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Um, there's so much going on. That's why I'm laughing. 37 00:02:17.110 --> 00:02:20.539 But have you seen, um, have you seen the interview? 38 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.500 There's an interview going around. I think it might've been 39 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:27.560 channel five KTLA with the former mayor, mayor, uh, Karen Bass. 40 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.139 I felt, she sounds like she just won the Superbowl. 41 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:36.009 I'm like, wait, uh, you actually just lost an election. Um, 42 00:02:37.210 --> 00:02:40.289 you should, shouldn't you be sad crying into your beer? 43 00:02:40.370 --> 00:02:44.009 And she's kind of like, woohoo, I'm free. Can you 44 00:02:44.090 --> 00:02:47.759 play that, Miles? Do we have that? Yeah, in a second. 45 00:02:48.460 --> 00:02:52.759 I'm happy for her, not so happy for us. I 46 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.500 say that not because I think we're going to hell 47 00:02:55.539 --> 00:02:58.819 in a handbasket. I'm not that girl. I always think 48 00:02:59.810 --> 00:03:03.289 progress is possible. And I love that the city council 49 00:03:03.330 --> 00:03:07.830 made nice with the new mayor yesterday, even though none 50 00:03:07.949 --> 00:03:11.460 of them endorsed her, not a single one of them 51 00:03:12.030 --> 00:03:16.939 endorsed her. Hopefully they'll all play nice. You know, you 52 00:03:16.979 --> 00:03:20.500 do wonder about someone's ability to play nice in the 53 00:03:20.539 --> 00:03:24.080 sandbox when none of their colleagues endorses them. But it's 54 00:03:24.219 --> 00:03:29.229 also true that endorsing someone other than the sitting mayor 55 00:03:29.969 --> 00:03:33.789 could present a problem if the sitting mayor wins. So 56 00:03:35.030 --> 00:03:38.479 there's a lot to factor in there and I'm Glad 57 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.210 everybody made nice. Nithya Raman went before the city council. 58 00:03:42.250 --> 00:03:46.729 She's our mayor-elect. She said nice things. She said one 59 00:03:46.789 --> 00:03:51.250 nice thing about every council member, which was very good. 60 00:03:51.270 --> 00:03:54.509 I mean, I feel like it was a major olive branch. Okay, 61 00:03:54.569 --> 00:03:59.020 like let's let bygones be bygones and get to work 62 00:03:59.099 --> 00:04:01.139 for the city. That's what we want, right? We don't 63 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:07.280 want long, drawn-out infighting, which does sometimes happen after elections. 64 00:04:07.750 --> 00:04:09.729 And by sometimes, I mean a lot of the time. 65 00:04:10.930 --> 00:04:16.000 So yay, they all did kumbaya and held hands. And 66 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:17.980 that's a good thing. That's good for you. It's good 67 00:04:18.019 --> 00:04:21.300 for me. It's good for the city of Los Angeles. 68 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:25.360 And now let's see what they're going to do. What 69 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:31.470 they're going to do. So this was the mayor. She's 70 00:04:31.509 --> 00:04:34.149 still the mayor, I think, until December 14th when they 71 00:04:34.170 --> 00:04:38.029 swear in the new mayor. This is what she had 72 00:04:38.069 --> 00:04:43.420 to say about her. What is now a pretty commanding loss. 73 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.040 I mean, in the beginning it looked close, but now 74 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:55.180 it's like 54%. That's, that's, yeah, that's quite a shellacking. 75 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:58.740 As Barack Obama would say, let's listen to Mayor Karen Bass. 76 00:04:59.579 --> 00:05:03.699 Oh, I got a lot of ideas. The voters made 77 00:05:03.740 --> 00:05:10.279 a decision and democracy prevails. And I wish former councilwoman, 78 00:05:10.699 --> 00:05:14.120 soon to be mayor, Nithya Raman, the best of wishes. 79 00:05:14.819 --> 00:05:16.819 Because I have always. 80 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.490 Been and will continue to always be about the city 81 00:05:20.620 --> 00:05:23.490 of Los Angeles and what will help the city prosper. 82 00:05:24.129 --> 00:05:24.930 What's next for you? 83 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:26.360 What'd you say? 84 00:05:26.420 --> 00:05:27.360 What's the next chapter? 85 00:05:28.310 --> 00:05:31.470 Oh, I got a lot of ideas. 86 00:05:31.490 --> 00:05:32.449 Staying in politics? 87 00:05:33.829 --> 00:05:35.449 No. 88 00:05:35.550 --> 00:05:36.970 But, you know, I mean, listen. 89 00:05:37.689 --> 00:05:42.120 I have spent my entire life devoted to service, never 90 00:05:42.189 --> 00:05:46.120 thinking about what do I want to do personally. 91 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:47.980 That moment is here. 92 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:49.800 What did it mean to you to serve this city 93 00:05:49.860 --> 00:05:50.259 as mayor? 94 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:55.019 The greatest honor possible. The culmination of a life's work. 95 00:05:55.709 --> 00:05:57.170 It felt like full circle. 96 00:05:58.269 --> 00:06:03.470 She said no. You know, she actually said highly doubtful 97 00:06:03.529 --> 00:06:07.089 to another reporter. So I can see the mayor, you know, 98 00:06:07.149 --> 00:06:12.910 she was appointed to a cabinet secretary position or an ambassadorship. 99 00:06:12.990 --> 00:06:15.730 I can see her maybe doing that. But I love 100 00:06:15.769 --> 00:06:18.290 when she said, I never thought about what I personally 101 00:06:18.350 --> 00:06:20.790 wanted to do. And I think for a lot of activists, 102 00:06:20.810 --> 00:06:23.689 because that's how she started. She started as a community organizer. 103 00:06:24.300 --> 00:06:27.939 An activist, that's not the agenda. The agenda is how 104 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:33.269 do I best serve the city, the community organization, my 105 00:06:33.310 --> 00:06:39.410 constituency as an assemblywoman, as a congresswoman, as a mayor. 106 00:06:39.449 --> 00:06:44.389 So that little moment of that time has come was giving, 107 00:06:44.810 --> 00:06:48.939 for me, was giving, I'm going to Disneyland. And I'm 108 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.819 not mad at that. It was a rough election. I

109 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.600 also love the way that she passed the baton. Very classy, 110 00:06:54.639 --> 00:07:00.600 very graceful to Council Member Nithya Raman, who is the mayor-elect. 111 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.930 The other thing I do, I do think it's kind of, 112 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:08.120 it's hard for, I'm sure, for the mayor-elect and for 113 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.379 the mayor to make a switch that fast. But I 114 00:07:11.459 --> 00:07:14.120 think it's good for the city because we don't need 115 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.480 to drag this on and on and on. The new 116 00:07:17.550 --> 00:07:20.879 mayor gets sworn in in a little over a month. 117 00:07:21.290 --> 00:07:25.490 So it's a very fast transition. Not like, uh, not 118 00:07:25.509 --> 00:07:30.990 like the Congress where we have to wait till January. Um, yeah. 119 00:07:31.129 --> 00:07:33.730 So good for all of them for acting like grownups. 120 00:07:33.810 --> 00:07:38.500 I think the mayor is always, always seems to be 121 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:41.360 the most grownup one in the room. And I'm here 122 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.579 for that. By the way, happy Veterans Day and thank 123 00:07:44.620 --> 00:07:48.899 you for your service. It is actually Veterans Day. And, um, 124 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:55.000 so thank you to all those who served and are serving. Well, 125 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:57.199 I guess you wouldn't still be serving if you were 126 00:07:57.220 --> 00:07:59.500 a veteran, but still, you'll be a veteran one day. 127 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:03.019 Thank you for your service. It is a holiday for 128 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:07.540 a lot of folks. Not for us, obviously. Banks are 129 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.110 closed today, though. All the banks are closed. I mean, 130 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.930 you can use your ATM, of course, but you cannot 131 00:08:15.009 --> 00:08:20.680 go into the bank today. Post offices are closed. DMVs libraries, 132 00:08:20.779 --> 00:08:23.959 public schools, all of that closed. I envy you if 133 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.819 you're sleeping in today, but then you wouldn't be hearing me. 134 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.970 But happy Veterans Day. They do give you free entrance 135 00:08:32.090 --> 00:08:35.970 for national parks, as long as you're a citizen. So 136 00:08:36.009 --> 00:08:39.009 if you are near a national park, get outside if 137 00:08:39.029 --> 00:08:41.990 you got the day off. But it is the day 138 00:08:42.070 --> 00:08:47.509 that we pay tribute to our veterans. A lot of 139 00:08:47.580 --> 00:08:50.639 stores have sales too, you know. I don't know, I 140 00:08:50.659 --> 00:08:56.840 guess any excuse for a sale. But it is important 141 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.580 that we honor our veterans. 