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young people and I feel very old. And then I 86 00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:27.520 got to meet you and it was a delight on 87 00:03:27.539 --> 00:03:27.960 my end. 88 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:29.199 That's nice. 89 00:03:29.419 --> 00:03:31.840 It was a delight to get to meet you. I 90 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:34.860 don't know what got into me at that wedding. I 91 00:03:34.900 --> 00:03:35.919 was so social. 92 00:03:35.979 --> 00:03:36.810 How fun. 93 00:03:36.969 --> 00:03:41.310 In a way that I'm fairly introverted. I present bubbly. 94 00:03:41.389 --> 00:03:43.090 I present extroverted. 95 00:03:43.270 --> 00:03:43.650 Yes. 96 00:03:43.810 --> 00:03:46.550 But I very much am not. 97 00:03:47.030 --> 00:03:47.810 False advertising. 98 00:03:47.830 --> 00:03:49.469 Kristen's similar. It's all fake. 99 00:03:49.729 --> 00:03:49.990 Right? 100 00:03:50.030 --> 00:03:51.210 She is similar, yeah. 101 00:03:51.370 --> 00:03:52.930 I saw her at breakfast knitting. 102 00:03:52.949 --> 00:03:54.219 There you go. 103 00:03:54.289 --> 00:03:55.460 Oh, very on brand. 104 00:03:55.900 --> 00:04:00.319 Very like, what you doing over there, Kristen? 105 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:05.090 She really likes to recharge by herself. I would say 106 00:04:05.330 --> 00:04:08.520 not even recharge, just be. She likes solo time. 107 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:09.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 108 00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:11.080 Yeah, there's something special to that. 109 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.319 I agree. I, once in a while, and I think 110 00:04:14.379 --> 00:04:17.500 Phineas' wedding was such a good place to do that, 111 00:04:17.540 --> 00:04:20.170 where I'm like, I'm here by myself. My husband was 112 00:04:20.250 --> 00:04:22.250 at a wedding, his best friend's wedding. 113 00:04:22.310 --> 00:04:22.379 Mr. 114 00:04:22.389 --> 00:04:22.930 Canada. 115 00:04:23.129 --> 00:04:23.730 John Canada. 116 00:04:23.810 --> 00:04:25.129 It was a house divided. 117 00:04:25.410 --> 00:04:27.970 So we had two weddings this year, and they were 118 00:04:27.990 --> 00:04:28.589 on the same day. 119 00:04:28.610 --> 00:04:28.800 Oh, wow. 120 00:04:29.350 --> 00:04:33.449 The wedding he went to was like a 30-person, tiny, private. 121 00:04:33.750 --> 00:04:34.230 In a field? 122 00:04:34.509 --> 00:04:38.209 Yes, on a cliff. That sounds long. We were at 123 00:04:38.250 --> 00:04:38.930 a different wedding. 124 00:04:38.990 --> 00:04:41.500 We were in high cotton, as they would say. Do 125 00:04:41.509 --> 00:04:42.100 you know that term? 126 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:42.560 No. 127 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.220 It means, like, things are good. Wealth is there. You know, like, 128 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:47.500 you're highfalutin. 129 00:04:47.620 --> 00:04:47.939 Yes. 130 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:50.879 Yeah. It's probably a very... I know. 131 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:52.420 I probably hated that. 132 00:04:52.540 --> 00:04:53.060 If you can. 133 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:56.430 Separate cotton production from slavery, which is certainly hard to do. 134 00:04:56.459 --> 00:04:58.319 I was like, cotton is a word we, like, I 135 00:04:58.370 --> 00:04:59.079 guess can't say anymore. 136 00:04:59.250 --> 00:05:02.110 It's a triggering word. But I do think when the 137 00:05:02.149 --> 00:05:03.889 cotton was high, that meant, like, oh, you were about 138 00:05:03.930 --> 00:05:04.589 to get paid. 139 00:05:04.790 --> 00:05:04.910 Oh. 140 00:05:05.009 --> 00:05:06.930 You know, when it's high cotton, we're about to harvest, 141 00:05:07.329 --> 00:05:08.370 and everyone's going to get paid. 142 00:05:08.389 --> 00:05:09.930 Some people are about to harvest. 143 00:05:10.029 --> 00:05:12.629 Okay, right. So, again... Somehow parse out. 144 00:05:12.649 --> 00:05:14.620 Yeah, it's hard to do. It's hard to do. 145 00:05:14.629 --> 00:05:17.569 It's challenging. There's a lot of these words that went down. 146 00:05:17.790 --> 00:05:21.629 It was a fancy wedding. It was fancy. It's certainly 147 00:05:21.649 --> 00:05:22.060 the fanciest. 148 00:05:22.069 --> 00:05:24.139 It was really nice. It was really nice. 149 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:25.160 It was wonderful. 150 00:05:25.180 --> 00:05:26.680 Yeah, because I don't want to give the impression that 151 00:05:26.699 --> 00:05:29.240 it was ostentatious. It was not. It was just beautiful. 152 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:31.540 Also, another reason why I felt so social is like, 153 00:05:32.379 --> 00:05:34.600 I am one of Phineas' good friends. 154 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:35.060 Yeah. 155 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.480 And I knew that these people are here because they 156 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:38.959 love him. 157 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.180 He doesn't have superficial relationships. 158 00:05:42.459 --> 00:05:42.860 Right. 159 00:05:42.980 --> 00:05:45.899 So I knew that I was safe. 160 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:49.910 So when Jason Sudeikis is like, you know, a couple 161 00:05:50.350 --> 00:05:51.569 seats down from me, I'm like. 162 00:05:52.509 --> 00:05:53.089 Hey, buddy. 163 00:05:53.110 --> 00:05:55.449 All right, we've never met before, but we're going to 164 00:05:55.470 --> 00:05:56.089 be friends. 165 00:05:56.189 --> 00:05:57.129 Yeah. 166 00:05:57.230 --> 00:05:59.769 Yeah, I felt very comfy. And so I met you and... 167 00:06:00.310 --> 00:06:02.589 I just immediately was like, oh, this guy's so down 168 00:06:02.610 --> 00:06:02.949 to earth. 169 00:06:03.269 --> 00:06:06.129 Well, thank you. The power of a wedding, which was 170 00:06:06.189 --> 00:06:08.930 really on display there. I almost could see the utility 171 00:06:09.110 --> 00:06:14.879 of weddings historically, which is you trust everyone there. We 172 00:06:14.980 --> 00:06:17.959 all love this person. This person has co-signed on all 173 00:06:17.980 --> 00:06:20.240 of us, and there's an immediate kind of trust. I 174 00:06:20.259 --> 00:06:22.740 think people were being very candid immediately. 175 00:06:22.759 -->

00:06:23.560 Yeah. 176 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:25.459 Like that you wouldn't be in another setting, but it's 177 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:27.730 just like, okay, these two who we trust have vetted 178 00:06:27.790 --> 00:06:30.959 everyone here. Also, I do want to say, because I 179 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.050 would hate for anyone to get the wrong impression. Yeah, 180 00:06:33.069 --> 00:06:36.129 there were a couple heavy hitters there, Sudeikis being one, Biebs, 181 00:06:36.589 --> 00:06:39.939 but in a lovely way, most people were childhood friends 182 00:06:40.660 --> 00:06:41.540 from both folks. 183 00:06:41.819 --> 00:06:42.920 Yeah, I mean, you had me there. 184 00:06:43.139 --> 00:06:46.300 Yeah, how long have you, you met Phineas at 19, 185 00:06:46.300 --> 00:06:46.769 did you tell me? 186 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:48.079 He was 19. 187 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:48.589 He was 19. 188 00:06:48.589 --> 00:06:50.529 I was 22. 189 00:06:50.529 --> 00:06:50.870 Okay. 190 00:06:51.129 --> 00:06:54.459 I'm the big sis, for sure. We adopted each other 191 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:55.199 pretty quickly. 192 00:06:55.220 --> 00:06:56.240 Yeah, how did you meet? 193 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.060 Technically, we met in a crosswalk. We knew of each 194 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:01.750 other and were in mid-crosswalk going like, hey. 195 00:07:02.269 --> 00:07:03.970 And then we needed to get out of traffic. But 196 00:07:04.009 --> 00:07:06.769 then we got put in a writing session a couple 197 00:07:06.790 --> 00:07:07.250 weeks later. 198 00:07:08.139 --> 00:07:12.459 At ages 22 and 19? Yeah. Okay. Who was putting 199 00:07:12.490 --> 00:07:13.870 together a writing session at those ages? 200 00:07:13.930 --> 00:07:16.990 We had managers that were at the same company. 201 00:07:17.009 --> 00:07:17.589 Oh, okay. 202 00:07:17.629 --> 00:07:19.470 So they're like, we think you guys are going to 203 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:22.529 like each other. And I was married at the time, 204 00:07:22.550 --> 00:07:23.449 the first round. 205 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:24.769 Yeah, this practice round. 206 00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:28.319 Yeah, the tough round. The round that made me tougher. Okay. 207 00:07:29.779 --> 00:07:31.800 Yeah, 22 is an ideal age to get married. 208 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.290 Yeah, that was... Or no, actually, I was 23. I 209 00:07:35.509 --> 00:07:38.269 got married at 23. So it was then. But that 210 00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:42.329 session with Phineas, I think you meet some people that 211 00:07:42.379 --> 00:07:45.129 you immediately... I don't know what you guys feel about 212 00:07:45.149 --> 00:07:45.810 past lives. 213 00:07:46.050 --> 00:07:46.480 Oh, yeah. 214 00:07:46.500 --> 00:07:46.889 Hit us with it. 215 00:07:46.889 --> 00:07:47.579 Do you get into that? 216 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:49.839 Well, listen, we do a lot of astrology here, which 217 00:07:49.860 --> 00:07:51.430 is not my bag, but I don't mind doing it. 218 00:07:51.579 --> 00:07:53.399 And so, yeah, I'm up for past lives. 219 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:55.120 Let's hear it. You buy into it. 220 00:07:55.139 --> 00:07:57.529 I don't buy into your coming back as a beetle 221 00:07:57.610 --> 00:08:00.050 or a tree or whatever. Yeah, reincarnation that way. I'm 222 00:08:00.129 --> 00:08:01.509 not certain of that. 223 00:08:01.589 --> 00:08:01.870 Sure. 224 00:08:01.889 --> 00:08:04.879 I feel pretty certain because there are folks that I've met. 225 00:08:05.420 --> 00:08:07.500 And even how comfortable I was with you immediately. 226 00:08:07.779 --> 00:08:09.220 I don't know that we were best friends in a 227 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:11.660 past life, maybe, but I think maybe we ran in. 228 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.740 You were my barista. There was a comfortability there. I 229 00:08:14.899 --> 00:08:18.550 buy into that. And Phineas and I, we must have 230 00:08:18.629 --> 00:08:21.889 been like mother-son or maybe he. 231 00:08:21.769 --> 00:08:24.269 Was the mother and I was the son. You know, 232 00:08:24.370 --> 00:08:26.990 just really connected. And I've only had a few of 233 00:08:27.050 --> 00:08:27.550 those people. 234 00:08:27.829 --> 00:08:31.069 The documentary about those two had not come out yet. Right? 235 00:08:31.250 --> 00:08:32.210 About he and Billy. 236 00:08:32.649 --> 00:08:36.029 Oh, no. Billy had just put out Ocean Eyes. 237 00:08:36.389 --> 00:08:36.809 Oh, wow. 238 00:08:36.870 --> 00:08:39.500 And it was just starting to take off when we met. 239 00:08:39.860 --> 00:08:42.440 So I really got to meet him in his most 240 00:08:42.539 --> 00:08:43.500 vulnerable state. 241 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:45.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the best time. 242 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:50.460 When things were starting to rise. But he wasn't Phineas yet. 243 00:08:50.980 --> 00:08:51.179 Right. 244 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.679 He wasn't a single name artist that everyone knows. 245 00:08:54.070 --> 00:08:54.309 No. 246 00:08:54.629 --> 00:08:58.669 And I feel really lucky that we met back then. 247 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:02.820 Also just to have All the years that we've had. 248 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.940 Under us now. But love them dearly. I loved the wedding. 249 00:09:06.299 --> 00:09:07.279 It was so fun. 250 00:09:07.299 --> 00:09:08.080 I had the best time. 251 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:09.500 You. Hit me. 252 00:09:09.779 --> 00:09:10.419 I have to say this. 253 00:09:10.620 --> 00:09:11.320 Okay, please do. 254 00:09:11.940 --> 00:09:13.659 You and Kristen are so free. 255 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:14.679 Thank you. 256 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.429 You were on the dance floor just fine. 257 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:18.799 Letting it rip. 258 00:09:18.940 --> 00:09:21.679 Brashing yourself around. You heard about the shirtless? 259 00:09:21.740 --> 00:09:22.259 Yeah, oh yeah. 260 00:09:22.500 --> 00:09:23.960 Yeah, well that was later in the day. 261 00:09:24.220 --> 00:09:27.240 It was hot as Hades,

right? It was a very hot, 262 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:27.960 hot weekend. 263 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.659 I thought to myself, this armchair expert episode is going 264 00:09:31.700 --> 00:09:35.659 to go so well because I have seen him half naked. 265 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:35.940 Wow. 266 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:39.000 And I thought, I'm good. This is going to be great. 267 00:09:39.100 --> 00:09:41.279 If he had it his way, every guest would see 268 00:09:41.340 --> 00:09:41.960 him half naked. 269 00:09:42.019 --> 00:09:44.490 Hey, now. Hey, now. Hey, now. You want to rip that. 270 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:46.230 Shirt off any time you can. 271 00:09:46.429 --> 00:09:47.690 Well, it has to be justified. 272 00:09:47.710 --> 00:09:50.529 By the way, you were a hit. You know that 273 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:52.269 we were all talking about it the next day, right? 274 00:09:52.429 --> 00:09:52.710 No. 275 00:09:52.809 --> 00:09:55.000 That makes me, of course, it makes me, again, I'm 276 00:09:55.009 --> 00:09:57.299 the oldest person there, so, you know. 277 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:57.759 No! 278 00:09:57.860 --> 00:10:01.460 I mean, just objectively, of the friendship group, I'm the 279 00:10:01.500 --> 00:10:04.100 oldest one there by far. Is Jason? You were born 280 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:06.830 the year I graduated from high school, Ash. 281 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.409 Well, you look good, honey. 282 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.200 Thank you, thank you. That delights me to no end, 283 00:10:13.220 --> 00:10:15.820 because I was totally comfortable, by the way. But I'm 284 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:17.860 also very cognizant of the fact that everyone here is 285 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.870 in their 20s, for the most part, or beginning of 30s. 286 00:10:20.860 --> 00:10:22.940 Did that make you uncomfortable at all? No, not at all. 287 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.759 It didn't. I'm just aware of it. And then you're 288 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:26.399 trying to gauge, like, you don't want to be the 289 00:10:26.460 --> 00:10:28.659 weird old guy at a wedding. So I'm like, this 290 00:10:28.740 --> 00:10:30.539 may be the last year of my life I could 291 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.179 go shirtless here, and it's not insane. 292 00:10:33.340 --> 00:10:36.659 You are not. No one thought of you as old. 293 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.059 And by the way, you're not old. 294 00:10:38.379 --> 00:10:39.480 You don't have an old energy. 295 00:10:40.019 --> 00:10:41.100 No, you're very youthful. 296 00:10:41.139 --> 00:10:44.019 Yeah, but I would say that is why they are free. 297 00:10:44.529 --> 00:10:48.570 They are older. There is a wisdom. Age frees you 298 00:10:48.629 --> 00:10:48.970 a bit. 299 00:10:48.990 --> 00:10:52.490 There's an embodiment, I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong. 300 00:10:52.730 --> 00:10:55.549 Yeah. I feel like you seem, and your wife seems 301 00:10:55.580 --> 00:10:58.340 this way as well, very certain of who you are. 302 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:00.519 I like to think so. Yeah. I think I'm pretty 303 00:11:00.779 --> 00:11:02.440 positive who I am at this point. 304 00:11:02.539 --> 00:11:04.539 And you're probably pretty okay with that guy. 305 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:06.980 I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had to quit a 306 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:08.659 lot of things and do a lot of things to 307 00:11:08.700 --> 00:11:11.450 arrive here. So yeah, I like where we've landed. 308 00:11:11.470 --> 00:11:12.429 Well, and to that. 309 00:11:12.350 --> 00:11:15.129 Point, that just tells me you've worked really hard to 310 00:11:15.169 --> 00:11:18.759 get to a place where you're okay with who you are. 311 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:19.179 Yeah. 312 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:21.429 I'm probably proud to be that person. 313 00:11:21.470 --> 00:11:24.110 Let's be honest as well. I had exchanges with Bieber. 314 00:11:24.950 --> 00:11:29.450 I'm still self-conscious, right? In that moment, I'm aware of 315 00:11:29.549 --> 00:11:31.570 the enormous status gap. 316 00:11:32.210 --> 00:11:33.269 Yeah. 317 00:11:33.350 --> 00:11:36.080 It's an objective. I understand he lives in a different 318 00:11:36.100 --> 00:11:38.519 world than me. He has the pressure of if he 319 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:41.220 is close to you, you're thinking about that he's close 320 00:11:41.259 --> 00:11:44.840 to you, right? That's an alienating and an isolating experience. 321 00:11:45.580 --> 00:11:47.039 that I don't have to deal with. 322 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.299 That's not an enviable position. I don't ever want to 323 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.419 be in a space where the whole room is hyper 324 00:11:53.460 --> 00:11:57.179 aware that I'm there and is kind of half looking. 325 00:11:57.259 --> 00:11:59.519 That's too much pressure on any person. 326 00:11:59.620 --> 00:12:01.990 No, I think that's why I kind of never looked 327 00:12:02.139 --> 00:12:06.110 in his direction. I was like, let's not make him feel, yeah. 328 00:12:07.100 --> 00:12:10.460 The story I told myself was that you guys were 329 00:12:10.779 --> 00:12:14.519 all at his bungalow partying. 330 00:12:14.539 --> 00:12:16.340 This is great. 331 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.799 Playing music, his music. 332 00:12:18.899 --> 00:12:19.720 Oh, really? 333 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.500 Because you guys, I think we're maybe next to each other. 334 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:23.500 I didn't even know that. 335 00:12:23.570 --> 00:12:25.889 I'm not a stalker. I just saw you guys at 336 00:12:25.909 --> 00:12:27.970 some point going. We're all neighbors. Yeah, yeah. 337 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:32.029 I thought I heard you laugh and I heard Bieber laugh. 338 00:12:32.889 --> 00:12:34.450 Music. And so I thought you guys. 339 00:12:34.590 --> 00:12:35.049 Oh, I wish. 340 00:12:35.169 --> 00:12:36.850 I thought y'all were very close. 341 00:12:37.009 --> 00:12:39.370 No, that was my first time talking to him in 342 00:12:39.409 --> 00:12:40.049 real

life. 343 00:12:40.269 --> 00:12:42.059 Isn't that funny? We're all doing that. 344 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:42.419 Yes. 345 00:12:42.460 --> 00:12:43.659 We all have groups. 346 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.700 Yeah, we're all making assumptions about other people and their 347 00:12:46.740 --> 00:12:49.279 relationships and where we stand and all that. Oh, it's 348 00:12:49.340 --> 00:12:50.059 so interesting. 349 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:52.340 It's like the grand social experiment. 350 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:52.879 It is. 351 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.409 Yeah, and you're kind of... At least I was. I 352 00:12:55.450 --> 00:13:00.350 was qualifying my position there. Why do I get to 353 00:13:00.389 --> 00:13:03.629 be here in this very... special moment of their lives. 354 00:13:03.809 --> 00:13:06.470 And why do they get, who's that motherfucker here? 355 00:13:06.490 --> 00:13:08.730 Why do they deserve to be here? You know, I 356 00:13:08.750 --> 00:13:10.230 was very psychoanalyzing it. 357 00:13:10.330 --> 00:13:11.309 Well, we're little monkeys. 358 00:13:11.450 --> 00:13:11.750 We are. 359 00:13:11.950 --> 00:13:13.710 And we're in a little group of people. And then 360 00:13:13.769 --> 00:13:17.710 like status is undeniably on the table and obvious. Like again, 361 00:13:17.850 --> 00:13:20.409 if Bieber's there, that is what it is. 362 00:13:20.860 --> 00:13:21.149 Yeah. 363 00:13:21.340 --> 00:13:23.039 My heart goes out to him because I would have 364 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.100 a really hard time in that situation. It would be 365 00:13:26.139 --> 00:13:27.000 really hard for me. 366 00:13:27.220 --> 00:13:27.539 Yeah. 367 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.500 I think Monica's right. 368 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.820 I don't think it's an enviable position and hard to 369 00:13:31.899 --> 00:13:35.720 relate to others. Like we're relating to each other, the 370 00:13:35.820 --> 00:13:38.379 experience of being there and a little nervous and like, 371 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:39.299 does this person. 372 00:13:39.059 --> 00:13:40.480 Know who I am or they don't? 373 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:40.759 Yes. 374 00:13:41.179 --> 00:13:42.950 He had a completely, I can only guess. 375 00:13:43.019 --> 00:13:45.889 He'd be stupid to not assume every person there knew 376 00:13:45.909 --> 00:13:46.350 who he was. 377 00:13:46.570 --> 00:13:47.090 Totally. 378 00:13:47.110 --> 00:13:50.139 Okay. I want to know about San Jose. Take me 379 00:13:50.179 --> 00:13:55.529 to San Jose, 1993. You're born... Wow. You are so cute. 380 00:13:55.889 --> 00:13:57.460 Isn't she the cutest? 381 00:13:57.549 --> 00:13:59.600 And two things I want to say about... And I 382 00:13:59.740 --> 00:14:04.080 never do this. I never comment on... Wow. I'll take it. 383 00:14:04.139 --> 00:14:04.860 It's nice. 384 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:05.940 It is, of course. 385 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.799 No, you're so beautiful. You remind me of Lincoln. 386 00:14:09.940 --> 00:14:11.480 Oh,

sure. 387 00:14:11.500 --> 00:14:13.840 His oldest daughter. 388 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:14.679 Yeah. 389 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.059 Maybe that's why you like me. 390 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:17.419 I think you're really likable. 391 00:14:17.460 --> 00:14:17.990 That's why I like you. 392 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:19.899 Yeah, you are very likable. But you guys have a 393 00:14:20.019 --> 00:14:21.059 similar energy. 394 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:21.279 Also.... 395 00:14:23.730 --> 00:14:26.370 Are you familiar with Gillian Jacobs? 396 00:14:26.409 --> 00:14:27.649 Gillian Jacobs, yes. 397 00:14:27.929 --> 00:14:29.899 Love, the show Love, that we love. 398 00:14:30.220 --> 00:14:31.059 Oh, yes. 399 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:32.399 I love that show. 400 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:35.570 You are her twin. Do you get this? 401 00:14:35.870 --> 00:14:36.870 I know what you're saying. 402 00:14:37.190 --> 00:14:40.690 I've never gotten that. I've gotten some random ones. This 403 00:14:40.710 --> 00:14:41.110 is you. 404 00:14:41.129 --> 00:14:43.809 Because I'm now permitted to join in. 405 00:14:43.830 --> 00:14:47.230 You really look like her. I will take that compliment. 406 00:14:47.450 --> 00:14:48.830 I would have gone up to her if she was 407 00:14:48.889 --> 00:14:49.590 at the wedding. 408 00:14:49.629 --> 00:14:50.230 Yeah, yeah. 409 00:14:50.289 --> 00:14:51.870 You have a history of going up to people. 410 00:14:52.049 --> 00:14:52.990 You know my Margot Robbie story? 411 00:14:53.090 --> 00:14:55.169 I do, I do, I do. Oh, you look like her, too? 412 00:14:55.269 --> 00:14:55.750 Yes. 413 00:14:56.129 --> 00:14:59.529 Oh, my God. So you went somewhere with Phineas. There's 414 00:14:59.570 --> 00:15:01.769 a really funny backstory in this, which is Phineas has 415 00:15:01.809 --> 00:15:03.809 already written the Barbie song, and it's already won an 416 00:15:03.850 --> 00:15:06.710 Academy Award, and he's never met Margot Robbie. Right? 417 00:15:06.750 --> 00:15:07.450 Yeah, loser. 418 00:15:07.470 --> 00:15:10.460 Yeah. You guys go to a barbecue together and she's there? 419 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:11.200 Is that the story? 420 00:15:11.460 --> 00:15:12.620 It was a Halloween party. 421 00:15:12.659 --> 00:15:13.580 Oh, Halloween party. 422 00:15:13.620 --> 00:15:14.059 Yeah. 423 00:15:14.259 --> 00:15:15.419 I was Marie Antoinette. 424 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:16.240 Marie Antoinette. 425 00:15:16.259 --> 00:15:19.220 I had like the beehive and the whole thing and 426 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:20.840 the blood across my neck. 427 00:15:21.100 --> 00:15:25.500 I looked good as hell. I had a couple drinks. 428 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:26.159 Sure. 429 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:26.480 Yeah, yeah. 430 00:15:26.740 --> 00:15:32.750 I saw her and I just thought, why not? 431 00:15:32.850 --> 00:15:33.190 Yeah. 432 00:15:33.250 --> 00:15:33.750 Just go. 433 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:36.970 Go up to her. You got nothing to lose. You do. 434 00:15:36.990 --> 00:15:37.049 Oh. 435 00:15:38.110 --> 00:15:39.809 You have everything to lose. 436 00:15:39.889 --> 00:15:41.909 No, you're right. You have nothing to lose. 437 00:15:41.990 --> 00:15:45.899 There's no harm in asking. There's harm in asking. I'm 438 00:15:45.940 --> 00:15:48.240 finding that a lot recently. This is such a tangent, 439 00:15:48.340 --> 00:15:51.710 but people will ask me for something. Sometimes there is harm. 440 00:15:51.730 --> 00:15:54.840 Like- Even messaging you the other day, I was like, 441 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.149 if I ask him this question and he's uncomfortable, it 442 00:15:58.169 --> 00:15:59.169 puts you on the spot. 443 00:15:59.370 --> 00:16:02.029 There could be harm in that. It's nerve wracking. 444 00:16:02.049 --> 00:16:03.009 I'm the perfect person. 445 00:16:03.309 --> 00:16:05.669 I did feel like there's enough of a kinship. 446 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:06.190 Where I was like, hey, hey, hey. 447 00:16:06.409 --> 00:16:08.029 I was flattered to be asked to be in her video. 448 00:16:08.230 --> 00:16:10.129 That's what she asked me to do. Oh, that's so flattering. 449 00:16:10.149 --> 00:16:11.330 I don't know if I should bring that. 450 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:14.240 I'm recording two mom's cars that day, back to back 451 00:16:14.379 --> 00:16:16.419 on Saturday. And I have the kids and no wife. 452 00:16:16.539 --> 00:16:17.840 So you can't do it? Yeah, can't do it. 453 00:16:17.980 --> 00:16:18.620 He's a very. 454 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.399 Well, that's so flattering to ask someone that. But also, 455 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.460 I agree with you that some asks are too much. 456 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:28.970 They like change your perception of somebody. 457 00:16:29.149 --> 00:16:33.269 When someone asks you something that you don't want or 458 00:16:33.570 --> 00:16:36.509 feel like is probably was an inappropriate ask of you. 459 00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:40.179 My approach now is I completely ignore it. Like I 460 00:16:40.220 --> 00:16:42.360 refuse to let you put me in a position where 461 00:16:42.500 --> 00:16:45.000 I've got to now. Explain to you why I don't 462 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:46.940 want to do it. Be uncomfortable. You be uncomfortable. The 463 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.720 whole thing is like you made this mistake and it's 464 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.159 not mine to deal with. And so I just fucking 465 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.899 ignore it. If it's something that I think is crossing 466 00:16:54.950 --> 00:16:56.470 the line or it's just too murky and I don't 467 00:16:56.490 --> 00:16:58.330 want to deal with it, I feel emboldened to just 468 00:16:58.889 --> 00:17:00.990 pretend it never happened. It's on them. 469 00:17:01.169 --> 00:17:02.590 I think that's incredible advice. 470 00:17:02.990 --> 00:17:05.410 I don't know you to be in this crazy, uncomfortable situation. 471 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.839 Because we have our phones on us all the time, 472 00:17:07.880 -->

