Entreprogrammers Podcast

Entreprogrammers Podcast
By Derick Bailey, Charles Max Wood, John Sonmez, Josh Earl
About this podcast
Get a fly-on-the-wall perspective from 4 developers turned entrepreneurs, as they struggle with the business and learn lessons the hard way. This is the weekly mastermind group of the entreprogrammers - a no holds barred, unedited look at what it really takes to be an entrepreneur.
Latest episodes
Feb. 14, 2018
0:15 We’re live! Chuck having technical difficulties. Discussion n progress with the Mental Toughness project. There is testing, testing, and more testing. EntreProgrammers talk about the marketing strategies for this new project, price testing and checking the number of sales.  5:00 Josh explains marketing tactics. John explains the promotion of the Bulldog mindset course along with the Mental Toughness project. Josh talk about the sells that took place during the promotion.  9:00 John explains more on the marketing analytics, conversion, and the emails sent to the list. John and Mani joke about the 9 dollar product price. Mani talks about creating a subset of the product. Josh talks about the product he can possibly sell, but the cheaper 5-9 dollar products will sell as a promotional tactic.  15:00 Mani, John, and Josh talk about Interview Cake. John mentions reading the Predictably Irrational book because of the interesting price setting topics. Josh mentioned that he is tapped out on writing promotions. Josh talks about strategies he has put out from John’s book.  24:00 Josh talks about a possible new course about how to get a job, and statics on interested and disinterested customers on promotions. Otherwise selling to a very small group which might not be worth the time. John asks about growing product sales after a long flatline.  30:00 Josh mention working with Podia, but needed to get some direction. Josh jokes about John being very knowledgeable about the numbers for someone who is not involved in the business anymore. Josh talks about having issues with permalinks.  37:00 Chuck talks about turning off caching on his podcast website because of a similar issue. Chuck talks about his recent trips to conferences and encountering bad rooms and bad internet.  40:00 Chuck talks about have done 20-30 recording at NG Atlanta for podcast purposes and youtube. Chuck shows the progress in his new PodWrench application and his plans on how this will eventually work with productions and placing sponsors.  47:00 Chuck explain how inviting and placing new sponsor will work. Mani asks about listenership, and download numbers. Mani asks a question about CPM and pricing and how the sponsor slots work. More talk on CPM.  56:00 Josh jokes about Baba, and how this new system is great for his business. Chuck talks about the evolving process with PodWrench and upcoming plans for the system. John and Josh say that PodWrench can be a great SAAS business soon.  1:00:00 Chuck talks about the different stages to move the application along. Chuck says PodWrench is not ready for the public, but it is getting there. Chuck talks about the different areas this sponsorship process can possibly fill for other podcasters. Chuck says this could turn him into a marketing agency for the podcast as this project grows.  1:05:00 Josh says this would be a great platform for marketing.  Thoughts for the Week John - Just hang in there!  Chuck - Take the breather  Josh - Treat you affiliate like gold  Mani - Understanding numbers  
Feb. 6, 2018
0:15 Chuck joke about his glare and Mani is in a detention room. Josh talks about his wireless 8lb headset. The EntreProgrammers talk about the wireless headphones and the troubles with the AirPods. John jokes that Josh electronic trouble because he is like Powder. 5:00 Mani talks about his recent price increase with his product and research on keywords for branding proposes. Mani talks about change or rebranding based on Confidence and Mental Toughness keywords. John gives feedback on a book What Doesn’t Kill Us. 9:00 John talks about doing an AB test on the titles to see what does better. Josh suggest base on YouTube content. Chuck talks about long tail searches base on titles and words. Mani talks about the issues with titling Mental Toughness and Self Confidence. Mani asks John what he would like to use as a title, Mental Toughness. Josh, John, and Mani plan their attack with the upcoming product. 15:00 John talks about doing an interview with the founder of Quest Nutrition, Tom Bilyeu. John talks about Tom’s Youtube channel, Impact Theory. John and Mani talk about the net worth of the company and other details. John talks about trying to get Tye Lopez on the show… 20:00 John talks about the myth of Facebook advertising. John says show him a profitable Facebook ad. The EntreProgarmmer talk about finding someone who has profitable Facebook Ads. Josh talks about selling low price products verse high price product on platforms like Facebook. 25:00 The EntreProgrammer talk about webinars and facebook marketing. Also some talk about paid traffic. John talks about what profitable Facebook ads should look like. 30:00 Josh talks about the blog update in Simple Programmer. Looks like the numbers have increased and ranking boost. Josh talks about the traffic on their blog posts and the guest posting numbers. Mani ask a question about posts from 2016. John talks about guests post and numbers reached last year. 35:00 John talks about pruning some posts to increase the numbers. Chuck talks about his visit at NG Atlanta. Chuck talks about doing an interview on Youtube and podcasts. Chuck talks about how is camera does not have an audio input.  Mani suggests recording the video with a phone and having audio hookups. 40:00 Chuck says his Social Media person quit. Also, some work with Dropbox cleanup and moving files around to get organized. Josh chimes back in with numbers from last years traffic. Josh talks about the editorial team for the blog posts. 45:00 Josh talk about testing out the articles. Josh talks about doing keyword optimization and backlinking. John talks about the strategy with backlinks and getting some coaching on the topic. 53:00 Chuck talks about getting some big name for the first episode of the Vue Podcast Thoughts of the Week! John - Make sure you remind yourself of things that nullify your goals  Josh - Believe there is a solution! Chuck - Building Systems! Mani - Understanding the customer journey!