142 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:00.019 Question, Dominique. 143 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:01.120 Say what? 144 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:03.740 Is Beach National Park, is that considered the same thing? 145 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.179 Like is beach parking free the same way as national parks? 146 00:09:06.379 --> 00:09:09.360 Some beaches are national parks. Most of our beaches are L.A. 147 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:09.759 County. 148 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:10.299 Okay. 149 00:09:10.500 --> 00:09:14.019 So that, no, you'll still have to pay. I think 150 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:16.700 the parking meters, though, if you're by, you know, like, 151 00:09:17.389 --> 00:09:20.789 Santa Monica and Venice that have those really expensive parking meters. 152 00:09:20.809 --> 00:09:23.960 You have to pay 25 cents every five minutes. I 153 00:09:23.980 --> 00:09:29.759 think those are free today. But no, not those parks. 154 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:34.639 I think there's some parks along our coastline way up 155 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.259 north that are national parks. You can look it up. 156 00:09:39.490 --> 00:09:43.330 You can duck, duck, go it. Stop saying Google it 157 00:09:43.429 --> 00:09:47.340 after yesterday. You can duck, duck, go it. They have, 158 00:09:48.100 --> 00:09:51.240 I'm putting air quotes around this, cleaned up the graffiti 159 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:57.730 towers in downtown L.A. See, this tells you how spin 160 00:09:57.789 --> 00:10:01.629 is such a big part of news. ABC7, their headline 161 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:07.019 is infamous graffiti towers in downtown LA cleaned up. If 162 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:14.059 I was writing that headline, it would say famous LA 163 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:22.389 art installation blotted out By developers. See, that shows you 164 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:26.909 how your perspective changes the headline. They say infamous graffiti 165 00:10:26.950 --> 00:10:34.080 towers cleaned up. I would say art installation, beautiful art 166 00:10:34.149 --> 00:10:39.700 installation blotted out by downtown developers. Well, whichever headline you 167 00:10:39.740 --> 00:10:44.100 subscribe to, they're covering that up. They are calling it 168 00:10:44.139 --> 00:10:46.379 an eyesore. It's funny to me, though, because I saw 169 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.019 so many tourists taking pictures in front of it. And 170 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:50.980 I was taking pictures in front of it, and I'm 171 00:10:51.059 --> 00:10:55.899 not a tourist. They are not all the way done, 172 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:01.340 but it's mostly painted over. I hate it. I think 173 00:11:02.500 --> 00:11:05.519 the artists who did it did a beautiful thing, and 174 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.679 it's crazy to me that blocks away at a museum 175 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.610 there's something that looks just like it that people are 176 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:14.990 paying money to go and see. But apparently a couple 177 00:11:15.029 --> 00:11:19.009 of development companies have teamed up to finish those towers. 178 00:11:20.409 --> 00:11:23.620 And after a Chinese company ran out of money partway 179 00:11:23.659 --> 00:11:31.039 through

building them, Now they made a deal through bankruptcy court. 180 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.679 A judge approved that sale, and they are supposed to 181 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:40.149 be completing these towers. It's going to cost about $ 850 182 00:11:39.710 --> 00:11:44.309 million to finish that. They claim it's more than halfway done, 183 00:11:45.269 --> 00:11:50.500 and it's going to have 504 apartments. a luxury hotel 184 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.639 and retail space. They say they're going to have all 185 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:59.240 the graffiti and the new exterior done before the Olympics 186 00:12:00.419 --> 00:12:05.409 and that people will be living in there by 2028. Ah, 187 00:12:05.450 --> 00:12:10.149 the disrespect of original artwork. 504 units, that's a lot 188 00:12:10.190 --> 00:12:13.889 of housing. But I was having a conversation with a 189 00:12:13.909 --> 00:12:15.769 friend the other day. I feel like all this housing 190 00:12:15.809 --> 00:12:18.289 or a lot of this housing is. 191 00:12:20.509 --> 00:12:23.769 Not for us, because nobody can afford it. It's amazing 192 00:12:23.889 --> 00:12:27.909 how many of these buildings are just sitting there. You 193 00:12:27.950 --> 00:12:30.350 look up and down Crenshaw, these new buildings, you see 194 00:12:30.529 --> 00:12:33.830 one or two apartments out of a whole huge building 195 00:12:34.169 --> 00:12:38.009 that look like someone's in there. The same with Inglewood. 196 00:12:39.250 --> 00:12:43.419 People cannot afford them. They're new, they're convenient, they're tiny, 197 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.799 they're expensive. And that's why I wish the city... would 198 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.000 buy these buildings, the city and the county would buy 199 00:12:51.059 --> 00:12:55.870 some of these buildings, and either do co-ops like they 200 00:12:55.899 --> 00:12:58.120 do in New York, where you let people buy them 201 00:12:58.309 --> 00:13:02.970 over time, like rent-to-own type scenario, for working-class and middle-class 202 00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:10.509 families at affordable rates, or rent them out. Not just, yes, okay, 203 00:13:11.149 --> 00:13:15.389 the unhoused, but also for people who are rent-burdened, you know? 204 00:13:16.470 --> 00:13:16.830 Because. 205 00:13:17.570 --> 00:13:19.809 If you work a minimum wage job or two or three, 206 00:13:19.850 --> 00:13:23.519 which is probably what you're doing to afford L.A., then 207 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:29.700 you cannot afford to live in the city. And that 208 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:31.460 needs to change. We have to be able to afford 209 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.519 to live where we work. We shouldn't have to drive long, 210 00:13:33.539 --> 00:13:37.750 long distances to go to a minimum wage or low 211 00:13:37.809 --> 00:13:43.309 wage job. And so that's why I say it's time 212 00:13:43.350 --> 00:13:45.809 for the city and the county. I'm not talking about projects. 213 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.039