00:17:11.200 I think people assume that they have access to us, 473 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:14.039 free access. And I feel like I've been learning this 474 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:16.720 in the last couple years. And I think Finn has 475 00:17:17.380 --> 00:17:22.519 helped me with this. But no one has permission to 476 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.289 my access without me saying, hey, yes. So if you 477 00:17:26.309 --> 00:17:28.529 happen to have my number, which now you do. 478 00:17:28.630 --> 00:17:28.809 I do. 479 00:17:29.890 --> 00:17:33.789 If you text me or call me, great, but I 480 00:17:33.950 --> 00:17:36.779 haven't just given you permission to have access to me 481 00:17:37.140 --> 00:17:39.180 every single moment of the day. 482 00:17:39.299 --> 00:17:41.400 And if I text you at some point and say, 483 00:17:41.460 --> 00:17:45.059 my daughter loves the wedding song, she wants to hear 484 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.200 it on her birthday, will you leave her a message? Mm-hmm. 485 00:17:47.660 --> 00:17:48.240 Ignore that. 486 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:48.960 Ignore it. 487 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:49.059 Yeah. 488 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:50.119 What are you talking about? 489 00:17:50.339 --> 00:17:51.539 Or if it's for Lincoln. 490 00:17:52.339 --> 00:17:52.640 Okay. 491 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:55.609 But think of the example. But if like I'm asking 492 00:17:55.650 --> 00:18:00.640 you to be an on-demand organ grinder monkey for my amusement, 493 00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:01.680 you just ignore it. 494 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:02.779 Yeah. 495 00:18:03.019 --> 00:18:04.440 Because they're not going to have the balls to bring 496 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:04.849 it back up. 497 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.440 You're also a man. 498 00:18:06.460 --> 00:18:07.259 I sure am. 499 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:09.940 Do you feel like, I'm curious if you feel a 500 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:13.690 different experience that as women, I feel like I've a 501 00:18:13.710 --> 00:18:16.470 little bit had to, if you don't respond, then you're 502 00:18:16.490 --> 00:18:17.190 a bitch. 503 00:18:17.190 --> 00:18:18.190 100%. 504 00:18:18.190 --> 00:18:18.990 You feel that way? 505 00:18:19.170 --> 00:18:22.069 I like that advice. I wouldn't feel comfortable ignoring. 506 00:18:22.250 --> 00:18:23.690 I do think it's great advice, by the way. 507 00:18:23.950 --> 00:18:26.000 For years I confronted it. I would go like, you 508 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:27.940 know what? I don't think this is like a fair 509 00:18:28.099 --> 00:18:30.640 ask of me. But now I'm in a debate with you. 510 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.500 They get defensive. This is like six exchanges that I 511 00:18:33.569 --> 00:18:35.490 don't deserve to have to do. 512 00:18:35.970 --> 00:18:40.410 And that's also an option. You can be like truthful 513 00:18:40.470 --> 00:18:44.299 and say this is inappropriate. Or you can do the 514 00:18:44.450 --> 00:18:47.700 really easy thing, which is just say, hey, I'm sorry 515 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:48.160 I can't. 516 00:18:48.529 --> 00:18:48.940 No, thanks. 517 00:18:48.980 --> 00:18:49.730 You can lie. 518 00:18:49.829 --> 00:18:52.630 You can lie. Or it's actually not a lie. You 519 00:18:52.809 --> 00:18:56.849 can't because you saying yes would not make you feel good, right? 520 00:18:56.910 --> 00:18:59.069 So you can just say, oh, I'm so sorry. I 521 00:18:59.109 --> 00:18:59.849 can't do that. 522 00:19:00.410 --> 00:19:01.130 Period. 523 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:04.660 And then that does go away. But you've responded, honestly, 524 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:05.539 with a boundary. 525 00:19:05.779 --> 00:19:07.680 Bo, do you think they would interpret that as I 526 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.799 can't do it, period? Like, oh, right, she's on her period. 527 00:19:10.819 --> 00:19:12.480 That's why she can't do it. 528 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:13.220 Well, I probably am. 529 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:15.160 Yes, you are. 530 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:16.799 In that way, it's honest, too. 531 00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:18.200 If it's the luteal phase. 532 00:19:18.339 --> 00:19:19.400 Yeah. I can't, period. 533 00:19:19.420 --> 00:19:21.880 We're always on our period, okay? You get like one 534 00:19:21.940 --> 00:19:22.339 week free. 535 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:24.859 We are always in our luteal phase, by the way. 536 00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:28.690 You're actually, guys, I'm ovulating today. Do I feel magnetic? 537 00:19:28.750 --> 00:19:29.930 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 538 00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:30.509 You're glowing. 539 00:19:30.549 --> 00:19:31.329 Fertile. 540 00:19:31.490 --> 00:19:31.829 Fertile. 541 00:19:31.869 --> 00:19:35.029 You're catching me on such a good day. Tomorrow, it 542 00:19:35.069 --> 00:19:35.750 all changes. 543 00:19:36.049 --> 00:19:37.069 I now have the app. 544 00:19:37.869 --> 00:19:38.890 You do, to follow. 545 00:19:38.910 --> 00:19:39.329 Flow. 546 00:19:39.730 --> 00:19:40.250 Flow? 547 00:19:40.990 --> 00:19:41.450 Yes. 548 00:19:41.630 --> 00:19:44.809 And I have Flow for Partner. Yeah, and if I 549 00:19:44.930 --> 00:19:47.450 open it, and I'm not gonna say who I got 550 00:19:47.470 --> 00:19:49.250 it for, there's just a lot of women in my life, 551 00:19:49.269 --> 00:19:50.589 let's just say, and I have it. 552 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:52.900 You didn't get it for your wife? 553 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:54.500 This will get cut up. I have daughters that I 554 00:19:54.539 --> 00:19:57.200 need to know, too, if they're on another planet. Yeah. 555 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:57.980 So at any rate. 556 00:19:58.279 --> 00:19:59.519 All on one app? 557 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.380 Well, no. We started it with. 558 00:20:02.420 --> 00:20:04.000 Like a shared calendar? 559 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:05.119 I think that's genius. 560 00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:07.079 But at any rate, yes, I opened it. I've only 561 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:08.700 used it a couple times. I happen to be a 562

00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:10.799 hero of this one. I opened it, and it said, 563 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:14.019 you know, your partner's four days out. Offer her a 564 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:17.180 substantial meal. Well, the night before, I had made the 565 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:22.170 most enormous batch of spaghetti that was exceedingly substantial. And 566 00:20:22.250 --> 00:20:24.750 I was like, look at this. I'm fucking ahead of sketch. 567 00:20:24.789 --> 00:20:25.569 Isn't that crazy? 568 00:20:25.609 --> 00:20:26.430 It gives you tips? 569 00:20:26.630 --> 00:20:27.309 Yes. 570 00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:30.000 You were like locked into the cycle already. 571 00:20:30.019 --> 00:20:32.319 I somehow subconsciously knew it was time to prepare a 572 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.349 substantial meal the night before. Genius. 573 00:20:35.869 --> 00:20:39.430 I recently had my IUD taken out about four months ago. 574 00:20:39.609 --> 00:20:41.509 We're not ready to have a baby today. I have 575 00:20:41.529 --> 00:20:42.269 a hit song right now. 576 00:20:42.450 --> 00:20:42.930 Yeah. 577 00:20:42.990 --> 00:20:43.230 You're busy. 578 00:20:43.259 --> 00:20:45.470 We're working on that first. 579 00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:48.400 But next year, I was like, well, I want to 580 00:20:48.460 --> 00:20:51.180 make sure my body is ready when that time comes. 581 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:52.720 Now you want to get in that natural rhythm there 582 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:53.259 for a minute. 583 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:53.759 Yeah. 584 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:57.440 And I never had PCOS when I first hit puberty 585 00:20:57.539 --> 00:20:59.859 and then when I went off birth control pill for 586 00:20:59.859 --> 00:21:03.420 10 years, which is now famously horrible for you. 587 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:03.519 Yeah. 588 00:21:05.009 --> 00:21:06.009 For 10 years? 589 00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:07.430 I was on it for a long time, too. 590 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:10.059 Really? Very long. Are you natural now? 591 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:11.059 Well, I got off it. 592 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:12.660 Is that your personal question? No, it's fine. You do 593 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:13.299 not have to answer that. 594 00:21:13.339 --> 00:21:13.759 No, of course. 595 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:15.140 I froze my eggs. 596 00:21:17.859 --> 00:21:18.799 How many eggs you got? 597 00:21:18.940 --> 00:21:21.160 Oh, I don't have very many. I'll tell you that. 598 00:21:21.180 --> 00:21:21.799 Girl. 599 00:21:22.299 --> 00:21:25.589 I froze my eggs. And actually, this is important because 600 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:27.890 I refused to get off birth control. I was like, 601 00:21:28.029 --> 00:21:31.130 I'm not getting off birth control just to freeze my eggs. 602 00:21:31.190 --> 00:21:33.390 This is part of my daily life. I need it. 603 00:21:33.470 --> 00:21:35.089 I need it for X, Y, and Z, blah, blah, blah. 604 00:21:35.109 --> 00:21:36.930 Even though the doctors were like, it's probably going to 605 00:21:36.970 --> 00:21:38.329 be better for you if you get off of it 606 00:21:38.369 --> 00:21:40.630 for a couple months. I'm like, I'm not. I didn't. 607 00:21:41.549 --> 00:21:43.089 And then that went horribly. 608 00:21:43.109 --> 00:21:45.019 You didn't get off it. 609 00:21:45.390 --> 00:21:46.789 I did not get off. I got off of it 610 00:21:46.829 --> 00:21:49.960 like the month before. And then I did the retrieval. 611 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.960 And then I got two eggs, which is not ideal. 612 00:21:54.220 --> 00:21:55.799 And then I did it again. And so then I 613 00:21:55.819 --> 00:21:57.619 was like, oh, fuck. Okay, I should probably do it again. 614 00:21:57.700 --> 00:22:00.660 And I will stay off the birth control. So I 615 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.700 was off of it for a year. I did it again. 616 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:05.029 And it was a better result. Still wasn't amazing, but 617 00:22:05.140 --> 00:22:05.789 it was better. 618 00:22:05.809 --> 00:22:05.890 Good. 619 00:22:06.349 --> 00:22:08.450 So it is important to be off of it for 620 00:22:08.470 --> 00:22:08.869 a little bit. 621 00:22:08.890 --> 00:22:10.329 I think your body... This is so crazy. I have 622 00:22:10.410 --> 00:22:11.869 no idea how old you are. 623 00:22:11.869 --> 00:22:11.930 39. 624 00:22:11.910 --> 00:22:14.430 You look so what? 625 00:22:14.569 --> 00:22:16.630 Thank you. 626 00:22:16.930 --> 00:22:20.700 I mean, could be 20s for sure. 627 00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:22.799 I will take it. I'm not going to. 628 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:26.420 I was graduating. She was in kindergarten when you were born. 629 00:22:26.460 --> 00:22:27.170 Yeah, I was. 630 00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:27.259 Yeah. 631 00:22:27.500 --> 00:22:28.759 Wow, those are really good genes. 632 00:22:28.779 --> 00:22:29.339 Kindergarten. 633 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:29.740 Thank you. 634 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.359 Kindergarten. But yeah, congratulations on making that choice. That's so. 635 00:22:34.309 --> 00:22:37.250 intimidating and scary, and I'm glad the second round was better. 636 00:22:37.269 --> 00:22:37.789 She made a. 637 00:22:37.769 --> 00:22:40.970 Whole podcast about it, which is phenomenal, called Race to 35. 638 00:22:40.970 --> 00:22:42.430 I will be listening to that. 639 00:22:42.450 --> 00:22:42.759 Thank you. 640 00:22:42.769 --> 00:22:44.470 Yeah, I did it with a friend, and we went 641 00:22:44.509 --> 00:22:45.450 through every day. 642 00:22:45.470 --> 00:22:45.539 Wow. 643 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:46.950 We're feeling what we're doing. 644 00:22:46.990 --> 00:22:48.900 We talked a lot. I'm 33. 645 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:50.019 This is a great time. 646 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:54.180 We're in that window where I'm like, let's get all 647 00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:57.579 the tests done. Phineas actually told me to do the, 648 00:22:57.740 --> 00:23:00.579 is it genome, where you get your blood tested. 649 00:23:00.099 --> 00:23:02.589 And see if you

have any of the Yeah, some 650 00:23:02.609 --> 00:23:05.309 of the stuff. Diseases. I had nothing. 651 00:23:05.329 --> 00:23:06.049 Amazing. 652 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:08.339 And now my husband doesn't have to do it because 653 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:09.359 our kids won't. 654 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:12.400 You need recessive and he has a recessive. 655 00:23:12.420 --> 00:23:13.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 656 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.779 How did we get here? This is what we do. 657 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:15.410 This is what we do. 658 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:17.400 You guys are really good conversationalists. 659 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:19.440 Oh, Margot Robbie is how we got here. 660 00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:20.039 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 661 00:23:20.059 --> 00:23:21.880 Which I, by the way, haven't told the story yet. 662 00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:23.400 I know, I know. Earmarked. 663 00:23:23.589 --> 00:23:25.029 It's okay. We don't know what to talk about. 664 00:23:25.049 --> 00:23:26.230 No, we have to. Let's go back. 665 00:23:26.329 --> 00:23:27.450 So, okay, you approach her. 666 00:23:27.509 --> 00:23:29.809 Why did I bring up the IUD again? Oh, oh, 667 00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:30.549 the cycle. 668 00:23:31.509 --> 00:23:33.089 I am ADHD. 669 00:23:33.569 --> 00:23:34.789 Hi, guys. 670 00:23:34.809 --> 00:23:35.630 We all are. 671 00:23:35.670 --> 00:23:36.880 We are. 672 00:23:36.890 --> 00:23:39.640 I want to get to a normal place, and now 673 00:23:39.700 --> 00:23:44.200 I'm starting to, but I've never experienced the full range 674 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.680 of the female scope until the last four months. 675 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:48.279 Yeah. 676 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.450 How's that going? Wow. What are the highs? What are 677 00:23:51.470 --> 00:23:51.869 the lows? 678 00:23:52.069 --> 00:23:56.779 I genuinely feel this week of your ovulating, I feel 679 00:23:56.819 --> 00:23:57.619 more magnetic. 680 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.630 I feel more social. I feel funnier. 681 00:24:00.650 --> 00:24:01.829 You're open to mating. 682 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:04.299 I would like to make it. 683 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.869 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 684 00:24:06.269 --> 00:24:10.690 I have found people attractive this week that I've never. 685 00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:12.529 Oh, God. 686 00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:14.349 That's great. I love my husband. 687 00:24:14.470 --> 00:24:17.039 He would be fine with me saying this. But, whoa, 688 00:24:17.670 --> 00:24:20.200 this week hits and you're like, oh, my God. Has 689 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:21.839 he always been that good looking? 690 00:24:22.019 --> 00:24:22.759 I don't think so. 691 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:24.039 This is great. 692 00:24:24.619 --> 00:24:26.519 But then two days from now, I will be. 693 00:24:26.539 --> 00:24:26.619 Yeah. 694 00:24:27.190 --> 00:24:28.190 Everyone will be disgusting. 695 00:24:28.490 --> 00:24:31.170 Anyways, it's just interesting. Margot Robbie was great. 696 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.559 Okay, I know how it started because we were wondering 697 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.859 if there's bad questions. That's where it all started. Then 698 00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:39.240 it turned into, yes. So, yes, you see her. You 699 00:24:39.259 --> 00:24:41.299 decide I'm going in. You've had a couple drinks. You 700 00:24:41.339 --> 00:24:42.720 approach her and what do you. 701 00:24:44.259 --> 00:24:44.400 Say? 702 00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:48.130 I say, hi, so sometimes people say that we kind 703 00:24:48.150 --> 00:24:51.849 of look alike, which is the worst thing you could 704 00:24:51.890 --> 00:24:55.490 say to Margot Robbie. Because she's one of the most 705 00:24:55.529 --> 00:24:58.150 beautiful people on the planet. She is, but you do. 706 00:24:58.369 --> 00:25:00.390 How did she respond? Let's first find out the answer 707 00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:01.930 to that. Because I think it went well. 708 00:25:02.130 --> 00:25:05.000 It went so well. Well, because she's lovely. And she 709 00:25:05.059 --> 00:25:06.279 said we should start a band. 710 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:08.019 Great response. 711 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:11.329 So cute. Oh, and then she said she has a 712 00:25:11.380 --> 00:25:12.910 cousin who looks like. 713 00:25:13.539 --> 00:25:14.220 Us. Oh. 714 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:15.789 Oh, my God. 715 00:25:15.829 --> 00:25:17.289 Just three of you. 716 00:25:17.309 --> 00:25:19.569 So she was like, well, rope my cousin in. I 717 00:25:19.589 --> 00:25:21.250 think it was cousin. It could have been someone else. 718 00:25:21.390 --> 00:25:22.130 The triplets. 719 00:25:22.170 --> 00:25:24.910 I think you can get Gillian involved. We got a 720 00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:26.009 real something going on. 721 00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:26.730 Okay. 722 00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:27.410 Genius. 723 00:25:27.730 --> 00:25:29.400 This is what a friend of mine did. 724 00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:29.819 Okay. 725 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.700 So my friend Scott Johnson constantly got told he looked 726 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.880 like Kiefer Sutherland all through our 20s. And lo and behold, 727 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.940 he's at a bar drinking one night in Koreatown, and 728 00:25:39.009 --> 00:25:42.390 he goes into the bathroom and fucking... Kiefer Sutherland is 729 00:25:42.410 --> 00:25:43.440 standing in front of the mirror. 730 00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.119 Like 24? 731 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.460 Well, Scotty at this point is probably 30. That's who 732 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:50.200 he is. 733 00:25:50.420 --> 00:25:51.339 Of the show. 734 00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:55.569 Oh, sorry. He's the actor, Kiefer Sutherland. And Scotty saddles 735 00:25:55.630 --> 00:25:57.069 up next to him at the sink and he goes, 736 00:25:58.029 --> 00:26:00.069 you must get so fucking sick of people telling you 737 00:26:00.089 --> 00:26:04.759 you look like Scott Johnson. Which pulled him over, yes. 738 00:26:05.619 -->

00:26:08.619 He started laughing. They went and drank together. And then 739 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:10.640 Scotty went back to his house and they partied all night. 740 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:11.509 Oh. 741 00:26:11.849 --> 00:26:13.269 That's such a funny way to say it. 742 00:26:13.309 --> 00:26:15.250 That is the best possible way for that to go. 743 00:26:15.450 --> 00:26:17.430 But I think that's the move. Instead of telling people 744 00:26:17.490 --> 00:26:18.900 that you look like them, do you say you. 745 00:26:18.930 --> 00:26:20.869 It's tricky, though, because you have to look so much. 746 00:26:20.910 --> 00:26:22.049 And he does look a lot. 747 00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:25.730 You do have to. But reminder, liquid courage was involved. 748 00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:25.970 Yes. 749 00:26:26.170 --> 00:26:27.150 I would not have said. 750 00:26:27.910 --> 00:26:30.490 I thought it was a cute connecting moment. 751 00:26:30.690 --> 00:26:31.210 It was. 752 00:26:31.289 --> 00:26:32.650 Luckily, she was great. 753 00:26:33.069 --> 00:26:34.089 I guarantee she agrees. 754 00:26:34.309 --> 00:26:40.380 This is my best story. There's no way she remembers 755 00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:40.980 this story. 756 00:26:41.019 --> 00:26:42.460 Also, she's like, we should start a band. You should 757 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.960 have been like, do you know how to sing? I do. 758 00:26:46.250 --> 00:26:48.630 You could have really turned it, you know? You really 759 00:26:48.650 --> 00:26:50.470 could have made me. 760 00:26:50.990 --> 00:26:53.890 And then I, no, the way I turned it, I said, 761 00:26:54.430 --> 00:26:55.799 I'm here with my friend Phineas. 762 00:26:56.460 --> 00:27:00.220 She introduces Margo to Phineas, who Phineas has already done 763 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:00.799 the Barbie talk. 764 00:27:00.819 --> 00:27:02.559 We haven't met yet. And I was like, do you 765 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.269 want to meet my guy, my friend? 766 00:27:05.309 --> 00:27:05.700 Love it. 767 00:27:05.750 --> 00:27:07.490 So I go over to Phineas and I'm like, hey, 768 00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:08.509 do you want to meet Margo? 769 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:11.950 And he's like, we're in a band together. 770 00:27:11.970 --> 00:27:13.970 Do you want to meet my bandmate, Margo? 771 00:27:14.269 --> 00:27:17.619 He was probably mortified. I don't think so. 772 00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:18.150 This poor guy. 773 00:27:18.470 --> 00:27:21.240 I have put him through the ringer. But you know what? 774 00:27:21.460 --> 00:27:22.049 It's good for him. 775 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:23.299 It's good for him. 776 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:24.180 Yeah. 777 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:31.079 Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert. If you dare. 778 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:35.650 We are supported by Allstate. Checking Allstate first could save 779 00:27:35.670 --> 00:27:39.000 you hundreds on car insurance. Not checking if the movie 780 00:27:39.059 --> 00:27:41.900 is sold out before you show up. You

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most insane, which this is 821 00:29:31.230 --> 00:29:34.410 an interesting, I'd be so curious to get y'all's advice 822 00:29:34.630 --> 00:29:40.339 about this topic. I'm going through a similar time. of 823 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.240 my career where there's one song taken off and there's 824 00:29:44.299 --> 00:29:45.299 this success. 825 00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:47.559 My body. 826 00:29:47.579 --> 00:29:49.319 Is waiting for disaster. 827 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.220 I'm in like, what is it called? Having a trauma 828 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.660 response to it. My nerve endings are pretty fried. 829 00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:56.880 Right. 830 00:29:57.529 --> 00:29:59.390 I think it's good that I'm catching you at this 831 00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:00.119 point of my. 832 00:30:00.099 --> 00:30:03.059 Cycle because I kind of feel as boosted up as 833 00:30:03.140 --> 00:30:03.559 I can. 834 00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:03.660 Yeah. 835 00:30:04.420 --> 00:30:07.900 But my nervous system is really shot right now. 836 00:30:08.109 --> 00:30:09.269 I'm not surprised. 837 00:30:09.730 --> 00:30:11.910 So what do I do? 838 00:30:12.150 --> 00:30:13.769 I would be guessing, I don't know you well enough, 839 00:30:13.849 --> 00:30:19.210 but my guess would be that this pattern actually predates 2020. 840 00:30:19.210 --> 00:30:22.299 in life when things got good did the floor fall 841 00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:24.799 out in childhood a lot the floor fell out for 842 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.619 me often right we were moving houses a lot you 843 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.140 know things were happening a lot so every time something 844 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.029 was good it was like for how long you just 845 00:30:33.089 --> 00:30:34.549 always thought for how long. 846 00:30:34.450 --> 00:30:37.710 That's what life is living with an addict though always 847 00:30:37.849 --> 00:30:40.710 for your whole life is it's a high their high 848 00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:42.950 is also your high because they're like happy and they're 849 00:30:43.009 --> 00:30:46.509 fun and they're like loving and then there's a crash 850 00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:49.650 out at some point. So there's some like, okay, they're 851 00:30:49.690 --> 00:30:52.170 in this phase, so that means this other phase is 852 00:30:52.210 --> 00:30:52.930 about to come. 853 00:30:52.950 --> 00:30:54.039 The luteal phase is around the corner. 854 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:55.740 Yeah, the luteal's. 855 00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.200 On its way. They're ovulating, but they can't ovulate forever. 856 00:30:58.220 --> 00:30:59.700 Yeah, but it's coming. 857 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:01.160 You grow to live like that. 858 00:31:01.180 --> 00:31:01.539 Yeah. 859 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:06.680 My dad was severely bipolar, which really hit when I 860 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.519 was eight. So there was like a big shift then, 861 00:31:11.539 --> 00:31:14.720 which I've always said I'm so grateful that zero to seven, 862 00:31:14.779 --> 00:31:18.529 those are the most informative years those were actually fairly 863 00:31:18.829 --> 00:31:24.450 stable and then seven on everything shattered there was so 864 00:31:24.490 --> 00:31:27.970 much trauma that my little body didn't know what to 865 00:31:28.019 --> 00:31:30.839 do with all of it yeah i've done so much 866 00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:35.319 therapy for sure and emdr and trying to tap into 867 00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:40.460 it i'm definitely the healthiest version now today But there 868 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.700 is stuff that lives there that you're just ready for 869 00:31:43.779 --> 00:31:45.059 the rug to be pulled out. 870 00:31:45.380 --> 00:31:49.049 Well, your brain is formatted. You create neural networks. You 871 00:31:49.089 --> 00:31:52.269 have a higher arousal setting. I have a higher arousal setting. 872 00:31:52.289 --> 00:31:54.849 There's only a lot of physiological things that you will 873 00:31:54.910 --> 00:31:58.509 continue for life. Yeah. You're likely more prone to an 874 00:31:58.549 --> 00:32:01.890 autoimmune disease. You know, there's a lot of predictable stuff. 875 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.569 My husband has had no trauma ever. And I wouldn't 876 00:32:06.609 --> 00:32:09.369 wish any of it on him. But, you know, I'm 877 00:32:09.450 --> 00:32:11.890 explaining some of this to him. And it is really 878 00:32:11.970 --> 00:32:16.220 hard for him to totally wrap his head around that. 879 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:20.140 Because when he's experienced moments of excitement in his life, 880 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:21.559 it's just excitement. 881 00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:21.920 Right. 882 00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:24.849 And I've actually met more people like that than not. 883 00:32:24.890 --> 00:32:27.670 And I think when I meet someone like you that 884 00:32:28.329 --> 00:32:32.829 can understand or relate... There is like a connection there. 885 00:32:33.150 --> 00:32:38.579 I think the thing we're all trying to get to is, yeah, 886 00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.180 the shoe's going to drop. By the way, the shoe 887 00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.319 drops for everybody, right? If someone you love is going 888 00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:44.230 to die, all these things are going to happen. 889 00:32:44.670 --> 00:32:44.869 Yeah. 890 00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:47.569 I think what you and I can get stuck in 891 00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:51.160 is there was a period where we didn't have the 892 00:32:51.299 --> 00:32:54.619 agency to deal with the fallout of these other people. 893 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.660 And we still think we don't. And the truth is, yeah, 894 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.210 something's going to go bad, but also you'll be able 895 00:33:00.250 --> 00:33:03.029 to handle it. You're living with the fear that you 896 00:33:03.049 --> 00:33:08.150 will be incapable of handling whatever comes as if you're seven, 897 00:33:08.390 --> 00:33:08.859 but you're not. 898 00:33:09.599 -->

00:33:09.799 Yeah. 899 00:33:09.900 --> 00:33:13.400 You're not seven. You're 33. You're a gangster. You're prolific. 900 00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:16.809 You're creative. You will handle whatever comes your way. So 901 00:33:16.849 --> 00:33:19.529 I think the thing is trying to right size this 902 00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:22.470 fear of like, yeah, what's going to happen that I 903 00:33:22.529 --> 00:33:24.170 can't handle, but you can handle it. 904 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:24.630 Yeah. 905 00:33:24.650 --> 00:33:28.339 It's just learning to recognize you're not eight. 906 00:33:29.180 --> 00:33:31.799 What helps you recognize you're not eight? What helped you 907 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:32.720 sort of reprogram? 908 00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.140 I had a situation where my mom was newly dating 909 00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:38.720 again at 70 or whatever. She had had this wonderful 910 00:33:38.740 --> 00:33:41.599 husband and he passed and I adored him. And then 911 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.740 all of a sudden there was a new boyfriend coming 912 00:33:43.940 --> 00:33:47.089 to my house to visit when she came to visit. 913 00:33:47.269 --> 00:33:49.329 And I first was like, no, you can't. How long 914 00:33:49.349 --> 00:33:50.470 have you been with this dude? No, I don't want 915 00:33:50.509 --> 00:33:51.170 a dude in my house. 916 00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:51.450 Right. 917 00:33:51.690 --> 00:33:53.829 And I had three or four days where I was 918 00:33:53.869 --> 00:33:55.650 just like, it was off the table. No, you can't 919 00:33:55.819 --> 00:33:57.400 bring a guy I've not met to my house. I 920 00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:58.579 have children, blah, blah, blah. 921 00:33:58.619 --> 00:33:59.200 Yeah, fair. 922 00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.529 And about four days went by and I was like, oh. 923 00:34:02.950 --> 00:34:05.190 You think you're 10 and if this guy comes and 924 00:34:05.230 --> 00:34:07.289 you don't want him to leave, he won't leave. 925 00:34:07.309 --> 00:34:08.150 You have to protect. 926 00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:12.090 You're an adult man who I'm sure physically can remove 927 00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.500 the guy. You're not in danger, right? Even if she's 928 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.579 chosen wrong again and the pattern's here again, I'm not 929 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.340 eight anymore. And I called her back up and I 930 00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.639 was like, I'm fine. Bring him. And if I want 931 00:34:24.659 --> 00:34:25.900 him to leave, I'm going to tell him to leave. 932 00:34:26.860 --> 00:34:27.519 Good for you. 933 00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.219 It didn't go great. And I did end up talking 934 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.699 to the guy. And so that was, that was. 935 00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:36.360 It was good proof for me that I was like, oh, right. 936 00:34:36.579 --> 00:34:38.659 I'm an adult that can take care of myself. Yeah, 937 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.050 and if I don't like the guy, I'll tell the guy. 938 00:34:40.199