Jan. 30, 2018
0:15 We’re Live! Joining the show is Mani Vaya, who has been working with Josh and John doing affiliate promotion with Simple Program. Mani is a programmer by trade, he has worked in electrical and computer engineering, to project management, and worked with a variety of cell phone companies. Currently, Mani is the host of 2000 Books for Ambitious Entrepreneurs podcast, a business based on book summaries. Mani talks about the huge selection of book summaries and his work with Simple Programmer. 3:30 Mani mentions working on this business for the last 2.25 years now. Mani talks about the exciting things he has learned from books and how it has changed his life. Mani talks about the bigger picture of the book summaries and his business. Mani mentions becoming a philosopher in his field. 6:00 EntreProgrammers talk about what a personality business is about and transitioning it over into something else. John talks about the options and traction of building up a business like Mani’s current book summary business. 9:00 Chuck talks about the content, entertainment, personality for the platform or business. Josh talks out marketing and business. Josh talks about reconfiguring John’s email account as the business transitions without John. Josh talks about growing the business further to function without videos. 14:00 Josh talks about the traffic from YouTube and the blog site. Josh continues to talk about redirects and some SEO work he has implemented. Josh talks about more traffic and server issues. 22:00 Josh talks about doing a skyscraper strategy for the book piece products. Josh talks about their transparency with the new writers. Mani asks questions about how to sell bundles and products. More talk about the product sale strategies with the “How To Read a Book” product. 29:00 Mani, Josh, and John discuss the next steps on the “How To Read a Book” product. Josh and Mani talk about the price of the product. John talks about options on how to interview successful entrepreneurs to help produce the product on how to read books. 36:00 John talks about not having much free time during his free time. John mentions running 5 miles a couple times a day, and working out, and getting ready to do taxes. John talks about being tempted to work with Josh and Mani on the new idea for an upcoming project. 40:00 Josh talks about the new workflow at Simple Programmer without John. Josh talks about the functions of Google Drive Business. Josh talks about the Team Drive business. Thoughts of the Week Chuck  - Take a minute and think about your entrepreneurial lifestyle John - Don’t use personal accounts when starting a business Josh - Responding, not reacting Mani - Health is everything
Jan. 23, 2018
0:15 We’re Live! John is slacking and is late to the podcast. Chuck talks about selling some more sponsorship spots for his podcast network. Chuck talk about his sales pitch and changing how that new podcast sponsor application works as of now. Also some talk about how his new sponsorship slots will work as far as payments. 4:30 Chuck talks about his new sponsors and return sponsors. Interview Cake, Kendo UI, among a few others are sponsors of the Dev Chat podcasts. Chuck mention this audience or listener numbers for Ruby Rogues. Also some talk on conversion and ROI.  8:30 Josh suggests video testimonials for the sponsorship material. Chuck talks about selling sponsorship slots for podcasts show that is still in the works.  13:00 Chuck and talks about the process of closing deals for sponsorships and more automation and systemizing. Chuck talks about having an inside sales team and working more on PodWrench. Josh talks about building more feature into the system later on. 15:00 Chuck talk about how this time of the year is a great time to sell sponsorships. There is definitely a cycle. Chuck talks about becoming a vendor, and sponsorships with certain companies. Chuck talks about some of the companies and technologies used and talked about in the podcasts. 21:00 Chuck talk about getting sponsorship for the React Native Radio Podcast . Also more talks about launching new podcasts for Dev Chat TV. Chuck says he will for now host them and run them for awhile till the show is up an running. Chuck talks about selling a document or course on the process for launching a podcast for a platform like Dev Chat TV.   26:00 John suggests a tool like Help Scout to for emails account for team members. Chuck mentions possibly doing a help desk of some sort. Chuck talks about using Missive app. Chuck talks about wanted to move everything to PipeDrive. 35:00 In other news, Josh says he is debt free, paid off his mortgage. The EntreProgarmmers talks about the process for paying off a mortgage. Pay off is possible. Josh talks about signing up MediShare programs. More talks on MediShare programs. 42:00 Josh talks about how he and John are working on transitioning over the company over to Josh. Josh does not think he is going to continue with the Youtube channel. Josh talks about the type of content he chooses to have for the company. Also more on possibly hiring content writers in the specialized material. EntreProgrammers talks about the incentives for the content. 