Housing projects, no shade to the housing projects. I'm talking 214 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:53.320 about social housing. You got something to say about any 215 00:13:53.360 --> 00:14:00.639 of these things? 800-920-1580. I'm Dominique DiPrima for Unapologetically Progressive KBLA. 216 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:05.090 Talk 1580. Right now you got star power and legal 217 00:14:05.129 --> 00:14:09.809 power in the studio. He is an R & B singer, writer, artist, 218 00:14:10.750 --> 00:14:15.649 and a civil rights attorney. And contributor to this show, 219 00:14:15.769 --> 00:14:18.409 Attorney Chris Martin. Good morning. 220 00:14:18.710 --> 00:14:19.629 Good morning. How's it going? 221 00:14:19.669 --> 00:14:22.190 Doc Martin, as you are known on social media. 222 00:14:22.389 --> 00:14:23.049 That's right. 223 00:14:23.870 --> 00:14:27.149 And I should say candidate because you ran for the 9th. 224 00:14:28.029 --> 00:14:32.840 And there was some shenanigans with the registrar voters where 225 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:36.019 they didn't put your name on the ballot. You ran 226 00:14:36.059 --> 00:14:37.879 for the 9th city council district. 227 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:38.700 Absolutely. 228 00:14:38.740 --> 00:14:42.580 I was a pretty serious candidate, um, for, uh, city 229 00:14:42.620 --> 00:14:46.299 council in the ninth district. And honestly, uh, you know, 230 00:14:46.610 --> 00:14:49.649 media newspapers and, you know, things like that positioned me 231 00:14:49.889 --> 00:14:52.850 as potentially the last serious black candidate to ever like 232 00:14:52.970 --> 00:14:55.389 run for the district. You know, you can read the 233 00:14:55.429 --> 00:14:59.480 wave newspaper about, you know, that other, uh, newspaper sources, 234 00:15:00.100 --> 00:15:03.100 but yes, like you said, some shenanigans were in place to, 235 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:04.559 you know, keep me from being on the ballot. 236 00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:07.850 So, um, Even though you had a ton of signatures. 237 00:15:07.929 --> 00:15:12.070 I mean, which you're an activist. I've seen you many 238 00:15:12.110 --> 00:15:15.590 a time at protests and things with Black Lives Matter. 239 00:15:15.610 --> 00:15:17.169 You know how to organize people. You know how to 240 00:15:17.210 --> 00:15:20.250 get signatures. That's not even a question. So it's weird 241 00:15:20.289 --> 00:15:23.049 that I found it fishy, to be honest with you. 242 00:15:23.210 --> 00:15:23.610 Yeah. 243 00:15:23.629 --> 00:15:26.149 I mean, I turned in more signatures than virtually all 244 00:15:26.169 --> 00:15:28.879 of the candidates who ran. 245 00:15:28.649 --> 00:15:29.919 For the office. 246 00:15:31.700 --> 00:15:31.879 Well. 247 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:35.940 you ended up not endorsing either of the two candidates 248 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.080 for the ninth district. 249 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:38.100 Yeah. 250 00:15:38.259 --> 00:15:42.240 But they are, it's like Mississippi and South LA. They're

251 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:43.159 still counting, right? 252 00:15:43.460 --> 00:15:43.990 I know. 253 00:15:44.610 --> 00:15:48.549 And it just goes to show you that every vote matters. 254 00:15:49.129 --> 00:15:52.929 Your vote counts, right? They're going to war right now 255 00:15:53.029 --> 00:15:57.929 over these last little 150 votes that separate Estuardo and 256 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:02.809 Jose Ugarte. So it's just like, It's a slim, razor-thin 257 00:16:03.210 --> 00:16:03.909 margin area there. 258 00:16:04.769 --> 00:16:08.889 Yeah, I mean, that's 150 votes. It's crazy. That's actually 259 00:16:08.909 --> 00:16:11.799 even closer than Mississippi. Like, I think we have enough 260 00:16:11.860 --> 00:16:13.879 votes in our phone to sway the election. 261 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:14.820 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 262 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.639 You know, you could just call people. 263 00:16:16.820 --> 00:16:17.019 Yep. 264 00:16:18.340 --> 00:16:25.620 And so I guess they're going to keep, they're probably 265 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:26.450 going to recount. 266 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:30.679 Yeah, I would imagine so. I mean, neither person is 267 00:16:30.700 --> 00:16:33.509 going to accept the loss like this close. You know, 268 00:16:33.529 --> 00:16:36.090 they're going to have to recount those things, I would imagine, 269 00:16:36.210 --> 00:16:38.330 regardless of who ends up winning the thing. 270 00:16:39.610 --> 00:16:42.389 Yeah, well, so it'll be a while. One, of course, 271 00:16:42.809 --> 00:16:49.899 is a former staffer to Curran Price, who is the 272 00:16:49.940 --> 00:16:53.500 current council member. And the other one is a member 273 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:58.769 of ACE, the Activist Organization Around Housing. Now, Garte is 274 00:16:58.850 --> 00:17:02.210 saying that Masariegos, who's the challenger, may have cheated. 275 00:17:04.430 --> 00:17:08.849 Yeah. I mean, they both, you know, it's an ugly race, right? 276 00:17:08.890 --> 00:17:12.819 I mean, both candidates are going to sling mud back 277 00:17:12.859 --> 00:17:13.970 and forth at each other. 278 00:17:14.180 --> 00:17:14.460 Really? 279 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.359 I mean, and that's just the way it is. 280 00:17:16.500 --> 00:17:18.180 Well, that's what we do, I guess. That's why it 281 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.460 was so funny to me. I mean, I was happy, 282 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:22.140 but funny to watch the. 283 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:27.579 Folks in city council making nice with the new mayor yesterday. 284 00:17:27.619 --> 00:17:27.940 Right. 285 00:17:28.299 --> 00:17:31.039 They all said nice things to each other and they 286 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.500 all gave each other a gold star and hopefully they 287 00:17:33.539 --> 00:17:34.400 can keep it going. 288 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:35.039 Right. 289 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:35.319 Yeah. 290 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:35.819 Hopefully. 291 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:36.480 Yeah. 292 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.819 Hopefully they can keep it going and get some stuff done. 293 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.960 Do you think they will though? I don't know if 294 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:42.019 they'll be able to keep it going. 295 00:17:43.029 --> 00:17:45.130 I don't know either, but I hope for the city 296 00:17:45.150 --> 00:17:49.509 of LA, you know, that, um, that people can follow 297 00:17:49.549 --> 00:17:52.450 the advice of the mayor and their own advice. 298 00:17:52.630 --> 00:17:52.869 Right. 299 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.859 And get to work for the people of the city. 300 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:55.420 Yeah. 301 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.950 I'm, you know, I'm, yeah, I'm reading about folks who 302 00:18:01.009 --> 00:18:04.609 are getting picked and appointed for that. And I'm going 303 00:18:04.650 --> 00:18:06.650 to just keep praying. 304 00:18:06.869 --> 00:18:07.289 Right. 305 00:18:07.329 --> 00:18:10.559 I'm going to just keep praying because I think as 306 00:18:10.619 --> 00:18:12.799 Jasmine Kenick said on this show, we got to wish 307 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:15.480 whoever you voted for, you got to wish the new 308 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.000 mayor success because that's the success of your city. 309 00:18:19.420 --> 00:18:19.700 Right. 310 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:24.920 And ultimately the success of, you know, Of all of us, right? 311 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:27.660 If the mayor does a good job with the city, 312 00:18:27.700 --> 00:18:30.079 that benefits all of us. So, yeah, we've got to 313 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.440 root for her to do her thing. 314 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:38.039 So we'll start this and we'll complete it after news, traffic, 315 00:18:38.059 --> 00:18:42.359 and sports. Sheriff Luna won by a landslide. 316 00:18:42.380 --> 00:18:42.819 Yes, he did. 317 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:47.950 Praise God. I know that sounds weird, you know, as 318 00:18:48.029 --> 00:18:51.910 a sheriff, but the alternative was very problematic. 319 00:18:52.009 --> 00:18:52.210 Sure. 320 00:18:52.509 --> 00:19:00.150 So Sheriff Luna wins and immediately puts forth a stronger 321 00:19:00.890 --> 00:19:03.880 policy to eradicate gangs. He had a really weak sauce 322 00:19:03.980 --> 00:19:07.279 one that he did last term, and now he says 323 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:08.299 it's evolved. 324 00:19:08.660 --> 00:19:08.980 Right. 325 00:19:09.339 --> 00:19:10.299 That's what he says, huh? 326 00:19:10.579 --> 00:19:10.819 Yeah. 327 00:19:10.940 --> 00:19:11.619 What do you make of that? 328 00:19:13.700 --> 00:19:16.900 I think we have to be real about what's happening 329 00:19:17.849 --> 00:19:22.250 within the L.A. County Sheriff's Department. I think the department 330 00:19:22.289 --> 00:19:28.809 coming out and formally acknowledging and banning deputy gangs is 331 00:19:28.930 --> 00:19:33.670 a long overdue admission of what black and brown folks 332 00:19:35.390 --> 00:19:39.450 in these communities in South L.A. and throughout