--> 00:34:43.469 I've been saying the phrase, I am safe in the 939 00:34:43.530 --> 00:34:46.489 life I've created for myself every morning. 940 00:34:46.750 --> 00:34:47.769 Yeah, that helps. 941 00:34:47.809 --> 00:34:48.630 That's helping. 942 00:34:48.949 --> 00:34:50.849 Also, I think there's a little bit of, what's the 943 00:34:50.929 --> 00:34:54.230 phrase where you miss... I am about to start my period, 944 00:34:54.250 --> 00:34:55.210 so I don't. 945 00:34:54.989 --> 00:34:57.429 Have a brain. Oh, that's the wart those days. 946 00:34:57.530 --> 00:34:58.730 It's a bad, it's bad. 947 00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:00.230 I got all the options here today. 948 00:35:00.610 --> 00:35:03.030 You really do. You're welcome. 949 00:35:03.349 --> 00:35:06.639 I think what Dax said is like, yeah, this is life. 950 00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:09.280 Bad stuff will happen. That's inevitable. 951 00:35:09.300 --> 00:35:09.519 Yeah. 952 00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:13.599 But it's not, Because of the good thing. They're not 953 00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:14.000 tied together. 954 00:35:14.019 --> 00:35:15.340 That was going to happen anyways. 955 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.219 Yeah. 956 00:35:16.260 --> 00:35:18.159 You just happen to have a good thing happening. 957 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.260 Bad things happen. 958 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:20.420 It's coincidental. 959 00:35:20.460 --> 00:35:21.800 It's attribution error. 960 00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:24.420 Ah, attribution error syndrome. I got there. 961 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:26.659 Attribution error. It's not because of that. 962 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.590 You are, look at you. I did it. Right before 963 00:35:28.610 --> 00:35:29.090 your period. 964 00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:35.550 Where she started this moment. The flies show up. You 965 00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:36.230 can call the flies. 966 00:35:36.389 --> 00:35:37.130 It's really inappropriate. 967 00:35:37.190 --> 00:35:38.949 Is it okay that I have my shoes up? Yes. 968 00:35:39.010 --> 00:35:40.719 Is that inappropriate? Okay. 969 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.019 But it's like decoupling those two things. Bad stuff happens. 970 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.619 Good stuff happens. They're not related. 971 00:35:47.179 --> 00:35:51.059 That's really great. Decoupling is a good word for it. 972 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.039 I also think an additional thing that's likely on the table. 973 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.510 So there's that thing. There's like, well, I won't be 974 00:35:57.530 --> 00:35:59.949 able to handle this thing. I'm so terrified of what's coming. 975 00:35:59.989 --> 00:36:02.449 I can feel something's coming. I'm not capable of handling 976 00:36:02.510 --> 00:36:04.590 a challenge, which you are. That's one issue. I think 977 00:36:04.650 --> 00:36:07.630 another one which I suffer from is I don't deserve this. 978 00:36:07.909 --> 00:36:10.659 I'm not worthy of this. I'm an imposter and the 979 00:36:10.739 --> 00:36:14.159 universe is going to smite me immediately if I'm mistaken 980 00:36:14.179 --> 00:36:18.469 for being worthy of this. And that's the internal self-love part. 981 00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:22.739 And I hate to report what got me through that 982 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:26.179 mostly is just having children, I hate to say, because 983 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:32.329 I found such an identity and so much esteem in 984 00:36:32.429 --> 00:36:35.369 my role as a dad that I feel so worthy 985 00:36:35.429 --> 00:36:38.730 of all things now because I just found this bedrock 986 00:36:38.769 --> 00:36:41.110 of esteem for me. I know that's not for everyone, 987 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:42.460 but for me, that's how it was. 988 00:36:42.619 --> 00:36:46.139 That's really profound. There's always that in the back. 989 00:36:46.550 --> 00:36:52.639 It's much more subconscious now. My conscious brain knows I'm great. 990 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.199 And I feel it's a waste of my time to 991 00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:04.090 believe that I'm not worthy of what's coming. 992 00:37:04.730 --> 00:37:06.630 And even more dangerous, if you think you're not worthy, 993 00:37:06.670 --> 00:37:07.710 you will prove you're not worthy. 994 00:37:07.730 --> 00:37:09.710 Yeah, you, like, put your own limiter on yourself, right? 995 00:37:09.730 --> 00:37:12.389 You'll put out a piece of shit somehow. Like, your brain, 996 00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:16.750 your weird subconscious will be like, let's prove I'm right. Yeah. 997 00:37:17.090 --> 00:37:19.659 And then you'll make some shortcut that normally you wouldn't. 998 00:37:19.699 --> 00:37:23.099 Or you do some inexplicable thing that only in retrospect 999 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.780 you'd go, oh, I self-sabotaged to prove I was right, 1000 00:37:25.820 --> 00:37:26.960 that I wasn't worthy of this. 1001 00:37:27.219 --> 00:37:30.019 I mean, I almost quit music altogether, had a pretty 1002 00:37:30.099 --> 00:37:33.699 big mental— nervous breakdown because it was sort of off 1003 00:37:33.739 --> 00:37:37.469 the back of the moral of the story moment and 1004 00:37:38.550 --> 00:37:41.110 my brother dying and all that trauma that I wasn't 1005 00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:43.590 dealing with and then mind you all the childhood stuff 1006 00:37:43.849 --> 00:37:46.590 that is dangerous to go near so that just gets 1007 00:37:46.630 --> 00:37:50.429 set aside as well and then we got closer and 1008 00:37:50.449 --> 00:37:54.809 closer to this big tour coming up and Every day 1009 00:37:54.849 --> 00:37:56.869 we got closer, I started having panic. 1010 00:37:56.630 --> 00:37:59.730 Attacks for the first time. Panic attacks are scary. You 1011 00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:03.300 think you're dying. Yep. Have you experienced that? 1012 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.079 I used to get them a lot. I haven't had 1013 00:38:05.139 --> 00:38:06.019 one in a really long time. 1014 00:38:06.059 --> 00:38:07.280 What a horrifying. 1015 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:07.840 They're

horrifying. 1016 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:09.659 She's an overachiever. So, you know, when she's going to 1017 00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:11.159 have them, she's going to have them all the time. 1018 00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:15.639 Sometimes in the car, which is really fun. No, not 1019 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.579 while you're driving. 1020 00:38:16.820 --> 00:38:19.760 In SoulCycle, going to pass out and fall off a bike. Yeah. 1021 00:38:20.219 --> 00:38:21.000 It was awful. 1022 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.699 I mean, it was such a horrible period of time. 1023 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:23.920 I relate. It's so bad. 1024 00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:24.360 And you do. 1025 00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:25.460 You feel like you're going to die. You understand. You 1026 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:25.730 feel like. 1027 00:38:25.699 --> 00:38:28.150 Something's really deeply wrong with you. I went to so 1028 00:38:28.190 --> 00:38:30.389 many doctors. They're like, you have anxiety. I'm like, you 1029 00:38:30.550 --> 00:38:34.570 don't understand. If you think what I have is anxiety, like, 1030 00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:36.110 you're wrong. And it was. 1031 00:38:36.429 --> 00:38:39.909 It's born from anxiety, right? Did you see a therapist? Yes. 1032 00:38:40.230 --> 00:38:43.579 I started therapy for the first time. That helped. 1033 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:44.139 And. 1034 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:44.780 Whoa. 1035 00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:47.300 And I hate this answer because it's sort of an 1036 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:51.139 external thing. But I started... nannying for them. 1037 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.099 Not your kids being the answer to both. 1038 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.889 You want to borrow them? 1039 00:38:55.949 --> 00:38:56.340 Yeah. 1040 00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:57.670 We're blinking. 1041 00:38:57.750 --> 00:38:58.409 Yeah. 1042 00:38:58.469 --> 00:38:59.769 I need to meet these kids. 1043 00:38:59.929 --> 00:39:02.570 I mean, the kids are deeply special, but it was 1044 00:39:02.650 --> 00:39:04.469 more that I had stability. 1045 00:39:04.789 --> 00:39:05.610 Wow. 1046 00:39:05.630 --> 00:39:08.030 Because before that, I was working on SoulCycle. I was 1047 00:39:08.090 --> 00:39:10.409 babysitting all the time. I was auditioning. I was like, 1048 00:39:10.570 --> 00:39:11.929 what is my life? 1049 00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:15.449 Were you doing this at the time? Was this before armchair? 1050 00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:19.719 Yeah, way, way. So, yeah, this was 2010. When did 1051 00:39:19.739 --> 00:39:20.800 I start? I don't remember. 1052 00:39:20.820 --> 00:39:23.099 Well, Delta was born in 14, so probably 14. 1053 00:39:23.090 --> 00:39:26.170 Yeah, right around 2014 then, I guess. Wow. So, yeah, 1054 00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:27.989 I just had this job that I knew. I went 1055 00:39:28.010 --> 00:39:29.889 in the morning, and I left, and I had, like, 1056 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:30.500 more freedom. 1057 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:31.019 Structure. 1058 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:32.059 Is that how you met? 1059 00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:33.199 Yeah, I started. 1060 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.079 Well, we met socially, and then in that social connection, 1061 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.119 we found out she babysat. 1062 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:38.260 I love that. 1063 00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:39.960 None of the kids died when she babysat. 1064 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.659 They were thriving under my care. 1065 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:43.280 Manny. 1066 00:39:43.500 --> 00:39:44.929 Yeah, they became so much smarter. 1067 00:39:45.030 --> 00:39:50.150 Darker. Darker. 1068 00:39:50.190 --> 00:39:50.710 Darker. 1069 00:39:50.849 --> 00:39:51.630 That's awesome. 1070 00:39:51.650 --> 00:39:54.550 I was giving them the panic peptide every night. 1071 00:39:54.789 --> 00:39:55.510 Anyways, San Jose. 1072 00:39:55.929 --> 00:40:02.369 Yeah. When the bipolar episodes started, it's presumed destabilizing for 1073 00:40:02.590 --> 00:40:05.300 everyone involved yet. It's a contagious condition in ways. 1074 00:40:05.380 --> 00:40:05.760 Yeah. 1075 00:40:05.989 --> 00:40:08.110 You just start feeling. 1076 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:11.360 Like you have responsibility over it. 1077 00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:16.519 Whatever you do is in control of you. their volatility. 1078 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.059 You're trying to regulate them and keep them. 1079 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:23.019 Yeah, whatever they need to make sure you're safe and 1080 00:40:23.059 --> 00:40:25.619 your mom's safe and your brother's safe. 1081 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.239 Do you have an autoimmune yet? 1082 00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:29.400 Not yet. 1083 00:40:29.420 --> 00:40:30.440 That's so stressful. 1084 00:40:30.619 --> 00:40:32.659 Sort of bring this up to the nervous system thing 1085 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.699 and how much of this is psychosomatic because my allergies 1086 00:40:36.230 --> 00:40:39.769 are abnormally bad and feeling like I'm getting sick all 1087 00:40:39.809 --> 00:40:40.190 the time. 1088 00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:45.090 And I'm like, I'm good. I am healthy. This shouldn't 1089 00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:48.489 be like this. It could totally be the start of 1090 00:40:48.530 --> 00:40:51.389 an autoimmune thing, but the whole body keeps the score. 1091 00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:52.130 Yeah, yeah, right. 1092 00:40:52.230 --> 00:40:54.519 It's like, I haven't read the book, but you don't 1093 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:55.039 have to. 1094 00:40:55.059 --> 00:40:58.079 No, no need to. It's in the title. 1095 00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.460 Yeah, great title. 1096 00:40:59.519 --> 00:40:59.820 Yeah. 1097 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:01.239 I almost feel bad for him. 1098 00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:01.940 I know. 1099 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.539 He should have made it a little more elusive. 1100 00:41:04.900 --> 00:41:08.679 Yeah. Great book. I actually read it. It's a phenomenal book. 1101 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:09.030 Ugh. 1102 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:11.489 It

has some critics. No, there's like a wave of 1103 00:41:11.510 --> 00:41:13.989 criticism about it. Yeah. But at any rate, I don't 1104 00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:15.130 know how you're not an addict. 1105 00:41:16.409 --> 00:41:16.710 I know. 1106 00:41:16.889 --> 00:41:19.980 I think that I got to see. So my dad, 1107 00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:22.860 for all the wonderful things that he was and is, 1108 00:41:23.139 --> 00:41:25.650 we don't speak. But he's self-medicated. 1109 00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:30.469 And I just saw between him and my brother's story, 1110 00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:34.849 it took all the sparkly bits away from using. I'm 1111 00:41:34.909 --> 00:41:39.199 surprised alcohol didn't ever become a problem for me. It's 1112 00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:41.079 only just brought me closer to Margot Robbie. 1113 00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:44.420 Yeah. So that's a real asset, really. 1114 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.019 I think that's just by the grace of God or 1115 00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.300 Oprah or the universe. 1116 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.659 Body chemistry, probably. It's literally just probably genetically modified. 1117 00:41:52.780 --> 00:41:53.119 Yeah. 1118 00:41:53.340 --> 00:41:53.849 You don't have it. 1119 00:41:53.860 --> 00:41:56.960 Yeah, because I'll start smoking, and then I'll be like, 1120 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:57.699 I'm good. 1121 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.260 And then I cannot smoke. I do feel like that's rare. 1122 00:42:01.449 --> 00:42:04.170 Yeah, that's Kristen. When I met her, she smoked. And 1123 00:42:04.210 --> 00:42:06.280 then three months went by. And I'm like, wow, I've 1124 00:42:06.300 --> 00:42:09.280 never seen someone so effortlessly quit smoking cigarettes. And she goes, 1125 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:10.980 I haven't quit. And I go, you haven't had a 1126 00:42:10.980 --> 00:42:12.320 cigarette in like three months. She's like, really? 1127 00:42:12.340 --> 00:42:12.840 Isn't that weird? 1128 00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:14.170 And I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 1129 00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:16.179 How could you not? All I would think about when. 1130 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:17.590 I quit was this. Maybe I'm like your daughter because 1131 00:42:17.610 --> 00:42:18.139 I'm like her. 1132 00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:24.010 I don't know. You also start doing piano and vocal 1133 00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:26.989 lessons around the same time, I guess, the bipolar rises 1134 00:42:27.010 --> 00:42:29.650 because you're eight when you start doing all that, right? Yeah. 1135 00:42:29.829 --> 00:42:30.610 Is that a retreat? 1136 00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:33.409 Yeah, music definitely was a place to. 1137 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.000 Find something that was only mine. 1138 00:42:36.019 --> 00:42:39.239 You also can exhibit control. I put my finger here, 1139 00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:39.960 this comes out. 1140 00:42:40.300 --> 00:42:45.679 Songwriting was such a novel. I get to process what's 1141 00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.840 going on in my life through words that no one 1142 00:42:48.900 --> 00:42:53.340 has to hear. I just wanted so badly for my 1143 00:42:53.449 --> 00:42:57.769 family to be okay that they would have never known 1144 00:42:57.809 --> 00:43:01.670 that I wasn't okay. I would have never expressed that 1145 00:43:02.829 --> 00:43:05.929 I was okay. hurting yeah or not okay or i 1146 00:43:05.969 --> 00:43:08.829 didn't know what my favorite color was everything was so 1147 00:43:08.929 --> 00:43:11.949 wrapped up in them yeah there was this one small 1148 00:43:11.989 --> 00:43:14.869 piece that was all mine and that was writing so 1149 00:43:14.909 --> 00:43:18.690 i think that definitely shaped me for sure. 1150 00:43:18.449 --> 00:43:20.739 Yeah this stuff can give you your best. 1151 00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:23.500 Hobbies your trauma yeah yeah so you. 1152 00:43:23.420 --> 00:43:25.780 Can pick up some stuff that you end up loving 1153 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:26.840 for your life. 1154 00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.489 There's the healing That can come from. 1155 00:43:29.570 --> 00:43:31.909 How are you getting validated in a way that would 1156 00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:34.119 make you confident to try to get into Berkeley? 1157 00:43:36.820 --> 00:43:39.420 I don't know that I was. Things got really hairy 1158 00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:43.110 my senior year of high school. There's stories that I 1159 00:43:43.150 --> 00:43:45.289 think one day I'll be able to tell, but that 1160 00:43:45.449 --> 00:43:47.969 don't fully belong to me. So I get nervous about 1161 00:43:48.150 --> 00:43:53.119 sharing them. But our house was bombed because my brother 1162 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.110 was affiliated with a gang and then our dog got shot. 1163 00:43:56.309 --> 00:43:58.030 Thing after thing after thing. 1164 00:43:58.110 --> 00:44:02.329 These are not just things. These are enormous, literally bombs. 1165 00:44:02.409 --> 00:44:07.710 Just literal bombs. Mothoff cocktail to the back of our car. Oh, man. Cortisol. 1166 00:44:07.889 --> 00:44:09.530 And that's got to be another thing. 1167 00:44:10.570 --> 00:44:14.739 My body is ready for trauma. I'm good in a crisis. 1168 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:16.360 You want me on your team. 1169 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:18.340 I'll go further. I get high in a crisis. 1170 00:44:18.969 --> 00:44:20.030 A hundred percent. 1171 00:44:20.050 --> 00:44:23.690 Love it. Have to keep myself from searching it out. 1172 00:44:23.739 --> 00:44:24.519 Starting a crisis. 1173 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:26.559 Or just, I see this shit happening over there. I 1174 00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:28.019 want to run over there. 1175 00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.300 I just want to be involved. 1176 00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.659 It's a little bit of maybe a savior complex of like, 1177 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.630 I'm going to save you from your trauma because I 1178 00:44:35.670 --> 00:44:36.710 know I can handle it. 1179 00:44:36.730 -->

00:44:37.190 Yeah, yeah. 1180 00:44:37.289 --> 00:44:38.510 I have years. 1181 00:44:39.250 --> 00:44:39.590 Training. 1182 00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:40.210 Of training. 1183 00:44:40.309 --> 00:44:40.949 But you're a SEAL. 1184 00:44:41.150 --> 00:44:45.050 My husband's father was diagnosed with kidney cancer this past 1185 00:44:45.110 --> 00:44:48.150 year and I was like, Ready and action. 1186 00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:51.050 Let me be. I'm going to help you guys. 1187 00:44:51.210 --> 00:44:52.949 And of course, it's like, you're going to make the 1188 00:44:52.969 --> 00:44:54.699 kidney cancer. 1189 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.519 I wrote a song that I'm certain is going to 1190 00:44:58.539 --> 00:44:59.989 chase this cancer out of your kidney. 1191 00:45:02.949 --> 00:45:05.849 I've never considered that I get high from it, but 1192 00:45:05.909 --> 00:45:07.429 I think there's ego in it for sure. 1193 00:45:07.570 --> 00:45:09.900 Well, if I could defend this or be more compassionate 1194 00:45:09.940 --> 00:45:14.099 to us, again, the arousal setting got pinned. If your 1195 00:45:14.139 --> 00:45:17.719 Molotov cocktail is fucking blasting off, right? So life can 1196 00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:21.550 be a little agonizingly boring in a way. This is 1197 00:45:21.570 --> 00:45:23.769 what the dopamine seeking is. It's like you can be 1198 00:45:23.869 --> 00:45:27.750 suffering under peaceful, normal conditions, which is not your fault. 1199 00:45:27.869 --> 00:45:30.570 It's your responsibility. You got to not get yourself into shit, but. 1200 00:45:31.190 --> 00:45:34.320 But yeah, I feel very alive. All my senses work great. 1201 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.679 I'm plugged in. And that elevated state is pleasurable and 1202 00:45:38.699 --> 00:45:39.800 a bit euphoric. 1203 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.769 It's probably why I love being on stage. 1204 00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:45.780 My therapist was like, there's an amount of cortisol and 1205 00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:48.500 adrenaline that's released in the body on stage. 1206 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:50.760 That's the same as going to war. 1207 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:51.340 Surely. 1208 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:52.800 Your body doesn't know. 1209 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:56.699 The difference between these fans screaming at you and you're 1210 00:45:56.940 --> 00:45:57.760 fired up. 1211 00:45:57.780 --> 00:45:58.380 Yeah. 1212 00:45:58.619 --> 00:46:02.039 Yeah. Another gear kicks in and you are trained for this. 1213 00:46:02.099 --> 00:46:03.340 So this is like, yeah. 1214 00:46:03.989 --> 00:46:05.409 If people are coming to my show and they want 1215 00:46:05.429 --> 00:46:08.570 to meet me or come backstage, it has to be before. 1216 00:46:08.590 --> 00:46:11.650 Because if it's after, if it's right after, I'm still 1217 00:46:11.710 --> 00:46:12.829 in the adrenaline high. 1218 00:46:13.289 --> 00:46:16.949 But if it's like even 30 minutes after, I crash. 1219 00:46:17.170 --> 00:46:17.590 Yeah. 1220 00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:20.030 Which is not sustained. 1221 00:46:20.130 --> 00:46:21.809 I'm going to have to figure that out for this 1222 00:46:21.869 --> 00:46:23.289 next run that we're planning. 1223 00:46:23.309 --> 00:46:25.070 You're going to take some time after. 1224 00:46:25.190 --> 00:46:25.510 Why? 1225 00:46:25.530 --> 00:46:28.639 You don't know anyone anything. You're allowed to take the 1226 00:46:28.860 --> 00:46:29.980 minute to relax? 1227 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.579 Me staring you in the eyes like, really? 1228 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:33.699 You're like, am I? 1229 00:46:33.820 --> 00:46:34.489 Are you sure? 1230 00:46:34.590 --> 00:46:35.280 Are you positive? 1231 00:46:35.300 --> 00:46:38.489 You're allowed to have rules. First time this is occurring. 1232 00:46:38.530 --> 00:46:40.150 Yeah, they come before. That's it. 1233 00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:43.869 I just got off the road with Benson Boone, who 1234 00:46:44.090 --> 00:46:47.610 was and is the nicest person. 1235 00:46:47.329 --> 00:46:49.190 You'll ever meet in your life. 1236 00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:49.789 Really? 1237 00:46:49.949 --> 00:46:51.610 Yeah, if you ever get the chance to have him. 1238 00:46:51.650 --> 00:46:53.929 He's a human sparkler, right? Connect us. We would love 1239 00:46:53.949 --> 00:46:55.670 to have him on. I want to do a backflip 1240 00:46:55.730 --> 00:46:59.059 off this table. And he would He has a beautiful physique. 1241 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:01.639 He's very handsome. 1242 00:47:01.940 --> 00:47:04.500 Even when you're not ovulating. 1243 00:47:04.579 --> 00:47:07.139 Even when you're not ovulating, he's handsome. 1244 00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:09.119 He's luteal phase resistant. 1245 00:47:09.429 --> 00:47:10.730 I was in. 1246 00:47:10.690 --> 00:47:12.590 My luteal phase both times. So I was on the 1247 00:47:12.610 --> 00:47:15.510 road with him for two weeks in the luteal phase. 1248 00:47:15.969 --> 00:47:18.530 Then I got off the road, and then I, you know, 1249 00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:21.730 follicular ovulating, and I was like, man, I was on 1250 00:47:21.769 --> 00:47:23.150 tour with a handsome guy. 1251 00:47:23.210 --> 00:47:23.889 Yeah. 1252 00:47:24.409 --> 00:47:27.110 And then we had one last show of the tour. 1253 00:47:27.369 --> 00:47:29.530 He had to cancel a show. And so I came 1254 00:47:29.610 --> 00:47:32.329 in for the remake of that one. I was back 1255 00:47:32.429 --> 00:47:34.840 on my luteal. So I couldn't appreciate. 1256 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:35.940 Wow. 1257 00:47:36.019 --> 00:47:38.280 Us men have no clue. We're like, boy, there was 1258 00:47:38.300 --> 00:47:40.619 no rhythm. I guess my hair looked bad that day. 1259 00:47:40.659 --> 00:47:43.059 When you're a young man, you have no fucking awareness 1260 00:47:43.500 --> 00:47:45.699 of that, the luteal phase. And you're just like, wait, 1261 00:47:45.739 --> 00:47:47.369 why was... She was giving me a lot of rhythm 1262 00:47:47.389 -->

00:47:50.199 last time I saw her. And now... What happened? Did 1263 00:47:50.260 --> 00:47:52.320 I get disfigured? What has happened? 1264 00:47:52.570 --> 00:47:53.449 That is so funny. 1265 00:47:53.469 --> 00:47:54.170 We have no clue. 1266 00:47:54.190 --> 00:47:55.530 Yeah, that's really tough. 1267 00:47:55.570 --> 00:47:56.690 You have so much compassion. 1268 00:47:56.710 --> 00:47:58.329 I am so, so sorry for you guys. 1269 00:47:59.190 --> 00:48:02.530 But so before he goes on stage, he prays. I 1270 00:48:02.610 --> 00:48:03.239 can't speak for him. 1271 00:48:03.250 --> 00:48:06.179 I don't know if he's so religious anymore because he 1272 00:48:06.219 --> 00:48:09.519 came backstage and he invited me to like the prayer circle. 1273 00:48:09.619 --> 00:48:09.880 Oh, fun. 1274 00:48:10.289 --> 00:48:14.079 First we dance. Everyone's twerking. And then we huddle up 1275 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:14.800 and we pray. 1276 00:48:15.179 --> 00:48:20.590 And it was the most sweet, kind of transformative, grounding thing. 1277 00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:22.630 Ritual. And I thought, I think I'm going to start 1278 00:48:22.690 --> 00:48:24.030 praying before I go on stage. 1279 00:48:24.050 --> 00:48:27.329 Sure. I do my mantra. Really cool. So my prayer 1280 00:48:27.389 --> 00:48:29.269 is the equivalent. I meditate. 1281 00:48:29.329 --> 00:48:30.349 He's not allowed to tell us. 1282 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.840 I do transcendental meditation. But you have a mantra that's 1283 00:48:32.860 --> 00:48:35.000 given to you. And that's what you say over and 1284 00:48:35.019 --> 00:48:36.360 over again in your head while you're meditating. 1285 00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:38.159 I don't want you to tell me if you don't 1286 00:48:38.179 --> 00:48:39.320 want to tell me, obviously. 1287 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:40.320 But why? 1288 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:41.780 Don't you share it. 1289 00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:43.840 I have no idea, but when it was given to me, 1290 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.039 I was instructed to not ever tell anyone what my 1291 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:47.659 mantra is. 1292 00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:48.860 By someone? 1293 00:48:48.900 --> 00:48:51.719 By the instructor of Transcendental Meditation. 1294 00:48:51.739 --> 00:48:53.789 It's not like a sentence. It's like a. 1295 00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:56.400 It's a word that makes no sense to me. It's 1296 00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:57.059 a sound. 1297 00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:58.699 It's like clitia or something. 1298 00:48:58.969 --> 00:49:01.179 What if I got it? Clitia? 1299 00:49:01.219 --> 00:49:04.760 You're quite far off, but yes. If anyone would get it, 1300 00:49:04.789 --> 00:49:05.289 it would be you. 1301 00:49:06.329 --> 00:49:07.030 Clitia? 1302 00:49:07.050 --> 00:49:08.130 What if it's clitia? 1303 00:49:08.150 --> 00:49:10.349 Should we bore her with our story? Mm hmm. 1304 00:49:10.510 --> 00:49:10.829 You go. 1305 00:49:11.110 --> 00:49:14.719 I'm traveling and then I'm talking

to Monica. She goes like, 1306 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.059 I've been being so weird in my apartment. I'm like, 1307 00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:19.969 what's going on? She's like, I'm just fucking singing some bizarre. 1308 00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:22.820 song out loud. And I go, sing it to me. 1309 00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:25.239 She's like, no, I'm not going to sing it to you. Whatever. 1310 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.210 We finish up our business. I hang up. I call 1311 00:49:28.250 --> 00:49:31.559 her back in like two minutes. And I said, Yeah. 1312 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:32.519 Is this the song? 1313 00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:33.960 I think. What? 1314 00:49:33.980 --> 00:49:36.119 I said the words are. Didn't I say the words? 1315 00:49:36.260 --> 00:49:39.349 Oh, you said I have made a song around xanthan gum. Yeah. 1316 00:49:39.469 --> 00:49:40.869 Around the word xanthan gum. 1317 00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:43.500 And I go, sing it to me. And she's like, no, 1318 00:49:43.539 --> 00:49:45.389 I'm not going to do that. I hang up. And 1319 00:49:45.409 --> 00:49:46.690 all of a sudden, it occurs to me. I call 1320 00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:50.789 her back. And when she answers, I go, xanthan gum. Da-da-da-da-da-da, 1321 00:49:50.829 --> 00:49:51.750 xanthan gum. 1322 00:49:51.789 --> 00:49:52.989 And she goes, ah! 1323 00:49:53.150 --> 00:49:55.809 And she screams so loud. It was so weird. And 1324 00:49:55.829 --> 00:50:00.320 then got paranoid. She's like, you installed my TV. Can you, like, hear? 1325 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:00.590 Did you? 1326 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:01.739 Yeah, I was like, did you do something with my 1327 00:50:01.820 --> 00:50:04.460 Sonos where you could hear me in my apartment? 1328 00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:08.039 So you're just that connected now after all these years. 1329 00:50:08.059 --> 00:50:09.059 I mean, it's a lot. 1330 00:50:09.099 --> 00:50:09.860 How long ago did this happen? 1331 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:10.480 It was a very spidey. 1332 00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:13.809 Had you been working together for a while? 1333 00:50:14.130 --> 00:50:17.110 It was wild. I think, you know, circling back to 1334 00:50:17.130 --> 00:50:18.519 what you said, I was going to say it earlier, 1335 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.519 but I think we've known each other in another life. 1336 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:22.119 Yeah. 1337 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.300 Oh, I can totally. 1338 00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:26.380 If I believed in other lives, I would, I would co-sign. 1339 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.920 Like there's just like, oh yeah, I've known this person 1340 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.059 for way longer than I've actually known him. 1341 00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.019 Yes. What is that? 1342 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:36.780 And then sometimes I'm like, ooh, I wonder who you'll 1343 00:50:36.820 --> 00:50:37.639 be next time. 1344 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:39.920 I like it in theory. 1345 00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.900 I think we all have some things that

are inexplicable. 1346 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:46.719 And I think some explanations for people seem most salient. 1347 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.000 Yours happens to be like, for you, that just really resonates. Like, yeah, 1348 00:50:50.059 --> 00:50:52.309 I feel like I've been here before and Again, our 1349 00:50:52.349 --> 00:50:55.369 friend Phineas. Every time I leave him, I'm like, no, 1350 00:50:55.389 --> 00:50:58.090 he's 51. He's definitely my age, or he might even 1351 00:50:58.110 --> 00:50:58.289 be 55. 1352 00:50:58.289 --> 00:50:59.829 If past lives. 1353 00:50:59.590 --> 00:51:04.650 Is real, this is his 70th time. 1354 00:51:05.070 --> 00:51:07.230 It's his dad's 80th round. 1355 00:51:08.369 --> 00:51:12.269 That's the most mature person I've ever met. 1356 00:51:12.670 --> 00:51:14.030 Okay, but back to Berkeley. 1357 00:51:14.670 --> 00:51:14.989 Oh, yeah. 1358 00:51:15.150 --> 00:51:17.820 How does one get into Berkeley? You submit, I presume? 1359 00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:19.760 I auditioned. You have to audition. 1360 00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:21.539 You fly to Boston and audition? 1361 00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:23.599 I think I drove to San Francisco. 1362 00:51:23.619 --> 00:51:23.920 Okay. 1363 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.199 They have teachers that come to different cities. 1364 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.000 Did my audition. I think I sang an original song. 1365 00:51:29.019 --> 00:51:31.670 So I was like, I'm a singer and I'm a songwriter. 1366 00:51:31.690 --> 00:51:33.710 And then I sang a Nora Jones. 1367 00:51:33.889 --> 00:51:35.190 I sang I Don't Know Why. 1368 00:51:35.210 --> 00:51:38.010 One of my favorites of all time. She sang for 1369 00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:38.650 us as well. 1370 00:51:38.869 --> 00:51:39.269 She did. 1371 00:51:39.630 --> 00:51:40.230 Highlighted. 1372 00:51:40.329 --> 00:51:41.489 Wait, you've had her on? 1373 00:51:41.510 --> 00:51:42.090 Yeah. 1374 00:51:42.190 --> 00:51:42.869 Early days. 1375 00:51:43.070 --> 00:51:46.170 Yeah, I'm definitely going to go listen to that after this. 1376 00:51:46.329 --> 00:51:46.829 I love her. 1377 00:51:47.050 --> 00:51:48.329 And she came and sang Christmas Jingle. 1378 00:51:48.409 --> 00:51:48.909 Oh, that's right. 1379 00:51:49.050 --> 00:51:51.989 I got a partial scholarship from that audition, and I 1380 00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:53.369 might have to owe that to her. 1381 00:51:53.389 --> 00:51:57.469 I think you owe it to yourself, but yeah. 1382 00:51:57.489 --> 00:52:00.429 Now, when you go to Boston, A, this is an 1383 00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:04.389 enormous cultural shift between San Jose and Boston. You also 1384 00:52:04.409 --> 00:52:07.949 have the weather. You're also now not around The chaos. 1385 00:52:08.210 --> 00:52:11.190 Is the experience dreamy? How do you change in those 1386 00:52:11.289 --> 00:52:12.110 four years? 1387 00:52:12.869 --> 00:52:16.280 I think it was the most rapid changing of my 1388 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.179 entire