52:00 Josh talks about the content produced by John and having a health topic list to keep content going. Josh talks about custom dimensions in Google Analytics. Josh talk about pulling out of Kindle unlimited. Josh talks about the down sales on the book on all mediums. 58:00 Josh talk about writing an email to the list about why they have not purchased the book. Josh mentions that he has to get good at SEO. John mentions hiring someone to help accelerate the learning curve. 1:01:00 John says he changed to YouTube Channel name to John Sonmez instead of Simple Programmer. Josh talks about setting up push notifications for the website. Josh talks about the excitement of Push Notifications. 1:05:00 Josh talk out doubling the signup rate and pitching to the email list. Chuck jokes about John being hangover and sold off his kidneys. 1:10:00 John talks about trying to keep from going into hustle mode and thinking about growing the youtube channel further. John thinks Josh can double Simple Programmer in a year. Thought for the Week! John - Sometimes it’s good to force yourself to make decisions. Josh - If there is something you hate doing, chance are you can hire someone to do it. Chuck -  Be your own client
Jan. 16, 2018
0:15 We’re Live! Chuck is coming in from Las Vegas. Big news! John says he is leaving Simple Programmer. In other words, John says he is leaving the CEO role, but still doing the videos. John says he wants to take time to try other things and take a break from the programmer world. 4:30 Josh mentions the talk John and he as and the notice things changed after the book launch and the Europe trip. Josh talks about his plans as with Simple Programmer as they have continuous growth and transition. 8:00 Josh talks about maybe keep trucking along with Simple Programmer and keep doing emails and consulting. Or work on growing Simple Programmer even further into a multi-million dollar company. Josh says he is still not sure what to do yet, but he is leaning toward growing the company. 11:00 Chuck says he sees where they are coming from. Chuck asks if they have all the processes documented to run Simple Programmer. John says Simple Programmer is built on systems and basically runs on its own. Josh mentions that some of the things are not systemized as far as John and Josh’s part of the job. 16:00 Josh and John talk about the revenue that could make if they put everything on autopilot. Chuck asked if they will be happy with this change. John talks about how his goals kept growing even when he knew he should take a break or retire. John says he is now trying to simplify things and get rid of things. 19:00 John talks about allowing himself the freedom from work and has been thinking about this for a long long time. Chuck suggests a possible sabbatical instead of totally leaving the company. John says his last book was everything he wanted to say about software development and he is done with that topic. 24:00 John talks about the possible direction Josh could take Simple Programmer, and where he could contribute to that later on. Josh talks about the 6 month cooling off period before they know what they want to do for sure, and tidy of the company for the transition. Josh says John was the traffic engine and that is where he will need help. 27:00 Josh talks about the kinds of phases he will have to plan for traffic, books, courses, and marketing to continue growing the Simple Programmer without or minimal help from John.30:00 Chuck says Josh’s plan sounds similar to what he is trying to do. Chuck says he is curious to see how things go. 31:00 John talks about maybe going to Tibet or building/programming a game. John says he is firing himself from his own company. John says Josh can grow the company in the direction it needs to grow. 33:00 Josh asks about the light going out at the CES event. Chuck talks about the Samsung and LG booths at CES. Chuck talks about the power loss and the kinds of things going on at the event. Chuck says he is looking into the traffic engine details to drive traffic to his websites. 40:00 Chuck talks about his interviews and talks at the conferences. Chuck talks about his plan for building products. Chuck talks about the processes for starting a podcast and running a podcast, as he starting a React and View podcast soon. Chuck signs off. Booth babes. 43:00 John says they have Chuck’s blessing for the upcoming transition in Simple Programmer. Josh and John talk more about the reversible changes in case things are not going well. Or if things are going great, then there is no need to reverse the changes. 43:00 John talks about making an announcement video for the company. Also, changing emails and maybe creating a customer service system for Simple Programmer. John talks about the current situation in running Simple Programmer. 46:00 John talks about instead he should be the Chief Story Teller for the company. Josh says this is an absentee own role for the company. C Thoughts of the Week John - Change your vision and identity, and then actions with change. Josh - It is worth paying the premium price.