L.A. County 333 00:19:39.470 --> 00:19:43.410 have known and lived through for decades. Because for years, 334 00:19:43.450 --> 00:19:47.559 their official stance was just to deny and minimize and 335 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:50.890 pretend that these deputy gangs and deputy cliques like the 336 00:19:50.930 --> 00:19:56.339 banditos or the executioners or the regulators didn't exist so 337 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:01.920 yes on paper this is you know a good step 338 00:20:01.980 --> 00:20:04.619 forward it's a small step forward but I can tell 339 00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:08.380 you Dominique that as a black attorney a black civil 340 00:20:08.420 --> 00:20:11.069 rights attorney who has sat in the room across the 341 00:20:11.150 --> 00:20:16.410 table taking depositions of these law enforcement officers under oath, 342 00:20:17.130 --> 00:20:20.009 I need our community to understand that there is a 343 00:20:20.089 --> 00:20:24.269 massive gap between a policy on paper and accountability in 344 00:20:24.309 --> 00:20:27.349 real life. Because, you know, for me, when I sit 345 00:20:27.390 --> 00:20:31.039 across the table from an officer at a deposition and I, 346 00:20:31.470 --> 00:20:34.730 you know, ask them at point blank range, you know, 347 00:20:34.789 --> 00:20:38.690 are you in a deputy gang? They're never going to 348 00:20:38.789 --> 00:20:39.569 actually admit that. 349 00:20:39.910 --> 00:20:40.109 Right. 350 00:20:40.390 --> 00:20:43.650 They're never going to say yes. They're going to give 351 00:20:43.690 --> 00:20:46.490 you a flat no. And the moment that you try 352 00:20:46.509 --> 00:20:49.910 to verify that by, you know, asking to see their 353 00:20:49.970 --> 00:20:53.640 tattoos on their legs or their arms or things like 354 00:20:53.740 --> 00:20:57.539 that or ask about any, you know, gang insignias. 355 00:20:58.180 --> 00:20:58.420 Right. 356 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:02.099 Their attorneys are going to object to that. 357 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.779 And the courts have protected them so far. And this 358 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.599 I don't understand because they don't protect gang members that way. 359 00:21:07.980 --> 00:21:10.700 Gang members, I mean, and they are gang members. If 360 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.019 you're just a street gang member and not a sheriff's 361 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.119 gang member, you have to show your tattoos. 362 00:21:15.220 --> 00:21:16.160 Yes, yes. 363 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:20.180 So why do cops get special protections to be criminals? 364 00:21:20.259 --> 00:21:22.240 That seems so counterintuitive. 365 00:21:22.259 --> 00:21:24.180 Yeah, that's exactly what it is. 366 00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.900 They get special privacy protections that the average person doesn't have. 367 00:21:28.339 --> 00:21:30.960 To be a criminal, though, I mean, I get special 368 00:21:31.019 --> 00:21:34.170 privacy protection about where you live or something. But to 369 00:21:34.289 --> 00:21:36.210 show your gang tattoo? 370 00:21:36.650 --> 00:21:37.009 Yeah. 371 00:21:37.049 --> 00:21:38.150 Make it make sense. 372 00:21:38.329 --> 00:21:39.829 Make it make sense. It doesn't make sense. 373 00:21:39.849 --> 00:21:41.950 The only way to get into all of that is 374 00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:47.240 to go through expensive and time-consuming litigation, things called motions 375 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.640 to compel, calling the magistrate up, having these long and 376 00:21:51.700 --> 00:21:56.519 drawn-out hearings to finally get a motion granted to force 377 00:21:57.019 --> 00:22:01.740 or compel officer to then be able to show their tattoos. 378 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:03.119 That's crazy. 379 00:22:03.140 --> 00:22:04.920 That could take months and that's very expensive. 380 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.109 We've got news, traffic, and sports, then more on KBLA 381 00:22:08.140 --> 00:22:11.569 Talk 1580. Attorney Chris Martin is here. We were talking 382 00:22:11.630 --> 00:22:16.769 about the LA Sheriff's gangs, their new policy, and I 383 00:22:16.789 --> 00:22:19.990 guess what makes it stricter is that now it's not 384 00:22:20.109 --> 00:22:24.890 just specifically criminal gangs, but any unauthorized click, and it 385 00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:31.450 goes a little further in kind of holding people accountable. 386 00:22:32.289 --> 00:22:34.950 It has a stricter definition, right, of what a gang is. 387 00:22:35.410 --> 00:22:36.589 Right, right, right, yeah. 388 00:22:36.829 --> 00:22:39.529 I mean, and of course, if you're in a gang, 389 00:22:39.569 --> 00:22:42.740 they say that you can be fired or suspended or 390 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:47.559 some disciplinary action can be taken against you. But what 391 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.730 is the reality of... What's going to happen, right? That's 392 00:22:51.769 --> 00:22:55.410 what you got to think about. Perhaps nowadays, you know, 393 00:22:55.430 --> 00:22:58.450 they're not going to get these tattoos anymore, right? There's 394 00:22:58.470 --> 00:23:00.099 going to be different ways that they're going to be 395 00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:03.359 able to vet somebody to bring them into the gang. 396 00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:06.220 I think that the gangs will still exist. They'll just evolve. 397 00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:09.680 Yeah, they can have a, you know, a chain instead 398 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:10.119 of a tattoo. 399 00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:10.420 Yeah. 400 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.880 I mean, but the thing about it is I found 401 00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.089 it awfully convenient. So Sheriff Robert Luna comes out with 402 00:23:16.109 --> 00:23:18.329 this new policy, right? He says it has to go 403 00:23:18.369 --> 00:23:19.990 to meet and confer, which is when they go to 404 00:23:20.029 --> 00:23:23.910 the unions and decide whether the union can get on 405 00:23:23.950 --> 00:23:26.009 the same page with the new policy. That would be 406 00:23:26.049 -->

00:23:31.049 the A-Labs, which is the sheriff's union. The next day, 407 00:23:31.150 --> 00:23:33.430 the sheriff comes back and says, oh, we had meet 408 00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:36.599 and confer. Meet and confer can take months. I've never 409 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.440 heard of a one-day meet and confer. He's like, we 410 00:23:39.500 --> 00:23:42.769 all good. We clear my new policy. Ta-da! And then 411 00:23:42.910 --> 00:23:48.069 the next day, the L.A. County Board of Supervisors passes 412 00:23:48.089 --> 00:23:52.559 a motion to expose the deputy gangs. 413 00:23:52.819 --> 00:23:54.740 Right. So you think he was trying to get out 414 00:23:54.779 --> 00:23:56.839 in front of the Board of Supervisors. 415 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.980 I think they fast-tracked the heck out of that new 416 00:24:00.099 --> 00:24:01.619 shiny policy. Well, we don't see. 417 00:24:01.660 --> 00:24:03.059 We don't need you to investigate. 418 00:24:03.099 --> 00:24:07.799 We got this. We got this. Nevertheless, the board of supervisors, 419 00:24:07.900 --> 00:24:15.119 after delaying this motion by Supervisor Mitchell, has finally passed it. 420 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:19.039 They waited until after the election, I guess. And, you know, 421 00:24:19.140 --> 00:24:21.339 that wasn't on Mitchell. That was the other supes that 422 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:26.940 delayed it. The motion directs the Sheriff's Department, County Council, 423 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:30.630 and the L.A. County Sheriff's Civilian Oversight Commission and the 424 00:24:30.690 --> 00:24:33.950 Office of the Inspector General to to create a framework 425 00:24:34.009 --> 00:24:37.789 for identifying deputy gangs and secret groups in the department. 