life. I don't know that I've experienced that level 1389 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.519 of zhuzh since then. 1390 00:52:22.539 --> 00:52:24.019 Yeah, before or since. 1391 00:52:24.619 --> 00:52:26.239 Yeah, like, so who would you say you entered as 1392 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:27.579 and then who did you leave as? 1393 00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:36.070 I entered as a very scared, sad, frightened, insecure person. 1394 00:52:36.659 --> 00:52:39.840 Tiny person. I was really terrified. 1395 00:52:39.860 --> 00:52:45.570 I had a vocal coach who just was begging me 1396 00:52:45.650 --> 00:52:49.570 to find pride in my voice and that I could 1397 00:52:49.929 --> 00:52:53.500 do this. And it's funny because she came to a 1398 00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.829 show when I was headlining And she's like, look at 1399 00:52:56.909 --> 00:52:57.949 you with. 1400 00:52:57.829 --> 00:53:00.699 All that confidence. She saw me in probably my most 1401 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:04.900 like naked mole rat scared state. I love when she 1402 00:53:04.940 --> 00:53:07.900 comes to shows because it's like such a callback to that. 1403 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:12.059 I left Berkeley. I moved to Nashville for songwriting. 1404 00:53:12.099 --> 00:53:15.110 That first year in Nashville was still a little insecure. 1405 00:53:15.539 --> 00:53:18.420 One of my questions is why Nashville coming out of 1406 00:53:18.460 --> 00:53:21.099 Berkeley when you could also probably go to L.A. 1407 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.679 Or New York. All my friends were going to New 1408 00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:24.340 York or L.A. 1409 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:28.880 I knew that starting my career at Ground Zero in 1410 00:53:28.940 --> 00:53:32.679 those cities was going to eat me alive. Nashville at 1411 00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.889 that time, I still think to an effect still is 1412 00:53:36.949 --> 00:53:40.570 this way. It's a reputation town like you make enough 1413 00:53:40.630 --> 00:53:43.389 friends there. You show people that you're talented. 1414 00:53:43.429 --> 00:53:44.650 You're a good hang. 1415 00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:44.750 Yeah. 1416 00:53:44.909 --> 00:53:47.489 You just got to be a good hang in Nashville. 1417 00:53:47.550 --> 00:53:50.389 I also think, would you agree, Nashville has a journeyman 1418 00:53:50.780 --> 00:53:52.500 structure in the old sense. 1419 00:53:52.619 --> 00:53:53.829 Earn your stripes kind of a. 1420 00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:57.219 You learn your craft. There are rungs of ladders you 1421 00:53:57.260 --> 00:54:00.280 can apply for and move up. Whereas here, it's like, 1422 00:54:00.380 --> 00:54:03.219 I don't know, be nothing and then have a viral 1423 00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:05.639 hit and be huge. I don't know what the intermediate 1424 00:54:05.699 --> 00:54:06.639 steps are here. 1425 00:54:06.900 --> 00:54:07.039 Yeah. 1426 00:54:07.059 --> 00:54:08.820 Whereas there, there's a little bit more of a journeyman. 1427 00:54:09.050 --> 00:54:11.909 I would not recommend... Go straight to L.A. 1428 00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:16.510 If you're a dreamer and you have ambitions of being anything. 1429 00:54:16.630 --> 00:54:17.289 It's hard. 1430 00:54:17.570 --> 00:54:21.329 L.A., for me, it started to warp, at least when 1431 00:54:21.469 --> 00:54:23.949 I was here. I've lived here for seven years and 1432 00:54:24.110 --> 00:54:26.150 it started to warp. I probably was not in the 1433 00:54:26.190 --> 00:54:29.050 right circles at the right time, but my story of 1434 00:54:29.090 --> 00:54:31.829 why I was doing it. Because I was around people 1435 00:54:31.869 --> 00:54:34.590 that were doing it for the wrong reasons. I just 1436 00:54:34.630 --> 00:54:38.309 saw Sally Fields did a little quick interview on the 1437 00:54:38.349 --> 00:54:40.550 red carpet. And she was like, if you want to 1438 00:54:40.590 --> 00:54:44.170 be an actor to be rich and famous, get the 1439 00:54:44.230 --> 00:54:46.809 hell out of here. That can't be the point because 1440 00:54:46.829 --> 00:54:50.389 you're going to get knocked down too many times and 1441 00:54:50.550 --> 00:54:52.639 you're not going to get back up. And I think 1442 00:54:52.739 --> 00:54:55.820 my why of why I wanted to be a music 1443 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.780 artist and a songwriter. 1444 00:54:57.500 --> 00:54:59.980 Started to get a little bit warped. Yeah. 1445 00:55:00.260 --> 00:55:03.699 More about the result and less about the experience or process. 1446 00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:04.280 Yeah. 1447 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:05.579 And so I've kind of come back. 1448 00:55:05.699 --> 00:55:08.800 Well, to Sally's point, anything short of rich and famous, 1449 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.320 then nothing's enjoyable. Whereas if you love acting and you're 1450 00:55:12.340 --> 00:55:14.010 in a play, like, look, I was at the Groundlings 1451 00:55:14.050 --> 00:55:16.429 performing for free. I couldn't have been happier, right? Like, 1452 00:55:16.489 --> 00:55:18.329 I was doing a show every Sunday, and I was like, oh, 1453 00:55:18.530 --> 00:55:22.250 I love this. If the only result you're interested in 1454 00:55:22.269 --> 00:55:24.460 is Rich and Famous, like, then nothing can be enjoyed 1455 00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:25.199 until Rich and Famous. 1456 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:28.360 And then that's not enjoyable, unfortunately, either. 1457 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.280 That used to not be cool. Like, when I was 1458 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:35.289 a kid, wanting to be rich and famous wasn't... was gross. 1459 00:55:35.690 --> 00:55:37.690 You had to pretend you didn't want that. 1460 00:55:38.030 --> 00:55:38.949 Yeah, if you. 1461 00:55:38.829 --> 00:55:41.590 Wanted that, you had to pretend you were a hipster 1462 00:55:41.610 --> 00:55:44.050 or whatever. Tell me if you think I'm wrong, but 1463 00:55:44.090 --> 00:55:47.510 I feel like I see more kids now interested in, 1464 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.579 I want to be an influencer, I want to

be 1465 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.460 a movie star, I want to be XYZ, to be 1466 00:55:52.579 --> 00:55:53.480 rich and famous. 1467 00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:55.739 Where did we lose the plot in the last. 1468 00:55:56.329 --> 00:55:59.889 Do I sound like an old fucking lady right now? 1469 00:56:00.070 --> 00:56:02.670 You sound like the oldest lady we've ever interviewed. 1470 00:56:02.690 --> 00:56:05.889 I sound like an old lady. 1471 00:56:05.909 --> 00:56:07.389 No, I think you're absolutely right. 1472 00:56:07.449 --> 00:56:09.179 Well, look, no. What I'll push back on is, like, 1473 00:56:09.460 --> 00:56:12.219 everyone has always wanted to be rich and famous. Period. 1474 00:56:12.500 --> 00:56:13.139 Throughout time. 1475 00:56:13.340 --> 00:56:17.119 I think that might be your experience. And you might 1476 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:17.900 be projecting that. 1477 00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.280 I'm just saying, no kid in their hometown, when they 1478 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:26.489 imagine being... Margot Robbie or Timothee Chalamet is not thinking, yes, 1479 00:56:26.530 --> 00:56:29.829 sign me up. That looks fun. But I think what's 1480 00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:33.260 happened is we have had a shift in the industry, 1481 00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:34.860 which is the only way to get that in the 1482 00:56:34.900 --> 00:56:37.480 past was to have become a really good actor or 1483 00:56:37.500 --> 00:56:40.460 a really good singer. But then we had, and I 1484 00:56:40.500 --> 00:56:43.059 love her, so this is no shade, but then we 1485 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.570 had like the Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian phenomenon, and these 1486 00:56:46.610 --> 00:56:49.869 people became billionaires. So now there was a new avenue 1487 00:56:49.909 --> 00:56:52.530 to being rich and famous that didn't require a ton 1488 00:56:52.550 --> 00:56:55.389 of training as an actor or a singer. And that's fine. 1489 00:56:55.409 --> 00:56:57.309 So I don't fault anyone's like everyone wanted to be 1490 00:56:57.349 --> 00:56:59.389 rich and famous, but the hurdle to become that was 1491 00:56:59.650 --> 00:57:03.449 pretty significant. And there are avenues now to be rich 1492 00:57:03.489 --> 00:57:07.639 and famous that don't require to me a terribly objective skillset. 1493 00:57:07.780 --> 00:57:08.119 Yeah. 1494 00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:10.059 Like if you're hot and you look like you're having 1495 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:12.679 a great time everywhere you go, that could be valuable. 1496 00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:14.119 And by the way, good for them. 1497 00:57:14.139 --> 00:57:15.659 Maybe it's good for them. 1498 00:57:16.099 --> 00:57:17.619 I got no beef with that at all. 1499 00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:19.159 That's so interesting. 1500 00:57:19.460 --> 00:57:21.619 Rich and famous, though, I think when you're young and 1501 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.719 you're seeing, you know, whatever. 1502 00:57:23.739 --> 00:57:24.860 Kimmy Shelley? 1503 00:57:25.019 --> 00:57:26.929 Yeah, on the cover, and you're like, oh, my God. 1504 00:57:26.980 --> 00:57:28.280 It seems so glamorous. 1505 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:30.519 It seems so glamorous, but really what's under it is, like, 1506 00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:34.000 everyone loves them. I want to be a person that 1507 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:35.719 everyone loves. 1508 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:36.719 I want to be enough. 1509 00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.320 And that's what rich and famous is getting conflated with. 1510 00:57:40.340 --> 00:57:40.800 Is a proxy for. 1511 00:57:40.869 --> 00:57:41.670 Yes, exactly. 1512 00:57:41.690 --> 00:57:44.630 But it's really, like, everyone in the whole world loves 1513 00:57:44.670 --> 00:57:45.750 this person, and I want that. 1514 00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:49.429 And you're definitely naive about what that is because then 1515 00:57:49.449 --> 00:57:52.010 you're Bieber at the wedding and you know everyone's thinking 1516 00:57:52.050 --> 00:57:53.590 about you and that's very uncomfortable. 1517 00:57:53.670 --> 00:57:55.590 Well, that's crushing into a new. 1518 00:57:55.610 --> 00:57:58.110 That's icon status. I always wanted to. 1519 00:57:57.909 --> 00:58:02.059 Be as successful as Bon Iver. Justin Burnham. Oh, my God. 1520 00:58:02.219 --> 00:58:02.719 He's incredible. 1521 00:58:02.739 --> 00:58:04.960 He can go to a Trader Joe's, but he can 1522 00:58:05.019 --> 00:58:06.679 also sell out an arena. 1523 00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:08.980 And get a great table at a restaurant. There are 1524 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:09.739 things you want. 1525 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:12.039 Skip the line. So I was a competitive gymnast for 1526 00:58:12.099 --> 00:58:12.519 eight years. 1527 00:58:12.619 --> 00:58:13.059 Oh, wow. 1528 00:58:13.099 --> 00:58:13.860 When I was a kid. 1529 00:58:14.019 --> 00:58:14.340 Oh, wow. 1530 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.010 Homeschooled for it. Was going to the Olympics. Saw the Olympics. 1531 00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:19.340 Wanted to go to the Olympics. 1532 00:58:19.389 --> 00:58:19.570 Yeah. 1533 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.829 But it was from such a place of I want 1534 00:58:22.849 --> 00:58:23.730 to be great. 1535 00:58:24.070 --> 00:58:24.409 Yes. 1536 00:58:24.550 --> 00:58:27.070 And I want to be important. 1537 00:58:27.309 --> 00:58:28.510 Are you watching Lanterns? 1538 00:58:29.150 --> 00:58:29.409 No. 1539 00:58:29.650 --> 00:58:32.769 Okay, well, it's great. But there's something that happens. It's 1540 00:58:32.809 --> 00:58:34.210 not a small thing. 1541 00:58:34.250 --> 00:58:37.110 Sounds like it's going to be. 1542 00:58:37.170 --> 00:58:38.050 Beep. 1543 00:58:38.190 --> 00:58:41.179 There's a eulogy that's being given. It's not a small thing. 1544 00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:42.059 I love a eulogy. 1545 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.119 It's a eulogy that's being given that's written by the 1546 00:58:44.139 --> 00:58:46.539 person who's died. They've pre-written it, okay? 1547 00:58:46.559 -->

00:58:47.420 Okay, lovely. 1548 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:47.880 Whoa. 1549 00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:48.219 Yes. 1550 00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:52.579 And the last line is, I hope I mattered. And, yeah, 1551 00:58:52.619 --> 00:58:56.030 I was watching my friend. We were both like, oof. It, like, really. 1552 00:58:56.579 --> 00:58:57.380 distills it down. 1553 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.980 It's all we want. We just want to matter. 1554 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:02.699 It's just who are you going to matter to? Do 1555 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:05.289 you need to matter like Dolly mattered or do you 1556 00:59:05.329 --> 00:59:06.869 want to matter to your kids? 1557 00:59:07.190 --> 00:59:09.809 My therapist phrased it another way, which is very similar, 1558 00:59:09.849 --> 00:59:14.119 but he's like, do you think you exist? I mean, 1559 00:59:14.179 --> 00:59:17.739 it's weirdly that deep. Like if I'm not observed and 1560 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.599 people aren't witnessing it, do I exist? You have this. 1561 00:59:21.449 --> 00:59:23.989 deep desire to know you exist. You're not even sure 1562 00:59:24.030 --> 00:59:26.960 you exist. If you see, if you feel invisible, you're 1563 00:59:27.019 --> 00:59:29.099 in eighth grade and no one says hi to you 1564 00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.719 all day long. It can feel like you don't exist. 1565 00:59:32.860 --> 00:59:34.320 And that's heartbreaking. 1566 00:59:34.500 --> 00:59:37.360 I think that's the whole reason why we want to 1567 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.230 find love in life. Cause you want someone to be 1568 00:59:40.269 --> 00:59:41.429 a witness. 1569 00:59:41.210 --> 00:59:42.329 To your life. 1570 00:59:42.409 --> 00:59:45.269 It's a little selfish. I buy into that fully. 1571 00:59:45.429 --> 00:59:47.090 They help you know you exist. 1572 00:59:47.389 --> 00:59:47.630 Yeah. 1573 00:59:47.750 --> 00:59:49.369 I want to be on the porch forever. 1574 00:59:49.630 --> 00:59:52.190 Wrinkled up with my husband and I want him to 1575 00:59:52.289 --> 00:59:56.070 know what I looked like now and what I sounded 1576 00:59:56.130 --> 01:00:00.300 like and the changes I was feeling and to have 1577 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:02.150 experienced all of it. 1578 01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.039 You're telling a story you're creating a story the story 1579 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.360 is your life if no one reads that book you 1580 01:00:07.380 --> 01:00:08.260 know it's a little bit. 1581 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.880 Heartbreaking yeah that's why I love I have a fascination 1582 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.460 with cemeteries okay. 1583 01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.059 You performed at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery that must. 1584 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:19.400 Have been a joy yeah very cool it's cool to 1585 01:00:19.420 --> 01:00:22.199 see like a sea of heads and then a sea 1586 01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:25.239 of tombstones that was a really why do. 1587 01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:27.519 You like them just because it's a reminder of life 1588 01:00:27.659 --> 01:00:28.360 I just. 1589 01:00:28.179 --> 01:00:31.409 Like to feel small in I think a healthy way 1590 01:00:31.429 --> 01:00:34.469 in a humility way yeah like the ocean I think 1591 01:00:34.510 --> 01:00:38.849 we make ourselves so grand it's funny because we hold 1592 01:00:38.949 --> 01:00:42.909 multitudes we're like I'm small but I'm important but I 1593 01:00:43.090 --> 01:00:48.489 love looking at a tombstone that's like 17, 80. 1594 01:00:47.579 --> 01:00:55.280 To 18, whatever. And I just imagine the adventures that 1595 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:59.360 they had and the laughs that they had. And were 1596 01:00:59.380 --> 01:01:02.699 they funny? Were they talented? Did they have kids? Were 1597 01:01:06.010 --> 01:01:09.010 And you create this little life, and their story's over. 1598 01:01:09.090 --> 01:01:12.070 It's done. And that's going to be me. Yeah, exactly. 1599 01:01:12.090 --> 01:01:13.429 It's going to be me tomorrow. 1600 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:14.360 I don't like that. 1601 01:01:14.389 --> 01:01:15.420 Okay, not tomorrow. 1602 01:01:15.460 --> 01:01:16.320 But I know what you mean. 1603 01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:20.219 Whether it's 30 years or 130, it's short. 1604 01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:20.800 It is. 1605 01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:27.909 Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. 1606 01:01:27.949 --> 01:01:33.110 Armchair Expert. 1607 01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:39.179 We would sometimes drive to Toronto from Detroit, my family, 1608 01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:41.159 my mom and my brother and my sister. I would 1609 01:01:41.179 --> 01:01:44.559 see these apartment buildings. There's so many windows. I'd be 1610 01:01:44.579 --> 01:01:46.320 in the backseat of my mom's Pinto and I go, 1611 01:01:46.980 --> 01:01:50.579 it's almost incomprehensible. Every one of those windows has a 1612 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:52.860 me in it that feels very important. 1613 01:01:53.059 --> 01:01:53.420 Yeah. 1614 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:55.659 And then a bunch of other, my mom's in there, 1615 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:57.239 my brother's in there. It's overwhelming. 1616 01:01:57.949 --> 01:01:58.769 It's overwhelming. 1617 01:01:58.789 --> 01:01:59.349 It's overwhelming. 1618 01:01:59.369 --> 01:02:02.079 We're so small. But we really don't think about it. 1619 01:02:02.230 --> 01:02:04.510 We're thinking about it right now because we're lucky enough 1620 01:02:04.530 --> 01:02:05.670 to have this conversation. 1621 01:02:05.989 --> 01:02:08.030 But we're going to leave here in an hour from now. 1622 01:02:08.050 --> 01:02:10.510 We're going to forget that there's a bunch of people 1623 01:02:10.570 --> 01:02:11.380 in those windows. 1624 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.599 Yeah, yeah. And they all are having important lives. And 1625 01:02:14.619 --> 01:02:16.380 they're the star of it. Okay. 1626 01:02:16.739 --> 01:02:18.780 Wow. We're really doing it. 1627 01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:19.440 I love this. 1628

01:02:20.420 --> 01:02:22.889 I'm having a nice time. Oh, good. 1629 01:02:22.909 --> 01:02:23.909 We try to provide one. 1630 01:02:23.929 --> 01:02:24.489 Yeah. 1631 01:02:24.530 --> 01:02:25.070 We aim to. 1632 01:02:25.150 --> 01:02:26.849 This has been like a real port in the storm. 1633 01:02:26.869 --> 01:02:30.519 This week has been fucking insane. And then the music 1634 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.000 video of it all, like I said, my nervous systems. 1635 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.280 But seeing this on my calendar has brought me so 1636 01:02:36.300 --> 01:02:36.679 much joy. 1637 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:38.199 Oh, wonderful. 1638 01:02:38.380 --> 01:02:39.159 I knew it would be nice. 1639 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.070 I have a question about the financials of when you 1640 01:02:42.110 --> 01:02:44.789 moved to Nashville and you start, you're doing a couple 1641 01:02:44.829 --> 01:02:47.150 different things that I assume are paying the bills, which 1642 01:02:47.210 --> 01:02:50.409 is you're starting to sing on other people's stuff. And 1643 01:02:50.429 --> 01:02:52.309 then you're also writing, like you write a song with 1644 01:02:52.329 --> 01:02:53.030 Demi Lovato. 1645 01:02:53.230 --> 01:02:53.630 For her. 1646 01:02:54.050 --> 01:02:57.510 In the acting world, we know it's like if you 1647 01:02:57.530 --> 01:03:00.789 get one national commercial this year. You'll be okay. You're 1648 01:03:00.829 --> 01:03:02.710 going to be able to make your rent. We know 1649 01:03:02.789 --> 01:03:05.179 what one needs to do to survive here, but how 1650 01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:08.900 does one cobble together and which things buy you more time, basically? 1651 01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:11.219 When you write that song for Demi Lovato, do you 1652 01:03:11.260 --> 01:03:13.719 go like, oh, okay, I have this chunk of safety? 1653 01:03:14.219 --> 01:03:16.760 You're trying to get a publishing deal. As a writer, 1654 01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:21.989 that's your first stop, your goal. I was making coffees. 1655 01:03:22.579 --> 01:03:26.300 Barista. And I was in every writing room that would 1656 01:03:26.340 --> 01:03:29.090 take me. I was in like two sessions a day 1657 01:03:29.449 --> 01:03:31.809 for months at a time and then would work at night. 1658 01:03:31.929 --> 01:03:34.389 And were you learning a ton in those? Or were 1659 01:03:34.429 --> 01:03:36.590 you too distracted trying to prove yourself? 1660 01:03:36.670 --> 01:03:38.949 Boot camp. I was still insecure. 1661 01:03:38.989 --> 01:03:41.980 Well, no, I was insecure in trying to prove myself. 1662 01:03:42.059 --> 01:03:42.380 Yes. 1663 01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:46.230 Yeah, sure. I would be. I'm asking because I would 1664 01:03:46.250 --> 01:03:48.449 have missed a lot of lessons trying to prove to 1665 01:03:48.469 --> 01:03:49.989 them I deserve to be there, even though I didn't 1666 01:03:50.010 --> 01:03:50.409 think I did. 1667 01:03:50.429 --> 01:03:53.050 Yeah, trying to, like,

come up with an amazing idea. Yeah. 1668 01:03:53.409 --> 01:03:56.630 Nashville, more so than L.A., at least at the time, 1669 01:03:57.969 --> 01:03:59.889 they want to teach you. 1670 01:04:00.130 --> 01:04:01.409 You're in writing rooms. 1671 01:04:01.260 --> 01:04:05.579 With people who are very yes and. So you'll say 1672 01:04:05.619 --> 01:04:08.079 an idea and then they'll piggyback off you. That's why 1673 01:04:08.139 --> 01:04:12.199 I loved writing with Phineas because he is such a 1674 01:04:12.300 --> 01:04:13.179 yes and person. 1675 01:04:14.170 --> 01:04:23.489 I've had the pitfall of being a But so, you know, because. 1676 01:04:23.329 --> 01:04:25.170 I don't know if that's good enough or I'll put 1677 01:04:25.190 --> 01:04:27.349 a period at the end of something. So I definitely 1678 01:04:27.369 --> 01:04:30.170 was learning a lot from those Nashville writers. I had 1679 01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:33.260 no business being in some of those rooms. And honestly, 1680 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:35.539 I only got in them because I was a good hang. 1681 01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.320 You're going to like this girl. She's, you know, fun 1682 01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:41.980 to be around, fun or whatever. That got me further 1683 01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.960 than my talent did. And then the talent crossed over to. 1684 01:04:44.940 --> 01:04:45.940 The next thing. 1685 01:04:46.500 --> 01:04:48.440 But yeah, so the financials were tricky for a bit. 1686 01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:56.139 I signed my first record deal. And publishing deal 2019, 18. 1687 01:04:56.139 --> 01:04:58.099 And then I was able to just do that. 1688 01:04:58.340 --> 01:05:00.900 And then the progression is you put out like some 1689 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.019 singles and then you put out an EP with four 1690 01:05:03.059 --> 01:05:05.130 songs and then you put out a second EP. Finally, 1691 01:05:05.150 --> 01:05:08.469 then you do a full studio album. 1692 01:05:08.530 --> 01:05:08.889 Yeah. 1693 01:05:09.550 --> 01:05:12.829 And the first one was of the first three, because 1694 01:05:12.849 --> 01:05:14.170 now your fourth one's about to come out. 1695 01:05:14.659 --> 01:05:15.559 October 16th. 1696 01:05:15.659 --> 01:05:15.840 Yes. 1697 01:05:15.860 --> 01:05:17.380 It's like tomorrow. I'm so excited. 1698 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:18.340 Yeah, it's so exciting. 1699 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:21.980 The first one, I would imagine you're pumped, right? The 1700 01:05:22.019 --> 01:05:24.519 first one probably shockingly does well for you. 1701 01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:25.440 Yeah. 1702 01:05:25.739 --> 01:05:28.219 Everyone says you write your first album your whole life. 1703 01:05:28.579 --> 01:05:29.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1704 01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:30.780 It's all leading up to that one. 1705 01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.239 Yes. You have your entire life to draw from. 1706 01:05:33.260 --> 01:05:35.250 And then you have no idea what to fucking write 1707 01:05:35.269 --> 01:05:35.969 about after that. 1708 01:05:36.030 --> 01:05:38.550 Second season of a show is similar. It's like, ooh, 1709 01:05:38.610 --> 01:05:39.130 now what? 1710 01:05:39.369 --> 01:05:39.889 Yeah. 1711 01:05:39.909 --> 01:05:40.329 Green light. 1712 01:05:40.369 --> 01:05:40.650 Yeah. 1713 01:05:41.530 --> 01:05:44.909 So did you spin out when it came time like, OK, well, 1714 01:05:44.989 --> 01:05:45.889 let's follow it up? 1715 01:05:46.289 --> 01:05:46.489 Yeah. 1716 01:05:46.510 --> 01:05:47.510 Is that so stressful? 1717 01:05:47.829 --> 01:05:50.289 I think, man, and I'm talking about him way too much. 1718 01:05:50.489 --> 01:05:52.110 He really is such a big part of my life. 1719 01:05:52.170 --> 01:05:54.550 But Phineas was on Till Forever Falls Apart, which was 1720 01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:57.280 on that album. And that was a part of I 1721 01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.159 got a follow up moral of the story with a 1722 01:06:00.260 --> 01:06:04.000 great song. Wrote that, sent it to him, said, do 1723 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:05.239 you want to sing on this? 1724 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:06.880 And that's the song you guys played at the wedding. 1725 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:07.840 That's so good. 1726 01:06:07.860 --> 01:06:08.699 That's so awesome. 1727 01:06:08.940 --> 01:06:10.039 It's really special. 1728 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.369 Also, I remember being a kid when I first started 1729 01:06:13.989 --> 01:06:19.230 writing and dreaming of a duet. Wouldn't it feel amazing 1730 01:06:19.269 --> 01:06:22.440 to be on stage with someone else? 1731 01:06:22.659 --> 01:06:22.880 Yeah. 1732 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.460 And we're having this magical movie. You know, I'm picturing 1733 01:06:26.500 --> 01:06:27.699 it in my head as a movie. 1734 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:27.880 Yeah. 1735 01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:31.159 I get to do that so often. 1736 01:06:31.179 --> 01:06:31.619 Yeah. 1737 01:06:32.019 --> 01:06:37.460 I'm living this very special, so big vortex of energy 1738 01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:39.039 and hormones, and it's awesome. 1739 01:06:39.099 --> 01:06:39.840 It's the coolest thing. 1740 01:06:40.139 --> 01:06:42.760 Yes. Then you guys, you do the favors with him. 1741 01:06:42.980 --> 01:06:43.239 Yep. 1742 01:06:43.460 --> 01:06:46.880 I'm just going to flag Home Sweet Home. That's my 1743 01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:51.909 song on that album, The Dream. It's so funky and fun. 1744 01:06:51.929 --> 01:06:53.070 A little disco-y, huh? 1745 01:06:53.570 --> 01:06:56.329 Yes. There's some hints. That one is a bit Bee Geesy. 1746 01:06:56.710 --> 01:06:59.469 And then Stop the Wedding is very Abba-y in a 1747 01:06:59.570 --> 01:07:00.170 lovely way. 1748 01:07:00.449 --> 01:07:01.590 Big inspiration for me. 1749 01:07:01.969 --> 01:07:04.170 To the degree that you've seen the play and everything, 1750 01:07:04.230 --> 01:07:07.190 and you've watched the— my children watch the movie quite often. 1751 01:07:07.389 --> 01:07:07.690 Oh,

yeah. 1752 01:07:07.869 --> 01:07:08.889 Like once a year. 1753 01:07:09.090 --> 01:07:09.409 Mamma Mia. 1754 01:07:09.409 --> 01:07:11.019 Yeah, Mamma Mia. Mamma Mia. 1755 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.719 For the listener. Mamma Mia. 1756 01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:13.980 Yeah, Meryl Streep. 1757 01:07:14.260 --> 01:07:16.480 I don't really get— I don't know if you get starstruck. 1758 01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:19.619 I mean, you see stars all the time on this couch. 1759 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:21.199 But Meryl Streep? 1760 01:07:21.710 --> 01:07:22.230 Yeah, forget it. 1761 01:07:22.230 --> 01:07:24.760 I'd fall over and die. 1762 01:07:25.219 --> 01:07:28.780 Sometimes people say we look alike. 1763 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.860 Yeah, the aforementioned Without a Paddle, that was the first 1764 01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:34.559 movie I was ever in. First time they sent me 1765 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:36.400 away to go do all these different things you have 1766 01:07:36.420 --> 01:07:37.980 to do when you're in a studio movie. And one 1767 01:07:38.019 --> 01:07:40.659 was go to this thing, Show West. And I, like, 1768 01:07:40.940 --> 01:07:42.679 come out. We're all on stage with all these other 1769 01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:44.239 movies that are coming out. And I bounce out the 1770 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:48.510 back door to have a cigarette and fucking miss Streep. No. 1771 01:07:48.550 --> 01:07:49.420 Out there banging a dart. 1772 01:07:49.699 --> 01:07:49.920 No. 1773 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:51.940 Yeah, she and I killed a fucking dart. And I'm like, 1774 01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:55.480 one year ago, I had been trying to get up. 1775 01:07:55.849 --> 01:07:58.409 Roll for nine years and didn't get one. And then 1776 01:07:58.530 --> 01:08:00.199 somehow I'm now back here. 1777 01:08:00.219 --> 01:08:01.780 Do you know who you were? 1778 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:01.920 No. 1779 01:08:01.940 --> 01:08:02.300 Fuck no. 1780 01:08:02.539 --> 01:08:02.880 Yeah, no. 1781 01:08:02.900 --> 01:08:03.340 That's okay. 1782 01:08:03.380 --> 01:08:04.250 That's great. I'll learn it. 1783 01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:05.780 Smoking a cigarette with her? 1784 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:06.519 That's so cool. 1785 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:06.719 Yeah. 1786 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:07.920 That's pretty rad. 1787 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:09.300 That's your best story. 1788 01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:10.000 Yeah. 1789 01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:10.940 I agree. 1790 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:12.659 Wow. Pull that one out more. 1791 01:08:13.469 --> 01:08:15.190 I was keeping it in the back pocket. 1792 01:08:15.210 --> 01:08:15.969 I haven't heard that. 1793 01:08:15.989 --> 01:08:16.909 I know. I'm running out. 1794 01:08:16.970 --> 01:08:17.510 I'm running out. 1795 01:08:17.529 --> 01:08:18.449 There's only a couple left. 1796 01:08:18.630 --> 01:08:21.670 I've had some cigarettes with some pretty cool people, but 1797 01:08:21.810 --> 01:08:22.989 no one as cool as her. 1798 01:08:23.010 --> 01:08:24.289 God, I should start smoking. 1799 01:08:24.529 --> 01:08:28.199 I will ask you, when you meet John Canada, I just, 1800 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:29.600 this name is too much for me. 1801 01:08:29.819 --> 01:08:30.439 It's crazy. 1802 01:08:30.899 --> 01:08:34.859 How does someone end up with the name Canada? I'm 1803 01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:39.020 a shepherd. My family apparently at one point herded animals. 1804 01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:39.760 Clearly. 1805 01:08:39.819 --> 01:08:40.300 Shepherds. 1806 01:08:40.579 --> 01:08:43.770 I think it comes from Kennedy. O'Kennedy. They're Irish. 1807 01:08:44.090 --> 01:08:44.729 Okay. 1808 01:08:44.770 --> 01:08:47.409 And I think maybe someone wrote it down wrong when 1809 01:08:47.449 --> 01:08:48.069 they came over. 1810 01:08:48.090 --> 01:08:49.109 Okay, great. 1811 01:08:49.130 --> 01:08:52.090 So O'Kennedy became Canada. 1812 01:08:52.449 --> 01:08:53.949 Kennedy, Canada. 1813 01:08:54.170 --> 01:08:55.970 So really I'm kind of a Kennedy. 1814 01:08:55.989 --> 01:08:56.590 Wow. 1815 01:08:56.609 --> 01:08:57.949 If you really stretch it. 1816 01:08:57.989 --> 01:08:58.090 Yes. 1817 01:09:00.260 --> 01:09:01.220 You really stretch it. 1818 01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:04.960 What does John Canada have that makes you willing to 1819 01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:06.619 give marriage a second shot? 1820 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:08.600 I love that. 1821 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:14.010 Well, I mean, I could label so many things. The 1822 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:18.229 best thing, everyone is in his circle. I'm a very 1823 01:09:18.270 --> 01:09:18.989 small circle person. 1824 01:09:19.579 --> 01:09:20.319 Tiny, tiny. 1825 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:23.579 If you have permission in, then you are very, very 1826 01:09:23.619 --> 01:09:24.220 important to me. 1827 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:24.699 Sacred. 1828 01:09:24.939 --> 01:09:29.439 He has this selflessness to him and this compassion to him. 1829 01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:33.920 That he just, all walks of life, whoever you are, 1830 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:38.279 just pulls them in and makes them feel seen, feel hurt, 1831 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:39.779 feel understood. 1832 01:09:39.859 --> 01:09:43.039 I don't know how he does it. The aforementioned non-trauma. 1833 01:09:43.220 --> 01:09:43.640 Yeah. 1834 01:09:43.659 --> 01:09:45.520 Well, I was going to say, he's not worried people 1835 01:09:45.550 --> 01:09:46.739 are going to be liabilities. 1836 01:09:46.779 --> 01:09:48.380 Right. They're not going to hurt him. 1837 01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:52.779 All my compassion and my empathy has come from my trauma. 1838 01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:55.739 So I'm like, where does this get born of? I 1839 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.640 think I'm a really kind person. He makes me look 1840 01:10:00.649 --> 01:10:02.170 like a fucking. 1841 01:10:02.189 --> 01:10:03.569 Like a real piece of shit. 1842 01:10:03.770 --> 01:10:07.670 I like the idea of our kids being able to 1843