Jan. 10, 2018
0:15 We’re Live. Technical difficulties, what? John mentions he is sitting again because he has been running 5miles in the morning. Josh says the pine box is the solution to standing desks, and such so call health alternatives to work.    2:00 Chuck mentions he was on .NetRocks podcast.  Chuck mention they talk about the Finding A Job course he created a while back. John talks about being on .NetRock podcast to gain some traffic to products, but it was not a whole lot traffic.    5:00 Chuck say people keep asking him about the Ruby Rogues issues awhile back. John says Chuck should ignore it or explode it as a reenactment on YouTube. EntreProgrammers talk about death threats and Net Neutrality.    8:00 Josh talks about what the what Net Neutrality would be mean in the long term or if is really mattered. Chuck says the government should stay out of it and let the kid figure it out.    15:00 Josh asks how much drama are you willing to deal with to Chuck. Express yourself more. John talks about the Girl who did the fat shaming video and another on ADHD. John says to take you pant off instead of your shirt during the podcast. John talks about how to handle a situation and buying into a reality.   20:00 Josh talks about reading T Rex vs. VS Raptor, and make s some strong connections. Chuck talk about being ahead in the podcast recordings and having his team to more to help the podcast request for guests.    24:00 Chuck talks about the current situations and goals for scheduling podcasts sponsors. Also his plans for schedule team members on Asana. John and Josh talk about missing a check or having a 6-week delay in getting the money.   30:00 EntreProgrammers figure out the missing money situation on air. Josh talks about their giveaway on Sublime text. Josh talks about their Drip setup and plans for the giveaway. Josh talks about IntelliJ.    39:00 John talks about the death threats and funny emails he gets about refunds. John talks about a refund with a very convincing customer, and blacklisting this dude, kinda. More talk about weeding out scammers and refunds. John talks more about future videos he is producing for Simple Programmer.    54:00 Josh talks about Thinkful.  Also,  the comparison of those who go to college, have a degree, and could earn million dollars more in their lifetime. More talk about product sales.    1:02:00 Josh talks about turning one of Johns coaching calls into an email to gain audience and sales. John talks about bringing in sales on YouTube. Chuck is cracking jokes about twitter and youtube.    Thoughts of the Week John - Keep pushing  Chuck - Find someone who knows this stuff to help you Josh - Short-term goals   
Jan. 3, 2018
0:15 We’re Live! The EntreProgrammers talk about how the mixer idea with the rest of the EntreProgrammer Sub Groups was a great idea. John talks about falling off the wagon with his diet for the last 2 weeks. John also mentions winning another cruise package in a Poker tournament on the cruise. 5:00 Josh mentions doing nothin and disengaging from work during the new years. Chuck mentions doing 2 podcasts and getting work done. Chuck mentions hiring a new business coach for direct coaching and formal guidance. 8:00 Chuck talks about his plans for weekly meetings and podcast scheduling. Chuck ask for advice on how to go about putting some on a full-time working schedule. Josh says since they already work for your just up their hours and commit to a step up level before a full time position. 15:00 Josh and John talk about their employees at Simple Programmer and how were hired into their positions. Chuck talks about how he would eventually like his team work for him. Chuck talks about going to Micro Conf this year. 20:00 The EntreProgrammers talks about doing a get together of some sort with the EntreProgrammers Sub Group.  John says it was great to get away with no internet access during the cruise. 24:00 EntreProgrammers talk about how the new tax laws will affect them. Josh thinks it might be somewhat in his favor. More complexity and confusion? Josh talks about doing a 529 or a pass through. EntreProgrammers talks about drunk Uncle Sam and welfare. Chuck talks about his wishes for taxes and problems with the government tax rules. 