426 00:24:40.410 --> 00:24:40.759 Wow. 427 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.880 But ta-da, there's already a shiny new policy. 428 00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:44.380 Right. 429 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.000 So he gets to take the credit for, you know, 430 00:24:47.059 --> 00:24:48.880 hopping out in front of this and doing it before 431 00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:50.200 the Board of Supervisors does it. 432 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:55.880 Yeah. And what I hope is that this doesn't deter 433 00:24:55.940 --> 00:25:01.980 the investigation from being thorough. Because even if somehow... Magically, 434 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:09.549 this policy stopped future gang activity magically within the department. 435 00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.789 We still have to look at what's happened and how 436 00:25:11.849 --> 00:25:13.569 it's affected existing cases. 437 00:25:13.589 --> 00:25:13.970 Right. 438 00:25:14.710 --> 00:25:14.950 Right. 439 00:25:15.349 --> 00:25:15.950 Absolutely. 440 00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:18.710 Because that could end up overturning convictions and all kinds 441 00:25:18.769 --> 00:25:19.109 of things. 442 00:25:19.230 --> 00:25:21.309 It should. It should. 443 00:25:22.329 --> 00:25:25.630 But the reality is, will it? Not without a fight. 444 00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:29.960 Not without a fight. Nothing happens without a fight. Even 445 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.180 if they do violate these policies, nothing happens without a fight. 446 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:37.819 It's still going to take them being sued. It's still 447 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.660 going to take them losing money for things to really, 448 00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:45.029 really continue to change in a progressive way. 449 00:25:47.109 --> 00:25:47.369 Yeah. 450 00:25:47.670 --> 00:25:50.809 Well, I mean, is that because of the culture of 451 00:25:51.430 --> 00:25:55.829 the law enforcement, of policing, or is it because of 452 00:25:55.869 --> 00:25:58.910 the county moving slow, or is it because... I mean, 453 00:25:59.009 --> 00:26:00.509 why does it take so long? 454 00:26:05.089 --> 00:26:06.029 That's a great question. 455 00:26:06.049 --> 00:26:07.950 Let me tell you something. If we had a gang 456 00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:10.509 at KBLA, they would be over here in 10 minutes. 457 00:26:10.549 --> 00:26:11.430 They'd be like that. 458 00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:11.589 Yeah. 459 00:26:11.609 --> 00:26:14.849 Let me see your ankles, arms, butt. Where's the tattoo? 460 00:26:14.890 --> 00:26:15.670 Where's the chain? 461 00:26:15.829 --> 00:26:16.589 All of that. 462 00:26:16.730 --> 00:26:16.970 Yeah. 463 00:26:17.029 --> 00:26:18.349 Now you're in a database. 464 00:26:19.009 --> 00:26:22.890 Right. Right. We're the bad sheriffs in a database, right? 465 00:26:22.990 --> 00:26:23.190 Yeah. 466 00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:27.410 They should all be put into a gang database. Yeah. 467 00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:29.730 Well, one of the things it does, it gives the 468 00:26:29.750 --> 00:26:34.279 Sheriff's Department 120 days to identify and publicly name all 469 00:26:35.339 --> 00:26:37.559 gangs in its ranks. 470 00:26:37.980 --> 00:26:38.200 Yeah. 471 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:41.200 So I kind of like that because it's almost now 472 00:26:41.259 --> 00:26:44.539 they've admitted that they exist and they're illegal. But now 473 00:26:44.579 --> 00:26:45.759 we want you to name them. 474 00:26:46.859 --> 00:26:47.259 Yeah. 475 00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:50.490 I mean, you know, there's already a few well-known ones. 476 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:52.390 I think that they're just going to probably keep them 477 00:26:52.710 --> 00:26:55.329 at that. You know, the ones with those names are 478 00:26:55.349 --> 00:26:57.799 probably going to go by other names. you know, like 479 00:26:57.819 --> 00:27:01.759 the banditos or, you know, the executioners or regulators, they're 480 00:27:01.779 --> 00:27:06.519 going to call themselves something else, you know. And then 481 00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:10.420 they'll just continue to conduct business as usual and find 482 00:27:10.509 --> 00:27:13.200 out other ways to still be who they are. 483 00:27:14.569 --> 00:27:18.829 Well, okay. Yeah. Hopefully it'll make some difference. They are 484

00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:21.940 saying that they have to Make a list of all 485 00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:25.200 these cliques and gangs, even if they haven't been involved 486 00:27:25.259 --> 00:27:27.660 in criminal activity or they haven't been tied to it 487 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.839 because they may have been involved and no one knew. 488 00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:30.440 Right. 489 00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:32.559 Right. Yeah. 490 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.500 I mean, you know, it is a step in the 491 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:39.349 right direction ultimately, though, to have the policy on paper 492 00:27:39.589 --> 00:27:43.849 and to acknowledge that these gangs exist. I mean, that 493 00:27:43.890 --> 00:27:46.450 was so much of the struggle for the past couple 494 00:27:46.470 --> 00:27:49.049 of decades to even just get that much out of them. 495 00:27:49.509 --> 00:27:53.910 You know, so the fact that they have officially acknowledged that, 496 00:27:54.210 --> 00:27:56.710 you know what, that's a good thing. 497 00:27:57.509 --> 00:28:00.440 Yeah, I just think it's interesting that, you know, aside 498 00:28:00.460 --> 00:28:05.900 from the fact that he passed a weak policy before 499 00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:09.339 when he was sheriff, got criticized, then passed a stronger policy. 500 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:09.440 Yeah. 501 00:28:10.140 --> 00:28:11.990 Was it yesterday or the day before? I think it 502 00:28:12.009 --> 00:28:14.490 was the day before yesterday. Then the supervisors come down 503 00:28:14.529 --> 00:28:19.349 with this. Yeah. And all of this has to happen 504 00:28:19.430 --> 00:28:21.890 after the election. I hope that means that this is 505 00:28:21.970 --> 00:28:22.990 not just theater. 506 00:28:23.809 --> 00:28:24.289 Right. 507 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:26.049 Right. 508 00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:29.250 I mean, to me, it's given theater. You know, I'm 509 00:28:29.269 --> 00:28:32.109 not going to lie about it. Sheriffs violate policies all 510 00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:33.769 the time. The question is, what are you going to 511 00:28:33.789 --> 00:28:34.170 do about it? 512 00:28:34.630 --> 00:28:34.930 You know? 513 00:28:34.950 --> 00:28:40.119 Oh, God, check me, boo. That again. Helen Jones, you know, 514 00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:44.160 shout out to her. She testified, you know, she's the 515 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:49.190 mama of politics. Her child was killed inside the jails, 516 00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:52.099 the L.A. County Jail System. 517 00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:53.180 Yes. 518 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.279 Shout out, you know, all those organizations, including Black Lives Matter, 519 00:28:56.299 --> 00:28:59.119 Dignity and Power Now, and Justice L.A. that have been 520 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:01.819 pushing and pushing for this. 521 00:29:02.059 --> 00:29:02.359 Yes. 522 00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:06.430 I've interviewed Helen Jones a number of times. Her son 523 00:29:06.509 --> 00:29:11.089 was killed. John Horton was killed back in 2009, and 524 00:29:11.109 --> 00:29:13.230 she's been fighting this whole time. So that's got to 525 00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:14.730 feel like a big victory for her. 526 00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:14.950 Yes. 527 00:29:15.890 --> 00:29:19.690 That is a brave woman. And shout out to her. 528 00:29:20.430 --> 00:29:23.269 Yeah, shout out to her. I mean, talk about turning 529 00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:24.769 your pain into purpose. 