01:10:07.750 --> 01:10:12.289 have that balance of a little bit of a hard-ass 1844 01:10:12.390 --> 01:10:15.979 mom and then this guy who's just always going to 1845 01:10:16.430 --> 01:10:20.829 listen and be like, whatever you have for me, I'm here. 1846 01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:24.960 And it's really sweet. I think that's his best thing. 1847 01:10:25.100 --> 01:10:26.680 And then again, back to. 1848 01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:28.500 The last life thing. 1849 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.479 I don't know. I looked in his eyes. I looked 1850 01:10:31.539 --> 01:10:33.890 at him and I thought, you look like my children. 1851 01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:35.859 Whoa. 1852 01:10:36.020 --> 01:10:38.460 Like, my children are going to look like you. 1853 01:10:38.539 --> 01:10:39.119 Oh, wow. 1854 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:41.279 That's the moment I met him. 1855 01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:42.199 Oh, wow, wow. 1856 01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:43.140 That's crazy. 1857 01:10:43.659 --> 01:10:45.659 It's ovulation time today. 1858 01:10:45.739 --> 01:10:46.229 I know. 1859 01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:46.930 I know. 1860 01:10:46.949 --> 01:10:47.930 Let's get it over here. 1861 01:10:47.970 --> 01:10:49.489 He's flying in tonight. 1862 01:10:49.510 --> 01:10:49.869 Uh-oh. 1863 01:10:49.890 --> 01:10:52.109 You said you wanted to wait. 1864 01:10:52.149 --> 01:10:53.430 No, he's going to be in the music video. 1865 01:10:53.449 --> 01:10:53.930 Don't wait. 1866 01:10:54.010 --> 01:10:55.109 Don't wait. Don't wait. 1867 01:10:55.350 --> 01:10:56.850 You have all these stories about how you won't be 1868 01:10:56.869 --> 01:10:58.350 able to do the thing you want to do. And 1869 01:10:58.409 --> 01:11:00.600 Chris and I, our careers both got way, way better. 1870 01:11:00.989 --> 01:11:01.380 Okay. 1871 01:11:01.449 --> 01:11:03.100 Magically. We're like, I don't know how this is going 1872 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.020 to work. And then there's some kind of magic that happens. 1873 01:11:05.180 --> 01:11:05.979 I needed to hear that. 1874 01:11:06.060 --> 01:11:06.539 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1875 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:07.699 I think I'm on the same page. 1876 01:11:07.979 --> 01:11:10.399 What I'm not going to do is let my success 1877 01:11:10.500 --> 01:11:12.859 get in the way of my greatest dream, which is 1878 01:11:12.899 --> 01:11:13.550 to be a mom. 1879 01:11:13.770 --> 01:11:14.199 There you go. 1880 01:11:14.619 --> 01:11:17.890 But I also really want to go on tour next year. 1881 01:11:18.069 --> 01:11:20.569 Yeah, you'll go on tour. Kristen shot six movies. She 1882 01:11:20.609 --> 01:11:23.140 was pregnant. She's nursing. She's, you know, you do it. 1883 01:11:23.630 --> 01:11:26.810 Also, there's the stigma with being a lady that the 1884 01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:30.399 minute you... Have the baby. It's like your fall. It's 1885 01:11:30.460 --> 01:11:32.039 on the downside of your career. 1886 01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:35.770 I'd love the trajectory to be a continuation of Up. 1887 01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:37.920 I think you guys might be outliers. 1888 01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:43.079 No, I can point to Natalie Portman. I can point 1889 01:11:43.140 --> 01:11:45.399 to so many people that you're just not aware that 1890 01:11:45.449 --> 01:11:47.130 they had kids at all. 1891 01:11:47.170 --> 01:11:49.729 So many people have kids that you don't know have kids. 1892 01:11:49.789 --> 01:11:50.569 Yeah. 1893 01:11:50.710 --> 01:11:53.569 It is different acting world because you can kind of 1894 01:11:53.609 --> 01:11:54.609 disappear for a while. 1895 01:11:54.890 --> 01:11:55.479 It's worse. 1896 01:11:55.489 --> 01:11:56.409 Because you're disappearing. 1897 01:11:56.449 --> 01:12:00.550 No, it's worse. Your character isn't pregnant. She's working as 1898 01:12:00.609 --> 01:12:03.270 a consultant. She's supposed to be a single person. She's 1899 01:12:03.329 --> 01:12:06.560 super pregnant. It's harder. You're allowed to be pregnant. You 1900 01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:08.880 can be a pop star who's pregnant. 1901 01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:12.119 You can hide. And they do when people are working. 1902 01:12:12.180 --> 01:12:13.920 But you don't even need to. 1903 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:15.909 You don't need to hide. 1904 01:12:15.970 --> 01:12:19.090 You singing this song with a big baby bump is radical. 1905 01:12:19.829 --> 01:12:20.890 Who doesn't want to see that? 1906 01:12:21.729 --> 01:12:23.210 It's gonna be so cute. 1907 01:12:23.329 --> 01:12:25.109 Yes, there you go. 1908 01:12:25.630 --> 01:12:26.489 I'm so excited. 1909 01:12:26.510 --> 01:12:28.710 Yeah, John Canada is also very handsome. 1910 01:12:29.130 --> 01:12:30.289 Oh, wow. 1911 01:12:30.569 --> 01:12:35.729 The video is like this old vintage 1960s dating game show. 1912 01:12:35.810 --> 01:12:36.750 Oh, fun. 1913 01:12:37.109 --> 01:12:40.630 And we need all these like hot male contestants. Oh, 1914 01:12:40.670 --> 01:12:41.310 look at you. 1915 01:12:41.229 --> 01:12:42.789 Getting the ass as a hot male. 1916 01:12:42.829 --> 01:12:45.229 No, I'm the janitor that finds the. 1917 01:12:45.369 --> 01:12:47.189 Oh, we were gonna ask him to be the host 1918 01:12:48.090 --> 01:12:49.050 of the show. Yeah, yeah. 1919 01:12:49.109 --> 01:12:49.270 Yeah. 1920 01:12:49.289 --> 01:12:54.569 The old pervy host. Kissing all the contestants on the lips. 1921 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:56.739 You're like, I have an idea for my character. 1922 01:12:56.859 --> 01:12:57.579 You want me to be. 1923 01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:59.260 Does that work for this song? 1924 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:03.539 Yeah, I'm so sorry you can't make it that day. 1925 01:13:03.699 --> 01:13:05.659 So I just want to ask, obviously you're here to 1926 01:13:05.699 --> 01:13:08.939 promote The Girl of Your Dreams, which comes out October 16th. 1927 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:09.979 Well, I'm here to. 1928 01:13:09.770 --> 01:13:11.189 Talk to you. I know you are. 1929 01:13:11.350 --> 01:13:12.770

That's my foot in the door. 1930 01:13:12.810 --> 01:13:16.289 But your project that's forthcoming is the album The Girl 1931 01:13:16.310 --> 01:13:19.989 of Your Dreams. Is this the first time... I'm assuming 1932 01:13:20.029 --> 01:13:22.590 it would be really radical to already have a single 1933 01:13:22.609 --> 01:13:24.899 that's totally working before the album comes out. 1934 01:13:25.060 --> 01:13:28.979 It does not suck. It's definitely a vote of confidence. 1935 01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.960 I also kind of reserved myself that this would be 1936 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:37.399 my last record if people didn't like it because I 1937 01:13:37.579 --> 01:13:40.770 really loved it and I know that it's my best work. 1938 01:13:40.970 --> 01:13:43.689 This is the best I've ever brought to the table. 1939 01:13:44.529 --> 01:13:48.470 from my voice and what I'm singing, but also the writing. 1940 01:13:48.770 --> 01:13:51.800 And the producer I worked with, Noah Conrad, he also 1941 01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:54.420 produced Moral of the Story. And he's at his best. 1942 01:13:54.579 --> 01:13:59.470 I mean, he is so unbelievably talented. Talk about yes and. 1943 01:14:00.250 --> 01:14:02.630 And I just know that this is my best. 1944 01:14:02.989 --> 01:14:06.279 So if my best... doesn't cut it, then I'm like, 1945 01:14:06.460 --> 01:14:07.699 all right, we're going to pivot. 1946 01:14:07.979 --> 01:14:11.220 Hold on. I got to disagree with this. 1947 01:14:11.300 --> 01:14:14.930 I'm not saying it's advice to other people. 1948 01:14:14.979 --> 01:14:20.670 We just interviewed Guillermo del Toro. There isn't a more 1949 01:14:20.869 --> 01:14:24.489 creative volcano on planet earth. Tons of these movies that 1950 01:14:24.510 --> 01:14:27.069 were fucking absolutely brilliant. No one saw if he would 1951 01:14:27.090 --> 01:14:29.779 have been like, well, I did. Pan's Labyrinth and it 1952 01:14:29.819 --> 01:14:32.560 didn't make $ 600 million. So I guess I'm in the 1953 01:14:32.619 --> 01:14:36.260 wrong business. And this, by the way, this contradicts what 1954 01:14:36.300 --> 01:14:38.569 you just said, which is like if rich and famous 1955 01:14:38.630 --> 01:14:40.710 is the goal, then get the fuck out of the business. 1956 01:14:40.750 --> 01:14:43.369 Making great albums that you're proud of is the business. 1957 01:14:43.390 --> 01:14:43.989 Making your art. 1958 01:14:44.189 --> 01:14:46.609 I think it's like, can I keep paying the bills 1959 01:14:46.649 --> 01:14:47.000 with it? 1960 01:14:47.189 --> 01:14:50.699 Right. Well, John Canada's going to, you know, he's going to. 1961 01:14:50.659 --> 01:14:51.880 Have to help you worry about that. 1962 01:14:51.899 --> 01:14:53.300 He does have his master's in accounting. 1963 01:14:53.420 --> 01:14:54.520 Well, there we go. 1964 01:14:54.539 --> 01:14:55.579 That's a reliable job. 1965 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.550 That's a far better backup plan than either of us have. 1966 01:14:58.590 --> 01:15:01.210 By the way, my grandma loves that fact. 1967 01:15:01.449 --> 01:15:03.289 Yeah, that's a good fact. 1968 01:15:03.310 --> 01:15:05.829 Well, that's a reasonable man. Sensible man. 1969 01:15:05.949 --> 01:15:08.050 Sensible man. He's a drummer in a band. 1970 01:15:08.310 --> 01:15:11.310 I just read this Instagram. I was thinking about this 1971 01:15:11.350 --> 01:15:14.340 on the toilet today. You see these things on Instagram, 1972 01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.199 and even if you recognize at the moment this probably 1973 01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:20.210 isn't scientific, it's stuck in your head forever, and you 1974 01:15:20.250 --> 01:15:22.390 will eventually think it was scientific. So I read this 1975 01:15:22.409 --> 01:15:26.289 thing recently that they IQ test on musicians and that 1976 01:15:26.930 --> 01:15:32.029 drummers are the smartest across the board from all the musicians. Wow. 1977 01:15:32.930 --> 01:15:36.720 And again, I can't imagine how robust this scientific study was, 1978 01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:39.760 but it's now in my head and will be for life. 1979 01:15:39.779 --> 01:15:41.600 So he's probably brilliant because he's a drummer. 1980 01:15:41.779 --> 01:15:43.149 He's very smart. 1981 01:15:43.210 --> 01:15:43.789 There you go. 1982 01:15:44.130 --> 01:15:44.529 Yeah. 1983 01:15:44.609 --> 01:15:45.350 One more bit of data. 1984 01:15:45.430 --> 01:15:47.069 I can't add it to the study. 1985 01:15:47.090 --> 01:15:48.510 I love that. 1986 01:15:48.609 --> 01:15:51.399 He wasn't like some crazy percentile of his class. 1987 01:15:51.739 --> 01:15:52.079 Okay. 1988 01:15:52.100 --> 01:15:52.579 There you go. 1989 01:15:52.699 --> 01:15:54.460 And he's drawn to the drums. They were pointing out 1990 01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.260 something about rhythm, like something about time. There's some mental gymnastics. 1991 01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:00.399 Well, your brain is doing two things at once for 1992 01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:00.760 the drums, right? 1993 01:16:00.779 --> 01:16:03.239 Yeah, it's like the people who can. Yeah. Which I'm 1994 01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:04.539 not even doing right right now. 1995 01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:07.279 Yeah, I can do that. I think the hardest one 1996 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:07.810 is this one. 1997 01:16:08.869 --> 01:16:09.369 Oh, yeah. 1998 01:16:09.649 --> 01:16:11.550 Concentric circles that go the opposite way. 1999 01:16:11.569 --> 01:16:15.579 Did I do it? Oh, but then you keep going? 2000 01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:18.319 You're doing it. You're doing it. That's a great... See, 2001 01:16:18.340 --> 01:16:19.340 Monica's going like this. 2002 01:16:19.539 --> 01:16:22.350 Shut up! How dare you? 2003 01:16:22.390 --> 01:16:25.029 But she's about to start her period, and you're. 2004 01:16:25.069 --> 01:16:27.069 Yeah, you're in your... And I'm ovulating. 2005 01:16:27.090 --> 01:16:28.630 Yeah, well, you got a little... You got a little 2006 01:16:28.649 -->

01:16:29.529 skinny wampus there. 2007 01:16:29.550 --> 01:16:30.069 It's real. 2008 01:16:30.090 --> 01:16:31.020 But yeah, that's a hard one. 2009 01:16:31.369 --> 01:16:31.970 Wow. 2010 01:16:31.989 --> 01:16:33.449 I can't do it. 2011 01:16:33.670 --> 01:16:35.050 Do you make all your guests do this? 2012 01:16:35.250 --> 01:16:39.130 No, you're the first. Again, I've got four tricks left. 2013 01:16:39.250 --> 01:16:42.829 Wait, so going back to this whole I would. 2014 01:16:42.510 --> 01:16:46.229 Have quit thing. I don't think I'd put as much 2015 01:16:46.350 --> 01:16:50.130 stake into it. I just signed my first major record 2016 01:16:50.149 --> 01:16:54.229 deal for this album, and it was off the back 2017 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:59.399 of My biggest collaboration project with Phineas, a band, there 2018 01:16:59.439 --> 01:17:03.199 was just this hype and momentum that was setting up 2019 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:08.430 this record for commercial success. And if all of that 2020 01:17:08.510 --> 01:17:12.890 momentum and the best writing that I've ever done didn't 2021 01:17:13.170 --> 01:17:18.170 sort of materialize in a commercial way, there is so 2022 01:17:18.229 --> 01:17:21.119 much to this job that I hate and that I 2023 01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:27.739 am unwilling to To continue doing for not commercial success. 2024 01:17:28.020 --> 01:17:31.760 When you walk into the morning radio show in Pittsburgh, 2025 01:17:31.899 --> 01:17:34.840 the fucking shock jocks are in there. And the gotcha. 2026 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:35.079 Yeah. 2027 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:36.760 You can see them like trying to figure out who 2028 01:17:36.779 --> 01:17:37.680 just walked in. 2029 01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:39.939 They're trying to get you to call the most famous 2030 01:17:39.979 --> 01:17:41.079 person in your phone. 2031 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:41.659 It's all. 2032 01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:42.260 It's all. 2033 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:43.220 It's terrible. 2034 01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:47.319 It's miserable. And I don't like to travel. I'm a homebody. 2035 01:17:47.579 --> 01:17:50.390 I'm a touring musician who's a homebody. It doesn't always 2036 01:17:50.430 --> 01:17:53.149 go super well together. I love being on stage, but 2037 01:17:53.350 --> 01:17:55.710 the best place in the world is the good spot 2038 01:17:55.770 --> 01:17:56.449 on my couch. 2039 01:17:56.850 --> 01:17:59.609 And I would just love to be there all the time. 2040 01:17:59.829 --> 01:18:00.149 Yes. 2041 01:18:00.369 --> 01:18:04.229 I am very loud and boisterous and goofy, but so 2042 01:18:04.329 --> 01:18:07.050 much of me loves solitude and quiet. 2043 01:18:07.529 --> 01:18:12.319 And my life as the musician and artist, Ash... is loud. 2044 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:16.649 And I will happily sacrifice things that I don't like 2045 01:18:16.729 --> 01:18:20.449 to do for all the wonderful parts of this job. 2046 01:18:20.710 --> 01:18:22.970 They'll still make you do the shit

you don't want 2047 01:18:23.010 --> 01:18:24.930 to do as a failure. 2048 01:18:25.449 --> 01:18:28.390 Maybe less, you're not on the top radio station. 2049 01:18:28.409 --> 01:18:32.090 You're doing some dog shit radio thing. People are still 2050 01:18:32.130 --> 01:18:35.529 trying to gotcha. They're still throwing you on a bus. 2051 01:18:35.590 --> 01:18:38.850 Maybe it's a sprinter van now. I followed Lewis Capaldi 2052 01:18:39.350 --> 01:18:41.470 Behind his tour bus in my Saturn Ion. 2053 01:18:41.789 --> 01:18:42.069 Nice. 2054 01:18:42.189 --> 01:18:42.729 For weeks. 2055 01:18:43.229 --> 01:18:45.829 Driving behind him on tour. And it was when he 2056 01:18:45.869 --> 01:18:47.729 was doing like the Troubadour. 2057 01:18:47.750 --> 01:18:48.319 It was 250, 500 cap. 2058 01:18:50.060 --> 01:18:52.340 Rooms. I've been doing this for so long. 2059 01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:53.000 Yeah. 2060 01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:53.260 Yeah. 2061 01:18:53.539 --> 01:18:53.859 That. 2062 01:18:55.310 --> 01:18:59.149 I'm exhausted and I don't want to keep doing it 2063 01:18:59.430 --> 01:19:00.390 if I can't have. 2064 01:19:00.550 --> 01:19:03.470 The reward. The reward. I get it. So that's more 2065 01:19:03.489 --> 01:19:05.989 what I was. I needed to verbally process that with 2066 01:19:06.029 --> 01:19:07.979 you because it does sound kind of like you're a 2067 01:19:08.020 --> 01:19:11.300 dick when you're like, if this didn't work, I'm out 2068 01:19:11.340 --> 01:19:14.380 of here. And I don't feel that way. 2069 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:16.500 It can sound self-protective. 2070 01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:17.899 Yeah. 2071 01:19:18.039 --> 01:19:19.479 That's more. That's what I would not want. 2072 01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:21.300 You're already cocking in me. 2073 01:19:21.500 --> 01:19:22.859 Yeah, yeah. Because I have it. 2074 01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:24.539 Game recognized game. 2075 01:19:24.899 --> 01:19:27.859 Dude, my movie didn't open. I quit directing. And then 2076 01:19:27.899 --> 01:19:30.659 I started this. Thank God this worked out. But yeah, 2077 01:19:30.810 --> 01:19:32.829 I relate. I'm like, I'm not going to kill myself 2078 01:19:32.850 --> 01:19:34.729 for two fucking years and take all these notes from 2079 01:19:34.750 --> 01:19:36.829 the studio and then have it fucking not open and 2080 01:19:36.930 --> 01:19:38.920 I'm gone all the time. I'm out. 2081 01:19:38.930 --> 01:19:40.869 I don't get to see my family. 2082 01:19:41.090 --> 01:19:43.989 Yeah. But had this not happened... I also should have 2083 01:19:44.010 --> 01:19:46.770 just kept directing because I'm proud of the things I've directed. 2084 01:19:46.869 --> 01:19:49.010 If I have the opportunity to do it, I should 2085 01:19:49.029 --> 01:19:50.310 do it because I love doing it. 2086 01:19:50.430 --> 01:19:51.890 Are you doing more directing these days? 2087 01:19:51.909 --> 01:19:54.390 I can't now. We do 162 episodes of this a year. 2088 01:19:54.449 --> 01:19:57.560 So there's no way I can do anything other than 2089 01:19:57.619 --> 01:20:00.239 this job. But it's a good fucking job. 2090 01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:02.460 Do you both identify as extroverted? 2091 01:20:03.220 --> 01:20:07.310 When a conversation is over, are you pretty tired or 2092 01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:08.510 are you energized by it? 2093 01:20:08.949 --> 01:20:10.890 I guess it depends on the conversation. 2094 01:20:10.949 --> 01:20:11.750 Oh, the person. 2095 01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:13.239 It depends on the finish. 2096 01:20:13.260 --> 01:20:14.579 Yeah, yesterday we left. 2097 01:20:14.899 --> 01:20:15.439 Oh, I was like. 2098 01:20:15.460 --> 01:20:16.500 We were floating on. 2099 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.600 Yeah, I was like, I can't believe we got to 2100 01:20:19.619 --> 01:20:19.810 do that. 2101 01:20:19.819 --> 01:20:20.569 With Guillermo? 2102 01:20:20.869 --> 01:20:21.229 Yeah. 2103 01:20:21.289 --> 01:20:21.789 Yeah. 2104 01:20:22.069 --> 01:20:24.689 Like to get to meet a human. Yeah. 2105 01:20:24.829 --> 01:20:26.930 It's like, oh, I can't believe we got to talk 2106 01:20:26.970 --> 01:20:27.729 to someone like that. 2107 01:20:27.750 --> 01:20:28.170 That's so cool. 2108 01:20:28.189 --> 01:20:30.350 In your lifetime, if you're in your entire life, you 2109 01:20:30.369 --> 01:20:32.340 sat next to someone like him on an airplane and 2110 01:20:32.380 --> 01:20:33.260 got to spend two hours. 2111 01:20:33.300 --> 01:20:35.699 Not because of who he is in the world. The status. 2112 01:20:35.739 --> 01:20:38.060 Because of who he is as a person. 2113 01:20:38.100 --> 01:20:38.760 His essence, yeah. 2114 01:20:38.819 --> 01:20:39.739 His frequency. 2115 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:40.399 Stunning. 2116 01:20:40.439 --> 01:20:41.020 Stunning, yeah. 2117 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:44.819 So, yeah, sometimes it's like, and then sometimes you're like, 2118 01:20:44.930 --> 01:20:45.819 I am this nap time. 2119 01:20:47.750 --> 01:20:50.170 Yeah. And it's now both. 2120 01:20:50.569 --> 01:20:51.930 I don't know what the word is, but I don't 2121 01:20:51.949 --> 01:20:55.890 want to say addicted to work, but I love working. 2122 01:20:56.489 --> 01:20:57.210 I love to work. 2123 01:20:57.569 --> 01:20:59.970 A big piece of my identity, I think yours is 2124 01:21:00.109 --> 01:21:02.329 I am very hard worker. Yes, I'm a hard worker. 2125 01:21:02.409 --> 01:21:04.609 That's an admirable quality that I want. 2126 01:21:04.829 --> 01:21:07.369 Which has gotten us all into so much trouble. 2127 01:21:07.470 --> 01:21:07.890 Of course. 2128 01:21:08.170 --> 01:21:10.909 Sure, sure. But compared to the other approach I take. 2129 01:21:11.220 --> 01:21:12.560 I'd rather be a hard worker. 2130 01:21:12.579 --> 01:21:15.510 Yeah, yeah. Look, it's not an option. I'm not at 2131 01:21:15.569 --> 01:21:18.350 peace being lazy. I try it all the time. I 2132 01:21:18.390 --> 01:21:20.130 convince myself all the time I can do it. And

2133 01:21:20.170 --> 01:21:21.989 then three weeks into it, I'm like, no, no. We're 2134 01:21:22.029 --> 01:21:25.100 not here to watch the fucking clouds go by. We've 2135 01:21:25.140 --> 01:21:27.220 got limited time. We must do everything there is to 2136 01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:28.439 do on this planet. Let's go. 2137 01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:32.670 Intense. You're an intense fella. 2138 01:21:32.750 --> 01:21:34.029 What song do you think you're going to play? 2139 01:21:34.050 --> 01:21:36.810 I feel like, I mean, Stop the Wedding is the song. 2140 01:21:36.949 --> 01:21:40.909 That's the anthem of the fall. And I will say, 2141 01:21:42.229 --> 01:21:46.539 we met at a wedding. And it was awesome. 2142 01:21:46.640 --> 01:21:47.579 So it's on record. 2143 01:21:47.699 --> 01:21:50.260 I've only played this on piano once. 2144 01:21:51.420 --> 01:21:54.500 And you have a very bad cold. Yes. And you 2145 01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:55.579 got terrible news on the way here. 2146 01:21:56.850 --> 01:22:00.449 I am fighting a legal battle right now. Let's get 2147 01:22:00.510 --> 01:22:01.090 into that. 2148 01:22:01.109 --> 01:22:01.649 Just kidding. 2149 01:22:01.670 --> 01:22:04.149 Do you really have diarrhea? 2150 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:05.310 I wish. 2151 01:22:05.350 --> 01:22:06.960 Yeah. Not today. 2152 01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:08.039 Okay. 2153 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:08.899 Yeah, let's party. 2154 01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:09.539 Can we just end it? 2155 01:22:10.100 --> 01:22:10.479 Yeah. Okay. 2156 01:22:11.020 --> 01:22:13.159 Yeah, no, it's nice to do this song. The song's 2157 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.819 kind of like changing my life right now. 2158 01:22:15.060 --> 01:22:15.659 Yes. 2159 01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:17.199 So we'll pay it tribute. 2160 01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:17.420 Yeah. 2161 01:22:18.630 --> 01:22:23.569 I found a secret note. Burn after reading this. It's supernatural, 2162 01:22:23.609 --> 01:22:25.920 the feeling sinking in. 2163 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:27.239 This isn't cold feet. 2164 01:22:27.779 --> 01:22:33.260 These aren't fireworks. The sky is menacing. And that's an iceberg. 2165 01:22:33.300 --> 01:22:36.659 He thinks he's velvet smooth. I've fallen for the act. 2166 01:22:37.180 --> 01:22:40.699 I'm in the other room and seeing through the cracks. 2167 01:22:40.779 --> 01:22:44.979 The voices in my head are screaming, oh. 2168 01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:55.659 Wear your heart out. 2169 01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.939 The warning signs are flashing now. 2170 01:22:59.180 --> 01:23:05.060 Stop the wedding. Stop the wedding. 2171 01:23:06.470 --> 01:23:10.789 Even though the table's set, the guests are waiting. You 2172 01:23:10.829 --> 01:23:15.729 can burn the dress and run away. Stop the wedding. 2173 01:23:17.770 --> 01:23:19.729 Stop the wedding. 2174 01:23:21.210 --> 01:23:24.489 You've been such a good girl. 2175 01:23:25.130 --> 01:23:28.689 Talking like you should, girl. 2176 01:23:28.710 --> 01:23:33.020 We'll

keep avoiding disappointing and your white satin heels. 2177 01:23:33.239 --> 01:23:36.439 You know how you really feel. 2178 01:23:36.500 --> 01:23:37.699 You don't have to. 2179 01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:42.199 Waste your night and wear your heart out. The warning 2180 01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:44.319 signs are flashing now. 2181 01:23:44.470 --> 01:23:49.449 Stop the wording. Stop the. 2182 01:23:51.489 --> 01:23:55.770 Even though the tables sit, the guests are waiting, you 2183 01:23:55.810 --> 01:23:57.350 can burn. 2184 01:23:56.729 --> 01:23:59.050 The dress and run away. 2185 01:23:59.069 --> 01:24:01.189 Stop the wedding. 2186 01:24:02.689 --> 01:24:10.100 Stop the wedding. Stop the wedding. Stop the wedding. 2187 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:14.739 If your heart is dreading, hands are sweating while the 2188 01:24:14.819 --> 01:24:16.100 sun is setting. 2189 01:24:16.659 --> 01:24:25.060 You'll be getting out. Stop the wedding, stop the. 2190 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:28.260 Wedding If your heart is dreading, hands. 2191 01:24:27.939 --> 01:24:33.319 Are sweating While the sun is setting, you'll be getting. 2192 01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.409 Out You don't. 2193 01:24:39.789 --> 01:24:44.750 Have to waste your life and wear your heart out 2194 01:24:45.010 --> 01:24:48.729 The warning signs are flashing out. 2195 01:24:53.130 --> 01:24:56.390 Stop the wedding. 2196 01:24:56.430 --> 01:25:00.850 Even though the table's set, the guests are waiting. You 2197 01:25:00.890 --> 01:25:05.350 can burn the dress and run away. Stop the wedding. 2198 01:25:06.859 --> 01:25:12.039 Stop the wedding. 2199 01:25:12.579 --> 01:25:14.119 Only you can start. 2200 01:25:14.619 --> 01:25:17.779 Stop the wedding. 2201 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:30.890 Oh, girl, you let it rip! 2202 01:25:32.010 --> 01:25:33.409 Oh, you let it rip. 2203 01:25:33.449 --> 01:25:36.270 It's beautiful. 2204 01:25:36.380 --> 01:25:38.819 Sorry, I'm just wailing at you. 2205 01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:39.579 That's our preferred. 2206 01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:44.060 I got a little welled up. Oh, it's so good. 2207 01:25:44.340 --> 01:25:44.979 So good. 2208 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:45.800 Thanks, guys. 2209 01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:50.460 I loved meeting you at the wedding, and I loved 2210 01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:52.640 this interview. I'm so glad, and I feel very grateful 2211 01:25:52.659 --> 01:25:55.479 that you sang for us. That was really beautiful. 2212 01:25:55.510 --> 01:25:56.229 This was fantastic. 2213 01:25:56.350 --> 01:25:59.270 And I want everyone to listen to, to every single 2214 01:25:59.289 --> 01:26:01.670 track on The Girl of Your Dreams starting October 16th. 2215 01:26:01.670 --> 01:26:02.189 And go back. 2216 01:26:02.229 --> 01:26:03.550 Listen to all the albums. 2217 01:26:03.609 --> 01:26:04.310 Yes, yes, yes. 2218 01:26:04.350 --> 01:26:05.189 Thanks, guys. 2219 01:26:05.250 --> 01:26:08.140 Yes, yes. Take the journey that we're currently on. 2220 01:26:08.149 --> 01:26:08.439 Yeah. 2221 01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:09.579 All right. Adore you. 2222 01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:10.880 I love you guys. 2223 01:26:11.420 --> 01:26:14.819 He is an armchair expert, but he makes mistakes all 2224 01:26:14.859 --> 01:26:17.300 the time. Thank God Monica's here. 2225 01:26:17.399 --> 01:26:19.770 She's got to let him have the facts. 2226 01:26:21.350 --> 01:26:22.810 I have a little treat for you. 2227 01:26:23.989 --> 01:26:24.590 What is it? 2228 01:26:24.590 --> 01:26:26.489 I want to start this with an audio clip. 2229 01:26:26.909 --> 01:26:27.090 Okay. 2230 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:29.529 This was found on Kristen's computer today. 2231 01:26:30.069 --> 01:26:30.500 Okay. 2232 01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:32.329 And I think you're going to enjoy it. 2233 01:26:32.340 --> 01:26:33.539 Mama made it. 2234 01:26:33.739 --> 01:26:35.239 But how did you get in mommy's tummy? 2235 01:26:39.539 --> 01:26:40.420 Yeah, how'd you get in there? 2236 01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:41.979 Mama? 2237 01:26:42.859 --> 01:26:46.000 I didn't get in there. I got made in there. Right, 2238 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:47.739 but how did you get in there? 2239 01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:50.619 What do you think you grew from? You know like 2240 01:26:50.699 --> 01:26:52.479 a tree has to grow from a seed, right? 2241 01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:54.279 A blood cell. 2242 01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:55.279 No, an egg. 2243 01:26:56.310 --> 01:26:57.170 An egg. 2244 01:26:57.329 --> 01:27:01.909 A little tiny blue thing in that electric cord on 2245 01:27:02.020 --> 01:27:06.760 an egg. It's coming. It connects to the ball in 2246 01:27:06.779 --> 01:27:10.079 the middle. And then the string on the other side. 2247 01:27:10.300 --> 01:27:10.659 String. 2248 01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:15.500 It connects to my tummy. The umbilical cord. My tummy. 2249 01:27:15.579 --> 01:27:16.960 That's you too. 2250 01:27:17.020 --> 01:27:17.659 That's right. 2251 01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:20.260 Hold on, hold on. 2252 01:27:20.300 --> 01:27:24.750 Hold on. What made you use your umbilical cord? Is 2253 01:27:24.789 --> 01:27:25.579 that what you're telling me? 2254 01:27:25.590 --> 01:27:26.250 Mm-hmm. 2255 01:27:26.550 --> 01:27:31.920 Okay. So what part did I have to do with this? 2256 01:27:32.420 --> 01:27:32.960 You fed me. 2257 01:27:33.220 --> 01:27:35.479 You fed me. You snuggled me. 2258 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:36.539 You snuggled me. 2259 01:27:37.699 --> 01:27:39.460 Yes, I've done all those things, but that's after you 2260 01:27:39.500 --> 01:27:42.119 were born. What role do you think I played in 2261 01:27:42.159 --> 01:27:44.630 you being born? Do you think I was a part 2262 01:27:44.649 --> 01:27:44.829 of that? 2263 01:27:46.930 --> 01:27:48.819 You cut all your veal gourd. 2264 01:27:49.100 --> 01:27:49.529 She's rude. 2265 01:27:49.550 --> 01:27:50.710 I didn't do that. You're right. 2266 01:27:50.770 --> 01:27:51.470 She's doing gourd. 2267 01:27:51.489 --> 01:27:53.090 Do you think mommy just