32:00 Josh mentions liking the new Star Wars. More geek talk on Star Wars. EntreProgrammers  talks about hiring geeky Star Wars fans. EntreProgrammers talks about Andy Weir, the writer of The Martian, and George Lucas. 44:00 Chuck ask what are the plans for Josh and John this year. Josh talk about some affiliate promotions and such. Josh talks about working with Manny.  Josh talks about breaking Manny’s website. 50:00 Chuck says for the next 6 months, he will be working out making the business grow. Josh talks more about pricing and sales templates. John and Josh talks about sales tactics and sending emails out to customers. Thoughts for the Week John - You have to have a plan, and force yourself to follow the plan. Josh - Floundering… Chuck - Keep moving forward
Dec. 27, 2017
0:15 We’re Live ! Josh and Chuck speak with special guest, Ricky of the Poodle Team. Josh mentions that John is on a cruise with no internet connection. Josh and Chuck talk with Rick about the funny name of the subgroup Poodle Team. 2:00 Rick explains how the team came up with the team name. Josh talks about not having time to participate in the team mixer. Chuck and Rick talk about when they first met at the code camp conference. 5:00 Rick talks about running a software consulting company in Salt Lake City. Rick talks about his entrepreneurial background and the shifts into new ideas. Rick says he hates doing the consulting business. But he is trying to start another business along with this. 11:00 EntreProgrammers talks about how to grow a business with Rick. Josh ask who are his customers currently. Rick mentions he focus on higher education and interactive games. Rick talks about 3D mapping and the interactive projects. 15:00 Rick talks about the frustrations he encounters while building his consulting business. Josh and Chuck give advice. Josh asked if he is exploring new niches. 17:00 EntreProgrammers talk about how their sales work and signing contracts. Josh talks about working in Higher education, and how shifting to a different industry would help Rick make more money doing the same thing. 21:00 Josh talks about the dysfunctional operations at a higher education level. It is like corporate on steroids. Josh talks about the work he was doing at TrackAbout. Rick mentions moving to Healthcare and the difference in operations in that industry. Josh tells a story about doing SharePoint development. 28:00 Josh talks about Lifers. Josh asks Rick about his specialization. Rick says he is excellent at picking out what the customers need in a program and sending that to programmers. Josh asks Rick what was his most successful project or client. 36:00 Josh talks about his role and expectations versus Johns role and expectations in the business. EntreProgarmmers talk about being in control and making their own money and being an entrepreneur. Josh talks about switching out industries and not wanting to go back to a regular job. Chuck says he agrees and knows how to build a business. 43:00 The EntreProgarmmers talks about the strategies to get a job. Chuck mentions setting up interviews for CES and trying to get sponsors to fund the trip. Chuck talks about the coming conferences and how he is lining up sponsorships to fund the trips to the conferences. Chuck mentioned tactics from the book Pragmatic Thinker. 50:00 Josh and Chuck talk about the skills needed to build a business with Rick. Chuck talks about investing in camera equipment the plans for conferences. Chuck talks about travel costs and expense cutting with a service. 1:00:00 Chuck talks about his Drip account and his other needs in the new year. Chuck says he is getting emails about Elixer and React Podcasts, and particularly the View. Chuck says he has been doing all the Indiegogo for the upcoming shows. Josh says he loves WooCommerce. 1:03:00 Josh says he has been converting their views to a streaming version. Also, they finally got their audiobook is on the market. Josh is off next week. Thoughts for the Week Chuck - Take some time for the family Josh - Mental Adjustments Rick - All it takes is all you got.