530 00:29:25.309 --> 00:29:25.730 Yes. 531 00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:31.160 Oh, Lamika's on the phone. Is it Lamika Castillo? I 532 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.859 think it is. I don't know a lot of Lamikas. 533 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.619 Good morning. It is Lamika Castillo. Hello. 534 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:39.059 Good morning. 535 00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:42.450 I just have to jump in on this. First of all, hey, Chris. 536 00:29:42.490 --> 00:29:47.339 Y'all know Chris is my brother from another mother. We 537 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.160 started the Reimagined Child Safety Coalition together, and he's been 538 00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.880 holding it down and keeping it strong. So I always 539 00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.839 love to hear from Chris and his brilliance. And, of course, Dominique, 540 00:29:55.859 --> 00:30:00.490 thank you for being the queen of Black radio. and 541 00:30:00.509 --> 00:30:03.950 for having these powerful conversations. I wanted to chime in 542 00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:08.480 and say that, you know, with these sheriff gangs, when 543 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:13.880 we think about like gangs, street gangs, folks get, you know, 544 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.119 we see a lot of like immigrant folks who have 545 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.000 joined gangs here in the U.S. and then they've been 546 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.819 exported to other places. And then we see gang violence 547 00:30:20.859 --> 00:30:25.059 increase in other countries, right? Especially in Latin America. And 548 00:30:25.099 --> 00:30:27.200 so I want to know, Chris, your thoughts on any 549 00:30:27.269 --> 00:30:30.269 policies like You know, we fought so hard for ban 550 00:30:30.289 --> 00:30:32.309 the box to make sure people who were incarcerated in 551 00:30:32.329 --> 00:30:34.880 our communities could get jobs. I want a box that 552 00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:38.619 sheriffs would have to check, right? If they, one, I 553 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.539 want them to not be able to be a sheriff 554 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:45.079 anymore if they're part of a gang. So this 120 555 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.440 days for them to, you know, name the gangs, not enough. 556 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.220 I need you to not just name the gangs. I 557 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.119 need everybody who is a part of a gang to 558 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.569 be out. And then once they leave, how do we 559 00:30:53.609 --> 00:30:56.009 make sure that they don't just get exported someplace else 560 00:30:56.329 --> 00:30:58.819 and

start spreading their gang activity online? you know, in 561 00:30:58.900 --> 00:31:01.819 other law enforcement agencies or in any job that they 562 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.319 would take on, the same way that they've done to 563 00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:06.849 our people who have joined gangs for different reasons, for 564 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:10.009 protective reasons, for many folks, right? And then we see 565 00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:11.690 that they get, quote-unquote, exported to other places. 566 00:31:11.829 --> 00:31:13.710 So you want to send them all to El Salvador? 567 00:31:13.750 --> 00:31:20.269 Is that what you're saying? No. No, I see what 568 00:31:20.329 --> 00:31:21.130 you're saying. 569 00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:22.670 I'm not trying to be like Trump, but you know 570 00:31:22.690 --> 00:31:23.289 what I'm saying? 571 00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:24.730 I do. Yeah, go ahead, Chris. 572 00:31:24.769 --> 00:31:26.150 Yeah, I mean, the reality is. 573 00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:29.700 A lot of times when they get removed from one 574 00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:32.420 law enforcement agency, that is not the end of their career. 575 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.859 I mean, they just move around, you know. 576 00:31:35.220 --> 00:31:38.359 And there should be something in place that says that 577 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.970 when you get fired for certain things, you know, you 578 00:31:40.990 --> 00:31:43.130 should not be able to just go to another law 579 00:31:43.150 --> 00:31:47.230 enforcement agency. You know, but that's the reality for the 580 00:31:47.269 --> 00:31:47.930 vast majority. 581 00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:51.029 I mean, but isn't that what Bradford's decertify the police, 582 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:55.190 a decertification bill that Black Lives Matter pushed for? Isn't 583 00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:56.299 that what it's supposed to do? 584 00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.569 Yeah, that's what it's supposed to do. 585 00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.849 But that means somebody has to take the initiative to 586 00:32:00.910 --> 00:32:02.630 call for that cop's decertification. 587 00:32:02.670 --> 00:32:05.690 Yeah, absolutely. A brave politician. 588 00:32:05.769 --> 00:32:09.430 I mean, I should have mentioned that Helen Jones, Ms. Jones, 589 00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:13.009 that her son was killed by 3,000 boys, a gang, 590 00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:16.269 inside of the prison. So there is a direct line here. 591 00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:19.630 I don't know the answer to that. I mean, we 592 00:32:19.670 --> 00:32:25.359 do have the law enforcement decertification bill in California, which 593 00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:26.619 is supposed to stop that. 594 00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:27.059 Yeah. 595 00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:29.009 But who's tracking it? 596 00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:32.470 Right. Exactly. And, you know, my question always is, well, 597 00:32:32.539 --> 00:32:35.119 what does enforcement look like on the back end? And 598 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.039 if they're going to be naming these gangs, I want 599 00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:38.859 the names of the individuals who are part of those 600 00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:41.059 gangs the same way they do with, you know, with 601 00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:41.920 our folks. 602 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.099 Gang database. Sheriff's gang database. Exactly. 603 00:32:45.500 --> 00:32:47.890 Sheriff's. I want all of it. I want all of it. 604 00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:50.509 Sheriff's gang database. De-certify them. They can't get a job 605 00:32:50.549 --> 00:32:55.170 anywhere else. Yeah. So... Anyway, it's great talking to y'all. 606 00:32:55.190 --> 00:32:57.609 Thanks for having this conversation. I appreciate the opportunity to 607 00:32:57.630 --> 00:32:58.170 chime in. 608 00:32:58.490 --> 00:32:59.349 See you tomorrow. 609 00:32:59.369 --> 00:33:01.069 Good to hear from you, Mika. 610 00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:04.420 Yeah, you know what? It's a good point. I mean, 611 00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:09.119 and now we're hearing that LAPD has at least one gay. 612 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.539 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 613 00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:12.619 You say, oh, yeah, like they have a lot of gays. 614 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:13.650 They've been much better about hiding it. 615 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:15.660 You know what I mean? They've been much better about 616 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.049 hiding it for years and decades, rather. You know, the 617 00:33:19.089 --> 00:33:21.230 Sheriff's Department wanted to act like things were a myth, 618 00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:25.599 that these gangs were a myth. And LAPD was certainly 619 00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:28.599 doing the same. But yeah, these things exist. 