grew you? 2268 01:27:53.369 --> 01:27:54.789 Do you think I thought about it and I was like, 2269 01:27:54.810 --> 01:27:57.010 I want to be pregnant. And then, poof, I was. 2270 01:27:57.029 --> 01:27:58.789 How do you think you got in there? 2271 01:27:58.890 --> 01:28:00.149 How would she know this? 2272 01:28:00.489 --> 01:28:01.569 Dad put me in. 2273 01:28:01.890 --> 01:28:03.109 Dad put me in. 2274 01:28:04.470 --> 01:28:04.750 So. 2275 01:28:04.770 --> 01:28:05.310 Seriously? 2276 01:28:05.390 --> 01:28:05.489 Yeah. 2277 01:28:06.250 --> 01:28:06.729 Oh my God. 2278 01:28:06.829 --> 01:28:10.369 So mommy's body makes eggs. And daddy's body makes sperm. 2279 01:28:11.229 --> 01:28:14.010 And my sperm swam up mommy's uterus. 2280 01:28:14.050 --> 01:28:20.479 This one made eggs. Mama's little ball make a baby. 2281 01:28:20.500 --> 01:28:23.899 Thank you for making me, Daddy. 2282 01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:24.600 You're welcome. 2283 01:28:24.619 --> 01:28:26.539 Thank you for making me, Daddy. 2284 01:28:26.819 --> 01:28:28.590 Oh, my God. 2285 01:28:28.659 --> 01:28:29.970 That's the thank you I. 2286 01:28:30.670 --> 01:28:32.189 Was wishing for. I was wishing for. 2287 01:28:32.210 --> 01:28:34.409 You're the great daddy to make the sweet angel. 2288 01:28:35.130 --> 01:28:35.989 Wait, wait. 2289 01:28:36.420 --> 01:28:41.579 Um what made her what made her make an egg. 2290 01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:44.539 And sperm mommy's egg and daddy's sperm. 2291 01:28:44.699 --> 01:28:47.649 Your sperm made a great baby. 2292 01:28:48.020 --> 01:28:49.140 Oh, Megan? 2293 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:49.680 No, me. 2294 01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:51.140 Oh, you. 2295 01:28:51.180 --> 01:28:54.840 You like her. This roommate is too great, baby. 2296 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.390 Oh, great babies. 2297 01:28:57.449 --> 01:28:58.050 You're lucky. 2298 01:28:58.250 --> 01:28:59.869 I'll say it, man. I think you have the two 2299 01:28:59.909 --> 01:29:02.850 best babies ever made. Daddy, I need mama. 2300 01:29:03.510 --> 01:29:04.970 Say hello to my daddy. 2301 01:29:05.829 --> 01:29:07.680 Say hello to your father. Wow. 2302 01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:08.560 I did. 2303 01:29:10.189 --> 01:29:12.369 When your fart arrives, I'll greet it appropriately. 2304 01:29:12.409 --> 01:29:14.560 Gordon, you smell it. 2305 01:29:15.859 --> 01:29:18.520 Oh, well, I do. Now I'm aware of it. 2306 01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:19.779 Things have really gotten. 2307 01:29:19.859 --> 01:29:24.180 Oh, my God. She said you made a sweet angel 2308 01:29:24.340 --> 01:29:25.779 and she was referring to herself. 2309 01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.199 I thought Lincoln said that about Delta. 2310 01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:29.659 No, Delta said it about herself. 2311 01:29:29.939 --> 01:29:32.859 And then she said a great baby about herself. Oh, 2312 01:29:32.939 --> 01:29:35.300 she did. You did make a sweet angel. 2313 01:29:37.260 --> 01:29:40.939 Her little voice. That came from a blue cord. 2314 01:29:41.380 --> 01:29:45.479 Listen, she got a lot right, and I am impressed. 2315 01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:48.930 It made me miss her at that age. 2316 01:29:48.979 --> 01:29:53.590 Thank you, Daddy. They all ended up thanking you. God. 2317 01:29:53.770 --> 01:29:57.210 Well, no, they already had a lot of gratitude for Mom. 2318 01:29:57.329 --> 01:29:59.039 I didn't hear a thank you in there for Mom. 2319 01:29:59.050 --> 01:30:01.630 Well, that's what preluded the conversation. That's what we were saying. 2320 01:30:01.670 --> 01:30:04.010 Do you know how this all comes about? 2321 01:30:04.109 --> 01:30:05.020 Mama made me. 2322 01:30:06.539 --> 01:30:07.100 Oh, my God. 2323 01:30:07.319 --> 01:30:09.180 Oh, her voice. 2324 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:14.399 She's a cartoon character slash kid like on a Disney show, 2325 01:30:14.859 --> 01:30:15.520 but in real life. 2326 01:30:15.739 --> 01:30:17.319 Is it a video or is it just audio? 2327 01:30:17.380 --> 01:30:19.020 It's a video, but it's like they don't know they're 2328 01:30:19.060 --> 01:30:21.500 being recorded. I don't know where I'm being recorded either. 2329 01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.340 Kristen just set the phone down, so it's just like 2330 01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:24.680 a close-up of a blanket. 2331 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:25.180 Oh, dang. 2332 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:27.720 But then you hear this funny conversation. Yeah, I wish 2333 01:30:27.779 --> 01:30:28.970 I could see Delta's face. 2334 01:30:29.189 --> 01:30:29.890 I know. 2335 01:30:30.050 --> 01:30:31.699 And Lincoln's sweet face. 2336 01:30:31.890 --> 01:30:33.029 The little baby's. 2337 01:30:33.729 --> 01:30:36.899 Yeah, they were five and six in that conversation. 2338 01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:37.880 Wait, seriously? 2339 01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:43.229 You caught the umbilical cord. However she says umbilical cord. 2340 01:30:43.270 --> 01:30:44.159 She really... I. 2341 01:30:45.789 --> 01:30:50.170 I'm impressed. And you guys were really just expecting them 2342 01:30:50.270 --> 01:30:52.130 to know about sperm and eggs. 2343 01:30:52.229 --> 01:30:54.340 Well, I don't think it was the first time they 2344 01:30:54.380 --> 01:30:56.279 had ever been told. I think this is a repeat 2345 01:30:56.340 --> 01:30:57.060 until they get it. 2346 01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:01.979 Yeah. The ball. The ball inside of mom. So cute. 2347 01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:05.000 What did I do? You fed me and snuggled me. 2348 01:31:05.119 --> 01:31:08.430 And snuggled me. That's so cute. 2349 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:11.270 I can't believe what a treasure that was. 2350 01:31:11.090 --> 01:31:11.770 To find this one. 2351 01:31:11.789 --> 01:31:14.640 Yeah, I love that. Okay, someone's going to need to 2352 01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:15.840 send me that, obviously. 2353 01:31:15.899 --> 01:31:17.800 Oh, I'll send it to you ASAP. 2354 01:31:17.819 --> 01:31:20.310 Speaking of cute little angels, do you want to see 2355 01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:21.329

something cute? 2356 01:31:21.750 --> 01:31:23.270 Is it Fizzy doing Fizzy things? 2357 01:31:23.489 --> 01:31:26.329 Yeah. Hold on, I'll just send it to you. 2358 01:31:26.569 --> 01:31:31.869 You're making all kinds of noises. 2359 01:31:31.909 --> 01:31:34.909 I know. 2360 01:31:35.449 --> 01:31:35.789 Oh, no. 2361 01:31:41.500 --> 01:31:46.010 Oh, my God. What a sweet boy. 2362 01:31:48.090 --> 01:31:49.569 He's such a nice boy. 2363 01:31:49.630 --> 01:31:52.270 Those first noises in this little pizza cutter. 2364 01:31:52.289 --> 01:31:54.529 Yeah. Pizza slice. 2365 01:31:54.569 --> 01:31:57.880 Pizza slice. Oh, he's so beautiful. 2366 01:31:57.909 --> 01:32:00.340 He's so cute. I really wish he lived a little 2367 01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:01.189 closer to me. 2368 01:32:01.220 --> 01:32:01.380 Yeah. 2369 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:03.520 So I could hold him and. 2370 01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:04.380 Squish him more. 2371 01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:05.439 Yeah. 2372 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:09.890 He's just so, so cute. I'm going to say something complicated. 2373 01:32:09.909 --> 01:32:10.470 Oh, great. 2374 01:32:10.529 --> 01:32:13.449 Complex, complicated, confusing. 2375 01:32:14.310 --> 01:32:14.729 Sure. 2376 01:32:14.750 --> 01:32:17.739 So, yeah, I got this really cute video of Fizzy. 2377 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:20.020 And I was just like watching it over and over. 2378 01:32:20.060 --> 01:32:24.970 And I was like, oh, this little baby. I love him. And, 2379 01:32:24.989 --> 01:32:26.770 you know, then, of course, when you're looking at these videos, 2380 01:32:26.789 --> 01:32:28.829 you're like, oh, like, I want one of those. 2381 01:32:28.890 --> 01:32:29.130 Yeah, yeah. 2382 01:32:29.630 --> 01:32:32.350 But then, you know, so I did a photo shoot 2383 01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:33.779 yesterday morning. 2384 01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:35.279 Oh, Sunday photo shoot. Mm-hmm. 2385 01:32:35.300 --> 01:32:37.619 It was at my house. And we were doing hair 2386 01:32:37.680 --> 01:32:41.079 and makeup. And no one there has kids. Me, the 2387 01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:42.979 hair and the makeup. No one has kids there. 2388 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:43.699 Yeah. 2389 01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:47.100 And my hair, Barb, I'm going to shout her out, Barb. 2390 01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:47.430 Yeah. 2391 01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:51.210 She's the best. Barb does hair. And I FaceTimed Sally. 2392 01:32:51.229 --> 01:32:51.310 Okay. 2393 01:32:52.149 --> 01:32:53.829 We're both good friends with Sally. And we had to 2394 01:32:53.869 --> 01:32:55.590 ask her. We FaceTimed her. And she was in the 2395 01:32:55.670 --> 01:33:00.800 middle of playing a game, playing Monopoly with her son. 2396 01:33:00.810 --> 01:33:01.380 Uh-huh. 2397 01:33:02.180 --> 01:33:04.039 And, you know, we were saying hi to her son. 2398 01:33:04.060 --> 01:33:06.359 And then her daughter came in. And, of course, they're just, like, 2399 01:33:06.500 --> 01:33:10.600 all so sweet and cute. And then she had.

2400 01:33:10.619 --> 01:33:12.479 Weirdly met them. Yeah, exactly. At the park. 2401 01:33:12.500 --> 01:33:12.960 That's right. 2402 01:33:13.460 --> 01:33:17.109 And she had to go to take. one of them 2403 01:33:17.149 --> 01:33:19.590 to a birthday party at the American Girl store, whatever. 2404 01:33:19.609 --> 01:33:22.289 We got off. About 30 minutes later, I said, I 2405 01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:27.380 feel bad saying this, but I have to. I'm so 2406 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:31.229 glad I'm not playing Monopoly with a kid right now 2407 01:33:31.270 --> 01:33:33.909 and having to drive to the American Girl store. Like, 2408 01:33:34.010 --> 01:33:37.310 I really had, like, a real, like, I'm really glad 2409 01:33:37.369 --> 01:33:38.470 that's not my day. 2410 01:33:38.630 --> 01:33:39.729 Yes. Yes. 2411 01:33:39.810 --> 01:33:43.449 And it was off the heels of just seeing this 2412 01:33:43.529 --> 01:33:46.020 little tiny baby that I was like, oh, no. 2413 01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:46.619 Baby fever. 2414 01:33:47.020 --> 01:33:47.520 Yeah. 2415 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:49.880 And it was very confusing. 2416 01:33:50.699 --> 01:33:55.100 It is confusing. I should leave it with the latter conclusion. 2417 01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:56.300 I don't know what to do. 2418 01:33:56.300 --> 01:33:59.670 Because I will say. Yeah. Yeah. We went— when Kristen was 2419 01:33:59.729 --> 01:34:02.729 probably eight months pregnant, we went out to eat with 2420 01:34:03.649 --> 01:34:08.060 Ryan and Amy and Crosby and Millie. They were both born. Yeah. 2421 01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:11.100 And it was an untenable dinner. It couldn't be had. 2422 01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:13.199 And it was at Big Boys where you're invited to 2423 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:16.439 be quite rowdy. But even— it was too much for even 2424 01:34:16.539 --> 01:34:17.800 the back room at Big Boys. 2425 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:18.020 Yeah. 2426 01:34:18.699 --> 01:34:20.460 And I remember leaving there in a bit of a 2427 01:34:20.500 --> 01:34:22.720 panic because Kristen's about to give birth. 2428 01:34:23.180 --> 01:34:23.479 Yeah. 2429 01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:25.270 And we're going to be in the same situation where 2430 01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:26.569 it's like we can't even get through a meal at 2431 01:34:26.590 --> 01:34:31.600 Big Boys. And— Lo and behold, when it's your kid. 2432 01:34:31.619 --> 01:34:32.399 Of course. 2433 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:37.079 It's something magic happens where it's like, yeah, I don't 2434 01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:40.199 want to be playing Monopoly with someone else's kid. Like, 2435 01:34:40.220 --> 01:34:42.020 that doesn't sound very appealing to me at all. 2436 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:45.539 It's, yeah, it's deeper than that. It's deeper than, like, 2437 01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.199 I don't want to be playing with the kid. It 2438 01:34:48.229 --> 01:34:50.770 was just like, like, it had nothing to do with 2439 01:34:50.810 --> 01:34:52.210 her children. They're

great, right? 2440 01:34:52.229 --> 01:34:52.609 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2441 01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:56.600 It was just like I'm very glad that my day 2442 01:34:56.680 --> 01:34:57.279 is mine. 2443 01:34:57.460 --> 01:35:01.340 Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes a ton 2444 01:35:01.380 --> 01:35:01.680 of sense. 2445 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:04.380 It's strange. And then that night, or like at 5, 2446 01:35:04.380 --> 01:35:07.800 I went to a new place. Shout out. 2447 01:35:07.819 --> 01:35:10.010 Uh-oh. Can't buckle up for a new shout out. 2448 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:13.689 Hotel Lucille. It's in Silver Lake. It's a new hotel. 2449 01:35:14.170 --> 01:35:16.770 And they have a new restaurant in there. Very cute. 2450 01:35:17.890 --> 01:35:21.460 So Ana and I went there. And there was, I 2451 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:26.960 won't say who, but an actor there. And we were 2452 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.439 kind of confused because there was this actor, there was 2453 01:35:30.510 --> 01:35:32.390 another man, and then there was a lady, and there 2454 01:35:32.409 --> 01:35:37.069 was a baby there. And we couldn't figure out whose baby. 2455 01:35:37.090 --> 01:35:38.880 Was it the actor's baby or the other? 2456 01:35:38.939 --> 01:35:41.939 And the other man was holding the baby really like 2457 01:35:41.979 --> 01:35:45.500 it was his. But also the actor was also kind 2458 01:35:45.539 --> 01:35:46.819 of holding the baby like it was his. So I 2459 01:35:46.819 --> 01:35:47.199 was like, oh, maybe. 2460 01:35:47.229 --> 01:35:48.789 Maybe he was practicing for a role. 2461 01:35:48.850 --> 01:35:51.090 No, I was like, maybe these are two dads. 2462 01:35:51.109 --> 01:35:51.430 Okay, sure. 2463 01:35:51.449 --> 01:35:53.630 And then I was like, who's that lady? So there 2464 01:35:53.649 --> 01:35:55.909 was a lot of questions. But the baby was so cute. 2465 01:35:58.189 --> 01:35:58.439 Uh-huh. 2466 01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:01.479 And maybe one of the dads or uncles or friends 2467 01:36:01.539 --> 01:36:03.819 or something was standing up with the baby and, like, 2468 01:36:03.899 --> 01:36:07.640 holding it. Bouncy, bouncy. And the whole restaurant was, like, 2469 01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:12.859 drawn to this child and, like, staring. And it was so, so, 2470 01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:16.079 so cute. And it was just a confusing day. 2471 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.960 Sure. Yeah, yeah. Compounded by flies. 2472 01:36:20.340 --> 01:36:22.829 Well, now— Okay. 2473 01:36:23.170 --> 01:36:23.430 Uh-oh. 2474 01:36:23.689 --> 01:36:26.810 I have really... Well, yes. My flies are here, officially, 2475 01:36:26.850 --> 01:36:27.390 thank God. 2476 01:36:27.510 --> 01:36:27.609 Okay. 2477 01:36:27.949 --> 01:36:31.890 Because there was some fake-outs on Friday. There was blood. 2478 01:36:31.909 --> 01:36:31.989 Okay. 2479 01:36:32.050 --> 01:36:34.670 So I was like, oh, great, we're starting. 2480 01:36:34.750 --> 01:36:34.949 Yeah. 2481 01:36:35.090 -->

01:36:38.560 And then nothing on Saturday or Sunday. 2482 01:36:38.579 --> 01:36:39.319 Oh, my goodness. 2483 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:42.939 And then I was like, ugh. But then today, it's 2484 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:43.960 a rifle force. 2485 01:36:44.180 --> 01:36:44.720 Full flow. 2486 01:36:45.420 --> 01:36:45.800 Yes. 2487 01:36:46.899 --> 01:36:47.159 But. 2488 01:36:48.869 --> 01:36:51.170 I don't know what's going on with my Instagram. Adam Mosseri, 2489 01:36:51.250 --> 01:36:52.949 if you are listening, please help me. 2490 01:36:53.260 --> 01:36:53.819 What's going on? 2491 01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:57.539 On my DMs. So I only have it set to 2492 01:36:57.659 --> 01:36:58.729 I see primary. 2493 01:36:58.739 --> 01:36:59.090 Yeah. 2494 01:36:59.329 --> 01:37:02.810 So I only see who I follow. DMS, right? Something's 2495 01:37:02.909 --> 01:37:06.520 glitching and people's DMS are coming in about like five 2496 01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:09.960 of them are coming in for people. I do not follow. 2497 01:37:10.779 --> 01:37:12.859 And you see the top where it goes primary or general. 2498 01:37:12.960 --> 01:37:15.180 You're sure you're not in general. Yeah, but I didn't 2499 01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.260 mean to insult you. You never know. 2500 01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:18.260 Mine's doing that too. 2501 01:37:19.060 --> 01:37:20.250 What's going on? 2502 01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:20.899 Oh, wow. 2503 01:37:21.060 --> 01:37:22.380 There's been a breach of security. 2504 01:37:22.619 --> 01:37:24.859 Did you want to ask Rob if he's checked primary 2505 01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:25.340 in general? 2506 01:37:25.779 --> 01:37:27.159 Well, you feel insulted by that. 2507 01:37:27.220 --> 01:37:27.520 I just. 2508 01:37:27.600 --> 01:37:29.340 I was trying to work through the things that have 2509 01:37:29.380 --> 01:37:30.420 plagued me in the past. 2510 01:37:30.460 --> 01:37:33.920 I know, but I told you that I follow primary, 2511 01:37:33.979 --> 01:37:35.600 so I've clearly looked at that. 2512 01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:38.119 Well, that did make me know that you know the difference. 2513 01:37:38.220 --> 01:37:38.779 Okay, good. 2514 01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:39.899 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2515 01:37:39.920 --> 01:37:40.520 Sorry I asked. 2516 01:37:40.779 --> 01:37:43.159 I check it a lot, and I keep checking it 2517 01:37:43.180 --> 01:37:46.159 because I'm like, what is happening? I've refreshed it. I 2518 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:46.840 don't know what's going on. 2519 01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:48.760 Have you read any, though? Is the universe selecting? 2520 01:37:48.779 --> 01:37:49.720 That's what I'm about to say. 2521 01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:50.119 Okay. 2522 01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:52.699 So I don't want to, right? 2523 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:53.000 I don't. 2524 01:37:53.020 --> 01:37:55.930 And then I'm also then telling Instagram. Give me more 2525 01:37:55.970 --> 01:37:56.189 of these. 2526 01:37:56.350 --> 01:37:57.010 That's true. 2527 01:37:57.090 --> 01:37:58.689 So I haven't been looking at them. 2528 01:37:58.810 --> 01:37:59.130 Yes. 2529 01:37:59.270 --> 01:38:02.789 But then today I got one and I, you know, 2530 01:38:02.810 --> 01:38:04.369 you can see the first couple words. 2531 01:38:04.510 --> 01:38:05.310 Uh-huh. Sure. 2532 01:38:05.369 --> 01:38:09.550 So it said itchy ear canals. 2533 01:38:10.189 --> 01:38:12.649 Okay. And now you're like, this could be a great tip. 2534 01:38:12.770 --> 01:38:13.170 Yes. 2535 01:38:13.369 --> 01:38:13.640 Yeah. 2536 01:38:13.949 --> 01:38:17.409 So I opened it and it said itchy ear canals 2537 01:38:17.619 --> 01:38:19.199 are a symptom of perimenopause. 2538 01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:22.659 Well, first of all, that person also commented. I read 2539 01:38:22.699 --> 01:38:23.319 that comment. 2540 01:38:23.710 --> 01:38:24.289 Oh, great. 2541 01:38:24.329 --> 01:38:27.199 They're hitting it from all angles, which is great. Unless 2542 01:38:27.239 --> 01:38:28.039 it's two different people. 2543 01:38:28.060 --> 01:38:32.600 I don't know. I just was like, fuck. Okay, so 2544 01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:34.020 I am in it. 2545 01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:37.090 But what's tricky is I have a really itchy ear condition, 2546 01:38:37.149 --> 01:38:40.720 but mine's from... Psoriatic arthritis, right? So I have to 2547 01:38:40.779 --> 01:38:43.479 put this... It's not a steroidal, but it acts like 2548 01:38:43.579 --> 01:38:45.199 a steroidal does. I have to put it around a 2549 01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:47.319 Q-tip and then do the inside of my ears because 2550 01:38:47.390 --> 01:38:51.189 I'll be plagued with crazy itchiness from psoriasis is in 2551 01:38:51.229 --> 01:38:51.710 my ears. 2552 01:38:51.989 --> 01:38:53.649 Yeah, but I don't have that. 2553 01:38:53.689 --> 01:38:56.510 You don't have psoriasis. I'm only saying... It. 2554 01:38:56.489 --> 01:38:58.409 Could be something else is what you're saying, which it 2555 01:38:59.380 --> 01:39:00.579 could be. It just. 2556 01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:02.020 It feels right. 2557 01:39:02.079 --> 01:39:05.109 Now that they said that and I am 39 years old, like.... 2558 01:39:07.140 --> 01:39:08.420 And it hits Indians earlier. 2559 01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:09.899 We found out. Yes, that Mary Claire. 2560 01:39:09.920 --> 01:39:11.899 Because I think you're still young for it. 2561 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:13.189 Yeah. 2562 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.149 I mean, I think for Americans, I'd be a bit 2563 01:39:16.210 --> 01:39:20.890 young generally. But since she said that and my mom 2564 01:39:20.909 --> 01:39:24.430 hit menopause when she was 50. And it's a 10-year thing. 2565 01:39:24.489 --> 01:39:26.689 It's 11 years. Yeah, but this is a 10-year thing. 2566 01:39:26.829 --> 01:39:27.090 Okay. 2567 01:39:27.649 --> 01:39:32.069 So that is annoying if that's true, that that's why 2568 01:39:32.090 --> 01:39:32.880 I have it. 2569 01:39:32.970 --> 01:39:35.090 Okay. So you're going to go get your hormone levels

checked? 2570 01:39:35.149 --> 01:39:35.989 I think so. 2571 01:39:36.010 --> 01:39:36.479 Yeah, why not? 2572 01:39:36.630 --> 01:39:38.350 I think it's making me feel like I need to 2573 01:39:38.449 --> 01:39:45.329 do that. But then it did feel a little like, oh, God, 2574 01:39:45.390 --> 01:39:48.989 this timeline. Everything's happening. 2575 01:39:49.010 --> 01:39:50.329 It's scary. 2576 01:39:50.729 --> 01:39:52.630 The timeline of menopause? Yeah. 2577 01:39:52.970 --> 01:39:56.029 Menopause, babies, my eggs dying off. 2578 01:39:56.050 --> 01:39:56.449 Aging. 2579 01:39:56.949 --> 01:39:59.079 Aging, but specifically tied to children. 2580 01:39:59.100 --> 01:39:59.619 Mm-hmm. 2581 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.899 And coming off of these babies, but then these kids 2582 01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:05.779 playing Monopoly. It was just a lot. 2583 01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:06.539 Yeah. 2584 01:40:07.260 --> 01:40:08.909 So I don't really know where I land, but that's 2585 01:40:08.949 --> 01:40:10.350 just what I've been thinking about. 2586 01:40:10.470 --> 01:40:11.390 Sure, sure, sure, sure. 2587 01:40:11.770 --> 01:40:14.229 And then, yeah, I do think I want to get 2588 01:40:14.289 --> 01:40:15.449 some sort of ointment. 2589 01:40:15.630 --> 01:40:18.270 Yeah, you should put an anti-itch in there. 2590 01:40:18.409 --> 01:40:18.529 Yeah. 2591 01:40:19.649 --> 01:40:20.409 It's so itchy. 2592 01:40:20.609 --> 01:40:24.020 I just read a post. Again, these posts present a science, 2593 01:40:24.380 --> 01:40:26.479 and they all say they have a study behind them, 2594 01:40:26.500 --> 01:40:28.659 but I don't chase down the study. Yeah. And then 2595 01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:30.659 it just gets in your head as fact. But the 2596 01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.060 one I read, the post was about the power of 2597 01:40:33.100 --> 01:40:35.479 the inside of a banana peel, that it is a 2598 01:40:35.539 --> 01:40:39.319 natural histamine reducer. So you can put it on. It's 2599 01:40:39.340 --> 01:40:41.380 saying you can put it on like mosquito bites, and 2600 01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.359 it'll get rid of like 90% of the histamine reaction. 2601 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:43.720 Really? 2602 01:40:44.819 --> 01:40:47.949 And they even said that it's effective on warts, so 2603 01:40:47.989 --> 01:40:49.189 this really high percentage. 2604 01:40:49.210 --> 01:40:50.670 Interesting. 2605 01:40:51.050 --> 01:40:52.989 So maybe cram a banana peel in your ear and 2606 01:40:53.010 --> 01:40:54.550 see what happens. 2607 01:40:55.010 --> 01:40:56.550 Well, that's the other thing. As we've talked about, there's 2608 01:40:56.590 --> 01:40:58.890 so many mosquitoes. Like, what if I just have a 2609 01:40:58.909 --> 01:41:01.630 couple mosquito bites in there? I mean, circling back to 2610 01:41:01.649 --> 01:41:04.460 the original, there's a bug in my ear. Yeah, yeah. 2611 01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:05.319 Wow. 2612 01:41:05.579 --> 01:41:06.000 Okay. 2613 01:41:06.060

