 02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:09.360 I think if this universe did the same, they would have a lot better stuff to work with because it just looks very fan filmy. 02:28:09.680 --> 02:28:09.840 Yeah. 02:28:09.920 --> 02:28:12.319 And I hate it when my Marvel stuff looks like a fan film. 02:28:12.639 --> 02:28:15.280 Shoot, Spider-Man Lotus looked better than Spider-Man Noir. 02:28:15.600 --> 02:28:22.159 I'll be honest, and I know people hate me for my opinion on that, but Spider no Spider-Man Lotus looked way better than Spider-Man Spider-Noir. 02:28:22.399 --> 02:28:22.639 Dang. 02:28:23.040 --> 02:28:27.200 To an extent, there's some of the swing scenes, but again, that's a low budget private project. 02:28:27.520 --> 02:28:28.159 Yeah, fan film. 02:28:28.959 --> 02:28:29.360 Yeah, yeah. 02:28:29.600 --> 02:28:33.840 So but wow, what a what an episode, Clayton. 02:28:34.159 --> 02:28:34.399 Yeah. 02:28:34.559 --> 02:28:35.680 Um man. 02:28:36.719 --> 02:28:41.280 A thousand, the end of Al Ewing, Star Wars. 02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:44.319 You could almost you'd almost say it's a it's a brand new day. 02:28:44.559 --> 02:28:46.879 If some bad come on, come on. 02:28:49.120 --> 02:28:51.840 Uh well, thank you everybody so much for listening. 02:28:52.079 --> 02:28:53.200 Unless you have anything else to add. 02:28:53.920 --> 02:28:54.879 Thank you so much for listening. 02:28:54.959 --> 02:28:59.680 Uh again, we will be our I think our next episode is gonna be Clayface, our review on Clayface. 02:28:59.760 --> 02:29:00.959 I don't know if we'll get that out. 02:29:01.040 --> 02:29:03.200 It'll probably be pretty close to the release. 02:29:03.280 --> 02:29:05.920 So if uh go see it before you listen to us, we'll reiterate that. 02:29:06.000 --> 02:29:07.520 It'll be it will be a spoiler episode. 02:29:07.600 --> 02:29:08.559 We've already planned it. 02:29:08.719 --> 02:29:18.479 And then after that will be our review of Absolute Batman 25, Venom Number One, and uh Transformers Transformers and uh maybe Geiger. 02:29:18.719 --> 02:29:20.079 I don't know what else comes out by that time. 02:29:20.239 --> 02:29:22.799 No, Geiger Geiger doesn't come out till January. 02:29:22.959 --> 02:29:23.600 I don't think so. 02:29:23.760 --> 02:29:26.159 But but um thank you guys so much for listening. 02:29:26.239 --> 02:29:27.440 I'm one of your hosts, Paul. 02:29:27.600 --> 02:29:29.920 I'm Clayton, and uh we'll see you next time. 02:29:30.079 --> 02:29:30.799 Bye guys.