620 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.140 So does the LA City Council need to pass a 621 00:33:31.180 --> 00:33:34.240 motion about investigating LAPD gangs? 622 00:33:34.539 --> 00:33:35.140 Absolutely. 623 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:35.839 Will they? 624 00:33:36.380 --> 00:33:36.619 No. 625 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.869 Not at all? Not even with the progressive block that 626 00:33:39.890 --> 00:33:41.390 we now have on the council? 627 00:33:42.869 --> 00:33:44.650 I think it would take a lot. I think it 628 00:33:44.670 --> 00:33:45.230 would take a lot. 629 00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:45.930 I think you're right. 630 00:33:46.069 --> 00:33:46.269 Yeah. 631 00:33:46.670 --> 00:33:49.109 But we got a lot. Right. We do have a lot. 632 00:33:49.130 --> 00:33:49.690 We got a lot. 633 00:33:49.710 --> 00:33:50.450 We got a lot. 634 00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:53.769 We got a lot. Yeah, that's one of the topics 635 00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:56.069 of conversation. We can talk a little bit about that 636 00:33:56.089 --> 00:34:02.809 when we come forward. The Sheriff's Union, well, Association. Are 637 00:34:02.829 --> 00:34:11.340 they really unions? Sheriff's Cartel leader, Officer McBride, said before 638 00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:14.179 the victory of Nithya Raman that there would be

Armageddon 639 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.309 in L.A. If she won, she did win. 640 00:34:17.329 --> 00:34:17.480 She won. 641 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.130 She is mayor-elect. What does that mean for LAPD? Will 642 00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:25.030 she really fire the chief as she promised and then 643 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:30.010 unpromised and then promised? I'll get Attorney Chris Martin's take 644 00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:34.650 when we come forward on KBLA Talk 1580. Welcome back, indeed. 645 00:34:34.730 --> 00:34:38.460 Chris Martin is a civil rights attorney and an R 646 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:40.500 & B singer. I don't know how you balance those, 647 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.400 but I don't know how I balance what I do either. 648 00:34:42.699 --> 00:34:43.000 Right. 649 00:34:43.579 --> 00:34:44.500 We do what we do. 650 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:45.380 Exactly. 651 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.039 Will you run again? Do you think you'd ever run 652 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:47.840 again for office? 653 00:34:48.619 --> 00:34:51.949 You know what? Never say never. 654 00:34:52.150 --> 00:35:00.329 Okay, that means yes. That means yes. Teeing up. The mayor-elect. 655 00:35:00.530 --> 00:35:06.010 She comes with a DSA endorsement. She comes with the 656 00:35:06.090 --> 00:35:07.860 endorsement of Dr. Malina Abdullah. 657 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:08.300 Yes, she does. 658 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.260 Even though Black Lives Matter grassroots doesn't endorse candidates, Dr. 659 00:35:12.340 --> 00:35:13.920 Abdullah did endorse her. 660 00:35:13.940 --> 00:35:14.610 Yes, she did. 661 00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:21.480 And she's the leader of Black Lives Matter grassroots. Pretty significant. 662 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:22.079 Very. 663 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.070 Considering that. Mayor elect Rahman is not black and not 664 00:35:28.110 --> 00:35:31.909 a member of BLM. Or white people for black, like, well, 665 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:35.710 I don't know, get an Indian person. Anyway, the point 666 00:35:35.769 --> 00:35:39.679 is the cops are obviously the LAPD has having a 667 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:45.800 little meltdown. The comment about Armageddon makes you wonder if 668 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.920 they're going to try to cause Armageddon to prove their point. 669 00:35:50.179 --> 00:35:54.579 Certainly the arrest of Skip Townsend raises questions around that. 670 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.579 Yeah. 671 00:35:58.260 --> 00:35:59.719 Do you think things are really going to change? Do 672 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.800 you think that Mayor Rahman will fire the chief or 673 00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:08.059 significantly modify the police budget? 674 00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:11.440 I mean, it seemed like within a few days of 675 00:36:11.500 --> 00:36:15.469 her winning the election, she was already walking back. statements 676 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:21.559 related to firing the police chief. So, you know, it 677 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.539 would not surprise me if she doesn't actually, you know, 678 00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:25.840 follow through on that promise. 679 00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:31.800 Her really close friend is the controller, city controller, Kenneth Mejia, 680 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.460 who did campaign for her like crazy. And Kenneth is 681 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.570 someone who's very trusted and admired in progressive circles. 682 00:36:40.610 --> 00:36:40.739 Yeah. 683 00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:43.679 And he's pushed and pushed for more audits, which I 684 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.210 think is a great idea. Let's see where they're spending 685 00:36:46.269 --> 00:36:46.670 our money. 686 00:36:46.710 --> 00:36:48.090 Yeah, absolutely. 687 00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:50.690 I can't imagine, but I could be wrong, I can't 688 00:36:50.750 --> 00:36:55.389 imagine her backing away from the promises she made to 689 00:36:55.449 --> 00:37:01.050 the comptroller's office to fund and support full audits of 690 00:37:01.090 --> 00:37:02.289 the police department, though. 691 00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:04.340 I could see her doing that. 692 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.659 I could see her following through on that promise. But 693 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:14.400 when it comes to removing the police chief, I think 694 00:37:14.420 --> 00:37:18.679 that there's a chance that that was just something to 695 00:37:20.059 --> 00:37:23.019 make her be different from Karen Bass, who had wholeheartedly 696 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.610 supported the current police chief by the end of her term. 697 00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:31.170 Yeah, many of us were surprised she made that appointment. Yeah. 698 00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:35.090 Imada Tingerides, who is a black woman, would have been 699 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:39.989 the first black chief, was vying for that position. Mayor 700 00:37:40.030 --> 00:37:45.570 Elect Roman. Remember Mona Tingerides? I'm just saying. A lot 701 00:37:45.590 --> 00:37:48.369 of people in the community wanted her because she has... 702 00:37:48.230 --> 00:37:50.030 Not just because she's a black woman, but because she 703 00:37:50.050 --> 00:37:52.199 has a portfolio of community policing. 704 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:52.480 Yeah. 705 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:56.719 Others supported Robert Arcos. Arcos would have been the first 706 00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:02.400 Latino chief. Also a big champion of community policing. 707 00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:02.780 Right. 708 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:09.269 And she chose the old-fashioned... ICE collaborator. 709 00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:10.090 Yeah. 710 00:38:10.429 --> 00:38:13.110 Jim McDonald. He said yesterday that he wants to keep 711 00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:13.690 the job, though. 712 00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:14.530 Yeah. 713 00:38:14.889 --> 00:38:17.349 Yeah, I know. I mean, what can I say? 714 00:38:17.389 --> 00:38:20.630 When it comes to Karen Bass making that decision, unfortunately, she, 715 00:38:20.989 --> 00:38:24.340 you know, alienated a lot