--> 01:41:07.039 Well, I'll try. 2614 01:41:07.060 --> 01:41:08.760 Well, how did you feel? I hung out with you 2615 01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:10.640 on Friday night, and you were in a real chipper mood. 2616 01:41:10.859 --> 01:41:10.979 Okay. 2617 01:41:14.770 --> 01:41:16.170 I'm allowed to be in a. 2618 01:41:16.250 --> 01:41:18.369 Little bit of funk. I wasn't saying you are. I 2619 01:41:18.409 --> 01:41:20.229 was just saying I hung out with you Friday and 2620 01:41:20.270 --> 01:41:22.590 you were in a super chipper mood. That was a 2621 01:41:22.609 --> 01:41:23.069 fun night. 2622 01:41:23.430 --> 01:41:24.840 Don't gaslight me. 2623 01:41:25.069 --> 01:41:25.569 I'm not. 2624 01:41:25.609 --> 01:41:26.600 What do you think I'm saying? 2625 01:41:26.649 --> 01:41:27.779 I don't know what you're saying. 2626 01:41:27.859 --> 01:41:29.760 I'm saying we had fun Friday night. You were in 2627 01:41:29.779 --> 01:41:30.819 a very giggly mood. 2628 01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:32.800 Oh, you just want to talk about Friday night? 2629 01:41:32.819 --> 01:41:33.979 Yes. Oh, I see. 2630 01:41:34.020 --> 01:41:38.069 Okay. Yeah, it was fun. I thought you were saying 2631 01:41:38.529 --> 01:41:41.609 things have changed since Friday, which I do think you 2632 01:41:41.649 --> 01:41:42.109 were saying. 2633 01:41:42.149 --> 01:41:42.779 I wasn't. Okay. 2634 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:44.520 Okay. I believe you. No, I'm just trying to get 2635 01:41:44.579 --> 01:41:46.359 us to the next piece of content, which I feel 2636 01:41:46.380 --> 01:41:47.899 like is watching that movie. And that was kind of 2637 01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:50.479 funny that I thought the surround system was so good 2638 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.220 that I thought you were making weird screaming noises. 2639 01:41:53.300 --> 01:41:54.140 You were watching? 2640 01:41:54.220 --> 01:41:55.279 Violent Night Part 2. 2641 01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:56.930 Yes. Kristen's movie coming out. 2642 01:41:57.029 --> 01:41:57.449 Yes. 2643 01:41:57.489 --> 01:41:58.850 We got a sneak peek. 2644 01:41:58.890 --> 01:41:59.170 Yes. 2645 01:41:59.189 --> 01:42:02.289 We're watching in your movie theater. And the sound. 2646 01:42:02.609 --> 01:42:05.250 You were on the very far right of the room 2647 01:42:05.310 --> 01:42:06.630 and I was to the left. 2648 01:42:06.710 --> 01:42:06.989 Yeah. 2649 01:42:07.659 --> 01:42:09.899 Yeah. And you're right next to a surround speaker. 2650 01:42:10.279 --> 01:42:10.600 Yeah. 2651 01:42:10.649 --> 01:42:11.390 And I just hear like. 2652 01:42:12.649 --> 01:42:14.470 It was really loud. 2653 01:42:14.489 --> 01:42:17.579 Yeah. And I was like, wow, Monica's going for it. 2654 01:42:17.609 --> 01:42:21.840 Like she's feeling so tantrumy or something like she can't. 2655 01:42:23.100 --> 01:42:26.039 She's feeling unbridled. And it was really fun to think 2656 01:42:26.060 --> 01:42:27.579 you were over there just making a ton of noises, 2657 01:42:27.859 --> 01:42:28.960 like baby noises. 2658 01:42:28.979 --> 01:42:32.140 Yeah, there was like some baby laughter or something. 2659 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:33.119 Some weird noise. 2660 01:42:33.140 --> 01:42:34.720 Anyway, it wasn't me. It was the movie. 2661 01:42:34.739 --> 01:42:37.180 But Lincoln also thought it was you, which was great, right? 2662 01:42:37.199 --> 01:42:40.039 Because she was between you and I. And she too 2663 01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:41.479 thought you were just starting to pop off. 2664 01:42:41.579 --> 01:42:44.340 I do have a question about that. So I don't 2665 01:42:45.420 --> 01:42:52.000 surround sound is a little, I think it's weird for me. 2666 01:42:52.340 --> 01:42:52.859 Tell me more. 2667 01:42:53.350 --> 01:42:57.699 I think my brain doesn't like it. Yeah. Because also 2668 01:42:57.739 --> 01:43:02.279 at the beginning of the movie, I couldn't understand anything. 2669 01:43:02.300 --> 01:43:02.840 Uh-huh. 2670 01:43:03.229 --> 01:43:06.300 And I didn't know... If it was, you know, the 2671 01:43:06.310 --> 01:43:08.840 bugs in my ear, now I know perimenopause. 2672 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:09.680 Yeah. 2673 01:43:09.779 --> 01:43:11.899 Or it was like sound mixing. I didn't know what 2674 01:43:11.939 --> 01:43:12.779 was going on, right? 2675 01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:14.819 Yeah, yeah. We don't even know if we're watching a 2676 01:43:14.899 --> 01:43:17.140 final mix. Exactly. The movie doesn't come out for months. 2677 01:43:17.180 --> 01:43:18.939 That's what I kind of wanted to ask, but then 2678 01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:20.960 I felt scared to ask in case. 2679 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:23.340 It was implying the quality wasn't good? Correct. Yeah. 2680 01:43:23.500 --> 01:43:26.640 So then I go, am I the only, and then 2681 01:43:26.699 --> 01:43:30.720 I stop, right? Because I felt, yeah. And then Lincoln 2682 01:43:30.739 --> 01:43:34.029 looked over, and I was like, I feel I can't 2683 01:43:34.109 --> 01:43:35.850 understand what they're saying. 2684 01:43:36.229 --> 01:43:36.939 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2685 01:43:37.229 --> 01:43:39.439 And she was like, oh, he said, and she just 2686 01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:42.520 said exactly, she didn't have any problems. 2687 01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:44.180 Well, right, they have those young ears. 2688 01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:44.800 Yes. 2689 01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:47.239 And she can hear lyrics. Like, she's also just good 2690 01:43:47.260 --> 01:43:48.939 at parsing out. 2691 01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:51.880 And she watches a lot in that zone. 2692 01:43:51.979 --> 01:43:52.279 Sure. 2693 01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:55.430 So then I was like, oh, no, it is me. 2694 01:43:55.789 --> 01:43:56.369 This is bad. 2695 01:43:56.390 --> 01:44:01.109 Well, no, several things. A, common complaint. I think everyone agrees. 2696 01:44:01.390 --> 01:44:03.970 They do not mix the dialogue loud enough. The dialogue's 2697 01:44:04.010 --> 01:44:06.069 coming out of the center channel because you're

looking at 2698 01:44:06.109 --> 01:44:09.609 the person, so the sound would be emanating from in 2699 01:44:09.670 --> 01:44:12.810 front of you. Unless someone behind you is talking, that's 2700 01:44:12.850 --> 01:44:14.439 when it would come through the surround. 2701 01:44:14.819 --> 01:44:15.640 Uh-huh. 2702 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:18.060 Right? As whatever point of view the lens is. 2703 01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:18.680 Right. 2704 01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:21.479 If a helicopter's approaching from behind the characters, you're going 2705 01:44:21.500 --> 01:44:23.279 to hear it there. Yeah. The goal is to give 2706 01:44:23.300 --> 01:44:27.640 you a sense of the 360-degree sound. But you happen 2707 01:44:27.659 --> 01:44:29.920 to be seated directly next to the surround speaker. 2708 01:44:30.060 --> 01:44:30.479 Yeah. 2709 01:44:30.500 --> 01:44:32.079 So you're going to be hearing it louder than all 2710 01:44:32.100 --> 01:44:32.439 of us. 2711 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:34.380 Interesting, yeah. 2712 01:44:34.539 --> 01:44:35.989 Just because you're closest to it. 2713 01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:36.760 Right. 2714 01:44:36.779 --> 01:44:39.840 So probably for you, the mix was A, not good. Yeah. 2715 01:44:40.180 --> 01:44:43.010 Then B, they just in general do not mix dialogue 2716 01:44:43.050 --> 01:44:45.239 high enough. I can't tell. I was riding that. Did 2717 01:44:45.270 --> 01:44:47.930 you see me riding the volume like a rented mule? 2718 01:44:47.970 --> 01:44:49.489 Every time they were talking, I had to go up. 2719 01:44:49.529 --> 01:44:51.170 And then every time an action sequence started, I had 2720 01:44:51.189 --> 01:44:53.229 to go down because it would be overwhelming. And that, 2721 01:44:53.350 --> 01:44:55.029 I feel like, is so standard in movies. 2722 01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:58.750 Huh, yeah. I don't notice it in the movie theater, 2723 01:44:58.789 --> 01:44:59.130 I don't think. 2724 01:44:59.149 --> 01:44:59.909 You don't? 2725 01:45:00.029 --> 01:45:00.850 But maybe because it's such. 2726 01:45:01.050 --> 01:45:01.529 I don't know. 2727 01:45:01.630 --> 01:45:03.850 They go loud as fuck in the movie theater, too. 2728 01:45:03.949 --> 01:45:04.390 Yeah, yeah. 2729 01:45:04.430 --> 01:45:05.170 Just in general. 2730 01:45:05.189 --> 01:45:08.210 But I checked with Anna. She also couldn't understand anything, 2731 01:45:08.310 --> 01:45:11.010 and she thought maybe it was just because... Her accent. 2732 01:45:11.350 --> 01:45:14.170 Oh, and also there's often the little boy talking. I 2733 01:45:14.289 --> 01:45:15.569 couldn't hear what he was saying. 2734 01:45:15.590 --> 01:45:17.600 It was a sequence in the car. I was like, 2735 01:45:17.739 --> 01:45:19.899 I don't know anything that just happened. 2736 01:45:20.020 --> 01:45:20.220 Right. 2737 01:45:20.239 --> 01:45:26.960 So I got nervous. But anyway, it wasn't me participating, laughing, screaming, whatever. 2738 01:45:27.460 --> 01:45:28.850 It was just the movie itself. 2739 01:45:28.890 --> 01:45:31.250 Yeah, but it was so fun to think about it. 2740 01:45:31.550 --> 01:45:33.970 And then we had a really good laugh at the 2741 01:45:34.029 --> 01:45:34.770 notion of you. 2742 01:45:34.949 --> 01:45:35.890 It would have been great. 2743 01:45:35.970 --> 01:45:38.430 Yeah. Next time, just start doing that, maybe. 2744 01:45:38.569 --> 01:45:38.850 Okay. 2745 01:45:38.970 --> 01:45:39.149 Okay. 2746 01:45:41.159 --> 01:45:45.840 Stay tuned for more Armchair Expert, if you dare. 2747 01:45:53.869 --> 01:45:55.770 I have a couple sim moments I want to talk about. 2748 01:45:55.829 --> 01:45:56.149 Oh, great. 2749 01:45:56.189 --> 01:45:58.369 That are huge. One has to do with you. 2750 01:45:58.390 --> 01:45:59.210 Oh, good. 2751 01:45:59.579 --> 01:46:02.619 So for a couple weeks or a month or something, 2752 01:46:02.859 --> 01:46:06.350 you brought up a couple times that there is a 2753 01:46:06.470 --> 01:46:10.189 place in Nashville called Lebanon. 2754 01:46:10.470 --> 01:46:10.770 Oh, yeah. 2755 01:46:10.789 --> 01:46:11.810 Spelled Lebanon. 2756 01:46:12.010 --> 01:46:12.289 Yes. 2757 01:46:12.369 --> 01:46:12.939 And you brought this up. 2758 01:46:12.949 --> 01:46:14.109 Next town over for me. 2759 01:46:14.250 --> 01:46:16.189 You brought this up a couple times. It's like it's 2760 01:46:16.250 --> 01:46:18.970 funny because it's spelled Lebanon, but they pronounce it Lebanon. 2761 01:46:19.130 --> 01:46:19.350 Yeah. 2762 01:46:19.369 --> 01:46:19.569 Great. 2763 01:46:20.350 --> 01:46:26.819 I had to send, unfortunately, some sympathy flowers and to 2764 01:46:26.880 --> 01:46:27.939 my friend's mother. 2765 01:46:28.180 --> 01:46:28.380 Okay. 2766 01:46:28.659 --> 01:46:29.819 And they live in Tennessee. 2767 01:46:29.840 --> 01:46:30.439 Uh-huh. 2768 01:46:30.779 --> 01:46:31.020 Okay. 2769 01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:34.060 And I couldn't get them there. And it was like 2770 01:46:34.100 --> 01:46:37.529 a whole thing. And so I had to ask my 2771 01:46:37.630 --> 01:46:42.520 friend for help. And she was like, well, you can 2772 01:46:42.579 --> 01:46:47.020 always send it to, okay, my friend's grandfather passed away. 2773 01:46:47.199 --> 01:46:47.420 Okay. 2774 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:48.859 So she was like, you can always send it to 2775 01:46:48.979 --> 01:46:52.510 his house. My mom is going to be there next week. 2776 01:46:52.529 --> 01:46:53.210 Yeah, yeah. 2777 01:46:53.449 --> 01:46:55.630 And I was like, okay, I'll do that. And she 2778 01:46:55.649 --> 01:46:58.149 sent the address. And it was. 2779 01:46:58.189 --> 01:46:58.630 Lebanon. 2780 01:46:59.010 --> 01:47:00.909 Lebanon Road. 2781 01:47:01.270 --> 01:47:01.890 Yeah, sure. 2782 01:47:02.470 --> 01:47:05.869 And in Old Hickory, Mount Juliet. 2783 01:47:06.550 --> 01:47:07.270 Oh, really? 2784 01:47:07.289 --> 01:47:07.409 Yeah. 2785 01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:11.159 Wow. I know. So a neighbor. I know. 2786 01:47:11.220 -->

01:47:13.920 And I feel like she once told me that, like, 2787 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.899 that's where Papa's from. But I didn't, or like, that's 2788 01:47:16.920 --> 01:47:19.800 where Papa lives. And I didn't really put it together. 2789 01:47:19.819 --> 01:47:21.380 But when I was seeing it all written out, it 2790 01:47:21.420 --> 01:47:25.180 was so weird. It was like, whoa, yeah, really, it's 2791 01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:26.060 the same place. 2792 01:47:26.510 --> 01:47:30.689 And Rob's friend Hanford also lives in Mount Juliet. I 2793 01:47:30.689 --> 01:47:33.000 almost said Lebanon. But, yeah, I believe Mount Juliet Road 2794 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:35.239 turns into Lebanon Road. Wow. 2795 01:47:35.260 --> 01:47:37.020 I know. Isn't that so crazy? 2796 01:47:37.050 --> 01:47:40.689 I moved to secretly the hippest place in Nashville. 2797 01:47:40.909 --> 01:47:41.970 Where Pawpaw lives. 2798 01:47:42.010 --> 01:47:43.710 Where Pawpaw lives. 2799 01:47:44.390 --> 01:47:50.170 Isn't that so strange? Like, Pawpaw, who I've known since 2800 01:47:50.670 --> 01:47:55.510 I was 13, 14— Isn't that weird though? It's like 2801 01:47:55.609 --> 01:47:58.819 Papa came there and then you came there. 2802 01:47:59.359 --> 01:47:59.920 Weird. 2803 01:47:59.960 --> 01:48:00.800 And I'm in the middle. 2804 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:02.100 So that was Sim number one. 2805 01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:05.439 Yeah, that was Sim. Okay, another Sim. Crazy. 2806 01:48:05.699 --> 01:48:07.220 Uh-oh. 2807 01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:08.300 I was at Kara. 2808 01:48:08.979 --> 01:48:09.239 Yeah. 2809 01:48:09.340 --> 01:48:17.289 And I randomly got like a craving slash just I 2810 01:48:17.369 --> 01:48:19.170 thought of chewy granola bars. 2811 01:48:19.329 --> 01:48:19.949 Do you remember? 2812 01:48:20.390 --> 01:48:20.930 Chewy? 2813 01:48:20.949 --> 01:48:21.890 Yeah, the brand. 2814 01:48:22.149 --> 01:48:22.510 Yes. 2815 01:48:22.569 --> 01:48:22.789 Yeah. 2816 01:48:23.109 --> 01:48:23.789 They're still around. 2817 01:48:24.210 --> 01:48:24.430 Okay. 2818 01:48:24.449 --> 01:48:28.800 Well, so I haven't thought about Chewy Granola Bars 45 years. 2819 01:48:28.979 --> 01:48:32.039 Okay. Since you were hanging with Papa. Uh-huh. Yeah. 2820 01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:34.640 A long, long, long time. I just don't think about them. 2821 01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:37.140 I never see them at the grocery. I don't know. 2822 01:48:37.960 --> 01:48:38.119 And. 2823 01:48:38.890 --> 01:48:41.399 For some reason, I thought to just ask Anthony. I 2824 01:48:41.409 --> 01:48:44.520 just texted Anthony. I said, do you remember chewy granola bars? 2825 01:48:44.779 --> 01:48:45.000 Yeah. 2826 01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:48.119 And he said, I just ate one five minutes ago. 2827 01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:50.000 Really? Well, he has children. 2828 01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:54.140 But just, but not even, the fact that I thought 2829 01:48:54.180 --> 01:48:56.270 and he just ate it and that I thought to 2830 01:48:56.310 --> 01:48:59.029 text him of all, like, just kind of randomly. 2831 01:48:59.130 --> 01:48:59.789 Yeah. 2832 01:49:00.890 --> 01:49:01.550 What? 2833 01:49:01.590 --> 01:49:02.970 Did he eat the chocolate chip one? 2834 01:49:03.310 --> 01:49:05.270 I didn't ask for, I bet that was the kind 2835 01:49:05.430 --> 01:49:05.789 I liked. 2836 01:49:05.829 --> 01:49:07.390 Yeah, I think everyone preferred those. 2837 01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:13.090 I just, what? And he wasn't as freaked out as me. 2838 01:49:13.109 --> 01:49:16.810 Because they've never left his purview, probably. 2839 01:49:16.829 --> 01:49:17.369 Yeah, exactly. 2840 01:49:17.390 --> 01:49:19.810 So for years, it had been gone for 40 years 2841 01:49:19.869 --> 01:49:20.210 or whatever. 2842 01:49:20.270 --> 01:49:21.090 I think my brain. 2843 01:49:21.130 --> 01:49:23.149 You're not even 40 years old, so not 40 years. 2844 01:49:23.609 --> 01:49:28.449 I think my brain must have known he, like, he 2845 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:28.949 had it. 2846 01:49:29.310 --> 01:49:31.600 That he had just enjoyed one. He sent out a 2847 01:49:31.619 --> 01:49:35.899 little pulse in the universe. That said, he's satisfied in 2848 01:49:35.930 --> 01:49:38.090 the way that only Chewies can satisfy him. It's a 2849 01:49:38.109 --> 01:49:41.029 very fingerprint-y signature. 2850 01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:44.609 But we lived together for a long time. I don't remember. 2851 01:49:44.829 --> 01:49:46.090 He wasn't gorging himself on Chewies. 2852 01:49:46.109 --> 01:49:46.970 I don't think so. 2853 01:49:47.109 --> 01:49:48.329 I think it's because he has kids. 2854 01:49:48.729 --> 01:49:50.689 Well, for sure. It makes sense why he has them 2855 01:49:50.710 --> 01:49:52.710 at his house, but it makes no sense that I 2856 01:49:52.750 --> 01:49:55.250 would have randomly thought of them and then he had 2857 01:49:55.289 --> 01:49:56.069 just eaten one. 2858 01:49:56.100 --> 01:49:56.960 Yeah. 2859 01:49:56.979 --> 01:49:58.000 It's so weird. 2860 01:49:58.079 --> 01:49:59.960 It's spooky. Just in time for Halloween. 2861 01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:03.180 That's what he said. He made it about Halloween and spookiness, 2862 01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:05.399 and I was like, no, this is about powers. 2863 01:50:05.600 --> 01:50:07.300 Okay, this is standalone. All right. 2864 01:50:07.359 --> 01:50:07.640 Yeah. Okay. 2865 01:50:08.850 --> 01:50:09.069 Um.... 2866 01:50:11.130 --> 01:50:12.489 So that was crazy. 2867 01:50:12.729 --> 01:50:14.170 Yeah. Who are you going to be for Halloween? 2868 01:50:14.750 --> 01:50:16.890 Who should I be? A chewy granola bar? 2869 01:50:17.310 --> 01:50:19.550 Sure. Chocolate chip? Chewy baka. 2870 01:50:20.770 --> 01:50:23.470 Oh, that's fun. But I don't think that's a cute 2871 01:50:23.569 --> 01:50:24.369 outfit for me. 2872 01:50:24.729 --> 01:50:27.810 Probably too hot given the trajectory. 2873 01:50:27.289 --> 01:50:27.770 We're on currently. 2874

01:50:27.789 --> 01:50:28.069 That's true. 2875 01:50:28.149 --> 01:50:30.050 Although next week it's supposed to be in the 70s. 2876 01:50:30.510 --> 01:50:34.729 Oh, well, it's been 100 or more for the last 2877 01:50:35.069 --> 01:50:35.890 four days straight. 2878 01:50:36.090 --> 01:50:36.970 It's been stifling. 2879 01:50:37.010 --> 01:50:37.729 It's been violent. 2880 01:50:37.970 --> 01:50:38.069 Yeah. 2881 01:50:38.090 --> 01:50:38.850 It's been aggressive. 2882 01:50:38.909 --> 01:50:39.800 It's been hostile. 2883 01:50:39.850 --> 01:50:40.399 Ding, ding, ding. 2884 01:50:41.149 --> 01:50:41.949 You can't leave the house. 2885 01:50:42.529 --> 01:50:43.470 I know, but I have. 2886 01:50:43.649 --> 01:50:44.409 You've been leaving the house. 2887 01:50:44.430 --> 01:50:45.430 And then I do get headaches. 2888 01:50:45.850 --> 01:50:47.729 Back to your kids playing Monopoly. 2889 01:50:47.750 --> 01:50:48.109 Uh-huh. 2890 01:50:48.350 --> 01:50:52.560 The thing I've had to— I' ve successfully reframed is there's a 2891 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:54.739 whole lot of driving your kids all over the place. 2892 01:50:55.020 --> 01:50:55.300 Yeah. 2893 01:50:55.479 --> 01:50:57.800 Which is never— I' m never in the mood to, like, get 2894 01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:00.529 up and go drive across town for any reason. 2895 01:51:00.550 --> 01:51:00.890 Uh-huh. 2896 01:51:01.180 --> 01:51:04.079 But I've really successfully reframed it where it's like, A, 2897 01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:07.060 I love driving. Yeah. B, it's an opportunity for me 2898 01:51:07.090 --> 01:51:09.750 to drive these cars I collect that otherwise I wouldn't drive. 2899 01:51:09.770 --> 01:51:10.149 Yeah. 2900 01:51:10.569 --> 01:51:13.710 And then B, I'm in with them, obviously. It's just 2901 01:51:13.729 --> 01:51:16.590 the two of us going somewhere. So I've been driving 2902 01:51:16.649 --> 01:51:19.170 a lot lately, and I've actually been enjoying it lately. 2903 01:51:19.189 --> 01:51:24.590 That's nice. Yeah. And one operation was to pick Delta 2904 01:51:24.609 --> 01:51:26.050 and her friend up at Target. 2905 01:51:26.369 --> 01:51:27.310 Okay. 2906 01:51:27.350 --> 01:51:29.829 What I love is Target is a comp for my 2907 01:51:29.890 --> 01:51:30.850 mall experience. 2908 01:51:30.869 --> 01:51:30.989 Right. 2909 01:51:31.390 --> 01:51:34.789 Like, she wants to be dropped off at Target. Yeah, yeah. 2910 01:51:35.010 --> 01:51:38.189 Which we did. Okay. And so I had to pick 2911 01:51:38.229 --> 01:51:40.630 her up at 510 in the parking lot, but I'm like, 2912 01:51:40.930 --> 01:51:43.250 I'm a half hour early. I wanted to buy fake cheese. 2913 01:51:43.270 --> 01:51:45.770 And I'm like, I'll just go up into Target and 2914 01:51:45.829 --> 01:51:46.550 sniff around. 2915 01:51:46.569 --> 01:51:46.649 Okay. 2916 01:51:47.090 --> 01:51:50.800 End up buying some Starbucks coffee pods that are butterscotch flavor. 2917 01:51:50.810 --> 01:51:50.979 Ooh. 2918 01:51:51.060 --> 01:51:51.640 Really nice. 2919 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:52.380 Oh, yum. 2920 01:51:52.489 --> 01:51:54.100 And then all this fake cheese. 2921 01:51:54.109 --> 01:51:54.560 Okay. 2922 01:51:54.979 --> 01:51:58.449 Trying to help Delta with her. goal of not eating 2923 01:51:58.489 --> 01:51:59.390 dairy because. 2924 01:51:59.229 --> 01:52:01.350 She has same congestion i do so what's. 2925 01:52:01.310 --> 01:52:03.850 She has quit eating dairy it's very impressive to see 2926 01:52:03.909 --> 01:52:08.250 an 11 year old self regulate and we we we 2927 01:52:08.270 --> 01:52:11.350 do a daily gratitude like less not today less coughing 2928 01:52:11.390 --> 01:52:13.550 yeah okay let's we gotta he's got to focus on 2929 01:52:13.569 --> 01:52:15.590 what the wins are when you quit shit because you 2930 01:52:15.630 --> 01:52:17.529 just forget that there's any anyways. 2931 01:52:17.569 --> 01:52:21.039 Vegan cheese Or like what's fake cheese? 2932 01:52:21.229 --> 01:52:22.899 I think it's all oil is what they make it 2933 01:52:22.939 --> 01:52:23.520 out of ultimately. 2934 01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:23.770 Right. 2935 01:52:23.779 --> 01:52:25.670 But it tastes good and it melts. Did you ever 2936 01:52:25.729 --> 01:52:28.270 have the badass breakfast sandwiches we used to get all 2937 01:52:28.289 --> 01:52:30.449 the time? Oh, yeah. Those were everything on that was fake. 2938 01:52:30.489 --> 01:52:32.090 The meat was fake. The cheese was fake. 2939 01:52:32.109 --> 01:52:33.029 I forgot about those. 2940 01:52:33.050 --> 01:52:34.170 Remember how delicious they were? 2941 01:52:34.189 --> 01:52:34.909 They were good, yeah. 2942 01:52:34.970 --> 01:52:38.829 That's what got me amenable to fake cheese. At any rate. 2943 01:52:39.630 --> 01:52:40.510 Okay, you went there. 2944 01:52:40.550 --> 01:52:43.550 I keep thinking I'm going to bump into them in 2945 01:52:43.829 --> 01:52:45.310 one of the aisles, but I'm not. So I've gone 2946 01:52:45.329 --> 01:52:47.470 through the whole store and then I got my shit 2947 01:52:47.489 --> 01:52:49.020 and I'm buying and I'm like, huh, I wonder where 2948 01:52:49.029 --> 01:52:50.899 they are. And then I look across and there's a 2949 01:52:50.920 --> 01:52:54.920 little cafe section behind the Starbucks inside Target. And I 2950 01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:56.600 just see the two of them at a table. 2951 01:52:56.739 --> 01:52:56.979 Yeah. 2952 01:52:57.699 --> 01:53:00.680 They're like playing with whatever slime they bought. Yeah. And 2953 01:53:00.699 --> 01:53:03.289 they're just, they're two girls hanging at the mall. 2954 01:53:03.550 --> 01:53:04.329 Oh, I love it. 2955 01:53:04.869 --> 01:53:07.649 And I got spotted by her friend. Sure. 2956 01:53:08.130 --> 01:53:08.909 Don't do your dad's here. 2957 01:53:09.109 --> 01:53:11.369 Yeah. And I was like, oh shit, I'm cramping her style. 2958 01:53:11.390 --> 01:53:13.850 This is fine. She wasn't bothered. I'm just telling you 2959 01:53:13.890

--> 01:53:15.960 that I saw my little girl from afar. 2960 01:53:16.140 --> 01:53:16.500 Yeah. 2961 01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:19.819 With her girlfriend at a little table. Having like a 2962 01:53:19.859 --> 01:53:20.560 girl's day. 2963 01:53:20.579 --> 01:53:23.539 So cute. Well, I thought it's funny because on Friday, 2964 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:25.420 the Friday we just spoke of. 2965 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:25.800 Yeah. 2966 01:53:25.859 --> 01:53:28.899 When I came over to watch the movie, we all 2967 01:53:28.920 --> 01:53:32.239 had dinner and then we waited a minute because you 2968 01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:33.600 had to go pick up Lincoln. 2969 01:53:33.619 --> 01:53:33.699 Yeah. 2970 01:53:35.399 --> 01:53:37.880 From a hang at a restaurant. 2971 01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:38.579 Yes. 2972 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:41.479 And you left and I thought, I was like. God, 2973 01:53:41.789 --> 01:53:46.229 I like had this visual of you driving up and 2974 01:53:46.310 --> 01:53:50.310 picking up your daughter from a hang. And it was so, 2975 01:53:50.329 --> 01:53:53.770 it was like, it's so cute. And it's so, I 2976 01:53:54.630 --> 01:53:58.039 like know the feeling so well. My dad dropping me 2977 01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:00.239 off and picking me up at the, yeah, the mall 2978 01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:03.340 or the movies or any of these things. And like, 2979 01:54:03.659 --> 01:54:07.060 you're him, like you're a dad that picks up their 2980 01:54:07.119 --> 01:54:10.789 kids from hangs. It's so strange. 2981 01:54:11.050 --> 01:54:13.109 And I'm trying to really enjoy it. And I'm successfully, 2982 01:54:13.130 --> 01:54:15.189 I've just currently started really, really enjoying it. 2983 01:54:15.310 --> 01:54:16.550 That's very good. 2984 01:54:16.649 --> 01:54:17.810 I floated the whole ride home. 2985 01:54:17.829 --> 01:54:23.229 But yeah, there are just moments, you know, when to 2986 01:54:23.260 --> 01:54:27.260 get existential, but you know, like you can really, you know, 2987 01:54:27.340 --> 01:54:30.539 people in relation to you and you can of course 2988 01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:34.619 be empathetic and sympathetic and understand that there are other people, 2989 01:54:34.640 --> 01:54:37.399 they are themselves and their place in the world with 2990 01:54:37.420 --> 01:54:37.680 other people. 2991 01:54:37.699 --> 01:54:39.159 They exist without you, in a sense. 2992 01:54:39.729 --> 01:54:41.909 Yeah, but it's just very, like, then there are just 2993 01:54:42.029 --> 01:54:46.630 certain moments that click. They're fleeting, right? But, like, that 2994 01:54:46.670 --> 01:54:48.510 was a moment where I was like, yeah, he's just 2995 01:54:48.550 --> 01:54:49.689 someone's dad. 2996 01:54:49.989 --> 01:54:50.510 That's right. 2997 01:54:50.710 --> 01:54:52.170 Like, it's so, you're just like. 2998 01:54:52.210 --> 01:54:52.729 I'm Ashok. 2999 01:54:53.350 --> 01:54:55.649 Yeah, you're just someone's dad. 3000 01:54:55.710 --> 01:54:56.449