Dec. 19, 2017
0:15 We’re live! Josh points out most people have profiles pictures of themselves in the driver seats of their cars. Chuck talks about acquiring sponsorship for NG Conf Atlanta. So his idea to get it paid for is working out. Chuck talks about the logistics of the sponsorship and possibly getting a DSLR camera for the recording.  4:45 Josh jokes about the details of Chuck's sponsorship. Chuck talks about doing professional videos for the interviews. Chuck discusses what the rest of the sponsorships could look like for the upcoming conferences.  10:00 Josh asks about recurring bill for the sponsors on Chuck's network. Chuck talks about how the billing is set up for the sponsors. Chuck talks about the analytics he wants to incorporate into his sponsorship program.  15:00 Chuck talks about his sponsor Linode and possibly getting Digital Ocean onboard for sponsoring trips instead of podcasts episodes. Also, so up to the minute updates on sponsoring individual sponsors on the Dev Chat TV podcast network.  17:00 Chuck talks about how the new hire is working out as far as booking  guests for episodes. Chuck says he is booked out far in advance for most of the big show on Dev Chat TV. Chuck talk about having a social media person do the postings and sharing. Chuck says this social media person is hired to help with the growth of the podcasts in general.  21:00 Chuck talks more about starting new shows or React and getting funding by Indiegogo or crowdfunding. Chuck talks about the ideas for growth starting new shows. Josh says he is excited about Chuck's business and the growth is really starting to pick up.  27:00 Chuck says this all happening because he is not self-sabotaging and realizing he can make his business grow. Chuck talks about his success goals for the upcoming year. Chuck mention he turned 38 this past week.  30:00 John talks about doing more affiliate launches and getting their new hires to do SEO. Josh talks about the gift for programmers launch and traffic.  Josh talks about traffic and details with Amazon.  Josh and John talk about the commission structure of Amazon.  40:00 Josh talks about search volume and search ranking with Amazon. Also some optimization talk with Google and analytics. Josh talk about Manny’s book summaries. Josh talks about writing emails in real-time.  45:00 Josh talks about his email marketing strategy this past week, despite some challenges and wins. Chuck asked if this is going through a Plinko machine.   50:00 Josh talks about experimenting with offering a bonus and not offering a bonus. He learns the bonus does not matter. 55:00 Josh talks about how nobody watches the video that was in an email. But the sales came from Youtube. Josh talks about doing giveaways and other kinds of lead generation ideas.  Thought for the week Chuck -  Do the stuff you know you need to do. Put the system in place.  Josh - Do a Colby test… or an assessment test of sorts
Dec. 12, 2017
0:15 We’re are alive! EntreProgrammers joke about ending on episode 199 with some cliffhangers. EntreProgarmmers talk about BS TV show endings that suck. 3:30 John mentions hiring a new SEO person and soon a writer to join Simple Programmer. Josh talks but some new on search formats on Google mobile. Josh says this is a tactic from Google to only click on Google Ads, rather than clicking through to actual sites. 8:00 Josh talks about, what if ISPs charges to be on YouTube. Thinning of the herd or channels. John says you need to be willing to take the anit-fragile approach and adapted to the changes. 11:00 Chuck talks about government or FCC control of the internet. John talks about how monopolies work when you are a billionaire. EntreProgarmmers discuss government control of the internet and the talk about net neutrality. John further gives his thought on new neutrality and herd mentality. 22:00 Josh mentions a death threat at Simple Programmer. But, generally a great month for product sales and launches. John and Josh talk about the book sales and finally seeing the revenue this month. John mentions reading the book Profit First. John mentions that they already have been taking profits first in Simple Programmer. 28:00 Josh talks about taking a budget amount for themselves for business expenses and payroll. John asks, where can we put our money to grow the revenue since expenses are low at the time. John talks about growing the company to the point where your hires are hiring people. 32:00 Johns said that were trying to launch the audiobook next week, but it looks unlikely. Audible has some other plans to review the book before it is published. EntreProgrammers discuss the Kindle and Audible books and how to choose to publish. 36:00 Chuck talks about being sick and not being able to send out important emails. Also, some talks about getting support on Patreon for some new launches conference and podcasts. 38:00 Chuck talks about possibly selling The Freelancer’s Show. Chuck mentions the new features on Podwrench and the slick automation functions. Chuck talks about hiring Michelle, to help with booking podcasts guest for the shows. Also a new hire for social media stuff. 42:00 Chuck mention moving to the app called Convo, instead of Slack. Chuck also mentions doing some work for growing the podcast business. Chuck mentions that Linode also renewed for the rest of the year. 46:00 Chuck talks about reaching the NG Atlanta and Angular conference to do some interview for Angular podcasts. Chuck talks about his plans do interview at conferences and do networking in the next year. 53:00 Chuck talks about learning about the Netty Pot and cleaning out sinus. Chuck talks about plugging away to find great hires. Looking for people who don’t need to be managed Thoughts of the Week Chuck - It hurts to move up to the top. Josh - Trying to help people remove barriers. John - Project forward 5 years a decision. No matter what you do, you’re going to get burned. So you might as well make a decision, rather do nothing.