of, you know, progressive folks 716 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:29.960 who really want to see major changes within the LAPD. 717 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.119 And I think that that is part of what ultimately 718 00:38:34.179 --> 00:38:35.960 caused her the election. 719 00:38:35.980 --> 00:38:36.949 Yeah. 720 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:44.489 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. So the question is, if Mayor-elect 721 00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:51.530 Rahman then does fully unleash the power of the considerable 722 00:38:52.550 --> 00:38:58.119 intellectual power of Kenneth Mejia to audit the LAPD, then 723 00:38:58.179 --> 00:39:01.599 their other fear, which even if she doesn't fire McDonald, 724 00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:03.900 which is what they're saying she's going to defund the police, 725 00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:09.860 which really just means shifting money around. to other city 726 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:15.949 programs you think you see that that happening um because 727 00:39:15.969 --> 00:39:18.530 that was one of the major critiques of mayor bass 728 00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:22.050 is that she gave too much money to lapd she gave. 729 00:39:21.969 --> 00:39:24.940 Them everything they wanted pretty much right yeah By the 730 00:39:24.980 --> 00:39:25.340 end of it. 731 00:39:25.579 --> 00:39:26.179 Right. 732 00:39:27.019 --> 00:39:31.469 And she was trying to really just get that endorsement. 733 00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:34.130 So if folks voted for change, is that change really 734 00:39:34.150 --> 00:39:34.690 going to happen? 735 00:39:36.210 --> 00:39:36.730 I mean, I. 736 00:39:38.809 --> 00:39:41.050 Think it's going to be difficult, you know, just because 737 00:39:41.179 --> 00:39:44.980 they promised to do something related to, you know, the 738 00:39:45.019 --> 00:39:47.530 policing issue. I don't know if they're going to really 739 00:39:47.570 --> 00:39:49.630 follow through on that. You know, I have my doubts 740 00:39:49.670 --> 00:39:51.909 about Nithya Raman doing that, honestly. 741 00:39:51.949 --> 00:39:54.550 I mean, it seems like there would be support for 742 00:39:54.570 --> 00:39:57.630 it in the council. Well, some parts of the council. 743 00:39:57.670 --> 00:39:58.630 In some parts of the council. 744 00:39:58.650 --> 00:40:02.019 And to some degree, that will also be affected by 745 00:40:02.059 --> 00:40:03.300 who wins CD9, right? 746 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.880 CD9, yes, because they both have slightly differing views on 747 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:09.500 law enforcement. 748 00:40:09.539 --> 00:40:13.530 Yeah, Ugarte's much more pro-LAPD. Masadiegos is much more of a... 749 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.769 you know, rewrite their budget type guy. Right now there's 750 00:40:17.769 --> 00:40:19.449 150 votes between the two of them. 751 00:40:19.610 --> 00:40:19.829 Yeah. 752 00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.050 So that'll make a huge difference as to the future 753 00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:25.349 of law enforcement in L.A. 754 00:40:27.449 --> 00:40:29.469 I know no one talks about this, but I really 755 00:40:29.570 --> 00:40:32.190 think that we need to find a different security detail 756 00:40:32.250 --> 00:40:34.190 for the mayor of the city. To me, it's a 757 00:40:34.230 --> 00:40:38.510 conflict of interest, especially since the police association is allowed 758 00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:41.690 to contribute to mayoral candidates. So we know they prefer. 759 00:40:41.889 --> 00:40:42.250 Yeah. 760 00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:43.969 And now they're your bodyguards. 761 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:44.530 Right. 762 00:40:45.329 --> 00:40:47.630 I said the Nation of Islam. I was only half joking. 763 00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:51.510 But could we get some celebrity bodyguards? Or could we 764 00:40:51.550 --> 00:40:54.469 even get a different police agency from another state? 765 00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:56.170 Yeah, yeah. 766 00:40:56.349 --> 00:40:59.190 I mean, I would not object to some type of 767 00:40:59.630 --> 00:41:02.869 privatized security force to defend the mayor. 768 00:41:03.550 --> 00:41:05.550 I would say the feds, but not right now. 769 00:41:05.570 --> 00:41:06.260 Or something. 770 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.360 Something. 771 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.420 I mean, there's got to be something because at the 772 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.340 end of the day, it would be all too easy 773 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.920 for the police to say, You know, you need to 774 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.389 support us or else, you know, these little scandals that 775 00:41:19.409 --> 00:41:21.210 we happen to know about what's going on in your home, 776 00:41:21.230 --> 00:41:22.230 they're going to come out, you know? 777 00:41:23.929 --> 00:41:24.590 Exactly. 778 00:41:24.610 --> 00:41:26.090 That's all too real. 779 00:41:26.909 --> 00:41:32.010 As they have under certain mayors. But that's another conversation. 780 00:41:31.469 --> 00:41:32.369 For another day. 781 00:41:32.409 --> 00:41:37.469 That's another conversation for another day. So, Chris, tell us 782 00:41:37.489 --> 00:41:40.300 how to find you so we can figure out whether 783 00:41:40.340 --> 00:41:42.159 you're going to run again or whether you're going to 784 00:41:42.219 --> 00:41:43.840 sing it when you're going to sing again. 785 00:41:44.019 --> 00:41:44.840 Absolutely. 786 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.360 Um, so you can follow me on Instagram at doc 787 00:41:49.860 --> 00:41:55.000 underscore Martin 88. So D O C underscore M A 788 00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.110 R T I N eight, eight. That's my IG. You 789 00:41:59.130 --> 00:42:01.510 can search me on, on Facebook. You know, you pull 790 00:42:01.550 --> 00:42:03.789 up the name, Chris Martin, it'll come up. 791 00:42:03.829 --> 00:42:04.369 You'll find me. 792 00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:08.650 Yes. And, um, I should, I should say, I said, 793 00:42:08.670 --> 00:42:10.110 whether you're going to run again, whether you're going to 794 00:42:10.179 --> 00:42:12.000 sing again, but I should have also said, if you 795 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:15.809 need a lawyer, you, you, I mean, you are accepting 796 00:42:15.869 --> 00:42:16.610 some clients, right? 797 00:42:16.750 --> 00:42:19.030 I accept some clients. You know what I mean? 798 00:42:19.090 --> 00:42:19.750 Busy man. 799 00:42:20.010 --> 00:42:21.929 I'm a busy man. I'm a busy man. But I 800 00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:25.420 make time for the things that are important. So, you know, 801 00:42:25.460 --> 00:42:27.380 you can always, you know, feel free to reach out 802 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:33.639 to me related to that. My email is cdmartinlaw at gmail.com 803 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.920 if you, you know, have some legal issues that. 804 00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.699 You want to talk about. 805 00:42:36.980 --> 00:42:38.239 Mostly civil rights, right? 806 00:42:38.380 --> 00:42:39.400 Civil rights. That's right. 807 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.340 Well, thank you for coming in. It's great to see you. 808 00:42:43.539 --> 00:42:46.619 And I am really looking forward to seeing how those 809 00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:50.909 little 150-something votes turn out in CD9. 810 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:51.610 Absolutely. 811 00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:53.909 Man, I think they needed your endorsement, Chris. 812 00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:56.190 They asked for it. 813 00:42:56.329 --> 00:43:00.250 I think they needed it. All right. We've got news, traffic, 814 00:43:00.309 --> 00:43:03.650 and sports, and it's time for Wealth Building Wednesday. Only here.