I'm her Ashok. 3001 01:54:57.149 --> 01:54:57.510 Yeah. 3002 01:54:57.850 --> 01:54:59.029 It's so wild. 3003 01:54:59.300 --> 01:55:02.859 I know, it's wild for me. I love it. You 3004 01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:04.600 know how you always, in life, you a little bit 3005 01:55:04.619 --> 01:55:07.949 feel like you're playing a character? Yeah. And I do. 3006 01:55:08.010 --> 01:55:10.659 I'm like, oh, I'm playing the character of a dad. Oh, 3007 01:55:10.659 --> 01:55:13.539 you feel that? Well, I'm just aware of exactly what 3008 01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:15.859 you're saying. Like, oh, I'm a middle-aged man picking up 3009 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:16.819 my teenage daughter. 3010 01:55:16.859 --> 01:55:17.319 Yeah. 3011 01:55:17.520 --> 01:55:19.659 That feels like a character I once knew about. 3012 01:55:19.930 --> 01:55:20.390 Right. 3013 01:55:20.649 --> 01:55:21.949 But now I'm that character. 3014 01:55:21.970 --> 01:55:22.529 I know. 3015 01:55:22.569 --> 01:55:26.850 And so you have this awareness of Exactly what you're saying. Like, 3016 01:55:27.069 --> 01:55:28.949 I know what I look like. I look like a 3017 01:55:28.989 --> 01:55:32.449 middle-aged man picking up his daughter or daughters. 3018 01:55:32.760 --> 01:55:33.239 Yeah. 3019 01:55:33.500 --> 01:55:35.260 And I don't know. I'm just aware of what that 3020 01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:38.229 looks like. I have some level of self-awareness of it. 3021 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:41.520 And then just obviously the intrinsic feeling of it all. 3022 01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:42.939 But those two things are chatting. 3023 01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:43.380 I know. 3024 01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:46.539 It's just so... That's like Callie's mom and Callie's dad. 3025 01:55:46.619 --> 01:55:49.920 Callie's mom and Callie's dad are still Callie's mom and 3026 01:55:49.939 --> 01:55:52.760 Callie's dad to me forever, even though I'm 39 years old. 3027 01:55:53.939 --> 01:55:56.399 And I'm an adult enough to like do adult things 3028 01:55:57.180 --> 01:56:02.119 with them. But like we'll never be adults together. 3029 01:56:02.140 --> 01:56:04.930 Their primary identity will always be the parent of your friends. 3030 01:56:04.979 --> 01:56:09.369 Yes. And like that's you. You're Lincoln and Delta's dad 3031 01:56:09.470 --> 01:56:10.989 to like a lot of people. 3032 01:56:11.010 --> 01:56:13.970 Yeah. And I think some parents get frustrated that their 3033 01:56:14.010 --> 01:56:17.399 kids can't see them as people. Right. Right. You know, 3034 01:56:17.460 --> 01:56:20.779 it's my great regret, right, that I couldn't have better 3035 01:56:20.819 --> 01:56:24.140 seen my dad as just a person and not my dad. 3036 01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:24.579 Yeah. 3037 01:56:24.819 --> 01:56:27.659 But I would say it should be embraced because it's 3038 01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:28.500 a very unique. 3039 01:56:28.779 --> 01:56:29.199 It is. 3040 01:56:29.220 --> 01:56:30.840 Like, I don't think you're supposed to. 3041 01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:33.319 No, I think you're supposed to embrace it and you're 3042 01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:38.250 supposed to. Get yourself to enjoy, oh, yeah, they look 3043 01:56:38.289 --> 01:56:39.810 at me just like I looked at my parents. 3044 01:56:39.850 --> 01:56:39.949 Yeah. 3045 01:56:39.970 --> 01:56:41.069 And that's how it is. 3046 01:56:41.130 --> 01:56:41.369 Yeah, exactly. 3047 01:56:41.390 --> 01:56:43.689 And there's something about it that, you know. 3048 01:56:43.710 --> 01:56:45.710 Like that shouldn't be messed with, right? 3049 01:56:45.750 --> 01:56:48.420 Yeah, yeah. Like it's not an accident that this is 3050 01:56:48.460 --> 01:56:49.060 how it works. 3051 01:56:49.079 --> 01:56:50.000 It's very strange. 3052 01:56:50.039 --> 01:56:50.239 Yeah. 3053 01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:52.960 But you want to go like, you realize you're driving 3054 01:56:53.020 --> 01:56:56.140 me insane, right? I'm a normal person with a normal 3055 01:56:56.220 --> 01:56:57.060 threshold of. 3056 01:56:58.119 --> 01:56:59.279 But who can care? 3057 01:56:59.600 --> 01:57:01.819 You don't give a fuck if it's your parents. 3058 01:57:02.220 --> 01:57:03.270 Just don't care at all. 3059 01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:03.840 Nor should they. 3060 01:57:05.329 --> 01:57:06.789 Okay, I have to out myself. 3061 01:57:07.829 --> 01:57:07.949 Uh-oh. 3062 01:57:08.430 --> 01:57:13.270 Because when we did Facts for Ash and I was 3063 01:57:13.409 --> 01:57:18.909 reading Phineas' response and then I read our exchange. 3064 01:57:19.029 --> 01:57:19.350 Yes. 3065 01:57:19.569 --> 01:57:23.109 And I used the phrase waterproof evidence. 3066 01:57:23.510 --> 01:57:23.670 Yep. 3067 01:57:23.810 --> 01:57:25.470 And then you said, is that a phrase? But I 3068 01:57:25.489 --> 01:57:26.989 just moved on, okay? Yep, yep. 3069 01:57:27.939 --> 01:57:28.569 And I let it go. 3070 01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:33.680 Thank God. And then after, I was like, oh, yeah, 3071 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:39.569 that isn't right. It's watertight. So then I voice memoed 3072 01:57:39.609 --> 01:57:44.069 you that. And then you said that's also wrong. 3073 01:57:44.090 --> 01:57:50.180 Well, I just said the popular, the colloquial term is airtight. 3074 01:57:50.460 --> 01:57:55.920 Which, like. I think watertight makes sense, though, because if 3075 01:57:55.939 --> 01:57:58.659 you have a Tupperware and it's filled with water and 3076 01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:01.550 you turn it upside down and it doesn't leak out 3077 01:58:01.590 --> 01:58:03.710 that water, it's watertight. 3078 01:58:03.729 --> 01:58:05.569 Yeah, and that's great. 3079 01:58:05.710 --> 01:58:08.270 And I prefer that over some air leaking out. 3080 01:58:08.949 --> 01:58:12.340 Okay, but I think it's— if it's airtight, it'll be watertight. 3081 01:58:12.649 --> 01:58:13.279 I just don't know. 3082 01:58:13.300 --> 01:58:16.340 Because air is smaller than water. So if air can't 3083 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:19.800 get out, then certainly

water can't. It's like, you know, 3084 01:58:19.819 --> 01:58:22.619 you're going to the nth degree. 3085 01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:23.460 Okay. 3086 01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:26.989 You're going to stick with watertight. That's fine. 3087 01:58:27.010 --> 01:58:27.609 I think I like it. 3088 01:58:27.609 --> 01:58:30.130 And you should. You're just not going to get that 3089 01:58:30.369 --> 01:58:31.869 nostalgic knee jerk. 3090 01:58:32.090 --> 01:58:32.510 I see. 3091 01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:35.760 Not of familiarity that you're looking for. 3092 01:58:36.319 --> 01:58:37.159 Well, waterproof. 3093 01:58:37.180 --> 01:58:40.119 Like when you go like, no, this case is waterproof. 3094 01:58:40.220 --> 01:58:42.380 People are going to be like, hmm, I wonder if 3095 01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:45.180 she means. Like, does that mean the same thing as airtight? 3096 01:58:45.300 --> 01:58:47.180 Or does it mean something completely different? 3097 01:58:47.319 --> 01:58:48.720 Waterproof was wrong. 3098 01:58:49.180 --> 01:58:49.520 Yeah. 3099 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:51.600 But watertight. 3100 01:58:51.989 --> 01:58:55.229 But even watertight, I think if you say it. People 3101 01:58:55.270 --> 01:58:57.300 will have to, they're not going to challenge you on 3102 01:58:57.359 --> 01:58:58.220 it like I didn't. 3103 01:58:58.260 --> 01:58:58.880 They shouldn't. 3104 01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:02.899 And then they're going to go, well, I assume about 3105 01:59:02.899 --> 01:59:06.250 60% that means the same thing as airtight. And also 3106 01:59:06.270 --> 01:59:08.789 they're going to have some anxiety that watertight means a 3107 01:59:08.829 --> 01:59:09.810 completely different thing. 3108 01:59:10.319 --> 01:59:12.609 Hopefully they just think it through and it causes them 3109 01:59:12.649 --> 01:59:14.369 to like really think a little. 3110 01:59:14.470 --> 01:59:16.729 And lose sight of what even you guys were talking about. 3111 01:59:16.770 --> 01:59:19.649 Yeah, they think about the Tupperware filled with water turning 3112 01:59:19.729 --> 01:59:20.149 upside down. 3113 01:59:20.310 --> 01:59:20.770 Oh, yeah. 3114 01:59:20.810 --> 01:59:22.909 I mean, I guess that makes sense. There's no water 3115 01:59:22.949 --> 01:59:23.550 leaking out. 3116 01:59:23.810 --> 01:59:24.090 Yeah. 3117 01:59:24.270 --> 01:59:26.050 And the water is the evidence. 3118 01:59:26.449 --> 01:59:29.229 And it's also just interesting because mostly they're pitching things 3119 01:59:29.310 --> 01:59:33.409 on being water resistant or waterproof, keeping water out. But 3120 01:59:33.449 --> 01:59:37.430 you want a new tradition where we talk about keeping 3121 01:59:37.470 --> 01:59:37.760 water out. 3122 01:59:38.609 --> 01:59:42.359 When we're talking about evidence leaking. When we're talking about leaking. 3123 01:59:42.380 --> 01:59:44.840 Because, again, a ship, you want to keep water out. 3124 01:59:45.079 --> 01:59:48.119 I think it's because, yeah, we're talking about

leaking. And 3125 01:59:48.159 --> 01:59:50.640 when I think about leaking, I don't think about air. 3126 01:59:50.979 --> 01:59:56.590 I think about water. Right. Nailed it. I have a 3127 01:59:56.609 --> 01:59:58.869 question for you, but I don't want to embarrass you. 3128 01:59:59.210 --> 02:00:01.979 Okay. Okay. Was it about my face? 3129 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:03.079 Yes. Oh, great. 3130 02:00:03.119 --> 02:00:03.560 Great, great, great. 3131 02:00:03.619 --> 02:00:06.520 I was hoping it would come up on the interview 3132 02:00:06.550 --> 02:00:06.659 we did. 3133 02:00:06.689 --> 02:00:08.390 No, I was never going to bring that up on 3134 02:00:08.409 --> 02:00:08.689 the interview. 3135 02:00:08.710 --> 02:00:10.050 Oh, I would have been happy to because I have 3136 02:00:10.090 --> 02:00:11.829 a whole thing. Because we went to an event last night. 3137 02:00:12.510 --> 02:00:13.569 We went to a charity event. 3138 02:00:13.770 --> 02:00:13.949 Oh. 3139 02:00:14.289 --> 02:00:15.890 And I'm like, oh, there's going to be a red carpet. 3140 02:00:16.029 --> 02:00:18.689 I have my whole face is scarred up. And then 3141 02:00:18.729 --> 02:00:20.220 I was like, what will I tell? 3142 02:00:20.300 --> 02:00:21.460 There was a carpet? 3143 02:00:21.560 --> 02:00:25.079 Well, as it turned out, luckily, there wasn't any press. 3144 02:00:25.180 --> 02:00:27.340 But it was a fundraiser, so I was expecting there 3145 02:00:27.359 --> 02:00:29.659 to be press. Okay. And, of course, I'm not even 3146 02:00:29.689 --> 02:00:32.630 going to do an interview, but sometimes they happen. 3147 02:00:32.949 --> 02:00:33.689 Yeah, sure. 3148 02:00:34.229 --> 02:00:36.729 And so I was prepared to say that I was 3149 02:00:36.850 --> 02:00:41.489 operating a steel grinder, a metal grinder, and that the 3150 02:00:41.750 --> 02:00:44.970 sparks dotted me. Okay. And I was going to say, 3151 02:00:45.010 --> 02:00:48.130 hold on, I was going to lie, knowing the only 3152 02:00:48.170 --> 02:00:50.090 reason I was looking forward to this was to lie 3153 02:00:50.170 --> 02:00:53.920 in that interview so that arm cherries would have the 3154 02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:56.640 inside scoop. Arm cherries would go, no, that looks like 3155 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:57.479 the high fricator 2000. 3156 02:00:57.460 --> 02:00:57.619 Uh-huh. 3157 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:01.920 Okay, so for the listener who can't see. 3158 02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:06.180 Or watcher. Well, I think if they're watching, they can see. 3159 02:01:07.699 --> 02:01:12.319 That you have spots all over your face. 3160 02:01:12.359 --> 02:01:13.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3161 02:01:13.439 --> 02:01:14.479 Now it's called what? 3162 02:01:14.659 --> 02:01:17.239 Well, this was pointed out to me, and I thank 3163 02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:22.029 this commenter. A dermatologist wrote in about my hyphrocator. 3164 02:01:22.470 --> 02:01:23.760 Oh, but that's not what you were calling it. 3165 02:01:23.770 --> 02:01:25.890 I wasn't. I was calling it something completely. 3166 02:01:25.909 --> 02:01:27.630 You were calling it a high factor. 3167 02:01:27.670 --> 02:01:27.909 Yeah, yeah. 3168 02:01:27.989 --> 02:01:28.510 I liked that. 3169 02:01:28.550 --> 02:01:29.289 High fricator. 3170 02:01:29.310 --> 02:01:29.390 Okay. 3171 02:01:30.090 --> 02:01:31.649 And they taught me how to say it. 3172 02:01:31.810 --> 02:01:32.119 Okay. 3173 02:01:32.199 --> 02:01:34.039 And they said all in all they weren't terribly worried. 3174 02:01:34.079 --> 02:01:36.579 They thought that the pain would be a big enough dissuader. Oh, 3175 02:01:36.579 --> 02:01:39.859 they weren't. To prevent any real damage. 3176 02:01:39.899 --> 02:01:42.970 Okay, well, I think they might need to watch this episode. 3177 02:01:43.069 --> 02:01:45.850 No, listen, this is what I did last round, if 3178 02:01:45.890 --> 02:01:49.229 you recall. I had more last round. No. Yes, I 3179 02:01:49.250 --> 02:01:51.050 had way more around my neck and shoulders than I 3180 02:01:51.050 --> 02:01:51.430 had a shirt on. 3181 02:01:51.439 --> 02:01:52.220 I know, but this is on your face. 3182 02:01:52.260 --> 02:01:53.939 Yeah, yeah, it's on my face. Even the tip of 3183 02:01:53.979 --> 02:01:56.270 my nose, I got a little stuff. You see, I 3184 02:01:56.289 --> 02:01:57.050 want to. 3185 02:01:57.729 --> 02:01:58.010 Tip my nose. 3186 02:01:58.029 --> 02:01:58.970 It's just a lot. 3187 02:01:58.989 --> 02:02:01.569 You've done a lot. You've done a lot to your face. 3188 02:02:01.590 --> 02:02:02.930 Yeah, yeah. It was so fun. 3189 02:02:03.109 --> 02:02:05.310 I need you to be careful. And I think that 3190 02:02:05.829 --> 02:02:09.810 this new thing is your new cutting hair anxiety thing. 3191 02:02:09.829 --> 02:02:12.800 No, not yet. I'll admit to it when that happens. 3192 02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:14.699 I don't think you know it until a little later. 3193 02:02:14.859 --> 02:02:18.920 No. Cutting my hair as an anxiety release is like 3194 02:02:19.239 --> 02:02:24.500 I kind of can't pass a mirror without seeing something. Right? 3195 02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:29.420 That's that. pattern yeah this is like i was accumulating 3196 02:02:29.460 --> 02:02:32.779 making mental notes for two months since i haven't been 3197 02:02:32.840 --> 02:02:37.159 by my east coast high fricator 2000 yeah and so 3198 02:02:37.239 --> 02:02:40.159 now i finally have gotten one on the west coast 3199 02:02:40.340 --> 02:02:41.920 and it was sitting on my desk for a week 3200 02:02:41.979 --> 02:02:44.010 and all last week i wanted to use it so 3201 02:02:44.050 --> 02:02:47.510 bad but we were too busy so saturday came around 3202 02:02:47.529 --> 02:02:49.489 i was like oh finally time for me and my 3203 02:02:49.529 --> 02:02:52.439 high fricator 2000 And so I set it up on 3204 02:02:52.460 --> 02:02:54.579 my desk. This one's even nicer. This one seems to 3205 02:02:54.619 --> 02:02:56.880 have not been

refurbished. I think it's brand new. And 3206 02:02:56.920 --> 02:02:59.000 it came with tons of attachments. What's the other one? 3207 02:02:59.020 --> 02:03:02.640 Didn't it? This one's gorgeous. Okay. So I fire it 3208 02:03:02.840 --> 02:03:05.239 up and I get to zap in and it's all, 3209 02:03:05.539 --> 02:03:08.399 I've already clocked them all. Like I'll just start digging 3210 02:03:08.420 --> 02:03:11.699 around my hair to find shit. This is, I already 3211 02:03:11.729 --> 02:03:14.229 had a laundry list of things that needed zapping. This 3212 02:03:14.270 --> 02:03:16.409 was always coming. This is like two months out. 3213 02:03:17.250 --> 02:03:23.390 And so listen, When I saw you today, when you 3214 02:03:23.409 --> 02:03:26.890 first walked up, I was like, what has he done? 3215 02:03:26.930 --> 02:03:27.189 Yeah. 3216 02:03:27.550 --> 02:03:28.770 What is he doing? 3217 02:03:28.869 --> 02:03:29.229 Yeah. 3218 02:03:29.449 --> 02:03:33.600 It's great. In like three days, I'll have no hyperplasia 3219 02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:39.060 anymore on my face. What even is hyperplasia? The next time, doodads, 3220 02:03:39.100 --> 02:03:40.560 like skin rolls. 3221 02:03:40.659 --> 02:03:44.060 I've never, I have never noticed any of that on 3222 02:03:44.100 --> 02:03:44.460 your face. 3223 02:03:44.500 --> 02:03:47.090 You're not taking your face. Index finger and rubbing it 3224 02:03:47.170 --> 02:03:50.050 across my forehead and scanning for bumps. 3225 02:03:50.189 --> 02:03:51.850 I know, but you don't have any. 3226 02:03:52.029 --> 02:03:54.210 Well, now I don't because I just zapped them on 3227 02:03:54.229 --> 02:03:59.529 Kingdom Come on Saturday. I got a whopper under my arm. 3228 02:03:59.789 --> 02:04:02.439 That one had been driving me insane for two months. 3229 02:04:02.449 --> 02:04:02.949 I'm like, fuck. 3230 02:04:03.100 --> 02:04:03.729 Was it raised? 3231 02:04:03.760 --> 02:04:04.939 It was a proper skin tag. 3232 02:04:05.180 --> 02:04:05.439 Okay. 3233 02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:10.600 That. I, okay, sure. Like, but whatever's happening on your face, 3234 02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:14.659 no one notices. And yet here you are making like, 3235 02:04:15.270 --> 02:04:17.050 you're so scabbed up. 3236 02:04:17.090 --> 02:04:18.539 Yeah, I love it. I don't mind it at all. 3237 02:04:18.550 --> 02:04:21.029 And I then imagined in the middle of the interview, 3238 02:04:21.069 --> 02:04:24.149 I zoned out at one point and I imagined like, 3239 02:04:25.310 --> 02:04:27.189 Every day you come in and like. 3240 02:04:27.550 --> 02:04:29.310 Yeah, I'm just, my whole face is a scab. 3241 02:04:29.449 --> 02:04:32.569 It's an SNL sketch. But every day it's worse and worse. 3242 02:04:32.609 --> 02:04:33.369 Progressively. 3243 02:04:33.390 --> 02:04:33.510 Yeah. 3244 02:04:33.609 --> 02:04:35.529 I'm losing more and more sight of it. 3245 02:04:35.609 --> 02:04:36.270 Exactly. 3246 02:04:36.369 --> 02:04:40.029 I wish to God, I wanted the interview subject to 3247 02:04:40.069 --> 02:04:40.689 bring it up. 3248 02:04:40.829 --> 02:04:41.430 He would never. 3249 02:04:41.449 --> 02:04:43.010 Because I was going to tell him it was from 3250 02:04:43.069 --> 02:04:45.789 a metal grinder. And then I wanted just, I just 3251 02:04:45.829 --> 02:04:48.810 wanted to give the armchairs a fun secret that they would, 3252 02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:51.399 they would go bullshit. He was zapping his face. That 3253 02:04:51.449 --> 02:04:54.699 is not from grinding metal. But the grinding metal would 3254 02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:56.340 be a— you would totally buy that because, you know, it's 3255 02:04:56.359 --> 02:05:00.039 just showering sparks. I have burnt myself using the metal grinder. 3256 02:05:00.619 --> 02:05:03.380 It's just showering sparks, so they could have landed and 3257 02:05:03.439 --> 02:05:03.819 zapped me. 3258 02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:07.600 Yeah, you could also maybe say, like, oil splatter from cooking. 3259 02:05:08.079 --> 02:05:08.619 Yeah. 3260 02:05:09.399 --> 02:05:12.699 You won't, but— Not macho enough. I need metal grinder. 3261 02:05:12.949 --> 02:05:14.029 Yeah, it's not macho enough. 3262 02:05:14.069 --> 02:05:15.710 Instead of what it is— I'm in there, yeah, with 3263 02:05:16.130 --> 02:05:19.609 vanity central with six mirrors and all this lighting. I 3264 02:05:19.689 --> 02:05:22.170 am using, like, shop lighting. I have this, like, really 3265 02:05:22.270 --> 02:05:25.250 powerful— rods that you put under the car to be 3266 02:05:25.270 --> 02:05:27.869 able to see under there. So my desk is like, 3267 02:05:27.890 --> 02:05:30.069 it's a mix between, is he building an engine or 3268 02:05:30.149 --> 02:05:31.880 is he zapping his face? Wow. 3269 02:05:32.279 --> 02:05:33.300 Well, my goodness. 3270 02:05:33.319 --> 02:05:35.180 Thanks for noticing. I would have forgot to bring it up. 3271 02:05:35.239 --> 02:05:37.140 And I'm happy to talk about it. I'm not embarrassed. 3272 02:05:37.239 --> 02:05:37.619 Good. 3273 02:05:38.340 --> 02:05:41.500 I mean. I don't want you to be embarrassed ever, 3274 02:05:41.659 --> 02:05:43.960 but I do want you to be a little careful 3275 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:45.119 with your face, okay? 3276 02:05:45.260 --> 02:05:45.880 I'm being very careful. 3277 02:05:45.899 --> 02:05:48.659 You have a nice face. You can just let it be. 3278 02:05:49.159 --> 02:05:51.869 Well, no, because the gross will take over. No, they won't. 3279 02:05:51.909 --> 02:05:53.810 You won't be saying that. Yeah, they get bigger and bigger. 3280 02:05:53.890 --> 02:05:56.090 Okay. Some facts. 3281 02:05:56.170 --> 02:05:57.609 Yes. Ash facts. 3282 02:05:57.970 --> 02:05:58.250 Okay. 3283 02:05:58.409 --> 02:06:00.289 First things first. I. 3284 02:06:00.310 --> 02:06:02.289 I have a text you got to tell me about. 3285 02:06:02.609 --> 02:06:07.340 I asked Phineas and Claudia... I said, hi, I'm doing 3286 02:06:07.380 --> 02:06:09.619 a

fact check for Ash, and Dak says he was 3287 02:06:09.659 --> 02:06:12.260 the oldest non-family member at your wedding. Can you deny 3288 02:06:12.340 --> 02:06:14.479 or confirm, please? Phineas. 3289 02:06:14.850 --> 02:06:15.310 False! 3290 02:06:16.510 --> 02:06:17.430 Exclamation point. 3291 02:06:17.449 --> 02:06:17.949 False. 3292 02:06:19.170 --> 02:06:20.670 And then- Who was older? 3293 02:06:21.050 --> 02:06:23.569 Zane Lowe! Exclamation point. 3294 02:06:23.630 --> 02:06:27.199 How old is Zane? 53. 53. 3295 02:06:27.199 --> 02:06:28.680 All right. All right. 3296 02:06:28.819 --> 02:06:30.659 And then I said, thank you. I will be setting 3297 02:06:30.680 --> 02:06:35.170 the record straight. He came back actually also a guy 3298 02:06:35.210 --> 02:06:37.649 named Paul who is 70. And then I said, great. 3299 02:06:37.729 --> 02:06:39.289 This feels like waterproof evidence. 3300 02:06:40.170 --> 02:06:43.789 Waterproof evidence. Is that an expression? 3301 02:06:44.529 --> 02:06:48.250 Then he said, only guy with no shirt to be clear. 3302 02:06:49.329 --> 02:06:49.689 Okay. 3303 02:06:49.750 --> 02:06:52.300 So that's really the only thing I can say that 3304 02:06:52.380 --> 02:06:52.939 is unique. 3305 02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:55.579 Yeah. Okay. 3306 02:06:55.819 --> 02:06:58.180 Also, though, she made a point because she brought up 3307 02:06:58.239 --> 02:07:01.079 being at a table by Jason Sudeikis. Yeah, yeah. And 3308 02:07:01.100 --> 02:07:03.060 then she started to say, how old is he? But 3309 02:07:03.739 --> 02:07:04.510 we moved on. 3310 02:07:04.529 --> 02:07:04.609 Yeah. 3311 02:07:05.350 --> 02:07:07.250 He's 51. He's your age. 3312 02:07:07.630 --> 02:07:08.710 When's his birthday? 3313 02:07:08.970 --> 02:07:12.529 His birthday is on September 18th. 3314 02:07:12.609 --> 02:07:16.220 Yeah, so I'm much older than him. 3315 02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:17.159 I'm not playing. 3316 02:07:17.380 --> 02:07:20.779 Over nine months. Okay. We're rounding up over a year older. 3317 02:07:20.800 --> 02:07:21.579 We're not rounding up. 3318 02:07:23.180 --> 02:07:27.359 Don't need to. Nine months is an eternity. Hopefully you're 3319 02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:29.970 going to explode. 3320 02:07:30.189 --> 02:07:34.170 Is high cotton a bad phrase? The phrase in high 3321 02:07:34.229 --> 02:07:37.649 cotton or tall cotton is not. Oh, I said is 3322 02:07:37.689 --> 02:07:40.409 high cotton. It filled in a racist term. 3323 02:07:40.649 --> 02:07:41.170 So I let it. 3324 02:07:42.050 --> 02:07:42.590 Run with that. 3325 02:07:42.829 --> 02:07:42.989 Yeah. 3326 02:07:43.270 --> 02:07:45.409 The phrase in high cotton or tall cotton is not 3327 02:07:45.470 --> 02:07:49.520 inherently racist as it originates from rural southern agricultural life 3328 02:07:49.560 --> 02:07:53.500 to describe a successful harvest and financial prosperity. Obviously, that's 3329 02:07:53.539 --> 02:07:55.350 what that's what you said. That's what it means. 3330 02:07:55.909 --> 02:07:58.130 It's you don't love it. 3331 02:07:58.409 --> 02:08:02.920 You know. Oh, Ash said birth control pills. She was like, 3332 02:08:02.960 --> 02:08:06.079 which we now know are bad for you. Not necessarily 3333 02:08:06.180 --> 02:08:06.720 true at all. 3334 02:08:07.020 --> 02:08:07.220 No. 3335 02:08:07.680 --> 02:08:11.739 So, I did DM Dr. Mary Claire Haver. 3336 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:13.159 Yeah, great. 3337 02:08:13.380 --> 02:08:14.180 She didn't respond. 3338 02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:14.979 No, yeah. 3339 02:08:15.060 --> 02:08:15.520 In time. 3340 02:08:15.699 --> 02:08:15.979 Yeah. 3341 02:08:16.220 --> 02:08:17.180 So, um. 3342 02:08:17.750 --> 02:08:19.289 I think she's a very busy woman. I think a 3343 02:08:19.350 --> 02:08:22.510 lot of people— because I know Kristen's got an unanswered DM, too. 3344 02:08:22.630 --> 02:08:23.380 She is very busy. 3345 02:08:23.560 --> 02:08:26.020 Yeah, so maybe on a fact check in 2027. Yeah, 3346 02:08:26.060 --> 02:08:26.579 we'll find out. 3347 02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:29.619 But I just went to overall Google, you know. Birth 3348 02:08:29.659 --> 02:08:32.100 control pills are generally safe and effective for most people, 3349 02:08:32.140 --> 02:08:34.270 but they do carry potential side effects and rare risks 3350 02:08:34.289 --> 02:08:38.489 depending on individual health factors. But, like, it's not like. 3351 02:08:38.449 --> 02:08:41.640 An overall— Is that? 3352 02:08:41.699 --> 02:08:44.079 Or was she talking about having kids? I think she 3353 02:08:44.100 --> 02:08:46.460 was kind of referencing, because she said, I've been on 3354 02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:48.600 it for 10 years, and she was talking about the 3355 02:08:48.659 --> 02:08:50.560 kids thing. That's what it led to. 3356 02:08:50.619 --> 02:08:52.729 Okay. I filled in the blank. I thought she was talking. 3357 02:08:52.770 --> 02:08:55.149 The thing I always hear people panicked about is the strokes. 3358 02:08:55.170 --> 02:08:57.550 That used to be a very common fear, but I 3359 02:08:57.590 --> 02:09:00.229 haven't heard about that in a while. But it actually 3360 02:09:00.250 --> 02:09:02.850 can have some health benefits. It can lower cancer risk. 3361 02:09:03.430 --> 02:09:07.470 Symptom relief, obviously, but birth control can help with cramps 3362 02:09:07.649 --> 02:09:09.010 and heavy bleeding. 3363 02:09:09.350 --> 02:09:10.399 Skin benefits for some. 3364 02:09:10.409 --> 02:09:11.489 Yep, exactly. 3365 02:09:11.939 --> 02:09:14.359 Criticism of body keeps the score. 3366 02:09:14.760 --> 02:09:16.579 I think there's a school of thought that is if 3367 02:09:16.600 --> 02:09:19.600 you're suggesting this is trapped in your body and you 3368 02:09:19.640 --> 02:09:22.960 need to excavate it, that the excavation for people could 3369 02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:26.119 be more damaging than not doing the excavation. I think that's, 3370 02:09:27.439 --> 02:09:29.800 if I understand the pushback correctly, I think that's part 3371 02:09:29.819 --> 02:09:32.229 of what it is. Now, look, as I've said, I 3372 02:09:32.310 --> 02:09:34.210 love Body Keeps the Score. I think it's a great book. 3373 02:09:34.409 --> 02:09:38.449 And again, what's probably true is that it's very accurate 3374 02:09:38.489 --> 02:09:41.409 for certain people who have had really intense trauma. And 3375 02:09:41.449 --> 02:09:45.310 then there's probably other people who don't need to excavate, 3376 02:09:45.430 --> 02:09:47.470 who excavating is not a good idea. You know, I 3377 02:09:47.489 --> 02:09:50.369 don't know. But it's such a range of people with 3378 02:09:50.930 --> 02:09:54.689 a range of conditions that to say one approach is 3379 02:09:54.710 --> 02:09:56.529 going to work for everyone. Naturally, you're going to be 3380 02:09:56.550 --> 02:09:58.210 able to find a subset that that's not the right 3381 02:09:58.250 --> 02:09:58.810 thing to do with. 3382 02:09:59.510 --> 02:10:01.529 Yeah, it says critics and journalists point out that the 3383 02:10:01.569 --> 02:10:05.510 book can over-medicalize distress, inflate the definition of trauma, and 3384 02:10:05.550 --> 02:10:09.689 ignore broader social, political, and structural forces behind violence. Some 3385 02:10:09.750 --> 02:10:12.850 science writers also argue it misinterprets certain data or presents 3386 02:10:12.890 --> 02:10:14.510 an overly bleak view of recovery. 3387 02:10:15.609 --> 02:10:16.050 Interesting. 3388 02:10:16.069 --> 02:10:16.649 Yeah. 3389 02:10:16.869 --> 02:10:19.130 That might be it. 3390 02:10:19.770 --> 02:10:20.010 Yeah. 3391 02:10:20.489 --> 02:10:22.449 That's it. 3392 02:10:22.590 --> 02:10:22.770 Okay. 3393 02:10:23.029 --> 02:10:23.590 That's his all. 3394 02:10:23.609 --> 02:10:24.029 Love you. 3395 02:10:24.090 --> 02:10:24.409 Love you. 3396 02:10:33.020 --> 02:10:33.279 Thank you.